The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - Tired Of Texans, Battling Post Game Comments & O'Brien Criticism
Episode Date: October 5, 2020Tired Of Texans, Battling Post Game Comments & O'Brien Criticism...
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I'm a little, I'm a little.
And I'm not what I appear to be.
Of all the love, I have won, or have lost.
He's going to get a first down, end zone.
Are they going to give them credit for the touchdown?
It is a touchdown.
They're going to ruin the touchdown.
Cousins fires for the end zone is a five.
Another 100-yard game.
Madison into the end zone, touchdown fight.
That's a great call.
We have seen them attack the edges, right?
So you saw the eyeballs go to the jet suite motion and wide.
That defense just enough to crease it with the second career touchdown for Madison.
Any excuse to get a Beatles song in, I will do it.
I know you get 40% of my audience hates it, and that's fine.
But 100% should hate Bill O'Brien because he's a loser.
You hear me, Ross?
A loser.
They lose.
They lose.
When you lose, you're a loser.
Lose, lose, lose, and I'll call the plays for the game.
And then I'll make up some cockamamie excuse about how, well, we didn't change much except
the way they were communicated.
No, you communicated it.
That is the change.
You said Tim Kelly, take the day off.
We don't need you.
I'm sick of a lot of things, sports RV.
I'm sick of Deshawn Watson not playing four straight quarters of great football.
I'm sick of the guitar on sacks, on touchdowns.
I'm sick of Bill O'Brien.
I'm sick of everything about that organization.
I'm sick of Texan whatever.
Blank the text.
I just,
yuck.
And the thing that really pisses me off is that we have a baseball team
that's about to play their division series game.
Again, granted, the season has been a hot mess.
But they're playing.
And man,
I listen to this radio station all damn day long.
Little glimpses here and there.
Look, we got to play the hits here on the show.
We're a football town through and through.
Granted, 2017, it was awesome.
The Astros won the World Series.
But we are still a football town.
And we're a football town that likes a loser,
except in the sports bar I was at yesterday.
So I took my daughter to her.
She has volleyball at three o'clock on Sundays.
Again, clearly my volleyball, the coach of our volleyball team does not like football,
because why would you ever schedule a three o'clock practice on a Sunday?
You never would.
No.
So I have to get in the car to drive the half hour to where we go.
I know.
Listen to broadcast.
Me, Mark, and I'll do a nice job.
So I'm watching.
Know what's going on.
Drop her off.
There's a sports bar right next to where she practices volleyball.
And I walk in thinking there's not going to be a table to be found, even with, you know,
especially when you're talking about 75% capacity.
I go in there, I find it where the Texans are on,
the Texans are on the volume in the bar.
But all I found were Dallas Cowboy fans.
When you don't have the Dallas Cowboys on the local Fox affiliate
because the Texans are on Fox,
those poor Dallas Cowboy fans were screwed.
Granted, their team sucked into the last quarter of the game yesterday.
But every time the Texans, when Vikings did something,
it was a murmur.
When the Cowboys did something, the place erupted.
Now, I don't know if that's no more of the case
because if the Cowboys are playing at the same time
or a different time than he can watch him,
then maybe it's not that big of it.
Yeah, maybe most Texans fan, Matt,
they got there put their face paint on
and their spiky shoulder pads and they stayed at home.
Or were one of the 12,000 allegedly at NRG Stadium yesterday.
There was no way there were 12,000 people there, right?
Can we get the report from Joe George at some point?
He was there.
Let's call him.
He said there was a fire O'Brien chand at the,
fire billed by the end of the night.
There should be.
He's incompetent.
He just is.
He doesn't.
Ross, you called him an average football coach yesterday or last week,
and I felt bad because I called him a way below average football coach.
And I thought to myself, you know what?
Sometimes sports RV can balance things out.
We take opinions from each other and go,
hey, there's a little bit of cretons of what you're saying.
Yes.
Bill O'Brien is a what coach today?
Average.
Still average.
Yes.
If Bill Wilfiller makes that.
catch they're maybe headed to overtime. Maybe. Maybe. He's in, look, obviously this is not
looking good. As far as a general manager, we both agree that he's been bad as a general manager.
Not bad. No, no, no, no. I will not agree with you bad. Horrific. Awful. This is the thing.
And he lies. You know, Matt, of course, one of your favorite movies, Office space,
where they say, what was when they're interviewing the two with the two bobs and they're interviewing that
and they're like, what would you say you do here? Well, Bill O'Brien, the entire time he's been
here, he is an offensive coordinator, he's an offensive mind, that's why he was hired, he was a head
coach at Penn State. The offensive has been, have been completely mediocre to worse since he's
been here. The team is not stocked with talent. You're not putting Deshaun Watson in the best
places to succeed, and they're losing games, and now you're 0 and 4 against the Minnesota Vikings,
who are just, I mean, look at their defense in the way they played. By the way, gave you that
opportunity in the last drive. Where was
Dalvin Cook on first and second down?
Yeah. What was that crazy
ass throw under the corner on third
and five where not only
do you not complete the pass, Kirk
Cousins isn't that great of a thrower?
And Rossi, they stopped the clock,
giving the Texans a ninth life.
Yeah, so if you're not being a good leader, if you're
not running a good offense, if you're not building a good
roster, what would you say you do here?
What is the best building, seriously?
What's the best thing Bill O'Brien does?
What's his best attribute?
just mean and angry and yell at people?
I'm trying to figure it out.
What does he do here?
Well, here's what he does.
Every time he doesn't like something, he inherits the spot.
Yes.
He absorbs them.
It's like that movie The Blob.
He is officially what not a good leader is.
Great leaders give room.
I mean, say what you all about Bill Belichick and how he controls it.
It's Josh McDaniels office.
right? When Matt, Patricia, all those guys were defensive, according Romeo,
Crone, it was their defense. He gave them the space to do what they're supposed to do.
And if Bill O'Brien wants to be Bill Belichick, the only thing they're, they're nothing
alike. Belichick wins. He outsmarts people. He out-coaching. Hell, Kirk Cousins ran a
bootleg yesterday. He's slow as molasses. I'll give you another thing. Yeah, absolutely.
Deshaun Watson has fewer called runs than Kirk Cousins. And, and, and, and, I'm
I'll give you another thing that Bill Belichick does that Bill O'Brien does not.
Bill Belichick is going to – it's a week-to-week offense.
It's a – this week – oh, no, we're going up against one of the best run defenses in the world.
We're going to throw it 50 times.
Then the next week, oh, we're going up against one of the best past defenses,
and they have a soft interior line.
You know what we're going to do?
We're going to run it 50 times.
He changes his game plan week to week.
Bill O'Brien, every single week, we're going to establish the run.
We're going to establish the run.
That was cool in, like, 1995.
it's a passing league now
and you have Deshawn Watson
one of the most dynamic passers in the NFL
so you can't go we're gonna
you can't go toeheaded this is what
we do and we're going to make the other guys react to it
in the NFL week to week you cannot
do that you have to adapt
you have to be multiple you have to have a bunch
of bags tricks in your bag
you have to have all these types of things
you have to be varied and you have to be
unpredictable and you have to put four quarters
together and I'm talking about the players the offense
is not unpredictable
right now. No. When's the last time? I think it's happened maybe once in the last couple of years
where you say, wow, Bill O'Brien really pulled that. It was like a maybe like a Kiki Kootie
sweep or something like that. Jet sweep, reverse, like three years ago. And again, I'm not
trying to be mad in 2020 here. I mean, I'm just talking about do some things of diversity that other
teams seem to do quite well. Okay. We have an Astros playoff game today too. Yes.
