The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - The Matt Thomas Show: Watson Contract, MLB & NBA Return

Episode Date: April 28, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So much larger than life. Yeah. Lunch timers is the Matt Thomas show. 1202 and H-town. What's happening in lunch timers? Good afternoon to you, and welcome to a Tuesday edition
Starting point is 00:00:30 to the Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 790. Our producer today is the one and only Joe George. My co-host, been with me. since, I don't know, February and March 2010? Yes, sir. It's been a minute. It's been a while. Sports Harvey Ross and I still love you, Matt. I know. Most teams that are like 10 years,
Starting point is 00:00:47 like, get the hell away from me. Yeah, we're not going to have our last dance just yet. Yeah. All right, so that's Ross. I'm Matt. Nice to have you guys with us today on the radio. And ladies, too. I always say guys, but we have quite a few ladies that listen to the show. Thank you for everybody that listens. Piping hot sports news
Starting point is 00:01:05 the day? go ahead I'll let you first because I think it's polite to let other people have an opportunity to go with the lead the draft was this weekend yep drafted well
Starting point is 00:01:16 55 million people watched headline number one of the day according to ESPN the Ravens are going to add DJ Fluker okay let's go on a headline number two yes the chiefs are releasing their punner hmm
Starting point is 00:01:30 all right now the national headlines are out of the way we mentioned us on the Monday night meeting last night We had a good time on our, if you ever catch that, it's at Facebook.com slash. You can catch the replay right now. Yeah, Facebook.com slash Sports Talk 790. I didn't, there was an aggregate guy that put something on on Twitter. Did you see the photos of it?
Starting point is 00:01:50 Yeah, I talked about it on the nightcap. Thanks for listening. Yeah, big fan. So he took like 25 people, give or take. 13. Okay, so I'm a little off. That's fine. It felt like more than 13.
Starting point is 00:02:02 It's okay. But 13 is still a good sample size. Absolutely. He took 13 different draft grades from various writers for NFL.com, sporting news, pro football focus, Mal Kiper Jr., a New York Post, if you will. Of course, our favorite Nate Davis of USA Today, yes. Leading aggregate writer in the country. Andy Benoit, who's been all over the place and breaks down film at New York Post.
Starting point is 00:02:25 A lot of credible sources on this. And so if you were to listen or hear or write or read anything from here, Houston media, everybody was giving it a glowing draft grade. Yeah, I would say B-ish. Yeah. I know you don't like draft grades, but I mean, the decision-making, I think, with the positions that they drafted, we can say whether or not we thought that they made good decisions that way.
Starting point is 00:02:49 And in the day, it's very safe to go with a B draft grade. Yes. It just is, because if it's A or C, you're in the buffer zone. If you go D or F, then something's gone wrong. So I saw that tweet late yesterday, and we brought up on the Monday night meeting, the Texans, if you took the 13 riders, have the second lowest grade. Yeah, they did the average and made a GP out of it.
Starting point is 00:03:10 4.0 would be a perfect A's. Which I never saw. Perfect. Well, the closest would be the Vikings had a 3.92. Cowboys were up there as well. Ravens were up there as well. Correct. So, I mean, it kind of matches.
Starting point is 00:03:22 So what you could do is you could take those 13 people and throw out the high grade and the low grade, right? If you did that, yeah. Even if you did that, the Texans are probably in the bottom five. They got one F. They got two Fs. Did they now? No, it was one. I tried to correct you last night.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Oh, I thought they had gotten two. It was one F, and if you looked at the highest grade, two people gave them a B plus. Okay, so you throw the B plus out and the F out, and it's probably a lot. The F really hurts. Yes. Because the F gives you zero points. That's correct. But let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:03:55 If we've taken up the high and low grade of every team, would they have skyrocketed up the ladder? It wouldn't affect the Vikings much. No. They got all A's almost. So I'll just say this. As we know, as you know, we are the unaffected. draft grade station. Yes. I think we as a collective group on our station do less draft grade than anybody else, whether it's good or better. It's each his own. But man, I didn't
Starting point is 00:04:16 realize taking those number of people that how awful the national perception was the Texans and in this particular case, again, everything is to be determined, but it felt a wee bit unfair. I agree with that. Blacklock is a guy that I think could come in here and step in, right away, not as a complete DJ Reader replacement, but one of the guys that will get some time, especially when most rookies this year in the NFL will not have much opportunity to prove who they are, because they're probably not going to step on the football field until the rest of the veterans show up in whenever that may be. So I just, it just felt like to me a tinge unfair. Now, again, as you know very well, I don't believe Bill O'Brien's capable of ever leading the team of Super Bowl, and I stand by that.
Starting point is 00:05:06 And by the way, I was thinking about this last night. You know how they say you can eat a bowl of crow? We're going to create. Now, our crow is going to be made of oatmeal because that's the close thing to crow, right? I guess. The crow is apparently very tough and stringy. That's why it came about about eating crow. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:23 So I'll eat something that will be gross. I'm not going to get myself sick. That's not happening. Yeah, don't do that. We can't find an actual crow in the street. It's going to be rancid. No, I'll just have a big bowl of oatmeal. You don't like oatmeal?
Starting point is 00:05:35 I like it. just you can only have so much. We can have something you don't like. Dog food. No. Yes. Let's get mad on a big bowl of Alpo. Not happening.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Dog food and milk. If the Texans would have a Super Bowl under Bill O'Brien. Yes. Matt Thomas will eat a bowl of dog food. Matt, you'll go viral. You've been wanting 30,000 followers. You'll go viral over this. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I'm fine. I have the feeling. What's something you don't like? I'm olives. That I could tolerate that I wouldn't like. I don't like olives. I could probably eat a bowl of guacamole. I could probably knock that.
Starting point is 00:06:08 This will do that. Let's be fair and balance on this, because that's what we are here at 790. I'll eat a bowl of guacamole. A whole, like just with a spoon? Yeah. Okay. It won't get me sick. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:06:20 A small bowl. I don't want you throwing up. That's just a lot. That's a lot of guac. You can you're dipping chips. Dipping chips. Okay. But I just don't like, I just never, in my entire life.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Okay. One of the biggest fights. You ready for this? You're ready for this? I'm peeling the curtain back on the top. Yeah. I think I've told this before. We were very newly married
Starting point is 00:06:38 And we had some people over to the house To have dinner with us And she was going through The dinner options And we were going through the main course A side dish and she said yeah I made a salad too And she said she goes I just want to give you the heads up
Starting point is 00:06:53 I put guacamole I put sliced avocado in it Oh you can't even eat sliced avocado And this is not one of those pro moments in my life This was a young Matt Yeah I lost my mind We got in a nasty nasty fight over sliced avocado.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Yeah. And I take the loss of this day. That's funny. But I was so mad at her because you know when little fights become big ones? Yes. And it wasn't about the avocasance. It starts off of the avocado and then it quickly turns. So I got so madder. I was going to school at the University of Houston at the same time. I did not go home. I went to my dad's house and just sat there and brood for a couple of hours. And he gets home from, he was teaching school at the time. And he says, what are you doing here? I said, well, Kim and I had a fight. well, okay, was this about finances
Starting point is 00:07:37 or was this about future children? I said, no, dad. It was about sliced avocado. Slice avocado in the salad. He goes, you know, you can pick it out. I said, yeah, but she said that. Yeah. But she said, he said, you can pick it out.
Starting point is 00:07:53 And I said, well, my response to that was, why did you put it in there in the begin with? He goes, I don't know and I don't care. Get out of my house. This is a stupid fight. That's great. I'm only here to be here for real, real fights. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Not avocado and a salad. I love that. So I went home, took the L, called it a day. Let me give you, you know, you always ask for sports MT segment. She's from San Antonio. She's got to love some guac. And this is a little advice I give you, Joe. Sometimes you should take the L.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Isn't it most of the time? You should probably just take the L? 99% of the time. 99% you should take it. 50% you should actually believe in taking it. That's fair. In this particular case, I did probably lose my mind for no apparent reason. And I took the proper L on that.
Starting point is 00:08:42 You flying off the handle for no reason. That's crazy. I know it's a stunter to you. Anyways, what are we talking about? The NFL draft. Okay. How do we get to guacamole from there? We were talking about Bill O'Brien.
Starting point is 00:09:01 He's not going to... Oh, okay. What you have to eat if he doesn't... I'll eat a bowl of guacamole. If Bill O'Brien... if Bill O'Brien wins the Super Bowl. And with chips. But on the point, what we were talking,
Starting point is 00:09:09 what we were actually talking about, the draft and the draft grades, do you think a little bit, um, maybe it has turned a little bit too much to where, you know, in sporting on Twitter, especially,
Starting point is 00:09:23 you get a group think. And anytime a team does this, it's bad. And you start, like, for example, James Harden, anytime James Hardin does anything, it's bad. I think that might be happening with Bill O'Brien.
Starting point is 00:09:35 And it's actually maybe you said yourself a tinge unfair because of the bad draft with the Andre Hopkins, because people don't like the Randall Cobb deal, because they don't like the Brandon Cook's trade. It kind of didn't matter who he drafted. They were going to say the Texans had a bad draft. And that's because of the horrific decisions he's made in the offseason. His entire office is that there's no way a guy that is so bad in trading players and so bad of signing players who are well that are being paid way more than they're supposed to be could possibly have a good draft. And that's the thing I will say about me, for all of my faults.
Starting point is 00:10:09 You have to give credit sometimes when credit is due. And I'm not saying that Bill O'Brien had a great draft because I told you it's stupid to try to grade drafts. But I think it's unfair that you crush him for it. You should only crush coaches and players for what they have done and what's on their resume. Not what's coming ahead. That's why I despise high school recruiting analysis. Every coach you ever hear in your entire life says their recruiting class is going to be a difference maker. In reality, there are 50 teams in college football that suck every year.
Starting point is 00:10:45 You've never heard a coach. Get on the podium and say, yeah, we sent our coaches out across the country. We traveled the sea to shining sea. We had these 23 guys and frankly, we're just disappointed on what we've done. Our hall is not that good. I would expect very few of these guys to become two deep players on our college football team. So, you know, I just, I don't value draft evaluations, especially the day or two a day after, and I certainly don't give much credence to high school recruiting reports about whether a kid is a four-star or five-star.
Starting point is 00:11:18 There are just as many two-star players in the NFL than there are five, right? Would you think in theory? Most, I mean, I feel like we used to believe it or not. We'd have at least one or two athletes a week that was only considered a two-star graduate coming out of high school. and he winds up having a long and successful NFL career. So I'll just say this. Bill O'Brien deserves a lot of criticism, but giving him a failing grain on the draft
Starting point is 00:11:44 when just because he had five players, just because it was all defense, I don't think it was particularly fair. All right, 1213 is our time. Dak Prescott still wants his big contract. So does Pat Mahomes. Yesterday, Deshawn Watson got his fifth-year option picked up. Gentlemen, do not take this in a sexual way, but I want a role play here when we come back.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I want to role play each one of these three guys. That's hot. It's not hot. It's three really good NFL quarterbacks that don't need to be thinking about role play. But I want you to, we're going to figure out how they should handle their upcoming negotiation process. Okay. We'll do that a minute. 713-212-5-790 is how you reach this radio show today.
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Starting point is 00:12:52 1219 on the Matt Thomas show. We're with you today until 3 o'clock. 713-212-5.790. I just got word that Ken Rosenthal from the Athletic and Fox Sports, their top guru baseball writer is going to join us at 2 o'clock this afternoon. Very much looking forward to that. Nothing but nice things to say about Ken Rosenthal. Swell fella, nice bow tie.
Starting point is 00:13:13 And probably the interview will be run as part of the nightcap tonight in the 6 o'clock hour. Yeah, I would almost put some money on that. Which means you need to ask some questions. Okay, I got some for us. It's just as much your show as mine. Come on now. So especially you're going to read running in the 6 o'clock hour. I would say I ask when you're here, when you're out on a, when you're out on
Starting point is 00:13:31 remote or whatever. Yeah. All right. We're going to get you to let you handle it. We're going to get two really good questions. Hard hitting. Hard hitting. All right.
Starting point is 00:13:38 So, Dax already been franchise tagged. Who? Dach Periscott. Okay. Pat Mahom's looking for his mega deal. Deshawn Watson is looking for his mega deal. And again, it doesn't really matter what the dollar amounts are, guarantee, because it's going to be over our heads.
Starting point is 00:13:59 But if you were in. in that circle. Let's pretend your first, your Dach Prescott. Are you concerned at all about what Pat makes? Are you concerned at all what Deshawn's going to get? Or do you feel like that you are, because you are already, you were technically a free agent for a short period of time
Starting point is 00:14:16 before the team franchise tag, that whatever you do is what you do and you shouldn't worry about what those other two guys are doing? Because I have a feeling, and again, I may be wrong, that Deshawn needs to have a pretty good eye and ear on what those other two quarterbacks are getting. Yeah, it's not even necessarily. about pocket watching or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:14:34 This is how markets get set in the NFL. Yeah. Is, I mean, look at Laramie Tunsell and now he's the highest paid left tackle in the entire NFL over Lang Johnson. The next time one of the top level tackles and the deal is up and it's time to get paid, they're going to want more than Laramie Tunsel. It's just how it goes. And the same thing with the with the Cuba market. If once one of them gets paid, it's almost like a set of dominoes.
Starting point is 00:14:56 And it's just, it's kind of the way it works in the NFL. NBA, it's easy. Everybody just gets a man. You get a max, you get a max, you get a max. It's like Oprah out there. It is very confusing because you have these big contracts of which only certain amounts are guaranteed. And then there's signing bonuses and there's how it affects the cap on a year-to-year basis. It's way more convoluted to try to get into a – because, again, it doesn't only matter what we think they're worth.
