The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - The Matt Thomas Show : Deshaun's Tweet, Kenny Rogers
Episode Date: March 23, 2020The Matt Thomas Show with @SportsMT, @SportsRV and @ProNickLow 3/23/20Deshaun Watson's Tweet (0:00)Albert Breer, Bill O'Brien's Mouthpiece (9:05)Godfather Part II Review (32:04)Texans Social Media Is ...Just As Tone Deaf as Coach (41:45)Texans Safety Justin Reid Joins The Matt Thomas Show (53:45)The Return of Believe It or Not (1:55:25)
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Much larger than life.
Yeah.
Lunch timers is the Matt Thomas show.
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Good afternoon to you and welcome to a Monday edition of the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 790 with our producer, our colleague, our friend Nick Lowe.
Our co-hosts, our cohort, Sports RV, Ross, Philadelphia.
ally, Matt. Nice have you with us. Hi, gentlemen.
Hi, Matt. We don't see each other much
before. We get in here.
Do our thing, get out. We don't, we don't
congregate. We don't have our 9.30 morning meetings
like we used to. I bought you a, uh,
I bought you a Coke Zero. This is how you treat me?
Did you get it, by the way? Yeah, I did. Thank you very much.
It'll be refreshing in around 1.30 this afternoon.
When we will have
Texan safety, Justin Reed, join
the show. Really? Yeah.
Interesting. And here's the best part. It's not
about promoting something, which I will even promote
if we would. If we needed to, we don't.
we're going to try to catch up with people that we don't normally get to talk to.
And Justin would be around on that list.
And he'll join us at 1.30 this afternoon.
Yeah, Justin's bored.
I mean, aren't we all bored?
What's he doing with his free time?
It's almost like, Ross, this is the strangest thing.
I used to look with my old life, and hopefully we get back to that new life here quickly.
Monday through Saturday for me is extraordinarily busy.
Sundays are my decompressed day, or unless there's a Rockets game, I don't do anything.
It's almost like I'd rather get money if you're Friday.
So at least I have the show.
We have, I get in my car, I drive down here, see you guys.
Do we do the show?
Saturdays and Sundays for me have been just eat, nap, watch a couple of things on TV.
I'll watch The Godfather Part 2 yesterday.
Wonderful.
I'm going to review at $12.50 on that.
Eat more.
I think I've gained, I told you, I think I'm gaining three pounds a week.
Well, they hit the gym, Matt.
Oh, wait.
No, can't hit the gym.
Don't you have a basketball goal outside your place?
Yes.
Get some shots up.
I'm a calories I'm really going to burn.
A lot.
Basketball is one of the best ways to burn calories.
It's just bad for your knees and your back.
Oh, they weren't that.
So I think I'd just sit home and eat.
I think I'm just going to go with that.
All right.
So we got that going on.
And then we have on late Friday or may have been Saturday.
The Texans send out the list of all their transactions,
of the trades, of the free agent signings.
and it hit me again how extraordinarily painful it is to have DeAndrea Hopkins, not as a member
of the Houston Texans.
Extraordinarily painful.
Would a wave come over you?
What's that?
Did a wave come over you?
Is it like when you lose your dog or a loved one or someone and you try to call him out
of the, or you wake up to go take him for a walk and you're like, oh no.
Right.
This is terrible.
Is that what happened to you, Matt?
Yeah, because you remember last week at this point, did we not?
we were shell shock literally on the air
we kept going on what
what huh no this is what we did
what that was more like that we were not trying to
oversell no I was I did not
I don't do that yeah we were not
other shows oversell we don't oversell
we don't oversell in the Matt Thomas show no no
well maybe a little bit but that's not here no
so I had this list of all these things
okay David Johnson's here
DeAndre Hopkins is gone
they've signed Randall
Eric Murray Brent Cuvile
What?
The new tackle from Nebraska.
Cosun type.
Jalen Watkins.
And they also re-signed Tyrell Adams, Philip Gaines, Vernon Hargraves, Roderick Johnson,
A.J. McCarran, Bradley Roeby, and John Weeks.
And they also put a tweet out that said, we prioritize resigning our own.
And we're going to read those.
I almost feel like, guys, we need to do a segment every day on the Texans' Twitter and their replies.
But we're not going to talk about the Texans' Twitter account.
we're going to get to somebody else's Twitter account.
Deshawn Watson.
Nick, would you, would you mind reading Deshawn Watson's tweet that was out, what, less than two hours ago?
In your best Drake impression?
In my best Drake impression.
All right, here I go.
Let me clear my throat.
Go ahead.
Do you do a Drake?
I didn't realize you did a Drake.
I do a pretty good Drake.
Here it goes.
I don't know how I'm going to make it out of here clean.
Can't even keep track of who plays for the other team.
iconic duos rip and split at the seams
Good heart of people are taking it to extremes
Leaving me in limbo to question what I believe
Leaving me to ask what's their motive and making peace
Leaving me to not trust anybody I meet
Leaving me to ask is there anybody like me
Now obviously that's more than 280 characters
Yeah, I let it keep going
Because it fits
That's all relevant as well
So Ross please do your to us a favor
Go to Deshawn's Twitter account.
I am on Deshawn at Deshawn Watson.
And he puts out the first 140 characters
of which you just heard.
Yes.
Or 280, whatever it was.
And the responses of the following.
Well, let me just read what he put there.
I don't know how I'm going to make it out of here clean.
Can't even keep track of who plays for the other team.
Iconic duos rip and split at the seams.
Okay, first of all, before you read the replies?
Yes.
Is he doing it?
Now tell me if any.
When I hit the truth, I'll give you like multiple choices.
Okay.
Is he doing that because he doesn't understand that Philip Rivers is now a cult?
Yeah.
Or Tom Brady is not a patriot.
Tom Brady is not a patriot.
It's now with the Buccaneers.
Or the fact that Todd Gurley is now Atlanta Falcon.
Okay.
Those could be possibilities, right?
Correct.
But not likely.
Did he find out that his favorite, that Sigfrid and Roy are no longer doing a show together in Las Vegas?
They've split up.
I don't think you did.
Because he's talking about duos, right?
That's true.
Iconic duos?
Did he find out way later than he should have that the captain and Toneal broke up?
Maybe he's upset.
It's still about the Chris Paul Trady.
They were Paul and Hardin, iconic duo.
Iconic duos.
Did a, who are in there?
Did Laverne and Shirley, another iconic duo split up?
And Deshaun just had to go to his Twitter account.
He was binging the show and he just saw it end?
That's right.
Or?
He was on a, he was on a,
Joni loves Chachi binge or something?
Yeah. Do you find out that Cagney and Lacey don't really like each other?
I don't think so.
Will and Grace, that's a final season.
This is about Deshawn, the Andre Hopkins.
There's no way around it.
First of all, you're absolutely right.
Secondly, he, you don't have to, every time something happens in your life,
you don't have to run the Twitter.
Now, I did a lot of that this weekend.
I went to the grocery store on Saturday, and that was a goat F.
And then I've been tweeting about watching Godfather and other things going on.
But obviously, Houston, he wanted to let you know through his Twitter account how he feels about DeAndre Hopkins now wearing Arizona gear.
Well, I've scrolled through all his tweets from, I'm back into about December, and I haven't seen music lyrics and any other tweet.
I've seen highlights, him doing charity work.
Wishing his mother, happy birthday.
Retweeting people wearing his jersey.
Yeah.
Yeah, doing all of this stuff being in the NFL Top 100, getting in an interview with Michael Vic.
I've seen a lot of number of things.
I have not seen one tweet of
cryptic music lyrics.
Do you think this tweet lands him in a meeting with Bill O'Brien
that ends up in his trading?
Well, you know, it's funny because
on late Friday, I think it was after our show,
you know those goofy-ass websites
that put out these strange odds about things
that one of the so-called quasi-bets you could make
with some of the strange websites
is you could bet where Deshawn Watson plays in 2021.
And one of the options was the New England Patriots.
I think that was the frontrunner, wasn't it?
I don't know where it was.
I didn't really take the time to look at it, but I just thought, I saw people on
Twitter tweeting that, hey, and then there are people that are photoshopping his face
in a New England uniform.
Did Aaron Hernandez used to tweet out song lyrics?
You're not supposed to do that.
Bill O'Brien's not supposed to bring up Aaron Hernandez, nor are you.
So Albert Breer.
Now, I get these things confused, Ross, and I mean this in all sincerity.
There are some mouthpieces for Bill O'Brien there or some or not.
I feel like Albert Breer is one of them, correct?
That's what, I don't know that to be the case.
Apparently, somebody said there, was it Chris Gordy who said there were boys?
I don't know.
I don't know that.
I know that Ian Rappaport is basically Bill O'Brien's mouthpiece.
Albert Breer, I'm not sure.
Okay.
Maybe there is that thinking, I don't know.
Albert Breer has gone through a list of things of why the breakup happened between Deshawn Watson
and the Houston Texans.
And we'll explain what that is next on Sports Talk 790.
Yo, this is Bun B.
And my wife is the biggest fan of the whitest man in America.
Matt Thomas.
Reckless, ratchet, and don't give a fuck.
You got to know when to hold up.
Know when to fold up.
No when to walk away.
One of the goats.
The OG, if you will.
Is he the OG?
Well, a lot of people call themselves OGs, but you really, you got to be an OG.
He's not an OG.
He's a goat, though.
is a Houston native.
Is this your favorite Kenny Rogers song?
Yes, I gave you my top five list on Twitter.
At SportsMT.
Number two is Islands in the Stream with her and him and Dolly Parton.
He was a great duet.
I like that better when it was Maya and old dirty bastard.
Yeah, where's this one on your list?
This one is number one.
Oh.
What is this?
Are you, what is it, Jimmy Hendrix?
No, this is what I'm condition I was in?
Yeah.
He was in this one, this band is.
Yeah.
This is quirky.
Turn me. Put the game we're back on.
We decided Ross and I have that we're going to,
there we go.
We're going to bring back, believe it or not.
We have no prizes because our offices are closed.
We're going to do shoutouts because we're not going to,
let me tell you something, coronavirus.
You're not stopping, believe it or not.
America's fastest growing sports game show.
We were kind of.
We were kind of.
We were like frowning.
Like it's 252.
Five minutes left to go on the show.
And we're cross-talking with,
with Adam Clinton.
Who cares about that?
I don't care what Wexel and Clinton have on their show.
We're going to play America's fastest growing game.
So you prize pigs, you're not going to win a prize, but you're going to get a shout-out.
You can play the game, though.
When to hold him.
You know, this is not going to be a believe it or not, but apparently my grandpa went to high school with Kenny Rogers.
All right.
And the way my dad tells it that Kenny Rogers was a nerd and my grandpa took him under his wing.
But that sounds made up, right?
I love that.
Doesn't that sound like something you would just make up?
Yeah, you know, I went to high school with Kenny Rogers.
He was an old nerdy guy.
I taught him everything he knows.
Our friend Matt Jackson was working in the country at the, you know, the place of the country music.
And he said Kenny Rogers came in and said he couldn't have been a nicer person.
I've heard nothing but amazing things about him.
And apparently he served a good chicken.
Well, apparently my grandpa taught him everything he knows.
Well, he's done quite well for himself or did.
Passing way over the age of 81.
You know the best part about him?
Not there's ever a good part about passing, but he died in his sleep of natural causes.
That's good.
That's the way I want to go.
Yeah.
After watching Godfather 2, I can tell you a variety of reasons how you don't want to go.
Yeah.
I'll have a quick review on that coming up in 30 minutes.
All right, I mentioned Albert Breer.
His story is part of, I guess he does like a, I'm sorry.
Let me say one thing about Albert Breer, because you asked me if he was a mouthpiece.
So I just Googled Albert Breer and Bill O'Brien.
And there are a number of stories about that Albert Breer has written that paid Bill O'Brien in a positive light.
maybe he is his boy.
So I guess the real research would be, can you find an Albert Breer story that takes the Texans
attached at all?
No. Okay. So we're going to have to put this in the another. So he's got Ian Rappaport.
Is his boy? And look, every team's got boys. Right. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
This is not like out of the ordinary. If, if there was something not favorable said,
um, about anybody, I mean, about any team, any manager, I mean, you go to the reporters,
they're going to try to spend it the right way. And then it's up to the audience to decide,
whether or not this is a legit.
Like, I don't think, do you think, like, the number one guy is Adam Schaefter.
I don't feel like when I read Adam Schaefter stuff that there is an agenda to it,
that if I put this out there about somebody that he's trying to do a favor.
I think he's more, well, he was favorable from Denver because that's where he came out of for a while.
I don't really get that feeling anymore.
But I think he is more on the player side because I think most of his contacts are agents.
So he does seem more player.
friendly than most. Okay. So here's
a thing. So there's a variety of reasons
and I'm not going to read the whole thing to you, but I'll just give you
a couple of things. And these are stuff that we've kind of already
glossed over, but this is just further
proof because it's an NFL writer.
Albert Bearer says
people are still shocked about the Texans
what they got back in return for DeAndre
Hopkins. Here are some factors
that played into it. One,
Hopkins was not looking for an extension.
He was looking for a raise in his current
contract, which has three years left.
I don't think that's anything out of the ordinary.
He was looking to get into the top two or three in terms of receivers.
