The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - Rockets Fall to Jazz, Drop to 13–5... Heavy College Football Talk
Episode Date: December 2, 2025Rockets Fall to Jazz, Drop to 13–5... Heavy College Football Talk ...
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This is the Matt Thomas show with Ross.
10-1 in H-Town, hello.
And welcome in to a Tuesday edition of the Matt Thomas show with Ross,
without Matt Thomas. He is out traveling with the Houston Rockets who lost last night in Salt Lake City to the Utah Jazz. More on that in just a moment. But we are here for the next four hours where I will be joined by. Well, I don't know. I asked Chris Gordy to hang out. He said he would. He is not here at the moment. I have reached out to both Adams and asked them if they wanted to hang out for a little bit.
of them have responded so we'll see is it four straight hours of ross solo with jonathan allen of course
into the fold jonathan how are you on this beautiful tuesday i'm cold i'm chilly man it is a little cold
like i came up here and the i went to the uh elevator and there was this girl i don't know tell me
how awkward of an interaction was this on my part one to ten this girl uh a young lady who she was
wearing like this big
like if you went
to on a trip to New Mexico
and you got like a Mexican blanket
yet it was like fortified
with a bunch of fluff
and cushiony down whatever
and I just saw her
and I blurted out and I was like
wow you look bundled up and she's just like
ha ha
I was like well I wasn't trying to be weird
or anything I just noticed like
small talk she was just awkward with that
good good I thank you Jonathan
because I was like, because then we got in the elevator and then nobody said a word.
And I was like, this is weird, but whatever.
I mean, she just looked like she walked in from the igloo.
That's all I was trying to say.
I don't know.
Maybe, you know what, maybe I shouldn't have said what I said.
At least you got a little chuckle, though.
I mean, I don't know.
Was it awkward nervous chuckle or was it a good chuckle?
Who knows, who cares?
I mean, I wasn't hitting on her or anything.
I was just making a comment.
So anyways, yeah, it's cold out there, man.
It's like, it's like in the 30s.
I love this.
Do you like cold weather, Jonathan?
I know you're from, so explain this again.
You started your life in California and lived a lot of your life in Dallas.
Yeah, so North Texas.
So this is kind of what I'm used to, really.
And I went to Kentucky for a little bit.
Okay, yeah.
Kentucky's pretty damn cold, right?
Yeah, it's like this starting in October.
You guys have snow days up there?
Dude, I went to class one day, and you know when those, you don't know what's slippery
ice, you're just walking on it.
Oh, that's not good, man.
I did a whole cartoon flip on my back.
I had lost the wig on me.
Dude, you can, you can land on your tailbone and be out a couple weeks.
I was wheezing.
No joke.
Slipping on the, you were weeting?
Was we?
I'm not,
I'm not the breath out of me.
I was in there.
Were people around?
Was anybody around?
No, I was behind the parking garage.
Look me, but I was sitting there just embarrassed.
Okay, that was good.
I had, when I was in college, I had a girlfriend who she fell like,
have you seen the UT Tower?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right in front of the UT Tower, there's a bunch of steps.
It's like rocky steps.
And I was meeting her between classes, and she fell down.
steps she fell down about a good 15 of the steps i can laugh now but at the time i was like
oh my god and like 10 people came by like oh my god are you okay and she was fine she had like
scraped her shin or something and and she was totally fine but she the worst part was just how
embarrassed she was so you weren't very embarrassed no after i did my look at you didn't you
looked around and everything everything was cool you didn't have to be embarrassed in front of everybody
Okay. Well, yeah, it's cold out there, but at least it's not icy.
I like this type of cold.
Like anything, I like anything 30 plus.
When you start getting below freezing and you have frozen snot and the ice on your car and all that other stuff, I'm not down.
Anything up to and including 32 degrees I'm down with, I think it's fun.
I think it's a nice change of pace to 110 degrees and humidity.
I'd rather be 32 degrees. It's not even close.
Let's play KTRH right now.
It's going to be, this is the lowest of the week.
It's going to be high 60s.
Are you trying out for the weatherman and KTRH?
No, I'm a jack of all trades.
I see that.
All right.
News Radio 740 KTRH weather report.
Here's Jonathan Allen.
Go ahead.
All right.
So today is going to be the highest week 53 with the lowest of 39,
sitting in very cloudy skies today.
Going the rest of the week, we got storms 70% and 100% for Thursday thunderstorms.
And it's going to be the highest.
66 so be prepared get your poncho ready to go to work oh i was going to tell you you got to throw in a
little kitchy something and then you did it they always throw in something at the end of the
make sure you to bundle up your children and put those mittens on your kittens it's going to be a cold
one tonight make sure you cover up those plants you always got to throw in a little personal note
you did that wow 10 out of 10 jonathan allen i pay attention you are hired as a as sports
Stock 790 weather, man. We appreciate you. All right. So it's a little cold out there.
As I said, Matt Thomas is out. We do have sports stuff to get to. I didn't even lay out the phone
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So I mentioned you have the Rockets losing last night to the Utah Jazz.
It's funny because literally yesterday on this show, we were talking with Matt Thomas.
And I mentioned it on the pregame on the Rockets launch pad,
which I know you all caught at 7 o'clock last night here on Sports Talk 790.
Like, hey, the Rockets got four losses, and they got a great record,
and they're number three in the West.
But even all these losses are great in a way.
They lost to the Thunder.
They should have won.
They lost to the Pistons, who are number one in the East.
They should have won that game.
Then they lost a close one to the Nuggets,
and they lost one of the Spurs when they still had Wimby.
Like nothing to be embarrassed.
about in this bunch and then they lost last night to the Utah jazz it just wasn't pretty it was their
first a number of things rolled into one in my opinion uh it was their first game on a back to
back they didn't look super fresh even though there was no travel in between it I don't know
what happened I made a joke on Twitter last night like is it the Salt Lake City nightlife like
why are the rockets not able what is there to do were they they at uh they were studying the book of
late last night at the Bible study I don't know what they were doing in Salt Lake City but apparently
they had back to back legs yesterday they couldn't make a three they had been the number one or
number two three point shooting team all season long and I got to tell you I got to be honest I don't
expect that to continue and I just I mean Kevin Durant's very good but Reed Shepard had been
shooting out of his mind Alprin Shungoon's way ahead of where he had been career Jumari
Smith Jr. A couple of ticks of where he's been in his career. I just do expect a little bit of
regression unless Reed Shepard and Jabari Smith Jr. and Alper and Shungoon are just going to be
excellent three-point shooters all for 82 games, which I said, I don't expect, but I will
accept, let's put it that way. But there was some three-point regression for the Rockets. They
just looked a little bit lethargic. The Utah Jazz were shooting the freaking lights out.
And I talked about, we talked about this on this show a lot. If for those you that aren't
tuned into the NBA, I understand it's NFL right now.
now, it's college football, but I'm talking about those you've tuned it out for years.
If you come back, you're going to be impressed with how talented every single team is.
The Utah Jazz are terrible.
They came into the game 6 and 13 Rockets beat him by 28 the day before.
But they have Lori Marketing, who is a guy who is a 30-point thread and has been an all-star.
Yusuf Nurkich is a good big man who can drop 15 and 10 on any given night.
He gave them 18 and 9.
I mean, Kianti George is a good player.
Ace Bailey is a lottery pick who is starting to come into his own and score a bunch of points.
Like the Utah Jazz, even the bad teams in the NBA, the Brooklyn Nets, Michael Porter, Jr.
went off for like 37 points.
The nets are terrible.
Michael Porter Jr. is pretty good, and they got Cam Thomas, whoever else on that team.
They're pretty good.
Like, these bad teams, even in this day and age, have good players and they are dangerous.
and they were dangerous last night against the Houston Rockets.
Lori Marketing had 29 points.
Keante George, excuse me, went off for 28.
As I said, 18 and 9 from Yusuf Nurkich.
You couldn't make a three.
They were making their threes.
You had dead legs.
The defense wasn't great last night.
The Utah Jazz scored 30 plus points in every single quarter,
and it just turned out to be one of those games.
You would have liked to end the four-game road trip with a win,
but the Rockets were unable to do that.
They had won eight of the last nine.
They still are very good, but we can cross that off the list.
The Rocklands haven't had a bad loss all year long.
That was a bad loss last night.
I mean, even as I said, a talented Utah Jazz team,
11.5 point favorites were the Rockets last night,
and they weren't able to get it done.
So that was a disappointment.
They traveled today.
As I said, Matt Thomas is out.
He's on the team plane.
Not sure if they're in the air or if they made it late last night.
Matt Thomas is just sleeping in,
Totally fine. That's his right. I'm not trying to be snarky about that or anything.
So they will be off today and then they will be facing off against the Sacramento Kings tomorrow.
And then they have a game against the suns coming up on Friday for a couple of home games coming up here for your Houston Rockets.
Of course here on Sports Talk 790, we are your home for your Houston Rockets.
So Rockets lose last night. We still have a lot of other stuff to get to here on the show.
I'm flying solo right now. So if you want to be my co-host for a couple of minutes, you can get.
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Rockets lose last night.
Texans are getting a little bit more national shine for these victories.
that they've had now, beating the Colts
and then the bills in back-to-back weeks.
National College football stuff to get to.
Did you see what Lane Kiffin said yesterday?
Do you know what I'm talking about, Jonathan?
I'm reading it right now.
We are going to talk about that later on in the show.
And I was hoping Chris Gordy would be around at some point
so we can talk about that with him as well.
We got gut feelings coming up at 1130.
We got news at noon.
We get anything you guys want to get to.
A lot of sports stuff going on.
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It is the Matt Thomas show with Ross without Matt Thomas with you until 2 o'clock here on Sports Talk 790.
I am resisting the urge to do a guttural scream for this song.
I don't know if you can tell.
I still have a little bit of a lost voice from this weekend.
Does it sound normal to you?
That's a little raspy, baby.
Hey, yeah, what's up?
It sounds a little bit more like I'm doing the quiet storm on a sports talk 790.
I lost my voice a little bit at DKR on Friday.
And then it had been recovering over the weekend.
And then yesterday I did this show and then I did a pre and post game for the rocket.
So I think we're back on the men.
We need to be back on the hot tea and honey regimen or something like that because, well, my voice is struggling a little bit.
So that means if you want to get in on the phone lines, you will have free reign to say just about anything that you want.
If you want to talk about biscuits and gravy, or if you want to talk about the latest Rockets Laws,
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Speaking of Matt Thomas, he sent a picture to me yesterday
Of Tri-Tip
And then asked me if Tri-Tip is considered brisket
Which it is not
Those are two different cuts of meat
I guess he's in Utah.
Californians, I think they use tri-tip and they roast it,
and it's kind of like their version of brisket.
It is, I mean, it's a higher quality cut of meat,
but it's not cooked to the quality that Texas does brisket.
That's why you got to cook that bad boy 12 hours
because of, I mean, how tough and chewy it is.
But once you get it tender with that perfect Texas bark
and you get it with that post oak,
the beautiful, wonderful Texas,
with just a little salt and pepper.
There's nothing that beats that.
But tri-tip is not brisket.
No, it is not.
That is two different cuts of me.
All right.
Anyways, I digress.
Let's see, what's going on in the sports world?
You had Monday night football last night.
Did you see Jackson Dart flying around the football field?
I love doing that.
Every quarterback used to be scared.
You loved it?
No, I was loving that.
What? Were you standing up clapping at your couch?
Like, you get out of bounds where you can get smacked, man.
Like, that's what's going to happen.
I mean, he missed a couple of games with a concussion, right?
Like, Jackson Dart, like, do we have to...
Somebody's got to have a sit-down talk with him
because he's one of the great things about him
in the way that he plays, and that he plays hard,
he wears his heart on his sleeve,
he tries everything he possibly can to win,
But this is something that, yeah, it'll need to get out of your game.
And young quarterbacks learn this either the easy way or the hard way.
And right now, Jackson Dart is learning it the hard way.
He got absolutely popped by a New England Patriots linebacker last night.
And I didn't even think it was a dirty play.
I saw the play.
Because if you, so I thought it was kind of close.
If you look at the sideline angle that they showed, Jackson Dart could have.
have gone out of bounds for about good
five yards and then he
stays towing the line
trying to get that first down no get
popped out absolutely
did you ever play NFL
blitz back in the day
he got NFL blitzed
he went flying like a ragdoll
on air man that was you could
have saw that on like a movie or a television
show and you'd be like that's not realistic
that's not how it works
that would have never happened
and he just went
It was like he was pulled on wires
in a Matrix movie or like Mission Impossible or something
That was insane
Jackson Dart, you've got to learn
But Jackson Dart is my computer up Jonathan
I can't see you because our computers
Videos are broken
So I imagine hopefully you're giving me a thumbs up
Let me check. Here's Jackson Dart saying
that he's not going to change the way that he's going to play
Look I'm going to keep playing aggressive
No hopefully everybody can
Take a second to watch my
tape going back to high school and realized that this is not a shock like I play the game aggressively
um I took one hit that people are talking about I slid got out of the way of a lot of hits so I appreciate
people you know wanting to you know me to be healthy and all that stuff and I want to be healthy too
but I play this game aggressive so I'm not I'm not going to just change how I play the game
wrong answer Jackson dart come on I
the game. Okay, pop, every time.
Look, what happens anytime any of us get
criticized, Jonathan? We're going to be defensive.
Yes. We're going to say this is the way we do
things, and I understand Jackson Dart,
you're young, you know everything, you've been
successful, you're a first round pick,
you've had a lot of success early in the NFL.
But somebody needs to take
him aside and say,
wrong answer. I mean, the
start of this is where it's really
a problem. Look, I'm going to keep playing aggressive.
No, hopefully everybody can
take a second to watch my take,
going back to high school.
Okay, I'm sorry.
This is not high school, my friend.
You're not even, where is Jackson Dard even from?
I don't know.
I just know he from, he's from, he's from Caysville, Utah.
He went to Corner Canyon High School in Draper, Utah.
This is not 2A Utah football, my friend.
You're not playing up against a bunch of people who aren't allowed to have caffeine and
alcohol.
You are playing against the best of the best.
And maybe that works in Draper, Utah.
That doesn't work when you're going up against Mike Vrable's New England Patriots,
who are now 11 and 2, and just about caved your chest cavity in.
There are levels to this, and you are at the highest level.
If you're saying you're going to keep on running around and doing all this crazy stuff,
then you're just going to get hurt.
That's just the way it is.
You've got to figure out a way to get out of bounds.
You can be aggressive.
But if you want to lower your shoulder and lower your helmet
and continue to run when this dude, I'll tell you,
anyone given NFL linebacker is better than anybody probably in the whole state of Utah
in high school football.
Yeah, probably.
And not even, like, come on now, this is ridiculous.
You got to have a, you know what, maybe he has been concussed too many times.
well if anybody knows
this is how I always play
well yeah you got your brain rattled too much
Jackson this is ridiculous
you can't keep doing this
he's got to figure something out
and he's
he's got to learn and somebody's got to
take him aside whether it'd be Mike Kafka the head coach
who I want to say
Mike Kafka had like a concussion or two
when he was in Northwestern back of the day
but anyways
Jackson Dart I mean
figure it out dude
especially for people who have you on your fantasy team
which I don't. I picked him up for one week and then cut him like an idiot,
but he's not going to keep doing this.
And don't keep digging your hole.
And I understand you're probably feeling attacking.
You're like, this is how I's always done it.
This is how I play.
This is in my DNA.
Look at my high school tape.
We're not looking at your high school tape.
We're looking at the NFL where you are flying like you've been launched out of a cannon.
I mean, goodness.
All right, 713, 212, 570 is the phone number.
happened last night on Monday night
football. Didn't have any material impact
on anything that is going on
with the Houston Texans, except that I kind of
wanted the Patriots to lose
so I can continue to convince myself that
the Texans can win the AFC.
I'm not saying they are,
and I want to be clear, because I was thinking about this yesterday,
I was like, I kind of mentioned like it
popped in my head that the Texans could win the
AFC. I'm not calling them AFC
favorites. I'm not saying
they're marching into the Super Bowl. I
will say, with my
chest, this is a Super Bowl winning
defense, Super Bowl winning
caliber defense. The offense has
to do their part to an extent.
They're not good enough to where they can
overcome a bad
offense. But could you
get C.J. Stroud
catching lightning
in a bottle and getting hot in the
playoffs, along with
Nico Collins, and Woody Marks is playing
better? And oh, by the way,
I checked the offensive line rankings
last week. Jonathan, the Texans
are 21st, according to
Pro Football Focused. They've been looking really
solid. Twenty first.