Starting point is 00:15:20 It's about what they think they're worth and how they affect the cap of their team. Do you think when they were thinking about DeAndre Hopkins that they were going to have to spend $22 million, dollars a year in theory on Laramie Tunsell. They had to have that in the back of their mind. I think that was a huge factor in the reason of trading DeAnder Hopkins, which we've always, we've maintained, was a valid reason to trade DeAndoony Hopkins. Just the return was terrible. And it also feels like they really haven't saved themselves much money.
Starting point is 00:15:50 No. Because you're inheriting David Johnson's huge contract. You spent a lot of money on Randall Cobb. Now, the only one that was, and perhaps could be a win-win, situation is if Brandon Cooks is good for you this year to get a starting receiver at only $8 million, that's pretty good. That's a really good value because most really good NFL receivers are in that $14 to $15 million range. If the guy who had his production cut in half and had multiple concussion issues and missed games and even when he was on the field wasn't
Starting point is 00:16:22 productive as good next year, yes. Yeah. So, okay, so Deshaun is, is it a waiting game for him? or do you think he will be impatient? Do you think the Texans might even overspend? Because here's the thing, the Texans already knew they were going to pay Laramie Tunsel to be the highest paid left tackle in the game. They already knew that. But they went well and beyond. What was it, Lane Johnson's dollar amount?
Starting point is 00:16:45 18 million a year. They went 22 for Laramie. But if you average the four years, he's about 19. Okay. So if you're Deshaun, do you go, well, we've already seen the Texans lay the groundwork by set in the marketplace. Maybe they want to do that with me. Yeah, they could.
Starting point is 00:17:05 It's almost like a waiting game. It's almost like a stand. Like they're all just sitting there staring at each other and waiting for one of them to budge and make a move. And that's what's going to allow everybody else to fall in place. Yeah. Now, is it the agents or is it the teams that are kind of wait more and wait and see mode? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Maybe it's both. See, it all depends, I think, on who you are as a person. I have been, and this is my only, I don't even experience myself, because I have dealt with my own negotiations. If I get a fair offer, and I think it's worth it, I'm not a huge back and forth negotiations because I think sometimes when that happens, you can create some bad feelings, especially when you're in a stalemate position. If you're to Sean, this will be his first mega contract.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Now, granted, he's going to make a lot of money in his fifth year option. I mean, no one's going to be worried about whether or not Sean can pay the bills. But if this is the first time you get to enter these waters, is it helpful or hurtful? that you have to wait for two other guys to get their deal done. They may answer maybe we don't know. Probably helpful, I think. Because they're all going to be about the same, right?
Starting point is 00:18:14 Or is Dak because he has the much... I don't know if he's much proven. I mean, he's got more... Is he have more skins on the game than Deshaun does or about the same? I don't think so. I think they're about the same. I'd agree. I mean, just an extra, what, an extra year of experience?
Starting point is 00:18:29 Yeah, that's it. I mean, Dak has had the greatest year of all of them, his rookie year. But he's followed that up with a little bit of up and down. But last year, he was fantastic. And he stands to make well north of $30 million. So, yeah, the highest-paid quarterback right now is $35 million a year with Russell Wilson. See, I don't think Dak's going to beat that. I think they'll match it at least.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I think you will at least see them match it. Because if I was going to play it out, like, I know it's just $2 million, but wouldn't like $30? 36 for DAC, 38 for Deshaun, and 40 for Mahomes, make a lot of sense. I think all three would say, where's the deal? I think we would see something in that neighborhood, yes. But do you think, Dak, here's the problem, guys. Is Dak going to go, I'm really, really good?
Starting point is 00:19:16 That's the thing. Am I, do I think in my mind I'm as good and as important to the Cowboys as Pat Mahomes is in Kansas City? If the answer is yes, then I should make every bit of money. He's, I don't think Dak Prescott's going to go, well, you know, I know Deshawn's got the Super Bowl, and I know that Deshawn was the NFL, the MVP, but Deshawn also had a variety of more of offensive weapons that I've had. I mean, again, whether it's true or not, do you self-justify why you think you should be every bit the dollar amount?
Starting point is 00:19:42 In his mind, Dak Prescott needs to be, thinks he needs to be paid more than Deshaun Watson. And I don't know, there's definitely an argument for that. So what does Deshaun do during all this? That's a big question. I think my... I've won more playoff games in Dak Prescott has. Yeah, maybe it's more of a standoff just between Dach and Dachan
Starting point is 00:20:03 because everybody knows or everybody understands would have to understand that Pat Mahomes is going to get paid the most. MVP, Super Bowl champion, all that stuff. So here's the question. Who is supposed to have the best career in the next five years in the NFL? Pat Mahomes is already there, guys. I mean, honestly, he's already the number one quarterback in the game. He has the MVP.
Starting point is 00:20:22 There's probably a really good shot. He's going to have another MVP. Question is who is going to win a couple more. Who is going to have a number of? a better career in the next five years. Dak Prescott or Deshaun Watson. You can't automatically have an answer, can you? It's a good question.
Starting point is 00:20:39 So if that is it, then they probably should be paid along the same lines. And honestly, when you look at what Dak has around him, Omari Cooper, Michael Gallup, now CD Lamb, Ezekiel Elliott, I can think I lean Dak just because his offense is going to be so much more explosive than Duke Johnson and David Johnson.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Better running game. Brandon Cooks. Better number one receiver. I'm telling you, gang, the CD Lamb kid is going to be really, really good. I think that's, I cannot believe they added CD Lamb with that team. I'm blown away by how good he was in college and how he was able to get survived to where he was. So I'm telling you, the sneaky pick for me in the NFC, and this makes me violently ill to say it. The Dallas Cowboys, I think, could be a favorite to win the NFC in the shit.
Starting point is 00:21:27 The NFC is definitely going to be interesting. To me, AFC is you start with, you starting in with the Ravens and the Chiefs. Right. NFC, you've got a handful of teams that can get up in that mix. Yeah, please don't hate me for saying the Cowboys have a chance. Because I feel like every year I've given them that sneaky option to win it. Dak last year threw for 4,900 yards, 30 touchdowns, 11 picks. Yeah. Rushed for three touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Deshawn threw for almost 1,100 fewer yards in one less game because he didn't sit. He sat out the last game. 3,800 yards. 26 touchdowns, 12 interceptions. So fewer touchdowns, more interceptions. He did rush for more touchdowns with seven instead of the three that Dak ran for. Yeah, and these are great problems to have because both of them are great quarterbacks. But the problem is, will the semantics of being one or two million dollars off, is that really going to throw off these teams?
Starting point is 00:22:20 I think they think they think it was. I'm sorry, I'm going to throw off the agents of the players. The agent is going to say, if Deshaun Watson comes at a number, Dax's agent, whoever it is, I don't even know, is going to say we need to be paid more than him because look at what we've done over a longer sample as well. 1229 on the Matt Thomas show. These are things we think about when there's no games to get to,
Starting point is 00:22:40 worrying about three ridiculously awesome quarterbacks and how insanely rich they're going to be. Both in Texas and both wear number four. In all three, at one point we're throwing passes in the state of Texas. Correct. At the same time. One for an average college football team?
Starting point is 00:22:56 It's very kind of you How does Pat Mahomes How do they not win nine games at Tech? That's the great man I tweeted that like last year I think I mean good gracious How did Cliff Kingsbury Not at least compete for a big 12 championship
Starting point is 00:23:12 With Pat Mahomes as a quarterback I mean because I know they You can't win every game 5245 But Texas Tech Church tries to I mean yeah they had some games Where he threw for like 800 yards And did they lose that game Where he broke the record for passing yards
Starting point is 00:23:24 Or it feels like every meaningful game Texas Tech play they lost. That game against Baker? Is that the one you're talking about? I think so, yeah. Yeah, I think Baker did win that game. It's crazy. Doesn't Oklahoma win everything? Yeah, he had 819 yards of total offense versus Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:23:42 And the Texas deck defense for how long? Thirty years? Yeah. Yeah, they lost that game. He had 800 total yards and they lost. That's incredible. 66 to 59. It's like arena football. I think I remember watching that game. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:58 That's a game they need to show on ESPN. I would love to sit down and watch that game tonight. Or put on the Longhorn Network. There's not as much offense in that game. Whoa. Colmicoi had some good offenses. We got to go back a decade. I can appreciate a 16-7 win over bailer just like anybody else.
Starting point is 00:24:15 7-13-212-5-7-90. What would you do if you're Deshawn Watson? Do you wait or do you try to expose the Texas for a team? that loves to overspend, because here's the reality of it. They did overspend on Laramie Tunsell. Worth it, hopefully. But they didn't pay them more than the market value? Way more.
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Starting point is 00:24:49 Matt Thomas Show rolls along here on Sports Talk 790. Matt Thomas Ross, Via. Joe George with you. Talking a lot in the last segment, and it'll be interesting. As the standoff continues, who's going to get paid first? Who will get paid the most? What will the pecking order be? I think the more I think about it between Deshawn Watson, Dak Prescott, and Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Obviously, Pat Mahomes is going to be the first. And if you want to weigh on this, 713-2125790, 7-1-3-21-5-790. The more I think about this, and the more I look at it, I start to think is, I start to think that Dak Prescott is going to be paid more than Deshaun Watson. I think we're here in Houston and we know the value that he has to the Texans and they're pretty much nothing without him. But you just look at the season, I think there are two seasons that Dak Prescott has had, just from a number standpoint. Obviously they went eight and eight last year and there's a lot of factors in that. But just from a number standpoint, there's two seasons that Dak Prescott has already had that are better than anything that Deshaun Watson has done in his career.
Starting point is 00:26:05 So I have to think if I am representing Dach Prescott and I'm negotiating with Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, and we're waiting on Deshaun Watson. If Deshaun Watson signs first, they're definitely saying we are more valuable to the Cowboys than Deshaun Watson is to the Texans. I think he, I don't know. Like if Deshawn, here's one, real talk. If Deshaun Watson doesn't play any better, I'm not saying that's a negative. I'm saying if Deshaun Watson doesn't play, if he is. crescendo to his career as an NFL quarterback. Is that good enough to get the Texans to win the AFC? With a good team around them, yes. Is he going to lead? Is he going to win them the
Starting point is 00:26:47 AFC? No. You know what I'm saying? Okay. How many courts? So if that's that that is the case, how many quarterbacks can you put in that category? If you know what, he may have average around him, but he is so good and elevates that it elevates everybody else. Like like Tom, could Tom Brady like he had to have Brock, right? that's true Tom Grady nobody does it with nothing yeah
Starting point is 00:27:09 in the NFL but I would say there were some years Aaron Rogers has had a lot of nothing yeah that's true Aaron Rogers and Russell Wilson in all honesty
Starting point is 00:27:16 yeah the last year Russell Wilson the last couple of years Russell Wilson because of his big contract has been kind of hamstringing the Seattle Seahawks
Starting point is 00:27:25 but they haven't really when they were winning Super Bowels and going to the Super Bowl they had great defenses that was Legion of Boom era because here's the reality of everything gang
Starting point is 00:27:33 when does Sean gets his money, he will be heavily compensated. So too will Laramie Tunsell and so too will be JJ Wattsdale at this point, right? That's a lot of money tied up in three players that you have to hope. It's not about just winning the AFC South. I'm not kidding around here. It's not just winning a wild card game. You put all that money into three players. You need a Super Bowl out of this, right? Yes Or I mean you need to also build smartly around them Because a lot of your cap is going to be eaten up by those two players
Starting point is 00:28:13 Three players By the way I don't know JJ Watts They could cut him right now with no dead cap I don't think that's going to happen But I mean do is JJ Wada Houston Texan two years from now No I don't think it's a guarantee
Starting point is 00:28:29 I matter of fact if you had to do a coin flip bat I would say he would lean towards no I think it's their first sure No. Now, is it because the Texans want to get rid of the cap hit, or do you think they go to him and say, we got to renegotiate, or do you think he says, you know what, guys, this just isn't going to work for us. It's time for me to finish my career somewhere else. I think he's going to want to get paid.
Starting point is 00:28:50 He's going to want to go somewhere else, and they're not going to pay him. You can go play with his brothers in Pittsburgh. But why are you so sure of that? It just doesn't, it feels like it's going to end badly. I don't know why. Maybe it's just, I'm a pessimist. Because here's the thing, Bill O'Brien has no. long-term
Starting point is 00:29:07 allegiance towards JJ. Now the McNair family might. Janice may step in and say no, he's finishing as a Texan. Yeah, that's possible. But I mean, we're talking about a guy who is 31, who's making premium money,
Starting point is 00:29:23 who in the last four years he has played 32 of the 64 games. Yeah, is it good if they sign them to another contract? I wouldn't want, no. It's hard because it's, look, it's J.J. Yes. But if they paid him again and paid him for his peak performance when he's actually on the field, that's not good for the franchise. They paid him three of the last four years huge money to not play.
Starting point is 00:29:48 My point is this, I just mentioned the three players that are going to, in theory, crush your opportunity to get better down the road. Unless, I mean, it's very similar with the rockets. The rockets have gone all in on Westbrook and Hardin and to a lesser extent Eric Gordon, right? A lot of money tied up in a very few players. The payoff, I mean, if the Rockets don't go to a championship series, they will be considered an unsuccessful tour of duty with those gentlemen. Same should be said for the Texans, right? You have to.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And again, I know that every NFL team is going to have three mega superstar players. But Deshaun is about to hit rarefied air. Deshawn is at some point going to be a top three NFL paid quarterback. JJ has been until these new contracts keep bumping up. He's always been in the top five or six. He was the top pay when he signed his deal. And you just made Laramie Tunsell richer than he ever could imagine. This is the time.
Starting point is 00:30:50 This is why Bill O'Brien probably said we don't need to spend a lot of time looking at rookies. This team is built for now. And I hope that, you know, I hope Deshaun gets what he thinks he deserves. Because I know it'll be a big day, right? Nobody ever goes, oh, this is terrible. Our franchise quarterback got paid. People will be running around the streets. There'll be parades going on.
