The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - The Matt Thomas Show : Joel Corry, Jonathan Feigen

Episode Date: April 1, 2020

The Matt Thomas Show with @SportsMT, @SportsRV and @ProNickLow 4/1/20Salary Cap Expert, Joel Corry, Explains Texans' Weak Position (22:16)Matt is concerned about his Soap Operas (34:25)What Retro Sporting Events Do We Need? (45:44)Jonathan Feigen Discusses His Q&A With Daryl Morey (1:09:22)

So much larger than life. Yeah. Lunch timers is the Matt Thomas show. 1202 and H-Town. What's happening in lunchtimmers? Good afternoon to you and welcome to a Wednesday edition of the Matt Thomas show. I was not trying to give you a dramatic intro.

I just... It's hard to keep track of what day it is these days. And we're not the only ones doing it. Everybody's having a issue. We're finally on to April, Matt. March lasted about six years. And we're 29 days away from maybe being able to resume normal life. Maybe.

I wouldn't put my money on that. Or what's left of your life savings after this is the latest stock market trash. Yesterday, the governor says May 4th is when the school's going to return. And Carter is like, so another month I said, you know. We'll see. see. We will see. All I knows is that my children are maintaining excellence through online study. Says you? Well, they're telling me that. I have to believe them, right? You're not checking up on their homework, Matt? Missa Thomas is hanging on like that. Yeah, she's doing okay. What are you doing when you go home?

Honestly, binging TV. Binging TV, napping, ordering food out. And I did, again, the garage, I'm going to kind of hold on to it for a couple more days. I did clean it like a mud. We're going to work in the laundry room next. These are the things that the Thomas family has to endure during this time. Knocking out all the big obstacles. Yeah, that's right. On the radio program today, Joe Corey, CBS Sports NFL draft, NFL salary cap expert would be with us.

He's been on some of our shows over the last couple of years. He'll join us to the bottom of the hour. Just talk about how excited a certain left tackle for the Houston, Texans is going to be when he eventually gets his deal done. We'll talk to him about that. Darryl Morey had a Q&A with Jonathan Fagan, the Houston Chronicle yesterday. And Matt's going to roleplay that. He's going to read it as Darryl Morey. I don't think I can do a Darryorne impersonation. But I think some people can. Chris Gordy does a good one.

Does he really? Yes. I don't think we have time for dramatic reading. It's a long piece. But Jonathan Fagan is going to join us at 1.30 this afternoon for a little Q&A on the Rockets and really more big picture on the NBA. Wimbledon, today, the announcement, done, canceled, not postponed, just it ain't going to happen. Spent a lot of time yesterday watching a variety of those, you know, those afternoon talk shows about their thinking, how are, you know, if Wimbledon's canceled, if any of these big events, how our NFL training camps can open up on time, I don't have the answer to that.

But the NFL, you think the NFL's playing this right by just at least putting their best foot forward to say we are going to have some assemblance of a regular season. We are going to have some assemblance of a training camp. They are, I mean, they already came out and said that they want, they think that they're going to have full stadiums come, come regular season. I don't even know if that's possible either. Will we ever have full stadiums ever again?

Ever again, probably. I mean, I don't mean to be bombastic or like, oh my God, the, the end is near, but will, will this all at the end of the day mean that we treat our, like, or salad bars are gone, right? Bafes are largely going to be gone, right? Yeah, what's going on to the Golden Corral?

You can't take out Golden Corral all I can eat. Yeah. What's going on at your regular neighborhood Chinese buffet? Because, you know, I crush a buffet like the best of them. I've seen you, Matt, in action. When you go to Fudd Rockers, they had the big ass bar with the lettuce and the tomatoes and the onions and the pickle. That's all gone. Right.

They're going to put it on for you. I mean, yeah, you could pick what you want. Right. But how do I get a nice little... Nice little ice cream cone. Oh. Soft serve cone after my Chinese buffet. Or Jason's deli.

Forget that. That's done. This is what the virus is done. They're robbing us of our freedoms. You know, let me tell you something. You give me sports back, Ross, and you can have the rest of stuff. I'll let the people at Fuddruckers put my toppings on for me. I will have a regular size amount of food at Chinese as compared to being a gluten than I am.

Okay. If we're going to give up a buffet, I've got to give it up. Probably healthier for us anyway. It's probably not probably. Definitely healthier for us. Although most of us are gaining weight, right? Because we can't even.

Well, it's the quarantine 15, right? Yeah. So I was up to my highest level on Sunday. Mm-hmm. And then it worked out in terms of not eating as much and I'm down four pounds in a heavy sparring. I'm still probably up eight. Not eating as much does not count as working out, Matt.

In my world, it does. Stay with me on this. I'm just telling you I am four pounds lighter than I was on Sunday. I mean, not eating, I mean, eating out a ton and not working out and living basically a sedentary lifestyle is what I do anyways. So I really, I really haven't been gaining weight. That's actually, yeah. This is my normal life. Yeah, first thing I asked somebody here in the office, do I look like I have gain weight?

And she said no. You said immediately. Of course you, she's going to say no. You do have you have gained weight. I'm like, well, come out now. Ross don't say things like that. But yeah, I'm on the scale every day because we're just trying, we're just trying a different thing. We're first of all, we're trying to support local businesses.

I'm knocking out, go and getting me some big city wing burgers tonight, eight bucks tonight. So that's on the agenda. Doing the carryout pizza. By the way, carryout pizza is the way to go. Delivery, going to cost you. Now, it's convenient, obviously. But if you can get in your car, wait outside the pizza place.

They drop the pizza off. You go leave, I saved $25 yesterday by going to pick the pizza. I don't feel like that's accurate. I won't mention a place. it was a chain three large pizza three toppings

eight bucks okay you go pick it out oh as in that was the carryout price correct okay that makes sense I thought you were saying like

what do you tip in the pizza guy 20 bucks no no no no locatellis is my jam but unfortunately with I don't I live too far out of their delivery area but so yeah the eight buck pick up

and it was fine it wasn't as good as the good Italian food we get up locatellis But point being is it, it's cheaper to go get it. But at the same time, I'm also getting on the road where we're supposed to be staying at home for the most part. Well, I know for sure you didn't get a $5 hot and ready. No, that'll hit you in the bad spot. Well, there's nothing wrong with a little $5 hot and readies, Matt.

Don't be too proud. A little crazy bray, a little crazy sauce. Oh, crazy bread and crazy sauce I'll get into. All right. News of the day. We mentioned Wimbledon. Canceled. Dang.

No more breakfast at Wimbledon. I do watch the Sunday Saturday finals. Well, you did choose them as one of the best sports themes, and you lost on that. Can we redraft that? No. I was sure. Yeah. Because it was.

I destroyed you. Yeah, that was not one of my parable moments. I think I had Monday Night Football and NBA on NBC. How could I lose? Yeah. But could I've gone old school with old CBS themes of stuff? I think you did. Yeah, it didn't work.

That's one of those games. By the way, we will have, starting next week, the two different brackets. It has been, I asked about 10 or 15. 15 people. Mm-hmm. And only one of them was the voice of reason. You disagreed. And I do take a lot of your opinion in the account.

That's fine. But this is the one you absolutely were in the minority on. We, I have... It's in the minority, but it wasn't wrong. Okay, that's fine. I have put together a list of the 36, in my opinion, and I'm still trying to figure out the... Yeah, you got to cut so you got a cut for. No, you can do one to 36, two versus 35.

36 team brackets. It's fine. Why can't you do 30 seconds? It's not going to end up correctly. Why not? Is it? You can do a 36-team bracket, right? Yeah.

As long as it's an even number, you can make it happen. Is that right? Yeah. Thanks for the math on that. Would you go to school again? Nimitz High School. There you go. All right, so I have right now 36 songs of the television shows that have lyrics, and then I

have 36 songs that have no lyrics. And we're going to crown two champions, the best all-time TV theme song. You're going to end up with, so, okay, hold on. You're going to have 18 games, right, with nine winners? How are you going to match nine winners? You're going to have to give somebody a buy. Yeah, we'll give. See, yeah, okay, thank you.

I was right. Where'd you go to school? Made Creek. All right, let's move on. Well, let me think about it. So what number do I have to get to? Do you have to get to 48? Whatever.

That's why it's still a work in progress. But the point being is we're going to have two different brackets, one for the all-time best TV theme song and one for the best TV theme song without words. Okay. Then if you even want to buy, then you have eight matchups, and then you'll have four winners, and then how are you going to mix five? That's why it's not ready yet. It's still in production.

Ross was right. No, Ross is not right. You wanted to mix the theme song from... I'm talking about the bracket thing. Oh, that's fine. And it doesn't matter. We'll figure it out. Point being next week we'll start it.

Also, later this week, we're going to let you guys via Twitter, choose one segment each of the three hours of Friday show, and you get to choose the topic. I haven't thought of the clever name for it yet. Okay. But we'll give you guys three options, and then Ross and I will talk about that particular subject for an entire segment. How about the great debate? The Friday great debate.

Ooh, I like that. Okay. We just see? I'm taking advice from you. For once. The Friday great debate. That's probably a bad idea. Now, there'll be some of be retro stuff.

Yes. like Reggie or VY or Mario. Some of it will be should the NHL come to Houston. I got one. How about Kevin Durant is weak sauce for going to the Warriors? See? LeBron shouldn't have gone to Miami. Right. The decision was the worst thing ever on television.

It was a bad idea. But at least you raise some money for it. We'll see one of this is the debate we could have. At least you raise some money for the boys and girls. I heard that argument before. You know what he could have done? He could have just written the check regardless of that. Well, they took donations or something, right?

Yeah, but it wasn't all him. Well, but he could have written a three main dollar check and been done with it. Instead, he went on with ESPN and Jim Gray. It just made that thing look awful. And I was watching some, there was a Dwayne Wade 30 for 30 type thing that I didn't even know existed. And Dwayne Wade didn't even know who he was going to pick. He had like a watch party for it because LeBron stopped talking to him. He's such a dramatic diva.

Like LeBron purposely stopped talking to Dwayne Wade to make him weight in the balance. How about this for Fridays? So nothing would leak. Fantasy 5, the biggest divas in sports history. That's a good one. We can do it. Write that down next so we don't forget it because we usually forget our own topics. Friday, Fantasy 5, the biggest divas in sports history.

And you will have the option of picking because you're back-to-back winner, although one of them wasn't against me. Yeah, but I still won against you last time. And the one that winning you got that wasn't against me, I voted for you in the seventh vote. See, we're building a relationship here on the radio. Ten years later. Yeah, it's only taking a decade. 713-212-5-790 is how you reach a show. We're getting some good news from different sports teams about their coronavirus and guys are getting better, which is an encouraging sign.

I think it kind of matches, it kind of balances out what's happening in another site where I'm hearing 100,000 people could die from this. So I'm, are you like me? Are you thoroughly confused about how many people are infected? Who's going to die? Who's not what the projections are? It's hard for me because I try to stay out of parliament. politics 100% I mean honestly the word the word Donald Trump is muted on my Twitter I don't really want to know what's going on in the latest but I want to stay

informed about what's going on with the coronavirus but I want to stay out of politics but the problem is every time something comes out it has a political slang and you have to say who's saying this right it's very difficult that's right 12 14 unfortunately I'm in the dark about a lot of it and we're not going to discuss much of that today because we you guys come for us for other stuff like game show team song 713 212 5 790, 713212-1-2-5-790. This is Craig Ackerman. The rockets are certainly popping the polypropylene.

I know Matt Thomas, all too well. Hey, by the way, this is my new catchphrase. Nothing but nylon. We got a little bit of updates on scheduling for the NFL and the NBA, one from a reporter and one from an owner of an NBA team. This is the Matt Thomas Show, 1219 on Sports Talk 790. guys and ladies are always welcome to join us throughout the course of the show. 713212.5.790. 713212.5.790. Also coming up,

probably an hour from now. Don Lewis's granddaughter, Carol's ex-first husband. Go on. who unfortunately was found, has not been found in, what, 25 years? Mm-hmm. Was, not presumed. What do you call it when you wait? Disappeared? Missing.

Called, declared dead. Declared dead is what I was going with. Yeah. Don Lewis, who might be in, what country was it? Costa Rica. He also might be in a gator's mouth or a tiger's mouth. Well, yeah, or stomach. Or he could be.

He was years ago. He could be in a pit. We're down, way buried. Well, Don Lewis's granddaughter has a few thoughts about Carol, and we'll hear from her coming up later on the day. And she has some thoughts about Joe Exotic. And Don Lewis's granddaughter is attractive for those of you're playing at home. Not that that has anything to do with anything.

Yeah, not that at all. But have I done an IG search, of course I have. Just because that's what a good reporter does, the proper background. You vet, yes. Research, due diligence. All right. So the NFL is continuing this. we're going to have the draft and we're going to have training camp, you know,

maybe the OTAs and the mini-camps and all that kind of stuff are going to be a thing of the past, at least for this year. But come July, we're going to get our teams back out there having training camp and having an NFL season, presumably starting in September. Adam Schaefter, who is usually right by on the, you know, Mr. 100% down the middle. Doesn't give it a lot of opinions. He's more about facts, no theories. Today, was it, when was this record? Is this off of today or yesterday? I think it was last night that it was said. We recorded it today, but last night on...

You can kind of tell this coronavirus is getting to him a little bit. I spoke to Dr. Tom Mayer, the medical director of the NFLPA this week. He thinks training camp is a realistic goal, and we all hope that it happens, frankly. We all want that back. We all want to see the days where we have that distraction of football. But OTAs, that's not happening. The off-season program, that's not happening. the draft is happening only through the sheer force and determination and lack of foresight from

fell frankly. I mean, they are determined to put this on while there is carnage in the streets. Strong words. Yeah, Mr. Schepter, not mincing those words. Go ahead. You have been in the delay in a month. This isn't going to be resolved in a month. It is not.

Whatever we're going through right now is not going to be fixed in a month. That's true. and guess what teams are doing. They're having video conferences with players. Josh Jones, tackle for the Cougars. It's going to be a first round pick. He's had video conferences with multiple, multiple teams. Is it the same, obviously, not than having him across the room in your facility, meeting people, talking to a lot of people?

