The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - The Matt Thomas Show 12-6-19

Episode Date: December 6, 2019

The Matt Thomas Show w/ @SportsMT, @SportsRV, and @ProNickLow 12/6/19Ross and Brian share some memories of working with Greg Koch (0:00)Jerry Jones is afraid to fire Jason Garrett (19:08)Jerry Jones's Interview on 105.3 The Fan doesn't go to plan (37:50)Antonio Brown Is Back on Twitter (1:00:27)Rockets Get a Win Over the Raptors (1:11:48)

It's larger than life. Yeah. Lunch timers is the Mac Thomas show. 12.05. Here on Sports Talk 7. I already starting a little late, but that's because Greg Cook, we had to give him the proper sendoff. As he had Bunby come in studio. He had Santana Dodson.

He had Dan Pastorini, a full star-studded affair for the send-off of one. Greg Cook here on Sports Talk 790. Final show from him. He will be missed. More on that in a second. But this is the Matt Thomas show without Matt Thomas, Ross Villarreal alongside Brian Smith and our producer Nick Lowe. And if you want to get in, 7132, 12557.

97.1.3.1.25790 tweets to at Sports RV. So Nick, what was it like producing the last in the trenches show ever? It was amazing. Just how many people Greg Cook has affected. and how many of these huge names called to send Greg off. It was a fantastic show. Probably one of the best in the trenches I've ever worked. Yeah, Greg is one of those larger-than-life personalities.

I'll always appreciate him. I asked him to stay for this first segment of today, but he had to go because, I mean, he's just, he has to go, like, kiss babies for basic. He's going to do, like, a Dwayne Wade farewell tour, and he's going to go to, like, all his old haunts and hang out. So he's very busy. He can't hang out with us, Brian.

Mayor Gregg. Mayor, you know what? He's got my vote. He's going to go from Uncle Greg to Mayor Greg. He said he's going to run for Mayor of Amsterdam while he's over there. I think he should. So, I mean, just my little quick two cents on Uncle Greg, when I was first coming up here in this business, I started off as a producer, as Nick did, as a lot of people have.

And it was very slow going for me transitioning from one side of the glass to other. It's a very difficult transition to make. And so I had been hosting, like, Texans. preview shows and other stuff like that. I really hadn't done a whole lot of work on my own. And one of the days when Indy was out, Uncle Greg was one of the first ones to say, hey, I want Ross to host with me. So he went to Brian, and I believe it was Al Farb at the time.

It might even been before Chris Gordy here. He said, hey, I want Ross to host with me. I think he does a good job with Matt. So one of the first people to ever give me the opportunity to be on the other side of the glass was Greg. And every time I hosted with him, he would give me a problem with you doing anything in media. I'm sure, you know, Brian or Nick or whoever, I mean, whoever you are, you've had a little self-doubt every now and then, right? And I had, I was like, I don't know if I'm doing a good job.

Like, I'm just talking sports. Is this good? Am I okay? Am I stepping on Greg's toes? And, you know, he would tell me and he would be like, Ross, you're really good at this. And so he was one of the first people in the business, like besides my mom. Like, my mom told me I was really good at this. That was cool. And my brother or whoever, but if you hear from somebody who's been in the business, who's been around football, who's been around broadcasting for decades. And they tell you you're really good and they believe in you and they want you to do well. It really, Greg doesn't really know this. But that really meant a lot to me at that time.

That's something I needed to hear. And it's something I will never forget. He was one of the first guys to believe me in this business. And I'm still trying to make it in this business, of course. And I will always appreciate Greg for that. A true, the genuine article is what you would say, is what Greg Cook is. He's a great drinking buddy. He's an even better friend.

He was a great football player. He was just great at everything he did. And I enjoyed listening to In the Trenches coming into my drive for the last several years that I could always remember. It would always be the first thing I do when I get in my car to drive into work was flip on in the trenches. It was always entertaining. It was always great. And a big part of that, of course, was Indy Kalu and then Greg Cook, who I will always, I will never forget in my as far as long as I live. I will remember Greg Cook being instrumental in me and my confidence in my radio career.

Yeah, I was driving to energy. stadium and the first thing I did was get in the car today and turn on the radio. And there was a call that stood out that I feel like captures everything about, I mean, I've discussed it the last two days. You just said it perfectly Ross. Nick nailed it. But there was a call that they had on the final show today. And Indy obviously does a fantastic job. And Indy will keep rolling at 790. But there was a call and I, it was midway through when I turned on my car to go to Energy Stadium. And I was kind of in a rush. And it was some guy, it was a great call, but it was some guy basically saying that he always listened. He would start his day. He would listen every day. But he wasn't a regular caller.

And he was just out there. And his point was, Greg, you know, there were so many of us who are out there who just listen every day. And we love the show. And we love the back and forth between you and Indy and the honesty and the chemistry and that you guys are different but the same and that you're real and you know what you're talking all those things and it just it hit me that that is still in 2019 and this crazy social media no one can have a normal conversation anymore everything's so politicized everybody's you know 90 99% of people are so triggered all these things right it can be so difficult just even be on Twitter and have a tweet and there are thousands, tens of thousands

of people out there who for years have been listening to Indian Greg and they got it and it's just like someone's a silent majority type of feeling and I just thought that call captured how fantastic Greg has been, how fantastic that show has been and I've said this the last

two days when I moved here in 2012 to cover the horrendous Astros there was one person who was always great to me and the number two, and I've mentioned that person a lot, the number two was Greg And from day one, Greg was always, he was just real. I mean, I think that's the thing that we loved, we love about Greg.

You always know where you stand with Greg. He was real. He would tell a dirty joke. He would crack you up. He would also have great insight. And I also heard this driving in from Energy Stadium rushing to get here so I could kind of see Greg as you walked out. The uncle Greg stories, those will live forever.

You'll have your Greg memories and the, impact he had on you and always remember how kind he was to me. But the younger Greg's stories, that will be talked about and tweeted about and discussed for the next 20 to 50 years in Houston sports. Yeah, greatest radio bit I've ever heard and they're even better off air. If you, I mean, I would say just about there hasn't been a time where I've hung out with Greg and this is serious outside of work. There hasn't been a time where I did not cry laughing because he is so funny. The stories are so good. And his delivery is so perfect. Yeah. He's just a great. storyteller. So you know what? Hey, if you want to weigh in on Greg, we have to take a quick break

here on the Matt Thomas show. 713, 2,1, 2, 1,25790 is the phone number 7-1-3-2-1-2-790. We also got to talk about Texans, Broncos. What is going on with the Dallas Cowboys? I want to get into that. Until 3 o'clock, it is the Matt Thomas show. Ross, Viorial, Brian Smith, with you. Don't go anywhere. The Rockets had Red Nation. Matt has Maddie Nation. Things are going to start happening to me now. You made it. I'm somebody now.

More Matt Thomas now. Thomas show continues. Here on Sports Talk 7. I do without Matt Thomas. He is continuing to travel basically around the country. Let's see. I know the Rockets play on Saturday. Where is that game?

That game's at home. Matt Thomas, you should be doing this show. Come on. That's why they call him fancy. see Matt. He was in Toronto last night. Yeah, I know. Anytime he's going to be mildly inconvenience, he doesn't have time for show. He's a jet setter, but that would be pretty intense to get back to the show. Hey, come on.

Can you just let me give Matt's crap? I wait, wait, wait. I give Matt crap. It's anything that. Oh, you know what I just remember. We forgot to say, good morning strippers. You want to go ahead and do the honors, Brian? I'm not allowed to do. You can do that. No, I don't want to do it. Nick can do it. You know, Nick has done it before. You know, we should have a blown opportunity. We should have a great cook to it.

Yes, that's, you know what? But you're always, I got to be honest, you're always just at 12 o'clock when I come in. You're always just waking up. That's not true. I'm full of Vim and Vigor right now at 1219 in the a.m. We've got to get into this Jerry Jones stuff, man. I am, I am burning, burning. But there's so much else to get into.

Greg Cook calls. Yeah, we definitely got some people wanting to talk about Greg Cook. So let's go do that. We definitely got to get some Cowboys talk as well. Let's go in with David and Braeburn. He wants to talk about Mr. Greg Cook. What's up, David? Good morning, stripper.

There you go. Yeah, what's up, guys? Yeah, I had to decide this morning whenever I didn't know it was Greg's last show when I heard that coming in. I had to decide between a round of golf on this beautiful day and listening to Greg's last show. So I'm sure he'd forgive me for choosing to go ahead and play some balls with my dad. But I just, nothing really special to say,

except for just wanted to echo what everybody else had been saying that I was a truck driver in this town for the last many, years. Luckily, I'm not anymore, but listen to Greg and Indy every day. Their chemistry was amazing. I always love it, and you guys called it exactly right. That guy's a straight shooter. Always had something funny to say. Always had a good

perspectives, and I don't know if they can make them like that anymore. I mean, all the young guys are great. You guys are great, but there's something about that old school quality. You know, he had a little Green Bay Packers, smash mouth football field to him with everything he said, and he'll be sorely missed, and just wanted to call

it as a 790 fan and wish all the best going forward. Very well said. I don't know if the world will allow Greg Cooks anymore after, you know, he's here, but in 2019. He's grandfathered in. Yeah, he was grandfathered in. He was Uncle Greg Den, but the current version, I'm going to be honest, would never make it through the filter.

He would be out on Twitter. He'd be canceled on Twitter in two seconds. Right, yeah. And I think the caller brings up a good point about just there's like a certain something, right? It's everybody, everybody wants to find. and we do this in this business. Like we need a former football player who can also get in front of the mic.

Not every former football player. I mean, you've been a, not at all. There's very few. There actually, the percentage is probably worse for former players than it is for actual people that are in the media. It's a very fine, and you can tell. You can tell the ones that don't have,

they just don't have the, well, for Greg, it was his musk. Let's just be honest. Greg had this musk. He wakes up and he pisses excellence. That's what we appreciate you about Greg. But yeah, I mean, Greg Cook's don't grow on trees. You can't have a guy who was greatest.

Can't buy him. A literal Green Bay Packer Hall of Famer. And then to be as good as he is in front of, to be articulate, to be energetic, to be funny, to have good timing. To be humble. It was always humble, too. To give you straight opinions and all that type of stuff. It was just Greg Cook truly one of a kind. I'm glad you guys recognize that.

Of course you know that because he's been here for so many years. 713212-5-790. Tony and the woodlands want to talk some more Uncle Greg. I'm down. It is a very, very sad day in the sports talk radio industry. And you guys scared the heck out of me, man. I just got back in town. In Houston, I was away on vacation visiting my grandson with my wife in San Antonio.

The first thing I heard was the cut before the break saying, no more Uncle Greg stories, this and that. I had to pull the car over. I'm like, is he dead? I had to speak to your guy. and find out. Because by heart just like, I dropped. I was like, what?

You know, and then he said, no, he retired and this and that. But, you know, you want to talk about, oh, man, there'll never be a live Uncle Greg story again. That's the killer. That's the killer of it all. I played, I played, this is so funny. I was number one on the golf team, and I played on his hockey in college. So, you know, to,

It was a very weird mix, you know, and I would break the guy's chops because I played left wing. So if I, if I tipped one in, I told him I'd shift it in the net, you know, they'd break my chops saying, you know, all these different things about, you know, that's not really a sport or whatever. And the language, I had to completely change people. I had to be like, you know, excellent putter, thank you very much. and then on the hockey rink, you know, like a mental case. So it was funny, but I'm glad Greg's okay. And I just, you know, I'm coming from New York, I'd have to say the Howard Stern of sports radio. I mean, just he, the uncle Greg stories and everything, I mean, I'm going to miss that.

I'm going to miss that, dad. Thanks for the call, man. All right, Tony. Yeah, I appreciate it. Thanks for getting in. Yeah, I don't even, I mean, we can just get love on Greg for like three straight hours if we have to. I agree with what Tony said. I mean, he's just

one of those guys that you have to listen to and you enjoyed it just about every single day because there were so many things to his game. Like there's some radio hosts who are a little like one note and can only do one thing and all that type of stuff and Greg can do it all. Then he has the perspective of a player of

being a good player at a high level for a long time and then the different eras and the chemistry of course. We would be remiss if we didn't mention Indy Kalu how he was such a great mix in that show. It was just the perfect mix. When we'd first got them from 610, they were only on weekends. They wouldn't give them a day show. And honestly, I hadn't really heard them much. I was like, oh, I don't know who these two, these two old football players, what they're going to bring to the table. But I produced their show for a number of years. And it was just, it was great working with them every day. They also made, I always thought this was interesting about in the trenches. They made inside football, right? Because it was, it's the only football football show on 790, right? You have the morning show with Salisbury and you've had different people in that role. which is the morning show.

