The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - The Matt Thomas Show : Friday Great Debate, Fantasy Five
Episode Date: April 3, 2020The Matt Thomas Show with @SportsMT, @SportsRV and @ProNickLow 4/3/20Anything Goes Friday!Friday Great Debate 1 : Mario, Vince, or Reggie (26:14)Worst Team Names In Sports (39:10)Evan Gattis' Comments... on Mike Fiers and The Astros Cheating (1:00:58)Friday Great Debate 2 : DH in Both Leagues (1:22:18)Fantasy Five (1:58:02)
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So much larger than life.
Yeah.
Lunch timers.
Is the Matt Thomas show.
Welcome to a Friday edition of the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 790,
alongside Nick Lowe, our producer, our friend,
a man who gets suspended probably four segments per day.
Our co-host, Roswell, Riala.
I'm Matt Thomas.
It's nice to have you with us.
as we enjoy
a great night of television
in sports. It just was.
First, I sat back with the
oldest son and we watched
the greatest college football game ever played
between Ross's Texas Longhorns
and Sean Salisbury's
USC charges. By the way, Sean
donning the sidelines of the Rose Bowl
with Marcus Allen,
Ronnie Lott,
Anthony Munoz?
I mean, there were some heavy hitters,
Hall of Famers guys.
And then Texas had Matthew McConaughey.
Nobody on the Texas online?
I don't know.
My guess is I don't think Earl would have been in a walking position at that point.
He's not been confined to a wheelchair,
but he goes around a lot to it with one.
Such an amazing game.
And I have been one of the biggest Keith Jackson fans you'll ever find.
I mean, there's a voice of the childhood.
I mean, for college.
Alabama.
College football on ABC.
Live from Tuscalo, Alabama.
It's the Cripsen Tide of Alabama against the Auburn Tigers.
And this ABC exclusive college football, I mean, just great.
He also did the 86 national championship.
I'm a little disappointed.
Well, I mean, it's early.
Yeah, okay.
But I think it was one of his final national broadcast.
I think it was his last one.
I know he had cut back to doing just West Coast.
games. And maybe that was the last one. That'll be a quick check on that one. But for the game as good as it was,
that was not his finest work. And look, he was mid-70, so he clearly lost his fastball.
Yes. But there was a lot of what's going on. And he didn't know. Yard line. If he's inbounds,
out of bounds, out of bounds. He thought Vince Young fumbled when he pitched the ball back.
And by the way, Vince Young was down on one of those pitches late in the game.
That's fine. It would have been first and goal. I mean, first down in the 10th.
10 or 11.
But it was yet another reason why we need instant replay
because that would have been an easy call.
Well, there was instant replay there.
But it just wasn't good.
Because they got, you know, it happens in NFL.
Sometimes there's a play that seems obvious,
but they don't get it, they don't get it off in time.
And then they rushed the extra point and missed it.
Even though Keith Jackson called it a make, but it was a miss.
Two missed extra point.
No, a missed extra point and two Miss Phil goes, that what it was?
For Pino?
It's something like that.
Pino Noir.
I mean, you had to have called him that at some point.
David Pino wasn't the greatest.
He's no dusty Mangum.
Yeah, I've no history of Mr.
Pino being in the NFL.
Would that be safe and saying?
David Pino was reliable enough.
Was he?
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't have a great history of David Pino.
But the point being is, it was an amazing football game.
It was just as good as I watched it live when I was living in Salt Lake City in 2006, right?
Early January.
January 4th, 2006.
And for those of you like Sports RV, who just loves him in Texas more than life itself,
that was probably your 40th time to watch the game.
If I'm being 100% honest, how many times have I seen that game?
probably at least 12.
From start to finish.
Yeah.
Okay, if I've seen 75% of it at least 12 times.
Yeah.
That might have been my third or fourth.
Is that wrong?
Is that too much?
No, because the Longhorn Network puts it on an endless loop.
I mean, name a day in the broadcast schedule the Longhorn Network, they don't put that game on.
Yeah, that's the thing.
Like, for the entire nation, it was like, wow, USC versus Texas.
For me, I was like, oh, it's Thursday.
And even though I did tease about the fact that ESPN moved the game, you know, they said
we're going to move ahead in game.
Yes.
That game had been edited for years.
I mean, they didn't all of a sudden say,
we've got to get this for Scott Van Pelt at Sports Center.
That broadcast with its editing had been done for several years.
They were just replaying that version.
And they wanted to be a sports center to start 10, so it's whatever.
Yeah, you put it in a tight window of two and a half, three hours, whatever it was.
And on top of that, they didn't take away touchdowns.
It was just series.
We missed some three-yard runs from Linda White and Selvin Young or whoever.
You see a young, shifty Jamal Charles out there on the field as well.
How many total pros played in that game?
Out of the 44 starters, 34 of them got at least some playing time in the regular season of the NFL.
So I will say that was...
That's one of the most stacked games ever.
I loved that my 19-year-old sat with me and watched the game.
And, you know, obviously he was not even six yet.
So he had no recollection of...
He knew about the game, but to sit and having...
And that's part of the enjoyment of watching some of these retro games, is that there are games that I was...
As a kid, I remember that I got a chance to catch up with.
and then watching my son enjoying, like, wow, that's him, that's him, that's him.
That was a really enjoyable experience.
Yeah, but the thing is, though, thinking of all that talent and, like I said, 34, the 44 starters getting into the NFL, none of them were really huge stars.
I mean, Brian Robeson had a really good long career.
Cedricin.
Frosty Rucker had a good long career.
Brian Arakpo.
I mean, did I say Brian Rackpo?
It's like, but none of them were multiple time, pro-ball, all-time Hall of Fame.
Even Reggie Bush's NFL career wasn't anything close to what we thought it was going to be coming out.
Matt line was a golden boy. Reggie Bush was supposed to be the goat. Vince Young.
You can go on and on and on and on. But that's, you know what, nobody, if you just take it for face value what the game was, it was amazing with so many stars.
And a very sloppy start, frankly, with turnovers and a missed field goal. It won't be a game that it was the last one standing won the championship.
And that's exactly what happened with VY and the Longhorn. So went from that.
to game seven of the NBA finals
1994 sports RV
NBA TV.
See, they must have been listening to show.
No, they weren't.
No, they were.
That was programmed days in advance, I'm sure.
No, they probably were in the ivory towers in New York and said,
yeah, we're listening to Matt Thomas on Sports Talks, 790 in Houston.
And yeah, he's right.
Houston is getting crushed from Final Fours to World Series to basketball games to other
pro games. Oh, by the way, we'll get to more of that in a second. And let's go ahead and
give something to the city of Houston that is so richly deserved. And that's game seven
the finals. I kept looking for myself along the scorers table. Of course. Well, I wanted to see how
atrocious I looked. I'm sure you look great, Matt. Oh, no. I can tell you what I wore that day.
What you wear? White shirt. Long sleeve. Like a plain white shirt?
Plain white shirt. With a cheesy ass rockets tie. They gave me.
Hold on. A dress shirt? A white, plain white dress shirt.
Oh, dress shirt.
Okay.
Yeah, what's wrong with the white dress shirt and a tie?
The tie was like...
I mean, you look like a waiter at a steakhouse, but I mean, that's not a big deal.
Well, I was Portly as well.
Like you said, you look like a waiter at a steakhouse.
I had hair growing on the sides.
I think all of it up top was gone, or most of it was.
Really?
Yeah, I think so.
By 94?
Yeah, I was starting to lose it in the early 20s.
Dang.
I kept it on the sides for way, way too long.
It's just all that male dominance in testosterone just gets the hair out.
I wish it was the case
But I was thankful that I was unable to find myself
Because I remember what I looked like
I remember what I wore
And remember the party after
Yeah, just go back to Facebook
Yeah, I think you had a really good time
At the party after I've heard
I've heard of it
You know, I've never heard that full story from you
I mean, maybe today's a day I could tell it
Oh, I mean, I want the full off-air story
Oh, you want the off-air story?
Yes
Because the off-air story is much better
than the on-air story.
Exactly.
Okay, well, you know, we could podcast that
The Night of the Championship.
It's just 15 minutes about the championship?
It'd probably take longer than 15 minutes.
I thought you were doing it's just 15 minutes about Tiger King,
and then you're doing it's just 15 minutes about Ozark.
Yeah, I got to get to those.
I'm kind of behind.
So you're all done with Ozark, right?
So, oh yeah, Ozark's done.
By the way, I found out this week, Ozark, it's not named after the mountains.
It's named after a city in Missouri.
The name of the show is Ozark, not Ozarks.
Okay.
Did you know that?
Nick, did you know that?
Yes.
Oh, well, then maybe I'm the only one didn't know it.
You came across very matter of fact back at me.
It says it right on the screen every time an episode starts.
Okay.
So I'm feeling good about ourselves.
We got a great college football game on.
We have a good NBA championship of 1994.
And then I wake up this morning I put on the NFL network and they're showing the chiefs and Texans.
By the way, speaking of the Texans, they're having a lot of,
a town hall meeting today with members,
with some members of their season ticket holders.
On the conference call will be,
I've only seen the invitation,
I think my buddy Larry and Stafford put it out there in Twitter.
The invitation is for season ticket holders.
The invitation is coming from
Jack Easterby, the executive vice president of whatever he does,
Bill O'Brien, and I believe also Cal McNair is going to be on this conference call.
And then Mark Vanderbier is going to emcee this thing.
Cal McNair is going to speak?
I don't know that. I don't know if Cal's in there for sure. I know that Easterby is on there for sure. I've not seen the legitimate email. So if you guys have an email and send it to me either via Twitter or through my email account at mt. At sports 790.com. But it's going to happen at three o'clock this afternoon. It is not open to the media. And the gentleman that will be on that conference call that town hall meeting will not be taking any questions.
Oh, that's what? Except for Mark. It's not a town hall meeting. Town hall meetings mean town the town asked questions.
Not this one.
It's a town hall press conference.
Well, it's more like a lecture.
It's a town hall lecture.
Yes.
It's a town hall propaganda machine.
Yeah.
And so I'd like to be able to do a segment of what will they be asking them, but the fans won't get a chance to ask any of those questions.
Is someone going to record the lecture and send it to us?
Well, I would certainly hope so.
Can we get on this somehow?
I have not received media access to it.
Not saying that maybe not McLean or some of those other beatwriters will get on them.
there, but at this point, I've not received.
We are visiting with the season ticket holders.
If you would like to listen, here's how you do it.
We need a savvy season ticket holder that can record a call.
Savvy season ticket holder.
If you're one of those, let us know.
713-212-5-790.
7-1-3-212-5-7-90.
We start something today that we'll do every Friday until we resume with games,
however long that may be.
We will have two Friday great debates, Ross.
One will be at 1230 and one will be at 1.30.
All right, wonderful.
One of them each week will be something that happened in the past that we relive.
One of them will be a somewhat of a topic that is currently being discussed or at least has been within the last year or so.
And I thought because of the game between Texas and USC yesterday, we would give the VY, Mario, Reggie, an opportunity to compete with is Matt Schaub and elite quarterback?
And should we have bought, should we have built Bud Adams a new stadium?
The thing is, though, Mario was out of left field, right?
At that time.
Oh, for sure.
For sure.
I wasn't even here in the market, but I remember waking up in Salt Lake seeing Texans on the verge of signing Mario Williams.
I remember the over-Mario Williams?
The night before the draft.
I remember reading that story on ESPN.com.
Yep.
Yep.
So we gave you a chance to vote on those three, and the poll numbers are in.
And you'll, I would say you'll never guess which one, but it would take you no time to figure out which one.
So we'll have that as part of our Friday great debate.
Brian T. Smith is with us.
and also at 2.30 today.
Ross and I with a Fantasy 5, the category is alive or dead, past or present,
the greatest divas all time in sports.
I believe there is a definitive number one.
It took, and I told us to Ross and I texted it to him last night,
it took me about 10 minutes to come up with 20 people.
Now, diva doesn't mean a hole.
diva doesn't mean
um
locker room problem
because the top two people on my list
one current one past
are some of the greatest athletes
that have never ever gotten in trouble per se with the law
or never caused problems but you definitely could tell they were divas
and I think when you think of divas you think of it out you know
just walk into a room think everybody should bow down to them
they wear fancy coming you just you guys know what a diva is
I mean, you know.
So we will do the greatest sports divas as part of our Fantasy 5.
You'd like to join us today.
It isn't anything goes Friday.
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It's how you reach our show.
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If you watched last night's Texas-USC game,
did you enjoy it as much as I did,
or did you have just as much fun watching Game 7 of the NBA finals
from the 1994 season where your Rockets brought home their first ever championship.
1214 with Ross and Nick.
I'm Matt.
This is Sports Talk 790.
The pandemic continues.
The no damn sports pandemic.
I'm not leaving my house.
Luckily, the most infectious lineup in Houston sports continues.
Now, here's masked, rubber-gloved, but still Jesus-sandled, Matt Thomas.
Sanitize those toes, would you?
You don't know where they'd been.
Somebody's got too much time on their hands.
It is the Matt Thomas show.
1217 is our time.
We will get to our great debate at 1230, but we do want to mention.
something that came across yesterday. Everybody's doing podcast. And everybody, and by the way,
we need to celebrate the life of Bill Withers who passed away. Was it late last night or today at the age of
81? I'm not sure, but may he rest in peace? And we're going to play some butt music here,
starting in the next segment of the show. So, yeah, Nick. Nick, we figured out he's got five hits,
so please play all five of them. And if we've got to rotate them, so be it.
What's the fifth one? What are the four you're thinking of?
So we got lean on me, ain't no sunshine, use me, lovely day.
Just the two of us.
Just the two of us.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Well, just the two of us may be my.
Uh-oh.
They're all five bangers as the kids would say, man.
But lean on me to me, I mean, that's the classic one.
Mm-hmm.
But man, just the two of us is good, too.
Really, really, really, really, really good.
So we'll play all five of those, and we may just hell rotate them.
Who knows?
Rossi, it's anything goes Friday here on the radio program.
and if you want to explain the essence of that to the audience,
I would certainly appreciate that.
Let's see.
We got a call yesterday about hookers.
So basically that's what we do,
even Monday through Thursday on the nighttime show.
