The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - The Matt Thomas Show 11-05-19
Episode Date: November 5, 2019The Matt Thomas Show w/ @SportsMT, @SportsRV, and @ProNickLow 11/5/19Matt is already sick of The Black Cat (10:55)What You Talkin Bout Bill O'Brien (49:26)Rumors of LA Chargers moving to London (58:43...)Deshaun Watson's MVP Candidacy (1:35:13)
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Yeah.
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Good afternoon to you and welcome to a Tuesday edition of the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 7-90 alongside SportsRV at ProNiclaw.
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Twitter is out there already.
Hope that you all find us.
What do you mean?
What's happening on Twitter?
Everything okay?
Everything's good?
I've loved this mute button that you've told me out.
I told you, Matt, this mute button is therapeutic.
It is, it feels really, really good.
It does.
Hope you guys are in a fantastic mood today, back in studio after being gone a week after the Rockets first and will be of many road trips this year, two and two.
After last night's win against the Memphis Grizzlies, just when you think you feel bad about your local basketball team, you could be Memphis.
They went three of eight, I want to think, in the first quarter of last night's game from three.
And I think I remember saying they had missed the next 16 after that.
John Morant, very good.
Rest the team.
And is a fun name to say.
Jean Moran.
No, we're not doing French basketball.
He's now, Jamel from, his name is Jamel.
I called him Jai every single time.
You should have done that.
You should have said that.
Oh, and when Memphis comes in here.
What is it? Lééééé-Bont-Tom Roulet, like if he made a three, just drop one of those.
The basketball de Grizzly de Memphis.
We got some French, we got some French music somewhere.
My favorite thing you do as far as...
It's horrible impersonations.
The French one to me is the best one.
You mean the best of the worst?
It's an underrated...
It's like a Matt Thomas Show deep cut is what it is.
That's right.
And it's one of my favorites.
I got a lot of deep cuts
But I haven't seen either one of you guys in a week
Hi, how are you doing?
You look a little
Grizzled?
Yeah, I'm going with the no shave bit for a while.
Okay.
So the next round is how frothy do I get the beard?
The Astros are out of the playoffs.
You don't have to have a playoff beard.
I was going with a Rockets'
defense beard for a while.
That's why I had to grow for a while.
Thank God they showed up.
Hey, I'll tell you what, in all seriousness,
Daniel House was really good last night.
and James got his mojo back from three.
Eric didn't shoot well from three,
but I had one of the most emphatic dunks
that you'll ever see in the NBA.
And I thought Daniel Houssted it on both ends of the floor defensively,
and it also helps at Memphis sucks.
So you know what?
Two and two is a road trip.
Back home tomorrow night for the Golden State Warriors.
Rossi, I have not looked at the Golden State Warriors roster intentionally,
but I don't know if I would have known of maybe more than four or five players.
It is a completely different group.
They got that guy Pascal
that's apparently good and
maybe some kind of
good rookie, but other than that, I mean,
what was the, let me try to find you
the starting lineup of the
Golden State Warriors yesterday.
It was basically unintelligible.
Because a couple of years ago, during the Western
finals, TNT covered
my announcements of the lineups, and I
was really,
I wasn't very complimentary at the Golden
State Warriors when I introduced him.
I was shading them very hard.
And it got a lot of run.
But there were recognizable names that were Step Curry,
Henri Godalla, there was Clay Thompson, there was Draymond Green.
Let me give you the starting lineup with the Golden State Warriors.
Okay.
Jordan Poole.
That's P-O-O-L-E.
Yes.
Kai Bowman.
Your thoughts on him?
None.
Willie Cully Stein at the five?
Former Sacramento King.
Or at the pivot, right?
Do you call the center of the pivot or was that power for it?
Big man, man in the middle, five.
I don't call him pivot.
But if I were to say pivot, that would be the five, right?
Or would that be the four?
Okay.
Glenn Robinson, the third.
And Eric Pascal.
Yeah.
That's your starting lineup.
I know Willie Colley.
And who could forget our Mari Spelman coming off the bench, along with Marquis I demand a trade from the Rockets Chris and Alex.
Marquis, Chris.
You know, he and I actually got along pretty well.
Really?
Yeah, we did.
You guys are, like you go to the movies together on the road and stuff?
Not movies.
Apples massage?
No.
Okay.
But we hung in some circles.
Okay, good.
You're playing Boutray?
That's a serious game.
I can't play Boutre.
You can't pay Bool-Rae with the guys making $40 million a year.
That's a lot of my price range.
I mean, I wouldn't mind trying, but you can't.
I don't think you can gamble with your buddies when the buddies bring thousands and thousands
and thousands of dollars of cash, and you are playing with $10 and $20 bills.
Yeah, I don't think you can buy in, Matt.
There's like a minimum buy-in.
Yeah, I'm not in that.
I don't think you can make that.
All right.
So here's the agenda today.
Aaron Reese, our normal Texans beat writer, covers for the journal on the Journal.
The Athletic is still in Europe.
He's taking hashtag well-deserved vacation time.
He can't call us from London, but give us an update on what's going on over there,
what Buckingham Palace is looking like.
He tried to high-five a guard.
Can I be serious about London for a second?
Yes.
And this is the story speaking of the athletic that I frankly hope has leg.
to it. There was a report in the athletic that it appears that London is now locked and loaded,
ready to go with an NFL team going to play there. There is one NFL team that is getting a home
built for them. That's really, they're going to share it. But nobody in that city cares about that
team. And they knew at the moment they got there, that nobody cared. And we're speaking of the Los Angeles
Chargers. What if you got the Chargers to forget about Los Angeles.
move to London.
You could, and now you're saying,
well, how do you handle the scheduling?
Well, it wouldn't be optimum.
My guess is you would play three home games in a row,
followed by three road games,
three home and three roads.
So you'd keep the teams in their continent for as long as possible.
You move London, the AFC East.
You move the Texans.
Excuse me, you move the Miami Dolphins to the AFC South.
and you move the Houston Texans to the AFC West,
where you would play Denver, Kansas City,
and Las Vegas every single year twice.
Is this, are you just making this up or there's reports on this?
No, they were storing the athletic about it.
Okay.
Again, it's just conjecture.
And that's what the athletic largely is,
is speculation conjecture and what they're hearing whispers,
if you know what I'm saying.
I think that's a way more interesting division to be in than the AFC South.
To me, the AFC South is just a bunch of teams are like,
we don't know what to do with y'all, so y'all just play each other.
Yeah, I mean.
Like Indianapolis, what?
In the South?
Yeah.
There is no rival.
The Texans and Titans have tried to be rivals, but neither one have been good enough to be rivals.
It's always been one team.
Usually, I mean, it was generally the Colts dominating,
basically the entire first decade of the division.
and then a little bit of Jaguars,
like a random David Garard
and the Jaguars are decent with Fred Taylor or whatever.
I mean, it was just, yeah.
They're four, and really, and it's not four.
They're three nondescript, non-interesting,
non-epic type football teams.
Now, the Texans would love to someday be one of those.
I think the Colts are.
Yeah, nobody ever goes to the Jaguars are in town,
division rivals, let's go.
Like when America finds out the NFL schedule
and the Titans and Jaguars
are playing on Sunday football or Thursday night. Yeah. Oh, God.
Great. Speaking of primetime football, I did not see any of the Dallas New York game because
obviously I was working in Memphis last night and traveling. Were you walking in Memphis as well?
I had my feet 10 feet off of bill if you're asking. Okay. I don't want to hear about the damn
cat anymore. Why not? It's only one night. But everybody's like, hey, wacky morning show. Let's get into
you, what's that cat doing at the game?
Give us your funniest responses.
How did the black cat get into the stadium?
Call us.
And let me tell you something.
In all honesty,
Kevin Harlan is one of the goats of the playoff and he nailed it like he normally has.
Yes, he did.
But he,
it's now,
he always does it so it's not nearly a special.
Well,
the drunk guy getting tackled call is just the greatest of all time that Kevin
Harlan did.
That is true.
But Animal in football stadium?
him. I mean, Kevin's kind of been there, done that. I don't blame him. He nails the call every time he
does it. Yeah, he's got to do it. I mean, what else is he going to do on Westwood One? He's
getting plugs in as well. I'm sure the sponsor like that.
Don't do it. You're going to hurt yourself.
It's going to hurt my throat. I don't want to do that. Yeah, do we have that. We have that
Kevin Harlan call, right? In the Black Hat? Yeah, we'll play it come out of the project here.
Just so we can just play it and be done with it. I think it's great. And Kevin Harlan is
American Treasure, Matthew?
Kevin Harlan, not only is a fantastic broadcaster, but he's a super nice person.
Yes. I met him at Super Bowl in Indianapolis. He was very...
Kevin Harland's awesome. Iron Eagle is really, really cool.
Isn't his daughter married to somebody Houston related?
Yeah, Olivia.
Yeah. Former Rock at Sam Decker.
Oh, that's right.
A couple of crazy kids making millions of dollars.
What's Sam Decker up to?
Can you even name where Sam Decker's playing?
Is he...
I think he's been bounced like the six different...
Is he Cleveland?
He was in Cleveland. Then he went to the Washington Wizards,
and now he's playing for something called PBC Locomotive Kuban in Russia.
A former rocket first round pick, correct?
Out of the league.
Oh, he's in a league.
He's just not the league.
From Sheboigan, Wisconsin.
Yeah, and Olivia is from that area too.
She goes over to Russia?
Like, if your husband is an NBA player and he's in Russia?
No, she's doing college football on the weekend.
She can't be going.
It's a long distance.
That is a long distance.
That's unfortunate.
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What Ross and I kind of dance around ever so slightly yesterday needs more consideration.
I'm ready for the Deshawn Watson MVP chase and banter to continue.
We'll discuss more of that.
We'll get into the Rockets if you so choose.
Paceball's postseason awards were announced.
A.J. Hinch, not a finalist for manager of the year.
But Aaron Boone is?
Matt Thomas returns.
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A black cat is taking the field.
A black cat is running from the 20 to the near side, the 10.
From the 39 in Dallas, here's a short throw down the middle, caught by Ingram.
Caught at the 35, went to the 30.
Now the cat running the other way, and so is Ingram at the 30 to the 25 to the 24-yard line of the Dallas Cowboys.
It's a catcher run of 15.
Now the cat has stopped at the 50.
So is it bad luck for the Giants?
I don't know.
Cowboys?
I don't know, but they've stopped playing the players with hands on hips
are watching the cat run and zigzag all over the field.
The Black Cat is at the other end of the field.
He's at the 8th.
He doesn't know that it was last Thursday that was Halloween.
Thursday night football.
He's a little bit late.
Now he is sitting and looking.
Now he's at the five.
He's walking.
He's walking to the three.
He's at the two.
And the cat is in the CDW red zone.
CDW.
People who get it now.
A policeman.
State troopers come on the field.
And the cat runs into the end zone.
That is a touchdown.
And the cat is elusive.
Kind of like Barclay and Elliott.
But he didn't know where to go.
Look at they're trying to corner him.
And they got him in the end zone.
There are state troopers all around this cat, which now climbs up into the stands.
And the fans are running for their line.
Now it goes back on the field again.
And it's running in the back of the end zone.
And it runs up the tunnel.
That's why Kevin Harlan's one of the best.
As a play-by-play, man, you have to respect Matt that he got in the Red Zone sponsor for the cat.
Yeah, CDW, which I don't even know what that is.
I don't know either.
Really appreciates that.
Really, really appreciates that.
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So how much of the Dallas-New York Giants game
did you see last night?
I watched about two and a half quarters of it.
When you look at the Dallas Cowboys,
we have quite a few Dallas-listened fans
for some stupid reason.
Do you think they're on par with New Orleans
a Seattle, if you will, in the NFC?