It's great. It's the morning show. Matt Thomas, I mean, Matt Thomas is a game show circus with a lot of very intelligent information. And Matt Thomas sounds like you're talking to a friend on the radio. And then you got Wex and Clanton and that's the A team, right? So the only show, since I've been working with 790 since 2012, the only show that was at all, you know, inside, inside football was in the trenches.

And they didn't just make it interesting, Ross. They made it relatable. They made it never feel, you know, I would get in my car, I'd be driving to Texas, driving to Astros, driving to Rockets, whatever, flip on 790. And they'd be having some inside conversation about left tackle or blocking or the scheme or whatever. And I like that stuff to read, maybe to watch a video of. Don't really.

It's not my cup of tea for two hours. I would listen. The dial would never change. They made inside football relatable. And then so much of it was the personality. and the chemistry and the humor and the peeling back the life curtain. I mean, that was also one of the best parts about Greg. Like, Greg would peel back not just the curtain.

He would peel back his life curtain. Whatever was going on in his life, he was going to tell you on the air. Yeah. And like he and Indy, like Indy and the hootie-hoos and the War Ows and giving each other crap about Arkansas and all that type stuff for the playing days and all this stuff. It was just, it was always something with that show. And like I said, I listened to it on my commute. every day since I've worked here

and worked at noon, I've listened to In the Trenches coming up here. I mean, there'll be people up here, be like, hey, you know, let's keep an eye on on our competitors, what they're doing. No, I would just listen to In the Trenches. I would forget every time because I would get engrossed in that show. 713 2125790 is the phone number,

713, 2125-790. Let's go against my better judgment. Howard, in Memorial here on the phone lines. What's up, Howard? This might interest you. I spoke to some neurology colleagues of mine, and this is a not uncommon result of playing football. The trauma of the football, maybe the contact with the helmets A and the turf B, similar to what Ali got when he got Parkinson's disease from boxing.

Howard, where are we going with this? In other words, when you get Parkinson's in football players, it is from the trauma of the sport. Yeah, Howard, Greg's talked about a lot of that. He's actually opened up about it. There was a bit in the chronicle on the website earlier this week. Greg's talked about a lot of that. He's dealt with other issues related to football. So I appreciate you sharing, but I think he's pretty aware of that.

Yeah. Anything else? No. Ross be nice. Why? Why? And the Brady. We were like honoring this man and he's talking about him getting his head beat in.

Come on. It may have played a factor in what he's dealing with. I think Howard is trying to share. Okay. Thanks, Howard. For the education. Thanks for the call, Howard. Have a good weekend.

Anything else or? Okay. You made him go away, Ross. I'm sorry. I love it. I just love it when I'm the friendly, nice guy. You're rough on Howard. Well, that's okay.

I've been hearing his calls for. To each their own. Not even only have I been living. screening his calls for 10 years. I've been listening to him on the radio for longer than that. And it's just, it's always a downer. I just have warm and feeling, fuzzy feelings today, so I can't, you know. It's the holidays.

It's great quick day. And then I heard Mr. Captain Debbie Downer, Howard Downer, from Memorial calling us. All right, we have to take a break on that. Beautiful day outside. Somebody bring us up. Say something positive, please. Here we go.

About Greg. When we come back, I want to get into the end. Because we need to do the rockets, still some leftover Astros, Garrett Cole News. Lots to get Texans Broncos. I want to get into the biggest cluster bleep in the sports

world. And it's about three and a half hours north. And I know we have some fans of that abomination that listen to this program. And you're welcome to call it. It's everyone 3, 2, 1, 2, 5, 790. Keep calling about Greg. 7.3, 2, and 2, 5, 790.

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third loss for the Cowboys, three and seven in their last 10 games. And when you can make Mitchell Trubisky look like Prime Steve Young, Tom Brady, you know you've got issues. As the Cowboys lose last night to the Chicago Bears on a Thursday night football, 31 to 24,

they made that late rally that really didn't mean anything. Kind of like the late touchdowns of the Patriots and the Patriots scored against the Texans. and what is going on. If you get down 31 to 14 in that game, I mean, the Chicago Bears are nights. You said yesterday, you predicted the Chicago Bears to win the game. I think that was one of the few people to pick the Bears to win the game.

A tip of the cap to you. So the Bears winning isn't a surprise, but the manner in which they did it, getting up 31 to 14 and just physically whipping the Cowboys, when they have so much talent that we've talked about. I mean, we can run through it. Zeke Elliott, Dag Prescott, they should simply be one of the best teams

Amari Cooper and the talent at the lineback and core and DeMarcus Lawrence and all that. You have to point to the coaching. And Jerry Jones this morning says he is not going to make a coaching change right now. A few things. Number one,

the Dallas Cowboys are an embarrassment to the Dallas Cowboys. And that's been going on for 20 plus years, but this is the team that was 13 and 3, not that long ago. You have your running back. You don't have a lot of injuries. They have zero, zero excuses right now. Number two, they are six and seven and still lead their division, which to me is another reminder that the NFL has to fix as soon as possible,

next season, whatever. And they won't because it's the NFL. The auto bid. But they have to fix that the division is everything because there is no reason right now the Cowboys or the Eagles should even be in playoff contention, which they are, the Cowboys still lead their division. Most importantly, and these two go together. Jason Garrett should have been fired years ago.

Jason Garrett should have been fired early this season. Jason Garrett should have been fired when Jerry threatened to do it to the national media, the local media, the regional media just a couple weeks ago, then backtracked. Then the Thanksgiving game against Buffalo, which was the previous season low embarrassment, should have fired him before they left the stadium. Of course, Jerry's not going to do it. What does Jerry Jones start doing? He starts talking about, well, we can still make a Super Bowl run, and I believe in this

team and it all come together. And then you have last night, and you have freaking Jason Witten arguing on the sidelines, all the players fighting. Michael Bennett looks like he lost his puppy. I don't know if Michael Bennett's your big midseason edition, maybe that says something about the state of your team. Probably not a coincidence. The Patriots are having a little rough figure than expected because they had Michael

Bennett at one point. I'm having fun there. but here's here's the kicker Jerry I mean I don't know how Jerry Jones got to this point he obviously has he's surrounded by nothing but yes men I've never thought that the local media there

helps some of them are very good but so much of that around the cowboys for years I mean this goes back 10 15 years a lot of it's just I can say ass on the air right sure yeah it's just ass kissing right it's just currying favor

and the star and all that stuff, that doesn't help things. But ultimately, that doesn't explain away the fact that Jerry Jones, who's worth, whatever, $8 billion, who by snapping his fingers in that city and that metroplex, can make anything in the world happen. I mean, if there's anyone who runs Dallas and partially helps run the NFL, it's Jerry Jones. And he, Ross, he is afraid. Jerry Jones is afraid to fire Jason Garrett. I no longer have any understanding of what is going on there from an NFL perspective.

When you have that talent, you have that roster, you extend Elliott. Dak Prescott isn't close to an extension. Dak Prescott's not the problem. He was off last night. The numbers look good. Amari Cooper's your best receiver. He's not close to an extension. Your chemistry is shot.

The team quit again last night. And every other owner, every other general manager, every other person in the NFL that is running an NFL team, Jason Garrett would be fired. And I don't understand how Jerry can be so strong and so powerful and have the star behind him. And I have no other explanation. I'm not trying to take a cheap shot. I truly believe this.

I think he is paralyzed by fear. He is afraid to fire Jason Garrett. Why does Jason? And I've heard idiotic stuff the last couple weeks. Well, who are you going to promote to be in a room? It doesn't matter. Your current coach isn't getting the job done. You are not going to win the Super Bowl with Jason Garrett this season.

You're going to be one and done if you make it. I still think Philly's going to take the division. Why, out of everything Jerry's going to say? And last night he came out post game. He said, I'm just going to answer one question to make this short and sweet. He talked for five minutes. He can't stop talking. So top it all off.

So I lay all that out. Then today, it always gets better with the Cowboys. Today, he's on his regular radio appearance. they had to yank him off the air. And this is story still developing. He was cursing on the air. He took shots. It appears at the radio host.

He cursed on the air. He's an NFL owner. He's in the NFL Hall of Fame. So he's cursing at radio host on the air. He can't stop talking and foaming at the mouth. And he still hasn't done the one thing that he has to do. And everybody, whether you like the cowboys or hate them, everyone who watches and follows the NFL knows it,

Jason Garrett has not. got done with the Cowboys, and Ross, this has been going on for years. Yeah, I was trying to get, you know what, the audio is posted up now. It wasn't earlier, so we'll try to get some of that. But Jerry Jones on his interview on the fan, I'll send you this link, Nick. We can get working on getting some of this. But, of course, I'm imagining they've cut out the parts where Jerry Jones is literally cursing on air. He started the interview on, this is a K&C show, whatever that is, on 1053, The Fan in Dallas.

Get your damn act together yourself. settle down for just a little bit. I don't like your attitude to come in. He's talking to the hosts here. I've been traveling all night and don't have the patience to jack with you today. Like Jerry Jones is coming completely unhinged at this point. And then apparently he had dropped a couple of BS bombs, so they had to turn him off and they thought he got hung up on and all this stuff.

Like, Jerry, calm down, dude. You don't go on the radio and curse. This is not your first radio. I know you're basically almost an octogenarian, but geez. And this whole, that whole thing is set up. So Jerry can, you know, you bow down to Jerry. You bow down to King Jerry. Right, right.

And I, you know, I don't believe in, I'm not taking shots at all people. I'm not trying to take any low blows here. These are just facts. He has completely lost it. You know, he's all about himself. And he has been for a long, this is Jerry Jones are talking about it. He's been delusional for some time. I want me some glory.

Oh. But how did it get to this point that the owner, GM, president, founder, creator of the Dallas Cowboys, who's got the star in Frisco. I mean, he runs that whole world. The only thing that he really has to do right now, and he also can't find a kicker,

the only thing he has to do right now is fire Jason Garrett, and he can do everything else. He can curse on the air. He can talk to reporters a billion times. He can talk about the Super Bowl, and he is afraid to do it. And I don't understand.

I cannot understand from an NFL, football, sports, ownership perspective, why he will not pull that trigger. It's sad. We'll see. I mean, I think, well, if I wanted to defend Jerry Dore, you know what, I'll do it next here on Sports Talk 790. We've got a quick break.

We've got a couple of you guys on hold. We'll get to you. We're also talking about the Cowboys. We've got a lot of stuff to get through Texans. Rockets with a nice win over Toronto last night. All that and more. 713-212579. Matt Thomas Show continues after this short break.

At least now we know that losing sucks. And if anybody knows how much losing sucks, it's Matt Thomas. I'm outstanding. This is Whitney Merciless. Back to the Matt Thomas Show on Sports Talk 790. Mitchell Chavisky, right side, three receivers, one to the left, takes the snap. Has time looking to the end zone. Pass, throw.

Over the middle, caught, and it's Alan Robinson. With a touchdown in the 16-7, Bears lead. That's a real shame. Cowboys lose 31 to 24 talking about it last segment. I will say this in defense of Jerry Jones. The Cowboys are in a playoff race. And if you look at the NFC standings, which I didn't realize,

the Cowboys would be in line for a playoff spot, even if it were just the best six teams. Because you look at the wild cards who are the Vikings and the San Francisco 49ers at 10 and 2. After that, no, I guess the Rams will be 7.5. I'm an idiot. I would actually pause the show right now and in lifetime go back and just delete everything you said. They would be seventh actually. Sorry, I missed the Rams somehow. Somehow I missed the Rams. So the Rams would be in the playoffs instead of the Cowboys. But the Cowboys would be seventh. That's, you know, that's not that egregious. There's a lot of top heavy at the NFC. But anyways, what I'm saying about not firing Jason Garrett is that, I mean, does that make you, does that make them better prepared for whatever playoff run they're going to have? Like, I don't think they're going to go far.

with Jason Garrett, but whoever the interim coach is, are the Cowboys better up? Because they're going to make the playoffs. Are they going to fire Jason Garrett for the season? Absolutely. That's what I'm saying. Fire him now. That's what I'm saying. Fire him after the season and you can go through the playoffs with him or whatever then you're maybe better suited.

And you're probably not going to win a playoff game anyways. They have to do, they have way too much talent. They have been underperforming for years. And this, Jerry's mishandling horrendous, embarrassing, mishandling the situation has helped put this team

in this spot. If there's anybody who's responsible, primarily it's not Jason Garrett, it's Jerry Jones. Because no wonder the players have quit. See, to me, you're sending a message to you, that team, which has so much talent

that, you know what, this season's done already. And if your players, I think the NBA, Major League Baseball, NFL, The season's not done, though. Their season's done. They're going to make the playoffs. The season's not done.

Who cares they to make the playoffs? They're only making the playoffs, Ross, because they're in the NFC East. Right. But they're still making it. What are they going to do? Doesn't matter, Brian. I'm still going to make that. I don't mean, drop that on you.

But they're still going to make the playoffs. I don't care. Okay. Well, are you better off with Rod Marinelli or whoever as your head coach than Jason Garrett? Any other team would have already fired Jason Garrett. They would have fired him on Thanksgiving. They would have fired him. Not the Texans.

