The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - The Matt Thomas Show: The Last Dance, Draft Technical Issues, Former Bulls TV Tom Dore

Episode Date: April 20, 2020

So much larger than life. Yeah. Lunch timers is the Matt Thomas show. 12-4 in H-town. What's happening in luncht timers? Good afternoon to you and welcome to a Monday edition of the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 790 with our producer Joe George. Co-host, sidekick friend of the show, sports. RV, who absolutely is killing

it with his old school Rocket logo. Thank you. My favorite shirt. I already went through all your credit cards. He left his credit cards and his keys. Yeah, man, pay your bills. We got declined and everything. We had a Sky Mall. We were trying to order everything out of a Sky Mall, and they declined us.

Do you ever notice all those credit cards you have are like those prepaid? What's up with that? Burners. It's got burners. By the way, Indie Kalu will be a part. He makes his debut on the Monday Night Meeting. Oh, does he? Yes, at 8 o'clock.

Two. You've missed two. Two. I didn't get invited for the first. Yeah. No, no, you got invited and didn't reply. The second one said, I might be there and you didn't show up. So you are, no, no, no.

Oh, for two. I tried. Why don't you get on the microphone? You're going to talk. Come on now. Get the second one. That's the second one. Yeah, that one's out working.

Here we go. Come over to this one. There you go. I tried. But not only did I try. I took time away from family time as I was training the boys. And I tried to log on. but for whatever reason

it just didn't work. Yeah. What kind of training you're doing? You got... The hill. We've got to run in the hill. Oh, okay. Did they hate you?

Yeah. You know what? You're like Michael Jordan's father? I don't know if they hate me, but they hate what I have them doing. Are they competing for your attention like Michael Jordan's father? The boys are.

I didn't realize that Michael was filmed that way towards his older brother and apparently the older brother was a chosen one for a while. Did y'all hear how he idiotically missed the second one? Yeah, I did. We're going to talk about that.

Oh, what happened? Okay. I'm not that big of it. No, it's that big of a deal. Oh, yeah. What I heard it was a 10-part documentary. And they said parts one and two. Oh, because you didn't know, you didn't even know that there's going to be a second part?

After the first one, I was, oh, this is great. I turned it all right downstairs. You're like, wow, good show. Can't wait for the next one. Oh, by the way. I wonder what episode two is. You'll go to the next week. By the way, another thing.

You are a multimillionaire, okay? I mean, that's congrats, props to you. That's hard. hard-ass word that's NFL career, you put your money away properly, you got a great rental company you're doing now, I mean, you're doing very well for yourself. Why are you cutting

the damn cord? That was more because I found myself watching too much television than money. That was more trying to stay discipline, because I will say this. I try to be disciplined in, you know, things that I do, but if there's a good episode or good bingeworthy, like Ozark,

I was watching that like crack. Have you finished up season three? I finished that in like two days. I'm watching some stuff that is not even in English just because I'm binge watching it. So I said, you know what? I need to cut back. Okay.

That's why I cut the cord. Take care of the children. Let them watch a direct TV. Put the games on. Here's the thing. I never thought I'd be a dad to say, y'all need to watch more TV. They watch their phones.

You know this. I know. Oh, yeah. Same thing. Like, we'll be in the movie room and I'm all excited to putting on a movie for everyone to watch. Then I look around and these idiots are just staring at the phone the whole time.

That's why they're running the hill. Yeah, exactly. Put the phone down and get on that hill. And you know what? I told him Matt Thomas needs me at 8, so we're running the hill early today. Oh, yeah. 8 o'clock tonight, Monday night matchup, Monday night meeting on Facebook.com slash sports talk 790. And the best part is you don't know what the questions are coming, nor does anybody.

So it's on Facebook life? Is that right? Yeah. Okay. And I can smoke my cigar. Absolutely. I can sip on my vodka. No question.

Matter of fact, I will drink a diet squirt on the ear tonight during the Monday night meeting. You know a skirt on air? No, I'll drink a diet squirt. You'll drink squirt? No, a diet squirt. A diet squirt. The grapefruit juice, soda. Yeah, it's delicious.

Okay. So you'll drink squirt. So will you just squirt it into your mouth or have it squirted in your mouth? No, you pour in a cup and you drink it. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's a soda. Okay. So I didn't know if the squirt is, you know, is there some kind of trajectory where it squirts into your mouth?

No, you just open the can and you pour it over ice and you consider it like a beverage. It's like anything else. So does a squirt? right away or do you have to prepare it? Do you have to rub it real fast or shake it real well or stimulate the bottle? Then the squirt would go everywhere if you did that. Okay. Nobody wants that.

It's part of the fun, isn't it? Oh, geez. Are you done? Come on now. I'm done. I've never heard of a squirt. Well, that's more about you than it is what I mean. Tush. If the bottle doesn't squirt within 30 seconds. Oh, yeah.

Let's see. Joe turning his microphone off. Oh, my God. Get out here, Indy. Monday night meeting tonight at 8 o'clock. Facebook.com slash sports talk. More squirt talk at 8.30 tonight. Probably so.

All right. Where are we going with all this? I don't know. We didn't even have any of open the show. You were just talking about Indy. And by the guys that are before us, they started to, we didn't start the shuttle four after. It's okay.

I mean, I got so much to get off. my chest. Oh, I got until 3 o'clock. We got plenty of time. Take your time. Look, if you didn't watch The Last Dance Last Night, then there's something wrong with you because there was nothing else on. It was really good. It was everything is advertised. There are tremendous layers to it. Good, interesting. A nice little open, nice little two hour open, I would say, you know, like an opening scene. What would you call it? Act one. Hooked. Hooked from the mini, I mean, just like Ozark was. I mean, it made me want to hopefully run the Netflix and maybe, all 10 episodes will be on there.

Chris Cordy just said a minute ago that even season, episode 8, which will be in six weeks, isn't even done yet. Actually, 6 through 10 aren't done yet. Is that right? That many? Yeah, that's what the director said on Friday. He said that they were, I think on, on one of the shows he was on, he said that they were at like the one-yard line for episode 6 and 7.

And then they're marching down the field is what he used for episode 10. What is it, is the second 13 on the 45? I think they're across the 50. Okay, that's good. So, yeah, the last four episodes, they're not done yet. So they're in field goal range. Yeah. So let me just say this.

We got a lot to get to about it. And this, we got just a couple of minutes left in this segment. First and foremost, the fashion. Yes, the 90s suits. No, the 80, well, that plus the beret. Yeah, well, he was in France. But I think he wore the beret in the United States, too. I feel like Jordan did that too.

Okay. But I want to go back before that. the early Michael Jordan Chicago Bulls warm up jerseys with those big ass collars

I mean that's what we need back when the NBA returns. I really like those early Bulls jerseys with the script

in Chicago in the script. I love those those are way better than the ones they have now they're had it for one season

and then they got rid of they didn't make any sense they're so classic they look great I know that's the one the Jordan jersey I had when I was a kid

it was the script one that's the same that's the same script Chicago White Sox have. It's the exact one because Ryan's Darvone's. By the way, I talked, I told this to Joe before the show, Ryan's Ronsor for being in his, what is he, 84, I think. He looks good. He looks really good. Mama Jordan also.

Mama Jordan looks 35. It doesn't look that old. Yeah. She looks like she's in her 40s. Yeah, she looks young. Yeah, they've done okay for themselves. Yeah. So, so much to get to. And we'll just have, we'll just have random things come into play. And again, if you didn't see it, we're not doing this spoiler thing. You should have always. watched it last night. Yeah, there's nothing going on in sports. There's nothing else that would have been more important than that last night. 713-212-5-790, if you would like to give us your thoughts on what you saw last night, what you liked, didn't like, and I'm just so eagerly anticipating. And I wouldn't, and Ross, I wouldn't even a big Chicago bullf. I mean, I've

always been a rocket fan through and through. I appreciated who they were. Like, I appreciated the Showtime Lakers, like I despised yet still appreciated the greatness of the Boston Celtics. It was an amazing dynasty. And I know that when the dynasty gets in a playing the two different three-peats. There's the, well, it should have been an eight-peter. It should have been at least one to four-peat in the mix. That's, I'm not getting into that. That's been a 25-year-old argument. I just want to appreciate what was the events yesterday. And things that, frankly, I didn't know about because I didn't care about the Chicago Bulls' intricacies day-to-day. But let's talk about Jerry Krause first to start out, the no longer

with this general manager. And just some random thoughts about him. We'll do that next. It's the Matt Thomas show. 713212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-790. This is Cougars head coach Dana Holerson. Matt's kind of like Shasta without putting on a costume. He's a big old... The Matt Thomas show continues on Sports Talk 790.

1217. Good afternoon. Once again, Houston, Texas. My name is Matt. That is Ross across the way. Joe is in the next room. AT&T, Southwest. wish you should be broadcasting our show. We'd be great, especially when I'm wearing a,

what would you call this? Pink collared shirt today. More of a magenta. Ross, we're in the old school rocket logo. Yes. I had to dress up for my, for my appearance tonight at 8 o'clock. Yeah, we got the Monday night meeting, and we'll have it tonight at 8 o'clock on Facebook.com slash Sports Talk 790. We'll have all of our hosts to hopefully tweet it out, promote it there, to have you guys there. All right. So let's get to. And again, we've got some other some NFL things I want to get to, but the last answer was clearly, I think the must-see event of the night. And really the weekend, we've been so anticipating and it didn't disappoint. Jerry Krause, I'm just going to run some various facts.

You guys can say, I agree, don't disagree. I think it was a very good general manager. I mean, responsibility of put a team around your franchise player, and he did. He absolutely took the greatest player ever to play. and it will be hard-pressed me ever to say otherwise. Even though LeBron is the second-gradest, I still have MJ number one. He put an amazing team behind him.

Kareem's in that discussion, I will say. Okay. Made relevant trades. The Bill Cartwright for Charles Oakley trade was the right move. He was right about that. I don't know, because I didn't follow the Chicago Bulls draft history. And granted, the drafts kept getting smaller and smaller as we were going on. But I felt like there were very few missteps in a mix.

they well I mean the trade for Scottie Pippin obviously was amazing they were picking at eight and they traded up to fifth in exchange for olden polynese polonis polonis how do you I forgot how to say that polonis I know the name but I can't remember olden polonis and was the greatest Robin to any Batman has ever been right yeah which puts them in the top 50 of course not above you know much better than a same Graham. Oh, Hal Greer. Howe Greer. Or Sam.

Or his brother Sam. His cousin. What I think Jerry Krause was not was a good people person. Clearly. I think you have to do that, especially with a small NBA team. Oh, I thought you're going to say a small person. Well, he was small. I thought, frankly, Michael Jordan verbally abused him a lot.

Yeah, apparently, Pippin got real bad that last year. In the last year where he didn't hide the fact he was, because you can be subtle when you take jabs of people i think probably mj was a little subtle to you have to lower the rim and uh they'd get in the layup line and we have to lower the rim that type of stuff but the fact that no one called them crumbs in the first two episodes shocking to me i mean like it was well known that he was called crumbs kraos yeah i was just surprised everyone called him jerry well they'll they'll get to that we can still get at eight episodes some level of respect in the first two episodes some until we found out that Scotty Pippin

had just openly just swearing at him and about him on the same bus. He obviously was thirsty for attention and thirsty for recognition and couldn't believe that I'm the one that built this, which he didn't completely build. Michael Jordan built that franchise. Rod Thorne made the pick,

but Michael Jordan's excellent got them to where they are. But he clearly was irritated by the fact that Phil Jackson was getting credit. that his teammates were getting credit and that no one was saying, man, Jerry Crush, you are the best general manager in the game. Because I'll be honest with you guys, and this is young in my sports career.

Joe, you were not, I think you were too young, and I think Ross you were probably in grade school as well. When you think of the great general managers in sports in the 1990s and 80s, Jerry West is the first name that comes to mind. You know, later in life,

Pat Ronnie, but that was a little bit towards 2000 when his coach. Red R. Back, I guess. Red Rback would certainly be in that in that mode. I never and again, Grant, I was also, I was only 20, 21, 22, so I didn't necessarily worry about other teams, general managers, but I would never have gone, man, that Jerry Krause, good for him. I always thought to myself, the Chicago Bulls are awesome because Michael Jordan is the greatest of all time. When you have the greatest of all time, you're going to win your share of championships. It will probably come up later in the show. I mean, he was a bit, it wouldn't, Krause, the one that wanted Tony Koo-coach and really was a big believer in him and what he could help.

Right. Well, he was part of multiple trades and Scott. I mean, the fact that you would take Scotty Pippen, and this is why I don't understand. I'm going to have to do some research probably off of the show. Scotty Pippen signs a seven-year contract worth $18 million, which was one of the worst contracts ever signed by an athlete. I mean, Andre Johnson's uncle thinks the deal was good. Short of that, nobody else thought it was good. So why would you want to trade a guy like that?

unless he was so mad about the original contract that he's like, I know what you're going to ask for when it's time to get paid, and I'm not going to give it to you. I don't care what you've done for us. I don't care that you're still very much as a prime of your career. I ain't going to pay you. Jerry wanted to build for the future. And they didn't address this last night in the documentary,

and maybe it's because Jerry's not here anymore to really talk about the trade. But Tracy McGrady says that he was being traded to the Bulls, for Scotty Pippen and Michael shut it down. Like that's the story that Tracy is told on ESPN. Mm-hmm. So that was one of the closest ones to happen.