I think he, as we discussed in the show last week, he was paid sixth.
And as I said, I think it took a total of $10 million to put them in that category.
If you took $10 million over three years, bump in each one of those two, three years left,
that puts them in that top two or three.
So again, everybody's got to manage a cap,
but you're going to let one of the premier receivers in the game
get sideways with you over a total of $10 million over a total of three years.
to each his own.
Next, there was friction with Hopkins inside the organization,
and it really had to do with everything between Monday to Saturday.
As we've talked about numerous times, wide receivers are the greatest diva position in football.
I think way more so than quarterbacks.
I really do.
I think quarterbacks carry a huge responsibility for being the face of a franchise.
So there's, now obviously they're going to get paid more than anybody else.
They carry a lot of responsibility.
But they're also, when you think Pittsburgh Steelers, who do you think of right away?
You think of Ben Rothesburg or good or bad.
When you think of the New England Patriots, even though their defense has really frankly
outplayed their offense the last couple of years, the first thing that came to mind was Tom Brady.
When you thought of the Chargers, you thought of immediately Philip Rivers.
When the Colts were Colts, you have Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck.
The Texans, you think of Deshaun Watson.
and maybe to a certain extent
to DJJ Watt had the previous few years
when he was in the prime.
So apparently,
Sundays, DeAndre Hopkins did everything
and then some to help you in a football game.
Monday to Saturday,
he was,
which goes to the character of what a wide receiver is.
And I think,
as I learned a long time ago,
listening to Phil Jackson,
if you think you can treat every player
on a 12-man NBA roster the same,
you're nuts.
Michael Jordan was going to be treated a lot different than Tony Koochch.
Michael Jordan is going to be treated a lot different than John Paxson.
You know what I'm saying?
Or a BJ Armstrong, if you will, or a Bill Winnington.
Bill, yeah.
So I'm going to take that knowledge that Phil Jackson once told, not me per se, but in a press conference.
And I'm going to say that every member of a 53 man NFL roster is not treated the same.
and that if DeAndre Hopkins on Sunday,
balls to the wall helps you win football games
and catches everything and is a good teammate
doesn't get in trouble with the law,
could he be a wee bit different money through Saturday?
The answer is yes.
So the argument was not only did Bill get sideways
about his money through Saturday preparation,
but he thought that giving a brand new contract to a guy
who was only willing to do his stuff on Sundays
was sending a bad message within the organization.
This is Breer's words, not mine.
Well, Bill O'Brien's words.
I mean, he got this.
This is all Texan slanted.
I'm sure some.
DeAndre Hopkins didn't, let's just say that
the Yondry Hopkins or his agent didn't leak this.
Let's put it that way.
Here's the quote that I'll read to you
and we'll move on on the next topic.
It's another to reward him with a new contract
with three years left on the deal
and have to handle the message it sends to the locker room
and those intangible elements, by the way,
are now central to how Executive Vice President
Jack Easterby is trying to help O'Brien
rework the organization.
So you're telling me that Jack Easterby?
Can you read that last sentence again?
Yeah, I'd be happy to.
And those intangible elements,
meaning giving a guy a new deal
when he doesn't give you to you Monday through Saturday,
are central to EVP Jack Easterby
and trying to help O'Brien rework the organization.
So Jack Easterby is reworking the organization.
So Jack Eastby goes to Bill O'Brien and says, you know, on Thursdays,
DeAndre Hopkins doesn't help us.
He's not a good teammate.
He doesn't follow our rules.
I can't give him.
I don't want you giving him new money.
So for those intangibles, they're going to ignore all of the tangible gains that they get on Sundays?
Correct.
You know who I want to hear from, Nick, on this whole thing about whether or not he's a good Monday through Saturday?
Is Alan Iverson available to help us out with this?
wink, wink, you know what I'm saying?
So go see if you can find what
Alan Iverson's thoughts are on DeAndre Hopkins,
not a game.
Not a game that I die for.
All right, a couple of other things.
We're talking about.
Texans have big contracts coming up to Sean Watson
and obviously Laramie Tunsell.
And one more thing,
and this is very Belichekian,
very Belichekian of Bill O'Brien.
There's also the argument over the value
of a top receiver versus other positions,
and it's worth knowing that Sean Baiton and Bill Belichick both traded away Brandon Cooks.
The Steelers draft dealt Antonio Brown and the Giants probably aren't looking back at the O'Dell Beckham trade with much regret.
So you're going to tell me, well, Cook's, it is what it is.
But Antonio Brown was a major headcase.
Odell Beckham was a major headcase.
All DeAndre Hopkins Ross did was play his ass off.
every single Sunday, occasional Thursday, and last year on a Saturday.
Well, every year in the playoffs on a Saturday at 3 o'clock.
Yeah, the Saturdays at least 3 o'clock.
So they play two or three Saturdays a year or at least once a year.
Damn it.
Why are they doing?
Why is Easter?
I'm putting Easter being this mix now, too, by the way.
You should.
Why is Easterby and O'Brien putting what he has done as Bill O'Brien has put
O'Dell Beckham, Antonio Brown,
Aaron Hernandez
in the same category as DeAndre Hopkins.
It's ridiculous.
All those guys,
Antonio, Antonio Brown begged his way
out of Pittsburgh.
That's why they got the little compensation
that they did.
And he mentions in here,
oh, look, there's, you know,
you don't have to put a priority on a wide receiver.
Look at Bill Belichick, who traded away Brandon Cooks.
The same guy who traded for Brandon Cooks for a first round pick, the season before.
And oh, by the way, if you want to say that big-time wide receivers aren't important, that's fine.
But then how are you going to sell me that big-time expensive running backs are important?
Because you just took on a running back who's making $20 million over the next two years
and is the third highest-paid running back in the entire league and hasn't had a good season in four seasons.
So sell me that.
How are you going to sell me?
The wide receiver is not important, but then running backs are.
worth all this money.
What I want to know is this, after looking at Deshawn's tweet today,
Deshawn's going to be in front of a microphone, what, the very first, maybe during OTAs,
if there are such a thing, or mini-camp.
But even worst-case scenario, if all that goes away, and the first time that Deshawn
speaks could be as late as what, July or August, how is he going to, with a straight face,
spin what his organization is done?
I don't know.
When someone to ask him the next time to Sean Watson's in public,
what did that tweet meant on, what is today's date, the 21st?
Yes.
23rd, 23rd.
We've asked Alan Iverson about this whole thought about whether or not Deionnery Hopkins
not being a great Monday through Saturday guy affects the team.
As we're sitting in here, I'm supposed to be the franchise player,
and we're in here talking about practice.
I mean, listen, we're talking about practice.
Not a game, not a game, not a game.
We're talking about practice.
Not a game.
Not the game that I go out there and die for
and play every game like it's my last.
Not the game.
We're talking about practice, man.
I mean, how silly is that?
We're talking about practice.
I know I'm supposed to be there.
I know I'm supposed to leave by example.
I know that.
And I'm not shoving it aside
like it don't mean anything.
I know it's important. I do. I honestly do. But we're talking about practice, man. What are we talking about?
Practice? We're talking about practice, man. We're talking about practice. We're talking about practice. We're talking about the game. We're talking about practice, man.
When you come into the arena and you see me play, you see me play, don't you? You see me give everything I got, right?
But we're talking about practice right now.
We're talking about practice.
Man, look, I hear you.
It's funny to me too.
I mean, it's strange to me too.
But we're talking about practice, man.
We're not even talking about the game, the actual game,
when it matters.
We're talking about practice.
Is it possible, though, from where he's coming from,
if you practiced, not you would be better,
but your teammates would be better?
How the hell can I make my teammates better by practicing?
I love it.
Alan Iverson is just as valuable today with this,
and he was back in the day with the 76ers.
713-212-5-790.
That's what DeAndre Hopkins should be saying about the first time he gets asked about
why he wasn't a great money through Saturday player,
because Sundays he was amazing.
It's the Matt Thomas show, 713, 212, 5, 790.
This is Craig Viz.
video, video.
Back to Matt Thomas on Sports Talk, 790.
Oh, we're having some fun.
Your home of the Stroes.
All right, a little bit of breaking news here on the show,
not related to the Texans or any of the local teams.
Veteran International Olympic Committee member, Dick Pound.
Dick Pound has finally weighed in?
Telling USA Today's sports that postponement
has been decided for the 2020 Olympics and that it will not start on July 24th, most likely
postponed one year to July of 2021. That according to Dick Pound of the International Olympic Committee.
So does that mean we're going to start having Olympics on odd-numbered years from now on,
or there's going to be a three-year gap instead of four? That'd be smart. First of all, Canada
yesterday said, we're not coming. I don't care what you're doing. Second of all, it was
would have taken someone with an IQ of less than 75 to say, you know what, let's bring in
hundreds of countries into our area, and then let's send those hundreds of countries back
to their respective countryland and see if we can spread this thing anymore.
Yeah, Dick Powell was really between Iraq and a hard place here.
That was actually the plot of a book I read a while several years ago where some terrorists
were going to unleash a virus and they did it at the Olympics.
Just saying.
Thanks for weighing in on that one, Nick.
Thanks, Nick.
I'm sure you should have called Mr. Pound on that.
Mr. Pound is speaking softly and carrying a big stick, Matt.
Okay, so this weekend, I'm trying to find some sports.
The ESP and the Ocho stuff doesn't do anything for me.
What? I watched a little bit of that.
Okay.
I was watching the dodge ball, and I watched a little bit of the cornhole as well.
That does nothing for you? I find it thrilling.
No. I don't mind playing it when I've got to be.
my hand, but generally speaking, I don't want to watch any of that.
So, but that's just to each his own.
Those guys are incredibly good.
So I put CBS on Channel 11, because they usually have college basketball.
This is Sweet 16 weekend.
And what shows up?
It's North Carolina State, Houston.
I took a nap.
You know what I'll tell you all I'm doing is napping and the eating.
That was nap time.
And this was a couple of days ago.
They put the 30 for 30 on, right?
On the ESPN.
I think what they're doing is saying, hey, hello, coronavirus, people.
If you've not seen the 30 for 30 on FISAma for the 8th millionth
time, why don't we let you see it again? And then CBS said, oh, you know, it's one of those games.
We don't care if it's standard definition. We're going to put it on. And we're going to talk
about how Clyde Drexler was in foul trouble and how the Cougars missed a bunch of free throws
and how this team that nobody thought was even going to make the tournament won the national
championship. We're going to watch, we're going to watch Jimmy Valbano may rest and peace,
runner on the court looking for somebody to hug over and over and over again.
It was an iconic sports moment, Matt. I'm sure it was lovely. I'm sorry. Not to me.
Just at the expense of
Houston sports fans.
How many iconic sports moments are at the expense of Houston sports fans?
There's that, the Buffalo comeback.
Let's fast forward my life.
I'm 47.
Let's say I get to 94.
It's double.
Okay.
That's why I still want to consider myself middle age.
So, Ross, you're visiting with me in the hospital.
You're calling towards the end.
Talk to me.
Hey, Matt.
How's it going?
How's the canasta game going?
I'm barely old.
I sound like Correone.
I think I'm going to do that.
I think I'm barely holding on, Ross.
There are things I'm going to remember.
Yeah.
Our 10,000 Twitter party.
Of course.
Our 20,000.
And then three years after that, we had the 30,000 party,
and we had a great time in Vegas once they open up Vegas again.
But I'm never, ever going to forget the following.
That damn Oilers' Bills game,
it is always on the NFL.
Network over and over again.
Oh, really? They abolish the NFL 30 years ago because of too much head trauma.
Nurse!
Nurse!
Matt, are you just coughing again so you can look at her tautas?
I'm never going to forget, five slammer jammer.
And then for some reason, they're putting this Dame Lillard shot on.
Damien Little, the 6th is playing in the NBA, but they're showing Damien Lillow the first
hitting that jumper in front of James Hardin and Chandler Parsons.
rest easy Matthew
I must die
That's how I'm going to end
At 94 years old hopefully
And then I take you out of your misery
And snuff you out with a pillow
Well before you do that you get shot
Okay
So
That's what I'm
The last show I'm going to watch on television
Will be the 75
millionth rendition
Of North Carolina State versus Houston
The 100th anniversary
See 100 years would be 2083
You got up. I'm there.
You're going to make it, Matt.
You'd be 110.
You're going to have to carry me to my bathroom and stuff.
I'll put you on my back, throw you over my shoulder.
You're going to be a hundred at that point.
I'm going to say, I don't think you're going to be Sprider to do this.
I'm forever young, Matt, in my mind.
There's something very unofficial out there.
What game do you think in college basketball has been shown?
I mean, has that been shown more or Kentucky versus Duke with the Leitner shot?
I was going to say Leitner shot, but it's,
Probably one two.
It's probably one, too.
Yeah.
I think what was a Leitner shot, 92, right?
Yeah, I think so.
And Cougars were 83.
So that's, so, so North Carolina State, Houston had a decade advanced head start on this.
But what else has been shown more often?
When you think of the all-time iconic basketball games, I don't know one has been,
never been some great shots.
You know, Georgetown losing to Villanova in 85 was a big, big super upset.
Maybe the, the, Chris Weber timeout game, but,
Even then, I think that's behind.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So thank you, CBS.
