The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - Rockets vs Cavaliers Tonight!, Getting Closer To Texans vs Bills

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

Rockets vs Cavaliers Tonight!, Getting Closer To Texans vs Bills...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross. 10-1 in H-town. Good morning, and welcome to a Wednesday edition of the Matt Thomas show. Today from cold, cloudy, dreary Cleveland, Ohio. Said everyone that lives in Cleveland for like nine months a year. Ross, Villarreal, how the hell are you, my brother? doing great, Matthew. Sounds like it's dreary over there, but I imagine
Starting point is 00:00:33 you're inside and some five diamond accommodations. You're doing okay? That is accurate? I have an important question to start the show. Yes, sir. How'd the casino go? Very well. You're going to be mad. I'm not going to be mad. Unless you yelled at a poor old lady for playing her hand the way
Starting point is 00:00:52 she wanted to. No, no, no, no, no. Okay. It was a very slow night. Not every table was open. It's a Tuesday in Cleveland, Ohio. It is what it is, okay? Only the true degenerates are there. So this casino, I thought, had an affiliation with the big club casinos. The Jack does not.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Jack Casino does not. So, you know, they're not worried. You know, they're probably a little more worried about their margins than perhaps the Reesers or the MIMG MEMs. I could only find 6'5 on the blackjack. There's not a literally not a single three to two table? I looked at about eight tables. There could be, maybe at the $50, high limit, $100. When did you get three to two?
Starting point is 00:01:31 I was betting $15 a hand, and I was, look, I was only going to go for a neck an hour, so I need to get some work done and get ready for the show today. So I said, you know what, I'm just going to just take the L, because I know my great friend and my partner would be so disappointed in me, but I had to play $6.5.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I don't know. A for lighting money on fire, and B, for being, giving the casino's reasons to keep only giving $6.5 because people sit at it. I refuse. You know, I'm done with craps. I told you that. Are you sure? I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:02:01 That's what I thought you were going to say when you said I was going to be disappointed in you. I thought you were going to say you rolled some dice. No. I will say I'm plus 170 for the trip, so I'm very, very happy. Good job. Yeah, I figured to be pleased with me. All right. So yesterday, our flight up here was fine for a while, and then it got kind of bumping the last hour.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And normally I'll have maybe an alcoholic beverage or something to kind of ease the bumpiness, but that wasn't going to be a possible on another flight. So I decided to go to my Twitter account. This plane we're on right now has fantastic internet. And so, I mean, it is, it's like what Shmired is using now, where you, like, that Starlink or whatever it is, where you get it, like, it's instantaneously. It's really good. That's bad, actually. Probably should be off her phones more.
Starting point is 00:02:45 I went to the 4-U tab. Oh, no. What's her name? No. You always think the worst of me on the 4-U tab. I mean, that's fairly accurate. I mean, I do see Taylor stuff on there and her bets. Uh-huh. How's she doing? How's her baby?
Starting point is 00:03:01 She's bouncing. Baby or her? Oh, my God. By the way, her... Taylor put a photo up of her husband. He looks like a normal dude. I mean, nothing out of the order. He's probably rich. My thought was he was like a 70-year-old sugar daddy.
Starting point is 00:03:17 It's probably a finance, bro. He is. Millions of dollars. He got in the ground floor on Bitcoin or something. So I was looking up texting stuff because CJ officially was ruled out for the game tomorrow. and was Jalen Petrie. So the 4U tab I put in Davis Mills just to kind of see what the vibe was.
Starting point is 00:03:37 There are too many people. Fans, which I get, because fans are fans, but like media and what do they call when you're looking for people to acknowledge your tweets and interact, I'm not fishing for...
Starting point is 00:03:54 Impression farming? Farming. Farming for interaction. click baiting rage baiting yes all that there is a vibe out there and I believe it's by a very small group of people but it is a vibe
Starting point is 00:04:10 that are excited about Davis Mills trying to beat the Buffalo Bills tomorrow night not necessarily to say that hey we want the Texans to win we want Davis Mills to do well there is a small narrative that says that Davis Mills might have been maybe better equipped to beat the Buffalo Bills
Starting point is 00:04:28 and that Davis Mills may be better equipped to run the Texans. In my history of my life, sports RV, that may be one of the ten worst takes I've ever seen on Twitter in my entire life. That's on the list. Look, I don't think CJ is perfect. In fact, CJ probably would you say Ross,
Starting point is 00:04:53 to be, let's be brutally honest, a slight regression from his amazing freshman years in an NFL quarterback. He is underwhelmed, But he bounced back with a couple of big game. I mean, once he started to find a rhythm is when he got his concussion, unfortunately. But by no means has he embarrassed himself. By no means, is he a guy that should be worried about his playing time.
Starting point is 00:05:10 By no means, should he be worried about people behind him. Especially because I've got a tremendous sample size of Davis Mills. Davis Mills is a really nice backup quarterback that can help you out in a pinch for a couple of games. Any team that uses Davis mills for 17 games, and I don't want to be rude to Davis because I'm sure he's a swell fella. but 17 games of Davis Mills probably gets you in the 6 to 7 win range. And that's what now people in this town want, correct? Correct. He's made a couple of big throws.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Most importantly, he has been at the helm of winning both games, and he's been a nice backup option, but he is not C.J. Stroud. He's not close. There was nothing in the game against Tennessee on Sunday that made me at any point for three hours ago, God, what could this team do if Davis was the real number one quarterback? That was never discussed in my mind.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Did we not watch the first half the game against the Tennessee Titans? Yes. The Tennessee Titans. Yes. Where they scored 16 points in the whole game, and it was zero at half, right, or three? Three nothing. Zero, yeah, three nothing. There is nothing that I see in C.J. Stroud that makes me think,
Starting point is 00:06:24 Plan B may be better than plan A. Like back in the day, Ross, this is OG Rockets old school OG. Kenny Smith would start games for the Rockets. But there was this young chap named Scott Brooks who would come into the fourth quarter and play. And he'd play well. I remember a young Matt Thomas Sportscaster. This is a young, this was while I was doing the PA too.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Just cutting my chops as a support hose. So people were calling like, man, we need to start Scotty Brooks. The Pocket Rocket. The Pocket Rocket. And I think we've run into this in sports a lot. Yes. We've all loved with the backup. The backup is a backup for a reason.
Starting point is 00:07:03 I trust the football acumen of Nick Casario and of D'Amico Ryan's more than I do Texan Tom. Okay. Stephen Silas is holding back Gary Clark. Let's see. Josh Christopher needs to be unleashed. Well, the Isaiah Hardinstein people ended up being right. That's true. Montes, Munti, you and us, like, yeah, we love the backups.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Maricio DuBahn for the Astros. Oh, what are going to do? Should we trade Al-A Al-Tubei now that Dubon's playing soap on second base? Yes, you took a call. Matt Tom, we're not making this up. We're not hot-taking. Matt Thomas took a call. Dubon is hitting hot.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Should we trade Al-Tuvei? I'm bothered by this, Ross. I have to consistently defend the sports acumen of people. in our community in particular I'm troubled by this I'm troubled that someone and maybe it's just a bit because look we do bits on the show too
Starting point is 00:08:06 I'm okay with that oh yeah but not when it comes to our takes I don't think I don't make it when I come to you folks with a take it's real as I believe it yeah if you go to the show with it and again I don't know who it was I'm just looking at this is fan
Starting point is 00:08:20 this could be people doing their YouTube pages this could be people just looking to get some views because their media careers are complete nothings. But you can't reasonably decide at the end of the day, even if Davis Mills beats the bills tomorrow night. And my guess it won't be because of Davis Mills. He may help, but my guess is the reason why the Texans beat the bills tomorrow night is because Josh Allen has a terrible
Starting point is 00:08:45 game. And the worst run defense in the NFL gets to see Woody Marks go for 115 yards. Okay, that's the reason why. It ain't going to be because Davis Mills is 26 of 34 for 3.43 and three touchdowns. Okay. And if that happens then that's really great for the Texans. It's funny. He was 26 of 41.
Starting point is 00:09:05 His completion percentage hasn't even been great. His yards per attempt haven't been great. He's had a couple of good throws, but he's had a lot of bad ones too. I mean, are these people watching these games? I just under no circumstance can see a spot in my mind
Starting point is 00:09:21 that says, if Davis does something special tomorrow that there should be a serious conversation about it. So that's all I wanted to say was that the 4U tab is dangerous and I caught myself up to it. So I apologize to you, the great people of Houston, for even bringing it up. Because my guess is many of you are decent sports fans.
Starting point is 00:09:41 You may not have perfect takes. None of us do. But you're not going to the, can Davis Mills take the starting spot away from CJ if they beat the bills tomorrow night? That's patently absurd. that's all I'd say thank you Matt
Starting point is 00:09:57 sometimes we gotta sometimes you gotta come correct all right so bad takes for seeing I know so a couple weeks ago I was gone for a day and you guys had like a little fantasy football court yes we're gonna play we're gonna do something a little off that I've got two things I need rulings
Starting point is 00:10:12 oh okay so I've decided and saying hey Ross I need a ruling we're gonna call it sports RV court oh great and you're the judge wonderful Jonathan is the bailiff Okay. And I am the Doug Llewellyn, for those of you that are OG people's courts fans. I'll just present the case to you, and you are the judge, and you'll be deciding this thing.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I'm excited. Now, whether you decide in favor of one person or the other, that's up to you. But the judge makes the final decision. So, folks, if you don't like Judge RV's decision, you can certainly debate them. But I got a couple of good cases for you today on the show, and we'll get that coming out. All right. Also today at E. 1130. We have shut your bum ass up.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And if you heard Jeremy White, excuse me, if you heard Jeremy White earlier today from WGR, he was on with Dan Matthews 30 minutes ago. So Jeremy White was a guest that I booked for us today. We're going to push you back to 1 o'clock this afternoon. And I already texted Jeremy. We're going to be way more entertaining than Dan was. Okay. I mean, I love you, Dan, but we're going to get into some things.
Starting point is 00:11:19 We're going to get into Bill's Mafia a little bit. Okay. Don't you want to know the inner workings of Bill's Mafia? Not really. I'll give you the inner workings of Bill's Mafia. Bushlight. Like, how big the girls are? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:34 Oh, my gosh. Like, do the girls jump on tables to? I'm sure there's a lot of fine young ladies in Buffalo, New York. Do you really believe what you just said? I've never been there, so how could I say? Okay. What do you think they look like? I think they look like nice young ladies.
Starting point is 00:11:51 What do you mean? Why don't you Google Buffalo Bills fan, female fans, see how that turns out. I'm sure there's a lot of hot ones. Okay. We'll get Jeremy White's take on this in a much more politically correct way. We're also going to find out if Josh Allen's going to be any good. You know, Josh Allen doesn't play well against Texans. Well, it's not about him not playing well, Matt.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Why don't you give some credit to the Texans swarm? I do get credit to Texans. It's not Josh Allen having a bad game. It's the Texans defense playing well. and Demico Ryan's. It was a rookie Will Anderson. Yes. Texas defense owns Josh Allen.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Believe it or not. 713-212-5-7-90. Now, if any of you are there, you went to your Twitter account and said, I can't wait for Davis Mills to beat the bills so we can have a quarterback debate. If you're that person and would like to potentially justify your argument, I'll listen to it. I'm probably going to make fun of you, but I'll listen to it. Now, if you can't do it and you think it's the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard in your life, then let me know that as well, because I just want to make sure that our awesome listening audiences
Starting point is 00:13:05 the Matt Thomas Show of Ross doesn't really believe that. Can't possibly believe that. Also today, the Astros Infield Rossi got a little less congested. We'll get to that too coming back. Our time is 10.13. It's Matt and Ross with you until 2 o'clock this afternoon. 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90.
Starting point is 00:13:28 You can't possibly believe that Davis Mills is a better answer than C.J. Straub. You just can't. I don't think I'm going to let you do it. So even if you do believe it, I'm going to spend the next two hours, three hours, and 48 minutes of this show convincing you otherwise. And, oh, by the way, Ross, we've got a big game tonight in the old NBA. Your beloved Houston Rockets taking on the Cleveland Cavaliers. Let's go, Houston.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Pay attention to these rockets. They're worthy of it. They deserve your attention. They just do. Yes, they do. 713. 212.12. 790.
Starting point is 00:14:00 We got sports RV court coming up later on this hour, the Matt Thomas Show at Ross, you're here in Cleveland. 713-212-5-7-90. If you want to join our radio program today, 7-1-3-212-5-7-9-0. Ramon, you're really. not tendered by the asteros or Ross.
Starting point is 00:14:21 There's one less spot in the infield to worry about now for 2026. Well, we had speculated all off-season that either of Dubon or Ureus would be gone, and we got our answer. Dubon wins it because of attendance, right? In terms of, I guess, loyalty? I will say a couple things.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Eurias is more of an infield guy, and Dubon can play both, but also you have a lot. I thought it could be Dubon because, you do have a lot of outfield options, which we can talk about the rumors now that Jake Myers could be traded to kind of help out with that glut of that. So you have a glut of outfielders
Starting point is 00:14:57 with, you know, young guy, Zach Cole emerging and Zach DeZenzo. I mean, if he's going to be healthy in play, Jake Myers, Jake Melton, like you've got outfielder. So I thought maybe Eureas could be the guy who would survive. But yes, DuBahn is a great clubhouse guy. Everyone loves him. He's got gold gloves to his name.
Starting point is 00:15:16 They love his versatility. if you do have outfielders who go down and you can you can stick him anywhere so yeah we will say by the way astro's legend yeah we will by the way we will save the jake myers fan club get together meeting for 11 o'clock hour because i feel like we're stressing out you may you may need to open up a secondary branch outside of the greater 713 area code we might just have to close up shop i don't know well i mean there's just too much smoke to this i mean his name just can't stop being brought up and trade conversations. It makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Let's go to Roger at 1022 on the Matt Thomas show at Ross. Roger, good morning to you. Good morning, gentlemen. I hope your days going fine. I just have a kind of like a critique
Starting point is 00:16:01 to see Jay Stroud. And this is something that has to be done in the all season. This season is what it is. I'm not sure why no coach has come to this kid even before he turned pro about how he goes about his business
Starting point is 00:16:14 and football, The way his slides are just as awkward as anything I've ever seen. It's like a baby spawn trying to, you know, find his way towards walking or something. It just begs for injury. And if this team's going to go anywhere, we all know it's going to be a big part of that. And so many three games and counting, this guy's already got multiple injuries due to the concussions. And this is something that has to be fixed going forward because, you know, everybody loves Davis-3-3-Nillers. We've got three games that we're going to be favored to lose every one of them.
Starting point is 00:16:53 So, I guess what I'm saying is, you know, somebody's got to coach this kid up and get him to meet the football without wrecking himself. And also on the Astros front, yeah, man, did he chopping season open? We either do something about, you know, getting some guys with some pop on this team. and I think we have too many players that don't have natural positions like a Yordon doesn't have a natural not. A Chavez kind of misplaced
Starting point is 00:17:23 and someone else. But I just think you can find positions for Yorra maybe put them at first. I don't know. You got you've got charters. It's going to be a log jam. I hope they do something with all these
Starting point is 00:17:37 misplace parts. So like that, guys. Thanks, Roger. I feel like Roger's cooking something in the backer. You ever notice that? Hmm. Well, he's like, boiling up some pork chili or what? Yeah, I think he's working in the new Red Lobster kitchen.
Starting point is 00:17:53 You know what those new shrimp bowl things are doing? Yeah. Okay. He's whipping up some Cheddar Bay biscuits? Yeah, Cheddar Bay biscuits. He's got the crab oil going. He's making chowder in the back, and there's a lot of steam back there. Which, by the way, I saw Costco. You can buy that mix if you're interested.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Can we go to Bad Robster? You and me and just check this out, because the commercials look really I have not been inside of a bed bobster Yeah Probably since 2003 I think
Starting point is 00:18:24 There is one I drive by every day At 59 it's an Humble Right across from Deerbrook Mall And the cheddar bay biscuits are crack I mean that's just it is what it is Everything else there is mid But I mean the bad The boil bags look really good
Starting point is 00:18:39 Uh I'm You buy can we do this instead of habachi no that's funny don't forget by the way don't forget you added you multiple times you upgraded from fast casual to abacchi
Starting point is 00:18:57 and then you upgraded to an addendum and added on fast food lunch all right we're going to use what we're going to do this is my Christmas meal to you we're going to go to bed bobser for the for the crab boil for the shrimp boil because they put in a bag and all the stuff comes out and I like it looks good plus the guys on there
Starting point is 00:19:11 the CEO's doing a thing like hey we're new we're better we're doing this i'll buy it i'll buy into it i love crab meat but i mean you got to get out like when you have to get out a set of tools to eat something okay i want to go back to rogers's initial okay if you're going to go try to find me a quarterback or teach a quarterback not to be a quarterback like scramble and run occasionally and throw and face pressure then you're never going to find a quarterback what what roger tried to describe is not possible in 2000. First, it's not possible in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:19:43 You just can't, you can't teach. Now, if they're running with their head on fire and they're jumping into a big fray to get the extra yard or trying to do the old Pat Mahom's Deak where he steps in out of bounds when he's, you know, it fakes like he's going back in bounds. That's one thing.