So don't think if you are astrophane, you're going to be neglected because this show is going
to get into that a little bit. I don't
particularly love their chances.
Hey. I didn't love their chances
in round one and they proved me wrong. Well, I said Astros
and two, so I was very happy about that.
So we will get to a little bit of that.
We've got
what you're talking about Bill O'Brien at 1 o'clock?
Now, I had Brendan, do
did you find four good ones?
I got to tell you. This is the most
disappointing press conference he's had in season, but I do
have, I have four.
And then I have the fifth that you wanted.
I want our listeners to play
one, too. So you were pulling teeth to get these five, huh? Is what you're trying to tell us?
You'll notice they're all a lot shorter. He didn't have as much to say as well. You know why?
Because he's a bad football coach and a bad general manager and not a great human being.
Argue with me on any of you. And by the way, we can go to the next segment. Yeah. Peter King is bit stealing me.
Uh-oh. What did Peter King say? He's information stealing me.
Oh, Peter King, I unfollowed him because he was tweeting way too much politics.
Would you like to know what Peter King said about the Texans and Bill O'Brien?
Not really.
Speaking of bad people.
Too bad because what he said, Rossi, it was my gut feeling boys before I ever had a gut feeling.
We had a gut feeling segment.
That's how long this gut feeling has been in my belly.
I had a gut feeling come through from early season as well.
I'll let you brag on and we get back.
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Good.
Get mad, JJ.
Because if you don't get mad, no.
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We're going to mix in the Texan suckiness yesterday to really a wretched day for the Big 12 conference.
I mean, OTCU won.
But my God, Oklahoma loses again.
Sorry about your longhorns.
That's what it is.
They didn't deserve to win.
They didn't deserve to win the week before.
By the way, have you copyrighted the Red River Letdown?
No, I have not.
Do I need to?
Please do it.
Well, I'll buy you a shirt.
I'll buy some shirts with it.
I'll buy with it.
No, I don't want to.
No, Matt.
I don't want to do that.
It's a great game.
It's one of the most storied rivalry games in the history of college football.
It is.
Pass is.
It was.
Cougars finally playing.
Thursday gets too late.
We'll have Dana Holgers in the show tomorrow.
A&M?
Mm.
Mm.
Ross.
What happened to them?
They got crushed.
Oh, well, they're just not on Alabama's level.
I know the SEC's been good for money.
I mean, clearly.
Yeah.
But if you were just a casual A&M fan and you just didn't drink everything,
I mean, would you be generally speaking happy with where your program is football-wise?
They probably would have won, like, a couple of things.
of Big 12 championships in the last decade.
And I mean, I'm not trying to downgrade the Big 12, but the Big 12 was, I mean, it's been
Oklahoma and everybody else is kind of finished second, right?
Yes.
So why couldn't A&M finish second of the Big 12?
Instead, they're going to finish in a normal fourth place spot in the SEC West and put
a banner up of some sort.
Maybe, yeah, put some more conference championships up on the side of the co-titles,
if you will.
Yeah, maybe some kind of computer retroactively gave them a title in 1898 or something.
You know how I feel about it.
Tom Herman. I love him. I wish he was at our school. Oh, sure. I don't love him.
But there's the fire Tom Herman was out there, the website, re-rified up over the weekend.
They flipped the servers back on. Yeah. It's not on copy server anymore. Put it that way.
Let me see, fire. All right, we'll get to more of that. Here is another reason why, if you're a Texans fan, you should be coming soon. Oh, okay. I just happen to see the, you know, let me see what's show up to me.
Oh, that it's not set up. Then everybody was talking about being all fired up and ready to go.
without working on it.
Ross, we have two of the most important players in the Texans franchise with, I think, two different outlooks on things.
Okay.
Please explain the audience.
Yes.
Well, first of all, let's start with JJ Watt and what he's talking about the Texans and their lack of turnovers.
Then we'll get to them both of their thoughts being 0 and 4.
Jay, I'm representing it to go four games in a row without forcing a turnover.
Extremely.
Can you elaborate?
It is very, very frustrating.
You have any suggestions about it?
I mean, you guys, you know you're trying to do everything you can.
If I had them, I would do it.
I'm not saying that your question's a bad one.
I'm just saying if I knew the answer, I would implement that answer.
I feel like he just wants to explode and just wants to lose his blank and just say,
F it. I'm probably out of here
anyway in a year or two.
I've been around
this. I'm never going to go to the Super Bowl
because Matt Thomas on noon to 3 and 7 and he's
been telling me as long as Bill O'Brien's a
head coach, they're never going to go to the Super Bowl.
He knows it. He listens.
JJ, what up? Maybe they'll turn it around, Matt,
and go 12 and 4 and then prove
everyone. God, that 9 and 7
Mark makes me look at an idiot right now.
But as of right now, they're 0 and 4.
JJ, your thoughts on that?
I mean, this is terrible. It's brutal.
it's depressing.
I mean, it's just, it sucks.
It sucks.
I don't know any other way to put it.
But like I said, I don't know any other way than to work harder.
I know that working less is not the answer.
So I'm going to work even harder.
Okay.
You can clearly, right?
You can clearly tell.
He will pose for the camera and he'll say some things that will make him very, you know, attention-seeking and Mr.
politically correct.
It's getting less and less with JJ
Because he knows he's running out of time
Well, and their own four
He knows that they're like two and two
He wouldn't be talking about this
Well, he knows his defense sucks
He knows that his
Offensive most viable player
Not named Deshawn is now wearing Arizona gear
He knows that Laramie Tunsel took him
For two first round picks
And a giant deal
He knows that David Johnson is
I mean
Would you
Replacement level
No, you know the metrics better than that.
Well, under.
Under below replacement level.
Yeah, all right.
So here's to Sean, and this is where I go, man, what is it?
Sean, when are you going to start showing that you're pissed off?
The end of day, it is what it is.
I mean, we're over and four.
Just got to keep fighting, keep pushing forward, you know?
That's it.
But for me personally, I'm not going to let it take my joy.
I'm going to continue to live life, continue to work my ass off.
continue to come in here every day and play football.
So, yeah, I mean, that's, it is what it is.
But at the end of the day, my joy, my spirit, my smell, my energy,
the love of the game is still going to continue to be there.
So that's, that's how it's it.
Any thoughts?
I've heard it 10 times.
I mean, I wonder, we see, we see, it's a different approach, right, from
Deshawn Watson, and then JJ Watts.
J.J. Watts, a little bit of fire and brimstone.
he's obviously upset, he's mad.
Deshawn Watson, it is what it is.
That's what's interesting to me.
And I'm not trying to say that Deshaun Watson doesn't care.
It's just...
No am I.
But let me say this.
This is what it sounds like, and this is...
The little I'm running the plays that are called.
It sounds like I'm out there doing what I'm supposed to be doing.
Yeah.
And by the way, I'm really, really rich now.
Yes.
And I'm not surprised by what we're doing.
I'm not surprised that we are who we are.
I'm not surprised that I haven't been able to establish long-term receiver relationships with really.
Will Fuller, I mean, great game yesterday.
Tough catch.
I'm not saying it had to be made.
It would have been awesome if he would have.
But there have been 100 receivers that would have dropped that pass too.
Maybe not DeAndre Hopkins, but everybody else probably would have dropped the pass.
Yeah.
DeAndre Hopkins would have just pawned it and walked off to the sideline.
Yeah.
He'd have probably tapped it to himself, flipped it like a,
And then doves would have came out of nowhere.
Yeah.
Just materialized.
Said, got it.
It doesn't.
He's not throwing 375, 4 touchdowns, not making any mistakes.