Looking a little better.
Maybe it's a combination they switched it up.
Yeah, I think Ed Ingram has gotten better
in pass pro. His run blocking's been great.
His past pro's gotten better. Trent Brown has been a better
option with right tackle. That way you can kick Titus Howard
into guard, so you're shoring up things
with guards and Ari Arante Urstery
continues to get better every week.
And it's not like they're all pro bowlers. I mean, we're
talking about being, you know, we're going to
throw a parade for them being 21 out of 32.
But if they can continue to get better, improve, play more cohesively because they're getting the same guys out there and gel and be a middle of the pack offensive line to where you get some run game with Woody Marks who's been improved.
C.J. Stroud can play better than he did early in the season when he was under duress every single snap.
And then you've got a Super Bowl winning defense?
I'm just saying. I'm not saying. I'm just saying.
The Broncos and the Patriots are the toast of the AFC, but how crazy is it for me to say the Texans could, maybe could, if they get their act together, especially on offense, win the AFC.
Of course, we can poke some holes in that argument we will discuss as we go along.
We got a lot of stuff to get to here on the Matt Thomas show.
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Chris Gordy should be joining along here in just a little bit.
We got the news at noon coming up at, you guessed it, noon.
Also got feelings at 1130.
That should be fun to rehash a couple of the ones from last week.
James has been holding longest on the phone line, so we shall go in his directions.
James, appreciate you holding through the break.
What do you got?
Oh, yeah, that's my fault.
You're right.
I restarted the computer.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, James.
Sorry.
That was user error and I was the user there.
Go ahead.
Okay.
There's going to be a lot of good teams that I'm going to make the playoffs this year in college football.
Yes.
And I would like to see, if Texas does not make it, I would like to see Texas and maybe play Michigan or Texas play Clems or Texas play USC.
Somebody like that would be a really good bowl game, I think.
I was looking at the bowl projections yesterday, but then a bunch of pop-ups came up and I didn't, I didn't, I was trying to look yesterday.
I don't know exactly where they would have Texas.
I don't think they're going to make the playoff.
They didn't get anything to go their way over the weekend.
Are they one of the best 12 teams in football?
Yes.
Are they one of the best 10 teams in college football?
I would submit yes.
Still, the way that they're playing as of late.
But they're probably not going to get in.
I'm going to be honest, I don't really care what bowl game they play in after that.
It's who knows.
You have a bunch of opt-out.
You have guys going to the draft.
It's not really going to matter.
Bowl games don't have anywhere near the cash.
that they used to.
So it's not really on my radar
who they would play against.
I kind of don't care.
Well, being a U of H fan,
I would like to see you of H play Vanderbilt.
If they could get Vanderbilt or somebody that quality,
that'd be great.
But I don't, you know,
I want U.S. to play someone,
at least somebody decent.
I mean, they're in the big job.
Yeah.
The bowl projections I'm looking at from ESPN,
both have Michigan versus Texas
in the Cheez-It Citrus Bowl.
Which would be a rematch of the 2004
season. It was in the January of 2005.
So you're telling me you wouldn't watch that bowl game.
I didn't say I wouldn't watch.
I didn't say I'm just going to act like it's some huge great match.
It's the Cheez-It Citrus Bowl, James.
We're talking about Cheez-Its, man.
Come on.
Exactly.
Cheez-its are made with cheese, right?
Why is it citrus?
Well, it's cheesy.
I'll give you that.
It's cheesy, but I still want to see a good football game.
Yeah, you want to see a good football game.
And, I mean, that's two of the heritage brands in college football history,
but it's not like it would be just some knockdown, dragout, can't miss matchup.
That is one of the things, and thank you, James, for making the phone call.
One of the things that the, it's a number of things, right?
It's the playoff that is going to devalue some of these other bowl games,
but they were already kind of devalued.
It was this oversaturation.
There's too many of them.
Now you have players who are opting.
out, who are transferring out.
The team doesn't look anything like it did during the regular season.
And, I mean, it is what it is.
I'm not going to, like, lament it and say it's a sad or whatever.
Like, should the SRS distribution Las Vegas Bowl be a huge game on everyone's radar?
Probably not.
It's more college football that you can kind of flip on and put on the background if you want to.
But certainly the rest of the bowl games have been devalued with now,
the top 12 teams getting involved in the
playoff. That's what everybody's focused on
and that's what they should be.
So that's where I am on that.
All right, 713, 212-5-790 is the phone number.
Let's keep it rolling with George in West U on the phone lines.
What's up, George?
Hey, I was just thinking, I don't know if you guys already covered this,
but, you know, the Patriots' last drive of the first half yesterday
was how to do a drive at the end of a.
half and it was such a dramatic contrast to what the Texans did at the end of their first half
the day before. It really kind of made me, I don't know, sad, angry, frustrated, but it just really
underscored how poorly the Texas, the Texans, you know, were prepared for the opportunity,
how poorly they took advantage of the opportunity, and how well it can be prepared for it,
and how well it can be taken advantage of, you know, have a plan for what you're going to do in that last 90 seconds,
be able to take advantage the opportunity if you get some early gains, know when you're going to take a time out
as opposed to just sort of floundering and saying, oh, well, we'll wait for the second half kickoff.
It was incredibly frustrating.
I don't know how you guys felt.
By the way, I'm not so sure the cheese hits are made of cheese because if they were made of actual cheese,
they wouldn't have to spell it in a, you know, non-food way.
So I'm not so sure about that.
I don't know.
The commercials say it's all cheddar.
The commercials wouldn't lie, would they, George?
Okay.
I guess not.
You got me there.
No, I don't know.
I'm just kidding.
I don't know what the hell is in those things.
And they're disgusting, by the way.
I'll put my name on it.
Yeah, cheeses are terrible.
Come on, man.
It's like goldfish for adults.
Oh, no.
They're way saltier.
whatever
I think you George
but to George's first point
what do you mean the Patriots
they had a minute seven
and they had a good drive
used their timeouts judiciously
and got a field goal at the end of the half
you're allowed to do that
a couple of things here
first of all it's always funny
when you look at like when I watch
the Astros and they're not able to move
runners in scoring position
and then I put it on a national TV game
and somebody some other team is doing it
it makes you frustrated
so I understand where George is coming from
like you watch your team
and they're like why can't they do
this and then somebody else does it
and it makes you even more angry.
That's and that's the
big thing
the biggest, one of the biggest
things that deters me from
really believing the Texans can go on some
magical run and win a Super Bowl
as that
within the thin
margins of making the right
decision in the right moment
and being prepared for anything,
I feel like Damico Ryan's falls
short. He is just
not a great in-game manager
he's not great with his challenges
or with his timeouts
or with his kick slash go decisions
I mean
He's not terrible though
He's not terrible
But he
But when you get to the
When you want to get to the Super Bowl
You got to be great
You got to excel
You have to be
You have to be prepared for everything
That's one of the
I mean underreported
Storylines of why the New England Patriots
were so good for so many years
With Bill Belichick
They always knew when to take their timeouts
They always were able to push
those margins and get those extra
three points. Get that extra first
down. Get that extra challenge.
Save those extra few seconds.
The attention to detail has to be
so great. And I'm not necessarily
saying, you know, this is some big failure
of his. It's just, when you
want to go from a good head coach,
which I think Demico Ryan's is, to elite,
you have to do those little things, and I don't
think he does them consistently enough.
And a lot of that stuff, I just feel like
you learn on the job, you learn end game.
or to, like, practice for that kind of stuff.
You know, because so much of it is Judge McCall.
I mean, honestly, a lot of those relying on the people upstairs.
The people in your ear to go, hey, coach.
Well, let's go.
Let's review this.
Hey, coach.
And Nikki sees it, Nicky sees in his headset.
Like, what was it, was it Christian Kirk who had dropped the ball out of bounds?
And then he throws the challenge flag a couple of weeks ago.
Yeah.
It's like, what are we doing?
There's just some.
I could also be bad advice from the folks upstairs.
Yeah, that probably wasn't his call.
That wasn't D'emico Ryan saying, yeah, it looks like he caught it.
Like he, yeah, he got bad advice.
That's what I'm saying, though.
That's what a good manager, a game manager is going to do is going to just,
he's going to find good people underneath him to give him the right advice.
So that is one of my concerns.
The right advice.
Hey, my friend.
You hold this uncomfortable, hunk of metal.
You got it all wrong.
Don't go?
I'm not going to say anything else from that.
Very troubling monologue.
Get the right advice.
Let's go.
It's ridiculous.
Okay, we're going to take a break.
I've said ridiculous a lot of times today because it's ridiculous.
Where are you on Sunday?
Where am I?
You feel like to have a chance?
This upcoming Sunday?
Yeah.
They're going to win.
Okay.
What's up?
You heard you here first.
I called the upset last week.
We're going back to back, baby.
I'm a little more scared of Pat Mahomes than I am Daniel Jones on a broken fibula.
So I reserve the right to back off on that by Friday, but I'm feeling confident now.
You know, it's always week to week.
generally, actually, I feel very confident.
I feel terribly unconfident beginning of the week.
And then I feel confident as the week comes to the close.
Might be the opposite this week.
Right now I'm feeling pretty good.
But we'll think about that as the week goes along.
All right, Chris Gordy is here hanging out.
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Yankees Keith is on.
Now you used to be Texans, Keith.
Now you're back off the Texans bandwagon.
We want you back, Keith.
What's the deal?
Okay, first off, in basketball season,
And for the last 30 years, I've been a rocket key.
Okay.
Y'all seem to forget that.
So anyway, I want to show you a little something,
and then I'm going to get to what I wanted to talk about,
what you're Houston, Texas.
So yesterday, it was cold and it was raining a little bit, right?
So I had on my rocket's hoodie.
I got a bald head I had on a wool hat,
and my wife said, well, you need to, you need to,
take an umbrella. I said I got
man parked. I don't
need no umbrella, which gets me
to my point.
On Sunday,
when your team had the ball with
two minutes left,
and you've got two timeouts,
and you got a
so-called superstar quarterback,
well, he ain't a superstar. Well, he's a
good quarterback.
York, Houston, Texas
didn't try to do a do a doggone thing.
And then they had two
seconds left at halftime they do
scared they even kick a field goal.
So they talk to your coach.
You're a nutless coach.
And they're asking, well, why didn't you
try? I would love you to call. I would love you to call
Damico Ryan's nutliss to his face.
Well, I don't know if I want
to do that. But I'll just say this.
He said, well, we
got the lead and we're going to get the ball
to start the third quarter. I said, well, you
had two minutes to try to put
a nail in the coffin. And y'all
And you had no nuts to even try something.
That's what I'm saying.
In order to play big boy football to hang with the big boys,
you've got to have a coach with nuts.
And Domingo O'Reyas does not have any.
He likes it in, all right, Keith,
I'm not going to put it the way that you did,
that he doesn't have any nuts.
I'm just going to say that he is an old school
defensive type-minded coach.
And the old-school trope is that defensive ball coach,
I will win with my defense and the run game,
and I will play conservative, we will play not to lose,
and we are going to win games 20 to 16.
That's basically what happened on Sunday,
and that's what D'Amico Ryan's likes to happen.
That's why they've been in a lot of one-score games.
I think our last four wins are all by one score.
Let me pull this up.
Yes, four wins by one score,
and all five of their losses are by one score.
This, unfortunately, is the Razor's edge
that D'emico Ryans likes to live on
because he feels like they can win with their defense.
I will also dispute that they did not try to score
in the second quarter.
Because you pull up that drive, they had seven plays.
Pass, pass, pass,
incompletion, incompletion,
completed pass.
And then the Helmerie.
So they passed every single down.
They were trying to get a field goal to start.
but they let the clock run down
a little bit too much
especially after
well now after the completion
no actually they didn't really
mishandle the timeouts that much
but they should have kicked the field goal
at the 47
don't you normally add
17 to that that'd be about a 64 yarder
and Kami Fairbrand has the capability
of making a 64 yarder
it was a puzzling decision
D'emico Rines was asked about it twice
and he didn't say anything
either time. Both times he's like,
look, guys, we want to put points on the board, we want
to win. Like, yeah, okay, that's great, that's cool.
You can coach speak this to
your blue in the face, but why did you not
kick the ball? That was
not answered. Were they scared it
was going to get blocked? Did they feel like
Camie Fairbearer and didn't have the leg? I mean, he was
indoors. Was the air conditioning
blowing too hard in Lucas
Oil Stadium? I don't know.
There's no answer for that. So yes,
Demikos Ryan's
propensity to play
close to the vest is something I'm concerned about.
He doesn't go for fourth downs when he's supposed to.
He doesn't, he punts when he's supposed to go for it.
He kicks field goals when he's supposed to go for it.
And he plays not to lose far too often.
It's a problem I've talked about with Steve Sarkisian that I have,
although he's been a little bit more aggressive.
But there is an analytics guy that I follow.
His name is Ben Baldwin.
Every week he puts out stats,
who has cost themselves the most
win probability
here actually he put it out an hour ago
win probability loss per game by being afraid
on four downs is what he calls it
well the Steelers have passed the Texans
but the Texans are second worst in football
and Mike Tomlin is a notoriously
conservative coach oh
defensive ball coach
likes to win with the run game in his defense
kind of the same thing
Kansas City up there by the way as well
Andy Reid not being very aggressive.
So that is something that is concerning me long term for the Texans.
I would like them to, I'm not asking, I'm not asking him to be, I would ask him, not asking
him to be Dan Campbell or anything, but a little bit more aggressiveness would be nice.
Joan tweeting in, so he's calling the plays not Kaylee.
I think Kaylee is under instructions to some extent from D'Amico Ryans.
I don't know how, look, I don't know this for a fact.
but if we if we just let's just look at the the evidence the evidence is a lot of times bobby slowick was trying to establish the run more than we wanted to see and a lot of times nick cayley had been trying to establish the run and play conservative more than we wanted to see now is that instructions from your head coach how i want to win or is it just happened so that the two back-to-back offensive coordinators are are not necessarily turning the ball loose
and also haven't necessarily had the opportunity
because the offensive line isn't very good.
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So Chris Gordy, we know, Mr. SEC, Mr. LSU football.
A couple of days removed from the...
Well, I don't want to go full Mark Berman on you.
What are your emotions?
As you went through this whole, just from your fan perspective of Lane Kiffin, who right or wrong,
we'll see the future will bear it out, the crown jewel of this coaching carousel at an SEC program going to the playoff,
ends up with LSU, and of course a lot of different layers of this that we can get into.
But just how you felt throughout this, did you really want Lane Kiffin?
Are you happy, ecstatic over the moon about Lane Kiffin?
Now LSU head coach.
Well, hang on, let me just give you some quick news.
It just broke.
Vanderbilt has just flipped the number three player in the country, one of the top
quarterback.
So U of H has got the top player in the country, the number one quarterback, the number two quarterback.
Jared Curtis, just flipped his commitment from Georgia to Vanderbilt.
From Georgia?
That's significant because this is going to be the heir apparent to Diego Pavia,
who if you're following the Vegas odds this morning just became the Heisman favorite.
now here's the problem with pavia he doesn't play this weekend the number two and number three guys do
Ohio State plays Indiana Fernando Mendoza versus Julian saying whoever wins that game I feel like is going to jump over pavia for the
Heisman favorite but still pretty cool that Vanderbilt football is relevant on the national stage at 10 and 2 has the is currently the favorite for the heisman
and just flip the number three player in the country to come play for them that's crazy but anyway that's that's the state of
college football is right now.
A few things.
I do locked on SEC
and I cover the SEC landscape as a whole.
I did go to LSU.
I am somewhat of an LSU fan,
but I do, I take a step back
and I call it like I see it.
I'm fair. I mean, look, I
admit Brian Kelly failed. I mean, it's
when they fail, you know, you have
to talk about it and admit it. But
from a perspective
of, I have to, and I keep having
to ask Ole Miss fans this all
week, take your fandom out.
of it. Is LSU an upgrade
over the Ole Miss job? Of course.
If you're being unbiased,
it absolutely hands down is.
So from that perspective,
Lane Kiffin, I think,
looked at and said,
all my mentors all told
me to go here. Pete Carroll told him,
Nick Saban told him, Nick Saban won a championship
there. And then when you look at the two
buffoons that Les Miles and at Ogeron were
and they both won national championships there,
it's just easier to win championship.
The path is there. You still got to put
in the work. Things have to align. You're not guaranteed. Look, I thought Brian Kelly was going to do it. He didn't put in the work. That was the problem. Brian Kelly came down and thought he's just going to, oh, name and reputation alone. No, you've got to have the right coaching staff. You got to have everything right. Belaine's still hungry. He's 50. I think he's going to work there. Now, it is much harder to win a championship now. Yes. You know, before it used to be in the less miles days, it was win the SEC and you're in the BCS championship. It was that easy. That's kind of one of the reasons I don't know.