Starting point is 00:20:00 C.J. Straub, for all of his potential deficiencies, it's not of a lot, but he's got a few, he doesn't run himself into injuries. He just doesn't. He prefers to stay in the pocket as long as he maynally possible. He does scramble, but he's not scrambling himself into being hit by a massive defensive lineman. So this whole thought of, I need to try to figure out a way to keep my quarterback from avoiding injury.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Good luck. Good luck with that because you ain't able to do it. I don't think, I mean, Roger's saying he's the worst slider. I don't think of him as some kind of like bad slider. I guess I haven't noticed or anything. He slid, he's, on the play he got hurt by, he slid the right way. The guy already left to go make the tackle at the shoulder blades. There's nothing.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Yeah. You can't stop, you can't freeze frame to linebackers going after running backs that are running. You just can't. Well, yeah, too, remember Tua Tuna Volo? Wasn't he learning like judo moves or something like that or jiu-jitsu so he could learn how to fall? Maybe C.J. Strav's trying to do that. I'll give you that. I mean, I, but I would not characterize.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Tua wasn't fighting when he was getting a lot of his concussions. No. I don't think C.J. is reckless. And if he was reckless, we'd say as much. No, people said that about Jackson Dart, and then look what happened to him. Yeah, he's, I mean, I feel like Baker Mayfield sometimes can be a guy who kind of sticks his nose in there more than he should. Now, I will say this, there are some quarterbacks that take hits better than others. The guy we're going to see tomorrow night, Ross, Josh Allen takes hits. Well, yeah, he's also like 6'5 and 250 pounds. So, I mean, yeah, he's big. he's really i mean so short of six four two fifty like andrew luck was you're going to run into some
Starting point is 00:21:44 guys they're going to have trouble and Andrew luck was a big guy and guess what he quit because he kept getting concussed and he wasn't a scrambler he insisted on staying in the pocket perhaps much to his detriment i think it's easier so than done i just now again if you have a scrambling quarterback that ain't going to fly that uses his legs as much he does his feet but bacon manfield i was watching that buccaneers bills game he he has to use his feet every quarterback if you have there are no more tom brady's being growing in the NFL even guys that don't run get hurt joe burrow by no means would you consider him an exemplary scrambler he gets her all the time it's a byproduct of position which then goes back to my son's report of a couple of days ago that's why you got to
Starting point is 00:22:31 just hope and pray that your guy doesn't get hurt and that concussions can certainly worry, you know, shorten up a man's career and also put you in a difficult spot when it comes to putting as much money. CJ Strzron on a rookie contract with concussions, it hurts because he's your guy. When he's making $60 million a year and you're devoid at other positions because of that, it hurts a little bit more. It's just the honest truth. But you got to do it, I guess.
Starting point is 00:22:57 You got to do it? They're going to do it. He's going to get signed. He's going to get signed. Any hometown discount? David Mulligan is like, shut your bum ass up. Robert and Ray will get to you in a couple minutes.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Oh, by the way, Frambert Valdez said thanks, but no thanks to the Astros qualifying offer, Ross. You and I were stupid enough to think he may take it for a year. I think earlier I said that, but then once I saw the projections of his contracts, I was like, okay, no. Then the pain of the aspirin wore off, and our pain came back. Yeah, I think we here in Houston see him a little bit differently
Starting point is 00:23:35 than the rest of the country. So let me ask you this. Would you be rooting against him then? No, why? If he's playing for an America League West team, I will be. Well, yeah, I'm not going to be actively checking his box scores, hoping he gets shelled. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:23:51 But let's put it this way. We won't be rooting for him like we rooted for George Springer. That's a God's honest truth. Huh. I don't know. That's an absolute 100%. I'm going to, well, this is, um, uh,
Starting point is 00:24:05 You brought something my attention about how spiteful I am when it comes to rooting interests. When people say somebody is terrible in the worst, for example, I'll give you this, LeBron James, I root for him harder because all the hate that he gets and got when he moved to Miami where he was just trying to find his best situation to win. I thought it wasn't warranted. I do think Framber Valdez is crushed a little more in Houston than he should be. So you know what, when I factor in the fact that I can be spiteful and root against narratives that I think are bad,
Starting point is 00:24:39 then maybe I will root for Framber pretty hard. I will take the complete opposite. Yeah, that's fine. I think Framber's not nearly as bad as many Houston. Houston fans like want to kick him off the team. He's the worst, blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, if you look at the numbers, he's been one of the best pitchers in baseball over the last five, six years.
Starting point is 00:25:03 the other teams that are courting him back to what you're saying. And a lot of the fanbanks acts like he's horrible and he's got an ERA of six. Yeah. He's not horrible. He's, he is, when he is really good, it is a joy to watch. When he implodes, it's like you can't get him to a therapist fast enough. Yeah, when he hits his catcher in the chest, I mean, that's pretty bad. And when he gets mad because his outfield is not playing properly, according to him.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Yes. and then he's not backing up home plate, literally his next start. See, that's to me, Ross, and I'm going to be really honest with you. That's what I remember from him. I'm saying, I get it. I'm not saying I don't get the hate. I think there's just a little too much. I think people act like he's a really bad pitcher or something, and he's not.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Back on the phones plus sports RV court coming up in the next half hour. I got a funny message from a listener. I will keep his name out of this, Ross. It says, I always laugh when people say things. are like crack because I've smoked crack and I mean nothing and I mean nothing is like crack I guess he's got a point there
Starting point is 00:26:10 is Bobby Browns listen to the show I didn't even really I would have been not 100% sure he was alive is he I believe he's alive sure why not all right those of you on hold standby
Starting point is 00:26:31 We have sports RV court. This is kind of a little offshoot of what you did commissioner's court, but I feel like I always ask you for ruling, so it just makes better sense of a little production value behind it. Ross, I've got two things for you today. By the way, bailiff, introduce yourself. You're in Jonathan to bailiff. Welcome to court.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Do you remember when Judge Wapner had his trusty bailiff, his name was Rusty? No, I don't remember that. Okay, it's Wapner. All right, two things. Here we go, Commissioner. or Judge Ross. Now, your ruling is the final one,
Starting point is 00:27:05 but people can certainly argue your debate if you'd like to on this. Okay, great. I'm the boss, Alpahsauce. The NBA fined the Cleveland Cavaliers $100,000 yesterday for violating the league's per player participation policy
Starting point is 00:27:21 when they held out Donovan Mitchell and Evan Mobley out of the team's game against the heat on November the 12th. They said reason for that. Rest. Should the NBA judge Ross be fining teams a hundred thousand dollars when a they will gladly pay that and number two if they're playing four games in five nights and the teams want to rest because
Starting point is 00:27:46 they feel like at the end of the day they'd be better for later in the season can you blame judge sports ravee how do you feel about the NBA finding teams for rest of the players this is uh this is a difficult one yes that's why i brought it to you You're catching me off guard I got to do a lot of deep research I got to go into recess Alright let's talk this out loud So I understand both sides
Starting point is 00:28:11 The Cavaliers want their team to be successful Long term They want their players fresher for the playoffs Rather than having them play some What was it a Monday night game against whoever Who was it against you said The Heat? Yeah Monday night game against the heat
Starting point is 00:28:26 Is not as important As being fresh and ready to go on the playoffs else, but the NBA... By the way, the Cavaliers won by 14. Just want to give you the little heads-up. Oh, that actually is an interesting point. And, I mean, but you have Amazon wanting star players,
Starting point is 00:28:43 Peacock, ESPN, NBC. Yes. I got a side with the league on this. You're trying to grow the game. Your product is all about putting the star players out there. So I understand where the Cavaliers are going to do this. And if you do want to do this, come at a cost. And if you're willing to pay that cost, that's okay. But we have to put down our
Starting point is 00:29:06 fines. We have to grow our product. We need our star players on the floor, not only for the fans who are in the building, but to showcase what this league is capable of talent-wise. I side with the NBA. Since you side with the NBA, let me ask you this. Should they add to the penalty? Because $100,000 the Cavaliers is in my mind nothing, correct? How about escalating? The first one is this amount, then it escalates from there. All right. So go $250 for round two, $500.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Keep going up and up and up and up and up. Wow. Then you're just going to have injuries get made up. So I don't know. This is a tough spot. Why couldn't they just tell Mobley that he had a, he had. Yeah, why didn't they say ankle soreness? I mean, doesn't every NBA player have some ankle soreness?
Starting point is 00:29:56 I'm on the voice of the team and I've got ankleed soreness. I know you do. all right so you side with the NBA on this yes i'm normally for the people but i'm with the evil corporation this time a hundred thousand dollars is just jump change though isn't it yeah like i said you can escalate it from there all right you ready for case number two by the yes i'm very happy so far with this uh do you know who cam scataboo is of course i do we we created a verb called scatabooing he has had a ridiculous successful season with the New York Giants, and it got derailed Rossi, or excuse me, Judge
Starting point is 00:30:36 RV, Sports RV, because he has suffered a gruesome ankle injury and he's done for the season. Yes. Well, guess where he was on Monday night? He was at a W.W.E thing, correct? That he was. He was at Madison Square Garden. And, you know, when there are various sports athletes or celebrities, they at WWE tend to put the camera on him and say, hey, look who's here. all these cool people are here.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Well, a wrestler, Dominic Mysterio, got into a shoving match with Scataboo. And some buddies that were with him, too. And Giants fans are pissed off that Cam Scadaboo is standing up, pushing with Mysterio and his other wrestlers, saying, wait a minute, you're supposed to be done for the season.
Starting point is 00:31:29 you should not be trying to get involved in a W.W.E. bit by pushing and shoving with professional wrestlers. My question to you, Judge Sports RV, is it playful theatrics? And even if it is, Judge Sports RV, should somebody who is in a season-ending injury potentially hurt himself more if said theatrics got perhaps awry where somebody pushed somebody down on the ground and further this hurt on already season-ending injury to an ankle. Judge R.V., your thoughts, please.
Starting point is 00:32:05 This is a very, very simple one for me. This one is, there is no gray area. Giants fans, shut your bum ass up. Cam Scatibu is his own person. You are not his doctor. You have not looked at his charts. You don't know what kind of surgery he had
Starting point is 00:32:23 or where he is in his recovery. And maybe this was ill-advised, Maybe it wasn't. I don't know, but he is a grown-ass man. He is an adult. He can make his own choices if it is a mistake that is also his right to make those mistakes. His body, his choice. You are not the owner of Camp Scadaboo. He does not owe you Jack Squat. If he wants to go out there and have a little fun, I imagine he's a big WWE fan. It's probably been a dream of his to be involved in something like this. Let him live his life. gets hurt, whatever. You can criticize him and you can say he should have done it, but let him do what he wants. He's an adult. I mean, it's ridiculous. I honestly, I want to say I can't believe this is a story, but I can. I can believe it's a story because for whatever reason, fans of leagues and teams feel like they should be able to exercise some sort of control over the players. But it's ridiculous. Let him do what he wants. I imagine he got some sort of medical clearance
Starting point is 00:33:25 before he was going to get involved in this, right? And that's the reason why I... I'm the Doug Llewell, and I'm not the host of the judge. I'm just the guy... I'm just saying as a listener of the sports RV court here, I agree with you. I don't think Cam Skada would put himself in a situation if the WWU said, hey, come do this.
Starting point is 00:33:45 They would put you in a further harm's way. I'm sure they rehearsed this. It looks like he's in a walking boot, which probably is holding everything together. I mean, whatever. Yeah. And I watched it a couple of times To see how severe it was
Starting point is 00:33:58 Just a couple of grown-ass men pushing each other But you know it's a bit too Yeah I was watching the video as you were explaining Because I kind of saw the story But I didn't want This is nothing This is a big nothing burger Okay
Starting point is 00:34:08 Well that's why you threw it out of court Really quick didn't you? Thank you Matt, yes And that is SportsRB Court Excellent work by you This is outstanding And the best part of this
Starting point is 00:34:21 I didn't give you a chance I think about this I didn't even tell you what these were ahead of time. It's real and raw. It is real and raw. All right. That's it for our sports army court.
Starting point is 00:34:34 We're going to go back on the phones when we come back, and then we've got shut your bum ass up today at 1130. We'll go to Buffalo at 1 o'clock this afternoon and get the thoughts on the bills. Ross, what is today's edition, I believe or not, at 150? Any idea? Hell if I know. Where are you Cleveland?
Starting point is 00:34:48 I'm in Cleveland, Ohio. I'm going to figure something, huh? You're at the Action Jack Casino? What is it called? Just Jack. Jack. Jack? Like Queen and King?
Starting point is 00:34:59 That's a dumb casino name. It's very sketchy, too. It's the second sketchiest casino I go to. It can't be that sketchy. Oh, it is. No, it's not, because you win. I know Five Diamond Man ain't going if it's that sketchy. Let me tell you, I'll go to the sketchiest casinos.
Starting point is 00:35:15 The two sketchiest casinos in a league are in Philadelphia and in Cleveland. That's what I'm saying. It ain't that sketchy. You wouldn't be there. I mean, I didn't have to go outside. that was nice you know me indoors thomas 713 212 5 790 713 212 5 790 it is 10 46 the matt thomas show with ross here on sports talk 790 1051 matt thomas show at ross if you're a member of the jake mire's fan club we are calling an emergency meeting at 11 o'clock where the president
Starting point is 00:35:50 will be speaking oh really It's not often we ask you to speak during the offseason because, you know, you need some downtime, but, good gracious. By the way, if you are CBS, are you regretting not taking the SEC games and just giving SEC a blank check? Probably. What's the big game this weekend? The top three games last weekend on television for college football. OU-U-Bama, 10.5 million people watched it. Texas, Georgia, 10.4 million people watched it.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Those were both ABC. The number three game was South Carolina A&M, which is 11 o'clock. You know, usually the 11 o'clock games are like the dog games. 4.3 million people watch that. I mean, it was supposed to be a dog game, and then it wasn't. Yeah. The number one CBS game, it was Penn State, Michigan State. Both teams entered the game with two wins or three.
Starting point is 00:36:49 2.48 million people watch that. You know how we always talk about it's the SEC and the Big Ten everybody else? Rossi, it's the SEC and everybody else now. I mean, I know that the number one team in the college football poll is Ohio State and they've been the undefeated and they're the defending national champions,
Starting point is 00:37:06 but they are top-heavy, but pound for pound through and through, it's the SEC, and it's not close. And Greg Sanky knows that too with all these talks about these new these new deals and these new playoffs and all that type of stuff. Right. It seemed like the Big Ten's like,
Starting point is 00:37:26 yeah, hey, we are really dominating SEC. And Greg Sanky's like, we? What's this we business? Look at these ratings, pal. Yeah, and like, hey, let's go to a 16-team format. SEC's like, no, we didn't think of this. Goodbye. And then number two, we'll get back with you when we have our list ready to go.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Actually, they were thinking about, what are they thinking, a 24 team? Is that what they were thinking? Yeah, it was 24 we're talking about earlier this week. Yes. Whoa, woof, woof, woof. By the way, Nicole Arbach, who writes for NBC Sports, the college football runner, she's been an ESPN. She believes now that the University of Texas cannot get into the college football playoff
Starting point is 00:38:07 because the committee has them at number 17 this week. And that even if they were to beat Arkansas and beat A&M, they could not get to the number 10 spot, which is usually going to be the last at-large spot. in the college football tournament. Okay. Just her opinion. It doesn't mean it's gospel, but that she thinks that the loss to Georgia,
Starting point is 00:38:28 which to me it wasn't about playing Georgia, it was the fact that your squad lost so bad is the reason why they took such a tumble, right? Yeah, I think Scott, I mean, the defense didn't make enough stops at the end and the onside kick, and it goes 14 to 10, and then Georgia scored,
Starting point is 00:38:43 and then scored again off the onside kick, and then it was just basically over. By the way, congratulations to my huge. Houston Cougars are at number 23 in the committee's top 12. Oh, wow. Not bad for a team that was predicted to finish 13th in a big 12. Yeah, they're doing great. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:39:00 U.H.TCU, baby. 3 o'clock, TDCU Stadium. Be there. Even you loser coug fan.com is going to be there too. Get away for computers for a couple hours. Come outside and play. Cougar fans don't bite. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Should be a big crowd, I'm sure. It needs to be a big crowd. Top number 23 in the country. Let's go. We're going to be taking on Texas and the Texas Bowl later this year, I'm thinking. Okay. If you want that asswhip and come get it.