Like that's a future for the... That's a move for the future that does make some sense because of the relationship they had. I mean, look at it now. And, I mean, the trading didn't really get... It was basically the last year of his deal was when they started talking about trading him.

And he was 32 at that point. Scottie Pippen. He still had four or five years left of prime Scotty Pippen. but you'd obviously Kraus never thought that you can build a franchise and build a team around Scottie Jordan was 35 Scottie was 32 so at that point that's you probably are thinking reset button

but why if he's the greatest Robin to your Batman I mean Star we were kind of actually teasing about where he was but nevertheless a terrific NBA all-time great why were you and again we're going to find out more about this as the series moves along I remember in the last four or five years of Michael Jordan Michael would go into Reinsdorff's office and the blank check would be there. Remember he was making, remember the pre-bird? He was making $25, $30, $30, $40 million a year.

So he's willing to write any amount of money for an older Jordan, but he's not ready to tear up and rewrite a contract for the number two guy in that franchise? I think it's a little inconsistent on the Ryan'serv's part. And Krause for that matter. Yeah, Michael Jordan came back for the $33 million, but I don't think he was making that much before that. I don't think it was consistent. I think that last year, one-year deal for $33 million was like a much bigger.

But how many of those that he signed? I thought he signed a few of those super ridiculous contracts. I mean, I would have to look through. I'm trying to pull up his contracts now. I just think, look, you know, there are some people that do believe that when you sign a contract, you are to hold of that contract. Okay. Yeah, the last two years he made $30 million and $33 million before.

that he was making $3.8 and $4 million a year. So Michael got fat and happy the last couple of years. Yeah. So they took care of Michael. So they in theory could have taken care of Scottie. Correct. And they chose not to. Now, you could say, you signed that, you got to live by that.

And also, as we were talking off air, if Pippen would have been a terrible basketball player and got hurt or was inconsistent or didn't help, then you weren't going to ask Scottie Pippen to take a pay cut. You know, he was committed to the seven years, 18 million. But even that was a bargain at that point. players most reasonable general managers most reasonable owners want to keep their players happy and Reinsdorf and or Kraus maybe probably more Reinsor of anything else it's like look I told you not to sign this deal but when you sign it we're done we don't renegotiate

and that's where I think things got surly with scotty look I think scotty can be a surly human being I mean clearly I don't think that his the way he handled his situation with his surgery clearly pissed off Jordan big time. Yeah, he's like, I'm not going to ruin my summer rehabbing. I'm going to go have a good time. I'll get the surgery with the season starts. Joe, do we know if Jordan and Pippen get along to this day? I think they do, but it's hard to say because we don't really see Jordan anywhere.

Yeah. But I think they do get along. You know, Scottie made more money his last two years with the Bulls in 2003 to 2005 than he did most of that entire contract? he made over $10 million. That's no surprise, yeah. From 2003 to 2005. How much did he make as a rocket?

$11 million, I believe. Yeah, $11, and then in Portland, he made $14, $14, $18, $20. It was just the Pippin I remember most vividly, unfortunately, is the Pippin that I remember as a rocket. And it just, it was just a bad chemistry mix. It just was bad. He went out in Portland. He was decent in Portland. He was decent in Portland and actually came back and did a little something with Chicago

before his career ended. But, you know, and I shouldn't let a couple of years in Houston ruin the legacy that it is. Because, again, what that documentary did is it did show how amazing Scotty Pippen was and how what a great finisher. And as Michael Jordan said, I never won a championship. And you know, that was always the thing is you heard, well, you know, Scottie never or Michael never won without Scotty. Michael was the first person to say, I would never have won a championship if not for Scotty Pippen. So there is credit on that end of two. So, yeah, so Krause, I tweeted out yesterday, Ross, I said, I don't think Krauss's family is going to want to watch much more of this because it's not going to put Jerry in a particularly good light here.

I mean, yeah, you did have some of them making their complaints, but I think they got the point across well that he knew what he was doing as far as from a personnel standpoint, and he helped build that team. He looked like a miserable human being, though. Yeah, I mean, I think Jerry's, I think they did right by Jerry. they were pretty factual, though. Yeah, I don't think enters a mischaracterization at all. I don't think that. Michael already took a shot at Jerry in Space Jam. Like...

Wait, what was that? I must have missed that. No, you've seen Space Jam. Of course I've seen Space Jam. So the guy that's in charge of the Monstars... Uh-huh. Yeah, look at a picture of him next to Jerry Krauss. Okay.

And he's from Moron Mountain. Like, it's Jerry. Like, I swear it looks like... People were tweeting about this last night. the guy from Space Jam, the little short, ugly dude, kind of looks like Jerry Krauss. So I think that's Michael's like real shot at Jerry. Just found out.

We're going to have Tom Doer join us in a half an hour, the television voice of the Chicago Bulls during that time. All right. So he'll be with us in a half an hour. And I just got an email from him, so that's going to be awesome. All right, 1228 is at times. So Tom Doored, TV Voice of the Bulls during that time. We'll be with us.

Talk about what he saw yesterday. He was live tweeting it yesterday. We're looking forward to visiting with him. we've got a published report out there in Ross is the Texans are maybe looking to trade down because 40 just seems a little high we'll have that plus the introduction of our draft contest questions

those are straight ahead as the Matt Thomas show continues at 1228 here on Sports Talk 790 719 7197-19. Time is 1232 it is the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 790 with Joe and Ross. I'm Matt 713-21-2-5-790 if you've got any impressions, thoughts, beliefs, reviews. You know what? I am, man, I just want to watch documentaries all the time. We've had a, I mean, even though we've had this terrible virus, we got this going on,

we've had Tiger King for a while. I mean, Tiger King was a good run. We need, we're just going to need to do nothing but docks, the rest of the right? And I started watching Total Debtalas again. Oh, gosh. Lord. I thought they were total, Bellas? Yeah, it was Total Divas, and then

they became such stars that they just said, forget the rest of you. Really? Totally. Do you really watch that? Oh, yeah. Why? Have you seen Nicky and Bree? Yeah, but that's all you watch it for? Correct. Do you have the sound on or off? More off?

Okay. No, I'm just kidding. They have a new book coming out, and I'm going to try to book them for the show. Oh, I'm Googling Total Bellas. Are they twins? Yes. Bree and Nicky. Bree and Nikki. Yeah, Bree's married to Daniel Bryan. Nicky is, I guess, engaged to some dancer she met on Dancing with the Stars.

She was hooked up with John Cena for a while. Okay. New book, May 5th, by the way, Joe. You're going to buy one? I don't read. Yeah. I can listen to them to it, I guess. All right.

You get the audio book? Yeah. I'm not going to speak sensually to you, Matt. Well, if I get him on the show, you never know. Okay. I'm trying to book like a muddle here, trying to get these interesting people. By the way, tomorrow on the show, Robert Covington and the Rockets will stop by at 1 o'clock. Well, Roco?

Not come in, but, you know, are you going to ask him if he likes to be called Roco? I'm absolutely going to ask him that. Because I'm always afraid to ask whether to use, you know, their nicknames. Did you ever talk to Russ about calling him the Brody? I didn't, but my, I have somebody said that they hated it. Because I don't, I've never called. He's been on your show twice. Yeah, I'll ask when he come back.

Do you like when he's called Brody? I mean, it's, I'm indifferent to it. It kind of doesn't make sense. That's why I'm saying. I think it's a, it's like bro, and it went to bro from bro to brodie, I think. Okay. So I'm just going to, I'm just going to say no on that. Roco does make a lot of sense.

And he'll join us tomorrow, 1 o'clock. Roco and lime. All right. What was I going? I don't know. Oh. Bella twins. Yeah, Bella twins.

Oh. So today the NFL is having a mock draft for the draft. Yes. Ross and I had a spirit of debate. Uh-huh. You're like, it's going to be fine. It's going to work out. Because let's be honest,

hold on. I don't mean it's going to be without a hitch and it's going to be 100% perfect and everything's going to be fun. I wasn't assuming that you were going to say that. Well, I needed to clarify. Mine is it's not going to be a total train wreck. It's going to be, there will be glitches, but overall, overall, the presentation, we won't go walk away saying this was a total train wreck. And that's why you have a mock draft.

Let me ask you this. The three of us have all been in fantasy football leagues, right? Yes. We've done them on computers. We've done them remotely. We've done it via phone, via text. We as normal human beings do it just fine. But we don't communicate to each other, right, during the mock draft online?

I mean, you communicate. Just over the chat, but you're not talking to each other to make the picks. Correct. So. I mean, but the teams aren't going to be talking to each other either. Well, that's the problem right now. So today the mock draft took place. Or maybe still going.

I don't even know. Adam Schaeffier is tweeting about it, yes. He tweets that he got a text from an NFL executive says there was a glitch, which, you know, glitches are going to happen, boys, right? Yes. The glitch came at the number one pick to Cincinnati. Well, Diana Rusini tweeted, text from a GM during this mock draft. There are early communication issues because 32 of us GMs are on conference call

and we didn't hit mute. Sounds awful. So like they can't mute it. Oh, my gosh. Now, this is why they're here to work out. the kinks. I mean, today is Monday. The draft is Thursday.

It's the most important today for these general managers just to get their thing. Not only not Thursday, but Friday and Saturday, too, to get the valued picks. So they're all, all 32 teams are on one big conference call. And then each of individual team needs to be on a conference call with their people. Is that what's happening? And then that's just like draining everybody's bandwidth apparently. Yeah.

That's what it sounds like. Let me ask you us. Why do all 32 need to be on the same? Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. Yeah, I don't know. Why don't they just call to Roger Goodell? Or just join the Zoom call once it's time. Let me ask you this.

Why even have Zoom on the video call of the pick? Can't Bill O'Brien pick up the phone and dial the commissioner's number and say, hey, commission, commission this is Bill. We're going to go with this. Yeah, I don't see why they don't just do it that way. It seems way more simple. What if somebody gets a, well, someone if somebody gets a hold of Roger Goodell's phone number? What if Frank Calliando does?

or anybody. But Frank could draft for the Raiders. He could pull it off. He could pull off maybe a Bella check. This is John. Well, you know what you do? How you prevent that is that you have to say, what's the magic password? What's the magic word?

You have to have a magic word? Yeah. I like that. Like a password for the nuclear codes or something, like the president would have? Like, here, I'll text you. Yes. You're the magic word. And when you call me, you have to tell me the magic word.

Right. Okay. What would be the Texans' magic word? word to Roger Goodell. Well, like, yours would be peach basket. T. T.

No, I would, my would, theirs would be capital T, no, capital E, capital A, capital. I got it. What is it? Versatility. Relative to.

Or relative to you. No, the password would be flattered organization. Okay. Nine and seven is not the bar. Bill O'Brien's looking for versatility and all this four divisions in six years, Brian. That's, those are all the past,

those are the proper words. So I'll just say this. Thank God it's Monday. But it doesn't feel great that they can't get the first pickoff right. I think you dumb it. See, here's the thing, boys. They are so scared that someone's going to infiltrate it, that they're opening up all these lines of communication

when I think the more lines of communication you open up, the greater chance for you to have some technical glitch where somebody gets to hear your conference call or see what's going on in your house before they should. That's why you have to dumb it down. You know what? Just call the commissioner. Because they're not going to put Thomas Demetroff that a general manager of the

line of Falcons on a screen and say, hey, commission, here's who we're taking. Commissioner is going to get this, he's going to write it down and he's going to pronounce, he's going to say who it is. And then the networks are going back to them and say, here's video of this particular person and go on. I just think if you dumb it down, that's where you don't have the problem. They should just get like a group text, like a WhatsApp group text going.

WhatsApp is good. Yeah. Snapchat would not be good. Yeah, you don't even want anybody snapping each other. You don't want TikTok. By the way, stop adults with TikTok.

TikTok's taking over, man. TikTok is taking over it, but it's really good. I'm not using it or looking at it. Oh, but the problem is TikTok on people I do follow Instagram. They're putting their TikToks on Instagram. Yes, people are putting their TikTok. TikToks and Instagram and Twitter.

I see more TikToks on Twitter than I do anything else as far as videos. I feel like TikTok should be for people 14 and under. All they're doing is dance moves. That's it. Yeah. Think, right? Probably. And if there's people doing magic and stuff like that on there.

Yeah, let the kids have TikTok. Us have grown-ass adults have other things. It's okay, Matt. We have Twitter. We have Twitter. We can just be mad at each other for endless hours. Yes. All right, 1240 on the Matt Thomas show, 713, 21, 2,000, 5.000.

Seven and a I tease us a second to go. Chronicle reports today that the Texans might want to move down. You know what? Bill, and this is true,

we don't know if it's true or not. But, well, there's smoke a little bit of fire. I mean, I don't think the Chronicles can put something out there that just would be a lot of us.

Well, who from the Chronicles? Just the Chronicle? Staffs? One of the Texans beat riders. So. John McLean? He's a beat writer, yeah.