Bill O'Brien. just get the Patriots. No, I'm saying, Bill O'Brien with 4 and 12 got an extension. That's what I'm saying. Any other team? Ross, that doesn't count. That's a one-off year,

and they had a ton of injuries that season. And they didn't have, they didn't, did they have Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott and that line and that defense that season? No. I'm telling you that I don't know that Bill O'Brien would be,

would be fired under the exact same circumstances. You basically sound like a Jerry Jones, Jason Garrett Apologist, which is blowing my mind. I'm not an apologist. I'm saying, what's your alternative? You can say, we can say fire this guy and We'll move this guy.

Coaches get fired all the time. Of course they get all. But what's your alternative? I'm saying firing him after the team. All I'm saying is fire him after the season. Fire him now. Okay. 713, 2-1-2-5-7-90.

7-1-3-2-5-7-90. Doseckis. Want to talk about some Uncle Greg. What's up, Doseckis? Hey, I'm sorry. I'm on the speaker, can you hear me? Yeah, can you try to get us off the speaker, please? I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. Listen, I was trying. I just wanted to share some with Uncle Greg, and hopefully he's listening. I know I enjoy all the calls and all that, but I just want to share some with you guys. I don't know if I'm a little mad time as knows. I've been out of work for six years. I was in the airline industry for 33 years, and unfortunately I had to live because of my health. So I just want to tell Uncle Greg that, and I think, Brian, you know, I've been listening to Sports Radio since 69, 70.

I mentioned one time I need a martini, Mark Edmondson, Barry Warren, and all those guys, all those legends sent. This last six years has been, they've been. real special to me because it's just about every day. And not only Ross and all those 7-90 shows, not only that I only listen to that show, but, you know, that's basically as being my, I guess, stress release, listening to sports and all that. And I just wanted to tell Uncle Greta that I really appreciate that.

And Ross, I also enjoy the words you said a whole ago, the advice that he gave you during your time there. And there's nothing, guys. You could have a degree, you could have a doctor's degree, and whatever, but there's not like advice coming from a veteran, especially in your profession, because I learned that in my career,

and I was able also to share my experiences. But, you know, I wanted to tell I'm a career like that, and I don't know BTS and Ross, I guess you all know I'm a big Packer fan. I don't know if I was the biggest listener right now and listening to in the trenches, Andy. I know he's going to do an awesome show. He's going to continue

the ropes, and I just wanted to show that, and I know not only you, Ross, but all your colleagues that he left, give a lot of advice. And I want to share it with him. And also, Brian, I enjoy that article you sent the other day about the Astros. I think it was very detailed. Thank you very much.

I appreciate it. I don't know what's going to happen with the Astros. You know, I love football, but baseball, I guess it's my life. I've never made you in person, Brian, but maybe one day I will. And, and Raj, you and Matt Thomas have really been my close friends, especially through my situation. I know what I love about Matt that every time that I'm meeting me person, the first thing he'll ask me, or a comment is, how's my health? And that really, that really means a lot to my life and sports of all of being my life. I'm hanging in there.

I don't know if you guys have heard of DM. DM is short for the Maraomatocitis. It's an, and I'm sorry, I'm sharing it with you. No, go ahead. Go ahead, man. It's good to hear from you. It's an immune system disorder that affects you, it's for life. It affects your muscle tissues and your joints and all that. But I've been blessed that, believe it or not, and I want to, I guess, use this as a testimony. I've been blessed for the last, what, 10, 13 years when I was diagnosed. I'm still kicking.

And I just wanted to share a lot of you guys. And I know that Uncle Greg was diagnosed with, and I read that article. It's an awesome with Parkinson's that. I just wanted to share with him that it's not only him out there. There's a lot of men out there and ladies that go through this, but my advice to everybody is aside from all those sports, it's always put the men up a bear, the men up stir first and everything will come into place. And thanks for listening to me guys, Brian, the Astros, like you mentioned yesterday, that the trade they were getting. And I think I asked you to any, and I think the guys this morning mentioned, and I think it was Sean or Michael on the rumors for Wilson Contreras.

Have you also heard anything about that? And also, I know we need one more picture, and I know Lance is coming back. I would like to listen to your take on if you really think, and you too, Ross, if Forrest is going to be considered one of our starting five. Guys, thank you for listening to my words, to my comments. I love you guys. Nick, I love you, man.

I love everybody sports 90, and you're always going to be a part of my life. All I'm here on Earth. God bless. Take care. and GPG, Brian, which means GoPaggo, those words go to Uncle Greg. Take care and God bless guys. Have a good one. Okay, you too. Thanks a lot for the call and happy holidays

and thanks for sharing your story. I appreciate that. I'm sure Greg will love to hear that. Thanks, ma'am. Yeah, I hope you're feeling better. But I haven't heard I haven't seen Contreras. Not saying it won't happen, but I haven't seen it much now. Okay. All right. I would have to look at his, like, of the contracts. And I think he asked about Whitley. I mean, the classic is Whitley will be allowed to compete for a spot

and he'll have to earn it. It'll be up down. Yes. Because, I mean, he struggled last year. If he goes into spring training and blows him away and you know, he can be called up in May. He could make the team on a spring training. I mean, you know, yeah, but it won't be AJ holding him back or Luna holding him back

with the Astros. He'll just simply have to earn it and prove that he's ready. Definitely going to factor into the plans at some point, or at least they're hoping that he factors into the plans. All right. Time for a break here. That's the first hour already. It's gone. Matt Thomas Show. Friday edition, if you want to get in, it isn't anything goes Friday as well. So 713, 21, 25, 790, on 3,2, 125, 790, Brian Smith, Matt, not Matt Thomas, Ross, Vreal, Nick Lowe, with you till 3 o'clock.

Don't go anywhere. Is the Matt Thomas show. In H-Town, Sports Talk, 79. Ross, via Real, the Matt Thomas show without Matt Thomas. Brian Smith, Nick Lowe, and you at 713, 23, 2. 2-125-7-90, 7-13, 2-1-2-5-7-90, talking a fair amount in the first hour about the Cowboys and their latest loss losers of three straight, losers of seven of their last 10 games, 6 and 7 on the season and still favored to make the playoffs because the NFC least is just that bad.

Jerry Jones, we talked about this in the last hour as well. Jerry Jones joined 1053 the fan for his weekly interview. And apparently things didn't start off on the right foot here. So we finally got the audio. So I wanted to play this for you guys. Here's a little bit, the first part, Jerry Jones getting asked if he's embarrassed about the Cowboys play. What answer do you have for how this team is playing right now?

We're not playing very well. Are you embarrassed? Are you embarrassed as an organization about how the team is playing? Hey, get your damn act together. You're set. Okay? We're going to have a good visit this morning, but settle down just a little bit. I mean, as a Cowboys fan, Jerry.

We've got a lot to go over. We're not going with your question, but I'm going to give you the answers I want to give you this morning. And I don't like your attitude to come in. Wow. I've been traveling all night, and I don't have the patience to jack with you today. I don't have the patience to jack. I'm going to start saying all that time. I don't want to jack with you.

Don't make me jack with you, man. have the patience to jack with you today. All right? That's gold. This is amazing. Day. No, hold on. Keep it going.

Keep it going. I'm having it all night. I'm not, I don't have the patience to jack with you today. All right, Jerry. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it. Let's get the next one. Okay.

So the interview continues. So I think what happens, and I'm just reading this off the amazing internet, but I believe, because Ross, you know this better than I do. Nick, there's, like, filters or whatever. So if you curse. dumping, it'll dump. Right. And so I, that,

well, somebody has to dump the store. So Jerry owns everything. I don't know if he owns a station, but he calls it every week. So he knows what's going on. So the station automatically, not, they didn't do it manually, it automatically dumped Jerry Jones because he cursed. So then he had to call back. So that's,

I wonder if maybe their dump button is tied into the phone system or something like that. We should have something like that on us. Yeah, it probably is. But luckily, their internet stream seemed to have caught it all. Picked it all up. Yeah. So good.

That's good. So here's Jerry Jones after the latest loss where he's going to retain Jason Garrett. Here's him cursing on air. But, of course, we don't have the full curse. If I did have answers as to different directions regarding talent, if I did, I would not share them right now because, first of all, if you've got other teams' talent in mind, that's tampering. Even if you add them something in mind, unless they're not involved in the National Football League right now,

and it wouldn't be smart if they were involved in other places. So, you know, we want to do a good job here. I want to do a good job with you guys. But there's a whole bunch of time when I have to bullshit the hell out of you. I totally understand that because of some of the answers you just can't give. Do you understand bullshit? Well, we just had to drop that twice. So I just leave it.

Ah! Oh, Cherry is just... I believe you should be able to do anything you want, you know, within respectful lines in life. As long as old as you are, age should not be a factor. I will, and he did travel. He was in Chicago. He also traveled. Yes.

An amazing first class, I'm sure. Is it just me? I mean, and I thought post game last night, he just, he sounds absolutely exhausted and partly delusion. I'm just not sure how. He's unhinged? Yeah, I just, he doesn't sound at all like he's, he does not sound like an NFL owner. He does not sound like a GM.

He does not, and some, you know, smart ass is going to say, well, that's, of course, it's Jerry Jones. He's been that way for 25 years. And he's always known for shooting from the hip. But, I mean, he sounds like he has no idea what he wants to do, what should be done. He's probably a little hungover. What needs to be said. Yeah. You understand bullshit.

Yes, I do, Jerry. And now we got another trove of. Jerry drops, which I'm really, really excited about. I'm not going to jack with you today. You need to start saying that to Matt Thomas every time he annoys you. Matt, Matt, I'm not here to jack with you today. Yeah, well, I would just be dropping that every segment, though. So, but I mean, how did we get here with the Cowboys?

And it's funny? Remember we posed this question? Was it last year you were on or was it this year when we had? It was this summer. Jason Garrett. Or did you rather have Jason Garrett or Bill O'Brien? It was before the season. I think I actually ended up doing.

I don't know if I had specifically had a column on it? I may have. Or I framed it around a column. Yeah, who would you rather have? Jerry Jones or Cal McNair? Who'd you rather have Jason Garrett or Bill O'Brien? Then I actually heard you and Matt steal that like two weeks ago. You stole it for me first. Hold on.

Come on now. I don't have patience to Jack what you did. I think a few weeks ago I said, I think I said Jason Garrett. Or did I say Bill O'Brien? No, I think I said Bill O'Brien, begrudgingly. I said Bill O'Brien. I think in the summer I said Jason Garrett. I think recently I said Bill O'Brien. And now I guess it's got to be Bill O'Brien.

Jason Garrett and I have nothing against him. You know, Ivy League educated. Seems like a, that's all everyone says. Bill Bryant, very nice guy. He's educated. He just, he coaches scared. I'm just, you got to do something on the side.

I mean, some of it's for show. And you'll hear this in baseball a lot and I don't believe in it. I don't believe like baseball's different, right? You'll hear from fans, talk radio, Astros, lose. How come his just and yeah. Well, I mean, there's a lot of stuff that goes on behind the scenes.

I'm not saying that. an NFL coach has to yell and scream at all. No, I don't think so. But you can't, it often helps. You can't just stand on the sideline, not be the offensive coordinator, not be the defensive coordinator, not really have much control over what's going on specifically on the field, and just stand there for three hours with your arms folded and the headset on.

I don't really know what he does at times. You have to, you have to emanate like an aura of confidence. That's what I mean. That's what I mean, Ross. You don't have to be, you don't have to be a right. That's why I would fire him. You have to be a leader. And you have to be somebody that the team can feel confident in, that you know what you're doing.

