The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - The Matt Thomas Show: Texans Conference Call, Rudy T HOF, All Decade NFL Team

Episode Date: April 6, 2020

Lunchtime is So much larger than life Yeah Lunch Timers Is the Matt Thomas show What's happening in Lachetters? Good afternoon to you And welcome to a Monday edition

of the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 790 Capital N, capital E, capital V, E Capital Art, the Texans will never go to the Super Bowl with Bill O'Brien as their head coach. Ross, there is no such thing as a verbal double down until now. I am doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on this. Put some money on it, Matt. Put your name on it. Where can I put the money down?

I don't know. What kind of odds would I get? Can you short futures of the NFL? I don't think so. All right. Alongside Joe George, that's right. I'm Matt Thomas. Nice to have all of you with us here on this Monday edition of the radio program, where today we will discuss a good friend of the show, Rudy Tom Jadavich, making himself

the newest member of the Basketball Hall of Fame, probably five to ten years too late, but nevertheless he gets in. Congratulations on that. Some NFL news concerning a rule, a all-decade team that is out today. We also have news from the NBA, from one of its lead basketball reporters, which makes me feel not so great. Okay. Did anybody get injured in the 2K tournament? Is that what the news is on? That is not it. Okay.

And then we also have news on the Masters being rescheduled. The Masters. On CBS. Which means I'm going to have to wait five months to get into my broadcaster, master's voice. It's better than not doing it at all. It's true. It's true.

All right, you brought up the NBA 2K. By the way, I always feel like the first five minutes of the show should be, and Joe, you're not going to involve with this for the next couple weeks. You're going to tell the audience. audience, which you did for in terms of television watching. I did not get into, it's always Sunday in Philadelphia yet. You son of a gun. I know. It's my fault.

That's fine. But I watched, I felt like I watched the same NBA finals between the Celtics and the Lakers all weekend. Every time I turned on ESPN, they were on. 2008. 2010. There was a lot of Lakers Celtics this weekend. Too much of it. Oh, Matt, it's the biggest rival in the history of the NBA.

That's true. It doesn't mean I have to enjoy it. Okay. I watched that. I've been recording these NBA classic games. I saw a game between the L.A. Clippers, excuse me, the San Diego Clippers, and the Los Angeles Lakers. It was Magic Johnson's first game since coming out of college. I watched a lot of Game 7 of the 1995, eastern, I'm sorry, 1998 Eastern Conference Finals, the

matchup was. 98. Indiana's got to be involved somewhere, right? Yes. In Chicago. Of course. Okay. It was Indiana, New York was on this weekend from 94.

Indiana did not miss a shot at the beginning. Rick Smith, Dale Davis was putting in work, Matt, and Rick Smith was making fall away jumpers. Let me tell you, Indiana went to one NBA final, I think, during this whole run. Yeah, 2000, I believe. Yeah. I mean, they're not feeling great. I mean, they're now, well, we're always 48 and 34, and we'll be bouncing the

second round of the playoffs. And by the way, name a significant superstar free agent that's gone to Indiana. The answer is you can't. They trade for them. That's true. They move Paul George and all that for Oladipo and company. And they've done it's a bonus. It's done okay for them.

But the reality is no free agent is going to go to Indiana, just like 19 other NBA teams. Yeah, that's true. All right. So I did, as you mentioned, NBA 2K, I tried to give it five minutes. And in the world of television and remote controls, you get five minutes to get somebody. If you don't get them in five, you probably are never going to get them at all.

It was hard to watch. What game were you watching? I don't even remember. Kevin Harland's great voices in the background. Yes. And then you had these two guys that didn't even really, I don't even know who they were, didn't even really know how to play the game.

That's the thing. The idea wasn't bad. They could have executed a lot better. First of all, you could have gotten players that cared about the game. There are a number of players who do play a ton, so that's okay. but you have guys that don't really care about the game.

You have guys complaining about the game. You have the commentary of the actual game rather than having people commentate. Then during halftimes and breaks, you got this guy Ronnie 2K, who he's like a consultant for the video game. I don't even know what he does. But he's, I mean,

he's about as entertaining as a wet rag. And, I mean, it just, it could have been pulled off a lot better. They just kind of slapped it together and said, we have to turn something on. And I get that. But to me, the idea wasn't that bad. The execution was horrible.

I watched probably in total five minutes on Friday and maybe like 10 minutes on Sunday. So you gave it 10 more than I did. The most interesting thing for me to watch on television this weekend was not involving sports. It was the Tricia Yearwood, Garth Brooks, hour of them singing in their studio. Oh, I didn't. How was that? It was fine. Did the thunder roll?

And the lightning did strike. Okay. I'm not even a huge country. music fan. But I enjoyed them singing songs. They were singing their own hits. They were singing other songs, covers of other people. They did their... Are they married or something? They had been for quite some time. Oh, okay. Yeah. And they had their two people. Congratulations. I mean, actually, you congratulate for staying married for as long as they have. But they had these two employees of theirs. They were like, oh, that was, they were in the background. Like,

their producers or their social media. They were coordinating with CBS because this was live. apparently, or at least some point was live. And they're like, can y'all sing this song? The fans really want to hear this. It was these two oafs in the background that were just like, oh, y'all are so great. Could you imagine if one of like their two producers that are in their studio are saying, man, and the Thunder Rolls, you sucked, Garth.

Friends and little places, it sounds like you mailed that song in. No, they were just loving on it. But nevertheless, it was good to hear something different. Again, I spent 80% of my weekend watching reruns of Lakers in South games. Okay. Yeah. I watch some classic basketball and...

Joseph, welcome to the midday show, by the way. He's been on here before. It's been a while. It's been a while. Yeah. It's been a couple months. You know what? I'm kind of sad that we don't have believe it or not to play anymore because

hearing you attempt to play the sound bites. Hold up. Believe it or not went okay last time. It actually did okay. Now, the first time you call for the one of the buttons, nothing happened. It took like 20 seconds. Once I could remember when the buttons were, we were okay. When normalcy comes back, I want.

Nick to take some more time off. I don't want you to come in, do believe it or not. We can do that. But until we don't get normalcy, it is what it is. All right. So let's get to Bill O'Brien. First of all, congratulations the Texans for doing yet another news dump. If there is an organization in sports that knows how to play the 3 p.m. Friday card better than anybody else, it's the Houston.

Yes, absolutely correct. They are the Friday news dump of the NFL. And they knew it. They knew that we were going to find out a way to record. it. I mean, and we knew we were going to play it and we were going to, you know, dissect it like nobody's business. And the fact of the matter is, this is a way for them to come to us and say, well, we did talk to the most important people. You know, we always say media always says, we're the conduit to the fans. Well, the Texas just said basically, we don't need you conduit.

We're going to talk directly to our season ticket holders. We're going straight to the fans, with whichever ones will pick up their phones still. Well, I don't even know how much, we have no idea how many people did it. We would have no clue. If you're a Texan season ticket holder, I listened to the call as it happened. My friend Joan sent me clips of it as well. But if you were a Texan season ticket holder and you were on that call, what did you think as you were listening to it? If you were not a season ticket holder, then clearly the Texans don't care about you. They just want to make sure that the season ticket holders are taken care of. Because in theory, you could have opened this up to anybody that wanted to listen.

I mean, I feel like technology is in a point where you could have put it on the web. Maybe. Yeah, if you could have streamed it on Houston, Texas.com. There's no reason why hundreds of thousands of people could have listened to it. And that's where our job is, because media is a way to expand the opportunity to see to other people or hear it. We heard Jack Eastbury for the first time. He was exactly what I thought he was going to be.

A bunch of generic stuff, a bunch of motivational crap. You know what he reminds me of? And I don't know him at all. and because they've made no attempt for us to get to know him, and I don't really care at this point. He's, I think he was just an Uber smart guy. He still is probably,

who became a fanboy of an organization that came in with a purpose, meaning he was, what was he, the deacon, now the deacon, the chaplain of the Patriots. And slash character coach. Whatever. And so he was able to take that line along the way and go,

you know what, I think I can work my way in the room. He's got no football background. He doesn't know. And I've been trying to, figured this out all weekend. He doesn't know any more about free agency or the draft than you and I do. It would be like, in all honesty, Jeff, not Jeff Linole, um, Daryl Morris saying, Matt, you're a really good motivational speaker. I've heard you. I would like to hire you on my staff as director

of motivational speaking. And then because Darrell likes motivational speaking so much, hey Matt, why don't you go scouts and people in Europe? It was, it is a puzzling rise from Jack Easterby, nine years ago being a chaplain to now being the, what is the executive vice president of football operations or whatever. He probably has tremendous leadership capabilities, but they don't need leadership capabilities. They need smart people that have been around the sport of football for a long period of time. He does have a daughter named Houston. That's indifferent to me. So he's on the call doing this, you know, we're proud of our guys. I don't want to play this soundbites because it's just, I was asking to hear from Easterby,

and yet I don't want to hear from me anymore, because I know who he is. He's just really smart guy who was able to hoodwink his way up the football depth chart, despite not having any football background at all. His resume includes spiritual accountability initiatives, keynote speaking, a church and community events,

character coach, chaplain. I could do all that. I would like to be an assistant general manager for a major league baseball team or basketball team. or basketball team. Well, you need to ingratiate yourself and Brown knows Bill O'Brien. Bill O'Brien had awful comments,

but there is one soundbite of the entire weekend that pissed me off more than any others. And you'll hear it next. 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-790. If you are on that conference call, or not even a conference call,

because conference calls allow you to hear it, right? it's more of a dial-in hotline thing and we'll let you hear um we'll give you the great opportunity to listen to the words of wisdom because we're doing things right and i guarantee you someone told me that uh it's very close to situation i promise you when the conference call whatever you want to call it was over with yesterday easterby mcnerr and o'brien on friday were high-five each other saying man we nailed this there was one quote that i'll never get passed from that friday conference call. You'll hear it coming up. 713-212-5-790. The pandemic continues. The no-dam

sports pandemic. I'm not leaving my house. Luckily, the most infectious lineup in Houston sports continues. Now, here's masked, rubber-gloved, but still Jesus-sandled, Matt Thomas. Sanitize those toes, would you? You don't know where they've been. Brutal. Oh, hi. 1218 on the Matt Thomas show. Close clean, Maddie. Thank you. You know, they say the virus can linger on your shoes.

How about the tigers getting the corona? Oh, in the New York, in the Bronx Zoo? Yeah. And then somehow everybody making that about Joe Exotic. He's quarantined or does he have it? No, he's in prison. He is quarantined in prison with the coronavirus. By the way, are they drop in another episode?

Apparently they are. They are. There's going to be another episode coming out this week. And who produced it? I think Netflix did. But on what? Well, it better be better than episode six and seven, by the way. I didn't enjoy the end of the season.

I mean, the end of the series. Yeah, one to five was... Really good. On the edge of your seat, six and seven... You just kind of got sad. By the way, I don't want to jinx anything. Uh-oh. By making some positive progress...

On getting Carol Baskin on? No. With my Ozark affinity. Joe, you watch Ozark? I do not. Well, I've done nothing for you. And since you have not seen episode three yet, I apparently am not going to be able to get Jason Bateman on the show.

Apparently, hashtag very busy. But. With what? Well, I mean, they're not filming anything. Yeah. I mean, these people are not even going on Colbert and on Jimmy Kimmel. Why are they going to go a major market midday radio show? But I am progressing with some other aspects of the show.

And I don't want to give away anything because I don't want to not have this person show up when I think he's going to. So just know that for those of you that are Ozark fans, I'm not giving up on the dreams and hopes of having somebody associated with a show on the radio program. All right. Before we start talking to you guys and we'd love to visit with you guys and gals, or as Carol would say, you cool cats and kittens, 713, 21, 2, 570 if you want to get in. 713, 2, 1,2, 5, 790. So, Ross, you and I were off the air at 3 o'clock on Friday when the teleconference started. Well, for this show, yes. For this show.

I did do a show after. And so I went and listened to the conference call because we were able to get the number. And O'Brien said his thing about ignore the noise and about the off-season acquisitions and how much he loved DeAndre. But they just couldn't, you know, DeAndre wanted to raise. I mean, just all the stuff that we had thought. But here's the one comment. that blew me away, and it comes from your owner. He was asked about DeAndre and never mentions DeAndre by name.

By the way, if you, and you too can't have listened to this thing by since. And I feel like they've shaded DeAndre the entire press conference. I mean, one reference to DeAndre seems like veiled shots, yes. Not, is veiled meaning, no, they were. We weren't direct shots. You know, direct would be mentioning them by name. Yeah, that's even worse. now that people have to read between the lines.

If you didn't like him, just say you didn't like him, which clearly did not. DeAndre sucked. So Cal McNair, this is the quote that I don't know if I'll ever get past. He was asked about the organization making this type of deal to move, clearly their second or third greatest player ever to play for the franchise onto Arizona. It's important that it is the focus is the team. And I would think as a fan, I would be really excited. that your leadership of the team can make bold moves and go out and do these things to make the team better and take these next steps that we're all looking forward to.

So it's an exciting time for us. What a dope. It's an exciting time, Matt. Bold moves. What a freaking dope. Do you understand why I've never been able to embrace this organization? Because you hate Torah? No, Toro should have been in the team.

If they had to call the team name like Bob Mnard and I wanted to back in 2000, maybe we'd have a different story. It's because of the ownership. I mean, embrace these and be happy that the Texans were able to get 20 cents on the dollar for their number two or three best player ever. It was a great deal if you listen to Bill O'Brien, which we have that as well. We're excited about this. I mean, I don't mean to speak for him, but I'm going to. Cal McNair thinks all of you are idiots. Really? It's just a reality of it.

Look, you know what? Yeah, I guess so. Tellman Fertita and Jim Crane are taking, get a lot of criticism. A lot. Especially recently. And especially most recently. Obviously, the cheating scandal and the Tillman situation with the organization and luxury. I mean, no owner is a void of criticism.