He's saying that they may trade down. Okay. Man. Does he? know? Well, I mean, what is he bad? Is he about a thousand? What was the thing he said that absolutely, absolutely positively wasn't going to happen and it happened? I think it was Bill O'Brien getting an extension or something like that. We're all not going to bathe thousand. Trust my. This show was based on 650 betting average.

Yeah, but we don't claim to be insiders. He doesn't also report anything. He hears. But point of jays is that they must think this draft sucks. They already shift off ship the 57th pickoff for Brandon Cooks. They've already gotten rid of first round picks this year. They are the only team I've ever, and again, we should be patient on this one because maybe the draft does suck this year. Everybody keeps telling me how great the wide receivers are, how the quarterback's good.

I think tackles are supposed to be good as well. Tackles are good. But there's one NFL team, but maybe just doesn't want, maybe the Texans are afraid of the potential conference call dilemmas. They don't want any glitches. They don't need those three positions. So those are the best three positions. That's true.

Like they don't need a tackle wide receiver or a quarterback. They can use a tackle maybe. You could always use a tackle. Isn't it crazy that the 40th pick might be moved and that wind up the Texas might not even have a pick until, say, 55, 58, 62? I mean, what is a 40th pick worth in the world? Is it worth two-thirds? Is it worth a third and a fifth?

I mean, who's to say what it is? Depends. Probably somewhere somewhere in their neighborhood. What would you want for the 40th pick? Flip flip there, whoever, flip whatever team second and get a third maybe, depending on how far, how many places are you moving, you know? That's a good question.

Yeah, worst case, whatever second and a third, like Ross said. Like, what is the number one thing the team reads right this second? Pass rush. Yeah. And can you get that pass rush or it's picked 53? There have been plenty of pass rushes at 53. Yeah. I would say so.

So if you're not going for skill, depends. And you're looking for linemen or rushers, then maybe you can move down. It's just we've never seen in NFL history, at least, at least around these parts, a team that has been so adverse to keeping their upper end selections. The last time the Texans did something special

was to move up to get to Sean. And that was two general managers ago. 1244, the Matt Thomas show continues. We have a draft contest that begins today. If you would like to partake in such event, get a piece of paper ready or go to your email address right now and punch in M.T. at Sports790. And I will give you the questions next, 1244 on Sports Talk 790. Yo, this is Bun B. And my wife is the biggest fan of the whitest man in America.

Matt Thomas, Matt Troy. Reckless, ratchet, and don't give a fuck. All right, we're going to visit with Tom Doer, the former television voice of the Chicago Bulls. It actually helps run an energy company in Austin now. He's lived and awesome for quite a while, and I don't really know the background of him, but he will join us from the 512 next hour. He's not giving me his phone number yet, which is going to be difficult to reach him. Just do email correspondence and read his questions and answers.

That won't be particularly entertaining. But Tom Doer, former Chicago Bulls television voice, joins us here in about 10 minutes from now. All right, Rossi, we've done the annual draft contest, probably as long as the show's existed. Just for about as long as I can remember. Five questions. Each have a different point value. Actually, the, I mistyped the last question, which is the highest point value, and I'll fix it later on. I remember we definitely did it when JJ Watt was drafted. I have five questions, and you have until Thursday, 5 o'clock.

Okay. And you two do not give an answer. Why not? Well, wait until Thursday. What if we have a preliminary answer? I can change it. Are you going to do preliminaries? No, it's fine. Okay, that's fine. The one that always has to be in there, even though we know the answer to

but it just feels like Ross, it's part of tradition. By the way, if you want to play this contest, it's very simple. Go to your email right now, MT, or write it down for that matter. MT at Sports790.com is my email address. MT at Sports790.com. And just give me the answers. And if you win, we've got some great prizes giveaway. The three amazing restaurants, when they open up again, we'll send them off to you.

So you can use them for takeout if you want to. But my guess is, like, if I think first prize is Shama Goosha, you want to go eat there and just knock that out. Yes. Because, Ross, you and I've gone to Shamaguchi before. Yes, we have. And we have terrorized it. I would do it again. I'm willing to step up, Matt.

I miss a meat coma. I really do. Don't clip that. All right. So, m.T. at Sports790.com. M.T. at Sports790.com. Here is your 10-point question. Yes.

The obligatory. Well, the Texans draft a tight end. Yes or no. And that's why I remember we did it when J.J. Watt was there. Because J.J. Watt remember we were like, oh, well, they didn't take a tight end, but he was a tied-end in college. That's right for a little bit in college. For a little bit in college. All right. So first blush says no.

No? I'll say yes at some point. Joe, first thought, will the Texans draft a tight end? Yes. Okay. Now remember, we're not a whole need to do. Yeah, these are not on the record. The Thursday official on the record ones. I know, but if they trade back and Thaddeus Moss is sitting there, man, Thaddeus. He's so good. I like Thaddeus is a great name.

It is a great name. And he's Randy's kid, so he's going to be good. Yeah, oh, yeah. And Randy will come here to town. We'll get him on the show maybe once. Okay. You'll rub him the wrong way or something and then he'll hang up. Yeah, that's fine. All right. Number two, this is a 20-point question. Will the Texans make a trade at any point during the draft?

Yes. Yes. I'll say multiple. Feels that way, right? I'm going multiple. Okay. 30-point question. Tua's draft number. Hold on. Here are the options. One to five, six to ten, or eleven or more. Now, it feels like the dolphins, they're at six or they had five? Five. If the dolphins don't take him at five, couldn't he free fall a little bit?

Or if they take Herbert first? Yeah, well. Or love for that matter? I don't think love would be in the mix on that. Or somebody could trade up at that point. So first, this is your first opportunity here. First blush. One to five, first blush.

One to five, six to ten, or eleven plus. one to five yeah I gotta go one to five I guess take a tackle they've been teasing tackle no I think he'll go at three I think someone will trade up

oh to take Detroit spot at three yeah Detroit will take him or someone will trade up for him all right one to five six to ten I will go six to ten hmm okay

what do you're going one to five I did one to five as well yes all right 40 point question this is purely guess more offensive players or more defensive players will the Texans take out in the draft?

It better be defensive. I'll say defensive, but we'll see. It's a coin flip. And the 50-point question, although I think I've only put 40 on the last question, this is worth 50 points. What position will be the top pick of the Texans when the draft is over?

The options are quarterback, running back. Next category is wide receiver and tight end. O-line is a category. Defensive line slash linebacker is a category. cornerback slash safety is a category, 50 points. What position will the Texans take first? Now, they can make pick and trade, but I'm talking about when the draft is done,

and there's a very first top name on that list. What position is it? It better not be the first two. I will, I'll say cornerback. It's just a pure guess. Yeah, I'm guessing right now. I'm not locking that in. Yeah.

I will go with, and I will not lock this in either. I will not lock in defensive line slash linebacker. Especially Rossi if they trade down. Way. Defensive line linebackers have quit a pretty wide net. Yeah, it is. But there's been the, the team is full of the Deidavion Clonis guys. Okay, well, you should say edge rusher, interior line or linebacker.

No, we're not getting that technical. We keep it simple. We keep it simple here on the radio show. Yeah, that's true. all right so yeah i'll go defensive line linebacker linebacker if you want to if you have not seen the questions we didn't hear us do them just a minute ago

go to my Twitter account at sports mt it's up there and again send those responses to mt at sports seven we should make a blog out of that we should we'll get somebody on it uh who would that be i would recommend me if it's at three o'clock i'll do it thank you before the top of the hour hi jay you're on 790 good afternoon this is a y oh i'm sorry a y what's going on Nothing much.

It's like, I just want to make a quick comment. Today makes this exactly five weeks when Matt Thomas broke the news about the Dandre Hopkins trade, and I was your first caller, and I asked if it was a joke or not. And you told me it was not a joke. That's Matt Thomas. Okay, five weeks have passed, but for me, it's still fresh in my mind. I can't get over it as a Texan fan. But I just want to say this.

if Bill O'Brien and the Texans don't make it to the Super Bowl, or at least the AFC championship, he should be fired. There's no, no, the owners who think of removing him, because there's nothing that can justify that trade except he gets to the Super Bowl this season. And that's it for me. Thank you. Ayie is still recovering. Y doesn't sound like he's over it.

He's not. You need to get to acceptance, though. in the five stages of grief, Matt. Where are we in that? I'm in acceptance. DeHenry Hopkins is not walking through that door, Matt. What are the five steps again? Are you going to make this up?

Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and then acceptance. Yes, what he said. I'm in bargaining, I think, where I'm still trying to comprehend why the trade happened and maybe Bill O'Brien. I try to understand his perspective. I don't think I'll get to acceptance until after week one of the regular

season, boys. I'm going to accept. He's gone, Matt. I think it's the depression is once you see Hopkins actually in a Cardinals uniform. You think so? That's going to hurt. NFL Today report. Let's go to J.B. in New York. Thank you, whomever.

Kevin Harlan. Look at Arizona's first play from Scribitch. Seven step drop. Caterbury throws a deep ball and he finds his new friend DeAndre Hopkins, 57 yards. Arizona 7, Tampa, Zero. Back to you in Cincinnati,

James Lofton and Andrew Canelon? Yeah, I'd probably bring you back to anger. So just because we reach the stage, doesn't mean we can't go back to the stage. I don't know. We'd have to talk to a psychiatrist about this. Let me tell you, we will need to have an official therapist of the Matt Thomas show.

If he grabs 15 touchdowns and catches more than 1,000 yards in receiving for Arizona, we're going to need some serious therapy. I'm probably invite Cal on the two on the call, too. I don't know if he's going to pick up. Matt. That's true. All right. If Tom Doer sends me his phone number, we'll have him next. The former television voice of the Chicago Bulls to talk about Last Dance. 1258. It is the Matt Thomas show. 713212-5-790. If you want to reach out on Twitter, it's at SportsMT, at SportsRB, and at Joe George Radio with a message here for ProDunk Hoops.

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and hopefully he's checking his email so he can. can call us and give us a number because it's hard to do a radio interview without a phone number. This is our number two of the Matt Thomas show where Tom Doer is going to join us here, hopefully soon rather than later. He was the former television voice of Chicago Bulls during the last dance, that championship year. And the last chance for romance. Glad you're able to appreciate the goddess that is. Selina.

One of Miss Donna's summer. All right, while we wait for Tom, you have a, we have a Twitter beef going on with a TV AMC sound. Yes, Yanuk Gakwe. Of course, the pass rusher defensive end for the Jacksonville Jaguars, Pro Bowl, or all that. He has been in a dispute with Jaguars brass this entire offseason. He wants to be traded. They franchise tagged him, and he's still waiting for the trade. So he's been tweeting about the Jaguars and how they need to.

He's basically been in a tweet storm. I mean, you look at the last week of everything he's talking about. He's gone crazy. And apparently one of his latest tweets, this from 48 minutes ago, he tweeted Tony Kahn, who is the son of the owner, Shod Khan, and in the organization of the Jaguars, he tweeted at Tony Kahn, stop hiding, Mo. And then now they got in kind of a back and forth on Twitter. Are we going to do eventually a sports M.T. Theater?

Do we have enough material for that? I'll only see three tweets. A total? Yeah. What do you mean? There's like three each. Okay, so I didn't see that. Yeah, they're all talking back and forth to each other.

There's like five tweets here. Oh, okay. I keep checking my email to see if he responds. One of us can be Tony and one of us can be Yannick. We can do it later in the show. Yeah, why don't we do it about 130? A 130. So we can be prepared for it.

Sports and T Theater. We can rehearse our lines. And I can practice saying SportsMT Theater. Joe, have you been a part of your SportsMT Theater before? I have not. That's okay. We'll teach you. It's very simple.

It's amazing. Yeah. I mean, it's the best thing you'll hear on radio is when I meant to said. It's very average. Matt, self-assessment is a key. Yeah, but also you need to sell things, Matt.

We're in the business of selling this show. If you don't listen at 1.30, you're going to miss, as we like to call in a business, Radio Gold. Radio Gold. I think Radio Gold is Radio Gold on the Matt Thomas show Bingo Card? Um. Or is it Marconi Award? Is that one on the, or they both on the bingo card?

To peel the curtain back. I don't know if it's there. By the way, you guys... But that's neither here nor there. You got to go check out my Twitter account. Our friends at Ram Shirts have put together a shirt. Somebody was teasing me about having a stripper shirt, which we did have one for the 20,000 Twitter party.

Yes, we did have a good morning strippers. This one is way better. This one is the goat of all photos. It's so good. It looks like me, too. That's the best part of it. Actually, I'm going to... I think this guy looks a little chunkier than you, Matt.

I'll say. That's fair. That's a fair assessment, Ross. Okay. So I think when I get rid of the second chin, basically. Yeah, that's a compliment. Yeah, that's a compliment. Okay. But I want one of these. Yeah, we're going to have to get it out here. Let me as a matter of fact, I'm going to respond to him right now. Can you drop 10 pounds? Can you drop 10 pounds of me? Just do it, please.