We're private workouts, I think, are a big thing, too. Sure. But I'm telling you, if you're three weeks away from the NFL draft, whatever that date is, and you don't have a really good clear picture of who you want, then you're probably not doing your job. Now, again, you could argue with me and say, you know, another month. It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, but I don't think there's going to be an inherent advantage

for delaying this another 30 days, especially because I don't think any of us are going to be able to go out and do regular, normal, or somewhat normal activities, probably to the middle of June or sometime this summer. So you have to understand the NFL needs programming. The sports networks need programming. They know that everyone in their mother is going to watch it. And Roger Goodelt in the day said, you know what,

30 extra days is not going to help you guys make better decisions. Adam Schaefter clearly not happy with this decision saying there's carnage in the streets. I hope there's not carnage in the streets. I know he got a terrible problem going on right now. But Ross, when you hear the phrase carnage and the streets. Yes. What that makes me think of is watching movies with people just in the middle of the street falling down. Like a zombie movie? Yeah. It seems to me that violence and anything of that sort has gone drastically down during this. Is that right? Because there's not people in the

streets. The only thing I've seen that it's gone on the uptick a little bit is a number of robberies in Harris County, unfortunately. Oh, is that right? Yeah, I saw a story on that yesterday. Like home home invasions or what? I didn't, I just, it was just a graphic on the screen. I would guess it would be businesses that are being broken into because they're empty and homes are all full. Yeah. I would think if you're a robber, which hopefully you're not, that if you're doing anything, you're trying to go after, you're going after business.

So now's the time to go out looting is what you're saying, Matt. I'm saying not that at all. No, I'm not endorsing that phrase. As a matter of fact, the previous statement would be stricken from the run out of the show. He does not endorse criminal activity of any kind. Yeah, under any kind. Any kind? criminal activity no okay salacious activity sure criminal no so why are there why is there a segment of the NFL media that just can't get past the fact this draft's going to happen in three weeks i mean i don't have the answer to it i don't know i mean and it makes sense you got to go along with it at some point and and it is an even playing field but i just feel like the only thing i was ever arguing is that if you're a general manager and your job is on the line based on these picks you would like everything a

forwarded to you, but it looks like it's just going to have to be, that's just not going to be possible, whether it's now or a few months from now. All right. On the NBA side of things, Mark Cuban says that, you know what? There's a part of the reason why the NFL is doing this, because all of us, we need sports. American needs sports. We need something to root for. We need something to be excited about.

You know, everybody in North Texas wants the reason to have the Mavs back on and to get excited and to cheer together. And, you know, even if there's not any fans, just being able to watch on television and get excited to yell at the TV and high five people again. We just need that. And so I'm all for it. You know, whatever we can make happen, I'm, I'm doing it. By the way, he was on a video Skype thing with ESPN.

That's the reason why the audio isn't crystal clear. You get some better internet. You're Mark Cuban. Yeah, didn't he create a TV, a sports network based off of phone feed? Yeah. Here is about when exactly the, and remember he was saying that he was hoping, what do say originally? Like sooner rather than later, maybe May at some point? He was very optimistic. Yeah, I don't know if this next quote's going to be nearly as optimistic. The NBA is always

pride of itself and being a leader, being socially responsible and being willing to take the lead where others may not be willing to take those steps. And so I think is, you know, incredibly important. This is such a unique time. We've never seen anything like this. And hopefully we won't. Our kids won't. Our kids will never see it again. And so we do have. have that civic responsibility when it's safe to get out there and play a game so that the country has something to rally behind. Everybody's scared. Nobody really has any answers. And just being a diversion, just being something people get excited about, I think it would be a great thing for the NBA and really help us move forward, help the country and in the world since we're so global

move forward. I mean, nobody can argue anything he said, we've got to be safe about this. And whether it's with fans or not, we've got to be safe about the hundreds of players are going to try to attempt to play a very physical game. I mean, this is the end. It seems like to me golf would be the easiest one to resume. Yeah. Because there is lots of social distancing. With the tiger and filthing, part two, is probably going to be happening.

Yeah, I mean, that would seem to me, because you don't, you could easily not bring anybody in. You are separated by hundreds of yards at times. You don't have to stand next to your, I mean, I guess your caddy needs to be near you, but that's about it. That's about it. Even on the putting green, you could separate yourself. and one guy goes to his putt, the other person's 15, 20 feet back.

You just can't have the post ground handshake. No. Maybe a salute. You don't want to jump in the water after. You don't throw the baseball in the air for somebody in the gallery to grab it because there'll be no gallery. Well, you could get a Clorox wipe on the golf ball and then throw it. Okay.

To whom? Oh, yeah, that's true. A cameraman. All right. So that's kind of an update on the two sports. We will go to the Texans in a moment. Joel Corey from CBS Sports is their salary cap expert, and he's going to tell us how the Texans are going to massage getting your favorite left tackle Laramie Tunsell to be probably the highest paid left tackle in the game. 1228 on Sports Talk 790. He's next.

The pandemic continues. The no damn sports pandemic. I'm not leaving my house. Luckily, the most infectious lineup in Houston sports continues now. Here's masked, rubber glove, but still Jesus. sandaled Matt Thomas. Sanitize those toes, would you? You don't know where they'd been. The previous liner goes without comment on this radio show.

1232 is the time. It is the Matt Thomas show, Sports RV and ProNick Low with us as well. 713-212-5-790 is how you reach a show. 7-1-3-212-5-790. Joel Corey is a salary cap expert from CBS Sports. You've heard him on 790 on occasion. First time with me here on this. program. Joel, it's Matt. Thank you for the time. I saw your tweet a couple of days ago,

and man, it was so solid and so true that Laramie Tunsell should get a blank check. Doesn't necessarily mean he deserves it. By the way, the Texans have kind of put things around him and the trade and the departure of DeAndre Hopkins. He really does have a blank check, doesn't he? Yeah. The first mistake was not getting a extension or at least agreeing to parameters when you traded for him. Whenever you don't get the deal done, it's going to cost you more money in the long run. Just look at what happens in Dallas.

They gave up one first round pick to get Amari Cooper in the middle of the 2018 season. If they had signed an extension for Mari Cooper at any time before Michael Thomas and Julio Jones signed their extensions, he's not making $20 million per year. So that's the first problem. Second thing is you gave up a King's Ramp. him to get Laramie Tonsul. That's the biggest trade compensation this century outside of the Calio Mac trade. But they got to deal with him to Caliomac when he was signed. So basically, as I said, hand him a blank check and let him fill it in. That is crazy. Let me ask you this. How much of

Laramie's dollars could ultimately affect DeAndre, or Deshawn's? Now, obviously Deshaun is kind of waiting to find out what happens with Pat Mahomes this season, but is there any correlation between what tensile signs for and what Watson might ultimately get? Maybe from a cash standpoint, not necessarily from a cap standpoint, because savvy teams can manipulate the salary cap however they want to in terms of how they structure contracts, where they restructure contracts. So it may be more of a cash situation than a cap issue. But either way, you're going to have what will usually be the highest pay.

offensive linemen in the NFL, and you're going to have what will probably be the second highest paid quarterback right behind Patrick Holmes. How did this, Joel, how did it come about to, it just seems like standard operating procedure in the NFL when players, it's just, it's your time to be the highest paid at your position, even if you're not the best at its position. I mean, Laramie Tunsell is good, but I don't think anybody's confusing him for the best left tackle in football. How did that just become a standard operating procedure in the NFL?

It doesn't happen at all positions. We didn't see DeForest Buckner-Fistrade Leapfrog Err Donald, and you didn't see Mari Cooper jump over Julio Jones. But one thing you have in Laramie's case is, traditionally, left tackles make significantly more than right tackles. And in 2019, you had two right tackles become the highest paid guys at the position, highest paid offensive line in football. That's something that will be corrected with this Laramie Tunsell deal.

So if you go back throughout the last CBA, it's been roughly about a 25 or 30 percent gap on average salary. And given the leverage that Laramie Tustle has, I'd be surprised if he's not one of the five highest paid non-quarterbacks when a deal's done. How good was it for him when the first offer, the Texans, again, we're going off of published reports. the initial offer was $18.5 million. That's a starting point, which will make him the most expensive offensive linemen in the NFL. I mean, that's got to be a win-win for him knowing that anything north of that is going to really put him in rarefied territory. Yeah, that's what I call a good faith first offer. When I was an agent, sometimes I was involved in negotiations with players, which you wouldn't believe.

Were you like, really? That's the first offer for a guy this caliber, which in turn would force. me to come back and give a ridiculous offer on the other side just to send them a message. So I don't think that's going to have to happen in this situation since the Texans came in with a good faith first offer, which is going to fall well short of where I think this deal will end up. What do you think? I mean, we were talking $20 million a year yesterday. Do you think it sounds like you think it could be north of that, right? Yes.

Right now, the five highest paid quarterbacks number four and five, they're tied. are DeForest Buckner and DeMarcus Lawrence at $21 million per year. And it wouldn't surprise me if I'm Laramie Tunsell. I'm saying, hey, for what you gave up for me, which is almost unprecedented compensation for a non-quarterback, then how about we just take the average of the top five non-quarterbacks, and then I'm making roughly $22 million a year. Do you expect it'll be maybe like a four-year deal

so that he can get paid again at 29? I mean, if you're representing Laramie Tunsell, how many years are you thinking you want? Three new years. I'm on a contract for four total years. And we saw in free agency this year that a lot of guys were opting for the shorter model because you're going to see the salary cap go up significantly. Once we have the 17th game, the percentage of revenue for the players will hit 48.5. It's 47 this year.

And new TV deals will come into the equation. And an unknown factor is how the gambit. in gaming revenue is going to impact everything. So you would want to do a shorter deal to come up again in your prime and then get another chance to get a massive payday. Former agent now CBS Sports Saturday Cap analyst to Joel Corey with us here on the Matt Thomas show. Obviously, DeAndre, all the reports are consistent that he was looking to add salary

to his three remaining years here in Houston. And the Texan said thanks, but no thanks. how hamstrung would the team have been if they would have bumped his salary to say were close to where Julio Jones would have been? Would that really, according to what the Texans logic in play, would they really been screwing themselves with potentially Tunsel and Watson if they would have given DeAndre those three bonuses each of the next three seasons? Not necessarily.

It's just that you typically don't adjust contracts when they're three years remaining. And this isn't quite the Andre Johnson situation. Where Andre Johnson sold himself short when he did his deal years ago and had to keep adjusting it because he kept outperforming it, I don't consider DeAndre Hawkins to me dramatically underpaid. I would have wanted to look more at what happened with Antonio Brown. He had three years remaining on his deal, and then they added like $11 million into it when he was traded from Pittsburgh to Oakland, now Las Vegas, obviously didn't play under it and voided guarantees, but that would have been the model.

I'd have been looking forward to bump him $10 to $15 million over the three years, and whether you wanted to prorate that money or just add it into the actual base salaries, and some teams are now starting to add voidable years to contracts so they can stretch out the proration because then you could prorate any bonus money over five years as opposed to the three years. So there are a number of ways you could have done it,

where it would have been able to be manageable from a salary cap standpoint. To me, the bigger issue is you have to have a high-priced running back who hasn't played well since 2016 is what you got in return. Yeah, thanks for bringing that up. It makes us feel really good. Joel Corey with us here from CBS Sports. Joel, the deal is not done with Laramie, and we had Aaron Wilson out from The Chronicle yesterday,

but I respect your opinion as well. What kind of mood, and I don't know if you know if you know Laramie or not, but what kind of mood is a general player that has to go, into the final year before a potential franchise tag. How is that going to play in that locker room? And how is that going to play with Laramie Tunsell, who knew that coming to Houston was going to be a better spot than where he was in Miami? But it will be ultimately maybe even two seasons before he gets that new contract he's

been asking for from the day he really left the dolphins to begin with. Well, just as big of concern would be how it's going to play in the locker room because you didn't give up all those picks. And I basically caught essentially two first and a second. and I know there was other stuff involved to have him not sign a long-term deal. So one, you've already traded the best offensive player you have on the team, in my opinion, to Arizona, who also went to the same school as your quarterback. So they probably had a pretty good relationship just because of that factor alone.

So if you're not going to get the guy who protects him done, you're going to alienate your quarterback even more than you may have already done so. and then you're sending a signal of locker room that we're not going to pay our best players or we're going to ship them out if he don't get Laramie done. And then if he goes out and has a better year than he did last year and he made the Pro Bowl, whatever you're going to have to pay him this year

is going to be obsolete because it's going to be like the Dak Prescott situation where he's going to pry a premium for making him play out his contract. So you're best off just trying to get this thing done sooner rather than later, acknowledging the fact that he holds all the cards, has all the leverage and just go ahead and bite the bullet and get him done for whatever he wants is how I look at it. Last question. Will Pat Mahomes get his deal done this off season, do you believe?

Yeah, I suspect that he won. He's the first $40 million per year quarterback, and he's not going to give up any more than four new years. There's no sense in Kansas City waiting. I know Clark Hunt said that during Super Bowl week, and I'm like, really? You wouldn't want to get a deal done this year because the long as you wait, the more it's going to cost you the long. run and it's always been that way with good to great players. Joel, we'll leave it at that. CBS Sports, Saturday Cap expert. Thank you very much for the time.

Hope we can bother you again when the time is needed. Thank you for the opportunity this afternoon. Sounds good. Thanks for having me. Joel Corey from CBS Sports on Saturday Cap mania. Again, I think for most of the audience, it's like, I don't care what these guys, make, just sign them and get them done. Because here's the thing, Ross, if he does not sign his deal,

if he does not sign his deal and they wind up franchising, this team is going to be like, you did all that and gave up all these picks to have an offensive lineman disgruntled and not happy about being here long term? Yeah, that makes me think it's going to get done. I mean, you start off of the offer, most highest paid, they'll meet somewhere in the middle, it'll get done, it looks too bad if they don't.

I think the Texans are definitely aware of where they stand right now with the fan base. Do you think they do that? Yes. I think you're right. We went through every one of their tweets. I mean, some of that has to get to Bill O'Brien unless he's just completely insulated.