Starting point is 00:31:10 But the reality is, if you super, super pay him, we need super, super, super results. Yes, and it's that much more difficult to build a team. I mean, we were talking about this yesterday. The best thing to have in the NFL is a good franchise quarterback on a rookie deal. Now you're not going to detections, the time for that is done. You're going to have him taking up a huge chunk of your cap and you're going to have to make some decisions, some shrewd decisions elsewhere, some good draft picks elsewhere, and all that type of stuff to build around him.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Yep. All right, 1241 is our time. It is the Matt Thomas show. We go to A.Y on 790. A.Y. What do you have? Good. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:52 I just want to comment about Deshawn. The show should get the maximum he can get out of this franchise. Because this franchise has messed him up with the DeAndre Hopkins trade. so he should just get paid because you take away his best weapon and you don't want to pay him you have to pay him the max and if he doesn't get the max
Starting point is 00:32:15 he should hold out and they will know how important Deshaun is to this franchise I'm going to let you run there I guess it's not your fault it's ours but yeah Deshawn Watson has just like the Laramie Tunzel he's got all the leverage
Starting point is 00:32:31 he really does and then's even more so Laramie Tonzel. Yeah, because he's going to hit a chance of being franchised for two years after next year. Yeah. I mean, Deshawn's got three years of major money coming his way. So he's got to be feeling terrific during this whole situation, especially because now the Laramie Tunsell sign and sealed, you don't have to worry about, you know, competing with a fellow teammate for the franchise tag. Just like Dak didn't have to worry about the franchise tag now that Amari Cooper signed his deal with Dallas. 1242 is the time. It is the Matt Thomas show. 713-21, 5-790. 7.
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Starting point is 00:34:10 This is Ricky Williams. I may have worn a wedding dress on a magazine cover, but it still looks better than any outfit Matt can put together. Let your wife dress you, man. Texas fine, Texas Five. Back to Matt Thomas on Sports Talk 790. Time is 1247. It is the Matt Thomas show.
Starting point is 00:34:39 on Sports Talk 7-9 alongside Rossville Real, Joe George, our producer. I'm Matt. Nice to have you with us. The NBA getting some brushback on the potential return to the practice courts. We'll talk about that at the top of the hour. Ken Rosenthal from The Athletic and Fox Sports with us at 2 o'clock about how Major League Baseball is going to try to handle a return. Let's go to Adam in Cyprus on the Matt Thomas show. Adam, thanks for holding good afternoon. Hey, how you know, Matt?
Starting point is 00:35:09 Good. I know we can always do a lot of stuff under these circumstances. I just wanted to talk about a little bit about DeAndre Hopkins trade. Just a tad. I don't want to beat it like a drum or whatever, you know. I just want to talk about it just a little bit. I hate the fact that they did it. I completely hate the trade.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Don't get me wrong. It was a dumb trade. All of that stuff, okay? But I'm a Texas fan, long-light Texas fan, and listen to y'all for a long time. And it's still a team sport. Okay. One person, one wide receiver, one all-star wide receiver that we loved, we put our, you know, hands around, loved them, embraced them, you know, treated him like he was, you know, our brother.
Starting point is 00:35:52 You know, and it just, he's not, that one person is going to help us, but he's not, one person can't win you a Super Bowl. One person can't, you know, just completely put the team on his back when you a Super Bowl. it takes a whole team. It takes a whole team around. Now, I think Bill O'Brien might be trying to do the Belichick-checky thing because, you know, he came from that particular team. But I just, you know, in my opinion, you know, we got all this money going different places to different players.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Like I said, it was a bone-headed decision. But, I mean, it takes a whole team to win a Super Bowl. And, I mean, Luke who Brady was doing it with, you know, these no-name players, it's always somebody that comes up and makes these plays, even with the Chiefs. You got these no-name running backs that just come out of nowhere and run for, you know, 150 yards, two touchdowns or whatever, you know, in games. And just, in my opinion, it takes it takes a, you know, a whole team to win a Super Bowl, obviously. And, you know, I just, you've got to back our team, whatever they do.
Starting point is 00:36:59 You know, that's just my opinion. I don't know if I agree with that. Why back your team no matter what they do? I mean, that seems rather, you know what? In coach, we trust no matter what, and that doesn't work out. I mean, Detroit fans don't feel that way. Cleveland Brown fans don't feel that way. They're always trying to question what the team is doing.
Starting point is 00:37:21 I mean, if you're New England and Belichick makes moves, like, for instance, getting rid of Tom Brady, I could buy that because Belichick's got all the rings and the championships. If Andy Reid wants to make the decision about going after putting in Pat Mahomes and sending off Alex Smith to Washington, You know, Andy Reitzman is considered one of the better coach in the NFL for about 15, 20 years. I don't think that the O'Brien-slash Texans' legacy gives them full right to have the, well, trust is we're going to make the right decision on this.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Right, right. And I'm not saying I'm not a Bill O'Brien backer or anything. I'm just saying in general, like any top, let me put this, any top wide receivers, have any one single top wide receiver won a Super Bowl? besides Jerry Rice and Montana, Irving, and Troy Eggman, you know, with the offensive line, stuff like that. Tyree killed this last year. He was one of the best wide receivers in football. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:19 I just, I mean, Reggie Wayne on the Super Bowl with Indianapolis? I mean, that's just, the only team I can think of recently that had a run, I mean, you can say New England hasn't had an A-list receiver, They also had some of the best tight ends and Hernandez before that. I mean, it does take an elite skill position player not named quarterback to help you win a championship. Demarius Thomas was on the Broncos when they won. Yeah, I totally, trust me. I would want, man, who would not want DeAndre Hopkins on their team? The Texans do not.
Starting point is 00:38:56 It sucks. I hate it. I hate it and hate it and hate it. I just. Here's the thing, here's the thing, Adam. you're just not going to be able to convince me until the results. Now, Bill O'Brien has asked for your patience. So, you know what?
Starting point is 00:39:11 If you're asking for it, you can either give it to him or not. But I just don't know of Randall Cobb, who has, I mean, the fastball is gone from his game. Brandon Cooks, who I do like, but I'm scared to death about the concussion situation. And you have not improved your running game and dropped your overall. number one threat how all of a sudden we're supposed to believe this is going to be as potent if not a more potent offense in 2020. Yeah. So you're standing.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Only they know what they're doing over there on Kirby, right? And how is it worked out? If I'm on the outside and I've watched their results and they're on the inside, do they feel better about what they're doing as compared to what I feel they're doing? Probably not. They're probably going, my God, we lost a 24-0 leading and got our ass kicked by Kansas City. I turned the TV off a long time.
Starting point is 00:40:14 I didn't even finish that game. Well, we unfortunately had to. Thanks to Adam for the phone call. Ross, I don't believe in blind loyalty. I just don't. I mean, it's, and that's in any sport. I get, the sentiment of not necessarily blind loyalty to Bill O'Brien or the players, blind loyalty, I guess, to the franchise.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Like, they can do whatever they want. I'm going to support them because they're my team. I get that. That's easier than to say, I trust. Look, I've been a Houston rocket fan since 1980. And the same for the Astros.
Starting point is 00:40:50 When I moved to Houston, those are the two teams are crap because they were the Houston teams. I don't think there'll be ever a bare point where I'm going to despise them. But it doesn't mean that I've spent the last 40 years of my life going, everything they've done has made sense. So yeah, there's a difference between I wouldn't call blind loyalty. I just called ultimate loyalty.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Mm-hmm. Now there's blind faith that coach and or general manager and our player is going to do what we want them to do. Which Bill O'Brien is asking for that. He said, let these things bear out.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Patience, he's preaching for the next few years. And I think Texans fans have been very patient. They have. Matter of fact, y'all have been super patient. Probably amongst the most patient, yes. It's like, you know what it is? It's like you're sitting in the waiting area at a very good restaurant.
Starting point is 00:41:42 And you keep hearing about how great the food is, but your name never gets called. Hmm. There is a, I'll mention it, taste of Texas over on Katie Freeway. Okay. Never been there. Delicious. We should go. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:56 In May 1st. No, I'm waiting a while. I'm not standing in 24% no. But point is, is that their lines are so long. that I don't go there anymore because it's just too long to wait. See, what you do is you get there and you make a reservation, even the reservation of that's like an hour wait. So they give you free chips and salsa and like cubes of...
Starting point is 00:42:19 Do you hold in your hand? No, they have plates out there. They have a little service station with soft drinks. Okay. Peanuts, like cheeses. You can get fat and happy off of that. Damn, this must be good. But at some point, I don't want to just eat the chips and the cheese.
Starting point is 00:42:33 I want to be a lot in the dining room. So Yogi Bearer situation. I can't wait two hours ago in the dining room, even when I had a reservation. Okay. So basically, the Super Bowl championship is the taste of Texas and you're in line as a Texans or Texans fans are in line? Yeah. Okay. You're tired of the chips and salsa.
Starting point is 00:42:52 You want to get to that rib eye and that great salar they have over there. It looks like your name might have been passed up on accident. Isn't that so awkward when you got to go to the hostess and be like, hey, we think you passed us up? Yeah. That's when you go to the, what's your last name? Smith? You're right. It's a party of...
Starting point is 00:43:11 Oh, that you mean the Smith party? Man, you don't do that move. I've done it once in my life. That tastes at Texas. No, I did it at a place called La Margarita in San Antonio, Texas. I was there covering in Oilers preseason game against the Cowboys. Just how old this is. It was me, my old radio partner named Darren Jones,
Starting point is 00:43:37 And Kenny Hand, he used to write for the post. Hmm. Was also on radio for a long time here in town. And the three of us went to go have dinner. And he's like, oh, this line is so long. And so what did I do? I walked up. And I told the matri day, I said, look, we're with Houston media.
Starting point is 00:43:54 We're in a real big hurry. I said, if you can get a sat within five minutes, I'll give you a plug on my radio show. I didn't have a radio show at the time. And Kenny was like, how did you get us this table so fast? You want to pick up the tab. Oh, wow. So not only did I get a fake, I did a fake mention for the faster table.
Starting point is 00:44:14 You lied. But I got the dinner, I got the tab picked up. That was one time in 25 years. Young Matt was much more brazen than older Matt. Older Matt, you know what? Older Matt's done. He's learned from his mistakes. There's a special place in hell for me over that.
Starting point is 00:44:28 That doesn't sound like a mistake. Well, it is. I'm not trying to lead by example here, unfortunately. All right. The NBA put getting a little brush. back on their May 8th opening. We'll tell you a little bit about that. And Ken Rosenthal from Fox Sports
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Starting point is 00:46:42 We'd rather you be safe and driving. So if you're out and about today or at home, Yes. 713212-5-790 is how you reach it. 7-13-212-5-790. So there was originally May 1st was the NBA was going to have their facilities opened up to players. Mark Cuban a couple days ago kind of downplayed that a little bit. And it was a little surprising because I don't think Mark wanted to speak on behalf of the other owners and the commission of the NBA.
Starting point is 00:47:10 He wants the commissioner to make such pronouncements. So yesterday word leaks out that May 8th. is the day, which would be what, a week from Friday, right? Am I right about that, give or take a day? Yes. That they're going to allow as many as four players in an area at the same time. Everybody's wearing gloves and masks and all that kind of thing. There's going to be lots of thorough checking and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:47:35 But it is a small sign. So I was reading a story this morning from ESPN about that there has been a little bit of apprehension about this because of a variety of things. One, not every NBA city is going to be cleared like the other ones are. It feels like the TOTA Center will be available to do such this. Other cities, the California towns will not be cleared. New York teams will not be cleared. I think George and Florida will because they've been out kind of out there.
Starting point is 00:48:13 But I mean, there's probably some other cities where not. thinking of that have not had this, you know, let's reopen for business a little bit. There was a survey done. I'm trying to look it up here from ESPN that basically says there was a poll of general managers that were concerned. The cities that are of most concern are LA, New York, Boston, and Philadelphia that probably will not be able to open up with the rest of the league. That comes to zero surprise.
Starting point is 00:48:40 That there were a lot of executives that were still concerned about the idea. about is the timing appropriate for players to get back into a controlled environment. Local government is saying one thing, is the NBA saying another thing? Also, they're concerned about whether or not it's politically the right thing to do. And that's the problem I think with all these sports teams have to worry about is which league is going to go out there beyond and say, yeah, we're going to start to try to regain some normalcy. we have the president, Ross, we have fans. We have America saying we want our sports.
Starting point is 00:49:22 But then on the other hand, you have these NBA teams that are deathly afraid of what they can get away with, what they can do, what they can, in terms of practicing and getting ready for season, and is it insensitive to everybody else who's worried about how many tests they're going to get, how often they're going to be tested, somebody else contracting the virus, it's an awful conundrum right now for them. And that's where I think some of the hesitation with the NBA general managers are is, are we doing this too soon? The question is to meet for y'all, y'all is when is somebody going to say,
Starting point is 00:49:57 no, it's not too soon, let's go for it? As far as which league? No, or any of the leagues. When is a league going to be able to, not necessarily, literally, but metaphorically put their fist down and say, we're ready. Because none of them are playing with fans. None of them are. We know that.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Not for a long time. It's, I mean, it's about money. It's about how much are we willing to take. And that's because if it weren't about money, anywhere about safety, we wouldn't probably have sports for the rest of the year. Correct? If there weren't television deals to take care of,
Starting point is 00:50:32 we'd have a year off in sports. Right. So that's what it's about. The arenas would be empty. There would be huge financial losses, clearly. But if you could cleanse everything and get everybody ready and everybody healthy, wealthy, and wise and a vaccine was out there and plenty of test, you could just say, you know what, we're done with 2020, we're going to restart everything in 2021. But that's television dollars out there.