That's what that sounds like is that we, I've done everything I can.
And he's not put together four great consecutive quarters.
He just hadn't.
If he thinks he's done everything, he can, he's wrong.
There are multiple times where he is making inaccurate passes.
He's making bad.
Even that throw to Will Fuller, it was a little bit hot.
He could have made a better.
throw on that one. There are a number of times where he
was just not looking good.
And we can blame
all the play calls that we want.
It's either that or it's Deshawn Watson
and he's not playing well.
And this is the thing also though.
If Deshawn Watson is not playing well and he's
not where you want, it's either A
he's not getting coached well or B,
maybe he's not the talent we thought we were so you shouldn't shine him to a long term
extension and either of those
would fall on Bill O'Brien.
Is that fair to say? Yeah.
I think Baker Mainfield, I watch a lot of that fourth quarter of that game.
Baker Mayfield's better today than he was two or three years ago.
Well, he was not good in the first half of that game.
But, no, he was actually spectacular in the whole game.
He was just the fourth quarter, the defense gave up.
Kyle Allen, is it Kyle Allen's in one in Buffalo?
Josh Allen's always mixed up.
Josh Allen has looked really good in the first four weeks of the season.
Josh Allen is 300 times better than he was a year ago.
Is that coaching?
Or is that because Josh Allen's taking the next level?
Probably a little bit of both.
How much better today is Deshaun Watson than he was 18 months ago?
He's about the same.
About the same.
All right, real quick.
And then we're going to the phones in the next time.
I swear to God, I'm not kidding you.
Ross, I get a lot of things wrong.
And how?
Just because it's just the nature of the beast.
When you do a sports talk show, you say things, it's easier.
It's easier to be bombastic and scream out possibilities and things you may hear or want to believe
and they want to being wrong.
And if you're a national, like ESPN, you can just forget you have.
ever said it. But locally, sometimes people hold your feet of the fire. Did you read Peter King's
Monday morning, whatever the hell he calls it? And the answer is no, because I don't do that. But there
was something that was pointed out to me, they're like, Matt, you should go read this. And I said,
well, why don't I want to go spend my time hearing about this sanctimonious football writer and his air
travels? Real quickly, here it goes. Pretty early to play what if, but if the Texans go
Owen 4, which they have, with Green Bay, New England, Indianapolis twice, and Tennessee twice
to play, and finished 5'11, is Bill O'Brien in trouble.
That would place Houston somewhere near six in the 2020-first draft, maybe the six and
overall 38th pick going in the first two rounds to Miami.
Not good for O'Brien, the GM.
Now give O'Brien credit in four of his six seasons as head coach, the Texans, the
Tegns won the EFC South, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Here's the third paragraph for this story that he's written about the Texans.
owner Cal McNair has been more hands-off than his father, franchise founder Bob.
That's in itself startling.
But Cal McNair could have the decision to make after this season.
Two, actually.
O'Brien brought in smart and authoritative Jack Easterby to run the front office in April of 2019.
If O'Brien goes, could Easterby his handpicked front office chief stay in a revamped organization?
I wouldn't bet against it.
Who is your friend?
that has been telling you for a better part of three months
that the Easterby O'Brien combination could absolutely 100% be split.
Hold on. You're claiming victory over conjecture by Peter King in the column?
No, no, no.
I'm saying that I'm not the only one saying it.
And Peter King's been listening to this show because I was said it way before he said it.
I don't think Peter King likes what's going on in this station.
We don't either.
He's cursed out producers around here.
Yeah, we don't like him either.
But point being is this.
when this happens
and O'Brien does get fired eventually,
which he should,
Easterby's staying.
I have now bumped up my Noster Thomas selection on that one to,
I don't know,
4,000 stars.
And if I'm wrong, I'll do what ESPN does
and just forget I haven't said it.
Is Jack Easterby like,
is he some sort of spiritual guru for Cal McNair?
And then that's the only reason he would keep him.
My feeling is, and I have no inside information on this,
My feeling is that Jack can sell Snowdon Eskimo.
It seems like it.
Because what else does he do?
He's got no football background.
Zero.
Let me, he's going to say, look, I know Bob's Bill's been a little overmatch.
Give me either the complete title of general manager or, you know what?
If you don't like Bill, trust me, I'm walking out to the NFL circles.
I'll bring in the right character coach to run this football team.
Because that's what he does.
He's a character guy.
That means he knows football.
but I swear if Bill O'Brien's let go,
the nicest kid and the nicest human being
will be the next Texans head football coach.
Will it be qualified?
Don't know.
Hopefully, he will be Eric Bianamy.
Hopefully, you know what?
I'd write a blank check to Davos Sweeney.
Done.
Go on.
Do your thing.
I like Greg Roman.
Greg Roman.
Same day.
I don't care.
Give me anybody by Bill O'Brien.
Yes.
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We'll mix in some Astros throughout the course of the show.
A lot of Texans because y'all are mad, should be.
And now we're going to go to an eyewitness report.
Will and Sugarland, you went to the game yesterday.
First and foremost, Energy Stadium seats, what, 72,000 seats?
They announced 12,000 as a crowd.
Were there 12,000 people inside NRG Stadium yesterday?
No, no, probably about the size of a high school football game, maybe about $6,000 at the moment.
Okay, so tell me about experience before we get to the game.
So tell me what it was like parking, eating, drinking, bathroom, all that kind of stuff.
All right, so we pulled up to the first of all, we didn't have a pass, so we had to go to the cash lot.
The cash lot, got in there.
We met some people who are biking slash each contestant fans, and we were having a couple beers with them.
No tailgating, by the way.
No groves, but if you were sitting on your actual tailgate, or in your vehicle, you could actually drink.
So that's one thing.
I thought it was weird.
Then you go into the stadium.
There's no temperature drinking.
There's no nothing.
They scan your tickets.
Beards are cheap.
Beards are $2.50 letting you and enter outside.
It's $9 on the inside.
So you want to step up on your beers on the outside.
You only carry two, but then you go up to your feet.
Great social distancing.
I mean, it was the, our seats were, they sell them in pairs of twos and fours,
and then whatever seats are not roped off, or they are roped off, there's people on the other side.
But I had maybe, I was in Section 323 looking over the end zone, second lower bowl, and it was, it was nice.
Bathrooms.
Fair in mind, they have, they have the face covering police surround.
of course, you know, so you've got to have your face cover on, but as long as you're drinking,
I mean, or pretend like you're drinking, you don't have to have your face cover on.
There was still a lot of interaction between, you know, different fans in the stands.
Full concession stands were in and out, full bars.
They had it set up like exactly for a full-sized thing.
The only thing was people enforcing the mask, which there was ways around that, but it was still,
a good time.
Could you clearly hear the
Fire Bill O'Brien chance as you
leaving the stadium?
Well, I actually, I'm one of the
people who's like, oh, Minnesota has it in hand,
so about 10 minutes,
you know, I
hey, hey, I
wanted to beat the traffic.
Oh, come on.
You know, Minnesota doesn't want a game. Why would
you do that?
Because I have confidence in the purple and gold.
Okay. Well, you
almost lost. If Fuller holds on
on that football, you'd had zero confidence in them.
Yeah, if they would have stopped playing
prevent defense, like they had a two-score lead,
it would have been a little better.
Yeah. All right, well.
Well, bro, the experience was awesome.
I will not go back again just because it was a Minnesota.
So why I went, and me and my wife had a great time.
So it was worth it.
All right. Well, I'm glad you went.
And again, it looked like to me,
they didn't really show a whole lot of camera shots
to the stadium. I mean, and most
NFL games I've watched on television since they've
allowed fans and they don't do much of that at all.