Like, if you just go out there and look completely lost and you just clap at everything, then maybe you do lose a little bit of respect. And a lot of it is symbolic or, you know, it makes sense because we're in the moment and the team is losing. But you look at the sideline last night and everybody's yelling at everybody on that sideline, trying to pump each other up, trying to call each other out. Jason Garrett is just standing there like this picture of. Zinn when you're down to Mitch, you're making Mitch Trubisky look like Tom Brady. You can't be in chaos. And I think also what separates the good coaches and great coaches in the NFL from others is attention to detail as well. And I just don't feel like, I mean, you feel like Bill Belichick always has all his bases covered. He knows what to do in every

situation. He's in control of timeouts. He's in control of, I mean, the team discipline and all those types of things. You just have never under the Jason Garrett Cowboys, really under the Cowboys, probably ever, have you ever felt like there was a lot of discipline and accountability, but certainly not under the Jason Garrett Cowell's. The last two games, the Buffalo game, and I've watched them both. The Buffalo game

and the last night against the Bears, post game ESPN, somebody was shouting about well, this is on the players, this is on the players. This is, yeah, part of it is. This is on the coach. If your team is consistently jumping off sides on third and nine and third and four and giving the team,

giving the opponent on the road, downs, that's discipline. That's coaching. That's, that's the buy-in. You don't, you just don't. You don't see that from the great teams in the NFL, the contenders. You might see that from a six and seven team leading the NFC East. The kicking game, the offense. Oh gosh, the kicker. Dak throwing on, I think it was third down to some fullback who hasn't played the entire, he didn't even know the ball was coming. He didn't even look. Now, part of that is the play call in the quarterback, but ultimately, man, the axe fall. I mean, you know, the buck has to stop. with somebody. Jerry is delusional cursing on the air. And Jason Garrett's just constantly just

standing on the sidelines, arms folded, kind of patting guys on the butt. And I think one of the things you look at too in the NFL games, like if you're losing games that happens in the NFL, but if you're like they got down 26 to 7 to the to the bills and that game was over. They scored at the end and made it look better. They got down 31 to 14 to the Bears last night. That game was effectively over. So you look at how they're performing. If you're just getting your ass, kicked. Like if you're competing, you turn it over at the end. Yeah, there's a by three at the end and it's 3734. Okay,

that's different. It's more excused. They're getting their ass kicked. The Cowboys are getting beat up and down the field. And that's problem. My biggest problem of the night, I rarely get into Cowboys stuff. I have better things to do in my life. But they, you just look at their talent. And it is, it is just

being misused and it's miscoached. And I just, I believe, I've seen it enough with other teams and other sports and the NFL, obviously. It's just, it's a trickle down effect and it starts to go and it just erodes. And that team has eroded right now to the point that Jerry Jones is on the air on no sleep and who knows dealing with what else cursing out the radio host. Hungover cursing out radio hosts.

It's not like they were asking them hard questions. It's not like they were grilling him and on and on. I mean, he's worth $8 billion and he's getting offended and triggered by Dallas radio host dropping curse words on the air and having to be bleeped. Get your damn act together. Yeah, I'm sorry, Jerry. I'm going to try. We're going to try to get our act together in the next segment.

You guys want to weigh in on that. Oh, my gosh. 2-1-2-5-790. 7-1-3-2-1-2-5-7-90. We also got other NFL stuff to talk about. Texans, Broncos. Rockets win against Toronto. We haven't talked about that.

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There's a whole bunch of time when I have to boo to hell out of you. Get your damn act together. Get your damn act together. I don't have the patience to jack with you today. I don't have the patience to jack with you today. Do you understand bullshit? Do you understand bullshit? You know what I need from you, Brian?

Get your damn act together. He sounds like some deranged former CIA director or something like that. He's like sitting on his porch being interviewed or something like that. With a shotgun in his lap. We did things in a different way in a different time and place. All right? You wouldn't understand. You're never there.

It's easy for you to say, we'll sit there with your notepad and act like you know what it was like when the bullets were flying. Jerry Jones. Thank gosh you are a Texans fan, Houston. You don't have to deal with the Cowboys. Well, Texans have their own issues, but hey, at least they're in a better spot right now. The Texans are 8 and 4. They have the Sean Watson. Yes.

They just beat the Patriots. They're 99% making the playoffs. They have a trap game coming up. They have a trap game coming up. They'll win Sunday. Cortland Sutton's coming to town, 6-4, 215 pounds. Philip Lindsay could put up 100 yards. Philip Lindsay's good.

Who's there at a running rag? Royce Freeman. Is he still playing? I don't know. Like, I can't be, I honestly can't say that I've been watching a ton of Denver Broncos football. You've been missing, man. Have I? Have I been missing the Broncos train? John Elway is the quarterback. Really? He's back. He's the court of the first quarterback slash GM. Terrell Davis is the backup running back. Honestly, John Elway probably couldn't do much worse than what they've been running out there at quarterback as is. Jewelock's got a nice arm, but Romeo Cornell will figure him out. Is the bloom off the, the bloom is way off the John Elway rose. But is he going to be, I don't know if they'll have fired. That's the problem. That's the thing with Denver.

I mean, Peyton Manning saved their butt and by the end he had a noodle arm and they still won the Super Bowl and that was it. Gary Kubiak. Gary Kubiak saved John Owey. Yeah, if I was the Broncos, I'd move on from Elway this year. Well, Wade Phillips really saved all of them. There we go. Very true.

Very true. Very true. That Super Bowl was Wade Phillips. For sure. So, yeah, what have they had at quarterback? And since Peyton Manning, I mean, it's been... Case Keenham. Case Keenham.

Brock Oswald, I didn't really go. he went to the to the Texans, of course. Then you had Paxton Lynch in there for a little bit. Joe, how do you go into the season signing Joe Flacco and thinking he's the answer? Trevor Simeon. Trevor Simeon era. Paxton Lynch, Case Keenom and Joe Flacco, and then Brandon Allen. Oh, who?

I mean, the whole Paxton Lynch thing, like, that was a miss, a miss, miss. You don't miss that bad and keep your job in the NFL. That was Lee Steinberg, Smoke and Mirrors. I remember him talking about the year. Yeah, yeah, that's what you. I'm saying. Lee Steinberg, I remember him going around and radio row and going on interviews and talking about how

there was always leaking out about how Paxton Lynch could go number one. Lee Seiber did the same thing with Garrett Gilbert. Yes. Because I covered that, I remember that was I think there was a last one of the last drafts I covered as a beat writer. He did the same thing with Garrett Gilbert. If he's if he's pushing, sometimes by, but you got to watch out

for those lean Steinberg. He's a he's a wily old veteran agent. But yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens with young Mr. John Elway. Actually, he's not young anymore, but I wonder if he could, like Joe Flacco, that's your, that's really your plan. That's your, right. Your Bronco fan, I mean, imagine being a Broncos fan of how conflicted you would be.

Like, you don't want to say bad thing. You probably have literally a shrine to John Elway. And your dog is named Elway, and your firstborn is named John. And you, because the Nuggets have never, you know, they're good now, but they're going to win it. The Rockies, you know, had a couple years. And other than that, they're a joint series once way back in the day, right? But, you know, in the last decade, for the most part. I don't really know with the avalanche. I don't really care. Yeah, I'm going to, they were good back in the day. I don't look. I don't know. But yeah,

you probably, all you have to hang on to really is Elway in the Super Bowl is in 97 and 98. So it's like, and that he won one not that long ago with Peyton Manning and Gary Kubi, I can wait to Phillips. But the second that happened. happened. Then it was over. Has he bought enough goodwill with the city for them to say he can just do whatever he wants? He has carpalance for the race. Basically the entire rest of his life. I don't think so. Probably not. And if I'm if I'm a fan, if I'm there, the flaco thing, that would be the defining, you know, okay, you've horribly missed on Paxton Lynch. Trevor Simmons. Case Keenham. You know, Keenum. But you're, you're nailing it, Ross. You're going to go into the season. But you know who also missed out? Kareem Jackson. Cream Jackson went there, took some money. Yeah, he's doing okay. He might have a nice game on Sunday, though, for payback. Well, is it hashtag revenge game for Kareem Jackson?

Probably is he going to be showing up? For Kareem Jackson? Probably is. Is he going to pick Dishon Watson? He might try and take it. Deshawn Watson normally only throws his interceptions into the defensive line, though. So that's going to be a little difficult for Kareem Jackson. But I mean, so Texans are eight-point favorites last check in this game.

So you're at home. You're eight-point favorites. you should win this one comfortably. Just come out and be aggressive. Just don't. Be e-aggressive? Be aggressive. Be aggressive.

Attack. I think, you know, I feel like Bill O'Brien's gotten a lot better at that a couple of years. I mean, we had the years of where you would call Gary Kubiak, conserviac, and on fourth and two, on like the 40-yard line of the opponent, he's punning, and you play scared, you play not to win. And I think, and maybe it's just, The NFL as a whole, I think, is going from a more. It's the Deshawn effect, too.

It's, yeah, I think there's confidence in Deshawn. I think it's a factor of the NFL and the analytics and metrics are getting caught on. People are catching on with that pretty much everywhere. Like, remember a couple of years ago, or not even a couple of years ago, it had to be probably a decade ago at this point. Remember when the Patriots were on the road, the Colts, they had a fourth and two on their own side of the field. It was like at the 30. If they get it, they would have won the game. They went for it.

they didn't get it. Then the Colts went on the score and win the game. And that was like the hugest controversy. It set the NFL back five years. It set the NFL on fire when it came to going a fourth and two. And Bill Belichick said, hey, we thought we were going to go win the game. And that's what we did. Like, if that happened in a random NFL game this week, I don't think we would be talking about it,

but I don't think it would get a tenth of the coverage that it got back then. We'd be talking about it because I don't remember the yard line specifically. I remember it was like the 25 or the 30 somewhere in there. I mean, it was still a highly risky move. I still wouldn't do that with the game on the line. But you're right. It wouldn't, it wouldn't get discussed nearly. I mean, that was a, and I want to say.

They were at their own 28. They're at their own 28. I mean, that's pretty damn crazy. Fourth and two. I mean, you had, I saw an NFL game this weekend. I can't even remember the game because I keep it on Red Zoll and flip around. Now, you won't see it with a team that went for it on their own half as well. Early in the game.

That's what I'm saying. You'll still barely. very rarely see it with the game on the line going from your own 28 on, let's say, a fourth and two. What you will see more, much more, are teams going it, going for it, let's say, fourth and five from their 35 in the first quarter, in the second quarter, early in the third quarter. You know, when there's still enough time to be able to make that up, or if you don't make it and the team scores, you still have far enough clock time to be able to get that game back. I still think that was a crazy call.

And you might, I don't have the numbers in front of me. I want to say that year, that was the year that the Colts ended up winning it with Peyton. It was 2009. They went it with Peyton in 2006. 2009 champion. They went to the Super Bowl. They went to the Saints. Yep.

Yeah, they lost to the Saints that year. So, yeah, that was interesting stuff. 10 years ago. The reason that he did that was because they knew that, he knew that wherever the Colts got the ball, they were going to score. Yeah. So because their defense, I think their defense wasn't that great that year. That was just when the Colts, I mean, and Peyton Manning in his absolute prime. Yeah.

So. Reggie Wayne, all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. that's basically you don't you don't you that's not it's more common this is so great um the national headline on ESPN bad air colon Jerry Jones cut off after radio curses this is like this is a national story this is the number one story it is it is it it deserves to be your damn act together he's an he's and he's not just the owner he's the owner and the GM and whatever the president and I mean he's he's he's it he runs that entire patience

to jack with you today Man. I wonder what Steve... The stations program director confirmed the disconnect saying Jones did not hang up. So they dropped him. They dropped Jerry Jones. Wow. I mean, it is station policy. I can say at least up here. If we have to dump somebody, we're supposed to cut you off. Now, if you're the owner of a local sports franchise billion worth billions, maybe exceptions can be made, but for the most part, we cut people off.

And see, this is why... And we disagreed about this. He's crazy. So he told the radio station this. They were asked about firing Garrett. Jerry said, quote, you've got to remember that when you quit on your coach, then you quit on yourself because we're all a part of this. What? That doesn't even make sense.

So he's basically acknowledging that the team has quit on the coach, but because he's paying Garrett or they started the season together, you've got to finish it together. Nobody thinks like that. Except Jerry Jones. And Ross, when he's discussing the company. It seems like he, well, he's admitting to making a mistake if he fires him, right? And he doesn't want to admit to a mistake. I mean, that's, that's what, that's it. That's why he's afraid.

People make bad hire. He's stuck by him this long. He wants him to dig his way out of it. I've seen people make bad hires in this business. And they. In this building? Is that what you're saying? No.

No. Oh, really? No. Not in this building? Every hire in this building has been fantastic. No. nothing, but I've seen bad hires be made in any business, and you are reluctant to go back on your decision.

Yeah. Because it's like, it's your baby. Like, Jason Garrett is like Jerry Jones's baby. It's a little baby. It's my, like there's a little baby. You know who the biggest Cowboys homer in the entire world is? It's Jerry Jones. So, I mean, he's got blind faith in basically everything Cowboys including himself.

And there's clearly nobody in that organization that can pull him aside, shut the door and say, Jerry, I'm talking right now. You have to hear me on this. He's a stubborn old man who is refusing to admit his mistake. He's in a rocking chair on the porch, on his ranch, with a shotgun in his lap. I don't have the patience to jack with you. You step one step further. Get off my lawn.

That's what it is. All right, quick break here in the Matt Thomas show. Antonio Brown is back in the news. This from ATX Hobo Girl. He's putting out, now he's putting out statements. Poor guy. We'll read the latest from Antonio Brown next. This is Carlos Correa.