I'm doing it right now. I need you to send that. I am. It will be in the top five most vain tweet you've ever sent. Actually, I'm going to say, actually, Actually, Sports RV. I'm going to help you, I'm going to help you with this. Actually, Sports RV and Joe George think I look thinner. Nothing better than live tweeting on the radio, right?

Yeah, this is a great theater. We're on to the headlines today, please. Let's see. Headline number one, Niners are open to trading first round picks. Joe, George, your thoughts? Joe doesn't have any thoughts. Good call. number two

the the Patriots color rush is now the regular uniform great call Texans I will become a Texans fan if they put red numbering

on their uniforms you'll already you'll just going to say I'm going to be a Texans fan if they do this you're going to root for Bill O'Brien in the regime that he's running yes

isn't the color rush worth four wins a year Coco golf's dad Coco never got depression diagnosis That's headline number three. Number four, Buck's not expected to trade for Four Nett.

Louisville Slugger is shuddering their factory. That's number five. That's actually sad. This is their busy time of year, when you think? Between tourism and using the bats. I thought there were a bunch of competing bat companies anyways. All right. We will save this incredible news headline set for a couple of minutes.

Right now we're going to visit with the former voice of the Chicago Bulls on, I want to say, Sports Channel, Fox Sports Chicago, I want to say, and he's now an Austin resident, now running a very successful energy company. Tom Dorwood is here on the Matt Thomas show. Tom, it's Matt and Ross. First of all, thank you for joining us. I'm going to assume that you've been quite busy. I saw your live tweeting last night, so you were right in the middle of it. What's it been like for you watching the first two episodes of Last Night's Last Dance?

It was really interesting last night. you know, I wondered how much they really pull back the curtain. You know, this be kind of a tell-all book, instant replay, you know, something like that. And I was surprised at how candid Michael and Scotty were about what they felt, what they did, and why they did it. I think fans got a really good idea at how the season started, why it started the way it did, and why things unfolded the way they did. And now I'm just cannot wait for the next eight episodes. I guess the number one thing we're all kind of thinking about is the fact that Jerry Krause,

unfortunately, because of his passing, is not able to give us his own anecdotal thing. Without giving way too many companies, secrets if you don't mind, what was your relationship like with Jerrying? And tell us one or two things if you don't mind that we're probably not going to find out because Jerry's no longer with us and how he would respond to this time in Bull's history. I think it was Steve Kerr who said that Jerry was really good at his job, but had personality issues. One of the other guys on there talked about how Jerry had small man syndrome or whatever they call it. Look, I'm 7-2, and Jerry was 5-2, whatever he was.

was. And when we were going somewhere, he and I would sit and talk baseball. He was as big a Roger Clemens fan as there was in the world. He wanted the White Sox, I think it was the White Sox, to take him coming out of college. Anyway, I got along great with him, but I could see why, especially personality-wise, he could be off-putting and why Michael Scottie and the other guys felt the way they did about him. You know, he, personality-wise, he was not a guy you'd want to go to lunch with, probably. If you were in that position, my position, we had a blast. But he was a guy that was spectacular at putting those teams together and finding the right pieces and that kind of thing.

Baseding with Tom Doer, the longtime television voice of the Chicago Bulls here on the Matt Thomas show. Tom, did you know that this was watching you guys that year? Was it a parent that they were with you every step of the way? And were you surprised by this? Or did you think, okay, this is NBA films is doing something just to watch maybe the greatest collection of players ever

assembled for a half decade or so? We knew. They got, and being the local TV guys, the TV broadcaster, the team partner, you wanted access that they got, but you didn't get. Yeah.

You know, locker rooms, I could ask any play or anything. If I needed to know something, I'd go over, sit by Michael on the bus or the plane and say, okay, explain this to me. What happened? Why did this happen? What are you looking for tomorrow night? And he would always, always give me great answers.

I think with Scottie, Scott, you and I did the TV games together the last couple years that I was there. So I had great access to them, but not for stuff. that I could use on camera. So we knew what was going on. We had a little envy. Yeah, I'm not going to be honest. I'm not going to lie to you guys. But at the same time, this was the Rolling Stones and the Beatles and, you know,

pick about eight other groups all rolled into one. Not only had they won five championships, not only was it Michael and Scotty, throw in Dennis, throwing Phil Jackson, throw in Jerry Krause, throw in everything in the pot. and man, you got a hell of a soap opera, you got a hell of a sports team. I mean, you've got storylines everywhere. And so was I surprised by any of it? No, there's nothing that could surprise you with that group.

I was going to say, Tom, and I'm very blessed. I've been calling Rocket Games for four years, and I'm kind of in that behind the curtain occasionally in that situation, for you to be around that group. I mean, the greatest team ever assembled, probably among the greatest in unsports history. You still are probably asked about it all the time. I'm sure you probably, if you're having a couple of pops somewhere in the Austin area, people want to debate you, LeBron versus Michael Jordan.

What gets asked most about that time, maybe not saying Michael Jordan? What's the second most thing that's brought up? Is it Rodman? Is it Bill Jackson? Is it Kraus? I mean, what is brought up besides obviously number 23? Yeah, Krause doesn't get much. know, Jerry, outside of Chicago, this is really America's first chance to get to see what

happened with that team and how it ended in a whole bit. But the biggest thing that I get is that Bulls team versus Gold State from two years ago, whatever it was. That's what people ask me about more by far, more than anything else. But we got a lot of California people here in Austin. Right. You know, if I went up Chicago, not a hell of a lot of. people would have that question because they'd already, you know, imagine Chicago being the George

went guys, you know, that's Chicago. You couldn't beat Michael Jordan if you had 18 Larry Byrd, you aren't going to beat Michael Jordan, you know, so. But outside of Chicago, that's the one that I get probably more than anything else. All right. Before the last question, wrap things up. By the way, I think you are the. tallest play-by-play player in NBA history, right?

In 7-2, I can't think of anybody taller than 7-2 that's ever broadcast a game, at least from a play-by-play perspective, right? Yeah, I don't think so. You know, and then Johnny Kerr was 6-9, and then Stacey King joined us at 6-8-6-9, and Bill Wennington was our sideline reporter. Wow. Until I told him he wasn't cute enough, and he couldn't hang out of the job. And I love Billy.

Billy's one of my best buddies who texted this morning. But no, that was, to me, that was the fun part, was the guys. So let me ask you this. What, is there anything? Do you know what's ahead? I can they still haven't finished production of all this because they rush it. What are we going to be most amazed about it? Do you have any idea what's coming up that we would be like, wow, I can't believe that?

You see exactly what I see. I have no idea. They didn't talk to me. Sports Channel and then Fox Sports, Chicago, and then what was the last thing? Contcast. were non-union shops. And so they couldn't talk to me because we were non-union shops. You won't hear any of our clips during the thing.

But if you listened to Steve Kerr last night, Steve Kerr talked about Dennis Rodman. That's the next episode. Dennis is, just like Steve told you, Dennis is exactly what you don't think he is. he's shy, quiet, and introverted. I'm not a real outgoing guy. Dennis used to sit right in front of me on the plane.

When he came on with his book, we had a blast, you know, busted him about his book and the Photoshop pictures and the whole bit. And he, I mean, he laughed with it too. But for the most part, Dennis is a very, very shy person. Madonna taught him all of the marketing stuff. You know, the wedding dress. I remember when he told me what he was going to do with the wedding dress the next day with the book signing. And I just said, you got a screw loose.

And he said, I was a screw, just one. But, no, Dennis is, and Dennis is one of the nicest, sweetest people you could ever meet. He would give you the shirt off his back and his last five bucks. Wow. That's Dennis Rodman. But he, Dennis got married and his wife divorced him. He married a stripper. I'm sure this is going to come out next, you know, next weekend.

And they had a child. And so he loved that his daughter more than life itself. But they moved to Sacramento so he could never see her, never see her. And we, you know, a bunch of us think that was on purpose to try and drive him, you know, crazy. but I know when we were going to Sacramento or San Francisco, his eyes would be lighting up because he'd get to see his daughter. And he would tell me about how much he wanted to do all those dad things with her. And so that's who he is.

Now, all the other stuff, the marketing stuff, is great. But Dennis is, that's not, he's not the wild guy. He is anything but that wild guy. He's very shy and very loyal. So I don't know what the fourth episode is, but I think you'll see that. And then I think when Scotty Pippen comes back, I mean, you know, people have talked about, well, they were old and it was getting pretty close at the time. Scottie Pippen comes back, and after kind of getting in shape and all that, he was a beast.

Well, you remember right after that, he got traded to Houston. Oh, yeah. And he was terrific with Houston. But, yeah, I think the Dennis Rodman piece is probably going to be the most surprising to most of the people. To me, the most surprising thing was how honest Michael and Scotty were last night. I mean, they didn't hold anything back. I think we'll get more of it. Hey, if we can call you when it's all said and down, we would greatly appreciate it.

Your insights have been fantastic. I'd like to visit with you once it's all done if you don't mind. Yeah, glad you, Matt. Great. Tom, thank you very much for the time. We really, really appreciate it. Good luck to you and everybody in Austin, okay? Thank you. Tom Doer, former television voice that Chicago Bulls during that time from 1991 to 2008.

A guest here on the Matt Thomas show, we really appreciate that. We'll visit with him when the series is over with. 119. It's the Matt Thomas show, and this is Sports Talk 790. This is Craig Vigio. Vigio. Back to Matt Thomas on Sports Talk, 790. We're having some fun.

You're home of the Stroke. Thanks again to Tom Dore for joining us for a few minutes. We've got SportsMT Theater at the bottom of the hour. Will Brinson screen captured all of it in its glory. There you go. All right, so we'll be doing a little sports empty theater. Which role am I playing? I'll be TonyCon.

Okay. I'll be Janik Engakwe. Nothing better than having teams in the AMC South just fighting with each other. 2020 is just amazing. Thank God the Texans all get along. What if I'd take? told you like five years ago or so or i guess 10 years ago there would be some there would be a player and someone in the i guess personnel department i don't know exactly what you call the son of

the owner arguing on twitter about whether or not a player should be traded as a player's demanding trade via via twitter yeah when did twitter become a get me out of here mode that's just a strange i don't know and you got lennon fort net who wants out of there yes let me he's campaigning for cam newton over gardner on twitter yeah yeah who by the way he's threw three to one touchdown to interception ratio last year. Okay. Except against the Texans. When he threw what? Four?

Let me, can I tell you something? You weren't with me at the time. So I took Peyton, my middle son to the Jacksonville, Houston season opener last year. Remember how bad that game was? It was awful. It was one of the worst regular season games I've ever been to 30-point losses that had more action than that game. Did they win at 13-10 in overtime? Am I making that up or was that legit? It was something nasty like that. last play, but it was

God, awful. There were people, Ross were 12 to 13. That's when they could have ran in the two-point conversion and they didn't get it. Oh, okay. Yeah, the Jaguar scored at the end. They could have got the two-point, but the Texans stopped them and then the Texans won the game.

It was so bad that people didn't even have the stones to boo because they were just so utterly bored. I remember looking down going, these waffle fries are delicious. And it had been my first game I had been to where the self-serve drink section was available in the clubs. Like you buy one beverage size and you get to go up there and drink as much as you want.

I've been to zero games. Texans games? Yeah, never, no game, not as a fan, not a media, nothing. I was going to go to my first one this year, but not in Houston. They feed you well. Chicago. Yeah, I was going to go to Chicago this year for the Texans game. But I guess that's off.

Why can't you go? There's a meal fans. media he goes media okay are they going to have media at the games yeah why not or are the post game press conference is going to be done over Zoom or are they going to limit

availability in the press box for social distancing which means we won't get you mean we won't be able to go I will say this you're probably not getting in the locker rooms anymore or at least for a while yeah it'd be like how the NBA was doing it when Rudy Gober touched everything six feet away yeah everybody's going to

players at a podium yeah what do you guys think will ultimately be permanently changed. I think we're going to, first of all, I think this is just grandiose. I think we're going to have more people working from home than ever before in the history of the workplace. I think offices are going to downsize. They're going to save money,

and they're going to tell their sellers, especially outside salespeople, work from home. If you get to need to talk, if your manager needs to talk to you, come to see him at the office once a week. But I bet you work from home, percentages will go up, will skyrocket. agree. Like we have a, we have a fifth floor here, which has all of our studios, and a third

floor, which has nothing but cubicles. Our salespeople have been still working, why can they do it from home? That's where I think, number one, we'll see outside sales people. Productivity probably goes down when you're not, when you're working from home. That's the question is it. It's going to depend on the people. Well, that's right. But if you're in sales and you're not taking a draw and you're working on commission only, so what of work productivity goes down. So does your paycheck. If you're not guaranteed a salary, then you're out there going to hustle on the streets. I'm just saying that's one thing.

Yeah, I actually think, and I think some people, vice versa of Ross and I, where our production would go down, some people, their production will go up because they won't be bothered by the people around them. Correct. Because when you go to the office, guess what you do? You go to the water cooler and you talk about stuff. Yeah, you chit-chat. You chit-chat.

