The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - The Matt Thomas Show 10-31-19

Episode Date: October 31, 2019

The Matt Thomas Show w/ @SportsMT, @SportsRV, and @ProNickLow 10/31/19Coping with the Astros loss in Game 7 of the World Series (0:00)The Rockets win in the 3rd highest scoring game in NBA History (30...:29)Surprise Believe It Or Not (55:31)Worst moments in Houston Sports History (1:04:27)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Much larger than life. Yeah. Lunch timers is the Matt Thomas show. 1202 in Houston. What's happened to lunch timers? It's a Thursday edition of the Matt Thomas show here from New York City. Hello, darkness, my old friend. I've come to talk with you again.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Because a vision softly creeping And this one's cranked the left field And that's going to put the nationals on the board With Rendon's shot to left field. It's two to one. A change up, he waited back on it, low and in, and he golfed it into the seats and left. Put the nationals on the board.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Stamble in restless dreams I walk to win if the Astros hold on. This pitch is lifted down the right. field line a long way out there and it hits the foul pole opposite field Homer for the nationals and they lead three to two opposite field howie kendrick right field and rbi i single that's four to two nationals won soto's second hit springer over to it quickly but not quickly enough as heaton will score soto and rbi single that's four to two nationals Juan Soto's second hit of the night and his seventh rbi of the world series and that's line up the middle and the center of base hit gohm scores balls Bobble by mariznick now roblis will score and the nationals lead at six to two
Starting point is 00:02:11 Adamie will get at least one rbi on that as a nationals trying to move closer to a championship. Silence like the Redmond again. Swing in a mess. Grantley strikes out and congratulations to the
Starting point is 00:02:30 Washington Nationals. They are World Series champions. They did a great job. They really did. Really tough for this Astros organization, this team. Tough to handle. Especially that this team won
Starting point is 00:02:45 117 times this year. They're going to have to wait till next year now to take it back. 117 wins. And no ring. Hey, Ross, when I asked you for a final score of last night's game on the show yesterday, what did you say? I said the 6-2 national. I had a bad feeling in my gut.
Starting point is 00:03:24 It just didn't seem like now. My feeling was a little bit off. I felt like Grinky might have been a little bit shaky and giving up a couple. I said the bullpen was going to give up a couple, which they did. And Scherzer was going to be good, which he was. I just felt like the bats were so snake bit in so many left-on-based situations or runners-in-scoring positions situations that I felt like it was probably going to continue. And unfortunately, I didn't want to.
Starting point is 00:03:50 to be right, Matthew. I wanted to be oh so wrong, but it wasn't. The standard for being a good Major League hitter is having an OPS of 800. That's on base plus logging, okay? The Astros over the course of the season, and to a much smaller extent in the postseason, were littered with guys that had 900, 950, 975, over 1,000 in some particular cases. The World Series that just completed its action yesterday in our Fair City. Yordon Alvarez, OPS of 1100, George Springer OPS of 1100, Martin Maldonado, a very small sample size, an OPS of almost 1100.
Starting point is 00:04:34 The drop-off is dramatic after that. Yuleiguriel 838, Jake Mariznick 819, and then it gets into the sevens, it gets to the sixes, and to our hero of the American League Championship Series, Jose Altuve with an OPS of 688. It was painful. It was really, really painful. I don't need to really express more than that. I'm going to assume Rossi, and you were listening to our station, obviously, a lot of the night as you were getting back from wherever you were doing and listened to shows this morning. I'm going to say that the pie chart of where to blame, my guess is a lot of it goes to the,
Starting point is 00:05:14 fact that Gary Cole did not pitch yesterday. Oh, God. My guess is a lot of it is that I'm sure my man from a spring call Larry and said that the Astros aren't taking the pitch and going with the outside pitch. He literally did just call. Did he? He called in the trenches and said that the Astros don't play sound baseball. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I'm going to assume there is quite a few fire hinge calls coming in, which is just don't, let me be really brutally honest with you. Don't embarrass yourself. I'm trying to save you from embarrassment. Do you want to be mad that AJ Hinch did not go with Garrett Cole? Okay, I'll accept that. I was, you know, frankly, startled that you would warm him up and then not use him. And I know the argument and the justification from AJ was that he only wanted to come in with a lead.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Well, desperate times call for desperate measures. I don't think you warm up Garrett Cole and then he doesn't take them out and somehow, some way, any point of the contest, even if there was traffic on the base pass, even if it was in middle of the inning. That wouldn't have been supreme. But what he did, what AJ did is he went with his best reliever. And his best reliever had a horrific performance in the most important game of the year. See, that's the thing with me, Matt. I am actually more with if people want to say, hey, Zach Rinkie was dealing, or you pulled them too fast or whatever, and all that type of stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I'm more with that one than, oh, my gosh, I can't believe you didn't use Garrett. Cole. Why is it that every single person who is second-guessing this move is, it's almost like a bunch guy who assumes it works out every time. And if you watch a game last night, you know it didn't. Why is it that we are assuming that Garrett Cole, for the first time in his professional career, comes on in relief, for the first time in his professional career, comes on with only two days' rest, and for the first time in his professional career would come in in in a non-clean inning situation that he's just going to come in and shut everything down and throw 40 or 50 pitches and just dazzle everybody.
Starting point is 00:07:16 We don't know that. We do know that Will Harris was nails for AJ Hinch down the stretch. We know that he was great throughout the postseason and we know that he's been getting, we were talking, or I, at least I was personally, talking about him as a dark horse
Starting point is 00:07:32 candidate for World Series MVP. That's how good he had been. So I can't fault AJ Hinch for saying this has been my guy, I'm going to my guy, rather than the unknown of Garrett Cole, on two days rest in relief for the first time ever. Yeah, my thought is, Ross, and I 100% agree with everything you said,
Starting point is 00:07:52 I would have liked to have at least seen it. And I think that's fair for anybody to discuss. But to say that things would have been different or guaranteed success off of the fact that Garrett Cole would have come in for the first time in his career on short rest to relieve to get as many outs as the Astros would have needed from him is preposterous. So it can't be today, at least for my three hours, it can't be if Garrett pitches, the Astros are celebrating a World Series championship.
Starting point is 00:08:22 The if-then statement there is far from valid. Right. I will defend the, Matt, why didn't they give them a chance? I can live through that. I can discuss that with you, and I can agree with you on that. But I cannot go under the preface of, if Garrett comes in, things are different. It is asking someone that has never done it before to do it in the most dramatic situations possible with a guy that had just finished pitching and basically left everything on the floor just two days beforehand.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Yeah, I mean, and I'm with it, look, if you really want to discuss it and that's what's upsetting you and you think that that was a huge blunder or whatever, I guess I get it. But also, or not only want to say huge blunder. If you think that he should have made a different decision, okay, we can argue that point. I disagree. But also, you can't come with that. That's a fireable offense from this. I'm going to be very brilliant. I'm going to interrupt you.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I'm sorry, Ross, but let me just tell you this. If you go to your Twitter, Twitter, or you go to your buddies or your Facebook page, and you have fire hinch. I've already gotten at least three of them. You're not very bright when it comes to baseball. You might be smarting chemistry. you might be an attorney, you might be a great accountant, you might be the most amazing humanitarian in the world.
Starting point is 00:09:46 You don't know baseball if you're asking for the manager to be fired in this particular situation, or for that matter, any situation who's taking a baseball team to Game 7 of the World Series. You just don't know baseball. And that's okay, because guess what, Ross? I don't know how to change a tire. I don't know how to nail things into a wall. I got you, man.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I'll help you out. I'm a very average cook at best. But what I do know is, if you're going to fire Hinchcard, you do not know baseball. And I have zero problem telling you that. Just like you'd have zero problem saying, hey, Matt, why don't you go in the laboratory and create a perfume for a multimillion-dollar cosmetic company? I cannot do that. But what I can do is tell you is that you're not going to gain any credibility. with me ever, if that is your lead dog threat.
Starting point is 00:10:42 The reasons why the Astros lost the World Series are plentiful. And we'll start running through reasons after this. 713-212-5-790. Darrell Mori here. Let's go rock this is the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 790. Just wanted to get a little bit more clarity why you decided to take Granky out. so early was at the Rendon home right? Yeah, I'm not sure it was early.
Starting point is 00:11:17 You know, it was in the seventh inning, and he was getting up into the 80s. We asked him to do more today than he had done and pitched deeper into the game more than he had done in the entire month of October. You can run on for a long time. Run on for a long time. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:11:36 this is going to stink for a while. As Johnny would say. So, We're going to be here for a while. We ain't going anywhere. We're here noon to three every day. Sports talk, seven innings, except the weekends. Ross has a vacation time coming up.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I do as well. But other than that, we're going to be here for each other. And tomorrow we have a heavy football focus because what we've done today, frankly, has moved everything. All my Dr. Roto, all my college stuff, a Joel Clatt. We're going to do all that tomorrow. But today's just a day for us to mourn. I mean, that's just it. I mean, it's sad.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And Ross, the weirdest part of it all, as I told you, it was going to be, was being in Washington, D.C. As soon as the Rockets game it ended, they put the Nationals Astros game on the big screen, and I'm with 11,000 national fans in this building where I'm hoping that something can materialize for the Astros. Meanwhile, with every out recorded by the Nationals, the cheers are getting louder and louder and louder.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Then the extra base hits, and then they're up, you know, 6'2. It was, as I tweeted out last night, I couldn't get out of D.C. fast enough yesterday, because that town was celebrating like you wouldn't believe last night. Yeah, that had to be, I mean, that was somewhat surreal experience for you, correct? Yeah. No, it was, it's some, it's, I don't know, it would be like Ross, it'd be like you going to an OU alum party to watch OU Texas. You just couldn't hide.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I was at an Aggie party in College Station once when I was watching Texas play Kansas State. And that game, Colt McCoy got hurt, and Jevin Sneed had to come in. Yeah. And he rest in peace. That was not pleasant. I nearly got into two different fights, but that was, you know. It would be like... It would be like being a Trump supporter at a Democratic convention.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I mean, I... Like while the election's going down or, I mean, or flipped, like a Hillary supporter at some kind of Trump convention while the election is going down? I don't... And I'm sure most people have been through a situation similar to what I went through. I mean, like, you know, whether you're at a... And I think the easiest one... one is going to a party with a bunch of people of the team that you don't want to win.
Starting point is 00:13:48 But mine was just so odd because I'm in this major big arena. And I said 11,000. I don't know how many people stuck around. But I mean, as soon as the Rockets won last night, it was put the big screen out. Let's go. All the banners in the arena, you know, the electrical banners had national stuff on. They were doing that dumbass baby shark song. I mean, I got on the bus to go to the airport.
Starting point is 00:14:12 I'm like, this is my safe space. I couldn't handle being out there with all these people that were just, they could sense it. They were going to win the World Series. And they did. And they did. And here we are. I did do any overnight shows. I didn't sleep well, I mean, honestly.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I didn't get to go to Academy, hang out with people. Yeah, you didn't get to meet that special someone at 1.45 of the morning. That was never on the table mat. Okay, that's true. I had church at 8 a.m. this morning. That's my boy. 713-212-5-790. It's you, it's me, it's Ross, it's Nick.
Starting point is 00:14:54 No guest today. I don't need to hear a third-person perspective on this. We know what we saw. We know what we watched. We know what we were disappointed with. So today is for you to vent, cry, laugh, think about next year. And oh, by the way, can I do this? And I got to be honest again, because, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:12 I like to be honest in the show. The behavior of Garrett Cole to the Media Relations Department of the Houston Astros was awful yesterday. If everything that I have been alerted to is accurate, how, and I don't mean to peel back the current, but I'm going to do it. Garrett Cole was asked by Astros Media Relations to speak to the media. And again, I'm not going to put the exact words out there. Most people have tweeted. It's been tweeted out. It's come out. I'm not doing this as an Asteroom.
Starting point is 00:15:44 And again, help me in the paraphrasing, Ross, on this. But it was basically, I'm going to do this because Garrett Cole wants to do it. I'm not going to do it because I'm an astro pitcher named Garrett Cole. He says, I'm not an employee of the team. I'm not an employee of the team, apparently, but he'll do it as a representative of himself. And then he wore the Scott Boris cap. Hmm. I mean, just, look, let's be really, really honest.