You have, I don't know,
45,000 games at your disposal,
but yet you said, you know what,
let's put this game on for people that are just clinically depressed
that can't leave their house.
Sorry, Matt.
Thank God I got more than three channels that you're used from.
I mean, outside of Houston, it's an iconic game.
Oh, my gosh, yes.
If you and I went to a bar,
when I've ever opened up again,
let's say you and I went to, say,
I don't know, Denver and said,
name the most famous college basketball game you know,
It wouldn't take long for people to say North Carolina State Houston.
Well, as long as they're over a certain age.
My guess is probably for...
For example, I wasn't born.
I mean, that would be my answer, but I wasn't born when that game happened.
Yeah, but my guess is maybe even the Leitner's shot was even as incredible, too.
I mean, those really, to me, are one, too, when it comes to, oh, my God, dynamic, amazing moments.
One interesting, one I'd just rather never see again.
But yet, my friends at ESPN and CBS insist on showing it to us,
over and over and over again.
We've recently, the Butler versus Duke, where Butler almost had that half-court heave and
they almost won the game.
Well, how about Villanol winning at the buzzer?
Yeah, that was a good one.
But that's one of those things.
I don't...
And Jay Wright just, like, throws up his hands.
That's a great reaction from him.
Yeah, great.
Now I'm all depressed.
Sorry, man.
So we've gone 42 minutes of the Matt Thomas show.
We've talked about how Albert Breer is once again writing words from Bill O'Brien's mouth to
his typewriter to his computer.
He's just transcribing what Bill O'Brien is saying.
He's like, he's like,
No, no, no, Breyer, get over here.
Put this.
He, the Deionre Hopkins, get out of the way.
I'll type it for you.
It's not a good Saturday and a Monday person.
Or what a Monday to Saturday?
He's a chicken finger typeer.
Bill O'Brien, guaranteed.
How about this?
Chicken peck.
O'Brien is saying it, but Easterby is the one typing it.
Yeah, that's what I say, transcribing.
Yeah.
Albert Breyer is not even running his own columns.
anymore.
All right.
We've got to get into
a couple of TV things
real quick.
I watched Godfather
Part 2.
I'll give you that.
And there is a new
Netflix series that I started
watching the first episode of yesterday.
Wait a minute.
Is it the one that's sweeping
the nation?
I almost started that yesterday.
It is.
Again, I've only watched
one episode in a few minutes
of the second one.
It's every bit as creepy
as you think it's going to be
yet I'm mesmerized.
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Whoever's in charge of the Houston Texan social media,
I guess I basically Twitter account took another L this weekend.
That's unfortunate.
And we will explain that in minutes.
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Texan safety, to join us at 1.30. So a lot to get to.
And the return, believe it or not, for no prizes.
We just miss playing America's Fast and Growing Game Show.
We'll do it for shoutouts. The category today is all things about Kenny Rogers.
All right. So two weeks ago, you guys told me via vote to vote to watch Godfather 1,
and I loved it.
Godfather 2 was, I had to watch it because one was so good.
So I spent three hours plus a couple interruptions to watch that.
Do you put your phone down, Matt?
Yeah, but I had some other family responsibility.
It's like just getting alone in a house for three and a half hours was just going to be a challenge.
You had to make the mac and cheese or something?
So I made, so I think I did it over four and a half five.
I liked Godfather part two.
I might have even liked one, a tinge better.
A lot of people say two is better.
Nick, I don't know where you come down on this.
Here's my reasoning.
I don't mind finding out about the young veto.
Yeah.
But it would have actually been better served if he had done it in the first.
one and then grew up a little bit and then maybe move Michael along a little further in
the second would have been my guess there is a cut that I think AMC or somebody came out
where everything is in chronological I don't think it works as well did you like the
way it was one then two the way they did it or yeah I think it's put together the
right way I think unveiling the Vito story later is is more entertaining but as far as
which one's better.
I mean,
their neck and neck.
You have to watch them both.
Yeah, for sure.
I'm glad I did it.
I feel shame that it took me
40-something years of mine.
I wasn't going to watch
when I was seven.
Gosh,
this is one last thing
I can make fun of you about that.
Oh, yeah.
During this time,
we're away from sports,
you're going to have a lot of things
you can't make fun of me for.
Trust me on this.
Let me tell you about one thing.
Chris Cuomo does a show on
CNN.
I think he hosts the Chris Cuomo
reporter or whatever they're calling it.
And he got into a fight
this is real life a few months ago and it was videotaped where somebody in the street called him a Fredo.
And that's a derogatory Italian term.
I didn't know what that meant, but now I do because one of the core characters, the godfather, is Fredo.
Yes, you don't want to be afraid, Matt.
We easily manipulated.
And then when someone said, you don't want to be Afraido, now it puts it all into context.
Why you don't want to be afraid of because I knew when.
Frito went to the boat, he wasn't coming back.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes.
Did you think, though, when they hugged at the funeral?
I remember when I first watched that, I thought that he was going to be okay.
No, I knew.
And then he kind of looked at his, who was it, Al Neri, whoever he looked at and it was
like, okay, maybe he's not going to be okay.
No, no, no, because I think he said, don't touch him until after mom passes or whatever
should be.
But then they have that emotional hug at the funeral.
But then Michael looks up like, you know what to do.
You know what to do.
How about the fact that Michael's wife had an abortion and did not lose the baby?
That was tough.
Right.
Because she was over it.
Well, she lost the baby just via abortion.
Yeah, she said, I didn't have a miscarriage.
I had an abortion.
If you think I'm getting away spoilers, too late.
Do you know at that moment, you were like, Michael is not going to take this well?
And he didn't take it very well.
He knew right then.
You're like, oh.
Yeah.
Kay done messed up.
So, yeah, again, I loved, love, loved one.
I'd like two.
And from what everyone's up told me, three is just not very good.
It's a waste of your time.
Do you think I should even watch it?
I disagree with the notion that it's a waste of time.
It's just not anywhere close to as good as the one and two.
See, the problem is I'm going to go into that with that notion.
So with three hours, yeah, exactly.
If your expectations are low, it's not going to bother you that much.
The problem is Sophia Coppola is the worst actor ever.
and for whatever reason, Francis, well, because it's his daughter, he puts her in there.
All right.
And so I just want to tell you, for those of me that are a nose job too, by the way.
Taya Shire's character, it's not much to her.
I mean, basically, she's going to whore around and needs money.
It needs money, yeah.
Yeah.
It happens.
What else?
I think that's really about it.
The whole Cuba thing kind of was, to me.
I didn't think the whole stretch down there in Cuba did much for me.
Again, I give Godfather five stars.
I get part two, four, and a quarter.
Okay.
Loved it.
And for those of you that have given me grief for, I don't know, the last 10 years of not
seeing that movie, please shame me.
Because I absolutely deserve it.
It was fantastic.
Well, I'm glad you liked it, Matt.
It wasn't as violent as you were thinking, right?
No, it was as a violin as I thought it was going to be.
So I'm either going to watch Godfather three next weekend and just be done with it,
or I'm going to leave it open to the audience for another movie.
I'm going to try to get away from gangster movies for one week.
No, you got good fellows, man.
Really?
Yes.
Okay.
Well, that's, speaking of violence, that's pretty violent one.
Yeah.
I see that, I need to, because every time I put it on my computer, because I'm buying it on Amazon Prime, I'm like, Carly, get it with my daughter.
You can't watch this because I just know what's going to happen.
Goodfellas is on Netflix, so it's a way easy.
Even bigger.
Okay.
Real quick, before, one more thing before we get to the top of the hour and we get to the Texans social media department being, I mean, you think they're as tone deaf as the coach?
Would that be fair to say?
Texans social media team as tone deaf unless he's running unless Bill O'Brien's running the social media.
You think Bill O'Brien is his social media director as well?
Just saying.
Saw episode one of the Tiger King yesterday.
This is this Netflix show.
Everybody's going crazy about this.
I haven't watched it yet.
Joe Exotic.
Is that his name?
Well, he changed his name legally to Joe Exotic.
He's bat-blank crazy.
All of his employees are bad.
blank crazy. The whole notion of what he's doing in Oklahoma or did in Oklahoma. So I watched all of
the first episode to kind of get the pretext of who everybody is. And I'm like 10 minutes into the
second episode. So for those of you that are Tiger King watchers, from what I understand, it gets even
weirder and twistier and crazier after you get to meet these people. And so I am all in on that.
So I'll give you guys an update on that moves along. But yeah, for everyone that's told me they're,
they just don't come out the same, Ross, after watching Tiger King. How many episodes is it?
I believe there's six, but don't hold me to that.
I'll knock that out today.
Because I do want you to see it because it'll be something we can all get into.
So that has been the new hot show on Netflix, is Tiger King.
So we need to catch that.
So there you have it.
So my Godfather, two, four and a half stars, four and a quarter, Godfather five,
and I'm going to find something else this weekend.
Because I'm to tell you right, I'm not watching North Carolina State of Houston ever again.
I'm done with it, Ross.
You're going to have to force me to watch that.
And if it's ever on, I'm going to turn it off like I did last Saturday.
It's not happening.
Too sad.
Too sad of moments.
We're supposed to be uplifted.
We're supposed to get past this.
I can't do this when that atrocity of a game is on my television.
Man, it was like 40 years ago.
Still hurts.
It still too soon.
Still too soon.
Way too soon.
Yeah, I guess you did say when you're 94 and eating out of a blender, it's going to be too soon.
That's how you say, hey, Matt, I got news for you.
You can't walk.
You can't change a television.
Guess what I'm going to do it.
I'm going to put this game on for you and let you suffer.
Yeah, if you act up.
Like if you won't eat your tapioca pudding.
I'm Matt.
I'm going to put on the game, Matt.
Matt, you don't want a sponge bath?
Guess what?
I'm putting the game on instead.
I'm not giving you a sponge bath.
I'm not just talking with the general nurse.
Okay, good.
That's the way they'll get you to do anything.
Yeah.
Just put you in a spot to say, if you don't do this, you sit and watch,
Wittenberg.
Oh, no, no, I don't want to do it.
I want to do it at all.
All right, 713, 2, 1,2, 5, 719.
713-212-5-790.
Real quick before we get to the top of the hour, Mark, Mike on the north side.
Hi, Mike.
Bro, I am so excited for you because I stumbled onto this show, the Tiger Kings.
Yeah.
And I benched it, and you have no clue what's in store for you.
And there's one episode where Shaq is in it.
Like, it's showing some footage from where Shaq is running around.
is running around with Joe Exotic?
Yes.
Where in God's name did they scrape this guy up from?
It's a disaster, but it is probably the greatest thing that I've watched in a long time.
Okay.
So I'm really excited for you, man.
Give me a week to binge watch it.
I'll get it done by the end of the week.
I can promise you.
Thank you for the phone call.
Ladies and gentlemen, the Houston Texans wrote a story with no name, by the way.
It's a Houston Texan staff, i.e.
Bill O'Brien.
The article's title is
Texans place a priority
on resigning many of their own.
Did this go well on Twitter?
You'll find out next on 790.
Is the Matt Thomas show.
Justin Reed is going to join us,
courtesy of the big brothers and big sisters.
Man, I'll tell you what, I like him a lot.
First of all, really good player.
Second, very civic-minded.
And he's going to talk about that and some football coming up in about a half an hour from now.
Very much looking forward to that.
It should be great.
Looking forward to it.
I have put out an APB for a people we miss hearing from tomorrow.
And it's a national guy.
So I'll be staring at my text.
See if you join this person joins us tomorrow.
Albert Breer?
No, I don't miss hearing from him.
We've had him on the show before.
Is he good?
I got his number.
Try to get Albert Breer?
You mean, nah, I'm good.
All right.
So the Houston Texan staff, imagine if you wrote this,
article. Nick, this is right from their website, correct?
Imagine if you wrote this story.
You don't even get credit for this.
Would you want credit for that?
Probably not.
I'll read the first three paragraphs.
And then Ross, this same story was put out for people to read via the Twitter,
and then we'll have you read the response.
Is that right?
Okay.
So here is the headline.
Texans place a priority on resigning many of their own.
I'll read.
The Texans place a premium on players who are dependable, tough, and smart.
To that end, Houston made a strong push to keep as many of them as they could in free agency.
Is that a dig?
Maybe.
Continuing.
Through the first few days of free agency, we saw the reports on receiver Randall Cobb and safety Eric Murray agreeing to terms with the Texans after Stinson, Dallas and Cleveland, respectively.
But a dozen or so players agreed to terms of the Texans ahead of an end.
and during free agency as well.
On both sides of the ball, as well as on special teams unit that were drastically improved over the last two seasons.
Houston kept key components, aside from Dylan Cole and Kiamy Fairbairn,
who were both undrafted rookies, every one of the players listed below came to town after at least one previous NFL stop.
So if you want to go to the Texans website and look, you're more than welcome to do so.
But what we like to do sometimes we like to peruse what's happening on the worldwide streets of Twitter.
Yes.
And we present to you the following tweet, at Houston Texans.
Texans place a priority on resigning many of their own.
The rest of the time, in this next minute and a half for two minutes, is sports RVs.
Well, here are some of the replies to those tweets.
Here's one from our own pro-nick-low.
This might be the most absurd post I've ever seen.
Did you get in first before anybody else?