You grab a snack. You go have an hour lunch somewhere. Two-hour lunch. Are we going to lose the third floor? Well, I don't know if we're doing the third floor, but I'm saying that I can see companies combining workspace, save money, real estate,

especially the pricey downtown, pricey gallery, sure, why not? What else would change? I think air travel is going to change. I've already discussed that before. We did that on the Monday night meeting a couple weeks back. I think restaurants will not be as big. New restaurants will downsize.

There'll be lesser tables. I think there'll be a, not pressure, but probably more importance on the takeout, just generally speaking. I don't know, guys, and I don't mean, I'm not saying doom or gloom on this. I'm just being honest. I think we're going to just see dramatic changes in everything, that this virus is going to change. I don't think we'll ever go back to what we were four or five years ago.

We'll see. Remains to be seen. I don't know. I don't know that our day-to-day lives are going to dramatically change it that much, just because so much of what we're doing is in place and we'll be back, I would have presumed within the next year. Here's the question. And I've told you guys this before.

and most people will disagree with me. I don't think we get back to full arenas and full stadiums to the very earliest 2022. I think it's going to take a year and a half for vaccines, for testing, for everything to be as, I mean, look, we've, as fluid a situation as possible. That's a pretty big adjustment.

It's a pretty long period of time without having fans in stadiums. 129 is our time. We take some phone calls. We've got a sports empty theater to get to as well. Do not go anywhere. It's a Matt Thomas show. 713. 212-5-790 7-13-212-5-790 with a message here for the Shell Federal Credit Union. Despite the fact their branches right now are not open, their drive-thrus are open.

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790. Get your stroves on the radio. Sports Talk 790. You're home for the Astros. 134 Sports Talk 790 in the Matt. Thomas, should we take this program to 3 o'clock today? Sports M.T. theater in a matter of moments.

How are we going to do on this? We're going to be all right on this one? What are you? Matt. It's been a loss of goodness. Where's your level of confidence? I think, but we had a new audience. It's going to be amazing. Joe's not the audience. He works on the show. So he's going to love in a matter one. Here's the thing. Ross makes me do a lot of things that I'm not sure about, and I love most of them. See? If this is a Ross idea, then I feel pretty confident.

I don't care what y'all do after the show. Don't bring that stuff on. No, I'm talking about like the X-Files. Oh, okay. And he makes me the epidemiologist of Sports Talk 790 without my approval. Derek got to step it out of. Hello, Derek. What's going on, this Thomas? Hi. That's good to hear your voice. Do you all right? We're doing great. Thank you.

No. Man, good, good, good. Well, check this out. So my wife asked me, she said, have you seen the Michael Jordan thing? I was like, well, no. Of course, to me, to me, it's a big waste of time.

We've seen this story. Why is that? Huh? Why is it a big waste of time? For me. I don't like basketball. But I want to tell Mr. Thomas, I do not like it, but guess what my favorite team is?

The Milwaukee Bucks? No, the Houston Rockets, man. Okay. That is my favorite team. The Houston Rockets. I don't like it, but when I do like basketball, when it's the Houston Rockets. This show the special things that's on,

right in the middle of Michael Jordan's success is the Houston Rockets. I don't know if they got into that part yet, the depth of it. I don't know where that because I ain't watched it. But that part right there is a great, amazing piece in history that we have and that that question will never be answered or can't be answered right? Mike, what I watch and I want to hear what he said, why couldn't he be?

Why was that chemistry not as good with Rockers as it was with other teams? Even though they only played each other maybe three or four times, I would like to see that explanation. But other than that, this is age time, right? This is Ace Time. And every team and everybody that come down here, that's what it is, man. We're in the middle of just 94 and 95. What's the difference?

I'm Keem Elijah won. Bernie Maxwell, Kenny Smith. They right in the middle of his kingdom reign. Forever little Mike. We love them. I'm going to let you all later, bro. All right. See you later.

Okay. 137 here on Sports Talk 790. Hit the music, Joe. Get ready. Ah, yes. It's been a long time, folks. But welcome back for another edition of Sports. T Theater.

Today, we will have a two-man drama between Yanukk and Tony Kahn. Playing the part of Tony Kahn will be one Matthew Thomas. Thank you. Thank you all. That's fine. I said, I should have prepped. There's no big lot in here. It's on me.

It's true. There's something in the theater. We got social distance. No crowds in the theater. And playing. The part of Yona Kankwai will be one. Raw Severeal. And now, sports empty theater.

At Tony Khan. Stop hiding, Mo. At Tony Khan. I'm not in hiding, sir. I'm in isolation. Getting ready for the draft. I've been pretty active on social media in isolation. but you would know

that since you've unfollowed me again since you're feeling Mike today let's both let the world in on the truth. We've been had a discussion that the changes the Chargers game was my last game yet you try to backdoor the situation

without answering any of my camp's calls SMH you spoiled bro holding up people for no reason clown emoji at Tony Cun It's a new regime here, sir I thank you

from the bottom of my heart for all of the contributions you have made here. That said, tweeting insults at me will get you traded not get you traded any faster. Only good trade compensation will do that. Please redirect your efforts

into a more productive outlet. Just trade me. I don't need the speech. Checkered flag emoji for some reason. at Tony con you showed me the compensation I'm sure you are really

driving up the price today BTW and that was another edition of sports MTV theater thank you a play applause

thank you thank you Janik and Gakway and Tony Con are just going at it on Twitter yeah other general managers probably aren't going yeah that's

Tony you're yeah this is is not driving the price of Yank. That's a good point by Tony Kahn. Yeah, from a first and third to you're getting a pair of sixth. Well, would you tell you for your first sports MT theater there, Joe George Radio? I enjoyed it. Thank you.

Yeah, we don't know what these people sound like, so it's just easier to make up voices. Yeah, of course. I don't know why Tony Kahn sounds like a French painter, but that's okay. Like that Pink Panta! Jacques Le-Zelle. Jacques-Cruistel. That's the man who just jumps in boats.

No, not Jacques Cousteau. The Pink Panther wasn't he Jacques Cluzo? Cluzo? Yeah, it wasn't Custo, because Custo's out in the water. Yes, Cluzo was the Pink Panther. Custo was the diver. Inspector Cluzo. I'm just working on my impression science since I do none of them good except Bill Cosby,

but I can't do my Bill Cosby anymore. No, the Keith Jackson is the all-timer. It's all right. It's the only one you do that's okay. Yeah, but everybody does Keith. Not everybody does Keith Jackson. Everybody does Keith Jackson. Everybody does a Mac Brown.

Elvis. Everybody does a Charlie Cassily. Not everybody does a Charlie. I don't do a Charlie Casserly. You say here. That's it. Is that your Charlie? That's it.

And by the way, your Bill Cosby's horrid. It's not terrible. It's just permanently retired. It probably sounds more like he does now. He's blinded and incapacitated. All right. 713-212-5-7-90. If you would like to, I was going to say, jump on your own.

Sports empty theater. So the Texans should be trading for Yonick and Gokwey right away, right? Would the Jaguars trade within their division? No. I don't know. Let me tell you, guess who likes to overpay for picks? For live active players, Ross. Bill O'Brien.

The Houston Texans do. Yeah, but, I mean, they wouldn't trade for somebody that's making a stink on Twitter. Bad locker room guy. Bad Monday through Saturday guy. He's probably a horrific Monday through Saturday guy. He probably is the last one in the locker room and the first one to leave. not a great teammate basically

not very Hopkins not Texans worthy who thought of that phrase it was Matt Schaub right was that who said it when didn't it Matt Schaub say who was he saying wasn't Texans worthy doesn't matter but I think it's more important

who was uh who why was it from why was it Matt Schaub's job to tell us who was Texan Su he said endomkin Sue was not Texans worthy he'd been good he's still good Right? Yeah, he's still pretty good.

Still active. That was like six teams ago he was grumpy and not behaving himself and stepping on people's feet. Well, he kicked Maddie in the jewels, didn't he? Yeah, and then Albert Hainsworth stepped on his fingers. Yeah, well, yeah. Was Albert Hainsworth the one that gave him the Leesfronk injury? Boy, Matt's job got beat up a lot. Yeah.

And then through pick sixes. Yeah. Now, when I first got here, still making money. still backing up in Atlanta, right? Yeah. When I first got here, I didn't know a whole lot about him because, again, when you live in Minnesota and you're watching Brett Farv and the Vikings,

you didn't care about the Houston Texans. Was he ever a rock star here? No. There was always a discussion of whether or not he was elite. There was the year where he was a pro bowler, rightfully so, and he led the entire league with passing yards of like 4,700 and change. I remember moving here in 2010, and he was the Pro Bowl, was maybe 2010 or 2011, he was a Pro Bowl MVP.

Yeah, the most valuable. That's like one in the NIT. Kind of. Not kind of. It right is there. You're not going to have to be in the big boy game, but you get to play in the secondary game. So basically,

Matt Schaub is Texas basketball. Hold on now. If you're a Pro Bowl, you're the best of the best. I love the parallel. Those that aren't good enough to be in the big dance. Go to the other dance. They don't go to the Pro Bowl. You go to the Pro Bowl if you're one of the best in the league.

But if you're in the Pro Bowl, it means you're not playing the Super Bowl. But not back then. Only two teams are playing the other. the Super Bowl. Yeah, that might have been when it was after the Super Bowl. So the analogy is horrible, null and void. I love my analogy. I'm going to stick with it. Yeah, okay. So do you guys just like bitch at each other about UT basketball versus U of H sports all the time?

I don't, yeah, I don't know what he's talking about. One sweet 16 in 40 years. Well, we're going to get a bunch more. I do like the U of H coach is way better than the UT coach. Of course. I wonder how he likes Austin. I hope not. Probably the traffic is terrible. 144.

Oh, it's great in Houston. 713, 212.790. 713, 212.570. We take you to 3 o'clock today here on 790. Left side to Westbrook on the baseline for the tie. He makes it. And he's fouled. This is Russell Westbrook.

One thing is for sure, I did not get my amazing style from Matt Thomas. Oh, hammer job. Time is 150. We're going to do something to the top of the hour. we're going to think about what we can send to ESPN for ideas of an upcoming documentary series because look, there's a lot of things that ESPN does is lousin.

Like their 9-11 show Employment. Which one's that one? That's Kellerman's show. Stephen A doesn't bother me as much as Kellerman does. It's funny how we used to hate Stephen A, but they pair them with people that are so insufferable. It actually makes us like Stephen A. Max Kellerman is literally unsufferable.

I like the call on that one. So they do, I mean, but their game day is good. Their college football coverage is good. The games. The games are the best. They're peripheral.

They do too much. Yeah. I mean, NFL live to me is a bore. I noon and around the horn. PTI's been good. I mean, it's been around for 20 years.

Around the, what's that one? Around the horn. That's okay. I mean, far from must see television. It's really just Scott Van Pelt's. The only attraction.

Scott Van Pelt is his show, is the show, can't miss at night. The problem is, I don't know what days he takes off. I guess it fluctuates depending on what's going on before and or after his show. But we're going to give ESPN some ideas. I think there is a documentary series that I would like for them to do that I saw on Twitter. And I don't know who said it, and so I can't get proper credit. But it's something that I've always been curious about, and it involves a Texas team. And I will tell you who that team is and what I think ESPN would do a great job of a 30 for 30 or whatever they're called a documentary series.

Oh, like if, for example, they could do one on my dominance in the Fantasy Five. I mean, yeah, but I think people outside of our small little audience would not find a very intriguing. I think it would be enthralling, Matt, for the entire country. I have two topics for this week. You can choose. We can go with greatest appetizers. Okay. All right.

Or we can go with songs that involve Alphabstall. Alcohol in the title or alcohol consumption. Okay. So you can choose either one. Man, I would be choosing a bunch of old songs. Yeah, I think it's dominated by one genre, frankly. You can think about it. Rhythm and booze?

I was thinking more country. Okay. Oh, hip-hop's got a large selection. That's true. Buy you a drink, sing you a song. That's the first thing I thought it was buy your drink. Gin and juice. Look at Matt.

Okay, I like that one. But you're thinking country music, of course. We're going to do both of them. But it just, you can choose which one. one you want to do this week. Okay. Good job of the topics, Matt. You can choose different genres for each one of your five. I would say we can do this. Why don't we have at least two genres in there? Well, I'm not going to do five country songs. Yeah, I mean, I would do that on accident. Country's going to, I think countries are going to more than any other ones. Why do

I think country is a- I'm not a country's not my wheelhouse, though, so I'm probably not going to- But some of the most recognizable songs that I know from country music involve alcohol. Okay. And then there's one that's kind of- It's about alcohol, dogs. People die in trucks. And America. America. And these colors don't run. Stuff like that.

All right. Yeah. So that's, oh, so we get that Friday. And then top of there, we're going to do documentary series that we can certainly help ESPN with. I had something here I was going to bring up now that I forgot. See, the thing is that Joe, the one thing you learn about this show is that we've got something really great we're going to go into. And then one little small thing, usually what's something Ross says, throws the entire segment off. It just does.

So if you wanted to draft a UB40 red red wine, if you will. You can have that one. That to me is a definitive number one pick. Wink, wink. Tequila sunrise. There's too many, don't stop. There's just too many options. Okay.