I mean, Ed O'Jron won a four-team playoff, but...
Yeah, but he also had the great...
Look, that team would have won a 12-day playoff.
I know you're going to get mad at me for saying this.
The Nick Saban title was split, correct, with USC?
I know, I know, AP.
That was a split one.
But they did win the BCS game.
Right.
And it was kind of a different era.
And all those guys washed out at the school within a couple of years,
and they just weren't very good coaches.
Yeah, I'm going to tell you, like, if you want, I'll give you the Texas perspective.
Mac Brown wasn't some coaching genius.
You got a bunch of five-star players, and you look at, there were like 11 or 12 NFL players on that 2005 team, and they won the championship.
And then, like you said, Ed Ogeron, that 2019 LSU team is just littered with NFL players all over the place.
But I was just curious in this day and age, because as you just said, Vanderbilt just flipped a number three recruit.
Kirk Cignetti just signed a huge deal to stay for the Indiana Hoosiers.
The Vanderbilt coach just got a big deal to stay there.
Like these coaches aren't are kind of flipping conventions on its head in this NIL era.
That's why I was curious to see.
Like LSU, the old world, like 10 years ago, I would have said absolutely makes 100% sense.
And I'm not saying it doesn't make sense either now because LSU is the better.
job. LSU is the bigger job and the better
recruiting base and just prestige
and all that stuff.
But
to make the small
incremental step up, I was a little
bit surprised, but not going to say that
I was totally surprised.
I will say this, because
I was diving into the numbers. So
the last four years, Lane Kiffin
at Ole Miss, they called him the Portal King.
Why did they call him the Portal King? Because
for the last four years
at Ole Miss, he has had a top
five portal class. Now, why did he have top five portal classes? Because it's hard to recruit
to Oxford. I went back and looked. All of his recruiting classes the last four years have all
ranked in the 20s, with the exception of one, it was 16th. He can't even sniff the top 10 in
recruiting. Guess what LSU has done consistently year and year out. They're top 12. Most of the
year's top 10, some years top five in recruiting. Louisiana, you don't really compete with anybody,
you don't compete with anybody else in state. If you're at Alabama, you're compete with Auburn.
state. If you're Texas, you're competing with Texas A&M, Baylor, Texas Tech, all these schools in state.
Now, obviously, Texas is a much bigger state. But Louisiana, per capita, the amount of NFL
talent or great college players they put out, it's just ridiculous. It's Georgia, Mississippi,
and Louisiana per capita put out ridiculous elite talent. So if he could put up that wall,
put it this way. LSU has already committed to him, $25 million in revenue share and NIL and all that
to go buy portal classes.
So let's say he continues putting together top five portal classes and will now have top
10 recruiting classes.
Is he going to have money to do both of those things?
They've committed to it.
I mean, I would be a little bit surprised.
And you are competing with, I mean, there are LSU, I mean, Louisiana recruits who go to
Alabama, go to Texas, go other places.
There are, but I even looked at the numbers.
Brian Kelly, in this class alone, eight of the top 10 players in the state of Louisiana are going to LSU.
Okay.
So if you keep putting that proverbial fence up.
Okay, and see, that's what I'm kind of also wondering.
Brian Kelly, it's been a bunch of top 10 recruiting classes with Brian Kelly.
That's the difference.
Okay, so he needs to be both.
Lane is every year had ridiculous offenses and ridiculous quarterback play.
He took a Ferris State Division 2 quarterback this year and made him a stud.
Jackson Dart, Matt Corral, he's always had guys.
I'm just not convinced.
I've seen, I'm just not because I haven't seen it before from Lane.
seeing Lane Kivens' offenses be the best
in the country? Yeah, they've been good.
They've been great. They have been. Yeah, when he had a bunch of players
at Alabama, Steve Sarkisian won a championship at Alabama, too.
The last six years at Ole Miss, he's had great offenses.
They just haven't been great. I just haven't been super impressed.
I think you haven't watched them enough.
Okay, maybe I haven't. You're right. I'm not, I'm not,
you're right. I'm not breaking down
Ole Miss tape every single week. I'm going to give you that.
Exactly. That's why. That's another reason why he's going,
look, he was bitching about the fans and not coming to the, you know,
they were undefeated and they were playing a cupcake and he was bitching because the fans weren't
there. It's like, guys, this is the golden age of Ole Miss football. You guys can't even come out and
support us. And my buddy Matt Mascone pointed this out. A few weeks ago when Ole Miss played Florida,
they set a record for the most fans in attendance at whatever their stadium is, Vaude Hemingway.
They had the most set the fan attendance, record attendance. They've never had that many fans at a game before.
That same day, at 11 a.m., LSU played two and seven Arkansas.
LSU was what, five and four or whatever, or whatever they want.
They had more fans at the LSU game than Ole Miss did in their record-setting attendance.
It's a bigger brand.
It's a bigger, fan support, more money.
I just got a bad, I can't really put my finger on this.
I just got a feeling that this is just not going to work out.
It didn't work out at Tennessee.
It didn't work out at USC.
He had a great year in Tennessee.
and he left. Teddy stayed there.
He would have built something. No, he was
better than that at Tennessee. I have it right
in front of me. Seven and six, the great year
at Tennessee, lost the Chick-fil-A ball. I don't know if he
was there for that. So seven and
six at Tennessee, and then
four years at USC. Now maybe he's
older, he's more mature, whatever.
You're also going back, like, what, almost 20
years? Yeah, or not. Well, exactly.
We've got 20 years of sample size. The guy's only
won the CUSA. So that's what
I'm saying. What's he's done the last decade?
He's been good.
with zero top 10 finishes.
Okay, but you're angling it
to make your point. What if I said it this way?
Ole Miss has never had back to back
to back 10 win seasons. Like, that's
the great, this was the greatest run
Ole Miss has had since 1960.
That's good. So if you did that
Ole Miss. They also had, they also
didn't play 12, 13 games back then
either. It still is
the run, they've net like 32
wins in three years. Who else has done that?
I don't know. Not many
like very few. What?
I'm just telling you, I know, you're going to stump for your guy.
I'm not stump it.
I'm literally taking my fandom out of the equation and just telling you what he has done.
I'm telling you, okay.
Now, if you want to question loyalty, will he be there four years or now?
That's what I'm saying. That's the question.
But do you really think he's not going to succeed at LSU?
I don't think to the level.
Now, this is, it's unfortunate that we have to hold the standard of if it's not a national championship.
I know. I say make the playoff.
He can make the playoff.
Absolutely.
And they said consistently to make the pluff.
10 and 2 and the SEC get you in.
As long as you played a competitive enough schedule and you will play a competitor schedule.
Or you can have the SEC schedule bounce your way like the Texas A&Maggies.
It can happen.
So, I mean, he can and I think it's, I don't want to be a hypocrite because I think it's an unfair standard to say win a national championship or you're a failure because there's two.
Well, that's the SAC standard.
I know. Exactly. Exactly. It's ridiculous.
And we had Matt Thomas and I were arguing he was saying, oh, it's a massive failure.
if he doesn't like is this year a massive failure for sark i would say no but if you get four years of this
it's a massive failure it's just so it's too difficult here's the other thing that's very intriguing
for for lane kiff and how they built this contract yes they're paying him 13 million to make him
the highest paid coach but they have sweetened the pot in this deal where he gets tons more if he
wins a national championship and so while you say okay yeah that's great like other coaches get that
too they've put even extra like escalators in here and all this stuff like he's
Again, his incentive is to, I need to win a national championship.
Yeah, that's his incentive no matter what.
I mean, he wants to be great.
I'm not doubting that Lane Kiffin wants to be great.
And maybe he has matured.
I think Brian Kelly was fine not being great.
I mean, you can win in Tennessee.
He didn't.
You can win at USC.
He didn't.
And then now he's forever ago.
I know, I know.
That's like saying, you know.
It's even harder now.
It's even harder now.
It is.
But USC had more advantages before than they do now.
I'll give you a list for me the coaches who are better than Lane Kiffin in college football right now.
George Kirby, Steve Sarkisian, Mike Elko.
I'm just kidding.
Somebody put Mike Elko on their list, by the way.
See, that's Jerry still out on him.
Kurt Signetti, Ryan Day.
You don't think Jerry's still out on Kurtzeg.
Be real, though.
I want you to be honest.
What is Lane Kiffin done that Kirk Signty has not?
He's had more consistency of top of 10-win seasons.
Signetti got on the scene last year.
Cignetti's going to a conference championship game.
How many conference championship games did Lane go to?
Well, because he lost the tie.
Breakers. I mean, it's to Georgia and Alabama.
You asked me a question I'm answering.
Had Auburn beat Alabama the other night, he'd be in the SEC
Championship right now. So it's, you know,
he's right there. I just don't think
he is some wonderkind who is going to say
he's 50 years old.
His offensive mind is, he changed the game with his
offense. Yeah, I heard the same thing about Steve
Sarkisian. It's hard, baby. I'm just saying
I'll have a gut feeling
about it. Aren't the offensive looking better
now? They are looking better. Well, yeah, when
they were barely beating Kentucky. I'm just saying
he's doing that with the number one quarterback in the
country. Look what Lane just did with a Ferris State Division 2 quarterback in Trinidad
Chamblis. Hey, Art had a hurt shoulder or something. I don't know.
He was terrible. He's a lot better now. He's a lot better now. He was looking good against
the Mackey's, baby. All right, we're going to take quick break. 713-212-5-790 is the phone number.
Roger, we see you on hold. We'll get to you. We've got gut feelings coming up at 1130.
7-13-212-5-790. It is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. Without Matt Thomas,
with you till 2.
Alabama and South Florida moving their game next year to 2032.
The Crimson Tide has replaced USF with Chattanooga.
Wait, say that again?
USF and Alabama are supposed to play next year.
They moved the game to 2032, and Alabama is replacing them with Chattanooga.
Yeah, because I think the message is being sent loud and clear by this dumb-ass selection committee
that they just go, 11 and 1 or 10 and 2, you're in the playoff.
Doesn't matter who you play.
So I think collectively everybody's going,
why are we going to challenge ourselves in the non-conference?
I get it, but.
It should be three cupcakes, and let's just coast because the committee has shown no,
again, they need to be more, if we're going to have a stupid committee,
they need to be more like the college basketball committee
where they look at the whole resume, where we do quad one wins and quad two wins.
and a quad one loss is you get points for a quad one loss.
I would like some sort of computer element, like when the BCS would have not all computers,
but some sort of computer unbiased element because I do think, I'll tell you right now,
Longhorns get a benefit.
They were number one in the preseason poll, and it's like, why?
They get a benefit for the brand and the prestige they are, right or wrong.
I know many will call it wrong, and that's fine.
But you bring in these human biases, and whatever it be, Michigan, Ohio,
or whatever. It's like, oh, you know, Michigan, like Alabama loses the Florida
State, it's, oh, you poor baby. But if some other team lost to a bad Florida State team,
it's like the worst thing that ever happened. So you do have these human biases that I think
they should get, if not completely get rid of, mitigate to where it isn't, to where you do
have some kind of guidance. Like when the selection committee uses what you were talking about,
RPI or whatever kind of data, the net ratings and stuff like that.
Somebody said, if we went back, like, we, we, we've been.
she complained about the computers and yet the computers you know what they're saying right now
they're giving tech they're putting texas in because of their resume wins that's what it should be
about it should be about resume wins everybody wants the heartpoint you lost to florida you know what
nobody's saying about alabama you lost the florida state yeah that's what's the loss is just as bad
as as the the worst loss of texas and yet texas has three top 10 wins better than some of these
other idiot teams were put up there like miami and notre dame that just get in because oh they're turning two
they should get in yeah it'll be interesting to see how it shakes out um i would like to see texas in
for personal bias reasons and because i quite frankly i think they're one of the ten best teams
in the country they just are they've got three top ten wins that i think that should qualify you
but we'll we'll see what happens uh and i mean are we're still going to be talking about this
i guess when it expands the 16 it becomes lesser right when we're talking about the teams
that when we're talking about five and six not getting in it's a huge deal
deal. It's a lesser deal when it's 13, 14, and I think it'll be even less.
It's going to expand to 16. Let's just be honest. There's just more money.
There's too much money. And in all actuality, you should probably be going backwards to eight.
I like 12, but I don't like the automatic bids. I would say, take the top 12 in whatever order they happen to be in.
That's what I said. Last year, Boise State. If it's 12 best teams, it's 12 best teams.
One through 12 is the best 12.
Boise State was a top 12 last year, so they earned their spot. You're in. You don't know automatic
But they won't do that because it's, we got to play fair.
We got to let the conference champions.
We have to have the little guy get in and get their ass want.
And my thing is, if the conference champion of the ACC
sucks and has four or five losses, you don't deserve to get in.
It doesn't matter if you're a conference champion.
Yeah, if you're a four or five lost team and you upset somebody,
didn't it happen last year?
It was Clemson and somebody else, SMU or whatever it was.
Well, Duke is playing for the ACC title.
Yeah, so Duke could pull an upset.
Yeah.
And get in the playoffs.
Not all conferences, not all schedules are created equal.
Not all conferences are created equal.
There are some years that there's a conference that just sucks ass.
And this year, that's the ACC.
Top 12 teams, regardless of conference, regardless of affiliation, regardless of championship, top 12 teams.
But you know why?
They won't do that because there's going to be years where there's five or six SEC teams in.
And they're going to go, that's not fair.
Well, are they the best teams, are they not?
Right.
Like, it's not subjective.
One through 12 is one through 12.
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Momentarily, Roger is holding longest and holding patiently.
What's up, Roger?
What's up, Roger?
So just real quick on the game last night.
I get it.
A lot of elements working the wrong way for us.
I think that we excel in.
Utah Jazz turned them around on us and just use them against us.
That's kind of a weird bizarre world that happened yesterday.
The thing is, you know,
the game, I guess you could see them gut out just because they're so talented.
and you still do something for your team like that.
You know, pisses you off.
Even though it's early in the season, I get it.
Okay, moving on to the Texan.
Yeah, man, this is the time where, you know,
you've waited for this.
This is the most vulnerable moment.
Vodible time for the Chiefs or ever be.
They've got a messed up offensive line.
I mean, you can see,
I could already see Mahomes stabbing for his life
and doing those pump fakes
and trying to get us to, you know,
create penalties and stuff like that.
And I think that he can't reach into that big bag of tricks.
And at the risk of not getting our tons of tickled,
I just really just like to see us just, you know, put the dagger in them
and make them go betty by for the season.
And that's really it.
As far as you, you know, you want to, you know, go to the playoffs.
Don't lose three games.
Don't schedule all the conference games like Ohio State.
What about the wins, though, Roger?
That's the thing.
Like, we keep, we jump to the losses.
The wins are great.
The wins are favorite.
The wins are awesome.
But because y'all are on teeter on going in or out,
it should have just, I mean, what happens right now?
What about Notre Dame, Roger?
If you're in.
What about Notre Dame?
What about Notre Dame?
Who's 10 and 2?
No reason.
Okay, well, that's what I'm saying.
10 and 2 has played two good teams.
They lost the both, but they have no good wins.
So that's why I say, like, we have to talk about wins.
Who are your good wins?
Texas has three remarkable wins.
You're preaching to the choir.
It just, they didn't do any favor
to an auto-profit schedules
because if you go right now
and Tentis is 10-2, it's over with.
You're in.
But that's stupid then.
You're telling me,
had they played Rice Week 1
instead of Ohio State, they'd be in.
So what, again, like,
so you're not giving them credit
for scheduling number one, Ohio State, on the road?
I mean, but it hurt them.
It hurt them.
But that's stupid.
It shouldn't hurt them, then you're telling me,
we're going to get rid of all those good
non-conference week one games
because it's coming back to hurt you.
I mean, I'm not the one judging and doing all the...
Well, get ready for more Texas versus Rice, Texas versus Charlotte, Texas versus Sam Houston.
We're going to get more of those.
Because you're telling me that you can't give them the...
In other words, in the NCAA tournament, we do it.
Oh, you lost the Duke?
Who did U of H just lose to?
Tennessee?
Come Selection Sunday, they're going to go, hey, that was a great win for Tennessee,
but a good loss for U of H.
We do it in basketball.
Why are we not doing football?
Why are you asking me this?
I don't know.
I'll just let you know.
Don't schedule a hard out of conference games.
Right, exactly.
