The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - The Matt Thomas Show: Problems With MLB In Arizona, Dane Brugler, Hank Aaron Anniversary

Episode Date: April 8, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Much larger than life. Yeah. Lunch timers. This is the Matt Thomas show. Double three in H-town. What's happening at lunchtimers? Good afternoon to you. And welcome to a Wednesday edition of the Matt Thomas show.
Starting point is 00:00:31 I'm not doing that for dramedy. I'm doing it. Nobody ever knows what day it is. I know what day it is. That makes you everyone. Okay. And I mean that with all sincerity. I'm Matt.
Starting point is 00:00:41 He's Ross. Hi, Matt. Hi, guys. I hope you all are in a as good a mood as possibly can be expected. That's not a good sign. Sorry,
Starting point is 00:00:50 I was into my elbow. I tried to turn my microphone off. No, you didn't. But that's okay. The elbow move was nice. It was into my elbow. If we were on CSN Houston or, or what are they call it, AT&T,
Starting point is 00:00:59 we would have seen the elbow cough. Maybe we should zoom the shows. I think people were zoomed out. By the way, somebody told me that Zoom is getting infiltrated with various amounts of racist and pornography material. Yes. The Astros had one, and then a bunch of Yankees fans found out and started saying the N-word and putting porn.
Starting point is 00:01:23 There was a NHL young prospect, I think, with a Rangers, who is African-American, and that got infiltrated. They were doing like a meet-and-gritty, like, hey, meet the young guy. This is fun. Yeah, it's terrible. And then somebody was pumping up the inward in that one. So Zoom's not going great for everybody. So Zoom, you got to be careful.
Starting point is 00:01:42 We did our Monday night meeting with Zoom. Yes, we did. Do we need to add some extra passwords that we're looking to do? I don't think so. No, I think as long as we just have the link, it's fine. Okay. And there's only a few of us. I mean, we're a small scale.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Yeah, that's why I want to keep it five to six people. Yeah, see, that's what I wonder too, Matt. Say you have a lady friend and you're each quarantined. I mean, if you just want to have a little intimate chat with her, can you do it via Zoom? Just use FaceTime, right? That's true. Make it a little simpler that way. Okay, so we have people infiltrating Zoom accounts,
Starting point is 00:02:13 and then we have people that are using mask and gloves, and then dropping them off on the street in front of the grocery store which they're going to. What do you mean? They're taking them off and throwing them in the front. I don't get it. On the ground. That's not good.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Instead of how people don't put their carts away, they're just dropping their gloves. Oh, my God. So now all those workers are being forced to pick them up. So unfortunately, if you were to go to your local grocery store, there's more than a 50-50 chance that there's a glove or a mask on the ground. I literally saw, I had to go get dog food before this, and I saw them on the ground. How many do you see? I think only like two or three, but.
Starting point is 00:02:49 But that's two or three too many. I agree. Yeah, that's nuts. People are terrible. Well, we knew that before that. And that's people showing their true colors now is no surprise. Yeah. And the problem is if we get to another level of cabin fever, then it's only going to get worse.
Starting point is 00:03:04 All right, let's start. Let's start about something else. Yeah, Matt. Come on, thanks. Thanks for bringing us down. Major League Baseball could be in Arizona. Discuss, Matt. No, see, I can't do that.
Starting point is 00:03:12 You can't segue to that because what I'm going to give you on that news is not good news. Oh, why not? By the way, I'll tell you what I did do. What did you do? I've been recording all these hard work classics on the NBA TV channel. Yes, me too. Because some of them I'm intrigued by, some of them I'm not. So I just kind of pick and choose what I want to choose.
Starting point is 00:03:29 There were two Mike Dan Tony ones on there today. Oh, really? Italian League, him going off for 40 or something? No, it was Phoenix versus. versus the LA Lakers in 2006 when he was a coach of the Sons. In the playoffs? In the playoffs? Is that the year they came back from 3-1?
Starting point is 00:03:42 They beat the Los Angeles Lakers. Shack either was hurt or another team at the time. Oh, God. But it was a shackless Laker team. Oh, no, by six, he was gone. Okay. Six is when they won the championship with Dwayne Wade. Oh, so he was well gone from the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Yeah. Okay. So, and congratulations to Coach Dan Tony for winning that. And then the next one I watched was in 2010. it was the Knicks at the Timberwolves in a nondescript, very early regular season game. 2010, Knicks T. Wolves? Can you find out, Joe, what was so special about that game? Nick's Wolves, it had had been maybe the 10th game of the season,
Starting point is 00:04:23 because the Knicks in the game were, oh, no, the wolves in the game were 2 and 7. Maybe Mello went off for 50 or something? No, Mello was not on the floor. Maybe Kevin Love went off for 50? Yeah, that's very possible. Oh, here we go. Kevin Love, 31 points, 31 boards. Is that right? Maybe it was his 30-30 game.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Okay, that's got to be it. But that was on there. The best part of that is... Michael Beasley, 35 points in that game. Oh, nice. Michael Beasley, who I thought was going to be better than Derek Rose. Wrong. Yeah, I was wrong.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Who else was in that draft that year? I don't remember. I just remember, I was like, how can you not take Michael Beasley, number one? Would you rather have Michael Beasley, Malik Beasley, or Mrs. a Beasley? You know Mrs. Beasley? No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:05:08 If anybody could tell my friends here on the show. Probably from some 70s sitcom. Go before that. 50s. Does anybody complete, anybody that's old? Green Acres. Tweet Matt to At Sports NT. Russell Westbrook in that draft.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Ooh. So top five were Rose, Beasley, OJ Mayo, Russell Westbrook, Kevin Love. That's a decent top five. Eric Gordon's in there, Brooke Lopez. EG for three. EG for three. All right. If anybody knows who.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Mrs. Beasley is. I will be a turn. I'll give you a Twitter mention for that. I don't miss Jackson. Yeah. I'm sorry to her. Is there concert still going to happen? No. Are any concerts going to happen? Okay. So the point being is this, so I'm watching back-to-back Dan Tony games with two different teams, separated by four years. He's rocking that stash. Now, and he also had the salt and pepper hair at the time. It's full gray now. It's full gray. It's fine. But I think he looks significantly better without the Mustang. Okay. Who can rock a mustache in the year 2020, and it looks good. Hmm. I mean, didn't Baker Mayfield kind of have a stash thing going on?
Starting point is 00:06:19 That doesn't look good, though. Who's the best wearing stash? By the way, ATX Hobo Girl comes in with its, a family affair. It was the doll on family affair. Oh, is that right? Mrs. Beasley. I'll take your word for it. The doll was married? No, the doll was just a doll. It was just a doll of one of the kids. Mrs. Beasley. Where's Mr? She didn't have that. You run away? I want to see if Dan will help us out with this.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Family affair was a show. It was about a single father. I think the mother died. And she and they had, the father had two kids and a house, a housekeeper. And this sounds like different strokes, but it's not. It was just,
Starting point is 00:07:00 it was a way earlier version. And the two kids were Jody and Buffy. The vampire slayer. Jody was a redhead. Buffy was this really adorable blonde who wound up in real life killing herself over a drug overdose. Well, I've given us a really opening.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Thanks, Matt. Fantastic, sir. Can I, can I add? Anybody shoot their dog recently? 7-13-21-2-5-7-90. Is there anything else I can possibly add in the first segment of the show to bring people down?
Starting point is 00:07:28 Good God. All right, let me see if Dan. Dan, you remember Mrs. Beasley, don't you? Yeah, Mrs. Beasley was Buffy's little doll on family affair. And he was their uncle. Their parents, I believe, died. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Uncle Bill. That's right. I forgot about that. There was Sissy, Buffy, and Jody. And Buffy died. Sissy and Jody are still alive, correct? I'm thinking? Yeah, yeah, Sissy.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Yeah, but Sissy and Jody. Jody actually grew up to be Tom Sawyer. Oh, all right. Very good. Thank you. Thank you, Dan. Thank you, Dan, thank you, Dan, bringing the info on the show. Yeah. There's no other radio show in the marketplace. It's going to give you a family affair
Starting point is 00:08:09 information like this one. We had people killing themselves and dying and playing crashes. Great conversation. And, oh, here's what we'll do. We'll go to a brighter note in the second segment of the show. Wonderful. Where we will discuss, we discuss a lot about yesterday, about, well, could Major League Baseball start the season off and have 30 teams in Arizona? What is your, what do you think the reaction was among players around Major League Baseball yesterday when they heard this? It gets how hot in Arizona? That's true. That's one of the things.
Starting point is 00:08:38 You have to do a 6 a.m. 5 p.m. split or something. 5 p.m. Oh, hell no. 7 p.m. 8 p.m. 9.30 p.m. which would be if you're playing east. Good morning. It's 1230 here. Here are the East Coast. Time for Yankees baseball. Speaking of baseball, there is a Mets broadcast team that threw shade on the Astros. There's a shock. Now you heard the audio, Joe. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:03 How big of a shade? How shady is it? 1 to 10. I don't think it's shade. It's more of a direct comments of the actual's cheating. Okay. And it's honestly, it's bad.
Starting point is 00:09:16 It's not funny. We need to do like, they need, some of these broadcasters and you talk to some comedians and get some like real actual material. We're going to play it for you at the bottom of the hour. That was a real beggar there, Steve. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah. So coming up, some major league baseball players are saying about going to Arizona, bottom of the hour, the Mets broadcasters throwing not shape a direct hit on the Astros. And Dane Brugler from the Athletic on the NFL draft at 1 o'clock today. Plus, Tom Brady spoke to, of all people, Howard Stern. Interesting that he would go there.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Apparently, he drops a few potty words in the... I think when you go on Howard Stern, you have to say some swear words, right? Yeah, what's wrong with that? I saw people reacting about that on Twitter. I'm like, who cares? No, come on. Be adults. We all swear. probably some of us more these days than others.
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Starting point is 00:11:56 Let's go Rockets. This is the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 790. So tomorrow night is the hashtag lighted blue movement to support the men and women in the front lines of the COVID pandemic. Minute Made Park, City Hall, Georgia R. Brown, the bridge is over 59, along with BBVA Compass, NRG Stadium, Rice Stadium, Recling Park, TDUCU Stadium, and the TOTA Center will all turn their LED signage on Blue from 8 to 9 p.m. tomorrow night. This ought to be pretty cool to look at. many of the facilities will feature messages of thanks on their video screens and teams and organizations across the city will be making social media posts using the hashtag light it blue and hashtag make it blue Okay. You're going to give some money on top of that? That I don't know. I'm just telling I just, we're receiving a couple of releases on that.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Lighting it up is nice, but let's do a little more, I'd say. New York, Seattle, Boston, Kansas City, New Orleans, many other cities involved in Thursday Night's campaign, which is expected to include hundreds of majors of sports, entertainment, and civic venues across the country. Yeah. So again, instead of just passing along. I don't necessarily know if there's anything to it. except it'll just be kind of cool the city will, again, you're rallying point, but man, we are far from rallying, but at least it's a nice sign.
Starting point is 00:13:26 I mean, and it's really about taking care of those and appreciating those people that are working in hospitals and clinics to, I mean, in a very, very tumultuous time. So that's tomorrow night, 8 o'clock until 9. Hashtag light it blue, hashtag make it blue. Feels like every sports stadium in America
Starting point is 00:13:43 will have this at least for an hour. That's between 8 and 9 o'clock tomorrow. All right, 713, 2-1-25-7-90, 7-1-3-21-25-79. If you want to get in on the conversation, it is the Matt Thomas show. Yesterday, we spent quite a bit of time talking about Major League Baseball's plans,
Starting point is 00:14:01 very tentative plans, to try to play a season, or at least a part of a season, in Arizona. You have 10 spring training facilities. You have Chase Field, which is a dome stadium. And then I even thought about, maybe you would have Arizona State and Grand Canyon University would have Major League-esque type dimensions that you could play games there if you wanted to.
Starting point is 00:14:26 So in theory, you've got about 13 different places to go. It doesn't rain a whole lot there. But the problem is if you started a season, say, May 15th, May 20th, or even as late as June 1st, the weather gods are going to get you, meaning the average temperature is about 198 degrees. Chris Sale, who, by the way, will not pitch in 2020, whether or not they have, have a season or not because he has had Tommy John was asked yesterday about whether or not it would be a good idea to have all of majorly baseball in the Phoenix area for a prolonged period of time. Quote, I don't know if I could look at my kids just through a screen for four or five months.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Same thing goes for my wife. That's a long time. But people have done it in harsh scenarios, I guess. I think there's a lot of figuring out to do. That's probably the sentiment by a lot of those athletes. going to miss my kids. I'm going to miss my wife. Being brutally honest, that's what people in the military say. I'm going to miss my wife. I'm going to miss my kids. If Major League Baseball puts this together, which again, I think we're still probably very undecided on how this is going to work,
Starting point is 00:15:40 if they want to get paid, you know, there's going to be some like, there's going to be some difficult situations they're going to have to adhere to. I don't know if Major League Baseball is going to, you know, look, we're always going to feel sorry for something because it's not an easy scenario. And we understand the empathy he's going to have because of the fact that he's not going to be able to see his family and kids. I'm talking about just any player. But you can't have your cake, you know, you can't, what's the cliche phrase? Have your cake and eat it to? Is that what it is?
Starting point is 00:16:09 Correct. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. Yeah, it's got to be one of the other. Yeah, either you say, we don't play this year and you don't pay me, and I can live with that because I want to be close to my kids or my wife. or you're going to say, you know what, this sucks. This isn't going to be fun, but we need money, and we're going to go do this. It's going to be hard to necessarily get 100% on that because there's a lot of single guys, Ross, that play Major League Baseball.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Yeah. And they're not going to care. Well, they're not going to want to be sequestered for four and a half months. They're telling you that, too. But like if it's like the NFL when they had their CBA vote, there was a majority in a minority. If the MLB Players Association, if the majority is single, then the married guys might not have a choice. It'll be, I wonder, I don't even know if it'll be down those lines. It'll be interesting just to see how this plays out.