So we're going with that or are we going with best appetizers? Apps is a, I believe there's a definitive. Well-known apps or like, do they have to be specific? Like this app from this restaurant? No, they can do either one you want. Or can just go in general mozzarella sticks or whatever. You can go mozzarella sticks. You could say, I believe there.

There is a restaurant in America that has a appetizer that is ordered by 70% of the people when they go there. Cheddar bay biscuits by lobster? You know, you get those for free. Okay. Does that count? No. This will be something that's buy on the side. Okay.

Because Chipson sauce are an appetizer. Yes. But most of them you don't have to pay for that. Correct. This is a restaurant item that when people go to that restaurant, 70% of the people, order it ahead of time. Okay. I don't know what you're talking about.

Good. I'm not going to tell you what it is. That's fine. The music one is more intriguing to me because then we could play the music. We could play snippets of the music and that's more work for Joe. Yeah, Joe, we've really not put you to serious work

on the old fantasy five. Yeah, but... Hashtack production value. But your tease was so good, Matt, about the food that I just want you to pay it off on Friday. Well, I will tell you what it is. All fair, but you can't be a judge. But I have to be the tiebreaker.

Well, he can like that. the picker he cannot. It doesn't matter if he's It could be wrong. You could be wrong. Yeah, he could disagree with you. Okay, I'll tell you during the break. I'm not telling, I'm not telling Ross, though. Well, I carried a segment right there. So salad and breadsticks from Olive Garden wouldn't count because they're free. But those breadsticks are so good.

No, this is the appetite. You have to go, you have to buy it. I wouldn't think chips. I would say chips and queso would be certainly an eye. Okay. Nobody gives you free queso. Most places don't give you free caseo. Right. But the salsa, you do get it for free. Hmm. Okay. I'm intrigued by the by the songs about drinking too, though. There's one song

that I think is the most famous song about drinking or a drink. It's Margarita Ville. Go ahead. Maybe. But I don't, but it's not, I mean, I'm not a parrot head. Yes, you are. I like two of his songs. You love Tommy Bahama shirts and

and Spark and Sandals. I have one Tomahama shirt. One. I think I have at least, And my wife bought it for me, so I didn't even buy it. I mean, you got to have one in case you go on a trip to Cancun or something. You got to have at least one time in the mama.

Or you have to go out somewhere nice, and it's hot outside. Like, I wore a time of my Bahamas shirt for that wedding I went to in Vegas. That makes sense. Because I wasn't putting a shirt and tie on. Oh, hell no, with that. And were you wasting away again in Margaritaville? I like that. I like come Monday.

Other than that, forget it. Okay. Like, Cheesberg in Paradise doesn't do anything for me. And it sucks, actually. Yeah. It reminds me the time I walked the bill. in Hawaii. Is that restaurant still exist?

I'm sure it does. Margaritaville? Yeah. No. She's Burger in Paradise. Oh, I don't know about that. I don't know if it does anymore. There's Jimmy Buffett's Margaritaville in the Fort Lauderdale Airport.

Do not get the taco salad. Do not, I repeat. Really? You must have advanced recant on that. Okay. I got you. You're going to regret it as you eat it and you're going to regret it after. Rough flight?

How rough was a flight in sports, Harvey? A lot of turbulence. All right. I got you. All right. The last hour is about a top of his show. See, look at that. It's not the second hour. Matt, show's almost over.

Man, we are cruising along. You're all loving the show? Line one, you loving the show? Line two, how much you enjoy on a Monday edition of the Matt Thomas show? Okay. If you love the show, 713, 21, 2, 5, 790. For that matter, if you hate the show, 713, 2, 1,2, 5, 790. I have, I believe, an awesome future documentary that involves a Texas sports team.

I'll tell you what that is, starting the final hour of the Matt Thomas show here on Sports Talk 790. Is the Matt Thomas show. On Sports Talk 790, it is the final hour of the Matt Thomas show. Let me clean up a couple of things. I did tell you. Clean it up, Matt, during the break about the number one definitive appetizer, and he agreed with me.

I think it's fair. My concern is I don't think as many people eat there as you believe they do. Okay. I could go with that. You know what? Without even having heard it, that was what I was thinking. Okay. Number two, if you watch The Last Dance last night,

have any observations one way or the other? We'd love to hear from you. A lot of observations, Matt. We'll get to some of those. 713, 212, 5, 7.9. We'll do that next segment. But I want to tell you right now about what I think is a Texas sports team. See, I want to see if either one of you guys can get it.

Something in sports in the state of Texas that I think would make for an awesome documentary series. Long form. What is this? This is the 30 for 30 theme. Yeah, come on. I don't pay attention. You don't pay attention. It's the greatest thing.

Oh, please. Well, this is a reproduction. This is not the exact one? No. In all seriousness, I'm going to give you guys like two or three. No silly guesses. Two or three. Oh, no silly guesses?

Great in Texas sports history that I think would be a great document. But there's a lot of unanswered questions about that. And I want to know if you guys have figured out. Okay. Is it? Is it good or bad? It's mostly good. Oh.

Okay. So that takes one. My first guess would have been the Aggie Bonfire. Okay. No. Yeah. That's not what I'm going to go. Or the murder of Patrick Denny he.

That was what I was going to guess. But you said good. Patrick Dennyhee? Okay. No. Remember that Baylor? Yeah. That was a, that's not a bad, actually, a bad idea.

The whole Baylor thing and how everything went crazy and how Dave Bliss was involved in that. Great call. Bonfire was more like a news event. You could probably knock that out in one episode probably. Yeah, not long form. Well, if you wanted to go through the whole history of it and what it meant to the Aggies

and stuff like that. Yeah, I could see the Baylor thing having legs to it. I mean, if you go back... I'll give you some more hints. Protein. Cocaine Cowboys in the 95, the 90s? You're warm.

The Herschel Walker trade that led to Emmett Smith and everyone? Ross is a little warmer. Hmm. I'll look at you get close enough. I would like to know about those years with Jimmy and Jerry.

How it fell apart. how it fell apart and how Barry got the job. And then after that, they had been largely 20 years of irrelevance. You could really, I mean, who could give you the definitive reasons why Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson got sideways so badly? Wouldn't that be, that would mean to be, and I'm not even a cowboy fan. You guys know that. We don't like the Cowboys here. But that's the kind of stuff that I would love to be able to see.

Yeah, that's a good one. Anything else? And you guys, if you have any ideas, is there a documentary series? Now, think when I ask you this, I say, think about something that you could give it some legs. It would be a, you know, how like this last dance is a 10-part series. I think we're probably 20 to 30 years away from this documentary being made because you're going to need all these guys to be retired from Major League Baseball. But, man, the 10-parter, starting with the 2017 Astros and the trash cans.

And, like, it's going to be an incredible documentary. No question about it. future documentary. Yeah, that's a good one. I was thinking, I mean, Brady and Belichick is an obvious one, I think. Their relationship, the cheating scandals, the deflate gate, the spy gate. I mean, there are, so there are, remember, people don't remember there was that period between 2003 and 2012 or 13 where they didn't win a Super Bowl and people were thinking that they

had the dynasty died, then they ripped off three more Super Bowls. Let me give you one here. You tell me if you guys have been interested in this. Kentucky Basketball. the last 20 years. Largely, I mean, there's been no school in college basketball that has fed more NBA players to the lead than Kentucky. How do they do it?

Put your hand down, Ross. I'm sorry, money. I'm doing a money sign with my hand. That's how. But if that comes out at some point that Anthony Davis and the Harrison twins. DeMarcus cousins. DeMarcus cousins and all these guys were actually getting paid under the table, be incredible.

So short of that, no. I'd say probably not I'd be more interesting Coach K The Fab 5 stuff kind of came out right I mean So why not They did a 30 for 30 on the Fab 5

I thought it was a good one And they talked about hanging out With boosters and getting money And stuff like that I'm just saying there's not been There's not been a school that has filled the NBA With players Yeah

You would think that have four to five new banners hung in there And they've got one right What 2012 Give or take yeah I mean so guys Every time I do a play by play game I feel like I'm

putting out three schools, Duke, North Carolina, and Kentucky. It's rare that I don't call a game with at least one Kentucky player. Yeah, there are so many. Yeah, 2012 was their last championship before that. It was the Scott Padgett-led 1998. I would like to see one on the banana boat. Just those guys? Just those guys.

Take me through the banana boat trip. where they all thought, you know what, we could all play together. That could have some layers to it. Or like on the heat coming together? Yeah. We got the Shaq and Penny breakup documentary. That was a good one. It sucks because Kobe's not here anymore.

But the Kobe and Shaq breakup would be a good thing, too. Would have been a really good documentary. Because both guys go on and win championships elsewhere. They had the rivalry. And Kobe was like, I just got one more than Shaq. That's all I wanted. stuff like that. Yeah,

unfortunately, won't be able to do that one. Is there anything else? I feel like we've focused a lot on basketball. Okay, how about I keep it in Houston? And I say the Yow and T-Mack era rockets, kind of a what could have been,

and there was injuries. There was that time when they were both hurt and they pushed the Lakers to seven games. T-Mack had all this drama with the coaches and with the doctors because he had back spasms. He got microfractor surgery on his own. Like,

that would be kind of interesting. That may carry more Houston. I don't know if it's national, but I mean, he was a two-time scoring champion. He was supposed to be the greatest thing in the trade and all that type of stuff. What you could probably do with on the Yao aspect is,

you know, how much of the Chinese Basketball Association affect Yao in his product? Yeah, I mean, there's all those angles on the whole thing, on the Yao and Timak era. I'm sure Van Gundy, you could talk to him and he'd have some good stories. Daryl Morey would be forthcoming.

You think there would be a, is there a story to really tell that we don't know about the Oilers leaving? Well, they did a football life on that 93 Oilers, too. Yeah, I would just have to say how bad did it get between Bob Lanier and Bud Adams and unfortunately both are dead, so... It's kind of hard to do that. It doesn't do that.

Anything about A-Rod and Jeter that strikes you as interesting? That might be good. Just A-Rod in general. Yeah, A-Rod would be really interesting. I mean, the whole thing of, like, the Mitchell Report, and then still testing positive for steroids after that. Well, hopefully, guys, that the world of sports is so busy in the next seven months that there'll be no time for documentaries.

Oh, I know. What? That's the documentary. How Rudy Gobert stopped everything. No, but for real. Yeah. How one moment in the NBA, Rudy Gobert testing positive for the coronavirus, change sports forever.

I don't know how you make it a documentary because they're still talking about the Olympics not opening next year. Yeah. Stadiums, who knows, more fans full stadiums again? I mean, no, this is one of those things that you were talking about 30 years down the row, you know, with the Astros of 2017. Like how Rudy Gober had changed the world.

I mean, it would be fascinating because there's so many layers. Because Mark Cuban has spoke to the president. Yeah. There's only one NBA owner that has spoken to the president in the United States about this, and it's him.

Hey, he's so good. Like, I mean, there's so many stories to tell. Because, like, how it killed the XFL. That's one part. Like, that's one episode. I want to know what happened. the XFL. I mean, was he leveraged so bad? There was a 30 for

30 on the first XFL, right? Yeah, there'll be another one. Well, I don't know if it'll be another one because it's only five weeks, but point being is that how does this go from, hey, this league's got a shot at sticking around to, we're closing the doors and no one's getting paid? I mean, what an abrupt ending to everything? Let's go

to Tom and downtown on 790. Tom, what do you got today? Well, I got an idea for a documentary. In the 90s, I'm sure you remember Turbo. for the Rockets. But I heard the story back then. He came from a collegiate gymnastics team that spawned, like, all the dunking mascots

and the Nascuatch and the Sonics. I'd like to hear kind of a documentary about those guys and how they got their guts starts and their... You're talking about the acrobatic ones or just mascots in general? The squads have the acrobatic dunkers, like Turbo and the Sasquatch and... Oh, okay. Yeah, I got you. They all came from the same gymnastic cliquers.

legate class, like from one university. And they all took their jobs and, I guess, got jobs that are doing their acrobatics. If that makes sense. Thank you, Tom. Appreciate it. Got one from Twitter. This is from Brandon. Mike Leach, Craig James scandal.

Can you make 10, can you make 10 episodes out of that? I don't need 10. I mean, most of the 30 for 30s are like one or two episodes. Yeah. Yeah. I could watch a 30 for 30 on those two gentlemen. I'd watch a 30 for 30 on Mike Leach. Yeah.

Mike Leach doing the weather? Yeah. I'm all for it. 212 on the Matt Thomas show. What was the everlasting memories of last night's episode you came away with? We'll discuss that next. Plus, your phone calls are welcome. 713212-5-790.

7-13-212-5-790. 2-12, Matt Thomas Show, Sports Talk, 790. On the trail, it's hard. And it drops it down with a left-hand hammer. This is Coach Dan Tonin. Matt Thomas is a great guy. And I'll always listen to the radio show. On mute.

What a shot! Thanks, Coach. Good to hear the coach's voice. We will hear one of his players, Robert Covington tomorrow at 1 o'clock. That's right. I'm also chasing down a voice we miss hearing from. Hmm. Who do you miss hearing from?