But I just, that quote, I was like how, you know, because I wrestle with this all the time. Because if you're a fan of a team, you're going to give the benefit for the doubt. I give the benefit for the doubt to the Rockets and the Astros a lot more because I'm a fan of their teams and have been since I was seven years old. Well, and both of those, you never doubt that Jim Crane's trying to do everything he can to win. You never doubt that Thelman Fertita and before him, Les Alexander was, Les Alexander, a notorious star chaser. Tillman for Tita, same thing. He wants to win. He talks about it all the time.

You do have that doubt with Robert C. and now Cal. I just, I'm sad. And I, you know, I'm sad for people that spend their hard-earned money to go see a team that just at the end of the day, what they think is winning and becoming a champion is not accepted, nor is shared by the thoughts of 31. on NFL teams.

There is not going to be a trade that it's going to be that may not be more lopsided in the history of this franchise than what we just had about a month ago. Yeah. And it's funny. The funny part to me, Matt, is that they even had to call this. I mean, this is the first, how long have you been doing the show for a decade, right? Have we ever heard of them having basically a town hall meeting with, with, I mean, maybe it's happened before, I don't know, with season ticket holders and trying to rally the

troops. This was like your stock tanking in the in the whatever company, Corporation X, and their stock takes a huge tumble and a dive and you get all the shareholders on the phone and you say, hey, everything's going to be okay. We're doing all these new innovative things. Here's our CEO. Here's his executive vice president. They're going to tell you about how all these great things are doing and you shouldn't panic. That's basically what was happening. And I'm curious, and this is just speculation on our part, would they have done it if we didn't have a regular, if we were back in regular life. They wouldn't have done it if they didn't make this stupid trade.

Yeah. But Bill O'Brien is hiding for the media. And now he can say, well, you guys got your quotes anyway. But to put Cal out there, I mean, listen to this again. Just let this sink in. I know you've heard it for the 30th time, but it's just going to make you matter on the 31st, because here it comes. It's important that it is the focus is the team.

And I would think as a fan, I would be really excited that your leadership of the team can make bold moves and go out and do these things to make the team better and take these next steps that we're all looking forward to. So it's an exciting time for us. And this whole thought of it being for the team. So you're telling me 31 other NFL teams don't make decisions in the best interest of the team that they're out on this island by themselves.

What a load of crap. You can think you're making a decision. with the best interest of the team. Every move that every team makes thinks they're doing that. That doesn't mean every move is good. Tell me a name of a team that's made a trade that wasn't in the best interest of the team. They're like, we are trying. Well, that's, well, when the team is tanking.

But even then, they think it's the best long-term interests of the team to tank. Yeah. Every deal that is a player signed, a player drafted, a player acquired through a trade, a free agent pickup. It's all because of the team. Capital T, capital E, capital A, capital M. I'm trying to equate, I need a great example of, again, they're using false. Wow.

It's propaganda? What do you mean? It's just illogical thinking behind. I mean, it was such an obvious thing. Oh, I mean, it would be like this. I have to eat. I have to eat fruits and vegetables and proteins and carbs. because if I don't eat, I will die.

So everything I ingest is for my living, capital L, capital I, capital V, capital I, capital N, capital G. Okay. It's like stating the obvious. Right. To try to justify what they did. So if somebody has a conference call, well, I'm glad you're doing this for the team. Dude, the Buffalo Bills get Stefan Diggs because it was in the best interest of

Stefan Diggs and they did the best interest of the team. it was just the most illogical way to defend an ass and I move and then Cal's like I'd be so excited that my team was bold enough to trade a premier number two receiver in the NFL

one or two for David Johnson who's wrist hurt and oh by the way has not cleared a physical yet yeah maybe this will all get reversed man I mean, it's just awful, awful, awful. David and Matt will start with you. The rest of you come on in. And by the way, we do have some news from pro football talk about that trade.

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We've still got some news on the NFL to pass along. Ross, we'll get to that about the physical in just a couple of seconds. We've got some folks that want to talk. So let's get to them because we do believe that you guys are taking some time. of your day for us. It means a lot to us, and we want to make sure that we get to those phones. 713-212-5-790. We'll start with David on the west side on 790. David, good afternoon. Hey, good afternoon, Matt and Ross. Yes, like Bud Adams never last. I mean, that comment is similar to when Steve Patterson said Buck Johnson is untouchable. I recall back in the late 80s.

Yeah, Ross you mailed it as far as being a stock. The stock of this organization, and I agree with you, Matt, I've never been able to pick up with the Texans like I did with the order. Should I directly? I'm a little older than you are. Yeah. Similar to, you know, similar to the movie the Big Short where the stockbrokers telling everybody to buy during the mortgage amount. And I just, it's just crazy how tone death they are. But I had another question, though, Matt.

As far as the Rockstone, NBA in general, do you believe that one of the reasons that they may not be able to pick up is because? just the injuries that might ensue because they are finally tuned athletes and they've been off now for, it's going to at least be two months. Just your comments about that. I'll hang with them with a list.

Thank you, David. Matter of fact, we'll play a Brian Winhorse comment. I don't think Ross, and we'll get your thought too. I don't think it has to do with injuries or being away from the game because they'll just have a little mini training camp.

They'll play four, if they play a season, they'll play four or five games to get back into shape. I don't think that's even on the radar for them. I think the issue is we don't have the clearance from this country to assemble hundreds of people in the same building, much less a crowd. There's no easy way to do it responsibly and without putting people in danger. I mean, putting people's lives in danger. Seriously, that's just the way it is. That's the reality of it. Yeah. Here's Brian Winhorst on ESPN this morning. And again, he's just one reporter. but you would have to say Brian's pretty well connected.

I would say so, yes. It doesn't mean that he called 30 NBA teams to get this general opinion. He may be going off a two or three. But Brian Winhorse, sounding more and more pessimistic by the day, here is what he had to say this morning on the SBN. Greeny, I wish I had some better news, but the pessimism is really growing.

The reality is taking hold, and it's really manifested itself in the talks that the owners are currently having with the players. And the reason they're talking is because they've got to decide to do with the salaries that they have coming due to the rest of this calendar year. And the way the owners are negotiating, what they're asking for is essentially to build a fund that would help shelter the losses for a loss season. I guess you could sum it up by saying they're preparing for the worst, hoping for the best. It doesn't mean that they're going to push the button and say cancel anytime soon. But it's very clear that from a financial standpoint, that's what they're looking at.

And the talks that are happening with the players, Greenie, none of them are about restarting. They're all about dealing with the financial situation. It's really depressing. And the thing is, and I know that President Trump had a call with the commissioners over the weekend, I didn't hear anything out of that call. Maybe it was just kept secret about testing. I'm going to say this very clearly.

Testing, testing, testing. Forget about fans and arenas. Forget about bubbles. The only way this is happening is with mass testing that is available, political free where you don't have to worry about taking it away from somebody who needs it, and you can get quick results. Until there's testing, everything that we're talking about here is pie in the sky. That's the reality that has shown us in Asia.

That's the reality the NBA has. Basically, the players, the coaches, the trainers, the stat crew, the broadcasters, the doctors, anybody that would be in the arena that would be considered essential. you're still talking about 150 people? Yes. Security. 150. What are the chances of 150 people in a city, all testing negatively, and then taking the traveling party of, say, 40 coaches, trainers, doctors, whatever, to another city and testing again of another group 150, will be doing 150.

I mean, we've got to get to that point someday. We'll never have sports again. But in the next three months, I don't know. It's a lot, yeah. That's why I'm very scared. The more you think about it, the more you think of this is just going to be really difficult to execute and keep everyone safe. With everyone's health in mind, because health, everybody, the nation, the health of the nation is more important in sports, which it sucks because we love sports. The number one thing we've got to get going here, first of all, if we're talking about it,

revving things up again. We've got to get our economy back going again. We have got that. And we're not trying to get all political on, but we've got to figure out a way to get our restaurants, our bars, our movie theaters, our workouts. I mean, anybody that's been shut down. We've got to get this country going back then. I mean, I love sports. I've been around sports my entire life. I'll be to the day I die. But we've got to get everybody back. We've got to get freeways busy. It took me today. 36 minutes to go from my house into back at Kingwood to here at 2000 West Loop South. I don't know. How long does it normally take? Probably 48 coming and probably an hour and five to hour, 10 back. Yeah, it's not good. That's a lot of Paul McCartney on that drive. A lot of A team, Adam Clanton and Adam Wex are three to six.

Here on Sports Talk 790. And maybe even 18. Maybe even the, what do you call your show? The GitterDone show? Why would I call it? The Larry Cable Fun Hour? Larry the Cable Guy. The Post Show Show?

That would be fun. My point is this. The Post-A-Team Show. That to me, as I've become more of a news connoisseur than I ever thought I ever before, I've watched more local news. I can't watch the national stuff because it just drives me crazy. The local stuff leaves gives me a little perspective on this. But, yeah, we need our businesses back. That to me is more important in sports.

I know sports would be great for us because we mess it watching it. but if we can get our businesses going and get some normalcy back and get something going, then maybe we can live without sports for a little while. I don't want to say that, but it's just the reality. Like college football is thinking about maybe pushing back to the spring of 2021. What? Yeah. What?

Think about this. I know you don't want to hear this, but it's the truth. College football would be the easiest sport to move because 99% of them playing in their own stadiums. You don't have to worry about dates. TDCU Stadium can be for University of Houston. Darrell K. Roy. What if the XFL's in there? Please.

Darrell K. for Austin. Kyle Field. You don't fight for dates. That's true. When you have arenas, you're fighting with hockey teams and concerts. Concerts. And circuses and all the kinds. I mean, you're just, you know, college football doesn't have to worry about dates.

We can't rush this. As crazy as I never thought I would say this 60 days ago. Yeah, when the first stuff was coming out, we thought maybe by April 1st that sports would be back. Let's go to Matt and Bel Air on 790 and 1240. Hi, Matt. Hey, what's up, guys? Hi.

So I've been watching a lot of dirty money the past couple weeks because I don't have anything else to do. Sure. And Ross's analogy on the stock, the stock's falling and the meetings was spot on because these companies, their stock starts falling and they have these meetings. They're like, everything's okay. It's going to rise back up.

And then a few months later, these upper management people are fired because their stock is at an all-time low. Well, you look at Texans, their stock is falling. But the problem is we're going to be stuck with this upper management group for years to come until it absolutely plummeted out. I wouldn't buy the stock. I would just let it pass. Matt, how vested are you?

you in the organization? I mean, I'm 24 years old, so I've been a fan since they came into inception. So, I mean, pretty invested, although, like, this move, I was very upset. Just not even the fact that, like, they trade a D-Hop. Like, teams trade good players all the time, but it just seems like there was such a lack of understanding on, like, either the value or. The organization just doesn't know how football works. I don't know.

But it's just not a good situation for the organization or for the city or for the fans at all. Yeah, I can't argue the point. I can't say, well, think about this. No, what they're going to do, and thank you for the phone call. They're fortunate that they're in a very mediocre division. The Colts, I mean, I don't think that anybody's thinking that Philip Rivers is going to take the Colts to the next level. Garner, Minchew, still the quarterback in Jackson. Who? Garner Minchew. And Ryan Tannahill has a huge bull's eye on his chest.

That's got, I mean, that's got Matt Flynn, et cetera, Brock Osweiler, who else? I mean, quarterbacks who had a flash in the pan comeback season. I don't think it's going to put it this way. I don't think it's going to take 12 wins to win the division. Could be 11, could be as little as nine. Who knows? It's been nine twice. And the fact of the matter is you have an extra wild card. So there's no reason why the Texans can't be in the mix for this. but if the end game for you is this move based on the fringe decisions they've made and the draft picks they've given up is going to take them one step closer to the Super Bowl, you're nuts.

The only people that believe that Ross are on Kirby. Nobody else believes it. Nobody. Because you know what? No one gets to go into Kirby unless you drink the Kool-Aid. You can't go in. Who has ever gone into the Texans front office, led by Bill O'Brien and Jack Easterby, and send something to the contrary

and let the tell about it in terms of, well, that makes a lot of sense. They have a lot of, you know what, you know, Bill O'Brien always talks about they have a lot of communications.

They talk a lot of days. It's because he surrounds him with yesmen. Brian Gain was not a yes man to Bill O'Brien. Gone. Rick Smith, even though I never thought it was a great general manager, was clearly not a yes man to Bill O'Brien. He's gone.

And Cal soaks it up. Like, I think this guy went to Brown, smart guy, Patriots, coaching tree. Big burly chat. Ruh,

Ruh, Roh, I'm going to run around here and tell you how tough I am and how MFU if I, if you don't, you know, how those guys are game out of respect. You just must be a master manipulator or something.

I don't know. I don't know what Bill O'Brien, what quality he has that has allowed this. And I'm waiting. But he's got it. He's got it in spades. And frankly, what he's also done is he's,

and because people are worried about keeping their jobs, there are a lot of people that probably would like to say, that guy's an a-hole, but I need my job. And the Texans, to their credit, have not furloughed or laid people off. So credit, we're credit to do. They did want to start, they'd start off the conference call talking about that. So if you go out and say, well, I'm going to go tell this person, what a bad person, they're going to lose her job. Nobody wants to lose her job right now.

1245, it's a man, nobody wants to lose her job right now. 1245, it's a Matt Thomas show. 713-1-2-1-790. Ross details on that. Pro Football Talk Report about the physical still holding up the DeAndre Hopkins trade with Arizona. We'll tell you about that next here on Sports Talk 790. With masks, a case of Lysol, and fruit-flavored hand sanitizer. Mmm, peach.

Wait a minute. No watermelon. Ah, Granny Smith, Apple. Yep. The Houston Sports Talk continues on Sports Talk 790. All right, pro football talk Ross had a report. That hasn't been hidden, but it just got to flirt up again this weekend about the fact that the Cardinals, Texas Street has not been finished. Yes, it is not official.

According to Mike Floreo, David Johnson has had a preliminary physical performed on his wrist, which was injured in 2017. He passed that portion of the physical, despite reduced range of motion that initially caused the doctor to hesitate. but David Johnson still has to take physical for the rest of his body. If Johnson or Hopkins fail physicals, the trade would be off. So there you go. Well, DeAndre, as you say that, we're not trying to say, well, there's always a chance. No, they will reconfigure the trade. So you're telling me there's a chance.

