The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - The Matt Thomas Show PODCAST : Astros Say They're Sorry

Episode Date: February 13, 2020

The Matt Thomas Show w/ @SportsMT, @SportsRV, and @ProNickLow 2/13/20Grading The Astros Apology (0:00)@ChrisGordy joins from Spring Training (20:26)Nick Turturro Weighs In On The Astros' Apology (54:1...3)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Much larger than life. Yeah. Lunch timers is the Matt Thomas show. 12 o'clock and lunch timers. Good afternoon to you and welcome to a Thursday edition of the Matt Thomas show here on Sports Talk 790. You got to apologize. Fine. Oh, what are you going to go?
Starting point is 00:00:41 You're going begrudgingly? Or are you going to go insincere? Begrudgingly. Oh, you can't give a begrudging apology. You've got to give a sincere apology. I'll go somewhere between begrudging and sincere. How's that? Somewhere between, where between?
Starting point is 00:00:54 I'll straddle the line. What kind of line? It's not completely sincere and it's not completely begrudging. I'll tell you what the line is. The line is you probably f***ing up the apology. That's the line. If I f*** up the apology, then I'll apologize for the bad apology.
Starting point is 00:01:06 You can't apologize for an apology. You get one shot. That's it. The greatest television show ever. Let's pump the brakes on that. My opinion. You don't get a boat. Well, your opinion's wrong.
Starting point is 00:01:32 We saw it on Twitter a few minutes ago. It was Jimmy Trinina. Trana? Who's he with? Sports Illustrated, I believe. Okay. And it absolutely fit. We'll discuss Kerb at another day for being the greatest show of all time.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Okay. We got a meeting on the bone to get to. Well, well, well, we tried to guess. We tried to anticipate. And frankly, I think we were closer to being completely accurate in terms of who was going to be up there as compared to not being completely wrong. It was not a group of 10. It was Jim Crane. It was Dusty Baker.
Starting point is 00:02:13 It was Alex Bregman. And it was Jose Altuve. And they all said their things. Jim Crane had asked, answer some questions after. Dusty Baker had to answer some questions after that. And then everybody, all the media, 500 of them, ran to the Astros Clubhouse, where more of the truth serum, or at least the interpretation of, came out. So I will say this.
Starting point is 00:02:37 And then look, the press conference took place at 8.30. If you've been listening to our radio station at any point a day, you know what you've heard. And we're going to, every segment of the show today, we're going to mix in something, whether it be from Crane, whether it be from Bregman, whether it be from, Maltuva, Correa, I believe, Verlander, Lance McCullors, Carlos Correa. If I've forgotten somebody, I apologize. You're going to hear something all throughout the course of the day. The press conference, probably an F or a D minus?
Starting point is 00:03:07 Give it a C. Oh, really? I don't know. No, you need to be, you need to know. Okay. C. You know, that was just, no, I don't think that. It wasn't good.
Starting point is 00:03:17 But I'm not going to give it an F. for sure. Because what are they supposed to do? Well, as I'm saying, but even that, Correa and Al-Tube and Bregman just looked super uncomfortable up there. And read off a prepared statement, one was like 12 seconds
Starting point is 00:03:36 and one was 15. I mean, I'm embellishing a little good. It was a total of 90 seconds between them, 85 seconds between them. So you know what? You may be right. F is too strong. And it's I'll just say this. It was as awkward as the press conference was, I was liberated by how
Starting point is 00:03:56 open the players could have been in the clubhouse. So maybe F's too strong. C-minus to an A-minus. Transitioned from podium to guys speaking somewhat freely in front of their lockers. Carlos Correa seemed to be the most straightforward one
Starting point is 00:04:18 in the clubhouse arena, says he did. They did believe that the stealing offered advantage. Here's the one thing. He came out more strongly than the others. Here's the one thing I did take away from the press conference today. There were lots of national media there that wanted Jim Crane to admit that the Astros cheated their way towards the 2017 title. Jim Crane coached up properly, said, never said the word, cheated.
Starting point is 00:04:52 If he would have admitted, yes, we cheated our way to a title, there would have been a new groundswell of pull the trophy away from them. Well, that's the thing, right? They say, oh, well, we don't think it helped. And it was like, well, they need to come after the trophy. And if he said, oh, it did help, then, oh, well, we need to come after the trophy. And if Jim Crane truly believes that it didn't help. Or if it's a gray area, then, I mean, which seems like a lot of the players believe, then that's his opinion. He doesn't have to come out there and say, oh, this is why we won the world. Series if he doesn't believe that. There's a lot of people who are Astros fans. There's a lot of people who are players who hold the same opinion that Jim Crane has.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah. So I get why people are upset, but I also get why Jim Crane is saying what he's saying, because that's what he believes. But the players don't believe that. Because if they believe that, then they never would have done it in the first place. Well, they got rid of it in 18 because they didn't think it was helping. That's what the Manfred report said. I'm just saying that it was easy to go after them saying
Starting point is 00:05:56 if you didn't think it was that big of a deal, then why did you do it? Clearly you won baseball games because you had intelligence that helped you gain an advantage over the opponent. I mean, in Carlos Correa today said he didn't think it was helping in the postseason because everybody was changing up their signs so much. So what the national media wanted they didn't get. And frankly, if I'm the Astros, I'm not going to give what the national media wanted.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Jim Crane sincerely doesn't know if it absolutely affected it. Although some CBS Twitter feeds are catching him saying one thing, one second, and then flipping it 20 seconds later. Let me tell you, it was a very difficult spot to put him in, his organization in. you just didn't come away feeling great after it. I feel 10 times better after what they said in the clubhouse. Because it felt like a little more heartfelt, it felt a little bit more imprompt, not impromptu, but less rehearsed. I am a huge Alex Breggman fan, but Alex's statement,
Starting point is 00:07:11 um, I mean, it wasn't overly sincere, maybe because he doesn't believe it, or he's nervous because of the situation, but here's what he said at the beginning of the official press conference. I have some brief remarks that I'd like to share with you all. I'm really sorry about the choices that were made by my team, by the organization, and by me. I've learned from this, and I hope to regain the trust of baseball fans.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I would also like to thank the, Astros fans for all of their support. We as a team are totally focused on moving forward to the 2020 season. Thank you. Very rehearsed, very uncomfortable. That's not the Alex Bruegman we know. Here's Brighman in the clubhouse. What about 45 minutes after that?
Starting point is 00:08:17 By the way, kudos to those guys for being ready in their clubhouse because all the national narrative was, well, now El Tube and Bregman spoke. It won't be found anywhere or near. Well, they both spoke again in the clubhouse. Here's Bregman. Did he know it was wrong? I think, I think everybody here today is apologizing for that. Thanks, Alex. Asked why the apology took so long to actually come out and do. I think we wanted to get together as a team and talk about it. And last night, the energy in that room was great. Everyone was remorseful, and a lot of guys are ready to move forward. And a lot of everyone learned from what happened, and we hope to prove that.
Starting point is 00:09:08 That's the moral of the Bregman I know, where he didn't have to look down in the lines or anything like that. That was a completely different Bregman, right? It's weird. And that was my point. That's why I hated the press conference and loved when the guys got in their clubhouse. And not that it was a more informal atmosphere because he had 50 cameras probably in front of every one of them, but it was at least the more honest, Bregman that I know, not the one that was up there reading that statement. So we're going to mix in a lot of folks today. Okay. Listen, I mean, this is the show today. It is what it is. And you're going to be like, let's move on. No, no, no, this is it.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Now, we're not going to spend six weeks on this. In fact, Ross and I will be down in Florida next Tuesday for some shows. And I frankly hope we can do. get some baseball chatter going because there's a lot of things about the Astro season I do want to know about Dusty Baker. What does Breggman know about any of those guys? But today is a day. Today and tomorrow, frankly, are going to be days where we're going to have to sift through this because what's going to happen today is you're going to hear the players reaction. And then you're going to hear reaction Ross, frankly, tomorrow from other people around baseball reacting to what happened today. We've got to react to that. Yep. So. It'll just keep on. And it was something that had to happen. And it's going to be a big story.
Starting point is 00:10:22 nobody was ever going to be satisfied no matter what was said. And you also have to add in the into the mix, the fact that the Astros are being sued right now by the Bullseger guy. And so, I mean, they can't come out and say, you know, this was huge and this affected all the games. If Jim Crane comes out and says that, that's all going to be used in litigation. So that's another thing. Yeah. Today, what I caught from the press conference was, come on, Jim, tell us you're cheated so we can pull your trophy away.
Starting point is 00:10:55 He wouldn't do it because he probably was told, do not say yes, we cheated. Right. Breaking the rules is one thing and has one set of connotation. The other is nowhere to interpret except cheating. And when you say the word cheat, that's what people want to take things away from you. That's just the reality of it. 12.12 is our time. It is the Matt Thomas show.
Starting point is 00:11:18 713-212-5-790. 7-13-212. 5.790. On the trail, it's hard. And it drops it down with a left hand, Emma. This is Coach Dan Tonin. Matt Thomas is a great guy. And I always listen to the radio show.
Starting point is 00:11:38 On mute. What a shot. It just seemed like it was a part of the way things were working that way. And I think the only way we can really approach that is that, you know, we were sorry for what we did and how it was handled and how it wasn't handled at times as well. so it's just a matter of, you know, it is what it is that happened. And we ask for the forgiveness of everybody
Starting point is 00:12:02 and we just move on and try to move forward to 2020 to focus on winning. Do you forgive Astro fans? I think the overwhelming response is, yes, of course you do. Now you forgive Dodgers fans, Yankees fans, fans of any other team? The answer is no. Yeah, if this is the Yankees,
Starting point is 00:12:23 you're never going to forgive them. One single Yankees fan who's like, you know what? This probably didn't matter that much. It's not that big of a deal. They said they're sorry. Let's move on. Here's a one. If you, and we have people listening to us all across the country on the Iheart radio app,
Starting point is 00:12:40 which you should do. If you're a Yankee fan, you don't be funny. Nick, can we call, can we get a hold of a Yankee fan? Just a random Yankee fan? I don't know any Yankee fans. Let me just call random New York numbers Yeah, Chris Gordy was a Yankee fan Who happened on 10 minutes
Starting point is 00:13:03 Nah, I don't count Let's think about this Can we call somebody in New York In the Bronx? Say, excuse me The Bronx, should we just call it like a deli? Yeah Or a bodega or something?
Starting point is 00:13:17 Yeah, um, play, okay, I'm gonna look at a Ross talk for a second I'm gonna go find a deli. Okay, Matt is gonna find a deli. In the meantime, you should follow SportsMT on Twitter. Near Yankee. Steeke Stadium. All right.
Starting point is 00:13:32 We're going to call one here. The tweets aren't that good, but it really helped Matt out and make him feel a lot better. The tweets are amazing. He's trying to get closer to 30,000, and it's been quite the slow climb. It's too slow, frankly. So just give the man to follow. Okay, let's try it. At SportsMT.
Starting point is 00:13:48 We're going to call something called the Court Deli. This may not work. We're going to try this a few times. We have to get the dump button ready for this as well. That's true. Um, I don't have Your call cannot be Oh, Jesus
Starting point is 00:14:04 You always do this, Matt. Don't hit nine. Do one though. All right, I'm going to do one. Mm-hmm. Don't. Well, you can say it on the air. People can Google the deli.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I guess, but I don't want to be that guy. Okay. We are calling the court deli in the Bronx. This is 4.2 stars, by the way, if they're going to go eat at the core deli. That sounds good. Wait, have we been to that one? No, we didn't.
Starting point is 00:14:30 to some other. The phone, where to go? This phone system blows. All right, one last time here, and then we're really going to try. Nick, you may have to do the heavy lifting for us if I don't do this right here, because everybody that tries to call on this system, it never seems to work. Maybe you should just give me the number, and I'll use the phone. I know how to use that thing.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Okay, thank you very much. I've used one before. 7.13. Call the court deli in the box. Just call them, and put them on. Don't screen it ahead of time. I'll do the screening. Let's take a phone call.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Let's go to first to Joseph and Pearland on 7-9. Hi, Joseph. Well. Okay. Listen now, Matt. You don't have to give me an extra minute now. I don't know. I can't guarantee that, but go on.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Okay. Who's the bad boss now? The Houston, Nashville. Ain't nobody said nothing about the 6 and 9 of raises in the 70. Ain't nobody said nothing about the New York anchors and lost on the dog. We're the bad boss. We're going to have a greatest season this year. Hey, take care of yourself.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Good to hear from you. Okay. I think he just ran with some random teams back in the day. Are we calling them now? Let's go. Cordellie? Did the Reds cheat in the 70s? Well, they all took a bunch of pills.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Oh, well, I mean, that's just how it was going. I don't hear it. Okay, well, we're working on. I hear nothing. Hello? Cordellie. Cordellie. Hi, who's this?
Starting point is 00:16:02 What are you going to speak to? You? Yes. My name is Matt. I'm with Sports Talk 790 in Houston, Texas. You're on the radio. What is your name? Jose.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Jose. I have a quick question for you. The Houston Astros apologize today. Do you accept their apology? It all depends. It depends on what? Depends on him hanging up on you. He hung up on me. Hello?
Starting point is 00:16:31 Oh, maybe they're getting somebody else. You've got to ask him if he's a Yankees fan. Maybe he's not a Yankees fan. You know what I need to do, Nick? Why don't you get us to a sporting good start? Kala, nobody beats the whiz. No, that's not a secure. That's an electronic store.