Well, a lot of times when it's people you follow.
But it does have 181 likes.
Yeah, I got a lot of likes off that one.
bleeping garbage bleep franchise
you hate the bleeps
and trading away their best player got it
and then it's a gift from that 70s show
of the mom saying dumbass
dependable tough smart
DeAndre Hopkins missed one game in five years
played against KC with a broken ribbon finger
and didn't drop a pass last season
stop trying to spin and just fire Bill O'Brien
Here's another one that says source question mark
Did you guys know
Did you guys know that you traded DeAndre Hopkins?
That's a fair question.
Do you think the staff knew?
But trade their best player for a can of cat food?
No, it's actually a ham sandwich according to Michael Irvin.
How dirty does a social media person feel having to tweet this?
Thanks for sharing an onion article, guys.
That's funny.
This is BS.
We'll just put it that way.
captain. It's a gift that says that.
I can't believe they actually keep posting this garbage
and it's a giff of a garbage dumpster on fire floating down a river.
Does this account manager even think before they posted this?
Whole effing org is a joke, even the social media manager.
There's a gif of Kevin Hart, just being in disbelief.
Not too late to delete this.
Are you freaking kidding me with this bleep?
The fact checker gives you five Pinocchio's.
This has to be some serious trolling.
Gt, F-O-H, hashtag Firebill O'Brien.
Did someone hack the Texans account?
This can't be a real tweet.
Stupid is tweet today.
This is a joke, correct?
I'm looking for one nice one.
What about Texan's care?
She got to have something out there.
You deserve this ratio, L-O-L.
and trading the NFL the best wide receiver in the NFL for peanuts.
So let's do this for a second.
And before you can read any more,
let's pretend we are the text and social media person.
Do you think we went to our computers and said,
this is going to change the culture,
which is currently around our area,
which everybody hates Bill O'Brien?
You think what I'm going to put out there is going to help
or at least slow down the outrage?
You just got to tweet through it.
I don't think you're helping.
You just got to keep going. No, you're like, I've been told I have to do this.
And it's funny, do you notice this, that there's no name attached to it?
That's the other reason why is because people are so devious that if somebody put their name to this,
they'd find out who it is, and they would bombard their emails, and people would call the Texans asking them talk to this person.
And then they would find them on Twitter, and they would send terrible messages.
That's the negativity of social media.
Don't they have their own mouthpiece reporters, DP Sedu?
They have employees that are reporters.
Do you do or whatever.
And I like those people very much.
They're very, very nice people.
I know nothing of them.
They're really salt of the earth people.
John Harris and all those.
I mean, Mark Van derr.
They're all,
but they have a department that's their reporter.
One of them wrote that,
written that?
You would figure or no.
Yeah, there's no question it could have been easily.
Okay.
But they are smart not to put their name to it.
And look,
every sports teams are doing this more and more.
They're having, like,
the rockets don't have.
have any, I don't think the Astros have a reporter that writes that was an employee of the Astros.
No.
Rockets used to have Jason Friedman back in the day.
Yeah, they moved that out of there.
He got later.
But a lot of NFL teams have their own media group.
That's why sometimes press conferences, even after horrific losses, come across as a little more subtle because of the fact that there are team employees asking questions.
Texans lose 31 to 7.
Were you proud of the way JJ Watt played today?
Yeah, great question.
Really proud, played hard.
Yeah.
Thanks, Texan's employee.
So, and like I said, D.P.'s terrific.
Drew is great.
Mark, I'm known for a long time.
They're all terrific people.
But they're just, they're being told from their bosses, put this out there.
But it is interesting that could you do this?
Could you go look at the Texans website, Ross, and find other stories and maybe have a name attached to it?
And would this be the only one that doesn't have a name attached to?
find out. It seems like it would be the only one that says Houston Texan staff.
Actually, in all reality, maybe there were five people that wrote this story.
Yeah, it's true. I'll get the first paragraph. You get the next one.
Yeah. All right. Any other ratio, Teresa, we want to run through?
I think you got the gist of it. Yeah. And by the way, they did put a tweet out there.
It was it Friday afternoon that had a picture of DeAndre. Thank you very much for your time.
Here we appreciate you. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But all by the way, you, uh, you
don't practice hard Monday through Saturday.
That's what's trading your ass.
Let's see.
I went to one article.
It was written by Drew Doherty.
I went to another.
It was written by Houston, Texans, public relations.
Okay.
Well, that doesn't hide it.
That's PR to people writing it.
Yeah, that's the only one that I see that says Houston Texan staff.
Well, again, maybe, look, we're all, we're not, some people aren't working very much.
Maybe it took three to four people at the same time to write this thing.
They have to do what they have to do.
and if they didn't say thank you to DeAndre Hopkins in a tweet,
they'd have been crushed by that.
They were just, I mean, there's just nothing good about any of this.
And let me tell you, gang, it still stings.
And maybe if we had sports to talk about, you know, games, Ross, we would move on to this,
but since we don't, the bull's eye is scurly on an organization that's carrying us.
And the National Football League right now is carrying us,
from free agency sightings to trades to the draft coming up.
up in a month.
Two bungled moves and press releases and tweets.
For that, we appreciate you, Houston, Texans.
Yeah, that's why people are like, I don't get why Florea and other people are like,
the NFL should never be out there.
What?
I don't see one NFL team holding a press conference.
I don't see one NFL team practicing.
Everything is being done right now through video cameras and phones and email and text.
We've been able to have a decent NFL office.
season despite the fact that no one's supposed to go to their office.
So NFL don't listen.
The NFL does make its mistakes, right?
I mean, we're not hiding that.
But the NFL's not making a mistake by having this year.
That's why Adam Silver Ross has been saying, we got to get out there and play.
Once we get some sort of all clear, America needs us.
For people that aren't sports fans, this is a lesson learned.
If the opera doesn't go on, okay, if the local theater doesn't have its performance,
but we are seeing more and more people impacted by the fact that there's not anything on television,
per se to watch on the weekends especially because we have been so accustomed to.
Even the most novice of sports fan have been acclimated and accustomed to having something on our television on the weekend that is sports related.
And I'm sorry, but ESPN the Ocho stuff just, it all resonates with some,
Hey, I like the cornhole.
Wait, what?
Would you please say that for me, please, Nick?
Thank you very much.
Wait, that sounds worse.
Yeah.
What do they call it then?
Game of bags?
I'm not, I'm gonna let you sink on this one.
I'm very comfortable with you doing.
The dodge ball was entertaining.
Not a whole lot of high-level athletes there, but it was entertaining.
Do they have guts or what?
The dodge ball?
Yeah.
What do you mean guts?
Mealy.
Yeah, one of them had a pretty big belly.
He was always the first one out.
So I was going to tweet,
the fat kid is the first one out in professional dodgeball.
Is there a professional dodge ball out there?
Yeah.
Who?
What's the annual salary?
I probably volunteer to play and pay.
So when you play softball as a kid,
would you throw it like you would a football or a baseball or would you go from the side and try to hurl it?
Oh, they do different angles and there's coordinate.
There's actually a lot of strategy involved in the dodge ball, man.
There's a lot of nuance.
I mean, I would do it.
I'm serious.
But I'm not fast enough to, I mean, I'm good enough to throw somebody out.
I'm just not.
my side view would be awful.
Right.
You have to dip, duck, dodge, and dive, and dodge.
Mm-mm.
And that's difficult.
Some of those guys are really good at it.
I'm good.
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I got news for you.
I get to ask a question that I'm not surprised that I get to ask.
Rossi, your question, my question I'm asking is,
what was your favorite PJ Tucker as a Houston roughneck moment?
I'll explain next at 113 on 790.
Left side to Westbrook on the baseline for the tie.
He makes it and he's fouled.
This is Russell Westbrook.
One thing's for sure.
I did not get my amazing style from Matt Thomas.
Oh, hammer job.
That line is amazing.
Half of it is, again, a shot at me and that's fine.
It's all great and we miss you, Russ.
I miss calling Russ's games.
I'd be in Dallas today.
Rockets were supposed to start
Are you keeping track of that?
A little bit.
Rockets were supposed to play
Start a five-game road trip tonight in Dallas
Against the Mavericks.
On that trip would have been
Milwaukee with Janus versus James
and all the bickering they did
around the All-Star game.
Indiana, Detroit, and Philadelphia.
That would have been the longest road trip of the season
and would have been five of the...
The Rockets right now
have nine road games left and 10 home games.
Now, will they get all 19 in?
Highly doubtful.
We'll get more on to this a little bit at the bottom of the air,
but if you were Adam Silver,
you know what, let's spend this.
Bottom of the hour, we have.
Yeah, I'm going to give a little more time of this.
Let's want you all think about this.
If you were positively thinking that mid-June,
we could do this, me, we being America, could do this.
America.
How do you finish out the year?
Nick come up with a plan.
Don't know goofing.
Legitimate, how do you finish off the NBA season?
Baseball is easy.
You just got to figure out the number of games you're going to play
because they haven't started a season yet.
Basketball is way trickier.
How do you finish out the season to declare a real champion
and maintain the integrity of the playoffs?
We'll do that at the bottom of the hour.
PJ Walker, formerly of the Houston Roughnecks.
Former Roughneck Great.
He goes and signs a contract.
with a team that the head coach
used to be his college coach at Temple.
How about that?
So PJ Walker signs with the Carolina Panthers.
It's a two-year minimum deal,
which minimum for them is way more
than anything he'd get in the XFL.
Way more.
Way more.
And he gets to go with his old coach.
Don't they already have a bunch of quarterbacks?
They do.
Competition is never bad.
That's true.
So I think, I don't know how the XFL is
playing it out, but I would beat my chest.
That I took, that a player from my league played in a total of five games and got an NFL contract
out of it.
Don't you think?
Yeah.
Looks good.
How does it?
It's sad, it's a big loss for the roughnecks, though.
Well, yeah, because he's the most, I mean, I mean, not that we're sitting here worried
about who would have won the MVP vote, but he's probably the most recognizableable player
in the league.
He would have been, he would have been, he's ex-FL MVP.
I think we can say that safely.
Yeah, I think we can too.
on the best team of the XFL,
the only one that remained undefeated through the five weeks.
Yes.
So is that what the XFL wants?
Long-term, think about this for a second.
Does the XFL want 10 players a year going to the NFL?
Or, I mean, you'd throw the opposite at you.
Or that they know who they are,
they know their ability,
and that PJ Walker is going to go to Carolina camp,
not going to make the team,
and come back and run the roughnecks,
and that that niche of athlete is going to be a start.
Because I don't think anybody that was a roughneck fan.
And look, the crowds over at TDECU Stadium were really good, relatively speaking.
Those people that went to the game, they didn't particularly care what the talent level was.
They were happy that a Houston sports team was winning games.
That's one of the classic examples in my mind of,
you put the word Houston in front of something, and people might go see it.
And people did go see it.
It was good weather.
It was outdoors.
It was football.
the uniforms look cool
the prices were reasonable,
you're able to tailgate,
and the bonus was they were really damn good.
I don't know.
I don't know if you got a cup of truth serum
into Oliver Luck.
Would he want a certain percentage of players
to go to the NFL to brag on the XFL
or do you say, I'd be better if they just knew who they were
and say, stay here, make a nice living for 12, 13 weeks,
and let's get this secondary league.
Knowing where it is, it's place in the pecking
owner, but yet thriving.
No, I think you want the players to go to the NFL.
It legitimizes the XFL.
If it makes them look better, it makes the talent level in the talent pool look better.
If players of yours are going up to the NFL level and performing or at least getting
contracts and stuff like that, then you could say, hey, look, we're not that far off
from NFL level competition.
Look at this.
We have guys who are excelling here and going to the NFL and doing the same thing.
So you should pay attention to our product because our players are just nearly
about that level. And what you're hoping
is, if you're using that train of thought, that
the next batch of free agents,
meaning players coming out of college, don't
make NFL rosters, come to your
league and play right away. Yeah, and that's
another great point. It legitimizes
you to people who are
thinking about alternatives. Do I want
to go and be on a practice squad and do
nothing? Or maybe I'll get in a, I'll go
to the XFL, I'll get some playing time
and then I'll get noticed by some scouts.
And then that way, so that raises the
level of play and competition. And
and pool of talent in the XFL as well.
I guess the real answer is it would be naive for Oliver Luck to think that those guys that want to be in XFL uniforms want to stay in XFL uniforms and do it for five or six years.
They're all using it as frankly as an open audition.
Because as we said, the minimum contract of an NFL player is probably so much more than an XFL contract.
I don't even know what the dollar amounts are, but it can't even be close.
and by the way, you grow up as a kid wanting to play in the NFL,
you'll adjust and live and appreciate the XFL,
but the end game is to play in the premier sport.
So good for PJ Walker to get that opportunity.
It obviously hampers the Houston roughnecks,
but it's June Jones.
My guess is June Jones will find some other quarterback
who doesn't survive at NFL camp.
We'll come in here and pick up where they left off
and maybe the most successful team next year.
or maybe next year it's just a complete that maybe the XFL doesn't build on that that every year
somebody's going to be good somebody new could be good or maybe they fold with it a couple of years we'll
see this year was not i mean losing basically half your season and all the playoffs was not helpful
but let me ask you this i don't think look i was very much a not against and that that would be too
that's not even close but i had reservations and i think frankly
the XFL exceeded my expectations.