Because they were my pick for the Super Bowl.
They've been a, I mean, like basically every NFL team, except for the top of the top, they're up and down.
They're heckling Jekyll and Hyde.
I mean, you had them win their first three games, and they looked like they were going to dominate the NFC.
Then they go and lose to Teddy Bridgewater and the Saints.
And the Jets?
They lost to the...
How do they lose to the Jets?
Yeah.
Can someone explain that to me?
How did the Cowboys lose to the Jets, who just lost to the Dolphins?
And then the last two weeks versus the Eagles and Giants, they look good again, but against not great competition.
So I think at the end of the day, they're not St. Calibur.
They're probably not even Seahawks caliber.
They're like, they're Tier 2, Tier 3 NFC.
You know, and I'll be honest, I don't listen to a lot of Dallas sports radio.
I don't listen to a lot of other city sports radio, but I'm assuming that every city has the same frustrations with their coach.
Yeah, we did it when we were in Fresno.
We did, and we were like, again, it's to each.
his own. Those people, you know, they have their style, we have our style. And I'm thinking,
could you imagine listening to Dallas Sportswear? I can't imagine Jason Garrett fan club is
significantly large depth there. But don't the Cowboys and the Texans kind of mirror themselves
in terms of a coach that is beloved by the owner, but not really beloved by anybody else?
We made the, didn't we talk about this last year? Would you rather have Bill O'Brien or Jason
Garrett and we kind of threw up in our mouths a little bit.
Or maybe, you know, actually, you might have been off and it might have been me and
Brian Smith. Yeah. I don't,
there isn't a whole lot of difference.
Right. The only difference is the Cowboys have gone to the playoffs. I would say the
Cowboys haven't fallen flat as the Texans have as much as
the Cowboys have. But if you're a Dallas Cowboy fan
right now, are you running around town bragging about your squad?
I don't think so. So, well, let me pull a Matt Thomas on you.
Okay.
Bill O'Brien or Jason Garrett on three.
One, two, three.
Jason Garrett.
Ooh.
If you actually, if you look at them, their careers are actually remarkably similar.
How about this?
General manager, Jerry Jones, or Bill O'Brien.
One, two, three.
Bill O'Brien.
So Jason Garrett in his first three full seasons went eight and eight.
Bill O'Brien went nine and seven in his first full three seasons.
Then he went 12 and four and then four and 24.
Didn't Bill O'Brien go like 10 and 6 and then 4 and 12?
Yeah.
And got a new contract after that 4 and 12 season.
So you know what it is?
They're actually remarkably similar.
Yeah.
Then there's no reason to have a judge.
Yeah.
Because if you're choosing either a hamburger or a chopped steak, same thing.
Same exact thing.
So let's try this again.
Head coach.
Jason Garrett or Bill.
Bill O'Brien.
One, two, three.
None of the above.
Bill O'Brien.
Jason, I don't know.
Jason Garrett, I guess.
Jason Garrett.
He's won two playoff games.
Because let me tell you something.
It's not easy to have the owner and be the general manager at the same time.
Garrett's gone 12 and 4 and 13 and 3.
Bill O'Brien hasn't done that.
So really, it's the two fan bases that should be looking at each other going, man, I feel for you.
The other fan bases, I kind of feel for you.
But that's why things might change in the next three weeks if the Texans can go two-on-one
against Baltimore, Indianapolis, and New England.
You're going under.
Are you really?
So if they go under, what's the fan base going to say?
Because look, truth be...
I'm not going to be saying that.
Truth be told, when the Texans lose, people cannot run to our show fast enough to complain about how horrific Bill O'Brien is.
When Bill O'Brien designs and implements a good game plan,
when Deshaun Watson does well,
when the defense only allows three points to Jacksonville,
you are in a spot where you're like, okay, that's good.
That's a thing.
We as Houston sports fans,
or I guess people who are watching the Texans,
we crush Bill O'Brien when they lose games.
We talk about how he doesn't know what he's doing,
he doesn't know his head from him of his ass,
he's doing too much stuff and all this.
Then when they went, we say, oh, it's Deshawn Watson.
So if we're giving him all of the blame,
we have to give him some of the credit, right?
I think that's absolutely accurate.
So let's give him some props.
Pre-snap penalties will not be one of them.
Timeout management would not.
Use of challenges.
Challenges wouldn't be.
Although he hasn't.
Look, I think the whole league's having a difficult time on challenges.
I don't remember there being maybe more than one or two that were just, what are you doing?
There were some that's not going to change.
Like past interference calls aren't being changed.
You know, I hate the run up to the middle of the line with all 11 players on both sides
and then having the official try to spot the ball challenge that.
That rarely ever changes too.
So let's talk about what he does, what he has done right.
He has included the tight end of the offense.
I mean, fells and company, all the Jordans.
They have done an amazing job of getting that run pass option.
And as I talked about on the show yesterday, Ross, that little slide play that the tight end goes to
when he goes across the line of scrimmage and is on a crossing route,
that's been in the Texans playbook for about six weeks now.
And team defenses,
which are some of them,
the Texans that face have been pretty good,
still haven't been able to way to figure it out.
He's done a really good job of putting Deshawn Watson in situations where he can succeed.
He's really good in those types of situations,
deciding whether or not to run.
He's good in those in play action as well because he gets,
and more of an opportunity to scan the field in those situations.
and then he can just basically dissect defenses is what he does.
So tip of the cat to Bill O'Brien.
No, I think in this run where there's six and three, he does deserve some credit.
Here's where I think people are just antsy about it.
Okay, so this team gets to 11 and 5 or 10 and 6 wins a division, plays a home playoff game.
When is he going to win the coaching matchup?
He can beat Doug Marone.
Well, yes, he can.
Most people can.
chess master.
But Frank, right, I coached him in the
playoff game last year.
Absolutely.
Bill Belichick, he's never been able to be.
Well, most people can't.
Right.
If it's Andy Reid
versus Bill O'Brien
in a head-to-head coaching matchup
in a weekend of a playoff game,
who do you like?
Who's going to screw up
the last two minutes of that game more?
Yeah, I mean, both of me like,
yeah, let's just throw the headsets down.
1229 to the Matt Thomas show.
So the reality is this.
We have to give him
props. It's not difficult to do so because the team is winning, beating some pretty good
teams in the mix, going to London, which is never easy, and thriving, yet despite some still
problems, like your best defensive player gone for the year, your offensive line has
been a state of influx, and the fact is you've not been able to rely on two-thirds of your
receiving core that you thought you were going to be able to when the season started.
Will Fuller's got the obligatory hamstring injury,
and Kiki Kootie is in the doghouse.
It's Matt, and he's back.
The Matt Thomas Show on 790.
Houston's home for Houston teams.
We're going to do a little what you're talking about Bill O'Brien at 1 o'clock.
You guys okay with that?
Yes.
He didn't talk about a whole lot.
We got two bits of breaking news as well, by the way, Matthew.
What's fair to that breaking news sound around?
Hold on, it's broken.
Breaking news.
Stuff broken up here, that would never happen.
First bit of news, this according to Adam Schaefter and others.
The Panthers have placed Cameron Newton on injured reserve.
His season is done, Matthew.
My seventh round picking fantasy football.
Dang.
Kyle Allen, the former Houston Cougar.
And Aggie.
The former Cougar.
And he's like a Daniel L. House in reverse.
Yeah, you know how much.
And Daniel was really good last night for the Rockets,
and I always announce his name is Texas A&M.
Yeah.
I do want to sneak in U of H once in a while.
Why did he leave U of H?
Because he didn't think Calvin Sampson was the right person for his professional career.
Oh, okay.
He thought the other guy was.
What was the guy who's coach at A&M?
I can't remember.
I'm staring at him now.
Bill Kennedy?
Yeah.
He thought Bill Kennedy was the answer.
Okay.
Not Bill Kennedy.
something Kennedy.
Wasn't it?
Maybe it was Bill Kennedy.
Whatever.
Was it John? John F.?
No.
Former Aggie bat...
This shows you how
college basketball is not on the top of brain.
Yeah, Bill Kennedy.
Bill Kennedy.
He thought Bill Kennedy would help him
reach greater heights.
Bill Kennedy, yeah.
He's not there anymore, right?
No, it's Buzz Peterson now, right?
Okay, sure.
Okay.
By the way, college basketball season starts tonight?
Yes.
You got shock of smart.
in action with the Longhorns tonight.
Who they play?
Northern Colorado or something like that?
The top four teams are playing each other in college
basketball? That's like
it's like they're going to the auto racing
Daytona 500. Let's have our biggest race of the year
the very first race. Yes, Northern Colorado.
Big matchup.
Are you embarrassed?
Why I'm embarrassed?
It's early in season. They got a pretty good non-conference.
You got Purdue in there.
And?
A&M.
Corpus Christi.
No, A&M, A&M.
It's like a lone star showdown.
Oh, nice.
You're telling me the football and basketball teams are the teams of their greatest rivalry.
In baseball as well.
And it can play in basketball and in baseball, but can't play in football.
All right.
Non-conference has Purdue.
They're ranked.
People don't care.
Georgetown.
You brought it up.
What's the second bit of breaking news?
A&M, Providence.
Okay, enough.
You're right.
My fault.
The High Point Panthers?
What is the second bit of breaking news?
Quick question, though.
What is the High Point Panthers?
The Longhorns are playing them in basketball.
Yeah, they're like a high school.
They're like a big South team, I think.
Okay.
Or, you know, Southern Conference.
Second big of breaking news is that.
What was it?
I forget.
Okay, when it comes up, let me know.
Oh, that's right.
Nick Foles is going to be the starting quarterback going forward for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
You're welcome.
Houston Texans defense did that to you.
Garner Menchew could not hold on to the football in the second half to save his life.
Great mustache, though.
But, yeah, so it's going to be Nick Foles going forward for the Jaguars.
I mean, I think if you go class half full on them, can they make a lot of them?
Can they make any moves in the AFC South?
Yeah, they're four and five.
They're two back.
Right.
And now the only difference is they are 0-and-2 against a Texan,
so they would lose a tie-breaker against Texans,
the two teams from the tie at the end of the year.
I thought nobody's going to get swept in the division.
Well, I still believe that's mostly going to be the case.
Okay.
Let's go to Brandon in Spring at 1238.
Brandon, how are you?
Good, Matt.
You guys are really good for radio, man.
I enjoy listening to the year.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yes, sir. Hey, but I heard you kind of, and I don't know what you're hitting at with Aaron Boone being a possible manager of the year.
I don't know if you were leaning for it. You think AJ should be in that group.
I don't think E or AJ are going to win it. It's just I don't understand why Aaron Boone gets to be in an A.J. doesn't. I'm just curious.
Well, I mean, I think it goes back to, you know, I think, you know, when Golden State was in their heyday, should Steve Kerr be considered a coach of the year.
every year. I mean, you
have four guys
this year and had Al Tuvei
and Springer probably stayed healthy.
Springer may have ran
Mike Trout down with his numbers.
And then you had two of the
leading, I mean, one and two, Tsai Young
winners, not to mention
you add a third. That guy was,
you know, he was going to be a consideration
in the National League as a Cy Young.
But, you know,
I'm not a big AJ Hinch fan
when he comes to in-game. I love
you guys doing the interviews, I think he's very transparent.
I love the fact that he does buy in the analytics.
I think that analytics is basically proven out.
Even with Mori, I think it's proven out that he can put Chuckers out there
and the Rockets are going to win 50 games.
So I do like the fact that he buys into the analytics.
But am I the only one who gets really like,
I kind of awkward feeling whenever AJ Hinch walks out to the mound?
like kind of shakes his hips really fast and like almost like he's a runway model type thing.
I don't know.
I just get an awkward feeling when he walked out.
What about you?
I've never looked at AJ's hips before.