Starting point is 00:16:46 What's what a shake shack? What's a, is there big five up there? Call somebody. Hey, we sell your Yankee gear right here. That's what you do. Find us a department store that sells Yankee gear. That's what we'll do.
Starting point is 00:17:02 713-21, 2,5, 7.19. Josh and Cypress says, you stole my bit. Now, I am very accustomed to having my bit stolen. What bid did we steal? to find out. Josh, what bit did I steal? Hey, guys, I remember a few weeks ago when I was frowned upon for calling random Kansas City numbers just to find a Kansas City fan. Yeah, we're doing it for entertainment. You're doing it on your own. That's a little weirder. No, you were just dialing random numbers. You just found the area code and you were just dialing random numbers. Yeah, you were trying to look for women.
Starting point is 00:17:39 That's a different story. And I don't have a radio show either, so it does. make it weird. Yeah, it does make it weird. Yours is creepy minds for entertainment value. Awesome. Well, I'll tell you how to do it. Just find an area code and just go with your heart on numbers. Yeah, but I'm afraid there's 13 million people.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Thank you, Josh. There's 13 million people in you. I don't want to call a Met's house. And we've been doing this for years. Remember when we called the Waffle House like in Oklahoma City? Well, we've done that. We've also called, didn't we call the Bay Area for something? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Rockets Warriors related, correct? I think so, but what was the Thunder one? Was it when Kevin Durant left? I think we were asking them about Kevin Durant leaving. Yes, because it wasn't about Chris Ball being treated there. We got that guy from the Waffle House and he was like, my lifestyle isn't suited for Oklahoma City. Yeah, he was basically giving us a, I'm in the middle of Central Oklahoma and it absolutely sucks. He was.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Oh, okay. Cal and League City says we should call a sports, but that's a great idea. A sports what? A sports bar. Oh, sports ball. Cal, you know a good sports bar in New York City we can call? No, sir. I sure do not, but I'm pretty sure they have hooters. They do.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I've been to the Hooters in Midtown Manhattan before. Matter of fact, that's who we're called. No, I want to talk to a girl. I want to talk to a girl. I want to talk to a true damn Yankee fan. Why can a girl be a true Yankee fan? I am pretty sure they're sitting over there drinking their beer. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Let's call Blondies. That's what's been popping up on Twitter. All right. We're going to call them. We're going to call the Dodger Team Shop at Dodger Stadium. That's a good idea. I'm looking up their number right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Promise, thank you for the phone. Those may be Dodger employees, though. I've got the Nike Team Shop website. I'm looking for a contact number. Okay, let's go Nike Team Shop, either New York or L.A., and actually both. Because you know what? Ross, that's what today was about.
Starting point is 00:19:36 It wasn't about apologizing the Astro fans. You guys accept the apology. No matter what they said, Astro fans are going to be fine. If Hels Aal Tipi was going to be fine. If they would walk, if Halsay Altimian would walk them and said, suck it, we did it. So damn what? We got caught. We might do it again.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Y'all like, go, go. Astros. All right. So I need help. Help me out. We've got to find the definitive places for these Yankee fans and see what those will say they're sorry. 713-212-5-790.
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Starting point is 00:20:42 what may have happened. Do you plan to keep those names with the Astros? I think any new GM coming in would want to take a full view of the baseball operation staff, the whole staff, and figure out how we take the awesome people that we have here and maximize them and put them in the right position for all of us to succeed. It's something that's definitely on the front burner for me. Right now, we've got to get spring training started. We've got to get the players what they need. We've got to get dusty what he needs. But that's something that I'm looking forward to talking about with the staff. Wait, I want to follow up on.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Sure. He just asked you if two people who were accused of being a big part of this cheating scandal will continue to work here. And you talked about like you're going to look at what the skills are, the baseball operation staff. Are you okay having people who were in the forefront of the cheating scandal working for you? It's a good question. And again, I've just gotten here. It's my first week. I want to get to know people.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I want to get to know the entire staff and figure out what we can do to put this organization in the best position going forward. But if you meet this, I'm going to ask again. If you meet a staffer and it turns out that they were in the middle of this, can that staffer continue to work for you? It's a good question. I'm not going to know the answer to that until I talk to the staff. I am the media. And if you don't give me the answer, I don't, I'm not hearing. I'm going to keep asking a question until you give me the answer I want.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I'm the media. I wear plaid shirts. I don't have sex. I make $48,000 a year. And I'm grumpy. I'm going to ask you another question. in the same verbiage and you're going to give me the answer I want or I'm going to pepper you for another hour and a half. And reminder, I wear...
Starting point is 00:22:21 I wear plaid and I don't have sex. And I'm staying in and I'm hanging in Hampton in. Okay. Does that guy write for like pinstripedimes.com or something? I mean, he's asking the right question. And by the way, the new GM's going to fire those two cats. Okay? It's just going to happen.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Maybe. Maybe. Probably. I'd be stunned if they were still around. Well, like I said, in the Wall Street Journal report, apparently a lot of this was, some of what they were doing was advanced scouting that was legal. You can go to video after the fact and try to break down signs like that. Yeah. That was totally fine.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Let James figure that out. Yeah. So James has to get down to the bottom of that. I'm 48 years old. I have high cholesterol. I have thick bifocals. I make $48,000 a year. don't have sex and I wear applied shirts. Now answer my question.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Geez. God, he was so... Smarmy. Smarmy. Baseball people have to be stopped. They're so sanctimonious. Baseball media in general. NBA media wants to be hipsters and best friends with the players. That's true. Football media is just entitled. We carry too much power. Baseball media is just, I'm protecting the sanctity and the shield of Major League Baseball. And I'm going to come and I'm going to stalk your clubhouse. And if I don't get the answers I want, I'm going to run.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Like Jeff Passons a little twit, too. I mean, seriously. Good writer, but God, he's just, I didn't get what I wanted. So I'm going to say that Jose Al-Ti, he's not going to speak anymore today. Or who's a gibroni that said, well, now, You'll see Bregman and Altuby put up an ice and they won't be available for media. They were right at their clubhouse lockers. We as fellow media has got to just chill out.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Reporters have jobs to do. And sometimes it does take a little bit of kneeling to get answers. But put the situation in James, I mean, if James Click is trying to figure out who he should keep around, who he should not, let him do it. It's February the 13th. Yeah. He's like, I'm going to look at this and make an evaluation. like, what do you want?
Starting point is 00:24:44 He didn't get what he wanted. So Mr. Plaid's shirt, I really want to ask this for the fifth time. And here's the thing. My guess is those two guys are dirty on this. I know 100% evidence on it, but my presumption is there's something wrong. Chris Cordy,
Starting point is 00:25:01 I was not talking about you and talking about guys that have plaid shirts that don't get to touch women. I just want to make sure you knew that. What's up, guys? Did you see that, Jabroni, today, attacking our new general manager? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:14 And I mean, you and I talked about before I left, Matt. The national baseball riders are very smarty, and there was a lot of smart me that's going on behind the scenes. After the Jim Crane Presser and we were waiting to go to the clubhouse, there was a lot of those guys going, I mean, what an absolute joke. What a joke. What a joke. Somebody asks a tough question, please.
Starting point is 00:25:34 This is a joke. I was like, oh, my gosh. Like, go have a coffee and chill out for a minute, bro. Yeah, they don't know what bro means. All right. take us through you were there early you saw the setup when you first saw the set up you were like thinking to yourself what I was very confused because the presser said it was going to be jim crane dusty baker and quote unquote astro's players in the press release we get there there's a table with two chairs at a podium i'm going well if one's jim and one's dusty where do the players go and as we saw you know it was just alex bragman and altubay we
Starting point is 00:26:12 heard right before the press it. The two players involved were going to be Altuvian Bragman. So we said, okay, well, great. Those will be the guys who will be the face of this, and they could come out and answer some questions. And so when they went up to the podium with just a prepared statement each with under, you know, less than a minute and then left without taking any questions, I think a lot of us were going, oh, this might have not been the best way to do this. And obviously, Crane got asked all the tough questions. And there's a lot of stuff he didn't have the answers to, you know, stuff that doesn't really relate to him. But I thought they did a much better job following that opening the clubhouse.
Starting point is 00:26:47 It happened. Every member, you know, it's still on the team from 2017, stand at their locker and answer all the tough questions. All right. So as disappointed and as, I should say disappointed, as awkward as the press conference was, I think you went in the clubhouse and you were with a bunch of different people. How many meaning would you say were in the clubhouse during that availability? probably 60 to 70 people total, counting cameraman and all that. Wow. That's usually three times as much because I was telling the audience yesterday, first handful of days of spring training, a couple of national folks,
Starting point is 00:27:25 the local people will be there to beat riders. You're looking at 20. So comfortably three times as many. As awkward as the press conference was, you got in there and you actually got some information that was relevant, interesting, and some. thoughtfulness. So for overall, it's an even split day for the organization. What was your biggest takeaway from what you saw and heard when you were in the clubhouse? Well, Chandler Rome from the Houston Chronicle, you know, I guess he was playing a certain angle for a story, but he made
Starting point is 00:27:53 a point to ask every single player about the buzzers, because that was the big thing that, the conspiracy theorists on the internet were like, they were wearing buzzers and all this. And every one of them, you know, man said 100 percent, no. There was nothing like that going on. don't know who started that. We still don't really have a firm answer a while, too. They didn't want to take his jersey off when he hit the home run off Chapman. But outside of that, I mean, Carl's Cray even said,
Starting point is 00:28:18 he said, look, we're here, we're being open, we're being honest today. I would tell you guys, it's something like that was going on. He said, my reputation's on the line here. No buzzers, was that ever a thing with us? So really, what the buzzer conversation comes across to me is that there is this prevailing thought
Starting point is 00:28:35 that this was going even as in, as in deep into 2019. We heard whispers of 2018. It felt like to me it was fairly confirmed that there was something going on. Are we up to believe that 2019, Chris, everything you've heard,
Starting point is 00:28:49 was a completely clean year for the Houston Astros organization. Yeah, and that's what the commissioner's report backs up. It said, you know, Rob Baford's investigation said there was nothing not above board in 2019. And so the players all kind of clarified that. And ironically, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:06 I was the season where they won the most win. I got the most wins ever, had one of the best offenses ever, and came six outs from winning a World Series title. So as much as everybody wants to talk about, oh, they're not good unless they cheat. You know, 2019 is the firm example. They're a damn good team with or without the side stealing. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:27 So what is your plan the rest of the day now? I'm going to continue to update some web stuff. We got so much. It was so much video and so much. coming in all at once. So much information. I was talking with some of the TV guys. They're like, God, like, I don't even know where to start with some of this stuff
Starting point is 00:29:45 because it was just one after the other different players talking and all that. So I'm going to continue to kind of dissect some of this, see if there's something we might have missed. I was just rewatching the Justin Verlander video. And, you know, he kind of, if you rewatch the video, kind of intimates that they do believe, maybe not banging on trash cans, but maybe something similar was going on with other teams. There was a guy who asked Jim Crane about the press conference, you know, about other teams doing this. And I'm curious to see what Manfred and MLB's angle is going to be here. Do they just, hey, look, Masters are there, the poster boys for being the bad guys, and that's it.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Let's throw the page you move on. Or do they say, hey, look, we've got to look into some other teams doing this. There's no way they were the only guys doing this. I got a feeling their angle is going to be A, but I don't know. There's a lot of chatter out there that maybe there were some other things going on with some other teams. I guess then the question would become, you know, if he doesn't, is that fair to the Houston Astros? If the presumption is that Carl Seltron started this, oh, but I was going to ask you about this. There was a massive defense of Carl, of Carlis Beltron inside that clubhouse.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Was there not? Yeah, George Springer particularly said, you know, we love Carl's Beltran and what, you know, what he met to our club and his veteran presence and all that. And I think some of that was deflecting. I think some of that is them not trying to pin this whole thing on him. I mean, look, I don't think that report was wrong. I think he was a big part of this. I mean, the quote that stood out to me from that article was, you know, he got here and said, hey, all the behind the signs, it's still inside.
Starting point is 00:31:21 That quote alone says, hey, he brought a lot of this here. But I think today that was a lot more, you know, George Springer talked about it being a clubhouse. And I respect all my teammates and that sort of thing. I think, one, he kind of said a vibe that, hey, I'm not going to throw a bell train under the bus here. But two, also maybe a shot at Mike fires that, hey, this is a clubhouse, and we keep everything at the clubhouse when it comes to our teammates. All right, we'll leave it at that. Look forward to your reports later this afternoon, and maybe we'll check it with you tomorrow as well.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Thanks, Gordy, good stuff getting down there. And all the videos you can see on our website at Sports790.com. Gordy, enjoy some downtime, and we'll talk to you later. Thanks, Matt. I'll bring you some great stuff tomorrow about the heating, the catcher, the position at catcher and how that's heating up for the spring, all right? That's a hard pass. By the way, tell me. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Here's what you need to do. Tell all the Astros that Ross and I are coming down Tuesday, and we're going to have some relaxed conversation. We're going to talk about the season coming up, that they need to get all that out of their chest the next handful of days. So we can talk about some real baseball coming up on Tuesday. Yeah, I think you're actually going to come at the right time. And after all this messes over with, I think they'll be way more relaxed next week. All right, sounds good. Thank you, friend.
Starting point is 00:32:40 That's Chris Gordy from Florida. Now, we call on somebody, Nick, we got somebody locked and loaded here. Can we call Katz's Deli? Can we call something famous in New York? We can give a try. You're doing the dial. We'll do it next. When we come back?