It looked like in the games that I watched on television, granted, they weren't a lot.
There were at least 15, 20,000 people in most of those stadiums.
Clearly in Houston they did just fine.
I don't know how Seattle did.
I don't know how Tampa did or Dallas.
But it felt like those that went there had a good time.
I think the, didn't it fall off after the first week?
As what expected.
The television ratings for sure dropped.
And that's the end game.
Ross is no matter if they draw 15,000 in down.
Dallas or 19,000 in Houston, if no one's watching, the corporate sponsors are not going to be
there. And then at that point, then becomes Vincent McMahon's decision to whether how much he's
going to personally put in this league if he can't get any corporate support.
That's what it comes down. It's the eyeballs more than the people of the particular games.
Right. That's a very small sliver for most leagues. Apparently it looks like most of the teams
were hovering around 17,000 a week. So at 17,000, let's say that it was the pay
of 15 because you're you're cops and people you're charging $20 on average what is that
what's 50 20 oh geez 15,000 times 20 300,000 yeah is it 300,000 yeah to make sure no extra
zero yeah 300,000 that's not going to that's not going to keep a league alive well
keeps it a league alive is the corporate sponsorships the television ratings yes and the
And TV deal is number one.
Yeah.
For any league.
And my guess is...
NFL, MLB, all of them.
Bu. Buying lots of gear, too, would help, too.
But they can't think that even every person that goes to a roughneck game is wearing a roughneck shirt.
It helps if they do.
But, again, maybe we're just lucky that the roughnecks had a very successful season despite only playing five games.
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Justin Reed of the Texans that join us here in a little bit here on the Matt Thomas show.
Doing a lot of good work with Big Brothers, Big Sisters.
We'll hopefully get him in a couple of minutes.
Real fast where we get to him.
If everything works out, what we have the virus under control,
that we feel like we can get back out and be somewhat normal again, Ross.
I think they round off the NBA schedule, so everybody plays a total of 74 games.
I don't think they go right to the playoffs.
I think there's a couple of eight seed spots that'd like for some a little bit of competition to get.
So rounding off a number, whatever that number may be.
I think the first round series is a best of three.
Really?
I think the second round is a best of five, the conference championships, and the NBA finals.
our best of seven. That sounds terrible.
Although that probably gives the Rockets their best chance.
A little high variance game.
Well, I don't think terrible. Get me some live games.
And I don't care if you play best of one.
I mean, save this, because I want you to think about this for a little bit.
Because we've got Justin's going to join us right now.
But think about that.
If the NBA gets back to where they are on the court playing, forget about fans or not fans,
how do you properly wrap up the regular season and go right at the playoffs?
We'll discuss that in a little bit.
Big Brothers and Big Sisters brings us a visit with one of our favorite Houston, Texans.
He doesn't know this, but I can say it.
Justin reads on the Matt Thomas show.
Justin, it's Matt Ross.
Good afternoon.
I would say, how's it going?
But I think you're with the rest of us right now, kind of basically bored, correct?
Yeah, I'm in the same situation.
Quarantined up at home.
Just find her out ways to, I can call my time.
Well, you are working with the Big Brothers and Big Sisters.
We'll talk more about that in a little bit.
Are you a big self-motivator?
in terms of I need to get somewhere to work out,
or can you do a lot of the stuff that you're trying to do in the offices at your house?
I actually still go into rehab every day, Monday to Friday,
into the facility to get my shoulder work doing.
I still train my legs heavily, you know, squatting, leg press,
some conditioning, running on the field,
just ways to stay active, stay in shape,
keep my body composition away that I wanted to be set up,
the better to prepare me for whenever we've.
do resume OTAs and practice whenever that will be.
How often are you updated by your teammates, other guys around the league,
about how much you can do, how much you can be at the facility,
and when you think maybe real life can resume again?
That's actually a great question.
At this point in time, we're kind of just planning it by year.
I think that we might not be back maybe as far as late April, early May, maybe further.
I mean, this is really an unprecedented event, and I'm not sure exactly how it's all going to go,
but I'm just playing my part in the whole situation, staying home when I need to.
I'm still going in in the morning to go get treatment and rehab, and then just passing the time,
finding a way to work on my self-improvement.
Taking the positives in situations, I think this is an awesome opportunity for people to be able to really
introspectively looking to themselves and, you know, find new,
hobbies and work on themselves. I'm going to be re-enrolling in school again. So I feel like
there's a bunch of ways people can still make a positive out of the current situation that we're in.
So you say, yeah, you want to make it and spin it into a positive and you're going back to
school. What else are you doing? Are you binging shows? Are you, I mean, playing video games?
How are you passing the time, Justin? Yeah, I mean, all my, my schedule for the next two months
has been wiped clean. I had a couple travel visits. I was supposed to go to L.A. in New York
in Baltimore for the Ed Block Courage Award, but all of those have been canceled or postponed.
In the meantime, I still try and do what I can to help out in the community, mostly from home.
I'm working with the Texas right now on this community project trying to encourage kids just to read more books.
So I'm going to be recording myself, shooting some videos, sending it off the kids that trying to encourage me to do that.
But yeah, at home, I love games, like board games, card games for playing a lot of cards with some of the fellas.
Got like a pop-a-shot in the garage, just different things like that.
Do you have to Purell your hands before you touch the pop-a-shot?
You know, I should do that a little bit more, honestly.
But I do got the big bottle of Purell set in the kitchen, you know, ready for anyone who wants it disinfectant and time to come into the house.
Justin, you're a world-class athlete, and I'm a slow white man, but man, we are living the same life right now, my friend.
This is awful.
It's terrible.
We need real life again.
This is not how we signed up for.
You were involved with the Big Brothers and Big Sisters.
How did you get involved with them originally?
And what's the message they're trying to send right now to the youth that, frankly, should be in school right now?
Yeah.
I got involved with them last year whenever on a turkey drive during Thanksgiving.
I want to find a new way and a new group.
give back to, and I really wanted to start off smaller.
So I worked with big brothers, big sisters.
We helped out 10 to 12 families or just buying them, groceries, Thanksgiving meals.
Some of the kids, I let them get a toy too, just as, you know, just something fun for them to do.
Just to help out some of these families that's a need and dinner and Thanksgiving.
And, you know, at this point in time, really just, I just enjoyed being in the community.
I know Big Brothers, Big Sisters, right now, they're still looking for ways to get, for people to get involved.
I know money is a little bit tight for a lot of people right now, especially the situation they're in,
but even just ways for people to just still get active and involved by just mentoring.
I mean, right now they're still just acting for people who want to encourage all adults interested in mentoring to sign up at BBBFTX.org.
You know, that stands for Big Brothers, Big Sisters, Texas, dot org.
So triple B like big ball of brand, BVSTX.org.
I want to encourage anyone, regardless of your situation, if you could donate financially, that's awesome.
If you could donate your time, that's just as good.
You know what I mean?
So just ways to still stay involved.
What's Big Brother doing right now?
I know he's still looking for work.
How often are you guys talking about his future?
Yeah, we talk from time to time.
I would love to get him down to Houston.
You know, like we talked about that.
all the time growing up just how fun that would be to play on the same team.
You know, the McCordy twins get to do it.
Yeah.
The Pouncey twins play together a little bit.
And then, you know, JJ's brothers just now got together in Pittsburgh.
So that's really cool for them too.
But, man, if I had the opportunity to play with my brother, that would be awesome.
But I'm not worried about him.
He set two franchise records last season.
He's still in the prime miss career.
He's going to get picked up.
So when you were kids, would you play receiver versus cornerback?
I mean, would you flip-flop?
I mean, when y'all would go each other against each other one-on-one,
what positions were y'all playing?
Was it in basketball, two, baseball, football?
How competitive were the two of you growing up?
Oh, man, extremely competitive.
We just had a competitive household in general.
It didn't matter what it was.
It could be connect for.
They could be basketball.
We had a family friends down the street named Scott and,
Jay and Scott was my brother's age and Jay was my age.
So what we do is we play pickup basketball and we switch teams.
So my brother would be with Jay and then I would be with Scott and we play two on two.
You know what I mean?
That's really who I played the most with Eric.
And then with my middle brother, Ryan, we play soccer all day in the front yard.
As far as football, I've only ever played defense.
I wish I played more offense in high school.
We had such a big team that everybody only played one way.
We had 120 kids on the roster.
So we all just specialized early.
But it didn't matter what it was.
Swim team, baseball, basketball, soccer, track team.
We all played it all.
We all did it all.
We all competed, you know, just to go all have fun and outdo each other.
Who called the most fouls, Justin?
On the two-on-two games.
That was probably me.
You're that guy?
No, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
That's inconsistent with guys in the secondary
who never think pass interference should be called against them.
That is not consistent to who you are.
At that point in time, when I was 13 and he was 18,
he was a lot bigger than you had to do what I could.
Oh, okay.
The point spread down.
Well, all right.
So you were raised right after all.
Let me tell you a week ago, my friend,
we're visiting with Justin Reed of the Texans.
Ross and I were completely flabbergasted, dumbfounded.
We didn't know what to say.
That's not good for radio guys.
when your ex-teammate was moved on to the Arizona Cardinals.
Have you had a chance to reach out to D-Hop?
Say your goodbyes.
How did that conversation go, or have you yet to be able to do that?
No, I haven't.
I shut up a text message.
I know things are moving really, really fast and quick for him right now.
He's been with the team for the eight or nine years.
And, you know, the decision came as a surprise us too.
But, you know, at the same time, I'm happy for him in a situation that he'll be moving on
too. He'll be with a great team as much as I hate to see him go for my team. You know how much
we in the city of Houston all love him here. But, you know, he's going to do great out there
in Arizona. And they got a hell of a team that's building over there too.
I'm going to assume the answer to this. This is yes. But how did he make you better during
the week? Would he give you tricks of the trade about what receivers can do or what they can see
about you and say, hey, we can take advantage of this if Justin doesn't learn how to change
his game a little bit?
Yeah, Hopper was a
He was an all-star teammate, too
In addition to being a pro-ball
wide receiver, he was a pro-bowl teammate
I still distinctly remember
even the first game we ever played
It was against the preseason
In the rookie year versus Kansas City
During the middle of the game
You know, they kept lining up three by one
With Travis Kelsey split out wide by himself
And he came and talked to me
And it was like, you know, every offense in the league
Whenever they line up in that formation like that,
the tight end's going to run a seam or a sling
and then when he told me that tip
and he told me to look for it and I started
paying attention to it I started
seeing that play happen over and over
and over and across
different teams across different personnel
groups you know what I mean it made sense
so he would drop nuggets of information like that
all the time to different receivers
different DBs I mean
when someone needed to be
you know what I mean to be put back on track
if they're not focused enough in the game he would do that too
you know so I had all the love
respecting the world for man he taught me a lot
along with other mentors that
I had on the team like Johnson Joseph
Kareem Jackson, Tyrant Matthew
you know, just learning from the
guys around you, you know, and he was
one of those guys too.
You're making me sad bringing up all your ex-teammates
now that are gone elsewhere. That's
that was a real dose of reality right
there. Before I let you run and we really appreciate you
coming on, tell me about what's going on
with the candlelighters and the kids meals. I know that's
also very important to you right now.
Yeah, I've been working with
The candlelighters for about two years now, I think they're sick organization, as well as kids meals too.
Right now, candleizing, we can't really have people visiting in the hospital.
I want to go see one of my guys, Jake, who I've been with her a year now.
But with the current T-Boid 19 crisis, it's very hard to let anyone in the separate immediate family.
And, you know, that's the right thing to do since a lot of these kids are at risk with their medical situation.
But really still ways that anyone can get involved with that is, you know, a lot of these families still need help with parking assistance, gift cars, snack bags for essential hospital staff.
Candelight is one of organizations.
They work against childhood cancer.
I didn't mention that, but a can't realize organization for childhood cancer.
And they do an awesome job with that.
As well, kids meals, kids meals, their mission is to end childhood hunger in the city of Houston.
they started off with the age group of kids from zero to six years old because it's kind of a forgotten demographic.
You know, once you're seven years old and you're in school, you'll at least get one meal a day.
But before that, these kids don't have any meals.
So kids' meals really strive to go out, deliver meals to each of these kids and families.
And right now, at the current crisis, they've expanded that age range to, I'm not sure if they're doing all over to 10 years old.
I'm not sure if they're doing all school-age kids.
but to really just help out with the situation with, you know, they're just school being out.
You know, so, again, ways to help out with them.
You want to have all the Candleaders organization, www.candal.org.
And as far as you want to have out with kids meals, www. tiny URL.com forward slash KM help, as in kids' meals, help.
you know, every $2 will feed the child, you know.
So I thoroughly enjoy philanthropy.
I think it's important to give back to people because I know when I was growing up,
I didn't get to where I am today on my own.
I had a phenomenal support group around me.
So I really look forward and I enjoy giving back to the community around me.
And, you know, I encourage other people to do the same in the way that they came in the safe way,
you know, with the Seaboid 19 thing going around.
Yeah, very, very poignant words from you, my friend.
we're happy to have you as a text and hold tight.
We don't want you to go anywhere.
Sign a deal.
Whatever you got to do.