And certainly when there aren't live sports,
but anything you want to get to on a Friday afternoon,
713-2125-790, 7-13-2125-790,
whatever's on your mind.
You need some life advice.
Maybe you're just stressed out.
You want to just call Matt and relax a little bit.
Talk it out.
Lean on me.
Lean on Matt.
When you're not to.
strong. He'll be your friend.
But maintain social distance.
Yeah. Well, and I don't lean on him physically.
You can like mentally lean on me.
Figuratively.
All right. The Athletic 755 podcast is the Atlanta Braves version of the podcast.
You know the Astros with Jake have the Crawford talks?
They mean theirs after Aaron, Hank Aaron?
Yeah.
That's kind of lame.
How about Turner talks?
Wait, they're not a Turner for a moment.
No, 755 is real meaning that they're obviously saying that they're the, that's the real
home run King, not Barry Bonds.
Yeah, but let them figure that out.
No, I want to spend 10 minutes figuring out why they call their podcast is because I think it's lame.
Why don't you call them?
I like Crawford talks.
It's good.
I mean, you got to come up with something punny.
Yeah, you sure do.
How about the, it's funny that one in the Arlington is, uh, Rangers suck podcast.
I don't think that's it.
I think it is.
I think it is.
All right.
Uh, so Evan Gattas, a former brave one on the show theirs yesterday.
And basically, uh, toward, they, they split it up into two different segments in the last,
I think the last half hour, 40 minutes of their podcast was concerning Evan and his reaction to all the cheating stuff.
And I went to go listen to it.
Frankly, the audio quality is not spectacular because it sounds like Evans on a conference call.
And he also swears quite a bit because you can swear on podcast.
So it would be a lot of editing on our part.
We could get it done.
But me reading it is just as effective as basically what he had to say.
So he was asked why baseball fans,
are so angry, especially since the Astros in 2017 World Series won it.
Here is some of his quotes.
If our punishment is being hated by everybody forever, then so be it.
And I don't know what should have been done, but something had to be blanking done.
And I do agree with that big time.
We obviously cheated baseball and cheated fans.
Fans fell duped.
I feel bad for fans.
He would also go on to say that he is not mad at Mike Tiger, Mike Fires.
He says once the system was in place, he said the pack mentality got out of control.
One more set of quotes.
I don't know how to feel yet.
I don't think anybody.
We didn't look at our moral compass and say, yeah, this is right.
It was almost like paranoia warfare or something, but we did.
But what we did was wrong.
And again, there's a lot of F bombs and lots of H.S. bombs in there.
That's the essence of what he had to say.
And he's not the only one that's kind of saying.
And they've had three or four other teammates that are no longer with the organization and say the exact same thing.
he is having me the latest one.
And look, Evan's great.
I've always enjoyed Evan.
I'm not mad at him, sad at him, blaming him, shouldn't have done it.
I mean, he's just the next person on the list that was interviewed.
And if you're going to interview a former Astro, who's no longer has anything to say, nothing to protect.
Retire, I mean, recently, I mean, recently he's retired.
Well, he didn't play last year, right?
So he was really, he's been retired for a year and changed.
The baseball retired him.
Yeah.
But point being is that he probably feels a little more free to discuss these things.
My guess is also Ross that when George Springer and Jose Al-Tube and Carlos Correa when they all retire,
they will all come out and say a lot more than what they're saying right now.
That's just what naturally happens.
There will be books on this eventually.
And maybe we'll get some more information then.
But we're looking at five to ten years from that.
Probably.
And when it comes out, it will be a huge topic.
It will be a huge topic on the Matt Thomas show on sports.
Dark 790.
All right.
So where's I going with this?
Oh, so Evan just was the latest one to come out and say these things.
But I listened to a little bit of it before the shows today.
And when it came across to me is he was conflicted, as were many of the players.
It was a operation that got started.
And there was a little bit of debate as to how much pressure that Carlos Beltran put on his teammates.
But once it started, it got out of the control.
It's just like anything that if you're fixing books in an office place, Ross, and you are in a position where you're cooking the books, somebody that's an employee is probably not going to stop because once you get in, you're in too deep on this.
And that's exactly what this is.
This is a bunch of guys that were all either knew about it or using it to try to you as an advantage.
And when there was a moment in time where the light bulb went off on their head and said, we shouldn't be doing this.
It was too late.
and it was apparently Carlos Beltran, according to some reports,
that there was people saying we shouldn't be doing this
and expressing their displeasure,
AJ Hinch,
destroying the monitor multiple times,
and they were just so,
I don't know if you want to say,
a headstrong about it,
or however you want to put it,
they were just so stubborn that they didn't want to stop doing it,
and that's just,
what are you going to do?
Are you going to physically remove everything
or fight people in your clubhouse about it?
I don't know.
Yeah,
you're sitting here on this massive playoff run
towards winning a world championship.
you're not going to let that be ruined, right?
Right.
You're not going to stop this to create any sort of disharmony,
and when you're about to start one of the most important series of your life,
meaning anything in that playoff stretch.
So, and again, Evan was always a really good guy to talk to,
easy, easy to root for.
You guys know what he was all about.
I mean, remember those triples he had, 11 of them?
What was in 2016?
And was he had like 11 in the rest of his career combined,
or maybe not even that many?
I mean, he was the guy, and you guys know who he is.
I mean, he reminded you of not a baseball player.
He reminded you of a truck driver.
So regular Joe.
Or a guy that was cutting lumber, you know what I mean?
Or out chopping trees.
Oh, wait.
Not only did he not even have 11 triples combined the rest of his career.
He had one.
One year he had 11 triples.
The other five years of his career, he had one triple.
So you're telling me he had 12 triples in his major league career.
Yes.
11 of them in one season.
What?
that's crazy.
That's impressive.
So yeah.
So today, the big story on all the sports centers and all the various shows,
as Evan Gaddis's quotes basically saying that we were terrible.
And this is going to appeal to the other markets that care about baseball.
But for us, it's just one more person saying something.
And again, the only thing I've said, and he's even said on multiple occasions,
you know, he doesn't blame Mike Fires for doing this.
And look, the sport is cleaner because of what he said.
But the only problem I have is that if Mike Fires was still an Astro, to this day in 2020, he would not have said anything.
And that's where I find the hypocrisy.
Yeah, I get it.
And I think everybody else in his shoes might have done the same thing.
I'm not a part of that team anymore.
I've got nothing to protect them for him.
There's something going on in the sport I don't like.
I'm going to say something.
If I was on the outside looking in like Mike Fires was when he's been bounced from Detroit to now to Oakland.
By the way, we'd be discussing Mike Fires going against the Astros this week.
You know what?
They would have just finished the series.
Yeah, by the way, our bets off of Will Mike Fires pitch in Houston.
You're not claiming an asterick win on that.
Okay.
Oh, whatever.
If you insist, I would have liked to have taken that win.
I was going to pitch.
No, you were getting odds.
You're going to owe me a steak dinner.
Well, you know what?
And Wetzler was going to have.
going to be the judge. I still believe that the, I'm still, I'm going to stay with my side.
Okay. I'll stay with my side. He would have pitched.
Okay, do this for me real quick before we get to our Friday meaty topic. No, Friday flashback.
Are you serious? Friday, big phrasing. I thought of our, I, it rhymes. Okay, it's a Friday flashback
topic. Nope. Lincoln Douglas. Debate. Oh, the Friday great debate. Look at you. Okay. Before we get to
the Friday great debate. What would have been the atmosphere like? Take people in your mind to
your voice. What would have been the atmosphere with a Mike Fires performance inside Minutemate
Park? He would have got booed lustily when he came out and then it would have went trickled down.
And maybe he would even got shelled or anytime he gave up a run, there would be loud cheers.
I don't think anything would have been thrown at him. I don't think it would have been,
it would have been heightened as far as the tension and the eyeballs on the.
the game and stuff like that, but
I don't think it would have been to the
extent to where it would just, they would just
completely avoid it at all costs. Well, first of all, the
major league baseball and Minutemate Park
would have had put in extra security.
Yes. The fences
that surround the, there's a net around the
whole thing anyways. It would have been way more difficult to
throw something. You got to really launch that
bad boy high if you let throw a battery at him or something.
Unless you got a rocket arm in section 300.
Yeah, exactly.
Unless Henry Rowan Gardner's in the stands.
So I'm staying with it.
Okay.
You wanted to back off?
Can't do it.
But you know.
Okay.
No, I'm not going to do it.
You tried to change your mind.
No, because clearly the odds are not in my favor.
It would just...
No, you were so strong about it.
But I thought I'm not backing off.
That's great.
I'm not backing off.
Good.
Steak dinner.
If he pitches.
Now, what's our new time frame?
I don't know what's going to happen.
You know, should we just call the whole thing off?
I believe.
I say tomato. I say tomato. Let's call the whole thing off. We'll just put it right down.
We're the final two in a poker tournament. Let's just split the money.
Right. I never do that, by the way, unless I'm at a huge chip disadvantage.
I usually do that when I'm sleep, when I'm really tired. You know what? Let's just go. I want you get out of my house anyway. We can't play poker anymore.
Yeah, you can. Virtual?
Some of my friends, I mean, my brother's friends, they're doing $20 a head. You just send him Venmo, and then he has a spreadsheet, and then you play for free on.
You interested in that?
I'm not good enough player.
It's 20 bucks.
Do something.
Hey, have a good time.
But I could feed my family with $20.
$20?
Okay, maybe $40.
You can feed them with $5 if you try hard, Matt.
Yeah, that's true.
All right, the Great Friday debate.
The great debate.
The great debate.
The Friday great debate.
You chose the topic, and we'll discuss it next.
The options.
Where did they choose the topic, Matt?
They already did on Twitter.
At SportsMT.
Now the 130 great debate is still available for you to vote on.
Oh, where's that one?
Also on SportsMT.
on Twitter.
So go, if you want us to decide what we're going to talk about at 1.30,
you can do that right now by going to add sports empty.
Our time is 1228.
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Wait a minute.
No watermelon.
Ah, Granny Smith, Apple.
Yep.
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This is perhaps the most underrated song.
I don't know how you can underrate Use Me Up.
It's a great song.
He's very unique in the way that nobody ever thinks of him one as the greatest soul singers of all time or anything.
No, because there's not enough hits.
His five can go with anybody's five, but after that,
it's kind of, it goes down.
Yeah.
What were his peak years?
Late 60s.
To early 70s?
Ain't No Sunshine was 71.
Okay.
Let me look here.
Muslin on me.
72.
Okay.
Should we play some of his B-sides?
No, it's okay.
I'm down.
Ain't no Sunshine's my favorite song.
I'll be going through some of the B-sides today.
I was listening to some of deeper cuts on the way to work.
I'm not a deep cuts guy.
Why not?
No, no.
It is what it is.
There's some real treasure there, Matt.
Not every song that was a hit.
I mean, songs that were hits aren't the only good songs.
That's true.
But I'm just not one of those people.
I usually like to go.
Like, if I could buy the greatest hits albums of everybody, I would do that.
I'm by the deepest cuts albums.
You are a deep cutter.
All right.
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The Friday great debate.
Our 1230 topic today had three options.
Was Matt's shop ever elite?
We've talked about that for many, many years.
We did.
V.Y. Mario or Reggie.
Or Bud Adams needed a new stadium.
Basically, if you would have given them the stadium,
the orders would never have left,
and we'd still have the orders here in Houston as compared to the Texans.
Coming in the third place at 27% was Matt Schaubber Elite.
Second place, Bud Adams, at 29%.
The overwhelming winner at 44%, VY, Mario, or Reggie.
maybe a top five
Hall of Fame
Houston Sports Radio list
and we're not going to spend
a whole lot of time
but it's just kind of once in a while
to pop things up here
on the Friday great debate
that's number one
in Houston Sports Talk history
I mean I wasn't around
when in the 90s
early 90s when it started
I mean early 2000s
I'm not when sports radio
and Houston started
yeah yeah yeah
when there was
I wasn't around
when there was sports nuts
and MT in the Co's or whatever
that's right
But got to be the most dominant sports topic in the history of Houston sports talk.
Because not only because it kept getting life breathed back into it, it wasn't even after, like, so the game was on last night, right?
Right.
The day after that game and the way Vince Young played and the dramatic fashion it was with everybody watching, that just set it in a lot of people's minds.
And the fact that he's from Madison High School here in Houston and played at Texas, everybody was just so.
adamant that you had to keep Vince Young.
So that was the debate.
Then the draft happened.
They took Mario Williams.
They're going, what the hell's wrong?
What?
Mario Williams?
I wasn't here in 2006.
Okay.
But I'm going to guess that people were calling shows saying, who's Mario Williams?
Right.
The NC State defensive is never even...
I'm going to tell you something right now.
Mario Williams has entered the chat, surprised everybody.
He was certainly in conversation as being a top 10 pick.
But there was nobody over the course of the year.
that was watching the development, at least in Houston, about this Mario Williams, who was doing
incredible things in North Carolina State. And if you remember, Matt, at that time, this was before
the top round picks had slot money. So that's one of the reasons. Everybody was like, oh, my goodness,
they're penny pinching. So then that became a debate. Then Vince Young started playing games,
and then there was, I think the peak, the peak, peak of it was that walk-off win, where the
Titans came into town and Vince Young in overtime had the walkoff touchdown through the football
up into the stands. And then that was just another firestorm for the entire city of Houston when it
came to sports radio. To tell you the truth, I was doing, I was in Salt Lake City calling University
Utah games and doing a show. My producer, his name is Kevin. He was also from Houston,
ironically enough. I didn't know him up until we met and worked together in Salt Lake City.
and he was a die he still is to this day a diehard Houston sports fan
I told Kevin that day
if the Texans don't take Vince Young
I'm done with them
because I was worried about Reggie
because of the fact that
you're going to be able to find
dynamic
running backs every single year
this Vince Young this this Vince Young guy
first of all had a cannon of an arm
second he was big and strong and he could run and he could be hit by people and he would bounce
off people I thought this is a unbelievable resilient dual threat franchise 10 year guy so I vividly remember
doing Salt Lake City radio going listen if you didn't watch that game and you didn't further
cement that this is the guy that you're going to build a franchise around
It's got to be VY.