I want you all in the playoffs.
No, we need the past.
You cheese money.
Come on.
All right, guys.
Have a good.
All right.
Thank you, Roger.
Appreciate it.
We went to the Sesame Street of college football playoff committees.
11 is bigger than 10.
Oh, okay.
So we're just, if you win your games, you get in?
Oh, that's, man, we need a committee.
need to do this? We could just do this on a computer.
As an unbiased observer, you're making
a lot of good points, Gordon. Yes, thank you.
It looks like I get paid to do this.
I don't think
they're going to make it. There's just no way.
No, they're not because we have idiots.
It's sitting in a ballroom in
Dallas. Hunter Eurocheck
who got thrown into the mix.
They need to bring computers
back into the mix as well, I think,
at some point, but whatever, it is what it is.
By the way, Hunter Eurocheck should be a vote for Texas.
He just watched his hogs get their ass beat by Texas two weeks ago.
That's true.
I forgot he was there.
He's the head of the selection committee now.
Which coach did they?
I forgot he was in Arkansas is what I'm saying.
Which coach did they hire?
Who?
Arkansas.
The Memphis coach.
Ryan Silverfield.
How are we feeling about that?
They hated Arkansas.
They were having a protest scheduled to protest the hiring.
I feel bad for the guy.
Like what the Aggies were doing with Mark Stoops?
Yep.
That worked for that.
It did work for that.
Got Mike Elko and now Mark Stoops gets fired at Kentucky.
All right.
We're going to take a quick break here on the Matt Thomas show with Ross.
Chris Gordy's hanging out.
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I'm stalling for Chris Gordy to come back because I found a gut.
The last time he was on gut feelings, Jonathan, when did you start working here?
I started working, starting working at Sports Talk 790 in March, but in my heart in November.
So you were here for these, the Gordy made some gut feelings on April 15th that I think are going to be funny to go back and look at.
So we'll bring those.
I'm trying to stall till he comes back.
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He's a busy man.
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Fine, we'll go ahead and review from last week, and then we will go from there.
Last week, let's see, hold on I screwed up on my document.
Matt Thomas said Jake Myers will no longer be an astro by next week.
That is an L.
Jake Myers is still an astro, but I think he's going to be dealt.
Yeah, apparently Ken Rosenthal has talked about him being linked with maybe the Diamondbacks
or some other, I can't remember what the other team was.
But Ken Rosenthal is floating out about Jake Myers being available in trade.
Ken Rosenthal's been right along with Chandler Rome on a lot of astro stuff.
So people in the athletic generally very in tune with what's going on with the Astros
and also floating out that he's involved in a couple of places.
Maybe drumming up some market.
Who knows?
I don't know.
But Jake Myers could be traded, but he was not traded this week.
So that's an L for Matt Thomas.
He says the Cougars beat Baylor by 10 plus.
They won.
but I don't think it was by 10 plus.
I thought what was this by one score?
Was it the, I don't know.
I got to take it.
Because I'm not, I was out of town.
I'm going to use that excuse.
And I'm not that in tune in Big 12.
I were talking about you, Vitch.
Yeah, it was 3124.
31.24, okay.
So one score, not by tens.
That's another L for Matthew.
He said the Chiefs would beat the Cowboys on Thanksgiving Day.
Jonathan, go ahead.
How did that go?
Probably should have won that game.
You know what?
Just to say, I won $85.
is rooting against the chief.
Oh, there you go.
All right, that's big money.
Let's go.
He also had Jonathan Taylor
under 100 yards against the Texans.
That's a win.
And then he said
Justin Verlander will be a Houston Astro.
I think he piggybacked.
I think I said that.
And he piggybacked me, but that's okay.
So a lot of L's there.
I said the Texans would pull the upset
against the Indianapolis
cults.
And they did.
I also said,
give me another one.
Because here it comes.
I said the Texas long horns would upset the Aggies.
And they did.
I said the Texans would win 26 to 22.
They won 20 to 16.
I also said Justin Verlin will be an Asher.
We'll see.
I also said Wednesday night against the Warriors,
there will be a flagrant review for Draymond Green.
I should have put Draymond Green or Min Thompson,
because I think there was an Amin Thompson review,
but not a Draymond Green one.
Did you see the commercial that?
had dropped Draymond's, it's like Santa Claus.
Was he like elbowing people?
No, he like tells, sorry, Draymond, not this year.
It's kind of funny.
No, I didn't see that.
Something on the list.
Oh, okay.
I thought it was Draymond as Santa and he's drop-kicking kids.
That would be more accurate.
All right, anyways, Jonathan, you said Archmanning would throw two picks.
Guess what?
Stuck up, you know what?
I'll give credit.
Zero.
But he was nice.
He looked real good.
Yeah.
Now, he chucked the ball 50 yards down the field like 100 times.
that's something I would like to get coached out of him.
He throws it down field when there's wide open guys down underneath.
But anyways, you also said the Aggies would win.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, you took the Aggies in Austin?
I could have talked you out of that one.
Just out of spite.
That's my lock of the week.
Yeah, see, a troll.
I told you it was my lock at a week, Colts and the long ones.
I got them on a two-game palet.
money line. How rocking was that place?
Oh, it was great. I would say the 22
Alabama game was louder
because I don't know why. It was
maybe just because it was so close
the whole time. Yeah, you should have won that game. But that
was close. And they lost that game.
Will Anderson Jr. came up big of that game.
Quinn-Juers got hurt in that game. He got cheap-shoted.
Was it Will it Anderson? Or
Dall Stradner? It was one of them.
Who had to come in card? Now I'm upset.
What was the quarterback that came in? I was sweating in that game. It was hot.
Is that Hudson card?
I think maybe.
Archman and
throws two picks, Iguyen, but you also had the Chiefs
losing to the Cowboys.
Good job. Nice victory
there, Jonathan. This feels so good.
All right, so Chris Gordy, I have your gut feelings.
The last time I have you registered on gut
feelings was April 15th of
this year. Oh, this can't be good. It's not
bad. You had Warriors winning one of the first
two games versus the Rockets, which I believe
they did. Yeah, they did, yeah.
So we're going back to playoff times.
And you also had
the NFL draft. You had the
Titans trading out of the number one pick.
Oh, wow.
They took Cam Ward.
And this is an interesting one.
How are you feeling?
You said Cam Ward will be a bust relative to the number one overall selection.
I stand by that one.
Okay.
This had some good throws this year, but I mean, that team, I mean, if we're keeping it a buck, that team is ass.
Yeah.
All right, so TBD on that one.
All right, gut feelings this week.
Chris Gordy, the floor is yours.
man
I will go with a gut feeling
as much as I want to see my guy
Diego Pavia win the Heisman
I will say
the winner of the Big Ten championship
this weekend
will be the Heisman trophy winner
whether it's Julian San on the Ohio
State side or Fernando
Mendoza on the Indiana
Fernando Mendoza
because here's
I'm rooting for that guy
Here's a tough part about
conference championship weekend
is the teams that aren't playing
and by the way
went through the same thing a couple years ago
Jaden Daniels had such a phenomenal
season at LSU, but he was
sitting idle this weekend.
And I forget who it was, Alabama, Georgia.
There were some other guys in the running,
but I think Alabama was so bad.
Like whoever was in the running that weekend
were so bad, oh, Bo Nix.
He was at Oregon. He looked
so bad that they're like, eh, you know what?
I think it's still Jaden Daniels.
But I feel like this Big Ten championship because it's
one versus two, Sayan versus
Mendoza, whoever wins
as long as they don't completely crap
the bed, I think the winner of that game
is going to now be the highest one family. Yeah, two good
defenses. So maybe
maybe it could be a low scoring affair.
Total is 48 and a half, which
is kind of low for a college football game.
All right, Jonathan, you got a gut feeling?
I want to say Hoosers upset.
Ooh. The Buckeyes
and the Big Ten Tensers.
Upset. The Ohio State Luckeyes.
Okay. I like that.
I just had the spread.
I just had that game open. Let me go back.
I don't know what the spread is.
in that game.
4.5 Ohio State.
So that wouldn't be the biggest upset ever.
I will go with
Georgia easily covers
the 2.5 against Alabama.
What's up?
Say it again?
Georgia covers the 2.5 versus Bama
easily, easily.
Yeah.
By like, I'm not...
Bama Zolons not been playing.
I want to say easily. Like, it's three
like they win by seven, you know? Something like
that. Seven to ten. Do you know what they're
record is. Kirby's record against Alabama
though, he's like 1 in 8?
How many of those losses were
against a guy named Nick Saban? Okay, but he's 0 and 2
against DeBore. He lost this year and last year
I believe. I believe they're going to come.
All right. It's just something about that crimson
when Kirby Smart sees that crimson
on the other side. He starts shaking. He goes, oh my
God. No, he's ready. He's ready to come through.
You heard of here first.
George is able to get the job
done. Texas Tech,
that's too easy. Who cares? Duke
in Virginia.
I'm going to be honest.
My gut feeling is fluctuating on the Texans,
so I want to hold off on that.
I want to say they're going to go up there and pull off the upset.
You know what?
You know what?
Texans pull off the upset.
Sunday night at Arrowhead.
Oh, God, that sounds so stupid.
Texans pull off the upset.
No, it doesn't?
The Chiefs aren't that guys.
Ross and Matt, you guys, you too,
the fear of Mahomes and the Chiefs are no more.
Okay.
All right.
They're a normal average.
Sunday night at Arrowhead Stadium against Pat Mahomes, Andy Reid, and the Chiefs.
With this offensive line against that Chiefs offensive line.
Steve Spagnolo murders the Texans.
That's the only thing that's giving me pause.
That's the past.
We got to move forward.
All right.
I'm going to go with the, they pull off the upset.
All right.
And then one more.
You're not going to like this, Gory.
Lane Kiffin
leaves LSU
in unfavorable circumstances
within four years.
So he leaves on his own?
Like, he's not fired.
I'm saying unfavorable. Fired would be unfavorable.
Quitting and leaving to the NFL
and like, I don't know, that's unfavorable.
But he could also be successfully for the NFL.
So it's...
That's what I'm saying, unfavorable.
But is the NFL interested him if he's failing?
I don't know.
Al Davis was interested in him and he hadn't done Jack,
but that was Al Davis, who was senile at the time.
I'm just saying, I just got a gut feeling.
I said, just a gut feeling this ain't going to end right.
Within four years, Lane Kiffin leaves LSU in unfavorable circumstances.
I don't know if to, I mean, NCAA doesn't care about anything.
Are they infracting anything these days?
after his rehabilitation with Nick Saban at Alabama.
He has been sober for five years.
Well, but I'm saying like his football rehabilitation
where he brought an influx of great offense.
Remember when Saban hired him like,
this is so out of the box for Saban.
What is he thinking?
They're oil and water.
But it was when the game changed.
And he brought a top offense to Alabama
and they won championships with it.
And then he went to F-AU won two conference championships there.
Huge Conference USA championship.
got an Ole Miss and it's been up, up and up
every year. I just don't see how he's just
going to suddenly fall flat on his fit. I think he can
stay stable and there'll be
9 and 10 wins seasons in LSU. I'm not saying he's
going 5 and 7.
Okay. But Brian
Kelly went what, 10 wins, 10 wins, 9 wins, 5 and 3 and got
fired, right? No, it was
less than that. By the way,
we got, something we have to stop doing
is counting the bowl win as
a 10th win. Because you go 9
and 3. Hold on. You were using
That's not from Lee Kiffin talking about him winning 10 games.
No, those are regular season wins, right now.
He's 11 and 1 right now he is.
I'm talking about before.
Let's see.
10 and 4, Brian Kelly, 10 and 3, Brian Kelly, 9 and 4, 5 and 3 fired.
And in those years, you had the worst defense you've ever had in the history of LSU.
That's tough.
You had a Heisman trophy winner combined with the worst defense you've ever had in the history of the school.
And you're going to be going up against Bama, Georgia, Texas.
Oklahoma, A&M.
This year you came in preseason,
what was the LSU? Top five?
Last year they won 10 games thanks to a
bowl win, did Ole Miss. The year before
they did win 11 games, and this year they have
won 11 games. So do you think
Brian Kelly was unjustly fired then?
I didn't say that. I don't know. I didn't say that.
I wasn't around
the state. Now, if he was an A-hole and he was
treating everybody poorly and nobody liked him,
well, it wasn't just that. Like I said,
it was relative to expectations.
If the expectation, he was saying championship.
He said after their bowl win, save those receipts, we're coming for the championship.
And it's like, okay, bro.
Yeah, well.
You can't make those expectations.
At least your school didn't make a championship trophy for your coach.
That's why.
I admire Hugh Freeze.
What was he saying?
At his golf derby over the summer, he goes, yeah, everybody knows the goal at Auburns to make a bowl game.
They're like, wait a minute, excuse me, what?
You move the goal post.
Like, I love that.
I'm like, that's great.
On the golf course, Hugh Freeze.
You don't say.
I love if Sark would do that.
I'm just saying.
Look, next year, the goal is to make a bowl game, you know?
You can come to me in four years.
It's a gut feeling.
I just got a gut feeling.
I can be wrong.
I'm wrong on gut feelings all the time.
You know what?
Put me down for a gut feeling.
Oh, here we go.
Sark is gone in the next four years because he fails to make the playoff the next two years.
That could happen.
I'm telling you, they're churning out these coaches every two years.
The hot name, Brian Kelly is the hottest coach.
and he's gone. James Franklin
Great Hot Coach,
semifinals in the playoffs, and he's gone.
The carousel is spinning
faster and faster and faster.
It is building momentum.
And if Sark has gone in four years,
I'm going to tell you right now,
that would not shock me.
I'm just saying,
I got a bad feeling about this.
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Coaching genius, Joey McGuire, on the Pat McAfee show right now.
I almost went with a...
I like that team, man.
Like, I almost want to go with a lot.
The Texas Tech makes the semis.
I think they make the Final Four.
I don't know if they get past that, but...
It's just...
funny to me that's like Joe McGuire, who's this guy? And then they spend $50 million on
NIL all of a sudden he's the coach of a top five team. A couple years ago, he was here
and he did the coaches thing with what Keith, Neil Farmer and those guys, and right down
the road here. And he, I remember his quote that day. They were like, because the defense was
so bad. And he was like, guys, I'm telling you right now, we're spending a crap ton of money
on defense. So it's going to, it's going to get better. Trust me.
much and this is just a conversation i guess we we will never get the true answers to we can
kind of just debate this how much is it going to matter who the coach is because as i just said
i was making a joke joey mcguire nobody thought of him as this like hot super great awesome
coach and then you get a diffusion of a bunch of a bunch of great talent for the texas tech red raiders
and all of a sudden he's a top five team.
Last year, people wanted Mike Elko fired.
And actually, this last week, if you look at some of the, some of the, I love that,
you like that Twitter account message board geniuses?
Those guys are hilarious.
Yeah.
Like, there are Aggies fans who want Mike Elko fired right now after that loss.
Now be careful.
There were people on there a week ago saying they wanted sark fired.
Yeah, absolutely.
People wanting sark fired.
I'm not, see, I'm not trying to throw stones.
I'm saying this is everywhere.
This coaching ecosystem makes me laugh so much.
Or not even a firing, but they were like,
I think those boosters are going to push sharp to take the Titans job.
And you know what?
If he does, whatever.
The point that I'm making is it's like,
if you get a coach of some level of competency,
and you were bringing this up talking about Ed Ogeron winning a championship,
and Les Miles winning a championship,
I mean, especially at the college level,
I'll even throw, we'll go Longhorn well again.
Mac Brown wasn't some coaching genius.
Brown didn't reinvent the wheel
offensively. He got a dude named Vince Young
five NFL caliber
offensive linemen and some pretty good running backs
and then a defense that was littered with NFL players
and they won a championship.
So I think to me
as long as you have a coach of a certain level of competency,
you need players and you need some good luck too.
I mean, you've got to get lucky in some of these games
where you're down, it's not your day, and you come back. Longhorns, I know Longhorns got yelled
at me yesterday. Like, they got lucky in that Mississippi State game. I don't know how you could
watch that and not say they didn't. But the Aggies got lucky in the South Carolina game.
We can point to Georgia, almost lost to Florida. Like, you need some luck. You need some great
players and you need a mix of some good coaching as well. The question is, how important is that
mix in the years past to where you can infuse your roster with a bunch of talent just by
laying down a bunch of cash.
That's what I just don't know the answer to, but I'm just thinking out loud.
Can I tell you this?