But it didn't look like to me there were
12,000 people there.
It looked pretty sparse, Matthew.
And again, it's hard because it's a 72,000 seat
stadium. Yeah,
it's hard to judge. It's hard to judge, but
I know George has already said
there was no way there was 12. The guy
Will just called and said there was no way there was 12.
He said 6,000.
How much of a loss is that putting 6,000
people? I mean, the staffing of that, because
they were going to staff it like it was a full stadium.
Yeah, I guess you got to keep those people paid.
And then he said the mask police was all over everybody.
I'm okay with that.
Yeah, me too.
Let me tell you something.
It had been a great weekend for those people that are like masks don't make a difference.
The president, like everybody in Washington, D.C. has got COVID now.
So, you know, put the mask on.
Yeah, I hate it.
I hate masks.
Let me be very, very clear.
I despise them.
I'm okay with.
I'm used to it.
Yeah, I can't.
It's a part of my everyday wear now.
But I'm just, that doesn't mean I have to enjoy it.
Thank you, Will, for the phone call.
The Reverend KJ, 1240 on 790.
Hi, Rev.
Fellas, fellas, what's going on, Matt and Ross.
Yes, what's going on?
Hey, I'm so discombobulated right now, bro.
I'm forgetting everybody's name.
I just appreciate you saying the word discombobulated.
Hey, I can say big words that's mind there.
Hey, this is Bill O'Brien's coaching style in the nutshell.
I'm watching the game, doesn't know.
And I mind you, I told you.
both of you. I told you guys on this show,
and I've mentioned it to you, Ross, on your show.
I gave up on the Texas last year,
but they let an unknown rookie put up 30 plus points
on them in the game last season.
So I am of the root against the Texas
band club, fan club right now,
to the Bill O'Brien is gone. But that said,
I occasionally catch myself drifting toward Texans'
fandom. But it doesn't take long
for Bill O'Brien to remind me,
Why I root against them.
They're down 15 points yesterday.
For a quarter.
Just under six, a couple of ticks under seven minutes left in the game.
In the game.
So you have maximum two possessions left, maybe two,
depending on our expeditions when you get to a lot of scrimmage.
They come out of the huddle walking, for one, no hurry up, no sense of urgency.
and they hand the ball off to the running back who has been ineffective this entire game.
No disrespect to David Johnson because he's only doing what his body is physically allowing him to do.
He is the same broker of running back that Arizona was gladly willing to give up for DeAndre Hawkins.
It's not David Johnson's fault.
I mean, he took the contract it was given to him.
He accepted it.
And he's just not the same player than it was four years ago.
everybody knew that except the man that traded for him.
Everybody.
And what's, what's, what, what, what gets me the most with Bill O'Brien is there, there is,
typically when you have a coach with this, this amount of tenureship,
but the thing that Bill O'Brien has made, the hang has had on all these, the seven years
that he's been the head coach.
And I told a buddy of mine, this, uh, at the start of this season, I said,
well, man, as long as we keep winning the division, we're good, we got action.
The reason why I don't mind it to the division
philosophy is for one, the division was watered down.
Number two, once we get to the playoffs and play an actual good team,
Bill O'Brien finds a way to embarrass us on national television,
which is what he's typically done.
Now you can't make that excuse them more this year.
Indianapolis, 3 and 1 with the number one defensive football.
Go figure.
Tennessee, undefeated or 3-1, 4-0 or 3-1,
even Jacksonville,
with Gardner freaking Minshu at quarterback has a better record than us.
And I'm not going to be surprised if they beat us next year.
I'm telling any and every Texan fan that can hear my voice right now,
save yourself for frustration, save yourself for hair loss, save yourself for ulcer,
and not only not root for the Texans,
do anything and everything humanly possible to get this dude out of town.
You've run up the Andre Hopkins.
You've traded off our draft pick.
God forbid if we have a roast record in the league and get the number one pick,
then it's going to suck even more because we've got to watch Miami take our draft pick
for a guy who's placed on an offensive line that is very inept.
The line can't run block, the line can't pass block.
We have no defenses.
Adam Thieland caught a pass yesterday on one side of the field
and ran completely to the other side of the field before anybody even came into view.
Yeah, sloppy tackling.
Dalvin Cook was just pushing linebackers aside.
I meant like they weighed nothing.
O and four.
Catch it.
Feel the fever.
1244.
Now I'm depressed.
Can we play Go-Go Astros at some point?
Yes.
Let's do it come out of the break.
I think we should, Matthew.
We got Texans calls.
We've got to get Go-Go-Go Astros going just to feel better.
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on Sports Talk 790
We need this Ross
We have hot garbage on the
side of the professional sports scene
Just play it
Lance McCullors
Jr starts game number one
How about how coy Dusty Baker
has been about Zach Grinkey's
roll or lack there of at this point.
Fromber's going to start
tomorrow in game two of the series
and TBA
on game three.
Hmm.
You know why? Because
Zach's not been good.
Hmm.
I really gave up one run in his first playoff start
in four great
innings.
It threw like 30 pitches in the first inning.
Well, I think he threw like 79
pitches or something like that.
in four innings, not ideal.
So the question is going to be,
does Dusty's philosophy change about who starts game three,
which would either be Orkidi or Zach,
based on how the first two games have gone?
Should it?
And what would you do if the scenario was 1-1 or 02 or 2-0?
I'd rather recrity no matter what.
What would you be saving him for?
I mean, unless you're saying,
is the thought that maybe McCullors can only go four innings
and then you throw in Arkiti or something like that?
No, I think they're saving Arkiti for a start.
I would think so.
I think Christian Hobby.
The first long guy is Christian Javier.
I feel very confident in that.
The question is, if you're going to lay,
you get three scenarios.
You're in a 1-1 series where game 3 doesn't,
I mean, it's important, but it's not the end-all.
Is there one philosophy he goes with?
If you want the hammer to finish them off in three,
who do you go with?
Who's the hammer pitcher?
Hammer!
Or you're the O2, who's going to keep this?
series a live picture.
Is Zach Ranky any or all of those three?
Is Jose Or Kitty any of any of all of those three?
I think you're your best guy should be the guy in no matter what the scenario is.
Up O2, I mean, in an O2 hole, you want your best guy.
Up 2 O'O, you want your best guy to finish it off.
Tide 1-1.
It's a, I'm sure that'll be everybody saying it's a must-win game.
Ooh, the air quotes, too.
I like it.
I like the air quotes.
Yeah, you know how much I like air quotes.
So, I mean, and right now, Jose Air-Kitty's been a better starting pitcher for
than Zach.
Grinky. This is terrible to say.
Jose or Kitty should start in all three of those scenarios.
I agree.
I don't know if they believe, if that's what they believe, I'm just telling you our opinion.
And that you're 36, is how much does you make $36 million?
$35.
It's pro-rated.
He's not making that this year.
But even so, he's very handsomely paid.
Yeah, he's going to be okay.
And you don't trust him to pitch any of the first three games of your division series.
And he doesn't want to pay an extra $1.50 for Guacamole.
So you know Zach Grinky has his money saved.
Why?
Is he anti-Guacamole?
There was a whole rant that he had about how Chipotle had jacked up the price of guacamole.
And he's like, well, come on, man.
As someone who never buys guacamole, I know that every time they've charged more from guacamole.
No, I'm saying they, I think they jacked it up.
Oh, it's even more than it was.
There was a whole guacamole rant was that cranky.
So, you know, he saves his money.
He talked that long about guacamole?
Yeah, he had a whole quote about it.
Here we go.
I like the guacamole.