Now, looking back 15 years later, Ross,
the smart thing would have been to do,
knowing what these guys were going to turn out to be,
trade the first pick, right?
Probably.
I think Julius Peppers ended up being one of the best guys
that was at the top of that.
But like you said about...
No, Julius Peppers was in the David Carr track.
I'm sorry, yeah, David Carr.
Who am I thinking of then?
Wasn't there...
Well, I'll look it up as you talk.
Go ahead.
It doesn't matter.
but Vince Young was also, I believe he led the nation
and passed their efficiency rating
and the way the college, the way that they do it.
Who was the guy that was up in my, I guess,
maybe I'm thinking of 2002 and you're right.
Anyways.
Let me give you, let me give you the first round picks here.
De Brickshaw?
No, yeah, trade down.
AJ Hawk, ugh.
Michael Huff, number seven overall for the Raiders.
So let's do this.
What is a number one?
Halotinata, I guess.
What is a number one pick worth?
today in the world. Would you say it's worth
if a team had two number one picks
let's say it would be worth a 10 and a 20?
Or is that you got to get more than that? Maybe even
more than that. But also during those days
like I said, without the salary cap on
the picks, it honestly
wasn't worth as much because it was such a huge
risk. But
also
the thing about Reggie Bush was also
that yes, he was a dynamic athlete.
And if you looked at some of those games, like some of his best
games were against like Fresno State
and stuff like that. And I
honestly, this was my honest opinion at the time,
I wasn't convinced that Reggie Bush
was going to be a great NFL running back
because if you remember there was a big thing about him getting over 200 pounds
and how much he weighed and was he going to be able to take a beating in the NFL
and was he going to be in between the tackles type of guy.
Those were questions that were legitimate there
that were on Reggie Bush when he was coming out of USC.
And I think they, for the most part, bore out.
I mean, he never rushed for 742 yards.
He rushed for 500 yards his first season.
He did get 2,000 yards season, so I guess there's that.
So let me, let's just put this in perspective.
Let's put this in perspective.
If we can now look at and say, what would the Texans have wanted if they were going to trade out of the number one pick?
Do you remember who the very first pick was in the second round that year that the Texans had?
Very solid linebacker.
Oh, Domeco Ryan.
So let's go into that category.
Let's say the Texans would have made a trade with some other team for the number one overall pick.
And let's say, I'm going to tell you who the highest picked linebacker was in that draft.
The highest picked linebacker was the Green Bay Packers taking A.J. Hawk at number five.
They had three guys that were really good linebackers at Ohio State.
Ernie Sims was taken number nine by Detroit.
Ernie Sims.
Chad Greenway was picked number 17 by the Minnesota Vikings.
I'm just presuming that linebacker was important to the team
because that's what they went with the second round in that season
in that particular draft.
Bobby Carpenter was picked 18 by the Dallas Cowboys.
Manning Lawson picked 22nd by the 49ers.
Oh, by Jonathan Joseph was the 24th overall selection in that draft by Cincinnati.
Cincinnati.
So I will say this.
as we kind of wrap up this
great debate
great debate
we'll have another one at 1.30.
At the time
I told my Salt Lake City audience
go get VY.
Rossi,
I was so blown away
by his incredible performance
and that he was pushing
this really vaunted
USC defense aside.
I thought, I cannot wait.
He toyed with him
and they had a ton of NFL talent.
And he ran like a gazelle.
He threw the ball beautifully.
And again, the throwing motion
was,
yeah,
Three quarters, three steps.
He wasn't looking at his progressions.
And now that I'm smarter about football, you have to watch and make sure the guys
aren't just going out there and playing pitching catch.
The intricacies of being an NFL quarterback is so much more than what Vince showed
in that game.
But he looks so effortless in being successful.
So I would have taken VY that day.
I would have accepted Reggie Bush.
When Mario Williams was selected, I told my Salt Lake audience, I'm done following the Texans.
And I haven't been the same, haven't been met them since.
I remember wanting Vince Young
but I thought they were going to take Reggie Bush
and then Mario Williams came out of left field
which by the way ended up being the right
right pick if you weren't going to trade it away
but I wonder
there are people who think that Vince Young would have slipped
if Bud Adams wasn't so insistent
if he didn't make the call you draft
Vince Young and we're going to stick it to
the Texans and the city of Houston
there are people to think he would have fell even further
than that winner I mean let's be honest
Vince three is a bust
yeah of course
Joan sent me an email.
She's on this conference call potentially today.
Ooh.
She gave me some more details, but she also tweeted.
She says the radio talk started day after national championship to almost a year later.
Non-stop all day.
I wore my VYUT jersey that Titans game to protest.
That O-T comeback was legendary.
Joan also sent me the email.
Apparently, you're not calling into this conference.
They're going to call you.
And if you're there, you can be put on hold.
Oh, my gosh.
Here's exactly.
this is what her email sent back to me.
They're calling it a town hall.
They're calling a roundtable conversation.
It's not a town hall.
Roundtable.
Listen to an exclusive call with Cal McNair, Bill O'Brien, and Jack Easterby.
Tomorrow at 3 o'clock, we'll be calling you and other season ticket members
with a chance to listen to a roundtable conversation regarding the 2020 season with
Cal McNair, Bill O'Brien, and Jack Easterby hosted by Mark Vanderbier.
You will receive one call a few hours beforehand as a reminder,
and then the actual call a few minutes before 3 o'clock.
Well, if you all are a season ticket holder,
I can't come to your house, can I?
No.
This is only if you have, what, a landline?
No, I wouldn't think that.
Yeah, I know.
But then could you, put it this way.
If you, let's say you were a ticket holder.
Okay.
Could you then put me on hold and then call me to,
and then conference you in?
Probably, yeah.
Yeah.
All right, I'm trying to think about whether or if you give up my home, my cell number or not.
Give up the number here.
We can put them on hold and roll on it there.
Ah, not bad idea at all.
All right, so that was our Friday grade debate for 1230.
We have another one coming up at 1.30.
The topics are on the Twitter account at SportsMT.
You can decide what Ross and I will decide.
Debate.
Debate.
You know, we can also FaceTime with people.
That's the easy thing.
You're listening on your landline.
Just FaceTime.
I like it.
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Your games will be back on.
Yeah?
And it looks like we'll be dusting off the Reggie Bush-Vince-Young debate in the meantime.
And what should they do with the dome, huh?
And is Matt's job an elite QB?
Just kidding.
Just kidding.
Just kidding.
No, really.
We're just kidding.
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When I wake up in the morning love and the sunlight hurts my eye and something without warning.
RIP Bill Withers.
Did we ever figure out what he died of?
I think he's being old maybe.
Uh, okay.
Heart failure, I believe.
Heart complications.
That seemed natural enough.
Oh, this is he died in March 30.
you know. Oh, they didn't release until April 3rd.
Today.
He is trending on Twitter, 81 years old.
Wow.
Man, we are losing some really great singers.
Well, him and Kenny Rogers in the same, what, two-week stretch?
Different genres, obviously.
Don't you shake your head?
I didn't say a word.
Kenny Rogers is a country goat.
Okay.
Don't these things happen in threes?
Hmm.
Yeah, the fountain is a wing guy died.
Oh, that's right.
Oh, does he count?
Yeah, I mean, one hit wonder.
You don't put one hit wonders with those two guys, do you?
I don't know.
Things don't happen in threes, Nick.
That's a stupid myth.
Don't get harsh about it.
I'm sorry.
A little aggressive there.
Speaking of aggressive,
the Houston, Texan's Twitter account.
Uh-oh.
How are the mentions doing this?
Ross, let's go to 6 o'clock yesterday.
And it says, top.
How does this continue to happen?
Top.
hashtag Texans giveaways.
I didn't even look at the videos.
I know.
I already know. Texans giveaways.
Of course they're going to say you gave away DeAndre Hopkins.
I haven't even looked yet.
I believe they titled it Takeaways.
Takeaways.
Oh, okay.
Takeaways.
Fine.
The Cardinals take away.
So do you have the mentions ready to go?
I have them, yeah.
Please go to top hashtag Texans.
Here are the replies to at Houston Texans.
Joe Trev says not so many.
One guy says,
Dear Texans, how do I block you from my timeline?
I don't follow you, nor do I have the least bit of interest
in your off-season moves
or the time of a coach you have out there.
It's very simple. Just block them.
One has a picture, and it says,
Not a fan until O'Brien is gone.
It's a good one.
It's Cal McNair looking at Bill O'Brien saying,
wait, Hopkins wasn't the one that made all those big plays, was he?
Do you think Cal misunderstood the train?
We're trading...
Wait, we're giving him away?
No, we're trading Kiki Kootie to Arizona for David Johnson.
Sign me up!
Maybe Bill O'Brien just put like a little post-it note over the name
and wrote in like D'Andre Carter or something like that?
Yeah, I think Bill O'Brien would be sneaky enough to pull one over Cal's head and say,
you know what, we're going to put this name in, and then go get that eraser mark,
and racer-mate pen and scratch it out and put D'Andre on there.
He'll never know anything.
Take away O'Brien's access badge to NRG.
Fire that idiot.
Our GM-H-Sash-HC head coach bleep every fan in Houston.
There's a poll question.
Who's the biggest idiot ever?
There are three options.
Go ahead.
Bill O'Brien.
Yes.
Bill O'Brien.
Yes.
And B-O-B.
Pretty evenly voted on, I'm assuming.
88.9% are voting for Bill O'Brien.
Okay.
Is there any positive ones?
Can you find a positive one?
I'm trying.
Is Texans Karen got one out there?
gotta be something like, hey, go team, love you.
Best takeaway is that Bill O'Brien
is a POS, hashtag Fire Bill O'Brien.
We got run out of another team stadium and another
division around playoff blowout loss. It was in caps.
By the way, the Chiefs.
That's the takeaway. The Chiefs Texans game was on this
morning in the NFL network if you didn't catch that.
Hopefully you didn't. Biggest takeaway is this
franchise is a joke. Disfunctional
power hungry GM coach.
I'd rather be a Cardinal fan now.
All right, let's do this real quick.
Let's turn the music off. Ross, I would like you to go
to the Cleveland Brown's Twitter account.
Okay.
And see if they're nearly as abusive
towards their team as the
Twitter account of the Houston, Texans, is towards
their team. They are at Browns.
Okay, so what do they have? I knocked the Browns
the other day, actually. Did you really? What did you do? That's not very
nice. Well, someone had tweeted out
a picture of some game
in the 70s where they were up 51 to
nothing over the Steelers, I believe.
Yeah. And
I just replied to it,
you all realize this is the Baltimore
Ravens, right, Cleveland?
Oh, you're opening up old wounds, what you're doing.
Okay, I see what you're doing.
Let's see.
There's a quote from head coach Kevin Stefanski.
Brand new coach, by the way.
Says staff is undeterred while staying safe and working hard from home.
Here's in the mentions.
Somebody saying uniforms question mark while we're waiting because the Browns are changing
their uniforms up, right?
They should be.
They're terrible.
Someone says seriously what in the hell they're waiting for, at least say when they'll be
revealed.
So there's two people upset about the uniforms.
And there's one that says,
Glad to see Coach is good and safe.
Wow, that's actually halfway positive.
It's all the way positive.
Well, if you're bitching about the uniforms,
you're not unhappy with the uniforms.
No, I mean, that last comment is all the way positive.
Okay.
Don't miss our brand new building the Browns this Sunday at 11 a.m.
Here are some of the mentions.
Go ahead.
One says, I need it.
One says, show us the new uniforms.
Looks like they're all upset about the uniforms.
How do you fix the Brown's uniforms?
They have the worst color scheme.
They're terrible.
They're two shows.
shades of brown.
First of all, it's the worst,
probably the worst team name in sports?
Well, I mean...
We're the Browns.
Oh, no, the Browns are coming into town.
Is that firing anybody up?
Hey, we're the...
It did in the late 80s.
We're the Cleveland Browns.
We're named after Paul Brown.
Well, how about the Houston Texans?
I mean, that's not necessarily...
Yeah.
Really clever.
That's pretty bad.
Probably the worst...
I think one, two, worst.
Although dolphins, you just want a pet.
and watch them be intelligent.
But it's very South Florida.
Yeah, I do.
No.
Their color scheme matches everything is about Florida.
Okay, fine.
Okay.
The browns is the worst.
First of all, they're the browns and they're orange.
What's going on here?
It's orange and brown.
Guess.
I mean, the two worst combo colors you could possibly put out there.
Okay, so the browns are the worst name.
The Texans are the second worst name.
What's the third worst name?
In the NFL?
In sports period.
Padres?
Fits.
Why?
I don't know.
It just seems like, I mean, now, their uniforms have sucked for the most part of their career.
They've changed, they change those uniforms every other year.
Padridge isn't bother me.
I'm trying to think what else would be.
What is an atrocious name?
We need to think about this for a second.
We'll go to a list, and Ross, you and I'll come up with a couple of them, the absolute worst.
Anything goes Friday.
That's what we're trying to figure that out.
Very clearly.
713, 2, 112, 5, 7.
I don't think the Browns is arguable is the worst name in sports.
Oh, frankly, the Utah Jazz should have changed their name.
When New Orleans moved to Utah, having lived in Salt Lake City, there's no jazz being played.
What about, what do you feel about thunder?
I'm okay with weather terms.
The heat I have no problem with.
I like tornadoes, hurricanes.
I like, yeah, it's fine.
Pelicans?
Ooh.
It's pretty bad.
Pretty bad.
Especially after you had the hornet.
Magic's kind of weak.
You understand.
because it's Disney.
Yeah, that's almost an awesome.
Magic.
Wizards.
Yeah, I miss the bullets.
Wizards is terrible.
Not only do they get rid of a good name,
but they get rid of it for the wrong reason.
That people were associated with guns in the Washington bullets.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
It doesn't jive.
There was a lot of gun violence in D.C.
And my guess is there still is there.
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We have another great debate.
Coming up in a half an hour, we'll tell you with those topics on how you can vote, plus your phone call.
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Everybody's basically going, yep, Browns and Texans are definitely one and two in the worst names.
I don't even think the third is even close.
because actually the Utah Jazz, if the Jazz played in New Orleans, it'd make perfect sense.
Great name.