Starting point is 00:50:56 That's basically what this comes down to is how much money are people willing to lose? What is even in the details of these contracts about if there are no games, there has to be some kind of doomsday clause in those? Do we get paid none of the money and all that type of stuff and how many games are they're going to be. If the league doesn't get paid, the players don't get paid. Yeah, exactly. So it's just, there's so much to factor in. I think they're trying to do the right thing and trying to do it as quickly as possible,
Starting point is 00:51:22 but they're also obviously nudging this towards the direction of let's get back and do this so that they can make their money. Among a dozen GMs reached by ESPN, most said they had apprehensions about bringing back players into facilities in regions where politics, not science and medical expertise. Ortiz seem to be driving the reopening of businesses. That would mean Georgia. That would mean Florida. That would mean Texas.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Am I forgetting any states? I haven't been keeping on top of it that much. Unfortunately, I have because I've been bored. Okay. Look, the NBA is very politically correct. I mean, the most politically correct of the three sports. Would you guys say, right? I would say so.
Starting point is 00:52:08 They're most socially aware of their environment. Mm-hmm. But here's the problem. If we, how do I say this without, there's, it's not even question being politically correct. It's just somebody's going to have to nudge, right? Or we don't have sports. Because if somebody is saying we have to wait for vaccinations, then we're never going to play sports this year. And probably not going to play sports in 2021, which means there could be death to leagues.
Starting point is 00:52:43 there could be there could be evaporation of college athletics as we speak. I'm not trying to be doing it. I'm just trying to say, who is going to have the stones, who is going to have their ducks and roll the right way, who is going to be able to say, all right, if this happens, we're going to do this. If we're going to set up games, we're going to have this and this. I mean, who has the master plan? Because Major League Baseball doesn't even know what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Yeah, I mean, their plan is changing week by week. Remember guys, it went from Arizona to Arizona and Florida to now Arizona, Florida, and Texas, to we don't know what we're going to play the season, to we play some games and take some time. I mean, we'll talk more about this with Ken Rosenthal coming up at 2 o'clock. And you know what? It's not anybody's fault, right? These are very bright men leading these sports. Although, you know, Manfred's on my ass list right now, but that's neither here nor there.
Starting point is 00:53:44 it's just are we are we going to are we how long are we going to be scared for and should we be scared maybe this is maybe we should be we should all be concerned we're all around with mask on our faces we're obviously scared we're obviously scared of getting something catching this thing but i don't know how we can be as a society ross where we can be worried about this and then at the same time pushing to get what we love back on the television screen it feels like catch 22 to me honestly it just does and that here is yesterday this big announcement, May 8th is when the NBA players are going to be able to go back into facilities. And then you have a story of ESPN saying there's a lot of apprehension because there are regions where politics, quote,
Starting point is 00:54:29 not science and medical expertise, seem to be driving the reopening of businesses. Why can't they just open things up again and leave it up to the players? If someone is scared of getting the coronavirus, they don't have to work. if these guys want to play, let them play. That's what I think we're going to get to at some point. At some point, it's just going to be, if you want to play, you're going to play. If you don't feel comfortable being in a bubble or you don't feel comfortable being around other people like this and you want to self-quarantine still, fine. We can't find you.
Starting point is 00:55:05 But you're right about that because we're kind of going through this right now with our daughter's volleyball team. She's missed a bunch of tournaments already. and there's still a handful left. And the club that which she plays for put out a survey and said, if the state gives the all clear, are you bringing your kids back? And that's in a huge warehouse or whatever, you know, gymnasium or and or whatever that's going to have a thousand kids in it. And they're asking our opinion, are you going to bring your daughter back?
Starting point is 00:55:40 And there's going to be probably 50% that said, yeah, our daughter can't wait to get back on that volleyball court. There'll be 50% that say, Oh, hell no. But I think professional baseball players who are doing this for their livelihood, I don't think there's going to be a lot of them saying, you know what, I'm going to keep it safe and I'm not going to play. I would imagine the vast majority of them want to play.
Starting point is 00:55:56 And it's not necessarily about them. If you took a poll amongst NBA players or MLB players, they would all say, hey, let's play right now and let's get it going as normal with everything in place. It's just, it's not up to them. And I don't know that it should be. Because if you ask the players, are you ready to come back? What are they all going to say? Of course they are.
Starting point is 00:56:17 They're going to say yes. What percentage of them are going to be like? Because they're going to, I mean, the rocket. It'd be a small percentage. Well, very small. But there's going to be players that are going to trust their teams to get things properly maintained, right? Make sure that things are clean and germ-free. All these teams are doing what I would assume would be handling it responsibly.
Starting point is 00:56:40 No one's going to go rogue and say, I'll come back to the old place. It's fine. Right? So how are it? So if you leave up to the players, you're probably going to an overwhelming percentage of, yeah, we're coming back. But yet and again, you've got then people going, why are you rushing back when one more player can once again destroy your season? One more coronavirus. One more positive case.
Starting point is 00:57:02 But what if it comes back in the winter? Like, are we just going to do this all over again? I am. Because if you shut down sports for like two or three years, what's left? They'll never come back. They'll never be close to what they were. The only thing that would come back is the Olympics. In my opinion.
Starting point is 00:57:24 I think sports would come back. But it wouldn't be... It would be smaller. It wouldn't be the larger... It would be different. What are you going to do with these buildings? Like, are they just going to tear down Minutemade Park in four years? No, it's going to sit empty.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Some say, you could probably get it up and operating again in a few years. You'd have to clear out all the rats. You'd have millions more people unemployed. You'd have to clear out the homeless people and stuff, but, you know... And the rats? Yes. There's no rats at me. Minamade Park. Well, there would be.
Starting point is 00:57:52 When's the last time we saw a rat at Minimade? Well, never, but like if they have left it for four years, it'd turn into the Astrodome. So now you're concerned about the rats. Mostly the homeless breaking in. Well, you'd have security around it. I don't know. I just don't want to shut down. I don't, I want those guys to be able to go, you know what? We trust our, we trust our league. We trust the people that they trust.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Let's get going again. But man, they just have the NBA general managers, and again, they're not named in this report, feeling very apprehensive. That to me is not a particularly positive sign. You need as much positivity out there. And I think there's a lot of people that are worried about the political brushback if these guys start ramping up towards playing again. Which to me is hard to comprehend because haven't we heard from everybody?
Starting point is 00:58:34 Sports is such an integral part of our life. We need it back. We need something to focus on. We need some positivity. Look at what the NFL drafted. 55 million people spent the time watching that thing. And that was largely boring. Except for the Tom Rinaldi's stories of terrible people's horrible lives before they got drafted.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Thanks, Tom. I'm never watching a Tom Rinaldi ever again. I can tell you that for damn sure. 713-212-5-790. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. Which sports league is going to have the stones to come out and be the first? 7-13-212-5-7-90. We visit with Ken Rosenthal about the baseball side of it coming up at 2 o'clock
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Starting point is 01:00:26 man you're more sit ready to go just see a crawl next year's NFL drafts can be in Cleveland April 29th through May 1st it's going to be held outside yeah we'll see Cleveland in late April is not like 72 degrees. I don't want to be in Cleveland any point of the year. It's okay. Google things to do in Cleveland.
Starting point is 01:00:57 It's one of my lower third NBA cities. I mean, does have a casino in downtown. Oh, I was just about to ask. Okay, well, now maybe we'll go. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a cool one-time thing. Never been. Okay. I went once and I don't think I ever need to go again, but I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:01:09 All right. Okay. How did you like the wax figures of kiss? I don't think they were there. Okay. So, okay, so to go to Cleveland, it's casino, rock and roll hall of fame, and that's about it, right? This is what we got on this is Cleveland.com. The rock and roll hall of fame is number one.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Duh. Number two is the house from a Christmas story. Never saw the movie. Cedar Point Amusement Park? That's a good one. In April? In Cleveland? It depends.
Starting point is 01:01:43 April, it could be, it could be. be 70, it could be snowing. Well, let's find out what it is right this second. Hold on. You keep going on your list. Number four, the Children's Museum. Of what? The Children's Museum of Cleveland. Every city's got a children's museum.
Starting point is 01:02:00 It's the Children's Museum of Cleveland. The Botanical Garden. And then number six, the Cleveland Browns. You can go see them play. Okay. It's right now 63 degrees in Cleveland. But the draft's going to be held at night. the lows at 56.
Starting point is 01:02:16 The next handful of days forecast would be... It's basically every museum is listed on here. Temperatures are going to range between 51 and 61 in the last next four to five days. To be fair, if I said things to do in Houston, that's probably going to be all the museums as well. Yeah. Don't forget the beer house. And food. Oh, the beer can house?
Starting point is 01:02:33 And women are better looking in Houston. They are in Cleveland. In fact. Probably. I wouldn't know firsthand, but I would assume so. I would assume so. I mean, name is sitting in the Midwest that has better looking women than Houston. This isn't going to happen, Matt.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Nope. Like when you're comparing women in America, you're going L.A., San Diego, Phoenix, Orlando, Miami, Atlanta. Do you notice something? New York. New York women? With their accents? Mm-mm. I feel like there's a bigger population of models and averages.
Starting point is 01:03:08 But they're not from there. They go to New York to go live. Well, that's true. You're basically talking about everything south of, say, St. Louis. Cut the United States in half and go south of St. Louis and you got a pretty good chance. It's true. So I don't know how we got this, but I'm just telling you, the city Cleveland's hosting the draft next year.
Starting point is 01:03:27 And then in 2022, I believe it's Las Vegas. They'll get their turn after all. They're going to, yeah, even though Roger Goodell drunkenly said, okay, maybe not drunkenly, but he said 20-20 on accident. He might have had some pain pillars. I feel like he was maybe on some muscle relaxers or something. I feel like he might have taken a town on all PM by accident. Instead of a vitamin, took a towel on a PM. You know how you get woozy when you take one of those sleeping pills?
Starting point is 01:03:48 And you're just, you mix your metaphors up and whatnot. Oh, and by the way, somebody said Cedar Point is awesome, but it is 60 miles away from Cleveland. That's true. Cedar Point is not close. You got to drive an hour. So you can't even get drunk there. Now, the thing about downtown Cleveland that is good is that all the stadiums are down there. It is, that is kind of cool how it's stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:04:08 The casinos are close. There's plenty of good places to eat. And it's a factory of sadness. I don't think people walk around droopy. Okay. Now, if they're following it, now their sports teams have been largely droopy, except for the Cavaliers, and that was the little LeBron. Thanks to LeBron. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:24 They got lucky LeBron was born in Akron. Yes. LeBron was born and say, I don't know, Colorado Springs, you'd be a Denver Nugget for life. Yes. Okay. 713. I don't know I brought that up, but it's interesting to me. 713-212-5-790.
Starting point is 01:04:42 713-212-5-7-90 if you want to get in today. Bob McGinn, does that name ring a bell to any of you? Bob McGinn. Bob McGinn. Sounds like a play-by-play guy in the 70s. He's a reporter for the Green Bay Packers. Okay. Yeah, I know who Bob is.
Starting point is 01:04:58 He suggests that their decision to go trade up and go get Jordan Love from Utah State was a power move by Matt LaFleur, the new Packers coach, second-year Packers coach, who has called. who has, quote, simply had enough of Rogers Act. Really? And that the love pick, quote, would gain leverage with their imperial quarterback. Love it. Okay, let's do this.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Is that just massive speculation? Because that's what reporters can do. I don't know, Bob McGinn. In 2020, you can speculate and get away with more speculation than you kid in 1994. I think Bob's been covering the team for like four decades, so he's not some 40 seasons, some schmuck out of college. Yeah, but people, writing for SB Nation.
Starting point is 01:05:49 When you have been a reporter for as long as you have, people want to come to you with stuff because they want to be able to say, hey, I told this long-timed, grizzled reporter that I gave him some inside information. His headshot on his Twitter account makes me very uncomfortable. What's uncomfortable about it? He looks like some from his Tinder account. it's definitely like a glamor shots photo for a man in plaid yes what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:06:16 Joe did you go to glamor shots before the wedding nope good boy have either one of you been a glamor shots ever in your life I don't believe I've ever been a glamour shots even around now Olin Mills I don't know what glamour shots is you used to hit the what glamor shots was back in the day when girls they would try to they would soften up the lens
Starting point is 01:06:37 you go get your hair all poofy yeah it was very 1992 yes just Google glamor shots and you'll know exactly what we're talking about. I guarantee there's a website of people that are women's glamor shot photos. There is. Glamour Shots.com. Like the ones that are heavier that only think of a picture of their chins up.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Hey, come on, man. I'm just, I mean, that's, I'm sorry. Nowadays, that's the high point selfie? Is that what it is? Is that what the kids are telling you? Okay, I got you. It's not what the kids are doing. So, okay, is there smoke to this boys, you believe?
Starting point is 01:07:05 Or do you believe this is somebody just kind of whispering in the bottom of here? Hey, you wouldn't believe how pissed off that Aaron Rogers is. I don't know what the reputation of. of a bomb again is. Well, he's been there forever. I knew the name. I have no reason to not believe him. And it sounds totally believable. Didn't everybody else hate Aaron Rogers?
Starting point is 01:07:19 His brother. I don't think Aaron will be the quarterback there in years. Mike McCarthy hated him. You know, the last time the Packers got sideways with the quarterback, where did that quarterback wind up going? To the Jets. The Jets for a year and then on to Minnesota. And so the problem is Aaron, how was Brett when he left to go
Starting point is 01:07:35 to the Jets? Was he... 30s? 38. Okay, so Rogers is 36. the Vikings don't need him because I've got Kirk Cousins locked in for long term. You know who else does though? He's got a quarterback on a two-year contract. Not your team. Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Oh, if he went to the Bears? That'd be worse than going to the Vikings, right? Hold on. Hold on. You're Aaron Rogers' hater number one. Mike Wilbon went on PTI the next day and was like Aaron Rogers would be the quarterback of the Bears in two years. And you would take him in a heartbeat.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Yeah. Because you're a dirty whore. Despite slandering him for the last decade. You're a football horrors, what you are. I would do, I'd be so excited. And I hate Aaron Rogers right now. Hey, let me tell you something. When I lived in Minneapolis and when Brett Farv came to the Vikings,
Starting point is 01:08:24 and I had only been there for like a year, year and a half, there were millions of people that were just crushing the Packers and anything Brett Farb did. And when they found out he was landing at MSP airport, the city went ballistic. TV news helicopters were watching him land and getting to the Vikings facility. It's like Westbrook kind of, right? But we didn't hate Westbro?