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Matt Thomas Show, rolling along here. Sports Talk 790. Matt Thomas is out. As he has been out the last couple of days, he'll be back on Monday. This is the Matt Thomas. show resumes in full. We'll be reacting to the Denver Broncos and the Texans game. Hopefully just a comfortable win, nothing to worry about. And we can just maybe spend like two segments on it as the Texans just take care of business and beat the Denver Broncos like 35 to 7 when

they score seven points at the end as, I don't know, Drew Locke runs one in against the third strings of all the Houston Texans. But we'll get to that when it happens. In the meantime, you have Brian Smith, you have me, Rosvier, Real, you have Nick Lowe. You want to get in 713, 2, 125 at 790, 713-1-2-125-790. So I was looking at my tweets at SportsRV. You can also tweet Brian at Crom-Bryan-Smith. Apparently, Mr. Antonio Brown is continuing to put out statements. This is the guy, like, the quickest fall from grace, for somebody with the magnitude of talent that he has, is just, I don't know if we've seen anything like it in the NFL.

So it's kind of a really long statement. I'm not going to read all of it, but you just got to put some music behind it because. Not today. Yeah, he put this on Instagram. Here's a little bit from Antonio. I don't know if he knows that everyone's moved on from him. I don't think he does. Everybody in the world has moved on from Antonio Brown, except for Antonio Brown. First and foremost, I'd like to apologize to my family, friends, and anyone who I offended.

I never once meant to make anyone feel like I wasn't thankful and appreciative of the opportunity that I was afforded to play the game I love. I've worked hard over the years to earn a chance to compete in the greatest game on earth. Over the years I was met with challenges And I can honestly say I didn't handle those challenges in the manner that I should have Over the past few weeks I've had the opportunity to think about everything that's transpired Did he write this? And I am Zero

He did not write this And I've had the opportunity to think about everything that's transpired Do you think Antonio Brown? We've seen his text messages I've had the opportunity to think about everything that has transpired I'm deeply sorry to all who I've offended All my behavior was inexcusable Sometimes when people are coming at you with false information and allegations we handle ourselves

in ways that we sometimes regret. To the organizations that I offended, I offer my sincere apology to you. My hope is that you forgive me and help me move on from this minor setback. I look forward to competing and helping a team reach their goals.

Oh my gosh. He probably paid someone $2 million for a question. Actually, he might not have that anymore. If you had seen some of the text messages that he had sent his trainer, Or that other girl. Let's just say, I don't know what the academic requirements are.

Where do you go, Central Michigan or Central something or other? I think Michigan, yeah. Yeah. Wherever he went to school. Then he went back to school after he got caught by the Patriots. He went back to school. He went back to school. I don't even know what he was doing.

Yeah, Central Michigan. There's a zero percent chance Antonio Brown wrote that statement. Do you understand, boo-d-uh. I understand it. And I understand that Antonio Brown. Oh, that makes me laugh. It's just, man. You know, it's funny because we would always say in the NFL,

no matter what you do, if the talent level is there, you can find a job. I mean, we've seen it with Kareem Hunt. We saw it with, I mean, did Greg, did Greg Hardy ever get a second chance? Maybe not. But we've seen it with the other guys. I mean, Dante Stallworth, if you want to go back and Leonard Little and all those type of stuff. Like guys getting second chances. because the talent was there.

Antonio Brown, for all that we could tell, the talent is there, but he just has to be so crazy. Well, he burned like a thousand chances. And he, I mean, old news in a lot of ways, but I mean, he did it on Hard Knocks. He did it on national TV that how, I don't even get me started. I'm so glad we're past that. That took over the sports world for a month. The helmet deal and his feet.

Burning his feet off. Get your damn act together. Get your damn act together. You know what? Antonio Brown, Dallas Cowboy. that actually, hey, that's what, you want to save that season? Is any team for you to just sign him for whatever, or is he subject to getting possible suspensions by the league?

No one's going to touch him until the NFL makes its ruling and it still doesn't make us ruling. Yeah, because he's had, I mean, the- And if the NFL's smart, which sometimes it is, sometimes it's not, but I believe this time it will be, you've got four games left in the regular season. Why would you rule right now? I don't have the patience to jack with you today. It's just Jerry Jones talking to.

We can ever just run that the whole show. Oh, we're going to be running this the whole rest of our lives. What are you talking about? Oh, man. Just beautiful from Jerry Jones there. But, yeah, I just don't remember somebody, just the fall from grace as quickly as it happened for Antonia Brown. Unless we're talking about, I don't know, like an O.J. Simpson type of situation. This has just been.

Yeah, and Adam Clanton's favorite person in the world wasn't playing. You know, he was retired and had been out of the game for a long time. It was a horrible entertainment. One of the female WWE wrestlers? Yeah, I don't think there's anything comparable and recent.

Nothing in Major League Baseball, nothing in the NBA. Who's Adam's favorite person in the world? O.J. Simpson. Oh, J. Simpson. I wish I loved something as much as Adam Clinton loves

and fighting with three people on Twitter. Digging on information about OJ Simpson. That's true. And fighting with people on Twitter. Sometimes I'll have to go through, I'll like look back through Adam's old tweets because I, you know, I'm just looking for something funny.

And I'll have to scroll through like 50 tweets he has at people where he's fighting with people was like, oh, Clanton. Adam Clanton loves to get salty with the folks on Twitter, and I think he takes certain pride. I'm getting blocked by certain folks as well. 7-1-3-1-25-79. The phone number 7-1-3-2-1-2-5-7-90.

It is anything goes Friday. So I think we got anything goes Friday-related call here from Jeff. What do you got? What do you got, Jeff? Let me ask you. Why the hell don't we open stadium, open up by a stadium at least four, five, six, seven games. You know, it's been proven that open-air stadiums are technically louder than closed-up stadiums.

And I'm just trying to figure out why we don't do that. We do need the 40,000 people that are there kickoff to be louder. Yeah, it's a very valid question. I'll tell you right now, and this is a fact. I wish the NFL would force these closed stadiums and say, look, you have to be open at least six games out of the 16th season games, you pick them. Bill O'Brien runs a Texans,

and the Texans believe that they have more of a home field advantage with the roof closed, and they've actually had a pretty damn good home record the last couple years. So until some part of that changes, the roof's not opening. Well, that was a lot of wasted taxpayers' money, then.

Yes, it was. Channel 2 will investigate. gate. Thanks, Jeff. I don't know if you, Matt got all upset about that because there was, you were at the game. So, yeah, so Channel 2 was just running this sensational teaser about how they're getting to the bottom and Channel 2 investigates, what's going on with the roof

at Energy Stadium? And then they're going to have this like salacious report. And then they basically went to it and they just asked fans what they thought. And that was it? That was almost the entire report. And like they said they called. And it was the same night as they beat the Patriots. Nobody wants to watch that bleep. Yeah, well, that's what you do. That's how the local news gets you roped in, right?

They go after. Not me, man. Not me. Well, not me either, because I didn't watch it. But that's the only time I ever watch local news is after Thursday night football on Fox or after Sunday night football on NBC. That's pretty much it. Sorry, Adam Wexler. Well, Bill O'Brien was actually asked when the next time, you know, he was thinking about opening NRG and this is what he had to say?

I mean, no. Yeah, it's not going to be open, is it, is it Bill O'Brien? That's just, I mean, I guess that's just something like, that's one of the old things we'll always talk about with the Texans is why don't they open up the roof? And you remember, well, this was before. I will say, it's a much better looking stadium when the roof is open. And it's kind of, it's like Jerry World. It's kind of cool when it opens because it's not the whole way. I do feel like most people that complain actually aren't going to the games.

you know, they're watching on TV, so I'm not really sure. You have the taxpayer thing, but has anyone pulled out a receipt to show how much they had to pay for the energy stadium roof? I'm not saying they haven't. I just haven't seen it. I really don't know how much it matters in a game in, game out basis anyway. It's just become a thing that people love to complain about. Yeah. It has.

It's like we like to complain about traffic, Houston weather, and whether or not the NRG roof is going to be open. And that's just the stance I've taken the last few years. I'm not saying that anyone's wrong. It should be open. It should be open in September. It should, do you know how amazing the weather is right now? Like, it's a beautiful day. It's early, it's Friday, December 6th.

So in two days, the weather is going to be amazing. And that thing will be closed. I mean, no. Yeah. And Stroh's relegation tweeting in. They also interviewed Ed Emmett. And Ed Emmett was like, I don't know why it's closed. So, I mean, they just basically.

But Ed doesn't have a job anymore. Yeah, right. I love Ed, but he doesn't have a... Basically didn't get to the bottom of anything. So, great job. Thanks, channel too. Appreciate it. Make sure you tune in.

It'll be open the next time that King O. wants it open. That's all it comes out to. So it'll be never. It's a long season. I mean, what's wrong with a little 72 degree football with the roof closed? It's so much better in there when it's open. Yeah. I guess. It is.

But what's it different? I mean, it feels more like, it just feels more like football. But that's the thing. They don't, like Bill O'Brien doesn't care. All he wants to do is win the game. And so if he believes, he's running the show man. If he believes that the crowd's better, the team's better, they have a home, over home,

advantage, the players get more, whatever it is. He's not going to screw that. So the funny part to me is anyone who's like complaining, like, okay, you go not going to, you know, you go tell them to open it up. See how that goes. Doesn't matter, Brian. And so Jones tweeting in, the indie game was empty till the second quarter. They piped in crowd noise.

It was really loud. She's a day one season ticket holder. She'll die on this hill. Last game was perfect weather. So day one season ticket holder wants the roof open. I fully agree, people. It should be open. It should be open on Sunday.

That's funny. The thing should be open, but I cannot open it. And it used to be open a little more under Kubiak occasionally. It ain't opening. Yeah. How do we even know that? It is what it is, as they say. All right, take a quick break here on the Matt Thomas show.

Manuel's on the phone. He wants to talk about the Rockets. We haven't talked much about that. Yeah, we need to get into that. That big win over the Toronto Raptors. We'll get to it next. Trill O.G. with the whitest man in America. Matt Thomas. You are now tuned in in the Sports Talk 790, man. On your march, sit ready to go. Westbrook, just couple of steps beyond mid-court. Van Bleepeak backs up.

Down to a minute. Shot clock at seven. Westbrook to the lane, double pumped, and he'll land in for two. Huge bad rockets are up by eight. I believe that's also what he flexed. on Mark Gassau. When he went to the lane, I mean, he just bullied his way into the lane, Russell Westbrook there, and got the bucket as the Rockets get the big-time 119, big-time relative to where they are right now. Of course, coming off previous loss, a bad loss against the Spurs a couple of nights ago. So winning last night, 119 over the Toronto Raptors.

A good win for the Rockets. Welcome back to the Matt Thomas Show here on Sports Talk 790. Ross Vera Real, Brian Smith with you folks at 713, 2,1, 2, 1, 2, 5, 790. So a nice way to bounce back there, Brian. You had James Harden, the lowest usage that he's had all season. He was not only getting double-teamed as soon as he crossed the half-court line. Like, any time he touched the ball, Toronto Raptors were doubling him, and the other guys had to make their shots.

Some of them stepped up and obliged, especially PJ Tucker, 5 and 10 from 3. Ben McLemore, 8 of 17 from 3 in a career high, 28 points from him. after people wanting him benched all season long because he had been shooting poorly. So a breakout night for McLemore, James Harden was quiet. Russell Westbrook was yet again not efficient from the field, but did just enough.

What did Westbrook shoot? 7 of 27. 06 from 3. Buddy, 19 points, 13 rebounds, 5 offensive, 11 assist, two steals, 8 turnovers, plus minus of 7 and 35 minutes. And they won.

It's crazy rough. They won. That's a crazy Russ stat line. 19 points, 13 rebounds, 11 assists, 8 turnover, 7 to 27 from the field. That's crazy Russ. Like nothing about that stat line really makes sense. But his team won by 10,

on the road against a good Toronto team. It's very West Brookian, that stat line. You got the win. 14 to 7. 13, 23, 1, 2, 1,257. Let's talk to Manuel about it. What's up, Manuel?

Yeah, what do you got? Hey, hey, hi. Yeah, I just wanted to talk about the rockets. that was probably the most complete team win I have seen in probably a couple of years. Oh, that's strong. That's a crazy night by Hardin. Yeah, I mean, like overall, the whole team stepped up as a team,

rebounding. They made 22-3s. I think that's probably one of the best shooting nights overall that had since the beginning of this season. I know it's early in the season, but that was a very good win on the road because that was only the Raptor's second loss at home. this season. They don't lose that up there

up in the north. They don't really lose. It was a great game. And McIntymore coming up and hitting threes, that was awesome. He's been struggling, so that was a very good pick me up. I loved that. The whole game was just awesome. I loved watching it. Great. Thanks for the call.

All right. I appreciate you getting. He was very enthusiastic about that, one of the Raptors. I was, I mean, I wouldn't say I was shocked, but the Rockets came into the game underdogs. And, you know, the Toronto Raptors aren't, they don't have Kwai Leonard, but they got a lot of really good pieces. Yeah, and the Rockets, I think most importantly,

it had been coming off that very, very, very tough. Still under protest. Yes. Road defeat, double overtime to the Spurs. So, you know, smart NBA person probably doesn't pick the rockets in that game. And they won by 10, and they won on the road. And it was a very nice win.