But, yeah, it doesn't fit for the, and none of those doesn't fit, but the rest of them are just significantly better.
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Anything goes Friday here on Sports Talk, 790.
I've got a poll question up on the Twitter account at SportsMT.
We're looking for, oh, the last.
the final results are in, Ross. It's already been determined by the timing of the poll.
Expand college football playoff, eliminate PIs and NFL replay, or D.Hs in both leagues.
One of those three things we'll talk about coming up at the bottom of the hour.
The great debates.
Two o'clock.
Brian T. Smith is with us from The Chronicle.
And then at 2.30, we have the Fantasy 5.
Do you know who you're going to be picking with the second and third picks in the all-time diva contest?
Do I say again?
Do I know?
Do you know who you're picking and pissed?
Yeah.
I mean, I mean, I have a list.
Okay.
Because you know who number one is?
I think there's, I think there's, it's very top heavy.
There's, I will give you this hint and this is only hint.
I think there's one from the Great Pass.
That's a massive diva.
Okay.
And there's one currently playing in sports today.
Okay.
And we'll have that for you, the great divas of all time sports at 2.30 here on.
Somebody tweeted us at the,
the bullets changed to Wizards because of D.C.
sniper, that's not accurate.
The D.C. sniper's 2002.
They changed to the Wizards in 97.
Yeah.
I get you.
Okay.
Yeah, there was, no, there was definitely, the owner of the team,
a poll, and I think the gentleman's name was at the time,
he may still be the owner,
did not want to advocate any sort of gun violence at all.
That was during a time where they were,
people in Washington, D.C. were asking,
they were asking people to donate their guns back to the city,
and they would give them gifts and stuff in return.
and they wanted to get firearms out of the city of Washington, D.C.
Did anybody get an itchy trigger finger while waiting in line?
I don't think so.
We would have heard something like that.
I don't think it was.
Could you imagine waiting in a line 15 deep to drop your gun off?
Hey, you'll lancy.
Or somebody tries a chat and cut and you shoot them.
By the way, we went to the grocery store this morning at 645.
Yeah, 645.
Yeah, we were 25th in line probably.
There's still people lining up outside of the grocery store every day?
Yeah.
And today I went to go get toilet paper.
We were allowed one roll.
Not one roll, one pack.
Good.
I grabbed two.
Woman of Kroger said,
you're only allowed to have one.
Because I remember that when I went last week,
you could grab two,
but I only grabbed one of the time.
How much are you guys blown through toilet paper?
Well, there's five of us.
What are you all eating?
You have a lot of chili at the place or what?
Yeah.
A lot of five-alarm chili at the Thomas household?
I said, Cameron, you're running through your toilet paper.
I said, change your diet.
Well, he only eats what you guys provide, I imagine.
Yeah, that's what we're going with all soup.
Is that good or bad?
If I can keep us our weight in line.
All right.
Have you weighed yourself lately, by the way?
Yeah.
How are you doing today as compared to three weeks ago?
That lost like six pounds.
Really?
Yeah.
Because I went from X to X plus eight or nine, and then I've dropped three or four since then.
plus five. Well, this is the thing, Matt. Not going out, eating out a ton and living a sedentary
lifestyle. That's my, that's my wheelhouse. Nothing has really changed for me. That's funny.
Nick, have you waged yourself lately? Nope. Now, see, when you worked at the steak restaurant,
did you get to eat there at night to? I mean, they gave us a discount, but I never used it because
even with the discount, I couldn't afford it. Really? What about dinner breaks? You had to bring your
own food in? I eat before I got there. Oh, okay.
I'm just curious.
Because when I was working in high school at McDonald's,
I gained so much weight.
Because I told you, you would get, we got like $4.25, I think,
was an employee meal at the time.
And when you were getting the burger into two Big Macs for $2,
you get that and fries and a coat for $4.25,
that's $4,000 glorious calories in one meal.
Did you see that somebody
There was a writer or somebody who tried the McDonald's challenge
By himself
Yeah, and how to go
He was vomiting by the end of it
Yeah, there's no way
There's just no way
The double QPs are going to get you
It's just too much meat
For one person
Don't clip that by the way
There you go
There you go Nick
I felt like I just
Tosh your softball on that one
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Tom and down
town's got it.
The number one worst name is the Browns.
The number two is the Texans.
Maybe even three, because I think we got number two.
The Ducks of Anaheim, the Anaheim ducks.
Yeah, but that's the movie, Mighty Ducks was cool.
I loved that movie when I was a kid.
Okay, so what if you love?
I also loved, um, Bad News Bears.
Bad News Bears.
No one's calling themselves the Detroit Bad News Bears.
Well, they are the Chicago Bears.
Not named after that.
You know that.
Now, the ducks of Anaheim sucks.
They used to be called the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim.
And then they were just so embarrassed by that.
They just wanted to go off the movie.
Well, how long is that going to work?
Gordon Bombay and the kids.
It was a good movie.
I'm not going to put it on your you must.
Please.
You're missing out on a huge piece of American culture.
If you have not seen D-2, the Mighty Ducks.
No, that's fine.
It's always Sunday in Philadelphia this weekend.
By the way, that show was eight years long, right?
Or something crazy like that?
It's got like 14 seasons.
Wow.
Danny DeVito was part of it?
Danny DeVito joins in season two.
And is he a good actor in this?
Yeah.
It's been running for 14 seasons.
Is it still runs?
Yeah.
Wait a minute.
Wait time.
It's always sunny in Philadelphia has run for 14 seasons.
Why don't more people know about it?
It's because it kind of tucked away on FXX.
Okay.
That would make sense.
And so seasons one through like two or three, they're really,
really good.
Like, 45, 6, 7 are incredibly amazing.
And then after that, it's a little hit and miss just to let you know.
Okay.
But the first, like, seven seasons are just some of the best television you'll ever see.
All right.
Well, I'm going to start watching that tonight or sometime this weekend.
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The next segment of the show, a former NFL coach goes after one of Dallas's best receiver.
Or at least it will so be paid like his best receiver?
Yes, Brian?
No.
the one that just signed a ridiculously new
big contract. Amari Cooper
an NFL coach goes after Amari
Cooper big time. We'll let you hear that
coming up in just a second. Let's go to Brian
on 79810 after one. Hi Brian.
Hey, what's going on, Matt?
Hi.
You know, I called to spread optimism this morning, but
you know, I got, on the other hand,
I need to share this.
I just talk to
my brother in California
and he's
his son is in the national
They're just spreading the word now that they're going to activate reservists nationwide, national guard, everybody.
And then next week sometime, everything is going to shut down.
And life's going to change as we know it.
And this is coming from a reliable, reliable source, although I can't say for sure, for sure, for sure.
But things are going to change and it's going to be drastic because they're thinking they can't contain this.
we're going to have to stop it somehow from spreading.
And so, you know, thank God I'm still working, and thank God we're all still where we're at.
But I just thought I'd share that little bit of tidbit because I felt I had to
because it's serious and I know it is.
And, yeah, it's going to get a little worse before it gets better.
But on the other side, on the optimistic side, Matt, when it does get better.
You have to stop.
There's no optimism of what you just said.
Hey, no, no, I got an optimistic side.
Everything's going to get better.
Everything's going to get better.
We're all going to live, and guess what?
Sports is going to go on, and when it does, one team,
and I'm kind of doubting the Texans because of Billow bone hit,
but the assholes or the Rockets, somebody here's going to win the championship.
I'm going to put that up, guaranteed.
Okay, thanks, Brian.
Brian is in our West Coast News Center
telling us that everything's going to shut down.
Thank you.
When I screened that call,
Brian told me that he was here to spread a little optimism.
That's all he said.
I think he just kicked me in the groin.
Yeah.
Kicked all of us in the groin.
What do you mean by shut down everything?
Does he mean that no one's going to be able to leave their house?
From what I heard, he said soldiers in the streets,
keeping everyone in their house.
Okay.
Funny thing is, we don't have enough soldiers to actually do that.
No, I, I, I,
I don't know if I believe, Brian.
I choose not to at this point.
But he heard it from his cousin's best friend's uncle.
Okay, well, that's a good enough source for him.
No, I think we're doing it.
I mean, I don't you think we're doing a good job collectively as a society?
We were social distancing at the growth store this morning at 645.
Yeah, so did you have to stand behind everybody?
I mean, how crowded it was.
You said you were 25th in line.
Yeah, we separated by five or six feet.
How many people, I mean, was the place crowded by 730 or,
Or 715 or however long you're in there.
You distance when you're in line waiting to get inside the grocery store.
But once you get in, you're down the same aisles of people.
There's no social social distancing there.
Yeah, they're touching all, they're putting their grimy hands on all the produce and the cans and all that.
Yeah.
Do you see that Vermont stores have started closing aisles of non-essential items?
Really?
They like direct people to only walk through aisles and stores of, you know, bread.
What's not essential?
Exactly.
Who decides what's not essential?
Apparently, people are
The grocery store.
People are all angry that Walmart
stopped people from being able to buy
like home gardening equipment
and seeds and stuff like that.
What if they're growing their own food so they could eat it?
It's not essential.
Take it up with Vermont.
Glad I don't remember that.
It's one of the few states that I've never been to before.
And I'm glad I haven't.
Megablass is weighed in on Brian's call.
Brian is a douchebag liar.
That's not very nice.
I've been hearing that exact rumor for a month.
man, everybody's hearing all these rumors.
I watch a lot of news these days.
I haven't seen that at all.
Everybody wants to spill information.
Whether it's accurate or not,
is two different animals.
All I will say is this,
and I don't mean to be a doomsday guy.
I just,
as these days move along or I find it less and less likely
we're going to get sports the rest of the year.
And I don't want to be that guy.
Don't be that guy, Matt.
So I won't.
You just were, though.
I have been taking medication.
I hope so.
Yeah, I don't know.
Whatever it will be will be, Matt.
Okay, sirrah, sirrah.
Now, granted, if I'm wrong, which hopefully I am, we're talking about June.
We wouldn't be thinking positive things about NBA yet.
If they're going to start a season in June, the same thing would go with baseball, right?
Didn't we think when this first happened, we thought we might be back by April?
I thought, the only thing I ever thought was when they put us on this two week, you can't,
go out kind of thing that was going to be just two weeks.
I wouldn't think we'd be still doing
drive-thrus on April 30, which we're going to.
Yep. All right.
Evan Gaddis
spoke about his involvement
with the 2017 cheating
scandal. He dropped a lot of F-bomb
so we can't really air it. But
obviously he came to the defense of Mike
fires and said it was the right thing to do. We'll talk more
about that and get your phone calls in as well.
114. It's a Matt Thomas show
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Ain't no sunshine when she's gold.
It's not warm when she's a woman.
Ain't no sunshine when she's gone
And she's always gone too long
Anytime she goes away
This is
I don't like this song
It is a great song though
It's a great song, it's too sad
Yeah, we don't need sadness
I can come back with the DMX version
Live and things up a little bit
That's all right
The DMX version of Aet No, oh yeah, I forgot about that
No, that's not gonna bring us up either
What is a...
I'd rather have the UGK version of us.
Use Me Up, UGK.
Can you play Just the Two of Us when we come back next segment?
All right.
Real quick, we mentioned a couple of topics I want to get to
before we get to our Friday great debate at 130,
and we got Brian T. Smith at 2 o'clock in the Fantasy 5 at 2.30.
We mentioned that Rex Ryan was on ESPN.
I think it's the first time he's been on in quite a few weeks.
I don't know if he's been sick or just bowing out,
but he didn't mince words today, sports, are he talking about the
Cowboys spending $50 million to keep Amari Cooper.
Well, I agree with Dan on the fact that I wouldn't have paid this guy.
To me, this is the biggest disappearing act in the National Football League.
He doesn't show up on the road.
He doesn't show up against when the competition's good.
When he's against the top corners, that guy disappears.
And to me, he reminds me it.
It's only one time that I can remember in recent memory on elite receivers and disappearing acts
like Amari Cooper. That was the kid
that the Raiders had a few
years. Oh, that's right. That was Amari Cooper.
This is who he is.
And Dan, he doesn't love football. Hell with it.
He stops his routes. He does all this.
I wouldn't have paid this turd. No way
in hell. No way in hell would
I have paid this guy. To me, you pay
Dak Prescott. Forget all those numbers.
They're number one in the league because of
Dak Prescott, not because of this guy.
It's a deep draft at receiver.
They made a huge mistake right here.
So tell us how you really feel.
I mean, when you call somebody a turd, that's about as bad as it gets.
A national television.
I mean, the R-rated version would have been a POS is what it would have been.
I mean, he was just short of that.
That's a little strong.
They bring in Rex Ryan when they need some strong hot takes.
He's being groomed in the school of the Max Kellerman, Stephen A. Smith, Skip Baylitz, all that type of stuff.
But most football...
And he's getting headline all season was him and Baker Mayfield getting going after each other.
And he's going after other people.
It's not the first person.
But I'm wondering if there's something that's,
there's a backstory to this,
because you come out with firing brimstone
about Amari Cooper of all people?
It seems a little out of left field.
Now is Amari Cooper overpaid?
I do believe that, yes.
Yeah, it's just crazy.
All right.
Again, one of the headlines the day,
and look, we're in a sports world
where they're not a lot of juicy headlines,
but the Athletic had a podcast called 755 is real.
It's based on Atlanta Brave stuff.
Evan Gaddis was a guest.
on their show yesterday, and he said the following about the 2017 Astros season and what
it ultimately happened. If our punishment is being hated by everyone forever, then so be it.
And I don't know what should have been done, but something had to be blanking done.
And I do agree with that big time. We obviously cheated baseball and cheated fans. Fans felt
duped. I feel bad for the fans. When asked about Mike fires, he says he wasn't angry at him.
he says the system was in place
the pack mentality was out of control
he also goes on to say
I don't know how to feel yet
I don't think anybody does
we didn't look at our moral compass
and say yeah this is right
it was almost like paranoia warfare
or something but what we did
was wrong those are comments today
Evan Gaddis on the 755
podcast on the athletic website
when he says paranoia warfare
I guess I mean because it seems to be
is that him saying
which some Astros have come out and said,
we just figured other people were doing it to us,
so we did it to them.
Yeah.