He's muted it. No, I'm sure he's muted. I'm not saying the individual tweets. I'm saying somebody's probably made him aware that, hey, the fan base is crushing you over this. I'm sure he knows that. Yeah, he does. But does he care.

That's a bigger issue. 1243, it is the Matt Thomas show. Sports Talk 790. 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-790. The Rockets, Daryl Morey, spoke to Jonathan Fagan. Jonathan will speak with us in 45 minutes right here on Sports Talk 790. Hey, it's Eric Gorton.

Gordon for three in the lead. Matt Thomas is my favorite voice in Houston. EG for three. You're listening to the flagship. Sports Talk 790, home of the Rockets. Did it impromptu asked SportsMT yesterday. And tonight, I'm going to go back on Facebook live on our 790 Facebook. account. And it's going to be

for those people that have only seen Ozark season three, because we're going to talk about two different conspiracy theories. There are already conspiracy theories surrounding Ozark? There is one from somebody here in our radio station. Ozark conspiracy theories? Conspiracy theories. By the way, if you'd like to join us, 71321-2-5-7-90,

I will not tell you what they are. I'll give you the topics. One concerns Mrs. Bird's brother, Ben. Okay? And one of them concerns the FBI agent, Maya. So Wendy's brother and Maya, the FBI officer. That's all I'm going to say. And tonight, I'm guessing 7.7.30 o'clock somewhere in that range. I'm going to go on the 790 Facebook page,

and we're going to have an Ozark conspiracy chat. My question is, and I'm not going to give any spoilers here, don't worry. Good. Is season four going to take place during the coronavirus and have Marty and Wendy hoarding toilet paper and killing people over toilet paper? Maybe hostile takeover of a hand sanitizer corporation? You know, I know you're going with this, so I'm going to take a little step further. Is every show going to be isolated from here on out? I'm not sure.

I'm wondering how many of these big shows are going to maybe take advantage of this situation and put it into their season and their story. Yeah, let's run through what's in front of studio audiences. Okay. There's all the late-night TV shows. Like James Corden yesterday was the best of. Stephen Colbert did his from his house. Jimmy Fallon's been doing it from his house. You have all those games, you know, the Price is Right does it in front of a studio audience.

Saturday Night Live does it from a studio. I guess you could do Saturday Night Live. from the studio, but again, you're talking about 25, 50 people. Yeah, a lot of crew. I think we're done seeing fresh television between, for the most part. Live television for sure. Yeah. But, I mean, a lot of these series, these dramatic series are already in the can.

They're just waiting until the proper time to release it. And now is obviously an opportune time. That's why you saw that Michael Jordan documentary get pushed up. Because now is when you're going to get the most eyes on it. All right. I have something terrible to say. guys are going to tease me. So you ready? You ready to tease both of you? Yes. So I do watch two soap operas. I still do to this day. And I'm still watching them. And they're obviously on,

they don't have audiences, but they have people on set. How's my young and the wrestle story line going to move along here? How is my Bull and the Beautiful going to move along here? They probably had a few weeks already done. So they'll probably run those and then. Because you don't run repeats of soap operas, typically. Yeah, I don't know. You may. You may lose your You're soap operas for a while, man. Yeah. But normally they don't reap, like in the months of May and June, they don't go back to a storyline eight months ago.

Now, they'll do a repeat on a holiday, Labor Day edition, Christmas, Thanksgiving. But no, you don't ever see a repeat normally in a soap opera. Do they ever go, they're January through December every year? Every year. Really? Yeah, that's why I'm, that's why they don't think summers off like regular shows? No, that's why they're so heavy in costs because. That's insane.

They have all this cast and they run. 12 months of scripts. When do these actors get some time off? That's what I'm saying. Why would you want to be a soap opera actor? I mean, I don't know if the money's any good. It's probably not bad. It's not terrible, but you don't get to repeat.

Like, if you are a, if you're on stage and you're in a theater or you're musical or you're in some place, you repeat the same lines over and over again. I bet they could put an entire year worth of this stuff together in under six months. I mean, it's not like high production value stunts, a lot of heavy editing. But I can almost guarantee you that the soap operas, and I'm sure there are some of you that watch, not many, but some, they're probably going to have to go to some of the most iconic moments in these shows because you can't have 15 characters all on cell phones or on video cameras doing a soap opera. Well, depending on their schedule, they may have already gotten an entire year recorded. No, there's no way. We're in March. There's no way to get a whole season done.

I don't know. I think they tape three to four weeks ahead of time. They might be able to pull off an entire year in a week. I don't know. They're really bad, so. We should do. No, they're not. They're wonderful. One take per scene. Yeah, we can pull that off. Why don't we start banking shows ahead of time for us?

You want to get, like, after this show, record a couple of more shows? We could get probably six to nine hours in comfortably. I mean, there's those games. Hmm. Phone lines haven't been ringing off the hook. Well, we've got people who don't talk to us now. That's good. This is nice.

But we can insert phone calls, and we wouldn't respond to them, but we'd say, okay, here comes caller number one. We could stage phone calls. Nick could just call us. We could use voices. Hey, Matt. What do you think about Dusty Baker? Why is Jim Allen a mobile joining us here in the show? Hi, Jim.

Okay, let's go to some folks. Let's say how to Chris and Copperfield at 1253 on 790. Hi, Chris. Christopher. Yes, sir. You're on. Speaker. Hello.

Hello. Yes, sir. Yes, Chris. Is this Matt? Is this Matt? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. the question, did you ever get the commentators for that game on the Nickelodeon?

No, I know that just, they just brought that up yesterday. There's no bit no determination. Who's going to do it? Okay. I was thinking about Burton Ernie. Okay. Any other suggestions? Possibly the Grouch.

Oscar the Grouch could be the sideline reporter. Who would host the Nickelodeon NFL today? I have no idea. Okay. Well, at least you thought about Brunnerney. At least you got that for us. They're PBS, but... That's right. Thank you, Chris.

Actually, they're not PBS. They're HBO. Are they HBO now? Yeah. Oh, that's right. Do you tell me Sesame Street's off PBS? HBO purchased Sesame Street from PBS. They own it now.

So they can swear now? No. Well, I mean, I guess they could. That would bring up the ratings. Like a big bird is this like alcoholic, struggling detective trying to figure out in crack cases. HBO should release an adult version of Sesame Street. I think that would be amazing. And Oscar, the garage is dropping an F5.

bombs on people. Oscar the Grouch is the street informant that he pumps for information using the real characters. That would be some of the most amazing TV I've ever seen. Mr. Snuffelophagus has got serious gastral intestinal issues and he's just rancid everywhere he goes. And like, what the hell is that? Oh, I'm sorry. I just couldn't hold myself back.

Yeah, that could be something. I could see an R-rated version of Sesame Street. We're grown-ass men. We know what that is. We just wouldn't show our children that. Cookie monsters and like in the cycle. word. Craised.

Count Dracula. What's his name? The Count? He's facing sexual harassment charges. Yeah, he seems like he could be grabby. Ah, ha, ha, ha. All right. We should change this.

We don't mean to get a morbid on you. Rockets would have been, I'd have been home from Philadelphia tonight. Hmm. I'd be asking you how the Liberty Bell was. I'd been like, I would have said I wouldn't have known. Have you ever seen the Liberty Bell? Not in person. It's cracked.

It is. Hi, Steve, you're on 790. Good afternoon. Hey, good afternoon, guys. Going back to your soap opera thing, days are alive, they take about 10 shows a day, and they're booked out six months in advance already. So they have six months of shows already. See, Matt? Wait a minute. I don't believe that. Do you work on the show? No, I actually met some of the crew members last year here in Houston.

How can they do 10 shows a day? there's not enough time in the day to do 10 shows a day. It's 30.5.30 more. They go to 6.000 the evening. Yeah, but there's got to be editing. There's got to be sliding in segments. There's got to be post-producing. I don't. I'm going to look it up. Because, I mean, not that I don't, the person would tell you a lot, but that I could see them being a month ahead. I couldn't see them seeing being done for six months ahead. That'd be crazy. Plus, storylines could change. People could quit. People get sick. When I met them in August. I met them here in August. We made a comment about the show, and the guy who I was talking to who's on the show, he said, wait until November, you're going to see some surprises. Oh.

Fair enough. Boom. They hit. All right. Well, you know what? Steve, I appreciate the eyewitness account. That means more. Why did you go to this event, by the way?

What's that? Why did you go meet these people? Because I wanted to. I've been a big fan of days of life since I was a teenager. Oh, see, you know what? Did he say Days of Our Lives? Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. So I'm reading the Days of Our Lives does shoot eight months in advance, but the other soaps, Young and the Restless Bold and the Beautiful General Hospital, are just about six weeks. Okay. So most of them, okay. Steve, let me see. Can you, I want, how long have you been watching Days of Our Lives for?

Why? How long? Oh, since 1939. Okay. Wow. I'm going to tell you, I was a Days of Our Lives fan until a specific event happened, and I turned it off and never watch it again. Do you think, could you guess?

I'm asking you to see if you know the answer to this question. Oh, was it when Marlena was possessed with the devil? Correct. I think that's when a lot of people turned it off. But then, you know, you just kind of get back into it again. Yeah, not me. Thank you very much, Steve. Good information, my friends.

Okay, so we're both right. The CBS soaps tape six weeks in advance, days of our lives at eight months. Woo. Marlena possessed by Satan, 1994. It was the most of this. moment I said, you know what, I'm done with you days of our lives. So you could say Marlena being possessed is the DeAndre Hopkins trade

of days of days of our lives? Yeah, but I didn't get fair market I didn't get return. I just turned it off. No, maybe I jumped the shark. Remember when Fons jumped the shark? Yeah. That's what that was the jump the shark moment of that show. That was, I was done with that. I don't know. Everybody's going to have their own favorite shows. But that was for me. I grew up watching that one because my mother

used to watch that. And then when she got possessed, I was like, you know what, you can have it. And this is your soap opera digest rewind for the day. Jonathan Fagan's going to join us in half an hour to talk about his visit with the general manager, Daryl Morey, the Houston Rockets. If you guys want to get in and want to get into soap opera conversation, you know, it is what it is. One o'clock approaching here on Sports Talks and any hour two is next. Is the Matt Thomas show. Now I'm getting people to send me in a variety of soap opera things.

Our friend ATX Hubbore Girl says when Carly Gettman was buried alive is when she bounced in days of our lives. Somebody got buried alive. Well, she got out. I don't know how she did, but you're right. I was out after that one. I mean, if David Blaine could pull it off, why not Carly. Wait, is this why you named your daughter, her daughter, Carly? Just like the name.

Nobody else. There was no, nobody to name her after? Like Carly Ray Jspin? Carly Simon. By the way, she's C-R-L-Y. That's the way you're supposed to spell it. I've seen four. 48 different versions. Say again? C-A-R-L-Y. Oh, I thought you said L-A-Y.

Carle? Carle. Carle. Yeah. Oh, goodness. Welcome to the second hour of the show. News headlines the day. Not a whole lot except Wimbledon has been canceled due to the virus. First time the event, Rossi has been canceled since World War II. I'm not a tennis fan per se, but Saturdays and Sundays are meant for the women's final and the men's final. 8 o'clock in the morning, you grab breakfast. Yes. Or you just. day up. You know, you always say that, but I've called you at 8 o'clock in the morning. You're never awake. It's because usually I'm asleep. Yeah. You're not staying away. You were never staying away from

Wimbledon. No, I used to wake up early for Wimbledon. Back when I was a huge Pete Sampers fan back in the day. Who's your... He'd be through his... Sweatting through his third shirt by the third set. Here, let me give you my Mount Rushmore of tennis. Okay. Okay. Jimmy Connors.

Your own personal Mount Rushmore? Yeah. Okay. There's no like, hey, this guy, there's plenty of people that were better than these people. But I just, if I was going to watch tennis, these would be the four guys I would watch. Pete Sampras, Andre Agassie, Jimmy Connors, and John McEnroe. You could have everybody else. I know there's been way, way more successful people out there. But those would be the four I would go with. We're just watching McEnroe to see if he flips out, right?

Yeah. He used to verbally abuse, and that would be an understanding. That's even selling it softly there. The way he would attack the chair empire. Throwing his racket, yelling at him, screaming at him. But him and Connors had some legendary, legendary matches. I was a huge, Pete Sampers number one. Okay.

Raphael and Dahl, I liked. I used to refer to Andy Rodick, but he just was a disappointment every time. That was unfortunate. But he married well. Didn't like Agassi Agassi just rubbed me the wrong way For whatever reason No, I liked him

I liked him But with the long hair And also with the bald head I don't even know if I have a fourth I like Danny Murray I don't know Okay Female side

Serena And that's it Serena I used to root for her to murder Maria Sharpova I don't know why Marina Sharapova Just for not frankly I think she did

With the racket Are you talking about Anna Kornicova Oh that's what I'm talking about yeah Chris Everett Lloyd and then it was just Chris Everett I like Monica Seles, so he used to root for her Yeah

That's it That's about as in depth I can go with the females Davinport No No But I mean that's one of those things Again

Tennis fans don't need us Tennis fans like We know when you're going to watch us You're going to watch us The final two days of the U.S. Open That's right around Labor Day And you're going to watch the Saturday and Sunday in April

for the men's and women's championships. There was a 2017 Australian final on, I think it was Saturday or something. I watched about a good hour and an hour and a half of it, yeah. Let me ask you this. I'm glad you brought that up. What have you watched in the last three weeks that you're like, okay, I'll just flip the TV on and see what retro is on, that you really enjoyed. Like yesterday, just giving you an example, the Braves and the Mets from 2001,

the first game since 9-11 was at Shea Stadium. That was interesting to me. I would have normally not normally cared about it, but it was just nice seeing FDNY hats on. All the responders were there. There was a tearful, God bless America. It was kind of a good game just to sit back and just see, not necessarily the game action itself,

but just how we reacted to having sports once again. I haven't watched a second of live TV since this all started. You're not the only one, I don't think. Now, we make jokes about what we don't like watching. Like, I've seen too much Astros low lights to satisfy. Too many Houston sports low lights peppered along all the networks. I don't need North Carolina State versus Houston on my TV ever again. It's been on at least twice already.