Starting point is 01:08:44 A lot of people hated Westbrook. A lot of people hated Westbrook. Well, it was it because... Ask Adam Clinton. 3 to 6, sports talk 790. 18. Yeah, a lot of people hated Westbrook. I just liked him.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Yeah. Now he's on the team. Everyone loves him. I wasn't a big Westbrook fan. He didn't bother me. Well, I was... And I wanted James to win. I mean, I'm going to hide that.
Starting point is 01:09:07 And even the first month of the season, I wasn't really sold. But when he stopped taking three-pointers and just when you watch, Every night the passion that he plays with. Do you remember back in the day when we had games? And remember when Russ was playing out of his mind? Remember when the Rockets lost four in a row, and then they kind of barely beat a Carl Anthony Townsless, Minnesota Timberwolves? It's like two months ago.
Starting point is 01:09:26 It was like. It's March 11th, right? Yeah. Yeah. Where's today? So, like, April 28th. So like a month and a half since sports. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Couldn't sleep last night. Got up at 1 o'clock in the morning. Really? Yeah. Well, I was up, Matt. call me. Yeah, you were probably playing video games. I was up too. No, I was watching TV. Usually I dream about what's going to be on the show the next day or what game we're going to or what times of a flight to XYZ City. Yesterday, I went and looked at the top 20 songs
Starting point is 01:09:58 of the year I graduated high school in that week of. I graduated high school June 1st, 1990. Don't you forget about me? No, that was probably earlier. And I thought about going to face. I'm sorry, I'm going to do a Facebook thread of Ace of Bass. Songs that I grew up with in 1990. That's what I've come down to. What were some of the hits of that year? I'm glad you asked. When did you graduate high school? In 1990.
Starting point is 01:10:19 I'm looking right now. Vogue Madonna. That was the number one song in the week that we graduated. Here were real fast. Here were the top 20 songs of June 2nd, 1990. You just randomly said, you know what? I'm going to go look this up. Yeah, because I'm going to do Facebook post.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Oh, okay. I'm going to do high school memories. I'm going to attach the songs to them because I'm going to be bored. All right. Baby It's Tonight, number 20. It was that week? I don't know that one. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:44 I want to be rich. I do know that one. This old heart of mine, Rod Stewart. Your baby never looked good in blue, expose. That was number 17. Don't know that one. Step by step, number 16, new kids in the block. Do you remember Phil Collins number 15?
Starting point is 01:11:01 Yeah. Hold on in Vogue. Turtle power by Partners in Crime. Ready or not, after 7 was number 12 and found the board. Number 11 was the Humpty Dance. Ooh, that's a classic right there. Number 10 was, Ooh, La La, La.
Starting point is 01:11:17 I can't get over you by the perfect gentleman. No idea what that is. Number nine was, you can't touch this. Yes, that's a hit right there. Eight was sending all my love. Seven. Sending all my love by who? Lanier.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Don't know that. Number seven, nothing compares to you by Shanae O'Connor. Number six was must have been loved by Roxette. Number five, poison by Bellevib DeVoe. Ooh, now that's a jam. Number four, All right by Janet Jackson. number three was hold on by Wilson Phillips Number two is all I want to do is make love to you by heart
Starting point is 01:11:49 And the number one song June 2nd, 1990 was Vogue by Madonna Vogue is all right Poison is the best song in that And that was she didn't hook up with Dennis Robin until six years after that, seven years By the way, did you see Carmen Electra told a reporter
Starting point is 01:12:07 I think it was on Howard Sternshaw or whatever that her and Dennis Robin would have sex all over the Chicago Bulls practice facility in the training room on the court anywhere and everywhere they were together. They were having sex in the Chicago Bulls facility. That's one thing when they bring the NBA players back boys. They will not allow to have sex in the Rockets practice facility. Can you imagine having sex on a basketball court? That would seem kind of uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Very uncomfortable. Speaking of getting some floor burns. Yeah, it's not good. The squeaking noise. I'm glad you said it up me. Ken Rosenthal joins us in 25 minutes. 132 on the Matt Thomas show. 713-212-5-79 if you want to get in.
Starting point is 01:12:55 7-13-212-5-7-9. By the way, if you go to Cleveland, Desire says that there is a quick trip to Canton where the Pro Football Hall of Fame is. You can end that on things are doing Cleveland, right? How far away is Clinton? About 45 minutes, I think. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:12 I mean, not great. No, I guess, I mean, the number one thing to do in Houston is probably go see NASA, and that's a ways away. Nobody does that anymore, do they? Do you even go to NASA anymore? I think if you come visit Houston, yeah. I don't know. Who would ever come here intentionally for a vacation? If you got family here or something.
Starting point is 01:13:26 That's true, that's true. 133 on 790. At home say, Alexa, play Sports Talk 790 on I-Hard Radio. All right, Ross, real quick, I need you. We had 10 winners in our NFL draft contest. 10? 10. What were the questions?
Starting point is 01:13:48 They were actually too easy. We had five questions. One was, will the Texans draft a tight end? I got to throw that one out because it's been a couple of years in the back. It might have happened, but probably not. The answer was no to that.
Starting point is 01:14:01 They had three seven-term picks at the time, so you figured they might take a flyer on somebody. In all honesty, there was a team that picked a tight end in the second round and they had ten tight ends on their roster, I think of the drafts. What team was that, Joe? Other bears.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Okay. Question number two was, will the Texans make a trade? And the answer was yes to that. Next year we're going to do how many trades are going to make because apparently Bill O'Brien's traitor bill. He was wheeling and dealing. He was whaling and dealing. Instead of Trader Joe's? I like that. We had the question three was what number will the Texans or the two will be drafted and he went number five. Most people had six to ten because I guess they were reading the NFL. You know, you may not be taking him in five, but Miami went up and did that.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Yeah, but even if he was going to slide, it felt like somebody would have traded up for him. fourth question was will the Texans have more offensive or defensive and the answer was defensive well they chose all defense it was kind of an easier one this year because of all the free agent signings were mostly offensive and then the question was what position do the
Starting point is 01:14:57 Texans take and we went with defensive line linebacker so 10 people so Ross I need you to and you've not seen the list I have not I want you to name three numbers between one and 10 you can use one you can use 10
Starting point is 01:15:12 and of those three people they will be winning. There are gift cards to specs, our certificates to Rudy's Barbecue, and Shamaguchi. We're giving those away here in the next couple of minutes. We'll send them off, but it's up to you decide who wins those three
Starting point is 01:15:29 because 10 perfect answers won it. 4, 5, 6. 4, 5, and 6. All right, the winners of that. Congratulations to those folks. That would be, 1, 2, 3, Mark V. Will you? You picked Will J. O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:15:48 69. Jacko 69 at Gmail. I shouldn't say it, but it's anyway. Hold on. Bill O'Brien won the contest? Yeah, well, for Jacko, 691. The guy that's, that was the burner account. Wait, for real? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Well, this, that's, that's a fake. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, no. This is good. Bill O'Brien's real name is William James O'Brien. It's not him, no. It can't be. No, but we're going to, you're going to find. out who the burner is.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Oh, I don't know who it is. The guy in Twitter already announced who he was. Oh, he did? Yeah. Who do you say? I think his Twitter is like Coach Middle Screen or something like that. I don't know. I don't know him.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Oh, okay. The guy who sent you that is that person. Not Ford Jacko. No, the email address is, well, I can say. Who cares? Because Ford Jacko is 69, by the way. He did love the Texans draft. Yeah, Ford Jacko 69 is one of the winners.
Starting point is 01:16:39 He was winner number five. I'm talking about that's the person who's the Bill O'Brien burner. Right. He's just a fake person. He's just a real, he's a person trying to pretend he's a Bill O'Brien insider. He's pretending he's a burner. Yes. It's very confusing.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Yeah. And Wes Orton, congratulations to West. So Mark, Will, and Wes have won their prizes. We'll get to those guys the next couple of days. Oh, wow. Four Jacko is cussing people out. Yeah. It wasn't really him.
Starting point is 01:17:07 You can't read out a lot, can you? How about you shut the bleep up, mother bleep? Yeah, that sounds like Bill O'Brien for sure. By the way, Ken Rosenthal just canceled. He says, I owe you one. Okay, check my back with him tomorrow. Okay, I said, sure. Okay, we'll get them tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Yeah, well, we got time. I've got to plan more for the nightcap now. Ooh, there went 15 minutes of your nightcap show today. That's unfortunate about that. Matt, because we get relevant, great, hard-hitting guests on the nightcaps. In different audiences. No, why in this show? Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:37 So congratulations those three gentlemen. I'm also going to bring it up here. Oh, we're going to play the audio coming back. Hey, the best fight in the NBA doesn't involve. guys on the court, right? Going on right now? Yes. Correct.
Starting point is 01:17:51 It's an off-court feud. Against one of the current great... A Hall of Famer and a probable future Hall of Fame. Yeah. He's going to the Hall of Fame. Both have Hall of Fame mouths. Yes. We'll hear from the next.
Starting point is 01:18:05 143 on Sports Talk 790. Right. Half the workday is done. Celebrate with Matt. Hey, Matt. Love your show. Look, what was I talking about? Some of you started the party at breakfast.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Matt Thomas on Sports Talk 790. Time is 147. God, the off-air Matt Thomas show is so much better than the on-air. I just can't even... We're having a great debate about Sylvia Vergara and her niece. Is it a great debate? I think either way, you can't go wrong. Should I just slap this up on the Matt Thomas blog?
Starting point is 01:18:51 Do this for our audience that is taking the time to spend some time with us today. No emphasis on slap this up. Sorry. I didn't think I could even put in words proper, but I just did. Sophia Vergara and her niece took a photo with each other. Yes. We don't see their faces. Correct.
Starting point is 01:19:13 What do you see, Matt? They're derrieres. Well, nobody says derrier in 2020. Well, I'm sure she's in a doggy-style position. I didn't say that. We don't know which one's her niece and which one's her. But frankly, you both win. So Ross is going to put up a blog right now at Sports790.com.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Which one is Sophia and which one is her niece? So be ready for that. All right. We talked about the greatest fight going on in sports today and basketball side. Nothing to do with the on-court action is what's happening off the court. Ramon Green and Charles Barkley have been going at it for what? A couple of years now it feels like. The latest round, here's Draymond.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Oh, we want to go Chuck first. Draymond first. This is from the All the Smoke podcast that Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson do. And this is basically just crushing Charles Barkley for like 65 seconds. I got a lot of respect for Charles Barkley to basketball player. I was a fan of basketball growing up. Charles Barkley was a great basketball player. He never won shit.
Starting point is 01:20:30 And, you know, his, Charles Bradley has kind of had this beef with me since I started coming up. You know what I'm saying? So I started coming up in this league. It's always him throwing a shot, throwing a shot, throwing a shot. And for years, I didn't respond. You know what I'm saying? It's just like, whatever, you know, Charles Barkley, you're a great player. Like, I'm not going to respond, whatever.
Starting point is 01:20:49 And it's just keep throwing a shot, throwing a shot. Honestly, it's jealousy. You know what I'm saying? It's jealousy that somebody, the same side of the guy, as him or smaller, could come in the league and have a success I had, make the money I've made, win the championships I've won. These are all things that Charles Barkley wasn't able to do. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:21:11 Like, Charles Berkeley is kind of like a lot of these fans. Like, he scored more points than me. I'm cool. You know what I'm saying? But that don't necessarily mean you have more impact on a game than me. Your thoughts, Matthew. Did Draymond have more impact on games? Charles is a way better player.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Way better. I agree. I think. I think Drayman's average. I wouldn't say he's average. Yeah, I mean, he's a defense player of the year. He's a good. What we talked about kind of last night about Dennis Rodman.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Dennis Rodman is like an all-world role player. You're never going to win a championship with Dennis Rodman as your best player on the team. You're never going to win a championship with Draymond Green as your best player. player on the team. But if he's your two or three, you've got a pretty good team. And at one point was a five-by-five player. He can't shoot anymore. I mean, he's very, very limited outside of the free throw line. But offensive rebounder could go against anybody on the other side of the floor defensively stay with him. No, as much as I dislike Draymond, I'm not going to devalue what he has been to the Warriors and what he is currently the NBA. But he is obviously getting sideways with Chuck
Starting point is 01:22:26 and after hearing what Dremont had to say, here's Charles' response. One thing, Chuck's not, I'm not jealous of anybody. I like messing with him. I like him. I think he's a good player. I like his personality. But I get annoyed when these guys who are born into money think they're successful. I told you, he's like the worst member of the board band who doesn't realize he's standing
Starting point is 01:22:50 next to Justin Timber. Like when the girls are throwing panties at his head, he's going to get hit by some drive-by. panties, but they're really throwing panties at Justin Timberlake. You know, you see that out without, I tell people, Draymond's a good little player, but without Kevin Durant
Starting point is 01:23:09 Clay and Steph, he's just a good little player. You know, and he's a good role player, and I like him too, but it annoys me when these guys start talking about when they won something. Yeah, I mean, there's some guys who won stuff who play with Magic and Bird. I'm talking about how great a player they are. are. It's just like, man, I'm lucky to play
Starting point is 01:23:28 with Bird and Magic and those guys. Going to throwing the painting card is never a bad thing. It is, though, because there is that same exact clip as basically in our system already. Because Charles said that on the Dan Patrick show. So he has no new material.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Well, because he's kind of tight, though. He's tired of occurring. And it's so effective. You ever hear jokes by the funniest comedian in America? Guess what? I got news for you, Joe. They don't just say him in Houston. I know. Dave Chappelle uses the same material in Houston he uses in Dallas. And in Wichita, wherever else he goes.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Trust me on this. He's not wrong, though. I mean, Draymond Green is a little out of line here, saying, oh, yeah, he scored more points, but he didn't have more impact. And talking about how he changed the game and stuff like, Draymond Green changed the game?