Maclemore was fantastic. Austin Rivers continues to help this team off the bench. Yeah, Westbrook did not shoot well at all. Capella only had six points. He had 13 rebounds. PJ Tucker stepped up. it's a nice team win. Those are the things that are going to happen.

I mean, what's really going to help this this James Harden doubling defense, not only does James Harden have to get acclimated to it, the whole teammates have to be. Everybody has to be on their toes. Ben McLemore or PJ Tucker or whoever he's passing it off to, they're going to have to be ready to make decisions four on three and make the right decision, make good passes,

not turn the ball over like Clint Capella has done in a number of instances. And then you're just going to get wide open threes and then let the shots fall where they may. You're going to get open looks four on three. And just wait till Eric Gordon comes back because that should, I think, do two things. Number one, the most obvious, it's going to give them an extra

all-star caliber shooter. You're not going to be able to double James Hardin that much, if at all, when Eric Gordon comes back, because you will have Eric Gordon and Russell Westbrook and James Hardin and PJ Tucker and Clint Capella on the floor. And then all of a sudden, if you're doubling somebody, then you're basically dealing with the Warriors' offense during the golden years for Golden State.

So last night, Maclemore was a story last night. 9 of 18 from the field, 8 of 17. Ben McLemore took 17 3-pointers last night. That in itself is freaking amazing, and he made eight of them. So kudos to him. And I said this yesterday, Ross, as tough as that Spurs defeat was. You look at the rest of their schedule. And the Phoenix game, that'll be interesting.

The Sacramento game, interesting. But then they're at Cleveland. They're at Orlando. They play Detroit. They have a rematch against San Antonio. a couple of tough games at LA at Phoenix at Sacramento. They're beating Golden State. They should beat the nets.

They should beat the horrible pelicans. The Rockets should be able to be, and I'm guesstimating this right here. I haven't counted up the games. It looks like 12 games. So 22 and 9 coming out of December, and I need to count up the games. But they should be in a strong spot entering the new year.

Yeah, they're on about probably like 54, 55 win pace somewhere in that neighborhood. So you continue to do that. You just continue to flex your muscles and they can out talent people, like I've been saying, just because of who they are, just because of the talent that they do have, and especially when they get fully healthy with Eric Gordon. And if it's to the point that teams are going to start doubling James Harden with Eric Gordon out, the rocket's going to win those games.

You can't double. This isn't college. This isn't high school. This isn't the NFL with DeAndre. You can't double somebody in the NBA. B.A. consistently and win that game. I just don't think that's possible. I mean, yeah, teams have been doing it, and it's been with some level of success. But I think, like I said, because of this is something we haven't seen before,

the Rockets' teammates have to get used to it. And I think they will. I think they'll get, James will get better at playing against it. And I think the entire team as a whole will get better at playing it. The more you see it, the more they'll be cracking in there. You know, I mean, for as as, as tough as that Spurs game was, and they lost by two, and they should have won that game. Obviously, they've won three or four. You know, they beat a good Miami team. They beat the hell out of Atlanta who sucks. And they beat a good Toronto team on the road.

They won three or four. Yeah, you beat anybody by, well, you got up by 58. What was the final? 158 to 111. You win by 47. And you get up at some point by 58 in that game. Yeah, and I just counted up by my math. I was close.

13 games before the new year. So the rockets are going, I'll be nice. Nine and four. They're 23 and 11, you know, coming, you know, Coming out of the first third of the season, they're in a strong spot. That'd be pretty good, but you're wondering, I mean, that's not going to be enough to catch the Lakers. And then where does that put you relative to the Nuggets, Clippers, and the Dallas Mavericks? Breaking news, the Western Conference, like always, is stacked at the top.

You know, it's stacked at the top, and I'm not doing contrary anything here. It's stacked at the top, but I've been noticing this lately. Look at six through eight. And that's not that great. Utah will get better. Minnesota's 10 and 10. Phoenix is number 11, which blows my mind, but they're 10 and 11. And they've been on a slide. They've lost seven of the last 10. The West is stacked at the top, but I'm being optimistic about the rockets here. I just, the Lakers, I still believe, will hit a spot, whether it's via injury, reality, load management, whatever it is. The Lakers are going to spot where they come back down to Earth. We're 22 games for them and to

82 game season. Denver's good. The clippers I still think are the best team. Are the Mavericks better than the Rockets? I don't believe so. Not over 82 games. Not if, not if, you know, you get Eric Gordon back and Hardin and Westbrook stay healthy. So I still believe the Houston Rockets will find it. They'll end up as a second or third best team in the West and then we'll reach the truth. Then the chips will fall where they may. All right. We got to take a break here. Don't jack around with me, Ross. I'm not going to jack around with you that much. All right. Two hours in the books. One hour to go. A Friday

anything goes Friday edition of the Matt Thomas show here on Sports Talk 790. 713-1-2-1-2-5-790. 7-1-3-1-2-5-7-90. Keep it here for the final hour. Is the Matt Thomas show. Of the Matt Thomas show of the week and anything goes Friday

here on Sports Talk 790. No Matt Thomas though. He is continuing to travel about the country internationally, domestically, it doesn't matter. Wherever he sets down his feet, he is still fancy Matt. His heavily pampered feet. Heavily pampered. He had even want to know what goes on with that guy. I mean, Matt wears like Jesus sandals too, so that's a whole other thing.

That's true. Crocs. He has slippers from the Ritz Carlton that he steals, all that type of stuff. Are we going to play any games? You know, the Matt Thomas show always plays games. And when I fill in, I don't get to play any games. Well, hold on. I was going to do Will Brian No, but you complain about it last time. So I didn't really put it together.

I can try to put one together for the other. I'm going out on a high note with that. I've won that twice, and that's the last time I'll play it. But like, believe it or not, you guys play all these fun, silly game show games. Yeah, I normally have to write those questions while I'm just blankly staring at Matt and not paying attention to what he says. Now I've got to do a little more work when Matt goes out. So, you know, if you want to write the questions. Hmm, not really.

See, exactly. Maybe we should make Nick do it. Nick, do you want to do it, believe it or not today? Believe it. That sounds like a no. Not. Well, that's unfortunate. 713, 212, 5790.

713, 1-2-1-2-5-7-90. We're talking a lot about the Rockets. The last couple of segments. We also have to get to an interesting conspiracy theory on the Texans, but let's go ahead and get to the phone lines. Kevin want to talk some rockets. What's up, Kevin? How are you guys doing, enjoying the show?

Let me say, This is my first time as a rocket fan that I don't have a lot of confidence in Murray going forward. I know a lot of people harp on Mike Dantoni, and I have my quotes about him as coach. But I think this style of play is just based around analytics. If you watch Dantone with the exception of the three ball, when he was in Phoenix, there was a lot of ball movement, a lot of body movement, of course, with James being on the team, a lot of what they do to maximize his talent is based around here.

But I think going forward, especially in the playoffs, NBA is a long season, guys. It's hard to defend the Rockies in a one-game setting. But in playoffs in the seven games, I think they're the most predictable and easy team to defend. They lack a big four on this team, of course, in today's NBA you need shooting. They're like a four on

these teams. The small ball putting Tucker at the four and you know, that's not going to work especially when you go up against people like Anthony Davis and even some of the other teams that can go bigger. It puts a lot of pressure

on compelling. And then think about these guys, I'm going to end it with this. They're not consistent defensively. You have three average defenders. Think about this, guys. You have three average defenders on the floor with their starting fire. Westbrook, Hardin, House. And then you have three solid above defenders in Capella and Tucker.

I don't think, I think going forward, man, even how they're playing Russell Westbrook, of course, he's not efficient in how he goes about in today's NBA. But, man, he's a great cutter to the basket. You never see him cut. two in okay c he did a lot of posting up you don't see him post up a lot of course i think that goes against the theories of how the rocky wants to play but those are my thoughts guys i will hang up and continue to listen to the show great show as always thanks again guys thank you kevin appreciate thanks for sharing your thoughts um i didn't agree with all of them but but he's entitled to his

opinion i mean look it was funny though he's he's put a lot of it on he started by saying he's putting on a Mori and then it sounded more like coaching complaints but well you could put it spin it however you want the Rockets they have the ability in my opinion to be like a fringe

top 10 defense they're 15th right now in defensive rating they started out 29th they were horrible there but I mean if if you're telling me I mean one of the biggest things you have to do as far as being a good defensive player even a team defensive player maybe you're not good

lockdown guy individually one and one, but you have to be focused. You have to be communicating with your teammates. And that's what the Rockets need to do. There's no reason why Russell Westbrook, as athletic as he is, shouldn't be one of the better perimeter defenders in the NBA. He said this year that he wants to make the all-NBA defensive team. Well, I don't think that that's in the cards right now, but I can't say that I've seen with my eyes that he's been any kind of lockdown guy, but you have the talent there.

And we know that James Hardin. James Hardin's defense was strong. James Hardin was strong. A defense was strong last night. And he's never going to be a guy who's going to lock somebody down on the perimeter. I just don't think he has the lateral quickness. Like people can cross up dribble James Hardin on the perimeter. It is what it is. Especially when he gets switched up against, you know, the Damien Lillards and the Steph Currys and guys like that.

He can do very well in the post. Hardin's dropping, you know, 40 a night. So, look, Hardin is not on the Rockets to be the primary, you know, perimeter defender. He's on the rockets to drop 40 a night. Right. I mean, PJ Tucker's in there to be to play defense. Clint Capel is in there to play defense. Daniel Hous Jr. is also in there. And the caller missed that Eric Gordon is a solid, if not at times, very good defender.

And Eric Gordon's not on the team right now. Eric Gordon against Donovan Mitchell in that playoff series last year. I mean, Eric Gordon clearly won that match up. The Rockets defense every year under Dan Tony. This isn't a Dan Tony knock. This is just reality. The Rockets defense every year has been. a work in progress.

And it usually gets better as a season goes on and starts to peak around the playoffs. So we'll see. They changed out. They swapped out, but Zellick for Elston Turner. That's, that again makes it a work in progress.

But they're missing one of their, their top four defenders right now, and Eric Gordon as well. Yeah. I mean, they did have a really good defense the year. They won 65 games. Yes, and they had Chris Paul in that team. And Chris is a better, I mean, more reliable defender than Russell Westbrook. I mean, that's just a fact.

It is what it is. I wish it weren't like that because, I mean, if you look at athletic ability, Russell Westbrook, he could lock your ass down. Especially much more than that. So I would like to see some better effort from him there or at least some more efficiency on the offensive side. Can we get something? I don't know.

He had 13 rebounds and 11 assists last night. Eight turnovers. Tide for the team high. Let's see. Tide for the game high. Wow, that's interesting, and rebounds last night. And the game high and assists last night. Game high and turnover, so well.

Ross. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, 7-1-3-21, 25, 790. Anything goes Friday on the Matt Thomas show? We have a lot of calls. We got a John, John in Spring. Want to talk about Jerry Jones we've been talking about on this show. What's up, John? Hey, guys, how are you today?

Great, how are you? I'm good. Listen on the Jerry Jones thing, and I'm sure I'm not the first one that has, thought about this. I spent a lot of time around people in the neurological field. And, you know, Mr. Jones is showing some things that, I guess, could be construed or identified as symptomatic of perhaps some neurological early onset stuff. and particularly in terms of personality changes, and whether you want to call it dementia or early onset Alzheimer's.

But, you know, he's always been a caustic figure in a lot of ways, personality-wise. But I'm just wondering if, and I hope this is not the case, but I'm just wondering if Jerry is starting to experience some of those. types of issues. I don't have the patience to jack with you today. Get your damn act together. All right, John, thanks a lot. Appreciate you waiting. Thanks for the call.

Appreciate it. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a doctor. Do you understand, boo-hs? I mean, he's, it seems like he's becoming, I mean, a little more increasingly in his. Yes, that as well.

I'll be honest. I don't know if it's ever going to work. I am a monkey son. If it's ever going to work, work there, as long as he's, I'm not the first one that says this, because if you are Lincoln Riley, if you're Urban Meyer, if you're the next, you know, if you're the current great coordinator who's going to be a head coach favorite, yeah, you want to coach the Cowboys and Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott and Amari Cooper and granted, they have some contract situations, but the talent is there.

The fan base is there. The stadium is there. The market is there. everything is there and do you want to deal with JIT? No. I mean, you're going to be lured in because it's the Cowboys and if you're Urban Meyer

could you imagine, by the way, could you imagine Urban Meyer being the coach of the Dallas Cowboys because that is now a rumor? Mr. I retire every three years. I have, you know, every time something goes bad I have panic attacks supposedly, even though it always gets them out of a tough situation.

Come back to the Longhorns. Come to the Longhorns. Be sure and come out. and visit my monkeys. Thanks, Jerry. All right, maybe he is an inch. All right, time for a break here. On the Matt Thomas show, we see you guys on hold.