Starting point is 00:32:55 Yeah, I just texted you a number for the Cats Deli. My buddy Wade gave me the number. So we're going to call Cats Deli. We're going to find a New York fan, right? You're not the one on Montrose, right? No. A caller actually gave us a number for standing sports bar, a number one rated Yankee sports bar.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Then we'll call them instead. We need to talk to Yankee fans. The Houston Lunchtime Sports Conversation most respected by head coach Bill O'Brien. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Matt Thomas. In his career here in Houston. Of sorts. The Matt Thomas Show. Matt Thomas Show continues.
Starting point is 00:33:46 here on Sports Talk 790. Ross v. Real, Matt Thomas, with you at 713-2125-790. 7-1-3-21-25-7-90. So we said we were going to try to call a New York sports bar. But, Nick, you said you tried that. So what happened? What's the issue now? That did work out too well.
Starting point is 00:34:05 A gentleman answered, and I explained to him that I worked for a Houston radio station, and we were trying to just get a perspective of New York fans' thoughts on what's going on with the Astros after their apology. And his response was, I'm a meth fan. Get out of here. And he hung up on me. Wait a minute. He didn't say get out of here. He didn't say, get out of here. It was close to that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:28 I'm paraphrasing. Okay. We've got, there are 800 million bars. Y'all help out Nick on Twitter. At Pro Nick Lowe. He's trying to produce his show. Give us a definitive bar that we can find Yankee fans. Look, they're a bunch of alcoholics up
Starting point is 00:34:44 there anyway. It's $150. They're day drinking. Yeah. Some of our best listeners are day drinkers. Some of most of our listeners are daydrieves me. Most of our listeners are day drinkers. Help out Nick at Pro Niccolo and send him a bar so we can get the New York perspective, see if they accept the apology. Same thing for Southern California.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Well, L.A. it's 10.51, so the restaurants had opened to 11. We got to have, we got to see if today's apologies did anything. Do you see what A. Rolololus Chapman was said today, Rossi? I roll it east. What do he had to say? A roll D. says he's unsure that if Jose Altube didn't know the pitch was coming his way during the America League Championship Series. Okay. He's unsure.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yes. Well, he was obvious he knew a breaking ball was coming because that's what he was sitting on. Or if he didn't know, that's what he was going for. I accept responsibility, Chapman said through an interpreter today. I gave up the home run and we lost. It's a popular video right now, Chapman said with a smile. And yeah, if you look at his actions, they look very suspicious. At the end of the day, I just don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:52 That's fine. There's nothing groundbreaking there to me. Well, he addressed it. Yeah, he said it suspicious. He doesn't know. As compared to saying, I sucked. There must be some other angle because I never suck. Well, he didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:36:06 That's what he's thinking. No, he said he owned it a little bit. The Astros did beat some really good pitchers. Yeah, they have it in this whole run, yes. Chris Sail. Chapman, Chris Sale. Who's a reliever? Oh, Craig Kimbril.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Yeah. All right. So you're getting numbers? Yeah, we're getting tweeted several options here. Do you want to try calling one of these? Who is, how are we getting tweets now? At B. Zigo is sending a couple of numbers for bars. You do the calling because I don't want to make the show sound bad.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Let's just call the bars. Let's call the bars. And put them on unscreen and I'll handle it from there. Okay. All right. Let's take a call, and then when you're ready to go, actually, we'll let it do it here. Let's remind the folks, we've got more audio coming up throughout the course of the day. We'll hear what Justin Verlander had to say.
Starting point is 00:36:55 I don't know if I want to play that general manager clip again with that cranky-ass reporter asking for the same question. I thought it was entertaining. Okay, we'll play it again. So you can get mad at that guy again. I was mad at that guy. Yeah. Back off. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Who we talking to? Oh, he's dialing up right now. If you want to talk to us, 713, 2, 112, 5, 790. Who is this? Who we call him? This should be the whiskey tavern. Okay. Well, they got to be drinking in the whiskey tavern. Yeah, it's 153. I don't hear any...
Starting point is 00:37:26 I don't hear any... Why isn't it? I don't know. Get our IT department on this. We'll get this fixed. John and Pearland on the Matt Thomas show. Hi, John. John!
Starting point is 00:37:40 Man, our phone just suck today. Can't suck today. We got a lot of people that have opinions. Hi, Matt and friends. What's going on? Hey, how are you? Wonderful. So I've got a lot of Yankees fans.
Starting point is 00:37:55 A couple of them live in Oklahoma. One of them lives in Arizona, and they've got some opinions. I was going to share with you what they said. It's pretty funny. Go for it. So one of them, the one in Arizona, my buddy Nick said, no F them bastards. He says, I don't.
Starting point is 00:38:19 accept their apology ever. You ever notice it's all involving swearing, too. They never just, I don't accept their, I don't expect, I don't accept their MF, you know, yeah, it's all about basically swearing. They're Yankees fans. I mean, do you expect anything
Starting point is 00:38:34 any good less? Yeah, I get it. I get it. Oh, me, hey, over here. So then the other one says, Jim Crane just made himself sound so much more involved by denying that
Starting point is 00:38:51 their cheating didn't affect their championship. She said, I think it's funny that, I think it's funny that it took this long for them to learn Justin Burlander just to shut his mouth. But Justin Burlander would have been better off. All right. Keep it quiet. No, that's thinking.
Starting point is 00:39:19 And thank you for the phone call. Everybody wants the Astros to say nothing. Well, guess what? If you had said that, then guess what the National Media would have been? No, the Astros are hiding. You had to take a day like this. You weren't going to win the press conference. You might have done a little more damage to it,
Starting point is 00:39:35 but by saying nothing at all is the worst. It just is. And everybody that wants to say, well, the Astros don't own anybody in anything, they kind of do. I got a hold of the Whiskey Tavern. And? The bartender that answered
Starting point is 00:39:50 said that he hadn't really been following the situation. So I just said, is there anyone sitting at the bar that wants to be on the radio? and he held the phone up and asked if anyone wanted to be on a Houston Sports radio station. Everyone said no. Why are they all running? We're calling to apologize to these people.
Starting point is 00:40:09 No, we're not. I'm heartfelt sorry for the Yankee fans that feel bad that their team lost to the America League champion soon to be done in World Series champion. Okay. We've got to go to L.A. right? At some point, but it's too early for L.A. No, Randy Newman, though. please. No, we're not playing that. Thank you. We could ask him how they feel about that song really does indicate that's the
Starting point is 00:40:33 official song of Los Angeles. Is it? I think it's California Love by Tupac. Is it really? Sure, I don't know. Okay, so do we call the Blarney Stone yet? What is that? I have not tried that one yet. Okay, call the Blarney Stone. Whiskey Tavern said no. We're going to take a break. Why don't we do, but we're just giving it out there. 713-212-5-7-9. It isn't. I can't believe how it's not working out.
Starting point is 00:40:55 where can we go to absolutely find of somebody that would be willing to go on a radio show and not swear and talk about their Yankees? WFAN. Yeah. Is the Matt Thomas show. We're having to pull off all the desperate measures to get a Yankee fan to accept Astros Apology, Ross.
Starting point is 00:41:27 We're calling Nick Totoro. Right now? Right this second. I don't know if he may be on the set. Yeah, he could be shooting whatever show he's doing or whatever. He's a friend of the show. Whatever show they're rebooting or... You know what?
Starting point is 00:41:41 He needs to get on the reboot of NYPD Blue. I have no argument with that. We need him back on there. By the way, L.A., we're coming after you. Our buddy, Greg Tui from the Colin Coward show, we're going to call him and find out... We need to find an L.A. definitive place to find Dodger fan. Yeah, he's a Houston fan, though. I know.
Starting point is 00:42:00 As I'm saying, we've got to call him to find somebody that's a definitive... definitive, you know, laissez-faire Dodger fan. All right, looks like it's going to voicemail, isn't it, Nick? Or Nick Lodeon, Nick Tutoro. I just went on Twitter. I said, I'm asking for a near, and look, word travels fast. Y'all can retweet Mike Mudas. I got four retweets and four likes.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I'm looking for a legit New York person that lives in New York to accept the Astros apology because today they said sorry. And we're going to move on and start playing in 2020 on your home of the Astro Sports Talk 7.00. By the way, we've got a New York fan list on the show on Iheart Radio that says we're bunch of kids. Okay. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Appreciate you listen on the Art Radio app. What you got? I left a message. Okay. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. Carlos Correa spoke today.
Starting point is 00:42:46 I think I want to put the whole thing before we go to the phone. 713212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-790. He spent a lot of time talking about what a bunch of fooie the buzzers bit was. There's no excuse to that. We were wrong. for everything we did in 2017. It's not what we stand for.
Starting point is 00:43:08 It's not what we want to portray as an organization, and we're going to be wrong about all that, and we really feel really sorry because we know we affected careers. We affected the game in some way. And looking back at it, it was just bad. It was just bad. We wish we were to stop it at the time. We didn't, and for that, you know, we're paying the price now.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And we're deeply sorry, man. It's obviously somewhere we want to be coming to this season. We have to be responsibility for our actions. Did you or anyone on the 2019 team's wearable devices or buzzers? No. No. No. That's a lie.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Nobody wore buzzers. Nobody were devices. The story should be killed already because we know for sure, for a fact, 100% as a team. And I can tell you, because stories keep coming out. And, you know, if I'm lying here, I lose credibility. If something like that comes out, and that's not what I want to do. You guys know me. I want to speak the truth.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Every time I'm talking to you guys, and, you know, it's just straight up false. Nobody wore anything. 2018, nothing. 2019, nothing. 2017, nobody worried about it is either. It was just, you know, what was out on the report. When people talk about 2018, that we started the season doing something,
Starting point is 00:44:40 we didn't do anything. We didn't know trash can. There was no Sanofield camera. It was nothing. Maybe that cold breaker, but that had nothing to do with the players, so I don't know when that stopped or anything. But yeah, 2018, nothing.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Nothing. Just straight up, talented players going out there on the field. winning ball games and showing their talents. Ross, that's genuine Carlos Curry right there. That's not scripted. That's not measured. That's question asked.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Clearly, he was new at these kind of questions were headed this way. But that was about as genuine as you're going to get right there. Yeah, it was good. It was great. That's what, I mean, that's the, what you were expecting or hoping for, I guess, from everybody. You didn't get it from everybody, but that's okay. Carlos Correa came out, and he was very strong, and especially about, the buzzer thing, which, uh, which is just such been, it's been such a, like a Twitter rumor and
Starting point is 00:45:34 conjecture and all that type of stuff and people talking about sort of John Boy's sources and stuff like that. I'm glad that he came out with very hardline stance on that and said, no, we did not do that at all in 2019. I really hope we never hear from John Boy again. You know what I mean? I, I just, he got his 15 minutes and frankly, if the buzzer thing is something he created, he had to be ashamed of himself. He should. because what it's done is added a layer to already a very murky situation to begin with. And it also shows you the power of what someone can put on social media that maybe got something right, but now I've got a chance to further embellish it. And by the way, I'm not having John Boy on the show.
Starting point is 00:46:14 I know. It would be a cold day in hell when I have happened on this program. Let's go to League City and Aaron on the Matt Thomas show at 107. Hi, Aaron. Hey, guys. How's it going? Good, friend. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:46:25 Hey, man. Astros. Look, they apologize. They're going to apologize. It's not even going to matter. This 2020 season, I think we're going to go out there, exceed expectations. And, you know, I think we're going to kind of compete for that World Series title. I know Yankees, you know, they've gotten better adding Garrett Cole.
Starting point is 00:46:46 But, you know, looking at it, we still have a good core guy. And so matchup-wise, we can go up against anybody. and whether, you know, sign stealing that it happens. Everybody does it. But the fact is that you still have to hit the pitch, right? It doesn't tell you what location the pitch is being thrown, right? But it severely helps. Let's not kid that.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Yeah, I'm not going to say that it doesn't help. But, I mean, there's definitely an advantage there. But, you know, going up against it, you look, our guys can go up against any. anybody. And granted, our guys are probably the numbers this year, batting average-wise, they're probably going to go down. Honestly, not going to lie to you. But you look at it, our defense, our pitching staff, we need a little help reliever-wise, you know, in the bullpen. But we can, we can hit with the best of them. It's not going to matter. The games that we've played and we've won one to zero, you know, two to zero, two one, two one.
Starting point is 00:47:55 the other opponents still have to hit home run, make hits, you know, make plays. So, you know, it doesn't really affect, you know, that aspect of the game because at the end of day, if Verlander goes nine and he gives up two hits and no runs, how can you blame the Astros? No, I mean, ultimately pitching is a part of it, and Justin Verlinder was amazing, and Garrett Cole was amazing. And, well, before that, I mean, I'm talking about the 2017. I mean, there was enough things that makes you more irritated, Aaron. They even thought about going to the intelligence because they were an excellent baseball team.
Starting point is 00:48:32 They had a good bullpen, a starting rotation, an awesome nine. They didn't need all that. And that's where I think the aggravation comes in is that this team was not fluky. It wasn't fluky in 18. Certainly wasn't fluky in 19 when there was no signs at all of any of this. That just makes you kick yourself for, they should be by saying, why did we get involved in this to begin with? You're right.