Starting point is 00:39:27 I want it for smack talk purposes. Hello, Ray. Hey, what's going on, guys? Hi. In all seriousness about the game tomorrow night. You know, when I opened my hard rock bed, the first thing I went to is over 0.5 interceptions for Josh.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I think he's going to try to force things. You know, I'm going to try to get that pick at least. I think they're going to beat us due for a Texan Robb. And Atlanta just announced that Pinnock is out for the year, and they have a pretty decent backup.
Starting point is 00:40:01 You know, if we had that guy as a backup, I wouldn't be worried about tomorrow, but we have a horrible backup quarterback. He's one out of 20. He's 6 and 20. He's a horrible backup quarterback. And we wish we had
Starting point is 00:40:17 someone better to step in. If C.T. is hurt and I don't want CJ to start missing three or four games a year due to injury he lost games last year and this year and he's going to want a lot of money I thought the kid was going to get 65 or 70 a year but the plate went down and he's missing games so the Texas can hype us all they want I think these next games we may go o and three if the playoff picture is over trying to hype us up that you know I played football I'm not dumb the Texans aren't beating the chiefs they're not beating the bills you know they're not beating the Colts they're not going to beat these football teams and I think the Colts are going to stomp the Chiefs this week just to show the Texans
Starting point is 00:41:03 they're not ready for the Colts and and when CJ does come back it's going to be garbage time you know any touchdown you're just garbage it's over the play I'm looking for them to and to come back in August, hopefully with a healthy team, Nixon is leaving. You know, Cardi B had our good wide receiver get out of here. You know, it's horrible. It is very fresh. What's going on, and the hype around this team needs to stop because this is bad. I don't care about a number one defense.
Starting point is 00:41:34 This is going to be, you want to talk about a number one defense? This is going to be the first team in NFL history to have the number one defense and don't even make the playoffs. So stop all the number one detour because you can at least make the playoffs as a number one defense. And they're going to make NFL history this year. Watch what I tell you. And DiMico, you know, he's not on the hot seat, but I really feel like some things need to change. They need to change. No playoffs this year for the Texas. It's done. Jonathan Taylor and the two games make it five TDs and two games against the Texans. Those guys are serious in the United States. Who is?
Starting point is 00:42:13 hyping up the Texans. Cardi B is and Mark Van derby? No, I'm talking about how the city, you know, how the team keeps posting things on YouTube. Come on everybody. What are they supposed to do? They won three in the last four. Oh, the team is hyping them up on YouTube? What do you want them to say?
Starting point is 00:42:29 We suck. They're five and five with their star quarterback has been hurt the last two games. They won both of them. I like that Mike Singletary interview when he called that guy out. I like regular talk. Mike Singletary. Mike's What?
Starting point is 00:42:44 Like 10 years ago? Yeah 15 at this point A coach I like Okay, he got fired He was terrible He was a terrible coach Terrible coach in two different places
Starting point is 00:42:55 I just like the interview I don't care about it You don't care about You don't care about whether he can coach it Yeah Is Cardi B the responsibility I didn't realize Cardi B had such a negative impact on the team?
Starting point is 00:43:09 I didn't know she was Stefan Diggs's agent And by the way, Houston Houston Texans.com at Houston Texans and YouTube and TikTok. Do not put positive things about it your team out. They have the number one defense. The defense is really good. They're five and
Starting point is 00:43:24 five all things considered. This could have been turned into a disaster season. And it did not. Stop putting out positive things. Just because your team doesn't mean people want to see the positive things. They want to see the negative. What the hell was that?
Starting point is 00:43:40 They want to see missed extra points. They want to see off sides. They want to see holding penalties. That's what TikTok wants to see. Ray. And Toro, shove it up your ass, Toro. We don't want to see anything about you, Toro. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:43:54 We're done with you, Toro. I want no more photos of Hannah putting her H's up. Oh, that's just the boot-looking media. Sorry, that's not the Houston Texans. Come on, Houston Texans. Be better. Put the stuff out there that people really want to see. Incomplete passes.
Starting point is 00:44:17 You know what they ought to do, Rossi? They had to put up all the first and goals of the nine-yard-line running plays. Keep it reels with the Houston Texans. First and goal to three, half-yard gain. Second and goal to two, half-yard gain. Third and goal. And then D'Amico goes for it, or does that same runoff left guard. Why don't you show Nick Cayley, more Nick Cayley on your Houston Texans website?
Starting point is 00:44:42 That's what we people want to see. They don't want to see nice things. Goodness gracious. That's crazy. You know what, Houston, Texas? You keep doing your thing. Don't let old Ray, old grumpy Ray get in your way. That's hysterical.
Starting point is 00:44:58 713-212-5-7-0. This is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. Before we get to our meeting of the J. Myers fan club, Ross, I just sent a text to the Houston Rockets social team. We need more Best of Golden State highlights, a playoff series. And I've been asking for a nice compilation of Christian Wood moments as a rocket. Wait a minute. Christian Wood had some moments now, Maddie.
Starting point is 00:45:28 I'll be hating on Christian Wood. I think he's in China now or something. I just sent the Astros of Media thing. I said, can we get some more Christian Walker swings? can we get some lance mccullors uh walks and anything i mean we got this down pat if if if our buddy ray and miami wants the reels we'll give it reels to you oh my gosh listed on christian woods accomplishments and career highlights NBA cup champion he did that for whom he was on that he was on that lakers team oh okay that won the first one
Starting point is 00:46:11 gang you all know this teams are going to put the good stuff out there they're supposed to that's that's their marketing that was ridiculous i wish we had more time but we kind of had to get to the top of the hour i know but i mean like what is the most what's the least oh it'd be like burghing bragging about their fries their fries suck they're terrible hold on those fries is good oh no they're no shut up oh that's terrible oh come on now their fries blow they've changed them like three times. I haven't had the latest version I don't think. Every single one of them go from bad to worse. Hey, come to Burger
Starting point is 00:46:44 King. Eat our fries. No, they're going to talk about the damn whopper and those chicken fries which aren't half bad and the French toastics are good. They're going to promote those things. And the sandwiches. McDonald's puts out the McRib, the Big Mac and the quarter-pounder. Life is good. McRib is nasty. Let me check the latest on
Starting point is 00:47:02 your poll. No, don't look. Don't look. We're down with that. Yeah, you've lost. You don't put things on your social medias that don't work it'd be like the team is hyping up the social media is hyping up the team for some reason I mean come on like hey
Starting point is 00:47:18 you go to Waterburger they don't look at our drive-through times they don't do that I put that out there bad that'd be actually funny if you took if you took all your companies you had to put the negative things about it hmm
Starting point is 00:47:35 no that'd be funny how about this sports talk 7-90 Look at Adam Clanton's rational thoughts about referees. We don't put that out there. See, I knew you were going to go here, and I'm just staying away. I'm stepping away from the microphone. No, you can't. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:47:50 You're stuck. Bye. I may be a thousand miles away from you, but no, you're not going away from anywhere. By the way, you see Victor Wemba's hurt again. Yeah, he's got a calf injury, right? Yeah. And calf injuries happen. Attendance is part of the grade.
Starting point is 00:48:04 It is. That's true. He's great, but he's got to be healthy. So I don't care he's, I mean, they won last time. They beat the Grizzlies, which, by the way, when did NBC think the Grizzly Spurs would be worthy of putting on national TV on a Tuesday night? Wasn't there like some Division III game that had been better off? The Grizzly Spurs is actually not that.
Starting point is 00:48:25 John Morant and Wimby, in theory? In theory, and neither one of them played, so it was just in theory. It gets us fine and some people. Uh-oh. Sports RV courts is, you. Yes, you must find. That's funny. Nobody wanted to see Luke Cornet
Starting point is 00:48:43 versus Zach Edie. By the way, Zach Edie, ooh, that's a tough watch. Nice guy, but, oh, God, he just, around the basket, he's, mm-mm. Oh, my God. ESPN has changed around their box scores, and I still haven't adjusted.
Starting point is 00:48:56 They put, they used to put minutes, they've switched around where they put minutes and points and field goals, and now they switched it back. Oh, what the heck? People must have been complaining. Yeah. Not me.
Starting point is 00:49:07 It's throwing me. me off all right uh it is the matt thomas show at ross we i'm here in um cleveland rockets taking on the hated cavaliers today we'll have the broadcast for you beginning six o'clock pregame at five of the launch pad uh rossie before we get going on other things we got shut your bum ass up at the bottom of the hour we have assembled the jake myers fan club okay feels like to me that number if is a very fluctuating group of people like once you join a country club you're kind of pot committed if you join a civic club if you join a student If you're a part of an alumni association, you don't get to dip in and dip out, except for the old Jake Myers fan club.
Starting point is 00:49:44 We let you go in and out as much as you want. No, that's not true. We take monthly dues. You're in for the month. Okay, so please talk to your audience, the congregation, if you will, because the rumors of Jake Myers going elsewhere are running rampant around these Twitter streets. Look, folks, it's been a long, arduous, hard battle being in the Jake Myers fan club. There's been some lean times, and there's been some good. times. And right now we're in the good times. And I understand we love Jake Myers and we want
Starting point is 00:50:12 him patrolling center field at Dyken Park for the Houston Astros for as long as possible. But at the end of the day, when you hear these trade rumors, take it as a compliment. Because that means all the great things that Jake Myers has accomplished and all his great hitting and sometimes striking out against position players, all of that doesn't matter. It's been about how great he's been playing and how good of a player he is at this point and the quality that he's shown that he's drawing interest from other clubs. So the fact that he is being dangled
Starting point is 00:50:43 as a trade chip means that he has many suitors. There could be a market for him that the Astros simply cannot refuse because they do have a glut in the outfield. So we take this as a compliment. We love Jake. We support Jake. And we'll see what happens and let the chips fall where they may.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Can I give you some advice, president? Sure. Start writing that farewell speech. That farewell toast. he gone maybe my thing my thinking about this is that
Starting point is 00:51:14 you're not going to and i look we are team jake myers we like him my thing i love him they're thinking that the best of jake meyers was last year even and now that you're talking about a guy that's got a couple of injury
Starting point is 00:51:29 uh stints to us i mean that maybe the value of his stock is as high as is right now the mission statement of the jake myers fan club when we started There were people that doubted he was even a major league player. I know. They were people that doubted he should even play ahead of Chas McCormick. The fan club wanted to show that he was an everyday player. He was good in the field.
Starting point is 00:51:52 He was good enough at the plate. And he could do everything it took to be an everyday center fielder in the major leagues. And he's proven that. So all the doubters, you can suck it. Jake Myers, wherever you end up. we love you, and we were right. The years often prove me right, Matt. They did it again in this case.
Starting point is 00:52:15 For your own mental health, I think we need him to go to our National League team. I can't imagine seeing him six games a year. Or if he stays in America League. No, they wouldn't trade him in America League. Well, then I'm not going to watch. I don't watch National League baseball. That's what I'm saying. It would be better off for you if he's a National League guy.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Then I want you, you can kind of celebrate him, bring him to town, have his video tribute. You know what I mean? A video tribute of his swinging out of his shoes and his helmet falling off? By the way, you missed the Cam Whitmore video tribute last week while you were gone. Are you serious? No, I'm not. Okay, I was going to say, I got you. I was like, no way.
Starting point is 00:52:52 How's he doing, by the way? Everybody said he's going to be a future All-Star, not everybody. But you know there was a contingent effect. How can you trade away a future All-Star like Cam Whitmore? What are the Rock is doing? See if this sounds familiar. Doesn't work well with teammates. Shoots a bunch and doesn't play a look at a defense.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Oh, really? I locked that down on gut feelings. I might even put my name on that. I think you did put your name on that. Cam Whitmore, no. Cam was offended. The year's proving me right again. Maybe you should listen to all sports RV every now and then.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Yeah, we should. 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5. 5790 cougar chris says disagrees with ross about something i'm curious about these things okay uh gary and spring is going to evaluate race call
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Starting point is 00:54:05 713-212-1-2-5-7-90 it is the Matt Thomas show with Ross we got shut your bum-ass up and ain't anybody got time for that coming up at about 10 minutes from now the news at noon believe it or not today at 150 we'll go to Buffalo at 1 o'clock and talk all things Buffalo Bills football Cougar Chris with us at 1120 double C what's a good word today friend good afternoon my friend friend. I have some disagreements with Ross, but I want to ask you a couple questions first. I think
Starting point is 00:54:41 you're going to be in Oakland next week. Are you going to be able to pop by Vegas for one of the Cougar games next week? I am not. Monday we play Phoenix, and then Wednesday we play Golden State, and then we're coming home for Thanksgiving. Cool. Are you
Starting point is 00:54:57 going to be able to broadcast one of the games this year with Reed or anything? No. Unfortunately, the rocket schedule, plus the fact that All the new TV networks that are doing the University of Houston games will not allow me to do any game. There's only five ESPN regionals allowed, not allowed, but only five available. And I've got Rockets games for all five of those games, unfortunately. That's a shame.
Starting point is 00:55:20 We love seeing you over there. I love doing those games. I love doing the Cougars games. Unfortunately, the Rockets, my schedule just doesn't dictate it. But thank you for asking. I understand. So, Ross, on your court judgment, the first. one about the NBA situation. In that one particular situation, I have to side with the
Starting point is 00:55:44 Cavaliers because the NBA should not be scheduling somebody four games in five days. That's just too hard on the bodies, especially when they're traveling in between those games. So in that one situation, I don't think the Cavaliers should have been fine. and it goes along with my next thing on the other one Cam Scatadaboo goes along with your reasoning for the NBA wanting to see the big guys out there I agree with both of y'all on the Cam Scataboo thing however you know from the fans standpoint
Starting point is 00:56:17 they've got to pay hundreds of dollars to go to a game they're paying hundreds of dollars for wearing these guys jerseys and stuff and if there's any sign that maybe he's not doing what he should be, or maybe he could have been playing or something like that. Kind of back to like Carlos Correy and his massaging, I can see where the fans
Starting point is 00:56:38 get upset. But in the end, I agree with both of what should have happened, but what let him live, but I understand why the fans would get upset in that situation. Yeah, I mean, that doesn't sound like we're disagreeing too much.
Starting point is 00:56:54 The Cavaliers certainly are within their right to do that. I'd say that the NBA is within their right to find them. So they can do it. I'm not saying they're crazy. I'm saying it's smart. And even I said, again, like, it's, it's kind of a 50-50 or 51-49 type of deal for me. I understand where the cavaliers are coming from. They're worried about this long season and they're worried about winning a championship. They're not worried about Tuesday night against whatever team it was that they were playing, that they actually won that game anyways. So I think the NBA does have to, they owe it to all this money and revenue that they're getting from all these teams, excuse me, these networks. works to try and figure out a way to give them the best players on the floor to maximize their ratings and continue to foster those relationships and make them good relationships. So I understand both sides of that. And then it sounds like we're on the same side on Cam Scataboo.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Yeah, just to clarify on the NBA thing, I agree with you except in that one situation. They should not be scheduled in four games in five days. That's just too tough. And to show consistency, I don't like the conference. tournaments in college because these kids have been playing once or twice a week and all of a sudden you're asking to play three or four days in a row and I just think it's irresponsible so but that's my feeling so appreciate you both go too thank you thanks Chris appreciate it well those conference sermons don't mean as much they used to except for like the schools that are going there to try to get
Starting point is 00:58:20 the one auto bid yeah yeah um Ross again going back to our cart we were talking about the fact earlier for those are just joining us the Cleveland Cavaliers yesterday were fined by the NBA $100,000 for sitting Evan Mobley and Donovan Mitchell. I mean, two of their bigger stars for a game against Miami in which the Cavaliers went to Miami and won that game. And they're saying
Starting point is 00:58:41 that because the Cavaliers were honest, honesty doesn't always make the... Not the best policy? Truth doesn't always set you free. That's what I say, Ross. Why? You know what I always say? The truth will cost you
Starting point is 00:58:57 100K. The truth it doesn't matter to the Cleveland Cavaliers because they'll pay the $100K and they got to win and they got to let rest two of their star players. It's just the truth. They just, I don't, if I pulled a cavalier ownership, front office, coach aside, they probably like, yeah, it was worth it.