That's how I interpret it.
Me too.
Let's go to Todd and Westbury at 123 on 790.
Hello, Todd.
Hi, guys.
How are you?
Good.
Hard to follow.
Hard to follow.
They're going to start closing everything
and life is going to get worse.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's hard to follow that act.
But I just want to say that if Evan Gattis feels so bad,
and Mike Fryer,
and Marwin Gonzalez and Tony Sip and everyone else,
each player received $480,000 as their winner's share,
and a ring valued it over $80,000.
If they feel so bad that this was ill-gotten games that they cheated to win,
then donate your winner's share to a favorite charity.
I bet they don't do that.
I bet they enjoy their brand-new boat.
Well, there is certainly hypocrisy in this.
Thank you, Todd, for the call.
There is.
The end game is widely being accepted as thank you for doing this.
Most baseball players around the sport and its fans and its front offices are saying,
thank you, Mike Fires, for saying what you said.
What you said got the ball rolling.
But it's not just that cut and dry because of the factors we just talked about.
They collected checks.
They collected World Series rings.
They collected being on the parade route.
They collected being World Series champion.
I mean, there's a whole lot of positive things
of getting attached to a team that wins at all.
And none of them said, this is so dirty, I can't be a part of this.
None of them did it.
So while, again, Mike Fires, generally speaking,
he's universally loved for what he said.
there's a segment of the population and said,
well, if you were so strong about it,
then you shouldn't have got the ring,
you shouldn't have collected your postseason bonus,
and you should not,
and you waited two years before you should have said something.
It's a never-ending debate.
It doesn't even matter.
What if he does give his,
what if he did give his,
gives the ring back to who?
I think it's more metaphorical than anything else.
Yeah, okay, well, who's he going to give it back to?
What's he going to do with it?
And who cares?
Because it's almost like that the comment that Rob Manfred,
everybody got upset about the piece of metal thing,
it doesn't matter.
The ring is a piece of,
of metal. The money doesn't matter either.
So I don't understand where everybody wants him to give all this back like it's actually
going to accomplish him. Are you really going to feel better walking around town that Mike
fires gave his ring back to, I don't need, or threw it into a, threw it into the river?
I think what you probably could have, should have done if you were really felt
disgust about it is not except to begin with. And that's where people that are on the
Astros fan side of this are saying this, you, you were so holier than thou in 2019 slash 20,
but when the rings and the checks came around,
you grabbed them just fine.
Well, should Evan Gaddis give his ring back?
He just said, he just said,
it was wrong and we shouldn't done it,
and I feel bad, and I should have spoke up.
Carl's Correa said we should have spoke up
and we should have said something.
He need to give his ring back?
There are people that believe the answer to that is yes.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
Why should Mike Fires give his stuff back?
Just because he had a guilty conscience,
everybody on that team that has come out and said something
has had a guilty conscience about it.
and has said it was wrong, has said we shouldn't have done it, and has shown remorse.
Do they all need to give their rings back?
Just because Mike Fires was the one that spoke up about it?
He said it didn't, all Mike Fires said, it didn't feel right, and we shouldn't have done it.
That's what Gattas said.
That's whatever your other Astros players said.
He was just more public about it.
And frankly, the reason why the Astros, most of them have not been public about it,
is because they are protected by what information they gave to Major League Baseball.
and that's why Ross, you and I said an hour ago, when Evan Gattis, or I should say, when Jose
Al-Tuvia writes that book someday or Carlos Correa or George Springer, we're going to get much more
graphic detail about what exactly went on. But right now, they feel like they can't say anything
because they want to still play baseball and they understand that if they say a lot of other
things beyond what they've already said originally, that they may not be able to play baseball,
that there may be so much pressure. Well, if George Springer came out and said,
Here's exactly what we did.
Here's the play-by-play.
You don't think Rob Manfred wouldn't be getting hundreds of phone calls from other players
and saying you better suspend him right now because he's giving up the information.
That was already happening before all this coronavirus stuff happened.
Everybody wanted him suspended.
But, I mean, it's not going to happen because we've already been through the details with the MLBPA.
I just want to dumb it down just for one quick second.
There are just going to be people that are going to say, if you felt so terrible about it,
Then why did you take your check?
Why did you take your playoff check?
What's your response to that?
Everybody else did.
And everybody else felt bad about it.
It's not that complicated.
But you don't have to follow what everybody does.
If you felt so disgusted by what the organization was doing,
I'm not going to take a bonus of $450,000 because, first of all, well, frankly, he didn't even do anything in the play.
He didn't do anything.
But secondly, that's-
Yeah, you know what?
He pitched so poorly.
That's what he did.
That was him showing it.
He pitched so badly that he wasn't even on the playoff rosters.
He did that on purpose.
That's a stand I can take is, I don't want this dirty money.
I guess.
But everybody else, like I said, everybody else felt guilty about it too.
And another question.
And they took their money too.
And they took their money too.
And they took their glory too.
Here's another question again, it answered.
If Mike Fires is still part of the Astros rotation in 2020, would any of this come out?
I don't know.
Probably not.
Not probably.
I would say, I could say for certain.
You don't know for certain.
then if that's the case then why didn't it
a current pitcher on the roster say something then
I don't know
if only one person said anything it was Mike Fires
Mike Fires is not going to crush his own
teammates on a current roster
you don't think he would have just delayed it
and maybe 10 years down the road
Mike Fires brings us up yeah
any of them could have but I'm telling you Mike Fires
if he's wearing Astros Gere in 2020
would not have said any of this stuff
would they have let him wear a question mark beard
with only half of it
shaving off? I don't know. That's a good question.
Juan on the North Side wants to get into
NBA playoffs.
Will this create
excuses? Hmm, that's not a bad
question. Plus, we've got a baseball
question part of our Friday
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This version is compared to the remake.
What a wide distance between the quality of this and that remake.
I like the remake.
The remake was in the movie Lean on Me with Morgan Freeman, right?
I did not see all that movie.
Bits and pieces.
It's one of my favorites as a kid.
This is my favorite part
This is kind of like this
This would be the theme of our society today
But probably is you can't lean on somebody
Literally
You could be lean on me with an asterisk
As long as you're at least six feet away
That's true
Well then you can't lean on you
No leaning at all
Staying close to me
The metaphorical leaning on me
The club new vogue version
Hit number one Matthew
Why don't I put that as one of the worst songs in the 80s?
In 1987.
Bill Withers RIP, 81 years old.
So how many songs?
What's the only one we've not played so far?
I forgot to do just the two of us.
Oh, that's a good one next.
Originally on me hit number one in 1972.
What about that?
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7-8.
We have our Friday great debate coming up.
But first, let's go to Juan on the north side on 7-901.
Juan, good afternoon.
Hello.
Hello.
I was wondering since the NBA hiatus, when they go back to the playoffs,
do you think a team like the Lakers or the Milwaukee Bucks,
if they end up losing in the playoffs, do you think they'll make an excuse like
they lost their hunger during the hiatus or they spend their break just caused them
to not play through the pretension?
Well, Juan, let's be honest.
Who sets that opinion is the fans, right?
Right? Yeah.
So I think we probably have to hold off on what we would decide on what the playoffs are all about until we see them actually compete.
All I could say is one, these guys have not been in live games or live practices in three, three and a half weeks.
It's going to be at least 30 to 45 days before.
So if you're expecting them to pick up where they left off, that would be far-fetched.
So I don't know what to expect, but no matter who wins this championship.
Whether it's the Rockets, the Lakers, the Clippers, the Celtics, the 76ers,
there's going to be an asterisk put on this season.
Whether they want it or not, there just is.
This is so unprecedented of what we're going through that this is going to be the year of 2020 in the NBA.
Remember that year where they had to stop the middle of the year and then started right away with the playoffs or they had to go play games in Vegas or go play games in Louisville with no crowds?
This season is not a wash because I still think there should be a champion determined.
but it's going to be nothing close to what we had before the virus broke out.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Agreed?
Yeah.
It'd be interesting.
I think there will be an ad, yeah, like you said, there's going to be an asterisk no matter what.
I think in the 2020 NBA champion will always be remembered as, especially depending on who it is.
Because anything can happen, they're talking about the first two rounds being three-game series.
right?
I mean, anybody can lose two games out of three.
I know the Milwaukee Bucks has only lost a handful of games,
but especially if you're having a very short regular season,
if any regular season at all,
then you're going into three-game series.
I mean, some wacky stuff is going to happen, I think,
because there's going to be some really high variants you're going to have.
I mean, I think of when they had the three-game series, wasn't it,
when the Rockets made the finals in, what, 80 or 81?
They knocked off the...
They called it many.
series, yeah. They knocked off the reigning champion
Lakers. Correct. In three games.
It was just, they had a losing record.
Stuff like that. Forty and forty two.
It's very impossible stuff like that is going to happen.
Well, okay, let's...
Maybe the rockets can take advantage. Let's be optimistic.
There's no asterisk if the rockets win it on.
Exactly, because we're purely biased on that one.
Let's say they can have ready to Vegas, Ross.
Yes.
They put 16, they put 30 teams in Vegas, and they drop it down to 16 for the
playoffs.
Okay.
Let's give them four games to get acclimated to playing basketball again.
So we have a nice even number of games that are being played, whether it's 68 or 66 or whatever the number may be.
Yeah, but don't you need to get everybody the same amount of games played for the standings purposes?
So some could play four, some could play five.
Okay.
You get the playoffs started three days after that.
You play best of three in the first round, best of five in the second, and then your conference finals and your championships are best of seven.
Can you get that done in 45 days?
That would be a maximum of, what, 6 plus 8 plus 14, so 28?
28 games and 48, 48 days? Yeah.
And really, the only teams that would do the 28 games in 45 days would be the conference champions of the East and West.
We're talking about two teams.
I don't know, maybe 45 days has been ambitious.
The point being is, I don't think if we're going to get some sort of clearance that they're going to want everybody staying there all summer long.
If there's been one thing that has been consistent, they want the NBA season concluded by Labor Day.
It's possible.
So let's say you could get everybody there July 1st.
That'd be two months.
You get two months to get in a season of game, a handful of games and playoffs.
When you're not.
Well, I just don't know if they want to keep everybody there as long as.
I mean, in theory, you probably could.
Well, you're only keeping, first of all, 14 teams are going home as soon as the playoffs start.
Then eight more a couple weeks later.
And then four more, you're only down of, you know, four teams and two teams pretty quickly.
Full playoffs is never going to happen.
It's going to be a question of how short are the first two series if they're three or five.
Now, when you and I first talked about it, I had said three in the first round, five in the second, then seven and seven.
They're talking about three, three, five, seven or something.
I think I saw recently.
Yeah, everything's on the table.
Everything is on the table.
I just think they do, even if it's down to 16 teams, they don't want to keep, you know,
they want to get this done as fast as possible, but that yet still have a legitimate champion.
I think if there's any three-game series, well, I guess we'll have to see.
Is it wrong for us to say we'll give an asterisk after?
If the Lakers losing the first round, then we're going to give an asterisk, but if they're
done, it's fine.
If you give an asterisk, it doesn't mean it's not legit.
San Antonio Spurs won that championship in 99.
In the 99 with the 50-game schedule.
Okay?
And not saying that no one should say they weren't the best.
It's got an asterisk in my mind.
But it has an asterisk because there was something about that season that was atypical of the rest of the seasons.
And that's what I'm saying this would be.
But this might be the, this might be the super-size asterix because of the fact that not only are you cutting the season to a grinding halt,
you are shortening up your playoffs and you're not doing any home buildings.
There's no home court advantage.
And you're all in this one general area.
case being Las Vegas.
I think it's going to open up
one Sapphire or one experiment
right now?
That's really up to those folks.
I think you have to
for the sanity of the players.
Because if you're not bringing
family there,
you can get the casinos are closed,
what are you going to do?
Well, the escorts services
have got to be working on.
A lot of self-reflection.
I think so, but I mean, that's safe.
Let me tell you some.
The police are not worrying about escorts
coming to people's homes in Las Vegas.
Yeah, didn't they say like in Philly
or whatever city?
they're not breaking down on some petty crimes.
They're not even worried about it.
If you're speeding or you're pushing drugs, that's one thing.
If you got a hooker coming to your house, they're like, just stay clean.
Keep your social distance unless you're doing what you're doing.
All right.
We have a great debate to get to next.
Plus, Carol Baskins has a song written about her.
We'll let you hear some of that, too.
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I see the crystal rain drops fall and the beauty of it all is when the sun comes shining.
Man, when I love one song, I just hear another one. I go, man, I love that one even more.
You're going to be downloading some Bill Withers today, Matthew?
I think I've already got a couple of his songs.
Listen to his sulky voice.
You would want to download Grover Washington if you want this one.
It's fine.
Bill Withers is on it.
He wrote, Bill Wethers wrote it as well.
I had this one, and I have Ain't No Sunshine.
The Two of Us.
How do you feel about the Will Smith remake?
I'm okay.
We did a Fantasy 5 on Best Remakes, right?
Yes.
I thought we should do the opposite.
Like, you love the original, and whatever they did with version 2 sucks.
You took that weird song that I'd never heard of and Nick voted against you for it.
Oh, Ma Maria.
Yeah.
Brooks and Dunn's version was way better.
Okay.
It sounded exactly the same, man.
No, it's not.
I know how you guys judge, and it's awful.
What are you talking about?
Who's you guys?
Both of you.
I literally voted for you in the last Fantasy 5 we have.
Yeah, because it's way better.
to go with people that make sense.
What?
All right.
Friday, great debate for the 130-half hour.
We had three topics.
Expand the college football playoff system.
Ooh, I like that one.
By way, we're going to regurgitate.
We're going to reuse some of them.
At least get some assemblance of votes.
Rehash.
Rehash.
Eliminate pass interference in NFL replay.
That's a hot button topic.
Okay.
And then the DH in both leagues.
The winner this week.
Eliminate a PI and NFL replay is 16%.
Expand college football playoff 32%.
D.H in both leagues wins with 52% of the vote.
So that's what we're going to talk about.
Yeah, I can sell both.
Go ahead. Sell me.
Sell me no DH.
No DH at all? Or D.H in one league and D.H and no D.H and the other?
I don't know.
I'll say no D.H.