Starting point is 00:48:55 And, of course, you start pointing fingers, right? Everybody's starting to point fingers at Beltron and say, you know, he was the ringleader. He was El Hefe, you know. And you look at the comment that Alex Quora made when they were in London saying, you know, their biggest acquisition was Carlos Beltron. And at that point, you know, you look and say, all right, what's done is done. You know, everybody does it. you know, Alex Cora knows that everybody cheat.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Carlos Beltron knows everybody cheats. We don't even know that the fact that when Carlos Beltron, you know, played for the Cardinals or the Mets, that they didn't try and cheat, you know, to get where they were. So you look at it and you're like, okay, everybody, every team does it. Obviously, we're the first to get, you know, caught using technology and things like that. So it just makes a matter of fact it being worse for the, the Astros, but at the end of the day, you know, we look at this upcoming 2020 season,
Starting point is 00:49:56 and I'm a firm believer that Astros are still going to be playoff contenders, no doubt. We're going to be in the ALCS, you know, no doubt. And I'm a firm believer that we'll make it to the World Series this year, not only, you know, because of this situation that we're in, but due to the fact that these guys definitely have a chip on their shoulder saying they think we did it because we weren't able to do it without all this. Okay, now let's go show them what we can really do, you know, this upcoming season. You know what?
Starting point is 00:50:32 And that's what Ross has been saying. If you ever rooted for the Astros, this would be the year to really go all in. This is the hardest I probably will have ever rooted for the Astros to win. I mean, we will be so pissed off on a July 9th game against Seattle if they lose two to one because that could be the difference between home field advantage or not. Hmm Yeah You know
Starting point is 00:50:52 Forget about for the age It should be we're all in Yeah That's the phrase You let the rough necks have For the age We're all in We gotta prove these
Starting point is 00:51:02 Some bitches Different You know what I mean Okay I don't think that's Going to be the marketing slogan Hashtag
Starting point is 00:51:09 What is let's see Let's say Hashtag Prove them Some bitches wrong No that's not That's not gonna work, Matt. Nick, you like that.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Hashtag, prove them some bitches wrong? That's all right. I had a pretty good one here. Give me one second. Oh, here we go. I'm afraid. It's a segment suspension coming up. We already used this once, but I think Bill O'Brien and the Texans had the best hashtag.
Starting point is 00:51:35 That one would work. You cheated too. MF her? That doesn't fit. That's okay. Don't leave Matt Thomas in your car Take him with you Download the free Iheart radio app for your phone
Starting point is 00:51:52 At sports 790.com Just remember you'll have to feed him Once I spent some time there Understood what was what was happening I didn't I wish I had said more Looking back I can't go back
Starting point is 00:52:08 I can't reverse my decision And like I said I wish I had said more And I didn't for that I'm sorry What did you say? I mean, that's between myself and my teammates. Oh, okay. I'm texting Nick Tutero. Ross, tell the audience how great we are.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Is this the... Yes. Incredible Hulk song? It is. Great call on your part. I'm going to set up Nick Tutero for... Nicky Taturo. Today, tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:52:50 Next week? No, like... I'm texting him. He's like, this is terrible. have the texting on the air. It's okay, Matt. Follow SportsM.T. For mediocre to average tweets, but it'd make the man feel a lot better, and that's really what's important if you would like to do a charitable act for Matt.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Because now it's a time for love. Call Nick right now and see if he can do it right now or if he wants to wait a few more minutes. He's in L.A. right now. It's just okay. Just call Nick right now and talk to him because I'm trying to do a major market radio show. He's trying to have a major market acting career. Well, we can both, you know, do things, take care of each other.
Starting point is 00:53:25 I'm just texting my producer's calling you now. My producer is calling you now. You didn't fat finger or anything, did you? I used my thumb. Okay. Yeah, well, we can't fat finger on, well, that's the fattest finger. It works, so less mistakes. Less mistakes.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Fewer mistakes. Fewer. Way fewer. Sometimes you send those mistakes out. You can't take them back. Well, you know, you can always hit an asterisk and asterisk. And correct yourself. Let's go to John and East Bernard on the Matt Thomas show.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Hi, John. John. Your door's open. All right, let's let's watch you on hold. All right, I won't put you on hold, John. Nick Totoro is in Los Angeles. He is the biggest Yankee fan we know. He's a friend of the Matt Thomas show. Nick, you got a couple of minutes.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Thank you for joining us. And most importantly, thank you, Nick, for accepting the Astros' apology today. Are they personally apologizing to me? or is it you, Matt? Nikki, they're apologizing to the Yankee fans. They made mistakes. They broke the rules. So I know that you're speaking on behalf of Yankee Nation by saying, yes, we accepted,
Starting point is 00:54:42 and we can't wait for an exciting 2020 season. Am I reading that right? Well, I can't talk for all Yankee fans. I do represent a certain spirit when Yankee fans. But I would like to see the Astros as a team. This is what I would like to see. I'd like to see them come out, hold one press conference, and say they're sorry.
Starting point is 00:55:03 And that's not too much to ask for, you know, and then let's move on and let the ships fall. It's sad that this happened. But listen, I believe in forgiveness, second chance. Good. Let's face the facts, you know. It's not a good look, man. It's not a good look.
Starting point is 00:55:19 I really, you know, I didn't like the Astros, but I respected them. And then you find out all this stuff. So it's, you know, unfortunate, but they got to get in front of it. Don't you agree? That's what I'm calling you today. when you get back from the set, you're on a set of a show right now, right? Yeah, but I mean, I mean, I haven't seen the Houston Astros, the team. They did.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Go to Sports Center today. When you get back to your hotel. Oh, okay. Here's what they said. Hi, I'm George Springer. I'm reaching out to Nick Toto, the big Yankee fan who swears on his Twitter account all the time. I'm sorry. They did it deliver perfectly for you, for you.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Did they say that? Did they say that to me on Twitter? Well, sort of. Not at all. I may be lying a little bit. Oh, come on. Now you're stretching it. You know, Correa and those guys, Bregman, I know them a little bit.
Starting point is 00:56:06 I respect them. Okay. I love it just here. It doesn't have to meet me personally. They should just apologize and say, listen, we did wrong. You know, it's just like Pete Rose. He had a bad situation. He never apologized right away.
Starting point is 00:56:19 And that's why, you know, things happen to Pete and they banned them for life. All right. Well, two things. Sometimes you've got. I know. Listen, I'm excited that they're doing that. I think it's a good stuff. step, but you know, forgive, but don't forget, okay?
Starting point is 00:56:32 All I'm saying, yeah, I know, all I'm saying is do the Yankee fans owe the Astros an apology for sending Carlos Beltron and Brian McCann here who basically learned how to cheat with the Yankees, yes or no? No, no, no, no, no, don't put that on the Yankees. Carlos Belchon is not even a Yankee. He played for the Yankees. All right? He played for the Yankees.
Starting point is 00:56:53 He's a hired gun, my friend. He's not even a true Yankee. We don't claim Carlos Beltron. We don't claim him. So don't put him in Brian McCann. He's a nice guy, whatever. He signed free agent and another mercenary. Don't, don't make those guys true Yanke.
Starting point is 00:57:09 I won't do it. All right. Last question. I try to call a bunch of New York bars. And I wanted to apologize to them. And they wouldn't take my phone call. They tell my producer, Nick, we don't accept your apology and F off. Is that what everybody's telling everybody in New York right now is to tell all Houston sports radio shows?
Starting point is 00:57:23 I say a lot of New York fans, a lot of Yankee fans are angry. and I think they're still going to be angry because they feel like they would cheat it. And any time you would cheat it, that may be a championship. Yeah. There's going to be hard feelings. And I get it, man. I get it.
Starting point is 00:57:37 I'm trying to have an open mind, but, you know, everybody's got their own point of view about this. And I'm going to just say, hey, if they get in front of it, it'll make it a little better. You can't change it. It is what it is. But, you know, we got to move on. That's life.
Starting point is 00:57:53 But I'm glad to hear that they're taking a step at least, apologize. Well, I want you to go home, get to the hotel tonight, look on a sports center, and then tweet out what your thoughts are on that. When are we going to see you on TV next? Pretty son. I've got something nice in the work, so, you know, you'll hear about it. All right, Nick. You'll hear about it sooner later.
Starting point is 00:58:12 I'm excited about the season. Good. I'd put this behind it. Good. I like to hear that. All right, hey, safe travels back. Go to Sports Center tonight. Let us know what you think about it tomorrow, okay?
Starting point is 00:58:21 Okay, Matt. All right, I can help. Take care. All right, Nick the Turrell, the megastar, the biggest Yankee fan we know. and a celebrity and a good friend of the Matt Thomas show here on Sports Talk 7. I'd calling him with a little update on that. When you're in California, we're in the set, you don't know what's going on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:37 He's busy, Matt. But now we've given him, we gave him our own breaking news. We told him the Astros said they were sorry. Well, some of them. All right. Jim Crane didn't really apologize much. On line one, we have a Yankees and Astrophane. You can't be both.
Starting point is 00:58:51 No. Okay. All right. Now, he's calling from the 7-3-2 area code. Is it Northern Jersey? Or Southern? Let's see how thick the accent is. Charlie, where are you calling us from?
Starting point is 00:59:05 I'm calling from Seven Jersey. Hey, dear, man. Oh, Charlie. Tell me that you've accepted the Astros and their apologies from today. Oh, my goodness. Absolutely not. I think the entire apology is a bunch of hogwash. Rum.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Listen, man, look, I'm an Indian fan. I'm not that old. I'm 21 years old. I've only seen one championship. and all my other teams completely stink. So the ink is all I got. Now, I didn't honestly, like when I heard the scandal came out, yeah, it bothered me.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Actually, the cheater, they're not cheater, then I felt some of the videos. I came down, okay, they got there with their deserving. Honestly, I'm more upset at the extras right now than I was the entire time. You guys are pathetic. You can't apologize? What's on with you guys? They said they were so.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Charlie, Charlie, they were heartfelt today. Did you not hear it in their voices? Did you hear Jim Crane speak? I've never heard from something so ecstatic in my entire life. Man, but it was a press conference. It had to be measured. You understand these things. If Hal Starbrenner had to have a press conference, he'd done the exact same thing.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Oh, no, he wouldn't have. You know why? Because he would have been on top of his team, and they wouldn't have cheated. You guys cheated. You know, look, you heard him ask you. And Marley Rivera from the FBI, and she asked him. She said, if you guys, if you think that it didn't affect the games, then how come you're apologizing? What's the answer to that question?
Starting point is 01:00:17 They broke rules, and they wanted to say they were sorry. They felt terrible. Why did they break the rules? If you say it doesn't affect the game? Does it affect the games? Does it affect the games? Well, I'm just telling you I'm repeating what Jim Crane told me. Right now.
Starting point is 01:00:29 So that's the reason. But there you wanted to know, do I accept the apology? And the answer is no, because that is the reason. Because you guys don't feel bad. You guys did something wrong, and you don't give a crap. That's not true. I can play sound bites after sound bites, Charlie. I got a bunch of people in the Astros Clubhouse apologizing.
Starting point is 01:00:47 I got it. I got it for you, Charlie. A bunch of guys apologizing that didn't get punished. Nothing happened to them. El Covey, the guy walks off scoffrey, let's be honest. I'm not going to bring a conspiracy theories or whatever. But did you watch the pitch that Jose Al-Tuvre hit up a Roller's Chapman and the end the JLCS last year?
Starting point is 01:01:03 You know what? Charlie, here's the problem. The Astros have owned a Roldus Chapman. It is what it is. They've owned the World Dis Chapman. Look, look at the numbers. What's the Roldishatman's fastball the slider rate? How did the Hose Al-Toole-T knew that a slider was coming on that pitch? That makes no sense.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Right? I think about that. That makes no sense. I'm just telling you that sometimes your pitchers just aren't as good as the Astros. We've proved it to you year after year after year. I'm sorry you're 0-3 against the Astros in the postseason. I can't blame. One little small mistake, one little measly, measly Astro mistake using video cameras.
Starting point is 01:01:36 You shouldn't overall ruin the domination the Astros have against the New York. Hold on. Hold on. Let me say something. A measly mistake. Measly. Tiny mistake. Get it minuscule.
Starting point is 01:01:47 They got your manager fired. They got your general manager fired. They had Alex Corr fired. They had Carlos Bunch on fire. It turned baseball. on its head for the entire off-season. A measly mistake, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 01:01:57 How is that measly? What's measly about that? You know what? They said, sorry. How's that measly? It's, in the end of the day, it was only like two or three games, tops. We won 100 games, three straight years. We, because I'm the backup second baseman.
Starting point is 01:02:11 I'm just telling you. And because, you're totally. You cheat. No, we broke the rules. We did not cheat. We broke the rules. I'm really sorry. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Don't put it like that. Don't put it. That's a lie. You did not break the rule. You cheat. You guys are cheaters. The Houston Astros are cheaters. What?
Starting point is 01:02:27 That is a fact. It's accepted across major league baseball. The Astros are cheaters. They're just as that as the 1990 White Sox. That's what they are. They're cheaters. Charlie, I'm going to ask my audience if we're cheaters. And I bet you most of them are going to say no.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Well, yeah, because they're Astros fans. No, there's smart baseball people to listen to this radio show. Okay. And... I'm just saying smart baseball people are going to say, yes, the Astros broke the rules. But nobody announced they were cheating. It was just breaking of rules. Okay, let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Can you explain to me a logical explanation to what would be the difference between cheating and breaking the rules? There's a clear difference. Breaking the rules is taking rules and breaking them. Cheating is trying to gain a super competitive advantage and super breaking the rules. We just barely broke the rules. Okay. Let me ask you a question. You said you play second base.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Is that true? Back up. Okay. Now, saying that you play second base. Yes. You play baseball on a daily basis. It sounds like, let me ask you a question. Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:26 You know what pitch is coming. Do you have a competitive advantage over the pitcher? And you've seen me hit the answer is no. I don't understand. You think that the answer is no? Yeah. If I'm not a good hitter, I don't care what pitch is coming. I think is coming.