I'm good. You good? It's okay. I know, uh, Joe will be missing members of the Bears broadcast crew, the Bulls, the Blackhawks. We got everybody mostly for the local, right? Yeah, we're going to do some more national stuff. I owe a phone call to Julian Morales.

She's not too busy. I thought we got her on. No, we got on during spring training. Oh, that was it? Yeah, Kaylee was on there. Okay. So, by the way, one quick thing on the NBA before we go back to anything you guys have to say about the last dance last night.

Adam Silver had, as Sam Eamick told us on Friday show, had a conference call with the NBA's national media. Didn't offer much. Why do you think that is? Said that things are being discussed. Things are being, all different options are out there. Yada, yadi. Why do you think he was so non-informative?

Maybe he doesn't have anything to give. This is so... My guess is this. I think they really do want to play basketball. I mean, that is no breaking news in this. But I also think they don't want to come across as here we are planning for this huge return of the NBA. And we're starting to plan these things. And oh, by the way, we still don't have a definitive word about vaccines and or a number of tests that it might come across as a wee bit insensitive if they decide to start making these big plans.

when still much of America doesn't know if we should be going back to work or not. I know there's been a little bit of restrictions limited, very limited, except if you go to the beaches in Florida, apparently everybody's out there doing that. Yeah, beaches are open there, you're fine. Yeah, the young people don't care. They're ready to go to the beach. But I think in an uber-sensitive world that we're in, I think he and the league are waiting for greater clearance.

and that I think they really do not want to have the epicenter events. I think they'd like to be able to have games in their cities. Now, maybe not at the big arenas, but to at least give some familiarity, this is just a pure guess on my part, that if you start making these plans, even though you've not been, we haven't been fully clear to resume,

schools are not going back at all this year, airports are still empty for the most part, restaurant and businesses are largely gone, that I think they're waiting for another round of it's getting, they want a lot of good news before they start saying, we're coming back. Yeah, I think so. That's why they wouldn't,

I think there's not much to offer because they don't know. I don't think Adam Silver knows when they're coming back. I don't know if he knows they probably have a bunch of different plans that they're working on, that they're workshopping, that they're ironing out. But every time they come up with something, there's just, you solve one problem, there's 10 new problems.

That's the problem. So you can't really say anything. Come out and say, hey, we're going to do this if you don't have a plan. If you don't know when we're coming back, you can't say we're coming back June 1st. If you don't know if anything's going to be open June 1st or July 1st or whatever. Yeah. You can't release a plan without like a perfect execution. Like Ross said 10 more problems every time you bring something. They have to have all those answers.

I was three weeks ago very leery of them in returning. I would be astonished and super, super stunned if they don't come back. guys they're in no hurry. You know whether they wanted to wrap this up by Labor Day? I think that's out the window. They have local television money and national television money. The NBA wants back. They can see the finish line.

If we go over that last hump, if we finish that last third of the marathon, look at the price we get at the end, and that prize is money. So if it takes them longer? What if it takes it longer? After September, like they don't finish the season until November. and then they start restart win. I think they can finish in October and come back in December. And then they'll start every other subsequent season in December or they would have another shortened season?

I would be, yeah, I'm going to go. Because in the lockout season a few years ago, then they start around December or January. Yeah, it was 50 games, yeah. And people were like, well, they should just do this every year. But they said, no, we're just going to do a shortened regular season. I think we're done with October regular season games. I think this has put the pressure on. on them to move the calendar back.

And I think if there are no hurry to finish the year, because, again, Ross, and unlike basketball and unlike baseball, or football, their seasons down the home stretch. We're talking, I mean, they could tomorrow start the playoffs and just say, you 16 teams, you're going to finish out. But I think they don't want to do that. There is a lot of money. The thing we cannot forget about is these local television deals are guaranteed 70 games. Every team in order to pay off on these regional sports networks, the 8.

AT&Ts, the Foxes, the MSGs, pay on 70 games. They're no more close to that. Well, I shouldn't say no more close, but they are not at 70. Most are in the 60 to 62 category. Probably even fewer if you've had some national exclusives, right? Because the Rockets have played, what is it, 64 games or something like that? Yep. Yeah, they've played 64 games.

How many of those have been national exclusive, at least a handful? A lot, a lot of them. A lot of them, actually. So, I mean, you're probably owed... If you're AT&T Southwest, we would guess 10 games, maybe more. But at least if you don't, if the NBA comes back and says, we're going to play 5 to 6 or 7 regular season games, we're going to let you as the local broadcaster.

At least it shows the cable provider the people that are paying it. There was a good faith effort to get those games out. What if they just let them broadcast playoff games? Could be too. And I know what? Normally they do the first round of the playoffs? That's it. And that's it.

What if they don't do that this year? Yeah. What does they let Bull and them go all the way through the finals? Well, yeah, but at that point, if you're talking about the second round of the final. I mean, you're having only eight teams are left. What about the team, what about the broadcast partner of the Pelicans? I have an idea.

Or the Rockets. But the Palicans are probably closer to their 70 than the Rockets are. That's true. What if we had a tournament for the number one pick? The teams that don't make the playoffs, they play. I like that. In a playoff tournament this year to give the television rights

and the winning team of the tournament gets the first pick in the draft. I like that. But does the winning team really need the number one pick then? Yeah, why not? I mean, why couldn't the Warriors win it? I mean, that sounds terrible. No, what I, what you're, I don't think you're going to add programming or add games to further money up the process.

I think that'd be great, though, a little single elimination tournament. Well, I guess it would have to be changed a little bit because it would be, past that of three. It would be 14 teams. There's no, some team, people would have to get buys or something. You can find something to satisfy. contracts. That's what I think they'll do. They'll find a way to satisfy these contracts. I feel comfortable in saying this. They're not

going to cancel the season unless we have another mass outbreak where it's unsafe for us to leave our homes. See, I think they're waiting to be told to cancel their season. I think they're waiting for the president to step in and say you're not playing sports this year.

Because then if the president comes in and says Adam, you guys can't play the rest of the season, you guys can't play the rest of the season. you got to think AT&T would have a harder time arguing about contracts when they're being told they're not allowed to play basketball. And I don't think those words are going to come out of President Trump's mouth. Agreed.

Or for that matter, any president. Especially guys when you say, I mean, there is a given now. The rest of this basketball season, whatever is left of it, we'll have no fans in it. Now, the question is, do you take 30 arenas and put 100 people in those arenas to play, those games, or do you send everybody to one place, knowing that you've got a large group of people in one area, but that's those same people that are there for most. I mean, you could, in terms of a scheduling situation, finish out the season a lot faster if you send everybody to one location. You can't do that if you insist on the Lakers going to Houston to play a game, or if you insist on Philadelphia, going to Miami to play. That's going to be the question is, do you want people bumping around, traveling, extending the season,

or can you find a place that is the satisfactory place for every location and finish out your campaign that way? But I'm more and more, I change my tune on this almost daily on this. I'm further convinced that short of another, what would you call an expansion of the pandemic? An outbreak. Another outbreak, another wave, whatever it would be. I think they're going to play. But I think the September 1st deadline that it was been kind of originally talked about it, let's try to get this thing down on Labor Day, is out the window.

But we're still in a bad outbreak. It's still going up every day. It's not like everything's under control right now. No, but I feel like in the last week there has been greater optimism than there was, say, three weeks ago. But again, I may be just watching the wrong TV channel. I don't know. You know, I am rotating between the three networks. Okay.

Because I feel like when I watch one, I get clinically depressed, and that network says the president is the worst per human being alive. And then I go to another network, and I get another viewpoint of things that gives me optimistic. optimism or depression, and then that president's the greatest president we've ever had. That's why this show is fair and balanced. Super fair. Because I spend 33% on one liberal network, 33 in the other liberal network, and 33 in the Uber Conservative network, and then PBS for the other one percent. And I don't watch the news at all, so I'm there.

I'm right down the middle. Same. At Helmand in the Bush tweets out, since the Corona Circus was brought up in the last dance, I would love to see a documentary on how cocaine ruined the awesome 80s teams. That's a great one. Ruin the Rockets. John Lucas, Mitchell Wiggins, and Lewis Lloyd.

Yeah, the 86 Rockets? I mean, they destroyed the Ralph Sampton shot. That was in game five. People forget. People forget. They're like, oh, you know, there's a game seven, game six, like the Rockets eat that one out. That was in game five. Kareem had no answer for Ralph Samson and Hakeem Olazian.

What a great... I'd love that. If Ralph would stay healthy, yeah. Love, love, love. And the Celtics, the 86 Celtics were the greatest team of all time. Everybody said they pushed them to six. Right? Yeah, that's a six game series.

The greatest Celtic team of all time was 86 champions and they went to six games. Yeah. That's actually a better argument than maybe perhaps would the Rockets of 94, 95 beat the Bulls? Would a completely healthy? Yeah. Well, actually, no, because Mitchell Wiggins and Lewis Lloyd played on that team. Mitchell Wickens was on the floor when Samson made the shot. Yeah, but, I mean, Mollajon was still young.

Yeah. Oh, you're talking about down the road. Right. Like, could they have developed? Could they have beaten the Lakers on a regular basis? Could they have beat the bad boy pistons later on in that decade? Exactly, because there was a, I mean, there was a breaking through, right? I mean, everybody had to break through that got through. Yeah. The Bulls had to get through the pistons.

LeBron had to get through the Celtics or whatever, stuff like that. That's actually a pretty good argument. Could the late 80s rockets, well, actually mid-80s rockets had developed something, if not for, for Lucas and now John was in the back half of his career well maybe he was 10 years in the league and he was first picking 76 or 77 so he'd have been the league 10 years Wiggins and Luloyd

God what a fun basketball team that was great call on your part Chris 229 the Matt Thomas show continues 713212-75790 713 212 5790 Hey yo Adrian Um Marky my name is Alexa Oh I like to hear Sports.

Then say, Alexa Play Sports Talk 790 on IHeart Radio. Whoa. How many shots to the head did you take? Ross, you know, the youngans appreciate this show occasionally. I want to give a shout out to a listener, Brian Kim, who has been home like the rest of the students. Okay. Doing homeschooling, learning education online from their schools. And he's like, Matt, I'm so happy to be home now that I can get my education and listen to Matt Thomas show at the same time.

That's what we're doing. We're influencing the youth, my friends. That's probably not good. So a major shout out to Brian Kim, who listens to show every day. We appreciate him and his buddies. Listen to the Sports Talk 790. Thank you. We're like base.

You know, we are. We're like a college class. I'm okay. You learn. What course is it? Introduction to Awesome Radio. Or in some cases, advanced awesome radio. All right, yeah.

I don't know how advanced it gets around here. You know what I'm proud of in all honesty. What are you proud of, Matthew? haven't done a list radio yet uh not too much i mean there's a little things here and there but nothing like you know what's your favorite pizza topping i'm gonna go with a bell peppers gross really i'm no he's nice you do you realize but people people with pizza are weird that could be someone's favorite if you say mushrooms like i think you're oh i like mushroom but point being is that we try not to do much

at all anything intentionally enlist radio because it's just it just gets old after well so that's where we have trying to have people we miss hearing from we had Tom Doron earlier today from the Chicago Bulls broadcast team in the 90s What's his name Tom what?

Door D-R-E Okay seven foot two Did he play basketball? He probably in college And so he did about 50 games a year for the Bulls for about 15, 16 seasons 7-2 He's got some Austin, he lives in Austin now

I don't know what his connection is to Austin, but I don't know. It's just a wonderful town, Matt. It is a great town, but the traffic is wretched. Way worse than here. 35 in the heart of downtown Austin is a hot mess. His Wikipedia page says in the 80s and 90s he did color and play-by-play for UT and SMU. There you go. He loved Austin so much.

He came back. And Missouri. I think he went to Missouri. Yeah, he was the product of Mazoo. So if you missed that conversation with Tom Doer, the television voice of the Bulls of the Time. That'll be on our blog on the What's on Matt's Mine show page at Sports 790.com. Let's go to Brian with us at 236. Brian, how are you, sir? Hey, Matt Thomas, quit hitting us with all this doom and gloom so late.

We're going to be listening to SportsMT, call a live rocket scheme from Toyota to center before the end of the year. I hope you're right. Yeah, I just don't have a date. I mean, that's the thing. It's that we have the great unknown of how much better are we going to get? And at some point, one of these sports leagues has to pull the trigger and saying, we're going to try putting sports back out there. I think, frankly, the easiest thing, guys, is a golf tournament. Social distancing, outside. You're closing the galleries off. You put the guys on the course. You call it a day. I like that Tiger versus Phil thing. That sounded good. But anyway, Matt,

I wanted to get into you. You know, I've been listening to you call games. And one of my favorite ever with shit current. You know, I think he's still in the popcorn machine looking for the mustard that fell out of his hot dogs. But, I mean, it's like, guys I get Vince Scully, Bob Miller, I grew up with the guys in L.A. with a little transistor radio under my pillow, you know, as a kid.

And, you know, I listen to you, Matt. And every one of those guys, everybody's got, like, their signature call. And I think nothing but nylon might be yours. Yeah, I use that one. I use sets, fires, hits as my other one, too. Those are just, you know, those are a couple of them I use. But I love listening to you call a game, Matt.