I love that you have to manage your way through a game, double switches,
make the decision of whether or not a pitcher should hit
because you need your down to run in the eighth inning,
but this pitcher that you've got on the mound is doing a really good job.
It adds a facet to the game.
So I'll leave it at that.
I think most of those decisions that people think it adds.
I think a lot of them are no-brainers.
I don't think it's very rare that somebody,
if a pitcher is hot, you keep him in.
If he's not, you take him out.
It's usually there's not that much of a gray area on that.
But I think for fans that are watching the game,
there's a little bit of the, what is he going to do?
What's he going to pull, if he's going to pull him or keep him?
I don't think it comes up as much as you, as we think.
I think it comes up in the most important times, playoffs,
where everything is micromanaged and everything is discussed about what a manager does.
I think most of it's pretty ABC.
I think most of the decisions are, you can go with them and you know what you're going to do,
and it's very easy.
Or it's like, it's a lot of it's ABC and the fact of there's a man on, let's say the eight man gets on first.
I'm going to sack pun.
Boom, ABC.
There's no extra strategy in that.
And who wants to watch a bunch of bunting?
Who wants to watch some pitcher up there, go up there and hack?
But if you're down two runs in a three-one game, it's not a no-brainer.
Because if that pitcher is out there dealing, or do you...
You keep him in.
Not in the eighth inning.
Usually not.
If he's dealing.
But if he's dealing...
If he's not, then you take him out.
Here's the eighth.
I'm going to give you a declarative statement.
Okay.
And you're going to say that's ridiculous.
That's ridiculous.
I bet you in the last 10 years...
of the World Series.
And we'll never have the evidence for this,
but here's my declarative statement.
In the last 10 years,
if you went to a transcript of a World Series game
in a National League park,
that a manager has been asked
80% of the time
about whether or not it was a tough decision
to keep pitcher in game
or was it a tough decision
to pinch hit for said pitcher?
I bet it is a very, very common topic,
especially in playoff games,
Well, notably World Series games, but nationally playoffs too.
Okay, the Astros are in the last World Series.
I don't remember any time being like, wow, AJ Hinch has just got to be racking his brain right now.
Should he do this or should he do that?
I don't remember.
Why don't I find out?
I'll look it up tomorrow.
Yeah, because we can find transcripts of these games.
Was there a point in time in last year's World Series where either team had to,
and we can also talk about the National League Championship Series too because those are two teams that do have pictures that hit?
I'm not saying I'm four one way or the other.
I'm just telling you if you ask me to decide on that.
I'm saying it doesn't happen.
as much as we think. I think a lot of times it's
ABC. I don't remember. I mean, maybe it was
a time and I'm just slipping my mind, but I don't
remember ever being like,
I mean, the time AJ got crushed is
when he didn't play Garrett Cole
in the ninth inning. That was at home.
Nothing to do with the, yeah, hitting. All right, so
you have that argument. You also have the argument
of why does one league play by one set
of rules and one says the other? And I think
that's the number one thing, why
it is good to have DHS in both leagues.
Because you can't say
that a game played in Philadelphia
should be played different than it is playing in Anaheim.
It's ridiculous.
And it's unfair, I think, to the National League teams,
even when they come to the World Series
and they have to play American League games,
their rosters are usually not necessarily built to have a DH.
They have to use some fourth outfielder.
They have to use some.
Sometimes there can be teams where it helps and they have guys and stuff like that.
But a lot of times, the roster is just simply not built like that.
Yeah.
They're acclimated to field nine hitters.
They're acclimated to doing it during the regular season,
but nobody cares about a nondescript game in May.
It's how your roster is put together in the most important series of the year that what you just said comes in a plan.
I mean, Yordaun Alvarez, they don't have a Yordaun Alvarez waiting to be DH.
They just don't.
I just don't like in the NBA, if the baskets were 16 feet tall in the east and 50 in the West, it's two different games.
And I wouldn't be for that.
So that's the number one reason why.
They need to make it uniform.
You got to make it uniform.
Whether you let everybody hit, the pitchers hit, or you let the D.H do it.
but I think having two different ones is just kind of bonkers.
Brian T. Smith's going to join us at the top of the hour.
Carol Baskins has been a conversation piece on this show for a couple of weeks now.
And hopefully by now you have seen, or at least know of the story behind Tiger King and Carol Baskins.
Baskin.
Well, it says Baskins on his one.
No, it's it.
Okay, yeah, Carol Baskin.
Okay, that's right.
Like Robbins.
Or like Daniel.
Owen Daniel.
Baskin Robbins.
Okay.
Well, the name of the song is
That bitch Carol Baskins.
What?
But it's really Carol Baskin.
Oh, boy.
I think he puts it,
does Nick,
does she put,
he put an S on this song on her name?
I don't know.
I have to look back to see if Joe Exotic says Baskin or Baskin.
It's Baskin.
That's her name.
But whoever's singing this song,
I think puts an S on her name.
That's the reason why I said.
Well, hey, oh, you cool cats and kittens.
So,
do we know who the,
who the performer is on this?
The Twitter.
says Austin
Foreman.
That's all we know about him.
What's up, Austin Foreman?
Here's the name of the song,
whether it's an S or not,
but at least the title says
That bitch, Carol Baskins.
Just a few short of weeks ago,
everything was going great,
but little did we know
that a Chinese man
was making a meal at the back.
Then they shut down the borders
and they shut down the bars
and all the hawk-tops
where we were picking guitars
and the whole world became obsessed with giant cats.
Now everybody hates that bitch Carol Bassel.
Don knows the truth but none of us can be asking.
Ligamy has become okay.
A little bit of meth in Tigers makes a straight dude gay.
That Miss Carol Bass was the one that got away.
Just when the country lost away, jokes are accepting and he said the day
and captured all his attention with his funeral speech.
He said my husband was a hell of a man
Even when I was focusing as hard as I can
He'd come right up
And he just rubbed them balls on the way
And now everybody hates
That bitch Carol Basson
Don knows the truth
But none of us he's been asking
He has become okay
A little bit of meth in the tigers
Makes a straight dude gay
And that bitch Carol Bassman is the one
And got away
It goes on about 45 more seconds
but I think you get the gist of it.
The line about the funeral.
I forgot about the funeral speech.
That is the most awkward thing probably of that whole show.
And he sang during the funeral.
And he filmed every part of it.
Talking about it's Travis's testicles.
All right.
We don't know who's out there today, but let's give it a go here as we ask you to rush it or flush it on the song.
Yes.
That bitch Carol Baskets.
Oh, man.
It's time for an Insta poll.
Did you like it?
You'd rush it.
If you hated it, flush it.
713-212-5-790.
7-1-3-212-5-7-90.
Ross, initial thought on the song.
It was all right.
He needs an engineer.
The vocals were a little drowned out by the guitar.
Right.
He's performing on his porch.
Oh.
Yeah, it sounds like he's in a middle of a country club.
He was okay.
I would say rush it.
Creativity.
It wasn't a spoof of another song.
No, I'm not going to buy it off iTunes.
No.
But I'll, I may listen to it again.
Line one, rush it or flushing?
I loved it, but I also love Gordy's parents.
Okay.
I had hit the hold just to make sure he didn't say something wrong.
Why?
He just said he also loved Gordy's parodies.
But I also love it, I get nervous.
So that's one, rush it.
Line two, rushing or flushing?
Flush it.
Flush it?
All right.
Line three, Instapol, rush it or flush it?
This bitch, Carol Baskins.
That's a jammer, brother.
All right.
Jammer, brother.
Hello, cool, cats and kittens.
Two votes for rush.
One for flush.
Line 5, rush it or flush it.
Rush it, that bitch, let's go.
All right, three.
Remember the instapult doesn't lie.
7-1-3-21-2-5-7-90.
Line one, rush it or flush it.
Rush it.
That's it.
Close the pole off.
rushing it, baby.
Rush it.
Anyone that wants to get another listen
can check out the
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It's Sports Talk 790.com.
Under the category that B,
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There's the song. Check it out on the blog
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BTS, Brian T. Smith,
with us from The Chronicle.
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Matt Thomas show. We are with you until 3 o'clock. We have the Fantasy 5 coming up with the bottom of the hour.
The biggest sports divas past or present, living or dead in sports today. I think there is one
from yesterday and one from today that a definitive top two selections. Ross and I will debate that in 29 minutes.
BTS, you've got no diva factor to you. How are you, friend?
I'm as well as I could be, and I'm very thankful to be to be to be. To be.
healthy and alive, Matt. That's all we need right now. Amen. Great column in today's
Chronicle. I highly suggested talking about us here in the media trying to cope through these
times. Just take it as a sports fan
and as a columnist. How are you consuming sports on a daily basis?
What is your day like? Are you catching up on old games, watching old videos, or
kind of staying away from that stuff? Yeah, it's an interesting question.
I could do an entire, heck, right now I can do a three-part series in the Chronicle
on how sports fans are, you know, getting their sports.
Honestly, I, everyone's different, right?
There's no right answer for this.
I've never been a replay person, you know, not for instance, replay.
I don't watch old games.
Now, don't get me wrong.
I love classic Super Bowls.
I love, you know, I love sports history in a lot of ways more than I love
contemporary sports. So I've watched all the old replays, you know, the NFL films of all the
old typical balls, probably five times apiece. I could watch Ken Burns, you know, baseball
series a hundred times, et cetera, et cetera. I've never cared for, you know, live classic replays
of games, mostly because I watched them. And that's part of the issue right now is usually I don't
have time for that because there's so much that goes on our modern sports world. So it's not
really in my vocabulary to do that. So I've honestly ignored all of the replays. I saw the last night
the Rose Bowl got a lot of attention and that's super cool. Everyone remembered how incredible Vince Young
was not that long ago before Jeff Fisher ruined them. But I stayed away from it, but I know a lot
of people, they're watching replays of, you know, games from 1981 because that's all they've got.
Yeah. I know ESPN's doing Monday Night flashbacks, and there's nothing really super, super old.
I was telling us to Ross Saturday. There's a huge generation of people that don't know how awesome Monday Night Football was in 1982 with Howard CoSell and with Frank Gifford and with Dandy Down.
That would be more intriguing to me than seeing Brett Farr playing his first game in Green Bay, because that's still pretty fresh in most people's memories.
Yeah, and it's interesting to me, too.
that's another point to this is
the longer this goes on, they're going to have to start
going back in the 70s
and 80s and 60s and 50s. But
I guess because we live in, you know,
even now with no live sports,
everything's so contemporary.
It's always the latest. I mean, I've
seen way, and I like Steph Curry.
I'm not like a Seth Curry here.
I've seen way too much
like on Twitter. Steph Curry
praise. I tell you what,
I read about this couple days in the Chronicle. I'm looking forward
to this. The
The last dance, the Chicago Bulls' 1990s documentary, Michael Jordan, 10-part series, they moved it up because of coronavirus.
That I will watch every episode four live.
I think that's going to turn into a huge, huge deal as we get toward the end of April because there's nothing going on other than the NFL draft.
And the NFL draft is going to basically be a teleconference and Skype.
But I don't watch any of that stuff.
honestly, I've been watching the news, and when I consume sports, it's randomly off Twitter.
I just get honest with you, Matt, there's nothing happening right now.
The last thing I want to do is fake it.
Let me ask you this, because Ross and I have debated a little bit about this.
He sees the draft could be easily moved back 30 days with no problem.
My philosophy is, I don't know if we're going to get back to real life in 30 days.
So if we need something in the NFL is going to take advantage to this opportunity to have a live event,
let's just go ahead and have this draft.
the general managers are on the NFL have not been happy about it.
What is your stance?
Should the NFL be having this draft three weeks from this weekend?
Yeah, that's a really interesting debate, and I see both sides of it.
I've written about this a lot in The Chronicle.
The NFL is obviously using this to their advantage, and they've walked the fine line, right?
I mean, free agency was scaled back, but they still got the big boom with Tom Brady,
the Texanselt with the Hopkins trade.
But you didn't have player visits.
You didn't have team physical.
The NFL draft by far, though, was the biggest test for that.
And honestly, I don't think any of us know, including the NFL, how this is really going to work.
I mean, for the NFL draft to work, especially now, think about last year in Nashville.
You had, what, like 100,000 people in the rain.
It was an incredible scene just standing out there.
You can do that in Vegas.
You can put Goodell on a kind of a fake podium with.
nobody in the crowd, and then he's going to have, I guess, Joe Burrow, like, Skyped in,
and he'll talk to someone and they'll try to get him to cry talking about something from his family.
To me, that doesn't work at all.
You know, so that's more the NFL, to me, just being a cold corporate business saying,
hey, we want a product to keep dominating, we don't want to change the calendar.
I do agree with Ross.
I think they should have it.
but taking that away from Joe Burrow and Chase Young and all these guys.
I mean, that's one of the best moments of their sporting life.
If you can postpone it by 30 days, it doesn't hurt the league calendar at all.
They're not about the practice, Matt.
They're not about to have OTAs.
They might not get together until August.
Move it back 30 days.
The platform will still be there.
Maybe you can get everyone together, at least the players without fans.
That's what I would do.
All right.
A couple of things that we will get to because we feel like we've regurgated some of the topics,
but some things have caught up a little bit.
Evan Gaddis goes on Atlanta Braves podcast
and says basically what a lot of his other teammates
that don't wear Astro Gear is saying,
any takeaway from what he was able to tell the athletic a few days ago?
This is my takeaway.
It was not that long ago.
It was the World Series, I believe.
Was it the World Series or the AOCS?
Maybe you and Ross can help me live on the air.
When Gaddis and McCann were at Minutem made,
Park and they had a pregame press conference. I think that was the World Series.
Yes, I think it was. Yeah.
So that was only a few months ago, and Gattis was incredibly emotional, started crying,
talked about how he never thought he won a World Series, how, you know, what the team meant to him,
the band of brothers they were. Think about how much that has changed in just, you know,
four to five months to where during the coronavirus, Evan Gattis, quietly retires,
he's been out of the game for a year plus.
And he says what, you know, the rest of the baseball country thinks,
some Astros fans think, completely unvarnished, completely no-holds barred,
accepts all responsibility.