Probably. Here's the weird part of it. When is the draft, Ross? In three weeks, two weeks, two and a half weeks. Two and a half weeks. and the Texans got a second round pick and swapped fourths because of this. Yes. What do you do with that trade if it ultimately fails on both ends and you've already had the draft?

I don't know. They've got to figure this out pretty quickly. You've got to imagine that they will. I mean, I don't know what the logistics are behind that, but you can't have a draft. You can't involve a trade involving draft picks if they're really not yours yet. can you just call the Cardinals and when they're on the board and say, hey, this is who we're going to want? Well, what if... Because the NBA teams do that.

But what if you can't bring David John? What if David Johnson flat out fails a physical? The Texans don't want a player over here and pay them all that money if he's going to be hurt for all season. He wouldn't be breaking news that he's going to be hurt, right? You get my drift, though. Yeah. And by the way, this whole thought of, well, we couldn't, you know, I'll let Bill O'Brien say it. Go ahead, Billy.

Here's Bill O'Brien about why DeAndre Hobbker. isn't here? I would say the deal with Arizona was a deal that we felt was in the best interest of our team. DeAndre Hopkins is a great football player here. He made so many plays for us. We love DeAndre Hopkins. But he had three years left on a deal, and he wanted a raise. And we weren't going to be able to go in that direction.

We felt like we had a great offer from Arizona that involved picks and involved an excellent three-down running back, who is hungry and humble and just can't wait to get started. David Johnson is going to be a great addition to our football team. There's a lot of things that go into trades, a lot of thoughts that go in. How much are you going to take on contractually? How much does it take to buy that second round pick, that number 40 pick? You know, what type of player are you bringing in? What type of player are you losing?

And what is in the best interest of the team? capital P, capital E, capital A, capital M. Every decision we make, as long as I'm the head football coach here, will always be made in the best interest of the T. When Gary Kubiak was coached in the Texans, Ross, did every move he made was it in the best interest of the team? It was the best interest of Gary, capital G, capital A, capital R, capital Y. When Tom Landry coached the Cowboys, when he would make moves,

was it in the best interest of the team? Well, I will say this, though. Bill O'Brien might be making moves that aren't in the best interest of the team. They're in the best interest of what he thinks and his ego. You know what he should have said? When I make a trade, I'm making the best interest of an O, apostrophe, B, capital B, R. Oh, hell, you know how to spell my name. Leave me alone.

That's what he does. It's not about the team. Because the team right now is not as good as it was before. and I'm like a broken record. Maybe they're better because DeAnder Hopkins is not ruining the locker room and he's not setting a precedent for getting paid with three years left on his deal and those types of things. In his mind, Bill O'Brien believes what he did was the right move.

Of course he does. By the way, Andre Johnson cuts Joe George are in our system. When did these come in and who are they from and who talked to whom? Not sure. I'll text Adam Sanger and find out. We'll play him anyway, right? Sure. Because I mean...

Was he like on an Instagram live or something? There are three cuts about here. Here's Andre talking about how excited that DeAndre is about being an Arizona Cardinal. Yeah, he's excited about it. You know, I think him being happy to play alongside Larry and then be able to have, you know, to play with Colin Murray. So he's very excited about him. There you go. Well, Andre's never been an excitable one.

Yep, that's true. All right. Now, Ross, I'm going to have, we're going to play a little impromptu. What you're talking about Andre Johnson? What did you talk about Andre? It's 43.6 seconds. Wow. This is the longest he's talked in media history. It's on the Hopkins trade in his relationship with OB.

What do you think Andre Johnson would say? I have no clue. That's what's a great question. This is a, I'll even do it with you because I haven't heard it either. Okay. I think he's going to say something like... I'll say they had a good relationship. I'll say that D'Andre enjoyed playing in Houston,

that maybe the relationship strain was overblown between what people were saying and what it really was, and that there was just a mutual disagreement about D'Andre's financial value to the team. And sometimes if you have impasses, you've got to make moves. This was a tough decision, but the one that the Texans ultimately had to make. I'll say he'll say Bill O'Brien is a good guy and a good coach and he's going to talk about how it's a business. And this was a business thing and this happens and this is part of life in the NFL. So you and I both agree it's part of the business of the NFL. This is Andre Johnson from the Pat McAfee show on Hopkins and his relationship with OB.

I really don't know personally why the decision was made. those are out of my control. But just dealing with Bill on a day-to-day basis, I mean, Bill is a great guy. You know, everybody has their opinions, and, you know, they look at, you know, certain things because of, you know, what happened during trades and things like that.

But I only can't go off my relationship with Bill. And the relationship may and him have is fine. It's, you know, we're very, you know, if I need to be. you to communicate something to them. I go up to them. Tell them how I feel what I think about it. And, you know, we just go from there. So, you know, the relationship I have

with him is good. It's good. There you go. Didn't really give much insight into my, he gave no insight. Yeah, I mean, if he didn't know, he said he can't really speak to it. He knows. DeAndrereys called to Andre. Yeah, he said he's happy to be with Larry Fitz and

Kyler. And that Andre has also gotten a phone call from Bill. Probably. And Andre Johnson wants to stay in the good grace of the organization because doesn't Andre like a de facto assistant to the assistant head coach? Yeah, he's kind of an assistant. He's on the, he's on the sideline. I mean, it is what it is.

And what he said right there didn't provide any insight except the fact that special advisor to Bill O'Brien. That he wants to keep a good, he wants to keep that relationship alive. That if he would have crushed Bill O'Brien that there would have been no more special assistant. Well, if he didn't like Bill O'Brien, he wouldn't be a special assistant. I wouldn't think. Yes, right.

So he didn't have, well, maybe he doesn't want to crush him. We can't assume he wants to crush O'Brien over this. No, I'm saying we can't assume, but he was not going to do it at all. It wasn't going to happen. Right. I thought it, I thought he was talking about what D'Andre thought of Bill O'Brien. So that's why I was a little confused by that. No, D'I, Andre Johnson likes Bill O'Brien. That doesn't come in any sense.

You have to imagine, yes. But let me tell you something. If Bill O'Brien isn't like you, you're not as a specific. special assistant. You're on the curb with Brian Gain. You're out there with Rick Smith. You're not on the sidelines wearing Texan gear getting to eat the nice food on the plane. No chance. I like how that's where fancy Matt's mind went. Well, I mean, they do travel well. Imagine, I mean, JJ Watts's not going to sit in coach. Of course not. Could he even fit in a coach seat? Poor Miami Fairburne is going to sit in the middle seat. Yeah, that's true. It'll be fine.

Yeah, who are the middle-seaters on the Texans play? Is Wes Welker still on the staff? No. It would be Wes. It would be Kaimi. But name the players. I mean... It would be Kevin Johnson back in the day.

Kevin Johnson's down the team anymore. I'm not worried about 2016's playing. I'm looking about 2020-2020's playing. That is crazy. Kiki for sure. Kiki, that's a good one. He doesn't even travel much. That's true.

Yeah. He's an active... Is Wolf Fuller when he plays? Is he a middle-seater? No, he's got to be on his own because he might get hurt by being. touched. But if somebody like bumps his elbow on the armrest, he's going to tear his elbow ligaments,

he's going to need Tommy John. Actually, what they do on NFL planes. On NFL planes, they separate them by, they usually leave the middle seat alone. So not that I've been on an NFL plane, but that's what I presume is what the case may be. All right, let's get the second hour started. The NFL has their all-decade team out for 2010 to 2019.

How many Texans are on their sports RV? Don't say that. Seven. That's not true. We'll run through a quick list and give you more thoughts about everything that happened with that ridiculous town hall conference call, whatever you want to call it, as the Texans propaganda machine continues. And again, Cal McNair wants you to appreciate the bold moves the organization is making in order for them to get better. The Shell Federal Credit Union is I want to talk to you about them right now. A great organization have been around since the 1930s, taking care of the needs of Houston in both good times and in bad.

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says maybe that's why they can't get the deal done with Tonsley is holding on for an aisle seat. Could be the final sticking point of a contract, Matt. Because they fly 767. Okay. So there's probably what? Explain that to me like I'm five. Well, there's different size planes. There's 737, 737, 767's.

The bigger than the number, the bigger the plane? Typically, yeah. 767's probably have 250 seats. Okay. You know way too much about this, but go ahead. Well, I've been flying. I'm also a travel fan. Okay, so you have probably...

An aviation enthusiast? I am. 31st class seats. Okay. And 220 coach. So let's break this down like a bottom. Oh, so Tunsel wants a first class seat then. That's what I'm trying to think of.

31st class, 230, and then of the 230, that's four per row. You've got 56 players, right? 55 players, give or take? Ish. 55. So you've got to take four, it's about, let's say 20 rows for the players. If you're doing them aisle, window, aisle window, and no middle seat. Yeah, that's what he wants.

He wants a first, he wants a first, he wants a first, class upgrade. Hmm. So the Texan said $18.5 million in a middle seat. And then he said $22 million in an aisle seat. Yeah, he's like... Maybe he's a window guy. Yeah, that's true.

Or maybe he wants Economy Plus at the bare minimum. One of the big legroom seats? Yeah, the bigger leg room. Okay. Because there's no way DeAndre Carter is getting an Economy Plus seat. Probably not. Is he even on the plane? Well, he makes half the truth.

You can go ahead and bicycle your way in. Depends on when he's active or not. Right. Okay. Let's go through the list. The NFL has announced their 2010 to 2019 all decade players. That's right. Let me run through the list very quickly on the NFC side first.

This is regardless of conference. Defensive players, Callais Campbell, Cameron Jordan, Julius Peppers, J.J. Watt, one of the four defensive ends. He was the unanimous selection. Peppers was he was a 2002 draft he made the decade team in 2010 Oh yeah Julia's Peppers is going to play to he's 51 years old

By way he could have been the very first pick of the Houston Texans Yeah that's what I'm thinking of it well yeah he didn't play last year Yeah He wasn't even I don't know about Peppers I don't know exactly who to put over him Yeah I'm not I'm not defensive end

My depth charts not limited on that one Defensive tackles Gino Atkins, Fletcher Cox, Aaron Donald. Donald was unanimous. Of course. Nademone Sue on that line, despite the fact he's footstopped, half his players run the league. Well, and footstopped half the players. Okay, 25%.

Just a couple of them. Linebackers. Chandler Jones, Luke Keeckley, Khalil Mack, Von Miller, Bobby Wagner, Patrick Willis, Miller, unanimous. Who was the first one? Chandler Jones. Okay. And who was the unanimous?

Von Miller. Yeah. Okay. cornerbacks Patrick Peterson Dereau Revis Richard Sherman Those are the three corners Only three corners

They're playing nickel Then they have three safeties Eric Barry Eric Thomas and Eric Weddle Weddell I called his games A senior year in college at Utah And then he has two Earl Thomas

Earl Thomas and Eric Weddell Yeah I called Weddell's games The final year No you said Eric Thomas Oh sorry Eric Barry Eric Barry, Earl Thomas, Eric Weddle. A lot of Erics.

A lot of Earls. The two defensive backs. People are not named Earl in 2020. No, how many Earls do you know? How many three-year-olds are running around? What is your name, little boy? My name's Earl. A little Earl.

Two defensive backs, Chris Harris Jr. and Tyron Matthew. So there's a Texan there in that mix. I kind of. Kind of a Texan. One-year Texan. Specialist Johnny Hecker and Shane Leckler are punters. Oh, okay. Johnny Hecker? Why don't I even know that name?

H-E-K-K-E-R. Rams? Yeah. I was thinking Jets, but thinking Rams is right. I don't even know who that is. Two kickers, Stephen Gaskowski and Justin Tucker, duh. Yeah, of course. Another Longhorn great.

Punt returner, Darren Sprouls. Kick returners, Cordell Patterson, and Devin Hester. Okay. Let me go to the offense. Matt Schob. Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers. Brady, Rogers. Yep.

That's it. Brady Unanimous. That's it. Ooh. Who are you missing? Peyton Manning? Breeze? Yeah, where's Breeze on this?

Ooh, how does Breeze not make it? Hmm. Maybe they just, they had to keep it to two, I guess. I probably do pick Brady and Rogers if I'm picking two. Well, Brady's one is guaranteed. Manning retired, what, 16? Yeah, and really 14 was an injury year. He wasn't even good in 15 or whatever.

They won the Super Bowl. when you were. But Drew Breeze, would you take Drew Breeze over Aaron Rogers? I don't want Gordy right here. Yeah. I'm biased. For the decade?

Yes, I would take Drew Breas. Yes, because you hate Aaron Rogers because you're a Bears fan. Fact. When is it bear segment of the show coming up on the front?

That's all over. How did Jay Cutler get slited on this list? That's what I really want to know. He got screwed. Where's Brian Erlacker? Running backs. Frank Gore, Marshawn Lynch,

LaShawn McCoy, Adrian Peterson, unanimous. wide receivers Antonio Brown Larry Fitzgerald and Calvin Johnson who destroyed your bears many many times Many times

Julio Jones on there as well When did Calvin retire? Early, I thought early in the decade He's been gone five years, right? So he only played half the decade He retired in 15 I would go DeAndre Hopkins over him then How long has DeAndre been in the league six?

Seven years So he played more in this decade than Calvin Johnson did maybe the sympathy vote because he still scored as many touchdowns against Matt Stafford. Although DeAndreys' quarterbacks have been terrible. Yeah, until the show once came along. Matt Stafford's an okay quarterback compared to what the Texans have had for Deandre Hopkins. You know why I always drafted Matthew Stafford is because his team was always down 27 to 7

and you could just stat pad the hell out of Matthew Stap's. The problem is the rack of yards. The picks kill you. Yeah, you know, if you're only getting one or minus one or minus two, you're fine. All right. The flex position, Darren Sproles. The tight ends, Rob Grankowski and Travis Kelsey. We know about Travis Kelsey very well in these parts. Just go whack and watch it January game. Would you put Jimmy Graham in there?