We need the good ones around.
So we thank you for the time.
If you got other charitable things going on the next couple months, let us know we'll
be happy to promote and push that agenda along.
And stay safe with you and your family.
And we look forward to getting you guys back on the field in the not too distant future.
We appreciate the time this afternoon.
No problem.
We're all playing on the same team right now with the health crisis.
And I really enjoyed you guys bringing on.
I appreciate you guys time.
everybody be safe out there and you guys as well.
Thank you very much. Justin Reed of the Houston Texans.
We're this here on the Matt Thomas show.
If you can't root for that young man, I don't know if you should root for anybody.
I love the fact that he was able to say that his teammates were such a big part of how things went well.
On the trail, it's hard.
And it drops it down with a left hand hammer.
This is Coach Dan Tonin.
Matt Thomas is a great guy and always listen to the radio show.
I'm mute
What a shot
All right
We ran a little late there with Justin Reed
But it was worth it
Worth it
All right real fast
Top of the hour
We have Deshawn Watson
And Deionry Hopkins
Reaction to it
It's brief
It's just gonna make me cry man
It is
It is
Also there has been a trade in the NFL
That does involve the team we talked about earlier
The Carolina Panthers
Okay
And
What else we got
Oh you got
Believe it
the return of believe it or not, all things, Kenny Rogers.
Oh, yeah.
Can we play islands in the stream sometime next hour?
Why?
It's a great song.
No, it's not.
It is a great song.
Plus, Ross and I have a very quick 60 seconds on grocery stores.
We each have a small story from that.
Oh, okay.
All right, real quick, on the NBA, I say,
pare it down to have a few games of regular season,
get everybody back going again,
determine those eight spots in both the eastern west.
Best of three in the first round.
That really sucks, but you're going to be going to be going against a calendar a little bit.
I would like to see Best of Five, but I could, they're going to be squeezing Best to Three.
What are you going to do, one, one, one? Probably. To Western Conference.
And travel days in between, I guess. Yeah. One one. Play, off day play. Best of five in the seven
in the Western Conference, Eastern Conference finals, and NBA Finals.
I think the majority of interest in the NBA starts when the playoffs starts.
I don't think you should sacrifice.
I say even at the expense of saying, hey, we played 64 games.
We've had, we had, what did they have like a 55 game season before?
50.
And in 50.
So that's more than enough.
Sorry, this is a crisis.
You guys are where you are.
And then we're going to start the playoffs.
I would rather sacrifice regular season games instead of playoff games.
So you go from a two-week.
of practices. I wouldn't want to go any fewer than five games in the first round.
Like you used to do 15 years ago. I agree with you. But they used to have many
series way back in the best of three. That's how the 1890 rockets got hot, right?
Because they won a best of three against a one seat. Yep.
Yeah, best of five is significantly more intriguing. But I don't know if I want to go from
five or six days or practices to gain one of a playoff series. I think you're going to have
to get a few regular season games in to get back to playing 48 minutes.
Nick, your thoughts quick?
Yeah, I would have some sort of like a preseason and then straight into playoffs.
I would not even bother with the rest of the regular season.
See, I think if you're going to play a preseason, you're going to, you want those games to count.
That's why I'm saying you would use those three or four games to give yourself ready.
So how many would you play, though?
It has to be an even number.
So everybody in the league has played the same amount of games.
So my guess is you play, what, the Rockets are, what, 63 right now?
Maybe get it to 68, maybe 5?
I think.
So you would have all those effects eating then.
It could.
Because let's face it,
the Rockets can get to the four,
right?
Can they not?
Yeah,
it's very well.
Yeah,
I would say,
I think you play five regular season games,
whatever,
to get everybody to get to 68,
and then you start the playoff to that.
And maybe you still can do the five regular season games
and then play the best of five.
They're one game behind Utah for the four,
but also with the thunder in between.
So there's no guarantees there.
Yeah.
I just think,
I think you play a few because you don't want nothing and then go right to the postseason.
I don't, you know, and again, look, calendar may dictate otherwise, but that's how I would do it.
You start at June 15th, you play for two months.
You crown a champion on August 15th.
And the start of the NBA season begins December 20th, 2020 with a new NBA calendar.
And you stick with that calendar from now on?
You play 82.
Ukraine a champion late August every year from here on now.
I think it's in the best interest of the NBA.
I do.
I think playing the first two months of the year,
the NBA for the most part is out of sight and out of mind.
All right.
So Deshawn tweets DeAndre with a little reaction.
That's next.
Final hour, Matt Thomas show.
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the other team.
Iconic duos rip and split at the seams.
I don't know how I'm going to make it out of here clean.
Can't even keep track of who plays for the other team.
Iconic duos rip and split at the seams.
So we were guessing at 12 o'clock today.
Well, we weren't really guessing.
We're just being metaphorical speaking.
Who that was for?
Was that about Philip Rivers being a cult?
Was it about Todd Gurley being a falcon?
Was it about Cam Newton looking for work?
Was it about Tom Brady being a buccaneer?
Nope, nope, nope, nope, no, nope, no.
It's about his guy.
DeAndre Hopkins now wearing Arizona Cardinal gear.
DeAndre Hopkins responded a few minutes ago.
He just put up, I mean, what is the official word, name for this emoji?
Prayer hands?
Up hands?
You know what?
Go find it.
I'll retweet it at Sports RV.
What is this called?
Hands up emoji.
It's funny.
I didn't do that and put it at Deshaun Watson, but DeAndre Hopkins did.
And people seem to catch on to that.
Is it a catch emoji?
It's called the raised hand emoji.
Yeah, okay, I'll get that.
Both hands in celebration.
Because he's kept, you know, when something is thrown to DeAndre, he catches it.
That's true.
It does look like he's catching a football.
But DeAndre Hopkins basically acknowledging Deshaun Watson's tweet, and it hurts.
You know who it hurts?
hurts the quarterback.
Hirts the Texans fans.
Hirts the quarterback.
Hirts everybody,
but Bill O'Brien, I guess.
He even hurt.
Actually,
it does hurt Bill O'Brien.
Yeah.
DeAndre Hopkins is bailing his ass out for a long time.
What's the most significant free agent move the Texans have made?
This year?
Mm-hmm.
Randall Cobb signing?
So a,
and I don't want to say he's below average because he could.
He's okay.
The numbers have dropped off considerably.
Randall Cobb, Eric Murray,
Brent Cuvall.
What? Qualve.
QV-A-L-E.
C-V-A-L-E?
Okay.
Jalen Watkins.
Those are the four free agent signings.
They've kept some of their own,
according to the Texans website, written by Texan staff.
Tyrol Adams, Philip Gaines, Vernon Hargraves,
Roderick, J. McCarran, Bradley, Roby, John Weeks.
And the Miami Fairbair, by the way, also re-kept there, too.
So there's that.
It still hurts.
It happened a week ago, and it still hurts.
Albert Breer, if you did not catch it earlier today on the show, wrote an article.
Thanks, Albert.
Some would say it's a puff piece on behalf of the Texans organization.
I would say that.
I think everybody would say that.
So if Albert Breer writes this for the Texans, is he do this for every story he writes,
or do you think there's just special teams he has a good relationship with?
Probably just certain people he has a relationship with.
All right.
Here are the reasons why, if you didn't join us earlier today, this is worthy of recap.
And again, if you'd like to join us on anything we get to this hour, 713-212-5-790, 7-1-3-212-5-790.
He says among the bullet points that DeAndre Hopkins was not looking for an extension.
He has three years left in his contract.
He was looking for just a flat-out raise to put him in the top two or three among all receivers in the NFL because he's a top receiver.
Now, Ross, there's a certain part of you that goes, you sign this contract.
You need to adhere to it.
Yes.
There's also a certain group of people that will say, well, yeah, DeAndre signed that contract,
but if the Texas wanted to cut him tomorrow, in theory they could.
I believe his guarantees were done.
Like, he was out of guarantees.
Yeah.
So, I mean.
That's why players do that.
They say this contract's not worth the paper it's written on.
If he's out of guarantees, it's only natural for you to want another deal.
Yeah, especially when you have been able to back it up with all pro season after all pro season.
So one of the issues was he wanted more money, added out of the three current years.
that were already on his contract.
Two, friction inside the organization.
It had nothing to do with what he did on Sunday.
It was about what happened Monday through Saturday.
And I'll read this paragraph because it is important to the conversation.
On Sundays, he was exemplary.
The rest of the week, according to this is Albert Breyer hearing it from Texans,
meaning I.E. Bill O'Brien.
His practice habits, he didn't practice much at all, became a problem.
And because he was such a big star, he had the ability to carry teammates in the wrong direction,
guys who might not be able to turn it on come game day as easily as he could.
And that was, if not easy, manageable.
That said, it's one thing to keep a guy who may not totally align with the program on an existing contract.
It's another to reward him with a new contract with three years left from the deal
and have to handle the message it sends to the locker room.
And those intangible elements, by the way, are central to how executive,
Vice President, Jack Easterby, is trying to help Bill O'Brien rework the organization.
So what are you saying?
So what are you saying again is this?
Sundays, you were spectacular.
Monday through Saturday, you were a super diva.
And Monday through Saturday, when the guys are out there trying to work, some, many,
one person or none could have been pissed that DeAndre Hopkins,
doesn't practice the way the rest the team does.
Ross, we'll never know the answer to that question.
Well, we'll know one side of it.
We just, Justin Reed literally just was on these airwaves and called him an all pro or a pro bowl teammate.
Yes, he mentioned, it was funny that he said, he says, one Sunday I'm playing and something is happening during, he was doing the in-coaching in the game.
I've just learned through being through this, that if you go into this philosophy of every player is taught the same way, should practice,
way, it's just not the reality. I got news for you. James Hardin is treated significantly different
than Isaiah Hartenstein. It's just the truth. Shouldn't it also, Matt, let's just say
there is contentiousness in the locker room. There is the players who aren't doing things
the right way and going about their business the right way. Whose job would it be to to fix those
kind of things? Well, you go with the coach, right?
The head coach.
Yeah.
So isn't that part of Bill O'Brien's job is to manage personalities,
to manage people, to be a people person and to figure out,
I need to treat this guy this way and I need to treat that guy that way?
Isn't that part of being a good NFL coach or a good basketball coach
or a good Major League manager?
It goes into that job.
Managing personalities is what your...
It's on the job description.
I got news for you.
In a radio station.
in a radio company certain people
Clinton
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Wexler
No
Michael Connor
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We are all beloved by our company
Yes
But we're all not treated the same way
Correct
Okay
They do not treat Rod Ryan
Like they treat me
Not that I'm treated poorly
I'm treated very very well
But there are too many
people in that locker room.
You can't treat John Weeks
like you can treat DeAndre Hopkins.
I'm not saying treat. I'm saying manage.
Everybody's going to have different needs, different wants.
All I know is, is that
if I'm running an organization, I want to try to keep everything
as equal as possible.
But when the chips are down,
DeAndre Hopkins is going to do more for me to win a football game
than Vernon Hargraves is.
It just is.
And so, you have to be.
have to adapt to it.
People are going to be treated a little bit differently.
Doesn't mean they're not viable.
Doesn't mean they have a role.
But if DeAndre Hopkins was being a super diva Ross Monday through Saturday and drop the big ball or got called for pass interference or ran the wrong route or just didn't listen to his court, that'd be one thing.
But have you ever questioned DeAndre Hopkins ever in a football game in your life?
No.
Have you ever thought he looks like he's coasting out there?
No.
He's not running crisp routes.
He's not a wide receiver that's giving in his all.
Going up to go leap a ball to take away interception.
To go across the middle of the field with big, nasty linebackers ready to hit him in the chops.
There are a lot of things you can question about athletes.
Dan Ray Hopkins on a Sunday game day is not one of those type of people.
I mean, he played the playoff game with broken ribs.
he's a gamer
so yeah
is it a pain in the
let me take
if I've been in management
a little bit of my life
it's a pain in the ass
sometimes to have to have
different rules for different people
you'd like for every person
to be you'd like to be able
to manage them the same way
it just doesn't work out that
we were all different
yeah and a good manager
a good head coach
a good whatever if you're in any position
of power and you're good at your job
you manage egos
and you manage personalities
each one on an individual case by case base
And frankly, if you're one of the players, if reading between the lines of the story,
is if there were players that were bothered by it,
well then show up like he does on Sunday and you get the same treatment.
Yeah, that's all you've got to tell him.
The high school coach does that.
If the star player is coasting through practice and the other players think that,
the high school coach will tell the other guys, hey, well, you're not scoring 40 on game night,
so you can't be like him.
I'm sorry, that's the break.
Them's the brakes.
A high school coach can manage that.
Bill O'Brien can't.
If DeAndre Hopkins doesn't run as many routes or practice sessions as Will Fuller,
well, then DeAndre can say, yo, I love you, Will, but you never play.
And your hands are average at best.
My hands are amazing, and I play.
I'm not saying that Will Fuller did that, but point being is that,
and I don't want to get put Justin in a tough spot by, you know,
thorn shade at some people because he looks, he works for the Texans.
That's not our job.
But I did give him the open element of what was.
like to have him and I don't know, he spent
75 seconds talking about how exemplary of a teammate
he was. That's good enough for me.
212 with the Matt Thomas show, 713-2125790.