Thanks for the prank call, I suppose, I guess.
Is that what that was?
I think.
Yeah, that was a long-winded prank call.
Yeah, he took the long way home.
Yeah, we tuned down.
So if it was a prank, I, you know.
But I have not checked on AJ Hinch's hips or noticed any particular.
way that he walks. Now, if he strutted, I would notice that.
Hmm. Like a Saturday night fever type strut? Right. Right. Like if he put his hand up in the far
right, going down to the left. Yeah. Up right to the down left. What if a manager did that? Or like
Moon walked on the way all the way to the mound? Now, you know if Rick Flair would strut.
That's true. If he went to a Rick Flair strut, I mean, that's when you're, if you're pulling a
Josh Reddick from the game,
don't you have to go with the strut?
That's true.
I remember the first time you did that,
I had no idea what the Rick Flair strut was.
I thought you were having a stroke.
No, it's patented.
Yeah. I have never looked at his hit movement.
No, me either.
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That's true. David and downtown on 790. Hi, David.
Hey, man, Rob, good talking to you. I wouldn't comment about this, but Aaron Boone to me,
you know, he had more talent than Gerardi did. I don't be any of the D.C.
I mean, I measured a year candidate at all. But the reason I was calling was just,
I know the post-mortem on the Astros and Matt, we go to the, we always go to the
NC State game and the Buffalo game at the two games that will probably never be repeated.
Right.
I would agree those are probably more chokes than this game seven.
I do think it was interesting when Clyde and Dream were the two fellas that were out before game six,
and it seemed like the nationals split the script on us, and they were the 1995 Rockets,
you know, coming down from in series.
time and time again, and it just felt like they were just a team of destiny.
Just your comments on that, and, you know, initially I was very upset with Hinch,
pulling Grinky, but it just felt like the nationals were going to, we're going to come back
and win no matter who's on the mound.
They just seemed like they just made, you know, all the right plays and all the right moments.
And it disappointing is definitely the word, because I felt like in 2017, the Dodgers were
the equal of the Astros, and if we would have worked,
lost that series that probably wouldn't have been disappointed.
This is just so much more disappointing this time around.
Thank you.
Thank you for the phone call.
I mean, I think when your team loses, regardless of how it happens, it's disappointing.
And I'm sad because I think there is such a difference between hoisting the World Series
Championship and being that close.
I mean, there's no parade.
There's no meeting the president.
There's no rings.
there's no, I mean, there's nothing for second place.
Especially when you finish second place,
when you're down the stretch in horse racing,
and you lose by an eighth?
I mean, what would be a small, what's one of the small?
By a nose, so to speak.
You still get paid, though, when you get second in a horse race.
The Astros got paid.
They got American League.
They're getting American League rings.
They're getting American League pennant.
They're getting American League trophy.
They're all getting playoffs onuses.
I think I said Buzz Peterson earlier.
It's Buzz Williams, the coach.
Yeah, one of the buzzes.
Again, if you're a grown-ass man named Buzz, you shouldn't even be involved.
Buzz Alder will come over here and sock you in the mouth for saying that.
Yeah, that's true.
To the point, though, I mean, I'm sad.
Are you devastated?
Are you, are you depressed?
I'm, like, disappointed, but I'm not depressed.
Because somebody has to lose every year.
In fact, yeah.
29 teams lose every year.
I remember thinking before game five of the ALDS if they lose this season as a failure.
Correct.
I didn't have that feeling game seven.
I said if they lose, it wasn't meant to be.
The nationals are a really good team.
They came in really hot.
They'd won eight in a row at one point in the playoffs and all this stuff.
And you know what?
It's just not their year.
That's what I was thinking.
I would have been devastated for Tampa, massively disappointed with the Yankees.
I'm just generally disappointed because the Nationals were excellent.
Matt Thomas continues on Sports Talk 7-19.
Your rockets, your Astros, your voice.
All right, time for the hour.
We're going to play what you're talking about Bill.
Well, Ross will try to guess the soundbikes from Bill O'Brien's press coverage.
It's only time the team is officially meeting with media this week
as the guys will have the rest of the league off and then getting ready for Baltimore.
Some college football news.
A former guest of the Matt Thomas show Bob Stoops,
who is the current coach of the Dallas XFL team.
You know, in our media business,
when you have national riders from ESPN,
the athletic, a sports illustrated, if you will,
major networks, you kind of trust their sources.
I don't know if you trust WTXF in Tallahassee, ABC 27.
Okay.
So ABC 27, your home for amazing Florida State Seminole coverage,
reported that Bob Stoops is in serious negotiations
and could be named as soon as later this week as a new head football coach at Florida State.
Well, Bob Stubes was in Miami at a Damarino event and said,
no, I'm not interested, I didn't apply, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Is that what he's supposed to say?
Or do you think he really does believe it?
I think Bob Stubes would be a fantastic hire anywhere,
and I think it would be a really good hire at a place like Florida State,
who is having some serious troubles since Jimbo Fisher has left.
I still kind of hate him, though, just because he was OU's head coach.
Like, he's not a bad person.
I don't have anything against him.
I still kind of hate him.
What makes him hateable to you?
Does the fact that he get your squad?
He used to beat the hell out of Mack Brown every year for like a decade.
His visor game was strong.
Yeah, the visor game.
Fiery.
Just making me angry.
Overall, being more excellent than Mac Brown was over their careers.
Well, I think people love him in Oklahoma.
Yeah.
But they're not like he's the greatest thing since sliced bread because they did not have a great run when it came to big time bowl games.
He won the one championship in 2000.
The one I remember him most famously being destroyed was losing to Boise State.
That's true.
And then he made the playoffs.
They would always make the playoffs
and he made the BCS championship game in 2008.
I think he made another one that they lost as well.
I think everybody in Norma.
2003, maybe?
When I was up there for the Cougars versus OU earlier this year,
I think they want to lock up Lincoln Riley for 25 years.
I don't think they ever want anybody else.
I think they love Lincoln Riley.
They love his enthusiasm.
They love it as a very innovative coach.
They love the fact they've had two Heisman trophy winners in a row.
That's not fair.
That's not fair that Texas has to go from Bob Stoop kicking
Poo Stoops kicking Mac Brown's ass to now Lincoln Riley kicking Tom Herman's ass
Yeah
There's no heat on Tom at Texas is there
I think there's a little heat
You lose the TCU
How many of my boss three games this year right?
Yes
Or yes
9 and 3 doesn't cut it in Austin when you're making crazy money correct
When you're making almost $6 million a year
and you're losing to Oklahoma,
and I mean,
LSU was a close game.
But the TCU is the one that's sticking out like a sort of thumb.
And before that,
I mean,
losing,
I mean,
in a 50 to 48 shootout with Kansas
is just about as bad as a loss.
Where you have to have Cameron Dicker
kick a last second kick so you can win.
Literally at the last second.
Yes.
Because Kansas gets a two-point conversion to take the lead.
Right.
48, 47 at the time.
Yeah.
If Dicker doesn't save your ass, basically, you're talking about a three-game losing streak.
I know there's a lot of money that's associated with those big-time jobs and prestige and benefits like private planes and fancy vacations and country club memberships.
But Rossi, if they go nine and three this year, that would be great.
What's a winning percentage of a coach that goes nine and three year and in and year out?
It's pretty damn amazing, right?
3-4, 75%?
75%?
You're a 750 winning percentage.
Last year you go and you beat the tar to Georgia in the Sugar Bowl, right?
The Sugar Bowl?
Yes.
And you're telling me that Tom Herman's feeling heat?
That's a damn tough world in which we live in, right?
Well, there's a couple loseable games.
Kansas State at home is ranked.
People don't know this.
I say that because I didn't know this before this week.
And then you've got to go to.
Iowa State, and then you've got to go to Baylor.
And Baylor's playing really well.
So this is, I don't know that they're going to win out.
So if you go eight and four.
So what are you, what are you supposed to do?
If you're a successful coach and you get a dream job opportunity,
and these dream jobs are going to pay you crazy amounts money.
Like, for instance, Jimbo Fisher could have comfortably stayed at Florida State, right?
Could have won his nine, ten games every year.
Maybe going to, I mean, he held him to a couple of national playoff appearances, right?
I mean, this is built a very successful.
program. He just got bored. He just got bored.
Well, 75 million guaranteed sounds pretty good as well.
So he gets this amazing guaranteed, no doubt about it, you'll get every penny of the deal.
How is he supposed to succeed?
A&M hasn't even gone to an SEC championship game, and you're paying the guy like he better
win two championships in the next five years. I mean, I just think college athletics, for all the
things that it's amazing about and it's fun and the pageantry is whack because of the amount
of money they were being paid and the little time you have to build a program. Could you imagine
if AJ, if Jeff Luno was being paid $10 million a year to rebuild the Astros, he'd have been
fired because it took three straight losing seasons just to get to the walled card.
the following year they'd come up just a little bit short.
And then finally, in season six, they win the championship.
Can Tom Herman go five years of nine and three?
Eight and four, and people in Austin are going to lose their mind?
How does A&M pay Jimbo $75 million?
And if Jimbo is in year five, if they're eight and four, playing in the Gator Bowl again,
do you understand where I'm going with this?
Yeah.
The money is great.
You can't turn down the job.
But my gosh, you have 10 to 15 programs in this country paying obscene amount of money for these college football coaches that there is no, like, hell, my president of my university, Renew Couture.
When Major gets fired, she says we fire coaches that go 9 and 3 or whatever she is.
8.4, I think.
Hell, I would die for 8.4 right now.
That comment's probably going to come back to bite her.
Not probably.
it is. It is biting her in the ass. And she's a great president. It's, I just think,
and maybe in the NFL, it's a little different because you've got a drafting system, you have
free agency, you've got a general manager, you've got ownership, I mean, you're going to win
and do it the right way. But if you are, you have too many people in college athletics,
too many different programs spending obscene amounts of cash. Like USC might fire Clay Hilton and
try to bring in Urban Meyer.
They're not bringing an Urban Meyer to go 8 and 4 at USC.
They're bringing, they want Urban Meyer because he took Ohio State to a national championship
and took Florida a national championship.
Yeah, that's the thing.
You have two, you have so many programs across the country that say we need to be winning the championship.
And we're just going to throw every dollar we can at this person.
I mean, if you go down the list of programs that say we should be winning the championship,
you're going to end up with, you're going to count off like 20 programs.
That's just not how it works.
20 programs aren't going to win the national championship.
and A&M did win the free agency battle a couple of years ago with Jimbo.
But you didn't bring Jimbo there to finish third in the SEC yet again.
And they're going to finish the year seven and five.
They just are.
They're not going to be Georgia.
They sure is helling going to be in Alabama or LSU.
That's two more losses for them.
1258.
My next life, Ross, going back as a college football coach.
Yeah.
It's stressful, though.
But stressful.
Chimbo's going to make $75 million.
He might not even last a third.
Well, he'll last a third of his contract.
He may not be there for the final third.
That's a 365 days, though.
I don't know they could go NFL.
You have a little bit about it.
You don't have an offseason as a college coach.
Because you're glad-handed,
alums and whatnot.
You see, the Florida State raised $20 million to buy out
Willie Tigers?
That is absurd.
Who calls him?
Hey, I want to fire my coach.
I need $3 million.
Sure.
You know what?
Yeah.
Maybe you should be a college coach.
Willie Taggart's getting $20 million to go away.
To go away.
713-212-5-7-90.
The second hour, we'll talk to...
We won't talk to Bill O'Brien.
He doesn't come on the show.
We'll talk about, Bill.
Coming up in a matter of moments.
Is the Matt Thomas show.
06 on Sports Talk, 790 with hour number two.
We take you to 3 o'clock.
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713-212-5-7-90.
What you're talking about Bill coming up after we talked to Matt and Tomball on the Matt Thomas show?