No. No, I think his fall off since leaving New Orleans was profound. Man, but he, I mean, at his peak, though? Yeah, what happened to Jimmy Graham, by the way? I don't know. I mean, he was a pro bowler five times, 11, 13, 14, 16, 17, 17, in the decade. I think it's like one of the worst signs of the offseason. The Bears gave him a lot of money, right?

A lot of money. Two years, 16 million, I think was. Yeah, I guess, you know what? Jimmy Graham, after he left New Orleans, didn't really do much. That's what I'm saying? What happened? And he's had Russell, so his quarterbacks have been, what, Drew Brees, Russell, Wilson, and Aaron Rogers.

Not a single sucky one in the group. And all of them love the tight ends. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense why he's been this bad. I might take Jimmy Graham's peak over the other two's peak, though. But the other... God, Travis Kelsey still is... Yeah, no, I get it.

He's a goat still. I mean, Grankowski, obviously. And then Lyman, let me run through them quickly. Jason Peters, Tyron Smith, Joe Staley, Joe Thomas.

Xavier Suafilo. Ironically, there are no Texans offensive linemen on this mix. That's weird. Although sort of there is, you have Zach Martin,

Nick's brother. He's on there. He's an offensive card. No Brino Jacamini. No, Brino Jacamini. By the way, can you name the two coaches? One's a absolute...

Bellichick. And who's the other one? Can you guess the other one? This one would have taken me a little bit. Oh, really? I was going to say Andy Reed, but... Have you seen the list, by the line? Yeah, I've already seen it.

Are you a little surprised by me? Is it my? No, because... Wasn't Reed? He's probably coached in more Super Bowls than anyone else in the decade. Okay, well, then let me... Besides Belichick. I don't even know.

See, it doesn't come right to mind. Who is it? Pete Carroll? Pete Carroll. Okay. Because it's, I mean, how many other coaches have coached in more than two Super Bowels? I would go with Sean Payton. I would go with Andy Reid maybe.

If you had to coach a team tomorrow, the Texans, they got rid of Bill O'Brien tomorrow, and I gave you Pete Carroll, Andy Reed, or Sean Payton, who would you want to the third? Not Pete Carroll. Yeah, Pete's third on the list. I would take Sean Payton in a millisecond. Yep, because we know what happens. Sean or Andy. Fourth and one or on the goal line with Pete Carroll, we know he doesn't get them.

Well, you know he goofs up in both pro and college football. He doesn't get mistakes at both levels. All right. So there's the list of the 2010 or the 2019, the 2019 all deck. 18. So JJ Watt makes it. Is Shane Leckler or more a raider or more a Texan? Of course he's more of a Raider. I just wanted to pacify those Texans fan. I want Texans to say, now he, the last uniform he wore was a Texan uniform. You know who has great man love for Shane Leckler? Is? Michael Conner. I see Shane Leckler all the time. His daughter plays competitive volleyball,

and we see him at volleyball events. The Leckler family listens to our station. Michael Conner has a Leckler jersey. Shane Leckler, if you're listening. First of all, thank you. Secondly, how is your daughter handling this volleyball? Because mine's going nuts right now. Why don't you just have her like setting in the yard or whatever? Yeah, she bounces it against the roof of our, not the roof, but one of the parts of our garage. She does.

Yeah. Kind of keep that scholarship dream alive. Spend a lot of money. Schooling. Tell her to pay for her own school like most everybody else. I can help when I can, but I need her to get the scholarship. So I'm saying, Matt, you've got to retire to Haiti or whatever. No, quite.

I'll go to Hawaii. I'd say there for a while. All right, 113, 212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-790. Happy anniversary to a member of the media. Hmm. Something happened today in sports media that we'll never forget. Was this when, is this like the 25-year anniversary of you being on

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He makes it and he's fouled. This is Russell Westbrook. One thing's for sure, I did not get my amazing style from Matt Thomas. Oh, hammer job. Rossi, I miss Russ. I miss the whole team. I miss calling games. I miss being in the arenas.

I really do. Matt. I know we're going with this. Don't do it. I won't talk, John. I got Joe here. What do you really miss, Matt? I miss the games.

And the private plane. That's nice, too. The five diamond hotels. It's good. The shrimp cocktails. Yes. The $40 pancakes in Beverly Hills. I don't miss that.

You miss the fancy Matt lifestyle. Probably as much, if not more, than calling the games. Why don't they get you on the NBA 2K ESPN thing? It was so lame that they used the audio. I couldn't believe it. It was that they used the audio of the games. We're huge Kevin Harlan fans, but it was, it overrode. Well, yeah, it's a, it's a canned thing.

It doesn't matter. It's not Kevin Harlan. I don't count that. And then the commentary is even off. Like a guy takes a wide open corner three and misses it. And the commentary says, wow, I can't believe you took that shot. Actually, you know what? That is actually like real NBA commentary.

So maybe I should shut up on that. So off base and like, are they even at the game? So you know what? The commentary is accurate. It's like Chris Weber being there all over again. And Reggie Miller. Yes. We have a trapped at worst analyst in sports.

Ooh. Is that this week's fantasy five? I think we did have done it before. The absolute worst? Here's what we're going to do. I think we need to redraft. We're going to do it. We're going to go back to women this week.

You said we're going to do that last week. We're doing it this week. What have we done? We did hottest foreign women. We did hottest women in sports, hottest. This Friday's... Women with two legs. We're going to...

This Friday, and this is purely sexist. Well, that's fine. And we're not going to draft the hottest dudes list. I'm sorry, it's just not going to happen. Friday. You know what? We can have two female listeners draft hottest dudes lists. Hotest sidon reporters and or female anchors.

Okay. Okay. Well, they could be a play-by-play or color. Let's go with a play-by-play possibilities. Beth Mowens? Yeah. Pam Ward. Okay.

That's it. I mean, Doris probably counts. She doesn't play-by-play. She does color. By the way, have you seen some of the old ESPN, like Torres. Is she okay with COVID? I know she's got the COVID. She's okay now.

Okay. Yeah, she's passed. But 2006, Doris? I'm not commenting on that. Not that she's ugly now. I'm not saying anything. And Joe, since you'll be with us this Friday, you get the seventh vote if we have to go to a seventh vote.

Okay. Use it wisely. Yeah. To me. Yeah, because otherwise Matt's going to, you know what? But I'll love you no matter what, Joe. Matt will hate you if you pick against him. Thanks, Ross.

He will tell you to go to hell. I will think less of you if you don't vote for me because my list will be better. Is it possible for you to think less of Joe? You didn't buy me to his wedding, so I don't know. That's no. Me either, but that's okay. Not fair. I didn't want to go anyways.

Hashtag limit. Very busy. All right. Hottest, side-on reporter slash female anchors, and it's purely looks. Just female sportscasters, Matt. You don't have to say sideline. You don't have to pigeonhole them. Yeah, but most of them are.

sideline. Well, some of them are, Rachel Nichols is in studio. It's true. Okay. Hotest female sportscasters. Sportscasters. And I don't want, uh, women's rights groups to say, oh, you guys are pigs. Because we are, we are, we are pigs. Well, we are pigs. Okay. That's every man. It's human. Look, we're humans. Speaking of media, happy anniversary, April 6th, 9th. Let me guess. Well, April, go ahead. April 6th, 1994. I don't think you're going to guess. If you look at my Twitter, don't look at my Twitter. I didn't link at your Twitter. Give me a hint.

What sport? The people that were involved, one was a football player. What was it, O.J. Simpson thing? Nope. April 6th. That was in June. Oh, okay. I thought it was in June, but I... You know what it is, Joe, right? Let's help out Ross with some more hints. Football topic?

Football topic. Yes. Was it a TV show or a game broadcast? It was a TV show. Yep. Adam Klan's a huge fan. Oh, that gave it away. No, it doesn't. He has no idea. Adam Klan's a huge fan of everything.

Of one of the people. Oh, okay, yeah, I know, I know. Here it is. Jim Everett with Talk To's Jim Rome. It's Jim. Good to have you on the show. Good to have you, Jim, thank you. Check that. Chris Everett.

Good to have you on the show. You know what? You've been calling the rep from about the last five years. About two years, actually, Chris. Yeah. So long the way, Jim, you cease being Jim and you became Chris. Well, let me tell you a secret. That, you know, we're sitting here right now.

And if you guys want to take a station break, you can. But if you call me Chris Everett to my face, one more time. I already do twice. You better, you call it one more time. We better take a station back. No. It's a five-minute segment. A five-segment show.

We've got a long way to go. We do. We got a long way to go. We do. I'll get a couple segments out of us. Well, it's hard to do here with you, though. Well, it's good to see you, too. You've been talking like this behind my back for a long time.

But now I said it right here. Right. We got no problem. I think that you probably won't say it again. I bet I do. Okay. Chris. So childish.

Brilliant. Brilliant move by Jim to get more recognition. I bet you won't call me Chris again. Okay, Chris. That sounds like we're seven years old. He had to have known that booking a guy that would call Chris. all the time was not going to end well. It worked.

What was the problem with it? I guess I just don't get the story. So his name is Jim Everett. Chris Everett, of course, is the female tennis player. Okay. And I guess for years he would say how Jim Everett is playing like Chris Everett. Ah. And it pissed off Jim Everett to where he said,

I bet you won't say it to my face. And there you go. That makes more sense now. Yep. So Jim had to know that this was going to be a great opportunity for him to go right at Jim and say, why don't you call him me Chris today, Jim? But Jim, to his credit, said, you know what?

I need to get punched in the face to get notoriety. I've got to stay consistent. I've got to call him Chris. And he did three times. Yeah, at least Jim stuck to his guns. Yeah, but he knew there was an end game to it. He knew that Jim was not going, Jim ever, that is, was not going to just sit there and take that for more than about three minutes.

Well, what if Cal McNair was listening to the show? And he got mad, you're calling him he-haw. And he said, you know what? what, I'm going to come up to your station. You've got to call me he-ha to my face. 2,000 West Loop South. Yeah, so you would do it. Yeah. Was that you trying to make a name for yourself? Yeah, but Cal's not going to walk

across and go after a... Cow's going to come up here and kick your ass, Matt. You know what I would say? I would say, first of all, I don't call him he-ha every time. I just think of the show too much. Okay. But the point being is this, is that I want to have a serious talk with him about how he's ruining

the franchise that so many people in the city love. I'm just saying Jim didn't back down. So I I would say tip of the cap to that. But I'm not bringing, Jim, I'm not bringing Cal up here in order to start a fight. Well, I mean, if he said, if, I mean, I don't know. How did that interview get set up. Let me tell you this. Let me tell you this.

If he said, Matt, my feelings are hurt when you bring up the he haul. I would say, I'm sorry. No, what if he says, I want to come up here and kick your ass? If you called, say it to my face. I'm not, then I would not be in the mood to do that. That's not what I want to do. Yeah, you don't want to mess with a man with a mustache, Matt. Well, I'm growing a beard right now.

I mean, how old's Cal about? What, you think you can take them? Doesn't matter. What's the handicapping on that, Joe? No, there's no handicaping necessary. The problem is I don't want to, I don't want to fight. I want a better ownership is what I want. I'm just saying that's what happened.

What if one of like the 30 people that want to fist fight Adam Clanton came up here? 30? Yeah, 70. Okay. So I'd be on the low side. So I would be different in Jim. If Cal's saying, I want to come up here and I want you to tell me, I would say, if you think, if you think, if you think it, it offends you so badly.

Matter of fact, I won't do it anymore. I've done it three or four times. I don't do it daily, but I won't do it anymore. If you think it's offensive, then I don't know it's offensive. I don't think it's offensive. No, I think it's great. Keep doing it. And if Cal comes up here, you whip his ass, Matt.

You know, you're a terrible influence. You hear that, Joe? He wants me. Hey, that would be great publicity for the show. I don't want that. That's the whole point. Local radio yokel, fist fights, Texans owner, Cal McNair. I think it'd be great

We'd have to get the Where's that live stream camera that was up here? We've got that's been long ago Oh man, come on Oh, he went with one of the morning shows That was gone Was that the reason why I left? Well, that was why it was here

Oh, okay, well, oh well, we try No, if he came up and says, Matt I'm offended about it, I say, okay Because I'm not in the mood to offend people It's not my job If you think he's he-ha, call him he-ha I don't think he's he-ha I just want to, I think he's a bad owner

I would tell that to his face Say you suck, Cal I would say you're a bad owner I would say you've made massive mistakes. Your father would not give Bill O'Brien the general manager and the head coaching team. And you respected the hell out of your father. You were at his side since day one of the Texans on the team. And that's the example you're sending is this?

I wouldn't be afraid to say that. But I don't want to, I don't like people when they call me names. Why would I, you know? So you know what? I'm done. Oh, I think you should keep it up. You reversed it. I didn't need to reverse anything.

You were trying to push and instead I'm not ever going to do it again. Okay. I'll do it. And I apologize in advance. If Cal's listening. To the McNair family. To the McNair family. We've done a lot of good things.

Sure. I mean, donating lots of money and organizing. I mean, yeah. Almost as much as one of their players. They've just made one. I think more than one of their players. They've made a very, very bad mistake in giving Bill O'Brien, who I don't think is a good person, keys to the team.

Bill O'Brien's got more power than Cal. He does. 130 on Sports Talk 790. 713-212-1-2-5-7-90. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. I-Hard Radio, the free app for your music, your stations like Sports Talk 790 and number one for podcasting.

Our friend ATX HoboGro is like, you know what? You want to get the 30,000 Twitter followers. There's an easy way to do it. Fist fight, Cal McNair. He's challenging him to a fist fight, Matt, right now. I don't believe in fighting. That's true.

What was the last fist fight you were in, Matt? I was a kid? Yeah. The last time I ever went after somebody was the pool stick at the slick willies. Okay. When was that? And that was to defend my buddy. That was when I was like 17.

I was drinking and shouldn't have been. Young Matt was crazy. Young Matt was wild. Young Matt ran with a rougher crowd. The rough crowd? Yeah. But that was good. They used to call you Thugga MT.

I remember that. Well, they used to call me the old. They called me the OG back then, too. I don't know if they called you that. 713-21-2-5-7-90 if you want to get in. 7-1-3-21-2-5-7-90. A couple of the things I want to get to in the world of sports. We've not done so far.