I had somebody tell me that apparently one of the discussions Lane Kiffin had on
the decision to go to LSU is that there is a thought with a lot of coaches behind the scenes
that I don't know if you follow this whole legal battle going to D.C. and all,
but the score act and all this other crap is they think they're going to hard cap all this stuff
and bring it all back down.
so the Blue Bloods are going to go back to being the Blue Bloods and the Texas Tax and these little ones that have had this huge influx of money, they're going to go, whoa, whoa, whoa, can't do that anymore.
There's no way you can hard cap. No, I don't feel like that can stand. That's not constitutional at all.
Well, in other words, saying now that we're doing the revenue share, collectives have to go by-bye. You can't have these groups raising money.
That doesn't seem constitutional at all for the rights of players.
Tommy Tompervilles or the big ones fighting for this.
Yeah, well, again, these young kids getting millions of dollars? What is this?
But, I mean, they just keep taking L's in the, in Supreme Court.
And I think that would be another L.
How can you cap on a young, these young men and women who are...
It's not the players.
It's just capping the total you can spend.
So right now, Texas Tech, but they made headlines because they had the million-dollar softball pitchers.
Capping the spin is capping the players.
But in other words, just capping the total what the school can spend.
Right.
But then that's also that caps the players.
Because, I mean, that's why the baseball players don't want a salary cap,
because it caps what they can make collectively.
argue you can pay your quarterback up
to $25 million. We don't care. It's just you only
get $25 million to spend. That
just doesn't seem like that's going to hold any
water in court long term or doesn't
I'll put it this way. I'll put it this way.
It doesn't seem like it should hold water
in court long term. You never know.
Let me say this. A lot of the coaches are pushing
for it. The Kirby smarts, a lot of these guys.
Because it's the Wild Wild West out there.
Yeah. But
I mean, this is just a problem.
This is all coming to a head. There's been a problem
for years. Ever since, it basically
should have turned professional when they got
the infusion of TV money, which was like the
1980s. But back
to my point about like coaches, like,
weren't there people that wanted Ryan Day
fired after they lost to Michigan last
year before the playoff even started?
And now he's won a national
championship and they're 12 at 0 and he's a
God's gift to coaching. It's
just funny to me how
quickly the worms can turn. He finally beat
Michigan and he won a national championship. Yes.
Yeah, that works. But people wanted him
fired before he even got that opportunity.
Yeah.
is what I'm saying.
All right. Gary in
Spring, I see you on hold. We're going to get to the news
at noon. We'll get to you, I promise.
Jonathan Allen is here. Chris Gordy is here. Matt
Thomas is out. There are two
hours in the books of the Matt Thomas show
with Ross. You guys can still get in. Phone lines
are open. It's been some interesting college football
discussions. I mean, the ecosystem is just insane
right now. You guys want to
talk about that. We also have been talking about
the Texans game coming up against Chiefs
on Sunday night. Rockets lose
last night to the Utah Jazz. It'll
all be a part of the news at noon.
Coming up next here on the Matt Thomas show
with Ross here on Sports Talk 790.
This is the Matt Thomas show with Ross.
Matt Thomas is out traveling with the Houston
Rockets or I think he's already back.
Maybe he's sleeping in.
Maybe he's enjoying a delicious, no, never mind, a disgusting Mick Rib.
I don't know.
In the meantime, Jonathan Allen is here.
Chris Gordy is ducking out.
He has to do some program director duty.
So we will have Jonathan Allen bring us the news at noon.
A lot of stuff going on for a Tuesday in the middle of December.
So this should be an enthralling edition of the news at noon by one Jonathan Allen.
we have on the news.
Let's start off with Monday Night Football, right?
I mean, Patriots dominate the Giants, everybody would think so.
I'm sad.
But the main thing I guess everybody's talking about is how Jackson Dart got lit up on going
to the sideline.
Like, you know how my homes try to do that sneaky stuff, you know, and quarterback's getting
protected?
Patriots ain't letting us live.
Jackson Dart, I think he's a sadist.
I think he's into pain.
It's almost like he slows up for these.
big hits. Yeah, hit me, baby,
one more time. Him and Scataboo are like
same cloth, you get what I'm saying?
So, he had this to say after
everybody was questioning and telling him he needs to protect himself
after coming off a concussion protocol.
Look, I'm going to keep playing aggressive.
Hopefully everybody can
take a second to watch my tape
going back to high school and realize
that this is not a shock.
Like, I play the game aggressively.
I took one hit that
people are talking about. I slid.
Got out of the way of a lot of hits.
So I appreciate people, you know, wanting to, you know, me to be healthy and all that stuff.
And I want to be healthy too.
But I play this game aggressive.
So I'm not going to just change how I play the game.
Now, you said this earlier, Ross, but I mean, that's just that, and I'm young.
I'm running the same age, and I know that's just, that's arrogant speaking.
Like, that's his company.
Stupid.
What are you thinking, Jackson Dart?
I know nobody likes to be criticized and it can be.
tough, especially when you're young and you're hot, you know what, you're drafted in the first
round, and you've been lighting the world on fire, and you're in New York, and you've been the
toast of the town.
But let's wake up, literally, out of this brain fog that you have.
Look at my high school tape.
We looked it up earlier.
What was it, Draper, Utah or something he played?
Who's the greatest Utah high school football player you've ever heard of?
It's Jackson Dart.
I don't know who else probably we can come up with a list.
He's up there in the mountains playing.
Yeah, but my gosh, even if you're in Texas or California, Florida,
whatever you want to call these high school hotbeds, look at my, check out my high school tape.
Yeah, you're not, you're playing up against a bunch of insurance salesmen and dropouts
and construction workers, not NFL players.
You're the highest level of football, Jackson Dart.
You cannot say, check my high school tape.
I'm not new to this.
I'm true to this.
you're going to get true to these concussions
and brain damage
if you keep doing this
and being so defiant and arrogant
about it I mean my gosh
I guess it shouldn't be surprising
but I mean
I'm not going to really
I'm not going to say I want him to get hurt
Jonathan but he's
I mean it's players like that
you kind of they have to look at the bar
and there's a guy and he's talking
a bunch of mess to everybody
and you're like I wish somebody would just knock
that dude out it's starting to
You feel a little bit like that.
I don't want Jackson Dard to get a brain injury and get in.
I don't want to get him hospitalized.
But if he wants to keep flying off the sidelines like a ragdoll,
that's not going to be a problem for me.
What else is in the news at noon, Jonathan?
I'm moving on.
Of course, we've got to visit the devastating loss from the Rockets.
Oh, the Utah Jazz.
That's not what I was waking up.
I wanted to.
No.
Like, but.
Waking up, you mean you watch the game.
Listen to here on 790.
and caught the Rockets wrap with me last night, right?
I guess I was watching the Patriots game.
I'm going to be honest.
I'm in the football season right now.
I thought I thought it was a wife.
You know, next time.
It wasn't.
They lost.
They could have used your energy.
Yeah, but you know.
Yeah, $130.
Marketing gathers in back court, down to five seconds left to go, gets across midcourt.
And Houston will go three and one in this western swing.
They fall tonight here in Salt Lake City.
The final score, the Jazz 133, the Rockets, 125.
133 to 125. Rockets lose to the Utah Jazz. They only shot 29% from three. The Utah Jazz shot 40% from three. Lori Marketing was going off. Keontay George was going off. Rockets' defense looked lethargic and just out of sorts. They were getting crushed on dribbled drives, collapsing and just giving up threes at the end as well. They rallied furiously. They brought it to within one. They scored 30.
I think six points in the fourth quarter.
Only problem was Utah Jazz scored 35 points in the fourth quarter.
So you brought the offense in the fourth, did not bring the defense.
Kevin Durant doing all that he could.
Rockets with their worst loss of the season.
And as I said earlier in the show, even the worst teams the NBA are pretty talented.
Like Yusik Nurkich, good.
He had 18 and 9.
Lori Markinen has been an all-star.
Curante, George, is averaging 20 plus.
You got a high lottery pick
an Ace Bailey who was knocking down shots.
Every team in the NBA is talented
and can get you on any given night.
Unfortunately,
that happened to the Houston Rockets last night in Utah.
They'll be looking their wounds
and looking to bounce back against Sacramento Kings
coming up tomorrow here on Sports Talk 790.
Jonathan Allen, what else is going on?
Of course.
I mean, it's been the main topic all throughout today.
I mean, Lane Kiffin and just the college football scene as a whole and all these coaching contracts and as Gordy was just bringing up them trying to go to the Supreme Court and all this to try to get the cap on NCAA NIL.
Lane Kiff is still the top of the story, man.
He just going to LSU and making these remarks that he said, and I have a audio clip right now.
Okay, great.
I'm never going to make a decision on money.
And I'm telling you right now, I don't know what my contract is here.
That's not very financially responsible, okay?
I'm sure it's really good, okay?
I don't know what it is, nor did I know what the other places
what the numbers were, because I said in the beginning,
I told Jimmy Sexton, don't tell me the numbers, okay?
I want to make a decision that has nothing to do with money for me.
Now, tell me the numbers and the plan for what the money is for the players.
I'm never going to make a decision.
All right.
Ross
Go ahead
You can comment
I didn't even listen to it before I played it
And now I'm kind of stunned like
I don't know what the contract terms are
I told Jimmy Sexton
Don't tell me what the money is
It doesn't matter
I have no idea
How much money I'm making
You can try to make your point
And you can say
You know what
At the end of the day
the money is good everywhere and I am going where I want to succeed and where I want to live.
And I would rather live in Baton Rouge, Louisiana and get some good gumbo rather than go and live in Oxford, Mississippi.
And I don't even know what they're supposed to eat over there.
It's a fertile recruiting base.
There's more history and you can win and it's a better place to live.
And it's more money probably as well.
I mean, certainly more money than he was making at Ole Miss before.
I don't know what the new contract.
Apparently they were very close, if not close to identical.
But to go out there and say, I don't know what my contract is.
Do you think that's genuine?
Like, do you, I mean.
There's 0.0% chance he did not look at his.
You got to sign it.
You got to go to the docu sign.
Yeah, he's saying Jimmy Sexton just signed it for him.
He's going to the docu sign and he's covering up his screen when it says what the terms of the contract are.
Hell no.
that would be irresponsible.
Now, I imagine if he has money already.
You can have 100% trust in Jimmy Sexton
that he's going to get you the best contract
and the most amount of money possible.
But I mean, this is just insane for that to come out of your mouth.
You're ever telling a story with your friends, Jonathan,
and you throw a little white law
and a little exaggeration in there
and then you go a little bit too far.
Maybe you've had a couple of cocktails or a couple beers.
You're like, man, and then he got up in my face.
And you're like, no, he didn't get in my face.
I kind of made that up.
And I probably shouldn't.
But they're running with it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But then you're like, maybe I'm losing them.
I don't know if they believe that one.
This was a little too far.
That's what Lane Kiffin just did.
He's telling a story.
He got all riled up.
He's having a good time in this press conference.
Telling all these white lies about how let's use the greatest in sliced bread.
And he took it a little bit too far.
That's what happened with Lane Kiffin right there.
I mean, no.
Talking about you didn't see the money on the time.
There's not a person on the planet that believes
Lane Kiffin. I put a poll up on my
Twitter account. Lane Kiffin, I don't
know what contract is here. Believe him
or not? Well, so far, 100%
of the responses are not.
Chris Gordy, go ahead and vote, we'll leave it
on there. All right, anything
else on the news?
At noon, Mr. Allen. That's J.K.'s
News and noon today, guys. Appreciate them having me.
Oh, wow. J.K.'s news? And we do appreciate you
for having us, Jonathan. All right,
you want to react to any of that. That's what we've been talking
about today. I mean, we got to, for a
Tuesday, at the beginning of December,
After a holiday, we got a lot of sports topics to get to.
Haven't even mentioned Jake Myers being floated in trade rumors.
You guys can get to that.
We were talking about Lane Kiffin at LSU.
My gut feeling is that within four years,
there will just be unfavorable circumstances,
and Lane Kiffin will not work out at LSU.
Do you think I'm crazy?
How are we feeling about the Houston Texans?
They beat the Colt and the bills in back-to-back weeks.
Are they AFC contenders, or are they AFC?
Pretenders and of course
we mentioned the Rockets losing last night to the Utah
Jazz. Anything you guys want to
bring to the table right now. Chris Gordy
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I'm curious to see how far this goes.
I put up a poll on my Twitter account
at SportsRV
Lane Kiffin
I don't know what my contract is here at LSU
Believe it or not
How long can it stay at 100% not?
You're at 28?
Or 27 votes of not
Without a single person dropping a believe it
maybe this can get into LSU circles at some point.
So, yeah, if you want to go ahead and vote on that, you can do so on my Twitter account at SportsRV.
Ross, Vio, we're back with you here on the Matt Thomas show with Ross without Matt Thomas.
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They lost last night to the Utah Jazz.
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5-790. 7-13-21-2-5-7-90. We have a lot of stuff to talk about as we go along. We have been talking about this Lane Kiffin stuff. We've got the Texan stuff. Later on, coming up in about 30 minutes, I do want to talk about there was a slippery slope that everyone could see, and it's come to fruition in the NFL. And I am disappointed. We'll talk about that coming up in 30 minutes. But we have been talking about this whole Lane Kiffin situation. What's going on with these college coaches?
and this money that they continue to make and these contracts and these expectations that are held basically everywhere.
And I don't know necessarily that there's a solution.
This is just something that is very interesting to kind of watch unfold that has come to my attention.
I was bringing it up with Chris Gordy a couple of segments ago that when Ohio State last year lost to Michigan yet again,
like there were articles being written calling for the firing of Ryan Day
where the Ohio State Buckeyes finished as the sixth seat in the playoff
if we're a 14th playoff did they get jumped by two teams or just one
I think it was just one with Ohio State I mean with the with the boy I think it was
Boise State made the top four I think the Buckeyes would have been on the outside
looking in last year and they lost to they lost to
was it Michigan and then also Oregon in the big in the big 10 championship game
which would have been if it weren't for a 12 team playoff we could have been in a scenario
where Ryan Day would have been fired he went on he goes on to win the national championship
he's 12 and oh this year and all of a sudden Ryan day most genius coach in history
and I brought this up to you Jonathan I think about a week or two ago whenever it was that
like Mac Brown went one in ten and
his first two years at North Carolina, the first stint in the 1990s before rounding them into shape
and being very good at Texas. And then, oh, by the way, getting let go at 8 and 5 at Texas,
despite being, I mean, one of the greatest coaches in the program's history. Everybody's
got these expectations and everybody cannot win at all times. And it's getting worse and
worse and worse because of all this NIL money.
And I understand.
Like, if I'm a million dollar booster and I'm donating all this cash and I'm paying for
these players and I don't know if they're going to pan out and you're the coach, you have to
trust the coach, right?
It's some million dollar booster who's in a private jet who lives in their mansion.
Are they out there scouting high school tape and they know who the five star players are or
whatever?
No, they can flip on into to on three or 24-7 sports and get some,
somewhat of an idea, but they don't really know.
They're like, you're trusting in this coach.
And when these things don't work out, and it's costing you millions of dollars,
you are breaking trust with these coaches.
So I understand that.
But it's everywhere.
And it's unrealistic as a collective for Ohio State, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, A&M, Texas, Oklahoma,
Miami,
whoever else, Michigan,
and you add it up and it's like
15 boost, you know,
and then you're getting new guys into the mix.
I mean, into your point, though.
The Indiana, the Vanderbilt's like,
they all want to win.
I mean, to your point, I mean,
and they're still going to bring in that
revenue, that money to the stadium
and get people, the tickets sold,
you know, especially if they're like
how Ryan Day dropped that game,
they were still a playoff team.
They were still going to do
what they needed to do.
And it still, you know,
so I guess fire,
these coaches that help you build your brand name
isn't really going to get you anywhere
but like you said, a repeating cycle
over and over and over again. Yeah,
it's just, yeah,
I'm trying to pull it up from last year.
Ohio State had lost to Oregon early in the year,
not the big 12th, not the big chin championship game
and then they ended the season with a 1310
lost to Michigan. They had lost to Michigan
like Ryan Day had, I don't think he had beaten them
or he's like one in five against them or whatever it was.
It's just crazy
the expectation.
And I'm just kind of curious to watch it all unfold.
Because you have so many different things going on right now in college football.
Like, where is the future of this?
And we don't talk about it on Saturdays.
I was at DKR on Friday screaming my lungs out.
I've lost a little bit of my voice right now.
And I wasn't thinking about NIL or when Coach Sark is going or if he's going to the NFL or whatever.
It's just beat the team, the number three team of the country.
You still have a very, very outside slight shot at the playoff.