Matt, good afternoon.
Yeah, good afternoon, and thank you for taking my call.
Sure.
This is concerning the coaches of college coaching, and we know what our coach at A&M is getting,
excuse me clear my throat, but anyway, about two years ago,
the governor in Missouri was in a lot of trouble and he was being interviewed by the media.
And a journalist asked him, first made a statement, asked,
you're the highest paid, state employee, et cetera, et cetera.
And the governor interrupted the journalist and said, well, first of all,
you've got to go down the road.
You know, Jeff City's not too far from Columbia, Missouri.
You've got to go down the road.
He goes, the head football coach, Missouri makes about 10 times a year more than I do.
And he was telling the truth.
And when you think about it right now in 46 or 47 state to this country,
the highest paid state employee is a head football coach.
Now, I'm not begrudging, you know, a guy making a great salary and they deserve it,
but it just tells you there's a disconnect someplace in some cases.
I don't want to put a limit, you know, and you look at going over still on finances,
but I was really upset with Cole, and I'm a Cardinal fan,
and I was pulling for the Astros, you know, owned by the St. Louis guy.
but when he wore that
ball cap a half an hour after the ball game
the other night when he was interviewed and he had
a Boris
Corpah
I mean I lost it
I went nuts and if I was Jim
Crane at a time I would
well and he said something to the effect
he's no longer an employee
that is crazy
and I was so upset
with him
you know
during that and too many of these people are putting themselves
this is a clothing here
the brand name of their individual
person above the program.
And that kind of happened to do a degree at Tech of A&M.
And, you know, I'm not, actually, football is the one sport I never played.
I played ice hockey.
I box and I played baseball.
But I just don't know how you can pay a guy $75 million.
Yeah.
Well, that's the thing.
And thank you, Matt, for the phone call.
We don't, like, I was telling my wife yesterday about how Garrett Cole, there was a report
that he wants eight years 288, or he thinks that's the range.
and how any you'd pitch you would pay a player $38 million for every fifth day.
We can't.
If we're going to like sports, we just can't think about the money.
We can't think about the money that is being spent because when our heroes play for the teams that we love, we're not concerned about it.
They perform well every fifth day or they hit the home run to win a baseball game.
No, I do.
I've never, you know.
And again, A&M spent $75 million on Jimbo because they said, well, if Jimbo can take Florida State to a national championship game,
he can take ours.
We're A&M.
We have better facilities than Florida State does.
We have a stadium that's going to be bigger than what Florida State does.
We can raise as much money as they can.
We're in the state of Texas where we're just as popular as football is in Florida.
There's no reason why he can't do what he's doing at A&M in Tallahassee, Florida.
Yeah, and you pay him those, the state employee line as well.
I mean, that doesn't do anything for me because you're talking about,
When these coaches, the reason these coaches make this amount of money
and the reason these players make this amount of money,
because there's somebody out there making more.
They're creating millions and millions and millions of dollars
for these universities.
And these lush new luxury suites and stadium refurbishings
and all these facilities and all this stuff,
they're not paying for themselves.
They're getting paid for because they're generating money.
What is Tom Herman make a year at Texas?
It's six and a half to seven.
They can afford that.
Right.
They absolutely can.
And by the way, when you're not only paying for the head coach at six and a half,
you're paying probably another $6 million in salaries for your coaches and your support staff.
You're paying that in private jet airfare.
You're paying that with how your kids travel.
The recruiting for soaps, the locker room being destroyed and then being rebuilt?
Do the Aggies still have the swag copter?
That swag copter is good.
that Swadcopter field doesn't pay for itself.
Yeah.
I'm not worried about Gary Cole making $30 million because Jim Crane's doing pretty well for himself.
Yeah, I'm not, these colleges can't pay these coaches that kind of money unless they have it in the piggy bank to begin with.
And they go their donors.
Hell again, Florida State in the last, I'm assuming two to three weeks, went and found $20 million to fire a coach.
That's crazy.
It's Florida State.
It's Florida State.
Yeah, unless you're talking about money that owners,
or programs are making, there's somebody out there making more.
All right, we do owe you a Bill O'Brien.
What's talking about?
Let me get squeezing Lee before we do that.
Hi, Lee.
Hey, what's going on, Matt?
You know, Gary Cole is a great player, but these deals hardly ever work out.
The guy will be over 30 years old on this deal.
It's not a money issue.
It's just not a good value issue.
It's chances are we had him at the peak of his career.
It's going to go downhill from here.
It's not worth it spread to spread that money out.
Got McCullors coming back.
We made a mistake by not bringing back Charlie Morden.
Got Granky coming back.
It doesn't make financial sense.
Look what happened with the Nationals and Bryce Harper.
They let Bryce Harper go.
They won the World Series.
If they had Bryce Harper, they might not even won the World Series.
Baseball is about making shrewd decisions.
Even the Yankees have been budget conscious recently.
Let some other stupid teams spend $40 million a year on Gary Cole.
Let him go out and have the worst season in his career and start steadily going downhill.
No, absolutely a horrible move would be to bring back Gary Cole.
It would be desperation.
I don't think of desperation.
I disagree on that.
You are, this is the pinnacle of the Houston Astros organization.
There would be nothing desperate about Garrett Cole.
They just would have to sit at the table and go, my God, we're going to be this much over the salary tax, the threshold, and we're going to get ding for it bad, which ultimately means ticket prices are going to have to go up.
Pizza costs are going to go up.
the pretzels, the sodas, the parking, at some point, you've got to balance out what's good for the clubhouse
compared to what's good for the business.
And I think from a business standpoint, Garrett Cole is bad.
But it's not, it wouldn't be desperate if they brought it back.
It would be certainly a surprise, but not desperate.
Give me two solid pitchers instead of one Garrett Cole with Lance McCulller's coming back.
Let's get some more reinforcements going on.
I'm all for that.
I'm all for that.
Thank you for the phone call.
I'm just, look, I hope Lance McCollers.
comes back, Ross, but he's the epitome of IP.
Injury prone, yes.
Not Imperial Palace. That's what I think of when you say IP.
When I say IP, you should immediately follow up by saying injury.
Or internet protocol.
Yeah, this is, there was a saying, remember when
Darrell Mori let Chandler Parsons go and he got a max contract of the Mavericks?
He said we find the Chandler Parsons. We don't pay the Chandler Parsons.
And I think that's kind of what Luna is feeling like.
We find Garrett Coles and we make trades for him and we keep on in control.
turn them into one of the best pitchers in the games, we don't pay the Garrett Coles.
I would love for the Astros of pay for Garrett Col. They're just not going to. It's just
economically, it would put them in a very, very tumultuous situation. What's you talking about
Bill? He's got to be feeling good about his Texans after a six and three start winning last
week in London and the buy week with an important game against three really good teams in
consecutive weeks. 713-212-5-7-90.
It's Matt.
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We have not done in the last few weeks because we've been busy with the Astros.
May they rest some peace?
Whether or not Ross can effectively guess what the coach is going to say based off of the preview comments supplied by our good friend Pro Nick Lowe.
Time for us to do this.
What you do, ma'amow? What you draw my? What's your job about?
Coach O'Brien.
And Ross sometimes I like to get the audience involved.
If there are one or two of you that they like to play, what you're talking about, Bill O'Brien, you may do so right now.
It's 713, 212, 790.
7.1, 3, 2,1, 5, 790.
The game is quite simple.
I'll give the slug line, the preview line, and Ross will have to guess.
And then Nick and I will decide based on a one-to-five-star system whether or not the comment matches what Ross thinks the comment is.
And what we'll do is Nick has told me we've got some Houston Roughneck tickets to give away, right, for the
their XFL opener? Is that correct? That is correct. We've got tickets to see the inaugural game of
the new XFL team, the Houston Roughnecks, when they take on the Los Angeles Wildcats at TDECU
Stadium. It'll be fast, fun, affordable, and family friendly, with five regular season home games
played at TDECU Stadium. Tickets are on sale and season ticket packages start as low as $100. Get your tickets
at XFL Roughnecks.com. It's a big long four-line read there. I was. I think I'll go check out a
rough next game. I would do that. I will go.
20 bucks or whatever. Yeah. So if you'd
like to play what you're talking about, Bill
713, 2,1, 2,5, 7.
And we'll do maybe 2 or 3 if anybody wants to do that.
We'll just have Ross and I do it. No big wop. Wonderful.
Let's start off with a big
nice layup for you on this one. Oh, great.
15 seconds,
and it's simply Bill O'Brien
on Gary on Conley.
He's a good player,
getting in here, acclimated, getting used to the guys,
getting he's learning a lot,
and he plays hard, and we're happy
to have him on board and he's only going to get better.
Yeah, he played a good game. I feel really good about Gary.
He's a smooth, smooth player. He's an instinctive
player. He had eight tackles in the game the other day, plus the
past breakups. I thought he played a good football game.
That's two stars. I didn't know it was going to be specifically
on one game. I'd give you two as well.
Oh, really? You guys are being generous. That was a one star. Under the rules of the game,
we would not give a new of XFL tickets. Let's continue.
Coach O'Brien.
On Ravens offense, 28 seconds.
Wow.
Ravens offense, 20 seconds?
28.
They're really good.
They're a really good offensive football team.
I mean, Lamar Jackson's one of the more dynamic players.
He can throw it.
He can run it.
You never know what's going to happen with him.
Mark Ingram is running it hard.
They've got a tied-in Mark Andrews, who's playing really well as well.
They just got Marquise Brown back.
So a really tough offensive squad we're going up against.
They're doing a great job with their scheme.
Lamar Jackson's an excellent play.
I mean, plays with great poise, got a great skill set, throws the ball well.
Their scheme is very difficult.
They take advantage of the players that they have, led by Lamar, Ingram, using their tight ends.
Let's go, maybe.
It's going to be a big, big challenge for us.
Five stars.
Yeah, that's good.
That was.
Well, that's one of the better ones I've ever done.
He nailed it.
All right, we got a contestant that wants to play.
Let's say hi to Rob.
Rob, how are you?
Rob, how are you?
I'm doing well.
How are you doing today?
Good.
Turn your radio down for me there, and we're going to give you an opportunity.
I'm on Bluetooth, so I don't have my radio on.
Oh, okay.
Getting echo.
Let me go off Bluetooth and see what happened.
Yeah, let's do that as we get you ready to do this.
Here we go.
What you doing, what you draw my.
Coach O'Brien.
All right, Rob's here, a newbie. We'll give you a chance here. 32 seconds. Is this a good time for the buy week, Bill O'Brien?
Yes, I believe it is. We've got a couple people banged up. It'd be nice to get our wide receivers back off track and a little bit of rest.
Defense, our new guys, our cornerbacks, we'll get used to better practice with the schemes.
I believe this would be a great time
and we'll be ready to go
in about 10 more days.
Yeah, I think
anytime the by week comes
halfway through the season
thereabouts, I think is a good thing.
I think when you go into the buy with a win,
I think that's a good thing.
I think that for various reasons,
mostly what we talked about earlier with the health,
it allows guys to, you know,
that are banged up, everybody's banged up,
but it gives you, everybody in the league's banged up
halfway through the season,
but it gives them time to kind of heal up and be ready to go for a stretch run.
It's a very important stretch run.
So I think it is good timing.
I do.
I'll give it three and a half.
You got banged up.
Yeah, you got banged up in there quite a bit.
That's pretty good.
You get some points.
Rob, you're going on the XFL Premier game.
Congratulations, my friend.
Very nice.
Oh, beautiful.
Thanks, y'all.
Have a great day.
We'll see you later.
How about that?
All right.
One more for you, Rossi.
This is another layup for you.
Nice.
44.6 seconds.
on the pre-snap penalties.
44 seconds?
That's a lot of talking about pre-snap.