Starting point is 01:24:20 Teams in Phoenix and in Philadelphia were built around Charles Barkley. They were. You're never going to build a team around Draymond Green. You're just not. No. And I think that's where the argument starts. finishes. There's also argument in there about money and how Draymond
Starting point is 01:24:35 Green had made more money. I mean, that's irrelevant. Oh, not even close. Charles played in the 80s and 90s. It was just the money was different. But I'll tell you what. As Scottie Pippen. As soon as Draymond retires, he's going to television. He really is. You think so? Absolutely. Is he going to be good?
Starting point is 01:24:51 Well, Paul Pierce is on there. I wouldn't consider him any good. I think Dramon will be he'll be Charles level good. You think so? Yeah. Just this interaction alone he'll he's here just like chuck here's the reason why draymond will be good is because he will give you ill-informed opinions and then want to fight you about them so looks like charles barclay so basically he fit perfectly in and so the nb yeah he just needs a shack though so who's going to be a shack that's
Starting point is 01:25:17 the question could be chuck how old is chuck it's got to get what in his 60s I mean draymond's still probably got like six or seven years left of basketball right 57 Chuck's only 57 yeah he'll be around maybe when draymond's out I mean it's a great it's a great man it's a great man's a great job. They work with it 30 weeks a year, probably get paid an exorbitant amount of money. Tony Romo, by the way, helped all those guys out. Everybody that's good on television has to thank Tony Romo for getting the outrageous amount of money he's going to do for doing the NFL. Because that bumps up Shaq, it bumps up Charles, it bumps up Herb Street, and it's going to bump up Draymond Green. I mean, as much we hate Draymond Green, if Draymond Green is hosting a studio show,
Starting point is 01:25:55 the three of us are going to watch it show way more than we would if they weren't. Like, does anybody put on the ESPN NBA broadcast in order to hear what Jay Williams has to say? No. Not really. I like Jalen Rose. I don't think he's a guy that necessarily is going to be a must-point. But when Jaylon's on, I do value his opinion. Although he has been completely losing his mind over the Detroit Pistons set the last couple days.
Starting point is 01:26:18 That was his hometown team growing up. Yeah. And he has defended them with zero, I mean, with 100% bias, basically. saying that Isaiah is one of the greatest point guards ever to play and never gets any run. Isaiah is curiously underrated. He is good. But as we talked about on our Monday night meeting last night, you think of the greatest point guards. Irvin Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Oscar Robertson, and I go on.
Starting point is 01:26:52 What's, what level does Isaiah on that list or does he hit, is he down a couple of spots in the ladder? I guess we just never think of them as that guy. Like we were talking about yesterday, was it? This Pistons team won two championships in the midst of holding back Michael Jordan's dynasty, in the midst of the Celtics and the Lakers dynasties in the 80s, the two greatest dynasties, two of the greatest dynasties in the history of the NBA, they won two championships in that era. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Isaiah is right. They don't get enough credit. When they say the 80s was full of the Lakers and the Celtics, well, guess who the one team they slayed both? the one team that sled those teams, both those teams. It was the Detroit Pistons. Right. Still hate Beal on beer. Yeah, there's no reason.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Like, for instance, people... I think that's a part of it. That team was just hated. They were the bad boys. They were tough. They were... Like, I'm supposed to hate... I'm supposed to hate everything Utah Jazz, and I generally do.
Starting point is 01:27:45 Yeah. But the Rockets still got their number more times than not. When I think of the teams that I absolutely despised when I was growing up, it was the Pistons because not only were they beating the teams that I kind of liked, but they were such a-holes about it. So for me, the two greatest hated groups of teams ever in my life are the 80 Celtics because they beat the Rockets twice, and they would beat the Lakers when I was a Lakers.
Starting point is 01:28:12 I enjoyed watching the Lakers when the Rockets weren't playing. And the Detroit Pistons who just wanted to beat the hell out of you. Do you know the Detroit Pistons in 2008-89 Pistons could not survive a game in 2020? They'd all be thrown out. Yeah. I mean, instead of calling him flagrant one fouls, they should be called Piston one fouls.
Starting point is 01:28:32 Because that's exactly the reason why these rules were put into play. Because those gentlemen didn't want to go out there and be aggressive. They just wanted to hurt you. And as we learned, when Michael got in the weight room and got stronger, I was able to take a few of those blows. And why, when did Horace Grant get so soft all of a sudden? You mean, do we?
Starting point is 01:28:52 But I mean, like, he was afraid of them. I mean, he was probably young in his career. I think of Horace Grangling, the badass and the magic. But he also was with the Bulls too. Yeah, three-time champion. He toughened up. He did toughen up, just like Michael wanted him to. Final hour of the Matt Thomas show starts in a matter of moment.
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Starting point is 01:31:07 So needless to say, I think we're trying to change things up a little bit because as much as the draft would be interesting to some and frankly, bore as others. And the NFL Ross, unfortunately, just has to kind of, we've only really got one thing left to do with it when it comes to Texans, maybe pick up a safety here and there because I got rid of Tayshon Gibson yesterday. Contracts. And signed three, though. Yeah, but, yeah, but none of them are like, whoa.
Starting point is 01:31:35 Well, neither was Tashon Gibson. And that kind of worked out that way. It's funny because Rick Smith was a guy that was always known for picking up the hashtag street free agents and did okay with it. Maybe the best one of all time was Arian Foster. But you don't build franchises in most circumstances with your street free agents. It's a good way to plug holes. Absolutely, it is.
Starting point is 01:31:58 To build debt. But if you have issues in the starting lineup, you know, there's another safety out there that's related to Justin Reed. Thomas Reed Billy Reed No You're shaking your head at me Eric Reed Go ahead
Starting point is 01:32:19 Do you go get a guy that has been Needless to say socially active What he likes to go out and bar hop Social awareness active A man that is kneeled for the national anthem in fighting for social justice. Isn't it crazy?
Starting point is 01:32:41 Did that kind of dissipate towards Zanda last year? I felt like it was such a hot button topic for a long time. And then it just kind of cooled off. Like most... Of anything. Yeah, I was going to say, not necessarily related to sports, but most things that have this,
Starting point is 01:33:00 oh, I can't believe this, I'll never do this again. You wind up doing it. Or I can't believe these players are doing it. And then the players be like, we're going to do this in solid unity. and it just kind of dissipated after a while. Is that how that little era in NFL football will be treated? Or do you think it'll always be a situation where teams will have four to five players
Starting point is 01:33:18 that will take a knee every time? I don't even know how many players are still currently taking a knee. At this point, the answer is zero because no one is doing anything. Yeah, that's true. But it didn't feel like to me, and again, we're talking about January. It's been a few months, but it doesn't feel like that it was a huge issue in NFL circles as the season was moving along. Well, Eric Reed continues to be for a free agent.
Starting point is 01:33:43 Seems to be like he, it seems like he can play pretty well, but who knows? How old is he now? He's 20, he's only 28? Yeah, because Justin's young. And didn't he say there was like six years separation between them, age-wise? Probably something like that. I don't, guys, I don't know if I see the Texans ever going in any sort of controversial. It was more of like a Bob McNair thing.
Starting point is 01:34:07 Is that to do this, I guess, I mean, you should. Do you really notice anything different between Cal and Bob how they run in their operation? Not really, but I don't know. I mean, I'm not inside the building every day, so I don't know. We'd love to get inside the building once in a while. I don't know what Cal's doing up there. Oh, I think I kind of do. What?
Starting point is 01:34:25 You think he's doing crosswords? No, he's cashing. Word finds. Spot the difference in the comics? Who did that? Cal? Is that what he's doing up there? You mean like find the four things
Starting point is 01:34:38 They're wrong Yeah exactly They're different between the two pictures I haven't thought about that forever Should we make our own with that Sophia picture Oh Add some things to it Spot the difference
Starting point is 01:34:48 I just want to spot the similarities I wish we could do an entire hour On Sophia in her niece But unfortunately we probably could Well That'll be the Zoom meeting after the Again another case of point where the off the air meeting Of the top of the show
Starting point is 01:35:04 it's significantly better than the on-the-air product. So back, what was I going with this? Oh, so Mr. Reed needs a place to play. Yeah. Justin can speak highly of the organization. Mm-hmm. I think when you bring in a controversial player, maybe even Eric's not even a controversial player.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Well, people still be all up in arms if Eric Reed were Houston Texan? I don't think so. I think if... And he, when he was going to kneel for the national... Was he, is he good now? Is he still good? No, I don't know. I mean, he's bounced around a little bit.
Starting point is 01:35:34 the last couple of years, right? Is that because he's been a Saturnin Cab casualty, or he hasn't been able to play his position? He was with the Niners until 17, and then he's been with Panthers last couple of years. And why they get rid of him there? Just because the contract ran out, or do they dump him early? Played 16 games last year, four sacks, six passes defended? I don't know what he, I mean. Not that we spent a lot of time looking at Carolina. I've been watching a lot of Eric Reed tape. And I should go look at my Eric, my Panther YouTube highlights and find out on exactly what he'd be
Starting point is 01:36:05 on there for. I don't know. It just feels like that they didn't address it in the draft. They went and got some free agents. Two of the three had never played full time in the NFL, or at least were not known for it. And you got rid of Tayshon Gibson, which meant that in theory they would be,
Starting point is 01:36:22 you're not going to give, what's his face, the Brown's safety. I'm losing a, drawn a blank. Eric Harris? No, the new signing for the Texans. I mean, Eric, what am I? Murray, Eric Murray, that's right. Who's Eric Harris?
Starting point is 01:36:40 They're not going to give Eric Murray the keys to the secondary, are they? For a guy that has had no... Justin Reed. Justin Reed is the... Well, you have to have two safeties, though. I'm just saying, he's the lead dog. It just feels like to me that's a little bit of a stretch to bring in a guy that had never been a significant full-time contributor long-term for an NFL team and hand him a spot. Although maybe the Texans see a dime in the rough, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:37:06 That would have to take some incredible scouting for somebody to say that Eric Murray is a guy that just hasn't been able to become a starter for all the right reasons. We're going to bring him here and make them a starter. When you've been playing for a team like Cleveland has not been very good for a long period of time. It seemed to be a little bit of a stretch. That's why I just can't imagine that the team won't at least try to kick the tires on maybe one or two of their safeties before at the time they get to the turning camp, whatever that may be. I mean, Eric Reed signed a last year he signed a three-year deal. They cut him after one deal, a year. So maybe he's not that good anymore.
Starting point is 01:37:42 But Justin said he broke a bunch of Panthers' single-season records last year. I think he had a really good year. So was he just making too much money? Maybe he's not a Matt Rule guy? I mean, they're making a lot of changes. Maybe Matt Rule doesn't take any kneeling. Yeah, but as I said before, it feels like to me that just is, as big of a deal as it was, say, three or four years ago.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Not that, I mean, again, people are certainly welcome and entitled to state their own case of, you know, what they think is a way to promote social justice. I mean... Okay, people are pointing out to on Twitter as well. Kenny Stills knelt during the anthem. So did Michael Thomas, who they just signed. Okay, so there's a little bit of problem. So good. That's good.
Starting point is 01:38:26 Yes. That would mean that the organization wouldn't be a completely void of taking guys that may have had that. I would like them to not blackball players because they take a knee. I mean, he had... It's ridiculous. He had 130 combined tackles last year. His next highest was 77 in 2013 his rookie year. He had four sacks, seven tackles for loss, five quarterback hits.
Starting point is 01:38:51 I mean, he played... It looked like he played incredible last year, just based on basic stats. So maybe just they didn't want to pay him. They regretted the contract. Or they just... Which is exactly what they did with Tashon Dips. Remember he sent a three-year deal this? passed and he only planned for one of those three years.
Starting point is 01:39:08 I think it would be fun to bring his brother, have both those guys back there? I mean, in a pure to fire each other up kind of way, it's very rare that brothers are on the same team. Could you imagine how much fun they would have and how they would be always working to make each other better? We see it in New England. It works great with the McCourtney twins. That's true. Which one do we have on the show? McCarty?
Starting point is 01:39:35 I don't remember. And the Super Bowl one you were talking about? Yeah, we had one McCordy Twin come on the show, and he was really good. Well, it would have been whichever one wasn't on the Patriots first. He was the Titans. Which one? Devin, was it Devin McCordy?
Starting point is 01:39:46 I think so. Donnie? Marky? I think Devin was the one that was on the Patriots first. I don't know. Again, I would like to see, this time you're now, the draft is in the Texas don't have a lot of money to spend salary cap-wise because they've still got to potentially hold out hope long-term for Deshawn
Starting point is 01:40:05 to see some value picked up. And I would think that maybe they would get a little bit of a discount if Justin had changed to play with his brother. Because it sounds like to me Justin likes playing here, right? There was no signs. And again, in our brief visit that there was like, I can't believe what we're doing here. I don't trust the coach.
Starting point is 01:40:24 I don't trust the general manager. I don't like the work atmosphere. I don't like the direction of the team. So I don't know. Who's to say? But it feels like that's one position where they probably could use another. body before the start of a training camp.
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Starting point is 01:41:03 Rockets, PA announcer and sports talk show host. One might get the impression Matt Thomas loves to hear Matt Thomas's voice. Go ahead, Matt, talk for us. So what does pro football focus say about Eric Reed? Are we going to like this or not? Well, if you're with the Reed family, probably not. Of course, Matt, not an end-all-be-all. This is just one ranking system from one website.