I don't need Utah versus Houston game six where Stockton makes the shot 97. That came on as well. What do we need? What do we need? I was watching the Cornhole Championships for a little bit. I was watching a little bit of dodge ball, the Dodgeball U.S. the Captain's Cup or whatever they called it. But what I'm asking is what sporting event per se, like an old, like I think Texas,

USC, they're going to put that on TV. That'll be on tomorrow. That's going to be fun to watch because that was the greatest college football game ever played. I'd probably seen that game at least eight to ten times. Well, the Longhorn Network puts it on every day. Yes. I mean, they've got to feel some kind of time. Right.

What else is going on? Imagine if you are. They're not going to be able to air the commencement speech this year. Or the 25 guaranteed exclusive baseball and or softball games. That's true. So what is the most interesting event we've seen? I know that ESPN the weekends has put WrestleMania on. doesn't do much for me because you can go back and look at that anytime you want to if you

have the WW Network. I don't. I was watching some classic fights. I watched some Holyfield Bo this weekend. See, when I think of classic things I want to see again, there's really nothing this decade because I can go get on YouTube and find it pretty fast. As I was talking about the other day, when they have Monday night football on and they have the classic Monday games, wouldn't it be fun to have a 1977 Pittsburgh Dallas Monday

night game on. We had Roger Staubach for the Cowboys. When you watch those games, it's almost like a different game, and it actually is kind of slow. Like I watched some kind of, there was like some 1980s Bears versus Packers matchup that I was watching, and it was like it was a different sport, almost. So that's, you think that's the reason why. Jim Zorn was the,

was the Packers quarterback, I believe. Yeah, he was there for a little while. Greg Cook, I believe, was on the team. Yeah, he might have been backing up Lindickie. I don't know where it was, but Jim Jordan eventually. Yeah, somebody was hurt. Lindickie might have been hurt or something. Because Zorn's best day is really as a Seattle Seahawk.

Yeah. I don't know. He was only with the Packers 85, so it had to be 85. I'm so, I'm such a fan of the retro stuff. Like the NBA TV had a game on between the Bucks and the Hawks, I think, where Steve Smith scored eight three-pointers in a quarter. That to me is okay, but it's not legendary. Give me anything in the 80s between the Lakers and the Celtics.

When the NBA began to really thrive. when the Lakers and Celtics met and felt like every other year for the championship. Those were knocked down, dragout, incredible games with so many Hall of Famers on the floor at one time. That's when you can get into a rabbit hole and watch for two and a half, three hours.

I guess. Some of those, like I said, some of it just doesn't hold up because it's such a different game. I remember when I was in Austin and they had classic Texas Longhorns game from their championship season in, like, 1969. Like the game of the century, Arkansas, Texas. We watched that game, like a bunch of us

I was at my brother's frat house. Yeah. And we were like, this sucks. Because that game was 15 to 14, and they called it the game of the century. Was it because of the camera views weren't good? The camera wasn't good. The game was slow. It was all triple option.

It was a bunch of three and outs, three yards in a cloud of dust. I mean, it just was not entertaining. So maybe it's more generational. But if you went to school at that time and you were at the University of Texas in 1969, you probably still to the state think it was the greatest game ever played. Probably. But it was 15. The final score is 15 to 14.

It's like Alabama fans love beating LSU for the national championship. Remember that one year was just another but field goals, I think? Or was that a regular season game? Oh, the 9 to 6 game. That was supposed to be game of the century and it ended up 9 to 6. Yeah. No, the greatest college football game ever played is... airing Thursday night on ESPN.

And you know what? They bit stole us because we carried it first. That's true. We are trying to put it. There's some rocket games of the last few years for you guys to listen to at night. Just kind of change. up a little bit. Yeah.

Maybe we should get you on some more NBA 2K. I could do it. I just would have to, I want the uniform numbers to be the accurate ones. Well, we'd fix them. We'd have, we'd have, get Gordy on that.

Have they contacted you to do play-by-play on the 2K tournament? They have not. Dang. I put up a poll on my Twitter about that, by the way. And? I put interest level in the 2K

players-only tournament on ESPN. It's starting Friday. May I vote on this? Sure. Okay. It's open right now. The four options are all in,

watching intently. mild interest, zero interest. I went with zero. I went with zero. I would go zero. Zero interest is at 70%. Really? I thought it'd be around like 50 or 60.

70 is pretty high. I'm surprised 5% are all in. I thought most people would be, or I thought it would be mostly zero interest and then mild interest, which I guess it is. 22% with mild interest. That's where I am. I got mild interest.

I'll check it out for a few minutes. What they're going to have to do, and they're going to put this on ESPN, right? They're going to have really good production. production value to this. Yeah, I wonder if they've, I mean, because e-sports leagues are used to doing this type of thing. There is a 2K league.

I wonder if they have their own commentators and stuff like that, so I wonder if they're going to be on this. So I can't get any freelance assignment on this. There is a 2K league that is owned by the NBA. And they draft their own players and stuff. One of our producers, Jossi, like a friend of his, got drafted by the Milwaukee Bucks. He has to go live in Milwaukee and play for the Bucks in their e-sports league.

What kind of money is that? I don't know. Probably not great. Probably more than what I'm making. Yeah, I had somebody asked me yesterday on the Ask SportsMT about why I'm not interested in e-sports. And it's not because I don't value what people's opinions are and what they want to do with their own free time. I just was never a video game kid. Yeah, it's past your generation.

Well, I mean... I mean, I'm trying to be rude or anything. No, you can be fine. But no, first of all, they don't need my age people watching it. They want people between the ages of, say, 15 and 30. Probably living with their parents. Yes. Probably not having a full-time job with high cholesterol levels.

Even younger than 15. I mean, there are 10-year-olds who are, I mean, you said Carly was watching people there for a little bit. She's off of that now. But that's what kids do. They watch something. You know what she's doing now all the time? She TikToks constantly.

TikTok is taking over. Speaking of TikTok, a granddaughter of part of Tiger King went on TikTok. We'll explain who she is and what she says. And I happen to agree with her 100%. So if you're a Tiger King fan, you're going to listen to this next because a granddaughter of somebody a part of that Tiger King cast, although really never said a word. No, he never said a word, did he?

You'll hear from her next. It's a Matt Thomas show. 713-212-5-790. Here in H-town, we're social distancing experts. We've been socially distancing ourselves from Dallas since 1836, which is one of the reasons why we've never had an STD. The Houston Sports Talk continues on Sports Talk 790. All right, on Monday, we called the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office.

Yes, you did. And we wanted to check out whether or not Sheriff Chronister from the Hillsborough County office. He put out a tweet and said, hey, if you have any leads on where Carol Baskin's ex-husband, Don Lewis, says, let us know. Story in the New York Times today says that as soon as he put that tweet out, that tips started trickling into the office. Since last week, the department has received an average of six tips a day. Well, you said 6,000.

Well, no, 6,000 phone calls. Tips are ones that go to that special office. Just the tips? Just the tips. Okay. Average of six tips, T-I-P-I-P-S a day. They go to a homicide supervisor and they sign a detective supervisor to call through the, to call through, I never said a term called C-U-L-L-L, to call through the tips. None of them have been credible.

That's about right. I mean, what was Sheriff Kronister thinking? I'm going to go on my social media account. I'm going to put the phone number out there and I'm going to be able to. tell them what exactly happened. I've been holding this back for 30 plus years, but it's at least I can do as I can tell them right now where Don Lewis is, Carol Baskin's first husband. Now, if you don't know if you've not seen Tiger King, first of all, where have you been? Second of all, come on, go watch it. Well, apparently somebody that did watch Don Lewis and

Carol Baskin's relationship was Don Lewis's granddaughter. Tiffany Lewis. good old Tiff. Attempts to find her on Instagram have been unsuccessful at this point. I'm sure you've been stalking very hard. Facebook requests have not been put in just yet. I do not follow her on Twitter because there's only 9 million Tiffany Lewis is out there. You don't want to follow the wrong one. But Tiffany Lewis, Don Lewis's granddaughter, does she went to TikTok for this?

Yes. I thought TikTok was just for 12-year-old to dance. pretty much but it's also a way to communicate it obviously here is Don Lewis's granddaughter talking about would you call her her ex-step grandmother

or current step-grandmother I don't know do you have does one have a step-grandma I guess you do well here is Don talking about or Don Lewis's granddaughter Tiffany talking about Carol if you're watching this it's because you've watched Tiger King I should probably tell you who the hell I

My name's Tiffany Lewis. I'm Don Lewis's granddaughter. He was the one that was allegedly murdered by Carol Baskin. First and foremost, I do want to thank the producers for shutting some light on this horrible situation. I haven't heard his voice in over 20 years, and just hearing it was a blessing. So thank you for that. I also want to thank my aunts and grandmother for standing up and talking about this situation. I know how hard it can be because it's still very fresh to my family. Now, what I want to know is, do you, what do you guys think? Do you guys think that she murdered my grandfather? Or do you think you ran away with none of his fucking money?

Like, who the fuck would do that? He's a fucking millionaire. If you had $7 million, would you leave it? I sure, she wouldn't. I also want to thank Joe Exotic for trying to do what he tried to do. Let me know if I can answer some questions. That escalated quickly. She went from thanking the producers to saying,

And thanks to Joe Exotic for trying to kill my grandma. So does she run an exotic bird zoo? Because, like, I could hear parrots and stuff in the background. No, she obviously lives in a warm climate because she can be found, according to Ross, doing a variety of TikTok dances. Yes. I'm not according to me. According to the article I read. Uh-huh.

And how would you describe those dances? Oh, she's... Well, I mean, she was fully clothed. Okay. She was just dancing. She's got some tattoos. Continue? That's it.

I mean, what else do you need to know? She's dancing for the camera. What more details are you asking for, Matthew? What's her TikTok account? I don't know. I don't have TikTok accounts. I couldn't do it. I was on TikTok for about a half hour once, and it was just, it seemed like a giant waste of my time.

I feel like TikTok is a app for anybody that wants to do cheerleader dances when they're grown. Some people think it's like a Chinese mind control thing, because it's owned by China. Oh, no, not that. Yeah. Well, if that's the case, my daughter is completely possessed by it. Well, it started in China, and it's owned by China. Okay.

So Don Lewis's granddaughter steps in. Do you think we'll ever get further clarity in this whole situation? No, somebody would have to rat her out. It's the perfect crime. Remember she said that thing about sardine oil? Yeah, that was oddly specific. Yeah, where she was like, well, because, okay, remember the Joe Exotic was man? man, he said people put perfume on his feet and he was

getting bid by the tigers. Yes, those tigers were so aggressive. And then Carol was like, I don't know why they would put perfume. If you want to kill somebody, put sardine oil on their feet. Everybody's like, oh okay, Carol. Why would she ever announce that? And then there's the meat grinder thing where she said, my meat grinder's too small. I couldn't even fit his hand in

my meat grinder. Sounds like she tried to put him in the meat grinder. She killed him with sardine oil. This is me just thinking out. No accusations. Carol. I know they like to file lawsuits. Yeah. Probably killed them with sardine oil,

chopped them up, fed them to the tigers. What do you think if you're Carol's new husband? And they've been married for quite some time. That guy worships her. Why would you at least reflect on the evidence that was put into play here and think something's not right? And this

woman could do this to me. What's his name? named Howard? Yeah, Howard. That dude puts on a cat suit and she whips him. I'm telling you. There's no doubt of my name. Oh yeah. Their wedding was even Borderline Satanic. What does she say? Hello,

cats and kittens here? Or what is she... Hello there. Cool cats and kittens. Hey there, all you cool cats and kittens. Carol Baskin here. On my bike track, on my bike ride. Bike path. She absolutely did it. It's just no way that, you know,

from the car placement at the airport to being gone. I mean, and as Don's granddaughter said, why would you leave $7 million back? Well, he had a lot of money buried, so he might have had even more money and run off with that. That's my only theory that makes it plausible that he did this. What's going to stop someone that's just like off their rocker from finishing the job?

Finishing what job? The job that Joe Exotic may have tried to hire someone to do. Oh, you're saying that people out there are so sympathetic to Joe Exotic. Someone's going to go kill her. I mean, it could happen. We could say that about anybody that becomes famous on Twitter or anything. I don't know. I would...

I would... I would... I would... I would... I would... ...it was to stop somebody from trying to avenge Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman and killing O.J. It hadn't happened. Good point.

Yeah. She's just very lucky that she's got a husband that will do anything she wants him to do, and that she was able to feed her previous husband to the Tigers. But as Michael Corleone would say, Matt, if in history has taught us anything, you can kill anyone. One or two on that. one. That was in the second one when they want to kill Hyman Roth. And they do. They do. Because he wasn't feeling well. Spoiler alert. Yeah. Have you watched three yet? No. I did Ozark this weekend. Somebody asked me on Twitter yesterday, are you watching three yet? I said, you know what? No one has said one good thing about three.

So am I going to, am I going to have this terrible taste in my mouth after enjoying one and two so much like I did? They do kill someone really important. Don't say anymore. Don't, don't give a spoiler. Because I feel like we've already given enough of Tiger King out there, but Tiger King's been out for a while. If you haven't watched it, you're just never going to watch it. 1.25 on the Matt Thomas shows. We've gone through a pulpery of topics today, including sports events we need to see on television.

Thankfully, no more in North Carolina State, Houston, for at least two or three days. We got the Texas game against USC being put on in a couple days. The Michael Jordan, as Nick brought up a little while ago, they were going to hold that for the fall. they're moving it up to the 19th. I love behind the scene stuff. I was thinking, Matt, we should all collectively watch about it and talk about it on Mondays.

Like it's a Sunday football game. Yeah, that's fine. It's going to air for like five Sundays in a row. Well, we'll have to treat it like we'll treat Hard Knocks. Back when we cared about Hard Knocks. That's true. Okay. So you all have an assignment this weekend.

DVR, whatever the case would be. You got to start watching the Chicago Bulls documentary. Is that this weekend? No, it's 19th. 19. Yeah, next week. Yeah. Okay, so you have two weeks now.

Get your DVR set. You know, I am watching right now is something called Dark Sun of the Ring. It's about wrestlers that have passed away and the stories behind it. That sounds wonderful and uplifting. It's Chris Minois, the first episode. This is season two, and he was the first episode of season two. Okay. Because here's my problem.