Starting point is 00:16:07 He's really pissed at AJ, okay? He really is. because the conversation came into play where he was going to pitch, he goes and warms up in the bullpen, and then isn't used, and then he knows the entire world staring at him. And he's watching this bullpen, which has been really good for this postseason, implode, and he's helpless. But I just, you know what, it was hard enough as it is to be in that room.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Could you imagine being a teammate of Gary Cole, loving everything that he's done? And then he puts the Boris hat on. I mean, if you didn't want to wear the Astros cap, All right, I'll accept that. But you don't, but it was just like, hey, bitches, look, I'm a free agent now. I literally, when we got the 27th out and we lost, I was done, Gonzo. I just, I thought it was a bad look. I hadn't caught that detail.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I didn't even know that until you just mentioned it, that he was, I saw the hat and I didn't know what that was. I saw the bee on it and I was actually wondering what that was or what the logo was. I did not know. That was a Scott. He's not wearing an Astros jersey. or anything orange at all. And then he's wearing a Scott Boris hat. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:18 He's done here, gang. Yeah, he's done. And I love him. Loved his work. Plotted him. Would have loved him seeing him play yesterday. But damn, that clubhouse was down. And please, let's not be naive to the fact that Garrett Cole knew exactly what he was doing.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I just thought it was a bad look. 713-212. to 570. Let's go to Tom and downtown at 1224. Hi, Tom. Hey, Matt. Really, really love the show. You guys kick the other station's tail.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Matt, you just, your knowledge is so much better. It's unbelievable. Thank you. What an incredible year this year. Anybody that says anything for about AJ Hink, like you said, has no clue. He is a mastermind. This will make him better.
Starting point is 00:18:07 It hurts. It's brutal, but it will make him better. My question is this. I want this team to be the dynasty, you know, and that's the thing that hurts the most is that hopefully that won't be stopped. How do we keep Garrett Cole? I know there was a bad look at. It's not happening. It's not even a conversation.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Is it a possibility of, I mean, letting Verlander go for another pitcher? And, I mean, he's got more treadlines. No, no, no. And I want to keep everybody. I want to lose anybody. But I'm just saying, is that better for the team if we do that? Well, I mean, it's obviously better than team. Garrett Cole is greater than Justin Verlanner is greater than Zach Granky.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Okay? But it's not about what happened yesterday. It's not about what happened in the use of the bullpen. It's not about what happened with Verlanner in the World Series. The bottom line is, and I've said this for weeks now, I don't believe there's any way in the world, Tom, that the Houston Astros are going to spend over $100 million on three baseball pitchers. It's just not in the formula.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Oh, I agree with you. I guess. I'm like, it's picture poisoned, and I'm like, if I got a pick, you know, I mean, I think that he's been arguably the best picture this year, you know, for us, and the most dominant, and he's 29. And that's why I'm like, man, it's like, it's like getting a great quarterback for the football team. I mean, those are hard to come by, you know, and he doesn't want to stay in Houston. Does he not like Houston? No, it's not a question of not liking it. It's a question of he has a chance to be the highest paid player pitcher in baseball.
Starting point is 00:19:40 and I think he has not hidden the fact that he would like to go back to the left coast where he went to college and have an opportunity to pitch perhaps for one of the West Coast teams. I don't think, I think enough rumors are out there that he is looking forward to this.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Remember, this is the first time, Tom, that he's ever been able to test for agency as he's been a six-year major league veteran. And there are numerous reports that especially a team like the Los Angeles Angels are cash and are ready to spend some serious cash on a front-line pitcher get them back in contention to win the American League West,
Starting point is 00:20:13 and Garrett Cole would certainly be that person. Yeah, he would. He would. Well, for what it's worth, I was the first time the season taken hold of this year. My kids just had a blast this year. I'm a product of the 80s, and the 86 Rockets was my favorite team of all time,
Starting point is 00:20:30 and I'm hopeful that they'll remember this season. Like, I still remember that season. And so... Yeah, thank you, Tom, for the folk. I've got some other folks that get to. and great memories. That's a great, one of my all-time favorite teams. I mean, 2017 Trump's that,
Starting point is 00:20:45 because obviously it's a World Series championship. This one isn't far behind. This one's not far behind. And it's almost like Ross, it's one of my all-time favorites because not only were they good, but the Astros were the favorites. The Astros were, this is a disappointment.
Starting point is 00:20:59 They were supposed to win the World Series. If the Nationals lost the game last night, Ross, they would have said, it sucked. But damn, we gave the Houston Astros a run for their money, We won three games in their building, and we went to game seven with them after almost not even winning the wild car game against the Milwaukee Brewers. They would have been a lot more upbeat on their loss that I think we are here in Houston today. Yeah, I mean, you definitely lose the favorite.
Starting point is 00:21:25 And to me, it's interesting because in 17, remember, the Dodgers were the favorite. I think I picked in that series, like Dodgers in five or something like that. I mean, they just had so much talent. But remember in that series, I mean, you had so many key moments, a game five, obviously, the Marwin Gonzalez. Hall's home run in game two and the relief performances by Charlie Morton, all those types of things. It was one of those things where everything just broke the Astros way and it just seems like this series, everything broke the Nationals way. 713-212-5-790.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Cougars coach Kelvin Sampson here, your town, your teams, your voice all day. This is Sports Talk 790. You're home for Houston Sports. After all you went through physically the last few days, what does that? this means I'm part of the greatest team in 2019 these guys they battle didn't matter it was staying in the fight that was our model it was the next guy up everybody gave it their all whoever it was always going to produce and we took it all the way and we want to be on the whole thing we're on a dusty black coach with a red right hand we play some odd music on the show
Starting point is 00:22:37 I got to be honest with you it's Halloween man yeah I'm in no booke what are you dressing up as Matt Talk show host? No, I shouldn't say angry. Disappointed. But I am going on on the town tonight, so just so. Oh, you are? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Are you going to wear a costume? You can buy a quick one. Where's the Halloween shop in New York? I would think every convenience store here in New York has a convenience as a Halloween. Wouldn't you think, right? I don't know. You can buy like a bodega?
Starting point is 00:23:08 You can buy video cameras, coax, cigarettes, and Halloween costumes. A box of stray cats. You just get a, uh, you just get a, uh, a bodegaa. white t-shirt and goes mr clean okay microphone off the rest of the show for you by the way again i want to make sure everybody knows that i think all women should have the word naughty in front of their costumes you're not you're not doing it right if you are not naughty something right i thought it was sexy no no no no no sexy is that's just that's not hiding it if you're naughty that means just it just leaves um you imagine
Starting point is 00:23:47 to let you go a little while. Okay. Just saying. Your imagination. Maybe. It is the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 790. I'm here in New York, where we were able to get on the plane, get to New York here quickly, where I got to turn on the TV and watch one Washington National interviewer interview after the other on ESPN.
Starting point is 00:24:11 And again, and again, and again. So that's what we're here for. We are your therapist today and we'll take you to 3 o'clock this afternoon at 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-2-2-5-7-9. In terms of the longest way, David is in Kingwood on 7-90. Hi, David. Thanks for holding. How are y'all doing?
Starting point is 00:24:33 Good. Yeah, considering, right? Sure. Yeah, I'm going to vent just a little bit and then leave you guys with a question. Real quick, first off, your show is. is fantastic. Thank you. It's probably the best one I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I've been listening to Sports Talk for 20 years, at least. But anyway, that being said, yeah, I was completely beside myself last night. I was miserable. I mean, it sounds stupid to some people that don't understand it, but I actually woke up a couple of times thinking about the Astros falling behind and then eventually losing. I kept turning the TV off. and back on and change the channels,
Starting point is 00:25:19 and I was just completely miserable. And, I mean, I was, I heard somebody's son earlier that they were so proud of the job that Greeny had done. And I felt the exact same way. I was pulling for him so hard. And I thought, because so many people, so many, you know, supposed professional sports analysts and other media folks and sports, you know, radio hosts and whatnot,
Starting point is 00:25:46 were just ragging the hell out of poor for Zach and I thought he did a better job than any single pitcher up to, you know, the early seventh inning than anybody had done in any other series. I mean, he was just fantastic. He had only given up one hit. And you guys already know all this.
Starting point is 00:26:06 They only given up one hit on into the seventh inning. And then he had that hiccup. And then walked the guy and I thought, well, maybe it's time to start thinking about pulling him, but, I mean, you have all these people that call in and talk bad about A.J. Hanch and calling for him being fired and all this. That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I mean, he is a brilliant manager. There's no two ways about it. Well, I don't think, again, I want to tell you this. And thank you very much of the phone call and the nice words, and I do appreciate you listening. I don't think there is a majority of the people that are asking for a fireball. I mean, when you lose a game, you always ask what a coach would be fired. That comes to the small segment of the territory. I'm just telling you, I don't respect you if you ask that, if you say that.
Starting point is 00:26:52 I just don't. That's just the truth. I don't respect your baseball acumen if you ask if you are running to your social media accounts or this radio show or your buddies at the bar tonight and telling everybody that AJ Hint should be fired. That just means you don't know sports. That's just a brutal truth. I can agree with that. I mean, maybe Matt, if we want to be like as nice as possible, we could forgive, hey, and heat of the moment, you said this and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:27:19 But if you were going on a crusade, like all off season, that A.J. Hinge is holding this team back, and he's the reason they didn't win the World Series. I'm totally on board with you. It's just the wrong take. We can have disagreements, and we can say, hey, maybe he made a misstep here and there, but to call any of them fireable, like he's some kind of bumbling fool. I mean, we went through bumbling fools here. We don't need to name names with the Astro.
Starting point is 00:27:44 That was the first name that came to my mind. Let me tell you something. If you, again, if you want to call me and say, Matt, why didn't AJ at least throw Garrett out there? I can accept. I will accept that. I'm okay with that. And let me tell you something. I know AJ okay.
Starting point is 00:28:03 We're not besties, but I do have a relationship with him because he's on with us weekly. I'm guaranteeing you, he is laying in his bed right now or in his easy chair. and he's wrestling with the fact that that decision was one that ultimately cost him. Remember Ross two weeks ago when we had him on during the championship series and I said, how good does it feel when everything you decide is right? And no matter what decisions he made, Ross, it does come down to player execution. At the end of the day, Will Harris was your best reliever this year. Better than Osuna, better than Presley,
Starting point is 00:28:40 Will Harris, just about every single time, you asked him to help this baseball team. He helped. And he failed yesterday. Yeah, if he'd have went out in there and said, you know what, I got a feeling in my gut. It's Hector Rondone time. I would be like, you know what, Hitch needs to be out on his ass.
Starting point is 00:28:57 That's not what happened. It was Harris, reliable. Osuna, good through the playoffs. Presley was one of your best relievers down the stretch. Joe Smith has been nails in the playoffs, and Jose Arcitti was great in his one start. So those are the guys he went to. Those are guys he should all be able to rely on, and hardly any of them came through for him.
Starting point is 00:29:15 He did not overthink this. What he thought his philosophy was, and again, I'd like to be able to save Garrett Cole Pitt. Again, if you can promise me, because you are the almighty baseball god, that Garrett Cole on short rest pitching on the bullpen for the first time in his career would have gotten you eight outs. Two days rest, yes. Two days rest, excuse me. That would have been the end. Ender? Okay. I'm frankly
Starting point is 00:29:42 Rossi. I'm going to have more nightmares about Carlos Correa striking on. I'm going to have more nightmares about the Jose Al-2-way that I love that didn't perform well in the postseason. I'm going to have nightmares about left-on base, runners in scoring position. That's going to haunt me
Starting point is 00:29:58 more of the 2019 postseason, really, than anything that was done in game seven. And how about this, man? I mean, this is just speculating. If people can speculate that he would have been lights out, I can speculate this. What if he threw out the bullpen and said, you know what, I'm not feeling 100%, but I'll give you what I got.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Or what if he threw in the bullpen and Javier Bracamante or whoever's down there or bullpen coach is saying, hey, you know what? He looks like he doesn't necessarily have his best stuff. What if that was the case? And that's one of the reasons he didn't go with him. Yeah, that's a bunch of what it could have should have. That's for sure. This is James
Starting point is 00:30:30 Arden. It goes to hard, three to shoot, jacks up a three hits. This is the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 7-90. Are you kidding? It's two different size of a spectrum. You look at Rendon who has no heartbeat. I mean, he's just the same guy every day, every play, every second. And then you look at Soto, who's a 20-year-old, well, 21-year-old now, sorry.
