The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - The Matt Thomas Show : BOB Ratio-ed, Aaron Reiss, Cayleigh Griffin

Episode Date: March 19, 2020

The Matt Thomas Show with @SportsMT, @SportsRV and @ProNickLow 3/19/20Bill O'Brien Gets Ratioed (0:00)Aaron Reiss of The Athletic on D Hop Trade (1:02:04)People We Miss Hearing From : Cayleigh Griffin (1:44:57)

So much larger than life. Yeah. Lunch timers is the Matt Thomas Show. 12-0-2-18-town. What's happening in luncht timers? Good afternoon to you and welcome to a Thursday edition of the Matt Thomas show. We're almost third of the weekend. Is this Thursday?

So we can do more stuff at home that we weren't doing six weeks ago. Yeah. Is your honey-do list knocked out, Matt? God. We're working on the laundry room. We're going to work on closets. That's good. We're doing a lot of clothes.

Right. Trying to declutter, if you will. You know how bad last night was? How bad was it, Matt? How bad was it? I'm flipping between all the different ESPN channels and are putting on a lot of retro games. Apparently on the big one, the ESPN, it was Kevin Durant. Grant night. I watched, not consecutively, but over a four-hour stretch, bits and pieces of three to four Kevin Durant basketball games in 2007 while a member of the University of Texas. And I almost called you. That is your sweet spot, Ross. That's true. 2007, Texas. And I kept waiting to see. I was at a lot of those games.

I kept waiting to see if PJ Tucker would show up. And he was. He had just left. He had just left, which disappointed me a little bit. Yeah. Well, no, he was a senior, so he had to leave. So I saw a young Kevin Durant. I saw a young DJ Augustine. Yes. An AC Law playing for Texas Tech, I want to say. AJ Abrams was on the squad. Who else was on that?

Was Alexei Wang Mani on that team? And a couple of nights ago, there was an old Duke versus North Carolina game in 2012 where Austin Rivers hits a three-point shot literally at the buzzer to beat North Carolina at North Carolina in his only year at Duke. these young men, still young obviously today, but I mean, baby faces looking at seven, eight, nine years ago. And I'm thinking, man, why would, I must have looked just as handsome like that eight or nine years ago.

I mean, you think, I mean, I haven't changed much. I'm still a good looking man today like I was when we first met, right? Okay. Not real. So they had a final four of a women's game on with a young Doris book, Burke from 2008. Wow. I mean, it's,

I wouldn't say I was entertained. I wouldn't say it was the worst thing on, but it was just kind of fun to go back a little bit and see how technology change, how a game call change, who the announcers were, a full crowd at the Irwin Center, which you haven't seen in years.

I told you it's possible. You didn't believe me. Yeah, it was full. Because here's the thing. Tom Brady's supposed to have his physical today in New York for the Buccaneers. When that happens, and he officially becomes a

Tampa Bay Buccaneer. We're going to go crazy over that, right? We're going to get reaction here, reaction there. Okay. But I'm just, as I said yesterday, I'm a little Brady fatigued. Okay. Because, again, here is what I'm hearing. He's going to change him to a Super Bowl contender.

He's got wide receivers and tight ends a throw to. A bunch of free agents want to go now talk to the Buccaneers. They're the hot team. You know the two hottest teams are on the NFL this offseason? Tampa Bay, because they're getting Tom and the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah. Because... Who's not the hottest team?

Maybe the coldest? If the Buccaneers are hot, the Texans are blank. Chili. Chilly. Speaking of the Texans, Bill O'Brien put out a statement yesterday to get their Twitter account. Oh, that's right. He did.

And you know what we like to do sometimes here on the old Matt Thomas show? We like to look at the replies of things that happen on Twitter. Yes. We like to call it as the kids call it, being ratioed. Rossi, would you say the Texans official statement yesterday got them ratioed? Yes or no? Well, any time that the replies are far outpacing the retweets and the replies are negative, then you're being ratioed.

Right now, this tweet from the Texans has 59 retweets. Okay. 567 replies. Oh. I think they're getting ratioed. All right. First and foremost, before I read the statement, you know, I'm sure many of you seem Let's find out who liked it.

Okay. I just liked it by accident. I just saw the light number go up. That must have been you. That was me. Let's find out who liked him. Let me just run through the list here. I'm looking for people with the word Texan in their avatar name.

Brandy Flores, she's a Texans fan. Yeah. It says, let's see. Romald Ascensio. Oh, there's Moon Willow has a Texan logo in this person in the avatar. Let's see next up here. Who else? A lot of Russian bots.

Yeah, I was going to say, there's some porn people on here. Maybe the porn industry likes this tweet out yesterday. There's some attractive people in this. Yeah. Rebecca Zachary? I mean, it is what it? Oh, let's see. Boy, it's funny.

I don't see a tremendous amount of, oh, here we go. So most Texans Mexico liked it. And I don't, obviously, I don't see all of them. Matter of fact, I only say like 50 of them. Why can't I see all the people that like that? I don't know, Matt. It must have enough from you. All right.

So let's read you the official statement. Do we have any official statement music we can play for the show? Yeah, I'm sure we can find something. Are you sure? He-Ha doesn't work? If you want. No. Just play whatever, Nick.

Nick, play official statement music and that's I read from the official statement. Oh, I like this. Yeah, go near John Fascenda. The Frozen Tudras of It Archie. Houston Texans of it. official statement. In accordance with NFL policies, the Houston Texans have been prohibited from making any official announcements regarding free agent signings of trades until the player has

safely completed a physical and signed a contract. Given the difficult and unprecedented circumstances engulfing the world right now, the health and safety of our communities is our foremost priority. Ross is on a side note. What does that have to do with this trade? Nothing. I'll go back to it. We are excited to welcome the newest Texans to Houston when all transactions become official.

In the meantime, we will do our best to keep fans informed while keeping football in its proper perspective. Screw you MF's, Bill O'Brien. You added that last part. All right. So how much of that did Bill O'Brien, right? Zero. Now, he had to clear that. Yeah.

So somebody in the PR department wrote it. Did he have Jack? Did he have Jack Easterby writing for him? No. Hey, Jack, go ahead and write this for me. PR department probably wrote it. Yeah. Jack has to sign it.

He was probably out getting coffee or something. Yeah. Jack has to give the okay to that and so does Bill O'Brien. Yeah. Cal doesn't need to see this. It's nothing he needs to worry himself with. Right. All right.

So Rossi, can you run through? Do we have any reply music? There's a song with the Beatles called No Reply, but I don't think that's what we're going with here. Can you read some of the. better replies to the Houston Texans official statement yesterday. Well, I'll just run through some of these because there's 569 of them. Ooh, seems a bit intense.

What Bill O'Brien did to this organization is despicable? I abandon this team over Bill O'Brien. I encourage others to do the same. When will y'all be announcing the Bill O'Brien firing? I highly doubt anyone in Houston cares anything you have to say anyway. there's a poll in here with 1100 votes should Bill O'Brien be fired? There are two answers, Matt.

Yes and no. Oh gosh. There's some reply music. Yeah, that's exactly. 95.6% have said yes. So what is that? About 19 to 1? 19 out of 20 respondents

say Bill O'Brien should be fired. By the way, as somebody mentioned on Twitter, A.C. law. He went to Texas A&M, but he was on the... They did show on A&M Texas game. That's what you were saying. Yeah. I picked that up on it.

Okay, so make sure. Matt, you said that correctly. The person needs to listen more closely. Okay. Let's see. Who is voting no on this? Let me guess. Texans Karen.

Oh, my goodness. What? What? There's only a... Oh, no, there's... There's more. I was going to say, only a few of the replies were showing up.

And I was going to say, so you can hide replies. some accounts. So it's going to say to the Texans high replies, but no, something's wrong with me. Hashtag Fire Bill O'Brien. Good thing,

this is not, I don't think this is news. Good thing to David Johnson has a degenerative spine and can get you out of this deal. Ouch. I don't think that's right. By the way,

even if he fails a physical, they're going to reconfigure the trade. This organization sucks. Thanks for repaying your loyal fans by ruining this franchise. Sorry, Texans, but I'm officially done. Trash franchise.

Hashtag idiot Cal McNair. Go to Hell William. fire this clown, vomiting emojis. Okay. But you know what? Okay, so that's just a little sample. Sounds like O'Brien is infected with something already.

Kill yourselves and then leave Houston. You can't do that in that order. I mean, come on. Okay. Come on, Captain Crunch, 7.03. We're going to change it. Holy smokes. You're in line about that B-O-B.

So I don't want to spend three hours today. Well, there's 570-ish replies. probably 559 of them are negative. Let me tell you. Texans, Karen,'s going, we love you no matter what. We think you're awesome. Go Texans. What's the hashtag, we are Texans?

Can't wait to see you in City Hall in Denver next year. AFC South Champions, two years in a row. Yeah. Is it a Brian part clipped off of that? That's too bad. Doesn't matter, Brian. There you go. Much better.

All right, 713, 212, 790. We're not going to beat the hell out of the Texans for three. straight hours. We've done it in the previous nine for all the right reasons. We are going to mix in a little Texans conversation. Tyron Matthew spoke today about the DeAndre Hopkins trade. And then you had Brian Billick on the previous show. Is that right, Nicholas? Yeah, he had some comments on it as well. Okay. We'll get to that. We have Aaron Reeves from the Athletic to join us at 1.30 to talk about really the Texans and whole of how they've done in the free agent market. And then we have a brand new segment starting, and we didn't think we'd ever have a segment.

like this, but we started today. People we miss hearing from. Okay. And we're going to do this about two to three times a week. And I don't want to set a day because people's schedules can be up and down. But a new friend of mine, who you guys have seen on AT&T Sportsnet, our Rocket Silent Reporter, Kaylee Griffin, is going to be our first person. We have not heard from in quite a while because of the coronavirus and the postponement of games. She is a sweet girl, first and foremost and is really talented and just about as nice a person as I've met in quite some time. And we look forward to visiting with her today and she'll be with us and our first ever people we miss hearing from at 230.

And we'll have regional broadcasters on, local guys, national people. We'll just get different people that would normally be working this time of year, whether it be baseball or basketball and we'll talk to them. See what they're doing. Sounds great, Matt. Because let me tell you some. I'm going to run. I'm going to really try to get some national bigwigs.

Yeah. Like, for instance. Charles Barkley. Charles, I mean, he can't be that busy, right? Come on. He's been on with Sean before. They're bros. I can't, I can probably call some people that would normally travel five days a week and say,

hey, do you mind coming on and spend in 10 minutes? Because I know you're home, right? Nobody's doing anything. Airports are empty. Casinos are empty. Horse tracks are basically empty. Malls and theaters and restaurants. So the least you can do is be a set guest on people we have missed hearing from.

1213, it's a Matt Thomas show on 790. It's 713-212-5-790. Tyrone Matthew, a former Texan on his shock of DeAndrey Hopkins being a cardinal. You'll hear that next on 790. You'll hear that next on... Stop that wave. Busting the waves since the stroves were in the dome. Who are you going to call? Wave Busters.

Houston Sports Talk continues with the Matt Thomas show. All right, this is really not breaking news. It's just me trying to add a dramatic element to the show. Rossi, I am the president and CEO of Wave Busters. That's correct. I'm the founder. I'm the lead proponent. I'm the man that has assembled people all across the great city of Houston to out those people.

People send me videos during Astor's season of people doing the wave. No one of those people have long hair men wearing jorts, tank tops, and flip-flops. And double-fisting 24-ounce beers. Correct. They probably can't afford. But that's in the humor there. I, as the president, and Nick stay with me on this, I as a president and CEO of Wave Busters, when games resume in Houston, Texas, whether it be the NBA or Major League Baseball, Astros Rockets,

I will suspend wave-busting operations until the end of the calendar year 2020. Yeah, I said it. Yeah, I said it. Well, there's no waves to bust. Yeah, you've had an extraordinary. extraordinarily successful season so far. No. When we resume.

Why? I miss sports. I want people to be happy. You don't miss the wave, though. I think people are happy when they do that. I think there will be a segment of the population that cannot wait to jump into a stadium as fast as humanly possible and do the wave. Well, they need to get over themselves.

Do you hear me, Houston? You are allowed to do the wave until December the 31st, 2020. Probably the end of the baseball season. Did you hear Major League Baseball wants to try a 162 schedule? Yeah, like, uh-huh, that's not going to work. Yeah, they're hoping against all hope at that point. Majorly Baseball. Are they going to do like double-headers twice a week or something?

Well, what I had heard is very short All-Star break or elimination of. Oh, great. I'm sure the Players Association will love that. Well, I could see them getting rid of the All-Star game this year, for sure. Okay. That's Shab's five days. That provides much needed rest in the grind of a long-ass season for baseball. You probably give Kai's a couple days off.