Well, you know, those are things that we need to get cleaned up.
Obviously, when you can have penalties, you never want penalties.
And you especially don't want penalties on things that you can correct.
And those things are, we can correct.
We got to get guys in the right positions.
We got to get in the right formation.
So anytime that you can clean something like that up, we got to get it done.
I got to do better. We got to get the guys more prepared.
We got to get them knowing where to be and where to line up.
And that's something that we're going to work on.
This has the feel of verbatim. Here we go.
We got to fix it, Aaron. We have to fix it.
I mean, we can't keep doing that.
I mean, I think now that you get into these November, December games, there's, you know, a very fine line between winning and losing.
There's a slim margin for error.
and we have to fix the pre-snap penalties.
I think it's coaching and playing.
We're all in it together, but we've got to get that figured out.
We just talked about that this morning.
I think that's something that when that happens,
you go from third and two to third and seven,
second and ten to second and 15,
first in ten to first and 15,
and it really disrupts the rhythm of your offense.
And it just doesn't, it's not good, so we have to stop.
He didn't mention clean it up.
Even one time.
I thought he was going to do.
to say that. And he did, you would have
earned points by going, man, there certainly
is a difference between first and ten and first and
15. You didn't do that. So I would give you one and a half
stars. You let, that was not good at all.
Yeah, that wasn't great. Sorry.
So if you were playing for roughnet tickets, you would not
have won the roughneck tickets. I think you should try number
29. I thought I gave a good effort.
It's just he went a different direction.
Okay. It's, okay, will team
coming back healthy help
penalties? That's really
difficult. Nine seconds on this?
Uh, okay. I mean, I'll take it. Give it a go. I have minimal expectations for you on this.
I think no matter who we have in there, the expectation is that they know what they were doing. So, so we got to coach these guys better and we got to play better. We get them all on the same page, no matter who's out there.
I mean, I don't think so. I think that, um, I mean, when we've been healthy, we've been jumping off sides.
Zero stars. That was a no win. You couldn't have won in that one. I tried. That was a weird question. It was even post.
to them.
So when y'all get back and help the coach,
why don't I sound like I'm over there, Tuscaloosa Journal?
Yeah.
Excuse me.
Is it Tyler, Texas?
Yeah.
When you get back to practice and you guys are healthier, will that help the penalties? He's probably thinking about what kind of question was that? All right, and that has been this week's edition of.
segments. I just... I enjoy the challenge. It is. And I, and I would be just as bad at it as you are.
Wait a minute. I nailed one five stars. Yeah, but the rest are like a one and a half to two stars.
It balances out to about three. Yeah, but I wasn't, I didn't start saying he was going to start
talking about the Popeye's chicken sandwich or something. I thought I would have been great.
Bill, excuse me, coach. Deshawn says the chicken sandwich was the reason why his eyes were felt
better. Do you have any thought on that? Yeah. I'm a big fan of the spicy mayo. Some people like to go
heavy on the pickles. I'm a light pickle guy personally.
As long as a sandwich is fresh
and ready to go, I will
definitely eat it.
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I was going to do a little
segment on
past interference in the NFL,
but this tweet just came in
from somebody, I don't know who retweeted it or whatever.
So we were talking in the first hour of the show about how maybe the
Chargers would leave potentially Los Angeles and maybe
it'd be financially worth their while to smooth the Chargers to London because
that's the success of the London. It's 82,000 seats have fulled every time.
It's one of the biggest cities in the world. It could clearly, I mean,
with the way that you could stack the schedule, you could play three home games
and then three road, three home three. I mean, you could,
You can figure it. It's not nearly as logistically difficult. I think you'd probably have to
compensate the players a little bit more in London than you would in the United States.
Yeah, what are the taxes? And you've got to move your family out there and all that?
I mean, there would be some special provision. So how does Brexit affecting all this?
I don't know how he feels about it.
But what it got me curious was that you'd have to move their divisions around. You can move the
charges of the AFC East. And then you would have the Texans moving to the West.
I think it would be cool.
It would be amazing because you'd have Kansas,
Denver, and Las Vegas in your own division.
And then you could have a bunch of 330 games or 325 games,
so that way when you get drunk on a Saturday night,
you don't have to wake up by noon.
How do you feel about the 3.30 start games?
I love those.
Except this is one problem.
When the Texans are on at noon,
I find 330 is about prime napping hours.
Napping hours for me.
I'll watch at 12 o'clock games.
I'll flip on Red Zone.
And then for like the first quarter or the first half of those three-clock games,
I'm out.
Yeah, even though it's better to play at 3 because it means you're actually good.
Right.
I don't know.
I think I like me some noons.
Just being on at 3, the Red Zone on a Sunday on your couch nodding off to me, that is just like, it's just, it's tradition.
Okay.
So Eric Williams covers the Chargers for ESPN.
You know, every team has their own individual.
Here's the quote.
And this guy's a verified account.
So this can't be made up.
Chargers owner Dean Spanos on his team potentially moving to London.
Here's the quote.
I love this.
It's total effing BS.
We're not going to London.
We're not going anywhere.
We're playing in Los Angeles.
This is our home and this is where we are planning to be for a long effing time period.
What was he in a bar when he said here?
Was he at the, what do they call that?
The 19th hole grill?
Okay, look.
After a round of golf.
Ross and I, truth be told, we have pretty decent potty mounds.
Oh, and how?
And we use the potty mouth and we're having dinner with the boys.
Yes.
We are doing it.
We're at the casino.
Yes.
We're at a sporting event.
Check.
We're having a couple of pops.
Whatever the case would be.
We are not using our potty mouths during a major market radio show.
First of all, it's illegal to do so.
Second of all, it doesn't make us look good.
How in the world is Dean Spanos?
Go to the beat writer of your NFL team on an ESPN website and use this is total effing BS.
We're not going to London.
We are planning to be here for a long effing time, period.
Multiple F bombs.
You can't double F bomb if you're an owner of an NFL team.
Why not?
Don't you think that's so emphatic, though?
Don't you wish Cal McNair would come out and drop a couple F bombs?
At least we'd hear us.
I'd like to be able to know what Cal sounds like.
I think that's so emphatic though.
That makes me,
that quote actually makes me believe there's truth to it.
Because you know,
sometimes when people get accused of stuff,
they come back at you so hard that there might be a sliver of truth to it.
Because let's be dealing the realities.
And you and I've never been to a Chargers game in Los Angeles.
No.
I've been to that stadium, though.
They draw that same to, what, 25,000 seats?
Yeah, yeah.
And it feels like every other team in the league gets to go in and pick and choose their
seats. And it's Carson, and you get, so it's way out there. It takes you a while to get the Carson.
It's not terrible. It's a half hour from LA. It's not terrible. Okay. I remember taking me like an hour and
15 minutes ago out there from LA. Trivick can do that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying? But I'm thinking
on a normal Sunday in Los Angeles. Well, traffic's bad all the time, but I don't know. Point being is this.
They're going to go from not filling up a 25,000 seat stadium to not filling up. I'm assuming what,
the new LA for Sosot has got to be 70, 75,000 somewhere in that range. I would imagine.
this you could the chargers could not have screwed this up more couldn't get a deal in san diego
then they get in bed with los angeles when who in the hell in los angeles wanted them to begin with
nobody those pictures when they played the steelers it looked like a steelers game
so while london isn't san diego london isn't los angeles
Dean Spanos loves being an owner so much
that he is going to take a massive L Ross
on the Los Angeles Chargers being the Los Angeles Chargers.
If he goes to London and becomes the London Chargers,
he will be cash flush.
Not that he already isn't already.
But he and anybody that's involved with these Chargers organization
will crush
80,000 seats sold every time.
Thousands and thousands of people from the other cities coming to London to see your team play.
You'll have an entire continent rooting for your team.
You get like football hooligans, like soccer hooligans, setting stuff on fire.
That's what you do.
I get in tear gassed.
I don't know.
Would you stick with the chargers?
I think I would come up with something else for London.
Oh, you'd probably change it.
Like what?
But imagine this.
The hot spurs.
He would get a relocation fee.
The bangers.
No, there's no...
Can I be the London bangers?
Yeah, that's just a sausage.
Yeah.
Why would you name yourself after a sausage?
I don't know.
What would the logo?
Manly?
What would the logo look?
No, that's enough.
Just one big sausage on a helmet?
Yeah.
That's...
I get it.
If you're California guy, you don't think of London.
But I don't know if he realizes how bad he's going to look financially when that
first stadium and that new stadium opens up
and there's 29,000 people there for the
first game. Meanwhile, the Rams are drawing
75 or whatever they're going to draw.
Next time, tell Alexa.
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you are, so is Matt
Thomas. Firmly
believed that Tony Dudjie is one of the nicest
people ever in America.
Forget about his coaching, forget about broadcasting.
I think he's just a humanitarian as a good
human being. It's a real sweetheart. There are very
few nice football coaches.
Like if you were to give me a quick list of five sweethearts.
College or pro?
Mac Brown?
No, I think, no, no, no, no.
What?
Mac Brown wouldn't hurt a fly.
He didn't allow cursing at his practices.
Mac Brown would have media not allowed to games that they spoke not swimmingly of the
University Tech.
That's true.
Yeah, he would monitor people on the radio.
That's not nice.
Well, you can't be saying negative things about the team.
We're going to have to kick you off the radio.
Thank you.
Why does everybody feel like they've got to do a Macbine impression?
Because it's really fun.
And it's really easy.
Okay, but he's a sweet guy, though.
He's like a, he and Sally making you a peach cobbler and having you over for dinner.
All right.
I don't know.
I think having people monitored and admonished for things that sound on the radio is not nice.
Well, you're biased.
Tony Dungey, super sweet.
Ken Hapfield, former Rice, Arkansas, Clemson coach a swell fellow.
David Bayliff, he used to coach at Rice.
Seems like a guy you'd really enjoy.
Tony Levine,
awesome, awesome guy.
Great chicken sandwiches.
Now he's cooking a chicken filet like a mutta.
Point being, there are a lot of great ones.
Okay.
Bill O'Brien's not a sweetheart.
Pete Carroll seems like you'd want to go party with him.
Pete Carroll doesn't seem awful.
Jason Garrett doesn't seem terrible.
Okay.
So there's a few.
But Tony Dunge is the greatest.
Tony Dungey, one hour ago on Twitter.
And you need to explain to the audience once I read the tweet,
what exactly he's talking about.
He has a picture of the Cowboys Giants game from last night.
Please NFL, do us a favor and don't let coaches challenge any more past interference
calls.
You're causing teams to lose timeouts, making your officiating department look inept,
and making us fans feel stupid, like we don't know the meaning of clear, obvious, and significant.
Apparently, there were two calls yesterday that hurt the Giants
that cost the Giants a pair of timeouts that should have been,
one should have been a pass interference
and the one should have been flip the other direction, right?
Right, yeah.
So they're both in the fourth quarter, apparently,
and both went against the Giants where they thought one should have been called
and it wasn't.
And they challenged that and the call was upheld.
And then another time one was called and they thought the ball was uncatchable.
So they challenged and then still that was upheld as well.
I want to know this answer because I don't have it.
Why have so many pass interference calls
that have been challenged,
why is the correction rate abysmally low?
It's because they want
clear evidence
that you can overturn it, right?
Because there's always the overturned,
and then there was the confirmed,
and then there's the upheld, or whatever, right?
You can confirm a call,
or you can just uphold the call,
or whatever it is.
What's the language?
It sounds about right.
Right.
So you have to,
to most of these aren't getting confirmed.
They're just getting upheld because, hey, we don't know.
That's the way it was called in the field.
We're throwing our hands up and saying, hey, it's 50, 50.
Go either way.
Even if it's 60, 40, that's not enough.