Starting point is 00:30:51 He had his first beer tonight, which is kind of nice. But you look at a 21-year-old kid that's just out there just having fun. Like he's playing stickball in the backyard. I mean, that's who he is. I mean, he loves, he loves the moments. He loves going up there and picking up his teammates. I put a spell on you. Acro Media laugh
Starting point is 00:31:13 Hey, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Oh, by the way, he's 21 years old. Jesus. He ha, ha, ha, ha. Baseball media are so stuffy. God, it's just awful. That is kind of cool that his first beer is a World Series championship beer.
Starting point is 00:31:38 I mean, let's be honest. That's a lie. He's had beer before. Trust me. No, I think they didn't they, wasn't there a story? Like, that he was kind of holding off until they celebrated or something like that? I don't believe it if he did Okay
Starting point is 00:31:48 He'd be anything he had one when he was like 60 Yeah you're probably right You're probably right Why don't you tell the audience You're not going to have sex until you get married Yeah I am saving myself for marriage Matthew See? Same bit I'm making sweet love to Jesus
Starting point is 00:32:05 Okay Fair enough I don't think he wants you to do that Ross No By the way we heard a sound bite And I know this is not going to get any run today Rossi I called a four-quarter basketball game yesterday.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Oh, my gosh. Yes. With 317 points. I was, that's more than the Wilts Chamberlain a hundred-point game. Ross, I know the Rockets want to me to, it's been a while since I've called the game.
Starting point is 00:32:32 I just didn't realize I was going to call 112 made baskets. You know what? I'm glad you brought that up, man. I went to ask you, are you tired? Are you fatigued?
Starting point is 00:32:41 And really, you have never, I'm guessing, have never, ever, ever seen or called a basketball game like that. I have never in my life. life. I've called triple and quadruple overtime games in college. I don't know if I've ever done a
Starting point is 00:32:53 triple overtime game of the pros. I have never in my life called a fourth quarter, four quarter game, just four, regulation, with that many points. And it was funny. And again, we'll get back to the Astro stuff in just a second. I had Eric Gordon on the post game show with me yesterday. And I'm like, I said, and you don't normally ever throw the, what was that card at him? But I did. I said, Eric, what was that? He goes, oh, my God, I'm so embarrassed. We get to the hotel here in New York, and Tyson Chandler and I are in the same elevator.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I'm like, what are you thinking? He goes, I'm embarrassed. The Rockets won the game rolls, but they're sick to their stomach, how bad it was. How you would give up 158 points in a single 48-minute stretch. Thank God they won.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Yeah, because that game was, it was looking dire. I had two TVs going, and I had that one on, but I had the sound on the baseball, so I only really was keeping half an eye on it. All I was basically doing was score checking with that. And it was just, I thought they were going to lose that game, too, but they ended up pulling it out. But 62% field goals? 56. The Washington Wizards make 63% of their field goals shots.
Starting point is 00:34:09 56% of their three point shots. And they lost. 83% of their free throws. And they still lost. How do you lose that? You know how you lose it? For any of you, and this is Adam Clinton, if you're listening, they were hesitant about what it would be like to try to root for Russell Westbrook as a Houston rocket.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Rossi, it's really, really easy. He's phenomenal. The tip back off of the Hardin miss he had, the three-point play. I mean, look, Hardin was amazing in himself, 59 points last night. but Westbrook who I think didn't score for like almost a half was so damn gritty out there this team is going to drive you nuts but right now they're winning and it's certainly very very interesting as interesting as a four-game stretch could be for a team in the late October early November stretch he was fun rockets were good and most importantly they got their
Starting point is 00:35:08 mojo back they made 23 three pointers yesterday they had had no more than 13 in any of the three games. Well, you know, Matt, my key to a win was make a three, so I'm glad that they listened to me. Well, thank God the key to victory came through there. Let's go back on the phones in terms of longest wait. We'll go to Fasio in the gallery on the Matt Thomas show. Fasio, good afternoon. Matt, I certainly hope you're having a very successful day, two comments here. How are you guys doing? We're good, thank you. Excellent. So everybody likes a gift with a bow on it, confetti, balloon. And in 2015, the Astros were given a gift by Major League Baseball because of Harvey.
Starting point is 00:35:54 That way, it would bring up the, everybody would be happy because we, and I'm the resident of Houston, so I love the Astros. But the fact is, is that the Astros should never have won the World Series. It was a gift. It was the Dodgers that should have won 2015. Now, the room were, I mean, in 2017. The rumor when the Astros won is the whole city said, I can't believe we won the World Series. Now that they lost, we say we can't believe we lost.
Starting point is 00:36:25 We lost because we should have won this one. We actually had the talent this time. But now the gift was given to the Nationals. Remember, folks, when I'm on remote meeting here in New York City, that I do give editorial control over it to Pro Nick Lowe and the raw. So. To do to do as long as me. Someone who love you.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Honestly, when he couldn't get the years right, I kind of lost track of things. The Major League Baseball gifted the Astros, the 2017 World Series. What? Yeah, that's a troll job. That's fine. Yeah. I'm okay. I mean, because you know what?
Starting point is 00:37:23 Normally sometimes people listen to the show like, Matt, what's going to happen with a call today that Matt's going to lose his mind? Because I occasionally lose my mind on the show. I mean, not a lot of evidence of it, but I do occasionally. I am so mentally exhausted about what happened in the series and the fact that I was calling a game with 320 points or whatever it was. 317. That's incredible.
Starting point is 00:37:46 There's very little that's going to make me go, oh, my God, I can't believe what I just heard. I was just not in the mood for sports last night. I was going to go back and watch it. I'll watch it tonight. and then I'll be able to report back, Matt. 713-212-1-2-5-790. Let's say hi to Point-Dexter on 7-90. Point-dexter, what do you got today?
Starting point is 00:38:08 You know, everybody was thinking that Coach should have been, you know, above the prey. And, you know, you've already talked about Hitch making the decision, you know, not to play him. And, you know, there's nothing wrong with Hent. He's one of the best managers you could have. But the thing was that you could see with the men left on base and everything, you know, the energy was kind of like getting sucked out of the building. And I would think if they would have put cold in the game, it would have kind of re-energized. If he'd have played, you know, if he'd play the inning and you bring in, you know, your big guns, you bring in Harris, you're bringing your big, you know, the regular ones. But at that time, it seemed like, you know, the building, you know, the Al was getting sucked out the building.
Starting point is 00:38:58 And I just think it would have just re-energize the crowd, you know, re-energize the atmosphere. You know, like I said, I'm not the one because just like you're saying, you know, I'll go somewhere, man. And you get this food talking about, oh, they need to fire this person. They need to do this here, man. Astros had the best team. They got beat by a team that was hot, you know. I don't know if it's team of destiny stuff or whatever. And, you know, you can put things under microscope.
Starting point is 00:39:26 At the time, I was looking to see cold in the game, you know, because like I said, it seems like the energy was getting, you know, it needs something to just re-energize, you know. Yeah, thank you, point, Dexter. Very good point. Yeah, and I wasn't, obviously, I wasn't at the game yesterday. Ross, you watch every second of it. I mean, it always feels deflating.
Starting point is 00:39:44 When you have runners at second and third or first and third and less than two outs, and the left on base number just kept growing. and growing and growing. That absolutely deflates the crowd. I don't care if you're playing the game in Washington or in Houston or in Bora Bora. You get all that traving on the base passing and get nothing out of it. And it does hurt. It hurts bad.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Yeah, you probably don't want my perspective. I was just like, it's been so bad in so many key moments that I actually was it, expect nothing to happen most of the time. When Coray in the 5th and when he got that single to knock in, was it Yuley, I think, I was shocked, honestly, because Carl's Corray hadn't been coming up big in those situations. Nobody had been coming up big in those situations. My expectations became so low with runners in scoring position because I got so conditioned and I'm not coming through. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:34 And I will agree with point X. I was a good point. Maybe Garrett going one, two, three in a very unfamiliar situation, him pumping his fist, saying, you know what, I can do this. I'm on short rest. My arm's done. I've got nothing left in the tank, but I'm still going to give you what I have left,
Starting point is 00:40:52 whatever I have left, that can fire it up. I think it's a very fair point. Now, again, being fired up and executing our two different things, you know, so, again, I would have loved to be able to come to y'all and say, if Garrett pitches, it's a different situation. But we have no evidence of it whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Remember when Dallas-Kiko Ross was talked about, remember when 2015 against the Royals, how will Dallas be a very event? for the bully if necessary and he came in I don't know what the exact situation was because it was also enough four years ago but he didn't help the cause coming out of the bullpen sometimes it works sometimes it's amazing and sometimes it just falls flat because you're asking people that are out of gas to give you just a little bit more and you're more importantly doing it in a scenario where they're not accustomed to and if
Starting point is 00:41:41 you've listened to this radio show for any length of time you guys know how I feel about baseball players they are creatures of habit they are full of routines and Garrett Cole's routine is never to come out of the bullpen like he was almost used yesterday. I do think of special situations require special circumstances and that's why I would have loved to have seen it because to point Xer's point maybe you do get a one, two, three. Maybe he does strike out one or two batters and maybe you get this crowd and I and at Ross they weren't comatose. They were just I could just only see it because I'm calling the game and looking during commercial breaks, but I'm assuming it was. was a crowd that was always up on their feet, always ready to jump and pounce on something, and they just couldn't do enough of it.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Yeah, it seemed like the crowd was into it, and the crowd wasn't a letdown or anything like that. It's just, as we've seen, the home crowd didn't seem to mean much, especially in this series. They just couldn't, the baths couldn't get going, no matter how much anybody cheers for them. They can't go out there and make them hit. Yeah, and by the way, we'll never worry about home field advantage over again, because it's very, very overrated now, extraordinarily overrated. first time in any series in any sport i think ross is what i saw the number this morning that a home team did not win a single game in the series that's world series NBA championship
Starting point is 00:42:57 stanley cup anything that's got a series not a single one ever was not to win a home game crazy crazy stuff is the matt thomas show i wanted to take him out in any or a batter too early rather than a batter too late. You know, Kendrick and Cabrera was where I had really focused on Will Harris at that point. Will's been tremendous for us. I knew I had Osuna. I knew I had, you know, Gary, if need be. And so Will coming in to spend the breaking ball, he got the swing and miss,
Starting point is 00:43:44 and then he hit a ball off the foul pole and right field and off they go. So it's a decision you, you know, I'll have to live with. I'll think about it. And I don't know what would have happened had I left him in. But that was kind of where I targeted based on where the game was going and what we had available to us. a lot of good friendships. Obviously, learned a lot about pitching from my teammates, from the pitching coaches and pitching staff. You know, learned a lot more about the game from AJ, and it was just a pleasure to play in the city of Houston. That's not fun.
Starting point is 00:44:23 How it got wrenching is this? What's not fun. How got wrenching is this? What's not fun? How got wrenching is this? What's not fun? your favorite garrick cole is an astro moment i know i usually say that for twitter but hearing and more importantly seeing what he's wearing after the game wasn't the sign of a guy that
Starting point is 00:44:51 was going to come back and pay for the houston astros in 2020 we got other time to worry about that we're hearing the we're about the here and the now as we welcome you to the second hour of the matt thomas show i'm matt thomas here in new york ross is back in our houston studios alongside our producer nick low you guys are welcome to join us 713212.5 790 713 212 5790 Ross is there anything in the first hour we've not addressed the AJ stuff the Granky being pulled
Starting point is 00:45:22 he was excellent by the way we didn't actually really get into that he's fantastic he was everything that you wanted when you got him July 31st it's game 7 the world series and he's giving up one run with low pitch count and Dealin and giving your team that was offensively challenged a chance to win the World Series.