Well, thank you. I'm sure hoping I get to hear it soon. Me too. Thank you for the phone call. I still'm trying to get you to say splash in the wet jumper. It's got a terrible connotation. What was the phrase that we were told you to say? Well, besides pop of the polypropylene, which Craig Ackerman pulled up nicely.

Well, Lance wanted me to say that James is shopping and I finally did it. It was like a preseason game, though, right? Oh, no, real game, yeah. Because as soon as I did it, my tweet lens, we're like, Oh my God, he finally did it. That's funny. Well, I forgot. Lance did call a preseason game with you.

Yeah, we were in... When they were in China or something. They were in China. It was in our morning time slot. So we went down to the Tota Center and did it off the television screen. Yeah, Pablo Prishone when he was on the squad at the time. The hell was that? Sounds like somebody's working a drill around here.

We got construction going on here? I think so. Yeah, outside. Oh. That was really weird. Um, I, you know, selfishly, See, my wife is not a big of fan of this. I don't like calling it.

Is that going over? It's got to be going over the air, right? I don't mean to be throwing me off. Matt, contain yourself. Yeah, what did you eat today? Well, enchiladas in you. Yeah, I did. I don't want to call games off a television screen.

It's very difficult. What's the hardest part about it? Just, you know, it's just easier to see human beings live and in person as compared off screen. So are you going to go? I don't know. No way if they if they asked you, would you go? I would go. Even if they told you were to be quarantined away from your family for months. Not months. I don't think it'll be months. Just until the Rockets win the championship. I've talked to my life. It would be a long time, wouldn't it? It could potentially could. And I said, I'm not going if it's unhealthy, which again, they're not sending players if it's an

unhealthy situation. But here's what I did say, that this hopefully will never happen again. We're worrying this, everything is shut down. that I will be able to have memories of this for the rest of my life. You're a part of history, kind of. What if there's another pandemic in a decade? That's what I'm saying. I hope we'll stay home for that one. Then I'll probably be like, you know, you can go.

No, but I'll go check on your wife and kids, Matt. You stay far away from my family. I'll go see what's going on. But yeah, as long as it was deemed healthy and that there was proper, you know, medical things and, yeah, I would do it. Here's the weird thing. And some of the things I think about at 4 o'clock, I was an insomniac this morning. I got up at 4 o'clock and didn't go back to sleep.

You're like an 80-year-old. So if I go, and one day I just have a fever, you know, sometimes you just have a fever. He's a couple of medicine and you're done. If I go and I can't do the game, there's not like five people to replace me back. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It'd have to be some cortisorne system with announcers that are there to say, all right, let's say the Bucson announcers.

Yeah. The Bucks announcer has a fever or comes down with something. You fill in for him? We'll just have somebody from here to do it watching on TV. Who's you wanted to do it? Adam Wexler. Okay, so wax is my backup here in Houston. Yes.

Okay. Does he know this yet? He did comments games back in the day, right? I don't know. I wasn't here to do it. I think he did. Okay. So that's just a weird thing I thinking about is that because, you know, when you go out

to a restaurant and they're going to start, you know, taking your temperature, you can't go where you're supposed to go, go sit in the car while the rest of your family has a meal? Or if, let's say you and I go to Lake Charles and we take temperature and you have the fever, am I supposed to leave you in the car, or we're just to go home. If we're in Lake Charles and you start getting sick, you, I'm leaving you. You.

Well, I'm driving home. And I'm staying. Okay. And hopefully getting a- You take the bus back. Hopefully I'm winning a lot of money and I can get an Uber ride back from Lake Charles. Does the Greyhound Lake Charles?

Uber ride, $219 from Lake Charles. How much did I win? $1,000. Okay, I'll take it. Well, what if you lose $1,000? Then I'm calling you to come get me. Even though I'm sick. As long as your fever is,

have been reduced. Okay. Yeah, so to answer your question, now, let me ask you this. Would you do it? Would you go? I don't know. I would. I don't have a wife and kids. Well, I mean... I would say, yeah, I would go.

That should make any difference. You've got people that were going to care for you. More about you. That'll be fine. Yeah, I would go. Because, again, if the coast is clear, they're not... Let me tell you, the NBA has no interest in sending their best basketball players, any player for that manner, but any of their NBA

players to a city where they don't think they can get this thing fixed, or at least well under control. And if they can't, then there will be no season. The season will be canceled. Because what you don't want is you don't want a group of people, whether it be broadcasters, players, coaches, assistants, jumping on a plane, going to Las Vegas, and then somebody contracting and then sending anybody back and then delaying it furthermore. I mean, you've got to be in it.

This is where this slippery slope of these sports teams have. You have to be uber sure, which you really really. can't that once you get there, everything's going to be fine. That's the one thing that hurts about this is that you can't guarantee that putting a thousand men and women in one little confined area is going to guarantee success, is going to guarantee that everybody's going to be great. That you'll be able to finish out this season, play your games, play your playoffs, crown a champion, and that no one's going to get sick.

It would almost seem impossible. It would almost seem impossible. That's right. But that's why I think you're going to have to run the clock doctors. You're going to have to run a clock testing. anybody even has a scratchy throat. It's going to have to say, let's go check, get checked. Final segment of the Matt Thomas show, 713-212-5-790.

7-1-3-212-5-7-90. When Ross and Joe and I come back, we're going to come back to tell you the one surprising thing from the first two rounds of the last dance. There was one thing from last night's episode that surprised you more than anything else. We'll discuss that next. 243 on Sports Talk 790.

Daniel House. How are you? Hey, it's Daniel House. Matt Thomas continues now. On Sports Talk 790. 247. A couple things from the last dance. They did a really good job of explaining why Michael Jordan was a third pick in the draft.

Akima Langell was the best college player coming out, even better than Michael Jordan, even though he was named the college player of the year. Dominant centers in the NBA still reigns supreme in the NBA during that time. So that was an easy call on that one. That's the funny thing. And a lot of people were tweeting about that, and we've heard about this for years. Michael Jordan is thought of as the greatest player ever.

And never once have the Rockets been criticized for picking Akimelajua? No. That comment. Never once. By the GM of, like, at the podium, saying we wish you was seven feet tall, is wild.

Well, how about Mark Eaton? Today's NBA is full of seven footers. I'm like, what? Yeah. He was right. During that time, that's how you want. Kareem?

Yeah. You still... Robert Parrish was winning with the... Robert Parrish. And you had Moe Malone was winning with the Sixers in N-3. Absolutely. You had big centers that were dominant parts of the NBA, for sure. All right. So that was one.

The Sam Bowie pick wasn't a bad pick to Portland because, as they said in the documentary, and we all knew, they already had their Michael Jordan. Clyde Drexler, same spot. 6-6, combo two slash three. Didn't need him. Now, could you have figured out a way for both those guys to be on the floor at the same time? Of course. You probably will in 2020 you would have.

Yeah, but back then they drafted by position. For sure. Now they draft Michael, no question. To pair with Claude. Yeah, yeah. Today's NBA players, I mean, coaches are drawn up plays. Yeah, you give, Mike Dantony's, I can figure out of put Clyde and Michael drawn on the floor at the same time.

For sure. Back then, no. And then Michael was the obvious picket number three. A couple other things. I didn't realize, and I was telling this to Joe, before the show today, I didn't realize how little Scotty got paid. Because we didn't worry about it. That wasn't a sports topic in Houston in the late 1990s. Oh, is how bad is

Scottie Pippen underpaid? But seven years, $18 million. Crazy, crazy production from a guy making that little money, so to speak. Yeah, but you look at the deals because I was bringing up Michael Jordans, because apparently Larsa Pippen was upset last night and she tweeted out how in their careers, NBA earnings only, Scotty Pippen earned more than Michael Michael Jordan, when Scottie was making that $2 million a year, Michael was making anywhere between two and $4 million a year.

Only the last two years, it jumped up dramatically to form $4 million to $30 million in 96, 97, and the $97, $98, it was $33 million. That was the huge drop-off. So that's when the real discrepancy happened as those last two years. Was that also the time the money started skyrocketing in the NBA too? Probably, I'm sure. Any other surprises from last night? Oh, that Scotty Pippen was, well, that Michael,

Jordan was flat out rude to Jerry Krause. Making fun of his weight. He's size, height, weight. Talking about his weight loss pills and lowering the rim and all that type of stuff. It was pretty crazy. And that was crazy. I mean, what does Scotty Pippen just screaming out? Apparently he's just dog cussing him on the bus about what?

And there was a video of Jerry talking to him in a locker room and Scotty's getting dressed, not even looking at him. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, my, well, I mean, and how about the fact that Michael wasn't afraid to tell you in this document? that he was pissed that Scotty didn't have the surgery in the offseason. Oh, I'd tell you one thing that I liked. I like how Michael just had some liquor sitting right next to him as he was doing the interview. And a cigar too, right? Yeah, cigar and a little, I don't know what's in the glass.

Looks like brown liquor. Oh, and how about early Michael Jordan when he's going to the hotel room in Peoria? That's so good. And the cocaine, what is it, what they call him? The cocaine, cowboys are the cocaine circus? The cocaine circus. So he says there's cocaine and one side of the room. Yeah.

There's weed in the other. Yep. And girls. Yeah. So I'll start. I'll go to the girls section. Boys, where y'all going?

All three, Matt. He says, it's the 80s. I'm just sitting the weed section. Like, how big is a room in Peoria, Illinois? I was just, there's nothing in that town.

Did they have a big suite or something? Well, I mean, maybe you take adjacent rooms, maybe? I like the, it was really funny when the French dude asked for an autograph.

Yeah. And it was like, look at this, That happens in Houston. Don't kid yourself. We've got a lot of so-called media here that like to become fanboys of the team. The new Bulls, EVP, Arsum, whatever. Yeah. He played in that game against Michael Jordan.

Did he really? Yeah, you play for the Olympiaso or whatever. By the way, in honor of that first episode yesterday, I'm going to start wearing a beret to the office. Oh, please do, man. I would love to see you in a beret. Can we add the beret to the Good Morning Strippers T-shirt? because it just would make it even better. I don't have a bray.

What did what did, what did, what did, what did, what did, what did, what did, he didn't give me a fedoarly. Cangle. He came in a Cangle. I could see that. B.T. gave you a Cangle? Yeah, he did.

Why? What did you give me? Nothing. What did you give me? Oh, food. Well, yeah, I feed you. So at least twice already. And I would have given you a wedding gift if you'd be invited the wedding.

That's not fair. Well, that's what it is. All right. That's going to hold egg red for a while. Oh, I know. It's a good running bit. I'm not going to get rid of it. I'll be honest with you. Hey, Ross, remind the folks about our draft contest.

Oh. You're going to be putting up a blog post on this. Well, I'll get around to it at some point. You get three hours. It's going to be five questions, and each of them have a varying number of points. 10 to 50. Whoever gets the most points gets fabulous prizes. We have three food prizes giveaway for the top three boat getters.

Does hashtag support our local businesses? Yeah, normally we have three people tie for the most points. Usually you've got to get all five right. in order to win. Doesn't mean it always has to be the case, but usually you have to get all three, all five questions right to be one of the finalists. If you want to enter our NFL draft contest for the five questions revolve around the Texans, one is involving two, a tongue of a loa. Go to my Twitter account at SportsMT and then follow the instructions. It's a quick email, five questions. And again, if you don't have Twitter or go on Twitter, Ross will put a blog post up

in the next hour or so at Sports790.com. Tomorrow on the show, Robert Covington, you'll find out once and for all if it's okay for me to call him Roco. Is it okay to call him Roco? What if he says no? What's the follow-up question? I'm sorry? I wouldn't say why. I think he's referred to himself on Twitter as Roco.

I think so, too. But if he goes, Matt, you're not allowed to call me that. Everyone else came, but you can't. I would like that. He's like, Matt, I've only been here a couple months. By the way, he wouldn't know my name. But he only been in a couple months and the answer is no. Man, I need the season to finish out. There are so many unanswered questions. I do, too.

The Clippers, on paper, it looks like the best team. LeBron and AD together. Can LeBron get that fourth championship? Can this young, not I say young, can this shorter Rockets team who beat the Lakers in Los Angeles when it was supposed to be an ass kicking of a monumental effort or rapport, can this, can they beat a Lakers or a Clippers or a Jazz or a Nuggets team in a short series? Can Dallas be pesky if Porzengis and Dajic are playing? playing at their very best.

That's one of the things, Ross, we talked about this before. Shorter playoff series means potentially big, big surprises. Plus, it would just be not any fun to not be able to crown a champion. But the one thing I think about is this thought of Labor Day

being the end of the season, I don't buy it anymore. I think it could go a long, long time beyond that. Well, it's just April 20th. A lot of time, Matt. Got to get started, though, right? Some point. June 15. Got to get in shape.

June 30th. June 1. Vegas. Albuquerque. Arizona. Orlando. Do you have the C Island? Well, Fight Island?

Yeah, maybe I can just play on the fight island. Basketball Island. Toyota Center? I like basketball island. That's a good idea. Fantasy Island. Adam Waxon. Adam Clayton.

Combined, they are the A team. And they're up next on Sports Talk 790. Talk to you guys tomorrow at 12 noon.