Starting point is 00:59:17 The season is so long as it is. I mean, can they extend it a couple of weeks? Nope. They've already extended it before, right? Well, here's the thing. They're giving you have about a 10, day break coming up in a couple of weeks. Now, you don't necessarily get 10 days off, but they have the in-season tournament, and
Starting point is 00:59:36 then you play, if you don't go to the end-season tournament, like in Las Vegas, you have two games you have to play in those 10 days, but you're still get an extended break. You're going to get some time off during this. And they've extended the All-Star breaks longer than it used to be, right? It's been this way for about a decade now. I think it'll leave it a little bit longer. See, my thought is shorten this in-season tournament break, shorten this All-Star break, and give guys an extra day or two here and there.
Starting point is 01:00:00 The Rockets, frankly, have played some of the fewest games in the NBA this season, and it's helped them because think about this, Ross, we're down to about an eight-man rotation because of Tari-Eason being hurt. Friend Van Vleet is out. It helps. Stephen Adams hasn't had to admit, well, he's missed one game, but he doesn't play a lot of three games and four nights. He doesn't play typically back-to-back.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Now, maybe things will change, but I don't know. Kevin Durant doesn't play a lot of back-to-backer. We have not had a back-to-back yet this season. In fact, we haven't played since Sunday, and then the first back-to-back for the Rockets this season will not take place until after Thanksgiving when the Rockets play the Jazz and Utah in back-to-back game. But that's in the same city.
Starting point is 01:00:40 And that's kind of a nice little way to do so. So I don't know what the right answer is. I never have the right answer on this. Because the schedule is squeezed, TVs have a lot to do with it. But to your point, the TVs want the stars. If that Cleveland, was that Cleveland, I wonder if that Cleveland Miami game was National TV. I don't think it was.
Starting point is 01:01:01 I don't think it was. There was, uh, when was it? It was on the 12th, I want to say. No, I don't think so. Which would have been a Wednesday night. That would have been an ESPN night. I don't know who did the game. If there was a, if there was a Rockets, I mean, if who was playing, there was, but I put it this way.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Do you, can you really say that? Can you go to David, can you go to, can Adam Silvergoat and say, hey, I'll let you miss these games but I'll be damned if you're going to miss a peacock game or a Amazon Prime game because you're resting guys Yeah, I don't know Can you mean, does that have to be collectively bargained Or does that have to I don't, that's a great question
Starting point is 01:01:43 But again, when in doubt, what do you do, Rossi? You lie Lying will set you free when it comes to this This is don't people don't take Matt's advice My God, that's horrible I apologize When in doubt you lie You don't read your self-health book
Starting point is 01:02:02 I look forward to talking to Gary in spring next On the time I showed Ross Oh here we go I do actually Actually Actually Gary's call wasn't bad yesterday It wasn't bad at all All right let's get some shut your ball masses up
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Starting point is 01:03:14 and what they kind of, their favorite cookie is, or they wanted to talk to you about their playing days back in the 1950s, tell them anybody got time for that. Ain't nobody got time for that? Rossi, we save our travel stories sometimes for this segment of the week. Did you have a free and clear week going to a variety of Southern California airports? I mean, I mentioned how I was trying to carry on a tent. Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:42 And they got up. Were you pitching that tent or no? No, I was not pitching the tent, Matthew. All right. But I had gotten a good deal at the RIEI resupply store. So it was a tent. She couldn't pass up the deal. so I bought the tent.
Starting point is 01:03:57 They wouldn't let me carry it on because I had, quote, tent spikes in the tent bag. First of all, they were wrapped up in the tent. It would take me like 15 minutes to get them out in the middle of an airplane or in the middle of a flight. Second of all, their tent stakes. I am not going to go get out my bag of steaks and go take over the whole cockpit with tent stakes. It was impossible, literally impossible. I mean TSA rules or TSA rules But ain't nobody got time for that
Starting point is 01:04:27 Ain't nobody got time for that Note to self Put your tent Put your tent stakes in your check-in bag Yeah said no one else except you That's not true People travel with tents all the time I've traveled for 50 years of my life
Starting point is 01:04:45 I've never come with a pitch of 10 That's because you don't you don't camp Well I would pack it up though I wouldn't be trying to get the extra You know what you want? You're a flight delay guy. What do you mean flight delay? You want to jam that stuff in the compartment and we're going to be leaving away because it.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I try to fit in the little box. You know they have that little thing. Let's see if it'll fit on the carry on. It fit in there. Yeah. So shut your bum ass up. But you wanted to hurt people with their stakes. So shut your bum ass up.
Starting point is 01:05:12 We wanted to hurt people. Shut your bum ass up. Yeah, I'm hijacking the plane with tent stakes. I mean, let's be real here, folks. Staying with the airlines. Darkbreast. You put in a commercial during the morning news today here in Cleveland. Now we're doing assigned seats, and you can get extra legroom.
Starting point is 01:05:31 No, no, no. You're doing this because you're looking to make a couple extra bucks. Shut your bum ass up, Dark Breast Airlines. Shut your bum ass up, man. What you're bragging about ain't worth bragging about. People that are dark breast consumers want two things. They want their free bags, and they want to pay for extra legroom. Period.
Starting point is 01:05:51 terrible it is terrible just I mean false braggadocious stuff it just drives me up the wall you're a bragging for all the wrong reasons yeah
Starting point is 01:06:04 I just I don't get it John there what's the matter with you I just I was scrolling through the four you just a while we're on break and I guess this is on first take and Paul Feinbond was on there
Starting point is 01:06:19 I'm gonna say his name they asked him and we're telling him because he's complaining about if Notre Dame should be above Alabama you know et cetera et cetera SEC talk and Shay Cornette said there's also a bias with the Southeastan conference let's be clear
Starting point is 01:06:34 can you agree with that he goes I'm not sure about that man ain't nobody got time for these SEC people Gordy I know you can hear me too why do y'all are so snobby about you guys are the favorite you guys get every team in you guys want and it's never enough never enough.
Starting point is 01:06:51 You guys deny to 99 and you complain, complain, it's like, I don't know. I just don't get that. I just, I don't know. So you're telling me that SEC media are snobs? It's just like you want to give them a good rep, all this respect and how good their programs are, and then they come out and act like they're not the favor. They're not the kings of the NCAA. I just don't get that.
Starting point is 01:07:15 And nobody got time for that. Anybody got time for that. So know that you run the world. I just told you the last half hour the ratings for the top three games in college football were dominated by SEC schools. I don't know. It's just, it's too, they should be bragging.
Starting point is 01:07:32 They should be A-holes. They are the most powerful conference in sports, period. But acting like they're not the favor is crazy to me. I don't know. That's because Paul Feinbaum's trying to be, he's trying to be impartial, seriously. I mean, you ever listen to that Paul Feinbaum? bomb show there, Rossi? Not for one second
Starting point is 01:07:51 of my life. It's about a bunch of people with a strange with a bunch of bad calls in a row, one after the other. I mean, who wouldn't even do the show like that? I just don't get it. I'm not saying it's good or bad. I just, I don't get it. I've never gotten into it. I don't even know where to watch it. It's on I think the SEC Network.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Which will be your home for Texas football for the foreseeable future? Did you say, what was the highest rated games? Texas and Georgia? They got blown out 35 to 10 and it was still one the highest rate of games? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Eyeballs, Maddie. I know. That's these Friday night on FS2 or whatever you guys have been on there. Hey, we're FS1 and regular Fox. Hey, we're on regular Fox this week. Oh, really? A 4 a.m. or what? No, 3 o'clock in the afternoon.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Oh, really? Yeah. Help those losers at kookfans.com get off the computers and go to the stadium and get in time for the 3 o'clock game. I feel like there's 25,000 at the game. I feel like more people than that were taking shots at me last few weeks. No. It's funny how that.
Starting point is 01:08:49 that works. Sorry, fan base. Let me tell you, if you're an awesome Cougar, I love you. Cougar, they're called the show earlier today. He is the best. They are real good, actual good Cougar fans. Yes, there are. Just the Nimrods at Cookefans.com are not those. Hi, that was Matt Thomas. Matt Thomas said that. I didn't swear. That me, Ross.
Starting point is 01:09:12 I didn't start it. That's Matt Thomas. Class of 98. Should have been class of 95, but I took my time because I loved you of H so much. Three victory laps. Let's go, baby. Oh. Love it. Yeah. Because you know what, I ain't afraid of our own.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Because, you know what, I try to be nice at KookFans.com, but screw those losers. Ross made a mistake. He tried to atone for it. Y'all didn't accept it. Screw you. Double screw you. Shut your bum ass up, KookFans.com. Go to out.
Starting point is 01:09:40 That's crazy. I'm not. I'm not. I'm muted. I muted hundreds of people. I'm over it. Let it go, Matt. All right, I'll let it go.
Starting point is 01:09:50 It's the last time I'm going to bring up those losers. Don't breathe life into the past that way, Matt. Just think about the future. Yes. That's a lot of time we can wear a shirt on, right? Yes. All right, I got more. Go, please.
Starting point is 01:10:03 All right, so I made the move to, hmm, you know what I'm going to say it. I'm going to call these people out because I'm not happy with any of them. Fubo TV. There was a discount and I wanted to do it, but the app is too slow. It's just too much. I don't care for it. It's way behind the lag. I want to go back to Xfinity cable.
Starting point is 01:10:23 So I try to call them, because I have internet. I want to bundle. I want to see what kind of deals they have. And this has to be an AI person. They're saying that it's not AI, but it has to be. The inflections and all that. I'm on the phone for over 20 minutes. And this person, I'm saying, can I get NFL network?
Starting point is 01:10:44 And they're like, yes, you can get NHL network. And I'm like, no. NFL National Football League I'm screaming into the phone for 20 minutes and then they put me on hold and they come back
Starting point is 01:10:57 and they put me on home and come back it's a whole other can I talk to a real person who understands you know American things like what the NFL network is and NBA TV because of the things I need because of my job
Starting point is 01:11:10 this is so ridiculous with this lack of support Xfinity I'm calling you out by name your support sucks I don't know if it was an AI person or what, but it was ridiculous. Ain't nobody got time for that. Ain't nobody got time for that? It was a massive headache for like a half hour.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Just trying to get, I'm trying to give you my money. I'm trying to give you my money. And you don't want it. That's strong right there. It's ridiculous. Steve Kerr. He says he's very concerned that the NBA's increased pace combined with the condensed schedule is leading to increase in
Starting point is 01:11:49 soft tissue injuries all right then reduce the schedule to 70 games go deepy to your bench or shut your bum ass up you got one of the three options shut your bum ass up man I say go deeper to your bench
Starting point is 01:12:06 I say don't play Draymond green 41 minutes a game this is interesting because this is happening in all major sports. You know what? That's the thing. To all major sports, stop telling me that you play too many games or too many injuries.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Then stop taking the checks. NFL about to go to 18 games schedule. Shut your bum ass up. Shut your bum ass up, man. Now, selfishly, I'd like you to stay at 82 games. Just saying, that's just me. But I'm not complaining, am I? No.
Starting point is 01:12:42 A little bit. Not really. Oh, I had to take my private chat. to Cleveland last night And then I had to go to Five Diamond Hotel And I'm so tired this morning They walk in a little bit
Starting point is 01:12:57 A little bit I'm not complaining I'm in Cleveland Ohio I'm complaining about being in Cleveland I'd rather be in like a Phoenix next week Where I'll be I think the NBA should only play in cool cities You've done some complaining about the travel
Starting point is 01:13:08 Maddie come on now No I'm good I'm very happy All right We got another late addition to the Ain't anybody got time for this coming up in a minute, but I want to get to Gary and spring first. If you want to join in with your, shut your bum ass up, I think nobody got time for that.
Starting point is 01:13:22 7-13-212-5-7-90. Gary, you're on 7-90, and good morning to you. Hey, gentlemen, good morning. Can you hear me okay? Yes, sir. Okay, my phone's not working too good. Anyway, I was wanting to comment on that douchebag that called in earlier. What was his name that was dragging the Texans
Starting point is 01:13:41 through the dirt? He was not a douchebag. Ray, but Ray, a little bit of a take that we didn't agree with, but I would not characterize it as a doucheback. He was really putting it to my beloved Texans. Anyway, I first of all you an apology, Matt, because after listening to him, have you ever seen, I'm sure you've seen the movie The Wizard of Oz? I have, yes. Yeah, so compared to him, Matt, I owe you an apology for telling you how negative you were the other day. You were like the, what's the good witch called?
Starting point is 01:14:14 The Good Witch of the Well. you are like the good witch of the West positivity compared to him. The guy, he showed how ignorant he is. Does the guy not know that the Texans have won five out of the last seven games, that they have the best defense in all of football? And he said that they were going to lose for sure their next three games in a row. So he's just showing his own ignorance by just opening his piehole and talking anyway.
Starting point is 01:14:39 So all I have to say on that is to that, and I do call him a douchebag that he just needs to shut his bum ass up man because he don't know nothing and that's all I got so bum ass up man thank you very much all right man
Starting point is 01:14:55 you drop somebody you drop a D bag on somebody you better know them pretty well right Ray's a sweet kid we love Ray you can make assumptions in this world you're assuming I'm going to assume that Ray is on a D bag I'm assuming that I'm not saying that I'm not talking about Ray specifically
Starting point is 01:15:12 okay all right real quick before we get to the news at noon did you see the story out of michigan yesterday the university of michigan yesterday what happened so you know these conferences ross these college conferences are always looking to add money figuring out ways to make money so what they're doing is they're trying to sell equity in their conference what and they look yeah i know this is sounds and i'm trying to dumb this down as best i can okay what yeah taking a lump sum of money from a private equity firm and saying we'll give you a certain ownership and certain future revenues for a conference okay that is happening now it hasn't officially happened but it's going it that that's the that's the new thing is having these private
Starting point is 01:16:03 equities on these conferences well the university of michigan is not a and not a fan of this at this time Either the money's not good or they're like, why are we taking this money in advance when we're going to make this money on our own? Why do we need private equity to run our operation? So essentially they have said in the last 24 hours that unless they get all 18 teams in a big 10 to agree to this private equity thing and not force it down the conferences that are like the commissioner wants us very badly. That Michigan said when their current media deal is over with in 2036, which will be 10 years from now, They're going to go independent. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:16:50 I understand you're the apprehension about letting private equity run anything, okay? Trust me, we kind of know how private equity goes in this world, okay? I'm sorry, though, the University of Michigan does not carry as big of a national brand as I think the University of Michigan thinks it carries. it's tier one it's a tier one big brand i would say okay they've recent have a national championship and also i might be biased in this because in fourth grade i was a michigan fan because they were really good and they were on national tv a lot i had michigan gear from like i don't know like fourth grade to like i don't know like seventh grade or something
Starting point is 01:17:37 like that just because they were really good in that era that's when like drew hinson and tom brady was there in Brian Greasy they had some good teams and I became a Michigan fan let's even say that Michigan football had
Starting point is 01:17:50 enormous national cash it has some I'm not blind to it but basketball doesn't baseball doesn't it's Olympic sports do not it's women's sports do not basketball a little bit
Starting point is 01:18:05 oh please first of all nobody has national when they're good I mean Duke North Carolina can't Yeah, they're not there. But, I mean, you go with the, with, they can kind of resurrect the, the Fab Five, they were a big brand. So I'm saying they, they could, if they woke up and they were really good, I think they would have some cachet.
Starting point is 01:18:22 It's not there now. I think it's very cute that schools think they can go independent and think if there's a better world out there. This is to me as the University of Michigan president just pissed off about the thought of being private equity. There is no way, nohow. no chance Michigan will have a chance to succeed compete sure
Starting point is 01:18:46 it's Michigan but overall make better money better exposure than going on its own I just it's like basically
Starting point is 01:18:59 I'm going to take my ball and go somewhere else now some teams do that to go to different conferences but to go independent I don't think it's very smart at all I wonder, hmm, it would be, obviously, it would be about whatever offers they could entertain and who would be willing to offer them money for all their games,
Starting point is 01:19:21 la Notre Dame and NBC, of course. How happy is NBC with Notre Dame over the years? You wouldn't be able to cash in on the league TV contracts. You wouldn't be able to cash in on the league television contracts with NCAA, with all the NCAA sport. You'd be essentially negotiating your own television deals, everywhere. You wouldn't have the Big Ten network.
Starting point is 01:19:42 You wouldn't have CBS. You wouldn't have Fox. You wouldn't have... Now, granted, the SEC is dominant on Disney, and that's... But you're not going to be able to convince ABC and ESPN to bump their triple header of SEC football for your game against Ball State. It ain't happening. Yeah, but if...