That, to me, is just startling to see what that scandal has done to the fan base,
to the perception of the Astros, and really to the players,
to where Gaddis also talked about how, you know,
some players didn't feel comfortable.
comfortable doing it and they were kind of mad that it was going on. You couldn't have more of a 180
than that. That's what stood out to me the most about that. Other than that, honestly, as revealing
as it was, he said the same things in a lot of ways that Springer and Redick and Correa and
El-Tube said the first day at spring training in West Palm Beach. Well, I know you've written
already one Astros book. The next book you're going to write is when George Springer and Jose
Al-Tube come to you and say, what really happened when they're done with their playing careers?
because I feel like until that happens,
we're not going to get the needed information from those guys
ever publicly until they're away from the game,
because that's what people have done.
I mean, Dallas Kiko went to a different team and said something.
Mike Fires left the Astros.
Evan Gaddis retired.
It's feel like the true serum comes out
when you're not donning an Astros cap or uniform.
That's 100%.
And I will say this until I'm, you know,
the one person who still we have not heard from,
and I just think it'd be so fascinating.
The problem is it's not going to happen
because at some point you would think he wants to get back in baseball.
It's not a player, Matt.
It's not a manager.
It's not A.J. Hinch having Tom Verduci at his house or whatever.
It's Jeff Luno.
You know, Jeff has not ever addressed any of this,
whether, you know, not saying that he knew everything.
Just his thoughts on it.
He was the architect.
He built all of this.
He found the,
those, you know, most of those players, he put the team together. They did incredible things
on the field before they were sign stealing, which the entire team is now admitted to.
I think he would be the most fascinating. I think you're right. The guys directly involved
Altuvae, Correa, Springer, et cetera, the guys everyone still wants to hear from, they spoke
in general. They've never been specific. Correa just a little. That's not going to happen until
they're far, far away from this. All right. Last question for your, Brian T. Smith from the
Chronicle with us every Friday. Brian, did you know that Cal McNair, Jack Easterby, and Bill O'Brien
are going to speak to season ticket holders today? It's interesting. I actually heard about that,
and I don't want to get the cart before the horse. I think that's the thing. Things are a little
confusing now. I'm very interested to see what they say. If they say anything revealing, if it's all
just cookie cutter, PR, we're trying to put together a good team, we're going to win it, et cetera.
they, I mean, let's just be factual, Matt.
How many times have I written in The Chronicle?
How many times you've talked about on 790?
That Cal does not speak, will not speak.
We've given him every opportunity to.
He could call me tomorrow.
He could call me in five minutes.
Hey, let's up an interview, you know, over the phone, social distancing.
PR can listen in.
You can send me the questions beforehand.
I would sign off on that immediately.
So if he's actually going to talk with O'Brien and Easterby,
and you're going to have the power trio do that,
I hope that they actually, the fans deserve for them to say something
other than just general cookie cutter PR speak.
That could be very interesting if they live up to their end of the bargain.
Well, they will, I'll make some predictions, and you can follow this up.
They'll talk about how much they enjoyed having DeAndre here.
they will value having David Johnson here.
They will value grabbing an extra pick.
And they'll focus on that as compared to
why didn't they get great value in return?
Because they're not going to take any questions
from the season ticket holders.
It's basically you get to listen in.
I think this is the reason why Cal is involved with this
because, frankly, I don't think Cal likes to ad lib anything
and that there will be things that will be put in front of him
on a piece of paper that no one will see that he can read off of it
and maybe running through it a few times to sound genuine,
but it'll be nothing organic like, you know,
an off the top of the, you know,
I think everything that Mark will ask him,
he'll have prepared statements for.
Yeah, and look, much respect to Van Amir,
I wrote about it a couple days ago.
He's done a fantastic job for two decades.
Not saying anything about him,
but to you and I,
and the fan, most importantly, the fan base,
the 790 listeners,
the Chronicle readers,
people who randomly go to Texans fans,
who soak up every ounce of information.
They're the true fans of that team until Cal sits behind a podium,
stands behind a podium, sits behind a desk,
has a live microphone and speaks to the media,
and thus speaks to the fans, right?
All we are is a conduit in many ways.
Until that happens, unless he just opens up,
you know, pulls back the curtain and you get to talk to the Wizard of Oz.
Unless that happens today, it all will continue to feel.
like window dressing.
And it's a shame
because it's not like
we're New York.
We're not even silly.
You know, it would be fair.
It would be hard, but it'd be fair.
To this day, Matt, I don't understand
why they, if you're going to do this with the season ticket holders,
why not do this with the local media
who covers everything that you do?
Because, again, it's what I said.
You know, sometimes people just, like,
for instance, Tillman is Glib,
Jim is Ghib, they've been salesmen all their lives,
so they know when questions,
are being thrown at them, even if they're questions they don't like, they can spin
in their own direction.
Cal doesn't know how to do that.
And that's not an indictment.
That's just who he is.
So with somebody in the Texans organization, whether that's mom or it's Jamie Rootser,
president of business operations, or somebody had said, Cal, we're not going to put you in a
position for you to answer questions because we don't know how you're going to answer them.
And he might, it may wind up costing himself more damage than even saying nothing at all.
And that's a reason why, I think, in my honest opinion, why Cal doesn't speak, because
they just don't trust what he's going to say or he's going to say something wrong that it's going
to be sliced and diced by every member of the Houston media.
Yeah, and part of it, it's interesting.
Part of that, though, go back to the last couple years of McNair, Bob McNair, his father.
Now, Bob was dealing with serious illnesses, but he was still around.
Bob was his open and forthright, maybe to a fault, direct.
I mean, I'll never forget.
Brock Osweiler, we're at Lambeau Field.
he had it was a tough loss for the Texans because the Texans have tough losses and Bob spoke to us in a hallway
on a whim like hey you guys want to talk we'll talk did the fans liked what he said that day
no but he spoke and any and so you you you got a pulse you got to feel there was somebody behind the
curtain I think Cal could do it in a lot of ways if they allowed him to I think in some ways
at some ways, Matt, they haven't done this for three or four years now,
and now with the new regime, with Easterby,
and it's interesting that Easterbe has to be a part of this,
they can just continue to be this Houston version of the New England Patriots
and how they approach things.
Maybe that'll change.
It doesn't have to be that way, for whatever reason,
they've chosen this path and they keep going down it farther and farther.
Yeah, I don't think it's going to change, unfortunately.
That's the reason why media is, I'm assuming, is not invited on this call.
correct? To the best of my knowledge, we are not. I believe, you know, I'll try to find out
whatever I can and you would think it would come out, you know, some way. And it's just, it's a
shame. It's the freaking coronavirus. We're all at home. Everything's shut down. If you're going
to speak, you're going to speak to your season ticket holders and it's going to leak out to the
press and that's the fan base, but you're not going to talk to the fans, you know, who maybe don't
have the money to pay for season tickets. I don't understand that. I don't understand
at all, especially at this time when everyone's dying, you know, not dying, but everyone's
yearning for any type of information. Just go ahead and speak to it. Talk to it. Have a conference
call with us. Stay safe. We'll talk to you next week, friend. Thank you for the time as always.
Thanks, man. I appreciate it. Brian T. Smith, great column on how sports radio and media is being
affected by the coronavirus. You can get it in today's Houston Chronicle. 217 is a time. The Fantasy 5 and
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Sampled.
The correct term is sampled.
A federal judge in New York minutes ago has dismissed a class action lawsuit brought against Major League Baseball by a group of daily fantasy sports contestants.
These people are idiots.
Who claimed they have been harmed by the Astros and the Red Sox and their sign stealing scandals.
Yon.
U.S. District Judge Jed Rackoff,
Lambasted the Astros and Red Sox for, quote,
shamelessly breaking baseball's rules and, quote,
the hearts of all true baseball fans.
But he also said that there's nothing they can do about it
and that the lawsuit, which was filed on behalf of five different people,
Christopher Olson, Christopher Lopez, Warren Barbara, Christopher Clifford,
and Eric Liptack,
were not harmed by that.
Five people, three Chrises?
Yeah, it's kind of strange.
Olson, who participates in the Daily Fantasy Baseball contest on Draft Kings,
followed the initial complaint in January,
claiming that MLB, the Astros and the Red Sox,
engage in fraudulent practices that violated consumer rights
and created corrupt and dishonest fantasy contest.
So they got this dismissed and they have to pay legal fees, I imagine.
Did somebody take a pro bono?
Or a contingency basis.
For, yeah.
Hmm, maybe.
It'd be stupid.
I would think the only...
I guess they were looking for a settlement.
I would think the only way they would be able to win such an event
would be if Major League Baseball knew the Astros and Red Sox were doing this and said,
hey, we're going to alter some stats because of our cheating ways.
It would have to be, you would have to prove that they knew or something,
or you would have, they would have to be in partnership with...
That's what I'm like, if they'd know as in, like, the official sponsor.
Even if draft kings is, you know,
as an official sponsor.
It would have to be
MLB would have to be
making a cut from these games or something.
MLB is an investor,
frankly enough, in draft games.
There you go.
We'll see.
That seems like there is some recourse there,
but whatever.
No, the only way you win is if Major League Baseball
knew it and said,
okay, you two teams cheat,
and we won't care about the stats
that come out of those games.
That's the only way they would lose.
But since Major League Baseball
had to go find the Red Sox and go find the Astros doing it,
that's why they didn't win.
you know these lawsuits are are coming and going right now it feels like and all they're doing
frankly is taking up a lot of court time and legal fees well that's it's probably like
75% of lawsuits are the only one that still has legs that i have seen lately who was that
jabroney that pitched for the brewers i want to say it was the blue jays no blue jays that's right
it was the blue jay guy has got a little bit of legs left on
his case. Whatever.
If you don't know, we're talking about...
One bad outing ended his major league career.
Yeah, he says that because the Astros beat him like a drum
or beat him like a trash can,
that his career ended prematurely because of the
bashing he took and that he wants to sue the Astros.
You know how he wins, Ross,
is if he had had a 15-win season or 20 saves
the previous three years.
Well, then if he did, one outing wouldn't have ruined his career.
That's exactly right.
And also, by the way, if the Astros did this all season,
did they score 15 runs a game, to my knowledge?
They also lost games.
They lost a lot of games.
They did even the Danny Farquhar game.
They scored one run.
So obviously some pitchers were able to be effective of this because they weren't bad.
I was going to curse.
They weren't.
Don't go heaven gaddis on us.
They weren't bad pitchers.
We'll just leave it at that.
Yeah.
I think we know what you're talking about.
Yeah.
All right.
So one lawsuit down, many more to go.
But apparently that pitcher from the Milwaukee, Toronto Blue Jus, keep saying Milwaukee.
Subpar.
Toronto has still got a little bit of life left in his particular case.
Whatever.
All right.
Ross and I once every week, especially during these times, have come up with a fantasy five.
We've had a nice run as of length, including two straight wins by me.
Well, one of them I wasn't involved in.
Except the win I awarded you the win.
Deservently so.
We are going to now draft the,
greatest divas in sports history.
Okay.
Current athletes, past athletes, alive or dead.
And you will decide who has the best list.
Alive or dead.
Alive or dead.
713-212-5-7-90.
We need, well, we're counting you as our seventh judge, so we may need six judges.
What's the matter?
I'm just kidding.
Yeah, I know.
You always get scared, it gets to a seventh vote.
If you would like to be a judge.
I draft better than you, and Nick Smart.
so it usually turns out okay for me.
I'm trying to go for a three-game winning streak.
7-13-212-5-790.
7-1-2-1-2-5-7-90.
We're looking for judges on the greatest divas in sports history.
The Fantasy 5 with Ross and me.
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Oh, my God.
Jeez.
Got a lot of extra free time up here.
A lot of extra free time.
All right, fantasy five time.
Here's how it works.
Ross and I will each put together a list of the five all-time divas alive or dead,
current, non-current, past, present.
You get the drift.
And you will decide at 7-1-3.
212-790, who has the best list.
713-212-5-7-9-0.
Two-time winner.
Back-to-back. Looking for a triple.
Three-peat, if you will.
Back-to-back, Jacks. Good for you.
I have the option of going first or going second and third.
Yes, in a snake system.
Which, by the way, I think the morning show does a draft and they don't do snake.
Hashtag bit-stealers.
A snake is essential in these types of draft.
Fair. Right. Yeah. Otherwise, you would just have the advantage going first every single time.
All right. Here we go.
I think someone's won every single one of those, too. Just saying.
Who wins? The same person wins every time?
I think Sean Selsbury is undefeated and they've been doing it for what a year or a few months now.
Yikes.
We need to call him out publicly. That's a long drought. That's not good.
All right, here we go.
Well, does he draft first every time?
I believe so, yes.
And then he drafts sixth and then he drops 11th?
Well, no wonder he's winning.
We should call him out on that.
We are.
Sean, if you're listening to show right now,
time to use the snake system.
Give your teammates there on the morning show a chance.
I, Ross, will go with the first selection.
I think there's two definitive ones,
one current, one passed.
Okay.
So I'll go with the current one.
This player is in the NBA.
This player might be
eventually the greatest player ever to play in the NBA.
Oh, okay.
Right now, in my mind, he's the second greatest player.
But he does.
Brooke Lopez, what I was thinking.
It all started with the decision and turning Twitter off
and then turning it back on saying, I mean, you,
look, we follow the NBA here on the show.
You guys follow it too.
He's amazing.
He's still very much the top of his game.
but to his credit he's gotten in no trouble
never been suspended
never been hitting anybody or drugs anything
he's just the
perfect definition of a diva
I speak of LeBron James
okay
he was on my list he was high on my list
but I don't think he's number one
okay
I don't know who you're going to go with the past
I'm going to let you have him too
number one of all time
in the history of the sport
he literally
said, I love me some meat.
Doing crunches
in his driveway,
just pissing everybody off
everywhere he went and getting, being one of the greatest
wide receivers of all time.
The pinnacle
of divas,
wide receiver, and the biggest
diva of them all. One,
Terrell Owens. Okay, good
selection, high on the list. For sure.
Thank you.
And next,
I'm going to go with a man
who is, I want to say, the highest paid
Major League Baseball player of all time.
He's had a bunch of hot girlfriends.
He openly roots for the Yankees against the Astros.
He's kissed himself in a picture.
He's got a painting of himself in a Minotaur.