We'll get to you next. Want to talk some Rockets basketball. 713, 2, 1, 2, 125, 790. 77, 1, 3, 1, 2, 5, 790. And also the Texans' Roof conspiracy theory. We still have to get to that coming up. Right, half the workday is done. Celebrate with Matt.

Hey, Matt, love your show. What was I talking about? By the sound of it, some of you started the party at breakfast. Matt Thomas on Sports Talk 790. 217. 17 at the p.m. Sports Talk 790. Matt Thomas Show. Without Matt Thomas continues to be traveling. He'll be back on Monday. It isn't anything goes Friday here on the show, though, with me, Ross v. Ria Rial. And Brian Smith and Nick Lowe at 713, 2125-790.

713, 2-1-25-790. So we talked about, Brian, the inefficiency of 11 of 38 from Hardin against the Spurs, and then 7 of 30, I think it was, from Russell Westbrook against the Spurs as well. And at the end of the day, he went 7 of 27 last night. So 7 of 27 is an improvement on 7 and 30. So you have to say, even though he didn't make a three-pointer because he went 0.6. from three. It is a three-shot improvement as far as efficiency and shooting from the field. Ross.

What? Come on. What do you do that, man? What? He's getting better. I think he's getting better every week, as Bill O'Brien would say. Hey, you know what? Next time, he'll go 7 to 24.

If you want to start going to war, Russell Westbrook, have at it. I'm not going to have fun with him. No, I'm not going to war with anybody. You're trying to make fun of him on the air. I'm not making fun of anybody. I said 7 of 27 is better than 7 to 30. That's a fact. Try to dispute that one, Brian.

It will be a season-long issue to watch. Something to keep an eye on. Sucky, sucky, sucky. Especially come playoff time. Thanks, Matt. You know what, yeah, we haven't got enough Matt drops. Just hit us with a bunch of random Matt Thomas drops. We haven't done that, basically.

When he's gone, that's my favorite thing to do is just have Matt react to basically everything. Just go ahead. Swallowing a lot. Oh, geez. Oh, man. What do you think about the Texans this weekend? They're not going to win. Oh, well, that's not good.

Oh, here's one that he said about Greg Cook back in the day. Stand up, turn around, so I can take a picture of your ass. Oh, Matt. Matt, what is your dating advice? You worry about the birth control later. Okay. Well, that's interesting. What do you think?

Matt Thomas out of context should be its own radio show. This package can't be that big. Hmm. Okay. Man, I'm a little thirsty. What do you think? I haven't had his squirt in years. It's delicious. Okay. I'm going to have some free time after the show as well. I'm going to have like an hour before I got to get some other stuff. What do you think? If I didn't have anything else going on in the show, I would probably look at Red Tube.

Hmm. Okay. I'm irritated myself. Oh, geez. I forgot about that one. What's the one that we just got recently? She's in a doggy style position. Excuse me? I love that you're like, excuse me? Excuse me?

Oh, give me 11 inches. Hmm. Chase from the South Side, Sports Talk 790. How are you? Hey, what's going on, fellas? How are you doing? I'm well. Great.

How are you? Good, good. I just wanted to chime in on, I think, a couple of callers ago. He was referring. He was talking about Dale Mori and how it could possibly be his, you know, his fault, Not fault, but, you know, he's the GM. So because it seems like a person that isn't a basketball guy, you know, is in charge of the guys shooting a bunch of threes because the rockets aren't built for a nonstop three-point shooting team.

Like they're shooting 40 percent. Everybody, they have a team average of 40 percent, and that's not so. And I think it just has to be a non-basketball guy, quote unquote, that's kind of pushing the envelope to shoot so many threes because it doesn't make sense. basketball-wise when you think of it. It doesn't make sense? I don't think so because if, let's just say, it's a lower percentage shot, you know, so.

Darryl Moore would be going to war with you right now. It's worth more points. I understand that, but let's say you shoot 30, if you shoot 33 and you hit 11, if you shoot 32s and you, and you hit, I'm pretty sure you're going to, you're going to hit 20. You're going to shoot 67. You're going to shoot 67% from twos?

There's not a team on the planet that does that. Okay, hold on. Let me ask you this question, Chase. So you're bringing up the math, right? 11.30 of 33's and 20 of 32s, which is true. That would be 40 points to 33. Do you think Darryl Morey's done the math on this? I'm pretty sure he does.

That's what I'm saying. He's not a basketball guy. You just trying to give us the math. I would bet that Darry knows more about basketball. then Ross, me, and you combined. Just because he didn't play professionally. Look, I've played with that man on the three-on-three media game. He's got a mean post-up game, okay?

Like, just because he didn't play professionally doesn't mean he's not a basketball guy. That turns like 6-4 with some pretty good old-man game, Chase. I'm just saying as far as what's going on on the court. Because when, like he was saying, the other caller was saying, when Dan Tony had Phoenix, they didn't play like this because they had a Mario. It's out of mine. They didn't play... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

We got to raise the bar here. And this nice guy, I'm sure. Fine call. Everyone's a ton of their opinion. We've had way too many callers the last three days on the Matt Thomas show. So this is not my fault. This is the Matt Thomas' fault. Matt Thomas's fault.

Stop. I mean, like, moratorium. Do not call into Sports Talk 790 and refer to the Dan Tony Phoenix Suns. That was so long ago. It has not, like Mike Don't know any, it has nothing to do

with the Houston Rockets and James Harden and Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook and Toulman for Tita. Nothing to do. Nothing. And we've had two or three calls today refer to what Dan Tony did with the Suns and have you even watched

the Rockets the last four years? My God. It's a different team from them. I mean, that was like, I mean, especially the threes and the isolation. The entire league is different, man. The entire league is different. That team was run by Steve Nash. Hey, Steve Nash could at least make his three.

I like Steve Nash quite a bit as a point guard. It was an entirely different era. Dan Tony's been with the Lakers and the Knicks and now the Rockets. He's in the final year of his contract with the Rockets. You just, there's no comparison to make. Yeah, I mean, criticism of, I mean, of the Rockets and Dan Tony Mori, if you want to do that. That's fine. That's definitely fine.

I mean, especially you want to talk about the Russell Westbrook trade. We don't know what's going to happen with that. Other stuff. But philosophically, you know that Darrell Mori's office is working because other teams are doing. I mean, the Toronto Raptors are a team that take a bunch of threes. The Brooklyn Nets are a team who have started taking a bunch of more threes. The Minnesota Timberwolves this year are taking threes like crazy. Teams are figuring out.

This is the best way to run out. Respect to the caller. The caller made some solid points. I just don't feel like, let me try to help this. And this really quick. Stats, like actual information that the Rockets use and are widely available on the internet, which is free for the most part. You're at a library.

The Rockets lead the NBA in three points attempted per game. And it's an incredible amount. And the caller was kind of getting at this, 46%. Okay. Now the Rockets personnel this year, this is Ross. you have talked about those last couple days. And this is an issue. The Rockets lead the NBA and three-pointers attempted.

Number two is Dallas. Number three is Milwaukee. Dallas is good this year. Milwaukee's one of the best teams. Toronto's seventh. And then it's a bit of a mix. The Lakers are actually 26th. Okay?

So taking the most reasons, guarantee anything. The Rockets take the most reasons of the NBA. This is interesting, though. This goes into Westbrook and the personnel and some of the calls that we've had. And the callers are on to some of the calls that we've had. And the callers are on to some.

something here. This is astonishing to me. The Rockets right now ranked 25th in the NBA and 3-point percentage. So they're taking the most, but they're 25 out of 30 teams and makes, which is not a great percentage. What's that percentage if you take Russell Westbrook? Well, I was going to say part of that percentage is Russell Westbrook. So they're 14 and 7. Long way to go. I think they're going to get a bump from their upcoming schedule, but

we said the last two days. I agree with the callers in this part. They're very much on to this. The personnel, Eric Gordon coming back, will help this. But that's going to be a season-long question for this team. They still shoot more threes than anybody, and they're not hitting as many as they used to. Hold on. I'm trying to do the math real quick here. I'm trying to figure out how many.

All right, let's see. Russell Westbrook's taken 102-3s. So you would be down to 870. Oh, we're doing live math on the rate. You talk. You talk. I'm doing this. No, I kind of like the dead space.

It's great. Yeah, I'm just filling in. You're the real co-host here. Now, don't put things in my mouth here. It'd be 30. Without much I love polls, right? Without Russ, it'd be 35.8%. Where would that put them?

That would put, oh, that gets them up to 16th with the New York Knicks. There we go. 16th. Now, it's still a decently small. So the point is, stop shooting so many. Adam said that yesterday. You're bringing down the entire team's house. He said that yesterday.

The thing is, Russ has. to take threes because in that offense, you're going to, when you're doubling James Harding, they're going to be open shots just passed around and to keep the defense honest, to maximize your attempts. This was the whole idea.

This is what the caller missed. And you said this, Ross. I mean, like, breaking news, the reason that the Rockets and the old great warriors and all these NBA teams take 10 times more threes and before is because they're worth more points. So you don't have to make as many. And you end up getting more points out of it.

Darrell Mori cracked the code. He figured out. Three is more than two. He broke the code, man. But they are. They're 25th in the NBA and three-point percentage, and that is concerning. Yeah, definitely. You need better shooting from Ben McLemore, from certainly Russell Westbrook.

Eric Gordon, when he comes back, I think he started off poorly. I don't know what his percentages are. So they have to shoot better from three, of course, and that will help them off. But even without that, they have the third best offense. Yeah, and I was going to say, even that's not the magic solution, Because I look at, guess who leads the NBA in three-point percentage? The Detroit Pistons, they suck. The Pelicans are fourth.

Not good. Yeah, but the teams you brought up who are leading and makes. Yes. I mean, takes, taking them. Yes. So there's, it's a combination in there. I think the bucks and mavics are pretty good. The rockets also, free throw percentage.

Do, do, do, do. The rockets are eight. Let's keep the people hanging. The rockets are eighth and free throw percentage. All right. Well, that's good. But guess who's number one? The Warriors.

and they're the worst team in the NBA. So, I mean, it's a combination of a bunch of stats. That's, it's not just three-point shooting. All right, 7-13-1-2-5-79. The phone number 7-1-3-2-125. 7-9. Just two segments left. The Matt Thomas show.

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Matt Thomas. continues. Here on Sports Talk 790 without Matt Thomas. Ross via Brian Smith with you. 713, 212, 570. Your phone number, 7.1, 3,21, 25790. You know, I watched the Irishman last night.

Brian, just because we were talking about it and what did you think, Rossi? I thought it was good. I thought it was interesting. I thought it was well-acted. I thought there were good tense moments. I thought there were certain times where I was like, wow, Scorsese's stuff.

has his fastball. And it was also really long. Yes. And it got slow at the end. And you mentioned like how the last half hour. I mean, it was kind of just like the epilogue. It definitely could have been shorter.

But there was really, I mean, I know it was really long. And I'm not complaining about the link. I sat down and watched the whole thing. There wasn't a time where I was like, this is boring me and I want to turn this off. And I thought the end was very poignant.

Yeah. Yeah. That's what I think. It was just kind of the story of that's what it was. That's what it was trying to be is the demand. demands entire life and all the good times and the fun times and all that type of stuff. All the fun times killing all those people. I mean, they made the point of course of putting, I don't know how much spoilers I'm putting,

but just putting up what happened to certain characters. They would put it up in a graphic. Like most people don't make it out. He made it out and this is, but this is what happens. But there was a price to pay. And this is just basically what happens to all of us. It was very, put an element of humanity, I think, into these characters. Yeah, it was very well done.

sometimes, so whenever I'll see a semi-real-life movie like that, I did it for 4 versus Ferrari. By the way, 4 versus Ferrari, I think it's the best movie the year this far. Oh, really? I haven't seen it. Fantastic. Fantastic. Noted. If you are at all interested, and I actually don't think you have to be interested in race cars. I suck it going to movies. I usually see like two or three a year. Yeah. Fantastic. I think Best Picture of the year this far.

But so if it's based off something in real life at all, and I, like the movie, or I'm intrigued by it, I see it. I'll go read about like what really happened. That's what I do. I'll watch a movie that I'll go read the trivia. So, not to be a downer. Did you read the book that the movie was based on? No, I won't go do that. No, but apparently, from what I read, that the Irishman, the story is not...

It's disputed. It's not believed to be... Heavily disputed. Yeah, heavily would be the keyword there. it's not believed to be very accurate that he killed Hoffa and da da da da da da like he was definitely involved in the mafia and all that stuff but

yeah spoiler what this is wait talking about there's a spoiler there that is a spoiler because no one knows what happened to Hoffa right no you didn't hear that guy sorry Brian shrewd it for you don't do that to me

tweet Brian Jimmy Hoffa was a real person and the movie is about Jimmy Hall for what do you think happens. He disappeared and we don't know what happens to him. I didn't know he was going to be as explicit as well. I thought that he was going to end up underneath Giant Stadium. Me too. He went on a camping trip.