Starting point is 01:20:03 What is their recourse? If you are part of a... The recourse is to... Is to bend over to the Big Ten and do whatever they say? The question is going to be, is it bending over or is it, hey, this is a negotiation, we need to think about do we really need to sell off part of our conference? Or do we need to ask for more money before we acquiesce and say, okay, maybe private equity isn't the worst thing in the world. So the Michigan, a chairman of the Board of Regents is saying that the Big Ten is trying to strong arm them. Yes. And I don't think Michigan wants to be strong-armed.
Starting point is 01:20:42 That's how I read the story. And I don't know if you were, you know, that's when I looked at it last night. It came across to me as Michigan wants to dictate how they operate their league. They don't want the Big Ten Conference telling them how, what deals they should and should. Since the Big Ten Conference Commissioner is threatened the University of Michigan with penalties if we do not approve this deal. the thing that makes me think about is maybe they maybe the big 10 thinks in 10 years these mega TV deals are going to go away yeah I don't know this is this is a big mess
Starting point is 01:21:17 it's a big mess but I do not believe going independent is the right answer for them I also don't I think just taking money up front from private investors is probably not I mean this is we're talking about college sports yeah that that sounds like to me the big 10 commissioners worried about the long-term future in receiving money from third-party investors i mean this is insane yeah we're talking about college sports yeah amateur athletics and guess what's going to be by the way by the way it's not going to be the big 10 conference anymore it's going to be the big 10 conference presented by rate rarm insurance you will not be able to say just the because that's what private equity
Starting point is 01:21:56 is going to do they're going to want to monetize it immediately yeah and they're going to want control. So I understand if Michigan is pushing back on this. Are they pushing back because they're worried about private equity? They're probably pushing back because the private equity dollars aren't good enough. That's the question that you and I do not. I would say probably more of the former. If everybody else
Starting point is 01:22:14 thinks the money is good enough, why wouldn't it be good enough for Michigan? Because it sounds like a lot of schools are like, my guess is Wisconsin's like, absolutely we'll take an ownership stake in there. 2.4 billion up front in a tiered distribution system in exchange for a 10% cut of the Big 10 media rights and sponsorships.
Starting point is 01:22:36 What the hell is going on out here? The hell is going on with college athletics. The hell is going on. I could have said it better myself. Let's get to the news at noon next. We're going to check it in Buffalo in one hour. We've got, believe it or not, at 150. It's a Matt Thomas show with Ross.
Starting point is 01:22:52 I'm here in Cleveland for Rockets and Cavaliers here on 790. This is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. It is 12.3 on Sports Talk 790. Madden Ross with you here, getting you ready for Texans and Bills tomorrow. Rockets and Cavaliers tonight. And right now, the news at noon. And with that, we go to the Michael Strayhan of Houston Sports News. It's Ross Vittoriel.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Yes, Matthew. Well, thank you. But Michael Shrayhan. He's done. Good morning, America. Sure, why not? Yes, as you mentioned here locally, we have the Rockets in action against the Cavaliers. We'll get to that momentarily. But the big news from yesterday, both C.J. Stroud and J.L. Petrie ruled out for the Houston Texans.
Starting point is 01:23:50 They are facing the Buffalo Bills tomorrow on Prime Video. They will have Davis Mills starting the game. Some folks think. That's a better thing than C.J. Stroud for the Houston Texans offense. Those people are idiots, but nonetheless, Davis Mills will be taking the start. And we're going to talk about those people again. Whoever they are, they need to come clean. They need to come correct and explain what their situation is and what their flawed logic was.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Line has ticked up a little bit from five and a half to now six for the Buffalo Bills with the news that C.J. Stroud will definitively not be making the start. Did you say double digits for the bills? I forget. Touchdown. Touchdown. Okay. So at least seven.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Well, we'll see what happens. The Buffalo Bills, according to, you know, one of your favorite NFL analyst, Matt. Ben Baldwin, deep in the analytics game, has them rated as the number one, according to composite rankings, pass protection. the number one pass protection team in the NFL, the Buffalo Bills. Okay. Now, the bills do not play well in Houston, Texas. You know why? Raucous crowd.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Duh. Huge energy. Loud ambiance, if you will. Sure, why not? And well, a really good defense. And that guy, Daniel Hunter, and that guy Will Anderson, pretty good too. Yeah, pretty good. So the Texans, according to those composite rankings,
Starting point is 01:25:24 20th in terms of past protection. Do you want to know where the Texans are in the pro football focus? Oh, it is so good to have you back. Offensive line rankings, man. By the way, do you pay for that? Because I could, I tried to find that and it was on it behind paywall. Oh, is it behind the paywall? Yeah, we both try to do it. Yeah, they're behind the paywall. Yes, I do
Starting point is 01:25:40 pay for pro football focus. I use a lot of their fantasy stuff. Can you want my fantasy drafts? You know, back to back to back champions. They got good fantasy stuff. Send me the password next time. So if you're gone out. You better, you better send me some cash. Because they keep jacking up the price on this thing This might be the last year I do it Because I like getting the player ratings
Starting point is 01:25:58 I like all the fantasy content and all that stuff But man I keep charging more and more It's piss me off Anyways Texans 26th Offensive line In the NFL
Starting point is 01:26:12 Last week they were 25 So they slipped back They hopped up to 24 a couple of weeks ago Then they've gone progressively worse A spot each week to 25th now To 26th in the NFL. So your gut feeling,
Starting point is 01:26:26 it was a rando, hey, let's go from God-awful to below average. Yes. Hit. Well, they're 26 now. I guess I said they'd get 25 at some point in the season. Yeah, as I'm saying, it's a win for you, sadly.
Starting point is 01:26:42 All right, elsewhere, man. How about LeBron James? Debuting against the Utah Jazz, a record 23rd year in the The NBA also extending a record. He was able to score in the end of the game. I'm sorry, driving lay up in the third quarter, extending his streak of double-digit scoring performances,
Starting point is 01:27:05 1,293 games of double-digit scoring, which is also every game in which he has played since January 6th of 2007. I wanted, do you think he intentionally chose Utah to do this, or it was just the right time to come back? Utah sucks. I don't know. That's certainly a lot. Probably he wanted a soft landing spot. Yep.
Starting point is 01:27:32 I would do the same thing, too. He was about a month and change from being 41 years old. He had 11 points, 12 assists, and three rebounds in 30 minutes. Does he play to lose 45 yes or no? No. I would agree with you. I don't think so. I think he's going to get an opportunity.
Starting point is 01:27:51 to own an NBA team and I think they're going to say as part of this you've got to step aside from play. Plus the injuries are starting to accrue. They just are. Well, mentioning injuries, Matt, and you mentioned this earlier when we were talking about injury issues, Steve Kerr talking to the Warriors medical
Starting point is 01:28:07 staff saying they believe that the wear and tear, the speed, the pace and the mileage is factoring into an influx of soft tissue injuries in the NBA. Yonis, I said to Kumpo with a groin injury.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Victor Wimbenyama with a left calf strain. Stefan Castle with a hip flexor strain. Other notable NBA players out with calf strings include Anthony Davis, John Morant, Drew Holiday, and others. You are the official judge of the show and the official physician of the show. You do a lot of different things. How are we going to fix the soft tissue stuff? That's a question for medical people.
Starting point is 01:28:47 We've been talking about this now for years. These players are pushing their bodies, 365 days a year. They're taking supplements. They're taking the science is refined to where you're maximizing your muscles and clearly there's some people are pushing their bodies a little bit too hard.
Starting point is 01:29:05 And might I add as well with all this traveling, all that stuff, sitting down for long periods of time, you don't, those soft tissues don't get enough time to recover and like everybody knows that's a part of the training as well. You need time, you need time to sleep. Your body needs to rest. You're just going to keep, especially those soft tissues, especially
Starting point is 01:29:21 she gets sore and everything is just going to crumble down from there. You understand. I can speak on the Rockets because I'm with these guys. The Rockets spend hundreds of thousands of dollars a year on sports performance. Probably millions.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Oh, I'm sure millions. I mean, I'm just talking about just salary. We have three soft tissue guys. We have two strength and condition. We have a full training. I mean, our sports performance, the Rocket Sports Performance, is like seven people deep on the traveling party. They have a dietitian that travels.
Starting point is 01:29:55 I mean, they're, Rossi, the rockets among like many other teams are doing everything humanly possible to keep this incredible, rigorous athletic schedule going. But yet, the soft tissue injuries remain undefeated. They just do. Yeah, I just think it's a situation where we've learned so much about the perfect diet and the perfect training and the perfect supplements and stuff that the bodies
Starting point is 01:30:21 are getting, they're just getting pushed too far. The science is too good in a way. To where you're maximizing muscle size and strength and all this other stuff and the bodies, the bodies are tapping out. Let me have them for one night. We'll get some junk food. And we'll go bowling.
Starting point is 01:30:36 Probably what Jonathan's saying, rest. I mean, you can't rest when you sit in the plane after you do a game. They just finished game, what, Sunday? Got on a plane on Tuesday? I mean, it's not much time you can let your legs just come out and rest. I know they have stretch out and, like, trainers, but it's just natural rest It's hard to do it. How do you rest when you're playing
Starting point is 01:30:53 three to four days a week? You know, you can cut your raxes down for sure. But, you know, you can't do that because you're going to be rusty. You know, so it's a hard, like Ross, I've made a really good point. It's what? You maximize your whole You're pushing the limits. Yeah, and now we see it in baseball right now with Tommy John. You maximize the velocity to do everything, which you can push, and then the body can only handle so much.
Starting point is 01:31:17 So how are we going to resolve it? Maybe they can moratorium. Nobody's allowed to work out in August. They catch you working out, and you're in a violation of the CBA. Everybody gets fat in August. Like, literally it's gain, it's gained 10 pound month. Flab. Drink, smoke, eat fried food, don't work out, put your hands between your pants, inside your pants, and just watch TV.
Starting point is 01:31:43 Yeah, in the old days, you have, like, guys who just play themselves into shape during the season. Now it's like, you're a, if you're not. not working out and pushing and going two, three a day workouts and going simulated five on five and doing this and this and that, you're a bad teammate. That's the culture of it. All right.
Starting point is 01:32:02 We're going to ask you a joke about this tomorrow. Wouldn't it be a good question? Yeah, it's a great question. Anything else from you? What else you want? How about Shador Sanders making his first NFL start? And getting robbed? Well, yeah, we mentioned that yesterday.
Starting point is 01:32:18 and did you mention the college football rankings Houston Cougars coming at number 23 Congratulations to the Couges You're welcome Yeah They're still 23rd even though they had that embarrassing loss To the West Virginia mountaineers That's good
Starting point is 01:32:32 Because half the fishing crew was from Morgantown That's not true You could tell they weren't wearing shoes Well they all had like four teeth They all had chalgs They all had spatoons That was a dead giveaway By the way
Starting point is 01:32:45 Bill Bender at Sporting News has the week 13 bowl projections he has the Cougars playing SMU in the Texas Bowl. I can guarantee you that's not going to happen. Why? It's not going to happen. Why? Because we play SMU too much
Starting point is 01:33:03 as it is. I thought they're in the ACC. They are. I don't get what you're getting at. We don't believe in Houston versus Dallas. That doesn't mean. That'd be a good matchup. It'd be great matchup.
Starting point is 01:33:19 I'm out at the Texas Bowl. Let's go somewhere else. Hot Tarts Bowl. Why do you care? So then we can talk about all the Houston fans not showing up to the Texas Bowl in Houston. That'd be fun. That's right. I don't want to discuss it.
Starting point is 01:33:35 SMU don't draw either. SMU don't bring people either, so. No, they don't. They're SMU. We could get 15,000 at the game, bowl game. In Houston? that's embarrassing 20
Starting point is 01:33:49 that's embarrassing yeah come on now let's get 30 at least 27 5 30 well you know what I'll put my name on it Houston plays in Texas Bowl 30,000 Cougar fans will be there I would hope so
Starting point is 01:34:01 it's literally in Houston and it's going to be indoors seriously there's a ton of parking over there so I don't want to hear it now no all right there's the news at noon it is 1215 we have to have a hard to hard talk with some of you on the 4U tab
Starting point is 01:34:17 if you're like Texans Toro or Battle Red Robbie or Deep Steel Dolores whatever the case it would be we've got to stop talking about a Texans narrative that is on those Twitter streets we'll discuss it next
Starting point is 01:34:30 Matt and Ross with you on this Wednesday if you want to come in and say hello you're always welcome to join the show Ross we do invite our callers to come in And most time, we enjoy your experience of joining us. Yeah, we'd love to hear from you. Yeah. Yeah, I got to hear from somebody that's trying to convince me that Davis Mills is a better solution than C.J. Stroud.
Starting point is 01:35:01 I mean, my gosh. I mean, Money Mill. Look at these tweets. Money Mills is our answer. You know, CJ gets hurt too much. I mean, God bless it. You guys watch a little football, right? We are swimming in an ocean of stupidity, Matthew.
Starting point is 01:35:26 Maybe it's just people just trolling, right? That's a troll job. Well, yeah, that's the problem. Especially on Twitter. You're incentivized to get the most views by saying the most incendiary and or stupid stuff. So you can make your $6 check. Habachi says, not the Batchin I'm paying for, it says Many people are saying that Davis Mills is the future of the Texans
Starting point is 01:35:53 and they should move C.J. Stroud for assets as off as a week QB class. Who are these people? Nobody said that. I wonder who they are. There's net's not real. I would hope not. God, I'm mighty. This is, it's painful.
Starting point is 01:36:10 In Mills, we trust money Mills, getting his opportunity, I finally stays healthy in C.J. I mean, this is crazy. You guys, I'm not talking about everybody, but in theory, y'all all love C.J. Stroud. Oh, my God. There's this AI video of Davis Mills throwing the ball with money flying in the air.
Starting point is 01:36:36 I think we've got to get rid of some things. We've got to get rid of infielder utility guy is better than the everyday guy. we got to get rid of the backup quarterback is better than what we currently have now I think we have to what else we're going to get rid of
Starting point is 01:36:52 prospect guy Joey Loperfito is a future hall of favor yes Joey Loper you can't continue to trade away the Loperfeitos of the world I don't know
Starting point is 01:37:09 again it sports has so many people that follow it that we can't all collectively have the same opinion. I'm not naive to that. That's true. But there can't be a large group of people that aren't like seriously
Starting point is 01:37:24 filled with all sorts of high-end meds that think that Davis Mills is a better long-term solution than Tampusraud. Diversity of thought is important. Very important. Yeah, we can't always agree. This show doesn't always agree. We rarely agree, actually. No, we do it. I would say most, 70-30.
Starting point is 01:37:41 Yeah, and that's good. If we always just disagreed it would be hard for us to listen and if we always agree to each other that would just be like sickening yeah but whenever you feel like you want to be wrong then we disagree it's nice whenever you whenever you feel like a jack you want to be in a jackass rosh and your opinions
Starting point is 01:37:56 oh money mills well we'll see maybe he's going to have a great game on Thursday you're ready for you ready for this bold ass hot as take you're ready for this how many games left in the season Yes If the Texans go two and one
Starting point is 01:38:19 They're going to squeak in the playoffs Yeah but I think Here is the Here is the definitive statement That I'm not I'm going to say very slowly And I'll repeat it The Texans must win two of the next three games If they can go anything less than two and one
Starting point is 01:38:41 They're going to get caught up in a tiebreaker that they can't get out of. Because their tiebreakers are going to be with the Colts, the Chiefs, and the Bills. You must, the Texans, must win. Go two and one
Starting point is 01:38:57 in their next three games in order to make the playoffs. If they go one and two, they're not getting in. I don't know that for sure. They can finish 10 and 7 still. I do. I already know. No, you don't. No, you don't. You said they're way out of the playoffs, and then they won three
Starting point is 01:39:13 out of four, so no. You said the Astros are winning in the AOS, so we don't know, we don't know, mid-season. I know. I know. I know. They don't. They could beat the Cardinals, Raiders, Chargers, and at the last game of the season, the Colts could be playing for nothing. And then that would put them in 10 and 7.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Who were the three gimmies you had already? I didn't say gimmies. You ran through them pretty quick, though. What were they? Cardinals, Raiders, Cardinals and Raiders at home, those sheds. should be wins, and then on the road of the Chargers. We just got destroyed by the Jaguars. The Texans will not be
Starting point is 01:39:51 favored at the L.A. Chargers. Not that means everything, because we know Vegas is always right. Sometimes it's right, sometimes wrong. I'm going to say it again, so you can mark it down. All right. The Texans must go two and one or better in the next three games, or there is no chance.