Done so far. Does that make sense? Done so far? Yeah. We've not gotten to. Rudy Tomjanovitch in the basketball Hall of Fame. Yes. It's just the regular basketball hall of fame.

The basketball, the Naysmith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame. Well worth it. Um, you root for good people. You know, as much as I don't root for Bill O'Brien, I rooted hard for Rudy Tom Johnovich as a player in the last days when I was a kid, too as a coach. I used to do the Rudy T. show with him weekly on... You did?

Oh, yeah. He was... I talked to this before. Yeah, I think so. He would come in. Our radio station was located on the Katie Freeway in Kirkwood. Okay. So not right around the corner.

And he would drive into the show, and he said, Matt, only ask of one thing. Can you bring Johnny Rockets? Because this is when Katie Mills had just opened up. Oh, is there Johnny Rockets and Katie Mills? So I'm like, you're telling me you'll come in studio and do the show weekly as compared on the phone. If I bring you Johnny Rockets?

You have to be Johnny Rockets every week? And I think I did it probably three or four times. Okay. But here's the crazy thing. He didn't like the meat. He liked the plant-based burgers that Johnny Rockets had. Oh, okay. So I'd get him two plant-based burgers.

plant-based Johnny Rocket burgers in an order of fries. Hmm. And I think shake. Yeah, I think so. Is he a vegetarian or he liked the plant one? I think he might be a vegetarian. I'm not completely sure.

Do you remember when Katie Mills, though? It was like a huge deal in Houston. Oh. It was like Katie Mills. Have you been up there lately? Have you been up there lately? I haven't been to Katie Meals. It opened in, I just looked it up.

It opened in 99. I probably hadn't been there in 15 plus years. There's like 50 hotels, 75 restaurants, and a big-ass mall. Yeah. It's like its own little city out there. It is. I mean, it's basically probably supplies the economy of a Katie, which probably is not doing much right now, if anything. But, yeah, Johnny Rockets open.

I don't even know if there's a Johnny Rockets still at Katie Mills. But I lived out in West Houston the time, and I would go out to Katie Mills, grab the Johnny Rockets, and bring it in. And he was great. He was very open, very honest. No, it looks like the nearest one is in college station. Okay. There's one in Vegas that I used to eat at. Oh, it's at Ballets?

Yes. You get hammered and head to the Johnny Rockets every now and then. I'm going to tell you all a little secret about Vos Vegas. Ross and I, you know how Ross always portrays I had this fancy life. Yes. Ross, some of the best times we have had in Vegas have been at Bally's and in Harris. That's true. Because, first of all, the rooms are nice.

Centrally located. Central located. They're not super, super expensive. They have a sports book at Bally's, which is phenomenal. It's hidden away. And there's a massive food court that you can eat nine different terrible meals in one setting. It's wonderful. So if you are a little pro tip, for those of you that, again, if we ever go to Las Vegas again,

but if you're trying to go on a quasi-budget and not break the bank, ballets and Harris will be your go-to places to go. But they have a Johnny Rockets there. Yeah, the nearest one is College Station or San Antonio. And you know, the one in Vegas, they do the same thing. If you've ever been to a Johnny Rockets before, they, in the middle of cooking your meal, they stop what they're doing and they come out on the floor and they dance. I haven't seen that.

Oh, yeah. We usually am pretty blackout by the time I'm eating in Johnny Rockets. One time I'm at Johnny Rockets in Vegas. I'm like, I'll take a half pound, some fries and a strawberry. Hold on a second, sir. I've got to run out there. him and all the cooks are going let's do the hop

right in the middle of the middle of the mall this is very funny or they doing the twist with chubby checker whatever but I mean maybe these are 22 year olds that have no idea who's ever sang these songs and they're saying what the hell is a chubby checker and they're dancing the songs from 1958 this is funny

what are we going with this oh rudy t he loves john rudy t loves johnny rockets maybe you can give his hall of fame speech and mention that rudy t loves johnny rockets he also loves indian food too okay Indian food is fantastic. Big, big Indian food. I love Indian food.

Saw Rudy two or three years ago in Los Angeles when he was living there. He's now moved to Austin. Didn't we have him on a flashback Friday recently? We did. We did. Get him back, baby. Well, he's not busy. Nobody's been, like Joe said, literally nobody is busy.

That's the thing about Joe, you're a producer. You should be booking amazing guests during this time because no one's really that busy. You know what's crazy is so many people have said no. A lot of them are legit excuses because they're like, I'm teaching. my kids. But I've gotten more nose now than I feel like I normally do. Like I've asked for athletes and they're like, they're not doing interviews right now.

I'm like, what are they doing? I've asked for one athlete during this time. It was George Springer and he had said no. It happens. It is what it is. We're still doing our series. People we miss hearing from. We'll have a couple of them this week. That's true. Oh, yeah, I'm going to try a couple of those. And you are going for Dame Bruegler

from NFL Draft Scout, right? Is that what they call it? Sure. Is he with CBS? or whatever he is? He is with the athletic now. Man, Dan, Brueger, moving around. Maybe all the appearances on this show have put him in perhaps. He was with NFL draft scout and they got bought by CBS

and he was so he was with both of them for a bit and now he's with the athletic. Okay, 140 on Sports Talk 790. 713-212-5-790. The British Open has been canceled due to the coronavirus. That comes to really no surprise. It's the Open Championship, Matt. Well, I don't think everybody knows that.

Oh, I know. But now they do. They get mad at you if you say the British Open, right? Who's mad at me? British. The Brits that are listening online? The Britons. The Masters.

The Masters. Has rescheduled a date. Hmm. Lea Zelliers aren't going to be in full bloom in November, Matt. What is it like in Augusta in November? November. This is coming from their chairman. We hope the anticipation of staging the tournament brings a moment of joy to the Augusta community and those who love the game. masters. Because aren't there going to be football games on CBS on that Sunday?

Yes. So they're going to have the Masters and the NFL. Now, here's what they'll do. Because I'm glad you asked this. I'm a television programming mind. They will schedule all the CBS games for the noon slot. They'll put the early round coverage on ESPN, and then they'll put the back, the back nine on CBS at three o'clock.

That would make sense. See? I don't have a lot of answers. a lot of things, Joe, but that one I feel pretty confident about. Because if you remember in years past, CBS would not have double-headers early in the year because they were doing the final rounds of the U.S. Open tennis tournament. So, yeah, that would be an easy fix,

especially when you have ESPN as a broadcast partner because ESPN's got nothing else to do. By the way, and we were having this conversation last hour about the NBA and its return, and we were saying, frankly, the economy should be the number one thing. And that is the absolute truth. I think people want sports back because we want some, We want some joy in our life.

We have been inundated with despair and jobs lost and people losing their lives and people getting sick. And while that's all good, there is an economic part of this as well. If ESPN doesn't get any sporting events, they can only televise so many bestubs. They can only put that Chicago Bulls miniseries on for so long. I feel like ESPN and Disney are going to be in trouble. because while they're not giving out those broadcast rights for those particular games, they're going to lose viewers. And that's why ESPN is doing the same thing that we as sports radio host are trying to do.

It was putting on different shows, different topics, different ideas. We put on other games. We put the Verlander no hitter on. I think we got the opening day. We've done something other things. Oh, Garrett Cole's one hitter last year has been on this weekend. But ESPN could really be suffering. I'm sure they are.

why would you advertise with ESPN right now if there's no games coming up between now and the end of the year? You're a huge 2K fan? You love Scott Van Pelt that night. Scott's great. Scott is amazing. I love Scott Van Pelt and that show.

I don't watch it hardly ever. Scott Van Pelt may be the best thing in the ESPN's done in the last decade in terms of that show. When it comes on after like Monday Night Football or or an ESPN Wednesday or Friday game, I watch a little bit. That's about it. So we all want sports back.

but if sports has to take a backseat to the first of the year in order to get this thing fixed under control and we can feel safe about our sports teams being back in stadiums, forgetting about fans, just making sure that 125 athletes can be in the same football field or the same stadium and not feel like they're going to contract the coronavirus, that's the most important thing. But we all want sports back badly. And that's one of the thing I talked about with you earlier is that college football, Ross, doesn't have to worry about a clock.

That's true. We're talking about 12 weeks of a season. If we're not ready to, if we're not ready, we could see college football games starting in December going through March, which right now for the immediate sucks to no end. But if we get a handle on this, and I certainly anticipate we, we're going to get a handle on this because we have great doctors and grave staff and lots of government subsidies for this now, we're going to go from having nothing to talk about to too much. Yeah, I was thinking about that. We're going to have hope, fingers crossed, in December of the year 2020, this year, coming up in a handful of months, we potentially could have an NBA season starting up, a college football season starting up, a pro football season starting up, and maybe some sort of middle of the pack or end of baseball season.

The fall of 2020 could be awesome or the winner of 2021. But none of us can think about that right now because all we're thinking about right now is these latest projections that are out there. That's why I can't watch the network news because these network, these current projections are scaring the hell out of me. They're calling it, we still have a 9-11 day coming up.

We still have the worst of it yet to come. Everybody's guests, but man, I don't need that right now. That's why I have this show and you guys to make fun of... We're here for you, Matt. That's right. Thank God you are. We're here to stage fist fights with you and Cal McNair. No. Cal and I are not going to get along.

I would consider him a close friend at this point. Oh, really? Yeah, 145 on Sports Talk 790, 713-212-5-790. So congratulations of Rudy T for making it into the Basketball Hall of Fame. And that list, by the way, is pretty damn good with other different folks that are going in this year. So it's not like one of those years where you don't recognize 75% of those that are getting in. 7-13-212-5-790. If you'd like to join us, anything on your mind, as the Matt Thomas show continues here until 3 on Sports Talk 790.

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Am I right about that? There we go. Yeah. Everybody knows that. Everyone should. we mentioned Calvin Johnson not getting on that all decades no Calvin Johnson's in

yeah DeAndre what about Larry Fitzgerald what about him you're questioning that really I'm with Ross I mean he's been probably the most consistent yeah he's been great for basically every year you can set your watch to Larry Fitzgerald well I mean the numbers probably haven't been great the last couple years I just yeah

I mean his best years looks like actually they were like he hadn't had a super great year since well 11 was great 13 was solid 10 touchdowns 950 yards then he's got a 1,200 yard season with 9 touchdowns I think I'm with Larry Fitzgerald being there 11 time pro baller how many of those were in from 2010 on I'm just saying it was there was a debate whether Larry Fitzgerald or Andre Johnson was the greatest versus greater receiver and now it's pretty clear. I don't know.

He made the Pro Bowl in 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17. I don't use Pro Bowl. Well, you're one of the better one, right? It means something. Yeah, but they're never in the playoffs. Only one, well, he hadn't been. They're always available. That's true.

Still, you're at least one of the best if you make the Pro Bowl. You're not, well, some people are purely average and make it on. How many years? So how many years was he was Larry? And again, I'm just, this is frankly more just debating than it is anything. I mean, if you said Larry Fitzgerald's in the list, I'm not going to really complain. But how many times did Larry Fitzgerald, was he 12 or more touchdowns in over 1,000 yards? 12 or more?

10. During the decade, during the decade, zero times. He only had double digits touchdowns once. Who do you want over him? Dandre. How many times did he? Deander Hopkins scored 12 or more touchdowns. That's what I'm saying. I want you to look at the numbers.

Okay. Okay. I just, I don't know. I'm just, because when Calvin was playing, he's one of the greatest, he could have been one of the greatest warders years of all the time. Yeah, I mean, unstoppable. Literally unstoppable. Deander Hopkins got double digit touchdowns three times. Fitzgerald once. 8,600 yards.

And then for 10,000 yards. He had 10,000 yards in the decade and 61 touchdowns. Henry Hopkins had 54 touchdowns and 8,000 yards. Of course, he didn't enter a league till 13. Yeah, so you're talking about a guy that played three last seasons. It's a decade. Yeah, well, that still matters. Which receiver would you rather have had for the decade?

I'd go, Larry Fitzgerald. I'm looking at Calvin Johnson's numbers now, and like some of these seasons he put up. So he played six years of the 10. I mean, like 2012, he had 122 catches, 2,000 yards. We can't bump Calvin Johnson But he only had five touchdowns at year I don't know how you have 122 catches and five touchdowns Well, go ask Andre Johnson about that

But I mean the some of the numbers he put up in this decade are just Incredible he had a year with 16 touchdowns Two with 12 Man he was so good Megatron was a beast Unreal never mind He had 1200 yards and nine touchdowns and then retired at age 30 That's incredible

Larry Fitzgerald all pro one time. Zero in the decade. DeAndre Hopkins, three times? Oh, I thought it was 2008. You know, you're thinking a second team then. Oh, yeah, that's right. Second team.

Yeah. First, Henry. So you're telling me, Deonre Hopkins makes it three times in the decade. Yeah, that's true. And Larry makes it a second team one time in the decade. I think you're talking me into this, Matt. I mean, if you want one guy for the whole decade, if you're getting the guy's decade, right,

I'd rather have 10 years of what Larry Fitzgerald did than seven years of what DeAndre did. I'd rather have Larry Fitzgerald of the 2000s than I would have the 2010s. Yeah, because that was his first half his career. He can't believe he was in 2003 draft. Yeah. So that's my answer. So he's not the player of the 2000. I think I can build a more compelling argument for DeAndre over Larry Fitzgerald than I can make a compelling argument of Calvin Johnson.

In the last five years or the last seven years, yeah. But you're adding, I mean, you're missing three whole years. It's team of the decade. How much of attendance is the grade? It's huge. For the old decade team, it's huge. But the last three years, every year, Larry Fitzgerald was, should I come back and play? Should I come back and play?

So he even in his mind knew the last three years of his career were towards the downspin of his NFL career. I mean, even three years ago, he still had 1100 yards and six touchdowns. But wasn't always a conversation every year? Am I going to come back for one more? Would you rather have the last 10 years? years of what Larry Fitzgerald did or seven years of what DeAndre Hopkins do. I think I take the 10 of Larry. I'm going to take the seven. I'm going to take the seven of DeAndre because not only was DeAndre amazing in each one of those years, he also had crap for quarterbacks.