Starting point is 00:45:43 It was like he was playing, like they were doing pitcher defensive drills where the coach is just hitting grounders to the pitcher and then allowing him to throw to first base for practice. That's what it looked like. It looked like they were just running drills. He was pitching so well and everything was just a soft comebacker after soft comebacker. And a couple of them he was making really good plays as well.
Starting point is 00:46:05 I mean, it was just surreal to watch the way after, he struggled sometimes in the playoffs and we know his playoff track record and all that type of stuff game seven at home World Series he's dealing he's having the game of his life he's showing off the gold glove defense and everything like that and then just to have
Starting point is 00:46:24 it all come crashing down tell me what was what were people doing when AJ went to go get him because I was only on past tense on Twitter so I really yeah Twitter I think Twitter for the most part wanted him to continue to pitch but he had just given up the home run to Rondone and then he
Starting point is 00:46:41 allowed another base runner so I mean I my initial thought when I saw AJ Hinch going out there I was like wow this seems a little early because he was only at like 80 pitches so for him to go get him then I thought was a little bit early but you bring in you're bringing in
Starting point is 00:46:57 Will Harris. AJ Hinch just said it Will Harris had been nails for him the entire playoffs right it wasn't like he went and got Josh James out there now if he got Josh James I'm ready for flipping tables over and saying AJ Hinch, what are you drinking? Right. And here's the thing. You probably
Starting point is 00:47:15 could have gone with Will or Osuna and been fine with that. But the moment was... Joe Smith had been good as well. Yeah, but it was 2-1 runner at first. Right, yeah, yeah. You're thinking Howie Kendrick were a nationally
Starting point is 00:47:31 championship hero, wild card hero. Yeah, yeah. It was as high leverage of a situation as possible. The Astros and the manager sent the most high-leverage guy out there. And the results were not as what Will or AJ or anybody else that has any affinity for the Houston Astros would have wanted. It does come down to no matter what you want to do
Starting point is 00:47:55 in terms of describing what a manager shouldn't do. It comes down to player execution. It just does. Astro's offense largely did not execute in the series and the bullpen when it rained, it poured, so to speak. And one thing you've said, you know, what haven't we covered? I mean, we have mentioned it, but I mean, tip of the cap to the nationals.
Starting point is 00:48:15 That pitch that Howie Kendrick sent out, that was down in a way, spotted on the corner exactly where Will Harris wanted it, and he just got a hold of it and just enough for that bad boy to stay fair. I mean, great job by him. Soto had been great, the entire playoffs.
Starting point is 00:48:32 And then Anthony Rendon, we know what he has done and what he's capable of. The Washington Nationals are really good. And Max Scherzer was really good as well. He kept on getting into Toronto. trouble, and we can say, you know what? The Astros failed in all these situations. But if you're on the national side, you know what you're saying? You're saying Max Scherzer stepped it up in those tough pressure situations. And which you know what baseball is saying that Garrett Cole, excuse me,
Starting point is 00:48:56 that Max Scherzer and Steven Strasberg, greater than Cole and Burlander right now. They were in this series. How could you argue that? You can't. Let's go to Joe in a task a seat on 790. Joe, good afternoon. Hey, Matt. Hey, Roth. How are you all? Good. Hey, I'm a lifelong Astros fan. This is my, I'm heartbroken. I'm devastated.
Starting point is 00:49:21 I called you, Matt, after the first game, I was the one that was on the ledge, if you remember, and you told me to jump. Yep. And after they lost that second game, I thought we were done. Honestly, I thought the series was over with. When we went to Washington and won those three games, I mean, I thought we had it.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Coming back home for two games, needing to win one of the two, I thought we had this series. You know, what's most frustrating for me is, I believe this is the best Astros team ever. And for it to end this way, not to get that championship, it's just, it's just, you know, I don't know, I just can't describe it.
Starting point is 00:50:05 It's just demoralizing. My question to you, Matt, is, I'm a U of H alum as you are. How does this compare to the U of H NC State loss? I believe it was in, was it 83? 83, all right. Well, I'm going to answer on that. Thank you for the phone.
Starting point is 00:50:25 You go real quick, Joe. What do you think on the two? I think it's on the same level. I mean, based, I mean, we were favored. Astros were big-time favorites in this series, as was U of H. So I think it's on the same level. I will disagree, Joe. The distance between U of H and North Carolina State was profound.
Starting point is 00:50:49 The distance between the Nationals and the Astros wasn't, I mean, the Astros were favorites, but it wasn't like that no one gave the Nationals a shot. You're also asking me to try to compare seven games against one game of 40 minutes, where it's literally, you know, you get won and done. And also Matt Thomas, the 12 years old was devastated to see his beloved 5th Seema Jamma lose the way they did on a very last second play. I mean, the last second play, where the Astros, you know, it was familiar. When they lost games in this series, it wasn't for the dramatic.
Starting point is 00:51:26 It was for the bullpen not doing its job. The Astros having trouble getting runners to score in scoring position. And it was bullpen blowups. So no, I don't put them in the same category. Now, am I disappointed equally? Maybe. Is it tough to stomach to see a team that won 117 games, not have a ring, and not have a downtown celebration?
Starting point is 00:51:51 Yeah. But for just spur of the moment, utter disappointment, I will be in a home getting a sponge bath from Ross. I'm not sponge bathing you, man. I'll feed you. And I will never forget in 1983. That's it. that's the ultimate yeah that's that's like a one singular moment
Starting point is 00:52:11 that would be the equivalent of them getting walked off I feel like in a game seven or like a basis loaded grand slam like a gut like just a gut punch yeah you know yesterday was on a gut punch it was just being kicked in the testicles repeatedly over and over again true and then someone behind you a bag ice and you don't want to put them on them you don't want you don't want the ice you just want to suffer that's kind of a weird reference but I think it's still worked. All right. 713.2-1-2-5-790. Come on in. We're here all day long. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90.
Starting point is 00:52:48 The Rockets had Red Nation. Matt has Maddie Nation. Things are going to start happening to me now. You've made it. I'm somebody now. More Matt Thomas. Max is a bulldog. You know, we saw him earlier. His location was as Chris. It wanted to be. through some unbelievable innings and he kept us in a ball game that's all we can ask for max i mean he had 102 pitches he came in and wanted to stay he said hey i'll give you another inning if you need me
Starting point is 00:53:20 and i said max you did a great job you kept us in a ball game we'll we'll get this we'll figure it out we're going to win this game so but what a fantastic job he did ross that nick was born in the wrong decade i've said that many times i think ross i think nick would be the kind of guy that would want to be in an 80s dance club four days a week. I'm not talking like right now. I don't get that vibe from him, no. Oh my gosh. I think I'd go back a little farther.
Starting point is 00:53:58 I'd be the guy in the 80s dance club at like 45. Well, you could do that like tomorrow. Nick's not 45 and there's no 80s dance clubs that I know of. Yeah. There is an 80s dance club in downtown. There is? I was invited to one and I said I don't go to the 80s clubs. I want legit though.
Starting point is 00:54:17 I need a time machine. You know what you want? You want it. You want MTV to play videos again, don't you? Yeah, he wants rolled up sleeves. Coke Cola shirts. Yeah. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:54:29 What else? A cocaine direct from Pablo Escobar. You want a hard rock t-shirt or you can roll up your sleeves? 1980s, Lamborghinis, and Falka Seagles, blasting over the speakers. Did y'all do that, by the way? And I'm not talking to you, too. I'm just talking about anybody that's in my audience. Did you all buy Coca-Cola shirts, the red and the blue ones?
Starting point is 00:54:46 No. Never owned a Coca-Cola product in all my life. except to Coca-Cola. And then going to Hard Rocks and getting Hard Rock shirts in different cities you went to. Excuse me? Hard Rock Cafes. Okay. What do you think I said?
Starting point is 00:55:00 Nothing. Good. 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. Rossi, Nick, let's know more Washington sound bites. I don't really care how they feel like them. Those really, that didn't, that wasn't fun. I got to be honest.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I didn't like listening to that. I didn't. I'd rather just hear us feel sorry about it for ourselves. Give me some George, some Jose, some more Garrett-Colon team Scott Borisgear. I mean, that's what we really need if we're going to make ourselves feel horrible today. Let's go to Matt and West Chase on 790. Hello, Matt. Yeah, hey, listen, I don't know what AJ Hinch was thinking in the last couple of games,
Starting point is 00:55:42 but game six, he lives Zivinsky in way too long until the game is totally out of reach. like he had totally just given up on the game. And then in game seven, he managed the pitching staff like it was just a regular old season game with the usual pitchers coming in instead of using his best talent and in game seven of the final game of a World Series game. And I got a bit of reality for people that think,
Starting point is 00:56:15 oh, there's next year, oh, we got something to hope for, No, says who? This was your best year. This was your best record ever. Your best lineup ever. Your best pitching staff ever. You know, there's no guarantee we're going to have anything better. There's no guarantee Jeff Luno is going to get and make us another blockbuster deal next year.
Starting point is 00:56:36 What is her to hope for? This fastest growing sports game show. We simply called it B leaving it out. And here's how it works. You will call our contest line because all of our regular. lines are lit 713212 3399 71329 71329 today's edition and believe it or not is brought to you by houston woodhouse day spas burn out your gift card for the gift of relaxation and houston woodhouse spas dot com category today is all things about the passing of john witherspoon who did yesterday
Starting point is 00:57:34 i'll read your statement about job the statement's completely utterly accurate you'll say this It's erroneous full of bucket made up. You'll say this. Not. To believe it or not, it's on all things about John Witherspoon and win your prize. Ross, what's the prize?
Starting point is 00:57:46 Matt, I got a pair of tickets to see Dane Cook November 1st at the Revention Music Center. Tickets and information at LiveNation.com. Let's play, believe it, or not. Let's go to line number seven. Trevor on 790.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Trevor, you ready to play, believe it or not? Let's do it. John Witherspoon's early acting credits include a number of big-time TV shows. including the Incredible Hulk, Good Times, and WKRP in Cincinnati. Believe it or not? Believe it. Statement number two for the win.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Before becoming an actor or a comedian, John Witherspoon worked as a fashion model in Detroit. Believe it or not? Not. Believe it. Oh, you gotta know, Wikipedia would have been very helpful in that particular case. It was in the early years paragraph of Wikipedia. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:38 James on the... James on 790, ready to play, believe it or not. Yes, sir. John Witherspoon had an older brother, William, who was a singer and songwriter for Motown Records. Believe it or not. Not. Believe it. That again.
Starting point is 00:58:54 He wrote What Becomes of the Broken Hearted. We got to play that as a song coming back from the next break. You hear that, Nick? What Becomes a... Yeah, we have broken hearts around these places. Steve on 790, ready to play Believe it or not. Yeah, but it's Jim. All right, whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:10 In 2011, John Witherspoon took up residency at the Orleans Casino and was named Comedian of the Year by the Las Vegas Tourism Board. Believe it or not? Believe it. Not. Oh, sorry there, whatever. 713-212-3399. Remember, 7-1-2-3-93-99.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Joshua on 790. Ready to play Believe it or not? Believe it or not? Believe it. John Witherspoon auditioned for the role of Cleo McDowell in the 1988 film coming to America, but the role it was awarded to John Amos. Believe it or not? Believe it.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Not. We made that up. Where's our music? There it is. 713-212-32-33-99. 7-1-3-2-3-39 as we play America's fastest girl sports. We say hi to Victor on 790. Victor, you ready to play Believe it or not?
Starting point is 01:00:13 Believe it. John Witherspoon's granddaughter, Shea, is an actress, and she's currently a regular on Bold and the Beautiful. Believe it. Believe it. No, you know that. I watch Blue Beautiful YouTube. You don't know these things. Let's go to Gill on 790.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Gil, you're ready to play Believe it or not? Believe it. John Witherspoon appeared in a number of rap music videos for artists including Jay-Z. Goody Mob and an LL Cool J. Believe it or not. Not. Believe it. We don't get prizes away at 252 or, for that matter, 126. Let's buzz in line number 7.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Kurt on 790, Kurt, you ready to play Believe it or not? Yes, sir. John Witherspoon was close friends with David Letterman. He's the godfather to two of his sons. Believe it or not. Not. Believe it. and that's the
Starting point is 01:01:08 We can't even give away a prize I believe it or not on the day the Astros lost the World Series. We tried. Great questions, Ross. Wow. Ross, amazing working on your part, my friend. Yes, fantastic job.