Beat the team that is on your field and is also happening.
to be your rival as well like win the game i was that's all i was focused on that's all everybody's
focused on when these games start but the the the the ecosystem is what i'll keep using
when it's coaches when it's roster construction when it's players when it's i mean senators
and in everybody else getting involved in the government getting involved and trying to
regulate all this it's just gone haywire with college football and and it's getting it's
only going to get worse, I think, before it gets better.
And I don't know what the solution is.
The only real solution is at some point for them to say, hey, this is an NFL minor
league system.
You get, I don't even know, these guys are professional players, and then you go from there.
But the NCAA is grasping at what they have left, clutching to whatever threads of their
control that they used to have because it all boils down to money.
But why don't you think they do that?
Why don't they just say, as an NFL minor lease?
They would lose their tax exempt status.
They don't have to pay taxes right now because they're amateur athletics.
I don't know how much.
I don't know the ins and outs of it completely.
I know that the NCAA generates billions of dollars in revenue.
They do redistribute a lot of that back to the schools.
But they're keeping their money.
Whoever's the head of the NCAA, I imagine he's making millions of dollars.
I don't know who exactly is grifting and getting all this money into their pockets.
But they can do all of this tax-free.
once they say that they're amateur athletics.
And I don't know how long,
it's been a House of Cards forever.
I don't know how much longer it's going to be a House of Cards
because they lost the name,
image, of likeness, a lawsuit.
They lost the ones with the transfer rules.
Remember, players had to sit out a year for its transfers.
Like, that goes to the Supreme Court, and they're like, why?
There's no justifiable reason for it.
It's not.
And I mean, I was there.
In my freshman year, orientation, NCAA Athletics,
They gave us, 2020, they gave us a whole 30, 30 slide, PowerPoint explaining what happens
you transfer and if this gets passed and you don't, you know, you got to do it right this certain
times and this dates before, so you don't get, you know, all these type of hoops you had to go through
and it didn't make any sense to us.
Yeah.
It's, it's crazy and it didn't really make any sense.
And now some people are, they're challenging the, isn't there a lawsuit that is challenging the eligibility rules?
Like, hey, if I'm in school, I should be able to play.
Yeah, see, that's...
That's crazy.
That's a slippery slope because no one wants to...
These are all...
You get like five degrees.
No, I mean, you can...
No one wants to verse a 27-year-old.
You know what I mean?
Well, then don't play...
Don't schedule BYU then.
See, that's a...
They got the grown men's strength over there.
That's not fair.
I know, but it's...
It's just interesting the way that it's just spiraled out of control.
And it's been like this for a long time.
As I've mentioned,
before on air. I was reading this book
about Jim Thorpe, who played college
football back in the day. Like, they
were getting back then,
they were getting paid under the table.
Yeah. Because they
were getting, they were getting
percentages of the receipts.
I can't remember the, the name
of the school. It wasn't like a real college.
It was a Native American
college and it was run by Pop Warner
and
Jim Thorpe was like one of the stars.
And he was playing until he was like 23 years.
old and he had been playing professional
Carlisle School. That's what it was.
He was there from 1907 and 1914
and 1899 to 1903, Pop Warner
was. Like this Carlisle School, they were
getting money to go on the road to play
Harvard, Yale, Pitt,
Penn, and Cornell and whoever
else that were all the powers back in those days.
And then they would, and Pop Warner was paying his players under the table.
Like this was happening a hundred years ago
Yeah I mean even as early
Late as my grandpa was in the A's doing
Was at UTT playing football
Uh huh
And a UCLA coach that had
Recruited one of his hometown friends
Was like coming over to UCLA
And under the table like you can't transfer back then
You'd have to just quit and just travel over there
And go on a team like everything was so
Offering him some cash
Yeah it's saying like so
Yeah it's crazy
we finally got a knot by the way
I believe it for
Elaine Kiven it's up to 11%
there you go
LSU fans must have found it
it's probably Chris Gordy on all his burners
we're up to 11%
believe Lane Kiffin
he didn't read the terms of the contract
okay
if you say so
all right guys we're going to take a quick break
here on the Matt Thomas show
with Ross as I mentioned not coming up
in the next segment but the one after that
NFL slippery slope
I'm disappointed to see it we'll talk about that
We've got college football stuff going on.
Houston Texans in action this weekend on Sunday night football.
Anything you guys want to get to.
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We've been talking a lot of college football.
I mean, we had Chris Gordy in, but there's just, like I said, it's just, I'm finding
all of this fascinating the way that things continue to unfold in college football.
Like Texas A&M, you're not even waiting for a season to be over, and you're giving an extension
to Mike Elko.
And now they've lost, and they're not going to make the SEC championship game,
so you don't have to fade possibly losing in that game.
We'll see what happens in the playoff.
Hey, maybe the Aggies are going to be rewarded,
and Mike Elko is going to go on a dream run in the playoff,
and the Aggies are going to win the entire thing.
I don't think they are one of the favorites,
but hey, you get in as a top, one of the top seeds.
No, no, they're not going to be a top four seed.
but my point is you get into the playoff you got a shot
Ohio State won it last year as a six seat
so it can happen
but you are not even waiting
for seasons to be over
I always talk about this this recency bias
and we're so much prisoner of the moment
this is the worst thing ever
that's the best thing ever
this is the greatest coach ever
that's the worst coach ever
to where Mike Elko wasn't the guy
for many Aggie fans last year
all of a sudden you start 11 and oh the guy got an extension 10 months later it's crazy it's just the way of the world but it's crazy and and we'll like I said I like that one of my favorite things about sports first of all I work on this show I talk about a lot of sports and we we end up talking about this and that and how that's going to play out and and time is undefeated time play everything plays out
in due time. That's one thing that I've really learned in 16 years in this business.
It will make a genius of you or oftentimes it will make a fool of you over the years.
We will figure this out. You can have all the hot takes you want. You can get your likes and you
can get your impressions and say all this stupid stuff. But over time, people will see how much
of a fool you will. It reveals all truths, does time. And I'm just curious to see how a lot of
different things play out. I just don't. I have it a feeling in my gut that Lane Kiffin isn't going to
be the guy because he didn't, it didn't work, he left Tennessee, didn't work out at USC, and Ole Miss,
yes, there have been some good, some good seasons there, but it's not like he's completely lit the
world on fire and not necessarily like you're going to get a national championship winning coach
to come to your school anyways. But it's just something doesn't sit right about Lane Kiffin. I can't
exactly put my finger on it. Maybe it's just some of the circumstances and some of the stories
now that are coming out like that he, did you see that story about how he has that dog and it's just
for PR? And then some guy was getting mad at me like, hey, this is, this is a hunting dog and it's
kept at this kennel and you're showing your ignorance here. Like if you have a dog and you don't live
with the dog and you don't take the dog with you to your new place of business or where you're
living, you were using the dog for PR. You're using it for likes and digital hugs. I mean, it just is
what it is. And this other
stuff, is it, I saw this other
stuff, and this is unverified.
Like, apparently he was playing, he was
like at hot yoga and like knocking people
over and doing all this crazy stuff, Ling Kiffin
was. I don't know, man. I got questions
about this dude.
Did you see that?
I saw a picture
when he did the hot yoga with some
the Oxford. Yeah. Oh, the Oxford
yoga girls are all upset, are all
happy that he's leaving their yoga classes.
He was changing the
He was changing the thermostat
Whatever he felt like it
What? I will miss him walking in late for class
With that damn hoodie on knowing his mat is ready
And waiting on him
He would start doing random workouts mid-class
And not follow the instructor
Coming in five minutes late
Leaving 20 minutes early
Man, they're coming after
Len Kiffin off these yoga girls in Oxford
I don't know, just little stuff like that
Now a lot of these coaches aren't necessarily good people
I think people would famously point out
Steve Sarkesian when there was like that
Do you ever see that video
The security guard like bumped him or something like that
And he loses his absolute mind
Oh don't touch me
Like hey relax dude
You just take five smelling salts at one sark
Like relax
And a lot of these coaches aren't good people
They just aren't
Brian Kelly was thought of as not a good person
Like to reach the top
And you know this in your line of work
Or whatever line of work
A lot of times you got to step
on some necks in order to make your
way to the top. And that's just
how it is. People didn't like
Nick Sabin. People didn't think Nick Sabin was a good guy
around Tuscaloosa and didn't get treated well.
But you know what happened? Nick Sabin won a lot of football games.
So that doesn't necessarily preclude
Lane Kiffin from winning at LSU.
But I just
I just got a bad gut feeling about it.
713-212-5-7-90 is the phone number. Paul in Myerland is next up. What's up, Paul?
Hey, well, first I got to ask you, who's this new guy, Josh Gordon?
Josh Jordan?
Gordon, Jordan, doing the nightshap.
Josh Jordan in the afternoon. So I'll give you a little bit of history on that.
Josh Jordan used to be an intern slash reporter for us several years ago.
And then, unfortunately, he got hired away to a competitor because we could not give a competitive.
salary. I mean, it is what it is. And then now he has come back and he is our afternoon
producer for, uh, for Adam and Adam and doing the nightcap with Cole Thompson being
slotted to the morning drive with Dan and Cole. Yeah. Yeah, I've been hearing him in the morning
and taking the kids to school. Uh, but yeah, you need to talk to this young man. Uh, he snubs me on
his first night hosting a show, uh-oh. So that I helped contribute to and make money. Wow.
Do you, does he not know that Paul and Myerland is a legend in his own mind?
well the producer did he said what do you drink this night paul oh wow yeah you were you were having
shining a box weren't you no actually they were out of shiners and had to get some stella applause
yeah i'm sorry okay paul so the purpose of your call was to call me and tell to tell you
to tell josh jordan to take your calls in the nightcap no no no no that's just sideline i want
to know about college football rule changes pass interference defense and pass interference
It always used to be like 15 yards in the first down
But now I'm starting to see spot of the fouls on some occasions
Not all occasions
I think when it's under 15 it's a spot foul
Okay
And over 15 it's
I got you
Okay
That's it
Under 15 is a spot foul
Over 15 you get a 15 yard penalty
Good deal
All right thank you
Appreciate you Paul
I mean I guess I can double
I'll go flip through my rule book
during the upcoming break
but I believe that is let's see
what this is what a oh god
I don't know if we can trust Google AI
penalty call blah blah blah the penalty is an automatic
first down for the offense ball place at the spot of the
foul if it's less than 15 yeah
from the line of scrimmage with a
15 yard penalty if it occurred
more than 15 yards down the field
there's some people that want that in the NFL
to where like there's these questionable calls
45 yards down the field and like a 45
yard gain is pretty insane
I mean that you're talking about flipping the field
that's ridiculous
Yeah I know
Because then you
Then coaches can play
With against that
And that's true
But also I mean
But sometimes the player
The reason the rule is invoked
The way it is
Because people probably
Especially back in the day
When they barely had a forward pass
People were probably like
Ripping guys down
By their face masks
And
And they wanted to make it
A more severe penalty
So I understand as well
But like when it's a tickey tack
You're like I don't even think
That's pass interference
And then you get 40 yards on it
It's kind of crazy
for sure. But I also like
not rewarding where people
do sometimes do it on purpose
in order to avoid a big play.
And I bet you that came more in play when the
forward pass was this new thing like, hey,
hey, these guys are cheating. They keep throwing the
ball forward. What the hell is this?
I'm going to rip this guy down. I don't know what to do.
All right. Anyways, we're going to take a quick break here
on the Matt Thomas show with Ross.
You guys want to get in? You want to ask me some
procedural rules about college football? Actually,
please don't do that.
Let's discuss some college football.
Am I crazy to say Lane Kiffin is going to exit under unfavorable circumstances within four years at LSU?
You want to talk about anything else going on in college football?
You can.
Talking about the Texans and what is going on with them this weekend against the Kansas City Chiefs.
And also, I'm very disappointed in you, NFL.
We'll get to that next.
Do you guys want to get in?
You can.
713-212-5-790 is the phone number 7-13-212-5-7-90.
NFL Rewind is coming up at 120 here on a sports talk 790.
Will and Adam join me?
I don't think so.
Adam Clanton said he's feeling a little bit sick,
so he doesn't want to do the extra time.
I appreciate it.
They also have a meeting, I think.
So could be me.
Flying solo to 2 o'clock.
You know what that means?
That means an opportunity for you to get in
and have free reign on anything you would like to talk about.
713-212-5-790 is the phone number if you would like to get in.
7-13-212-5-7-90.
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I'll follow you back from now until 1 o'clock.
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where, let's see, I put the
poll question
about Lane Kiffin. Do you believe him or not?
He said, I don't know what my contract
is here at LSU. I'm being serious.
Yeah, right. 90%
not 9.5%
believe him. I don't believe
you people even believe. That's probably 9%
finger slips. You know, sometimes you misclick
when you go to the poll, which I do
that time to time on the Twitterverse.
All right, anyways, phone lines open, as I said, 713, 212, 570, if you would like to get in.
I was talking about this earlier, something that is greatly disappointed me, and I'm not even surprised.
I hold NFL Red Zone in very high esteem.
To me, it is like the greatest thing, one of the greatest inventions of my lifetime.
And I wish I were joking, but as a sports fan who has a sports career and has thrown my life into sports, I freaking love Red Zone.
It's nonstopful football action.
And it used to be said by Scott Hansen before the broadcasts, this is seven hours of commercial free football coming your way.
And we knew this was going to happen when ESPN acquired NFL network and NFL Red Zone.
said there we're going to pepper in ads but in week one it was just four 15 second advertisements and
you even had water carrying adam schaefter put a tweet out hey guys this is not a big deal this is
going to be just four 15 second ads we're talking about one minute over the course of seven hour
broadcasts and anybody with a brain with any semblance of sense knows that there is
going to be a slippery slope it's happened with all the streaming services it happened when you remember
when you could skip every youtube app youtube ad within like five seconds i don't get me started on this i know
now you got to get like 45 seconds sometimes before you can get a skip it depends on what you're
watching or whatever it used to be everything was skipping within five then it was 15 now sometimes
it's 30 or 45 it's a slippery slope with advertisers which by the way you can go ahead and uh
patronize our wonderful advertisers here at Sports Talk 790.
I know that advertising dollars make the world go round.
But these slippery slopes that keep happening where they keep on wanting more and more and more.
And the streaming service price goes up and up and up.
And now you have, it used to be when you paid for the streaming service, you did not get ads.
Now you pay for the streaming service and you get ads.
And then you have to pay extra to not get ads.
now the NFL network
and the NFL NFL Red Zone
within one season
they have gone
eightfold
with the advertisements
this article that I'm reading
from awful announcing
eight minutes and 10 seconds
of sponsored elements
throughout Sunday
Sunday's afternoon broadcast
that's so sad
and I know the counter argument
would be like
oh it's just eight minutes
out of seven hours
what's the big deal
but you went from one minute to eight
I'm a thank you
thank you Jonathan
No, I'm seeing it right now.
It's nothing sacred.
It's nothing sacred in this world of ours.
I want to sit down and watch seven hours of commercial free football.
That's what I've been promised by Scott Hanson and NFL Red Zone for years and years.
And frankly, that's just scary to the world of media we're going to grow into.
Is this going to get worse and worse?
Do we have to just be okay with all these commercials everywhere?
We can't just watch something because we want it to?
When does it stop?
Go back to view.
ass and some CDs, man. Because, I mean,
I'm going to tell you, these corporations aren't struggling.
NBC is, well, they're making a bunch of layoffs, but that price, that stock price
keeps going up. That CEO salary keeps going up.
NFL and ESPN and Disney.
Yeah, they're making all these, uh, they're making all these layoffs.
That stock price seems pretty good.
And it's just more and more and more and taking over because this is disease of more.
It's, it's kind of everywhere. I mean, it is what it is.
and maybe I'm just being an old man
shaking my fist at a cloud
but literally in week
you went from last year to no advertisements
to week one
with four advertisements
up to a minute
and now you're talking about
five to eight minutes
within a several weeks time
it's crazy
I just want to watch
football and some of them in double box
and some of them aren't their banner ads
or spas whatever
it's just
It's invading what was a sacred space.
And the reason I'm also railing so much against it is because you have to pay extra for red zone.
Depending on what you have.
You either A, have Sunday ticket, which you get red zone for free, but Sunday ticket ain't free.
Or B, you pay extra for the red zone package with your cable company, or you're paying for NFL Plus, which I do.
So I am paying for a service to watch commercial free football.
And it goes from week one to one minute.
up to five minutes
within the matter of weeks
to eight minutes. Eight minutes
and ten seconds is what this awful announcing
article says of advertising
content. And you know what?