Starting point is 00:17:08 But I mean, fact of matter is something is going to have to be sacrificed. Something is going to have to be given up. There's no, there's no perfect solution to this process. unfortunately. The perfect solution is the virus just disappearing and everybody being okay and no new tests and no new cases sometime within like the next week. That's just not going to happen. That's not a reality. So they're going to have to give up something. You're going to have to maybe do this scenario in Arizona and in hope sooner rather than later and before the end of the season that you get the all clear and everybody can go home or you're just not going to play
Starting point is 00:17:39 games. You can't play them virtually. You can't play them apart from each other. So you're going to have to all get together and make some sacrifices or there's just not going to games. That's just how it has to be. I think if it's what Joe is saying, if it's a 50.1 to 49.9, they're going to do it. Major League Baseball's not going to put, I don't even know, does Major League
Starting point is 00:17:59 Baseball even put this to a vote? If Major League Baseball deems the scenario and again, no one's saying it they're ready to say yes, 30 teams in Arizona is the right thing to do. No one's been able to prove that without a doubt. Testing and having this bubble, no one's, no one knows
Starting point is 00:18:15 if that's accurate or not, if that's not going to cause problems. If at some point the next 30 to 45 days, somebody from the CDC says, okay, you guys can do this, either you show up or you don't get paid. There's no, there's no. The union will have to agree. You can't just change the entire rules of that. You can't change anything in the league without the league and the players union agreeing to it. That goes for, I mean, basically any rule change has to go through both of them.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Right? If you're changing the structure of the season, if you're, the major league, let's say this was there was no virus. And Major League Baseball says, hey, guys, you're 100 games and we're going to do this and this. They couldn't just do that. They'd have to do it with the union. So anything that happens, the union is going to have to somewhat agree to it. But the Major League, but what the Players Association is going to say is, all right, do we take a vote on this? I think you have to. At least from the player representation, one guy from each team.
Starting point is 00:19:13 You would limit it down just to 30 votes? No, at minimum, you'd have to do it. Yeah, I think so. I mean, yeah, I don't know how they would do it, but if there's a team representative and they have the vote of the team, I don't, that doesn't bother me either. Yeah, I'm fine with that. If they did it that way, if it's George Springer, if he speaks for the Astros on any other issues. Well, it's a lot of power.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Do we know who their union rep is? You should be calling me. It was calling. Yeah, he's gone. I don't know. That's a good question. Not that it matters, I guess. Yeah, my thought, and now that I'm thinking about this a little bit out loud,
Starting point is 00:19:43 is that it'd have to probably do a group, go to this website, vote. Because this is, it is such a different scenario. It is so out of the, out of the ordinary. And again, single players, well, they're going to have girlfriends. It's not like there's, I would have, I mean, they're going to be missed, they're going missing somebody. Girlfriends, mistresses, groupies.
Starting point is 00:20:03 You don't want to be out of that game for four and a half months, Matt. Yeah, if you're out of, you know, you can't wait for somebody outside the stadium at 1030 when no one's there. Yeah, married guys already used to not having any. All right. Other things they're thinking about. First of all, they're worried about the temperatures. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Temperatures average a high of 105 in Phoenix in June. Is that bad? The thermometer just starts to dip it. They say 5 o'clock. Okay, there you go. When presumably many games would be in the prime time on the East Coast. Now, obviously, Chase Field has a retractable roof. You don't worry about that.
Starting point is 00:20:38 But you could play three to four games there. By the way, Chase Field used to have a grass field now that they've gone to the field turf. field turf that NRG has. So you wouldn't have a field that would be beat up per se. That's good. That helps out. Expanded their rosters, one of the things we talked about yesterday. Given the heat, a compacted schedule, active rosters could be expanded from 26 with teams isolated in the status of minor league.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Uncertain extra players could be kept in the group. I mean, you'd want to be fairly liberal on that. You'd want to have 32 players or at least 30, right? Maybe even more, 35. What's the, I mean, what's three? I guess here's the thing. If you went to 40, that'd be 14 players times 30 teams. It'd be an extra 420 players, right?
Starting point is 00:21:24 Okay. So that's 1,200 players. Total. If you did 40-man rosters. Yeah. If you did 26, were you at there a little over 1,000? 780. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:37 That's why I have you on the show. I have the calculator. All right. Also, we forgot the grounds crew yesterday when we were putting together on the room. We did forget the ground screw. You can do your own grounds crew like in the softball tournament. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Is, RL-Tuv, is he going to have to hit the end deal with a rake? Hey, let me tell you this. High-end Division I programs have they do their own grounds. There you go. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Next, money. How much would it cost to put teams and the personnel that travel with the teams in hotels for double the usual time? Think about this. Everybody's playing a road game. What is the cost of a hotel
Starting point is 00:22:12 for each team to put 40 people in a room. And again, they're not staying at the comfort in or the PI. Well, they might have to if they're not all available. Phoenix is a huge convention. How many five stars they got down there? Well, the problem is you don't want, how spread out do you want to be?
Starting point is 00:22:30 That's another thing. You might be at the courtyard, Mary. Yeah, that's fine. So, you know, okay, next, would the 15 spring training tenant teams in Arizona always get the home clubhouses? would they have an advantage from playing in the ballparks during the exhibition season? Now, I mean, if you're arguing about the semantics if you're in the home dugout or the road dugout because the clubhouse is bigger, you know what you got to do? You know what you got to switch them?
Starting point is 00:22:59 You're going to have to dress at your hotel like the college players do. But get into full spikes at the holiday end? I can tell you this. When I was doing Rice baseball games in the late 90s, the guys would dress. at the hotel. We would go over in a bunch of vans, play the game, and then we would go to Denny's or something else,
Starting point is 00:23:21 and the guys are in uniforms, eating. Maybe you go back, maybe you throw it back, Ross. Maybe you go back old school a little bit. A few other things. Testing. That's the number one thing, guys, right? Testing.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Yeah, that's probably the most important thing. Players, team staff in ballpark, transportation, hotel personnel would have to be tested. And here's the thing, frequently. Just because you test once in mid-May, doesn't mean you couldn't come up
Starting point is 00:23:43 with something in July 1st. And how do you handle that at that point? If somebody inside the bubble gets it for some reason, because we don't know exactly what it is, then are you compromising every player that's played on that field? Are you compromising that clubhouse? You compromise that hotel. Few other things. What is the rule if a player's wife is giving birth or he has a sick parent, spouse, or child?
Starting point is 00:24:07 Would he be allowed to leave? If so, would he be quarantined upon his return? I would say yes. Well, if immediate testing's available Wouldn't he just have to pass? Do you test him when he comes back, then wait him, made him make him wait like a week or something
Starting point is 00:24:23 and then test him again. Yeah. Three other things. Robots! What? Would the automatic ball strike system be tested in the minor leagues replace home plate umpires, calling pitches?
Starting point is 00:24:34 Because the amount of social distance between a catcher and a home plate umpire is what? Zero inches? Yeah, but it's the same as a catcher and a batter. What are you going to do? We're going to move the catcher behind. You're going to move the catcher back six feet?
Starting point is 00:24:47 He's got to catch bouncers all game. There is some parts of baseball that you can't social distance from. Al-Tubey, base hit to right field. He makes it turn it first, heads back to first base where he gets to say hello to some, you know. Aaron Judge, or Miguel Cabrera, whatever. I'm not Aaron Judge. He's an outfielder. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:25:04 You know what I'm saying? I mean, you can't social distance that. You can't give him an automatic six-foot lead. How about this? spring training facilities are not wired for video replay. No video replay. So we are going back to trusting the umpires. I'm okay with that.
Starting point is 00:25:23 We did that for 100 years. It was faulty. No, no, no, no. Nick, I mean, Nick, Joe, I don't want you saying I'm okay with that. We are a pro-instant replays radio show. That other show you might work on maybe not, but I am pro replay. I'm okay if it's temporary. It is, but it is.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Yeah, you have to make sacrifices, Matt. Yep. it's the reality of it is you know because again if you're starting to put more people in you're adding to your video crew you're adding to your production crew and lastly would you play three game series or would you play somebody different every single day because again doesn't really matter if you're sharing the stadium with 10 you know with five or six other teams you could play the reds on monday and then tuesday you play the marlins and then wednesday you could play the angels how do you how do you configure
Starting point is 00:26:11 a 30-game schedule knowing that maybe you keep, you know, because they're spread out, maybe you play more of the teams in your complex and you would play in the other complex. A lot to work out. Not a lot, Ross, I'm telling you, it may be too much.
Starting point is 00:26:29 I said that yesterday. You know, what you imagine is you may take the 10 brightest minds in baseball and shut the door and, well, you're going to keep them by social distancing. Jeff Luno? Is he going to go save this? And then you have to,
Starting point is 00:26:40 you have a Zoom without porn. And then you have to go through every possible scenario. And then when you think you're done, you go to sleep and you go, anybody having any ideas? Let's Zoom meeting tomorrow again. You have to come up with every possible thing that can go wrong. You probably will go wrong. And you have to figure out what solution. Because do you put all the American League West teams in one facility?
Starting point is 00:27:01 Do you put all the American League teams in one? I mean, when do you, that's why these commissioners and these heads of sports leagues probably are making the kind of, I mean, this is where Adele's going to make his money, right? This is where Rob Manfred and Adam Silver are going to make their cash because they're trying to get a sport going with, first of all, incredible unknowns. And second, I don't even know as much as we as sports guys are missing this. I feel like every single day guys, maybe all agree or disagree, the presence of sports is becoming less and less vital to the rebuilding of our society. I need it back. It's vital to me.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I know, but I mean, I really miss it. But I need my local hardware store to open up again. I need for all of our great sponsors to feel confident that they can put their products out and know that people are going to call and buy their stuff. I'd love for the sports to return. I really would. But, man, I'm thinking if you're going to put the priority get together, I mean, spending a lot of time on this.
Starting point is 00:28:13 and again, one coronavirus positive case could add to this. Eish. All right, we have to for the next half hour do something positive. Oh, what we're going to do at the bottom of the hour here? What were we going to do? Play something, weren't we? The Mets Broadcasters. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:32 That's not positive, but that's okay. But, I mean, we can, let's just crush him if it's bad. And you think it's pretty bad, huh? It's just bleh. Let's crush Mets broadcasting next. 1234 on the Matt Thomas show with a message here for the Shell, Federal Credit Union. Hey, their branches are closed for obvious reasons, but their online services are outstanding. And if you need any sort of financial support, clearly a lot of us do these days,
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Starting point is 00:30:03 He is an NFL drab guru. You ever notice when you have draft people on, you always give them a title, whether they deserve it or not? I mean, you never go, hey, joining us at 1.30 today, NFL Draft Blowhard, or NFL doesn't know his head from his ass expert,
Starting point is 00:30:22 so-called expert. You always... Well, you wouldn't have him on if you didn't know his head from his ass. But wouldn't be fun to have somebody that you would just be like, this guy sucks. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:30:31 Like, would Dame Bruegler ever come on this show and say, you know, I'm thinking the Texans might go sneaking and go with a quarterback in the second round because they may think Deshawn may be thinking about being, we may trade Deshawn in 2021 to the New England Patriots.
Starting point is 00:30:43 No, he didn't, mad, because on this show, we book smart credentialed guests who know what they're talking about. Yeah, that's why Dame Bruegler's on in 20 minutes because he would not say something as crazy and half-cocked of Deshauner. John Watson being traded after the 2020 season. Because that's never going to happen because we don't,
Starting point is 00:31:02 the Texans don't trade their elite players. They could. All right. New York Mets broadcasters. I think Keith Hernandez is one of them. Okay. Ron Darling is one of them. And I forgot the play-by-play guy's a name.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Gary Cohen. Gary Cohen. So, Joe, explain where this video came from so we can put it in proper context if you don't mind. So they were doing a MLB, the show, the video game for the PS4, um, live stream of the Mets playing the Astros and,
Starting point is 00:31:40 uh, Gary Cohn, Keith Hernandez, and Ron Darling were calling the game like it was a normal baseball game. And let's hear it. Right now. Brantley was always bummed in spring training or what we had to spring training this year because they fans kept booing him. He wasn't there when they were supposedly cheating. Well, you know what
Starting point is 00:32:02 comes to mind is you can hear very little from the crowd tonight. It almost feels like you're playing in the library, which would mean that any sound that might be emanating from the dugouts say the sound of a trash can being banged would be quite formidable. That's under the glove of DeGromen into center field and Bradley's got to lead off it. Yeah, I think that would definitely raise a red flag gear God, what a wretched attempt. So bad.
Starting point is 00:32:38 And honestly, I think it's just going to get worse. Dumb Astros joke of the day. We'll be able to make them. Every day, there'll be something. Well, once we get playing, whenever that is. Yeah, once real baseball starts, every day. It's basically going to be like the mentions of every O.J. Simpson tweet has something
Starting point is 00:32:59 like stabbing, killing, knifing, sharping glove. Everyone wants to make those jokes in OJ's mentions. Not only are we. And now every Astro thing is going to be trash can, banging, and cheating and signaling and technology and buzzers. Let's reverse us a little bit.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Why don't you go to Ad Astros? Okay. See what they tweeted. Oh, no. It's probably going to be... Get the music ready, Joe George. And let's find out exactly. If they're getting ratioed on anything they have to say.
Starting point is 00:33:32 First of all, explain what the very latest tweet is from the Astros Twitter account. Well, let's go with their pin tweet. It says, Houston, we're in this together. See you soon. That was from March 25th. All right, which was about a week ago. Or actually more like two weeks ago. Well, they got a thousand retweets and only 100 replies, so that's not that much of a ratio.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Okay. Let's see. Astros are still 0-1 against Harvey. That's not very nice. Nice. Talking about the cheating together. I'm sorry, talking about the cheating, right? Let's see.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Typos are embarrassing. I think you meant Houston. We cheated together. Good effort, though. I'm just going to go through a mute every single one of these people. Muted. You're muted. Thanks, Matt.
Starting point is 00:34:18 You're allowing me to mute all these people. All right, next. Who will win the World Series? And it's a poll from an Astros fan. Astros all four answers. It's funny. And then the next one says, the camera will and it's a giff of a camera
Starting point is 00:34:31 go ahead and mute that guy um stand together cheat together even the cheating it's important you all not cheat cheaters three bangs when the virus is over one when it's still time to stay inside
Starting point is 00:34:49 that's hilarious so funny um so not only does coronavirus kick out some of these guys aren't even trying they're just saying cheaters yeah so there's really nothing very interesting. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I mean, these people, this guy's from this guy is from Wisconsin. He's a Packers, badgers, Brewers,
Starting point is 00:35:07 and Bucks fan. He takes the time to come to the Astros Twitter, type in Cheaters and hit Send. You should give the trophy back.