Starting point is 01:01:25 I love that we just did that in the middle of the segment. That's why our show is just not like everybody else's. Brian and Edo at 127. Hi, Brian. Hey. How's it going, guys? Real quick, to come back to last caller they called him before, believe it or not, Tannen Hinch pushed all the wrong buttons. You know what Hinch didn't do? You didn't go one for it
Starting point is 01:01:52 with runners in scoring position. He didn't only score 11 runs at home in four games. You know, he wasn't, you know, and to bunting guy, everybody that wants you to bunce, that's what happens when you try to bunt and you're not a regular at it. Exactly what happened to Robinson in Turino yesterday. Puffed up a bun, which would have put runners in the scoring position, but didn't. Then they got moved in the scoring position
Starting point is 01:02:20 by Reddick's ground out, and then ultimately the Springer hard fly ball to left to Soto. So, you know, yeah, I would have loved to see Cole come in. I think if Harris gets out of that inning, I think you do see Cole come in, at least
Starting point is 01:02:36 for the seventh and maybe the eighth, and then you see Alcindon in the ninth. for everyone who wants the latest that AJ Hens just feed or give him a majority of the blame. Like maybe he didn't have his finest doubting yesterday. But the offense has been putrid just about all postseason. I mean, we used to get hits in 2017, like the national got hit yesterday or all this past series in this postseason. We were the team getting those clutch and finally hits. And they did it this year.
Starting point is 01:03:06 And I mean, if you would have told me going to this series, the road. team would win every one hour to say you're crazy. And that's just, I mean, it's absolutely bizarre to think that that just happened that the road team won every single game. They said it's never happened, right? Never. Yeah, that's absolutely bizarre. So everyone bagging on Hinge, you know, just layoff.
Starting point is 01:03:31 He took you to 107 wins after 103 wins, after 101 wins season. And so I don't think AJ Hintz is a problem. He's won a World Series. I think the problem was just your lack of timely hitting. Some of them are just bad luck. You know, I think you really suffer the most of that as many hard-hit balls as he had right at people or they got speared or anything else. But, you know, I'm as disappointed as anybody else, lifelong fan.
Starting point is 01:03:59 But, you know, I'm confident with this core. They'll be right back in the playoffs again next year. My only hope is that we don't have to see Garrett Cole in the division. If he wants to go to the Padres or the Dodgers, so be it. Just, my God, don't go to the Angels. I just don't want to see him five, six times a year. And unfortunately, Brian, they would be the lead dog contenders for it. Not a guarantee because it takes an offer.
Starting point is 01:04:25 It's not a roll of a dice. This is number 34, Ricky Williams, your teams, your town, your voice all day. This is Sports Talk 790. Real Texans talk here. You know, we're one game away coming in yesterday, and, you know, they beat us two games in a row, and they were able to go home with the championship. So, of course, it's going to be tough.
Starting point is 01:04:52 It's a tough feel so on. We did everything we could, you know, possible and impossible. You know, we got guys playing since day one 100%. we did everything to to make it happen we couldn't but no that's amazing Ross in the Knickerback
Starting point is 01:05:24 Houston Oh Yeah where do you put this Ross because Look my frame of reference is going to go back To when I was a kid Among the all-time losses Where are you put in this series
Starting point is 01:05:40 Among the Houston Disappointers How many times Has the team, I mean, we're not used to the team being favorites, right? In the annals of Houston history. Yes, that's right. I mean, maybe Chiefs and Oilers in 93. The Oilers were favored in that game?
Starting point is 01:06:02 Do we know by how much? Well, they were also in somewhere. They had the home field advantage. They had a buy in the first round. They were the number two seen the playoff that year. Kansas City came in in Montana and Marcus Allen beat him. They'd won like 10 games in a row or 12 games in a row or something like that. I mean, maybe up there with that one.
Starting point is 01:06:20 I wasn't alive in 83, but that sounds like an all-time gut punch for sure. It's up there. What about 92 Oilers Bills? That to me, that's all-time, greatest of all-time. Okay, so let me give you the gut punches of all time in no particular order, but I'll try to give you an order. If I say my Jama 1, Oilers, Bills, 2,
Starting point is 01:06:45 now I'm going to think about what I want to put at 3. As far as singular moments, I know it was a first, first round series, but that Damien Lillard shot in 2014. Yeah, that was not great. Super, super sucked. Game 7 of the Western Conference Finals where you go 0 for 27. Yeah, that's in that group. Oh, that's it.
Starting point is 01:07:06 I don't want to be talking about this, Matt. Why would put, let me tell you. Why do we always know? This comes up like three times a year. It feels like the most, the biggest Houston gut punches because it just keep, we just keep getting wave after wave. And by the way, Houston sports gut punches. Just to be fair.
Starting point is 01:07:23 other cities not named Boston gets these gut punches, too, by the way. That's true. We ain't the only ones. Atlanta ain't feeling great. Trust me. Minneapolis don't feel fine. How do you feel I'm being Dodger fan the last half a dozen years? Oof.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Keep making and keep losing? I would have to put, boy, Lillard's shot really, really stung. That's the last time I came close to crying after a sporting event. So I would go, and again, I'm a lot of the changes. Hopefully we don't do this a whole lot, but I'm allowed to change. I'm going to go five Sama-Jama Oilers, Bills. Then I'm going to go Lillard's shot. Then I'm going to go Kansas City Oilers.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Then I'll put this one at five. And then probably game seven, oh for whatever it was at number six. Oh, for 27. Oh, for 27. Oh, for 27. See, I've already tried to forget about it. Oh, for 27. Oh, they get fouled on like three of those.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Just saying. Okay. 713-212-5-790 in terms of longest wait we go to Zeb and katie on the Matt Thomas show hi Zeb hi Matt hey Matt great show you and Ross I can tell you I've got it I'm seriously got it and I'd like to know where do we I wonder where we stand as far as statistically of how many runners left on base all you and the third second or third thing who else is by Sando and his little at-the-plate annex. I kind of felt like he was mocking Granky,
Starting point is 01:08:58 and it really got under my skin. If I'd have been the next pitcher the next time he came up, I'd have beened him. What do you guys think? No, this isn't the time to be doing any sort of protocol of baseball this time of here. This is the World Series. You don't want to put any base runners on. You don't want to try to do anything that would incite any sort of riots
Starting point is 01:09:17 or people getting tossed. You got to, you save that crap, unfortunately. Unfortunately, for a regular season game, Zedb, to be honest with you. You just don't have time for that in the World Series. I agree, but didn't it get under the skin? Didn't that guy just irritate you? You know why he irritated me? Because he had home runs really, really far.
Starting point is 01:09:33 That's what irritated me more than anything else. Well, yeah, but here's a season better and pitching one of the better games of his career as of late. And here's this poor kid coming in there. Just, to me, it was mocking him. Yeah, I understand it. Yeah, I understand it. I get it.
Starting point is 01:09:51 You're probably the only one's thinking that. Thank you, Zez, for the call. Rossi, to me, everything was about what was happening in the lines. I didn't think of the... Like I said, you and I mentioned this yesterday. We weren't that upset one way the other about the bat to carry into first base. There's showboating. There's all sorts of things.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I just... He irritated me, but it was not because of what he did. It was because of what he accomplished. Yeah, no, I think there was a bit of it. To me, it feels like he's being a little bit of a clown up there. It's very Carlos Gomez-y to me. when he's on your side, when Carlos Gomez was a Houston Astro, you can kind of take it and you think it's funny and stuff. But when Carlos Gomez is like a Tampa Bay Ray or not a Tampa Bay Ray, but when he's like a Texas Ranger or whatever, I mean, you're kind of like, okay, this guy is just a clown.
Starting point is 01:10:36 So, he's a clown. And he's only 21 years old, of course, as you know, Matt. Yeah, apparently he's 21 and great. As Labor Torres aged it all in the last year? I think it just irritates me because also, like you said, because he's very good. If he was going, you know, one for 21 in the series,
Starting point is 01:10:55 it probably wouldn't irritate me as much. Yeah, that was thinking about Carlos Gomez, is that he wasn't backing it up. His showboat, showboatsmanship, is that even a word? I'll go with it. Showboating? Didn't back up what he was doing at the plate.
Starting point is 01:11:08 He wasn't hitting these moon rockets. He wasn't making these great plays. He was just a very average pedestrian player. Mr. Soto was really good in a huge part of the reason why the Nationals won the World Series. Back on the phones when we returned, Return. We're here for y'all. That's it. We're just here for y'all today.
Starting point is 01:11:26 And that's what we're here. You know, we can agree, disagree, have good conjecture, argue, yell at each other. I don't care. We can just do it. We're here until 3 o'clock. It is the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 790. At least now we know that losing sucks. And if anybody knows how much losing sucks, it's Matt Thomas. I'm outstanding. This is Whitney Merciless. Back to the Matt Thomas show. On Sports Talk 790.
Starting point is 01:11:51 We had a great team. but they outplayed us and they deserve it. Yeah, I'm extremely proud to be a part of this team and proud of every guy in this clubhouse. We've been knocked down a lot. We've gotten back up and just got knocked down again today, but we'll be back for 2020. You know, always Steve, it makes me feel better.
Starting point is 01:12:33 So Ross, if you were to go out Trick or Treating tonight, what would you dress up as? Say again, Matt. If you were to dress up on Halloween tonight, what would you go as? I'd probably shave most of my beard, keep the stash and go as Pablo Escobar again, because that's really all I have. I have the same shirt and the same pants, same quarter of the 80s pants. By the way, Matt, though, did you see that Garrett Cole has issued a statement on Twitter?
Starting point is 01:13:07 Would you please read it to our audience, please? Do we need music behind her? No, it's pretty lengthy. Here we go. This from Garrett Cole 45 on Twitter. Houston, last night was a tough one for us, and the heartbreak hasn't gotten any easier today. Before I became an Astro, I didn't know much about Houston,
Starting point is 01:13:31 but after just two years you have made it feel like home. So here's what I know now. You've been an overwhelmingly friendly, welcoming, and kind to my family and me. The Astros organization has been such a pleasure to play for. The cranes are indeed special people and great owners. I've met lifelong friends on the team and in the community and learned a little about pitching along the way. Winking face emoji.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Playing in front of you is really something special and has been such an honor. The incredible support and passionate roars inspire our team to play at the highest level we possibly can. This is a relationship between a team and its fans like no other that I know. Thank you for making us better people and better players. This was a great season. We have a lot to be proud of. Signed, Garrett Cole. Ross, I want you to go check my Twitter account at SportsMT
Starting point is 01:14:39 and please read the line that I just put at the very top. I'm going to guess. Can I guess? And I haven't even seen it. He gone. Nope. Oh, I should have guessed. What was your favorite Garrett Cole's an Astro moment?
Starting point is 01:14:57 Probably like last year when he had that crazy game where he struck out like 16 and it was amazing. It's Arizona, right? Yeah. I was going to have to... Or game five of the ALDS. I was going to have to... I wanted to kind of hold on to that until he actually did decide to go somewhere.
Starting point is 01:15:15 You know how you're like, you know what? I'll listen to all offers. The dude wore a Scott Boris hat last night. He'd gone. When you wear his Scott Boris hat? Instead of wearing not a hat at all? I mean, I thought that was like a Billabong logo or something. I was like, okay, he's from California.