I don't really love the guacamole.
So I get it when I feel like it.
They change your guacamole from $1.50 to $1.80.
$1.50 is already pretty darn high.
So they change it to $1.80, and I'll never again get guacamole.
See, he made a, he drew a line in the sand at $1.50.
And they made it $180. He's out.
So that's how I know Zach Rinkie's got his money saved.
Pro-rated $35 million.
Don't forget that.
Let's go to AY and A-Laf on $7.90.
A-Y is always a man of full optimism when it comes to the Texans.
Hi, A.Y.
Entie. Good afternoon. How are you doing?
Well.
It's like, I told you last week.
I know.
It will be one and four.
I know I told you, because as long as Billy O is there,
he is taking this franchise backwards.
And he started when he traded DeAndre Hopkins on the 16th of March 2020.
And I will continue to say, I don't know what he has on the ownership.
By now, he shows that I don't made a press conference today.
I just know.
I wonder.
because you took away
DeAndre
you took away
the show's best option
and he wanted to still be performing.
EY, Ewa, I got to stop you.
Ewa, you brought this up last week.
I brought this, so we've been bringing this up for five months.
Nothing's changed.
Why?
We can't keep bringing up the same stuff over and over and over again.
This team is doomed.
It was doomed the day that DeAndre traded.
It was doomed the day that Hie Hall McNair
gave him the opportunity to be the general manager.
There's nothing fresh.
and intriguing. They're just finding new ways to lose. Well, actually, or not, they're trying
to find the same ways to lose. By not putting together four quarters of football, by taking the
play-calling abilities from your offensive coordinator way. Ay, Y, we're just repeating ourselves,
Ayie. So we're doing it. I'm sorry. I'm close Tristan. I'm sorry. I know. I get it. That's how
I'm here for you, A. Y. But next week, when they lose, if they do, you must come with brand new material.
Okay, I will try. I will. I will. Thank you. That's why I love you. You know that. Thank you.
friend. Right, Ross?
They're not going to lose Jacksonville, are they?
No, they're not.
Is this a must-win game this week?
So Texan Karen and, you know,
Darling the Texan and Battle Rudd-Dorke,
they'll all be able to go to their tweets and say-
Nobody goes by the name Battle Red Dork, Matt.
We are Texan.
We are Texans.
I mean, y'all deserve this.
If you are die-hard, you deserve this.
because you've allowed this to continue on.
The people that call the show,
the people that don't go to the bar to watch the games
like I was there yesterday,
the people that didn't go to NRG, they're done with it.
Are they not?
I think so.
I think this is the lowest point that I've seen
in the Bill O'Brien regime.
Except Battle Red Dork.
He loves it.
Battle Red, no, I think even Battle Red Dork is not happy, right?
There's no way.
Texan Melanie is still behind her team.
She hashtags.
We are Texans.
Texan Muhammad is not still going
a full bore on Bill O'Brien regime.
There's no way, Matt.
Texan Greg is like,
I'm there in good times and in bad,
and look at my big chain.
That's it.
They're down to 5,000.
There's no way.
There's no way there's people still all in.
You're right.
There's 5,000 people that are all in.
No, they're not.
I don't believe it.
There's more.
How could you be all in on 0 and 4
and losing to the Vikings?
Because I love them,
regardless of who they are,
because I've been with them
in the good times. I remember they were in
in 2004 in 2008 and they finished the year in 8 and 8
and they almost could have won the game and go to 9-7.
I've been, I say these people.
Y'all retweet those dorks.
Stop retweeting me super
naive fans.
I want regular fans' tweets.
Don't retweet or don't agree with or don't argue with
you know, blank the Texan.
He or she has no firm realization.
He or she loves Bill O'Brien.
He or she trusts Greg.
Jack Easterby. He or she doesn't mind that he Hall-McNair doesn't make any moves.
That's it.
But those 5,000 people infiltrate my Twitter line and it drives me crazy.
I don't know how.
Yeah, I had one of those guys yesterday saying 790 doesn't ever criticize the Rockets, but they go after the Texans.
That's exactly right.
That's not true.
I would go over the Rockets too.
You must have never listened to any of my postgame shows if they don't criticize the Rockets.
I work for the team and I criticize the Rockets.
Do I, but do I have more passion for the Rockets than I do with the Texans?
Yeah.
I would say so, yeah.
Absolutely.
Well, I'm convinced the Rockets try to win championships.
I'm not convinced the Texans try to.
Do they fall short?
Yes.
Trust me.
Whoever that person was, battle red dork.
Mick Martinez.
Okay, I don't value his opinion.
But Mick Martinez, if you're listening, which you probably aren't.
Let me tell you something.
You are going to hear a different tone to this person right now that you're hearing
their voice when they get rid of Bill O'Brien.
You will absolutely hear it.
I swear.
What if they do that and keep Jack Easterby?
Then I won't change.
Nor should you.
No.
Or should the fans?
No.
I'm telling you, Easterby's sticking around, Rossi.
He's, he doesn't need to rent.
He's buying.
Wherever that is.
Ignar's pool house?
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This is the Matt Thomas show.
We got a lot of folks that want to talk about the Texans.
We've got Astros baseball in an hour, so we've got things to do.
But it is a time-honored tradition here, the Matt Thomas show for a Monday,
to take the Bill O'Brien quotes from today's press Zoom availability,
and not just play them and go,
OK, we believe what you say, Bill of Brian.
We like to make them interesting, Ross.
Do we not?
Of course.
So what we do is we put Brendan into the challenge.
We ask him to find four interesting things that Bill O'Brien try to say today.
Thus, we get to play this game.
Coach O'Brien.
All right, what's up first, Brendan?
All right, number one, O'Brien on fixing the running game, 32 seconds.
Good meeting one, open things up.
32 seconds, fixing the running game.
Look, there are a lot of things that we got to do better.
and it's a team effort.
It's not any one thing
when it comes to the running game.
We have to block better.
David's got to run better.
I got to call better plays.
We got a scheme better.
So it's a collective effort
when it comes to anything
that is struggling.
I mean, we're able to run the ball
a little bit so far this season.
So it's not like it's a complete total loss,
but we just got to do everything better
and it's not any one thing.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
That's something we've got to spend a lot of time on today.
You know, I think everybody's involved in that
coaching and playing.
So, you know, I really don't know, Aaron.
I think we've just got to look at Jacksonville and see what we believe is the best way to run the ball and try to make that work.
You know, every week's a little bit different relative to what we see defensively.
So we're just going to try to, you know, see what we're, see what we have to do against Jacksonville and try to make that work.
There's a nice relative, too, in there.
Yeah, why don't you, that should be every one of your questions should be relative to.
the National Football League.
Or it's hard. We've got to focus on
the next week of opponent.
Yes. We're on a Jacksonville. Great start.
You kind of fizzled out. I'll give you two and a half stars. Yeah, I think there
were two core messages. One was that it's everybody. You got that one. Two was that
we need to figure out what to do against Jacksonville. You didn't get that. I'm sorry.
I'm actually going to go with Matt. Exactly two and a half stars.
Thank you. Next up. All right. Second one.
Bill O'Brien on what's holding back, Brandon Cook's
19 seconds.
this is good
I don't know where to go with this one Ross
look I don't know that it's about
anything being held back
do we want him more involved in the passing game
of course do we scheme for him
of course it's just a matter of certain things
happen in situations I don't think that
we're necessarily going away from him
but Brandon Cooks is a good wide receiver
and we want them involved in our game plans
I think Brandon's doing a good job
he's running good routes
I just think it's you know sometimes
you know the coverage dictates
where the ball will go
and DeShan's just trying to throw it to the open guy.