Starting point is 00:35:20 So we've delayed the season. We've delayed the daily assault on the Astros. It's, well, this is from a
Starting point is 00:35:28 couple days ago. But you know, you know what? You know what's going to go through for the first time ever as a Houston sports fan.
Starting point is 00:35:34 We're going to be we, because we live in Houston, we're part of the Astros. We're going to have a team in our town that is the most hated in its sport. Everybody hates the Yankees, right? But they're also the most popular.
Starting point is 00:35:47 We have two in Houston, most hated. Do you think the Rockets are the most hated team in the NBA? Who's more hated than them right now? Golden State. Nobody cares a crap about Golden State right now? I'm not counting the last six months. I'm talking about it in the last five. I'm talking about right now.
Starting point is 00:36:01 You think right this second. Right now. Houston Rockets are the most hated team. Yes. Maybe the Lakers? Yeah, because as much as LeBron has loved is also despise as well. People hate James Hardin. People hate Russell Westbrook.
Starting point is 00:36:19 People hate Daryl Morey. I don't think anybody cares about anybody. I don't know if I go to a bar in Chicago and say, why do you hit the Rockets? I don't think Darrymoy comes up right away. I think a lot of people in basketball hate Daryl Morey. Yeah, but I'm not talking about in basketball. Who follow basketball?
Starting point is 00:36:34 I don't know. It's hard to hate a general manager and you, have you hated before? I've never I'm talking about other people who hate them you're gonna tell me people don't hate across the country they're if if I pick one general manager that people don't like it's probably Darryl Morey because they just don't like the...
Starting point is 00:36:50 Yeah, because he's probably the most recognizable. Yeah. Yeah, the tweet. Probably people didn't like that. The China thing? Yeah. Well, actually he probably got more positive response but he got more negative
Starting point is 00:37:01 from the business side of the world than the sheer number of pen. Did anybody say that was the worst thing I've ever saw my entire life? They were like, the NBA is like, stop doing it because you're costing his money. I don't know. Again, look, Darrell's obviously way more known than the Orlando magic. Just saying, right. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Now, I'll say this. There is hard and hate for sure. There is Russ hate. There you go. Houston Rockets. I want to think about this for a minute. Okay. Think about it.
Starting point is 00:37:30 You may be right. Do you have time to think about it? We do it. We'll be back in two minutes to tell you how much we hate there. Supposedly somebody else hates them. 713, 21, 2, 2, 5.790. 713. 212.5.7.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Oh, the most hated general manager in this city is Bill O'Brien. Oh, in this city. I'm talking about nationally. Well, I think what he did three or four weeks ago probably puts him in that verified air too. The problem is of the Houston, Texas, you know, guys? Nobody cares about the Houston. No, they're not hated. Talking about the rockets. That's just nuts. All right. 713-1-2-5-7.
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Starting point is 00:39:20 The Buccaneers went with this radical change, and radical is really tongue-in-cheek. They went back to looking like normal NFL uniforms instead of these big bombastic, fond of numbers. It looked like a terrible video game. And then the Atlanta Falcons are changing our uniforms back to black uniforms. All these teams are doing multiple combinations because, let's face it, they can sell it. You make more combos. You sell more combos, Matt, simple mathematics. They both look good, so go look in your various Twitter accounts,
Starting point is 00:39:49 and you can also go on Google and hit it and just put Atlanta Falcons and uniforms. They all look great. The Atlanta ones say ATL on the front as well instead of Atlanta. You know, it's funny. The Texans uniforms are going to have also new letter and cross-front. Oh, boy. What do you got? BLB.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Because he owns them. But do you remember when the Texans change their gear? they put that. Last year. Was it last year? Yeah, it was last year. When they put the logo on the back behind their neck? Big breaking news that the Texans were changing, making changes to their uniform.
Starting point is 00:40:27 And they put Toro above the name on the back of the jersey. And that was the uniform change. That was the change. Are you sure wasn't anything else? There was nothing else. Maybe the red striping or something. 100% comfort. Maybe the number was changed.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Maybe the letters changed. Nothing. Maybe there's a different shade of deep steel blue. Nothing. No changes. I mean, you can't get any deeper than deep steel blue, Matt. Deeper. Deepest steel blue.
Starting point is 00:40:50 The deepest ever. That was it. Okay. So here we go on today's edition of Walk Me Through this. You ready? Okay. So you're like, hey, we want to put the Texans logo on the back of the jersey. Is there anything else we should do?
Starting point is 00:41:05 No, I think we're good. Then how big of a deal should this be? Should we make videos about this? Should we put a release out? Should we, I mean, Should we put out a fresh batch of uniforms with this logo because it's all of a sudden going to spike sales? I think what happened was someone broke the news that there was uniform changes. And then I think everyone was expecting a real change and then that's all it was.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Like it was, we thought the way it was presented as breaking news that it was a real story and it was just... So it was the media's fault. I would say it's the media's fault. I think the person was told that the uniform was changing. and that's what they said. So the Texans, you don't think, hyped it up themselves. I don't think so. I don't remember them doing that.
Starting point is 00:41:54 You couldn't imagine them saying, a change is necessary, you know, having the job is in a voice. Change is necessary. Well, this is what they tweeted. The logo represents our team. The logo represents our spirit. It's on our helmet.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Now it's on our back. So they did try to push it. I mean, just put a little tweet out. I got ratio two. go ahead, run through those. This is old school ratios. What do you got? One is an Adam Clinton Giff saying, but why?
Starting point is 00:42:27 It's love this team, but this is a bad look. Time to bring back the powder blue. Sit down with the Titans and make a deal. You know what? I may have an unpopular stance on this. The Texans don't get the Columbia Blue. They don't. No.
Starting point is 00:42:43 That's the Oilers. Bring back the Oilers. Yeah, if you want to flop franchises again, if you want to send the Texans to Nashville and call them the Tennessee Tennesseans, then they can have them. What if they were the Tennessee Tennesseans? What a lame name.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Think of every other team that could have done that and sounds lame. The Tennessee Tennesseans. No, they'd be the Nashville Tennesseans. The New Yorkers? That'd be a lot of words. People have a hard time to spelling with a Tennysonian. T-E-N-N-E-A. Okay, no.
Starting point is 00:43:14 I used to have to learn to spell it when I was checking. up on Vince Young News. Aw. At the Tennessean. That's why the name of the newspapers. But yeah, I mean, I know that JJ Watt has said in the past, bring the Columbia. No, you don't get them. They're my oilers.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Now, granted, they gave me a lot of pain the last 10 years of their life. It was a lot of pain. But I still, I mean, obviously biased. Those are the best uniforms ever. I love the Columbia blue. It's just my favorite. The blue tops. The oil derrick, yes.
Starting point is 00:43:46 white pants. Yes. With the Derek. With the red, red stripes. I will, I get into rabbit holes all the time because I'm kind of tired of watching news. So I get into YouTube rabbit holes.
Starting point is 00:43:56 I'll watch a Monday night football game from 1975, a young Evan Bethay. And the elders would have the Columbia blue helmets, too. Mm. With that blue pants and the white, and the blue tops and the white pants. I mean, that was some bad football. That was young Dan Pastorini days.
Starting point is 00:44:10 That was pre-Earl Campbell. But yeah, you know, no, I don't want anybody ever wearing Columbia Blue that, especially from football side. You know, it'd be cool if the Astros put a Columbia Blue out uniform. Just going to say, hey, we remember y'all. Rockets wearing Columbia Blue.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I'd be off of that for one or two games. I mean, to me, the obvious one is if you ever get Edmonton to give up their hockey team, bring it to Houston, just bring the Oilers down here and roll out the baby blues for the hockey team. Now, are you a hockey guy? I am, but it would never work in Houston. I agree with you on that. Edmonton, they need a new arena, right? Yeah, I think they do. But they've needed a new arena forever and that hasn't really changed.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Yeah, there's only like two or three options for if they were going to be a relocation because it won't be expansion. That's not happening. No, the NHO can't do that, right? They just expanded and they're expanding again this year. That's right. Seattle's going to do it. Yep, their draft is in 2020, I think. And they have a dumb-ass name, correct?
Starting point is 00:45:06 The Crackens? Yep, I was right. Dumb-ass name. So it had to be relocation for. it to happen. And Eminton, the NHO needs Edmonton. It just does. It's going to be Phoenix, if anything. The Houston Coyotes. They change it. To what? The arrows. You think so? No, probably not. But they should. No, here's the thing. I don't think anybody, I think, frankly, right now, Tim and Fratio probably can't afford to buy one at this point of the way things going with his companies. But I could see him, I could see a team coming here, but it wouldn't be owned by the Fratidis. I think he would like to have, he'd like to be the landlord for a team.
Starting point is 00:45:43 I don't see how it could work. Look at how the beginning of a Rockets game looks. That's how an entire hockey game would look. Well, here's the thing. I'm not even necessarily worried about the people in the arena. What's the corporate support about that? You know, go to a series of car dealerships and say, hey, spend millions of dollars putting your name against, what do they call the walls? What do they call the walls in a rink?
Starting point is 00:46:07 The rink? Yeah, the rink walls, whatever they're called. The rink walls. Let's go with that. I don't know. That doesn't sound right. I don't know. has a name for. Dasherboards? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:46:16 that sounds right. Yeah. That's where I think they'd have a lot of trouble because you'd have a lot of hesitancy saying we already spent a lot of money on the Texans and the rockets and the a asterer's. I don't know if, I mean, could Goward of Furniture want to put a half million dollars down to put a dash or board with Gellerer furniture on it? I mean, you may get some eyes
Starting point is 00:46:31 on it, but how many eyes you're going to get? And frankly, you're probably going to get more eyes than the other team because the other team's broadcasting. It probably has a larger hockey following. Again, I don't mean to get NHL to Houston guys mad at me, but especially until we get this thing over with. I'm not that it's on the horizon, but I just don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:49 I don't know if you could fill up 18,000 seats. I don't even know if Toyota Center is a great place for a hockey game to begin with. And then on top of that, the corporate dollars, I think it would be the biggest problem. 1258. Let's get some NFL draft conversation. We'll do that next with Dane Brugler from the Athletic. He'll join us after I tell you about TGS Insurance. Hey, if you're looking, all of the people that are still with us right now,
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Starting point is 00:48:33 Stay safe. Stay home. And you know what you could do? You need some good reading. You need some good information. Then I would go to Dane Bruegler, NFL draft analyst for the athletic. And you can go to his Twitter account at DP. Bruegler and find out more information about his 2020 NFL draft guide.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And to talk about that is the aforementioned Dane Bruegler. Dane, it's Matt and Ross. Thanks for spending some time with us. How are you holding up these days with you and your family? Well, I appreciate you asking. Times are different, obviously. And, you know, I think we're, you know, hanging in there and doing better than some people are. So we're thankful for that.
Starting point is 00:49:12 And, you know, I'm just, I don't mean to make light of it, but I usually quarantine myself in the month of March anyway to, you know, to, you know, you know, to finish this draft guide. So I'm happy it's out there. The feedback's been awesome. And it's been great to, you know, talk with people about everything. So it's hopefully, you know, in this tough time, something like this draft guide can give something for people to look forward to
Starting point is 00:49:36 since the draft will be really the only show in town in terms of the sports world here coming up in two weeks. Well, I do subscribe to the athletic. And if those of you listening to us do do so, you can download a Dane's NFL draft guide right off the athletic. website. Before we get to some of the names and obviously some Houston Texans references, Dan, in your mind, how is the thing
Starting point is 00:49:57 going to work in three in two weeks? I mean, envision us what the Thursday, Friday, Saturday is going to be like for us as TV connoisseurs and watching every moment of this draft. What do you envision this being like? It's going to be fascinating because we're all kind of going to learn about this at the same time. And, you know, we've heard some
Starting point is 00:50:14 coaches voice their concerns about technology issues, hacking issues, and I think it's all relevant. And I think when you think about these guys being in the building at the team facilities, you know, they have firewalls and things protect that. But with all these general managers and scouting directors and scouts and owners, you know, being at their own homes, I can just picture a scouting director, you know, banging on the wall, those 13-year-old daughter saying, get off Netflix, you're using the band.
Starting point is 00:50:46 You know, just trying to conserve Internet resources. It's just, it's kind of craziness how this is all going to play out. And you do wonder, you know, I'm sure we're going to see some teams take over the time that's allotted. And, you know, they talked about using a timeout system where if they're trying to work a trade or they were caught off guard by something, you know, we're going to see teams maybe take longer than they need. And, you know, I think the NFL will be accommodating to that given the circumstances. But, you know, I think above all, we're going to see, you know, the teams that are well run and that are organized. They're going to crush it. You know, the Patriots, the Ravens, the Seahawks, the teams that traditionally do well when it comes to drafting in their process,
Starting point is 00:51:31 I think they're going to do really well with this new format, whereas maybe some of the teams that have a first-year general manager or a first-year front office, it might be a little bit more of a struggle in terms of communication. and working together. And so it's really going to be a fascinating development to see it all play out. Talking with Dane Brugler of the Athletic here on the Matt Thomas show. Dane, let's just go ahead and pivot to the draft here.
Starting point is 00:51:58 First of all, we'll keep it general. This year, and as you know, of course, every single year is different in the draft. What do you think? Just go over a couple of your thoughts over, maybe just by position groups. The relative strengths, I know wide receiver is thought of the strength and there are some quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:52:13 what are some of the position groups where there's not as much talent in years past or where there's a wealth of talent compares to years past? And it starts with wide receiver. You know, we talk about this class like it's, you know, had the chance to be historic. And it does in terms of the receivers that are going to come off the board early in the first round. Your Jerry Judy's, your C.D. Lambs, Henry Ruggs, Jefferson from LSU. I think Denzel Mims has worked himself into that first round conversation. But the drop-off, there is no drop-off in terms of, you know, being a top-heavy group and then it, you know, falling off for a little bit. We're going to see a lot of receivers off the board, first round, second round, third round, all the way through the draft.
Starting point is 00:52:58 That's going to be a consistent trend. And it's just, you know, you figure there's only 32 teams. Each team, say each team drafts a line bat or it drafts a wide receiver. That's 32 wide receivers. There's probably closer to 40 more than that draftable receipts. receivers in this group. So there's going to be some talent at the position that goes undrafted. I think Corner is a position where there's a pretty good depth. Jeff Okuda from Ohio State, Texas Native. He's going to be off the board early,
Starting point is 00:53:26 top five, top seven. C.J. Henderson from Florida is kind of separated himself as that number two corner. And then after that, there's plenty of talent from Jeff Gladney at TCU, A.J. Peril at Clemson, Jalen Johnson, Utah. So, and I think that is a trend that continues. Linebacker is a sneaky good group. So I think when you look at those positions, that's the strength. And when you look at maybe some positions that are lacking in a few areas, tight end certainly, you know, come to mind first.