I have watched nothing but violence and despair since this whole quarantine thing came into play. I've knocked out two godfathers An entire season of Ozark I'm watching dark side of the ring I need, and I told you this yesterday I got to start watching it's always sunny in Philadelphia because I need something funny I feel like I need to watch cartoons or something

to kind of uplift my spirits a little bit Yeah, it's true you're watching you're dead wrestlers Oh and I watched Tiger King Tiger King got really depressing towards the end It went from amazing to crazy to crazier to just depressing Netflix has a very popular documentary series called Pandemic.

No, it's a hard pass. I've been watching Who Kill Malcolm X. Start watching some stand-up. That'll make me feel better. There's a lot of stand-up, a ton of stand-up on Netflix. I don't want to watch Robin Williams. He went up killing himself. That's not going to help.

Bill Bear is good. I like, yeah, Bill Boers are all right. Louis C.K. has sexual harassment charges against him. I watched a George Carlin special. One of the few I hadn't seen. I've seen most of them. I watch one of those this weekend as well. So, yeah.

This weekend is about what I'm going to skip Godfather three for a couple more weeks. Because I've just been down a road down a deep road. I told you you can skip that one forever. Okay, good. I got that. Let's get some NBA news going. Jonathan Fagan from the Houston Chronicle is going to join us to discuss his visit with Daryl and his thoughts about the, it's not conflicting,

but it's the ever-changing calendar of when we could be seeing pro basketball back in the world. We'll discuss that with Jonathan. Fagan next 127 is the time. It is the Matt Thomas show with you today until 3 o'clock. 713-212-5-790. Hardin-hammers. The Beard. Springer-dingers. George Springer goes Sean. Your home for the Rockets and Astros. Sports Talk 790. And we look very much forward to bringing you those games of both teams eventually. Hopefully sometime this year to finish off seasons. But that obviously, that obviously. is a big question mark at this point.

131 on the Matt Thomas show we spend 10 quality minutes with our good friend, the longtime beatwriter for the Houston Chronicle, who has a story that you all should go by that hard copy newspaper or to subscribe with a digital service at Houston Chronicle.com. Jonathan Fagan with a visit with Darrell Morey. Without giving away the entire essence of the story, give me two or three takeaways from your visit with the general manager. Well, I guess there's sort of three parts.

first, just how they're dealing with all this time and when they can't go to offices. And basically, they're doing a lot of off-season type work, draft prep, free agency prep. Because whenever, if ever, the NBA season resumes, there won't be much time between the end of the regular season or post-season and off-season. So they're doing all of that. And they do everything. They have messaging apps that they live on. So for front office types, not being in the same room is not anywhere near the kind of big deal that it would be for players. I asked them a little bit.

Well, you know, I'm not even sure how we got into a little bit of spending. Oh, I did. I asked if the revenue, obviously, for this year will go down. The Players Association and NBA then has to sort of reach an agreement on the next salary cap, which then determines luxury taxes, there's a chance the rockets would go from a non-tax team to a tax team. And there's this thought out there that based on the last two trade deadlines that they would do what is needed to be done to not be a tax team, to not pay the tax. He strongly pushed back on that. When he said again, which he has said before,

but he's never been told to avoid that. He can do whatever move he thinks is right. He went on and on that a little bit, which was interesting, some of his stuff. I asked a little bit of – he was talking about the front office. I asked him about how the front office has changed. Gerson left. They brought in Ed Pinckney and kind of adjusted some of the duties of Chuck Hayes. And I kind of partly brought that up because it flies in the face of this notion

that their whole front office is all analytics guys. They have a lot of analytics guys, and they do a lot of work, I'm very proud of, Daryl's very proud of their analytics efforts that he thinks can keep them cutting edge even at a time where everybody now does a lot of analysis, data analysis. But he is a guy, he wants, if somebody leaves who has more of a basketball background, that's what he looks to bring in. And certainly Ed Pinkney does. And so we talked about that. And that led me to ask about the coaching staff. and he had a lot of praise for Mike Dan Tony

and expressed hope that they can work it out for him to be back because as we all know, he is in the last year of his contract. To a bigger picture, and there's going to be some other coaches around the NBA that are probably on the hot seat. You look at anybody that's underperforming. Do you think there will be, regardless of we have a season to completion, there will be much changes. Now, obviously the Rockets have to make a decision about coach

because he has no years left in his contract. but could you see massive changes in coaching because, or maybe not because of the time off? Or do you still think that it'll be business as usual for teams that are unhappy with their current coaching situations? Yeah, I think generally business as usual because you've got some sort of interim-type situations, even if they're not described that way. And if there's a team, like say the 76ers, that would have judged the coaching staff based on postseason success. And, okay, you need to take that next step. And, you know, that kind of thing.

In some sort of abridged postseason or reformatted postseason, would that be even fair? Would you even be able to judge that way? The Rockets are different because, you know, people talk about him as if he's on a hot. seat or coaching first job. Well, that's not how we got to this point. They made offers. They didn't come to an agreement on a contract, but it wasn't that the rocket said, you know, well, let's see how this year goes. They made offers, and it's just the way negotiations go sometime. What was different is they said, I have to get it. Let's just do it after the season. We'll try again. And no, and so either side could say, oh, let's not. But it's not the same as if they had not

tried. They did try to whatever degree you believe they tried, but they did, to some degree, try to reach agreement. So it's a little different from other situations. But I do think the only effect of whatever kind of season might be salvaged would have on any of this is, is it fair to judge anything right now? Because this is all uncharted territory. Nobody knows what will happen. and then after they find whatever they choose, what impact did that have? And did this horrible situation have on results? Yeah, and Jonathan, do you think it will be just more of a reset button for the Rockets? Because not only was it, like you mentioned, Mike Dantonie being judged on this year,

I mean, even the pairing of Hardin and Westbrook, even Darry to some extent. So, I mean, are we just going to say no matter what happens, or I guess Tillman going to say, no matter what happens, this is just the wash and we'll reset for next year? Oh, yeah. Who knows? There's some of that. I think just sort of judging a little bit from Darrell's tone through that Q&A, I think they feel pretty good about where they are.

Despite, you know, they had the four-game losing streak, and they played pretty badly in a lot of that, and then they finally ended it right before the hiatus began. But I think they view themselves as repositioned to a way that they prefer. I don't think they're sort of still judging the hardened Westbrook pairing. I think they've decided that works. They've adjusted. James, I think, is continuing to adjust because his job changes so much,

partly because of the way teams defend him, unlike anything we've seen. You know, we never saw a guy getting double-teamed at half-court or even in the back court. for a full game. So he had to adjust. And he's adjusting to different teammates in their roles and styles. But that doesn't mean he's being judged by the organization.

Hmm. What do we think of this hardened guy? I don't think that. I think they're passed to that part of the process. They seem to feel really good, not just about what maybe they could do if there is a season, but going forward that they have their core signed.

And so they like the way they've been sort of set up. Jonathan Fagan covers the Rockets. He's got a story with Daryl Morey in today's Houston Chronicle. You can check it out either online or buy, stop me by and grabbing a paper or the hard copy itself. Jonathan, I have an emotional as a basketball fan and obviously an interest working in the games in the resumption of the NBA.

So I check your tweets. I check Woge. I check Shams every day to see if there's any sort of updates. I know Mark Cuban did a town hall visit with ESPN yesterday. He's been on television a couple of times. He's really been the most outspoken owner about how it's very important to get back out there. I think he soft-pedaled a little bit about the return. For you as just a connoisseur of basketball for over 20 years down the NBA level,

do you go up and down to about, hey, this sounds like there's optimism, and then today is a pessimistic day. How have you adjusted to reading and hearing from people around the league about whether they'll be basketball again this year? Well, it's kind of two parts. I mean, most of my life, like everybody else's, is trying to manage sort of the stress and sadness of the situation. Because, you know, I'm sort of trying to not overload on news, but there's some days where I'm just devouring everything I can read or watch about situations that aren't basketball, about the world we're in right now. And so it's very important, and I've talked to people about this. I wrote about it a little bit.

You know, I talked to Laurel Dantone, who had a lot of insight into that first story I did a few days ago. And I talked to Keon Dueling, who works with mental health and wellness for the Players Association about managing the stress of this time, that it's a real thing that everybody's dealing with right now. And so, obviously, I'm like that too. When it comes to the basketball, you know, a lot of it is, it goes back to what Dr. Fauci said is we don't set the time. timetable, the virus sets the time table? Yeah. Well, that's true of any plan you can have for restarting a season. Do you restart it with a play-in tournament or some seeding-type tournament to determine things?

Do you have a mini regular season and then go into a full playoffs? Well, nobody knows the answers to any of that, because we can't interview the virus and have it tell us when it will be safe. And we need, obviously we need the testing to have any idea what the situation is in some future month. But until we get there, we need the medical experts. And when we get there, we need the medical experts to tell us, yeah, you can't be putting people all in a gym. And the idea of no more than 50 in a place, well, you can't have an NBA game with fewer than 50 people. It takes more than that. for the NBA, for that particular sport,

if you played games in arenas but with no fans, you'd recoup a lot of your television contracts, but it would be at best a break-even situation. Things like Premier League and the NFL probably could make money doing that because of their television contracts. Hockey and baseball would be losing money to play without fans. eventually they'll weigh all that too. I'm not crazy about the idea of sort of preying in a bubble, having players, staff, coaches, broadcasters all in some Vegas hotel or on a ship somewhere.

For one thing, I mean, how do you incarcerate all those people for, you know, leave your families and, you know, who takes care of them, food service and cleaning services? How do you determine that all, all those people that would then be sequestered if you went to two places with all the teams and staff and everything else that comes with them. How do you determine that everybody is negative? You know, it's just, I don't know that that's how it will happen, but everything in life right now around the world is on hold. And so how the NBA comes up with a way to restart. They can come up with ideas to consider when the time comes, but this isn't the time. Yeah, you know, and people get to throw this at me as well.

Do you go to Vegas? Do you go to Louisville, Kentucky? Do you go to a cruise ship? Do you go to the Bahamas? That's still putting 1,000 people in one area for a short period of time. My thought is this, and again, this is just my opinion, that if there's going to be a resumption of an NBA season, if there's going to be an NFL year, if there's going to be a major league baseball season, you're going to have to do it in those venues where they normally call home, probably start with no fans until the coast is somewhat clear or clearer or much clearer. But the thought of putting everybody in a gym like at the Thomas and Mac Center in Las Vegas,

it's going to have a summer league feel to it. And that's really not the conclusion of a season. That's just guys just trying to go out and play some basketball games. So I don't know where that is, but I feel like if we're going to get it, it needs to be as genuine as humanly possible, meaning that even though there may not be anybody in the Toyota Center, at least it's the Houston Rockets on their home floor playing somebody in the first round of the playoffs. I don't know how you see it. Yeah, although I don't know.

If they do that, the soundstage idea, like it's a made-for-te television event, what do you need an 18,000-seat arena? I guess it would be easier to social distance those who have to be in the arena. They can, you know, have a section to themselves. But I would imagine they would use smaller venues, even like practice gyms and, and, training centers where you can still set up cameras and do that work. But it costs money to, you know, as we saw here, when the Comments and Aeros tried to play a Toyota Center, but we're enjoying the crowds, it costs a good deal of money to turn on the lights and put on a game in venues as large as NBA arenas.

Eventually, that will be something they will weigh too. I do think, though, none of us know. We're just all talking of ideas. And Adam Silver said any ideas on the table. You have them, you know, we want to consider and think it. You know, I put this in a Q&A I did with readers sending questions in one of my answers. If Adam Silver was sitting in my home office, naturally six to eight feet away, and I could just ask him, how are you going to come back?

He couldn't answer. He wouldn't know. and, you know, so that's where we are about a lot of things right now. But I think the two things, the NBA does hope it can salvage some form of a season and declare a champion. And it can't do this until there's a real sense of it's safe. It can't be, well, we're just going to forge a head and whatever damage is done, it's life. No, you can't be that way. I don't think they're going to do that.

So they want, they know what they want, but they don't know how to get there at this point. Yeah, last question, and I've got just a short time. I have always been a proponent of the NBA season pushing back two months for a December start and a late August, maybe around Labor Day championship finish. That's obviously, it looks like that's in the cards for at least for next season. A, does your gut tell you this is going to be the long-term answer? And B, on a personal level, do you think it's best for the league to start the season later? I've warmed up to the idea.

I used to oppose it, but I'm starting to see maybe there are some advantages to it. I just don't know do people watch through the summer. The summer is when people get out, and they're not watching television, and they're not watching the playoffs as much. That said, the finals were in mid to late June, so they found a way to watch then. And people watch in so many different ways now than then when that was the thinking. They're not sitting only in their living rooms anymore when they were.

watch. So that could be something, hey, why not try it and get a feel for this? It would still be sort of a fraudulent test case because it would be after the nation comes back from all of this to where will people act differently. Will they feel differently about going to games and arenas? Will they be celebrating that, okay, the world is starting to turn back to normal and enjoy things? But if they do get a sort of a one- year trial of that concept, it would be worth seeing. It would be something to come out of it, but see if this works, as you say, Labor Day for a champion. Well, I just want to worry about that, the calendar long term once we get the games back going. Jonathan, thank you for the time again. We'll send as many folks we can to your website to check out the article with you and Darry. Thank you for the time, and we hope to bother you again.

Hopefully under better conditions next time. Any time, feel free, but thanks for that. Yeah, go to Houston Chronicle.com and please subscribe to this and other local news outlets because right now, boy, I tell you, local news is so valuable that we all need it to really keep up with what's going on, not just around the world and around the country, but right here. Yeah, for sure. Thank you again, Jonathan. Jonathan Fagan, joining us from the Houston Chronicle on the Rockets Beat. Hey, it's Jeff Blum. Blum fact number 14. I was on the White Sox in 2005. Yeah, sorry about that sweep, H-Town. But we're all good right now, right? World Series champion!

Back to your lunchtime champion, Matt Thomas. Thank you again to Jonathan Fagan for joining us for a few minutes. Matt Thomas show continues. Sports RV, pro-nick low. Those are the Twitter accounts. I'm at SportsMT. On a slow, steady climb towards 25,100. Wonderful.