Starting point is 01:03:41 I'm not going to hit it, Charlie. So really, if I'm Max Stasi, I don't care if the pitch is coming over the heart of the plate, I can't hit it. Sorry, I can't. I can't. I'm swinging. Doesn't matter what the pitch is. If I'm not that good, Charlie, I'm not going to be able to take that advantage.
Starting point is 01:04:00 So the answer is no. Okay, okay, but if you're good, and I'm not going to deny it, nobody's going to deny it. The Astro stunk for years, so they can get first-round picks, first overall picks, and draft the players. Nobody's going to deny who is the L-Pubi is a great player. Nobody's going to not how it's a good player. These guys are good players. The fact is, I knew what pitch was coming, and that is cheating.
Starting point is 01:04:18 No, it's not cheating. It's just breaking the rules. There's a difference. Hold on. Max is the name. The name is Max. Yeah, my name is Max. Max. Okay, Max.
Starting point is 01:04:25 So let's, I'll make your deal. Yeah, you go out and put a poll up amongst baseball fans nationally. Okay. No Yankee fans, leave anybody else. Yeah. Okay. Put a poll amongst baseball fans nationally and think how many of them think, quote, unquote, broke the rules. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:39 How many of them think they cheated? Max, is it a rule that you're not allowed to cheat on a test? Yes. The cheating on the test is cheating. If you look at another kid's test in class or another guy's test in school in college, You are a cheater. That's a cheater. Charlie, and I've got to get to a break.
Starting point is 01:04:56 You make up some good points. Charlie, I'll just leave you with this. Charlie, when you steal answers off of somebody's test, that's cheating. What the Astros did in terms of sign stealing and using video cameras, breaking the rules. Two different things. Thank you for the phone call. I appreciate you listening. 131.
Starting point is 01:05:12 It is the Matt Thomas Show. Sports Talk 790. Ross, any thoughts? I'm good. I think I kind of leveled it out. No, I don't think he's satisfied. I don't think so. Hardin Hammers.
Starting point is 01:05:24 The Beardtobahawk left. And Springer-Dingers. George Springer goes shot. Your home for the Rockets and Astros. Sports Talk 790. All right, it was good natured ribbon with the guy from New Jersey. Apparently there's a pole out. You know, there's a poll for everything.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Everybody wants a nationwide pole. Excuse me? You know what I'm talking about a poll question. That a poll isn't stripper pole. Oh, well, there would be anything wrong with it. that. Kronberg flagpoles, which are always very good. 90% according to on recent nation poll,
Starting point is 01:06:07 national poll wants Astro players penalized. Percentage that Rob Manfred cares about this poll is 0%. The deal was struck. The deal was made. You can say what you want. Another reason why the players get suspended, because guess what if you're going to do? You want to suspend the Houston Astro players
Starting point is 01:06:25 five at a time for 15, 20 games? Tennis is going to lack. well who do you suspend and for how long and yeah how do you suspend the entire team you don't you have to stagger them if you're suspending 10 players at once how do the astros feel a team feel the team if you yeah that's what I'm saying you can't feel the team that way you know what if you really want to be that bad of an ass when it comes to if you wanted to suspend the team which is never going to happen you would suspend the entire team for a certain length of
Starting point is 01:06:51 time anybody that was playing the 97 team and then you have to bring up guys from minor league so then you'd be taking the Toronto Blue Jays against the Ron Rock Express baseball doesn't want to do that. That'd be quite a watered down product, yeah. And ultimately, it's not a matter of what the baseball, what the commissioner get away with. The commissioner had to put a little fruit out in front and say, want to take a bite of this apple?
Starting point is 01:07:15 What? The commissioner was the devil? Do you want a bite of this tasty apple? No, I don't. Then you have to tell us what you, you know. Or in the case of Kirby enthusiasm, be careful because sometimes the fruit is not real. You run up chipping your tooth.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Point being is this, if you want to buy to this delicious apple, you have to tell us what you want. And to spare themselves a suspension of any length. Come clean, come correct, and we'll give you amnesty. So you can send me poll questions that you're blue in the face, national pollsters. And it's not going to matter. The answer is zero.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Nothing. So you know what you want? If you want to hide out of the Astros, what you probably do? Just boo the hell out of them. And then the Astros are going to win games. game seven to two and take your lunch money. They're going to say suck it at the very end.
Starting point is 01:08:02 They just are. They have to win. I need them to win. If you're an Astro fan, I'm listening to the sound of my voice right now, you are praying 15 times harder the Astros win. Yes. Because heaven help our world if they get off to a 10 and 19 start. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Which could have, I mean, good teams can start on get rocky starts or start. Didn't they, weren't they terrible at the beginning of last season against Tampa Bay or whoever it was? Very pedestrian. They lost like three out of four or something like that. I split a series in Arlington against Susky Rangers. Then they want to beat the Rangers for a better part of five months after that.
Starting point is 01:08:37 If something like that happens this year, it's going to be all, it's going to be national news. Pray for a, I don't know, 22 and 7 start. That'd be nice. That'd be great. That'd be wonderful. Nice six game, lead American League West, say by May 1st. It has to happen, please. It has to because America's going to come after as hard.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Us being Houston, Texas. forgetting about whether or not you're an Astero fan. You go to an airport. Where you're flying to? Houston. Oh, is that where the Astros broke the rules? Didn't say cheat. Broke the rules?
Starting point is 01:09:06 Yes. How's your team? Or 10 and 19. Ha, karma, bitch. That's what you're going to hear. Exactly. You're going to hear the word karma way too often, Ross. That's true.
Starting point is 01:09:15 But, I mean, would they have won the World Series if they were if they were cheating their way to the, if karma was real? Do you believe in karma? No. I'm a huge karma person. I know. Yeah. Huge karma and a huge karma chameleon.
Starting point is 01:09:26 I'm not very superstitious. I'll leave it at that. Okay, Stevie. Josiah in Beaumont at 141 on the Matt Thomas show. Hi, Josiah. Hey, guys. Man, I haven't called y'all since Brantley swung and missed in game seven on the World Series. I couldn't even listen to any radio, read any articles.
Starting point is 01:09:46 I was just, I was heartbroken. I had to take a break for a couple months. And then this cheating scandal broke or rule breaking scandal, whatever you want to call it. And then, you know, my wife, she's done with the team. a lot of my friends and family who were casual fans. They said they're done with the cheat and Astros. And I'm obviously not done with them. And I try to turn it around and think if big, tall, Xerxes looking, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:10 caveman forehead, Aaron Judge hit 50 dingers and you find out he knows what every pitch is coming, I'd be pretty ticked off too. You know, I don't think I'd be as dumb as little Charlie from Jersey calling in, but I'd be pretty ticked. I just hope we go out and win one. right way this year, guys, and I can call in and talk my trash on Roberto Osuna again. That's what I'm looking forward to. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Thank you for the phone call. Yeah, I'd like to say this thing's going to go away in 30 days, but Ross, 30 days from now, it's going to be a lot more dissipated. When we get real games going, we're going to have some fun. When we get real games going, hopefully they're winning. Smack Talks are going to be an all-time high. You're going to hear cheaters in Anaheim that first week. Okay. Be prepared for that.
Starting point is 01:10:55 All right. you're going to be prepared for guys answering questions and you're going to get guys that are certainly at some point saying we've done enough. I mean, how much are they going to get asked about it after today? You think every city they go in, they're going to get asked about it? I think Houston will be chill. I think other cities will want to want to poke.
Starting point is 01:11:11 In what way? You'll have smarmy New York reporter who wants to get. They're going to go into the clubhouse after a game against the Yankees and say, hey, what's going on with the cheating two years ago? What they're going to go with? They're going to say, hey, what's it like playing the Yankees on a level playing field? It's going to incite somebody. It is.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Okay. That's what New York media does. I don't think it's going to happen that much. Okay. I don't think it's going to be like a knockdown, drag-out fight, but I'm telling you it's going to be, there's going to be at some point, somebody's going to get up and say, hey, we're really done with this. And New York Post guy's going to go, no, I want to ask him more questions. And then it's going to be kind of an uncomfortable situation. PR people are going to get involved.
Starting point is 01:11:49 It's just going to be a mess. But little by little, little go away. Greg Bizio here. The heart of the order is upright. now, Matt Thomas is swinging for the fences here on Sports Talk 790. I think telling people, you know, with regard and telling people we feel bad, she means a lot, you know, not, I don't think everybody goes up there and do that. So like I said, every single person are going to get their own opinion if it's enough or not.
Starting point is 01:12:20 And we accept it. We take 100% responsibility about what is happening. Yeah, if you didn't like it. the press conference. The stuff inside the clubhouse is good. By the way, Nick, you are grinding like a mudda today chopping up all that audio from Chris Gordy, so you don't get suspended for anything you said the rest of the day. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:39 You can anything you want between now and 3 o'clock. I don't believe this. As long as you don't violate FCC violations or just personal code of conduct. We're at lie number 17 of the day for Matt. You think I lie a lot? I don't think it's a lot. I think it's on average. Carlos Corrie, by the way, five minutes ago on Twitter, I don't look at his tweets, but
Starting point is 01:12:57 others retweet. Okay, so some Gibroni name incarcerated Bob. Okay. It's like a Yankee. He's like a Yankee fan and a sports better
Starting point is 01:13:09 or something like that. All right. So he puts a tweet out about Carlos Correa. This is done. This is from the American League Championship series.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Here is, I want to play, if I can't off the audio here. This is Carlos Correa. Who's asked about pitch tipping? This is in 2019 ALCS. Here's that. When I listen to people talking about it in the business,
Starting point is 01:13:38 I just laugh. I just laugh sometimes because, you know, they say that, oh, we had something or the pictures were tipping when, you know, they had nothing sometimes. You know what I mean? We're just watching the game. We're taking advantage of every single detail we can get. hitting is tough. If you're tipping your pitches, fix it.
Starting point is 01:13:58 If you're tipping your pitches and I can see, I'm going to take advantage of it. I'm trying to help my team win ball games and every single edge counts. But I think it's disrespectful to every time we score a lot of runs. People talk about tipping. Nobody was tipping today. And we score what? Eight runs? Like, we're great hitters. We've been doing it for a whole season. When you look across the boards, the numbers this team has put up, through a full season. It's just unbelievable how many guys have been on top of the game this year.
Starting point is 01:14:30 And, you know, not every pitcher that goes out there for 162 tips. His eyeglass game, his sunglasses game is strong. You like it? Yeah, I'm actually staring more of that. How do you feel about the denim jacket, though? I'm not big on denim. I didn't think you'd be. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:46 So somebody said, should we now believe Carlos Korea with a quote's no buzzer statement because he was passionate. Crying emoji, crying emoji. Well, obviously Carlos went looking for his name on Twitter. No, he added him. Oh, did he? Okay. Because I don't think, did he really say,
Starting point is 01:15:04 I caught Oscarian? Let me look here. Okay, he did. Oh, he did. Team Jake, okay. He says eight minutes ago, like I said, 2017 was what would reveal in the commissioner's statement.
Starting point is 01:15:16 2018 nothing, 2019 nothing. This interview was last year and the question was referring to pitch tipping. lies, straight up honesty. Fist bump. Hashtag Be Real. So he's coming out pretty hard lined against the 2019
Starting point is 01:15:34 buzzers allegations. Well, he was all over the buzzer thing. Hinch has come out and said, to his knowledge, there was nothing there, or he was pretty straightforward about it. After the Verducci interview, he clarified because everybody got all upset about it. Now, Carlos Correa has come out, and I don't know who else
Starting point is 01:15:50 has addressed this, but... Here's Springer on the buzzers. the whole device or buzzers. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Let's get a Bible in there. Let's put their hand on it.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Let's go. 713-212-5-7-90. Donning and passing. Get down, Dina, on the Matt Thomas show. Donnie, how are you? Donnie? Donnie? Are we even phone on?
Starting point is 01:16:20 Are you here? Yeah, go ahead, Donnie. I think we're having people problems. Oh, I just said, I don't think that's going to apologize for a damn thing. I'm saying it's a sign of the time. I mean, technology's taking over. I think in a couple months we're going to find out that every team in the league was stealing signs. I don't want to say that.
Starting point is 01:16:43 That's not fair to say that. But do I believe other teams did the same sorts of things the Astros? Yeah. Does it excuse the Astros did? Doesn't mean they shouldn't have received the punishment. Doesn't mean they shouldn't have received the embarrassment they're getting around sports. But if the commissioner reopened up those investigations, Donnie, I bet you there's a bunch of teams. notably, I don't know, say a city that rhymes with
Starting point is 01:17:03 Burek. That's just all that said for far, but I guarantee it a little bit longer. You're going to find out it's quite a bit more than that, if not every team. Well, again, I can't presume that. But the thing that I think you're going to see Ross out of this is you're going to see some hard, fast rules about how far the video monitoring of games and video rooms are into proximity of where the clubhouses
Starting point is 01:17:30 are in the proximity of where the dugouts are. Why haven't we talked about what Verlander's been talking about for like the past couple of seasons? Getting an earpiece so that the pitcher in the catcher can communicate. Just saying one? I don't know what they're going to say.