Starting point is 00:53:56 We might not see a tight end drafted in the top 50 picks, which hasn't happened in a long time. So that is a possibility. I think defensive tackle, there are certain spots where it's strong. I think what Derek Brown, Javon Kinlaw at the top, those are two very strong players. And then there's it gets a little thin. You know, I think Ross Blacklock from TCU, Jordan Elliott, Missouri, Matabuque from A&M. There are some pretty good players, but it's not as deep.
Starting point is 00:54:25 It thinned out a little bit. The same could be said for offensive tackle. We're going to see maybe seven offensive tackles come off the board in the first round. Those guys are going to fly off the board. But then there's going to be a steep drop-off. It's a very top-heavy group this year at offensive tackle. It's well represented in the first round. but then we might not see, we might see one, maybe two, second, third round.
Starting point is 00:54:46 So it's just going to be a big drop off after we see so many in the first. All right, the 64,000 hour question, Dane, is at number 40 with you talking about how deep their wide receiving core is. Do you envision a guy being there that can step in right away, not put up the numbers of DeAndre Hopkins, but could actively see a lot of playing time right away? Is it that deep of a wide receiver group? I think so. I mean, you can find an impact player there. And, you know, it'll be interesting to see who's left for them in that, at that spot at number 40. you know, C.D. Lamb, Jerry, Judy, Henry Ruggs, those guys will be off the board. Jefferson, I think, will be off the board. Brandon I.U. from Arizona State, I don't think he'll be there. And then Denzel Mims, I think he'll be gone as well. So that's six receivers right there. And then they might have, you know, their choice of that next group, which, you know, Leviska-Shanalt from Colorado, if you're comfortable with his medicals, I think that'd be a great fit with what he can do after the catch. I think Michael Pittman from USC would make sense. He is a power forward down the field. The way he can attack the football makes sense.
Starting point is 00:55:53 T. Higgins doesn't have necessarily that play strength, that power at the catch point. But his wingspan, his ability to go up in high point, he could be a fit maybe later on in that second round. But the guy that I keep coming back to, Jalen Rager from TCU, you know, a Texas kid who is explosive. He can make plays before and after the catch. He can help out on special teams. Jalen Regger is a guy that I keep coming back to as someone. The Texans know how much of an impact Will Fuller makes when he's on the field. Adding some more speed on offense like Jalen Rager would certainly make sense.
Starting point is 00:56:34 And obviously you're not necessarily in the mind of a Bill O'Brien, but do you think that the trade of DeAndreuxon in the wide receiver group and how deep and talented it is? Do you think there's a connection there? I mean, I would hope so. You know, you would hope that you would, that's something that went into the decision. Obviously, I think this is a decision that was made with a lot of factors involved, with, you know, contract situation, with the player and his relationship with the coach, and, you know, just getting maximum value that they thought they could.
Starting point is 00:57:06 There's so many variables, but I would think that wide receiver, as strong as it is in this draft, would certainly be one of them, you know, with the, you have the start quarterback. You've invested more and more in the offensive line, but you still need targets. You still need playmakers to get the ball to. And, you know, I think that this draft has that. And, you know, even without having that first round pick, you know, if we see five, six receivers going the first round, we're still going to see five or six come off the board in the second round. And then there will still be talent on date, or in the third round, if they wanted to maybe hold off.
Starting point is 00:57:41 They could still get a receiver of 57 if they wanted to instead. Or even if they waited until 9. It's a possibility. So I would hope that that was a factor in their decision to make that move. Right or wrong, I think it was a factor. Dane Bruegler, NFL draft analyst for the Athletic. If you go and subscribe to the Athletic, you can download his 2020 NFL draft guide. Dane, we're obviously concerned as well about the secondary size-up cornerbacks,
Starting point is 00:58:06 true cover corners in this year's draft. And with a second, second round pick that the Texans have with that trade, could that be a spot where the Texans could find some value? Yeah, and I think corner is, I mentioned that as being one of the strength of this draft. And, you know, after Jeff Okuda, after C.J. Henderson, you've got a couple of guys that are going to be there in that second round. So if the Texans did want to go corner in the late second, kind of like they did last year, I think there'd be some names there. Noah Igbenogany from Auburn. He is a lot of traits to work with.
Starting point is 00:58:42 He's a former receiver that they moved over to corner. So still learning position a little bit, but he plays aggressive. He plays tight coverage. He's the son of two Olympic athletes. So I think you see the athleticism there. He's a guy that likes to pester receiver. So I think Igbonogany is a possibility there. Damon Arnett from Ohio State wanted to come out last year, went back to her senior year,
Starting point is 00:59:05 and really developed into a much better player, really good tackler. Didn't test overly well, and that was a little bit of a surprise. But on tape, he does a really nice job downfield, attaching himself to routes and being a guy that can make plays downfield. So that was a little bit of a surprise, but I still think that he's good enough where that could end up being a blessing in disguise for a team like the Texans who, if they look at him in the late second, he could still be available for them there. All right. Lastly, big picture we'll let you go. why did Joe Burrow check all the boxes as he was putting together this amazing campaign at LSU? And then as we've gotten further and further along, there have been question marks. First of all, are there huge question marks in your opinion of him?
Starting point is 00:59:50 And is there any serious threat that Cincinnati could trade the number one pick to say Miami and maybe go get him? Where does Tua take of Aloha comes in there? And obviously, Jalen Hertz, a Houston area kid. Where does the quarterback race come in? But more importantly, first part of the question, where did the – apprehension of Joe Burrow start to come into play, and for what reasons? Well, Joe Burrow, when you watched him last year, you saw a guy that would hold the ball a little too long at times, wasn't playing as confident
Starting point is 01:00:18 as you would like, and I just think it comes back to his comfort within the system. But, you know, that's kind of understandable when you think about a guy that was a transfer in the summer. It took him some time to adjust to a new teammates, new coaching staff, new playbook. But this year, complete 180. The confidence is off the charts, decision making. You just feel so much more comfortable with the added
Starting point is 01:00:42 responsibility that gave him at the line of scrimmage. I mean, Joe Burrow is, he turned himself into the number one overall pick. And look, it's the Bengals. So, you know, you never know. They, you know, march to the beat or their own drum. They keep things tight-knit. They rarely trade.
Starting point is 01:00:57 So I would be very shocked if Joe Burrow is not the number one pick to the Cincinnati Bengals. You know, you just never know because they do things their own way, but it just makes too much sense. They have the needed quarterback. They've got arguably, you know, the guy coming off the best quarterback season we've ever seen in college football, sitting for them right there at number one. I think it makes too much sense for Joe Burrow to be that number one pick. I would be surprised, and everybody throughout the NFL that I've talked to would also be surprised if there is someone else besides Joe Burrow going to Cincinnati at number one.
Starting point is 01:01:30 All right, Dane. What's the biggest shot? knocking move, and I know this is so grandiose because it's 32 teams, but what would really surprise you in day one? Is there a particular player that's moving up the chart or moving down the chart that's startling you right now? And who could bring us some serious drama on day one of the draft, which will be coming up in a week from Thursday? Well, I think the biggest drama is going to be with Tua. And, you know, you mentioned him just a little bit ago, and I think that we, there was always, he was always a wild card because of the durability factor, the medicals. But then you also factor in everything that's been happening with this last month. So we don't have,
Starting point is 01:02:07 you know, the pro days. We don't have a chance for him to travel around the country on these 30 visits, you know, so he could visit different teams and get to know the office of the coordinator more, get to know the quarterback coach more. So teams conducted interviews at the combine, but in the back of their mind, they also planned on the teams that are interested in Tua. They planned on bringing him to the facility to get to know him better. So not having that now, there's a missing piece of the evaluation. So I think where two ends up? That's going to be the biggest question mark because you're talking about the durability factor. Can you trust them to stay healthy for 16 games?
Starting point is 01:02:44 Can you take better care of his body in terms of staying on the field? I mean, there are just so many question marks there. Not every team is very adept to risk. And which team is going to take that chance? To me, that's going to be the biggest drama in the first round. Thursday night two weeks from now. Dane, great visit, as always. Congratulations in your success moving over to the athletic.
Starting point is 01:03:07 It's a great resource for us as sportscasters and more importantly for sports fans. And enjoy the draft. And thanks for spending some time with us. This is afternoon. We really appreciate it. All right, thanks, guys. Take care. You got a Dane Bruegler on Twitter at DP Bruegler joining us here on the Matt Thomas show. Our time is 117.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Darry spoke to the guys in the afternoon yesterday. We'll have that conversation for you at the bottom of the hour. We're going to a little update on what's going on in the NBA. And you are now welcome to join us at 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. The Rockets had Red Nation. Matt has Maddie Nation. Things are going to start happening to me now.
Starting point is 01:03:52 You've made it. I'm somebody now. More Matt Thomas. Now. The bump music getting way more aggressive with Joe George running things for our buddy, Nick Lowe. He's trying to make you do a... a heavy metal growl.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Only Ross does that. But then it ruins you for the rest of the segment, so I'm not going to do a real one. Yeah, it's like if you do Westwood One voice guy. Oh, boy, screwed. So we were, thanks to Dane, good stuff there. Yeah, really good stuff. So I was looking at the draft, the list of the picks.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Uh-huh. Two in the second, one in the third, one in the fourth, one in the fifth, nothing in the sixth, And three in the seventh. Three in the seventh, baby, they're stockpiling. What, you know what that is? That's a smorgasbork of food that you would, okay, if I have to eat it.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Like, when you have a first round pick, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a filet or a ribby, right? I'll go with the strip, personally. Whatever. You know where I'm going with this. You just have to be contrary. I don't know, you know. Okay. The second round is maybe those four shrimp on top.
Starting point is 01:05:08 perhaps some lump crab lump crab okay so we got lump crab yes and then we have another second round pick so we're going to have the shrimp skewer
Starting point is 01:05:19 all right that's good we don't have the steak what's third round pick like some cream spinach perhaps some truffle mac and cheese uh all grottin potatoes sometimes I like those better than even the main dish
Starting point is 01:05:30 okay so so so far write this down everybody we have lump crab meat yes shrimp skewers yes we have um potatoes au gratin fourth round
Starting point is 01:05:44 we have green beans okay I mean I'll eat some green beans it depends on who makes them if Bill O'Brien's making the green beans they don't feel great oh they're straight out of the can
Starting point is 01:05:58 with no salt and pepper or butter don't feel good about it wait do they have a fourth round pick yeah it's a pick number 111 from Miami so says that's I that went to the Cardinal
Starting point is 01:06:08 Oh, it did? Yeah, that's the one they traded with DeAndre Hopkins. So it's the Cardinals pick now. But don't they have the Cardinals pick? Next year. Okay. Wait a minute. No, they had two-fourths, I thought.
Starting point is 01:06:23 No, they sent a 20-24th in exchange for a 2021-fourth. That's what I'm reading. But I think they traded their 2024. Here it is. The Texans own a pair of second-round selections. The Cardinals at 40th, they're on at 57th. They dealt their fourth round to the Cardinals. And we'll get a 2021 fourth round pick.
Starting point is 01:06:42 So, yeah, they still have their third. And they still have... They do not have a fourth. What about the... No, they got a fourth in the Tunsel deal. Yeah. They have a fourth. It's pick 111.
Starting point is 01:06:51 It went... That's the one they sent. The one from Miami, they sent to... I don't know what happened to their other one. Well, I'm going... This is right off the Texans website. Well... I mean, they could be wrong.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Well... This is ruining... Okay, so the green beans. If the... Well, look, it didn't matter. They're good green beans. You double check as I look through it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:12 We do know they have a fifth round pick. Fifth round pick, white rice. Not even broad rice? No. No flavoring. No dirty. No Spanish. You know, plain white rice has a purpose.
Starting point is 01:07:31 It's fine. You got to put a lot of stuff on it. But here's the problem. Bill O'Brien will not let you put any sort of seasoning on it. It's just plain right rice. Okay. So so far. What's a sixth?
Starting point is 01:07:43 Or they don't have a six. They don't have a sixth. That's fine. Here come the three-sevenths. Crackers for your soup. What would be the three-seventh-thron? Melba toast. What? Melba toast.
Starting point is 01:07:56 What is that? That's the cardboard-ish-type toast. Melba toast? Yeah, look it up. I'm not familiar with that. You know what Melba toast is, don't you? How about saltines for your soup? Okay, saltines.
Starting point is 01:08:06 That's fine. Saltings are sneaky good, though. Yeah, but you're not going to eat a meal of saltine. No, but they're sneaky good. Well, seven-round pick could be sneaky good. sneaky good. How many sneaky good
Starting point is 01:08:16 setting ground? A full backlash. Derek Newton was a seventh round pick. He stuck around for a while. Sorry,
Starting point is 01:08:23 Colin. But they drafted a full back last year. Yeah, Colin Galaspia. You get yourself, that's these. Okay, so,
Starting point is 01:08:32 okay, Saltines. Or do you want those, what are those ones you put, those types of crackers, oyster crackers? Oyster crackers
Starting point is 01:08:39 are really good, good in soup. Yeah. But by themselves are not so great. Saltine just has natural saltiness.
Starting point is 01:08:45 A fullback's good with a good running back. That's okay. By himself, not that great. We'll stay with saltines. All right. Then we will go with just lettuce. Oh. No, there's no cucumber.
Starting point is 01:08:58 There's no onion. What about like celery that you get with your wings? Celer and carrots. Would that be a six-round pick or a seven, or is that an undrafted free agent? Priority-free agent. That depends on who you're talking to because, like, my wife, that's a go-to for.
Starting point is 01:09:16 celery when she gets wings. Oh, by the leg, I always eat the celery. Well, 75% of the time. It's also just a glass of water. That's good. Warm glass of water. Oh. Pick 250.
Starting point is 01:09:25 That's the gold glass. No, it's not even at least iced tea? Mm-mm. No, no. Just plain water. And I got one stuff for it. That's terrible. Tap water.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Oh, come on. Or could it be like a... No. That's like... Uncarbonated Coke. You don't go to a restaurant. It's not carbonated. That's a free agent.