Here's why 162 won't work. Even if you shave the All-Star break off, the weather just becomes too big of a factor, probably at least half of the Major League cities. It just does. Everything in the north from New York, Boston, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Detroit. I mean, I can go Minnesota. Hell, Minnesota has a hard enough time getting into 162 during the regular part of the season. Secondly, they're going to not have enough off days.

You've got to give these guys rest, even though they're getting this extended rest now. And third, Ross, I don't think baseball wants to lather up with a bunch of doubleheaders. Could you imagine playing a double header every Sunday? Because that's how I think you'd get to 162. I'm looking at a map of Major League Baseball cities. And basically besides the California teams, Arizona, the Texas teams, and the Florida teams, and I guess the Braves, everybody else is basically cold weather at some point. Well, Atlanta can get pretty nice.

nasty too. Atlanta's further up as well. And the rain, I mean, Dallas can get snowy too. Well, they have a roof now. That's true. That's good.

But outside of those teams, basically like 20 MLB teams are in cold weather threats. More on this coming up at the bottom of the hour, because I do want to get into what Major League Baseball is thinking these days and what also the NBA is thinking about whether or not they can get a schedule in and the different options that Commissioner Adam Silver had said to ESPN yesterday. Speaking of the NFL and ESPN, we'll segue to that.

Our friend, the Honey Badger, spoke today on ESPN, and he was asked about exactly what is going on when he heard of the news that DeAndre Hopkins had been traded. And here is what Tyrone had to say earlier today. Yeah, I was probably just as shocked as everybody else. you know, I really couldn't imagine, you know, DeAndre Hopkins really not, you know, retiring, you know, in the Texans uniform. I, you know, spent the season with him, you know, a couple years ago. And, you know, he's probably everything you want in the player, especially a teammate, man. Not only of the things he does, you know, on the football field, you know, Monday nights, Thursday nights, Sunday nights.

It's the kind of impact he had in the community as well. He was one of those guys that was always out there. He was very vocal about, you know, especially the voiceless. He gave a lot of people hope in Houston. So I think to see him go is definitely shocking. But to see him unite with his greatest mentor in Larry Fitzgerald, I'm pretty sure those guys are going to do something special in Arizona. Thanks.

This coming from a Super Bowl winning safety from the Kansas City Chiefs. Did he not get asked about Bill O'Brien at all? I guess not. Did you hear the whole interview, Nick? Did he get any Bill O'Brien? That was the only time they spent on the DeAndre Hopkins situation. Really? You would think some of that, you know, because that's the easy thing is the scruntled players or ex-players can go off on coaches.

They don't care. They spend about three times longer talking about Tom Brady and why they asked Tyron Matthew about Tom Brady. I have no idea. By the way, are you all having Brady fatigue? Yes or no. Tell me the truth. You're not. You're okay.

He's a greatest quarterback of all time. Arguably. Now, you have to argue. He's the greatest of all time. Yeah, but I don't, yeah, I need something else besides that. That's why I want to get into some majorly baseball and some NBA stuff. But let's get to Henry in East Houston on 1224 on 790. Hi, Henry.

How are you? I'm fine. I was just coming on that trade of DeAndre Hopkins. I don't know what was the man on drugs or what's his problem making a trade like that. He didn't get a decent return on the trade. And I'm still trying to figure out what the long-term process is. I've been a Texan fan, and I've been an oiler fan since the 70s, and I've never seen anybody make a trade like this.

it takes somebody a pretty low IQ and very little knowledge about football to throw in a trade like this and not get anything in return for anything close to the value that

that man should have got but I don't know maybe some people different in my opinion but I'm going to have to look far between to see anybody that thinks that this was a good trade. I don't know what the man was thinking.

Okay. Does he do drugs? What's his problem? Let me ask him, actually, because Henry, we got Coach O'Brien the line. Coach, your thoughts about what Henry had to say. This is I'm going to. Thanks, Henry, for the phone call. No, I mean, I'm not going to beat a dead horse over this.

have you, I spent a second day, Ross, looking for people to grade this thing out and said, well, I see where maybe they were, I mean, except for Edwarder who was taking the spoon fed material. Well, he, that was, he provided what a Texan source said, that it was the best available offer by far. Okay. Which is assonine. Which is not true. Not true. Well, I believe whatever source told him believes that. Oh, yeah.

But I don't believe it's true. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah. Ed's getting the information. Now, the difference, I don't follow it on Twitter. He didn't say, oh, this makes a lot of sense. I understand why. I mean, he just simply reported what was being told from him, correct?

And he went about his merry way, basically. I think he hashtags everything, go Cowboys, for some reason. No. I'm just kidding. No, Henry, thank you for the phone call. No, there's nobody that understands this, and we're never going to understand it. Rossi, I cannot wait for the first press conference. Well, you know, luckily they're hiding behind the coronavirus.

because other teams aren't able to officially announce players and signings and all that type of stuff, but they can say reports are that, like the official Cardinals Twitter put out, reports are that we've acquired DeAndre Hopkins. Okay. And it's DeAndre Hopkins in an Arizona uniform. So they could do that,

but they're not because they know there's going to be even more or worse blowback than that. So other teams are saying, we can't say this. We can't say that we're being reported this. We can't say we acquired him because league rules. He has to pass. physical and all that type of stuff, but we can say that people are reporting we have them.

Like the Chicago Bears yesterday. Yes. With the Jacksonville trade. We cannot report we've got a new quarterback here, but there are published reports say that the trade was made with Jacksonville. Okay. And then you use that as a workaround as a way of announcing. The Texans haven't done that. Basically every other NFL team is doing that with their moves.

Well, why don't you run through real quick? We've got a minute left in the segment. Why don't run through the five most recent? tweets in the Houston Texans. Okay. Do we even follow it? I think I unfollowed them. No, no, I'm following them.

Okay, go ahead. What do you got? Let's see. They tweeted Vandermeer's view. Okay. And I guess he's doing a show or something. All right. The replies to that, Fire Bill O'Brien, a picture of Bill and Cal.

No one cares about your updates. Fire Bill O'Brien. Fire O'Brien before this gets worse. I hate when language comes into play. Fire Bill, no, brain. Bill no brain? Rather than Bill O'Brien.

Oh, no. That's not nice. That's not nice at all. We're not going to change people's names. There's the one we read and let's see, check out how the Texans community partners are helping Houstonians. That's nice. This is a lighthearted.

We're helping out our community. So let's check the mentions of this one, Matt. We got Felice and a tray details coming up. Right. So it says it's about helping the community. This is positive stuff. So let's check the mentions of this one. joke of an organization

fire him please with a picture of O'Brien you've allowed O'Brien to destroy an organization and its fan base let's see you use this coronavirus as a cover-up so you don't get ripped apart for the new trade um of hashtag fire Bill O'Brien

hashtag fire Bob a lot of hashtags too many hashtags okay so they're out in the community which is good I like that our teams what There's another bad ratio. 27 retweets, 721 replies on the Texans. On the community relations one?

No, this one on the, it's talking about Texans' voice explains the biggest NFL format change. Maybe Mark doesn't need to get on Twitter for the next few days. Yikes. And look, I've known Mark since the day he moved here. Good guy. Really, really good guy. Yeah, wet jumper. Excuse me?

He has a wet jumper? He has a wet jumper. I have never heard that. That means he's splashing, Matt. he's splashing on him. Have you ever heard the term? Rick. Nick,

have you ever heard the term wet jumper before? Wet jumper? Yeah. Oh, geez. I've heard wet dream. Oh, right. All right. All right.

Segment of suspension on that. Wet jumper? You've never heard that? I've never heard of wet jumper before. Well, do you understand now that I've explained it? I absolutely understand what it is. It doesn't mean that I've ever heard it, though. Yikes.

Do you have a wet jumper? This is, this is going to go down at 20. in a row that I don't want to go to. Oh, geez. I've never heard Craig Ackerman say a wet jumper. I've never said wet jumper on a block. And I've said splash. Yeah, it's the same thing.

Is it? Here we go. I got it for you, Urban Dictionary. Oh, there we go. This will solve everything. Wet-ass jumper is a jump shot in basketball that 99% of the time makes it in the hoop. I love it. Do you think I should say a wet jumper in my next rocket broadcast whenever I get it?

Yeah. That's not going to happen. Oh, okay. Heart and open for three, and he hits it. This is James Harvey. Wowing the crowd here at Toyota Center. Sports Talk, 790 is your home for Rockets Basketball. From The Athletic on the Texans beat at 1.30 today, an hour from now.

Kaylee Griffin, brand new to our sports media family. She does the sidelines for the Rockets, and she's on AT&T SportsNet, and she'll be with us in our first ever edition of people we miss hearing from. Maybe there's a more clever name than I can think of, but I just can't at this moment because I'm not particularly clever. No, we're rolling with that. I'm already building an intro. Are you really? Will you have it already by 230? I think so. Man.

You're back on segments. You're not a lot of, you're not suspended for this segment. I'm really busy, though. Okay, well, then you don't need to talk. 713, 212-790. We talked a little bit in the previous segment about Major League Baseball. They're going to try for 162. Yeah, okay. They can try all they want to.

It's not going to happen. There's no way we can guess how long it's going to be because we don't know when the start of the season is but there'll be no way they play 162 they probably Ross could we would we accept an 81 games 82 game season? For Major League Baseball?

Yeah. It's a very small sample size. I'm just asking it's thrown us out there. I would like to get to at least 100. Nice round number. What does make it a legit season? Do you think the 100 number is a proper threshold? How many games was the 94 season?

Minor leaguers play 144, I think, is what I think they do. Could you jam 144 games in from, say, late May to say late October? No All-Star brick? Double-headers occasionally, maybe every other week. That's only missing 18 games, but you've missed essentially two months. I mean, there's no precedence. for this, so we don't know. Yeah, the 94 strike shortened season,

looks like most team played about 110 games. Yeah, and look, at least. We could argue about what's a good round number. It's all going to depend on when the calendar date starts and how far you can go. Did you also hear that because of the cold weather angle, that we could have neutral site playoffs and a neutral site World Series?

I'm okay with that. Do you still go best of seven? Yeah, why not? Because why do you, if you're worried about, you wouldn't be worried about, first of all, whatever neutral side they're picking, better damn well have a roof.

Oh, it's going to be a southern city or Houston. Right. Or any city with a dome stadium. Yeah. Okay. Do you need to have seven games of it, though, to determine a world,

if you can bring everybody in, well, because I'm saying, because you don't, because you're going to run into where you're going to put the games. Because at this, if you're trying to jam everything in,

Fox, FS1 may not be available because they've got to get their college football in or their NFL stuff in. They'll find somewhere for it. I think no matter what happens in both football and basketball, we're going to see reduced playoff series. I can see a five-game one-site World Series spot.

That's, why can't you have it for two more days? Again, I don't think they're trying to avoid that. I think they're going to be saying where are we going to put these games. I guess you could put them out in the afternoon. you put them in Houston? Yeah. They'll make, I don't understand. I guess it doesn't matter.

Even if it were three-game series, it wouldn't matter. It's all, in some ways, it's about a roll of a dice anyways. The best team didn't always win. Okay. So let's get to a more practical one on the NBA side of things, because they don't want to jam one season into the next season right away. I absolutely, if we get a resumption of the season, which I'm not so sure we're going to be able to get. Who knows? Yeah.

I could see playoff series being cut to five. I could see that more in basketball because the travel involved, the fatigue involved, you can't have back-to-backs. I mean, you can, but you would want to avoid it all costs back-to-back to play. See, because baseball, to me, that seems less of a threat. You can play three, you can play three, four games in a row. Because they're accustomed to it. Exactly, because that's what they do. It's baseball.

And the most important player in the field doesn't play but every fifth day. You can knock out four games at four days. Teams play four-game series all the time. basketball ain't going to happen. No, you'd have tired legs. Yeah, you had back to back to backs like in the 60s or something like that, but you're not going to do it now. So what the NBA is thinking about are three things. One, a full resumption of the season.

Like we pick up where we left off, we just push the dates back, yada, yada, yada, with fans. And again, this is not based on what the owners or the players or the commissioner wants. It's going to be based on what society can dictate. A is full resumption. B is you have games again, but you do it in empty buildings, smaller venues, which I would think the proper, if you're going to do this in a non-venu. Now, Tillman runs the Fortitas, runs the Toyota Center. Yeah. So he's his own landlord.

And I don't know how that works with other teams, whether it would be more advantageous so they don't have to pay rent in other places. But you could go to the Fortita Center and do it if you're not going to have fans. I mean, it doesn't matter to the venue at this point, as long as the court's on any four feet. Right. Option three, which is obviously a full closure of the season, which nobody wants. Spots Park off a Memorial Drive. The church gym, not an option. Why not?