The saddest part about this is
I'm not going to turn it off.
I'm not going to stop watching.
They got me. And they know they got
me, Jonathan. It's almost like they've been planning this for like 20 years.
Oh, well, well, probably not 20 years.
They knew that they were going to soft launch a minute of spots and then
And eventually it's going to be up to like five to ten.
I didn't know it was going to be this quick.
But like think about it.
They threw out streaming and this is my little tinfoil hat on real quick just for a minute.
You thought they, you give us all the streaming.
Like you say you start off from Netflix, okay?
You can't tell me back then when they saw how big Netflix is going into streaming service.
They weren't putting their plan on together.
YouTube and Google have had a plan of when to integrate spots, how to add more.
Yeah, they all have multi-year growth plans.
Absolutely.
You're right.
I just didn't know it was going to be this quick, man.
It just makes me sad to something that was so sacred to me
to where I could sit on my couch and watch what Scott Hansen described as.
That's another reason I'm upset.
I was sold a bill of goods.
Scott Hansen will get on there seven hours of commercial free football.
I'm like, yes, let's freaking go.
No longer.
All right, 713, 212, 5, 790 is the first.
phone number if you want to get in. We're talking about, I don't know, the NFL disappointing me.
We've been talking about some college football. You've got the Texans this weekend, Sunday night
football against the Chiefs. If they win this, how much more are you willing to admit? They are
AFC contenders. 713-212-5790 is the phone number. 7-13-212-5-790. Speaking of advertising,
I think you should go to t-R-tMvP.com. But see, we don't sell. You never say we're going to bring you
commercial-free content here at Sports Talk 7-9.
No.
This is the Matt Thomas show with Ross.
Hour number four of the Matt Thomas show with Ross.
Without Matt Thomas, Ross, Vio, Real with you.
Jonathan Allen is here as well.
Phone lines open at 713-212-5-790, 7-1-3-212.
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Appreciate you, those of you, interacting on the Twitterverse.
Jones says, can't agree more with about Red Zone.
Thank you.
I mean, it was this, it was like a sanctuary, like a football sanctuary.
And it's been invaded by advertisements.
And they should have never, I kind of actually thought about that over the years.
Like, hey, they say, how much longer are they going to be able to say seven hours of commercial free football?
It was so comforting just to hear that.
And then now it's been invaded by spots when week one, when everybody got all upset.
And then they sent out there a little shill, Adam Schaefter, who has to protect the shield.
Hey, guys, it's only one minute of advertising.
And then now by week 13 or whatever we're in these days, it's up to eight minutes and 10 seconds.
Crazy.
How quickly these things go.
and they need more and more and more
because yeah I'm sure Mickey Mouse is struggling
in Disney.
You know what?
Do I dare I even bring up the Disney stock?
I'm sure they're doing quite well.
I mean, that's still probably doing good, huh?
Yeah, it's actually, it's been down, but it's fine.
Whatever.
It's like $100.
It's still up a lot from where it was 10 years ago.
2011, it was $39.
Now it's 105.
Shut up, stockholders.
You don't even need to add all these advertisements.
When does it become enough?
Never, I guess.
Especially, like I said, look, I'm not tuning out.
So they're winning.
It's not enough to make me...
I don't know if there's what they could possibly do
to make me tune out of Red Zone.
It'd take a lot.
I don't think it's going to happen.
So, you win this round, NFL and Disney.
713-212-5-790 is the phone number.
Another tweet from Yon Easy.
Funny you bring up to ads.
Wisney Fluss has ads now.
daughter is pissed. The fine print said they added the commercials now and have to upgrade even
more to ax them. Yeah. It used to be you're playing for whatever Disney Plus or Hulu or
whatever Apple Plus, you pay for the service. You shouldn't have to pay the service and get the
advertisement. As I said, we have advertisers here. We are free. Free on the IHeart Radio app. Free on
7.90 a.m. Check us out on all your podcast pages.
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Let's go. 713-212-579 is the phone number, Jose, holding here on the phone lines.
What's up, Jose?
Hey, guys. How are you all? I'm doing great. What you got?
No, I was just calling in since we're on our soapbox about commercials and advertising.
I just want to say that I appreciate to not hear that not.
nonsense, blue, Dodger, dream, craziness that we're hearing or here in the summer.
Yes.
Now, well, I guess necessarily not paid.
That was from IHeart National.
I'm glad that's over, too.
That was, first of all, our company, in their infinite wisdom, has invested a lot of money into these podcasts.
You heard, like, the John Wall podcast.
You heard the Sarah Spain women's sports podcast.
It was like the, what's it?
Cassidy Hubbard.
Filipino basketball podcast.
These decisions are above my head.
I would rather they invest in our local products.
That's not up to me.
I love you.
I heart, please don't ask me.
But, yeah.
As long as we don't hear it,
it makes it even that better for the holiday.
Yeah, I think once the Dodgers won the World Series,
they ax those.
Thank you, Jose, for getting in.
In their infinite wisdom, they said, we're going to make a podcast about one baseball team,
and then we're going to run advertisements throughout the nation using up our inventory,
and then they are going to, we are going to also do that in Houston where they hate them.
Did they do that in San Francisco?
They hate the Dodgers there too?
Did they do that in, I don't know if there's I heart meat in Toronto.
I don't think there is.
But like wherever else, where they don't like the Dodgers, I don't know.
But of all the markets where you should probably skip advertising for your Dodger Blue podcast, Houston has to be on the short list, if not number one.
But, you know, sometimes you work at your job and you don't think the bosses are necessarily in tune with what's going on down to the nth degree.
Happens here, too.
So that's okay.
Don't listen to the Dodger Blue podcast.
Listen to the Matt Thomas Show with Ross podcast.
It's available on IHeartMedia.
Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Spreaker.
Sure is.
Anywhere you get podcasts, you can check it out.
Jonathan takes the time to cut those up.
We appreciate him, and you can upload those.
And you can listen to those.
We really do appreciate it.
So no Dodger Blue podcast advertisements, at least since the end of the world series that I saw.
713-212-5-790 is the phone number if you'd like to get in.
7-13-212-5-7-90.
Steve is next up holding longest.
What's up?
yeah ross thank you for putting me on before i launch into this i want everybody just so nobody gets me wrong
i love my houston texans proud of the fact that they won the last four games three out of the last four
with the backup quarterback they're doing great god bless them all i think the nfl is fundamentally a better
league when the patriots are winning and they put on quite a show last night um i have some
very good reasons for saying that.
I think they had
such a phenomenal run
of excellence for such a long
time with Tom Brady
and Bill Belichick, and
all of a sudden it looks
like there's a new dynasty
being reborn over there.
And I just, I think it's a wonderful thing.
What do you think about that, Ross?
I think I'm rooting against the Patriots.
I don't necessarily
agree that the NFL is a better
product with the Patriots.
I don't think of them as
Packers,
Steelers,
who else, of course
Cowboys, those types, maybe
like the second tier of that, because they had that
great run, of course. I mean, they were,
I mean, no, don't get me wrong.
There was a time where I would say on this airwave,
Steve, they were America's team ahead of the
Cowboys. The Cowboys...
Go ahead.
Well, I was going to say, no, I
agree with you on that.
And to just add to that,
I think they still are.
And I think there's another, and this is a little abstract here, Ross,
but I think the NFL is better with the Patriots on top because football is America's sport.
I know baseball is Houston sport, but football's America's sport.
So football, since it's America's sport, ought to be patriotic.
Oh, okay, we're going with that angle.
Lord, the boys are
red, white, and blue, we're the Patriots.
I got you.
It shouldn't be about
Colin Kaepernick and taking it to
and all the rest of that.
And I think...
He hadn't been in a league in a long time, Steve.
Exactly.
But the whole take of the
thing sprang from him.
Okay.
And I think I think...
Nobody got hurt.
But I think if the
Patriots won it all this year
because if you're 11 and 2 in December,
your sights are set,
on a Super Bowl championship,
which is where they ought to be.
And should they win it all,
I think it would take that whole era of the NFL
and put it behind us once and for all.
I think that is a ridiculous statement, Steve.
I mean, I don't.
I don't think anybody's thinking about Colin Kaepernick right now.
I just don't.
I even don't talk politics on this show, man.
I mean, it's not even politics, really.
It's football.
What?
The NFL is better with the Patriots
Because of the red, white, and blue
The Chiefs have been winning.
That's fine.
I don't think that anybody's...
Hey, the Eagles are patriotic.
What's more patriotic than an eagle?
They won the Super Bowl last year.
I think that is well overplayed
And not in the minds of anybody.
I haven't even heard the name Colin Kaepernick
on this air in years and years.
I don't think that...
Maybe that's top of mind for you.
and whatever bubble you're living in,
but I haven't thought about him or those,
you know, what's more,
also what's more American than an eagle?
What's more American than protesting something
that you think is an injustice?
I mean,
any who.
Anyways, onto spirits.
Anywho, I don't think,
I honestly don't think of the Patriots
as the NFL's better with them
as like a tier one type of team.
I would, like I said,
some of the teams I'd list,
The Cowboys, of course.
I mean, love them or hate them.
They are.
It is what it is.
There's a reason they're on Sunday night football as much as they are.
Packers, a heritage NFL brand.
The Raiders used to be in that mix.
I wouldn't put them there now.
Steelers, of course, one of the old time.
But it doesn't matter to me in the NFL.
Like, it was the Eagles and the Chiefs last year.
And it was a great Super Bowl.
Kansas City and the Chiefs were not some great huge brand in the NFL.
And that's kind of the beauty of the NFL is you can win everywhere,
anywhere, when they have this hard cap league,
it doesn't matter where you are.
You can be great, as I listed off Green Bay.
Green Bay freaking Wisconsin.
Yeah, you get a lot more eyeballs because of the brand that they are,
but you can also build your own brand.
The Patriots weren't some crazy, great winning historic franchise
before Bill Belichick and Tom Brady
went on their historic run
that they had there.
And the same for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Yeah, they won a Super Bowl with Hank, Hank Stram and the boys
in the 1980s, but they were a dormant franchise
for decades.
You get Andy Reed, you get Pat Mahomes,
you go to four Super Bowls and win a couple of them.
Over a stretch of five, six, seven years, whatever it's been.
Oh, wait, they've won three now.
Jeez.
They've won three Super Bowls since 20.
20. They've been to five. That's insane. Yeah. You know what happens? You become a heritage brand. You become a big deal. You become a great. Right now you could say it's great for the league that the chiefs are good. Nobody was saying that 10 years ago. Nobody's saying that when it was like, I don't know, Matt Castle and whoever else over there, I would put the Ravens on that list. Like the Ravens, when they're great, that's good for the NFL. They're cool. They're fun to watch. Buffalo Bills. They've been great for the NFL. They get a lot.
a lot of eyeballs because they've been good.
Doesn't matter where you are or what the name of your team is.
Just win, baby.
That'd be nice if the Houston Texans could just win against the Kansas City Chiefs this weekend.
We shall see.
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all right NFL rewind in just a second but we had Dave holding so we want to get him really quickly before we do that let's get Dave on the north side what's up hey Ross what's going on my friend
I'm doing very well.
Thank you for asking.
Very good.
Yeah, very good.
Nice to hear you.
We know that the Dallas Cowboys have their own brand, right?
Nationwide and the Dallas Cowboys are called America's team, right?
Yes.
Okay.
So what about the Houston, Texas?
The Houston Texans are in Texas.
Yes.
The Dallas Cowboys are in Texas.
question can you do you think that the Texans brand can be built up off of the Dallas
Cowboys football brand what do you mean off of greater than yeah at least in the state of
Texas, I absolutely do.
There's one solution.
What's the solution?
Win.
Win, win, win, win, and win some more.
When the Texans were actually ripping
off some wins and looking good, it was like the
Brian Cushing,
J.J. Watt, Matt Schaub
era. I don't know if people remember this.
They were doing tours across Texas and they were
trying to invest in
going to the valley in San Antonio and
other places and like they were getting people to
come out like you can it was just a small pop if if they could win i'm talking about like basically
to what the chiefs are or or what like i said what the patriots were if you can rip off multiple
super bowls you could absolutely be the number one team in texas it's for the taking right now
it is you have to ingrain yourself with children you have to to build your bread you honestly
you do i mean you there are people who switch allegiances do you i'll give you an example dave
It's been a tussle for between the Astros and the Rangers in Texas.
People forget when the Astros were terrible and the Rangers were winning or going to back-to-back World Series.
When you went to Minute May Park when the Rangers came into town, don't you remember there was a ton of Rangers fans in town, right?
A ton of Rangers fans in Houston.
Yes.
And they're where you saw Rangers gear everywhere.
And that was just, as I said, a small pop.
That was a couple of years of making back-to-back world series.
If you can make the playoffs, and not just 10 and 7 and out in the first round playoffs,
if you can make deep runs in the playoffs, I'm talking AFC championship games,
Super Bowl appearances, Super Bowl wins, then the winning will, if the winning happens,
the fans will come.
That's just the way of the world.
There's nationwide chiefs fan base that did not exist 10 years ago right now.
Well, Ross, here's my take.
on the Houston
Texas brand. If the
Texans continue,
they're winning
ways right now
and
continue to win
until they get to the AFC
championship game
and try to look up
on getting into the Super Bowl this year
or even next year.
Then,
maybe, just maybe,
if they continue to
win some games,
they're not supposed to win,
then maybe, just maybe,
they'll get their own nationwide brand.
Yeah.
Football-wide.
Yeah, it would take winning.
Now, Houston, Texas is not a great name for nationwide success.
But when Bob McNair named the team,
his vision was to become the team of Texas.
That has not come to fruition and it has not come close.
And the number one reason is they have not won.
I mean, all those teams that I named that are heritage brands of,
of football. We're talking about Super Bowls, winning. Green Bay Packers,
a million NFL championships and a handful of Super Bowls. Steelers, six Super,
what do they have? Five Super Bowls. Like, yeah, you win. Nobody, nobody's,
there's no nationwide brand for the Minnesota Vikings. There just isn't. They haven't won.
You've got to win. It's very, very simple, but it's also hard at the same time. The solution is
simple. Getting there is difficult.
Win, win, win, and win some more.
The Houston Astros have taken over this state.
I'll give you an example. I lived in Austin when I was on campus when I went to UT
around 2003 is when I started there. That was when
you had Bizio and Bagwell and the Astros were making
deep playoff runs and went to a World Series in 2005.
Austin
Austin was an Astros town
Then it became a Rangers town
And now it's back to an Astros town
It's all about who's good
There are diehards
But you have to remember
Most people who are fans are casuals
They put on the gear
They watch the games
They pay attention a little bit more
And most people like to watch winners
Everybody likes to watch a winner
Some people don't get to
So yeah
the more that you win, the more that you can be the bigger brand.
It's very simple.
So if the Texans can get to and win a couple of Super Bowls somehow at some point in their history,
and oh, while the Cowboys, they do have the disadvantage of the built-in Cowboys fan base,
the Cowboys are making Super Bowls and winning, and that would be crazy if they ever played each other.
The Cowboys are the biggest brand, and they have the bigger potential.
but the Texans can win.
That's all they have to do.
They just have not done it.
They have not gotten close, unfortunately.
I mean, you are this late in the game.
Since 2002, you have not made an AFC championship game.
It's embarrassing.
It's embarrassing.
And I'm not saying it's going to happen this year,
but it feels like if they can win against Kansas City,
offense can play a little bit better
they have a Super Bowl
caliber winning
defense
and then you can get more fans
whether it be in Austin, San Antonio,
the Valley, where El Paso,
whoever. Because all those places that I just named
they're Dallas Cowboys hotbeds.
Why? Because it's been ingrained
that Dallas Cowboys won at least previously.
It can be generational as well.
Fandom can be passed down from generation to generation.
Of course kids these days,
they march to the beat of their own drum
give them something to root for
kids love to troll their parents
and root against their interests
so hey what better way
to break a generational curse of cowboy fandom
than have a good Texans team to root for
but kids aren't going to root for a team that's 2 and 10
Las Vegas Raiders aren't picking up a bunch of fans right now
who else is terrible
Saints saints are horrible
Arizona Cardinals
they have no national cachet or brand
they made one Super Bowl
that I can recall
and they haven't won one.
Go out there
and as Al Davis would say
just win baby
and the fans will come.
Happened with the Astros
it can absolutely happen with the Texans.
All right, we went a little long there
so we are going to take a break
and then we're going to get to the NFL rewind
in the next segment.
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He says
That hurts my feelings when he says
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Why?
He just wants you to say that Matt's not here.
Don't hurt the messenger.