Or at least in Arizona, he's had Carson, Carson Palmer. Was Carlson Palmer there in 2010? Who were his school? Who were Larry Fitzgerald's quarterback this decade? Josh Rosen, Kyler, Carlin. Josh was run year. Carson Palmer. Was Kurt Warner there at any point in that decade? I think he left.

2009 is when they made the Super Bowl, and I think he left shortly after that. So maybe one year or two? I'm going to give DeAndre lots of points for being better in the back half of the decade, and I'm going to give him some points for having, except for DeAndre or Deshawn, a horrible, horrible quarterback. Okay. It's great to be.

Again, we're splitting hairs on this. We are splitting hairs. But the point is, I just think that it's as much as I want to kick Calvin to the side. These are the leading passers of the decade for the Cardinals. Derek Anderson, two years of Kevin Cobb, four years of Carson Palmer, one year of Drew Stanton, a year of Josh Rosen and a year of Kyler Murray. I would take that over everything prior to Deshawn. Not by much, but I would. You got Matt Schaub for a little bit there, declining Matt Schaub.

You had, you know, he had Interception Matt Schaub. And then he had Hoyer and Mallet and Case Keenum. And DeJohn Watson? No, not like Drew Stanton and Josh Rosen. But Josh Rose was only there one year. How long was Brock there? One year or two? Osweiler was started for...

Did he start for one year or two? I don't know. There's two years of Kevin Cod... That's the problem. We are comparing the Houston Texans' quarterback status to the Arizona Cardinals. I mean, two years of Kevin Cobb and a year of Drew Stanton. Well, Cobb went there as a huge free agent acquisition, correct?

Yes. And Derek Anderson. After they signed Mike Vic, right? Yeah, and he basically left there and kept getting beat up by the terrible offensive line, right? and that's why he quit because he got concussions. But Kevin Cobb made big, big money for a couple of years. Calmed out. Yeah, he made big money.

You don't have to defend him because he's U of H failure. Not a failure. His offensive line failed him. Okay. His offensive lineman put his head in serious jeopardy. And some bad officiating too, huh? No. I don't blame officiating.

I blame exclusively that horrific offensive line. I'm just saying I think we can flip the debate. We would both have good arguments. Larry is good, though. He really is really, really good. But Larry Fitzgerald, to me, was 2003 to 2009. More, maybe more so than, I mean, again, I'm not going to, I'm not going to let a guy get bonus points because he hung around longer. Especially in each of the last three years, it was Larry's going to have a press conference.

He's going to put out there on Twitter whether or not he's going to return. I don't know if it's three years. That's a little much. Because, like I said, three years ago, he had 1100 yards and six touchdowns. Isn't that about what DeAnder Hopkins did literally this year? what did DeAndre Hill Hopkins do this year? 1,100 yards and 7 touchdowns. All pro, though.

Okay. All right. I don't think we can, we can, we're going to agree to disagree on this one. Over the decade, 10,000 yards, 61 touchdowns for Larry Fitzgerald. 8,600 yards, 54 touchdowns, four. And how many fewer seasons? Three fewer. So, but Larry was, I want to say Larry was.

No, Larry wasn't really. heard there. Yeah, he's been more productive. No, he's not way for more productive. On an average end of way more productive is Larry Fitzgerald. 2,400 more yards. Eight more touchdowns. But if DeAndre Hopkins could have played starting in 2010. There's no

if. It's not teams of the, teams of the 2003s. It's teams of the 2013. It's teams of the decade. Okay. That's the rule. If you say if the team of the day, if you start the decade in 2013, I'm with you. Well, that's the case. And we should trick every quarterback that should, then there should be no, then Drew Breeze would have definitely been the quarterback of the decade.

I think that's definitely a debate. Yeah, I think we're, I think, yeah, I mean, I can't. Larry's awesome. I just happen to think DeAndre's the last five years has been incredible and should get his proper due. 7-1-3. And by the way, the NFL thought that way, too, all pro three times. Zero. And the NFL came out with this list.

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each person for him or herself during the draft. Here is the letter, and I don't want to read the whole thing because it's really long from Commissioner Goodell, but basically they're going to have a virtual, format, which is no surprise in any of this stuff. What does that mean, though?

I think you're going to dial in to a central location and you're going to make the pick that way. It's going to, my guess it'll be a huge Zoom and or what would you call it? Yahoo Chat Room. Yahoo! Chatroom? Google Hangout. Google Hangout.

FaceTime. Is somebody going to FaceTime Goddell? Is Bill O'Brien going to FaceTime Godell? and say, hey, this is our pick. He's going to text them. They have a group chat. Basically what they're saying in this letter is that everybody's working from home. Yes.

April 23rd of the 25th. So it'll be two weeks from this Thursday. It will be the first round. And that the general managers and the head coaches cannot. So what's going to happen is you're going to have the head coach and general manager, or in the Texans case, just Bill, reporting and making the picks to the league office. Okay. Whether that's through FaceTime, whether that's through Zoom, whether that's through...

And then Roger's going to come out to a podium in front of nobody and announce the pick? Yeah. You got to pipe in some Jets fans booing. Well, here's the thing. How is Commissioner Gadel going to hug the first round picks? Virtual hugs? EA Sports. Oh, that's right.

They said, are they going to have like Madden come give him a hug or something, right? They're going to do... Yeah, they're making characters. Yeah. It's a very bizarre. It's going to help with the draft introduction of players. It's going to look so fun. What if the players don't even look like their avatars, like normally in these games?

Yeah, so my guess is you're going to see a fake Joe Burrow, walk across the stage, a fake Roger Goodell, a Madden version of Roger Goodell, and he'll put on his Bengals hat, and it's going to be Madden style. Okay, in all serious this, though, on these, because ABC and NFL network are broadcasting this thing. They have got to clear hours and hours and hours of broadcast. How are they going to talk to these general managers after they make their pick?

Because if you're a general manager and you have one computer, or let's say you have two or three computers in your home, you can't have one on going to ESPN and them talking to you, then the NFL network. Then the ESPN and NFL network folks have to then find the player. How much heads up are these networks going to get so they can Skype in these picks? Because part of the coverage of the draft is talking to these players as soon as they get drafted. And what's it like?

And they're crying. And what does this mean to your mother? And a lot of them have a story. Regardless of what the conversation is. Somebody's going to, you just can't say, okay, first pick Cincinnati, Joe Burrell. And you stand there. You wait for 15 minutes until the next pick. I mean, they've got to, they've got to film time.

I think it's going to be one broadcast. What's that? I think it's going to be one broadcast. instead of ESPN and like NFL Network doing separate shows. I think it's going to be like that way to make it easier for everyone. Do we know that for sure? No, we don't. But that's what a lot of speculation is that like Rich Eisen specifically,

because he's worked at both places, like him and Daniel Jeremiah would do the draft from the NFL Network Studios and everyone else would just be Skyping in to do interviews. The McShays and Kuyper's, where are they going to be doing? Maybe they would, maybe they'll do other stuff. Maybe they'll jump on. And it's a serious question because I don't know the answer to this. How many people can you put in a Google Hangout that would be broadcast quality?

None, probably. Have you been seeing? I mean, these shows, these get-up shows and everything, a lot of it's been very poor quality. Yeah, I mean, they can do like four or five people like they've done on Get Up at one time. But there's a delay. There's always-delay issues and quality issues, yes. So here's, let's just pretend we're producers and the directors of this show. So, George, let's say that we're doing our own draft coverage.

Okay, and you are running master control. You have me in one location. You have Ross another location. You have the commissioner who has to say who the pick is. Then you take both of us off. Well, we have to talk about the pick that was just made. Then you as a producer have to go try to Skype in the person that just got drafted. And then you have other analysts that want to get their two cents in.

I mean, whoever's going to be technically in charge of whatever this one grandiose production is, we're going to have to be pretty forgiving because I just don't think this is going to be very serious. This is going to be full of errors and delay issues and internet. It's going to be like watching a high school or college low-level production.

I agree. I feel like there's just too many different moving parts. But what about and like, what if Bill O'Brien's internet goes out? Well, they can call the cell phone. Yeah, but like, I don't know. It's just like, now you're going to be calling everyone on your cell phone,

all your scouts and everything. It just seems like it's a nightmare. What are the normal NFL rules if you go over your pick? If you go over time on your pick. You just lose it. Is that right? Right? I don't know.

You can go back and get it though, right? You're going to tell me like somebody's two minutes later on their first round pick. You're like, oh, you can go back and get it. It seems like it would be something. Oh, like the other team skips you like in a fantasy draft. Yeah. That's happened before. Or do you go auto pick?

It's happened to the Vikings before. Do they have an auto pick list? The United States is the last time I think that happened to. Was it Mike Tice in them? Could have been. That sounds right. But so, no, I think everybody has to have multiple cell phones. Yeah, why did the, yeah, okay.

And multiple internet. But the problem is, even if you have, if, if you have good internet at your house, how much can, how much bandwidth can ESPN and the NFL network stand? Great question. I think it's going to be a total disaster. Could it be such a disaster that they have to stop the draft after the first round? it goes so badly that they can't they can't finish it

well I'll say what this is no it'll be fine here's what they'll do if they don't think they can pull this off from a production standpoint they'll just make it two hours with Mel Kiper on one screen

what's the guy's name Tom McShay and then the host and then a lot of graphics a lot of pre-produced stuff of the player showing us thing and maybe we don't get interviews of players very often I bet you

I mean that we're two and a half weeks out. I bet you they're working on a lot of this stuff because, I mean, you know for the most part which players are going to be drafted and they'll have them ready and they'll have them in front of video companies. They always have a camera in front of a lot of these draft picks anyways if they don't fly them in, which they can't do now, of course. I think it'll be fine. I mean, it's not going to be perfect, obviously. I think these are all issues that can be ironed out, though. Maybe also what these players might do, here's something for you guys is instead of doing Q&As, maybe when Joe Burrow gets drafted by the Bingles,

he shoots a video of himself saying, hey, I want to thank this, this, this, and they just play that. I'll probably get some, I feel like ESPN will do, like, some like pretty advanced, produced pieces. Yeah, you're going to have highlight packages. And that's the easy part. I'm just making longer. Part of the charm of the night is seeing the player in his first reaction, where you

can't pre-produce that because if a trade does take place, let's say Miami trades for the first pick. Joe Burrow can't have two of them say, use this one if I get drafted by the band. Yeah, you just have Joe Burrow ready, ready to go. Or you can get them on the phone, I guess. I don't know. But it'll be internet. Actually, phone.

It's 2020. Most everybody has high-speed internet, and it should be fun. But you're also asking for multiple layers of things where you watch these get-up shows. One person drops in, one person gets back on. You're looking to get McShay to ask a question to the pick or the player. No, usually one person interviews a player. You're not going to have like five people asking the question. asking Joe Burrow or whoever a question.

If I'm them, I dumb it down as much as possible. If it requires Kenny, not Kenny, Maine, if it carries Rich Eisen to do all the questions, so be it. Yeah. I don't think you want to... I don't think you want to over-produce something that, frankly, we don't care what it's on, as long as somebody's talking about a particular team.

Because that's what we're looking for. We're looking for live information. They'll have to play it on the fly. If they lose connection, they'll just have to duck out of it and keep going. I mean, it's going to be a work in progress, but I don't think it's going to be unerable or bad or anything like that. Oh, I think it could be bad. I think it's going to have kinks that work. I think it's going to be so bad that you're going to turn it off or what?

No, but I'm saying that anybody thinking this is going to be seamless is fooling themselves. No, there will be kinks, but I don't think it's going to be that bad. If it is that bad, you just look at Schaefter's Twitter feed. I mean, they've been doing this, they've been doing these online, basically everything online for like three weeks now. Yeah. By the way, it was the Minnesota Vikings who messed up their track. Right. Yeah, they missed on...

I don't know why it was in my brain. They were trying to get a trade done with the Ravens, with the seventh overall pick. They didn't get it done, so Jacksonville was able to jump in and take Byron Lefwich. That's hilarious. Well, maybe they wish Mike Tyson was a little quicker.

And they didn't they have Dante Culpeper there at the time? I think so. And then Carolina took... No, no. They didn't have Culpeper. No, the Vikings. Oh, you mean they didn't need... But they had Brunel.

The Jags had Brunel, right? 2002? Probably, yeah. Probably, yeah. Put a Minnesota one I'm taking after. And then Carolina took someone, and then the Vikings finally got their pick. And the ninth slot, they took Kevin Williams, the DT. Good player for that.

Really, really good player for them. I was covering the Vikings when they grabbed him. Mike Ties had a checkered pass in Minnesota. First of all, he'd screw the draft up. And second, he sold his Super Bowl tickets for a profit. That's right. You can't do that. Well, you can do it.

You just don't tell anybody. He's known for breaking the rules and having a pencil over his ear. and a pretty good offensive mind, but then it kind of just went away. Well, he had 98 Vikings. Yeah, he was a genius with Chris Carter and Randy Moss and Robert Smith. It wasn't his offensive corner to Brian Billick, right? And they had, I mean, who they had, they have Steve Hutchinson or whoever. Like, they had a really good offensive line.

Yeah, offensive genius. Well, okay. Worked for a couple of years. Gary Anderson, not a great, not a great kicker. As soon as I moved to Minnesota, like, you need to make sure you know exactly what Gary Anderson and didn't do. So what are you talking about? Yeah, he missed a kick that would have sent the Vikings

of the Super Bowl for the first time since the late 70s. Instead, the Atlanta Falcons went. 2.13 is the time. 713-213-212-5-7-90. Speaking of NFL, you know, Cam Newton is still available, and Jadavion Clowney, who, by the way, said, you know what?

I want $20 million a year. The NFL said, you're not worth it. So I'll take 16 and a half, 17 million dollars here. Two very high-profile first picks available. Overall number ones, in fact, still looking for work. We'll talk about that and more as a Matt Thomas show continues. Roman Mobile at 230 on Sports Talk 790. Daniel House.

Hey, it's Daniel House. Matt Thomas continues now on Sports Talk 790. 217.9. It is a Matt Thomas show. We go to our buddy, Aggie Doug, trying to stay safe out there. AD, what do you got today? What's up, fellas? How are y'all today?