Starting point is 01:40:09 No way. Oh, no chance. You put your name on it. I'm putting my name on. I'm in leave in Ohio, baby, and I put my name on it. Okay. You could be right. I mean, you could be. And guess what? If I am, guess what I'm going to do? I'm going to tell you about it. Of course.
Starting point is 01:40:25 That's why I write these things down, because you're going to bring it up when you're right and pat yourself at the back and tell yourself, you're going to literally give yourself a nickname, Nostroft Thomas. Well, I don't have to be there to let you know. What's that? I got a couple, not many.
Starting point is 01:40:42 Five diamond mat, high, horse mat, fancy mat, Peach Basket. Mr. Texas. Those are the two of them going with these days. The worst Mr. Texas in history. Was he saying that all last week, Jonathan? He's Mr. Texas. You know, no, because the tweet took away his, you know,
Starting point is 01:40:57 his attention. Yeah, the tweet man, this was crazy. What happened? When he went viral. That's all he was talking about. I mean, look, they got 2.2. Is that where it's at now? When did he get up to like 2.5?
Starting point is 01:41:10 Let's go. It was not even a... I mean, it was a great... That's my point. That was my point. It was a great tweet. There was incisive analysis. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:41:19 It was spectacular, good stuff from SportsMT. That's all false. You are the best tweeter in history. Nope. Nope, nope. That's exactly my point is my tweet was average at best, and I got 2 million views. It doesn't make any sense. The algorithm of the X account is flawed.
Starting point is 01:41:38 Yeah, you just ended up in the 4U tab. Yeah, Gordy's got 2.4. 3 million. Did I gravy trainer and I get a separate group of 2 million looking at that? No, it would be your views, not his.
Starting point is 01:41:52 If you quote tweeted it or you're replied? I quote tweeted it. 2.1 million. I'm down 200,000 views on that one from Gordy. Wait, you got 11,000 likes? See?
Starting point is 01:42:08 Yeah. Wow. Good for you. I didn't get ratioed. It's going to be. That's going to be some kind of record. It is. Gordy was getting ratioed.
Starting point is 01:42:18 Gordy was getting ratioed. But he's like, it's a joke. And I said, well, there were no emojis. There was no ha-haz. There were no quotes. He was serious as a heart attack. When in doubt, when you say, I was just joking, it means you're coming, but you're trying to circle back on what you said and trying to get out of it.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Crawl fishing, as they call it. Thank goodness you had me to call him out. And he got called out. It's fine. We're still good friends. Good job, guys. good job matt we're all proud of you it it's uh 1230 the matt thomas show at ross we've got an hour and a half left to go man this show's flying by rossie right uh-huh
Starting point is 01:42:56 i consider it flying by i'm enjoying it yeah i'm agreeing with you we're all agreeing you yeah we're agreeing with you all right so i was getting no response back in the home office i said uh-huh i thought y'all were not in off or something i'm sorry i was watching the women's champion league soccer all right uh seven one three two 212-790, 7-1-3-212-5-790. We go to Buffalo, New York, in one-half-hour here on the program. Ross, what is today's edition, and believe it or not, at 150? A hell if I know.
Starting point is 01:43:24 What should it be? Well, we've done Cleveland before. That's nothing new. Oh, by the, well, I got one something for you. While you were gone, Cole Thompson, who's, I would say it's a pretty decent hot-take machine. Mm-hmm. I would call him a hot-take cannon. Yeah, he ain't firing on all cylinders, but he fires off on something.
Starting point is 01:43:43 Cumb cylinders. He had a super hot take about the Dallas Mavericks that he's feeling pretty good about, and I kind of understand why now. God, I got to give him the flowers. You agree with him at? Oh. No, I don't agree with him. But there was stuff that was out there today that made me go, uh-oh, he could be on to something.
Starting point is 01:44:03 And if you're going to give Cole Thompson his flowers, oh, this is going to be a low end segment for me. It's up next. 713-212-5-790. So, Rossi, at least for now here in Houston, Texas. It is the Matt Thomas Show at Rossum here in Cleveland for tonight's Rockets and Cavaliers game. We've not really got much in the game. If you want to discuss it, we're here for you.
Starting point is 01:44:27 We do like the Rockets. We believe in them. 713-1-2-1-2-5-7-9. And, by the way, they're very good. They've won four consecutive games. All right. So the Astros are happy with Dyken Park. We're going to get some enhancements to TOTA Center.
Starting point is 01:44:42 So the Rockets are working on that. And the Texans are going to ultimately either get reinforcements and re-enfirmishment of NRG Stadium, or they're going to go try to find a spot to build a new stadium. That's to be determined, right? But generally speaking, I think would you say the harmony is decent in Houston, Texas? Right, it's when it's sports teams and leases and all that kind of thing, right? Yeah, nobody's in danger of leaving. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Well, the Dallas Mavericks are fighting with the Dallas Stars. okay what's the beef the beef is the lease agreement at american airline center okay and apparently the stars own the lease of the building and there is legal drama
Starting point is 01:45:31 and i don't want to get into too much of the minutia on that between the stars and mavericks but they don't they're not getting along documents filed by the dallas stars yesterday allege that the owners of the Mavericks have violated the Mavericks franchise agreement with the City of Dallas. According to the court documents, the franchise agreement requires the Mavericks to continuously designate the city of Dallas as the location of the team's principal, corporate, and executive officers, offices, excuse me. Well, according to the recent state files with the Texas Secretary of State, the new owners of the Dallas Mavericks, the Dumonts, designated the location of the team's principal, corporate, and executive offices in Las Vegas, Nevada. Are these people casino owners or anything like that?
Starting point is 01:46:30 Yes, they are. Yes. And the Dumont family bought it from the. Cubans or from our Cuban and they're not the country of Cuba no and they have never hidden the fact they want to see
Starting point is 01:46:44 casino gambling come into play and they would like to build a superplex with an arena and several high-end casinos for the Dumont family and you and I would be on part would it be an agreement that we need casino gambling and tech we'd be taking trips
Starting point is 01:47:00 to Dallas quite frequently and finally give me a reason like I have no reason to go Dallas unless it's the state fair and it's OU, Texas. Well, put it this way. If they get casinos in Dallas are getting casinos in Houston. I mean, either that or Galvest or whatever the case. I might go check it out.
Starting point is 01:47:15 You know everyone's built it first, but at this point, they cannot do that. So, Clay, Clay, Cole, who filled in for you a couple hours last week, was like, he thinks this is a grandmaster plan that if the Mavericks,
Starting point is 01:47:30 if the Dumont family cannot get casino gambling, in Texas, that they're trying to wiggle the way out of the lease in Dallas to move the Mavericks to Las Vegas. And I said, that is completely preposterous and ridiculous. And I said, the NBA is not going to allow the city of Dallas not to have an NBA team. It's too big of a media market. And when you are looking to get eyeballs on these brand-new television deals, you need the
Starting point is 01:48:04 Dallas market as part of it. And his answer back to me was, well, you're right about that. The Dallas will get an expansion team, but this is a grand master plan by the Mavericks ownership group to try to move the team to Dallas. And I thought that was patently absurd.
Starting point is 01:48:20 So, okay, I didn't know they were, they're the Las Vegas Sands people. That's like Venetian, Palazzo, and some other stuff. They do very well. And like I said, they want to see. The Las Vegas Sains are doing all right. They got some cash. They want to build that for Dallas like a lot of folks
Starting point is 01:48:36 I would presume that Tillman would do the exact same thing in Texas whether it be San Antonio, Austin, you mean again, if you get casino gambling in Texas, they're going to pop up everywhere. San Antonio you don't think San Antonio wouldn't build a casino tomorrow. Austin wouldn't build it with a
Starting point is 01:48:53 population growth there. Houston wouldn't do it. Galveston wouldn't. I mean, they would be sprotten up everywhere, especially with all the money that we spent. Think about the money that is spent in Shreveport and in Lake Charles alone by us. It's crazy. Oh, Choctaw, but Oklahoma border.
Starting point is 01:49:10 Same thing. Yeah. Oh, by the way, they sold the Venetian Palazzo, so never mind. But they still own a bunch of casinos. But they're in the casino business. And it looks like all the ones they own are in Macau and Singapore. The name of the group is owned by Mirian Adelson
Starting point is 01:49:26 and her son-in-law, Patrick Dumont. Dumont's the one that runs the Mavericks. He's the one that got Nico Harrison. He fired Nico Harrison next week. So what did Cole Thompson do? He added me at the CBS News Report on Dallas that said that there is an office for the Dallas Mavericks in Las Vegas, Nevada right now. So he's got a little scoreboard on me. It hasn't happened yet.
Starting point is 01:49:51 I'm going to still stand by what I say. Yeah, if the owner's in Vegas, and that's just where they listed their headquarters. Yes. I still, Ross, he can't imagine. Now, I do believe the NBA will go to Las Vegas. But I can't imagine them uplifting and moving the Dallas Mavericks as a group to Las Vegas because they're getting sideways with the Dallas Stars who control the lease at American Airlines Center. Yeah, we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 01:50:19 But like you said, it's a huge market. There is some history there. They have a pretty good fan base. I don't think it's going to happen. Yeah. So I don't know when the lease and the Mavericks goes is done with. But the fact is they're just arguing about it now. So obviously, it's got to be within the next handful of years.
Starting point is 01:50:36 I just thought it was interesting that Cole Thompson wanted to make sure he got something right. Imagine me, Ross, ever going to you on your Twitter account and finding something that I was right about and then tweeting at you. Is that terrible? I think you've done that. Well, you don't do that often because usually I'm right when we argue. But you've done it before. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:51:00 man this I never thought in my life we would be talking about as much money as we have and look we're not in the hot sizzle of the playoffs we still got regular season games left the college basketball season's early B&B season's early so
Starting point is 01:51:19 we're going to have a little bit more time and we're doing a four-hour show so we're looking to expand we just can't continue to break down the bills runs defense that's boring as hell it just feels like and I don't know if I'm just misremembering or what but don't you it feels like we talk about money and monetary issues you know with nil and college and contracts and uh private a private it feels like more and more and more when it's all these leagues have always been about money ever since the inception of them in like
Starting point is 01:51:49 the early 1900s or whatever yeah but it just feels like more and more and more it's everything is more in our face about money and revenues and pushing revenues and finding i mean we were talking about the NBA and finding the Cavaliers and this Amazon Prime video and all everything is all it all comes down to money and while we could be disgusted by it we still watch it we still love it yep there were two SEC games on this past weekend and had over 10 million viewers yeah didn't seem to care about NIL then and tonight when I am in the bucket arena calling the Rockets Cavaliers game, I'm going to be super
Starting point is 01:52:30 excited to see who wins the game. It's the Bocket Oren, you know, sponsor. Pocket. Pocket. Pocket. Sock it. It's a mortgage. Bop it?
Starting point is 01:52:42 I think it's fine. Whatever. Okay. We do, we're never going to stop love in sports, but we're going to be a little bit more, I mean, I think there's a disenfranchisement
Starting point is 01:52:57 Is that a word I just made it up? I'm going to go with that. I think fans are little by little. Disillusioned? Disillusioned. Because I'll tell you this. I was at breakfast today with some great friends of our, and we were talking about how we left the NBA,
Starting point is 01:53:14 but it's pain in the ass to figure out where the games are on what channel. And so what people are going to do is they're going to say, okay, it's a Rano's, it's 8 o'clock, 8 o'clock at night. You're going to sit down with your wife, your kids are going to relax it in bed or on the couch. you don't want to spend 10 minutes looking for the game. Yeah, but you can learn by day. Learn it.
Starting point is 01:53:32 If you want to, if you want to, I mean, right? Mondays, Monday. Go ahead. Yeah. Last night was easy. It was NBC. I mean, that took very little lifting. Wednesdays ESPN, Friday's Prime video.
Starting point is 01:53:44 But here's the thing. If you're a channel changer like I am and like I would assume most people are, you can't channel change between what's on your Marek Me and your Amazon Prime. You just flip apps. You'll be fine. I don't know. It's not that easy. I'm not channel changer.
Starting point is 01:54:00 Just get another TV, Matt. Come on. I've been telling you to do this for years now. It's the big 2025. TVs are cheap. How about Christmas present time? Oh, I can change you a nice cheap TV. You can do it.
Starting point is 01:54:13 Go get on, yeah. Go give me one of those Black Friday sales. I know. I've been keeping tabs on deals right now. So I'm looking for. 1245. It is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. In 15 minutes.
Starting point is 01:54:25 We go to Buffalo. and check on the bills. We'll actually talk some serious football for about 10 minutes. Well, we can do it more than that, but you don't might drift. Ross, we need a game to get to. We need this game because the Texans are going to go two and one. They're going to make the playoffs. Or not?
Starting point is 01:54:39 Speaking into existence. Thank you, Nick. Nick Casario, yesterday, not giving out a whole lot of deets about the future of Joe Mixon. I got one for you. I'll be wearing another uniform next year. That's because I'm the Texans insider. what is your declaration mr texon's insider put your name on it i'll put my name on terry i'm putting my name on it what's that joe mixon's playing somewhere else
Starting point is 01:55:07 in twenty twenty six oh that's fine agree maybe go ahead keep on the train let's go you can do it it won't hurt yeah he's a he's gonna be a thirty-year-old running back he could be anywhere Yep. That's not some grandiose prediction. I'm saying the Mavericks are moving to Vegas. Now that's Stones, baby. I'm not saying that.
Starting point is 01:55:35 How about this? You know what? Sports Hutch said something. What if the NBA forced the Mavericks to, the Dumont family to sell the Mavericks? You could do that. Can you? Why would they force them out?
Starting point is 01:55:45 And then tell the DeMonts, you can have your arena in Vegas. You can have your team in Vegas. I got news for you, too, Ross. Not that I think the general public cares about this, but real quick, Mobile Arena where the NBA plays their games and know their college games? It ain't good enough for the NBA.
Starting point is 01:56:02 It's not? Why not? It's just not fancy enough. I thought it was recently built. Yep. Things get recently built and get recently changed right away. Yeah, open in 2016. It's a dump? Not a dump. It just doesn't have the bells and whistles that you would think in a Las Vegas arena.
Starting point is 01:56:22 Okay. Just throwing that. out there. 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-79. Do you see what Davis-Mills said yesterday about Titus Howard? What did he say about Titus Howard? I don't know. Do we have the audio or not?
Starting point is 01:56:41 I have no idea. Did Wex get this? Okay. I don't know. He says that Titus Howard played quarterback in high school and that he could throw a ball 60 to 70 yards in the air to this day. Really? Yes.
Starting point is 01:56:56 that's awesome okay I'm highly intrigued by this I mean highly intrigued by this what do you think is he is he the emergency quarterback that would be amazing run some wildcat with him too
Starting point is 01:57:12 what is his weight and height I'm a look at a 5-322 pounds who you can't go you can make him tackle eligible Yo, he ran a five second, 40? That's not bad.
Starting point is 01:57:29 That's not bad for a guy his size. That was also six years ago. I don't know if he's running that today, but. Okay, so let's put this. Let's make him an extra tight end. I like this a lot. Make him tackle eligible. You send him on an end around.
Starting point is 01:57:45 End around. All right. Listen, listen to me. You need to get him downhill. You got to get his motor turned on. So he's running, and that's what he gets to here. Yeah, you don't need him east to west. For a little bit, you do?
Starting point is 01:57:57 No, you don't. You need him downhill, Matthew. I formation. Let's go. Okay, so let's put this in perspective then. How do you do this? If I'm going to use Titus Howard in a pass play this week, or any week, he's got a lineup as a fullback maybe?
Starting point is 01:58:13 And you put him in the, you put C.J. In a shotgun. Okay. Pistol formation. Yes. You hand the ball to Titus, and you go, oh, look at it. He's going to get a third. Third and one, he's going to get that one yard for the first down.
Starting point is 01:58:28 Wait a minute. He's rolling around. See, you can't put him in a straight position. He's going to have to. He's got the rare pack. If he's going to throw the ball 70 yards, he's going to need a few steps. Yeah, he's going to need a flea flicker situation. You got to get them.
Starting point is 01:58:42 No, you're not asking him to, no, you're asking, you want him to roll. You want him to go in a flea flicker. That's not going to happen. He's not going to roll out. Well, the receiver's got to get downfield. If you want him to throw 70-yard bombs, you've got to let the play develop. I thought you were just trying to get a little jump past to the tight end. No, no, no, no, I want him to air it out.
Starting point is 01:59:08 Biggest arm of the team. Well, we know biggest neck. Who's got the biggest arm? The biggest what? Neck. Okay. Can you repeat that for me? No.