Look, sometimes Brandon's open, but, you know,
the Reed takes it to another place.
So, you know, we just have to keep working and keep trying to get better.
That's all we can do.
Four stars.
Keep trying to get better.
That's what we can do.
That was one of those things you have to grade very, very loosely because that's a difficult question.
I'll give you four out of that.
Very nicely done.
I think that was close to perfect.
I don't think I've given five before, but I'm going to give five stars.
Oh, wow.
Unless he went word for word, I'm not sure he could have done a whole lot better.
Very good. Okay. So you're off to a rip-rower and start here. Cut number three.
All right. Bill O'Brien on if he's worried about team morale, 30 seconds.
Ooh, this is good.
I wouldn't say it's necessarily anything that we're worried about. Look, we've been here before. We've lost games before. We've got a lot of veteran guys. We've got a lot of smart guys in that room and a lot of professionals. And guys who come here ready to play, they work hard. And they know that it's hard to win in the National Football League.
So relative to the fact that this is a week-to-week league, we're just looking forward on Jacksonville.
We're focused on Jacksonville, and that's what we're looking at right now.
Phil, you know, look, I think where we are is not good, obviously, but I do think that we have good leadership on this team.
And, you know, we have guys that, you know, work hard, and they, you know, they believe in each other.
And, you know, I think they feel like we're close and we just need to get a win.
But, no, I'm not worried about the morale.
I'm just, you know, I think we have good guys that understand, you know,
what we have to do to try to dig ourselves out of it.
Three and a half stars.
Can't complain.
I told you I didn't think Bill O'Brien was as good this week.
And I think maybe that's made it easier on Ross.
So, you know what it is?
As the losses roll up, Ross's would you talk about to become easier?
I'm going to go four stars.
but I don't think Ross has actually improved.
I think Bill O'Brien has worse out.
Sounds ready to give you some credit.
I still give you four stars.
Last up, here we go.
Final one on what you're talking about, Bill.
I think this one's difficult.
Bill O'Brien was asked about Watt saying,
JJ Watt saying they need to work harder
and what he thinks about that.
19 seconds.
Work harder.
Basically, we put the cut about a half an hour ago.
Look, obviously, JJ is entitled to his opinion,
and he's right.
and the fact that if we're losing and we're not winning games,
that there's more that we can do.
So we can always work harder.
You can always not leave any stone unturned,
and there are things you can always do better.
So sure, we can work harder and sure, we can do better.
And that's just evidenced by the fact that we have not won a game.
So we can always improve.
I mean, I don't know, Mark.
I think that's a better question for him.
I don't know.
I know that he works very hard, and, you know, we're going to continue to work hard.
We're all in it together.
And we're trying to figure out a way to dig ourselves out of it.
I believe that's what he's talking about.
You know, we're just trying to figure out how to day ourselves out of it.
That was, he really didn't even answer the question.
He didn't go, like, I know why JJ's mad.
He just glossed over the entire thing.
I think he lost on a better answer that, Bill O'Brien.
Not answering the question?
So that's an incomplete on that one.
Okay, thank you.
So this is a passing grade for you in which talking about it.
Well, you know, that's all I work for, Matt.
Seas make degrees.
You were talking to my son and love it, haven't you?
Early, how close you guys are to each other.
All right, we resume on the phones.
We come back.
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If you want to talk some Astros, I'm in 4-2.
Anybody want to make a prediction on the Astro series?
We have to get ours locked in, don't?
We do have to get ours locked in.
We'll go over pitching, lineups, bullpen, and figure it out from there, right?
What do you think?
Okay.
And see where we go on that.
We'll do that before the close the show.
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Breaking news, let me think about what this could be.
All right.
Rockets have a new coach?
No.
That would be a woge bomb right there, or Shams bomb.
Didn't Shams break that Trump had coronavirus?
He's connected.
Say what you will.
Who is his White House source?
I would believe it was Obama because Obama likes the NBA.
Press secretary's got it too.
Yeah.
She's a, like her.
Yeah.
I know you like her, man.
Oh, I do.
I do.
Oh, she's feeling better.
All right, anyways.
Anyways.
Oh, okay.
Got caught up in the moment there.
Does anybody involved in the White House not have it at this point?
Yeah.
Okay, so no Rockets coach.
Nobody's hurt from the Astros.
It's got to be Texans related.
Go ahead.
What is it?
This is Texans insider, John McLean.
Expect Bill O'Brien to call plays the rest of the season.
Seriously.
What a train wreck of an organization.
First of all, this is not me being pro Tim Kelly, okay?
Because Tim Kelly was overmatched.
Tim Kelly has been Bill O'Brien's lackey for how many years, going back to the Penn State days, right?
Yes.
He probably never should have been an accordion to begin with.
But that just shows you again that Bill O'Brien cannot create a proper infrastructure.
Did it used to be prey on this and say, you know what, Bill, you're probably better off doing?
I mean, was there anything dramatically different in the way that game was played out yesterday?
than it was the weeks before when Kelly supposedly was calling the plays?
No.
Sluggish half of one sort.
Crappy second half against Petsburg.
Can't run the ball.
Yeah, crappy offensive start.
I mean, woeful against Minnesota.
I was afraid Minnesota was going to put up 35.
And then I realized Minnesota had won a game yet.
So things, so they were going to revert, they were going to revert to the norm.
It was going to be a close game after all.
That's why I tweeted out the other day yesterday, this, that game had a buffalo
field to it.
And Brian T's like, no, it doesn't.
Yeah, it absolutely had a buffalo.
field to it. If the catch is made by Will Fuller, that's a touchdown.
Chances are they would have scored a two-point conversion and you'd have overtime.
Yes.
So I'm just saying it wasn't so far off to think that it had a Buffalo field of the game yesterday.
Well, Bill O'Brien has retaken over play calling duties in the first four weeks, which I said like six months ago.
So he is the head coach, general manager, offensive coordinator.
Yes.
Tim Kelly is not coordinating crap.
No.
Coordinating means you run the offense.
You're not running the offense.
So what does Tim do?
Tim ought to be like, you know if I was Tim Kelly, which I don't know him?
If he walked through him and said, hi, I'm Tim Kelly, I'd say, prove it, show me a driver's license.
I would actually resign and go get away from him because all Tim Kelly's doing is ruining his potential to coach somewhere else.
When Bill O'Brien lands at like Youngstown State, he can go there.
So George Gottsey got the heave-ho.
is there anybody else? I'm trying to remember if anybody else has been given play calling duties and then get it's kicked.
No, that's just the two. Rick, I mean, George Gotti lasted like two weeks.
Tim Kelly lasted four weeks.
And we all, and everybody knew this was going to happen.
What was the running joke? How long is Tim Kelly?
You know what I'm going to do right now.
Uh-oh.
I got to go to what's your favorite Tim Kelly is a play call a moment.
Oh, I get you got to tweet that, yeah.
I got to go that right now.
I said, I looked at the first four weeks of the schedule and I said, how long does he last?
and that's when we had
we need he had Joe in here because he said
no, there's no way he can do that.
This is just going to be that bad of a look.
I'm like, all right, well, let's see.
We'll see what happens.
And he's already taking him back.
Carl and Dickinson on the Matt Thomas show at 120.
Carl, thank you for holding.
How are you?
We're doing great.
How are you?
Yeah, they need to can the coach, man.
He's a joke.
The whole deal last year,
they were going to bring in a coordinator
to save his job last year.
he's still pulling the same old thing.
And he needs to pin the tail on the donkey.
Get rid of him.
Look at his resume.
Where did this guy come from, man?