Starting point is 01:41:37 they had him in 2017 as a 70.3 out of 100, 43 out of 87 safeties. In 18, he took a dip. 55 out of 93 safe 55th. Last year, they had his overall grade at 46.6. He ranked 85th out of 88 qualifying safeties. All right. Well, there's your, what was your favorite thinking about Eric Reed as a Texan moment, but never is going to happen?
Starting point is 01:42:04 But that makes sense that he, I mean, this. kind of correlates with him getting cut in the first year of a three-year deal. If he was this bad and perform that poorly, of course, the Panthers would let him loose and he would be a free agent currently. And by the way, when you're among the leaders and tackles, that either means you're being thrown on or the team in front of you is not very good. The front seven is not doing very well. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:42:26 2125.719. If you want to get in, 713, 212, 5-790. And on Twitter, it's at SportsMT. Sports Harvey and at Joe George Radio. Hey, Ken Rosenthal is going to join us later this week, but because of something he could not join us today, there are more and more stories about how Major League Baseball is going to try to handle their situation in terms of trying to play. There is thoughts of maybe doing it in three states now, Texas being one of them,
Starting point is 01:43:03 Okay. Helping that two of them, all the states have dome stadiums. That can't be a bad thing, right? Where weather doesn't have to play any factor at all. That's why it seems to me to make a lot of sense that you would involve California, excuse me, you'd involve Arizona, Texas, and Florida in the mix, correct? Yeah, warm. We're going to be a little warm.
Starting point is 01:43:26 That's okay. You've got some dome stadiums you can work with. Well, again, you could probably play tripping. headers in there? I would have to be, I mean, not on natural grass, right? Would that be okay? I mean, it's baseball, so I mean, you're on the dirt path? But still, it's still beat up turf is beat up turf.
Starting point is 01:43:46 You're absolutely right about that. I guess it's going to get a little worn out between the catcher and the pitcher. I think Chase Field has now gone to a field. Yeah, Chase Field's all completely turf, so you're fine there. Do we know at Globe Life Park? It's probably grass. Most places are grass. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Minute Maid for sure is. grass. So, you know. You want to open up the Astrodome? Have people playing there? Clear out the rats? It could be done. So this is according to Ken Rosenthal, we wanted to talk about today.
Starting point is 01:44:17 He says, even though the three straight idea reported by CBS might be less ambitious than the one baseball ultimately selects, the league could open up in 10 or 12 states or as many as 20 home parks. Or they could start, this is where it gets really bizarre, guys. it could start in Florida, Texas, and Arizona, then take a break after, say, five weeks to reassess the viability of moving into other locations. Even states hit hardest by the virus, New York, Michigan, and California might welcome the return of baseball and empty stadiums, signing it as an example of life returning to normal. A quick note, Arlington's field is artificial turf, as is Marlins Park, and as is Tropicanne Field. Well, I forgot about Trump.
Starting point is 01:45:06 That's too, yeah. You know what? I bet you you could put an artificial turf down at Minutemade Park. I've seen them pull the grass before. Yeah, what they want. Would they, uh, yeah, I guess they do it. They did it in the off season, right? They did in the off season.
Starting point is 01:45:18 And I saw them do it one year in the middle of the season, I think. Where they literally pick up the grass. I've seen Minutemate Maid Park on a dirt floor, a dirt field. Now, I guess I don't, I don't know how they... Installing turf. Yeah. It costs millions, right? Why would it cost millions?
Starting point is 01:45:40 I remember, just as a reference, like, when my high school football stadium got a turf field, it cost a million bucks. Because it was a big deal. And that's a football field, so I don't know what the difference is. The longer the sport waits, the greater the number of options might arise. The most realistic time range for opening day, somewhere between mid-June and July 4th, in the view of most officials would allow for an 80 to 100 game schedule running through October, an expanded postseason at neutral sites might follow with the World Series ending in late November or early December. Such a plan would hold particular appeal for the league's national broadcast partners
Starting point is 01:46:25 if the college football season is abbreviated or canceled, creating more programming slots. The NFL plans to play this fall. See, I think about the Where they take like play five weeks and then stop and then re-evaluate That's where I think you have to play in your divisions You can't do Cactus League and Grapefruit League Because like doesn't make any sense to
Starting point is 01:46:53 After five weeks everything go back to normal And then the Astros are able to play in Houston But they're still playing their Grapefruit League opponents So how would you explain the absence in games you play five weeks against everybody in your own division. And then what do you call that? Like a break? I guess that's your all-star break.
Starting point is 01:47:15 Could be. You don't have an all-star game, but it's just like, or it's just your break? How many games are you going to get in against? These are 14 divisions. How are you going to play everybody like 15, 20 times? It's going to be unbalanced.
Starting point is 01:47:33 I don't know. It just, I don't know if. want to watch the A's and Astros 19 times in 30 days. That would get old. Especially if like a team runs away with it. Like if the Astros just smoke the West and the Astros are shelling Mike fires every week. That's kind of cool.
Starting point is 01:47:52 That'd be nice. Multiple opportunities for him to set out. And frankly, if one team of the division is so much better, then you're going, and I don't know how much you lose interest, but if you get a good, build a nice lead, is that what you're saying? Well, for instance, the Yankees. Let's take a look at the American League East. Toronto probably isn't going to contend.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Baltimore is awful. Boston's taken several steps back. Tampa Bay may be interesting. But in theory, if you're playing those other four teams, a boatload of times, you're going to be getting fat and happy off that division record. And then is it really even any sort of close to being balanced scheduling at all? Where if you're playing and, like, what would be the most competitive division in the American League? Would there be one?
Starting point is 01:48:37 I mean, Minnesota, maybe the White Sox could be a surprise team this year. But Minnesota feels like they're the cleave frame. The White Sox would take a leap from being completely awful to okay. Yeah, I mean, the White Sox Indians' twins is interesting. But probably the West is probably the most competitive. The Astros, the Angels with the changes they've made, the A's. The Mariners are up and down and the Rangers could be solid too. Rangers could be better.
Starting point is 01:49:03 Yeah, they could be compared. The one thing that might be able to change a little bit of this is that there's no way the Yankees are going to play a home game in the first five weeks of the season. There may be a chance the New York Yankees don't even play an entire game in the city of New York this entire season. Well, what if they sequestered them by the AL West and the NL West? And instead of just playing your own division, you're playing that collection of teams. So instead of playing four other teams, you're playing nine other teams. and those are the only teams you play this year. I can buy that.
Starting point is 01:49:37 I don't think you can just say, if they break this into quadrants, this quadrant play just beat the hell out of each other for the first two months. Because if you're going to do the three system setting, the Western teams would play in Arizona, the central teams could play in Texas, and then the Eastern teams would play in Florida. Okay, so you take this five-week hiatus, or you play for five weeks, and then you take a hiatus,
Starting point is 01:50:01 then whose decision is to say, well, What if New York turns the corner and California doesn't? Are you just opening up a new location and then keeping California that the A's and the Giants can't play any home games? Because their state's not any better off? Or if New York can't play anything, then are we cutting off New York, but yet maybe Cleveland and Cincinnati can start playing games again? That's why I feel like once it starts, that should be what happens. Permanently for me. If you start in three states and that's it, you finish in those three states.
Starting point is 01:50:35 Don't change it five weeks in. That seems weird. But I'm telling you, this is the reason why Rosenthal wrote it in the article today. There are going to be some teams. They're going to be like, hey, our cities are getting back to somewhat normality. We want to play our games at, you know, progressive field in Cleveland. We're the Indians. We're tired of being here in Texas.
Starting point is 01:50:56 We want to see our families. And it helps the local economy, too. No, because I don't think... Oh, that's right. No one's going to be there. Never mind. It does. If bars are open and sports bars are open.
Starting point is 01:51:12 That's true. I guess. I mean, they're just to watch them either way. If you can't go to Minute Maid, people are going to flock to sports bars. Like the Union Station, like around there or something? Like, they're going to... I mean, the...
Starting point is 01:51:23 What do you call it? Homeplate? Yeah. I would... I completely disagree. Yeah. You don't think so. You don't think people are going to, like, just go to big city wings and watch all their
Starting point is 01:51:31 they're going to go to restaurants. They're not going to go to restaurant, but they're not going to... but it's not going to, it's not going to reinvigorate a community. People are not going to say the Astros are playing on TV today. Let's go to a sports bar and watch it. They're going to probably, if they can watch it home,
Starting point is 01:51:41 they're going to watch it home. Yeah. The sports bar bit works for like playoff games and fan group settings. Like if you're a, let's say you're an Alabama fan living in Houston, you know, and Big City has an Alabama alumni club.
Starting point is 01:51:57 That's where they make the money on those kind of things. But for just a regular, regular season game, I don't think it affects restaurants and bars all that. much. Now it helps because back in the day when I wanted to go eat with my family and I wanted to watch the Astros game, I can go to a sports bar and watch. So at least you'll have that there'll be games on in those places that you normally would go. But I don't think it spikes it. I think they will be the players will say, let's go to Texas and play for a while. But give us this time off as he said in
Starting point is 01:52:27 the article and let's see if we can reopen up Cincinnati, if we can reopen Kansas City, if St. Louis can all of a sudden host our games. Because these baseball players are going to get cranky after a while. They've been in the same hotel room and in the same city, which is not theirs, for 45, 60 days. And by the way, Ross, we haven't even talked about spring training. Whatever they did in March is long gone. Arms have to be built up again. That's an interesting thing, especially with baseball, more than even more than any other ones.
Starting point is 01:53:00 That's right. because NFL players don't even they haven't even this they're still their schedule has not been altered major league baseball players from the batters to the pitchers to the building their arm strength they have they don't know where to go with this and you have these veteran players who i mean they plan like every day of their off season i'm going to work off this this day i'm going to take off this day i'm going to work on throwing from a flat ground throwing long toss all that type of stuff all that's thrown out of the window and that's why the reason why i thought maybe the spring training thing would have a little more legs to it because at least they're familiar with their spring
Starting point is 01:53:33 training facilities and that they at least know the creature comforts of being in west palm beach or in tampa for a month or so this is i mean when when when when does major league baseball give the green light because when they do that that's still going to be 30 to 45 days you just can't put a baseball team out there to compete two weeks after saying we're ready to play baseball again and by the way there's no schedule the schedule they've been they have on your on your on the little Magnetboard? You can throw that thing away. I can't use my pocket schedule anymore. No, don't use a pocket. It's wasted paper is what it is.
Starting point is 01:54:06 2.30 on the Matt Thomas show. 713, 212, 5, 790. These are things we have conjecture. This is what we talk about are at the house. We all want sports back. But none of us have the exact right answer. And here's the God's honest truth. Everybody is saying everything is on the table. I'm ready to hear what's on the table.
Starting point is 01:54:27 I'm ready for that for somebody to say, all right, we're going to take that chance. And half of America is going to love that baseball's taken that half of chance. Half of America to this day is like, what are you doing? Stay in your homes. We can't conduct society regularly again until we get a vaccination, until we get rampant testing. And that's why, guys, I think it's probably moot that fans go because it's going to be still very hard to get people in the building once the all. clear comes in. 713-212-5-790.
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Starting point is 01:56:55 They'll have, I think they had Jeff Blum today or Matt Boller, one of the two. I think it's Bullard. They get all the great guests. They get it at the same time one day. Oh, yeah, we have Bull and Blum. Well, there you go. That's actually a better show than maybe that afternoon. A-Team show is. I don't listen to Bull and Bomb.
Starting point is 01:57:09 I mean, Blum is the best hour of the week. What's that? Yeah, they're lucky. They get all the new lunch. Yeah, you get dusty. You get stuck in the West. That's not our fault. So you should pass along the people.
Starting point is 01:57:23 You can have four for a week. We should do like a switcharound day. Yeah, you guys steal a bits of my show. You can't have a guest. You can't have a blown. Why not? I bet you five Texan and he'll come on. Yeah, you probably will.
Starting point is 01:57:34 People we miss hearing from. We do miss hearing from him. We have them on Fridays. Let's have them on Monday. I don't want to get all wex all bent. Yeah, you do. Let's do a Tuesday then. I'll book him then.
Starting point is 01:57:43 Every day will make him most mad. Yeah, that's good. I'll take responsibility. Book him at 2.30 on Fridays. No, no, that I'm not doing. Oh, goodness. 236 on Sports Talk 790. 713212-5-790.
Starting point is 01:58:00 7-13-212-5-790. And on Twitter, you can find this at SportsMT, at SportsRV and at Joe George Radio. A lot of people who are responding to our Sophia Fagara tweets. Go ahead. Uh, one is somebody just said, does it matter? It really doesn't. And some, can I even repeat this?
Starting point is 01:58:23 Let me make sure I get this right. I don't want to, oh boy. One is, one said, just look at the back of the legs. That's the reason why you've got to go look at the website. What does I mean? Well, you can probably tell a 47-year-old's legs and a 27-year-old's legs. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:58:43 It may be one of our better efforts. Might have to get a magnifying glass out. Excuse me? Look at you. Just staring. I think she's on the left. She's going to be on the show America's Got Talent. Okay.
Starting point is 01:58:58 I've watched that show. Is she a judge? Yeah. She's Colombian. What does she know about American talent? Here's one. Can't tell, don't care. Both are perfect.
Starting point is 01:59:05 Wayne could have said it better myself. Do you ever watch that show America's Got Talent? I've seen like, I'll watch a, like a video. Like there was that guy, Cody Lee, the autistic kid who sang. Who sang, who sang Donnie Hathaway's song for you. That was great. I'll just catch like highlights or sometimes. So we watched like three or four episodes of it.
Starting point is 01:59:26 They loved every one of them. Who's your kid? The judges. Oh. I don't know where you came from, but you're going to be a big star. Well, the problem is you have to kick some to the curb. And I'm sure they did. But I think we watched three weeks of it.