Starting point is 01:59:20 I didn't hear it. I didn't hear you. So the audience probably didn't hear you either. You don't think that Davis Mills has the biggest neck on the team? N-E-C-K? We'll see you on Friday. No, no see you on Friday. I did nothing wrong.
Starting point is 01:59:42 I said nothing wrong. Nothing was, I don't know what's going through your warped mind. Speaking of a warp mind. George is on 790. George, what's going on? Okay. George. George.
Starting point is 01:59:58 Did he drop his phone? It sounds like a swimming in a sink. It sounds like a horse eating an apple. Up he's okay. Is he searching for his phone right now? Is he okay? George, blink your eyes or honk your horn. Let somebody know you're okay.
Starting point is 02:00:19 All right, let's go to Buffalo next. Let's. We need some serious football chatter. We'll do that next. Jeremy White with WGR Radio next. This is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. Our next guest was an earlier Gaston Sports Talk 790 during the day of Matthews morning get together. In fact, Jeremy is invoiced eye heart for Jeremy to make multiple appearances on our show each of the next a handful of days.
Starting point is 02:00:48 Jeremy White, WGR Radio, Jeremy, thanks for joining 790 for the second time today. Good afternoon to you, sir. Great to be a part of the family Well, you'll get nothing like it And we'll ask you more more hours No, forget it I'm not going to get it to that Hey, let me ask you
Starting point is 02:01:03 Are you from Buffalo? Where are you originally from? Syracuse, about two hours outside of Buffalo. Okay, so you grew up a Bills fan, I'm assuming Or at least like somebody that watched the Bills as a young child? I grew up a New York Giants fan Which is one of the awkward things about Being a Bills fan and covering the bills now
Starting point is 02:01:21 is that the most horrible moment in Bill's franchise history was losing to the Giants that I was 12 and having because I left the Giants. So the reason I asked is... I had to come clean with Bill's fans about that. I understand. The reason why I'm asking is I want you to give...
Starting point is 02:01:35 We were talking about this yesterday on the show before we get to the game itself. We believe the three most rabid fan bases in the NFL, not that there are not 20 of them, but the three most rabid, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, and Buffalo. So, I want you to explain to our audience in Houston. We've got cowboy fans here.
Starting point is 02:01:56 We've got Texans fans here. We have Saints fans here. We've got fans of everybody. What separates the Buffalo Bill fan, Bill's Mafia, as compared to, say, the rest of the NFL fan base? And please and feel, feel free to embellish. Sure. Sure. There's a lot of factors.
Starting point is 02:02:13 I think you've got, in the present day, what you have is a team that is good and a fan base that waited almost 20 years to be good. The 17-year playoff route that was from 1999 to 2017, like, that was we were an NFL team and we were threatened by the idea that the team would move because the owner was not, you know, didn't have a succession plan in place. So basically have a fan base that was built nervous and bad. That's this generation. And now they're very solidly here and we get a brand new stadium.
Starting point is 02:02:50 year and the quarterback is the best in football or one of the best in football and they win the division all the time so you have a fan base that is basically uh reached into every walk of life every age every kind of person the town shuts down every player the place here says it's like a college atmosphere and i think that's probably right the tailgating is amazing it's just a stadium out in the middle of a bunch of parking lots everybody has their traditions i like to say that basically every single game day is like Thanksgiving for me because my entire family is there. Everybody's at the game. Who's going to watch the kids?
Starting point is 02:03:25 I don't know because everybody's at the game. Wow. So the town shuts down. Yeah, like it's absolutely a way of life. I don't know people that don't watch the bills. I don't know a single person that doesn't have at least, you know, even if it's just three hours on Sunday, never mind, fully invested in draft picks and trades and this and that. So it's 100% of way of life.
Starting point is 02:03:46 and yeah yeah so that's like this generation and before that like you know it's it's it's the game in town it's the bills we have a hockey team too it's a very big hockey town but they're also terrible and stuck in their own drought so everybody's just really looking at the bills to finally deliver a Super Bowl you finally have this generation able to bond with their parents generation which went to four Super Bowls and understand what that's like so now everybody wants it and it's very close by so yeah it's 24 hours a day each leave bills. All right. Last question before we get to the game itself. The new stadium is open air. It sounds like to me that the dome wasn't even considered. Is that accurate, or was there a consideration of putting a roof on it? I think there was consideration.
Starting point is 02:04:30 My biggest thing on that, I switched. I used to think that we should build a dome out this way and, you know, let's end of the 21st century. But then I changed my mind. When the bills beat the Patriots 47 to 17 in the playoffs a couple years ago and it was negative eight, I slowly began to realize that half the reason we remember those games and have an identity at all is because they're outside. So, yeah, I flipped. Was it considered? Sure. They did studies and all that. My biggest thing on the dome was it was going to cost twice as much. And I think the state and the county and the owner wanted to get something done. Get in. Let's get something that won't be the biggest problem. And they got a closed stadium. It's fully enclosed. There's a hole in the roof. There's
Starting point is 02:05:14 The canopy over 65% of the seats. So lots of people will be covered. The field won't be. The concourses will be warmed and heated. And they think it's going to be a fully enclosed stadium that is susceptible to the elements, but it's just going to be such a different experience than the current stadium, which is wide open and the concourses are freezing. I feel like people are going to think they're in a dome, even though it's not. So I'm quite happy that we will remain open air.
Starting point is 02:05:42 It's Buffalo. It's supposed to be played. football is supposed to be played outside. We've got our share of people that wish it was closed, but I don't have time for them. I'm not listening to that. Cleveland is soft, right? Cleveland's going to a dome.
Starting point is 02:05:53 Absolute mistake. What a disaster. Let me tell you something. We've got these teams in the Northeast that live like this. We're supposed to live like this. I'm in Cleveland right now. I'm going to be all for the dome stadiums. That's just me.
Starting point is 02:06:04 We know what? We're soft in Texas. I'm just going to be flat out on us with you. Jeremy White joining us, WGR Radio in Buffalo. All right. You went on Dan's show this morning and said that you fully expect a Texans running back to rush for 100 yards. I know why you said it, but are you, do you really believe that?
Starting point is 02:06:26 Is the bills run defense that atrocious? It's really bad. Now, I don't know. I don't know if I said word for word. He'll run for 100. I said, what's his career high? I wouldn't put it past him to get it. Now, the game script's going to have to be that way.
Starting point is 02:06:41 But if you get that, whoever you get, 20 carries, I mean, you'll get your, you'll make money run on the ball against this bill's defense. If you don't, then you really do have problems running the football. The boxer down to their third string back last week, he runs for 200 yards, right? It doesn't matter who goes in. It's Derek Henry. He's going to rip off some yards. It's going to be the Saints ran. Devon A. Chan ran.
Starting point is 02:07:03 Everybody, B. John Robinson ran on this team. Everybody runs on the bills. The problem is, I think, when you're playing the bills, is that, this is my opinion. here. They do want you to run. They invite you to run. Their entire defensive philosophy, the entire Shaw-McDermann era has been, we're going to stop the pass and we're going to invite the run. Sometimes that means they get run on. This year, I think it means they get run on even more because they just don't really have the bodies. They're missing important pieces. They're young draft picks. Some of them are ready to play. Some of them are not quite
Starting point is 02:07:32 ready to play. So it's a work in progress kind of overhauling this defense from a veteran laden group from a couple years back to what they are now. So yeah, most teams can run on them and if you want to try and run the ball, this is as good a team to try it against as any. All right. There have been storylines about this game, and one of them is
Starting point is 02:07:52 that Josh Allen is not like playing the Texans. Has that been much of a storyline up there as the bills? It feels like to me, and correct me if I'm wrong. Are they Jekyll and Hyde in Orchard Park? They're amazing, and they're very mid outside of upstate New York.
Starting point is 02:08:08 I don't think that's the case this year. That's not really been the case in the Jacques Allen era. They do have a couple of losses on the road this year to Miami and Atlanta. They've had some offensive identity issues. That's really what it's come down to, that trying to figure out what they want to be. They are a very good wrong team, and sometimes they stick with that too much, or sometimes they're too predictable. They were heading into last week.
Starting point is 02:08:31 They were the number one team running on first down, and plenty of people around here think, your quarterback is amazing. Why on earth would you ever be the run heaviest team on first down? Why would you ever lean into the run instead of the pass? And the reason is they're good at it. And they want to be, you know, they want to keep Josh from doing Josh things. Josh Allen is the roller coaster ride. You and Houston have seen it.
Starting point is 02:08:55 The playoff game from 2019, that was a full young Josh Allen experience, doing crazy stuff. He caught a touchdown pass. He threw a bomb to a fullback. who was double covered. He lateral the ball. I mean, he at his best now is a better version of that. He'll truck a linebacker. He'll jump over
Starting point is 02:09:15 a defensive back. He will throw on the run. He will catch touchdowns. He is a one-man show. He's incredible. And I think the bills feel a little bit of a desire to rein him in from time to time. The problem is up here, the belief is that this season, they got
Starting point is 02:09:30 way too far on raining him in. Way too much. This should be a run first team. It should not go as James Cook goes. So last week, they kind of overhauled their receiving core after the deadline as best they could. They got Josh Palmer back healthy. They dressed Gabriel Davis, who had been on the practice squad, nursing and injury. They benched Gian Coleman for what they said was a disciplinary issue, which is a separate thing. But they could have done that for performance, and we all would have said that makes sense. So they looked different, they played different, and they got their best offensive out again
Starting point is 02:10:02 the season. And now we're kind of waiting to see with this big test, with the Texans and how good that defense is, if in fact that offense, the way they played against the Box, can sling it against the Texans, can sling it against some of the best defenses in football, because the box came into a pretty good defense and didn't have any answers.
Starting point is 02:10:19 Yeah, what was it, 44 points? Were you stunned by the amount of points that were scored on both sides of the football last Sunday when the bills beat the Buccaneers? I was not that stunned. The biggest surprise to me was that it was a very windy day. And during pregame, the wind is howling.
Starting point is 02:10:35 So you would have thought, all right, this is to be the kind of game. We've seen these in Buffalo where nobody's going to be able to throw the ball. And sure enough, they could both throw the ball. They could throw the ball deep. They could throw it anywhere they wanted to. So, you know, Baker and Josh, I think, also have a bit of a friendly rivalry between the two of them. They play golf together. They joked about each other in the press conference leading up to it.
Starting point is 02:10:53 I kind of think they might have brought out the best in each other in that day and that game as well because they both played really well. And I was only surprised on the points based on the weather. All right, so anybody that follows the Buffalo Bills, or at least from a fantasy perspective, knows. And we're going to wrap things up here with just a second with Jeremy White from WGR Radio in Buffalo. Look, Cook is no surprise to anybody that owns fantasy. But for the average NFL running back, he doesn't come top of mind. Can he by himself if Josh has an abnormal game, which he's not had great games against Texans? Can James Cook by himself beat the Houston Texans?
Starting point is 02:11:30 Maybe. I mean, Cook is, they just signed him to a contract extension, and he's the first running back that the bills decided to really pony up the money for. And the thing I was pointing to when they were thinking, when we were talking about should they do it or not, is that for the last two seasons, James Cook has been a top 10 running back in yards over expected of use like next gen stats, like breaking tackles, like making more from what he gets than anybody else. Top 10 in the last two seasons. This year he's number two. He's behind only Jonathan Taylor. You look at the top running backs in the league and yards over-expected per attempt
Starting point is 02:12:05 is Taylor, James Cook, Rico Dowdells up there, Javante Williams. He had a really good season last year and you could separate it out from how good the bill's offensive line is, which is very good. And the other thing the bills did, last year they dressed a lot of six offensive lineman
Starting point is 02:12:21 names Alec Anderson. Instead of dressing him all the time, now they drafted a fifth round tight end whose name is Jackson Hawes, who they They billed as the best blocking tight end they have ever seen, and they throw him out there, and he blocks everyone's face off. So the bills do have the ability to kind of play bully ball and go with James Cook. If you can shut it down, of course, the belief is Josh Allen can do enough. But if the passing game's not there, they have kind of a pitch that they didn't have in Allen's first two, three, four years.
Starting point is 02:12:54 So Ken Cook win it himself if they just kind of grind it on the ground. I want to say yes, he's very good. And their line is very good, and they've got people that block. The receivers on the team, the side ends on the team. Everybody buys into the run game when it has to go that direction. If you ever make it to Houston, Jeremy, we owe you a meal because you've been on two times in one day. We thank you very much for joining us here on the Sports Talk 790. And stay warm.
Starting point is 02:13:18 Have you got any lake effects? No yet. Not yet. We got a dusting a couple days ago. I'm told that just after Thanksgiving, it'll start to turn. So we'll be ready for it. Thank you, Jeremy, for the time. as always really really appreciate it anytime all right jeremy white w gr radio 550 in buffalo very nice
Starting point is 02:13:38 and gracious enough to join us here on sports talk 790 believe it or not today is how well do you know the cleveland cavalier franchise 114 ross rejoins the conversation next you may join us at 713212 5 790 in fact i hope ross is not too busy to tell you about how you can feel better get the boost you need in your life. Ross, can you help people with that? 121 on the Matt Thomas show with Ross. We've got a little bit of a breaking news on the show. Uh-oh. That's one. That's it. What the? Fine. SEC Teleconference, Steve Sarkesian.
Starting point is 02:14:20 No. Quote, people reporting or insinuating that there is a possible. that I could leave the University of Texas that's absolutely false and untrue I am not going anywhere and did you talk about anyone making a bowel movement I didn't make it more than one sounder okay
Starting point is 02:14:42 hmm unequivocally saying I'm not going anywhere coaches never do that this week whatever by the way what I, you know, I usually don't look at the television when I'm doing the show with you because you're with me, but I'm staring at the television here now. And so I put sports center and I get the sports headlines.
Starting point is 02:15:06 They're interviewing WWE female wrestlers about their big war games match coming up. I love wrestling, Ross. Wrestling is not a sport. This is absurd. Well, where is that event airing? On the ESPN Family Network. There we go. it's insulting to me
Starting point is 02:15:30 that they're again if you want to have a fun goofy like a morning showist type thing putting them on is fine but this is the name of the show is called Sports Center and Sports Center usually talks about sports not
Starting point is 02:15:47 this yeah I'm watching a women's champions league Olympically Leon just made a second goal now it's a 3 to 2 Juventus There's your update Congratulations to
Starting point is 02:15:59 Juentis Alexis Bliss joined sports This is terrible I mean she's hot I mean I give her that I knew you I knew you're going to say it
Starting point is 02:16:10 What's her name Alexa Bliss A L-E-X-A-B-L-I-S-S Alexa Bliss She's going to be in the war games November the 29th She seems nice She's very nice
Starting point is 02:16:23 seems affable. I believe Adam Clinton has interviewed her before. Oh, her real name is Lexi Cabrera. Cabrera? Whatever. I just, I mean, it just shows you that we've... We've what? We've jumped a shark.
Starting point is 02:16:47 What? WWE? Or sports? Yes, both. Don't say that, Matt. sports are doing great I love all of our wonderful listeners Big Rockets game today It's just weird Texans tomorrow
Starting point is 02:17:00 Yeah Well ESPN is going to try to Pimp their event they've got going on That's That's already got the outcome Written down somewhere Yes Remember I do
Starting point is 02:17:18 I do like wrestling It's a character flaw in mine I get it put on a sports center all right uh so we okay now that sark is going to stay at the university of texas i don't know if he is or if he isn't it's out of my control desmond howard report the other day was erroneous by the way i'm more offended by desmond
Starting point is 02:17:36 howard's uh hat that i was about his take why his bucket hat is michigan bucket hat what's wrong with that apparently he was going fishing before you want to drop that little nugget on people mutual and you know mutual parting of the ways yeah what's wrong with that Well, if he's right, he's going to be the college football insider that I am to the Texans insider. If he's wrong, it's going to be, well, just another random national person saying something out there to get clicks, and it worked. Because what we talked about, we played it a couple times in the show. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:18:10 I just, I think, and you and I have the same philosophy about radio show, and maybe if we were doing it on a national stage, it would be different. But man, oh, man, if you think I would ever come to y'all and say, hey, do you think, Davis Mills really could be better than C.J. Stroud. Then take my man card away. Take my sports radio car away. Take my ability to have a microphone in front of me for four hours a day.
Starting point is 02:18:37 It's absurd. I'm going to go with rage bait. I'm going to go with that. Because look, we do talk about some interesting, funny things that are off the beaten track, and we will bring up, you know, man, are they seeing something, or are we something going to change or should you consider changing or what i mean that comes with the territory of sports
Starting point is 02:18:57 i mean because you're going to you want to jump on what's hot and who's doing well and you know like for instance if you hired like but i mean think about it ed ogeron did he not get the lSU job because he took over midseason and things were going great right yes so that can happen and i think i mean does lSU regret doing it i don't know i mean they spent a lot of money in the guy and fizzled pretty quick. They got a championship out of the deal. They got a championship out of it, so he's not, you know, the worst thing in the world. But it's just crazy how we just ran to the plan B.