Starting point is 01:09:40 So here is the... And so I'm going to run through this, and then I want you to give me the Miami Dolphins. I want you go to the Miami Dolphins draft order, okay? We're going to just compare them, because I think I know where I'm going to go with that. So we have, Joe, you stay with me
Starting point is 01:09:54 and this as he looks at the dolphins. We have lump crab meat. We have a shrimp skewer. Third round pick, we have Ogrotin potatoes. Fourth round pick we have, would we go with the fourth round? I should have written this down. Green beans.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Green beans. Fifth round pick, we had we had saltines, tossed salad and water. Those are the seventh round picks. Oh, fifth round was just rice. Plain white rice. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:26 I would like for you to go through the Miami Dolphins draft order. All right. Miami Dolphins have the number five overall pick. Oh, guys, that's filet mignon, right?
Starting point is 01:10:42 Yes. Go ahead. The number 18 overall pick. Oh, there's the strip. Yeah. The number 26 overall pick. Oh, man. That's the lobster.
Starting point is 01:10:53 That's from the Texans. The number 39 pick. They have four picks before the Texans pick once. So they're going to have filet, lobster, strip, and you're telling me pick 39? Yeah, but they've also been dealing with Ryan Fitzpatrick, and they've been complete dumpster fire. Are they? 30? Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:15 They had a good season this year with a terrible roster. They've got a very, very good coach. What were they? Six and ten? I know. They won six games with a crap roster. And they have a great head coach. That coach was a guy.
Starting point is 01:11:28 I'm sorry, five and eleven. Peter King this morning on the Pat McAfee show said trade four first run draft picks for Joe Burrow. That's what the Dolphins should do. Trade all three of their first and next year's first to get Joe Burrow. That's a lot. That is a lot. Okay, so they have 39. So what's the 30?
Starting point is 01:11:46 If 39, if 40 is lump crab meat, what's 39? 39's lump crab meat. Yeah, same. Okay. What's an extra sauce? Maybe some holidays on it? Okay, continue on, Ross. Perhaps a remelod.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep going. Then they have the number 56, also in the second round. They have so many picks. That's dirty rice. Okay. No, white rice is a fourth rounder. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Dirty is probably a third. They're like a lobster soup How about a red beans and rice? Oh no, cream spinach. Cream spinach? A really good spinet. Or do you want to go with mac and cheese? Truffle mac and cheese?
Starting point is 01:12:20 Truffle mac and cheese. Good call. Okay. Go ahead. Then they have number 70, an early third rounder. That's better than the Texans' third rounder. Correct. So there goes your potato.
Starting point is 01:12:33 That would be like a loaded baked potato. Okay. And they don't have a fourth round pick. Oh, actually, dude, compensatory. So it's a late fourth. round pick, number 141. Okay, that's rice.
Starting point is 01:12:46 And then they have two fifth rounders. No, no, no. They have green beans. They're saute with bacon in them. Okay. Two fifth rounders,
Starting point is 01:12:54 that's rice and just play match potatoes. Three fifth rounders. What the hell? Oh, man. Dolphins are going to be I'm not trying to buy some stock in the dolphins.
Starting point is 01:13:02 The dolphins are getting fat. I think the dolphins are I think the projection is very good for them. And then a sixth rounder. Okay. And then three seventh. Oh, they're going to have, but they're getting bottled water, chilled.
Starting point is 01:13:17 They have like 10 packs or something more. Sexton. Well, they have five in the first two rounds. All right. I hope you all got hungry off of that. One team's going to eat big and one's going to be watching their weight and calories. We're going to go to the phones and talk in here with Darryor Morrow had to tell the boys in the afternoon next about life in the NBA as they try to assemble a season. It's 132 on the Matt Thomas show with a message for oops steam cleaning.
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Starting point is 01:15:03 Darrell Mori was a gas of the A team. You can hear them daily. 3 o'clock until 6 right here on Sports Talk, 790. And we're all just trying to find some optimism about an NBA season to resume. But first things first, Adam and Adam. That's Wexel and Clinton. Had an opportunity to talk to Daryl about the newest member of Basketball's Hall of Fame, Rudy Tom Jonovich.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Oh, man, Rudy making it was amazing. I've especially been impressed with all the things Rudy did with the rockets in the past year to change their mind, you know? The old Hall of Fame jokes. They're so silly. I was like, I mean, the man had Hall of Fame, like, careers in multiple areas. So it's been a surprise. I'm not sure what took so long, but I'm happy he got in. and hopefully I can be at a ceremony in person.
Starting point is 01:15:58 I'm not sure what's going to happen because nobody does right now. That really seems to be the issues everybody's dealing with is very much understandable because it's a worldwide question that can't currently really truly be answered. How much are you behind and pressed and ready to follow whatever the lead is of Adam Silver and everybody involved in trying to make those decisions? They certainly seem to be doing everything they can, at least, to try to make sure they have the information to try to make decisions about when to move forward.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Yeah, I think the communication is good. We're working as a group, but, you know, really, I think the best answer for all this stuff is, I don't know. I mean, I'm a very optimistic person, generally, so, so, you know, I feel good about the science coming, both in treatments and potential vaccines and the speed of those. Like, I'm a good. I'm pretty optimistic about all those things based on the doctors and the researchers I've talked to. But I would say overall the right answer to most questions is I don't know. But, yeah, we'll see how things play out. We're all excited to get going.
Starting point is 01:17:09 But it looks like it's going to be, for sure, a little while at least. Has this time away in any way allowed you to take a moment to try to come up with new ways to do things you guys do well even better? I hope so. I mean, that's our goal. I mean, come out of this stronger. And we think that time is going to be compressed. So we're having to do all our prets that you would do, you know, like between the end of the season and the draft and even after that, all compressed into one window. And hopefully we come up with some stuff that improves things on the floor after.
Starting point is 01:17:47 So we're working all angles. That's pretty much all the guys. got to do. So I hope we come up with something. And certainly the players don't know if the league will hold their draft as scheduled and how they'll go through the process. The last probably three weeks, it's been shockful of players putting their name into the draft, knowing that they can get the information, can still go back if they don't hire an agent. Those things are still in place. But the opportunity to go to the draft combine, the opportunity to go to those things, again, like you said, I think at the onset, it's nothing more than an I don't know situation
Starting point is 01:18:21 for all those guys? Yeah, it's pretty much, I don't know. I mean, one nice thing about the draft is the, there's a lot of flexibility on when you hold that. That one has less sort of already, you know, hard and fast rules on when you have to have it and how it works, like those things. There's more flexibility there.
Starting point is 01:18:42 So there's probably even more opportunity for them to figure out interesting ways to do the draft and almost say anything else, everything else. is pretty much codified in some document that we have to follow. So, you know, there can be some creativity with the draft. We'll see. I mean, I know the league office is working on everything, and, you know, we're actively giving them ideas,
Starting point is 01:19:08 but we're letting them take the lead. The NFL is going to go through their draft here, and they're going to do it online. It's all virtual. It's in different places, all those things like that. There's no question, and we've heard from coaches already, some concern. Should they be concerned about the security of something like that, or is this something you feel? No, no. That's how the NBA does it. So, yes, phones work. It's Zoom falls apart.
Starting point is 01:19:34 It's funny, though. I'm more worried about that than the league office. So when we first get on to make our selection, you have five minutes in the first round and two minutes of the second round. I will insist on our, the person on the phone, basically giving a provisional pick that will be our pick in case we get disconnected. And the league office always gives me grief about it. I'm like, guys, like, what if I get disconnected? What if they're like, why don't you want this? So, yeah, now it'll be fine. I mean, it's not that hard to use.
Starting point is 01:20:09 It's not that hard to use phones and technology. So I think the NFL will make it. I know it's different than they're used to, but that's how the NBA does it. So the show on TV is literally no team executives are there. It's just the top players, you know, and Adam and Tatum, you know, basically announcing it. That's the NBA draft. Talking to Rock as General Manager, Darrell Mori here on Sports Talk 790. How much, you know, Wex mentioned watching PJ Tucker on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:20:39 How much are you in contact with the players right now during this time? time. Yeah, we're pretty in close contact. Obviously, they're getting, you know, workout programs for the guys who are doing rehab. We had a couple guys. They're going rehab programs. Nutrition, nutrition advice, either meals delivered or just, you know, here's, here's a recommended program. So all that happens pretty regular. That's mostly happening through Keith Jones and Javar and Jason Biles and, you know, the key folks they normally work with. Yeah, I've touched face with, you know, with, you know, Russell, James, you know, with with the key guys and, you know, here and there.
Starting point is 01:21:26 So it's, you know, frankly, yeah, everyone's, you know, really missing basketball right now. That's been that's been the main thing. But, you know, everyone's going through it. So it seems like, seems like Houston. Obviously, we got some way to go, but it seems like Houston's done a good job on keeping things, keeping the load on our hospitals less than a lot of the rest of the country. So I've been encouraged by that. Is there, and this will be, trust me, this will be the most, quote unquote, difficult question that we ask. Is there any part of you personally that worries that this was a year of Russell Westbrook's prime of James Harden's prime that may or may not be lost because of something like this?
Starting point is 01:22:12 Well, I mean, we're very optimistic over the season. So, yeah, if there's no season somehow, then obviously, you know, we have, I think, a very good chance to win this year. And you guys sort of know how I define very good. I mean, pretty much any time you're above five, you're in a pretty good shape in most sports. And we're pretty healthy above 5% chance in this year. So, yeah, no, you know, our time is. now. I think we have the most veteran oldest team in the league, so losing a season would be not ideal. But we're optimistic that that'll get it in. All right. That's Darry from
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Starting point is 01:24:37 We'll go over again some resistance from several. of Major League players about the future of baseball in Arizona, maybe perhaps at the start of the regular season. You know, we were kids. We played baseball outside. It was hot. I don't know if I ever think I'd ever want to play a game in Phoenix, Arizona in the middle of the day at 107 degrees at first pitch.
Starting point is 01:24:59 We were kids, though. I mean, it would be like after school, which is at least after three o'clock. Yeah. It wouldn't be out there. I mean, I guess during the season, I didn't play high school baseball, but I only played If you play at 8 o'clock Phoenix time for our first pitch, they're screwy. Sometimes they're an hour in front of you behind you
Starting point is 01:25:19 and sometimes are two hours behind you. It's very good because they don't do daylight savings. Correct. I think it's an hour right now. Yeah. So you're looking at 9 o'clock in the Central Times Zone, which we're custom to. We don't like it, but we're custom to it.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Actually, it's 1149 right now there. Oh. Just kidding. And y'all are just full of misinformation today. Do we figure out the text? Did the Texan have a fourth round? I'm sorry, Wikipedia might have had it wrong. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Okay. Draft order. So we'll get to more of that at the top of the hour. We have done our series of people we miss hearing from. Yes. Listen to this guest list. Hey, consultant out there. You know the one that likes to just blow on every talk show host in America?
Starting point is 01:26:00 You know, that consultant guy? Oh, they do have. Well, ESPN has them as having a fourth rounder. Yeah. What the hell? We've had Kaylee Griffin on from AT&T. Okay. Also Bill Worell.
Starting point is 01:26:10 Craig Ackerman, Kevin Harlan, Bill Brown, tomorrow on the radio program, you want to listen at 1 o'clock. You should listen all the time. The legendary Jim Nance will be on this radio program. Is that right? Yep. Is he going to say hello, friends? That's, I guess he could say that. I'll leave it open and I'll say anything.
Starting point is 01:26:34 Anything else you want to say to Houston? He can go, well, hello, Houston, friends. stay safe, stay in the house, cough on your elbow. I only get 10 minutes with him, so I want to make sure I get right to it. Who's limiting you to 10 minutes? His people. That's your boy, though. You guys are, you know.
Starting point is 01:26:49 So maybe I'll try it for a living. Maybe I'll try it for 11. Yeah, you should just push it a little bit. What are they going to do, hang up on you? Matt, I really got to go. I've got to do an interview in Cleveland. Click. Just ask him a question at like 950, and then he goes overtime.
Starting point is 01:27:02 It's not your fault. Yeah, so let me give you the behind the scenes on this. I've been trying for Jim. since we started this series, and the initial response I got from his people was he's not doing any interviews. But if he does, I'll let CBS know. And that was a very polite. I told this to Ross and Hap. I said, that's a very polite.
Starting point is 01:27:21 He just doesn't want to do anything right now. Which is his right. I mean, you know what, if he's wants, this is a rare time for him to spend lots of family time. If he doesn't want to talk sports, I get it. Or life. And I said, I told Melissa, I said, this is his assistant. I said, thank you very much. please send Jim my best.
Starting point is 01:27:38 And I didn't think anything of it. Two days ago, I got an email, hey, Jim would like to do something with you. Good. Great. And so we're going to actually tape the interview tomorrow at 1130, and then we'll replay it at 1 o'clock tomorrow. So it was kind of cool.
Starting point is 01:27:53 That Jim Nance, who's been with us a couple times on the show over the years. I have to ask him, and the thing I'm most curious about. First of all, his last college basketball game that he did this year was in Houston at the Fortita Center and how surreal that was being in a building that was formerly
Starting point is 01:28:10 Hallifying that he worked at and, you know, he had, because let's be honest, the Cougars have gotten lots of bad officiating of the last 30 years. And so thus, they weren't able to, CBS did not come here very often. But here's the number two thing I want to know. Did he know right away that Tony Rummel was going to be such a television star?
Starting point is 01:28:30 My guess is he's probably saying yes. But I want to know, I want to know what that first test was like because, you know, he had replaced Phil Sims, who was the number one broadcaster on the CBS games for a long time. And there were a lot of people that have thrown a little bit of criticism towards Phil's way. And there were some people that just didn't think he was the best.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Well, he wasn't good. He didn't bother me. But when you're number one, it's very hard to get taken off the number one pedestal. They went and got a guy, now that they take Phil Simmons off, Phil Sims off the number one crew, but they replaced him with someone that had never done a game before, ever.
Starting point is 01:29:10 And he has been a rock star to the point of $17 million a year. Well, if it's just like, I don't miss Phil. That would be funny. He's not going to say about that. I know, he's not. He's going to be very kind and different. Hello, friends. Phil Sims is right where he needs to be at the studio.
Starting point is 01:29:26 Actually, I think Phil does a good job on the NFL today. Way better. I don't watch a lot of that pregame stuff because if I'm going to sit down for 10 hours a day, I don't want, the pregame doesn't do much for me. I'll watch the Red Zone countdown is what I watch. That's my pregame. By the way, the latest rumor is on Monday Night Football. You're ready for this?