How is that going? Now, the question is, if I get to 30,000, will we be able to actually go to Vegas? Probably. Yeah, you're not getting there for like at least a year or two. Yeah, I'll be, I'm looking, hopefully for like the fall of 2021. Somebody posted a picture of Carol Baskin with a tear drop tattoo. Yikes! That's funny.

Man, she's been very, very clever if she pulled this off. Well, she did. She did. Or did she? No, she did. And Harrisboro County did a terrible job. I mean, clearly they just did. Oh, no.

What now? As Tony the Tiger and it says Carol's husband tasted great. Not to get off because we got to get Paul on his call here. You brought up Tony the Tiger. I think pound for pound the best tasting cereal is Frosted Flakes. I'm a cinnamon toast crunch guy. If you had one, if we were left on an island, all we had to eat was one cereal. Frosted flakes is good.

It's first of all terrible for you. I've turned into an old man. I like honeybutches of oats. And the Raisin Brand Crunch. Oh, geez. Well, you're going to be regular at least. Yeah. We did Fantasy 5 serials once.

I believe I won that as well. At the end of the day, you can usually say you've won. This Friday is biggest divas. Are we doing that for sure? For sure. Are we going to go an all-time divas? I think we should go all-time. All-time sports divas?

Yeah. I think there's a definitive number one. I think there's a one-two. I'm definitely taking the first pick. Okay. Friday, 23rd. all-time, all-time sports divas. That is coming up on Friday show.

By the way, tomorrow, people we miss hearing from, our buddy Craig Ackerman's going to join us at 2 o'clock. Really? Yeah. Good. Tomorrow? Tomorrow, 2 o'clock. What's tomorrow, Thursday?

Yeah. Okay. We miss hearing from him. Good. I have put in the email to the publicity firm for Ozark. How's that going? No response yet? That's unfortunate.

They probably don't. They're sifting through a lot of emails. Very busy. I'm sure they'll prioritize one Matthew Thomas. Well, I put a high priority on it. Did you? I had to. It's no, there's not life and death, Matt. It doesn't need high priority.

Let me taste that. When the coronavirus is lifted, we'll never get a chance on it. We've got to get them always at home. So it's high priority for your show, I guess. Correct. Not high priority for them. Because here's a thing. As soon as everything gets lifted, they're going to go back to Georgia and film.

Oh, is that where they film? Yeah. Okay. Not weird. They film it in Georgia, but it's supposed to be Missouri. The Ozarks? Taxes. That's very cheap to producer.

By the way, my wife and I were arguing about this, do you think the Ozarks have gained or lost potential visitors because of the show? Gained. Yeah, I would say gained. I don't see why anyone would think that real drug cartel money laundering is going on in Missouri. So you're on the other end. You think they're losing business. I see the thing is I never thought about going there to begin with.

You know, let me throw it out to the audience. If you've ever been to the Ozarks, tell me what it's like. That's a great cook on the line. He was the king of the Ozarks, wasn't he? Was he? I've been to the Ozarks. What do you think? No, that was fun.

Is there enough to do? I guess. What I mean? I guess. Is there a yes or no? Was there like, you know, jet skiing and boating and... Like, for instance, I can take my family to Destin. There's beaches and there's amusement parks.

There's lots of restaurants and shops. Or chisinos? There's no casinos. Oh, there you go. Are there casinos in the Ozarks? I don't think so. I think you can gamble in Missouri. You can't, but not there.

You can gamble in Kansas City for sure. I've done that before. And St. Louis, for that matter. And you can go hit Branson. I don't think so. But if anybody's ever been to the Ozarks, like in the last five years, don't say I was back then 87. In the last five years, you've gone on the Ozarks.

What's it like? Because I don't know if the show has made me want to go visit there. And there's no solid reason for. it. But I've seen that the, and again, it's Georgia, so it's not really even the real Ozarks. Well, you know, Matt, any publicity is good publicity. Even with a show involving Mexican

drug lords? Yeah. And cartels? Okay. I'll buy into that. Paul and Unbow, we'll get to you coming up to start the final hour of the show. 713-212-5-790. And if you've been to the Ozarks, tell us what it's really like, because we're getting Georgia. We're not getting the Ozarks. But I feel like... So you would say

Georgia's on your mind. I like Georgia. They do a pretty good job of... Is it close? Simulating the Ozarks, yeah. But, I mean, there's a really nice places to stay. Are there... I'm not saying, like, fancy five-star.

But, I mean, are they nice... I'm assuming there's plenty of nice rental houses, cottages, that kind of thing. You go swimming in the lake. When we went, we stayed in a rented condo. It was nice. This is recently, or how long ago is? Three years ago.

Oh, okay. Then you're in the five-year parameter, then. I don't trust your opinion. Not in everything, but this one I'll go over it. with them. 157, the final hour of the Matt Thomas show starts after this. Yeah. I'm on my way out. Is the Matt Thomas show.

201 on Sports Talk 790. The Texans have made a free agent signing today. Coming down just a few minutes ago, defensive tackled Tim Jernigan with a one-year deal with up to $3.75 million. He gets a million.25, 1.25 million guaranteed. He is a former Eagle and a former Raven defensive tackle. When healthy, very productive. Problem is he's not been healthy the last couple of years.

Ten games last season for the Philadelphia Eagles. Before that, three games. He has been in the league since 2014. he has played a total of 71 games with 53 starts. He's played one 16 game season. That was in 2016 with the Baltimore Ravens. He played in 15 games in both 2015 and 17, but 13 games over the last two seasons. And a Super Bowl champion.

With Baltimore? With Philadelphia. Philadelphia. Okay. And in that year, he played 15 games. Yeah. So, yeah. Career sack totals of 17 and a half.

He's had 29 tackles for losses. Anything else that comes to mind except what he is? Let's see here. He's 6-2-2-95. He's 27. He is a former, let's see, drafted in the second round, 48th overall by the Baltimore Ravens. Last season, 10 games, had two sacks in 10 games, so seven tackles. Okay.

on the cheap Texas I got no problem with this sign Yeah there's first of all No problem with that signing I like the signing actually And well I mean it's all going to depend on health If he's productive

It's a great steal If he plays 10 games for you He costs you $3 million or whatever One is one guarantee Yeah so I think it's one of those Nice little Bargain What do you call it bargain bin deals

I guess Yeah I mean the Texans To their credit over the years Have done a really good job of getting guys at very little dollar amounts and been somewhat productive. It's the ones they spend a lot of money on that make you scared. Signing players to rather long contracts or inheriting long contracts with big dollars that don't seem to pan out.

And that's why the eyes of this football team are going to be on David Johnson. This guy is going to have tremendous pressure. First of all, because he makes so much money. Second of all, because he's nowhere close to the running back that he was three years ago. And lastly, he's the guy that was brought here for DeAndrey Hopkins now. to be wearing Arizona Cardinal gear. So tremendous pressure on David Johnson. But nevertheless,

Jernigan comes in, provides a little bit of a pass rush, adds depth. Sure, why not, right? Yeah, I got no issues with it. I think it's good signing. If he's average to above and you're paying him $3 million the most,

good stuff. Yeah. You need some money. You lost DJ Reader? For almost nothing, right? I mean, they didn't really put an offer together for him. They knew they weren't going to be able to afford them. He made a bunch of money with the,

Is he getting like $11 million a year with the bing? Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. There's no way that could go on the books for the Texas. Does it feel like to you that everything is right now being thought about paying for three people? 13 million a year for the, for the, uh... God, that's crazy. For the bingles.

Who am I forgetting the third player? You got Watson to think about. You've got Laramie Tunsell and then, oh, Zach Cunningham? Zan, Sam Cunningham's third player. Yeah, you can't pay everybody. That's the beauty of the salary cap. that's why the NFL has more parity than anybody and that's why draft picks are more valuable than anything

you draft the DJ reader in the fifth round you get his production for very cheap for several years and then you don't have to pay him in free agency that's why hitting on draft picks is the best way to compete and be good in a short term in the NFL it's really the best system because in baseball you don't have to hit on all your draft picks

you can just go out and spend money on free agents now minor league systems are important to grow players. The NBA draft, I feel like after pick six, is a crapshoot after that. It's the NFL that you have to manage your salary cap properly because there's not a lot of super crazy free engine spending. And then if you have those guys and keep under their control and you keep them for four or five years, you get them for terrific value and they're very productive and they're part of your team. And they also, you would think they want to stay around for a longer period of time. But yeah, when you miss on three, four, five, or in Ross, in this case, you don't have

ones and twos for a couple of years, you are really. having to rely on savvy general manager who makes savvy trades and makes good free agent acquisitions. That's why if Tim Dernick can come in here and play 15 games and be successful and healthy and play and provide a pass rush, that might be the best deal that Bill O'Brien will do this offseason, not the David Johnson deal for sure. 713-2125790. We had a couple of callers that were on the hold. If you want to get back in, we will get to you right this second.

Right now, Victoria is going to join us. On her way to College Station. Hi, Victoria. What's up? It's awesome. And I've been listening since June of last year. Thank you. I moved from Arkansas in June last year,

and so I've got kind of a unique perspective on the Ozarks. I know the show Ozarks based in Missouri, but most of my knowledge is of Branson and of Northwest Arkansas. Now, see, I've been to Fayetteville before, so I have a feeling of that. I just don't, I've never been close to the Ozarks, So I don't even know if it's... So tell me, I mean, is it a fair representation or not?

Fiction, too. Even... We can talk about, like, popular culture. I mean, like Bill Clinton and things like that, it's a mixed bag. That if you live in Arkansas, you're cheering for the Arkansas Razorbacks and probably the Dallas Cowboys. But Dad was a fishing guide for 30 years,

so we did a lot of outdoor activity growing up. Okay. And in what part of the state is this in? I'm sorry? This is not the Ozarks. You're talking about northwest Arkansas, right? Yeah, so technically the Ozarks. I'm from a little town called Slippin, Arkansas.

Okay. And so the town next door is Codder, and it's the trout capital of the world. It's prime time in the Ozarks. We've also got a place called Mountain View, which is known for its folk music. So there's a lot of culture. Okay. In that sense, yeah. All right.

Well, I need, what, maybe the Ozarks should invite us to do some shows up there. Ross and I go get some jump on a tire and go through the lake that way, right? Try something different. We're bored. You might slow the river. The river's, my dad primarily was on the White River, but we've got the Buffalo National River. Nice. Great national park.

And honestly, the guys in Fayetteville on sports radio, would love y'all. All right. a job up there. Things don't work out well here. Hey, Victoria, nice to hear your voice. Be careful going to college station, okay? Thank you. Thank you. Ross, you've always wanted to spread your wings. Fayetteville sports leader. I don't know if I got the chops for a Fayetteville, Matt.

Joining us today, the defensive ends coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks, followed by the head volleyball coach. And we'll talk track and field right here on Razor Talk. Hog Talk is what it would be called. Oh, hog talk. I like that. I bet you Greg Cook could go up there. and be a god pig suey afternoon yeah fayetteville sports day wake up with the hogs six to nine hogs in a midday 11 to three night time with the hog three to seven hog talk seven the nine pig suey

after dark nine to midnight best of arkansas sports it's like when i take my son to lubbock they have two sports radio stations in lubbock really one is local talk all day and one carries just basically all games. And I was up there, wouldn't I take them? It was in August, right? Yeah, it was last August. And they, they were breaking down the depth chart of the defense. Now, again, if you live and love it, and that's what you're, that's what your experience is, you're eating this stuff alive. You can't get enough of that. But it was a little bit of a stretch for me, because I was, I'm just not been used to doing that. All right, Mr. High and Mighty Major Market, radio host. I'm just different. If I've worked in Salt Lake City, I've worked in Salt Lake City,

I talked more Utah and BYU football than I did anything else. Because the time we were living in, the jazz were not very good. It's all about the marketing which you're in. You were all Alex Smith all the time. Alex Smith. Nobody else from that team with Nick made the pros. In basketball, the number one picking the draft was Andrew Bogot.

That's true. Yeah. And now we here in Houston hate him because of his dirty picks. And he's old. Remember when he came back for like a cup of coffee? Who was he playing for? I can't remember. Was it the Mavericks, maybe?

He broke his leg like in the first minute of the game? I don't remember that. Am I making this up? I don't think I am. Andrew Bogot signed somewhere. Well, he, yeah, he was briefly with the Mavericks after leaving the Warriors, then the Cavs, Lakers, and then Warriors. See, I think he broke his leg with the Lakers. Yeah, he came back with the Warriors.

And I think he did get injured, brother, quickly. Somebody, wherever he was, one of his last stops. And then he goes, I think he's playing in Australia right now. I liked him a lot. And granted, I also only knew him as a college kid. He's probably made $100 million since then, but he was always very nice as a college guy. Seems like a nice guy. Just not happy with all his grabbing and clutching on curls.

Steph Curry would go for a curl and be wide open. You're like, wow, how did he get so open? Well, because Andrew Boggart had a moving pick and then he grabbed the jersey of whoever was guarding him. And he could throw elbows like a mother, too. Don't forget that either. All right, 211 is our time. Fletcher and PD will be what, PD? Yes.

That's teasable right there. Pidi and Magnolia coming up. You're never supposed to talk teasing callers, but PD's a little bit of a special situation. 211, 11, 2.15. 790. 713, 21, 2.5, 790. It's Matt Ross and Nick. It's the Matt Thomas show. We appreciate listening to Sports Talk 790. Larry David did a public service announcement. The greatest television show in my mind, comedy-wise.

I thought it was Hey, I can turn my own mic on. Yes, you can. I thought it was Sanford's on. No, I never said that. The funniest television show ever made Kirby enthusiasm. Larry David has a PSA for us.

In your opinion. That's right, because I'm saying it. But I bet you if you wouldn't find, if you wouldn't found a list, go find two or three lists. Okay. What do you want to say? Funniest television show of all time.