Starting point is 02:19:31 And automatically, plan B is always better than the tried and true formula that is plan A. We love backups. But don't we need to define what backups are? They're not starters for a reason. Correct. Speaking of that, I think U of H is going to have themselves a little bit of conundrum here. What's wrong? It's kind of where you're going to hurt?
Starting point is 02:19:56 The number one quarterback in the country, according to 24-7 sports, is a U of H commit. He is literally the number one player in the country. And that means we're going to be paying two guys. That's the thing we don't talk about when we talk about this money that these schools have to pay these athletes. You're not just paying the starting quarterback. you're paying the backup quarterback so you can stay around in case the stern and goes somewhere else. It's crazy. The amount of money that the, I'm presuming, I think his name is, I don't, let me, I'll have to get his name,
Starting point is 02:20:31 but I think it's Henderson's his last name. You, my U of age people would know what his name is. But he's the number, he's the number one player in the country, and he's going to the University of Houston. Yeah. That must be a big check. It's, uh, Kishon Henderson. He, look, 24-7 in sports, earning 24 an hour ago, just literally named him the number one five-star quarterback
Starting point is 02:20:53 commit in the country. Oh, really? They changed their rankings? I guess so. I guess they do it all the time. I see the Georgia QB. Jared Curtis is number one on there. Yeah, this is as of one hour ago.
Starting point is 02:21:09 Top 10 overall class of 2026, number one, Kishon Henderson, quarterback University of Houston. Legacy of the sport, the legacy, the legacy, the school. of sports sciences? Is that where he goes to high school? What district is that in? He's a genius. Okay. What do you mean?
Starting point is 02:21:30 Okay. He wanted to get a higher education. He sounds like a Bishop Sycamore situation. Legacy, the School of Sports Sciences. He learned a valuable lesson. Go play at a high school where he can be a star and get paid. So we're going to be paying Connor Wegman big money, and this kid next year, big money?
Starting point is 02:21:52 Man, hey, everybody, you all right to go to the game on Saturday. We need you, badly. Pay out these high school kids. 1.30 on the Matt Thomas Show with Ross. Believe it or not, today is all things about the Cavaliers. Did you have a good time in looking at the history of the Cavaliers Organization? Hmm. I'm trying to decide how much of a...
Starting point is 02:22:11 You know what? It's fine. There's... If LeBron James never played for the Cavaliers, their greatest player of all time would be Zardunis O'Gauscus Oh What a sad franchise Okay
Starting point is 02:22:27 Let me give you the list And I'm not looking at your questions Ron Harper was a cavalier great For how long? I don't know Brad Doherty was a cavalier great For how long? Craig, I don't know
Starting point is 02:22:39 Craig Eiloh was a cavalier grade If you look at points, rebounds, games, minutes, field goal It's like it's all as Zildurinus Ogaski's also a two-time all-star? Really? Yes.
Starting point is 02:22:52 Zadruna Zalgazquez. Are you okay? I just pulled a Harry Kerry doing an NBA game. You know, Zildrudezal-Zalgaskis spelled backwards. I thought that was an Arnold Schwarzenegger doing a Cavaliers game.
Starting point is 02:23:06 Get to the little chopper Zucruis-Legovkus. Jonathan rate that impersonation very quickly. Wait, wait, hold on, I was editing. What happened? Go go, go ahead. Do it again.
Starting point is 02:23:19 Do it again. Get to the shop, Zildrinoskis. Hey, fighting is going to be fun. He's already clipping ahead. He's going to have three weeks of clips after this week's show is a load. All right. That'll conclude to Zadrana's El-Gauskis talk on the show.
Starting point is 02:23:40 I guess. All right. I mentioned the Astros. I'll get you that in a second, but I just saw the funniest thing on the four YouTube. Sports RV. This is from pro football talk. The NFL is quietly...
Starting point is 02:23:56 I got to read it verbating because I don't want to goof it up here. The NFL is quietly monitoring the return of supersonic flights as a way to make expansion to Europe easier. What? What? Now, I have never been on a supersonic jet before, like the Concord, but from what I understand, they do really, really move quickly, but they're also very slick planes that don't seat a whole lot of people
Starting point is 02:24:33 and are not known for their being overly luxurious. Tell me how you're going to put a 325-pound offensive linemen or defensive lineman on a Concord, even if it's for five hours to go from, say, New York to Berlin. I guess they're going to have to invent planes that can fit these guys. Now, didn't the Concord only have, like, like, a number of, a certain number of seats to begin with? I have no idea.
Starting point is 02:25:08 What are you going to take, like, nine planes to get there? Super Sonic travel is not on my radar. It's just not. to look up the Concord plane. How many people sat on these things? Uh, they began in 1954. What? Yeah. I wouldn't hop on no supersonic plane in 1954.
Starting point is 02:25:23 They had no problems with regular planes. The last commercial flight was in October 2003. Damn. What? Okay. Yeah. So, like, so nobody was just wasn't profitable? I guess. Uh, seating for between 92
Starting point is 02:25:39 and 128 passengers. That's like normal size human beings. we can't get to Europe fast enough can we Rossi seems like we're going to seem dangerous yeah I'm gonna you know what I'm gonna have a I'm gonna pull a rest injury management what happens when you run into a flock of birds at double the speed of sound
Starting point is 02:26:02 I don't want European basketball I don't want European football I don't want European baseball it's a six hour time difference just to London and then it gets more, you go further away. Yeah. Just go put Jacksonville there for three weeks at a time and let them play some games there.
Starting point is 02:26:24 Pushing for more and more and more and pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing. Yep. When does it stop? It's never going to stop. It's a new avenues of pushing. All right, let's get to pushing. Ramona Eureas, you want to be pushing for his playing time? Was not tender to deal by the Astros.
Starting point is 02:26:43 I'm not going to say I'm completely shocked. I think it would have taken Eureas to be really, really, really good to unseat Maricio Dubon as a guy that the asteros would want to keep around because of his ability to play in the infield and the outfield. Been there, done that. Solid glue guy. Doesn't worry about his playing time. Just does whatever is asked by the manager.
Starting point is 02:27:07 And it costs you twine Palmer. How's he? doing, by the way. I have no idea. I don't know the latest on Twine Palmer. Is he in the Arizona Fall League? I didn't even know who Twine Palmer wasn't until you said his name again. I remember that. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:24 Fraber Valdez tell the Astros thanks, but no thanks to the one you're qualifying offer. Money's going to be good for him. Now, let me ask you this. Can we, we should go, you and I are on the record.
Starting point is 02:27:38 I don't think the Astros are going to miss him very much. fromber he is an arm he plays every fifth day doesn't get hurt there's value in that absolutely but as much as we appreciate the good frombor the bad fromber wasn't worth putting six years and 180 million dollars in his biggie bank i just don't think it was yeah i mean we'll see what kind of deal he gets and what they sign him to but there is a big hole in the rotation what is your rotation right after this minute hunter brown and then what uh christian havier You asked.
Starting point is 02:28:14 I'm giving you answers. It's going to mean you'll like it. Okay. I would think Spencer Erigetti is in the mix. I would think Lance McCuller's in the mix. Now, the other guys, I'm not sure how their arms are, if they've been T-J'd or not, or who's coming back. I'm so confused. I think Justin Verlander's coming back.
Starting point is 02:28:33 Oh, geez. Okay, so you're speculating a deal that hasn't happened yet. Yeah, I can do that. A 43-year-old. Yep. Number five started. Whose whip his numbers have been bad for two straight years. You had an ERA of three of the second half of last year.
Starting point is 02:28:48 Yeah, but... Hashtag, the whip was still bad, and some of the other numbers were still bad, so I'm worried about that. No, that's why maybe you get a starting pitcher back if you trade Jake Myers. Jason Alexander? Oh, I forgot about him.
Starting point is 02:29:12 Here's your what you got. You have a bona fide stealth one. Yes. You have a two who was a two before he got hurt, so now he's not really a two. And then he wasn't very good last year.
Starting point is 02:29:24 And then you got a bunch of fours and fives. That had to all of a sudden pitch that 30. Yeah, you're better with Frumber on this team than off. I'm not even close. Nobody's arguing that. But I can't shake it, Ross. And please, If he goes on and is good Framber for 90% of his remaining portion of his career,
Starting point is 02:29:48 please come at me and say, remember, Matt, you forgot about how good Framber was? I will apologize and say, yes, I forgot how good he was. But I have too much in my craw of the bad Framber to say, I'm not putting long-term contract and long-term money in front of his contract. Well, yeah, age decline can be a real thing for him. I mean, he had his worst season in like three or four seasons last year. yeah let's go to uh carroll on 790 at 142 carroll thank you for holding in good afternoon hey how are you matt uh spencer arigetti ended the season with elbow inflammation and
Starting point is 02:30:28 there's a possibility he might need tj surgery what are you the nurse you what is this what are you telling me huh hey it was it was how he ended the season well i know he didn't start he wasn't he wasn't he wasn't help I get that, but I mean, are we speaking to DJ? It was elbow inflammation. Well, he's fine now. He puts some ice on it. He's just fine. But you don't believe me. I'm just kidding. I, Carol, I don't know. Thank you for the phone call. Yeah, he did not pitch what, uh, he got hurt in like early September, right?
Starting point is 02:31:02 Yeah, it was elbow inflammation and didn't he try to come back and got hurt again or something like that? I can't keep track with all these. It's 5,000 injuries. So you're telling me, folks, I cannot count on Spencer Erigone to be ready for the start of the 2020s season? Is there no baseball god? MLB trade rumors Astros notes from two days ago says that they're supposed to be ready. Hater Alvarez, Aragetti, expected to be ready
Starting point is 02:31:24 for spring training. Oh then? Carol, relax. Everything's fine. Let's go to Stunner on 790. Hello, Stunner. Stena. What's going on, Matt? You tell me.
Starting point is 02:31:48 We're doing the day. We're amazing. Man, it's hump day for you guys. It's hump day. That is accurate. Hey, Matt. Hey, can we go after Kyle Swarver? Any way we can get that guy.
Starting point is 02:32:05 No. And, hey, man, look, if we don't go out to Burlanda, first of all, we got to. We got to check out Kate and see how she's doing. She's not the same case when Burland is with her. We don't need neither one of them. So you're telling me, you're worried about Kate Upton more than you are, Justin Verlander. Hey, yeah, because he ain't got nothing left.
Starting point is 02:32:33 You got to get something out the deal. Okay, so you're telling me only Justin Verlander comes if Kate Upton spends half the year in Houston or at least half the starts okay that's it that's the only way i take berlath okay well i'm going to presume that she would be there my wife has a picture with kate upton at an astros game a couple of years back so by the way schwarber expected to sign a five-year deal for 132 million dollars with who's 32 huh oh with a team you're just talking about expected contract or is he's a contract yeah expected contract uh fillies are the leaders in the clubhouse but however
Starting point is 02:33:15 however there is a team that might want to kick the tires on him go ahead Pittsburgh the Pittsburgh Pirates What? Yeah he might does he have Pennsylvania ties or something He is from Middletown, Ohio And how far is that from Pittsburgh And was he a pirate fan growing up?
Starting point is 02:33:38 No idea That seems like you know Ohio's close right Yeah, it's in the general vicinity You would be at the geography majors of the show Yes It looks like it's kind of far Yeah, here are the teams It's near Cincinnati
Starting point is 02:33:54 It's like a suburb of Sincey Okay, Schwerber's markets Would include Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia Angels and Marlins I think the reason why I don't think he's getting the Megadales it's because he's 32 years old. You're not putting those, you know,
Starting point is 02:34:15 you're not putting the Kyle Tucker S money on those things like that. But he hit over 50 home runs this year, right? And I think he also played, did he play a full 162 last year or two, I think? Something like that? Pretty good. Really good.
Starting point is 02:34:29 I would take him. 162, yeah, 56 home runs. 928 OPS. Woo! Oh! No, we don't need him. you get cam smith second year let's go oh jesus he's not even guaranteed a roster spot cam smith
Starting point is 02:34:47 i like cam smith banking on cam smith is a mistake wasn't that dana just trying to pump him up a little bit was he pump him up by saying he might not be on the roster that was on it was not a pump it was the anti pump up like check your ego but camsmith doesn't come across as an ego guy no no Dana brown loves to his guys and he loves his acquisition so that should give you serious pause if he's not pumping
Starting point is 02:35:12 him up. Oh, no, you brought that up. Now I'm really worried because if he's a guy that he traded for and he's not guaranteed him spot. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Oh, hell. Does that Dana Brown always be like, oh, this guy that I acquired? Yeah, he's amazing.
Starting point is 02:35:28 That's anybody, right? Any decision you make, any draft pick you make in your fantasy team, oh, this is the best player ever. Be like me saying, you know, Ross had a good year on the show, but that microphone, that's sitting in a chair. is not guaranteed but i've been saying that for 15 years you're been you're doing just fine yeah thanks 15 years i got a break i think i'm going to throw up but believe it or not is up next
Starting point is 02:35:58 the category is all things about how well do you know the cleveland cavaliers if you'd like to play 713 212 5 790 rossie if i ask people what their favorite part of the show was and they say all of it. Should we keep them on today? Should we knock those people off the air? Maybe. Do it. All right. I thought we were going to start doing it like 10.30 to surprise people. Well, that would require you doing it at 7.45. You got to let me know.
Starting point is 02:36:24 All right, tomorrow morning. 1030. Oh, crap. What's the category? You got it, Toyota. All right. So if I ask you today, I'm believing or not what your favorite part of the show was, you have to tell us. If you say all of it, or I just tuned in, are we knocking them off the air jonathan i was over and go with
Starting point is 02:36:42 i'm gonna click them off yeah oh jonathan's gonna click you off i don't even get to do it 713 212 5 790 5 minutes left to go on the show what should we do we should play america's fastest growing sports radio game show we simply call it be leaving or not it here's how it works you call 713 212 5 790 7190 713 212 7197 13212-1-2-5-790 today's edition of believe it around is all things about the Cleveland Cavaliers organization I'll read your statement about the Cavaliers statement completely
Starting point is 02:37:15 utterly accurate you'll say this me leave it if the same as erroneous full of command up you'll say this not to believe or not so in a row when you a pair of tickets to see the Cougars take on TCU senior day this Saturday November 22nd of TDUCU stadium if you don't want them from me 713 go cooks uhcougars.com or you can see a pair tickets to see Leonard Skinner and Forner on the Double Vision Double Trouble Tour. August 27th, those tickets are available on the website, Ticketmaster.com. 713-212-5-790. Jeremiah, and 7-90, ready to play, believe it or not?
Starting point is 02:37:53 Believe it. Jeremiah, good luck to you, my friend. The Cleveland Cavaliers were founded as Syracuse Nationals back in 1946 and moved to Cleveland in 1963. Believe it or not. Believe it. Nope, that's Ross making that up. Ron on 790, Ron, what was your favorite part of today's 10-2 radio show? I thought the U of H discussion was interesting.
Starting point is 02:38:18 The name Cavaliers was chosen via a newspaper fan vote, defeating the other options, the Jays, the Forrester's, and the presidents. Believe it or not? Believe it. That's correct. Statement number two for the win. Current Cavaliers majority owner, Dan Gilbert, inherited the team from his father, Sam, after his passing. in 2002. Believe it or not. Believe it.
Starting point is 02:38:41 No, he purchased it all by himself in 2005. Rubin on 790. Rubin, you're ready to play Believe it or not? Believe it. Mike Brown's 272 head coaching wins are the most by any Cavaliers head coach. 272. Believe it or not? Believe it. No, Lenny Wilkins won 316. Icaron 790. You ready to play believe it or not?
Starting point is 02:39:06 believe it the official colors of the Cleveland Cavaliers are metallic gold black and wine believe it or not God that's a believe it
Starting point is 02:39:16 thank you the plank Bill what was your favorite part today's 10-2 radio show the traffic report LeBron James the Cavaliers' all-time winning score second is Zildrunas
Starting point is 02:39:31 Ilgoskis believe it or not shoot that's a good one believe it believe it statement number two for the win uh in 20203 cleveland brown's pass rusher miles garrett purchased a minority stake in the clit cavaliers believe it or not not they did bye see you and on that we end the show today up next it is wexler it's clinton it's the a team i'll talk to you for rockets basketball here from cleveland at six on sports talk I'm gonna what she's going to

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