Starting point is 01:15:32 he's a surfer dude and then when you said it was Scott Boris's logo I was like oh that's that's not good again I didn't he didn't need to wear an Astros cap no need to do that whatsoever yeah he could just let the the flowing locks go maybe he needed a headband or something like that favorite Garrett Cole is an Astro moment I'll go game 5 ALDS final answer I'm gonna go all the above except I'm gonna give my least favorite moment shouting down an Astros PR person and then wearing a Scott Boris camp. Yeah. That's my least favorite.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Yeah. Everything else was really good. Yeah. 713-212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-7-90. Let's say hi to Jim and Crosby on the Matt Thomas show. Jim, thanks for holding. Good afternoon.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Good afternoon. Well, I've got the World Series Hangover. had to go to work this morning at 5. Okay. Totally disappointed. You know, just a few thoughts about the game, about the series. A few statistics. The Astros had a higher batting average.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Had 10 more hits, at least, than the Nationals. It had the same number of home run. But the National scored a few more runs than the Astros did. I can't find the left on base number, but I think that the Astros certainly squandered game seven, leaving players on runners on base. And when the nationals had runners on base, they manufactured runs. And that's really the type of managing I was hoping for national league style trying to manufacture runs. People call it small ball, but you want to win this game. This is a must game.
Starting point is 01:17:36 You got to get those ducks off blonde. The other caller talked about Trino's unable to get a bun down. Yordon didn't get to third when, you know, he confronted at second, and it didn't go from first to third on that one hit. And then Trino's tried to bun him over and that flopped. And, you know, we didn't run. This time, during this series, we stole more bases than the nationalists did during the postseason. The Astros did not clutch.
Starting point is 01:18:16 But then, unfortunately, A.J. micromanaged the Grinky, taking them out a little too early. You know, I just don't think people were comfortable with Grinky. They know Granky as well. and maybe he had disappointed, you know, the coaching staff for the first couple times he had pitched, but this was a gym. This was a stellar game. And unfortunately, but I think you guys are right, I think Harris was the gas. And I think Eric Cole was pissed that he didn't get to play and be our hero,
Starting point is 01:18:57 and ride in on a horse like Madison Bumgarder did, and winning for the Giants. So, oh, well, so sad, too bad. The greatest after of steam ever. Winning 107 games is great, but you've got to win the World Series to wear the crown. All right, Jim, I'll let you run because you sound like you're breaking up with us. Ross, see if Jim's call and what I'm about to say sounds about right.
Starting point is 01:19:26 Okay. So, Christy, we met on a blind date through Match.com, and we really liked each other, and we had some good sex early on. Is that what you say in the breakup speech? Stay with me on this. And we went on a few dates, and you bought some times, and I did, and then you made me want to buy you roses on our one-month anniversary, and then you wanted me to call you at 4 o'clock in a morning to make sure you got home after being out all night in Vegas. and it just didn't work out that way. And, you know, you wanted me to meet your parents.
Starting point is 01:20:04 I was against it, but I did anyway, and I didn't work out real great. Just a missed opportunity for us. We thought we were going to have a great relationship together. You know what? Somebody else came in and stole your heart. You don't do that in 2019, Matt. You just ghost people. Julie did to change your phone number.
Starting point is 01:20:26 Yeah, or block them. Yeah Get a new IG account Yeah My man trying to go to the Gerard card Recapping everything that sucked You know what Whatever works for you all to
Starting point is 01:20:44 Just let it out I can't have you carrying this much longer Now we're going to do this again tomorrow probably We're going to make some football in But this is this is going to take longer in a day It is I get it Suck it up Tuts Is that Charlie
Starting point is 01:21:01 Suck it up Tuts 156 is the time We start the final hour of the Matt Thomas show. As long as it still is my show. We've got to have fun a little bit, Matt. Is there any sports news to get to today, Ross? Oh, boy. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:21:25 I'm going to give you like 10 more seconds. All right. We open up the refrigerator door again, looking for a big, tasty sports story. And there's milk and sour cream. That's about it. Man, there's nothing going on today. Couldn't have said it better myself. 713-2-1-2-5-790.
Starting point is 01:21:59 This is the Matt Thomas show. How do I say goodbye? We just went over the gang plan, and he laid out the most avidages times to use me, and we didn't get to that position. Yeah, a lot of good friendships. obviously learned a lot about pitching from my teammates from the pitching coaches and pitching staff. You know, learned a lot more about the game from AJ, and it was just a pleasure to play in the city of Houston.
Starting point is 01:23:03 By the way, Ross, we should save this clip and just play it on an endless loop once he decides where he's going to play in 2020, right? the body is still not completely cold you mean this one matt how gut wrenching ears that's not fun wearing the scott boris hat
Starting point is 01:23:30 while in the a flashback to the eighth grade slide show at the like the last day of school principal wooten telling us this is the last time everybody in this room is going to be in the same room at the same time some of you will die and some of you move away
Starting point is 01:23:46 Thanks, principal Wooten. Least favorite principal, Belding or Wooten? Miss Wooten was all right. Oh, as a woman? Yes. She told you, you were going to die? Yeah, she told us, like, and that was true.
Starting point is 01:24:02 I think somebody died, like, literally a couple of weeks afterwards. I can't remember it was like a car accident or something. Anyways, let's move on. Was she investigated? This is getting, no, no, Nick. Was she hot? This is getting macabre. I need a non-Florida story.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Miss Wooten was about in her, mid-60s and wore basically what you would think of a librarian in the 1950s would wear with white pearls and a giant poofy gray hair. Is she still at the school? I'm going to guess she's passed. I don't know. Believe it or not, Miss Wooten alive. Why is this? Why is this a thing is what you're saying?
Starting point is 01:24:43 Yeah. It's my fault. It's the Matt Thomas show. That's what it is. It's getting a little morbid in here. A little bit. 713212-1-2-5-790 If anybody wants to sneak a rocket call in
Starting point is 01:24:56 I'll take it because I had a blast call on the game Granted I also lost oxygen for two and a half hours straight Because I couldn't take a breath Yeah, good thing that thing wasn't in Denver, Matt Oh my God And now I'm watching the highlights of Joel Embed And Carl Anthony Towns fighting Man if it weren't the Astros losing the World Series
Starting point is 01:25:13 We would be all over this Did you see their Twitter fight as well? Twitter, Instagram And you see Mrs. Towns, Mama Town? Middle finger and Joel and Bede? And Carl Anthony, everybody's calling everybody peas and bees and all this stuff. Bees and Bees. I'm not talking about peanut butter either.
Starting point is 01:25:31 Right. It's just 15 minutes, yeah. That's right. Matt Ross will do a show, 50 minutes of just calling each other, peas and bees. All right, back on the phones. It's 713-212-5-7-90. In terms of longest wait, we go to Ken in southwest Houston. Hi, Ken.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Hey, good afternoon, guys. First of all, I really want to thank you all for taking us through the Astro season, feedback, commentary, some from a lot of the fans, but I guess that's what makes this sports show humorous, such as your Katie and Juan Alvarez and Moses Al-Tube. But anyway, y'all did a great job late night, carrying us through, and really enjoy the station in what you all provide. Thank you. A couple of quick comments on the game. You know, if you're an Astros fan, all these people calling in, all of us have been fans, most of us at least for a long time, this hurts. There's no doubt about it. It hurts. But they had a great, great season, and they basically just met a better team. They just met a better team, which I think is a little bit different than North Carolina. I think the Couges were a better team that year. They just, you know,
Starting point is 01:26:44 They just couldn't close the game out. And the same thing happened, the Oilers against Buffalo. They just couldn't close the doggone game out. Some comments on the way the Astros played. This seemed to be throughout the year when we ran into streets where, you know, our key players just couldn't get runners, you know, have a runner on second and third with one out, runners on first and second with no out,
Starting point is 01:27:11 and we couldn't get anybody in in the games we lost. I think it's something we need to address. I know how you address it or what you do because, you know, throughout the year, these same banners from Yoron to Altuva to Springer, you know, maybe not so much Correa because he went around a lot of the year. But they were there for us. So we just met a better team. Love this show.
Starting point is 01:27:33 I'll hang up and listen to your comments. Thank you very much. And really not much more I can add what he just said. I mean, you know, Ross, and this is maybe one of the things we've not done enough of, the Nets. I mean, excuse me, the Nets. I'm thinking of the Brooklyn Nets. mind. The Washington Nationals, really good baseball team, world champions, good up and down the
Starting point is 01:27:54 lineup order, different heroes, filthy front end starting pitching, and the Astros Ross got to that Washington bullpen, didn't get to them enough. Yeah, I mean, Patrick Corbyn was basically dealing out there. And then after Max Scherer and what he did, I mean, if I had told you, Max Scherzer was going to be out in five. Zach Grinke's giving you six and a third of great pitching. You'd have said Astros were going to win this thing. Corbin was great. They rode the hot hand, or Dave Martinez rode the hot hand because he was pitching so well,
Starting point is 01:28:30 and then the timely hitting. I think that's number one issue in this entire series. What decided this series was timely hitting, and the Astros didn't have it enough. Timely hitting, just general men on the base pads. It just sat there. There was very few heroics. And that's the thing about Ross. When you win a World Series, you're looking for hero moments,
Starting point is 01:28:54 and you just could not find enough of them from the Astros. A little bit of Correa, a little bit of Guerrille, a little bit of Springer, but it just wasn't enough. There's nobody in that lineup, and again, unless I'm missing somebody, that had the memorable turn-the-tide emotions of a series. You thought, you know, collectively, because that was the thing is, we've spent time talking about how anti-climactic the series was. If we were, if we didn't have a partisanship on this, we'd have thought the World Series sucked.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Yeah, for seven games series, the only close game was game one. But I guess some of them were close, like going into the seventh inning and stuff like that. But there was never any huge back and forth, transcendent, crazy moments that you're going to remember for the rest of your life, extra innings or anything like that. what I will take away from this World Series, and quiz me on this in five years, I mean, it's in all sincerity. What I'll remember about this Astros World Series was that Verlander was given two more opportunities
Starting point is 01:29:55 to win a World Series game and couldn't do it. And I will also remember the most amazing offense looking subpar, pedestrian, below average, whatever you want to call it. That offense, we just haven't seen in about three weeks. weeks. Is it collective slump, Ross, or is it the Astros ran into some really good pitching, by and
Starting point is 01:30:18 large, in the month of October? It could be a little bit of column A and column B, but I think this, you just figured the way this line, we talked about this, Matt. Yeah. How deep this lineup was, and when Carlos Kare came back, and you're plugging a guy who
Starting point is 01:30:34 OPSed over 900 in the seven hole, and then Robinson Cherinos, who could hit home runs and be well, and then and then Josh Redick as your nine guy who started off the season hitting 340. I mean, this was just supposed to be Murderers Row reincarnate, and they just couldn't get any runs in the World Series. And largely throughout the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:30:55 I mean, you go five with the raise because you can't score, six with the Yankees, which if Jose Altova doesn't hit that walkoff, you're talking about another seven game series and then seven here, all for the most part a lot of times because you just couldn't get enough runs scored. Yeah. I mean, couldn't have said any better than, that right there. 713-212-5-790.
Starting point is 01:31:15 7-1-3-21-2-5-7-90. We continue with you on all things on the Astros. We will make some football in tomorrow with Dr. Roto for a couple of segments. We'll get Joel Claddon involved. We'll get Brian Tee in. And we'll obviously mix in some more on the Astros and maybe a little bit of rocket talk as well. But today it's about the Astros. And it's going to take us a while to put this season to bed.
Starting point is 01:31:35 That's for sure. This is Ricky Williams. I may have worn a wedding dress on a magazine cover, but it still looks better than any outfit Matt can put together. Let your wife dress you, man. Texas fine. Texas five. Back to Matt Thomas on Sports Talk, 790.
Starting point is 01:31:51 I'd like to tell about the sky you all know. The old man. He's burnt to put forward to MTV reunion or some sort. We haven't played the definitive Halloween song. Yeah, I avoid those. Clearly, those classics. It's the month. Monster Mash, right?
Starting point is 01:32:23 That's the goat of all Halloween. I'm going Thriller. Thriller numero, thriller's good. Somebody's watching me is good. Just telling you, you want to get the monster mash on. Everybody gets the dance floor on that. Well, maybe not. Nobody's dancing today in Houston, Texas, right?