And then Option D that was brought up, if indeed there is a massive basic cancellation of the years, test 15, 20 good players and have one big charity basketball tournament with all stars. They're playing three on three or what? I saw that floated out, but I didn't see the details on it as well. Because what Silver said yesterday, and I'm paraphrasing from him, is he's saying that we as people, we miss sports. We people need sports, something to keep their interest off of what's going on in the rest of the world. Yeah. I'm actually doing okay. I mean, I'm...

It's almost like I'm on vacation. Because the way of my regular life is, I have to watch sports every single night, which I love doing, and it's for my job. I miss it. I really do. I do, but the rest of it's not that bad for me. And I do miss not having restaurants open, open. Yeah. And I mean, I'm watching sports-related programming. Like they had the I hate Christian Leitner thing on last night. I watched a little bit of that. I watched a lot of Texas basketball last night. They've got the 30 for 30s on, basically on it all times.

They got the hardwood classics coming up. So, I mean, I'm still getting a little bit of a sports fix. It's just that I'm not at least, like, I don't have to have to watch something still I can talk about it the next day. Yeah. It's a little bit of a relief of pressure. Such a small minority to do it. basically a sports media. Right, right, exactly.

It's us. The rest of it was like, it was on our sports bag. I would watch the charity event, but it wouldn't be must-see TV. I'm not going to rally. Like, for instance, they said in six weeks,

the NBA season resumes with five games. And then the next game, there's a full, I would be in front of the television. You'd be like, you know how Christmas Day is in the NBA? Yeah, they should do that. Or you watch one game after one game.

You don't care who's playing. You just love a Christmas. Yeah, they're called COVID Day. Whatever. You can call whatever you want. But to have basketball or for that matter, baseball back, it'll be awesome. Yeah. This isn't the worst thing in the world.

I mean, being sick would be the worst thing in the world, frankly. Or being out of, you know, there are a lot of people listening to us right now that are being laid off or being furloughed or being asked to take time off without pay. I mean, that's the real, that's the real rub right now going on. But for us that love sports the way that we do, whether we're we working in it or we just enjoy it, I kind of need it back. I've run through all my This Is Uses. I've started watching old YouTube clips, and I can do that for a while, but man, I need me a game. Our friend Kelly says, she needs my help on the Texans. That's what this show is about at the end of the day.

Sharp analysis, Woody Riparte, and people calling for my help. Okay. And I will provide such help. Astros, buddy. You have H grad. Tex-Mex connoisseur. Well, is there anybody more Houston than Matt Thomas? No way.

Back to the Matt Thomas show. Some good news coming out of the University of Houston today. This is an odd update provided to you by her friends at the Joint Chiropractor, the official chiropractor of the Houston Cougars. A staff member with the Houston baseball team who had symptoms of consistent with the coronavirus was tested and it came back negative today. The players, the coaches, and the staff had all been. self-quarantine while waiting for the test results.

Thankfully. Sports travel is going to be a pain. It is. I have a feeling when I get back on the road with the rockets, I'll be tested a lot. Temperature. I think the temperature thing is going to be a pretty easy one. I think there's going to be some decision to be made about whether or not you can get on a plane if you're running a fever of some sort. That would be the first thing, right?

Do you think commercial travel could do that too? Do you think there'll be in-house physicians at gates and stuff? I don't know. I think they were doing it in China. Like if you wanted to go to the grocery store, they had to check your temperature. They'd check you at the door. Is that the be all and all that, you know? I don't know.

I mean, it's one of the big ones if you're running. Because you have a, I guess if you're running a fever, you have something, right? You either have the flu or this coronavirus or some other virus. The only time I can think of you can get a fever without you really having any symptoms of it is, let's say that you laid in, like, the dinner night. This may not a week ago. I was laying in bed and I was really hot. And Kim's like, you've got a little fever going. And I said, well, what do you think it is?

And she says, well, you've got seven covers on. So that's really the only thing I can think of is that you're... You sleep with like seven blankets, Matt? I think I did. How many pillows you go with? Two. Two? Yeah.

I got to have at least like four pillows. More oftentimes one. I like to be surrounded around by pillows. That's why hotels are the other jam because you can... It's like one from my head, one from my shoulder, one between the legs. You put one between your legs? Yeah, wait, whoa. You put one between your legs?

Yeah, why not? I sleep on my side. Is it good? I'll try it. I'm a side sleeper as well. Yeah, put a pillow between your legs. Is you the best part about hotel pillows?

You sleep knock-kneed? Yeah. No, it's much more comfortable with a pillow between you. Try it. Now, my wife had one of those elongated pillows when she was pregnant with her kids. Yeah. I like the body pillows as well. She loved that when she was pregnant because she was a tough sleeper.

The best part about hotel pillows and first of all, they give you six or eight. And then you go into the spare closet and there's like two or three more. Yeah. You could surround yourself. with 10 pillows if you wanted to. You know what I just figured out? You remember last segment or a couple of segments ago? You were talking about how many you miss sports?

Yeah. You really just miss being fancy mat. That's actually what you miss. You miss just flying around to five diamond hotels, getting pampered and taking care of, eating whatever you want. Don't forget about the good food. As much peanut butter jelly as you'd like.

They do serve a lot of peanut butter and jelly in the NBA. I love it. You just miss the fancy mat lifestyle. You don't really miss games. I miss that. And games. And I miss that there are gambling, there are casinos in a lot of those in Bay towns. Yeah, that's true.

Like this next trip we were supposed to go on, the five gamer. Yeah. Dallas, no casinos, but that's okay. Milwaukee. Yeah, go to Oklahoma about an hour out. Well, let me finish the story. Milwaukee casinos. Detroit casinos.

Milwaukee has full-on. Full-on casinos. Really? Yeah. Indian casinos or what? No, legit ones, right? I'm sorry. Native American casinos.

They could be, but they're in the middle of the city. Native peoples. Yeah. Milwaukee has casinos. Philadelphia has casinos. Where else are supposed to go on that trip? Detroit has casinos and Indiana does not. So three of the five cities on the rocket trip you were supposed to go to next have casinos.

That's three opportunities for you to lose some money, Matt. Or win it like I've been doing lately. Okay. That's why Ross and I have made this declaration. Yes. The moment that Lake Charles opens up again, even if it's the middle of the show, we're leaving. And I'm not allowed to throw the dice. Well, that goes without saying.

You can bet on the same table with me, but I'll be Dan, if you throw any of it. Oh, I'm going to throw. I'm due, baby. Kelly, what can I help you with today? Sure. But I wasn't referring to Houston, Texans. I was referring to the Texans that live in Houston. Oh, okay.

Well, what do you got? What can I do for you? Go ahead. Well, if you could help me, you may remember from before, I'm an SLP assistant here in Houston, Texas. And we... What is SLP? The speech language pathologist.

Are you on a speaker, by the way? Yeah, can you get us off of that? Jump off that speaker phone, please. We're getting an echo. We're getting an echo. Hello. Much better. All right.

All right, go ahead, SLP. What do you got? Okay, so I offer speech therapy to Houston. Mm-hmm. And we were notified last night that The Texas Department License and Registration is not allowing us to do teletherapy services. So I tweeted you, and I'm wondering if you could help me retweet that, and it has the Texas Department of License and Registration on the tweet that we need to offer telehealth to our patients

so they can receive speech therapy and a safe manner protecting the clients, therapists, and families. Well, I mean, I'll be happy to do it, but what is that going to ultimately do? I mean, is someone in government going to say, oh, sports MT just retweeted this out? We've got to change our philosophy on this? Well, you have a lot of followers, Matt, and if they retweet it and Texas Department sees it, maybe it will help put some fire under their butt. Well, I'll go look at my retweets on my mentions and in the break here.

If I can find that, I'll be happy to do that. I just don't know if I can carry that. kind of way, but I'll try. Well, you know, I always call about sports, but I'm actually having to worry about some serious things right now. Well, of course. We're all having to worry about serious things. Yeah, you got it. Thanks, Kelly. We'll see you later. All right. Yeah, I go back and look at it. I get a lot of retweets. Most of them say you suck or stuff like that, but maybe there's one nice one back there somewhere. All right. Let's get the second hour started here shortly. What do you want to get to? We were half hour away from eviscerating the Texans again.

Maybe Aaron Reese will have some very measured well-thought-out reasons of why everything is okay over there. So it would really be the anti-Mad Thomas show. Because our ideas are not well-thought-off, thought well-of, half-cocked, spontaneous, correct, largely inaccurate. Yeah. No foundation to them. 12 to 3, SportsCoc 7-90. So basically Aaron Rice is the anti-what we are.

No, we'll see. I said maybe. Or he could jump on and say, yeah, Matt, this is whack. I don't know if he's going to say that. You know what he'll do when Aaron joins us. We'll ask him if he has a wet jumper. See, I just don't like that. Okay. When we have Craig on the show, and Craig will be when the, what do we call in the segment again, Nick?

People we miss hearing from? Yeah. Who's your idea? You don't remember? People we miss hearing from. Yeah, it's not particularly clever. It's not very, it's not concise. No.

It's not brief. Well, we're locked in now. How about just people we miss? No. Too late. Can we play now? You won't wait to wait until three. Give me a second.

I'm still putting some fine touches on. You should cut that off. We miss hearing from. Well, let's let him hear what it sounds like. We can't? Good. Then we'll keep it. Aaron Reese at 130.

Kaley Griffin from AT&T SportsN at 230. This is the Matt Thomas show. Is the Matt Thomas show. 102 on Sports Talk 790. It is the Matt Thomas show, Buccaneers, and Tom Brady. are getting a physical. Actually, Brady's doing it.

The Buccaneers probably need a mental physical if they want to spend serious cash. Have we seen a dollar amount on Tom Brady, by the way? How much is going to get paid? We should have $30 million a year. We haven't seen how many years. I'm guessing two? So they just said, here's a blank check, filled out, come be our Buccaneer. And by the way, do you see the season ticket sales are going through the roof?

Yeah, it's going to make them back, I guess. But, well, somebody said they were on the wait list already. And was there not a wait list before, I guess? I don't know. Raymond James seats about 70,000. I can't imagine being a waiting list. I think they saw... They were okay last year.

Yeah, they didn't embarrass themselves. Actually, they played pretty well lately or until they lost the Texans game. That was a game they could have won, but they played better second half a year than they did the first. Some NBA news is coming out. This is from Adrian Wojornowski of ESPN. Can you call these things Wodge Bombs this time of year? Because I usually think the Wodgebomb is usually reserved for NBA for agency and trades, right? These are not bombs.

These are more like nuggets of information. The NBA has informed teams that players are allowed to travel out of the market, but the preference remains that players stay in the city is actually playing. As expected, teams' facilities will close down to players and staff starting tomorrow. I know the rockets were having individual workouts. Most teams were making sure that they were staying in that under-tenths. 10 group, that they're only maybe one or two players per, you know, per workout. Now they're closing that down.

Hmm. By the way, Buccaneers were second to last in the NFL in terms of capacity. They only sold about 79% of their tickets every game. Really? Okay. Dead last? Cincinnati Bengals. Well, by the way, probably will get a pretty good bump in sales when Joe, well,

does Joe Burrell push season ticket sales in Cincinnati? I would think so. I guess initially, yes. Because here's the thing. I don't think Joe Burrow is an automatic to be a star in the NFL. He was automatically, in my mind, the best college quarterback last year, and automatically easy Heisman winner. But that doesn't translate the NFL.

We've seen a lot of quarterbacks that were the can't miss prospects in college football go ahead and bust in the NFL. Right. He won't be the last one if he is the next one. So if I'm a Bengals fan today, I'm not thinking we're going to eight wins next year. Here's the thing, Ross, in all reality, Pat Mahomes, nobody thought right away was going to be the savior. I mean, he sat for a whole year. Sat for a whole year.

Alex Smith took his spot, and it was Andy Reid, who had the ballsy decision to get rid of a quarterback who had been very successful that had taken the chiefs to multiple playoff appearances and say, you know what? We like you, Alex Smith. there's something we see in Pat Mahomes is just better. And he was right. Well, who's, I mean, it's going to be Joe Burrow and nobody else. Right. Andy Dalton's a free agent. I don't think the Bengals have any interest in signing, re-signing him. I don't think he has any interest in resigning there because he wants to be a starting quarterback.

My guess is Andy Dalton's trying to push whatever he can to become the, I think Cam Newton would like to be the Patriots quarterback. I think Andy Dalton would like to be the starting quarterback there. I think anybody would. Yeah. Even though they don't have the receiving targets that other teams do, there's a philosophy that, you know what? Bill Belichick's a really good, bright coach.

Is Joshua McDaniels still their offensive coordinator? I think so, yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're going to a place that has had nothing but success for basically 20 years. I can see somebody's career being resurrected there. The question is, how much are the Patriots willing to pay? Or do they think that, The backup, Jared Stenham, who, you know, I don't think he got maybe a handful of snaps last year.