Believe it or not, it's back. It's for shout-outs, Ross.
We will not let the coronavirus crush America's
fastest-growing sports game show. You shouldn't, Matt.
And Islands in the stream is next.
Oh, geez. Maybe.
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I said I'm to get you with a fine side.
There was something gold.
And to me that I can't explain.
Closer and I feel no.
Don't listen to you.
One of the goats to cut your music.
May you rest in peace.
This is a...
People got married with this song.
Kind of got awkward at the wedding.
Whatever he's telling you, don't do it.
I like the, I like the Mayan Old Dirty Master remake.
This is some foul edition of this song, this classic.
Yes.
Whatever this is, it sucks.
This is way better.
Yeah, it sounds great.
When's it going to stop?
Hurry up.
Yeah, this is much better.
Yes.
Yeah.
I don't believe in bit stealing.
This is a bit steal.
This is way better.
I feel like every day I had a new song to my list of song I'm downloading.
You want to get ghetto superstar?
That's probably not going to happen.
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Canada yesterday officially said, we're not coming to the Olympics.
Dick Pound from the IOC reporting of the USA Today that are probably going to suspend it.
I still see reports on the ESPN ticker that they have not made a definitive decision on this, but we're not going to Olympics.
There's a strong move by Dick Pound putting it all on the table.
Speaking of that, did you see Kirby enthusiasm yesterday?
I did not.
Okay.
Still haven't watched.
Purell.
Okay.
Chas Bono's new part.
Okay.
And electric coffee cup, the reason why there's no more latte lary's.
I don't want to give away any more spoilers than that.
Thank you, Matt.
When I catch up in about six years.
The episode won't be ruined.
Oh, a minute.
You gave me all discreet for not catching up on The Godfather's...
I tried to watch Curb.
I didn't like it.
Oh, my God.
We've been on this.
So, it's over the top.
The dialogue is sloppy.
They're not good improvisers.
Sloppy?
Yes.
You're the only person in America's ever called it sloppy.
I'm calling it sloppy.
They don't write a script, which is fine.
Oh, it makes it better.
In theory, if they're good...
Organic.
Right, I get it.
No, you don't get it.
If Christopher guest films, they don't write scripts,
and those come off good because they are actually good at improvising.
Larry David just sits there and he's just
It's not good to me
It's just the funniest show ever made
Richard Lewis isn't funny
I gotta say that
He's like the most unfunny comedian
Yeah but he swears it Larry in every episode
He calls him names it's really good
He's been good this season
The whole season
And they put in Fonkhauser as a new cousin
Who is played by
Who is in Wedding Crashers, the tall guy
Vince Vaughn
Vince Vaughn
He's in he's a regular this year
Yeah
Okay well he's actually a good actor
And Milakunis made an appearance on the show yesterday.
Maybe I'll have to watch this.
You know how I feel about Milakunis?
You're a big fan of Milakunis, but all we all are.
We are big, big fans.
I just can't, when she does those bourbon commercials, all I can hear is Meg Griffin,
so it's kind of weird.
Yeah, she was good yesterday.
She owns a new jewelry store, by the way.
It's called MK Jewelers.
It's a spite store.
Speaking of Meal Kunis, Dick Pound is number two trending in the U.S.
What does that have to do with Milakunus?
Segment Suspension.
Hello, Ed.
You're on 790.
Good afternoon.
Hey, what's going on, guys?
Listen, I hadn't been able to talk to you guys for a while, man.
Been very busy up until now, so I guess I got a little time on my hand dealing with this coronavirus.
Listen, I want to kind of just trim back a little bit.
I had been able to listen to you guys.
I know you guys are doing an excellent job, so close to that.
The thing is about detection.
It's probably going to be around forever.
I'm shitting over here.
I just don't understand about Bill O'Brien, man.
I don't understand with the only season.
and them.
They trade their best player on the team and return of what?
You know, I'm sitting here watching the ESPN,
and I felt kind of sad for the Houstonian fans,
because two or three experts that were only,
and they had three of them.
And they were talking about how in the world could you trade
one of four out-po players that was out-pro players that was out-pour
three years in a row and give back, but you got back.
The running back, I mean, it's like, it was in existence.
I'm just trying to lay my head around.
Obviously, there was some beef between O'Brien and Hapton.
I mean, because you're going to make, okay, well, I'm the coach.
If I say, you're going to go, you're going to go.
That's the way I'm looking at it because I'm like, you don't do not trade.
Your go-to-go-out.
Your dad is going to keep you at the game in and out year after year.
is I had 27 or 26, 27 years ago, and you get a big one.
Okay, so you feel like you were on.
You know, I feel like he won because, okay, I got the last drop.
You're going, you're out of here because you like a mama.
Okay, now these years, the baby mom's been coming up in there,
and now of a sudden you want to be, you know, there's beef behind that.
I don't understand that.
The baby, if you're going to allow you, you don't know a lot for years as he's been there.
I don't say we got 20 baby mama.
This guy's helping you're going to get, and we can't even keep a while and she will
healthy, law and be home, and you're going to pull the fellow.
There's not a serious.
I'm watching a lot of the fans.
They probably hadn't called them to you guys show.
I'm telling you guys.
Take on the show. I'm the only a true fan, man.
And it helps me that this owner is giving a bill of running the good old bar club.
Man, this man, and he haven't won anything.
You get into playoff.
You ought to know, you might make the first, you might win the first game after that.
We're no good.
We're junk.
And I just, I'm tired of it.
I thought he should have been the one that had been gone a long time ago.
I know he used to feel like that.
I just want to take on that, man.
It's all we've done in the last week, my friend.
Thank you, Ed, for the phone call.
We can't figure it out under any circumstance.
I could hear his voice and his tenter getting more and more upset.
We've done that.
The man is grieving right now.
We're all grieving.
That was us Monday and Tuesday, Ross.
Some people take a delight in reaction.
Bob, I just got an email.
Matt, will you address the Jamal Murray situation?
No, I will not.
What happened?
Jamal Marie is a star for the Denver Nuggets.
Yes.
Have you not heard about this?
What happened?
He has a very attractive girlfriend.
Okay.
Congratulations to him.
They were in an intimate moment, and Jamal decided to videotape it.
Okay, well, you know, that's every couple's right.
And that moment, or said moments,
appeared on an IG
story
about 30 to 35 seconds
and he's claiming
that his IG got hacked
and thus the reason why
we all saw what happened
and the girl
his girlfriend had said
please delete the video
if you've seen a copy of it
and most of the video is gone
I bet I can find it
I, because I'm a consummate professional.
Yes.
Did find the video.
I better not Google this on work Wi-Fi.
How graphic is it?
1 to 10.
10.
Oh, send me a link on the phone.
I'll take a look.
Just Google on your own.
And don't do it on an I-Hart computer.
I want to keep you employed.
That's why I told you to send it to me so I can use it on my phone.
That'll work.
I'll get off the company Wi-Fi.
Go back to that 5G.
So, no.
The answer is I'm not going to discuss
Jamal Murray and what his
girlfriend does to him.
What do you mean?
Oh, that's the video.
227 on the Matt Thomas show.
Good for them.
It's really good, more good for him.
There's a lot of boredom during quarantine.
What else are you going to do?
But when are we going to stop blaming the old
I got hacked?
Why would he post that?
No, he says he didn't post it.
That's what I'm saying.
Why would, if he didn't get hacked, why would he do it?
Because he meant to send to somebody else and he put it on IG by accident.
Who did he meant to send it to?
Could have been his best friend.
Could have been her.
How do you accidentally put it on IG?
Have you ever accidentally put anything on IG?
No.
That's what I'm saying.
So maybe he got hacked because it posted a bunch of weird, other weird stuff apparently, right?
Well, that may have pushed the storyline.
But how does someone get into your IG?
You had your Twitter hacked.
Yeah, but that was because I had a dumbass.
My password was Smith.
for real?
No.
You could
Well, maybe his password is very lax and he got hacked.
Like Denver.
How can you, as somebody who got hacked, say that he's making it up that he got hacked?
How else would he post that video?
I think he was on, again, this is a pure guess on my part, that he wanted to send this to
one of his buddies and he thought he was sending it through a...
That's not an easy mistake to make.
Through DM, it could be sure.
You mean to DM something?
Yeah, you meant to DM on somebody.
Well, then he should text it to him.
that's how I'm going to decide.
I don't know.
I don't use Instagram every day.
So I'm just telling you, I think it's a lot easier to make the mistake.
Okay.
Or maybe he got hacked.
And the girl should be upset because my guess is her Twitter account is.
I heard she has nothing to be ashamed of.
You're red.
You don't normally turn red on this show.
713.
2-1-2-5-7.
I shouldn't even brought it up.
Nor did Jamal Murray
said that either.
This is Cougars head coach
Dana Holgerson.
Matt's kind of like Shasta
without putting on a costume.
He's a big old
The Matt Thomas show continues
on Sports Talk 790.
One of the goats.
Kenny Rogers.
Believe it or not.
Believe it or not.
He also only.
to goat. That's going to be one of the questions. There you go. A little preview.
How would you know if he owned a goat or not?
What do you mean? I mean, there's not Kenny Rogers Farm.com.
Some say that he and Lionel Richie actually wrote this about his goat.
Okay, that's not true. Okay, that part's not true.
So who wrote it? Kenny did or Lionel Richie wrote it?
I thought they both wrote it. Or was it mostly Lionel Richie? And he came up for the idea of the
song on the toilet, I think. Because I think we did Lionel Richie, believe it or not,
We can do a whole subject on toilets.
Elvis down in a toilet, believe it or not.
Yeah.
Yeah, Lionel Richie wrote Lady in the bathroom.
He was on the pot.
See, that image you're never going to get out of your mind to Houston, Texas.
That's what we're here for.
By the way, the Los Angeles Rams have a new logo.
It looks like the LA Chargers,
and the LA Rams' Twitter account is being ratioed for such that.
Oh, that's a shame.
It's, it just, you know, I've learned, Ross, it just doesn't pay to do anything interesting on Twitter because you're going to get ratioed.
It does kind of look like the old Chargers logo.
Yeah, it's a, it's a ram, what do they call those, horns?
Yeah.
But it looks more like a C.
I mean, I don't mean to be critical of the Rams because they have great colors and great uniformists, but the audience is right.
I like the cartoon Ram one.
That doesn't, that's, is that affiliated with them?
Yeah, it's Los Angeles.
Rams.
Yeah, but did the Rams put that one out, though?
This is from their Twitter account.
Okay, I didn't know.
I didn't know, so I'm asking.
But no, the C logo on the L.A. Rams looks like it's L.A. Chargers.
A little bit.
Do you know what the L.A. Chargers starting quarterback is today, apparently?
It's not Jared Goff?
No, it's, no, it's Rams.
I'm talking about Chargers.
Oh, Chargers?
Yeah.
You said Rams, I thought.
Anyways.
Tyrod Taylor.
Yeah, that's right.
James Winston or Tyrod Taylor, who.
Who would you rather have?
James.
Yeah, me too.
Philip Rivers or Tyrod Taylor.
Philip Rivers, for sure.
You know, Philip River is crazy.
He's making $25 million next year.
Yeah.
$25 million.
He's got nine kids to feed, Matt.
He has a house in Florida on the panhandle.
Are they social distancing?
You're not supposed to gather with more than 10 people.
He can't really avoid that.
That's a problem if you can't social, if you have to social distance your own family.
My buddy Ed stalks their house all the time.
He's a big Philip Rivers fan.
That's weird.
It is.
That's uncomfortable.
I don't mean to put you out there, but I did.
It's one segment after putting Jamal Murray out there.
Oh, when you're following this.
I didn't put Jamal Murray out there, allegedly.
That's true.
Girlfriend's cute, though.
I have nothing to add to that part of the conversation.
Did you find it, Nick?
No, I found it immediately.
It took you that long?
No, I found it instantly.
Doesn't take long at all.
The full view?
Yeah, I mean, I didn't watch the whole thing because I kind of gathered what was going to happen in the whole video.
How long is the whole video?
I only saw like 30 seconds of it.
Yeah, I don't know.
I didn't look to see how long it was.
I'm glad you didn't look to see how long it was.
Yeah, we need you working back there.
We need you focused.
Spoiler alert.
You don't really watch the whole thing or any of it, really.
Yeah, I saw it 30 as I was 25.
Let's go to Bobby and Edo on 790.
Bobby, good afternoon.
Hey, what's going on guys?
How you doing?
Great. Thanks for calling. What's up?
Hey, man. I just want to say, from the bottom of my heart, man.
I just want to go ahead and let you guys know.
Thank you so much for keeping us so interesting, even though we have no sports going on.
And, you know, we're going through a lot of stuff here in the city.
And I'm a long-time listener.
And it's going to say, good job.
It's keeping up being able to come out of the content.
I can't imagine how hard it is in no sports.
It is, we are honored to have this job.
It's challenging.
I wouldn't even say difficult.
It's just challenging.
But that's okay.
Because once we get sports back again, we're going to have a, we're going from, if we were
worrying about a diet, we're going from like eating healthy with salads and low-fat foods
to we're going to have buffet when everybody comes back at the same time.
Right on, man.
Right on.
Well, I did have a sports-related question.
I'm in the history of the Olympics, man.