He denied cheating several times in like an hour-long interview with Mike Francesa.
Then he admitted it later.
He's a liar. He's a cheat. He's a diva.
And I don't like him. Alex Rodriguez.
Again, this is, we're all going to be on the same page.
I can't imagine any of us having one going, that's not a divo.
Very high on the list as well.
All right.
I get the next two picks.
When you call yourself the greatest and you float like a butterfly and sting like a bee,
and you are known for your microphone interviews as much as you are for what you've done in the ring.
But when you call yourself the greatest over and over and over again.
And he was.
And he was, but it does put you in a divan category.
I speak of the one, the only, the late Muhammad Ali.
See, to me, he was more of a showman than a diva.
You weren't defining divas in the 60s and 70s.
I'm telling you, I'm putting in what the definition of a divas today.
Don't try to downplay my conversation.
It's very valid.
I'm telling you it's not that great of a pick.
I'm telling you why I didn't, because he was a showman.
He wasn't a diva.
He was the, what was the wrestler, gorgeous George?
he saw him and he saw him acting crazy,
so he wanted to steal that act,
and that's what he did.
Muhammad Ali was a showman.
Not a divan.
He was a diva.
Okay, go ahead.
All right.
Next up,
this is a two-sport athlete.
Oh, that's a good pick.
He was on my list.
And he thought he was a singer.
He had put one video out there
and involved him and women and money.
He was probably the greatest cover corner
ever to play in the National Football League,
not the greatest tackler,
and a very, very average at best major league baseball player.
But you must give a credit to him.
And even to this day, as he broadcasts on the NFL network,
he's a diva.
I speak of prime time.
On my list.
Primetime Dion Sanders.
Now, see, prime time's a diva.
Good pick.
Next, for me,
I thought you might take this guy, Matt.
What was the name of that podcast that we were talking about that Evan Gattis was on earlier?
755.
Yeah.
Well, this man hit more than 755 home runs.
He was a complete A-hole to deal with.
He thought he was better than everyone else.
I speak of Barry Bonds.
Okay.
Since you crush my pick, I'm going to give you an argument.
I don't think Barry Bonds was a diva.
I think he was just a flat-out-out-a-hole.
He thought he was better than everybody else.
He's a diva.
I don't think he would be an A-hole to be a diva.
I think they're all to find things differently.
Okay.
Not necessarily.
I don't think Muhammad Ali was an Aho.
I don't think LeBron James is an Aho.
He's just a diva.
Yeah.
Okay.
Barry Bonds is a diva.
Barry Bonds wouldn't answer questions to the media.
He would stare everybody in the face.
He tried to act like he was better than everybody.
He went on the stand and tried to act like he didn't cheat.
Holier than now.
Bad person.
Barry Bonds.
Diva.
Next.
Now I'm going to give you the boxer that you should have gone with.
I know you're going with this.
He calls himself, you said the great.
greatest, which he was. He calls himself TBE the best ever. And he's avoided Mani Pachia on his prime.
He avoided a lot of best fighters when they were in their primes, waited him out, made a ton of money, talked a bunch of trash.
He was a showman as well. But I also think he truly believes he's the greatest ever and he was not.
I think a lot of it is him and his insecurities and he's a huge diva. And he's always putting on social media.
the latest thing that he's bought and the money that he's running through.
Floyd Mayweather Jr., way bigger diva than Muhammad Ali.
Okay.
Not a bad selection on my list.
Really, again, I've got 10 guys that I could easily go with here.
And they're all separated by just a little bit.
But I'm going to go to football for one.
But I'll start with golf first.
Oh, okay.
One of the most amazing players of all time.
He has slowed steadily in the last decade for a variety of reasons.
one being medical issues, one being his wife attacked him after he had numerous affairs with Perkins waitresses.
It's going to happen.
But a guy that would wear the same shirt, the same colored shirt on Sundays,
a guy that would be, needless to say, have not be open and honest to sign autographs with players and whatnot
or hang out with his buddies, probably drove in different circles and acted in different ways of different people.
A hell of a golfer, but a guy when he walked in the course, you had to stop and look at him because he was a diva.
I speak of Tiger Woods.
Okay.
I can't really speak so much of his divinness.
I guess I didn't watch golf.
I only turned it on when he was on when he was on.
Again, he didn't have an affair.
But I think when you think of...
I'm going to be the first high-profile athlete's had an affair.
Excellent, excellent athletes.
Waitresses.
Waitresses.
He did that.
Call girls.
High-in call girls.
Next.
is a guy that was a diva and has no business being a diva,
even though he still thinks his diva today.
One of the greatest college quarterbacks
ever to play in the state of Texas.
He would take pictures while he was in college
with lots of really hot girls
and thought he was the guy that was going to take the NFL by storm.
In fact, he almost convinced the Dallas Cowboys take him,
except Jerry Jones had the name written down
and his son said, no, you're not taking this diva.
he has not playing the NFL in what three or four seasons but yet still thinks he should be in the NFL
he was too good to play in the XFL but yet he's not working at all I speak of one Johnny Mansell
um okay I don't have a whole lot of comment on that all right
did you like to think that was decent it was okay I mean he's not in front of mind for me anyways
I'm gonna go with a guy who's still in the NFL and he's
who is one of the biggest divas,
and we talked about wide receivers being the most diva position.
For sure.
Entire of sport,
in the entirety of sports,
the man who has taken over the mantle from Terrell Owens.
He likes to punch kicking nets,
and then act like he married him,
and he likes to be in jeans with his shirt off,
and he likes to cause a lot of distractions
and beg his way out of New York.
I'm going with O'Dell Beckham, Jr.
See, I think he's just a troublemaker.
What?
Now you're just doing semantics arguments.
Yeah, as you were earlier.
Shoman and a diva are two different things.
A troublemaker and a diva, what does that even mean?
What do you mean is the troublemaker?
I think he's a guy that causes problems on a football.
He's a Hrap Scalian.
He caused problems with the Giants and he caused problems with the Browns.
He's a diva.
Okay, semantics.
All right, let me tell you who I didn't have my list that we didn't choose.
Okay.
And they probably some people were like, you should have chose this guy.
I had Chad Outrosynco.
Yeah, he was on my list.
I had Des Bryant.
I had Michael Urban.
Dez, okay.
Randy Moss, Jim McMahon for the old school.
And I had a Houston Astros player on the list.
Oh.
Who's the Astros player?
Justin Verlander is a diva.
That's true.
Okay.
So with that being said, Ross's list, Terrell Owens, Alex Rodriguez, Barry Bonds,
Floyd Mayweather Jr., Odell Beckham.
Strong list.
I have LeBron James, Muhammad Ali, Dion Sanders, Tigerwood,
and Johnny Mansell.
Now, I'm not going to get any Aggie votes.
My list is way better.
Really surprised knowing with Antonio Brown.
Antonio Brown is, I think he's just crazy.
Yeah, I think he's clinically ill.
Yeah, he's just a crazy person.
Ross and I can have to put him on.
He was, I was like, Antonio Brown,
no, I think he's just clinically insane.
All right, 713, 212, 5, 790.
You need to help us decide who has the better list.
Who are the biggest divas?
My list are Ross's.
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the diva list once again lebron mohamaamaamae dion Sanders tiger woods johnny mansell
for me rosses tarrell owens alex rodriguez barry bonds floyd mayweather junior and odell beckham
Line one. Brian, who wins a fantasy five, roster me.
Matt, you got them, man. You got a better understanding of the definition.
Thank you very much, Brian. Have a wonderful weekend.
That's incorrect, but that's okay.
All right. Let's continue. Line two, Ashley on 790.
Ashley, who wins a fantasy five?
Well, Johnny Mansell's a big diva, but Rock wins because of pretty boy Floyd.
Oh, thank you, Ashley.
Ashley, have a nice weekend.
appreciate you let's go to mike on 790 mic who wins a fantasy 5 Ross or me
well when you can you back up your talk i don't think you're diva with mom and i think i had
to go with ross thank you okay go to hell all right here we go it's the right choice
patrick on 790 who wins a fantasy five ross or me a little disappointed no hookers on
the street update today i'm definitely going to have to go with ross so ii thank you
the iie guy gets in that shouldn't almost count shouldn't
Why not?
I don't know.
This is easier to say it that way.
If you'd voted for you, it would have no problems.
Three votes for Ross, one for me, which means, Ross, you're a one single vote away from winning.
Greg on 790.
Who wins a Fantasy 5?
Ross or me?
Not even close.
It's Ross.
Thank you, Greg.
I don't care.
Matt's trying to hang up on him so fast.
Let the man talk, Matthew.
I'm okay with that.
We call himself the greatest.
That's Diva.
He's a showman.
No, it's not a showman.
It's showmanship.
No, it's being a diva.
He truly believed it.
He's also a conscientious objector to Vietnam War, which I would agree that is a conflict we shouldn't have been in.
So that's not very diva-esque to give up his own freedom.
You don't get a vote.
He would have voted for me, sounds like.
Yeah, I would have voted for you.
I don't care.
It doesn't matter.
There you go, five to two.
We had four Ross's friends calling in, knock this out because there's no way in the world that you guys wanted me to win three weeks in a row.
Tiger Woods wasn't a divie either.
He didn't want the attention.
See, there you go.
want the attention to be a new. Yeah, Matt's list was very
suspect. My list was fantastic.
Well, not according
to most of the judges. Well, that's because they're on
their payroll and that's fine.
I'll give you back the belt.
It's back where it belongs.
Yeah, whatever. All right.
This weekend, what are we doing this weekend?
You've always given me, I'm going to try to get
into, it's always Sunday in Philadelphia.
Yes. Tomorrow, by the way, supposed to be a huge
rain day. So tomorrow is a prime television
watching day. Well, tomorrow is the sports RV
show 10 to noon here on Sports Talk 7-9.
I've heard it. We'll have some Rockets talk. Headlines of Joe George. The misconnections coming back.
Okay. You can't connect during this time. You check misconnections.
Really? Okay. I'll listen. What time you're going to do it?
Probably usually last segment. It's probably about 1150.
Okay.
In the A.m. But you should listen to the whole show, Matthew.
Very busy. Put it on while you're working in your garage.
I already took care of the garage.
Oh, it is? I'll do your laundry room. Laundrooms this weekend. So I will put the sports RV show on while I'm working in the
Lundry room.
And then, by the way, we need
some of you guys to
let us know how this conference call goes.
I'm very intrigued about that.
When is this tonight?
No, it's in 10 minutes.
Oh, it's in 10 minutes.
Well, call me about it at the nightcap.
6 o'clock here on Sports Talk 790.
All right, we got somebody on line, too,
that says there's the biggest divo he didn't hear from either one of us.
Okay.
Let me hear this.
Jerry, who is missing out on none?
Yes, yes, the biggest diva in the history of American
And first is Joe, Willie, Broadway, Namath.
Look it up.
Oh, yeah.
That's a good one.
With a third coat on the sideline, Broadway, Joe, man.
Come on, man.
That's a good role.
The first NFL player to wear white shoes.
And wear panty hose.
Jerry, you're absolutely correct.
Jerry, you're 100% correct.
Yeah, I definitely, I thought about Joe Namath.
I didn't even put them on my list because I just had so many people.
That is a massive miss on my part.
Charles Barkley I put on my list as well.
Oh, we didn't get to.
Yes.
Jerry Jones, I put on my list too.
What do you think about Jerry?
Jera.
Yeah, but I would put them in that same.
He's kind of a deal.
No, Joe Namath is the one we, I,
that was a huge mess on my part.
And then I put one female on my list.
Can you guess who it is?
What sport?
It gives it away if I said sport.
Not one of, well, it's not WNBA.
I mean, professional female sport, though.
What's the biggest professionals female sport money-wise, probably?
Basketball.
Is it Serena?
Oh, he's correct.
You think Serena's?
You think Serena's not a diva?
The way she barks at the umpires and all that type?
And the stairs down the ball boys and stuff like that?
Was John McEnroe a diva or an A-Hole?
Ooh.
Both.
I think he's more a-hole than diva.
Both.
But no, Jerry got it.
Joe and Willie Namath was a diva.
That's a good one.
Here's a non-deva.
Howard, a Memorial, at 254.
Hi, Howard.
I was listening to your comments about detections.
Look, I'm going to say the same thing that I've said almost from day one with the Texas.
Ownership cares only about one thing, going to the bank with the checks.
The minute that the PSLs crash and the tickets and the seats are empty, say a third empty,
then somebody will force Cal to come out of wherever he is.
and make some changes of a competent general manager and a competent on-field coach.
I don't think they have either one right now, not based on this wide receiver deal.
But as long as the fans pay the PSLs and the tickets, there's no need for ownership to make any changes.
They tolerated mediocrity to a large degree in my mind for almost 13 years,
the previous GM, not
Gaines, and
O'Brien
has sold the present owner
a bill of goods.
I wouldn't have paid this third.
By the way,
we have to stop something.
We have to stop saying,
I wish we had Rick Smith here.
Rick Smith was not a good general manager either.
He was at least average.
He's better than what we have now.
He at least hit his first round picks
instead of trading them away.
But please, we've spent
years, Ross, talking about the futility that was rounds two through six under Bill, under
Rick Smith's leadership.
Yeah, the Canadian Football League farm system, as we called it.
Sam Montgomery, great ball player, high on our board.
Sam Montgomery, Hamilton Tiger Cat.
Devere Posey, I think, is a Canadian great now.
So please don't listen to anybody that says, I miss Rick Smith.
I put that on Twitter, but I did it jokingly because of the, just the awful futility
it is.
All right, Wexler and Clinton are going to try to Jones in on the conference call.
They are?
No, but it sounds like a great idea.
No, you're not going to do that?
I was like, man, I could have slowed you on that one.
That's Wexler and Clinton's coming up as well.
For Nick and for Ross, I'm Matt, have a very happy, safe, relaxing weekend.
Keep your social distance.
Listen to sports RV on Saturday.
Or the nightcap.
Or the night time.
We got Rockets replayed tonight against the Celtics.
Craig and I were in Boston for that.
Oh, that's right, yeah.
We got some other games coming up this weekend with some Astros, more rockets next week.
We'll get through this.
Be safe.
Talk to you all tomorrow.
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