Even if we can see with our eyes, that's what they need to do, honestly.
They need to change the language of the challenges and say,
use a like a preponderance of the evidence phrase or more probable than not or something like that,
rather than clear as day evidence.
Because here's what's happening.
You have every NFL coach in the NFL that is deathly.
afraid of using a rule that was supposed to help the NFL because every time they think
as clear as day, pass interference is called. And there's got somebody in the booth that's
watching the replay and going, hey, throw the challenge on this. They're not being overturned.
Doesn't mean that every call should have been. But Rossi, every week that I see the latest
numbers in the NFL about when calls are being overturned, the number, the percentages of
them overturned are falling smaller and smaller and smaller, which,
means they must be getting in an alarmingly accurate rate or maybe not because Tony Denji
just went to Twitter and I mean, I can't imagine Tony Dungey wanted to do anything to
rip the league in which he made his living and which he still does on NBC and saying,
this is embarrassing all of us.
Yeah, these are just difficult judgment calls, but they're ones that, I mean, some of them
seem blatant.
They seem like they should get overturned and then they don't.
So I don't know if it's the language of the rulings or if it's the referees not wanting to
admit a mistake or whatever, you'd figure they just want to get the call right, no matter what.
Is there any part of you that says, conspiracy theory guy checking in here for the first time
of the show today?
Hi.
Hey, my name is Roger Goodell, and our coaches wanted this so damn bad, I'll give it to you,
but doesn't mean we're going to change things because we don't want you as our officials to look
bad.
Yeah, so this screenshot from Tony Dungey is the first one with Ingram that they thought there
was past interference.
I mean, it looks like past interference to me.
and they didn't call it and it got challenged.
I don't know, Ross, if it's because of social media,
I don't know if it's because of the camera angles,
but we have an epidemic of horrific officiating in general sports today.
You know, I've talked about some little bit in the last couple of weeks.
As I said to you when we first brought this up,
I don't know of any young man
that would want to get into the business of officiating
knowing that they're going to be ridiculed and crushed
and yelled that.
and yell that and over-analyzed by themselves, by their own group, and by the coaches, and by the fans, you just can't go anywhere.
Why would you want to do it?
Why would anybody that's in the sound of my voice at 18 years of age, maybe it's a senior as high school going, I'm going to go to college.
I'm going to get myself a general business degree.
But in the reality, I'm going just to get a degree because I want to be an NFL official.
Why would you want to do that?
Yeah, it's like, I mean, you were having a conversation with Joel Clatton, and he was talking about how, I mean, you've got these people at youth leagues getting shouted
down by parents and honestly
sometimes in some cases
fights getting started and all this type of stuff,
the motivation is not there to be an
umpire as a career. Yeah, I just
think it's one of those spots where
it's only getting worse.
And you would have thought, I remember saying this
last year when the Rams and Saints played
when people are still so upset. I'm sure
New Orleans fans still are to this day.
I kept saying to the audience, hey gang,
don't worry, this will be fixed. They're going to
add instant replay to pass interference
and we're going to not have a situation like this again.
how can I come to you listen to me right now and say that something is crazy and as
amazingly bad as what happened last year in the championship is not going to get fixed because
they're not using instant replay right now to their advantage.
I was thinking that last week, would that play have gotten overturned?
Because we saw replays from certain angles over and over and over again where it looked bad.
There were some angles where it didn't look as egregious.
It didn't look as blatant.
And I'm wondering, honestly, if the NFL had that situation to do that.
all over again and they didn't know the repercussions if they would have overturned it.
But as I say all these things, Houston, I still want it.
I still want the ability to have a call that was so insanely bad during the NFC championship
game to be reversed.
Because I have little faith in the NFL.
I have little faith in officiating.
I have enough faith.
I still think that if that rinse replay system was in play, that they would have overturned it.
not only for the past interference, but the targeting as well.
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Remember that time you were
Where were you traveling with the rockets
And the fire alarm was going off?
I'm glad you brought that up
Is it in your personal audio?
Yes, it is
So as you guys know
We travel with the rockets
Somebody's running down here
Yeah, we're not going people
We're not going
We're staying here
We're okay
Thank you very much
All right
So I was in Los Angeles
I think it was two years ago right
Nick's got it
All right
Yeah, it was LA.
We have a real live fire alarm going on.
This is after you and Verlander had like $40 pancakes.
Do you hear in the background?
I don't know.
Is that going over the air?
I don't think they are.
I can.
Okay.
Here is me in Los Angeles a couple of years ago with the fire alarm at the Beverly Hills Hotel we were at.
I'm just telling you they were the best team they ever had lost in the divisional
playoffs to probably to Baltimore one year and New England to the next.
Yeah.
They just never could overcome that.
Thank you for the phone call.
There's an alarm that should be going off in your home, and that's if you have dirty carpets.
This is really, excuse my French, annoying AF.
Seriously.
Fire alarm testing is like five times, not 50.
I'm trying to do a major market radio show here in downtown Beverly Hills, California, and this damn...
Oh, really?
Oh, you got my attention.
Yeah?
Five to ten more minutes, Ross.
Five to ten more minutes.
Jesus.
We're doing fine.
There's no fire.
I'm trying to discuss the Texans game against Tennessee.
Oh, now you're putting a sweet little ginger voice on there.
Hi, honey.
How are you?
Back to the alarms.
Good Lord.
How am I supposed to create radio graze?
greatness under these conditions.
And I did.
That you did, Matthew.
We only got our 10th anniversary coming up
of the show January.
Wonderful.
We may have to do a day
where we're just going to play nothing
but sound bites for three hours.
Yeah, okay. I'm with it.
Eric Gordon, by the way,
listed as questionable for tomorrow night's game
with the Golden State Warriors
with a sore hamstring.
Oh, no.
I wonder if it happened
on this play.
805 remaining in the game.
game. Gordon with a head of stave and an emphatic throwdown. EG flat-out angry. Timeout to Memphis.
801 remaining in the game. Houston 92. Memphis 82.
E.G. for two. He said that was pretty nasty. It was. Yes, it was.
Eric Gordon with a little oomph. Now he only made three of his nine three-pointers. He's still
got to climb out of that hole, but he would be fine.
But at least James got out of his little mini slump yesterday.
That's true.
He can make 40 points seem almost effortless.
There was a stat I saw on Twitter.
I wish I could pull it up.
It was the amount of 40-point games he's had the last few years is more than like Kauai and
LeBron and Janice and a whole bunch of other all-star players combined.
You know, part of that is he gets the free throw line like 17, 18 times a game.
It doesn't hurt.
And he's also at 90%.
He missed five free throws, I think, yesterday.
But he typically will get to the free.
I mean, he is over 100 free throws, and we've only played seven games.
I hear, I found it.
James Harden has 31, 40-point games over the last two seasons.
That's as many as the combined total of Stefan Curry, Janice Sintacinzacinth,
Russell Westbrook, Kevin Durant, LeBron, LeBron, James, Kyrie Irving, Kauai Leonard.
Combined.
That is astonishing.
It's amazing.
What did you think about the Rockets without Russell last night?
I thought, well, Eric Gordon took over the role of coming in.
I thought that James Hardin was going to play the entire first quarter.
I was surprised to see him, Eric Gordon, come back and sub in for him.
It's the same of what we've seen a lot of times.
I mean, when Chris Paul would go down, we'd see James Hardin just step it up.
And I don't know whatever his point, Vegas point total was last night,
but you bet the over anytime it's James Harden by himself,
especially against a team that's not very good.
I liked what Ben McLemar
has brought to the table so far.
He's been a lot of a nice of surprise with him.
Daniel House, I thought, brought it on both ends of the floor,
going for rebounds, tapping out rebounds,
keeping possessions alive.
There were a lot more positives than the disaster
that was the Sunday night game down in Miami.
Yeah, and speaking of Ben McLemore
in the post-game comments,
Mike Dantone, he doesn't normally give a lot of praise,
especially of individual players.
He said, I'm really coming to like this guy.
So he likes what Ben McLemore is bringing to the table, so we're probably going to see a lot more of them.
Let's go to Corey on the north side on 790.
Hi, Corey.
What's going on, man?
How are you doing today?
Well.
All right.
Basically, I kind of got angry, man, because I was listening to the pundits, and I know what y'all are going to say.
Don't listen to him.
But I'm like, the way they criticize the Rockets, I know they have not been playing up the park.
but it's seven games in.
It's like these pundits already, like, predict that it's two best teams.
The clippers in the Lakers.
But it's like they're not looking at sport as a totality and not saying it as,
like, say, for instance, the nationals, how they started abysmal.
But they came back, and now they're champions.
So it's like I was listening today and how they were just criticizing the Rockets
and I'm playing good defense and the offense looks, you know,
that rush and Harden can't play together.
But I'm like, at seven games in.
So it's like you have to get these guys time to actually jail.
And I don't believe that Darryorne is going, you know,
he's going to make a move like he does every year to actually better the team
before the playoffs start.
But I'm like these punters have to give these guys time to actually jail and play together.
And it kind of like, it angered me.
That's why I called in to see, like, what kind of movie you think the Rockins is going to make before?
Nothing right now.
Everything that you just described, you should probably step back and go, it's seven games.
There are 75 more of them.
There's nothing to be judged in the first seven games of the season, especially when the team opened, what, last year, one in five?
Something like that, Ross?
Wasn't it something really awful?
Yeah.
11 and 15?
Corey, I'm just going to tell you, we are your therapist.
And I'm going to tell you right now, this team will never be an
it will never be an above average defense.
If it gets to average and James and Russ continue to work out these things
and they start knocking down some shots more so than they have in the last week or so,
the Rockets will be just fine.
And we'll leave it at that.
Thank you, Corey, for the phone call.
I will say this.
We can say, oh, that this is early in the season.
and they can turn it around, but we don't know that for sure.
No, we don't.
And talking about the Nationals example,
everybody was crushing the Nationals when they were 19 and 31,
and rightfully so, because they weren't playing well.
And the Rockets are 4 and 3,
and they're on shaky ground,
and even some of the ones they've had
haven't necessarily been impressive.
But there's no guarantee they're going to turn it around.
So if you're a National Pundit, if you're Max Kellerman or whoever,
you just got to go with what's been happening so far.
And teams that are adjusting and do have new superstars
they're dealing with, like the Lakers.
and like the Clippers who have completely new rosters,
they have that same excuse of the Rockets do,
but they're looking better than the Rockets have.
So I would like to see the Rockets perform a little bit better,
and I don't think it's necessarily unfair
to say they haven't shown themselves to be a top-tier team.
Let me tell you something.
Nobody's bragging on them.
No.
Nobody in the Rocketville is bragging.
No one is walking around beating their chest
after beating the Memphis Grizzies last night.
They're thinking big picture.
They're thinking, we cannot give up 125 points
or can't give up 40 points in a quarter and lose
but the quarter by 30, it's a team like the heat.
Because the heat might be, and again,
it's a very small sample size.
They might be one of the surprise teams,
and it will be a playoff caliber team in the Eastern Conference.
Memphis is going to probably lose 60 games this year.
They're not very good.
Right.
And they've got to be Golden State tomorrow night.
They need to.
They don't need to give this young, full of players
you've never heard of in your entire life any mojo whatsoever.
Especially because you've got the next two games
in the road against Chicago who's awful.
Now look, this is where you start to get your mojo back a little bit.
This isn't a murder resort lineup.
The Warriors are not nearly close to what they were last year.
Chicago is terrible, and also New Orleans is terrible.
And by way, speaking of Chicago, do you see the story on the ESPN yesterday?
About Anthony Davis?
He was just making an offhand comment.
It's fine.
That doesn't make a, that didn't seem like a big story to me.
But that's another thing, though, Matt, is if they were four and three and looking
shaking against some, you know, running a gauntlet of a schedule, then I think I would
feel a little bit better. But they haven't
looked good against, okay, like you
said, the heat, maybe they're going to surprise.