Did he play? He might have played that last game in their regular season because I don't think it's anything that the Patriots could have done. Apparently they like him. It's a question of how much do they like him and how well can he play? And, you know, how many snaps did he take last year? Can you look at his number real quick? I'm trying to find it. It's Jared Stidham information is very low right now.

Well, we could actually call Tad Brown. He probably a lot of information about him. Tad, of course, is the CEO for the Rockets, and he is this father-in-law of Jared Stedham. So I bet you I can get a complete rundown of Jared. He threw four passes, completed two of them. He did play in three games. Probably a lot of that was kneeling down or something.

But frankly, that means he didn't play much in week 17. He has, he completed two passes to his own team and one pass to the other team. No touchdowns. So he's two of four for 14 your heart. Well, let's get really right down to it. What's his passer rating? 18.7. Out of a 158.3 maximum.

Yeah, I do find it interesting that a lot of the networks are trying to play the guessing game of who the starting quarterback's going to be. So let's do that on our own. I've given you a couple of options. Is there anybody else that's looking for work in the NFL? Rivers is with the Colts now. Bridgewater went to Carolina. Is there anybody else that, I mean, would be ready to go, that's a free agent that would be available, that would be a guy that Bill Belichick would say, you are better than what we've seen in a year of practice of Jared Sinam, and we're going to give you the chance to be the starting quarterback over the center. I think Joe Flacco is available.

Oh, by way, he just failed his physical today with the Broncos. So he's been, I think he's been released by Denver. He'd be available. Good for him. Andy Dawton doesn't do much for me at all. No, nor should he. The red rifle. How much of that is because he's played for a terrible team

Or is how much it is because he was terrible He made the team terrible They had some good defenses on some of those teams And weapons and I mean, AJ Green's been there Almost the whole time he's been there They've had decent running backs Joe Nixon's there Maybe he's just bad

Yeah I think he's average Couldn't Cam Newton really thrive there Provided he's 100% healthy He's healthy he can have probably I think he can thrive anywhere If he's healthy I think it's a mistake to get rid of him

Don't forget James Winston's going to be out there That's true Mr. 30 for 30. I have a crazy take on James. How crazy is it one to ten? I think he is a good quarterback. Because I think part of the reason he threw so many interceptions last year is because his thumb was broken. He played with a broken thumb.

And people forget that. He was literally suiting up every week with a broken thumb, throwing for a ton of yards and touchdowns and, you know, the occasional receptions. So let me ask you this. He couldn't really hardly drive the ball. Was this the first year that he had a problem throwing as many interceptions as touchings? No. Okay. So what do you say?

Oh, here we come to the butt. I'll give you the butt. The Buccaneers over most of his career have played from behind. And he said to throw more, which means if you throw more, you're typically going to throw more interceptions. I mean, he threw for 5,000 yards and 30 touchdowns, Matt, 33 touchdowns. He also threw 30 intercept him. Okay. So call your shot right now.

I think he's a decent quarterback. I'd rather have him than Andy Dalton. I'm totally serious on that. So let's put them in order of potential. And if we're forgetting somebody, let's not forget. Jared Stenham, the backup. Yeah. Andy Dalton.

Okay. James Winston. Cam Newton. I would go Cam. Jared, I think, is just unknown. Okay, but put them in some sort of category. Okay, Cam, James, Andy Dalton, and then Stidham. Just because I don't know anything about Stidham.

I can't put him anywhere. Is that your preference or what you think Bill Belichick's thinking? I'm just rating how good I think they are. Okay, I would go with you on that, but I want to know about what Coach Belichick thing. I think Stenheim is higher than somebody in that list. Who? If it's anybody, it's Andy Dalton. Okay, here's the thing.

Cam Newton can't stay healthy. That's problem number one. Problem number two of James Winston is, is he going to drive Bill Belichick to further gray hair because of the inopportune interceptions that he throws. And he has a history that his entire NFL career. Yeah, but it was never that bad. 30. You want to run through every year?

Just real quick. Last couple of years. The year before that, it was 19 to 14. Still never. 19 to 11, the year before that. Okay. 28 to 18. Yeah.

Year before that. Yeah, my point's taken. Yeah, my point is well taken. He throws too many. Way too many. But he's not going to know 30. He will never throw 30 interceptions again. Oh, there's no.

chance because Bill Belichick won't put a quarterback out that even gets to the 25 range. I would say if I'm Bill Belichick. He threw for 5,000 yards. If I'm Bill Belichick, if everybody is healthy, I find out what the Panthers want for Cam Newton. He also fumbled 12 times last year.

You're not helping your cause. Yish. He only lost five of them. Am I right? Cam Newton's a guy if he's healthy. I'll go Cam, absolutely. I don't know. James Winston's undefeated in the playoffs. He is? because he's never made it. They haven't been to the playoffs once, what, 2007, something like that?

I saw somewhere. They've only won six playoff games in their history, and Tom Brady's won six Super Bowls. Well, one of those years, they won the Super Bowl. Yeah, 2002, Brad Johnson. Yeah. All right, so I'll do this real quick. I would go, if I had all those guys on a silver platter,

I would go Cam one. I'm doing it, James 2. I'm going to go throw you off and say Andy Dalton 2, Stenum 3. James 4. You're just trying to be difficult now. No, I'm not. How can you put Jared Stead of him ahead of James Weston?

Have the Patriots done a decent job of building up backup quarterbacks? Yeah. Serviceable? Sure. Like who? Brian Hoyer? Matt Castle? What did Matt Castle do?

He was serviceable? Jimmy Garapolo is the only one that's done anything. Matt Castle went 11 and 5 when Brady was out there. Yeah, that's true. And then what happened when he went to the Kansas City and wherever else he went. He failed because he wasn't around Belichick. Right. So was it Mancastle or was it the backup? That's why I'm thinking Bill Belichick's like I can I can take any of these guys. Okay. So I'll go. Yeah, here's what I'll go.

Brian Hoyer, disaster. Ryan Mallet, disaster. Ryan Fitzpatrick again. He's been around. Was he play for the Patriots too? I thought one that maybe. No, I think he's the only thing he hasn't played for. He's remember when Tebow was the backup there? Oof. 113, Cliff Kingsbury, a former backup of the Patriots. Very brief. Now he's got a very very full. I'm sorry. Fitzpatrick was part of the Houston terrible. Houston terrible.

All right. I got you. 713212. 570. If you were the Patriots, and we just gave me the four names, and is there's anybody else we're forgetting about that should be considered? DeShone Watson.

You shut your dirty home mouth. He's not available. Well, let's Deshawn says. I don't think DeAndre Hopkins was available. Yeah, that's true. Chase Daniel? No. I'd take every one of those quarterbacks over Chase.

Colin Kaepernick's available. He's been available for a long time. Who, if you were the Patriots, who would you take of the four names, unless I'm forgetting somebody? 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-2-2-790. It is the Matt Thomas show.

Aaron Reese from The Athletic at the bottom of the hour here on Sports Talk 790. Matt has eye trouble. He's having trouble seeing Dallas win anything anytime soon. Sorry about that, friends to the North. Back to the Matt Thomas show. All right, we're going to the NFLB in about 12 minutes from now. Aaron Reese from The Athletic.

I'll be with us. Kaylee Griffin is going to be the first guest of our people we miss hearing from. I'm butchering the introduction of it. Let's let Nick play the official intro of our first guest coming up a little or an hour from now. People we miss hearing from. Okay, and remember, you can't call my show for six months. Not bad at all. You got Sabrina involved?

Yeah. Got some music in there? Yes. A little Al Green. It's always a good time. If you really wanted to add a lecture or something, you could have put a little John Sebastian and welcome back on there. I might be able to squeeze that in there.

Is it? I don't know. All right, Kaylee Griffin, people we miss hearing from. Coming up. She's never been a guest on the show. She's giving me nonstop grief about it, too. Really? Yeah.

Was she looking to expand her brand via the Matt Thomas show? Well, I mean, it has helped. She'll find out that's a mistake. People have gone on to be very successful. By the way, Ross and I have forgotten one name on the potential future Patriots quarterback tree. Jake Dallone. No.

Kyle will give us the answer to that. Hi, Kyle. Tell my audience who you think it could be a possibility. Matt, long time, no here, buddy. I miss you. I think since they got Phillip Rivers, why not Jacoby Bresset? He's used to the system. Belichick knows him. And that's what I'm thinking. Let's take him. That's the name that we forgot about. That's what I'm here for to help you out.

Thank you, Kyle, for the phone call. Appreciate you, Dowling and friend. Yeah, that's it, Ross. There's another name on the list. Jacoby Brissette. That's what's going to get the people going. well I mean if you want a backup who Belichick likes backups he nurtures them then trades them off true he would know it wouldn't take him long to catch up on the system

maybe they draft somebody he has more experience in Jarrett's than him does yeah so does most quarterbacks well but that's not that's not his fault he's got the goat in front of him I mean there was no one's going to criticize Bill Belichick for not playing Jared Sinem it's just because Tom Brady's been there for the last 20 years.

And Jared knew this. My guess is if I'm Jared said him, I'm like, I want to follow the exact route that Garapolo into a lesser extent, percent percent made. Learn under the best, get a few reps here and there, sell myself to maybe somebody else. I go start being a starting quarterback somewhere else. My guess is they didn't think a year ago that Tom Brady was going to say,

I'm out of here, I'm going to go play for the Buccaneers. I mean, I think that if you and I would have listened to tapes of a year ago, Ross, the chalk pick would have been that Tom Brady would have played every moment of his life as a patriot. This is a little bit of a surprise. Not stunning surprise, but a little bit. I think there was some thinking that he would go somewhere else maybe and finish his career out because it was towards the end. I always would figure that Tom Brady would want to play longer than he was viable, and Bill Belichick would be smart enough to say, if he's not good enough, we're not going to play him. Right? That's what Bill Belichick's saying right now.

But I also thought. He's saying Tom Brady's not good enough. Well, yeah, clearly. That the Buccaneers are getting 60% of the great Tom Brady. That's why I don't think it's going to be that. I mean, it's a good move for them PR-wise, and they're selling tickets, and they've got a wait list now, so that's great for them. But I don't know how much that's going to work out. I thought when Montana made the announcement through an interview that he regretted going to Kansas City, that that would have been an alarm for Tom.

Especially, I mean, Tom Brady, that's his idol, correct? Joe Montana, he grew up in the Bay Area. Yeah, but the difference in that case is, though, is that Bray... Montana kind of had to leave San Francisco because they had this young scrappy left enter named Steve Young that was ready to go. Yeah, we're bringing that up too because other guys that we think of that left of recent vintage, I mean, Brett Farve left Green Bay because they had Aaron Rogers, right? And then Peyton Manning left Indianapolis because they had Andrew Luck.

Or they were going to pick him. They're going to pick Andrew Luck, right? Well, because of the injury factor. That's right, because he had the major neck injuries, you didn't know if he was going to play. There was a lot of question marks and up in the air and stuff with that. And Andrew Luck was on basically going to be the number one, number one, and was supposed to be the best quarterback prospect since Peyton Manning. So that's the thing that makes me think that maybe Tom Brady's got less in the tank than we even know

because there is no backup plan like that for the Patriots. Now, you know, we've talked about Tom a lot this year. I didn't think he was awful, but he definitely, there was something left off the fastball. He was average. He's gone from being one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. always being in the top five-ish to a fringe top 10. But an average Tom Brady with all those receiving threats they have down in Tampa, can't you see lightning in a bottle maybe for at least one year?

I don't think we're going to be. Maybe. I don't think they're going to be embarrassed. But Tom's going to be slower. I know their run defense is really good. How was their defense overall? If long as he's got a really good defense, there's not much of, I mean, Ronald Jones is they're starting running back.

You also got to realize the people in Tampa Bay are accustomed to what? touchdowns and lots of interceptions. That's one thing Tom Brady, if he's 71 years old and a walker won't do. Tom Brady does not throw very many interceptions. Yeah, he's been efficient. He threw, I think what is he, like eight last year or something? But that's one of the higher numbers he's had probably in a long period of time.

I mean, when you think of touchdown interception ratio among the all-time grades, he's got to be in that list. So it is a little bit different that... Yeah, 24 to 8 was his ratio last. So it's 3 to 1. What is it typically year to year? 29 and 11 before that. That's 30 to 8.

4 to 1. 28 to 2 before that. 14 to 1. Yeah. So yeah, the numbers bear that out. He just doesn't throw a lot of them. But maybe that's the reason why Montana could regret it all he wants, but Montana was not going to be the backup quarterback in San Francisco. I think Bill Walsh and George Sefert eventually were going to ultimately go to Steve Young, weren't they not?