He ought to be coaching junior college football somewhere maybe.
But anyway, the Texans, I don't even listen to him anymore.
They're not playing good.
They're paying them way too much money and they're not delivering.
Let's get back to the old times when the football players made less.
We had outstanding great coaches.
George Allen, John Madden, Dick, all the great football coaches.
We had great football.
But nowadays, it's a joke.
They're running the NFL on the ground, plus the politics involved.
You can kiss it goodbye unless something happens soon.
But the Astros, they're winners.
I like Dusty Baker.
I like the whole program now.
I'm very happy with the Astros.
Thank God we got some winners in town.
Right here on Sports Talk 790.
Thank you very much for the phone call.
Got a market, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
You want to go back to the old days, Matt?
The good old days, the players weren't making money.
They were wearing.
Great coaches.
They didn't have face masks on their heads, on their faces.
Yeah, their brains were all getting turned into jello pudding.
The good old days, Matt.
I love the NFL today.
I don't have to be that.
It's not the same.
It's not the same.
But, yeah, it is, the penalties are bad.
And there's a lot of, which game was it?
Where there was a roughing the passer?
You're like, what did it even just happen there?
Was it the Raiders game?
I can't remember.
It doesn't matter.
It's definitely a different game, so I get that.
And the good old days were the good old days,
but the reason they've changed are because they're making a lot more money,
and there's legal liabilities with people getting massive head injuries all the time.
And technology is better.
And football's not safe.
I do not have the...
It will never be safe.
I don't have the issues that people may have about, well, when grown men were doing this.
No, it's a dangerous-ass sport.
And I wouldn't...
And if I had a son's that were age, I could do it, I would say, don't do it.
because you're just going to get your brains beat out.
Joe Burrow, God bless him.
I'm watching a little bit of the Bengals game yesterday.
He's not going to survive either.
He is getting David Carr in Cincinnati, but he's better.
Joe Burroughs better than David Carr is at this point.
We might hear about Joe Burrow during the NFL rewind or recap.
I like rewind.
Okay, the NFL rewind.
Rewind.
Because it's fast.
It's fooves.
Good audio.
Boom, boom, boom.
Recap is like, in the second quarter.
Nobody needs that.
We just want the highlights.
We want the rewind.
Okay.
Bradley and Sugarland on 790.
Hi, Bradley.
Hey, what's up, guys?
How's everything going?
Great.
Yeah, I wanted to talk a little bit about the Astros about the rivalry they have with the A's,
with the whole Luriano and, you know, of course, Mike fires and everything else.
I just want to hear your input on it and what you guys think about it.
And my prediction is usually the Astros win three to two.
Yeah, I was going to say, I always thought these series would be higher scoring.
What, of the eight first round series, six of them were just obnoxiously high in scoring, two or not.
The Astros series are not a big scoring series, no were the Reds and Braves.
No word on fires yet.
He won't be pitching games one or two.
It'd be sort of his slot to go in three.
But really at this point has not been a storyline.
I think it will become a storyline once Mike fires and is announced that he's going to start again.
Yeah, it'll definitely be a tasty storyline.
Yeah.
Astros A's in Dodger Stadium.
Now, of course, it's getting tucked into the afternoon every day all week.
Well, again, zero surprise than that.
You know what the weirdest thing is?
What's the weirdest thing, Matt?
They're at the same hotel.
Oh, they are?
Yeah.
Is there going to be a rumble?
Is Centron and Luriona?
Are they going to go after it?
Or are they going to play like a game of chicken in the hotel pool?
Who's more likely to get in a fight?
Remember you do chicken fights?
you put somebody on your shoulder and you get in the pool and they go after it?
Who's on your shoulders?
Just curious.
It's going to be Alex Centron on Carlos Correa's shoulders.
He's kind of tall, though.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Would you rather watch the Centron Loriano get after it?
Yeah.
Or Mike Fires against Bregman?
Breggman doesn't seem like a fighter.
Okay.
Redick.
Fires seems like somebody who wants to fight.
Oh, Carl's Correa.
Carl's Correa will fight him.
Carl's Correa will destroy Mike Fires' entire existence.
Seriously, because from what I understand, they're the only people in the hotel.
Okay.
So it means they can go downstairs and eat?
So they could do like ALDS fight club up in a presidential suite or something like that.
No, no, no, you have a food fight.
Food fight?
Of course.
That's wasteful and probably going to spread COVID.
I guess any fight is going to spread COVID.
You cannot fight because you're playing in a playoffs series.
You don't want to touch, throw hands.
Can you mask up while you fight?
No, it's a bunch of pushing around.
No, no, no, nobody's going to get hurt.
Okay.
Here's what you do.
You food fight, you...
Food fight.
That's just weightsful, Matt.
They can afford it.
I know they can afford it.
I'm just saying...
There's a lot of homeless people in L.A.
Just give them the food.
Okay.
Take the scraps and go.
Jason and Cyprus at 125.
Hi, Jason.
Hey, man.
How you doing?
Good.
All right on.
So Astros in four off the bat.
Nice.
I just really hope they do, man.
Let's go.
So on the Texans, I just, so for years I've believed that Bill O'Brien and ownership is terrible and will continue to win our team.
How do we get out?
Like, let's say we fire Bill O'Brien.
We're just going to hire another really ineffectual coach who panders to ownership.
Like, is it just ownership?
It isn't it always going to be for the Houston Texans as long as McNair is running the show that it's just it's just that is that is that what we have for football team?
for the foreseeable future.
Realistically, to give you a very short answer to your very complicated question,
it would require an ownership change.
Right.
So it's just going to be the same crap.
Well, let me put it this way.
I tried to give Cal the benefit of the doubt when his dad passed and saying that maybe, you know,
now that he's no longer in dad's shadows, that he'll treat the franchise differently,
all Cal has done since his dad has passed has given more power to a guy that we all despised.
Right.
A guy who shouldn't have it.
Correct. So why would I think that things, that the right decisions would be made,
even if they got rid of Bill O'Brien? Because it sounds like to me he doesn't want to.
It sounds like to me that it would have to take a complete, I mean, JJ Watt and Deshaun Watson
would have to storm into Cal's office, provided he was actually there and yelled at him and said,
we need a new coach. Short of that, Cal's not going to make that move because, first of all,
he's given all this power. It would have to make him look bad, and he's going to have to pay Bill
O'Brien a lot of money. And then he's going to have to go get somebody else, which means
you know if he's already paying one coach a lot of money, he doesn't want to have to
to pay too.
Right.
So get somebody
cheap.
All right.
Let's go Astros.
Yeah.
Go Astros.
Rockets next year, baby.
Let's do it.
Yeah.
Here's the thing, Rossi.
We need the Astros to be good.
We need something like 2020
collectively has sucked, right?
Yeah.
Rockets flamed out in the second round.
Texans are 0 and 4.
Astros are in the ALDS.
Let's go.
To surprise us.
Give us something.
Make us
stay away from the
stench that is over on Kirby and just focus on something pleasant in Los Angeles, of all places.
Sounds like a nice place for some redemption, Matthew.
Ronald, Richard, Gerard.
Standby, we'll get to all three of you.
But next, it's the Rewind on the NFL weekend.
Sports overview will entertain you with some of the great moments not involving it.
There's no Texans lowlights in the Rewind, is there?
No, we usually keep the Texans out of it.
Thank God.
And by the way, I don't even know we're going to have time for Rotten 5 this week,
but how do you not make the Rotten 5?
How does Ross not put the local football team in the Rotten 5?
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Wish we could find some music that's not every other NFL recap segment.
I love this song, though.
But it is so football.
By the way, before we get to your rewind.