I bet you Seinfeld and Curb are both in the top ten. Again, it's only people's opinions, but I bet you, I bet you I'd be safe in saying that they are in both of their in those groups. In terms of true gut-busting funny stuff. Seinfeld for sure. I mean, it was just probably one of the greatest shows of all time. Curb might not be in that list because it's on HBO,

but all the elements of Seinfeld and then some plus extemporaneous talk and just the characters are just, I think are even better than the four main characters on Seinfeld. Let's go to Fletcher in Baytown on the Matt Thomas show. Fletcher, what do you got today? Hey, I was wondering if, hey, I know that the Texas have four pretty good tight-ins. We don't really know what college where he's going to be yet because of injury, but I was wondering, you know, if there was just a true stud, like maybe not, I mean, I know a Gromp comparison wouldn't be fair to the guy just coming out of college,

but if there was a crew studs, Gromph type guy that was out there, could that maybe help with some of the loss of Hopkins to give, you know, it could be a real threat like what New England had with Grunk and Brady and the Patriots and make up for some of the difference of maybe losing Hopkins. And so I'll just hang up and listen to see if that's fine. We're going to get some draft people on the next couple weeks as we get closer to it. Fletcher, the simple answer to your question is, no, they're not going to go after a tight end, at least very high, if at all.

They've got four, as you mentioned, where we don't know much about. We know about Fells and Thomas and Aiken's. We know what they can bring to the table. In fact, they re-signed Darren Fells, so it's not like they didn't think there was much value in him. From what I have read, and again, I'm not huge in the draft stuff. We will obviously get closer to it and get more into the conversation. But it feels like that wide receiver might be the deepest position in this year's NFL draft. So to answer your question, Fletcher, if they're going to go high with a position player that can catch the football,

tight-in would not be where it's at. They're going to go try to get a receiver. Now, the question is, do you go to receiver or do you try to get somebody in the secondary right away? And it all depends on what they think is the biggest priority. But it feels like if everybody is telling me the truth and it's consistent, the wide receiver position, And this year's draft could be 15, even 20 players deep of guys that can make some sort of impact as soon as this year. In my opinion, even with the signing of Randolph, that they absolutely have to think about taking a wide receiver in the second round.

Because of the fact that DeAndre Carter is just a guy. Kenny Stills is good, but not a number one. Randall Cobb is good, but not clearly number one. and you have no idea about what to expect from Will Fuller or Kiki Kootie. In my opinion, there is only one absolute surefire guy. There's a guy that's had history of being somewhat successful in the past in Randall Cobb, and the rest of them are huge question marks in terms of either injuries or consistency. That's true.

I think as a trio, though, if you look at it, though, if DeAndre Hopkins is gone. Obviously, that's a huge loss. but you look at, if you can have Kenny Stills and Will Fuller on the outside, Randall Cobb work in the slot, I think that's a decent trio. I think that can work. Offensive line is improved.

Deshawn Watson is one of the best quarterbacks in the league. David Johnson is obviously a huge if. I can't put Will Fuller in there. I can't put Will Fuller in the line of. We played 11 games last year. What was it, 10 or 11 games? It's not like he's missing the entire seasons. But those two of those games were injury-riddled short games.

That's true. So he's only at this point, In my mind, whether he's only a half-season guy. And Kiki Kootie is a guy that even when he was healthy, he was healthy scratched. He's doghouse. I mean, we argue about this all the time. Just because somebody has been injured doesn't even they're going to be injured. It's not predictive.

It's just not. I can predict Will Ford is not going to play 16 games and feel very confident saying that. Well, most players in the NFL aren't going to play 16 games. Deionry Hopkins did for the most part. He played 15 last year. My point is this, is that, well, that's because of the last game he didn't play because they were playing Jacksonville. One of the reasons he rested because he had broken ribs.

No, the reason why he rested largely was because they didn't need to play the game against Tennessee. No, point being is that anybody thinks that you can rely on Will Fuller, he's got to prove it. If he can do it, then we can stop talking about that. Of course. He can, though. We don't know. We don't know. Oh, we do know.

He has no history of playing full seasons. We have definitive history of that. we have a history of him having the same sorts of groin muscle hamstring issues throughout his entire NFL career and it's too bad he got he also got hurt and missed an entire season after a very short period of time it's unfortunate because we do know is he's one of the fastest players in the NFL we do know is that people would rip on his hands his hands got better Ross as he is his NFL moved along those are things that we do can we can verify we can't verify that he's a guy that you can rely on for 60 in NFL games because he's never done it before. So until he does it, I think I can calmly say that he is a guy that I can't rely on being there for all 16. If he can do it, then you know what? The narrative can change in a heartbeat.

You're right. Once your IP, you can jump off that list very fast. Okay. You can, you know, it's like being fat. Is it? Yeah. The guy's always fat. I don't think it's like that at all.

Yeah. You can control whether or not you're fat, you can't, or for the most part, depending on certain factors. Anyways, we just to argue about this all the time. Yes, and I'm right. Okay. I am. Well, if he plays 14, 15 games this year, you're wrong.

If he doesn't, then it doesn't matter. I'm saying you don't know. Because everybody said Judevian Clowney was injury prone, and then he played 14 or 15 games every year since he was injury prone. The narrative would change at 14 or 15 games. Guys are always, I mean, like, we just go through the examples. Everybody says Michael Brantley was injury prone. He played, what, 150 games last year or whatever it was?

The narrative can change. You know, once you're not. injury prone doesn't mean you're necessarily going to always be that way. But if I was to say, prone means you're prone to injury. The prone means I have a history that I have a history of this guy always breaking down. No, prone isn't about history. Prone is about predicting. The word prone, what it means. If I am prone to, I don't know, drinking excess, that means that me going out means I'm going to drink. That I will say. So say he has an injury. History is more accurate. They have their IHs is what they are.

Injury histories. IP sounds better, but if you want to go IH, okay. My point is still there. My point is that anybody that's willing to go, well, Will Fuller's going to play a full 16, I go IH, and they go, well, you're probably right then. So if you don't want to be on the IH list,

you play 15 games. Adrian Peterson had an injury-prone label when he was coming out of college, and he's just been an Iron Man. I mean, we can point through people who get that label, and it's not fair. I just think you hate the name, you hate injury prone. That's fine.

predictive and it's really not. You're right. You cannot predict an injury. But I can also, if somebody said, Matt, you're going to Vegas right now. And you're going to predict Prome, predict, whatever you want to use, whether or not Will Fuller plays a game, a 16 games. What are you going to bet on, Ross?

I'm probably going to bet no for any NFL player, and I'll be right. There'd be a handful of players you could say are going to play 16. There are lots of guys that are ironmen that play through it. That's true. DeShall Watson played 16 games last year. If you were to say, Matt, Well, does Sean Watson play 16 games?

I would probably bet on yes he would. He played six games as rookie season. Right? Yeah, but again, I'm not looking at the history. I'm talking about we're going to Vegas. We're putting a bet down on a certain number of players playing a number of games. He only paid 15 last year, right? Well, yeah, I missed the end of the game.

Well, then you'd be under 16, though. You would be wrong. Seriously, y'all know what I'm talking about? You know what y'all are, semantic horrors of which you are. I'm about accuracy. By the way, I found. three lists of the top comedies of all time. Curb isn't in the top ten in any of them.

What years was those produced? What are the top tens and those? Let me find out who these people are. Well, this is from Rotten Tomatoes. Okay. Seinfeld's one. Okay. I love Lucy, the Simpsons, Cheers, Mash, office taxi friends,

the Office UK, Veep in the top ten. Oh, people are going to say, Veep is better than Kirby Enthusiasm. I would find that to be very hard to believe. Let's see. This IMDB list has curbinger enthusiasm at 40th. They have Seinfeld and I Love Lucy at 1-2 as well.

And then this Ranker.com has Curbier enthusiasm at 75th. Well, Ranker's Fank News. It just is. PD 225. Hi, PD. Hey, what's up? What's up? What channel? Is that wrestling show on Netflix?

It's on Vice. Vice. Vice. V-I-C-E. Vice. V-I-C-E. Like Miami Vice. 271 on DirecTV. Oh, Vice. Can you get that on demand?

I don't think so. You might have to pirate it, PD, and I know you know how to do that. No, I don't. I don't. I don't get it. Oh, you can jail. I thought you were trying to jail break the Roku. I was, and I couldn't figure it out.

Anyway, I went on YouTube, and I was looking at the wrong video. I was looking at the one for Fire Sticks. Oh, why don't you look at the one for Rokus? We don't need to be... Because I got irritated. I was drinking. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. How do I tell you? How are you handling this coronavirus thing?

Let me tell you. I got a little story for you. It's stunting it, stubbing it, what's the word? It's stopping it. And do you know where Lake Bottom is? No. Yeah, I feel like this conversation is going in a variety of wrong directions. Kind of thing set up a little rendezvous at the French with some lady this weekend and then she texts me, oh, I don't want to catch the virus.

Yeah, she didn't want to catch her anything you're going to give her, PD. All right, we'll see. We're going to let you go on that one. Kind of a scratchy line and really, frankly, a scratchy conversation. Yeah, how are things on the end? on the dating websites right now with coronavirus. Because you're on that going on dates. He can't meet up.

Or you know what? That's probably easier. You know what you do? You don't have to take her out to an expensive dinner now or the movies or a show. You say, baby, come straight to my place. No, you have virtual dating. That's they get to know them. You could meet in a park. Bring your own booze.

Six feet separation. Yeah, this is, maybe this is the time to get in the dating scene. It's a lot cheaper right now. Well, again, first thing you can see them face to face on the video. No, you just tell her to come over. Say, hey, I've been isolating, you know, you got nothing to worry about. This is horrible. Why?

You're going to say, hey, I just met you over a dating site. Come to my apartment. Yeah, what's wrong with that? You know exactly what's wrong with that. No, I don't. It's not going to end well. Just be up front with him. Just be up front with them and tell them you just install.

Why don't you say, please come over my house. I want to have sex with you. It'd be a lot of easier that way. Yeah, just tell them you installed the sex swing. and it's ready to go. No, you can't say that either, Nick. You're right, because you know what? You do need it out because maybe you can meet somebody from this and they're crazy as all hell.

You don't want them in your house. Because here's the thing. If you have somebody coming to your apartment or your house and you're not attracted to her, you're pot committed. Hmm. I need someone who's deep into the Tinder game right now to let us know how it's going right now. I think Park is the first meet. So you go meet in the park?

That sounds shady as well. Yeah, I guess you need to do it during the daytime. Yeah. It's not a drug deal. They're going to show up with a rope. Where's the nearest park to your house? There's a park on Woodway right by my apartment. It's got grills.

It's got tennis courts. Won't have basketball hoops. They do have basketball hoops. They're taking them down. What? Yeah. He says that too many people around the city are 400-something courts in the city of Houston. What if I want to get some shots up?

You're not going to do it there. You're going to do with hoops. It can install your own goal. I'm not making Matt Thomas money. I'm just saying they're starting today. They're taking the hoops down, the goals. Son of a gun. I don't know.

No, my guess is people are dating through Skype and through Zoom. There's no way. Like, hey, baby, hit me on the Skype. Maybe, I guess. No, I think it's for a virtual, I think normal people, not like you degenerate. And then you start taking your clothes off or why? No, you just say hello each other. You introduce each other.

What if the date's progressing well and it was going to go there anyways? Well, then you can then say, do that virtually? Yeah. You say, give your address then? Yeah. What's up, baby? Give me my number. Do you drink on this on this date, virtual date? Why don't we do this? Why don't we get you a virtual date? I'm good.

Can we cast it, like live on Facebook? Let's get Ross a date. Oh, God. And then let's virtual date it and see how it goes, and we'll decide whether or not they should go out and have a second date or one of them should go to each other's apartments. We're going to have to get the lady to sign like a waiver or something. Yeah, I'm going to have to sign a waiver as well. Yeah, this is a terrible idea. I don't really care about your dating life. Thank you. You should just be doing it.

You should just twitch. Sports. Cancel. Quarantine, baby. All right. Dude, it couldn't get any worse, huh? DeAndre Hopkins being traded. Coach Billy O says, hold my beer.

What? What? No. And let's see what the fuck they know. The Houston Sports Talk continues on Sports Talk 7-night. Some people are weighing in with what's going on with them in their dating life. And? Tom in downtown says, I'm single and I'm in a couple of Facebook singles groups.

See? Last week, we had two happy hours on Zoom, and last night I had a FaceTime chat with a girl for our first date. Yeah, I'm out of touch, ATX, Oberger. You're out of touch. Yeah. Calm down, Matt. It's okay. I just don't like being attacked on Twitter for all the wrong reasons. Matt. Out of touch per usual? You don't think I should take offense to that? No, because it's true. It's not true. I was right. I continue to be right about a lot of things, and y'all never get me credit.

Oh, please. All right. A couple things. Mark Berman, who he might tweet 85,000 times a day. That's not. That seems like a little bit of a reach. Okay, 8,500 times a day. He tweets that, where is the tweet here? Let me see here. It's a, oh, Amy Reagan, R-A-G-A-N, she works for the Houston Food Bank.

She's a chief development officer. $100,000 donation coming from Texans, head coach Bill O'Brien and his wife Colleen. She quotes, oh my gosh, it means so much to us. That kind of gift of support will make such a difference as we're trying to help people through this very difficult time. Great, right? How are the replies? There's only three of them. Okay. So you would think that maybe this is a opportunity for Twitter to be soft or be pleasant or be at least decent human beings. Three responses. One person says, hashtag fire bill o'brien

two one says I'd rather starve oh my gosh and the third one is F you bill fuck who you uh wait where does this tweet that you're seeing from me

how long ago was this about an hour ago oh okay all right I'm seeing one from yesterday about this and it's got 120 something replies and how are those replies

can he give back Hopkins I just want Hopkins back don't need his job then I'll be impressed Give your job up if you really care about Houston. Then he donated 500K to the Phoenix Food Bank. Oh, no, no, no, not nice. He donated DeAndre Hopkins to the Cardinals.

Oh, here we go. Here's the reply. It's reply time. Go ahead. Not the only thing they've given away this month. Donated Hopkins and now this, O'Brien is a given guy. He also sent a 23 and 24 first round pick, 2023,

2024. He should give himself away. I'll starve if he'll resign and rescind the Hopkins trade. Do you think, we talked about this a little bit last hour, do you think that any of this is getting back, that somebody that Easterby

or one of other of the people that actually Bill O'Brien will talk to is getting like, man, we are getting annihilated on this. Yeah, I think so. They have to know. what do you think Bill O'Brien's reaction is? I can't wait to prove them wrong or

or playing the soundlight over and over again. You suck too? Yeah, you suck too. It's probably a little bit of a hit to his ego. I don't think it's going to make him change his ways in all. I've never. I think there's no way you trade away a star player and it goes well for any GM ever. It'd be like in our business.