Starting point is 01:29:40 No, I'm not. Three-man booth. Louis Riddick, Dan Orlovsky, and play-by-play guy, Steve Levy. Interesting. I like that. Solid. But, aren't you supposed to be blown away by Monday Night Football? Like, everything about Monday Night Football is supposed to be the coolest of the cool.
Starting point is 01:30:04 But the games are solid. bad it seems like. This last season, we weren't as bad as years past. Yeah. But you know what it is now, guys? No, I don't. I think Sunday night football has taken over as the must-see game.
Starting point is 01:30:17 Of course, yeah. For the last decade. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Because that's where Al and John were, when John retired. Al and Chris are probably considered the best broadcast team in football, if not for maybe Nance and Romo. I don't know. I go, Nancy Romo.
Starting point is 01:30:33 But it's not like Chris Collinsworth. I mean, I know some, he gets a lot of criticism, but when you're on the top on the list and you're seen by more than anybody else, you're going to get your more criticism and other people. That's just the truth of it. But I think most people think that Al and Chris
Starting point is 01:30:46 are very good broadcasting. There always seems very really, I mean, Al's in his mid-70s and still calling games and has shown no signs of slipping. My favorite part of Al, he's slipping. What is he slipping in?
Starting point is 01:30:58 I think he's been missing more stuff and not making as much sense. Yeah, I think so. I think he's, I think he's been slipping. I think he's been just as good as ever. I mean, I wouldn't say he's like 47-year-old Al Michaels, but he's certainly most guys in their 70s really fall off the map.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Like, we listen to that Keith Jackson game. He's not Keith Jackson bad yet, but I do think Alas lost a little bit of the fastball. He's in his Zach Rinky stage of his career. I don't know. I mean, ABC was going after and to go back to do Monday football again with Peyton Manning. So obviously somebody thought he was pretty good. He's like 75 or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:31 And, you know, he's only working 20 days of he. here, give or take. I mean, he doesn't do anything else. Not like he's got a busy sled of NBA games you got to worry about. But, yeah, so Jim Nansel, join us tomorrow at 1 o'clock. We'll have the interview for you there. And Steve Levy, Lewis Riddick, Dan Olofsky. Well, we'll see.
Starting point is 01:31:51 Yeah, I don't know. It just, it doesn't feel like to me that's great magic. And I always thought the Monday night games, maybe again, I'm going back of 20 years ago. Maybe that's just why I got to get past. Is it? It's just another game now. and that broadcasters, no matter who they are, if the game sucks, you're not going to watch. But a great game with lousy broadcasters can bring the game down.
Starting point is 01:32:12 So we'll see. Steve Levy, you know, longtime ESPN guy. Dan Orlovsky is the one that's really moving up the charts. Dan is on that get-up show every damn day. I don't know a whole lot about him and how he is as a broadcaster. Oh, I think he's really good. He's very opinionated, did a lot of college games this year. And I think he is the rising star at that network.
Starting point is 01:32:34 And then what do you have a problem with him being on Monday Night Football? I don't. I just, but it just doesn't seem like to maybe, when you think of the history of Monday Night Football, you've had players that have had fairly good amount of success. Even Burger McFarland for the criticism that he's received. He was a pretty good NFL player.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Dan Olofsky, when I think of Dan Olofsky, I think of bad Texans quarterback and a guy that ran out of the end zone for an intentionally for a safety. I don't think it wasn't intentional. He was running for his life. He didn't understand the rule because he came from the CFL. But you know what? I don't think that doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:33:10 It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Zero bearing to me on anything. But the history of the Monday Night Football Series has had a lot. I mean, it's had O.J. Simpson. It's had Dan. Murderer. It's had Dania Don.
Starting point is 01:33:21 It's had Alex Karris. It's had, who else has been the greats? Dan Dierdorf was a very good offense. Tony Kornheiser, Dennis Miller. Yeah, but I mean. They're just, they've been. been tricking it out to try to grab some semblance of an audience. Yeah, that doesn't factor in for me at all, what anybody did in there. If they're good,
Starting point is 01:33:40 they're good. I think Orlovsky's really, really good. He will be, I think, the star of that broadcast. 158. We start the final hour of the Matt Thomas show next. Ron Jorowski wouldn't good. Oh, sure he was. NFL career, was he? Yeah, very good quarterback. Led the Eagles of the Super Bowl in 80? Yeah, good quarterback. Not a Hall of Fame, but very good. One-time Pro Bowler? Okay. How many urge he throw four? I didn't say on his wiki page. Man, they got up to that wiki page. And I thought, I thought Joroski was really good.
Starting point is 01:34:10 He had no entertainment value. And frankly, the reason why he got bumped off is because John Gruden was a star and they wanted to give him more spotlight. Career yards, 28,000. Yeah, I wouldn't say good quarterback. I mean, not I would build a franchise around, but very good. Longtime starter in the NFL. 158 starts the final hour, the Matt Thomas show after I tell you about what's happening with the Shell Federal Credit Union. Saving money on mortgage loans can be something that you can do right now,
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Starting point is 01:36:01 They're showing Masters highlights, or not highlights, replay. I'm assuming from last year. From last year? Yeah. They're going to try to play this. It's called his old guy running around. It's called his name as Jack Nicholas. Oh, this is the par three contest.
Starting point is 01:36:18 From 2018. Who could forget? What a memorable par three contest it was. Who would have video? Who would have thought, well, let's put this in the archives. That's just crazy. I'm sure they save everything. Oh, it's probably very easy to save everything.
Starting point is 01:36:33 They're going to put this in November. I don't know what it's, I mean, Atlanta is still the South, but man, it can get pretty chilly in the ATL. Are the azaleas in full bloom, Matthew? No, I think it's going to be another but weeds. That's, well, that is one of the draws of the masters. It is like the most beautiful course in the world. From what I understand, and I've never been there before, it is, you get blown away by going.
Starting point is 01:36:55 You get blown away by the accessibility. You get blown away by the fact that everything's reasonably priced in terms of getting in. But when you get in, you're coming off of a highway where there's nothing but Denny's and Applebee's and strip centers. It's tucked away in this area town that you never, if you look from the top, you would never would have thought there would be an amazing golf course. right next door. Yeah. It would be like putting Augusta National on an FM 1960. What's wrong with FM 1960, Matt?
Starting point is 01:37:26 You get my drift. I grew up over there. No, FM 1960 is a fine road. It's just you would not envision having a world-renowned golf course right in the middle off of a block pass FM 1960 in Kirkendahl. Yeah. Or whatever, you never cross street. But it's just, that's what I've been told is that you would never would.
Starting point is 01:37:44 And I'd like to go one time for myself. I just didn't have had time to go, but he would never envision this historical, super recognizable golf course in the middle of an area where there is, you know, a quick-loop a mile away from it. And the food's still cheap, right? Yeah, the sandwiches are cheap. You know the most famous sandwiches there? The Rubin.
Starting point is 01:38:10 Nope. You really don't know. No, I have no clue. It's pimento cheese sandwiches. Oh, that's right. Which I hate. Pemento cheese I'm okay with. I would never order it, but if you hand me a pimento cheese sandwich, I will eat it.
Starting point is 01:38:25 Now, we did go to a restaurant not too long ago where they would, they fried the fomino cheese. And it was actually way different. They purated almost, and it was delicious. You and I? No, something else. Yeah. But, yeah, I'm not a pimento cheese person. By the way, and we'll go to, we got Mark and we're talking about golf spots.
Starting point is 01:38:44 I've been doing more of these Facebook quizzes. You know, people are bored They're running a Facebook I mean, you're not a Facebook I never see you on Facebook ever Joe, are you a Facebook guy? I'm on, I just, I don't really use it. I've been on there more
Starting point is 01:38:56 probably in the last 30 days than I've been in the last 30 weeks. It's not my spot Facebook. And, you know, to each his own. I mean, everybody's, you know, some people say IG's where they, a lot of people are doing TikTok, which I thought TikTok was like
Starting point is 01:39:11 for people under the age of 20. I'm seeing my adult friends on TikTok. I mean, TikTok's for anybody. It is, clearly, but I just was like, I thought it was more of a young person's theme, but there's just older people, but I've been going to Facebook more often, and I've been doing these stupid quizzes. I've like 10, so I put 10 things you like, I hate. And it's, how could you not like this?
Starting point is 01:39:35 And I just, it was one of those things that I was just doing it to bring up conversation. I wasn't doing it because I was trying to attack your taste. But there are two things in my life that I do not like, and you know one of them is guacamole. You don't like a lot of weird things. I don't like Dr. Pepper. Guacamole I was with you with. I mean, I will eat mostly at restaurants is terrible.
Starting point is 01:39:56 My mom makes the best guacamole in the world. You've told me that before, and I cannot wait to taste. And so, I mean, I don't eat it from hardly anywhere else. You hate enchiladas. You hate tamales. What is wrong with you? I did not put enchiladas on the list, but I probably think I should have. But let me just give you the quick list before we go to the phones.
Starting point is 01:40:13 It's 713-212-5-790. these are 10 things that I don't like and I got a variety of yeah that makes sense and a lot of it is go away here are the 10 things I don't like olives okay whatever
Starting point is 01:40:25 Bob Dylan yeah I could see that guacamole okay the beach why not I'm not a good just sit there and soak it up
Starting point is 01:40:34 I don't want I don't go and get in the water have you been in gavis and water many of times it's a little dicey a lot of urine out there there's a urine in every ocean. Yeah, so you don't go in it.
Starting point is 01:40:47 Okay. I'm not worried about urine using pools. I mean, what if you go to, have you been to like really nice beaches? Now, I do like Gavison a lot. I'm about like sitting on a deck or whatever the case would be. Yeah. Well, what if you, you said you go to Destin and all that? You get the beach there? Those are nicer waters. Very, very small
Starting point is 01:41:03 doses. What if you get you in like Cozumel or the Caribbean or something? I never been to Mexico that way part. I'm only been to Mexico City. There you go. But I'm not, the reason I put the beach. The reason I put the beach, I'm just on a person. Let's go get chairs. sit there for hours and read a book or get something on my phone. It's very relaxing.
Starting point is 01:41:21 It's just not me. Are the beaches closed everywhere? I would assume so. They should have been a first weekend. The first weekend, people were going there regardless. Other things on my list, Dr. Pepper. Dr. Pepper is fantastic. Yep, never liked it.
Starting point is 01:41:35 What is wrong with you? Horror movies. That's fine. I can take or leave them. Sweet tea. All right, now you're crazy. Driving. I get that.
Starting point is 01:41:42 I hate driving is horrible. I hate driving. I know. You make me drive on all our road trips. Cranalope. Canaloupe's not good. I don't know many people that like cantaloupe. Who really loves can'tloose?
Starting point is 01:41:52 Then why do they put it? When you go get a fruit salad, why do they load the damn thing in there? It's cheap. It's cheap. It's cheap. You're always going to have a lot of watermelon and a lot of cantaloup in those because those are very cheap. Love watermelon. Love it. And then I put cats. And I forgot enchiladas.
Starting point is 01:42:05 That would have been my 11th thing. That's actually why I appreciate Chick-fil-Aze Fruit Cup because it doesn't have cantalope and all the cheap stuff. They load up with grapes. Yeah, it's grapes and apples and strawberries. thumbs up from the fruit cup from Chick-fil-A. All right. So my yesterday's post I put up there is I've interviewed lots of sports people over my career, thousands, whatever the number may be.
Starting point is 01:42:26 I've also interviewed a handful of celebrities, and you have to guess, and you don't get to answer this. Why not? Because I think you know the answer. Joe George, you don't think, I don't think you know the answer, so I'm going to give you a chance to win this. Okay. The prize of nothing. Here are seven celebrities. Which one of the seven?
Starting point is 01:42:42 Only one have I never interviewed. Darius Rucker, who is Hooty of Hootie in the Blowfish, Bill Cosby, Larry the Cable Guy, Jamie Farr, who played Klingler on MASH, Adam Sandler, Hulk Hogan, or Mark Summers. Which one of the seven I never interviewed? I'm going to go Mark Summers. He had him on Super Bowl last year.
Starting point is 01:43:09 I figured all these are all Super Bowl. I didn't work here last year. I worked at the competition. Well, this is the thing. Welcome over. I'm glad to have you. Well, can I go into this yet or am I still off limits? Because I think Bill Cosby...
Starting point is 01:43:20 I don't know the answer. Oh, you really know? Bill Cosby is the one we're like, oh, he didn't interview Bill Cosby. I think you definitely interviewed Bill Cosby. He interviewed Bill Cosby because he was playing at the arena theater, and then he got into a lot of legal troubles and went blind. Larry the cable guy's always at Radio Row. So yes, he did.
Starting point is 01:43:35 Hogan's been there a lot. Is Hogan? Darius Rucker. I know he's interviewed 1, 2, 3, 7 for sure. I don't even know who number 4 is, so I don't know. Maybe he's interviewed him. Now, you met Sandler, but I don't know. You mean interviewed him on air.
Starting point is 01:43:52 Interview, not a meeting. Because I've talked about on the show last few months that we were in Los Angeles, and he was at the same restaurant where having breakfast. Yeah, so I know you've talked with him. I don't know if you interviewed him. So I'm going to go with, I think it's Sandler or Hogan, but I'm going to go with Sandler. And the correct answer is Adam Sandler.
Starting point is 01:44:06 You are absolutely right. Yes. Adam Sandler, who I did see and I did talk to him at the restaurant at the hotel where in Los Angeles, had a great visit with it, but it was never an interview. Adam Sandler for about a decade has always been offered up as radio row guest because he's promoting some movie normally have some sort of sports to it. Here's the thing about Sandler is that whoever books him books him for like 20 interviews in two hours. Like every 10 minutes he's on a radio station.
Starting point is 01:44:32 By about the third or fourth interview, he quits. He's like, I can't do this. Honestly, he's only ever really good with Sean and Dan Patrick. It's the only time I've ever heard Sandler do an interview that I've actually enjoyed. He knows those guys. I was in front of him when he was with, in Indianapolis, we had him for whatever movie he was doing. He was on with Charlie Polillo. And how was that?
Starting point is 01:44:55 He was, he tried to cancel, number one, because he was very tired. Yeah. He said. Every year it happens. So he did it, but Charlie is friends with the guy that was booking, you know. And so Charlie was like, come on, we got to get him on. So he did come on. He wore my headphones, which I thought was cool.