But the Nets, last night
against the Grizzlies, they aren't great, and they
beat them by seven. They
started off the season 05 against the spread,
which spread isn't everything, but that can let you
gauge how you're doing against your opponents.
So, I mean, you're going against Pelicans
Thunder Wizards, Grizzlies,
and then now, like you said,
Warriors, Bulls, and Pelicans again.
Three more winnable games, right there.
This is a soft schedule.
So you shouldn't be going around, you shouldn't be hovering around 500 against a soft schedule, is what I'm saying.
And I don't think they're going to.
Okay.
They're going to be okay?
I bet you.
I'm a little concerned.
I'd be totally human and expected.
Okay.
Because I'm on the plane.
Yes.
They're not, we weren't popping champagne last night.
They weren't?
No.
Well, maybe Saturday night in Miami.
I didn't see him.
I was in bed by 930.
That's how lame I was.
Yeah, you didn't go clubbing in Miami?
I'm one of the most exciting cities in this world.
not from the country.
And I'm in bed at 930.
And you had like Applebee's for dinner.
Well, it was supposed to go to a Takaria,
but it was the next available table that I want and I want to go to is 11 o'clock at night.
Oh.
Can you need 11 o'clock.
That's early in Miami, Matt.
That's why I was available.
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Ross, what is believe it or not today in coming up in 40 minutes?
Go ahead and hit the crickets, Nick.
he never has the crickets ready when necessary
it's almost like nick when i say ross what is coming up on
it's almost like their natural cue to hit the crickets before even it says hit the crickets
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that argument again let's do it after this no not with the crickets no your timing is terrible
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saying it was physically impossible, not physically.
It was manufacturer-wise impossible to get a chicken sandwich prior to Sunday.
Those people aren't Deshawn Watson.
So maybe you got a sneak preview.
You know how you do it, like a soft opening?
when they're open up
man you're all for clumped over there
um like a soft opening when they open up a restaurant
and you can try out the you can try out the goods the food stuff's early
do you think that's the case
do you think deshawn Watson got a chicken sandwich earlier
and it's like a marketing deal because remember how like
Peyton manning was talking about Budweiser's after his last game
yeah maybe Deshawn Watson got a
boatload of money from Popeyes
that said, here's a couple of sneak preview sandwiches.
Mention it, and boom, here's a million dollars.
That seems more plausible.
I think that's illegal, too.
And, by the way, yeah, because he would have had to get the sandwich by Thursday,
because they left Thursday for London.
Yeah.
Were chicken sandwiches physically in the Houston area on Thursday?
My guess is yes.
Yeah, they were in the freezers of Popeye's chickens all over the city.
Fresh never frozen.
No, I'm just kidding.
I don't know if they do it.
They definitely freeze.
They're not $15 chicken sandwiches.
Wendy says they never freeze their beef.
Excuse me?
Be beef.
Okay, so I think people are calling them BS, but doesn't really matter.
Yeah, I don't think he ate it.
I think he was just making a joke.
Everybody's getting upset, and then you got Larry Johnson on Twitter talking about how he's...
Wait a minute.
I saw that.
Those two things don't correlate, do they?
What's that?
Why was Larry Johnson mad about the chicken sandwich comment?
Because he's playing into black stereotypes
and he's being controlled by corporations.
It doesn't even mention,
he didn't even Garner mentioned,
I shouldn't even say anything.
It doesn't matter.
Larry Johnson's a whack job.
That's the Larry Johnson NFL player, right?
As compared to Grandma Ma?
Yes.
Right.
The former running back that the chiefs ran into the ground.
Yeah.
Man, I'm sorry,
but chicken sandwiches are for everybody.
I agree.
They're for grandma,
Daisy in Des Moines, Iowa.
Therein for Deshawn Watson, Houston, Texas.
They're for Matt Thomas and Kingwood.
More like Porter.
Oh, we got to go to Porter for a Popeyes?
Yeah, there's one.
Yeah, the one that closest to us is Porter.
Hmm.
Okay.
So.
So we're going to get one for a post-show, right?
Should we get one today?
We have a dinner.
Oh, yeah.
At seven.
And I don't want to ruin my dinner at seven.
Lou tomorrow.
Oh, you know why?
That's right.
Here I'm making, here comes the announcement right now.
Yes.
Tomorrow, because we have a Rockets game against Golden State at 630.
So it means I'm going to be the arena earlier than normal.
We're going right after the show tomorrow.
Yes.
Two of Popeyes.
I'm with you.
We've got to go one that doesn't have a long line.
We'll go inside.
How many want to go by?
Can we get a line check somehow?
Can you order online and pick up?
Can we buy 12 or 15 and then save the rest?
Should we post?
We could postmates it.
Like 2 o'clock?
How would you feel if a two major market radio host came to your place of business and dropped off chicken sandwiches?
Now, of course, we'd upcharge it.
No, no, no.
I'm not delivering chicken sandwiches.
Well, I am.
How much are they giving you?
I'm going to do like Stubhub.
I'm going to buy a boatload of chicken sandwiches.
And then I'm going to go look on Twitter.
People are doing that.
I sure am hungry.
I can go for a chicken sandwich right now.
And then I'm going to charge six times the amount.
Capitalism, baby.
That's some people were doing that.
How many people are ordering off services like DoorDash and favor and all that?
That's what I'm saying.
By the way, if you're doing the DoorDash thing, sorry, interrupt you.
They're taking a bite out of the sandwich.
You're only getting 90% of the sandwich.
We did the, there was a non-Florida story I did or whatever?
It was like 25% of them eat your fries.
You were saying, Nick, I'm sorry.
I was just wondering how many people are working for these companies like Favor and DoorDash
and getting stuck in ridiculous lines picking up sandwiches for people.
You're already making like $4 an hour working for DoorDash or Post.
Postmates anyways, and then it's going to get even worse because you're in line at Popeyes the whole time.
So really, it's a loss, loss for everybody.
Yes.
Popeye's employees mad at making these chicken sandwiches.
Meanwhile, the, what's the matter?
You have your eyes going on.
Oh, so, yeah, I was going to tweet.
There's a guy, the Popeyes in Cyprus, he said, had 37 cars in line.
If you go inside, is it faster?
Probably not.
That's going inside is more of a risk of getting stabbed.
Somebody got stabbed to death in Maryland over the St.
chicken sandwich. I saw that. That's when I was like, you know what? I need to try one of these
sandwiches. If they're to die for, they're worth getting killed over, it's got to be some pretty
damn good sandwich. I thought just the opposite. If I'm going to die, which I'm going to.
Yes. Sorry. I'd like to do it in my sleep. Not in line in a pop pie. Because when you're going
to bury me at some point. Yes. They're going to, this is so morbid but yet true. Matt lived to
the age of hopefully 83, 84.
Okay.
He was a devoted husband, father, friend,
mentor, mentor, degenerate gambler, all these things that would describe who I am.
And he passed away peacefully in his sleep at the age of 80, whatever it is, okay?
This guy who passed away, is he going to have a service?
And when you go to the service or you ask your friend, hey, do you hear about your friend?
whatever his name. What was the guy's name? Do you have a name of the person that passed?
Let's just call him Larry.
Larry. Poor Larry. I'm sorry to hear of his passing. So young, it's so much to live for.
What happened? Well, he got in a fight at a Popeyes over a chicken sandwich.
Do you bury him with a chicken sandwich at that point?
Did he even go to the obituary? Do you send it to the air afterlife what he was after? You bury him with a sandwich.
Well, wait a minute. The guy that stabbed him probably got the sandwich.
That's what I'm saying. He died over it. You might as well send him down.
heaven with one.
Then you got to wait in line again.
Somebody else is going to die.
Then you get stabbed.
Then you know there's two funerals.
Again, on the top ten ways I want to die.
Yeah.
Like I can think of plain car crash.
Yeah.
Violent disease really quick.
No, I don't want any of that.
I just want quick and painless.
I don't want execution style.
Matt dies of stabbing, fighting for a fast food chicken sandwich.
That's just not on my list.
But I digress.
just thinking about it.
I'm just going to, yeah, I just want it clean and easy.
Not bleeding out on the floor of a Popeyes.
All right.
Can you help me sell Deshaun for the MVP?
I've got Russell Wilson right now.
What has he done that's been so amazing?
I think he's got 22 touchdowns and one interception.
Okay, that's good.
They're seven and two.
But have you seen what's around Deshawn?
Don't you get a bonus when you have a terrible offensive line
and up and down running backs and only one?
Well, that's not true one receiver.
They've got tight ends.
They've gone to.
Still has been okay, Deshawn.
But it's...
Yeah, Russell Wilson's got...
Tyler Lockett and Chris Carson, who are good.
But their offensive line isn't great either.
But nobody watches the Seahawks.
They're just a meh team.
Who happened to be one of the best teams in NFC because of Russell Wilson.
Yeah, 22 touchdowns, one interception.
How about the Texans win the next three games,
two of which are on national television,
other one is going to be the main CBS game.
By the way, people are asking about whether or not the game should be flexed to the Sunday
night game between the Texans and the Ravens.
I don't think it's going to happen because guess what?
The Texans have a short week.
So you're going to tell them they're not going to leave Baltimore until midnight on Sunday
night and then have to play at 7 o'clock on Thursday at home.
I think that decision has to be made like a week a week.
A couple weeks in advance.
And then I think you can't do it until like after week 10 or 12 or something like that.
No, I think you can flex like.
you know what that used to be the rule.
I think maybe they flex them all no matter.
But I think it used to be the rule you could only flex like after week 10 or something like that.
Yeah, there is, it would be, again, a much more appealing game and much more national relevance.
But I don't think Bill O'Brien wants to get his team home at 2.33 o'clock in the morning on Monday and have to play a short week.
Because you're already getting just one day of practice as it is.
And they're on Sunday night football the week after anyways.
Yeah.
228.
That's true.
So all those things make it very inflexible.
713, 21, 2, 4.
I'm going to sell you, and I'm going to continue to sell you until he doesn't give me the evidence to say that Sean Watson is having an MVP-type season.
My guess is people in Charlotte are doing the exact same thing about Christian McCaffrey, and they are certainly doing that about Russell Wilson in Seattle.
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So who's the fourth person on the MVP list?
McCaffrey, Russell Wilson, Deshawn Watson.
Who's the fourth one we're missing?
Lamar Jackson?
Oh, Lamar Jackson, yeah.
In the mix.
I think he, I mean, Jimmy Garoppel hasn't been great, but the Niners are eight, no.
No, no, no, no.
He's only had really one or two productive weeks.
Aaron Rogers, before losing this past week.
He was definitely up there.
Yeah.
I think it's down to the four we just mentioned.
Okay.
And I think, frankly, if you're talking about an MVP race,
you probably eliminate the worst performer of the two between Lamar and Deshaun this week,
next week coming up, right?
Do you take their head-to-head matchup to?
I think with it being the premier noon game next week, not this week of the week,
I think you do.
I think if it's that close, you start to eliminate candidates.
Okay.
I mean.
Ravens defense is better than the Texans.
It's on the road too.
So if Deshaun has any success,
do you give him a little bit more benefit of the doubt?
You're not going head to...
You're not necessarily...
Quarterbacks are not going head-to-head.
Like, people made so much of this
Peyton Manning versus Tom Brady.
Tom Brady is, you know, 12 and 4 or whatever.
Well, how many times...
How many times have the Colts have a great defense?
How many times have Russell played the Niners so far this year?
Have they played each other yet?
I don't believe so.
Okay, well, I think that's a test for Russell Wilson's MVP Canada.
to see what he does against.
Because the Niners may have had the one or two best defenses in the NFC.
Yeah, they play the Niners this weekend, actually.