Never came back. The bear shot back. Oh, by the way, speaking of fun stuff, look what's the shown on the jump. The jump on the SPN. What can Rockets do to get Westbrook going? I would hope he would shoot better and have better shots. They just had a graphic showing how off his shot is. I really believed coming into this season.

Because I was like, oh, it's his shoulder injury. He's better to second half. I had convinced myself that he was going to be solid shooting the three-point shot. Kendrick Perkins is breaking it down right now. I was hoping for like 33%. In 2017, he took like five or six more a game and he shot 34%. Like, that's fine. Oh, you can live with 34.

You can live with that. He did that in 17. With him, yeah. But not necessarily the case. All right. Let's go to the phone lines. Jeff in East down. town wanting to talk to Brian.

And gentlemen, Brian, since you're there, this is pre-grunge, but I think you probably know about it. I hope you like the stuff, but it's the replacements, which kind of existed in the early years. Oh, I'm very aware. Yep, yep, yep, yep. What do you think? You want my honest, you want my honest opinion?

They remind me like an American version of the Kings. Yeah, tell me what you think. They are highly influential. I like them. I like Paul Westerberg. I get everything about them. I think they're a little overrated. They're good.

They're good. I think they're a little overrated. I think if you had seen them live at that time, that would have been the replacements. All the recorded stuff, it's very 80s. It's not produced that well. It's all reverbed out. I like the replacements.

I think they're overrated. See? I was honest with you, and I can tell he's probably offended. What do you think of the Kings? I know that's going back a while, but they have a lot in common. Yeah, I like the Kings. Ross, what do you think? I know nothing of either, really.

You guys have a good weekend. Thank you. All right, thank you. Thanks for the call. Hey, I'm honored that he asked me when I thought about the replacements. It's very nice. Is this the replacements? Yeah.

It's a little overreating. This is not for me. Yeah. Maybe they've got some other stuff. But, you know, the people who really, and now you offend people if you say that someone really knows something because then they're like well they only know that genre

or you know it's white privilege or whatever but people who really know their rock swear that replacements are one of the greatest bands ever and they they played a very important role in the development of a lot of music that followed but I still

think they were a little overrated so more influential than they were as makers of good music and they also were known for being a mess like The Beach Boys or something. I think I don't really like their music, but I recognize that they're influential. But so interesting,

but the Beach Boys at least had 20 top, you know, 10 hits or whatever and ripped off Chuck Barry and got sued. Right. Well, and everybody ripped off all that stuff. The Rolling Stones did. On down.

The Beatles did. I mean, the Beatles were initially a cover baby. Oh, don't you speak of the Beatles around the Matt Thomas show. I'm filling. I can say whatever. You don't get recommended.

I always. make sure to take hot shots at the Beatles just to make mad upset. There you go. All right, you're idiot. That's what you're going to get. But the replacements never had any hits. They weren't a hugely popular band. They were kind of a cult band.

Okay. I'll take your word for it. I've talked way too much about the replacement. I thought Shane Falco was great in that movie. I thought, what's his name? Why is the name not coming to be? John Wick and Keanu. Why can I think of his name?

Keanu Reeves. I thought he was great as Shane Falco in the replacements. and maybe they'll use Irishman like CGI because they were talking about doing a Matrix reboot 20 years later and so maybe they'll do that with Keanu Reeves

and they'll just do the CGI to make him look like they did the Irishman bringing the Matrix back has it I guess everyone's forgotten that the first one was interesting and then the next two or whatever the sequels just suck

they got progressively worse two was not that bad in my opinion but then three it just got way too dense and deep into like what is going on here and it's just it wasn't that great of a movie, obviously. And so now they're, I think they were trying to reboot it with the original.

Well, the Wachowski brothers became like Laura and Lanna Wichowski. So now they're just the Wichowski's. Oh. So it's very confusing. This damn groin of his has gotten him in a lot of trouble. Did they change? Yes. I didn't know that.

Wow. I see I always learned something. It was just one. It was one of them. Really? And then it became, the other one made a change as well. I did not know that. Yeah.

The Wachowski's now instead of the Wichowski. Mind is blown. They're no longer the Wachowski brothers. Wow. I don't have the patience to get in the new day. Lanna and Lillie, Wichowski, instead of Andrew and Warren. Jerry Jones would not deal with that very well. No, I don't think he would take a...

Well, on that note, let's take a... You can bring a back together. What do you have to say to the Wachowski's, Jerry? that's not very tolerant of you. All right. We're going to take a quick break on that note before we get ourselves in more trouble. It is the Matt Thomas show without Matt Thomas.

As you can tell, it's an anything goes Friday. We just had anything goes segment. 713-1-21-25-79. Your phone number 7-13-212-5-7-90. Tweets to at SportsRV. At Cron Brian Smith, at Pro-Niclo. Final segment of the Matt Thomas show is next.

Rockets Basketball. Rockets PA announcer and sports talk show host one might get the impression Matt Thomas loves to hear Matt Thomas's voice. Go ahead, Matt, talk for us. There's Lanna and Lily Wachowski. It's the Matrix trilogy on Netflix. I think all three are available on Netflix. So apparently they are going to make another Matrix movie.

I had no clue. It's Keanu. It's going to be Keanu. It's going to be Carrie Ann Moss, and it's going to be Lana Wachowski. I don't know where Lily is. I don't know what Lily's off to. as anything goes Friday. What about a cowboy Larry?

Is he in it? Who's cowboy Larry? Lawrence Fishburg. Oh, yeah, I don't know. Or what was his name, Mr. Smith? The guy is. Morpheus? Yeah, the guy that just...

Mr. Smith, yeah, what's that guy up to? Don't feel like he's been getting a ton of work. You know who's in the Matrix? Nix fans. Hugo weaving? Yeah. David Fisdell has been fired by the New York Knicks. What a shock.

I love that David... I thought you were going to say something else when you started going, what a... No. I would never do that. What a show, a certain type of show. It's amazing that David Fisdale's been fired before Jason Garrett. They had to be two clubhouse favorites, right?

So David Fisdell, Fisdale, unfortunately, you don't have to say take that for data. But he is the latest New York Knicks coach to be fired. Get your damn act together. Remember when Derek Fisher coached the Knicks? 17. Yes. So this is like since. 2014, they'll be on their fifth coach.

There are many things in the world to be thankful for. If you are living in the great city of Houston, here's two things, that your team, teams, are not owned by Jerry Jones or James Dolan. This is their coaches since... James Dolan is the worst owner in sports. Van Gundy left. Don Chaney, Lenny Wilkins, Larry Brown was 23 and 4. 59 there before he got fired.

Remember Isaiah Thomas? And then there were all those lawsuits. Mike DeAnd Tony. We know how that worked out. Derek Fisher, Kurt Rambus, Jeff Hornacek, David Fisdell. Like the Jeff Hornacek era? Why did they hire? And then you had Phil Jackson.

Oh, I skipped over Mike Woodson. He was successful for a little bit there. You had Phil Jackson was running the Knicks for a couple of years. Phil Jackson got ran out of town. Gosh, the Knicks are just the absolute definition of a sports dumpster fire. That is the dumpster fire in pro sports. is there anything close? No. No.

I mean, because that's the thing, though, right? Anytime any other team is on hard times, they have the built-in excuses. We're a small market team. Yeah, you know, the Browns have had serious issues, but I mean, the Browns have won some games and they have Mayfield. Bingles. Yeah. Bingles got to be up there. Yeah, but even the Bingles had a run with Dalton where they were in the playoffs. You know, they were competitive. Nothing like the Knicks the last 10 years.

Gosh. Because everybody in the world knows it's not the coaches. Like, you can take that. Steve Kerr, who doesn't look that great right now, could take that. It doesn't matter. The best coach, Greg Popovich could take that job right now with that team. But with that ownership? Well, I think Greg Popovich's methods are a little archaicicicic right now, but that's just my opinion.

Yes, no, they are. I heard Wexler. Shout out to Wexler. Knockin Popovich, I think yesterday's show or two, and he made some very good points. Yeah, he's a leopard who's not going to change his spots because what he was doing was working.

And it worked a lot better with Hall of Fame talent. But I'm getting this argument with Matt all the time about what sports does head coaching matter the most. Because we were talking about the actual and the possible situation where AJ Hinch was going to get suspended.

To me, I wouldn't think that would be as big of a deal as Jeff Luno getting suspended, we argued about that as well. Because look, I'm not saying that a baseball manager is not important. I'm saying, I mean, once you, their most important job is creating a good clubhouse culture. I mean, for the most part, there are some smart fans who can fill up a lineup, fill all the lineup card. We've got a lefty, lefty match up.

We're going to move this guy down the lineup. So we're going to get this guy some at bats, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, like a lot of that type of stuff is ABC automatic. You don't necessarily need. It's not rocket science. No disrespect to baseball managers. I would go NFL coach. Definitely.

You have to do culture and the game planning. It's more involved than any other way. And then it's hard for me to pick the next NFL coach above and beyond. I feel like the NFL, we're seeing as the Cowboys. He sees with the Patriots. He's with the Texans. You see it across the board. The NFL, your coach has so much of an impact just across the board,

whether it's roster, whether it's play calling, player development, chemistry, in-game, you know, time, just across the board. You can, positive and negative and average. You can make so much of an impact in a great way, an average way, or a horrible way in the NFL. I don't, I would go baseball next. I would go baseball over NBA. Really? By a hair.

Very close. By a hair. Maybe two hairs. And I think it's, I think as a collection with. the, I mean, the assistance and defensive game planning and all that type of stuff in a game to game basis. That's why I would go with the NBA. Yeah, and I see that. And I could go both ways.

I really could. I still feel like, like, remember when Luke Walton coached the Warriors? Lakers or, yeah, the Warriors, yes. And they took over and they were really good. And they were really good. Yeah. And all three of them, talent is the number one most important thing. That's a thing.

So I feel like if the talent, now, if it's a, if the talent's not there, a really good coach could get you five more wins in the NBA you know, 10, you start to change the culture, you get more buy-in, guys sacrifice more, all that stuff. That can happen. But you see a lot in baseball

to where a team will fire a manager, hire the right manager, hire their wrong manager, and that club can take off or fall pretty quickly and turn things around in one season, two seasons. We saw the asteros and AJ Hinch. A lot of that's culture, a lot of that's player talent talent right they also start like bo porter didn't have the guys at a j henchette i think bough quarter could at least won 95 games last year with the a ashore's come on so as long as he

got his double switches right when he was in international league games and didn't screw that up didn't challenge the wrong things or whatever um but i would go i would go NFL and then buy a hair baseball than the NBA okay but it's close well you're on that side i'm on the NBA is a little bit but look at like what monte Williams is doing with phoenix this year and it's very clear the impact that Monty Williams is having on the Suns. And I think you could go through, if you want to keep with the Warriors example, them going from Mark Jackson to Steve Kerr. Yes.

Put him over the top. Giant leaping. You can put you over the top. I mean, the Lakers are hardly making out of playoffs in the late 90s and Phil Jackson comes over and they start winning championships. I mean, but like you said, it's a hair. It's something that we can argue. It's a fun conversation.

It is. I think I just would have to go. But we are in agreement. NFL would be in top. NFL number one. Yeah. I mean, especially add on top of that, you're the general manager and your right-hand man as the team chaplain and all that type of stuff. You're really getting involved in the ins and outs of football.

There's a whole bunch of time when I have to bull to shit the hell out of you. Which is why it just blows my mind that Jerry Jones will not fire Jason Garrett. He is afraid to do it. He believes in his man, and he's afraid to go back on his mistakes. I don't think he believes him. I think he's afraid to admit the mistake. Because if you admit that mistake, you're admitting a 10-year mistake. He's so far in now.

It would be like... I can make some comparisons, but I'm almost off. We're almost off the air, and I've made it through three straight days, and I want to get in trouble. It would be like voting for someone. And then you just really got to stick by with it. Buy it, because that was your choice. And that's what we're going to go with. And no matter what, whoever you voted in does,

You got to stay by him. Okay. It's your damn act together. Just making an analogy. I don't know. Nobody specific comes to mine. All right, that's going to do it for the Mad Time show. I've had fun the last three days, Ross.

First of all, yes. Very thanks to you. It's been an honor. Brian Smith of the Houston Chronicle, three days coming in, doing a great job. The shows are always easy when you come in here. A lot of fun. Matt will be back next week. And my last big shout out to Greg Cook.

A fun farewell. and keep tipping bottles right now in the sunset. He's probably at Treasures at this point. All right. So shout out to Greg Cook. Thanks to Brian, as I said. Thanks to Nick Lowe, producing doing a great job. And my sincere, thanks to all of you for listening, tweeting, calling, being involved in this show in any way.

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