Starting point is 01:45:12 Took a couple pictures for the website. he was very, he kind of loosened up a little bit towards the end of the interview. Very, very early on, he was not energetic and giving one word answers, but then he loosened up a little bit since they're both New Yorkers. I did, I'll tell you this, and we'll go with some phone calls here. Plus, we have to celebrate anniversary today in sports. We don't do a whole that on the show. There's a big anniversary I want to talk about.
Starting point is 01:45:35 The one big disappointment, I did a group interview one time with Bill Murray. He was in Utah. I was working in Utah, and he came in for a big charity event. And look, I wasn't a big S&L fan, but I liked him on there, and I liked his movies, obviously. Well, a few of the early ones. Yeah. He couldn't have been a bigger A-hole. I mean, it was the point that I was like, I'm not running any of this because he would give you one-word answers.
Starting point is 01:46:02 And then he's like, what else you guys want to ask me? It was the worst experience of my life. Two of my great disappointments. And actually both happened in Utah. No, actually what happened in here? I had a terrible interview with Bill Murray and hated that. And Jack Nicholas was kind of being a jerk too. And he was over here at Houston a few years ago over the Eustonian.
Starting point is 01:46:25 So those are those kind of those things that you go, man, I wish I would have been able to say, man, I had a great visit with Bill Murray. And he was so funny and gregarious. And he was just the opposite. Same thing when I played golf with Mickey Dolan to the monkeys. God, he was an a-hole. Oh, it was terrible. That's probably because he got you cheating.
Starting point is 01:46:42 I use the foot wedge just twice. All right, Mark and Waddlebrook wants to talk about golf spots. I'm all for that, and we're going to celebrate an anniversary. One of the biggest moments in the history of baseball, and for that matter, sports. We'll do that in a minute. 2.14. It is the Matt Thomas show with a message here for oops, steam cleaning. 281-8-2-2-0-561.
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Starting point is 01:48:05 The Matt Thomas show continues. We're celebrating an anniversary coming up in about 10 minutes. Let's go to Mark and Wittlebrook on the Matt Thomas show. Mark, thanks for holding. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. You need to do a list of what you like. And if Aaron's on there, put Astrid buying for Dog and the Astros.
Starting point is 01:48:21 Who's that? If Hank Aaron's on the list, put an Astrid buying for Dog and the Astros. Well, he's old. He's just old. Anyway, back to the golf. You know, I guess... Are you losing a train of thought? No, I got interrupted.
Starting point is 01:48:45 He's over there, August. He was talking to you back there. Yeah. Augusta, you know, everything kind of grew up around them. And the same thing with champions. And I guess you forgot champions golf courses, number one in the state. And I think it's a top ten in the U.S. Okay.
Starting point is 01:49:07 Anything else? So, no, I just sticking up for the hood, the 1960 area. Yeah, apparently there is a world-class golf course over there, man. I haven't been the champions in forever. What's right next to? champions? Well, you know, it's like anything, everything's kind of in Houston deteriorating, but, you know, you were talking about the strip centers, you know. Yeah, I don't, I don't, there's a strip center right across the street. Yeah, I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I'm just
Starting point is 01:49:34 going off what people have told me before about Augusta. I don't remember champions being in a dicey area. You know, a bunch of homes there there? No, there's homes around it, but I mean, you know, the area is changing. Yeah, I bet. Everything's changing. All right, Mark. Come on out here, and I'll take it to Spushie. Oh, perfect. Oh, Sushi? Well, I don't want to eat in the car with you. Man, I'll eat down. I'll eat with you, but we've got to wait for the restaurants open up.
Starting point is 01:49:58 Yeah, Ken Hoffman. He's like, let's go eat chicken last two weeks ago. So we didn't eat chicken. Yeah, you all ate in the parking lot, right? We ate the parking lot. It was awful. That's weird. It was weird.
Starting point is 01:50:07 I'll fully admit it was weird. Eat with another man in the parking lot? Yeah. That sounds like Hoffie 101, though. So, I'm going to throw him on the bus. But do it? I'm going to anyway. I said, get me?
Starting point is 01:50:20 unsweet tea. He goes, okay, I'll get it. I said, no sugar. Nothing. I want unsweet tea. That's what I like to drink. And I go get, he gets the drink for me. And first thing I take a swig, it's sweet tea. I'm like, I told you unsweet. He goes, I know I told her that. Yeah, sometimes they don't hear you right. So I went back in. Uh-oh. And I said, ma'am, my friend wants ordered unsweet. He goes, no, sir, he ordered a sweet tea. Uh-oh. So it's one word against the other. I order unsweet all the time and get sweet. I would say probably like 10, 15% of the time I get sweet. And look, I don't. And I still drink it.
Starting point is 01:50:57 I know I'm in the minority. I know that I'm not. Well, you will refuse to drink it if you get sweet tea. Correct. What is wrong with you? It's gross. It's gross. It's gross.
Starting point is 01:51:04 You drink sodas all the time. Well, I don't drink sugar. It makes you sick? Yeah. It would just make, ooh. It's just a horrible taste. Like, that's why I don't like guacamole because the texture of it. Things just enter your mouth.
Starting point is 01:51:17 You just don't like it. He didn't hear it. I'll cut that one for us, Joe. 222. I'll email him in case you get to text that. I'm sure you will. I was setting you up for that anyway. You know that. Where are we going with this? I don't know. Oh, yeah. So just, yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:38 While we were running through everything that's happening on your Facebook page, we can continue to do that. Yeah. I'm going to start putting up daily questions. Are you? Because I'm bored. Okay. Pick up a hobby. Start sewing or crocheting or something. Guess what I'm doing this week? I'm cleaning out. Why don't you start playing a keyboard and start playing the piano?
Starting point is 01:51:56 Like self-taught or going on? I've been thinking about buying a keyboard and getting back. I used to play the piano from when I was like 9 to like 13. Like fluently you could? I mean, it was okay. It wasn't good. That's one of the reasons I quit. Put some work back in.
Starting point is 01:52:10 Have I ever asked you this question on air? If I gave you the chance, Joe, you can answer this too. If I ever gave you the chance to fluently learn a language, if I gave you a magic potion. language. Or I gave you the ability with that magic pill or whatever to learn to play an instrument immediately. What would you do? Probably piano.
Starting point is 01:52:33 Over a language. I would have used to say an instrument, but I need to learn Arabic. For your family. For my wife's family. You can't understand what you're saying. They just like talk around me and like it's like I'm not there sometimes. Oh, they're probably talking trash about you like they do at the...
Starting point is 01:52:50 I've been able to figure it out when they're talking about me. Wait, okay. Where do you learn how to speak Arabic? I don't know. I've got to learn. So if there was a pill that could teach me, it'd be awesome. Make my life so much easier. Now, like, do they fluently speak in it around you all the time?
Starting point is 01:53:06 At, like, family parties and stuff, they, like, forget that I'm, like, the only white guy there. It's like they will. But they speak English normally, correct? Yeah, I mean, but, like, her grandmother... But her native tongue is... Like, her grandmother doesn't speak great English. It would make easier to communicate. But yeah, so if I could learn another language, I would in an instant.
Starting point is 01:53:26 By the way, our buddy, Big Bright 83 says Bucky's half and half sweet, unsweet tea is the way to go. You know, why don't you try a little half and half. I don't know, but I like the flavor of the sweet, even if it was not. It's sugar. You like sugar in basically anything. I like sugar in my coffee, which makes me highly inconsistent. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:53:44 You're right. You put sugar in your coffee, but not your tea. and you quote don't like the taste. The taste is sugar. Unsweet tea does taste better, though. I don't know about that. Unsweet tea with a lemon wedge squeeze in there. I like a good fresh unsweet tea.
Starting point is 01:54:01 The problem is a lot of times you order it and it's not fresh. Sneaky good sweet tea though, McDonald's. Sneaky good. I try not to order sweet tea at fast food places. But I grew up on tea. We always had it in my house, if there wasn't a picture of tea, somebody has screwed up and needs to start making tea. Okay, so you're going to the language, you're going Arabic language, and you're going with the piano.
Starting point is 01:54:22 The piano. I'm just going with whatever can get you the most ladies. Probably piano. I'm going to go guitar. I'm going to go guitar. I'm going to go guitar. Yeah, but nobody likes that D-Back who whips out the guitar at parties. He's all pretentious.
Starting point is 01:54:33 But if you don't do it, you don't have to do it at parties, though. Guitar would be probably my choice. Wait a minute. But Ross, the lady's like, oh, you can tick all the ivories, huh? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Ross, you should learn guitar. guitar is going to get you a lot further. I just had that feeling.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Richard and pass a get down, Dena on 790. Hi, Richard. Well, this is Fletcher. Sorry, I must not have spoke clearly to the call, guys. Probably my fault. What up, Fletcher? Hey, I was, I'm just driving around board and stuff, and I'm wanting to talk Rockets and not really sure what to talk about.
Starting point is 01:55:11 I was, so I was thinking in the offseason after this, you know, let's say that the season ends, and they decide that, you know, the off-season is going to be normal and stuff. What's a guy that they could add to their team around the league in Dreamworld? Obviously, I'm not talking to LeBron or somebody that's kind of untouchable, but what's a guy that would fit with their team that could make them better and maybe help them almost definitely take the next step
Starting point is 01:55:42 to at least get to the finals or something like that? Well, I frankly haven't thought about that, but what I can do is give you the list of free agents for 2020. A list of free agents of the rockets aren't going to be able to afford. Are you like making fun of me now? No, no, I'm serious. Why would I think about free agency for the Rockets when the season hasn't finished yet? Well, it's going to be like right now they're not going to probably have a season. We already know it's going to be in the playoff.
Starting point is 01:56:11 Okay, well, then let me go to this list. Let me run through some names. Well, the problem is the payroll is going to be. So you have Gordon and Westbrook and Hardin. I mean, that's what? That's $100 million right there plus. The only player that I can think of of note that is a free agent coming up is PJ Tucker. Well, I thought they did they guarantee his last year or something like that recently?
Starting point is 01:56:33 Yeah, I'd have to, again, I was ill-prepared for a friend-being free agent talk question. So I don't know. Yeah, Covington. I know. I know. No, no, no, no, no. Let me know. Stop, stop, stop.
Starting point is 01:56:43 Fletcher, let me tell you something. I'm glad you called because it will spike a conversation. I just don't have... Let me just give you a few names. The number one name in this off-season for agency will be Anthony Davis. Okay? Let me give me some other names. And you just tell me how hot and cold you are on these people.
Starting point is 01:56:58 By the way, check on PJ while I run through this list. I believe they guaranteed it. Okay. Brandon Ingram is a free agent. It's restricted free agent, meaning the team can match. Fred VanVent really saw his stock rise in Toronto the last couple of years. In February, they guaranteed his contract. So they have him on the books. They have Robert Covington for 12 million, Gordon for 16, and then 40 apiece for Russ and James. So, I mean,
Starting point is 01:57:22 that's already, they can't afford any big names. Yeah, I mean, I could run to these names right here. And they would be names that you would, they would have to go with a sign and trade and move players around. So, yeah, there's nothing right now that comes to mind that go, wow, that's a guy that's going to fit because the Rockets don't really don't have money to put anybody in there. Yeah. Okay. Well, probably I feel on my part I just
Starting point is 01:57:47 you know I feel like that they're the way that they're constructed even though I think that they're good and I think that they cause problems for a lot of people
Starting point is 01:58:00 I just feel like that they're going to be a little bit short and you know maybe all the things have flaws them but I I was just trying to think of some possible way if there's something they could do that would give us maybe a little more confidence.
Starting point is 01:58:16 And I don't know free agency problem. But anyway, I appreciate y'all. That was my craziness. You got it. Thank you for the phone call. P.J. Tucker next year at the age of 35, we'll be making $7.9 million. He's a 2021-22- unrestricted free engine.
Starting point is 01:58:34 So he's got one in your life. Yeah, the last year I think was like a team option or something. And then February they guaranteed it. All right. Let's celebrate an anniversary of what I think people still believe is the all-time home run king. Are we going to celebrate good times? Come on? Well, if you think, unless you're talking about Barry Bonds, they're wrong.
Starting point is 01:58:54 I think there's a lot of people that still in America do not believe that Barry Bonds is the Home Run King. Well, I'm sorry, look at the numbers. I'm sorry, look at the numbers. Look at the needle. The needle says the numbers. The needle says 230 is the number. The number 30 is the number. Sports Talk 790.
Starting point is 01:59:08 Available everywhere with the IHeard Radio app. Now number one for podcasting. This day, 46 years ago. Wow. Cranky Hank Aaron did this. Sitting on 714. So what do you think? I know that Ross that we're kind of joshing about.
Starting point is 02:00:24 And look, obviously, Hank Barry's got the record. But what do you think baseball historians think? Do they say, you know what? Barry never was suspended a game. There was always this about this. He thought it was the clear instead of the cream. The pitchers were cheating too. Pictures were cheating too.
Starting point is 02:00:44 It's a gray area for sure. It's an all-time gray area. If the three of us went to a bar, provided the bar was open, boys. Yeah. Or we'd have to sit six feet across. You could yell. And we went to a regular bar with regular sportsmen, not crotchety, 80-year-old people and not Uber hipsters 23-year-olds.
Starting point is 02:01:02 And just found a nice cross-section of America between 25 and, and 75. I said, who's the all-time Home Run King? Would most people recognize it as Henry Aaron, or would they recognize it as Barry Bonds? My guess is probably Barry Bonds, because he was the closest, and this is where I'm not going back
Starting point is 02:01:20 46 years. I think most people in the public space would say Henry Aaron. I think so. Okay. And again, you could do a poll question, but that's only, you know, you're just doing it just to do it, but I, you know, I just... I think it's 50-50. Think so?
Starting point is 02:01:36 I really do. I think a lot of the people my age and younger would go Barry Bonds. Because that group saying under 35 doesn't particularly care. Yeah, I don't really know anything about Hank Aaron besides stats on a piece of paper. Well, I'm glad you asked about that because one of the things I got to do before Milo passed, this is about seven or eight years ago. I was down in spring training and Milo and I sat down for about two hours. This was more recent than seven or eight years, I think ago. But anyway, Well, he's been dead probably three or four. So three or four before that he was doing calling games.
Starting point is 02:02:11 So whatever it was. You know, maybe time flies. It didn't matter. It does. And so he and I sat down for about two hours and we recorded everything. I recorded it. Yeah. Did you do that, by the way?