We're fine, thank you. Hey, man, I just wanted to kick it around that the draft is going to be horrible. If you've ever watched the old draft videos from like the 80s, where they basically just sat on the TV and the guy, you know, took a phone call. Like, I think it was Pete Roselle that used to do that. So, I mean, it's going to be horrible, but we're going to love it. we're anticipating a train wreck I'm not anticipating a train wreck but we're going to love it man

because it's all we've had oh yeah I mean let me tell you something I don't care here's what I'm looking forward to this sounds weird somebody's like I can't hear them what they say

I mean there's going to be there's going to be moments like that that you can't you can't predict and it's going to happen because not everybody's going to have clear crystal internet abilities to broadcast

and have multiple players So like I said, if ESPN slash NFL network, whoever's doing it, just keeps it down to a minimum, all we need is the picks with a couple of highlights and maybe 30 seconds of a produced message or something. That's all. I just hope they're not trying to overproduce this because I think when you overproduce something like this, especially when we don't really care if it's overproduced, you could have some problems. Because what you don't want is you don't want, well, we try to get a hold of the Minnesota Vikings for their pick and Internet service went down. My guess is the cell phone landlines are still working. It just may be, you may not be able to see the reaction from a general manager.

Because remember those war room videos of the last few years have been awesome. How the Cowboys always raise their hands up and they high five each other and none of that. And if you think Ross that Bill O'Brien is full of power now, he is going to be in his house by himself as the head coach and the general manager of the Texans. And if all of his scouts say, hey, take this guy or take that guy. But he's got the power. He's going to take who he wants. He's got the power to matter if they're going to do this from an ivory tower or from his home or from a Johnny Rocket.

He's got the power no matter what, man. Yeah, but now he can just be like, losing you guys. I can't see on face time anymore. No. Can't hear you. All right. Hey guys. Who do you all want to air on a conference?

He want to take Scout one. take that defensive back. Scout two, defensive back, Scout three. What did you say? You said wide receiver? Okay, we're going to go wide receiver. Matt, Bill O'Brien's about what's in the best interest of the team. T, capital T, capital E, capital E, capital A, capital M. All right?

Capital T, capital E, capital A, capital M. TM. That's what Bill O'Brien's all about. Do you think that was in on his laundry notes? Yeah. He put that. Because he spelled it out. You did it twice.

Correct. I don't know how long did you speak. You were there. I mean, you weren't there. They went from until about, they went probably 25. 20 minutes. But how much of that was Bill O'Brien? It was, Cal first.

Then Easterby. Then Easterby. Then O'Brien. It was like, so Cal was the opener. Bill O'Brien was a headliner. We're doing what's the best interest for the team. And Cal, to his credit, did not sound like he was coming. Now, it may have been scripted.

The questions clearly, when Van der May was reading the questions, they were extraordinarily scripted. Did he say rock and roll at any point? He did not. But they were not the, you know, live interview questions. Hey, hey, I'm thinking about that. No, it was, they knew what the questions were coming. Of course.

It was a little propaganda shareholders meeting. Yeah. And do you not think they all virtually high-five each other after that meeting? They all got like, hey, guys, this conference calls over. Call me right back. You know how you call somebody right back after conference? conference call. I think that went. Oh man, that was great. You were great, Bill. Good job, Bill

says, Bill to check. You were fine, Jack. I love the way you spelled team with capital letters twice. That really drove the point home, Bill. It really got the fan base all riled up. They're ready for it's football time in Houston, baby. So who got riled up? Who, unless, what kind of season ticket holder felt better about the situation? Traveling Texans. Oh, no question. They're like, oh, yeah.

spell out capital T capital E spell it out for me Bill let me tell you what traveling Texans did they went and got some cheap airfares on United the other day because they're like man

I'm just going to book every NFC city because it's all NFC city because it's cheap no they probably did Southwest because you can cancel I think you can cancel United aren't too oh they changed their rules right

they made it like an actual good airline for a little bit when the tough times hit just for a short time yeah I know right United's going to take care of you right now we need you really better.

So I've been, you know, Ross and I have traveled a variety of place over the years, and I'm a big airline fan of the time of the 24. So I look up flights to, like, I looked up flight status of certain cities, like from Houston to Los Angeles, normally there are probably eight flights today. They've cut it down to two or three. I mean, that's probably happened for Boston, New York, New Orleans. I mean, United's just flying at probably 30% of what they used to. So I look at a flight that was leaving that day.

Like, I'd say I was looking at it for, I was at it for, I was at, at 11 o'clock in the morning, I was looking at a flight at 230. You know, you go to the standby list. Yeah. First class seats available, economy available. I punched up a flight map of a plane that was leaving at 230. There was probably 75 to 80 empty seats. So not only is United running on a limited schedule, but those planes they have are only

probably 25% full. We can go to Vegas next weekend for $57. Here's what I already want to ask before the close. the show. Maybe no one will do that because I don't know who's listening and who's not. Everybody's at home teaching her children right now. If anybody has gone on a commercial flight in the last two weeks, how full was the plane? Because every flight that I looked at on the flight, I'm a United Southwest Geeks, I like to look and see, every flight I saw had 90% of the plane open. You know how you have first class seats? So you have like 18 and then all the frequent flyers get to take

those seats. There were 15 open first class seats. Wow. No, so not only are the airlines reducing their schedule, they're cutting those flights back to say eight or nine at eight or two or three, and those flights are empty. So if you've been on a commercial flight in the last two weeks, how full was your flight? I'm just curious because I don't, I don't think anybody's flying anything close to capacity at this level. It's sad. Do you can go for, there's some round trips for like 35 bucks to Vegas right now. $35? Yes.

What are on? Well, spirit. But 57 if you want to do United. That's basic economy. Now, basic economy. Now, here's the deal on that. They're not going to give you your seat until you get to the airport. Yeah, but there's flights so wide open.

Yeah, you should be in first class then. Well, here's the problem. If you're going to Vegas, you've got no casinos to go to. Yeah, you should go. There's nowhere to go. There's nowhere to go. New York flights are being cut. I didn't even fly to New York.

half the cases in America over there. If you fly to New Orleans, you can't leave, or if they won't let you back in the state for it. What is it? Two weeks or something like that? You're a quarantine? Yeah, you don't want to get trapped in New Orleans. About three, four days is enough. No offense to Gordy. I mean, what is, what's a French quarter like right now?

It's got to be a ghost town. You think it's clean? Has this allowed Bourbon Street in the vomit and the trash to get cleaned up? Is Bourbon Street clean right now? Is there any puke on Poinders? We should call a Bourbon Street Barbed. and ask them They're not going to answer.

That's true. They're not going to answer. Well, who would be taking out? Can you take out hand grenades? Crystal? Can you go hurricanes from Patos? This is awful. Can I curbside pick up a gallon of hurricanes?

Mike and Humble on 790. Mike, how are you? All right. When is the, when is the Texan, when is the draft and what do the Texas draft? What's the first draft date? They're in the second round. This is in April 23rd. April 25th.

Okay. He was talking about O'Brien going by capital letters. Yes. The only capital letter I can think of is DA. District Attorney?

When you get rid of Hopkins, that's the dumbest thing in the world. DeAndre Aiton, District Attorney. Take care. Bye-bye. D.A. Donald, Arnold.

David Anderson? David Anderson, D.A. Yeah. Um, T.A. I don't know what he's thinking about. Dumbass. Oh, that's what it was.

Okay. I got you. 2.27. Rome on a mobile. Uh-oh. To highlight his anniversary of his... Well, he didn't get roughed up. How much contact was there?

There was a little bit. He got pushed and then Jim, everyone, it got on top of him. We'll talk to Rome and Mobile about that infamous day next. 227 on Sports Talk 790. Official home of your Astros and Rockets and unofficial, unbiased home of everything else. Sports Talk 790.

229 on Sports Talk 790. We take this program until 3 o'clock with the A-Team of Adam Clanton and Adam Wux will be after that. Have we able to secure our guests at this point, Joe George? All right. We have the appropriate music. because, you know, he's got his own theme music. Do we have that? Perfect.

April 6th, 1994, the name of the television show on ESPN2 is called Talk 2. The host of that show joins us right now on the program. Rome on a mobile on Sports Talk 790. Hope you and your family are taking care of yourselves during this coronavirus. Mr. Rome, thanks for joining us. Who am I speaking to? This is Matt, along with Ross, and Joe George is our producer. Mel, how's it going, man?

Doing great. Thank you. It's Matt, but thank you anyway. What's up? I was calling you because you and Jim Ever got after it 25 years ago today. 25. Well, that was one of those things where a bully clearly got the best of the situation. And I feel like going forward, I've come out on the other side a lot stronger than that. But being bullied in that situation was clearly not cool. and not a good example for the other kids that were watching the program and maybe look up to Jim Everett at the time. Do you feel bad?

Chris Everett. Okay. Do you feel bad you continue to antagonize him right in front of you in front of a national television audience? I just got done saying he is a bully. And he ended up bullying me on national television and I was clearly the victim. What part of that didn't you understand, Mel? Don't you feel like you provoked him a little bit there, Jim? he said call me Chris one more time.

You did it, and then that's when everything really escalated. Who is this? Hi, this is Ronald. All right, Ross. What's going on, man? Good. How are you? And, I mean, so what do you think?

Didn't you feel like you escalated the situation in a childish way, Jim? No, no, not at all. I've looked at it a number of times. I've seen the footage like you guys have, I'm sure, and I clearly was the victim there. I keep trying to tell you that. I'm not sure what's not translating. I'm conducting an interview, and the next thing I know, he's knocking me on my... For no good reason.

Roman Mobile joining us here on the Matt Thomas Show, M-A-T-T-H-O-M-A-S. Jim, some people feel like that interview was... You did that intentionally to kind of spike your career. Would you agree that would be something that would be a fair criticism of you on that day? Is this Mel again? Yes, it is. Go ahead. Let me ask you a question. Let me answer your question with a question of my own.

and 1-800-636-86-86-8-6 is my telephone number. It's toll-free in the U.S. and in Canada. If you had a chance, Mel, to advance your career in any way, shape, or form, for example, if you wanted to plug your Twitter handle ad nauseum, would you not do that if you thought it would advance your career? I don't think the Twitter handle thing is a great example. I mean, you could have had a really nice, appropriate visit with him. maybe said let bygones through bygones and talked to a quarterback who at the time was still in the NFL.

Instead, your show went three or four minutes and then it went completely haywire. And again, I think it was very much you trying to take advantage of a spotlight you were given. And maybe your radio career took off because of that said interview. I only wish I had social media back then so that I could have given out my Twitter handle. which is Jim Rome. Rome is spelled R-O-M-E, by the way. It's just like when you plug your show, and it's at SportsM-E-L,

and you get followers, and then you have Twitter parties, and you get more listeners, and it's great for your career. It's not really understanding what the disconnect is between you and Ross and the other people there at the station

and what I'm trying to say here. I'm very patient, but I'm a big deal. And I can't take these questions If you're not going to listen to my answers, then compute them in your P-sized brain. Okay. Lastly, have you made amends with Jim? I mean, are you all close or at least cordial to each other? Chris and I do not talk.

We do not speak ever. How have you been holding up, Jim? Like, what are you doing the past the time? You've been working from home? I mean, how are you? This is obviously a- Let me jump in right there because I'm very interested in the question you're about to ask, and I think I can complete your sentence and then follow with the sentence of my own.

A lot of yoga, a lot of juice cleanses, a lot of prayer, a lot of meditation. And, of course, I pray to myself. Now, I have seen your show on CBS Sports Network. I know very few people have, but I know I've seen it once or twice. It feels like your show has a lot of notes in front of me, a lot of prep. As your producers, are they still prepping you for your show daily, despite the fact you guys are not in the same area? You know, not to give you too much of a peek behind the curtain.

Not really sure if you're aware of what that term means in the radio business. Sure. But I once upon a time had a producer who literally thought he needed to write every single thing I said. And pretty soon I figured out I could fire him, hire a daytime soap opera actor to be my producer, who would be a lot better to look at all day long. And then I could write everything and get more of the credit. than I already did. So the paper you're speaking of on the simulcast portion of my radio show that's on CBS Sports Network is basically props. It is props I'm using to make it look more important than I already

am. So basically your show is very organic than it's not a lot of rehearsal, not a lot of things written down. It's kind of off the top of your head. I think I like most about my show is not only all the things that you just mentioned along with everything else, but also, so the fact that it evolves as time goes by. It's always changing. It's always keeping up with the Jones, if you will, and in fact setting trends and pioneering the way for other radio hosts like you, Mel, if you want to someday get to my level. All right, last question, because I think it's very nice that one host to the other. What is going to be on your show tomorrow on the Jim Rome Sports Network? Absolutely no idea whatsoever, but I will be able to give out my telephone number. I will be able to

give out the text number, and I will be able to give out the email address. And pretty much that's all I've got planned right now. I got to go, Mel. You tell Ross and you have a great day, stay safe, quarantine your asses, and wash your filthy hands. Out. Thanks, James. Jim Rome on a mobile here on Sports Talk 790. Good stuff, James.

I'm glad he took time out of his busy day to join us for a couple of minutes. Well, his show ended about a half an hour. I have no idea when he's on or where he's on. I'm honest. I used to listen to that show religiously. Yeah. And then it got stale. Right.

It is what it is. It is what it is. He's on the CBS Sports Network. Okay. Which I don't get. I'll take your word for it. You don't get it? He's got, I think I do get it.

Or, at least I used to. I don't know. I have whatever special Red Zone package explaining it. Direc TV dropped CBS Sports Network and gave me NBA TV, which I like much more. Oh, okay. You finally have NBA TV. That's good. Yeah.

I love the hardword classics. Do you know how many followers Jim Rome has on Twitter? Probably quite a few. 1.3 million. Who, can you see who follows him that we work with? Oh, that I follow? Yeah. I can.

Josh C. follows him. That's one of our producers. Does Adam follow? Reed Ryan follows him. Clinton or Wexler? Jeff Blum follows him. Chandler Rome. I don't know if there's a relation there. I think they're cousins.