He was kind of basically forced out, right? I don't know. I mean, I was like eight years old. when that happened. Yeah, he was getting longer in the tooth, and Young was this fresh out of the NFL, or the USFL, putting up all these massive pass

numbers. The handwriting was on the wall that Steve Weong was going to take over. There is no handwriting on the wall that anybody was going to replace Tom Brady in New England. The handwriting was, well, Bill Belichick thinks he needs to replace. That's what I'm saying. Because there's no replacement, wouldn't you think the Patriots would be like, hey, let's give you another year, you've

been here forever? Wouldn't you, you pull out all the stops to keep Tom Brady there? if you thought he had something left in the tank or you just believe that much when Jared Stidham, I don't know. I don't think we need to stay away from the Jarrett Stimms earned credibility in those because again, we don't know the we're not privy to those but there's got to be something behind it because right now at this point Ross they only have one quarterback right

if the season started tomorrow which it doesn't obviously Jarant Sinem's are starting quarterback. Stidham is the man and get tickets at least I think we can't. Okay. We know people. You know people. Let's go.

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Ross Via Real, Matt Thomas, with you up until 3 o'clock. We got Kaylee Griffin of AT&T SportsNet Southwest coming up at 2.30. But right now, we are pleased to be joined by. Aaron Reese of the athletic. joins us every week during the season. Happy to have him here. Aaron, first of all, it was a pretty nothing week in Texans news, right?

Yeah, no, nothing going on. I really wouldn't have my thumbs here at home. Right. Okay, well, obviously the DeAndre Hopkins trade, well, take us through that day and how surprised you were, because people probably will forget at some point in time, but there were rumors about DeAndre Hopkins.

There were rumors about David Johnson. They turned out being in the same deal. And if you remember, there was that little period of time where David Johnson was coming to the Texans, but we didn't know DeAndre Hopkins was going in return. So, I mean, just take us through that day and how it went for you and how you reacted. Yeah, like you mentioned, there had been,

the Hopkins rumors had surfaced before. You know, I think, like, you remember seeing tweets about it at some point, like a little before the trade deadline this past season or maybe even like in the preseason before, but like I know it had definitely come up before. And the David Johnson, like you mentioned, I mean, I had written the week four because I kind of had heard that they might be interested in David Johnson, but the way it was framing me at the time and what I thought at the moment when you saw Adam Schaefter say that they were getting David Johnson was that it was kind of going to be a more conventional like Brock Osweiler type to Cleveland type of grade where the Texans and the Draft picks, you know, and have some cap space could maybe take

on a good chunk of this guy's cap it for one year and they could get out of it the next year they needed to and get maybe like a fourth round pickback or something. And then, of course, that's not quite the deal. And ever since then, I feel like everything kind of a written nerve and thinking about with regards to Texans is all kind of like how's everything changed without DeAnder Hopkins because there's a lot to digest them. He was, you know, he'd had a huge share of their targets, one of the biggest shares of a team's targets of any receiver in the league. And obviously, that's going to be a tough production to replace. And I don't think that they've replaced it so far simply by finding Randall Cobb and bringing in David Johnson.

Aaron, let me ask you, and look, there are a lot of things as reporters go, and we are privy to the same kind of thing as a sports talk show. So you're going to hear things and you're going to say, well, that makes a lot of sense. You can't necessarily report them because you don't have the clear-cut evidence of it, or it may ultimately be a minutia point. But there's a lot of the reporters that have been in around the NFL, maybe even some players in the locker and they've said, yeah, Deshaun and Bill O'Brien have had friction for quite some time. To the best of your knowledge, what was their relationship like?

Because yesterday's statement from Ed Worder saying that there was no issues at all between the two of those guys, I don't think anybody in North America believes. So I'll just give it from your perspective. What do you know? If you didn't know anything, that's okay too. But I'm just curious if there was any, in your mind, friction between those two guys. And if so, how long was it there for? Yeah, I feel like, you know, I don't know about the whole Michael Irvin thing.

But, I mean, I really did anyone who spent time around the team would hear murmurs or whatever that they didn't like each other. And some of the things that have come out since in recent days about kind of just like, you know, know, his practice amount, stuff like that. I mean, that's even as simple as if you went to practice as a reporter, you could see kind of that like there would be times where, and this is only the opening period, it's open the media. Like, you know, he's not necessarily wearing his helmet or kind of is working off to the side. Well, the rest of the teams get started.

If he was, I was kind of, even before this all happened, I would joke with other reporters that it was kind of like he was doing like load management sort of thing, which is obviously something we mostly contribute to NBA players, but it is something with Hopkins. And so, you know, that maybe was a, cause of frustration for O'Brien and certainly there have been other chatter about other things that he's been frustrated about from Michael Irvin or otherwise. So I think that played a role.

I don't think that the idea that it played no role is true. But I do think the contract also did play somewhat of a role. You know, he was underpaid kind of relative to his market value, which is normal in the NFL, the market always shifts, right? But he wanted more money, and the Texans didn't really feel like they weren't positioned to give it to him, in part because, you know, they got to pay Laramieie Consell and they got to pay to Sean Watson, and they have some other deals they've already done with Camie Fairburn or Whitney Merciless, whatever, and it just didn't fit into their, you know,

their finances. And you could argue that alone is kind of silly, but it getting in the way of O'Brien's personal relationship combined with that, I think it just all results in the situation we're seeing now. Aaron Rees covers the Texans for the Athletic. Aaron J. Reese on Twitter, R-E-I-S-S. He's got a lot of great articles up there, and the athletic is now opening up for, what, 90 days in a row for free subscriptions, kind of get people through this, right? Is that accurate? Yeah, that is the idea. So no one has any excuse now. I'll tell at least give it a chance and

see what's going on. So Ross and I debated this a little bit yesterday. If he wanted to be, he wanted a bump in salary, and if the reports are accurate, you take the three years left in his contract, the bump that he wanted, we're looking at about $10 million over three years overall added to his salary. Would that have been too much for the Texans to overcome if they were going to sign Tunsell to a big deal, if they were going to sign to Sean a new deal, would adding $10 million over three years crippled the organization? Because my conjecture on that is the answer is no, but you follow the salary cap much tighter than I do. You tell me what $10 million in additional money to the number one or number two or number

three receiver in the NFL would have done to the Texan salary cap? Yeah, you know, I don't think it necessarily would have crippled them because, you know, people say it all the time with the NFL, right? The cap always goes up, and it's part of the reason that he felt like he was underpaid. It's because the market always shifts. You sign him now in two years probably. It's not that bad of a deal. I mean, but it also has to go into the calculation of did the Texans feel like they were going to be paying him for future production or past performance?

And if they felt like he was on the decline, which I would argue he's not used the stats that would say he are in terms of his yardage, you could also look at his average depth of target was shorter, which is a function of play calling, not necessarily the receiver. But if they felt that he was on a decline, which they have kind of other advanced metrics they can look at in terms of his speed and stuff, then maybe they didn't feel comfortable paying that. But in terms of just it fitting into their cap sheet and stuff,

it would work, but it would probably be tight. And that is, you know, I wrote some about this. It's kind of like O'Brien is fixing his old problems by creating new ones. Like it's a tight financial situation because he, you know, is going to have to pay up for Laramie Tunsel, who he paid an unprecedented price for and didn't agree to a contract extension of it,

before and has all the leverage in the world to become, you know, the highest paid left tackle. He's going to sign Sean Watson, maybe the richest quarterback contract, and he wants to sign Jack Cunningham to a new deal. And, you know, there's all these sorts of things that I think, especially if the guy is a first-time GM, it's at least very skeptical, he's going to be able to balance kind of all of those priorities. And, but beyond all that, I mean, the thing is even if, even if it would be tough, it's hard just, hard to defend up Brian when he's spending so much money on running backs. I mean, he's taking on all that David Johnson's salary. And, you know, if you just take Duke Johnson and David Johnson, their combined shares of the

salary cap at 7.7% for 2020. That is a larger share of the salary cap than the Titans are going to spend on Derek Henry. And obviously, it's two guys instead of one. But I think that alone kind of says everything you need to know about how, like, imbalanced and inefficient the sort of team building is in this regard. Do you think other teams, this is strictly opinion, are other teams like, I can't wait to call Bill O'Brien off or up a trade because so far in the two trades he has made, he's been fleeced twice. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think you'd have to imagine that no team would give him a fair deal to start with, right?

You know, I feel like I follow the NBA for a amount to always talk about how Dale Moore, he's always kind of offering these low deals just to see if he can get away with it. And that's kind of his baseline where he starts. Like, I really was kind of the same thing. I was another GM calling O'Brien. I would start with something just totally outlandish with Steve he took it. You know, like, because a lot of people say, like, maybe a mid-round pick would have been what the Texans should have gotten or really.

turn just for taking on the David Johnson salary. They got a second round pick, but they obviously gave him with DeAndre Hopkins. The people that attach values to all those picks and all those things, it doesn't even come close to adding up. It does not at all. Let me ask you also the report that Ed Warder put on on tweeting. And this is somebody within the Texans feeding him this information. And I think Ed described it as such.

He says this was the best deal that was offered. I don't believe that. Is that because teams just know that they can go after Bill O'Brien for little stuff? you think that they just the first time somebody offered up a deal, they said, okay, it sounds good, we'll take it. You know, I think since we knew that they kind of were targeting David Johnson, that does make me kind of question, you know, how much they really looked around or if they were really focused in on David Johnson, which would not be surprised me because if you look at

this O'Brien's pattern, he clearly places a much higher value on running backs than the rest of the league is than kind of the analytical movement of football is because he traded for Duke Johnson. and he traded for Carlos Hyde. So I wouldn't be surprised if he kind of was zeroed in on the idea of getting this guy because he thought he'd be a bounce-back candidate, and that's why he wanted to trade with the Cardinals. And it probably also is worth wondering, you know,

if Hopkins won a new deal, which he definitely did, then that probably did limit his market some in terms of what teams wanted to trade for him. Because, you know, Stefan Diggs obviously got a much greater return for the Vikings, but he also was on a pretty friendly deal, and at least I've seen that there's no talk of him wanting a new contract. The flip side to that, though, is that Stefan Diggs was quite publicly like a bit of a divo receiver and had

kind of moments of being a distraction to his team. At least publicly, DeAndre Hopkins never had that and was a better player and only a year older. So, you know, how all the things balanced out? I don't know. I am skeptical, though, just in comparison of the Diggs deal, that that was the absolute best deal he could have gotten. I think

the Hopkins won a new deal combined with kind of O'Brien's defatuation for David Johnson, all played into this venture going to where it was. All right. Last question. for Aaron Reese from the athletic. Aaron, if David Johnson fails his physical, how will the Cardinals make this right?

Because there's no way that DeAndre is coming back to Houston. Yeah, no, no way at all. I don't know. I mean, I guess they'd have to, maybe this time the Texans to get a first-round pick instead or something. But I listen to some people talk about, like I think one of the Cardinals have, like, the eighth pick or something. And so what I said, you know,

the Texan got the eighth pick, like, and maybe like a little bit something else. Like, you don't necessarily hate that deal because it's such a deep, wide receiver class, and maybe you recoup some cheap talent, and you have built some draft capital up. You don't pay Hopkins into his 30s at a very high price. But, yeah, I don't know. I think the failed physical is like whatever he fans do to be praying for. I will leave it that.

Aaron J. Reese, read his stuff on the Texans on the Athletic. It is free for the next 90 days. I would highly, highly recommend that. Aaron, thanks for the time, and we will bug you because, frankly, you're going to be giving us good information in news and we're going to call you a bunch. So thank you for the time, as always, friend. Yeah, stay safe.

You got it, Aaron J. Reese on Twitter. if you want to follow him for all things Houston, Texan. This is Craig Ackerman. And the Rockets get the job done. Oh, here's another new catchphrase I have for you. Good gracious! Good gracious! You're listening to the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 790.

One of the things that has been affected by the coronavirus on this show is the, believe it or not, game. And that's because our offices on the third floor, we're on the fifth, have been closed. Yeah. So people can't pick up their breath. We can't pick up prizes and we can't give away concerts and we don't know when they're going to be. We can do it for shoutouts like we used to do. I don't know. You want to do that?

Or you can do it for a prize. You'll mail them. No, I can't. Like a signed Matt Thomas 8 by 10. That's a valuable prize. It says, it'll say follow SportsMT. Yeah. I haven't checked Twitter.

I can print up some more unfollow sports and T shirts. No, they're worth of 10,000 Twitter 4. I'm into 25,0. Wow. So 49. 49 away from the magical 30,000. Good for you.

I am 411 away from 10,000. We'll have a little party for that. I don't want a party. We'll do a happy hour. Any happy hour. You want to do nothing. How about pomp and circumstance? How about some balloons?

No, we don't need anything. I don't want to make it about me, man. Which is like a cookie cake or something? No. I don't like cookie. I think cookie cakes are overrated. I don't think they're great. I totally 100% agree with you.