Starting point is 01:32:45 Nobody's in a celebratory mood. You think people are going to have their daubers down when they're at going to, you know, trick or tree, like, trick or treat, go Astros. Yeah, do you think? I mean, there's probably a lot of kids who are going to go out dressed as Astro or something Astro's related, right? Is that still in the plans? By the way, if your kids are going as dressed as Garrett Cole for Halloween, they have to have a Scott Boros hat on because he's not an Astro anymore.
Starting point is 01:33:13 He made it abundantly clear yesterday. Man, why would you do that? I'm such a fan of his. I'm no longer an employee, so I will wear a nondescript hat. No, I had had a message on it. Oh, that's true. It was a very discrepad. It was a more subtle pay me, Rick.
Starting point is 01:33:37 God, it was, guess who's going to pay me? Anybody but this organization. Maybe he was bent. Maybe the asteris have said, look, we love you, but we can only give you X, and X is not even going to be close to what you want. So just give it your all and go. I do believe part of the irritation of yesterday in him wearing that hat was the fact that age.
Starting point is 01:33:59 you didn't go to him. I firmly believe that. I don't believe he was just okey-dokey, Ross, as the kids would say. Oki-Doki was not playing. Well, you know what I'm saying. That they would that he didn't get to pitch yesterday. Especially how things turned down.
Starting point is 01:34:16 Let's go to 713-1-2-125-790. Say hi to Alex and downtown. Hi, Alex. Hey, Matt, thanks for having me on. I was just looking for your guys' perspective on the whole mattress max situation i mean astro's lost big last night but the mac really lost well i mean nobody put a gun to his head on that right well yeah i guess so it's a lot of money
Starting point is 01:34:43 he was just hedging no he was just hedging yeah he he was 50-50 and then he had all he has millions of dollars of merchandise that he sold that he was supposed to give back if they had won so he was making those bets not because he likes to travel the country making large amounts of bets he was doing it because he wanted to make sure he was he was doing it because he wanted to make sure he broke even or as close to he could. Ross, have you seen Darren Rebels? I know Darren has been following everything. I know.
Starting point is 01:35:05 It's creepy. What's that? Creepily, yes. Go ahead. Yeah, they're doing a documentary on, I think, Mattress Mac. Oh, really? Yeah, on the whole thing. Okay. So where is he on?
Starting point is 01:35:15 Is there a final tally on how he did or did not do based on the results? I mean, he made, I mean, he lost what is 10 million plus, I think, on the bets, but we don't know how much he made on mattresses. And that's why he did that. It's not like Mattress Mac is like just crazy river. Bolt gambler who loves the Houston Astros. He's making a business decision. I imagine he doesn't have to disclose
Starting point is 01:35:35 his sales reports on those mattresses, but I imagine he took a look at those before he made the bet. Yeah. Alex, you understand, he wasn't doing it because he was just super Astros. He was doing it because he wanted to make sure he didn't lose his shirt one way or the other. Sure, but, you know, once he made those big bets, how come
Starting point is 01:35:51 he just kept on throwing more and more money at it? Because he made more and more money on his mattresses. Yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, I think every, let me tell you. So I've known Jim McInville for 20 plus years. Everything is aligned, you know, and organized and thought of. And he's got business people that are telling him what to do. He's not just randomly going, hey, should I go to the ATM and get $865,000 out?
Starting point is 01:36:17 I mean, everything has been planned because of this whole thought of, I'm going to lose all this money. And thank you for the phone call, Alex, if the Astros win the World Series. I mean. Yeah. And it's been millions in free publicity. We're talking about him right now. And if he weren't making these bets, we wouldn't be.
Starting point is 01:36:34 He's getting national press all over the place because of these bets that he's making. So, yeah, Matt, I'm with you. I think the word I would use is calculated. And I mean this in the nicest way possible. Mattress Mac is a hustler. Like, he's like, I mean that with utmost respect, he is always thinking ahead. He's always thinking of how to get his name out there and get the name of his business out there and make some money, and he does great philanthropic things.
Starting point is 01:37:01 And he takes care of the city when their floods happening and all that type of stuff. But there's also an edge to him where he knows if he's going to get people talking about him. That's great for business. And people have been talking about him throughout these entire playoffs. You know what he is? He is a savage 24-7. He's a savage when it comes to our community and being philanthropic. He's a savage about his business.
Starting point is 01:37:25 And he's a savage about marketing. Yeah, typically can. There will be no one ever in our life that will have worked the game better than Jim McInville. At the end of the day, yeah, at the end of the day, there is just genuine,
Starting point is 01:37:42 this is not, this is him. This is, I want to have, I want to make a lot of money, and then when I make a lot of money, I want to give some of it away. I want to do things that are community-related. I want to make sure people are taking care of when it comes to flooding or other diseases,
Starting point is 01:37:56 I want to take care of our military. I mean, this is who he's been since I watched him with gallery model home furniture when I was watching wrestling as a kid on Channel 39. And it's just gotten bigger and better and stronger. And I'm glad to know him. And I just think it's fascinating. And I know some people are like Clay Travis is just destroyed him yesterday on Twitter. But Clay is just like to destroy people here. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Clay's not an idiot. Cleggs, speaking of calculated and a hustler, Clay Travis. Yeah. He knows what he's doing when he's coming out and doing all these things. But I think he was just ignorant on the issue of mattress Mac and not knowing that he had to have this mattress promotion and all the things that he's done for the city. For him, I mean, if he wants to root against him,
Starting point is 01:38:39 which I think that was basically the crux of what he was saying, right? To my knowledge. Right, right. Yeah, you can root against him, whatever. But he wasn't happy that a guy was getting a lot of run for spending money. So he said the easiest thing to do is to go on my Twitter account and say, I hope you lose and go broke. Not knowing that Jim Mackey's,
Starting point is 01:38:55 Well, puts his money where his mouth is from his business to his marketing to his community. And frankly, I wish there were more people that did that. Let's go to America in spring. Is that your name? Is that right, America? Let me punch it up here. Sorry about that. Line one.
Starting point is 01:39:14 Is this you, America? Yes, it is. I can hear you. How do you like your name? I love my name. Don't you love this country? I love it. I love both.
Starting point is 01:39:25 Hey, but listen, the reason I was calling you. calling is, I'm not going to talk about the game. I went to several games, and that's the past. Let's go forward. What I do want to talk about are the friendships, like Cole said, the friendships that he made. Well, us fans also made a lot of friendships these last several years. You know, you have all these super fans out there, and thank goodness for social media, because I can remember in 2017 were those two guys, and you know the ones I'm talking about,
Starting point is 01:39:57 Goob and Wemley, they put out that video, or the, you know, it's like a little short clip that, you know, with the Staying Alive video, and they were at the airport, and they were going off to see the Astros either in Boston or L.A. or whatever, you know, and then, you know, it just, you know, transformed, you know, the last two years, and then there's more superfans. Now you've got the astronauts or Astro Nets, I should say, and just, you know, all the fathead people all around and the people with the signs and you just build such camaraderie in the fans, in the stands, and especially in our section, and we have one of the sponsors that's on the wall. I'm not going to say their name because I know you don't like people talking about sponsors or
Starting point is 01:40:43 whatever, but, you know, these big corporations buy block of seats. And so you get a mix of people that come to the games. And, you know, same thing with my company. You know, we get to share the tickets, and so, and we're very fortunate, you know, to be able to do that because I know a lot of people spend a lot of money on buying their season tickets. And I'm one of those lucky-ass people that can go for free because my boss, God bless them, you know, bought tickets for the office. We have two seats in Section 215. And if you're listening to anybody from section or from row number four through row number seven, there's a group of us that have, you know, seen each of us. throughout the year. And we just have so much fun, you know, rooting guys on and, and, you know,
Starting point is 01:41:29 cheer so loud. And we've just had such good times this year. So that's what I wanted to call about is just talking about how, you know, baseball and just the Astros, how it brought a lot of people together and just having a lot of fun and just rooting on the guys. So anyway, that's it. So thank you all for, same thing like the previous call. To thank you all for what y'all do and taking our calls. Thank you, America. Appreciate it. Glad you've forced some friendships out of that.
Starting point is 01:41:59 Nobody got any fights yesterday, right? There was no massive amounts of discord in the streets, right? Actually, the weather was kind of crappy after the game, right? Was it raining, I guess? It was raining. It was cold, yeah. It was like 30-something degrees this morning. Did anybody, you know, is there anybody that's out there that's like, hey, I got a date with a girl because of the Astros?
Starting point is 01:42:22 Maybe. Maybe. You never know. Love, you know, love, love connections can happen to anywhere, anytime. That's true, Matt. Could it happen at a department store at 1 o'clock in the morning if a certain Astros team would have won. Department. What's apartment story?
Starting point is 01:42:37 Oh, Academy. Yeah. Okay. I was thinking about you, Ross. Oh, okay. No, I'm good. Okay. That's right.
Starting point is 01:42:45 Remember, for those of you that don't know, Ross is holding out until he gets married. Mm-hmm. How do we even talk about that in the first time? I forgot. I don't remember. My chassis belt is locked. You are Mr. Chacity Belt. That is indeed true.
Starting point is 01:43:02 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. It is the Matt Thomas show. Rip it H-Town, light, five, slamma-jammer. Yo, what's up? This you boy, Bumb-Bed, the Trill-O-G with the whitest man in America. Matt Thomas. You are now tuned in to Sports Talk 790, man. All your Morts and ready to go.
Starting point is 01:43:25 Just a jump. To the left. Is this? Little Shop of Horrors? Nope. Is it Little Shopper hers? Nope. Rocky, uh...
Starting point is 01:43:54 There you go. There it is. Rocky Horror Picture show. Rocky Horror Picking Picture show. I've never seen it. Start to finish. I don't understand the cult following that it gets. Isn't it the movie you have to go to and you have to throw vegetables at the movie screen and stuff?
Starting point is 01:44:11 Yeah, you're supposed to dress up as one of the characters. It's a whole thing. It's a huge thing in Austin. Like, you have to, everybody's like, you have to go at least once to the Rocky Horror Picture Show. I win, and it was weird, and I didn't really care for it. I was like 15 or 16 as well. It was just was not my thing.
Starting point is 01:44:28 I bet you could have found a cougar that night. I'm not talking Houston cougars either. I was 15? That's illegal, Matt. I'm just saying. Okay. Only if you turn it in, Ross. Yeah, you see Golden State, Steph Curry broke his hand yesterday.
Starting point is 01:44:41 What's that? Steph Curry broke his hand yesterday. That's a shame. They're going to tank, Ross. They're going to get a number one pick, and then they're going to have Steph and Clay and some great basketball player who I don't even know who's projected to be
Starting point is 01:44:57 the number one pick this next year. Yep. So get ready for the mad scramble for the number one scene in the West because it ain't going to be Golden State, even if Steph was healthy. Clay's done for the year, and now the easy national
Starting point is 01:45:13 narrative is, will Golden State tank? Oh, they will, will they embrace the tank after being in the NBA finals these last handful of seasons? And then they can get Lamello Ball. Is that who the number one pick's going to be? Gross. He's thought of as like a top five guy. I'm just looking at NBA draft on that.
Starting point is 01:45:29 They have Anthony Edwards won Lamello Ball fourth. And by the way, Kevin Durano over the last couple days admitting that part of the reason why he left Golden State was because Dremont Green disrespected him. Whoops. Don't you disrespect, KD. Yeah, disrespect the guy. At least he's not known to be sensitive. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:49 He'll be up here in Brooklyn and someday when he gets healthy. They'll be all right. Nets, by the way, one and three after losing last night. They'll take on the Rockets tomorrow right here on Sports Talk 790. 713-212-5-790. So how you reach the show. Let's go to, let's see, in terms of longest wait. Let's go to Bart in downtown at 236.
Starting point is 01:46:11 Hi, Bart. Hey, guys. What I got to say, basically, I have a comment. I have a gut punch that a lot of people look over. But the comment is, last night's game, I'm an ex collegiate pitcher. And if you have a pitcher that's pitching out of his depth, and you're just, you're dodging the TV at some of the pitches that he throws, have coal fired up and ready going into seven.