Starting point is 01:17:46 They can come up with buzzword. Well, excuse my pun. Buzzwords. Yeah, that's terrible. Code words or whatever. And I mean, maybe the is if the catcher covers his mouth with his glove and he speaks
Starting point is 01:17:56 softly enough, but the earpiece is right here. then the pitcher should be able to hear him and then give an earpiece to the pitcher and a microphone or whatever. It's 2020. We can't find a technology where they can communicate to each other. I mean,
Starting point is 01:18:08 we have walkie talkies when we're six years old. We can't find something where they can talk to each other, the pitcher and the catcher. Ferlander's been pushing this for a long time and now we kind of see why. So I don't understand why this hasn't come to pass yet. That may be down the horizon. That would solve everything.
Starting point is 01:18:24 The closeness. When it comes to his pitching, pitch stealing. I don't know how far. the video room is at other ballparks. Matter of fact, minute made, the only thing I see is dugout, bathroom, walkway up to the clubhouse. Well, I thought they changed it after like 17 or whenever it was, and they used to have a no
Starting point is 01:18:41 delay feed, and now the feed has a delay. Yeah, every television, every in the stadium has a delay feat, even in the press box it's delayed. They're going to really double and triple check to make sure there's no live action to it. Let's get the final hour started at the Matt Thomas show. We'll do that when we invite you to join us at 713. 212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-7-90.
Starting point is 01:19:04 If you'd like to reach out to us on Twitter, having a good time today at SportsM-T, at SportsRV. But two lines are open if you want to join us. 7-13-212-5-7-90. Ross, what is today's edition of, believe it or not? Crickets, Nick. Okay, we got an hour. Less than an hour.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Let's go. What do you want it to be, Matt? Let's see what's trending. Springer. Bregman. Altuvae and Yankees. I'm not kidding you. No, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:33 It's all over the place right now. The first thing that comes up that was non-astro-related or baseball is Quavo. Whatever. Is that hip-hop? Cuevo, yes. Cuevo, yes. Cuevo of the Migos. What do you do?
Starting point is 01:19:51 Is he a lot? I don't know what he did. Okay. Madonna is also trending. After Hours is also trending. So I'll give you a little sample size. 713-21, 25. seven out.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Yeah. I'm on my way. Is the Matt Thomas show. I got apologies. Fine. Oh, what are you going? You're going to go on begrudgingly, or are you going to go insincere? Begrudgingly.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Oh, you can't give a begrudging apology. You've got to give a sincere apology. I'll go somewhere between begrudging and sincere. How's that? Somewhere between, where between? I'll straddle the line. What kind of line? It's not completely sincere, and it's not.
Starting point is 01:20:37 completely begrudging. I'll tell you what the line is. The line is you probably f*** up the apology. That's the line. If I f*** up the apology, then I'll apologize for the bad apology. You can't apologize for an apology. You get one shot. That's it. Sorry seems to be the hardest word. It's sad, so sad, so sad with the sad situation. And it's getting more and more. I just had an excuse to play Elton John, so excited to play it. What do you put this song on the top 10 Elton Johnometer? Not in the top 10?
Starting point is 01:21:24 Yeah, the slower, sappier songs aren't going to carry that much weight. This is not a great song to me. It's a fantastic song. Is there a top 10? Stop it. Now that's a little. That's unfair. You know what you are?
Starting point is 01:21:37 You're just 100% contrarian. It's a lot of fun to be that way. What percent contrarian am I? You're at 96. Let me take you something. This show, I don't know how this show survives with two contrarian a-holes like yourselves. I'm just, we just have different opinions in yours, Matt. Just because we don't, first of all, we're talking about contrarian.
Starting point is 01:21:58 You're the one with a different music taste than everybody else probably. Let me tell you something. I, even though I don't know any hip-hop groups, I understand if they're popular. You guys take one of the greatest singers in the history of music and you go, man, it's not that good. Or he has to really top ten songs? Oh, I'm sorry, every song he made is amazing and wonderful? No, but you said it.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Okay, well, then why can't I say one of them I don't like? But usually you say I don't like that song. Every time I put a song up there. That's not true. How many, Nick, go look this up really quick before I take some more phone calls. How many records of this song did Elton John's sell of this particular single? Sorry seems to be the hardest word? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:22:34 So what? I'm going to say more than 25,000. Rebecca Black Kids' Friday's Friday. Friday had like a billion views on YouTube. That doesn't mean it's good. But she was a one-hit wonder. And nobody bought YouTube. It was just a free look.
Starting point is 01:22:43 I'm just saying just because something is popular, it doesn't mean it's good. But it's great when it's good and popular. For example, Friends. Friends was popular. That show sucked. It was okay. But I'm not going to say it sucked. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Watching Rachel and What's His Face Get Together was nice. Sorry seems to be the hardest word. Peak position on the U.S. Billboard chart number six. So apparently a lot of people, liked it. We went through the, this, what did this come out? We went through number one songs that sucked. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Yeah, why didn't you use this, Ross? It wasn't number one. That wasn't number one. Plus, that's, that's in the 70s, too, right? Yeah, this is 76. We are, we owe you guys a 90s fantasy five. Yeah, we gotta do that. We'll do it in a couple weeks when we get back from Florida.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Joe Cocker covered this song. Hmm? Joe Cocker covered the song. Oh, he probably did it better than me. That's probably a lot better. Yeah, probably was. You're on segment suspension. What? You said you were going to put him on segments.
Starting point is 01:23:39 And I do like Joe Cocker, too. That's the thing. There was somebody I was talking to, and they were talking about how Fantasy 5 is their favorite segment. Well, that's good. I can't remember who it was. We need more topics. We need more topics. We only do it on Friday. Always gets into good or externally bad mood, depending on who loses.
Starting point is 01:23:56 But we'll do that again. We get back from Florida. We will do a fantasy 5 of being 90s, worst number one hits. I handle a loss with much more grace than you do. Kenny G. Oh, God. Kenny G. and Richard Marks did this song. That's got to be great.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Probably not. Okay, you don't need to speak anymore. Now you're out of control. Now you're out of, yeah. 713, 212-5-790. Let's do this. Let's run through a sample of, I'm going to stay away from the press conference stuff because that was very, well, we'll get to crane here. Yeah, I think we should get the crane in there.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Let me give you a couple of cranes. Let's see, what I want you to hear. Oh, here's some stuff. Why he says the team stopped doing this. in 2018. This is Jim Crane. You know, I'm not clear on all of those details. Again, I didn't do the investigation, but, you know, it appeared that, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:47 baseball was enforcing the real rules stronger. They had people in the dugout. And for whatever reason, you know, it dissipated and was over. Did this impact? This is the one that's getting him a little bit because I think media isn't that, I'm going to catch you saying something. I can catch you saying something else five seconds later. This is then whether or not.
Starting point is 01:25:07 the breaking of rules impacted the World Series. Fair question. I've stated, you know, where the commissioner stands on this. I've stated where I stand on this. Your question, you could make that assumption.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Very clearly, everybody would come make that assumption. To determine the effect and the cause is, in my opinion, almost impossible. So, again, we've dealt with it. We've said we're sorry.
Starting point is 01:25:38 We're moving forward and we're going to play some baseball this year. All right. Let's get to the clubhouse where the guys were a little more free flowing with their conversation. Here's Bregman on whether or not he thought it was wrong. I think everybody here today is apologizing for that. Like he's just like pulling words out of a box. Everybody is apologizing. Can we get the Roe Bregman next week?
Starting point is 01:26:10 For that? Hopefully. I hope we do. Jose asked about whether or not his squad has learned from this, and hopefully does not make this the low light of his major league career. Yeah, what can I tell you? It wasn't easy. You know, that it's a situation you never want to be involved again.
Starting point is 01:26:29 We're here. We feel bad. And like I said, I know we're going to learn from this as a team. We're going to learn from this as organization. We're going to learn from this as individuals. And like I said, hopefully we're going to move forward, and we're not going to let this be our highlight for our careers. George Springer asked, could the Astros have won the World Series
Starting point is 01:26:53 without the use of the videos? I believe so. I believe in our team. There's so many special moments from that year. This team has been the same, you know, with a couple of additions. here and there for the last of three, four years. And I believe in this team. And I believe
Starting point is 01:27:12 in the talent that's in this locker room. I think we're one of the best teams out there and have been. Last, before I go back to your phones, Josh Redick asked about whether or not he should apologize the Dodgers and the Yankees.
Starting point is 01:27:29 If you need to reach out to friends or opponents that play for the Dodgers and the Yankees, teams that you guys beat en route to that championship, I don't think so. Don't feel like we should. I feel like we should. Yeah, is he going to call Kenley Janssen saying, Kenley?
Starting point is 01:27:50 My bad. No. Should he? No. Is he going to go to that guy with a really frothy red beard? What's that guy a dude's name for the Dodgers? Justin Turner? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:02 Is he going to say, J.T., let me take something. First of all, your beard is magnificent. Second, we're sorry. No, nor should he. You know why he's not? Because let me tell you something. J.T. That's what I call him.
Starting point is 01:28:16 He does have a great beard, though. It is. It's full. It's wavy. It's not like it's like gross and got food particles and it's a, it's a wavy beard. I think they hold a flock of birds. Yeah. JT's like, man, that's cool because guess what?
Starting point is 01:28:29 We probably did some stuff too. That's why everybody's got to be very careful because the Major League Baseball really wanted to open this bad boy up. Did it be a bunch of other teams involved in this as well? Yeah. Did you notice that? That most everybody that's coming up. come out and they're one apologies or saying this and that, especially from other teams. It's mostly pitchers.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Charlie Morton? Who's the hitter from another team who's come out and said the Astros are just out of control for this and they need to apologize or anything? It's been more of like suspicious stuff from Chatman or pitchers. I think other hitters know that some of this was going on and to some respect other places. So I haven't really seen a whole lot of hitters from other teams come out. That's a great point. Why don't we go to a little Google search?
Starting point is 01:29:10 of position player says Astros suck. I mean, what did Aaron Judge have to say about any of this? Did he come out and say something? Gary Sanchez said you can rip off my whole Has J.D. Martinez said a word about this yet? J.D. Martinez said he didn't let him hit
Starting point is 01:29:26 or something like that, right? Is Mookie Betts in Dodger camp today commenting on this? It's pretty quiet. Pretty quiet. Doug is in downtown to Matt Thomas show at 2.11. Hi, Doug.
Starting point is 01:29:40 Hey guys, I think we're overthinking this. If the Astros want to put this behind them, then you go kick some ass this year, right? Just beat up on some teams, win 100 games, and then put it behind this. A, and B, the only game I'm really interesting going to this year is the one where Mike fires pitches in Minut and May Park. I'll listen to your comments. Take care. Thank you, Doug. He's not pitching here this year. I've already called him a shot. Ain't happening.
Starting point is 01:30:03 We'll see. Let's make a small bet on it. What do you want to bet? Hot dogs. See, but I don't know how we can bet that. Because if he's like out with Forearm Stiffna, if you're going to say it's my fault. No, why?
Starting point is 01:30:14 Because he's injured. Then why would I lose if he gets hurt? I'll give you, I'll give you odds. No, because, I mean, what if, and what if the rotation doesn't time, he's not going to play? See, then it's too much against me. I'll give you triple odds.
Starting point is 01:30:28 I need, I need definitive. I need them to say. You want parameters. Yeah, I need them to say, Mike Fires is not pitching because we think it's going to be insane. They're never going to say that. Okay. Well, okay.
Starting point is 01:30:41 And then if you pitch, what do I get? They're going to make sure that the return and rotation is altered so that Mike Fires never pitches here. I'll give you four to one odds. I don't want odds. Yeah, you do. Take the bet. Somebody take the bet with me. I'll give you four to one on.
Starting point is 01:30:55 I think he's going to pick four to one on this. I think if he is available and if he's in the rotation and it aligns up that he's going to pitch. Yeah, I think he's going to pitch too. No chance. Nata. Somebody bet me. wouldn't he? Why wouldn't he? Because it's going to be the biggest blank storm
Starting point is 01:31:13 in a regular season, baseball game ever. What's going to happen? There are going to be things thrown in him. People are going to throw things at him? Absolutely. Astro fans don't throw things at him. Astro fans, you're going to throw things at him. Is that a bobblehead night?
Starting point is 01:31:26 That's a good question. You're going to rip off the head of whatever bobblehead they have and throw it up. We're going to figure out where he would be in the rotation. Okay. And then we're going to, we can't time it out because injuries happen and all that type of stuff. One of the Astros and A's play for the first time. If it's the first weekend of the series, first week, if two weeks the year, we can figure it out.
Starting point is 01:31:44 We're not looking at May. If my fire's in the rotation and the Astros and A's play each other in Houston at some point in month of April, we can figure it out. They can figure it out. For sure, we can do that. Houston's official sports cliche translator.
Starting point is 01:32:00 I'm working hard. I'm trying to be a good teammate. I'm trying to go out here every day and do my job. Matt Thomas. Taking it one day at a time. All right. Ross and I talk during the break. It's late April before the A's come here.
Starting point is 01:32:15 They'll be here once in April, once in May. I'm assuming they come for a third time. We should play nine or ten games on the road every year. So let's do this. Let's make this a simple parameter. As long as he's not on the disabled list, that clears out the bet. If he had pitched the night before and there was no alteration in the rotation.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Okay. Meaning the previous series in and bump a guy up or a gump. I mean, we have to absolutely look at this and go, the A's are trying to decide this. I mean, they're trying to move the schedule around. I call for an independent arbitrator. I nominate Adam Wexler. Can we make that a surprise replica ring night? That's some good AMO right there.