I'd rather just have a cookie. I got something for you, too. Sometimes they're too, like, they're too... They don't taste fresh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got something for you, too. I am not a... I don't have a super sweet tooth.

I do. If you just made me a Duncan Hines cake with a very, very thin layer of icing. I mean, barely like... Like the cake mix you get from Walmart or whatever? Yeah, you can do me, you could do a... You could do something out of a... I'd rather have that than a fancy cake.

Really? Absolutely. Absolutely. Like the fancy cakes you see grocery stores? Like the HVs got really good cakes. They do, but it's too much. There's too much. It's too much. Just make me a plain white or yellow cake with a little bit of black chocolate frost. I mean, very thin layer.

Okay. I don't like a ton of. Like, if you get the cupcakes up here, I throw the icing off into the trash. Yeah, if you were to watch me go to the last 20 birthday parties I went to. Yes. You would say, you would hear me say, give me a middle piece because the always the edges have more. frosting the other. I'm just not a big frosting person. Okay. I can actually have a cake with just eating the cake part. No frosting. But that would seem a little bit weird. No frosting? The only

frosting I like is a good carrot cake with some cream cheese nut frosting. What about a red velvet with some cream cheese? Nope. Oh, red velvet with cream cheese frosting. Have we ever done best cakes? I don't know. By the way, we got the return of the fantasy five tomorrow. We do? Oh, are you doing worst 90s hits? We're doing worst 90s hits? Number one hits. Yes. And for those of you don't know, we started this, we did it last month, and we'll do them about every four or five weeks. If I won the last two, at least

the last two fantasy fives. We did worst number one songs of the 80s. So tomorrow, Ross and I will come up with a list of any song between 1990 and 1999. Yeah. That was number one on the Billboard 100 list. Like was a, not on top six, a number one, any

week of the year. There's some bad ones. And there, and look, I think the 90s. The early 90s is bad. I think it turned around like the middle of the 90s. I'm dreading when you all get to the 2000s. Let me get, oh, let me say 87 to 93 is a dark time in music. Yeah, around there.

It got weird. It got really weird. So tomorrow, Ross and I will do worst songs that were number one hits in the 1990s. And Nick, 2000s are going to be god awful. Oh, yeah. 2010s aren't going to be real sweet either, be honest with you. I don't know about that I'm looking at some of these

some of these are actually really good well then thus you won't be picking them man I'll make love to you boys to men now that's a that's a banger as the kids say Matt yeah is that what the kids say banger it's a banger they call that a wet bucket a wet jumper wet jumper

Brian on 790 at 152 hi Brian hey what's going on Matt hey I just thought I'd let you guys in on it I know the real scoop I know what really happened between DeAndre Hoffman's and Billowbone hit. What happened was, man, well, DeAndre kept showing up before everybody else, and Bill O'Brien finally figured out that his parking space was 27, six inches closer than

his to the locker room door. And when DeAndre didn't want to give up the space, he said, okay, you can go park your ride in Arizona. And I broke it here, buddy, you can let it go, man. I don't have social media, so I can't release it. But that's what happened. Anyway, seriously, folks Well, I can't figure it out, Matt

Are you here? Oh, hey, how, how, why have we Have we heard anything from the owner of this circus at all? No. As far as I know, we haven't heard of peep out of the guy. If I own a billion-dollar company and this kind of shake-up happens,

I mean, the president would be addressing the country. You think that he would say something to all the people that pay, you know, for him to have this team. I mean, buy tickets, watch him on TV. You know, you think he would have something to say. And as far as I know, he hasn't, I haven't heard of peep out of him. Have you?

Nope. It just seems kind of strange to me, but. Not, no, actually, Brian, Brian, it doesn't seem strange to you. He has spoken two times. One, on the official radio station of their team in a prepared statement. He wasn't even organic in that. And two, he was in front of a bunch of people at some awards ceremony downtown. That's it.

That's it. That's it. Nothing about the time. team, nothing about the state of the union, nothing about how he came in his decision, nothing. Zilch, he says nothing. Nothing at all. He's

freaking he-ha says nothing at all except he-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-ha. Now you're getting me started, Brian, on he-ha. Boop-loop-lup-lup-bh-h-h-h-h-h-ha. Oh, man. Now, I was going to try to stay away from he-ha, but I just can't. So no, when people say, where's, where's Cal?

Cal's always where he is. Is there another owner like that in sports and we just don't know because we live in Houston? Hold on. Oh, go ahead, Matt. Welcome to He-Haw starring Buck Owens and Roy Clark. Okay, let's go back to your previous question. Is there anybody in sports ownership-wise that speaks less than he did? Lest never spoke, very rarely spoke as a rocket's owner.

But he was always seen. And by his actions, you knew he was very vested. Would that be true to say? Yes. I say, I don't fall out of owners. I mean, I don't know if the Ford family was overly active. Jim Crane talks a number of times a year. Tillman talks all the time, maybe a little too much.

Let's go over the last 20 years of ownership. 30 years of Houston Sports ownership Drayton would speak every now and then Bud would speak Now granted again He was probably told

not to speak as often John McMullen I don't know I wasn't covering sports at the time so I can't tell you his actions were a lot of than his words frankly

by not resigning Nolan Ryan Who else Charlie Thomas I don't know if he was much of a speaker again this was before my time Robert C. McNair would speak now and then. Bob McNair would speak now. The only thing criticism that Robert would, Bob McNair would have,

would be because he would only speak when they won. You couldn't get him when they lost. And he would do confusing folksy sayings, like get in there with the ox. Yeah, which made no sense based on the conversation. Or prisoners running the asylum, which also landed in. He said inmates running the prison, which was a poor choice of words. And that was in private, though. but at least you had a feeling of

and I guess it's not necessarily about what you say and how many press coverage you hold it's you have a you understand what the owner wants I don't have any understanding of what Cal wants and we'll never will because let me tell you maybe Janice McNair Bob's wife Cal's a dad mom maybe they shut the door off and said Cal

shut up we can't put you out in public Why? Cal says, He, he, ho, that's not nice, Matthew.

Oh, geez. You're not helping, Nick. You're not helping at all. Cal, you get to run the team. Just don't say anything.

That has to be it, Ross. And have a fantastic mustache. This is the Matt Thomas show. All right, let's go to the headlines of the day because there's quite a few. First and foremost, the NBA announcing that players are allowed to leave the cities in which they're currently in. They'd like for them to stay in the cities in which they play.

But they are also being told that team facilities are no longer open for their individual workouts. The rockets have had workouts as the rest of the NBA teams have to keep guys fresh. those facilities are being closed. That's headline number one. The Denver Nuggets announcing a member of their staff. Does not say player coach. Organization is what they're calling. Yeah, so it could be a ticket person for all right.

Has tested positive for the coronavirus. Could be a play-by-play man. It very well could be. As I said before last hour, Ross, I feel like when we start traveling again, we're going to be under new rules, at least for a while. Temperatures, swab, something. I don't know.

But it feels like the normal walk-on-plane, get-on-plane, leave on and arrive for either commercial or for that matter, private air travel is going to be a lot different. Yeah, we're going to live in a post-coronavirus world and it's going to be different. I wonder how many different ways. I think, and this is just a pure guess, this is just a human being's guess here, that they're going to ask you to be at airports two hours prior to departure. They ask you to do that anyways, but I ignore those wishes. I'm usually there about an hour. You should be there 90 minutes to just make your mentally... But I think they're going to start doing swab, temperature checks, something.

If your flight is still at 405, they're going to start calling your names at 205. And if you're not there by 230, you're not going to get on the plane. That's just pure conjecture of my part. I have no information. But doesn't that seem like that would be... Because what they don't want is they don't want to put 150 people on the plane with one person. having the fever or any sort of symptoms of the coronavirus, for that matter, any virus or any kind of flu symptoms. And that's how you protect, the airlines protect themselves from mass, you know, a push of this is by saying,

all right, if you're not, it's like when you fly internationally. I don't fly internationally. But don't you have to be there a certain amount of time to have your passport check? You're supposed to be there even earlier, yeah. Couldn't you guys see that? 405 flight. You're not at the airport by 205 to go through. roll call to get yourself swab checked temperature.

Maybe. That if you're not there by say 23. The lid, 235, it's like 90 minutes prior, that your seat is canceled on the flight. What if you're on a fancy Matt private jet? All my guess is you'll do the same sort of thing. You'll swabby on the way in. They'll swabby. You're not going to have the time primators.

I mean, even then, though, I mean, the swabbing, it takes a couple of days to find out if you're positive. I'm just using a metaphorical term. That would be a swatby. But do you then hire? nurses for every gate. You know, I have a ticket person takes your ticket.

You then have the nurse that... What's the nurse going to do? Put the thermometer in your mouth? They might take a swab so they can track. I think they can do your... They can do the temporal scanning for your... For your temperature. They don't need to jam something in your mouth.

Can't they get that big machine to test for this thing somehow? The one that you have to get scanned through? Can it take your body temperature? Now, that's technology right there. Hmm Do you have anything illegal in your pockets? And what's your temperature?

That'd be actually pretty funny, actually. They always have to scan my hair. They always have to pat down my hair after I get out of there. There's nothing worse than going through that machine. And there said, you get anything back in your pockets? And I go, no. And I like, oh, I forgot my wallet's in there. For both security and the health of all people involved,

mandatory prostate exams before. No. Okay. We're not talking about things you're dreaming about. I'm not talking about the little... Your guilty pleasures. Your little video. sessions you look at when you get home.

Frosty. Chicks. All right, anyways. Okay, so that's the news. Denver, member of the organization, NBA players have been told UIL has suspended all sporting events until May the 4th, which I'm trying to figure out here would be if you're

in high school, athletics at the time of year, baseball and probably track and field, the only two sports swimming. Swimming that may be allowed eventually back. Getting the pool with a bunch of people coughing and sneezing in that thing. Oh, I guess it's got chlorine in it. Yeah.

Well, I think pools will be... Maybe the pool's okay. I think pool might be a safer place. Maybe we should all just live in pools. Yeah, then we'd shrink, though. Oh, that's true. Shrinkage. Significant, like, if you...

Prolong shrinkage. But am I right about that? Is there anything else that the spring sports would do? I don't know. Soccer's played in the fall, volleyball. Powerlifting would be done. Nobody does powerlifting in high school. My friend is a powerlifting coach, so that's why I had it out of mind.

He is not? Yes, he is. In high school? Yeah. They have powerlifting in high school? I've never heard of that before. Shout up, Brad. What's up, Brad?

Thanks for listening. Is he listening to show? Yeah, he does. He listens more of your dad, doesn't he? Well, most people do. That's true. All right. And his chuckles is done.

And, yeah, really. Anything else in terms of headline? Oh, let's go through some of the sound bites from earlier today. Okay. Brian Billig was a guest on the, you know, former Baltimore Ravens coach. Oh, the guy who was supposed to be an offensive genius from the 1990. Vikings and then had the defense carry him to a Super Bowl and then he was terrible after that. And they never worked again.

But I like him. He's good on there. NFL network. Brian Billick, was he in the trenches guest or a Sean Salisberg? Yeah, he was on in the trenches. Okay. That's a good get for the... Why are they getting guests like that?

I don't know. Gordy called somebody. Oh, Gordy booking the show. Of course. Now that he's on the show. Imagine Gordy booking a show with a good guest for the show that he's on. Hand on chin emoji. No comment.

I have plenty of comments. Come on, Gordy. I know you're listening. Start booking some other people. Start spreading the world for other shows. I will sit in silence. I will not. I will say it right now, Gordy needs to do a better job. I'm a book and show guest for other shows besides his. We're going to have the lovely and talent and Kaylee Griffin coming up in 25 minutes. Yeah, you're booking like a mudd up. Man booking like a mudd. People know Matt Thomas.

All right. Let's get to Brian Billick on whether or not an organization in the NFL can be successful when you have both a general manager and coach being the same person. Obviously, there's a lot of different ways, a lot of different moms. models in the NFL. For the most part, there seems to be the general model, which is a consortium of head coach, general manager, head of personnel, however you want to put it, wherever that authority lies. And then there's kind of the New England prototype, which is obviously unique to Bill Belichick. And now looks like Bill O'Brien's kind of got the same thing going on in Houston. And that's not to say one is good and one is bad. It just is. Consolidating that singular vision is not a bad. But obviously what it does do is magnify every decision, not just as a coach now, but also as a general manager, you're not going to be held accountable or critique on the, you know, thousand plus offensive calls, thousand plus defensive calls, special teams. But now every move, whether it's free agency or the draft, that that leaves a pretty wide palette for someone to be second guest. And Ross, when you eliminate a general manager, a head coach has to answer to only one person and be criticized and asked, what are you doing by one person? Who is that one person with the Houston Texans? Nobody?