Starting point is 02:02:20 Thank you. Everything about his life from calling games to his life in the military. Great stuff. Fascinating stuff. We chopped it up into various segments. And I do have one here. The memories with Milo, right? Is that what we called?
Starting point is 02:02:33 We did a weekly segment called Mileso, Memories of Milo. And here is Milo when he and I were in Florida at some baseball park. I don't know which one was, but talking about him calling 715. He had announced two years before that he was going after the record, which was a total surprise because the babe himself, Matt, thought that 714 would last forever. As he announces it, then the media coverage everywhere we went was enormous. And then, believe it or not, all the bad mail you've heard about, all the haters, that didn't want him to break the record.
Starting point is 02:03:08 We didn't know about that until after he hit the home run. We kind of had a hit that something was going on because an Atlanta detective traveled with us for a year. And Henry was not staying in our hotel. He was staying in another hotel under an assumed name. So there was something going on, but we had no idea of the volume. So when it happened,
Starting point is 02:03:29 and they're putting everybody down at home plate for the quick ceremony, and his folks were down there and his brother Tommy, and he just, as he went to the microphone, you could just see the air go out. Thank God it's over. And that said it all. You have said that you didn't have anything rehearsed. But tell me honestly, how nervous were you that because you knew, no matter how long it was going to be, that this was going to be a call that was going to be replayed over and over and over again.
Starting point is 02:03:57 Well, here's one thing about it, Matt. See, it was the Monday night game of the week with Kurt Gowdy. The Dodgers were the visiting team. so I was surrounded by Gowdy and Scully, and I didn't have time to get nervous because I had to do the 6 o'clock news portion on WSB. I did the sports, ran to the park, got my lineups, and like I do at our park now,
Starting point is 02:04:19 I was going to do the opening night ceremonies. And Jimmy Carter, then the governor was down there with me and Pearl Bailey and Sammy Davis, Jr., and you can imagine what was around me. But having to introduce the players, I never had a chance to get nervous. so I get up there and do the game. But you know, the only pre-thing that I had decided was
Starting point is 02:04:41 that you will not hear me say holy Tiddly in any part of the Homer or around it because that would tie me to it more than just my voice. And it was Aaron's moment. It wasn't my moment. It was his. And frankly, though, Milo has gotten as much, or did get as much leverage or coverage of his call. as much of the home run, because they don't play Vin Scully's home run call.
Starting point is 02:05:08 They don't play Kurt Gowdy's call. They play Milo's call. That's true. You know what the craziest part of this was, and he's not the only one who did it, but 40 plus years ago, when these play-by-play guys would do these games, they were anchoring newscast.
Starting point is 02:05:22 He would do the 6 o'clock sports. He's told me this many occasions. He would do the 6 o'clock sports on the local TV station and then would go to the ballpark and broadcast the game. Really? Do you know who else did that for several decades? not several decades, but I think for a better part of a decade. Marv Albert would do it.
Starting point is 02:05:39 He would anchor the channel of Four News in New York sportscast, and then he would be at Madison's Court Garden either to do the next game or the Rangers games. Could you imagine Randy McElroy doing a stand-up and then going, dropping his microphone, taking his earpiece off, running into the booth and starting to call a game? They did it from the studio and then had to go to the arena or ballpark or what? Probably a little combination of both. I don't know how many live trucks they had in 1973. That's what I'm asking.
Starting point is 02:06:09 My presumption is he was doing it mostly at the studio. I'll have to get Ron Burgundy on to figure that out. He's available on the Ron Burgundy podcast, and I heard radio. I have a question about the home run. Who were the guys on the field? Are those fans? Yeah, the fans just ran under the field. Okay.
Starting point is 02:06:25 That's crazy to think about. It is crazy. Yes, it is. That these fans, that multiple fans were able just to run onto the field, not be stopped and touch him and like try to celebrate with him. It's bizarre to see. Yeah, because what if somebody wanted to stab him or something? Like imagine if multiple fans try to do that today, it would be chaos.
Starting point is 02:06:46 Well, fans try to do it and they get their ass beat right now. Yeah. But usually it's like one guy. Like if after Altube hit that walk off last year against the Yankees, if there weren't the Nets and fans try to jump on the field to celebrate with Jose Altuve, There's not enough security to stop them, but it would be a madhouse. Well, you remember, do you know who Morgana is? Is that the heavy-chested lady?
Starting point is 02:07:10 The kissing bandit. Oh. She would get on the field to go kiss pitchers and catchers, and sometimes she'd try. She was this heavy-chested woman that would do the same sort of thing, and it was kind of a running gag. And it was all... And they just let it happen? Yeah, they did, and they obviously took her away and that kind of thing. But I don't know if Morgan was ever consistently arrested for it.
Starting point is 02:07:31 Very top-heavy. She was busty, as the kids would say. I think everything, do you know the moment in time where I think fan interaction and fan violence turned everything around? I think would have to be when Monica Seles got stabbed. And I think ever since that moment in time, the ability to let people get on the field and run around and do their thing and just say, oh, that's kind of goofy, is long gone. And didn't you have fans charged? Didn't they have like a nickel beer night at like Indians? game or something like that and the fans were charged in the field there too.
Starting point is 02:08:04 Well, they had disco night at the White Sox game in 1970, disco demolition night. And they brought people in between double headers to get on the field and destroy records. Well, they wound up being a massive chaos scene. The field was destroyed that they couldn't play the second game of the double header. I hear it is 10 cent beer night in Cleveland Stadium. Somehow that didn't turn out well.
Starting point is 02:08:25 That's true. But now, you know, in 2020, it's been this way probably for a decade when you guys, I mean, when a fan gets on the field, you're basically giving security free range to kick that guy's ass. Yeah. We're the players as well. Because here's the thing, we don't know what these people have, if they have something in their pocket or they're going to try to attack.
Starting point is 02:08:46 I mean, now, granted, you have to go through security, which is way more rigid than it was back then. But when I was growing up as a kid, it was, oh, that's funny, it's Morgana's out there. Or that's funny that those two guys are running with Hank Aaron. now it's those two guys would have been beaten up, tased, thrown against the wall, and maybe would have been put away for prison for 15 years. Like the Super Bowl we had here in Houston. Remember when the guy came out and looking like he was a referee and he stripped naked?
Starting point is 02:09:16 I don't remember that. Oh, yeah, that was the first Super Bowl here. In 2003? Yeah. That was a running gag. Now that's not, nobody's laughing at that stuff anymore. Because you know what? We're all bat-blank crazy.
Starting point is 02:09:28 I don't know how we got this down. road, but it is what it is. I think you're talking about those two guys. Yeah. All right, back to wrap it up. Final segment, the Matt Thomas show straight ahead. Do not go anywhere. 244 on Sports Talk 790. Rip it H-Town, light, by slamma jama. Yo, what's up? This you boy, Bumbeater Trill O.G. With the whitest man in America, Matt Thomas.
Starting point is 02:09:48 You are now tuned in to Sports Talk 790, man. All right, Gordy sends us strontomatic updates on the Astros. For those of you playing Strattomatic, the Astros beat the Mets. Was this today or yesterday? Let me see here. Today, 6-0-0, the Astros beat the Mets. Big days for Michael Brantley, two hits out of five. Two-for-four for Yaron Alvarez, two-for-four with Yuleiguriel.
Starting point is 02:10:31 Two-for-four for Abraham Toro playing third base today, giving Alex Bregman a day off. D-Hing, by the way, was Alvarez. Marcus Stroman, who is the newest Matt, went five and a third, give up eight hits, full runs, all of which were earned. He falls to O and three. The Astros with the win go to seven and five. That's surprising note number one,
Starting point is 02:10:54 because they would then be tied, according to Strattomatic, for second place in America League West, two and a half back of the A's. They'd be tied with the Rangers. Again, it's early, because the Astros had a lousy start last year. It didn't matter.
Starting point is 02:11:05 But how about this? You ready for this? you know who got the win for the Stros, Ross? Lance McCullors, which isn't a surprise, right? Lance wins games. Yeah. He's 2 and 1 on the year. E. area 4.86.
Starting point is 02:11:16 He must have gotten really roughed up in his previous appearances. Rossi, Stratomatic is full of crap because Lance McCullors threw a complete game. Only allowed one hit. How many pitches did he throw? He doesn't say. He walked four and struck out five. Lance McCullors is,
Starting point is 02:11:43 not going to throw a complete game, maybe ever. They don't know about, stratomatic doesn't know about any limits and coming off of Tommy John Matt. Well, then we can't trust stratomatic then. I'm not saying Lance McCann. I mean, how about this, boys? How many 85 pitch complete games
Starting point is 02:12:04 that have been in Major League history? With four walks and five strikeouts. Greg Maddox had one that was like 81 pitches. I was like, I'm sure Maddox has a handful. That's he's got a big answer. strike zone because Javier Lopez set him up that way. Probably, I would say more than we think, but not many since like 2000. Oh yeah, Greg Maddox had a 76 pitch complete game.
Starting point is 02:12:25 Okay. Who else? I don't know. I mean, I guess it's humanly possible that Lance McCuller's... Oh, there you go. In 19... Who could forget? In 1944, Red, Red Barrett beat the Cincinnati Reds giving up just two hits and 58 pitches.
Starting point is 02:12:44 That's the red legs. back then. Down at Crosby Field. Help me out with this, boys. Four walks, five strikeouts. The game was one hour and 15 minutes. His game. The Cincinnati Reds game.
Starting point is 02:12:57 Okay. In a tidy one hour and 15 minutes, Red Barrett destroyed the Cincinnati Reds. He only allowed one hit, so he got a bunch of people. I were talking about McCullors. One hit complete game? But with four walks.
Starting point is 02:13:12 He almost threw a no-no? It sets four walks times four. It's 16. pitches. If every one of the five strike has was just three, that's 15 plus 16. It's 31. He's got to get the other 22. I mean, I guess he could get a 75 pitch complete game. The last time a pitcher through a complete game under 80 pitches, Jordan Zimmerman threw 76 pitches and a loss for the Nationals against the Cardinals. Was that an eight inning, one of those eight inning jobs, complete game? No, because he, well, his team lost. So he had to be.
Starting point is 02:13:45 to go nine, right? No, because then you wouldn't have to pitch the ninth. If you're the away team. Yeah. His team lost. The Nationals lost to the Cardinals. But were they in St. Louis or in Washington? Oh, yes.
Starting point is 02:13:58 I guess it would be eight innings. Yeah. So, yeah. So screw you, Stratomatic. It's possible, Matt. Well, if Stratomatic has the Stones, let's find out, maybe Gordy can help me. He's best. If Red Barrett can do it.
Starting point is 02:14:11 Yeah, how many pitches did it throw up? I think it was a road game. I think the game was in New York. Okay, well, this one here, and Stratomatic says the game was at Minutton-May Park, because it would have been at Minutton. Oh, would have been at Minuteman? So he's got to go to 27. And we know the five of them are strikeouts.
Starting point is 02:14:26 So did he throw one pitch for the other 22 outs? Is Stratomatic doing seven-ending double-hatters? No, this is not. No, Stratomane doesn't know about a virus. Get it together, Stratomatic. Come on, Strato. You don't know about Tommy John surgery? Let's go.
Starting point is 02:14:41 Hi, Emmanuel. You're on 7-Odi. What's going on, friend? Hey, how's it going, Matt? I just wanted to give a little information on that 715 home run about Hank Aaron. Sure. A lot of people don't know is the outfielder that tried to reach over the fence and grab 715. It actually became really famous because something he didn't do later on in a Mets uniform.
Starting point is 02:15:09 Do you know who that is? That was actually a Red Sock uniform. You're talking about Bill Buckner, correct? Oh, yeah, Red Sox uniform. Bill Buckner, yeah. You knew I could get it past you. But a lot of people do not know. Yeah, that was actually Bill Buckner.
Starting point is 02:15:21 He was an outfielder for the Dodgers at the time. But, yeah, I just wanted to say thank you for bringing that up in the history of baseball because it's good to remember our history or we don't, we're doomed to repeat it, as they say, right? Yeah, that's right. You got that right. Thank you, Manuel, for the phone call. And by the way, we love Lance McCullors.
Starting point is 02:15:42 but Lance McCullors is going to be on a pitch count and if Lance McCullors throws a complete game at 75 pitches then yes he threw a complete game but even he knows he's not going to throw 100 pitches in a game this year he knows that you don't need to be getting all upset at stratomatic Matt they don't know I got somebody saying you hope Lance is what are you talking about Lance knows yeah he's on an ending's limit it's fine
Starting point is 02:16:08 no he's on a pitch limit what else is I mean a pitch limit yeah What else is happening in this stratomatic game? I don't know. Why is Miles Straw batting third? That's not true. Are you serious? Oh, he pinch ran, I guess. I was going to say that.
Starting point is 02:16:20 That is really crazy. This is accurate. Miles Straw pinch ran for Michael Brantley at some point. Did he get a stolen base? I don't know about that. No, look, we are huge Lance McCuller fans. Abraham Toro played third? We just know that.
Starting point is 02:16:37 Bregman had the day off. Yeah. I told you, Abraham Torrow got three hits. Or is Justin Verlanger would say, where is MF and Toro? Hmm. Interesting. So the Astros are seven and five through 12 games and two and a half out of the lead because the A's, the A's must have done some damage against the Stroes last week. No, Trey's only hitting 189 on the season.
Starting point is 02:16:58 Well, but he started, didn't he start off kind of sluggish too last year? He's done it a couple times, yeah. Bregman's a typical slow starter. Springer's hitting well. How's that rotation, by the way? See, we only get the Star Medics every once in a while. How's Josh James doing as a number four or five starter? What's a Jose Arcidi looking like right now?
Starting point is 02:17:22 Yeah, the Astros may be, will the Astros even throw a complete game this year? I mean, complete games are... Burland will do it. Well, if he's healthy. Well, now everything's changed because of the fact that he'll be starting at normal with everybody else, but he is healthy. It just seems kind of strange. For a team that's already got question marks in the back end of its rotation,
Starting point is 02:17:46 I can't imagine them being anything close to being top ten in complete games. Apparently, they're running these simulations every day at 1 o'clock. So should we do like 115 every day Astros Recap? Well, he's got to send it to us, but we want the pitch counts too. You can go to the website and you find it there. Oh, did you see the pitch count or no? I don't see a pitch count now. All right.
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