I'm just, I'm good.
She's so weird.
You're not here.
How can, and you know what?
I say that out of respect for him.
Because the show is named after him, and that's fine.
I'm the little whatever back pocket guy named Ross.
It's the Matt Thomas show with Ross.
and so out of respect
I still call the show
the Matt Thomas show
when he's out
but I just add that
without Matt Thomas
because he's not here
it can't be with Mick
and that's also a play on
with Ross
without Matt Thomas
because he's not here
how could I possibly
how should I frame this
he wants to say
and Matt is out
just be like
it's the Matt Thomas show
with Ross
and Matt is out
How is that at all materially different from saying without Matt Thomas?
I didn't ask any questions.
Okay.
He told me to tell you when he was out next time.
I'm going to say it the way, you know what?
You want to say it right?
Come back.
All right?
Sit in this chair and you say whatever you want.
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He will be back.
And I always clarify when I say it.
He'll be back tomorrow.
He's out with, I don't know what he's doing.
He's getting some Cyber Tuesday deals.
Whatever he's doing, he's not here.
He'll be back tomorrow.
Rockets will be back in action tomorrow as well.
They got home late last night from Utah.
So Matt Thomas is out today.
Anywho.
We were going to do the NFL rewind here in just a second.
I did get a tweet from Joan.
San Antonio will never be a Texans fan base.
See, I think you under, now first of all, obviously,
San Antonio is a Dallas Cowboys foothold.
Why is it a, why?
Why is it a Dallas Cowboys foothold?
because they won.
I'm not saying the Texans will take over the San Antonio.
But long term of generations,
if they're winning Super Bowl after Super Bowl after Super Bowl
and the Cowboys aren't doing anything,
over time they could definitely go from probably close to 0% fan base
in San Antonio to whatever,
30, 40, 50% depending on how much winning you're doing.
I'm saying it's possible.
I would never say that's impossible.
It would take winning to a,
very high degree for the Texans
to do that. Everything is yours for the
taking if you win.
That's just period.
When it comes to the NFL.
All right. Anyways,
NFL rewind. Let's go ahead
and look at a number of different things. We talked
about this a couple of times early on the show, but I
think it bears repeating. Jackson
Dart getting blown up
by the Patriots a couple
of times in that game. Literally,
did you see, it
was, you ever watched the Manning cast?
Eli and Peyton Manning.
They're like, Jackson Darts got to stop running.
Like, he's right he does.
He's got to learn in this league that you need to go down.
You got to slide.
Literally, like, five seconds later, he gets crushed into the backfield.
Like, he starts to go down, but he takes a big hit.
He's like, yeah, like that.
And then later on in the game, Jackson DART is going down the right side line.
If you see the end zone view, you can tell he should have gone out of bounds like five yards before he did.
Yeah.
He gets absolutely crushed.
Eli and Peter are like, oh my God, what is he doing?
Jackson Dart said, oh, I'm sorry, two all-time.
Okay, Eli Manning's not an all-time great, but he did win two Super Bowls.
An all-time great quarterback and a guy who knows a little bit about quarterbacking who won two Super Bowls.
Eli Manning are telling you to stop taking all these hits.
And Jackson Dart says, nah, I'm good.
Look, I'm going to keep playing aggressive.
No, hopefully everybody can take a second to watch my take.
they're going back to high school and realize that this is not a shock.
Like, I play the game aggressively.
I took one hit that people are talking about.
I slid, got out of the way of a lot of hits.
So I appreciate people, you know, wanting to, you know, me to be healthy and all that stuff.
And I want to be healthy too.
But I play this game aggressive.
So I'm not going to just change how I play the game.
I'm Jackson Dart.
I'm 22 years old.
I'm the hot shot first round.
I'm in the toast of New York.
I know better than you,
Hall of Famers.
Okay.
All right, Mr. Dart.
Oh, my God.
Sorry, Early Holland just missed.
I'm watching Fullman Man City.
Look at this, guys.
Early Holland just missed a sitter.
I mean, my, I mean, he opened it up for himself.
All right, let's move on.
All right, let's, you know what?
It's the football rewind, right?
Talking about Early Holland missing shots.
Terrible.
All right.
Anyways, moving along in NFL.
circles. The Kansas City
Chiefs have
lost their last game. They did
against the Cowboys. They
are 6 and 6 now.
And Andy Reed
was asked questions
about winning out to make the playoffs. Here it is
with the reporter's question. I'm sure you've
looked at the standings. This isn't your
first rodeo. You know
that you pretty much have to win the next five
games. If you lose one, you're
going to need a lot of help to get into playoffs.
What's your level of confidence that things
can start going your way and that you can win these next five games in a row.
Yeah, well, I believe that.
I mean, I believe you come, if you're coming to me on this, Matt, I'm telling you,
we're going to go after you every game.
And, you know, that's how we roll.
We're going to try to tickle your tonsils on every play, every game.
And, but that's the attitude that we're coming in with.
And then you let the chips fall where they may.
But at the same time, you've got to make sure you take care of the small things here that we've got rolling.
We've got to make sure that we get rid of some of these mistakes.
But there's not a game that I go into that I don't think we're going to get after you.
We're going to tickle your tongue.
What does that mean?
I guess like, you know, getting your face and your mouth, but like, you know, I'm going to say that I'm going to punch you now.
We're going to tickle your tonsils every game down the stretch.
Like, I don't even know he's going to make out with you.
what is he tickling the tonsils with
I'm out of loss
for Andy Reed
is he from? Is he from the song? I don't know.
I don't even want to Google search
tickle tonsils on my work laptop.
I'm not trying to get red flagged by the FBI.
So I don't know where that came from.
But there you go. Andy Reed
says that the
the Kansas City Chiefs are going to tickle your tonsils.
I got a persistent, irritating sensation on the back of your throat
that can be caused by several things.
What does that mean, though?
What does that mean in a football context?
I guess it's just, like, it's just going to be irritating.
Like, you're going to be irritating, you're going to be always, like, persistent.
Oh, you're going to be irritating.
Oh, they're going to be persistent.
Yeah, that was, I don't know.
Chiefs scheduled down the stretch, home for the Texans on Sunday night football,
home for the Chargers at the Titans, home for the Broncos.
than at the Raiders.
It's winnable.
Big ones being, of course,
the Broncos and the Texans,
well, and the Chargers,
and they get all of those games at home.
Hopefully,
Texans can pull another upset this weekend
on Sunday night football.
All right, elsewhere in the NFL,
some news.
Apparently, Teron Matthew
is interested in a reunion
with the Houston Texans.
I do know this.
The Texas,
The Texas, the way the Texans play defense?
You.
Man, listen, I'll come back to play for a defense like that.
Are you ready to come back?
I mean, for the right situation, who wouldn't?
That's the Honey Badger, right?
Yes, Taran Matthew, the Honey Badger.
He retired earlier.
Wasn't he in camp, I think, with the Saints?
I think he was, yeah, exactly.
He's like, ooh.
Yeah, you know what, guys, I'm going to go ahead and retire.
It's like, who was that Buffalo Bills DB the other year?
He retired like at halftime.
I don't think of his name into my head.
I can't think about it.
Hold on.
I'm literally looking at it up right now.
Yeah, Vonte Davis.
Yes.
They were getting their ass kicked.
He's like, yeah, guys.
You know, team on three?
One, two, three.
Me.
I'm out of here.
See you guys.
Vonte Davis said one, two, three, Cancun at halftime.
That's basically what, at least Tyron Matthew didn't do it at halftime.
I think he did it in training camp.
33 years old.
yeah he was like
yeah we're good
I'm gonna go
but Tyron Matthew
back in a Houston
Texan's uniform
says he's interested
you would have to make a trade
because he's on the reserve
retired list
if the Texans were interested
in doing that
I don't even can you even do that
past a trade deadline
can you retire a retired player
or how would that even work
I don't even know
I don't know the ins and out to this
yeah I don't even know that was the thing
I don't know anything
about any of this
all right
any who
moving along over
the weekend of the NFL
some big games. Well, you knew the
Thanksgiving results that we had with the
Cowboys beating the Chiefs. As
predicted, by one
Mr. Jonathan Allen. Congratulations to you.
Y'all need to get with the program.
You have a new leader
in the AFC South.
The Tennessee Titans, I mean, can you show up?
I guess they didn't both times against the Texas.
They kind of showed up the second time, but not really.
Texas were just terrible.
What's going to with the Jaguars
leading the AFCI.
They get the Colts at home
Then they play the Jets at home
Who are terrible of course
At the Broncos and at the Colts again
And then the Titans at home
So it'll be interesting to see how this shakes out
Texans need to beat the Colts again
They split with the Jaguars already
Who do you think right now
Jonathan the favorite in the AFC South
Texans
Ooh
Ooh
Because the Colts and Jagu
are going to play each other twice.
Yeah, and actually, you know what?
I'm a shout out because I was listening to 18.
Okay, he's laying it out.
Yeah, and he was putting the perspective.
I think he was in the morning with Cole and Dan,
and he was saying that they had those two tiebreakers,
so the Texans just need to win this game with the Chiefs,
and they have it.
Okay.
Hopefully it can happen this weekend.
I'm feeling good.
I'm just letting it bubble.
I'm letting it, I'm letting it simmer.
I'm not bringing it to a full boil,
but I'm just planting the seed for you, folks.
could the Texans
win the
AFC
the Patriots are major favorites
Broncos didn't look like world beaters
when they came in
and Davis Mills
threw like 30 passes in that game
I'm just saying
I'm not saying it's going to happen
I'm saying it's feeling possible
all right quick break here
on the Matt Thomas show
with Ross
without Matt Thomas
because he's not here
we're going to take quick break
Ross Villar with you
Jonathan Allen is here
You know what? We're not playing, believe it or not.
So if you want to get in real quick, you can.
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Final segment coming up next.
Jonathan Allen will be happy to know.
Manchester City have taken a 1-0 lead over Fulham.
Okay, okay, okay.
Hey, you know what?
I'm going to get you on a Premier League band landing.
You want to come root for winners, baby?
Manchester Sita.
I'm more of a La Liga guy, but, you know.
Oh, La Lala Liga, who's your squad?
I don't have a squad, though.
Barcelona?
I like how they play better, though.
I was always with, I was always a Barcelona.
I mean, I used to watch Messi when he was there.
Like, I knew that I was watching.
Messi is the greatest professional sports person that I've ever seen in my life.
Like the best at sports at whatever you want to call it.
He was better at his sport than anybody I've ever seen.
And I knew that.
So I would watch be in sports.
I would record all the Barcelona games.
And I would sit there and watch because I knew I was watching something that was special.
and that would not last forever.
Yeah, and I was always a messy guy
playing FIFA back in the day.
I was always, you would.
You would be cheesing with Mephy,
messy?
No, because I...
Dribbling past everybody
and curling in left-handed, left-footed shots.
You know, Ronaldo, I didn't really like him.
You know, I wasn't a fan of his game.
Oh, he's good.
No, I'm not...
No, just credit, but I'm just...
When they had Gareth, Bail and Binzema,
and those are great teams, too.
I used to watch the Real Madrid games, too,
because I was watching...
Look, I'm Messi is better than Rualo,
though, but Ronaldo was all-time.
great too. So yeah, I would
record those games and watch. I mean,
this is why I'm sitting in this chair, because
I love sports. I like watching
all-time great special stuff
that I know I'm not going to be able to see
for a long time. So,
anyhow, I was a Barcelona
guy when Messi was there, and I mean, I kind of
soft route for Barcelona. Real Madrid's
the evil empire, but they're pretty
darn good, too. All right, anyways, Alex
has been holding and wants to get on.
So Alex, what's up?
you know ross you've had some weird ass phone calls today uh people really dig in and mining and
trying to like uh i don't know man nobody even said innunaki so i was kind of disappointed or talked
about like the arctic wall but what about planet naburu you see there was so much meat on that bone
and they just like got hung up on patriotism Colin Kaepernick god what the hell was that anyway um
just to just to kind of wash that away i'm 39 years old i'm dating this girl you live in the
houston area can you can you can you shoot me a couple of cool places that i could take her 30 oh um okay
hold on let's let's talk about you don't want to drink too much is that what you said yeah we like
nice things we like more nice places okay so you're looking you're looking for like fine dining
nothing too fancy oh why is what is this
Um, okay, uh, what time, uh, so do you want to go to like a cocktail bar? You're trying to look for a restaurant. Like, what exactly are, are you looking for? You want some, like, just some Mexican food, you want, something like that, a hidden gym that I don't know about. Hidden gym that you don't know about. Oh, man, I'm not, hmm. I'm trying to think of like a date place. Like, there are some restaurants, like, they're more like divey type places that I, um, what about the one we saw and that's a lot?
I'll go over there next to the Westheimer, off post oak.
We went with the...
Oh, you're talking about the conservatory?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, it's not the conservative.
Is it called the conservatory?
Yeah, it's called the conservatory and gallery.
Have you heard of that, Alex?
It's a place, it's kind of like a food court, and you can walk around and go a bunch of different places.
You can choose different foods.
They have booze, and it's kind of cool to walk around.
Good job, Jonathan.
They also have...
Perfect.
I mean, it's like post Houston is kind of like that.
You have been a post?
No.
Yeah. Okay, yeah. It's a bunch of different restaurants. Like, I hope that, it was it, Ethiopian, whatever West African place it was in there, oh my God, it's going to change your life. That was so good. Go ahead.
I appreciate it. One last thing. I've been saying this for about two years now. I don't understand what the hangup is or what, what's stopping y'all. But I would love to watch y'all on YouTube or Twitch or something. There's another show. I'm not going to say which.
My shift starts at noon, so I wake up a little bit later in the afternoon.
And I enjoy watching another show at the beginning of the day.
And it's great.
But whenever y'all come on, I switch over to y'all.
I wish that I could just watch y'all too, man.
It would be great.
You and Matt on TV, Jonathan as well, man.
It needs to happen.
Even if it's just like not on Space City Home Network, it was just something low budget.
I don't care.
We would watch it up.
I would like to, and I'm honestly not sure how much I'm allowed to divulge about that.
Let's just say there are technical roadblocks that we are not sure we want to jump over here.
That's really the only way I can phrase it.
It has to do with the audio.
I would love to have a stream.
I mean, we literally have cameras on in here.
You can check out our good friends Adam and Adam on Space City.
home network. We have the capability. We have the technology. Also, we would have to hire another
producer to work it. And then, you know, you'd have to hire a couple of staff to work on
something like that as well. What's Charlie Polillo doing? Charlie Polillo is not going to show up
and produce our television. But that's a good, no, thank you. We just heard back from Charlie. There you
go. All right, Ross. Well, I love the show, man. Love you guys. Y'all have a good one, man.
All right, thank you.
Appreciate it, Alex.
Alex, send me a DM on either Instagram or Twitter,
and I will get back to you with a list.
Because I have a couple of places.
I also don't want to give away a bunch of free plugs.
And I'm a gatekeeper.
I'm just kidding.
I was just kidding.
I'm not.
No, sir.
I bring you to all the good places, don't I?
Everywhere I brought you, being good.
That's because I'm in the circle.
That's different.
No, no, no.
You're not in any circle, John.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
I am not a gatekeeper.
I'm not.
If a place is good, I don't like it.
But, you know, Matt Thomas gets mad when we put free plugs on this.
I don't want to plug a station.
I'm actually legally not supposed to.
It's called Plugola.
I'm not supposed to legally plug a place and not get paid for it.
I can't do that.
Not that they would give me underhanded payments or anything, but that wouldn't be bad.
But I also actually would be very illegal.
Don't do that.
Thank you.
All right.
Anyways, Alex, yeah, send me a DM at SportsRV on either Instagram or Twitter.
I'll drum up a list of some places.
I got some ideas for you
if you're looking for some nice restaurants
around the Houston area.
All right, well, I guess on that note,
that's going to do it for the Matt Thomas show
here on Sports Talk 790 with Ross,
without Matt Thomas?
Because he wasn't here today.
He'll be back tomorrow.
Don't you worry your pretty little heads about it.
10 to 2 here tomorrow on the Matt Thomas show
where we'll probably get Coach Udoca.
I don't even know what the heck's going on.
Matt sends emails. I don't read them. So we got some other fun stuff going on as well.
He'll be back. I will be back as well. Jonathan Allen will be here. Thanks so much to all of you for listening.
Thanks so much to those you called, tweeted, got involved in the show. I do really appreciate it.
Thanks to Chris Gordy for showing up. Reverse thanks to the Adams for not showing up and not responding my text.
They're coming up next at 2 o'clock. They are called the A team. Don't go anywhere.