Starting point is 01:33:02 Do you throw it at him? Yeah. Okay. What is why I'm not going to give rings away from the championship three years ago. Call Wexler. See if he'll do this. Is he down the hall? Is he down the hall?
Starting point is 01:33:13 Find out if he's down the hall, Nick. Let me go look. Go look, and we'll see if he'll still do. We've got a guy in the line that's a talk show host in Washington, D.C. that wants to chime in on this. John Frederick's is the name. John is with us here on the Matt Thomas show. John, good afternoon.
Starting point is 01:33:26 How are things? Hey, Matt, thanks for having me. I'm in Washington, D.C. Love your show. Thank you. I'm listening to it right now while I'm preparing for tomorrow. But I'm a 55-year Astro fan. I haven't missed a.
Starting point is 01:33:39 box score since they, since 1965. You know, this whole thing is outrageous. The press conference today, perfect press conference. What did you want Crane to do? They're not going to, they apologize for doing it, move on to play baseball. All the
Starting point is 01:33:55 nonsense going on social media. Look, here's the bottom line. We have been made fun of by writers, fans, other clubs, Matt, for 60 years straight. That franchise has been mocked. by everybody. Finally, they win a World Series, and now they're trying to tarnish it because
Starting point is 01:34:15 some guys banged on a garbage can. Matt, they've been stealing signs of baseball for a hundred years. What about the Red Sox? I haven't heard anything about them. They didn't lose anything. No huffing at all. Draft picks, whole bit. Haven't heard of work. And about cheating, Matt, the New York Yankees, Matt, they cheat every day. There's no salary. I told agree. We stole our pitcher for $325 million. They cheat every single day. We get screwed.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Yeah, John, I couldn't have said it better myself. You're going to lead us off of your show on this exact topic today? Yeah, well, I'm on at 6 a.m. Eastern Time, Monday or Friday, I'm going to send you an email, and I'm going to lead with this. Perfect. It was a perfect press conference. You know what we need to do, like your other caller said, go play baseball, kick everybody's butt, win the thing over, and then they'll be whining again about something else.
Starting point is 01:35:13 Can I just say what? Just let me say one other things. 2005, right? We had a, we had won 20 more games at home when you close the roof, right? Chicago comes to town. What does MLB do? They say you have to keep open the roof. We had a 20-game better record at home with a close, and they make us open it up.
Starting point is 01:35:37 Is that cheating? Matt, give me a break. All right, my friend. Thank you. Nice hearing your voice. Good luck with your show. John Frederick's calling for us from Washington, D.C. on the aforementioned John Frederick show. All right, I like that. I like other talk show host. When's Jim Rome calling in here? When's a calling on during Radio Row? You know what you should have on?
Starting point is 01:35:56 Who? Speaking of talk shows, it's Adam Wexler. Adam Wexler is here. From the A team. Just calling in from down the hall. You are the arbiter in our bet on Mike Fires. What are we going to bet, by the way? What are the parameters of the bet? You should probably not let me know what's on the line before I make my decision.
Starting point is 01:36:11 We'll just do dinner and we'll include you in either way. There's no decision to make. You're going to be judged throughout the season. So Matt thinks that Mike fires is there a 0% chance he pitches in Houston the entire season. I say, okay, I want to bet that. I'll bet you that he does. But if he misses a spot in the rotation or if he's legitimately hurt and he doesn't pitch, I feel like I shouldn't lose the bet.
Starting point is 01:36:33 So you're basically saying if Oakland intentionally reall alters their rotation, sits him when he's supposed to pitch. Yes, then I lose. Yeah. And you think that's what they're going to do, Matt? Yes. For the entire season. But he's going to travel with the team to Houston, yes?
Starting point is 01:36:47 Don't know. And he's going to play catch. Hey, hey, hey, hey, no action killing. We're making a bet here. Wax knows I'm right. What's the bet? Ross says he's going to pitch here. Yes.
Starting point is 01:36:58 At least one time. Okay. So I know who side of him. If as long as he, as long as there are natural, natural causes. is basically. So when he misses, if he does, you're the arbiter to say, yes, this is a plausible reason why, or this is complete foo either trying to. You will be the final judgment. It's three trips through Houston. Yes. So the possibility exists. Very great. April, May and July. If he was healthy, it'd be hard for him to miss. Is there a caveat about just pitching or does he have to start the game or does he just have to appear? Pitch at all. He has to walk on the mound and throw a pitch. He has to throw a pitch. Okay. I know whose side I'm on. Who side do you want? The side of the table I'm sitting on. No, no, that's fine.
Starting point is 01:37:40 You're just judging. We have to make the parameters of the bet. Okay. And throughout the season, you're going to be the judge. Is this legitimate? Gotcha. I'm with you. It's this reason.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Or if he pitches, I win. It's over. Yeah, simple. So what's the bet, Matt? Dinner. Okay. I still owe you a steak dinner, by the way. Because here's a thing.
Starting point is 01:37:56 The percentages are well in your category. No, they're not. Yeah, they are because he comes three times. You say zero percent chance. So that percentage, that should be in your favor. You think that they're going to keep him on. So how's it in my favor? I'm adding a human element to it.
Starting point is 01:38:08 You literally just... You have stats on your side. You literally just offered me like four to one odds. I did, but you didn't take it. No, because I want even as long as the reasons are legitimate. If they were the Minnesota Twins and only came to town once here, it would be, who X would be on my side? Right. I think you're taking his side because there's three trips and that would be overly scheduling, fixing, if you will.
Starting point is 01:38:35 So yeah, you're the one that's saying he's not going to pitch. I'm saying he's going to. Okay. So we'll bet dinner. I still owe you one, by the way. I think this is outside the parameters of explaining my position. But what's the downside for Mike fires hopping on the hill at MinuteMade Park, Matt? Matt says people are going to throw things at him.
Starting point is 01:38:51 From the stands, people are going to throw things at him. Or when he comes back to the dugout, which then... Anything. They have netting. It's a huge, massive net. People can still throw things. Completely protected. The bet's on, right?
Starting point is 01:39:03 I saw people in the third. third deck at Peco Park throwing crap to Barry Bonds on the field. It can happen. Baseball is going to be thrown. Baseball? Yeah. Have you met America? I hope he wears a helmet out there.
Starting point is 01:39:15 Those replica rings will fit through that net. Mm, good point. Or over. I mean, yeah, I basically think you're under the assumption that he just simply won't attend the game. He won't be there. He won't walk out on the field. He won't get loose before a game. He won't talk to his...
Starting point is 01:39:30 He doesn't want to go to the bullpen. Why would you want to go to the bullpen? I'm just saying this is what, like, Charlie Morton came to town. obviously he's loved in everything. Correct. But he just went through a norm. He wasn't pitching the whole series. And there he is out on the field, working out with his teammates,
Starting point is 01:39:41 hanging out with his guys. Obviously, in his case, talking with Astros. That's what visiting teams do. All the players on the team, regardless of they're going to pitch or not, are on the field at some point. Here's going to, here's my perfect world. He conveniently, the rotation skips in one time, and then he's on the disabled list twice. One with shoulder fatigue, and then one will be a hamstring. If he's on the disabled list, then I don't lose the best.
Starting point is 01:40:04 bet. The bether's no better. I'm just telling you, though, that they'll probably have pine-tard fingers. It's 15. It's 15 days. They bumped it up, back up to 15 days. They can't do a little 10 days. A lot of people, because of what's going on, kind of glossed over some of these rule changes. None significant, but I thought that was interesting. I mean, the Astros
Starting point is 01:40:20 were tired of them. They were tired of them. That was Jeff Linoe rule, basically. They were gaming the system. I'm just saying, I'm ready to tell you that Mike Fires not pitching a single. Whether it be hurt, whether it be skipping a rotation, whether it be, I'm a Frady Cat, or whether they asterist said you probably shouldn't go out there. I think Bob Melvin answers that question when he's
Starting point is 01:40:38 clearly done what you're suggesting. Bob, obviously it was Mike Fier's turn of the rotation tomorrow night. That's ridiculous. I don't want you talking about it. He's got a shoulder inflammation. Well, then why isn't he on the DL? Why is this the first one heard of it? Because it's 15 days and we think we're going to have him back in five to seven. Wow. This guy's
Starting point is 01:40:54 managerial ready. I can't ask you a question that normally you would ask me sometimes late in your show? How do you think the show's going today? It's amazing. Fantastic. Wonderful. We had Nick Duturo on. I was listening. It was outstanding. It's like your friends. Yeah. Now, the question should be, should we call L.A.? Besides the fact you lie to him. Yeah, but who's your L.A. person? Who's your Nick Tatoro out on the other post?
Starting point is 01:41:16 Well, Nick Dutero was in L.A., so he's got both bases covered. Who do I know famous in Los Angeles? Nick Tudorro's brother? I mean, you were just on Radio Row. I'm sure you bumped at rubbed elbows with somebody. I wasn't there. No, I mean, every year you go through this. You're in L.A. three times a year with the rockets. It is fine, but it ain't home. Colin Cowherd? Colin Cowher. Colin Cowher. We could call Tui. Yeah, you could call to him. But Colin Coward doesn't claim L.A. I don't care what he has to say about anything.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Oh, I'll be looking forward to whoever that might turn out to me. So you're the arbiter then. I'm in for that. So when Mike doesn't pitch, you'll be the judge. You'll be like, okay, that makes sense. He's legitimately hurt or you will say, yeah, Matt's right. Guy's skipping for a reason. Gotcha.
Starting point is 01:41:54 And we'll pay the dinner, even though I'm still, we're already backlogged, Matt. Yeah, we're back on. I keep trying to pay. Well, we're going to Lake Charles soon. You'll buy the dinner home. I'm in. All right. What are you got on your show today?
Starting point is 01:42:03 Obviously, we'll also take a trip out to West Palm Beach. We'll hear from Chris Gordy, who's been out there covering all this for us brilliantly. Wow. Since this all unfolded, obviously plenty of sound there. Should have a couple of other guests, possibly from West Palm Beach as well to get a different vantage point on what's going on. All right. Our chance to break it all down. It was apology Thursday.
Starting point is 01:42:24 Everybody's apologizing. By the way, it's not, it's apology for breaking the rules, not cheating. Jim Crane made that very. Oh, it's amazing. I heard you giving the definitions earlier. Because the cheating, cheating means give the trophy back. No, it doesn't. Yeah, if you say we cheated, that's going to be, that opens up a can of war.
Starting point is 01:42:40 Turn to the dictionary here? No, sorry. There's no question. It says breaking the rules. No, breaking the rules is different. We get to keep the trophy. Cheating, you got to hand it back. To act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain advantage, especially in a game or examination.
Starting point is 01:42:53 I.e., hand us a trophy over. Well, the last question asked to Jim Crane was about the sign stealing and the cheating and what are you apologizing for? We're going to deep dive. go way too deep to analyze exactly what Jim Crane was talking about. The most awkward Nooner you'll ever be a part of. This is the Matt Thomas show.
Starting point is 01:43:14 We feel we need to reach out to friends or opponents that play for the Dodgers and these teams that you guys beat en route to that championship. I don't think so. Don't feel like this should. I feel like this should. All right, 234 on the Matt Thomas show.
Starting point is 01:43:41 we take this program to 3 o'clock today. Believe it or not, still being worked on. Matter of fact, we're going to leave Ross alone for the next segment so we can get, believe it or not, ready to go. So it's just, Nick, behave yourself during this short time that you've got a chance to add something to the show. I just want to make sure everyone knows that when they throw their things at Mike fires, whatever those objects are,
Starting point is 01:43:59 all 30,000 of you need to throw at the same time to guarantee you hit them. So you want 30,000 replica rings hitting a major league pitcher at the mound? That would work. Okay. Look, I know the percentages are against me on this. I'm just telling you, I wouldn't put Mike fires through it, at least this year. Unless the Astros said, hey, y'all better be nice to him.
Starting point is 01:44:22 I'm kidding. No, they're not going to say this. Hey, everybody. It's the seventh inning, and we're beating the A's by a score of 8 to 3. And Mike's no longer in their rotation for the A's, but he's like their mop-up guy. Y'all be nice to him when we introduce him. You might be on to something, Matt. We'll wait, you know, three or four years down the road when he's not expecting it.
Starting point is 01:44:41 And then we'll get him. No, he's not pitching. I'm just telling you, I think I don't, I'm not going to back off of this. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and I will say that I'm wrong what I am. But I don't think he's, I don't think he's pitching in this ballpark this season. Nestor, Memorial on the Matt Thomas Shore. Nestor, what do you got today? Hey, guys, I just got a couple things to say. I just get off my chest.
Starting point is 01:45:04 One, being the big one I just been seen on social media, Twitter's just been blowing up about this. And I just want to say how upset and ashamed. I am at the so-called fans here in Houston saying that they're going to boycott the Astros. The Astros are dead to them, et cetera. I look at that team as like an extension of my family. I'm not even from Houston. I'm originally from Columbia,
Starting point is 01:45:23 but I've been living in Houston for 30 years now. And for people to be saying things like that is just horrendous. I mean, your family members, you're with them through the good and the bad. And this is the bad, and we have to support these guys and just seeing this kind of things just make me sick to my stomach. And the secondly, the other thing I want to say is, Usually when schemes or things, you know, come about, illegal things going on, the way it said, you follow the money.
Starting point is 01:45:49 In this case, Beltron, 14, 15, 16, 18, 19, Yankees. Why are they not following this? You follow the money in other situations where there's, you know, within, you know, situations where there's crimes involved. Well, if you want to look at this in the same light, why are you not following this guy and seeing what he has done within the Yankees organization? I do not believe for a second that he just came to Houston for 17, did this scheme, and then left in it.