That's a good match.
They go to the Niners, and then they host them the final week of the season.
What are the Saints doing this Sunday?
Because I'll be in New Orleans on Sunday.
Will you?
Yeah.
Let's see.
Got Drew Breeze back.
Because they were off last week.
Falcons.
At noon.
In our New Orleans.
In New Orleans at noon.
Why don't you go to that game?
I don't think we're leaving until like 10 o'clock.
clock.
So how we miss it?
In the...
We're going to
to be in Chicago the night before.
Chicago Saturday, fly to New Orleans
on Sunday, the game against the Pelicans is next Monday.
Oh, you're going to fly during the day?
Yeah.
Okay.
That flight shouldn't be too long, huh?
It's about the same as Chicago, Houston, give or take, right?
So, yeah, make sure you don't drive anywhere near around that stadium for about
six-hour block.
I'm going right to Harris as soon as we can land.
Oh, man, I'm jealous.
Can I meet you there?
This is this weekend?
Yeah, go on you do the show Monday from New Orleans?
Just saying.
When are you coming back?
After the game Monday night.
I might do that.
Some of our best plans are made on air.
Hi, Bill and Cinco Ranch on 790 and 237.
Bill, what do you got today?
Believe it.
Hey, man, I want to ask you guys.
Hey, you know, you guys are killing me with this chicken thing, man.
You know, it kind of brought me to a...
Why do they do not have any smoothie kings in the...
hood. You haven't noticed that? Well, I'm sure y'all probably don't go to the hood, but
you know, they don't have no smoother king in the hood. Bill, let me ask you. Do you think as
a white man I'm going to get in trouble by any response I'll give you to this question?
Believe it. No, the real reason why I call, I'm just what,
did this for both of you guys, I'm driving some kind of stuttering? Anyway, do you think if
you took Deshawn Watson and put him on a Dallas Cowboy and swap out of debt with the
Texans?
How do you think the sound will fare up with the Cowboys versus the Tays?
I mean, do you think that went to Super Bowl with the Cowboys or vice versa and I hang up a list?
Thanks, Gary.
All right, Bill.
Which means Bill can't play, believe it or not.
He's already called the show.
Well, we usually relax those rules for believing that.
He wants us to flip Dak and to Sean.
I'm looking at smoothie king locations across the city.
So you're telling me that there are not smoothie kings in black neighborhoods?
I don't know.
is there not one on U of H campus that would count right yeah that counts that's the hood
that is in the hood that is not it's the garden district is that what you're that what they're
trying to church it up and call no people give me this Edo stuff as well it's east downtown yeah
that's just a place where you don't go because you're going to get robbed another time I was thinking
about gentrify it in Edo but everybody keeps telling me crime is still horrible over there yeah don't
do it they're gentrifying it as hard as they can I do want to live in downtown at some point
Really?
Next to a smoothie king.
Are you going to get a condo or something?
I mean, like, have a bachelor pat even though I'm not a bachelor?
Yeah.
So, like, what do you call it, like a satellite office?
That's not a terrible idea.
I want you to call Kim tonight and see if you can get that panned out.
I'll get her on the horn.
You know, what flood attendants do when they are stationed in cities where they don't live,
they will all rent a bunch of the girls or guys will rent an apartment just so they can sleep and watch TV when they're not working.
Like, for instance, if you worked for, say, Delta, and Delta doesn't have a hub here, but you are a station of Atlanta.
And you have to fly to Atlanta and just start working.
A lot of people would just get an apartment in Atlanta, like five or six flight attendants.
And just share it.
And just share an apartment.
Which sounds a little freaky, actually.
What do you mean?
Five or six flight attendants sharing an apartment together?
What's wrong with that?
They're hardly there.
There's nothing wrong with that.
It sounds really good, actually, right?
If you're single man or if you're that single woman?
What if there are both?
That sounds awkward.
What if you're trying to hook up with a pilot?
Nobody wants to be hooking up with a girl who's got five roommates.
Yeah, but nobody's in that apartment at the same time.
They're all flying around the world.
And why is it freaky?
Why is it different than anybody other arrangement then?
It just seems like a clean bed.
You're just picturing them all pillow fighting at some point.
Not today's flight attendants.
What do you mean?
Like, they're typically they're older now.
You brought this up.
You're the one talking about how freaky, quote, freaky it is.
I'm saying it could be freaky.
I'm not saying it is freaky.
I'm saying it could be freaky.
Oh, my God.
What are we going to do with you, Matt?
You need to get on some more international flights.
They still do things right over there.
Like during their rest time on the flight?
You know how they have to carry like 10 flight attendants?
No, what airline was it?
KHM?
Something like the, whatever.
KLM.
That's it.
The Dutch one?
Yeah.
They've got some good flight attendants on that one.
How would you know?
I've flown from Amsterdam to Detroit.
Are you a sleeper cell?
What are you going?
I was back when I was in the military.
We have non-Florida stories in the show tomorrow.
Yes.
Which probably is coming in a good time.
By the way, I'm trying to book, for those of you that are wrestling fans,
so just Ross, close your ears for a second.
I'm trying to book Jim Cornett,
the famous manager of the Midnight Express.
He is selling a new set of Houston wrestling DVDs.
And for those of us that were fans growing up of Houston Wrestling on Friday
on Saturday nights and Sunday mornings.
He's got some of the best matches of all time.
So I'm trying to book because we don't, Friday, later this week,
we've got nothing really going on.
The Texans aren't playing.
The big game in college football is not in the Big 12 conference.
It's LSU versus Alabama, obviously.
But I'm trying to book them.
So if any of you that are wrestling fans,
spread the word to Jim Cornett.
We're trying to get him on the show to talk up his brand-new DVD collection.
Ross, what is believe it or not today?
Popeye's related.
I'm sure Popeye just loves all this extra attention, by the way.
They're not spending a damned
You know, here's the problem is, I'm guilty of this.
I said I'm done with Popeyes
because if you can't give us the chicken sandwich,
we don't want to hear from you anymore.
And now they can, and it's 15 deep.
It's 15 deep.
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Rossi, we don't have a dog in the fight between LSU and Alabama,
but are we fired up for that game?
one versus two.
I feel like every time those two teams play,
it's like a nine three game.
Now, Grant, LSU's got the best quarterback
they've had probably in over a decade, safe to say, right?
Yeah, I don't think that's going to be the case this year.
And also, I would say, I mean, how healthy is to a heck of a viola?
They don't know.
It's all about what he does practicing today and probably tomorrow.
I think Sabin is being very coy about how much practice time he's doing.
what he's doing, how much mobility he has.
Hmm.
I'm fired up for it, I guess.
Should be good.
What else is going on?
It's not going to be like the game of the century.
That was like 9 to 6, wasn't it?
It almost felt like a de facto national championship game.
And then nobody scored.
Well, because didn't they rematch and then BAML1?
LSU won that one.
Yeah, it was 9 to 6.
Right.
And then they rematch for the championship and then BAML1,
that one. By the way, the college football rankings, the first one of the year coming out
tonight in between the college basketball games. I'll be looking forward to seeing where Texas is.
All right, let's take a look where the slate is. Because last week, there was only like
three Big 12 games, period. And yeah, I'm not counting American in conference because my squad
just is just... What's their record right now? They're three and six.
That's rough.
Mike, my cry on your shoulder for just a second. Yeah, come here.
we're at the Peach Bowl
crushing that
Florida state ass
of the third string quarterbacks
because the first two were afraid to play us
scared
we have this freshman All-American
and Ed Oliver
we have Deerick King doing his thing
not Deerick King it was Greg Ward
and we're on top of the
Power 6 world
now we're 3 and 6
we have no healthy players left
and Dana's promising me
big and better things.
Please, Dana, don't let me down.
The school don't let us down.
Because three and six
sucks.
We have a hard enough time.
Truth, because I bear the truth on the show, we have a
very hard time bringing people to our games.
We're just not, we're not
a walk-up in campus. You know what I mean? Like,
there aren't people going, hey, what are you doing today? Let's go see
you of H-Play.
At T-D-E-CU Stadium.
I'm sorry, Matt.
And I got my president gave up 48 to Kansas
And my president of my university
Saying we fire coaches that go 8 and 4
And we're about to go under 500 for the first time in a long period of time
Long time
We wreak of wins
Bull games
Higher graduation rates
Excellence in beautiful facilities
And victories
We still have all the other stuff except the victories
part.
Big 12th slate this week.
Kansas State, Texas?
Huge.
Texas Tech, West Virginia, yawn.
Baylor, T.C.
How about Baylor, number 11 in the country?
Yeah.
They were left for dead like three years ago.
I would like for them to lose.
Because you want Texas to play in the Big 12 championship.
I see how you roll.
Yeah, I guess.
All right.
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Well, we've got pairs of tickets to see Joe Rogan on November 16th at the Toyota Center.
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So he's going to fill up an entire arena telling jokes?
That's great.
Well, he's really, really famous off his podcast now.
Yeah, I saw him on a stand-up special, either on Netflix or HBO or something like that.
I've never seen a comedian in a arena.
I've seen him in theaters and maybe some larger kind of stage type of thing, but never in a major arena.
I saw Dave Chappelle at the Smart Financial.
Does that count?
That's big.
That's 10,000, right?
It was Dave Chappelle and John Stewart and some of the guy wasn't very good.
But you could clearly hear all the jokes.
Yeah, it was good.
Dave Chappelle was good.
Let's play.
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Believe it. When Popeye's first open, it was known as Chicken on the Run. Believe it or not.
Not.
It was, sorry. Or as they say, Canada, sorry.
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The franchise is actually not named after the sailor, but rather the character Popeye Doyle in the 1971 film The French Connection.
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I did not know that, honestly.
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The whole show.
Poppey.
Poppies founder Al Coppola never graduated high school
and first got to start in the food service business selling donuts.
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Statement number two for the win.
In 2014, Popeye surpassed KFC as the chicken restaurant with the most locations in the
contiguous United States.
though KFC still holds the international record.
Believe it or not.
Believe it.
No, there's actually more KFCs everywhere.
Is Copeland the same guy that used to have the Copeland seafood restaurants too?
I don't think so.
I just wanted you to say contiguous.
I love contiguous.
That's only 48 states, not contiguous 50.
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During the late 1990s, former NBA player, Popeye Jones, was a spokesman for Popeyes and appeared in several commercials.
Believe it or not.
Not.
Yeah, that was stupid.
Statement number two for the way.
And there are Popeye's locations in Germany, France and Japan,
that are only on U.S. military bases and not open to the public.
Believe it or not.
Believe it.
Believe it.
There you go.
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You're going to see Joe Rogan.
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You're a favorite part of the show today.
I'm talking to Sean watching the OBP talk.
All right.
I like that.
In 2011, Popeye's release.
a turduckin sandwich for the holiday season. Believe it or not.
Not.
I'm going to tell you some right now.
Turduckins are delicious.
Turkey?
Turduck and patty they made.
That sounds gross.
Mixing with the rice and jumble chicken a like a macrib or something.
Sounds disgusting.
Oh, McRib sound.
Should we get a McRib before tonight?
No.
Rich on 790.
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Believe it.
Once he became rich, owner Al Culpin became famous for his spending.
He drove around New Orleans and a Rolls-Royce and even had a
a Popeye's helicopter. Believe it or not.
Believe it.
It is hard to believe, but yes, it's believable.
I just love that he's going around town in a Popeye's helicopter.
What is the most, you got 30 seconds. What's the most expensive thing you would purchase if you were insanely rich?
I was insanely rich.
Maybe a sports team.
Mine would be an airplane.
Okay.
I'd like a private jet because I'm living that lifestyle.
Yeah, hashtag Fancy Matt.
All right. Adam and Adam are next. They are known as the A-team tomorrow on the
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