Starting point is 01:59:42 And everybody was, you're the best ever. It's like going to a restaurant. and saying, this is the best food I've ever had in my life. It's like Guy Fieri on all his, have you ever seen him take a bite into something and he'd not like it? Oh, that's the Donners drive-in and dive thing. Anybody on it or man versus food. Have you ever seen man versus food?
Starting point is 02:00:03 I think he quit now because the cholesterol is getting too high or something. Seriously? Yeah, he quit. I don't know if it was because of cholesterol. Have you ever seen an episode of that and they bite into something and they're like, and they spit it out and say, this is crap? He just bite into it. They look at the camera and they go,
Starting point is 02:00:16 oh my god it's amazing it's always good isn't it always the best thing they've ever eaten yeah but if you're diners drive-ins and dumps or whatever they call it dive-ins and drives no yeah drive-drivens and drives dives diners drive-ins and dives there you go whatever they're not going to send him somewhere he's bouncing around the country in that convertible of his yeah they're not going to send him to a place it serves crap food that's true but I mean the the the man versus food guy loved al's Italian beef in Chicago so
Starting point is 02:00:46 So I went there and it was terrible. Sorry, Joe. Chicago does have good food, though. Yeah, but Al's Italian beef is totally overrated and it wasn't good. Okay. I was upset. I was mad at the man versus food guy while I was in Chicago. I wanted to send him an email.
Starting point is 02:01:04 He was acting like it was the best thing since sliced bread. And it wasn't he, it was okay. It was bland. It didn't have any flavor. Yeah, well, I think you're in the minority in that. If you go to Chicago, don't go to Al's Italian beef. There's a place of Chicago I want to go to. Maybe, and maybe Joe, you know this.
Starting point is 02:01:18 You know, I used to love the attack dog, the comedic dog. What's his name? McGruff, the crime dog? No. One that I'm wrapped with? Robert Schmeigel. Oh, what? From S&L?
Starting point is 02:01:33 No, the puppet. Oh, Triumph the Insulton. Now, that's a YouTube wormhole we can get into. Speaking of you were talking about that on the Monday meeting last night. So I get in a wormhole with him, and he's like, and he takes, he's going Conan all the time. He goes to this Chicago hot dog stand. The hot dog stand where they insult you. Have you been there?
Starting point is 02:01:54 Yeah, that's a good thing. Joe. Ed DeBevics is closed, I think. But yeah. What do you mean it's closed? Ed DeBevics? Yeah, they shut it down. Because people were too rude?
Starting point is 02:02:04 No, there was like two of them. One of them closed because they just didn't have business. Like they just were like they were just in a slow restaurant. But yeah. This was a hot dog stand where the people would be rude to you when you walk up and order the food. Oh, okay. Yeah, no, I've been to that one. But in Chicago, there was also a full restaurant like that.
Starting point is 02:02:22 We're like they threw straws at you and yeah. But I've been to the hot dog stand, yeah. It's called Chicago's Wiener Circle. That's right. That's the one. That's the one. Yeah, okay, I've been there. Where the comic God goes there and he insults them as bad.
Starting point is 02:02:35 And they just wanted to beat the crap out of him. It was a great one. That's an episode I want to watch. I don't need to see Guy Fieri with that glazing hair of his. Everything's great. Everything is the best ever. Oh, my God, this is the best chicken parm ever had in my life. Chicken parm on top of bacon and middle of a pancake.
Starting point is 02:02:55 You would have thought it would taste a terrible, but it's fantastic. I miss sports. Why were we talking about this again? I don't know. Oh, you're talking about America's Got Talent. I don't know how we got on that either. I don't either. Speaking of wormholes, well, Michael Connors would be like, yeah, I go on airplane wormholes.
Starting point is 02:03:19 I was like, look, I'm not here to judge a man on his YouTube wormholes. If he likes the airplane, Matt likes airplanes. I just, that's not what I was expecting. He just likes to watch him take off and land? Because he said he was scared to fly? Yeah, I think that maybe helped him with his anxiety. And then that's what you're going to laugh at, Joe? Yes.
Starting point is 02:03:37 Okay. Yes, it is. All right, quick question. Trivia question. What are the names of the Orville brothers? Don't look it up. I don't know. Okay.
Starting point is 02:03:46 Why is it a trick question? It's a trivia question. No, it's a trivia question. No, Orville. Trivia. Orville is one, yes. Orville, Orville, Orville? No.
Starting point is 02:03:53 Who are they? Orville and Wilbur. Okay. Anyways. I thought it was like a trick question. It's not. Yeah, we were talking about YouTube rabbit holes on our Monday night meeting. I have found, you know, I've always been a game show fan.
Starting point is 02:04:08 I have been intrigued by Richard Dawson, because he trended on Twitter last week for some reason. Okay. You know, he used to kiss all the girls. You know, you had the five contestants. Kiss them on the cheek? No. Kiss him on the mouth? Yes.
Starting point is 02:04:24 Tong? Not really, no A little grab of the back? Don't think so. Side hug for sure. Side hug? But you know, he... A little squeeze?
Starting point is 02:04:32 Think about it. He did that show for like, I don't know, 12 years. Yeah, you can't do that with coronavirus floating around. Richard Dawson would have to stop kissing women on the show. First of all you can't record because there's no live audience anymore. It's good. But the thing about the number of women he kissed in his day. 10 shows a week times 12 years.
Starting point is 02:04:52 Thousands and thousands and thousands. He wound up marrying one of the contestants. And she said, if we're going to stay married, you have stopped kissing the girls. So we did. And this concludes a segment. Okay. So here's what we did in the last 10 minutes. We went to diners drive.
Starting point is 02:05:10 How did we get on America's Got Talent? I don't know. You were saying, you were complaining about how they like everybody. Yeah. But were we saying that somebody liked everybody? I can't remember. We should really take notes of our own show. It didn't matter.
Starting point is 02:05:23 Go to break. We have diners drive-ins. We went to Family Feud. We went to Michael Conner's fixation on airplanes and Sophia Vergara still on the website. The Matt Thomas Show. In a nutshell. I miss sports. On ATX Hobo Girls asking, what would get Dawson first, the Rona or the Me Too movement?
Starting point is 02:05:47 See, he can't do it. Either way. No, because... Sorry, Richard Dawson, me rest of peace. He didn't force it. he would, I'm sure he would ask the women beforehand, do you mind if Richard kisses you? Is he alive or dead? Way dead.
Starting point is 02:06:01 Oh. Rip. Yeah, yeah, he had to have asked. You think so? Sure. You think he asked for consent? I would think so. I think you know if you're a woman going on family feud in the 1970s and 80s, you know that Richard's going to kiss you on the lips.
Starting point is 02:06:17 Okay. I don't believe there's any tongue at any point during the 10-year run. But it could be wrong. That's cut my hair before just in case. So dead Richard Dawson. kiss you? He wasn't kissing dudes. I guess he could. Actually, that'd be the one thing. Be an equal opportunity. Thinks to change in 2020.
Starting point is 02:06:34 Yeah, I passed on the show. 245 on Sports Talk 790. The morning sports show for those who partied in Midtown way too hard last night. The Matt Thomas show on Sports Talk 790. I knew you guys had our back. We were talking about America's God talent because of Sophia Vigar. Thanks to Jeff Harner. It's like, if you all. can keep notes of our show We're talking about Sophia Vergara
Starting point is 02:07:03 and then what's on Matt's Mine show page. Then you said she's going to be a judge on America's Got Talent. Yes. Then you said you watched it and they liked everything. Then I just talked about how they like everything. Like Guy Fieri likes everything. On diners, dumps and drives. Then I started talking about Al's Italian beef.
Starting point is 02:07:17 How overrated it was. Then you started talking about the Chicago Hot Dog Place. Chicago Hot Dog Place with Triumph the Inso Comic Dog. Yeah. And that's the show. That's the Matt Thomas show. right there, guys. I think we covered everything.
Starting point is 02:07:33 Can Sean Salsbury do that tomorrow morning, 6 o'clock? I don't know. He's getting some Chicago with deep dish right now in Arizona, and I'm very jealous. That sounds good. Very jealous. Thin crust all the way. Well, yeah, thin crust is the best pizza. By far, thin crust is the best. I like the Luma Nottis when I went up there.
Starting point is 02:07:50 Lulamaldi's is good, but it's also not the best pizza in Chicago. The best pizza in Chicago is thin crust pizza. I can't argue with that. The deep dish is the tourist pizza. Like, Giordano's is strictly for tourists, correct? Yeah, pretty much. The natives don't go to Giordano's, do they?
Starting point is 02:08:07 Yeah, I mean, not really. Like, a special occasion, maybe. But that also might be, like, when family comes the time, you go to Giordanos. It's like how we view, like, we were talking about, like, Space Center earlier. The only time I went to Space Center once by myself to just check it out, and then the only other time I've gone since was when my family has come down to visit. The only thing I love about Girardonels is right across the street. from our hotel.
Starting point is 02:08:30 The convenience. The fanciest hotel I have ever been in my life. A full printer in my hotel room. A printer in your room? You don't need that. Sure you do. If you're printing out game notes for a game.
Starting point is 02:08:42 What are you going to stay at Michigan Avenue? Not far. A block or two off. Okay. The Miracle Mile? I do like Chicago. Chicago's nice. We did a listener trip in the mid-90s
Starting point is 02:08:53 to Chicago to see the Astros and the Cubs play a couple of games. This is when Mike Hampton was still pitching at the time. We took about 100 people. And I want to say 50% of them were ridiculously drunk. Yeah. Our friend Joan went with us. Many listened to show. Really? I think her husband went. Should we have another listener event trip? I really want to go see the Texans of Bears play this year, but here's no fans. It's so because in 1995, you felt like you could take 100 people somewhere and everybody would figure out how to get to the stadium, how to get to their host.
Starting point is 02:09:29 hotel, how to make a flight. I feel like now so many strange things going on, it would be very hard to organize and make sure everybody got on the plane. What do you mean? Like, I just like if let's say... It seems easier. Yeah, but it's not a high school field trip. If they missed the plane, they miss the plane. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It would be easier. Are you sure? You can all Uber now?
Starting point is 02:09:45 Yeah, Uber and yeah, you could, we got a group chat or what, like a group email or anything like that? I guess you're right. It's way easy. Okay. But you should tell everyone that if you come on the trip, you have to have an iPhones. That way we don't have a bad group situation. You could just tell everybody to download WhatsApp.
Starting point is 02:10:03 WhatsApp. That's true. We can do WhatsApp. Yep. Because some people are going to want to leave the conversation and they want to have the ability to do that. You can do that. Like, when we go to Vegas, if we were gone, it looks like 20-22 now. They're opening up soon? No, I'm talking about my 30,000 Twitter part. Oh, you're still blaming us?
Starting point is 02:10:21 No, I'm just coming in the reality. If you eat a bowl of dog food, that's not going to get me any hit. Matt, I bet you if you ate a bowl of dog food and called a... We were talking, this is a callback to, like, the first, was this the first segment? What, what if we, what if we said 30,000 followers for a bowl of dog food? I'm not eating dog food. Like, I think you might be surprised how many people follow you just to see you eat the bowl.
Starting point is 02:10:51 That's true. And then they would unfollow me right back. No, not all of them. Not all of them. You retain, you have a high retention rate, I think. Well, they make it like 32. thousand, so that way if you lose two thousand as soon as you're done eating the dog food.
Starting point is 02:11:03 Why do you want me to have Alposo-Dandbag? I don't. I'm trying to help you, you know, get to 30. No, the easiest way to get to pile your Twitter count up is by followers, which members of the media in the market have done. What I'm not going to mention names.
Starting point is 02:11:23 Adam Wexler, but go ahead. No, Wex didn't do that. Somebody else has, but that's not me. I mean, Klan's got $30,000. You can just ask him how he got his. Oh, I know how he got his. got his, don't worry. You got a pot stir for a good solid seven years. That's just not me. I can't do that.
Starting point is 02:11:39 And I was stupid and saying, well, at 20, we had a really good time of the party. It was two years ago now. Yeah. So, but it was just, I said, hey, 30, let's go to Vegas. And I'm thinking, oh, my God, what did I do myself that for? So, I mean. Yeah, well, just call it off. All right.
Starting point is 02:11:53 You got time. I'm officially calling it off. What do you want to do it at the 27-5 party? It's not going to happen. It is. I'm not controversial enough. No, I'm not. Well, you got to believe, Matt.
Starting point is 02:12:04 It's not happening. How many does Wex have? 27. I was just checking. Okay. And he tweets way more information stuff. He's not controversial. No, he's not.
Starting point is 02:12:14 But people go to him for information. Yes. Wex is an information follow. What are you then? That's what I'm trying to figure out. Matt doesn't know his own brand. I'm brandless. Sell me on SportsMT.
Starting point is 02:12:26 I can. Good morning strippers. Sol. Yeah. funny anecdotes Yeah Woody Riparte Okay
Starting point is 02:12:33 And uh Connections to Sophia Vigara on the what's on Matt's Mind show page Do you retweet those? Should That might help We retweet this last one It's going well It is going well
Starting point is 02:12:46 All right well Look I'm not eating the apple No matter what you want me to do Your loss Maybe I'll get Nah I'm not doing I would bet you money by the end of the nightcaps
Starting point is 02:12:58 and I can get Ross to agree to it. Oh, please. No, for what? Well, I'll think something. Are you close to $10,000? I'm like 400 away. That's not worth it. Yeah, I'm not being Alpo.
Starting point is 02:13:08 You're going to go $15,000. If I'm getting Alpo, I'm going to need at least four figures worth of money. Nobody's eating dog food. Nobody wants to get you sick. Adam Client, Adam Wex are next. They are known as the A team. And they'll entertain you between three and six.
Starting point is 02:13:20 Right here on 790.

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