Bill O'Brien? Are you mean? Yeah. Who does Bill O'Brien have to answer to? Nobody. That's exactly right. Bill O'Brien answers to Bill O'Brien. Because Cal is, what's Cal doing?

What do you think Cal's doing right now at 209? I'm not 100% sure he's alive. Now, he's alive. Well, it's not getting, it's not getting crazy now. Yeah. You're on segment suspension. Turn your microphone off. Has he don't seen a body?

You've been suspended from the segment like three times. Yeah. What is Cal doing right now? He is playing, he's playing bejeweled on his phone. And he's not doing that well. Or has his wife have him doing honeydews around the house? Like what?

Can you pull up, can you go up in the attic and get these pictures of something? I got one. he's YouTubeing how to tie a tie so he can finally figure it out. No, he tells me, you don't think he puts a clip on on, do you? I think his mom ties it for him. Brian Billick also in the trenches today says the checks and balances are now gone with the Texans. Check and balance.

You know, you talk about the two forms of an organization. You know, when you have the singular titular head that's the end-all be-all, that's great for, you know, because it's consistency and there's a singular vision. But you do need checks and balance. whether it's the assistant coaches, whether it's the GM, whether it's the equipment guy, whether it's somebody in the training room to kind of balance that because as a head coach or as an offensive coordinator or he's not as a position coach. You're not going to get along with everybody.

You don't develop a ready relationship with everybody. You have to have a professional relationship, but it may not be a close one. So yes, you do have to have an avenue for the players. For whatever reason, maybe don't get along with the head coach or get along with the offensive coordinator, that that doesn't preclude them from being productive because there's some other place in the organization that that player can kind of get a sympathetic year and kind of vent whatever it is that he wants to vet. Brian Billick is right, Ross.

But the things he wants and the things that good teams have are not in place here. Yeah. Like Shanahan and Lynch in San Francisco, I get the feeling because they hug each other a lot and they were at press conferences a lot and they worked together well that they actually have a decent relationship. We haven't had a good relationship between owner and between general manager and coach

probably since the day that Rick Smith was personally chosen by Gary Kubiak. Yeah, they got along all right. Yeah, because Gary picked him. They're boys. That's when you're, that's, and now they're Patriots South.

That's when they were Denver Southeast. That's true. All right. Our friend Joan said, and I think we knew this already, but just for clarification purposes, you have to, for a coronavirus, you have to use a swab of the nose and the throat. The only way the swab would work is if with instant results like they do with the strep throat. You're like, you ever get chest of a strep throat? Not in a while. I probably do once a year, and it takes, you know, two, three minutes.

Okay. So maybe if. They're probably developing something. If the medicine, if the technology, if the whatever is being developed can do it, I bet you, we, look, we go to airports. That'd be great. If every single person could have a test, that'd be huge. But who pays for it?

The airline pays for that. Who ultimately would pass it on to you? I don't think they're going to test everybody. I don't think they would do it that way. They should need to come with commercially available for a couple of bucks. You can go find one. I mean, obviously it's easier said and done. Just have one so everybody can have one.

But how can this coronavirus just go away eventually? I don't think it'll ever completely go away. I think you're just trying to slow it down. Will it be as common as the flu or as uncommon? I don't know. I remember early on I was reading how it could possibly come back every season like the flu, but then you'd be prepared for it. The reason it's such a big deal right now is because you're not prepared for it.

You don't have all the extra beds. There's no vaccine. And eventually a vaccine will be developed and it would be similar to maybe the flu that comes back all the time. We have breaking news from Greg Abbott, the governor of our state. Uh-oh. Yes, Nick. Every person in Texas. shall avoid social gatherings and groups of more than 10.

Number two, people shall avoid eating or drinking at bars, restaurants, and food courts, or visiting gyms. Provided, however, and this is very important, that the use of drive-through, pickup, or delivery options is allowed, and in fact highly encouraged throughout the limited duration of this executive order. Long story short, the executive order closes all restaurants and bars statewide. Oh, so they were just Harris County for a while. This is statewide now.

Was Dallas allowing restaurants and stuff? I think they'd stopped. The big city, the major city, I don't know about San Antonio, but I know Dallas and Houston had stopped restaurant and also. Last night in Montgomery County, so the woodlands, they still allowed dining in a limited basis, only up to 50 people in the building at once. They shut that down this morning,

and now the entire state has shut up restaurants down. Because I know a couple of the big city wing locations were outside of the Harris County area. Now they have to shut down. Okay. Or at least carry out only. And that starts immediately, I'm assuming? I guess so. It seems that way.

So drive-thrus is all you got now. No social gatherings, no going out. And I guess delivery. I don't think you said anything about delivery. I think delivery should be fine. Yeah, delivery's fine. I went to a... Somebody got an alert.

You got an email? No, that was Matt. Matt's computer got an email. Did it really? Let me look. All right. Let's take a break. No, I did not.

It's yours. Sorry. 221 on Sports Talk 790. It is the Matt Thomas show with Ross and Nick. I'm Matt. This is our last segment for taking anybody that wants to join in the phones. And if you'd like to do that before we say how to our good friend, Kaylee Griffin from AT&T Sportsnet, anything is open at this exact moment at 713-212-5-790.

7-13-212-5-790. if you just want to call the show and just yell on the mic and the phone that you're mad that Bill O'Brien has bungled up another situation with the Texans. How does he go out in all honesty, Ross, how does he go out in public and get cheered anywhere? Bill O'Brien? Yeah. I don't think he's going to be cheered. Luckily for him, there's a lot of social distancing going on right now.

That's true. He doesn't worry about going out and speaking to civic groups or talking to season ticket holders. Because I feel like, now again, Texans can. Karen doesn't care because she loves the Texans. She's loyal to the matter of way. She doesn't care. But I'm talking some regular old fans that don't have Texans in their moniker or don't go on to city halls in different cities. They're not happy, right?

They're calling and they're leaving terrible messages on Twitter. They are leaving terrible emails. They're sending terrible emails. They're calling the reception of the Texans and saying, I'm dropping my tickets. None, they're really not doing that. But at least they're saying that to make the impression that they're really mad about what Bill O'Brien's done to this organization. Some of them are. I wonder how many of them are really doing that, though.

I wonder how much of an impact this is really going to have. Like, what's the number? What's the number of Texans fans that are so irate that they're done? 2,500? Define done. Let me, okay, anybody that has been that has more than one Texan shirt, that goes to at least a game a year, that includes these and ticket holders,

or people that have their man caves all set up for Sundays at 12 noon, typically. I think the vast majority of those people, it's going to be business as usual come September if games are still, if games are going. You're going to turn a TV on, you're going to watch it, you're going to be excited, you're going to be tailgating, you're going to have your beer.

I don't think this is going to long-term change the behavior of a lot of people. I really don't. I would agree with you. I think it'll be a drop in the bucket the amount of people who really actually quit and give up their tickets. Like, we have some diehards that call the show. Yeah. I guarantee you, and I'm not going to mention it by name because they know who they are.

But my guess is if you and I go out to Texan's practice in July, provided they have open practices, we'll see those people. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. They're mad. They're mad right now. Nothing else to chew on, so to speak. Right. And I honestly don't blame them.

Fan loyalty, I mean, because we crush people who. who hop off and on bandwagons all the time, right? If somebody goes and they say all of a sudden they were all in on the Texans and you see them this season and they're rather than Saints, Kathy, or Texans Kathy, they're Saints Kathy. You say, hey, what's going on? Oh, look at you, you, you bandwagon jumper. You're not a fan.

You don't have any loyalty. And you get, you would, it's our natural reaction to chastise people who do that. You're also going to have the draft when now that they have a second round pick, they're going to pick up some might probably a receiver, I would guess, at this point. And then optimism will be once again raised. Lee, Medical Center on the Matt Thomas show, Lee, good afternoon. Good afternoon, Matt. How are you doing today? Good friend. What's going on?

Matt, you know, I have to say, I've listened to your show for a long time, and I've listened to 610 as well, because they're the home of the Texans. And I will say that, Matt, I 100%, even when you're wrong, I mean, we've had discussions before, and you've been wrong, but I have always respected your, opinion because you give an honest and usually unbiased opinion of what is going on, even when it pertains to something that may be going on at your station itself. I'll take that as a compliment. Thank you. Now, look, we all are biases, Lee. We just do. So anybody that says they don't have a bias towards something is just lying to. But continue on, please.

Well, what I'll say is I will say that. right. Everyone does have a vice. But Matt, you always call a spade a spade. I've never seen you try to say that something is good when it's not. And I've never seen you say, you know, something is, you know, bad when it's, when it's not. And for those guys on 610 to try to put sugar on this pile of stuff, that is, that I've lost total respect. I can't even remember the guy. There's two guys that were on yesterday, I think, And one of the guys was calling it correct. He was saying that this move was bad. And there was another guy that was drinking the Kool-Aid, I'll say.

And he was saying, well, if you look at it, Hocken, his yard he's down, and he's on the decline. And he's, you know, this is actually a good trade. I think it's a good idea. Man, I totally lose respect. And I think this part of what's wrong with the country is like, if something is bad, just say it's bad. Give me their information and be honest with us as a general public.

Be honest with yourself. But don't go on and tow the corporate line and say something is good when you, in your right mind, know that it's not. I mean, people just, people like me lose respect for people when they hear, you know, talk show hosts on the radio. And I know, you know, there's a partnership with them over there so they, you know, they can't report everything negative. And honestly, we're accused of the same thing when it comes to the Rockets and Astros. but look, we have absolutely destroyed the Astros over their cheating situation. So anybody that says that we've treated them with kid gloves on the Astros is ridiculous. And that's why we respect you.

That's why we respect you guys. And when James Harden doesn't play well, this show tells you James Hardin does not play well. And we've never hidden from that. So do I root harder for the Rockets and Astros undue for the Texans? Absolutely. And I don't hide that. But when something's not right, you have to kind of say it's not right. and you do it in a respectful way.

You don't take nasty jabs, except for the fact that Bill O'Brien's a nasty person, doesn't treat people well, and I have zero respect for him, so I'm not going to give him any respect. Zero. I have zero respect for him. I just want to call you to say, man, I really respect you, and I have lost total respect for 610 radio host as a whole. There's a couple of guys over there. I will say they are calling it as they see it, but there are some guys that are just ridiculous. It's refreshing to hear your voice and thoughts, you know, people like you on the radio.

I hope you guys continue. I appreciate it. I always your debate when you come in. Sometimes I, I don't agree on things, but it's always a decent debate. Jerry and Dominique, Kang Tight, will get to you. We've got a new segment we're starting. People we miss hearing from. And our first guest is going to be Kaylee Griffin from AT&T Sportsnet. She joins us next. Okay, and remember, you can't call my show for six months. Rossi, the production value of this show is second to none. It's just fantastic, man. This young lady is new to the Houston sports scene,

and she has given me, when we used to all travel together when there were games, religious and healthy amounts of grief about what am I ever going to be on the Matt Thomas show? The streak has ended. Kaylee Griffin. Seriously. I mean, it's about time, honestly, Matt. I mean, we talked about this. You said I could come on in March, once March Madness happened. RIP, that's supposed to be happening today. But regardless, you followed through and you kept your promise. So I'm very appreciative. Well, first of all, thanks for joining the show. And you are the first guest on what will be a twice weekly feature called People We Miss Hearing from.

So what are you doing? You've lived in Houston six months. You don't. You don't. You've lived in Houston six months. know anybody here in theory and you can't see you them you can't go to restaurants is your mom cooking a bunch of meals for you right now well you know what she actually was in town just last week so thankfully she got out fine but she did cook me a bunch of meals so i have all the food i need right now um here you know i want to take out from places i want to help the local businesses so give me people give me ideas let me know i'm not for a wallcreated if they need to getting into my apartment. It's beautiful.

Beautiful day. I've got a little walking past here by apartment. But I'm going to go, I'm going a little scary now. I'm not going to lie. All right. Well, that's why we're going to take 10 minutes out of your time. Let's tell the folks, you've got a background. You went to school in the Northeast.

Your NBA experience was with the San Antonio Spurs and the Cleveland Cavaliers. Now you're with us in the first season. Without giving away too many inside secrets, what is it like covering this team as compared to the previous two that you've worked with? Oh, I mean, I've loved every second of it. This is my first time working as a sideline reporter on all the broadcast, so all my other positions kind of allowed me to get different experience. I was a digital reporter in San Antonio.

I worked as a host and reporter with Foxwoods, Ohio, and the cows. It was my first time working on all the broadcasts. So it's my first time traveling with the team fully. I've had a lot of different responsibilities of hosting Rockets All Access on 18T's Foresnet. And so who's fulfilling? on some Astros for Julian and Morales as well. So it's going to go a whole load of different opportunities and along more responsibilities.