If we ever had a guest on or an opinion that was so overwhelmingly unpopular that people would just inundate it's day after day after day saying how could you say that how could you believe that it would be like me coming on this radio show and saying you know what the trade to arizona isn't that bad after all no kidding I could see why bill O'Brien did it let's give him a chance on this I'd get annihilated from people because that just doesn't make any sense at all rightfully so. By the way, article in the athletic, quoting a former head coach, the following. I'm in the minority here, but I can understand what Houston is doing. The coach did not like Hopkins,

and then he is all over the place as a player. I don't know how well he runs anymore. It's hard to evaluate when that is the guy the quarterback is going to throw to all the time, and he is a scrambling quarterback who is buying time. It'll be the same thing in Arizona. You can argue what they got for him, but if you believe in the back like they obviously do, you feel like they got a number one pick Johnson and you got a number two pick.

O'Brien is looking at it this way. Said a former coach, which makes me think there's a reason why you're a former head coach. Well, all of that can actually be fine, but yes, you can already what we got to him is holding a lot of weight there. That's like saying, you know, it was a good show at the Ford's Theater. Now, obviously, things didn't go so well for Abraham Lincoln, but it was a really good show.

Did that one get ratio, too? It's just, you can't yada, yada, yada, yada what the compensation was. They're married together. You can say all these things. We've talked about it this whole time of why you need to get rid of him. but what you got for him is what makes it even worse. And I'll say this and we'll say this for the next three to four years, maybe even after that,

if you really felt like that you did not want to give the extra money to DeAndre Hopkins because you thought that it was too much money, you had to take care of other players, and you were also not particularly pleased that he was on a great Monday through Saturday guy. If you thought, we're at an impasse, we don't want him to hold out, we don't want him to poison the locker room. and you said, I've got to trade him.

You didn't have to trade him three weeks ago. You just didn't. And you didn't have to get only a second round pick and a running back, making $10 million over the next two years. You hadn't had a good season since 2016. There will be no way unless David Johnson rushes for 1,500 yards. Even then. And DeAndre Hopkins catches 25 passes a year and gets hurt all the time

that this trade will ever be justified. So whoever that former coach is is obviously a former coach. coach and a current buddy of Bill O'Brien's. So who could it have been? Who's been fired in the last few years? Freddie Kitchens? I don't know. Who's the coach of the Giants?

Was just there for a short time? Is it Pat Schumer? Pat Schumer and Bill O'Brien buddies? I don't know. Because it has to be somebody that clearly doesn't know what he's doing because he's out of work right now. There's just, and I will fall on the sword on this one, and I will eat the biggest piece of crow pie out there if this deal is not completely and utterly one-sided towards the Arizona car.

You don't even have to eat crow. It's just, you should have got, all you have to do is look for other wide receiver, number one wide receiver deals and know the Texans got shorted. It doesn't matter what happens. It doesn't matter if DeAndre Hopkins quits football completely and goes and lives in a Buddhist temple or something. The trade, they did not get fair compensation. They just didn't.

Didn't get fair compensation. There's no way to spin it. And you cannot tell me he's a step slower. Because here's the thing, Ross. He was never a speedster to begin with. Exactly. So this argument of, well, he is a guy that is, you know, down, you know, taking the first edge towards the bottom of his career is just not accurate.

In breaking news, he's younger than David Johnson. And not, doesn't have an IH. Okay, yes. And David Johnson, maybe four years ago was a top five running back. DeAndre Hopkins is still a top five wide receiver and it has been done to the last three years and probably will be a top five receiver for the next three years. I would say so, yes, he's 27. That's why we're first of all, we're pissed that he left, that he's gone, okay?

But if you gave, if you had two first round picks as part of this, You had a first and a second. You had anything that could justify what the Minnesota Vikings got in return for their top-wide receiver. You can live with, you can somewhat live with it. You can be mad at Bill O'Brien, but this two shall pass. You got, as Michael Orvin said, a ham sandwich. And, oh, by the way, it was yet one more example of, if it's not the O'Brien way, you're out of our way. That's exactly what it is.

it's it's it's it's just gotta get mad about it from no and i'm not even trying to defend it i mean it's not like i'm the president of the john of the dionre hopkins fan club he's just a hell of a receiver for for a football team that needed him desperately how many times ross that he that he saved de sean watson's bacon by catching a ball in midair with a with a fifth battle against another defensive back and a 50-50 grab for it he got it every time yep he had so much respect. Here's the truth that you don't want the truth about DeAndre. He had so much respect for the NFL. He probably

pass-interfered offensively three times a game and maybe got away with it almost every time. Once in a rare while, he would get an OPI called against him. But by and large, he got away with it. And that's just the truth. Because people respected his game so much.

244. Final segment of the Matt Thomas show. In a moment, 713, 21, 2, 5, 790. 713, 212. 5.790. No fear. No worries. And no hair. It's the Matt Thomas way. Houston Sports Talk continues with the Matt Thomas show. All right, there was talk of a super match between Woods and Mickelson. The PGA has not endorsed that yet because again, they are suspending all events. There is talk now of a two-teamination.

best ball event featuring those two gentlemen with an NFL player next to them. One current, one retired. Phil Mickelson, Tom Brady against Tangerwood's Peyton Manning. I guess I don't really know the golf games of Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Why wouldn't somebody take more down your own? Yeah, that'd be not too fair. That'd be not fair. Right now, Superbook USA would have Phil Mickelson and Tom Brady is a plus 130 favorite.

it, excuse me, plus 130 dog. Woods and Manning would be a minus 150. Really? I remember that guy, I don't know if you were with me or not, but I argue with a listener. I said, Phil Mickelson's going to beat Tiger Woods. And he's like, you're nuts.

Tiger's 10 times a player Phil is. Yeah, on a tour, when they were both in their prime, absolutely. But for a one-night event, I had Phil Meckleson win, and he didn't win. Well, it was in overtime. It was a close match. It doesn't matter. But the guy was at him. He's like, there's no,

way that Phil Mickelson stays with him. And he did, and he won. Wasn't that a winner take all like $3 million or something like that? It was $9 million. Was it that much? Gosh, that's crazy. That's pocket change to those guys. Is $9 million pocket change?

For them guys, yeah. Maybe not as much for Tiger since Eland got half his money. Yeah. Even still, I think he's doing okay. Yeah. If you lose half of a billion dollars, you're still doing all right. It's like, you know, we had, who do we have on it? talking about DeShont, Pat Mahomes,

thinking, making 40 million. Was it you brought up 40 million dollars a year? I think it was, was it Aaron Wilson? Somebody did. Yeah. I think it was Aaron Wilson. In the 40 million dollar range. By the way, happy eight year anniversary to Pat Mahomes and his girlfriend.

She put on Twitter yesterday. Oh, really? Good for them. My guy. That's obviously a very good investment. I mean, she bought the stock early on Pat. Yes. And it turned out very, very well.

Matt, maybe they're just in love, okay? Why can't you just celebrate two people and little lovebirds? I don't disagree with that. But it helps that he's not worth hundreds of man's hours. It will be. Doesn't hurt. Doesn't hurt. It's like LeBron James' high school sweetheart.

He's still with her, right? That's a good get. She didn't recognize that at 15 he was being chased after. You probably knew, but when he was about nine. That's true. It's like, hey, there's a nine-year-old dunking the ball. I think that's why Kim married me Yeah

She's like Guy Well you're a little short of the net worth Of one Tiger Woods or LeBron James I'm trying to think Because I may I make an okay living But why did she marry me She saw promising you Matt

Yeah You were at broadcasting prodigy Matthew Calling you of age games By the age of 20 That's impressive Yeah While people were trying to cheat off me In astronomy class

When I was trying to cheat off them Gosh at age 20 I was struggling at UT. I was doing the PA in 1994, so that would have been 22 years old. You did what? I did the PA for the Rockets in 22. I was on the air on 700 at 19.

Now, when did your wife meet you? What were your credentials when you met a young Kim, whatever her nickname is? I mean, her maiden name is. Her name, my name is Johnson. We were at school at U of H. I was working full-time, going to school part-time. I think I was in my second year doing the PA Okay

This was 95 Yeah No Was your first year Uh 94 And then I did 94 93 94 94 95 95 96 And then I went to the universe

I called the games for U of H in 96 97 I did the PA for two and a half years And then went to do the U of H games On the radio We met out for the second championship Yeah this makes a lot of sense wait a minute so she went after me

because she think I was going to No it's because you're so handsome and charming man That's what I was thinking That's exactly what I was thinking That she's like man you're so handsome and charming Despite the back you were almost 300 pounds Yeah man And hair on the side

You had a heart of gold That's what mattered A little cholesterol A little blockage but also a heart of gold And maybe good revenue potential Yes It's not like she's you know Got expensive taste or anything right

Yeah she's very modest We only have 14 Amazon Prime package just delivered our house every day. Yeah, yeah. That sounds draining, Matthew. Mm-hmm. Very bad. By way, you know, if you try to order on Amazon, it's like mid-April now.

It's two weeks. It depends. I did that for something for a couple of days ago, but then I checked yesterday and it was better. Just FYI. I just saw a story that says some guy walked out of Amazon because apparently sex toys are considered essential and they're still shipping those out. Oh, there you go. So you still get those.

I'm confused about what's essential and what's not. If you guys figure that out, we are here on the radio are considered essential employees. But, like, is a car wash open right now? I wouldn't think so. But you can social distance at a car wash, right? You could. You're not in the car. You're not talking to those people.

You got in your car. You go inside. You get a cup of coffee. Hit the popcorn machine. If it's a self-wash, it should be open. Yeah. Our liquor store is essential? Yes.

Yes. Okay. That's smart. That's just good business. Yeah, because let me tell you something. Everyone's drinking more than they did before. Everyone needs liquor and guns. And takeout.

Yeah, with no liquor and no guns, people are going to stir crazy even worse. All right. I need alcohol to numb the pain, Matt. Have you bought a frozen thing of a margaritas? Yeah, that's pretty much my only big purchase. I bought a half one from a local watering hole near our house. We're still sipping on that. That's good.

You can make your own cocktails. It's just FYI. It's true. How's the margarita machine doing? It's in the garage. I got to get it out. I got to bring that garage. I'm going to bring it out.

That was a staple when the Astros were losing 111 games a season. 10th inning show at 1157 at night. You need to go to 1230. Why? No one's calling. No one's listening to me. People are pissed off the coast to coast. You need to go to 1230 to do the 10th inning show after the Astros got beat by the pottery for the 8th straight time.

I thought it was a bottom of the hour you couldn't end on. You had to go to the top. No matter when I wanted to end, he wouldn't let me end. Just one. I had to read Tommy Manzella box scores. Brian, was it Mueller? Was it starter for them? Yeah, Brian Mueller, who played the guitar.

First time I went to spring training. Brian, you're the number five starter. How do you feel about that? I don't know, but let me play you a little ditty. Doom digger doom, doom, dooms. I was like, what? Nice guy, though. Dark times indeed, Matthew.

Mike fires on the mound of the night for the Oakland A's against his former teammates. Is that right? According to who? Stratomatic, I don't know. Have we been checking on Stratomatic, by the way? We haven't updated. No, we haven't done a post-game show since the opening day when they lost 90-6.

Let's get a stratomatic update on how the season's going. Zach Grinky got rocked. Is he doing okay since then? Voices we miss hearing from. Craig Ackerman is going to join us at 2 o'clock tomorrow. Wonderful. And you're going to get an NFL draft person on, right? And we're working on it.

Have you really started working on it? Very, very, very busy. Nobody believes that. Adam Clanton He told me that that was originally his line And you stole it That is true Very, very busy

But you use it way more than he does So I mean, Matt has things that I say We're like an old married couple Yeah, we are I have things that I don't know who said what You guys still, you know Still what?

We know what old married couples Maybe do or don't do Go to bed at 730? Yeah, sure, I don't know Have coffee and breakfast? I didn't finish my sentence It was kind of open-ended Matt has phrases that I've taken over

And then he has phrases that We just don't know. We just been together too long. I tell him, every time I ask him something, he never gives me a definitive answer. He goes, I don't know. Okay, why not? Like, believe it or not. No, like when I said, you have a question for this guest and he'll put up his shoulders in the air.

And then he wants to take hold. I'm very nonchal out about everything. And then he jumps in when you want to ask a question? No, I give him the opportunity to do so. We're like an old merry couple too. Yeah, I heard everything. It's different than y'all's relationship. Yeah, we don't bicker as much.

But it's still like an old married couple in a lot of ways. What's on a rather large program today? Hell if I know, it's this quarantine. man. Great tease. That's not a great tease. We already got Wex shaking his head. The show hadn't even started yet.

I can't turn it on every day. Same thing. Oh, sorry. You want to use my mic. It works. This one works now, though. Nick has to handle it for him. This one works now. Could you turn on wax's mic so he can say things? It's on now.

It's on now. You nailed it, Matt. We've got to speak into the microphone. That's not new. I couldn't be any closer to it. And I'm not going to get closer to it. Closer to what? He's telling me I'm not talking into the mic.

Oh, it's fine. What is on the A-Team show today? We will have Chandler Rome talking to us about probably this stratomatic update. Y'all may or may not give before you say goodbye. Pittsburgh Beat Rider talking a little bit about the AFC, the Steelers, and how they hope Big Ben is as big as ever this year. His beard is rather large. It is. Has he gotten fat?

I've only seen his beard in his face. Was he never not chubby? Yeah, well, but I think the beard makes him look like he's got a fatter. And maybe we'll even steal a bit from one of our shows here on Sports Talk 7-9-4-15. It's not our show. I don't know what it's going to be yet. I'll listen because you know I'm a big fan of the A team, and it's up next. Talk to you all tomorrow at noon.

Nightcap at 6 here on Sports Talk 7. You're damn right.