Starting point is 01:46:15 And that was it. It was the only time that Beltron had ever been involved in this kind of scheme. I mean, what's your take on that? Oh, I think there is smoke other places. I mean, Nestor, that's all the thing I can tell you. I believe that nothing was organically created and started and only put in Houston, Texas. I believe other baseball teams are doing it. In fact, they've got a quote, Nestor, from Beltron saying that the Astros are behind the times when it came to
Starting point is 01:46:39 that. It doesn't mean the Astros weren't fairly punished. It doesn't mean the Astros aren't deserving of the ridicule that they are receiving in the last four or five months. But if anything has been learned from this and all these reports is that maybe Commissioner Manfred's job isn't done, that he's got to go find out what else is happening around baseball the last half dozen years. Yeah, well, I don't think Manfred will be around much longer. I think I give him about a year to max before he's out of the office. But I just want to give my input on Honestly, I'm more upset with the so-called fans in Houston saying that they're just disowning this team. I mean...
Starting point is 01:47:14 But who's saying that? I mean, straighten it out. Most of people that call this radio show, and I get a cross-section of people that are season ticket holders to long-time fans to go to five games. I'm not hearing anybody telling me they're done with the Astros. I mean, there may be one, but that's by no means not even a small minority of what we're talking about. Well, I'm glad it does not happen in the show, but, you know, on Twitter, when I've seen all these, you know, the threads, I just follow Houston sports and I'm seeing it in that light. And it just makes me really upset that that's what it's come down to.
Starting point is 01:47:45 And I just remember all the joy and that's what I reflect on in 17. You know, I wasn't personally impacted by, you know, Harvey. But, you know, I saw all the, you know, the damages around me. You know, we get out, we got out that pretty, pretty well on skates. But just to see people just writing these kind of things about the ashes and about our boys and what they did for the city. I mean, it just makes sense to my somebody. But that's all I got to say, man. y'all guys doing a great job on the show i appreciate what you are doing hey have a great day all right
Starting point is 01:48:11 don't be a stranger my friend thanks nestor for joining the program that was good stuff right there i mean if you were to take every astro fan that was considered at least a lukewarm to die hard there might be two percent that's like screw this i would have to say a hundred percent of astro fans are pissed off at what happened and aren't upset but i would put the category of i'm never going to watch them play a game at a i mean a Really, really, really, really small number. Really, really, really small number. 713-212-5-790.
Starting point is 01:48:45 So you reach our show, 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. Let's go next to John in Boko or Tau. We're going to be down in Boker-R-R-Tan next week. John, what's going on? How's it going, guys? Good. I'm happy to be on the show. Really enjoy listening to you guys.
Starting point is 01:49:01 Thank you. Thank you. All right. So I did want to talk about the Sheenings scandal. I'm a die-hard Yankee fan. And before I get into that, I did want to talk about the guy John that was on before who had a talk show host. Regarding, he said it wasn't cheating with the trash cans. And I agree to that.
Starting point is 01:49:23 I don't think banging the trash cans were cheating, but when you have a technology coming from your center field bullpen that you only have access to, I feel like that's unfair. Would you guys agree? Yeah, no. There is. this is a cheating scandal, not a misunderstood scandal. This is a cheating scandal. I'm not going to hide that. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:49:45 So I just wanted to make it clear. I wanted you guys thoughts on that. And I also wanted to get your guys' thoughts on this. How stressful and displeasureing is this season going to be for the Astros players, playing against all these MLB teams that are pretty much out to get them right now. It might be the worst season someone has to go through since, I mean, I think the 19, the season after the 1919 Black Sox. I mean, I don't even know how that went, but they're probably going to be getting thrown
Starting point is 01:50:13 at every game. No, you know why that's not going to happen? It's because majorly baseball is going to come down on anybody that plays the Astero and says, if you start doing this every single game because you're mad, you're going to face serious suspension. So I would disagree with that. It might happen once or twice, but by no means, will this be a regular event? This is, no.
Starting point is 01:50:33 You can't, majorly baseball is not going to allow the Astros to become battering. Rams everywhere they go. Not going to happen. Do you guys think it's going to happen in the first couple series for sure? No. No? No, because the umpires are going to be worn. The last thing anybody wants for a baseball team, especially early in the year when they think
Starting point is 01:50:53 they got a chance to win some ball games is have a player suspended, a pitcher suspended, a catcher suspended. No, I think it sounds very video game, very much retaliatory. Hey, this sounds good. But once you get in the white lines, start playing the game, this should be forgotten. Let the fans boo and do their bet and call them what they want to call them. Let these baseball players play a regular game of baseball.
Starting point is 01:51:14 Gotcha. This is my own opinion. This is my own opinion. I could be wrong. Yeah. Okay. No, I respect that. I'm actually really excited for the season.
Starting point is 01:51:21 I mean, I know that friends that I have that aren't even into baseball are going to be, you know, honed in on this Astro scandal. So I think, you know, obviously it is a bad thing for the sport. But I think in the long run, this could be a good thing with this with the new playoff pitcher. I think it could be a good thing as far as it comes to ratings. All right. Thanks for the phone call, my friend. I appreciate it. Good hearing from you at Boca Raton. Great place.
Starting point is 01:51:44 Ross, you should take some people out, you know, in Boca Raton. Good place to eat. I'll see what I can do. Nice things. Straight from the rat's mouth. That's Boca Raton. Is that what they call it? That's what the Spanish translates to. Boca Raton is one of the most expensive cities to live in. So, obviously, John's of Well Means. Yeah, you've got to be rich to live in the rat's mouth.
Starting point is 01:52:06 And see, I'll let you have a time to talk in this segment, too. You've been to Boca Rat's Town. You wouldn't call it the rat's mouth. I'm just telling that right now. Well, it's part of Florida. That's true. Not Florida stories can't come from there, unfortunately. Back to play, believe it or not, next.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Cougars coach Kelvin Sampson here. You're listening to the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 790. Time is 248. We've got, we have time to take one or two phone calls for, believe it or not. We'll do it really quickly. Let's go to, in terms of the longest wait, in downtown on 7-90. Hi, Ronnie.
Starting point is 01:52:50 Hi. If the whole world has lost their mind, if you Google, is it illegal to steal signs in Major League Baseball? It comes back. There's no rule against it. I did it 30 minutes ago.
Starting point is 01:53:05 Did it a month ago. There's no rule against it. If Major League Baseball is so upset, why don't they make it illegal? How can they fire people and ruin their reputation? I hate to ruin your narrative. When they didn't do anything illegal. I hate to ruin your narrative.
Starting point is 01:53:20 Ronnie, Commissioner Manfred sent out an email to all the baseball teams and said, do not use artificial intelligence in order to gain it. Electronic equipment. Electronic equipment. I call it artificial intelligence. Whatever. Any sort of electronic equipment to gain it. It was right after the Apple Watch mess with the Red Sox.
Starting point is 01:53:37 And he said, do not use this or you will be punished more severely than the teams we just punished. And the Astros kept on with it. Hello? That's what I get for listening to Google. Yeah, Google sucks sometimes. Google's great. It's not officially in the rule book. It's kind of more vague in the rule book.
Starting point is 01:53:57 But he... Yeah, you go ahead. You googly and says there's no rule against it. But it is considered unethical and frowned upon when people do it. Yeah. But that's not... That's right. There's a difference between being unethical and being illegal.
Starting point is 01:54:12 And the tactics after the release of the Apple Watch incident with the Red Sox said, do not use electronic devices to gain a competitive advantage. Or we're going to come after you. And the aster's for the first one to do it. And they did. Really fast. Randley in Jersey Village on 790. Hi, Ranley. Hello.
Starting point is 01:54:29 Hi. I had to turn my radio down real quick. That's okay. I just wanted to ask three topics. Weren't Yankees and Red Sox in 2017, after 2017, fine for using, what would you say, artificial intelligence? And then on top of that, I do respect the Boston organization, but then they come out and apologize for what they did. They tried to get an edge, just like the Astros.
Starting point is 01:54:56 And they came out, and they won another World Championship. So I agree with that organization. I mean, we've already apologized. I don't agree with keep apologizing, asking players apologize. And then John McLean, he came out and called Jim Crane a name. Blatently out of the radio. I don't know if you heard it. No, never heard it.
Starting point is 01:55:14 I do it. Okay. Why would I, I mean, I like John, but why would I care with John McLean called Jim Crane somebody? I just wanted to see if you agree with them or not. Nah, not even bring it up. Thank you for the phone call. Five minutes left to go on the show.
Starting point is 01:55:31 What should we do? We should believe it or not. Here it comes. Three, two, one, five, four, four, three, two, two, and one. Believe it or not. Wait a second. There it is. Let's play America's.
Starting point is 01:55:53 Fastest growing sports game show, we simply called it. Believe it or not, and here's how it works. You'll call 713212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-7-90. Today's edition of Believe it or Not is brought to you by Houston Woodhouse Spaws. Burn out your gift card for the gift of relaxation, the Houston Woodhouse Spas.com. The category today on today's edition of Believe or not is Buzz Aldrin? Or is the famous buzzes? Buzzers or Buzzards.
Starting point is 01:56:20 Anything with a buzz? Yes. Is there a buzzer question in there? Who's that? He's a wrestler in the 70s and 80s? No, I should have asked you. I should have consulted you. You want to make one up real quick.
Starting point is 01:56:29 You can. All right, I'll try to think about on top of my head. I'll read you statement about a famous buzz. Statement is completely utterly accurate. You'll say this. Believe it. Erroneous full of bunk and made up. You will say this.
Starting point is 01:56:40 Two, believe it or not, it's on famous buzzes. It won your prize. Rocks. What's the prize? I got a pair of tickets to see Brooks and Dunn, Travis Tritt, and Tucker Bethard. At June 6th, the Williams, Brilliant, Information and Tickets at Live Nation. All right, let's play. Let's go with line three.
Starting point is 01:56:58 Dwayne, how are you, Dwayne? Hey, I haven't been witnesses from Bill. I'm trying to Wayne today. I'm doing great. This is a homemade one. I just thought of it just a minute ago. Buzz Sawyer, famous in the NWA, the 1980s, is a two-time NWA world champion. Two-time, believe it or not.
Starting point is 01:57:16 Oh, you did it? Believe it. No, I'm ended up. By Dwayne slash Bill. Yeah, whatever you're calling yourself. Todd on 790, ready to play, believe it or not? Believe it. Buzz Aldrin is alive.
Starting point is 01:57:31 Believe it or not? Not. Yeah, he is. 90 years old. I'm sure the Aldrin family not happy with you, not knowing that. Mr. Aldrin, if you listen. Absolute favorites. Thank you for listening.
Starting point is 01:57:43 Josh on 790, ready to play, believe it or not? Believe it. Buzz Aldrin's given name was Edwin. He was a nickname Buzzer because his little sister called him that instead of brother. Believe it. not. Believe it. Believe it. There you go.
Starting point is 01:57:58 Statement number two for the win. The website BuzzFeed was originally known as Feed Magazine. Believe it or not. Not. That is correct. Congratulations. Damn it. Line two.
Starting point is 01:58:11 Kevin on 790. Kevin, you ready to play, believe it or not? Yes, sir. BuzzFeed was purchased by Verizon Media back in 2016. And the original owner, Jonah Peretti, was named the CEO. Believe it or not. No, it's not unbelievable, though. Very factual.
Starting point is 01:58:31 Names gave a year. Cameron on 790, Cameron, you were your favorite part of the radio show today? Oh, just where you talked about sports? That was my favorite. The sports part? Yeah, I love the sports part too. The Disney character Buzz Lightyear was originally called Lunar Larry. Believe it or not?
Starting point is 01:58:51 Not. Believe it. That was, we were talking about that. in the non-sports part of our sports show. We broke it down for a full segment. Full segment there. Javier on 790. Javier, you ready to play, believe it or not?
Starting point is 01:59:03 Ready. The cartoon series Buzz Lightyear Star Command aired on the UPN network but was canceled after only two seasons. Believe it or not? Believe it. Believe it. If I said it, one, said it thousand times,
Starting point is 01:59:17 you've got to know what the UPN broadcast schedule was like and how long shows lasted. Let's go to line number four. Tito on 790. Tito, you ready to play, believe it or not? I'm ready. The buzzer network on cable television features an extensive library of classic game shows 24 hours a day. Believe it or not.
Starting point is 01:59:36 Believe it. I love buzzard. They show old match game and tattletails if you like those shows. Statement number two for the win. In the United States, the bird most commonly referred to as a buzzard, is actually a turkey vulture. Believe it or not. Believe it. Believe it.
Starting point is 01:59:53 You got a nice job. You got to know your turkey. It's an information about it. And we're done, right? Finito. Yeah, what do you mean? Tomorrow, I was supposed to be off. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:03 But I decided, you know what? The show must go on. They need you, Matt. So I will join you from Durham, North Carolina, where I'll be breaking down the Notre Dame Duke game like a mother tomorrow. I don't think we will be. Probably not. More on this.
Starting point is 02:00:15 Anything goes Friday. We'll check it with Gordy from Florida. We'll get Brian T. Smith in from Florida as well. And do you want to do a fantasy five tomorrow? Back when you're on location. We'll get back next week. Okay, we'll do that. A team is up next for Nick.
Starting point is 02:00:29 For Ross, I'm Matt. Have a great day. I will talk to you guys tomorrow from North Carolina. Adam and Adam. We're up next on 790.

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