Sham Sharania follows him. Albert Breer, Brian McTaggart. Adam Clanton. Oh, Adam Clanton does. Yeah. Adam's a big Jim Rome fan, I think. Oh, I think. Didn't Adam get him coffee one time? I think so. Oh, no, that was when Jay Moore was here is when Adam got... Chris Gordy follows Jim Rome.

Okay, we're good. And that's it. And Michael Garfield, your favorite. All right, there you go. I do not follow him. I don't either. I'm sure his show. So people are very confused as to who that was on Twitter. He said, who is this guy and who is Mel?

You're Mel. Yeah. Jim could not properly name me. That's fine. He's a busy guy. Okay, what else is going on? We got one more segment and a half left to go on the show today. We're kind of feeling the hit of...

I'm not feeling no hits, Matt. shows flown by. Good. Because tomorrow's going to be even better. You're trying to book some people like a mother-in-show. Yeah, I'm working on a couple people. How are you successful? Any rejects? Any hell knows?

We're working. We're working on it. We'll have somebody tomorrow that you miss hearing from. I've got down to a couple of finalists. So we're just going to try to keep going that way. Tonight's the Monday Night Football is the 2006 game between the Saints and the Falcons. the first game in the Superdome since Katrina. Okay. I'd rather have 1978 older's dolphins.

If you're going to show classics, show real classics. But I told you, those are kind of like, those games are almost like a different game. I'm okay with these recent classics they're running. Which, by the way, speaking to that, we'll have some on over the weekend. Every weekend we've been pumping out some classic stuff on Sports Talk 7.9. Yeah, Friday. This Friday? Rockets Lakers.

And that was the The dawning of Smallball, the debut of Robert and Covington, although they were doing it before. It's just Clint Capella was out. Right. Out, out. Saturday is Astros Rangers

with a Josh Reddick catch in the ninth inning. Spoilers. I think people knew it. Oh, okay. And then Sunday will be the Astros and the Orioles where Yordon Alvarez hits three home runs in a game. Is that when they scored like 20 runs? I think I think I hit a home run on that game.

No, you didn't. Baltimore. You're talking about a sad city. That's a great sports town. And the Orioles obviously are a huge part of that. But, man, they have sucked for a long, long time. Oh, that's when they beat them 23 to 2. I would like to listen to some of that. How long it's coming on Sunday?

It's like a five-hour game. Well, our programming is noon to 6 is that 23 to 2 game. That's what we ought to do. We don't care what the results are, just as long as they can cover up air time on the weekends. Because why would you want to listen to Rob, what's the game, Rob Parker? Of all the horrible national hot take machines in history, Rob Parker's the worst, I think. On Fox Sports Radio. Okay.

Sure. 241 is our time. 713212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-790. If you want to reach out through Twitter, you can do that as well. At SportsMT, at SportsRV, and at Joe George Radio. I feel like Joe should get a minute of Chicago sports talking. least once for me. No, we don't need to do that.

Are you sure? Chicago Sports Minute. Yeah, we're not doing that anymore. How are the Blackhawks holding up? I don't know. We're not doing the Bears podcast anymore, so. Oh, why not? Why not? Because I'm focusing on Houston. Oh. Oh, you're not doing Jim Boyland? Should he remain coach of the Bulls? Well, the answer to that is clearly no, because he's an idiot. Hey, I like Jimmy. I've known Jimmy for a long time.

Well, he's a terrible coach. Well, maybe they don't like his system. Maybe that he's just trying to be tough guy with a bunch of soft NBA. player. Do you call timeouts when you're down 15 with 30 seconds left? Are you hating on Lori Marker? Is that what you're trying to tell me? He can go to and he wants out.

Oh, see, I knew what this was. This is an anti-Jimboil. It's anti-Chicago Bulls. No, I love Zach Levine. I love Wendell Carter Jr. I love Kobe White. Does Chicago love those people? Probably not.

Kobe White's got great hair. Great hair. You know, we should do a daily White Sox minute. Dallas Keiko doing this. That would be for Sager. Oh, that's right. Are you a Cubs guy or a white sock?

You guys butt heads about this? Yeah. That's fun. I'm a Cubs guy. That's the reason why you've got to listen to Windy City Saturday right here on us. Space City Saturday. I like that. It's got a great lead in.

I'm never going to get that name of that show right. I can tell you that for sure. Why? Because he's petty. I'm not petty. I even tweeted out your show today. Petty. Oh, I'm petty.

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It's back. Hey, it's the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 790. Some more NFL news coming in as we wrap up this final segment of the Matt Thomas show for a Monday. 713212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-7-90. Antonio Brown-Ross hires a brand-new agent. to try to resurrect his NFL career. Something about an name of Ed Wazelouski.

And I'm sure I'm butchering the pronunciation. It doesn't matter. Does he have a future? Does Antonio Brown ever play in the NFL again? No. I agree. I was hoping we weren't going to agree. But we do agree.

I don't agree. I think he'll play in the NFL. I could definitely see somebody taking a chance on him. But, I mean, he's still got all those pinning cases. Yes or no. I said now, but I could see it. Well, it's not definitive. No, I'm asking your opinion.

Is it a yes or is Antonio Brown going to play it? If I have to predict, no. But if he says, yeah, yes, it wouldn't surprise me. That's, I mean, that's a fact. Well, yes, but I was asking your opinion. I don't care about the facts. Okay, well. That's right.

Do you believe Antonio? I say no. He doesn't play again. I say no. He won't play another note. All right. And Joe is screening right now, but I want to know why he thinks. Because, I mean, if the Raiders are the team that kicks you the curve,

but it's almost like that's your last that's your what is that what was that show in the mississippi um last chance chance you it was a good show i only watched the first season though i yeah it felt like it's the hard knocks we've the same episodes every week you know all right so so explain joe why you think he's going to get one more chance because all these terrible people have gotten chances before and i know a lot of it's the cowboys and the raiders and he already ruined his chances with the raiders yeah mike mayag is not picking up the the phone of Ed Wes Galuski or whoever met. I like it. I like it.

Wescalooski. I like it. But Randy, Greg Gregory, Greg Hardy, Alden Smith is now back in the NFL or trying to get back in the NFL. Greg Hardy's an MMA. Yeah. Antonio Brown, you know, he's on that all-decade's list team. And because he's an incredible.

How old is he? He's like 30, right? Is he 30 even? How many NFL, how many NFL receivers? Let's say he need to go. He'll be 32 by the time of the next season starts. So where is he speed-wise? where is he in terms of a number of hits he's taken the last year.

We know his brain's got issues. I think for his health, he should not play another down in the NFL. I think guys, honestly, if Antonio Brown was 26, I would lean towards what you said. But these receivers wants to get past 30, the only team that wants to pay big money for the guys over 30 are, well, it's the Houston, Texas, but that's under here there. To me, if it's a no, it's going to be more Antonio Brown wants to get paid and wants a good contract, and no one's going to offer them more than $3 million. they'll come back at first. Well, hopefully this agent, if Antonio Brown is really serious about playing in the NFL, the agent says if somebody offers you one year, three million dollars,

you thank them over and over and over again. And just take it. Right. And go back. Yeah. Because guys, he has no leverage, right? He's got, he cannot command any sort of serious dollars. No, he's, yeah, he's going to need money.

So maybe Joe is right in that the fact that he will need money and be desperate and maybe somebody will take a flyer on it. But if I were an NFL team, I would not even take the phone call. Because here's the thing. Wasn't there the audio last week of Bruce Ariens? Yeah. He's like not even close to being interested. Because saying about this.

The Raiders take many, many troubled players. Bill Belichick has a history of taking numerous players. Strike one, strike two. For two teams in the same year that have a history of doing it? To get rid of them. To get rid of them is a terrible, terrible sign. And the suspension questions and how effective is it going to be? How crazy is he?

I have to think he won't catch on somewhere. What does he have left in the bank? Is he broke? Maybe. Because I'm thinking of anybody that would not be able to handle his money well, it would been him. Maybe. I mean,

he didn't want to pay the moving guy. I just, I don't know. Because here's the thing, guys, I still think he's got something left, but he is mentally not there. I mean,

there are serious mental issues. He cost himself millions upon millions with messing up everything with the Raiders. And remember the first thing he bitched about with the Raiders? he was complaining about his helmet. Oh, no, it was the toes, right? Yeah, he burned his foot. He burned the skin off his toes. He freezer burned the skin off his toes.

Frost bitten. And then it was his helmet right after that. He has made apparently $70 million in his NFL career. Okay. Well, hopefully he hasn't blown through all that. If he's broke after making 70 mil, yeesh. I mean, he has nothing else to do. He's got no skills, correct?

Nothing. Well, you know, he can work at a dairy queen or something. Terry Queen You imagine Welcome to drive-thru This is Antonio What can I make for you today? You can probably actually screw up your order

Can I get a Oreo blizzard? No, you don't want that You want Snickers No, I want Oreo I said you wanted a Snickers He's scared to go into the freezer Because you don't want to burn anything off

Well, he's like double-wrapped his toes He won't go into the freeze Hey man, can you grab us We need some lettuce We're low, no man, I'm not going back there I'm scared Tonyo Brown Here, unfortunately, I think there's

He's crazy He's got mental issues There's no doubt in my mind We tease about Derry Queen I think I think it's headed If this new agent can't fix him I think he's headed for a road Of even worse stuff

And that's unfortunate I think he needs a doctor I think he needs help I mean this is just me speaking aloud I don't know But I'm not his doctor But he seems like a legitimately crazy person Yeah I don't think you can be a medication

Playing the NFL He needs to be on meds Let's go to Steve on the east side on 7-90. Steve, thanks for holding. Good afternoon. Hey, hey, do you recall Jim Everett sitting out the draft in order to avoid being drafted by the Oilers? I do not. Was it sitting out or was it I'm not going to play for the Oilers?

Well, maybe that was it. If you draft me, I will sit out. Yeah, maybe that was it. Yeah, maybe that was it. Okay. And that happens actually more often than you want to think about. In fact, the last player I can think of that did that was when the Chargers drafted Eli Manning and he said, I'm not going to play for you. That's right. Yeah. So that wasn't the first time, was it.

No, no, but that was well after. I'm looking it up here. Thanks for the phone call. The Oilers traded him to the L.A. Rams. One-time Pro Bowler. Jim Everett. I'm trying to see what the scenario was. I want to say, yeah, I want to say that he told the Oilers.

And I'm trying to think this is going back, well, this is going back over 20 years. Maybe it was, you know, you could always start negotiating your contract with the number one picks. Mm-hmm. There weren't slots back then, so you could pay whatever you wanted to. And I think that the Oilers and Everett never could get, could never come to an agreement on what his contract was going to be. He was a third overall pick. And then traded right away. Yes.

Hmm. The Wikipedia doesn't have anything about it. But yeah, I want to say that there was something financially wrong with them that he got trapped into a trailer right away. So, yeah. But that happens quite a bit. Is there anybody since then in the NFL that it said, I'm not playing for that team?

The Oilers got all-pro guard, Kent Hill, William Fuller, and three draft picks for Jim Everett. If Jim Everett was trying to play for the Texans and didn't want to play there, you would have gotten, if Bill O'Brien was negotiating the deal, you would have gotten one seventh round pick. And then to swap thirds.

Come on, Matt. When does he get good value in return? When? Everett spurned a four-year, $2.7 million contract with the Oilers, but said his reasons for not signing had more to do with the Oilers already have a quality quarterback in one Warren Moon. Yeah, why would they be wanting to go for Jim Everett?

I mean, didn't they try to get Warren Mooted every turn. Yeah, multiple times. Hmm. You know, Warren Moon used to own a chocolate chip cookie company. Really? Yeah. What was it called?

I think it was called Warren Moon's cookies. That's it? I think so. Don't hold me to it. It's not like Moon chips or something kind of... I was in the business at the time, but apparently the day he eventually signed here and came here, he brought cookies to the press conference and immediately became a huge media of darling.

When you feed the media, Ross, incredible things do happen. It goes well for you. You've known that. That's a fact. Somebody else also fed media. I want to say Scotty Pippen fed the Rockets media. There was something where they served pizzas one night or something. Did he bring Larsa?

I went to a party one time. Scotty Pippin and his wife were there. You were parting with Scotty Pippen? I went to Eddie Johnson's birthday party. Okay. Eddie and I were doing, we did weekly radio shows together. And he's like, hey, I'm having a party right across street from the summits. We're going to play a game.

It was like an afternoon game because you need coming. my wife came and we were it was me my wife kim yes charles was across the way barclay pippin was on another another table and charles asked my wife for the salt and pepper shakers and she she was shivering she was like oh my god charles barkley is asking me for the salt and pepper how lucky am i'm like i don't know i did you know could you just pass it over he's kind of hungry those were fun teams they didn't they did not get along with each other but they were fun Yeah, that's true. They were fun.

That was a star-setting team. It was a weird, I mean, Scotty Pippin the Rocket is one of the weirdest all-time rockets, right? Antoine Carza Rocket was weird. Big dog. Just go in there and muck up the joint and get a bunch of fouls. Who else was weird during that time? As a rocket. How about Vin Baker, former Rocket great?

Mark Jackson. Basically every new, former New York Nick to Jeff Van Gundy trying to bring over. Was Jalen Rose ever a rocket? I felt like you played for everybody else. Rod Strickland, Rocket Great. Dang. We had to go back and look at the 97-0-02 Rockets and see how strange that group was.

It was very strange. And that's when I was watching every game. When I was like in high school, I'd just come home and watch every Rockets game. They were not good. Those were like, what, 44 and 38? Those were dark days. Yes.

All right. For Ross, for Joe George. Joe, you get to hang out with your other buddies. Adam Wexler, Adam Clinton. They call themselves what? I believe they call themselves the A team. And they're up next. Talk to you guys tomorrow beginning at 12 noon. Ross, you have the nightcap at 6.

It's going to be entertaining and fun and wonderful. And Joe will still be here, I presume. Joe putting in some serious hours. Give him a three minutes of Bears talk between 65 and 7 and 7.com. Talk to you all tomorrow at noon on 790.