I've loved ever spoken of it and cannot wait to get back to it. How weird was it to do the sideline reporting duties and talk with those guys for that one or two game stretch where we had to stay like six feet away from them? Yeah, so there was that one game. It was Wednesday, last Wednesday, we were playing home to play. What did we play? I can't even remember who we played.

Minnesota? Yeah, Minnesota. Yeah, Minnesota. So that was, it was really interesting because that was the last day before all of these new rules were implemented. And we were kind of trying to figure out how we go about this. And so I had to do the boom mic to do any interviews. We got rid of our walk-off on the court just because we were so close to the players and the coaches when we do them because it's so loud. So that made it really interesting

and made it for a couple of challenges But we kind of It's funny because we poked fun at the idea of it But obviously so much had come out sense Of how important it was to even implement that On that one day, you know, as we've seen all these cases Continuing to come out in the week we get around sports But it was a really interesting day

Seeing how all the steps were for these coach press conferences And range quite a lot in press conference standpoint But obviously the NB has done a tremendous this job, taking the appropriate steps to be cautious and take care of their players, their staff, the personnel, et cetera, et cetera. So it was definitely an interesting game, obviously good for the Rockets to end on the high note, but we are still kind of navigating this unknown right now. Visiting with Kaylee Griffin, the silent reporter for the Astros or for the Rockets, you'll see her on some Astros broadcast once the season resumes there with AT&T Sportsnet with us here

on Sports Talk 790. Kaley, let me ask you, forgetting about your job. You've been a sports fan. grew around sports all your life. You played a little bit of basketball back in the day. Are you like me? Do you look at Twitter like 15 times an hour to see something encouraging about the resumption of play? Because I think half the tweets I see make me think there's not going to be a season and then half of them give me hope. Do you kind of go through the same thing that I'm going through right now? 100%. I find myself on Twitter almost nonstop. I have World's Notification, Sam's Notifications, the following Rachel Nichols, when I saw that she was going to have Adam Silver on Sports Center last night.

I was obviously glued to my TV just to see any updates that we might have on the league. Obviously, the new updates just came out a few minutes ago that they're kind of shutting down team facilities for the time being. So I think that's a little discouraging in terms of how we see this proceed from a season standpoint. But the NBA has been at the forefront of making the moves to protect the players, which kind of spiraled into all of these other professional leagues, the SSWLA, making the move to end their seasons or suspend them in the time being. And I think that shows a lot of where this league is the progressive movement of them

and the leadership of Adam Silver. But obviously you can see from all the updates that we continue to get from him that they're still trying to find ways to make things work out. And that's also really promising because if any league is going to find a way to get back in action and do it the right way, it's going to be the NBA. I don't know if you're privy to this or not. if you've met with your AT&T folks, if we get basketball back and they do them in, say, smaller venues without crowds for a while, has AT&T and maybe your fellow sign-in reporters around the NBA,

your friends, have you all talked about ways to broadcast the game that would kind of not only give you the game, but maybe some behind-the-scenes stuff that you normally wouldn't get because you're not worried about having to fight through equipment and fans? I'm just talking off the top of my head here, but I'm thinking, you know, What could we get that would be an unintended benefit of having intimate settings for these basketball games? Yeah, we haven't gone into the specifics of it yet, but obviously if they are played at smaller venues and without fans, they are going to be broadcasted, so that would bring back our roles in a new sense. And I think that would allow us to probably have a little more advantage and a little more ability to do some of that behind-the-scenes stuff. We haven't gotten into the details yet, of course, because we're just kind of trying to figure out on a day-day basis, like,

what happens next week, what happens in a month, you know. So I think those will be discussions as we get closer to finding out if the season is going to resume, if that is the pace where we play without fans. Do we have the ability to do more of that? We haven't gotten into those discussions quite yet, but I expect that that would be definitely one of the main discussions we would be having. Kaylee Griffin, AT&T Sportsnet with us here on the radio program. So as a girl that grew up in the Northeast and worked in Cleveland most recently,

Give me, for the audience, one or two things in a New Houstonian that you enjoy about our city so far? Well, right now, I enjoy the weather, although everyone tells me that I should enjoy it right now because I'm not going to enjoy it soon. I'm loving that it's March, and I feel like I can go outside, enjoy the fresh air right now when I can just get a break, sit out on my little deck and take that in. So that's been great. And honestly, from a work standpoint, the fans have been amazing. here in Houston to me, welcome me into the community, making me feel a part of the family here in Houston in terms of being part of this Rockets group. Everyone has been so kind and welcoming and encouraging to me, so I'm very appreciative of that.

Last question. People ask me this all the time. I say, Matt, who are the people that influence you in your life in terms of your career? Sondon reporting has taken it to a new level in the last 20 or 30 years. Are there one or two on the list of I want to meet her? I've met her when I was a young girl, I wanted to be hers. Is there somebody that's on that list for you or a couple people? Yeah, I mean, obviously, number one, most people who know me know that I am Doris Brooks number one fan. She's amazing. She went to Providence where I went as well, so she's been a role model for me since I started

realizing that I wanted to get into the industry. I've met her quite a few times. She's been somebody that I can go to to reach out to just for basic questions on the industry, but also someone who has given me a lot of advice. I love when we cross-pass with her on the road. She's amazing. And then I work really closely with this woman named Jill Montgomery. She works for ESPN as a broadcaster.

She did their Super Tuesday packages for a while. She does just track and field right now, but she also works as a broadcast coach. And she has been so influential to me in terms of becoming a better broadcaster. I worked with her extensively. And just taking the time to go through my clips and how I can do things better. Can I slow down? I talk so fast. So she's constantly on me to slow down how I can ask questions.

better. She's been just incredible. I mean, there's so many. The sisterhood, I guess, you could call it, of the sideline reporters in the NBA. They're all incredible. They're so supportive. But those two in particular have been a huge influence on me. Well, Kaylee, it has been way too long since the invite came out, but I'm glad you were able to accept.

You are the very first person on our semi-weekly event of people we miss hearing from. And we're going to get you back on once the season begins. I just hope it's a lot sooner rather than later. Thanks for the time. welcome to Houston. It is a pleasure to visit with you both on and off the air. And let's get this season started pretty soon. What do you say? Oh, man, I agree with that. Thank you so much for having me. I'm honored to be the first guest, honored.

And Matt, I feel like I just saw you lasted, but it feels like a month. I miss you. I know. We are a strange, but yet tight-knit group on Rockets Road trips, and we'll see you soon for it. Sounds good. You got it. Kaylee Griffin with us from AT&T Sportsnet. genuinely sweet, talented person. And that's hard to say because there are some divas in the business. Thankfully, Ross, you don't work with any of them. Genuinely sweet and talented.

Thank you, man. And then I'm the divas, what you're trying to say. Five, four, three, at two. Laze your green. The Matt Thomas show continues. Three corner, nothing but. On Sports Talk, seven-night. Nylon!

Home of your Rockies. All right, let's get a couple of phone calls in. We have some people don't want to talk. and we're a talk radio show on a talk radio station. Yes, sports talk. And we didn't spend three hours crushing Bill O'Brien. We probably could have, but just doesn't need every year to do it. You've got to give them a break, Matt.

We've got a little variety. Yeah, well, he hadn't made any moves yet. Thank you to Kaylee. Doesn't she sound awesome? She's just a nice, sweet person. I've got no issues with Kaylee. I hope not. She hasn't crossed me yet.

What sounder has you, have you and Julia Morales got sideways before? No, I don't think so. All right. make sure. Me and her just made fun of you the entire time we were in spring training hanging out. I know. And into dinner, too, with my flash on my phone. Yeah, you get your flash out on your phone.

So this is the thing. She tweeted out so I can talk about this. Matt Thomas, okay, you know what? It was kind of dark in there. It was BJ's. It was fine. Especially, you know, if you're in your yard house, whatever it's called. Especially if you're near, you, nearing 50 years old, your eyesight isn't what it used to be.

And you need, and it's a little dark. A little. But you, pitch black. I didn't need a light. But Matt Thomas did. But the problem is you're supposed to put the light to the menu on your table. Not the light up to the menu flashed into the entire table's face. Like you're interrogating us in some kind of gulag.

I was not wrong in my actions. Jerry in Jersey Village, thank you for holding. Good afternoon. Oh, yeah, this is Jerry. I know why everybody's mad at Mr. Bill O'Brien. It's because he don't want no glory to hold you. All right, Jerry. Thank you.

He waited nine minutes. for that? No, longer than that, he was on before he can't. I think you should have let him go. I want me some Gloria. Jerry Jones calling into the show, apparently. Since it's in anything goes Thursday, or it feels like that's going to be the anything goes mantra for a while. Should we get cow on the line at some point? Cal on a mobile will not work. I got to tell you, one of my high school friends, Rachel, who may, I don't know if she listens very often, but she listens occasionally. What's up, Rachel? Rachel got a hole-on-one last weekend playing golf.

And I'm very proud of her. Well, she social, does it count? I mean, if you're in a foursome, you're still social distancing, right? She was at Braver and Country Club on hole number 16, 131 yards. She was a six iron. This is the newspaper clipping she put in on her Instagram post. So I thought to myself, I'll look at the rest of them. Okay.

The rest of her Instagram posts? No, the rest of the people that got in hole in ones that day. Okay. Doug McCallet, Herman Park, on hole number 7, 142 yards with an iron. Okay. that's fine. Let's give you another one. Randy Longley at South Shore Harbor used on a hole number two,

a seven hybrid club on a 137 yard hole. John Sparks at Walcat, 143 for the five iron. There's a 148. There's a 141. There's a 135. There are some gibronies out there that are claiming under 100 yards for a hole in one. What's wrong with that? Ron, let's see here.

Ken Magnuson, Memorial Park, hole 15, 94 yards out with a sandwich. Rex Downing, Longwood, hole 8, 9 iron from 95 yards. Chung Chow Chon at Longwood. Hole 3, 8 iron, 85 yards on an 8 iron? Maybe they're on the seniors tease. Hole 15 on Or maybe they put it in wrong So you said that guy was Memorial Park

Hole 15, that's 180 Well, okay So yeah, because you wouldn't use an 8 iron from 85 yards out Do me this favorite If he's a wedge Well, maybe if he's old Go to Memorial Park hole 15

Whole 15 180 yards This says 94 yards with a sandwich Now that makes sense Because you would use a sandwich Or 94 yards My point is this you might get a hole in one and I'm dying for a hole in one

if there's anything I can do with this body I'm not going to hit a home run ever I'm not going to make an NBA basket well even the female T's on that hole are 160 so maybe you just put the wrong yardage in or the wrong hole I mean it's a part three though it's very short okay but there's no way

because there's one okay Ken Magnuson at Memorial Park hole 15 yeah 94 yards sandwich You wouldn't make the, you wouldn't use a sandwich from 180 yards. Yeah, but from in between the tea and the green is water. So he, if he, 94 yards, he would be on a boat. Well, then how, then that's, maybe it's the wrong course. He just accidentally put the wrong yardage.

But you would, but a sandwich wouldn't justify it. The sandwich, 94 yards is right along the lines of someone with a sandwich. Yeah. Or, well, maybe he hit this little piece of land over here to the left. And it wouldn't be a hole in one, though. Everybody knows who Ken Magnuson is. Give us a call. We're out of time for the show today.

5-790. I want to know, are you sure that's number 15 at Memorial Park? Number 15 Memorial Park. It's 180 yards off the back to he's 160 off the female. Somebody helped me with this, and we don't have time for this today because I just saw this 20 minutes ago.

A sandwich is on par with a 90. He's never going to use a sandwich from 180 yards out. Right. So even if the yardage is wrong, You tell me the yardage and the club is wrong? I mean, maybe he just really boonged with a sandwich. What is the senior level? What is the senior?

I don't know. Females 160. That's the same thing. Senior and female T is about the same. All right. Maybe a hole in two. No. Yeah, maybe he hit it into the tree on the left.

Go to Longwood Golf Golf. Oh, geez. Hold on. Hole three. Longwood Golf Club. I don't know. Cross profile. What do I put in here?

85 yards with an eight iron. Now that really doesn't make. sense. This is in Cyprus, Texas. Which hole? Number three. Hole number three. Hold on. This is screwing up. There are people in their cars right now going, Matt, here's what's really going on. Hole number three is 172 and it's all land. Females at 154, back to he's at 188. Everyone's just making these up. I need help with this. How long did he say he hit it? 85 yards. Oh, no, he hit it twice. He hit it twice.

These are holes in one. They're not eagles. Well, there wouldn't be an eagle. This is a par three. You are really, you are really, you are flummoxed. I want clarification of this. From now on, we must require video evidence on the tweets. Why don't you just tweet out that you got a hole in one?

No, I'm going to know the difference. I'm going to tweet out this picture. Yeah. And I'm going to get somebody to help me out with this. There's no way these are accurate because the whole, the websites are not matching the information in the Chronicle. You know the Chronicle never screws anything up. Well. All right.

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