I mean, if the Olympics go get pushed back, would they do it a year?
Would they just wait another four years?
I mean, how does that happen?
And as far as eligibility for the athletes, I mean, how's all that work?
They're saying 2021.
And that's up for, that's certainly conjection.
There could be some thought of 2022.
But from what the initial report, if it is accurate, Dick Pound said, 2021.
Man, well, thank you so much for your answer to my question.
I mean, you.
All right, Bobby.
Thank you.
Don't be a stranger to the show.
Nice to hear that.
And look, you're not going to hear, we have nothing to talk about.
We're just not going to do that.
It's not true.
First of all, it's not true.
It's almost over.
Yeah.
We've been fine this whole time.
And secondly, we need to, we are here because we need a little separation from this.
I mean, as much as I give Nick Grief and Ross Grief, I need to see these guys every day.
I'm here for you, Matt.
I mean, maybe I mean, I don't want to see you a lot.
I mean, three hours is plenty.
Myself and Dick Pound are here for you.
I've never made Dick Pound.
Jamal Murray has.
If you like to.
How do you know that Jamal Murray and Dick Pound met each other?
I saw the video
Dick Pound's trending right under National
Puppy Day
National Puppie Day holding his tone over Dick Pound
Brian and downtown on 7-Henohy
Hello Brian
Hey what's going on man
How you doing?
Good good
Hey you know I got a question for you
And this is hypothetically of course
But I just have this distinct feeling
That something's going to go haywire with the Texans
Like it's either going to come down to Bill O'Brien
or Deshawn Watson
Now, that may sound crazy, but I'm just getting this funny feeling that Deshaun's not happy.
I don't know how many of the Texans could be happy right now.
I mean, something's got to break loose here pretty soon.
Do you think there's any possibility that this might be true?
Because, I mean, what you're hearing on supposed Twitter's, I don't believe nothing really.
But, I mean, it's hard to believe that Deshaun would throw something like that out there.
But, I mean, what's really going on here?
If it comes down to Deshaun or Bill O'Brien, I'm keeping Deshawn myself.
Bill O'Brien can go for all I care.
What do you think, Matt?
Thank you, Brian.
If it's a stack of newspapers against Bill O'Brien, I'm keeping the stack of newspapers.
If it's, I mean, I would have let him go after 4 and 12?
I wouldn't have given him an extension, check.
I wouldn't have given him power to fire a general manager.
Wouldn't you have kept D'Andre Hawkins over Bill O'Brien, too?
Yeah.
And the McNair's wouldn't.
Who was that terrible offensive?
Matt Khalil.
I kept Matt Khalil over Bill O'Brien.
Calam McNear disagrees.
Or what was that other guy?
Some of the B?
He was terrible too.
Well, Celio Calamente, he's still there.
Brandon Brooks.
No,
Xavier Suafel.
I don't have Xavier Suafel over Bill O'Brien.
Bill O'Brien is the most dangerous man in a Houston sports organization.
Brino Jacamine.
that's who I'm thinking of.
Yeah.
He was in the godfather, too.
No, he was terrible, though.
Wasn't he on the boat?
Brino Jacamini wasn't on the boat, man.
It's not Brino.
It's not Brino.
Oh, who are you thinking of?
No, you said it, Brina.
It's not Brino Jacamini was on the Texans.
No, Brino Jacamini was on the boat with Frito.
No, he wasn't.
And when I went on the lake, on Lake Tahoe, he made sure.
Brino Jacomini made sure that Frito didn't come back.
you're thinking was it Al Neri that killed him or the other guy?
What was the other guy's name?
Yeah, I think it was Al what killed him?
Fredo.
No, what is Jacamini's real first name?
Brino.
Mm-mm.
Is it Brino? B.R. E and O?
Brino Jokamini.
It really was Brino, huh?
Yeah.
I went to one mafia wedding in my life.
You did?
I did when I was a kid.
Did crash it?
No, I was invited.
Actually, my grandparents were invited.
You invited by?
The family.
My uncle.
It was like the John Gotti wedding or one?
My uncle married a girl whose parents and family were associated with a mafia family in Michigan.
Really?
Yeah.
Should you be talking about this?
Nope.
I'm going to end it right here.
Certainly not mentioning the name.
That was also 1982, so I think I'm okay.
Yeah, the Kosa Nostra thing is not really around as much as it used to be.
Thanks, FBI.
No, thank you, FBI.
Oh.
As long as you're not running numbers or loan sharking from one of them, you're fine.
This is Austin Rivers.
It's good.
It's back.
Hey, it's the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 7.9.
Wow!
I woke up this morning with the sundown shining in him.
I found my mind in a brown paper bag.
But then I tripped on a cloud and fell a eight miles high.
I tore my mind on a jagged sky.
I just dropped in.
To see what condition my condition was in.
Well, this is a young, young Kenny Rogers.
Have you ever?
You've never seen the Big Lobowski, have you?
Bits and pieces of it.
Okay.
That one I love, but I don't know if that's your style.
I've seen a little bit of it.
My uncle, who just turned to grandfather,
congratulations to my Uncle John,
is the biggest Big Lobosky fan of all time.
It's a great movie.
It's very rewatchable, funny, good.
But some people, I've recommended to some people, and they have not liked it.
All right, my top five, Kenny Rogers songs, those are you playing at home.
We're not.
At number five, she believes in me.
Number four, daytime friends.
Number three, don't fall in love with a dreamer.
That's a duet with Kim Carnes.
Number two, islands in the stream with Dolly Parton.
And, of course, number one, the gambler.
Lucille and Coward of the County really good, too, but they don't make my top five.
Can you even name seven Kenny Rogers songs?
Yeah, I'll put number one, probably you got a friend in me.
And number two, I love L.
then, geez, number three.
You're on segment suspension.
That's a tough one.
All right.
Short people, I think I would go with number three.
I didn't say Randy Newman songs.
I'm amazed you got that many Randy Newman songs.
Yeah, you know more Randy Newman songs than you know Kenny Rodgers songs?
What's the matter with you?
The gambler, islands in the stream, and I think I'm tapped.
Yeah.
A couple of things.
Stephen Gaskowski just got released by the New England Patriots.
Oh.
He has heard a lot last year.
That comes really a zero surprise.
He's literally one of the greatest kickers of all time.
And by the way, speaking of the Patriots, there's an ESPN piece out there.
I don't know who wrote it, but it's good.
It's behind the scenes of why Tom Brady left the Patriots.
It puts every bit of responsibility in the blame on Bill Belichick.
That Bill Belichick wanted Tom Brady gone actually, frankly, before this season,
and that he had been trying to move on from him,
and that Tom Brady
wouldn't let it happen
or...
Well, Tom Brady
wanted a long-term extension
to get to 45 years old
and Bill Belichick just told
Ryvercraft, look, he's been around
longer than I wanted them to.
We got to move on.
So that's, I mean, so it's about money.
Ross, you ever notice it's always
about money at the end of the day?
Of course.
Business.
Because we try to like, oh, this is fun,
this is sports.
This is about passion and championship.
Because DeAndre Hopkins and team,
that's about money.
DeAndre Hopkins is part of it, too.
Yep.
It might be a large part of it.
of money. Huge. It's never not about money. And in Tom Brady's case, Tom Brady wanted to play
until he was 45, making Tom Brady type money that he got in Tampa Bay for the next two years.
And Bill Belichick's like, we're not going to spend that kind of money on this guy.
So yeah, Seth Habersham, I think, something like that, is the writer at ESPN.com.
It's basically Tom Brady and Bill Belichick just couldn't stand each other towards the end.
Robert Kraft clearly considers Tom Brady like his son,
big paper spreading the Tampa Bay paper over the weekend.
I guess Robert Kraft would like to play him to least 50,
but at some point you have to let the coach make the ultimate decisions on these things.
How far away is Tampa Bay from Jupiter?
Florida or the planet.
Robert Kraft, did he stop by to drop off?
Oh, it's probably three hours.
Did he stop by to drop off the release?
Thank God you put in the release as compared to saying stop by and release.
you putting the word
the word thunner
made it a lot simpler.
I'm just asking a question.
Five minutes left to go on the show.
What should we do?
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The category today is all things about the goat.
Kenny Rogers may rest in peace.
I'll read your statement about Kenny Rogers.
Statements completely and utterly accurate.
You'll say this.
Believe it.
It's statements erroneous.
Full of Bunk and man up.
You'll say this.
Two believe it or nots in a row will win your prize.
Ross, what is that prize?
You can get a shout out.
You have a few seconds to say hello to somebody in your family
or just to say nice things about Matt.
Or you could say follow SportsMT or your Twitter account.
Yeah, put your Twitter account out there.
That's fine.
And how about this?
How about if you're thinking about marrying that special girl,
propose to her via a shoutout on believe it or not.
Is she listening?
I'm just saying strange things can happen.
If she's smart.
Hi, Bill.
Hey, man, I have a quick question.
No time for that.
Uh-huh.
Go ahead.
If you had work and you just find out your wife had Corona,
would you go home or would you fire that?
Would you hang in here now?
What would you do?
I would put her in isolation,
just like everybody else is going to be an isolation.
But, you know, well, you know, we live in a, you know, like a town hall apartment.
It's not that much room.
Well, then there's a Marriott down the street for you.
Let's go.
Kenny Rogers was born into a musical family.
His mother was a piano teacher, his father, a guitarist that played in several rockabilly bands.
Believe it or not.
That's unbelievable, but not.
Damn.
Second for the shoutout.
Before getting into country music, Kenny Rogers played jazz and was even.
played stand-up bass for a jazz trio. Believe it or not?
You know what? He got a little fold in him. I'm going to say believe it. Believe it.
All right. I want to get a shout out to Matt Thomas and a crew. Man, y'all are best. Love y'all.
All right. Thank you, Bill. We don't hate you nearly as much.
Roger on 790. You ready to play Believe it or not?
Believe it. Outside of music, Kenny Rogers was an avid photographer and is even in the
International Photography Hall of Fame.
Believe it or not?
That's a not.
Believe it.
Oh, damn.
Sorry.
They gave him a lifetime achievement award as well.
I didn't realize there was an international photography Hall of Fame.
I didn't either, but he also gave one.
We have open lines.
Imagine that.
No prizes and people don't want to play America's Fast- Growing Game Show.
7-13-2-1-2-790.
7-1-2-125-79.
Jay on 7-90.
You're ready to play, believe it or not?
Believe it.
The Kenny Rogers Roasters Restaurants are no longer in the U.S.
But are a big hit in Asia with locations.
in Malaysia, Indonesia, Cambodia, and more.
Believe it or not.
Makes no sense, so I'm going to say, believe it.
What is it?
Believe it.
Believe it. I'm sorry.
We don't have an answer on there.
My bad.
Statement number two for the win.
Kenny Rogers suffered a mild heart attack in 2004,
but did not announce it to the press until many years later.
Believe it or not.
Not.
Not as right.
Not.
All right.
Another shot out.
Let me put you.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Go ahead, Jay.
Who do you want to shout out to?
Shout out to y'all.
And check out of active donkey podcast on Spotify, I-Hart iTunes, all that, man.
Best podcast, Undiscovered.
That's a shout-out.
That's how it works.
Let's go.
Line number one, Josiah on 790.
You ready to play, believe it or not?
Believe it.
Kenny Rogers was married five different times and then five children.
Believe it or not?
Not.
Yeah, he did.
He married a question.
a bit. I think he married one of those he-ha-h unhmies at some point.
I haven't done that song yet today, thank goodness.
Hi, John, you ready to play, believe it or not?
I guess.
Kenny, oh, geez, don't sound too excited about it.
Kenny Rogers was an avid animal lover and kept a goat as a pet.
The goat's name was Smitty, and Kenny said it was one of his best friends.
Believe it or not?
Believe it.
Statement number two for the win.
Kenny Rogers was also a very high-level.
level tennis player.
He played for over eight hours a day for 10 years and achieved a national tennis ranking.
Believe it or not.
Yeah, he did.
Sorry on that note.
How diverse was Kenny Rogers.
Owning goats, playing tennis, stand-up bass in a jazz band.
Basically, life of Adam Clinton.
Kenny Rogers Roasters.
Yeah, I never had Kenny Rogers Roasters.
He's in the International Photography Hall of Fame.
It's like a Boston market.
We're going to have to go to Asia, I think.
It's wildly popular in Asia.
How many times did you listen to Islands in the stream this weekend, Matt?
I'm going to do it at about 301.
You're not going to listen to the A team?
Yeah, thanks for talking about not wanting to tease ahead on our show today
because you wanted to play this game of yours.
Kenny, okay, your show or islands.
And thanks for using my response to the Texans tweet.
But that was a video.
I can't video response.
You can play the audio on the air.
Of what?
The guy talking about being a grown-ass man?
No, Mike Gundy's saying,
That's not true.
It's garbage.
Get your facts straight.
It was perfect.
You can play it?
Thus, the 18.
After I listen to Isles in the stream, I'll get you guys at 302.
So it's a four minutes, 30 second song.
Okay, 306.
Can we play the audio of the Jamal Murray video on air?
No.
And you're not going to be in your car at 302.
You've got to get down to the garage.
Jamal Murray leads off the show next.
Sports Talk 7 and 8.
Talk to you guys tomorrow, dude.