Starting point is 01:46:34 I mean, let him try to get the last nine out to the game. That's my take on that. And the gut. punch is Pittsburgh and Houston, Mike Renfro's toe drag in
Starting point is 01:46:46 the end of the end zone that wasn't called it costs us a FC championship. Yeah, that was a little
Starting point is 01:46:51 bit before my time but let's be honest, anybody that's any sort of sports historian knows the Renfro drag
Starting point is 01:46:58 is the reason why we have instant replay today in the NFL. And wasn't that was just going to tie the game, right?
Starting point is 01:47:05 I think so. It wasn't the number one play to determine it ultimately, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:47:10 Yeah, again, I'd have to go back and look, but I'm just, I'm Googling it. Are you going to Google? All right. By the way, Joe Flacco expected to miss four to six weeks with the Denver Broncos. So we'll get an update on how that affects fantasy football. I can't imagine it does much, but it's going to be in with Dr. Roto tomorrow. He'll be with us at 1230 here on Sports Talk 790. Yeah, I would have tied the game at 17 in the third quarter.
Starting point is 01:47:35 So there was still a lot of meat left on the bone, so to speak. Yes. Let's go to Victor in Spring Branch at 238. Hi, Victor. Hey, what's going on, guys? I got a comment on you guys and give you guys how you guys are using humor to deal with the grief. Like the whole, has the principal passed, believe it or not? Like, it had me rolling.
Starting point is 01:48:02 Good, good. I just want to thank you guys, and I appreciate you guys. and thanks so much for christening the blow. But also, I think what I'm most upset about is, yes, it is a heartbreak. But also the fact that I won't be able to get a new 2019 World Championship shirt to replace my 2017 that's fading. And I'm done. See you guys.
Starting point is 01:48:29 Thank you. I mean, you can get a 2019 World Series. It just will be with Washington national colors, red and white. And yeah, unless you want to head to like Sudan or some other third world country and try to pick up the shirts over there. You know, let me ask you this in all seriousness. Why haven't we seen more of those shirts? I don't know if how much of that is like a just a funny trope that we talk about and how much of it is true. Because you would think if you are, because there's a lot of people that will go and they will bring clothes like that.
Starting point is 01:48:59 I mean, for instance, you know, Academy is a big sponsor of ours. We appreciate them. Rossi, they were locked and loaded with 2019 championship. ship gear. Where is that gear? Seriously. You think if you're like a stock boy there or any sort of a cashier or anything or a manager or whatever, can you grab a couple of those?
Starting point is 01:49:17 That's what I'm saying. I know I would. I'm not trying to be sinister. I'm just trying to be reels here. Look on eBay later today see if you can find one. But you know, the running joke is yeah, you can go to Cambodia or Ethiopia and see all that. Well, somebody
Starting point is 01:49:33 takes a camera phone with them. You would think you'd be able to see a whole photo like the chronicle would do a great photo what do you call those things um uh emitt the emit with a slideshow you can do a whole slideshow of champions that really weren't champions that's how you get clicks cron Greg regan if you're listening right now that's what you do go to go to those their rural countries and find out how many how many shirts there are of the atlanta falcons super bowl champions apparently there is they still do go send them overseas uh the internet Because good 360, a charitable organization based in Virginia,
Starting point is 01:50:12 handles the merchandise and distributes it to those in need overseas. Think about Academy for a second. They were prepared at each of the last two nights to have every store open. Zambia, Armenia, Nicaragua, Romania. Got to go somewhere like that if you want to get one of their shirts. I'm just telling you, I don't want one. I mean, it would be funny to look at, but I don't want one. Because I'll just feel sad.
Starting point is 01:50:40 All right. Let's talk to Haiti and try to get some shirts. No, my heart's a hard pass. Hi, Gerard. Hey, how's it going, Matt? All right. Hello? I'm well, Gerard.
Starting point is 01:50:53 Go ahead. Yeah, I got to muscle. Gerard can't hear. But, yeah, quick thing on AJ Hitch, man. AJ Hitch. AJ Hitch is a great, very good manager, man. But I'm going to use this comparison and another sport, man. To me, he's the P. Carroll of the NFL.
Starting point is 01:51:09 You know, Pete Carroll won a championship with Seattle had a good chance to win a championship. another championship was there out of back to back. But he didn't make the car that he should have made. He gave the ball the beast mode down there in the red zone on the one-yard line. He didn't do that. He allowed Russell Wilson in the past, and the ball got intercepted in the rest of his history of Tom Brady against his fifth ring.
Starting point is 01:51:29 Same thing. I'm going to use that compared to what happened in the seventh inning with AJ Hitch. Man, I thought he should have stuck with Grinky, man. Gricky pitch well. Even the guy he walked in Soto. That was a boiling line pitch at 2-1. I thought it should have been 2-2, but it went to 3-1. The Umpires thought missed that car.
Starting point is 01:51:46 He kind of squeezed drinking on that one, and after that he went on and walked Soto, didn't want to let their best player beat him. And then A.J. Hitch came in and brought in, you know, Will Harris. And Will Harris wouldn't have been a bad call, but the night before, you know, AJ Hitz said that Will Harris was gas. He gave it up to the last game.
Starting point is 01:52:04 So why would you bring a guy that you said the night before was gas into a situation where you need to get too critical outs? don't understand that at all. It costs us. The bullpen wasn't able to hold up. Man, I would have stuck with Grinky, and maybe we'll let this bring coal in, maybe at the top of the eighth,
Starting point is 01:52:21 or, you know, that's all I did. Maybe bring coal in at the top of the eighth and let him try to close it out. But he made that decision, cost us, and we just got to go back to the drawboard next year, man. We still got a good corridor, you know,
Starting point is 01:52:34 make a couple of subtle changes. Maybe, maybe get a little bit more hidden toward the end of our lineup. a little more consistent hitting and then look to keep the bullpen stronger and add probably another diamond in the rough type of start to add on with Burland and Grinky Man. But it was just a tough loss man, you know. You know, I want them to be mentioned with the great teams.
Starting point is 01:52:56 San Francisco Giants, they won with three championships and, what, five years, you know, kind of missed out on Gary Cole being Berngarner, being that moment with Bergenner, coming in and, you know, pitch and lift his legendary status in post-season history. but it just didn't transpired, man. But AJ Hitch, to me, is Pete Carroll, 2.0, man. Pete Carroll, NFL. Very good coach. Very good manager, man.
Starting point is 01:53:20 But decision may be cost us to win two championships in three years. Thank you, Gerard. 225 if you're playing at home. Back to wrap things up momentarily. It is the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 790. Hey, it's Jeff Blum. Blum fact number 14. I was on the White Sox in 2005.
Starting point is 01:53:42 Yeah, sorry about that sweep, H-Town. But we're all good right now, right? World Series champion! Back to your lunchtime champion, Matt Thomas. I'm not getting Monster Mash, am I? No, this is some weird remix. It's not labeled as such. It's not bad.
Starting point is 01:54:24 All right, let's get to as many calls as we can. If we can't get to you, we're going to hold you over for Adam and because I know they'll want to visit with you as well. We're here for you all day today, all day tomorrow, and probably for the next six months if we have to, all the way to start of the 2020 season. Let's go in terms of the longest wait. We'll go to Manuel.
Starting point is 01:55:02 We'll listen to us in Ladera Beach, California. Manuel, what's a good word? It's been a while since I called you guys. I'm more of a rocket fan. I'm going to switch this call to a little bit. Sure. I'm just so excited. about this season.
Starting point is 01:55:23 I know that their defense is the greatest. They're not shut down defense, but their offense is unprecedented. When you have not one, but two guys that can just blow up for 40, 50 points at any given night, this is going to be amazing. It's going to be like that song, I can do anything you can do better.
Starting point is 01:55:44 So they're just going to keep going at each other all season long. I mean, I watched that game last night. You guys were watching the Astros game, and I felt bad for you guys at books. But, man, that 59 points, it was like, it was unreal. It was like, there was nobody that could get in front of them. So how good was a Rockets game? Hold on. Hold on, Manuel.
Starting point is 01:56:04 How good was a Rockets game last night? That game was insane. Really? Yeah. For 317 points in one game without a overtime. What? I mean, seriously. I know defense with championships, and it'll come.
Starting point is 01:56:19 Win it matters in the most of the playoffs. I think it really will. But right now, they're just an offer, they're going to demolish the Warriors' records of just points and points in the season and all this stuff. Because there's nobody can stop them. It's hard as having a bad game. They just toss it over to the West,
Starting point is 01:56:35 and Russ will just demolish them and just keep attacking the rim. We just need to work on our three-point overall precise to shooting three-pointers and then work on team defense and just keep working on it. When it matters the most at the end, I know they're going to be there. I hope you're right. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:56:53 Thank you, Manuel, for the phone call. Appreciate listening. Ross, sounds like a great game I missed last night. Damn. Yeah, Matt. Sounds like it was a game for the ages. Too bad you couldn't be around for it. Too bad I took a breath in between the game.
Starting point is 01:57:10 713-1-2-1-2-5-7-90. Let's go to Manuel. We're just teasing. We love you. You know that. Let's go to Corey on the north side on 7-90. I get two fifty three. Hi, Corey.
Starting point is 01:57:22 What's going on with you, man? I'm good. How y'all fellas doing today? Great. Great, great. Okay, well, you know, sorry for the Astros, man. You know, my Astros thing, you know, it hurt, but, you know, we little fight another day. I want to tell the city to keep it up.
Starting point is 01:57:43 You know, how they head is up, man. We're going to be back next year. But I had two questions, man. I wanted to know about the Rockets, about that defense, man. I know, you know, it's going to take a little while to get it together. You mean not exist a defense?
Starting point is 01:58:00 There was no defense to play last night. Zero, none, none, nada. Zero. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. But, like, they brought in Benz Dillick,
Starting point is 01:58:12 as far as the coaching goes. Who is actually the piece of coordinator over there at the Rockets? I don't think they've got it necessarily a sign. to a particular coach. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I think right now they're in a, let's just go score as many points as humanly possible
Starting point is 01:58:29 and try to get her done and we'll work on the intricacies later on. Oh, okay. And my other question was, where would you put, because I know earlier you was like, as far as like the, I guess, the top heartbreaks as far as Houston sports goes. Right. Where would you put that three-farner by John Stockler at the top of the key to go to the... Oh.
Starting point is 01:58:49 See, I forgot about this. That one sucked, too. That's a top tenor for sure. Thank you very much for the phone call. I appreciate you dropping that in, that more misery. Ross, we forgot about old John Stockton in 98 dropping the three ball at the compact center. Somebody, yeah, somebody tweeted us about that as well. That was definitely an all-timer.
Starting point is 01:59:13 That was after the EJ shot earlier in the series. Was it the exact game before? Yeah, that pasty white Utah. Jazz, John Stockton, Carl Malone holding on to Clyde Drexler and Charles Barrow. Oh, and Barclay shorts. Yeah. Yeah. On that note, I think we should do the Monster Mash.
Starting point is 01:59:32 Everybody right now, with a minute left of my show, Ross, here we go. The late one night, when my eyes beheld an eerie sight for my monster from a slab began to rise. This is at least as good as like half the Beatles hits. This is the song you must play. It's like playing O Holy Night during the holiday season. I don't do that either. I'm more of all I want for Christmas is you kind of guy. I like just talking like this guy.
Starting point is 02:00:05 What's that song that we're not allowed to play anymore? About rape or whatever? I play that one on Christmas. It's cold outside. That's what I'm going to go have some Italian food tonight. I'm going to go watch some trick-or-treaters in Midtown Manhattan and see how crazy it gets. Back with you guys tomorrow for more on the Astro Sadness.
Starting point is 02:00:23 We'll mix some football in as well. For Ross, for Nick. I'm Matt. Thank you, everybody. We had a lot of fun despite talking about a sucky topic. A team is next on Sports Talk 7-9. The guests included Wolfman, Dracula, and his son. The scene was rocking over digging the sounds.
Starting point is 02:00:47 Igor on chains back by his baying hounds The coffin bangers were about to arrive With their vocal group, the crypt kicker five They played the monster match It was a graveyard smack They played the mash It got on in a flash They played the match
Starting point is 02:01:08 They played the monster mash Out from his coffin match

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