There it is.
How about those bears?
No, I don't really care.
Nobody cares about the Bears.
Hey, that Colts defense is legit, though.
Best defense in the NFL.
And who they played twice?
Oh, forget it.
You were at the game yesterday.
Why did you go?
I was. My cousin's a Vikings fan.
He moved to Austin, so we saw tickets pretty affordable.
So we decided to go.
And readily available.
And readily available.
I mean, it was like a buck 20 or sitting, though.
How many people were?
How many legitimate people were there?
I think there was less than 5,000 people there.
Damn.
I mean, I don't know.
There was like about 40 people in our section.
Every section was about the.
the same. I really don't think there was
more than, it felt so
empty. What did it sound like when there
was an exciting, like in the Texas score a touchdown?
What did it sound like? A low
attended high school football game. How often
were there booze? Pretty frequent.
Big Bill, fire bill
chances we left the stadium.
Well, at least you're on the Texans caps.
You're all in. You don't I'm going to start calling you?
Texan Joe.
I like that. I'm going to start calling you Battle Red Joe.
How about Joe the Texan?
Joe, that's what you are. You're Joe the Texan.
But I saw Debbie, I met, and I didn't meet Debbie, but I saw Debbie for the first time.
Who's that?
Debbie the Texan.
Oh.
No idea who that is.
Nope.
Yeah, you do.
I got a fused of copyright infringement last night, basically.
By whom?
By someone on Twitter, because on my show, we were talking about Texans Karen.
When we tweeted out a photo, they tagged you guys in it.
Oh, okay.
They said, is this, are you trying to copyright?
Who is it?
Who is it?
Texans Karen?
No.
I didn't invent Texans Karen.
Well, they tagged the other guy, too.
Texans Karen, I believe the first person I heard ever say that was NFL.com's
Lance is early. Yeah, they tagged him too. But we all,
Karen is such a universal phrase.
Everybody's a Karen of some sort.
Yes. I like Darlene the
Texan. That's my jam.
That's what I was heard of remember what he does last night.
I despise Darlene the Texan.
Matt, calm down. I hate her.
Because she's always tagging
We are Texans, Darling the Texan.
Just let her have her wine out of
her pink Texans chalice on a Sunday.
All right, you're done.
I can't hear. No, I came here to talk about
Bill O'Brien.
Shush.
I heard you,
you call for it.
That's right,
you don't even have a show
today.
Why are you in here?
Yeah,
you know what?
We need a show to validate.
What did you say?
Because remember we were like,
there's no way he can stop
calling plays after four weeks.
Yeah,
I said there's no way.
Bill O'Brien would look like an idiot.
Well?
Well.
He is.
Here we are.
Oh, you're going to see Adam Clinton this week,
by the way?
Yeah, because the actors are going to win in four,
so I'll see you on Friday.
Oh, I like that.
I like that.
All right.
All right.
Now, now we must be quiet for momentary.
I'm going to leave it now.
Okay, goodbye.
Go look forward to hearing you at some point this week.
Wednesday night, 8 o'clock on my Facebook page.
Oh, there you go on the Sports Talk 790 Facebook page.
Wait, no, you have a show on Wednesday night at 8 o'clock.
Yes, I do.
Thursday night at 8 o'clock.
Cougar Sports Magazine 8 o'clock this Wednesday.
I can't wait.
Well, we're finally going to have a game for the love of God.
Are you sure?
Now, shut your dirty horn now.
Now, the NFL rewashed.
Oh, sure.
Let's talk about the other team in Texas.
The Dallas Cowboys getting down 38 to 14 to the Cleveland Browns,
but they fought back.
In the gun, Elliot to his left, snap back, looks right.
Deep fade, right side of the end zone.
Touchdown, CD Lamb.
The Cowboys would fight back to 41 to 38, but they would eventually lose.
Dak Prescott, 502 yards, four touchdowns a pick.
He is pacing Matthew for 6,760 yards.
Nobody's ever passed over 5,500 in the NFL, but Dax says he'd give it all up for a win.
I'd give all those yards, all those yards back for a different record.
So I care about one stat and that's to win.
So when we don't do that, no other stats matter.
Cowboys, one in three, but they're only a half game behind or whatever you would call it.
The Philadelphia Eagles, who are one, two, and one.
The NFC least is what it's looking like over there on that side of the conference.
Matthew?
Oh, I must have reply.
I'm sorry.
Hey, go ahead.
I thought, you know, this is a review where you talk and I talk, but we don't have to.
Odell Beckham's touchdown in the fourth quarter was magnificent.
Where he just ran past everybody. It was incredible.
It was, and again, those Cleveland uniforms are awful.
But why is Cleveland better than the Texans? Answer that question for me.
Why are they better?
They have a better coach.
They change coaches, correct?
Yes.
And it actually is starting to work.
Well, they change coaches like every other year.
That's true.
All right, as you were.
Like Matt changes winter coats.
All right, let's keep it going.
How about the chargers of 24 to 7 on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers?
The charges to that point an 89.8%
chance to win, but Tom Brady had other plans.
Here's the snap in Scotty Miller.
Brady throws a pass near side like, caught ball by Vaughn.
Three, two, one.
Touchdowns, Tampa Bay.
Vaughan's first catcher's career, and it's six for the bucks.
Tom Brady with another comeback win.
The Buccaneers now three in one.
Here's Tom after the game.
We put ourselves in a pretty good hole.
We're going to have to dig our way out of it, and that's just the way football works sometimes
and just got to tighten some things up.
Glad we came back.
Defense made a big play for us for the end of half, and that got us.
you know, ignited a little bit.
And we made some plays in the third quarter,
made some good plays in the fourth quarter.
So finish your start of the game well, finish your game well.
We just, that middle part, we've got to figure out how to play 60 minutes well.
I got news for you.
He didn't look 42.
Now, he doesn't look prime, Tom Brady, but his rapid, quote-unquote decline,
eh, I ain't buying it.
Five touchdowns yesterday.
369 yards, five touchdowns.
On the other side, though, Matt, Justin Herbert,
20 yards, three touchdowns.
One of the throws, a really good throw off of his back foot with the defense closing in.
Bruce Ariens with some high praise for Justin Herbert after the game.
I told Anthony after the game, I said, you've got a great one.
The retreat and play that looked like Mahomes, where we had an all-out blitz,
and he just kept retreating, throw it a dime down the field.
And for rookies to make plays like that, you know they're special.
Bruce Ariens saying Justin Herbert on that play looking like Pat Mahomes.
It's a little bit of a stretch.
You'll pump the brakes on that?
By the way, we've got to clarify a Schmo's pick
in the end of the second.
Oh, that's true.
And we'll have to get Brendan's advice.
COVID is ruining my line.
I know.
I know.
Anything else?
Yeah, how about this one?
Derek Carr and the Oakland Raiders losing.
They're now two and two on the season.
Here's what Derek Carr had to say after that one.
He is not happy with losing.
I'm sick of losing.
I'm sick of working as hard as I do and as we do
and going out there and losing.
I mean, it sucks.
Enough is enough is enough.
You know, I think that's my message.
I'm excited, you know, obviously for that.
I dreamed of it when I got drafted here.
I looked all those stats up and was like, man, I want to break all these, you know, as a competitor.
But I'm sick of losing.
Like, enough's enough.
I'm tired of it.
A 30 to 23 loss for the Raiders against the Bills who are now 4 and O.
Derek Carr, 57 losses, the most in the first seven seasons by any starting quarterback.
56 was the record held by Warren Moon, Jim Zorn, and his brother, David Carr.
So they've got 113 losses during their first four years of NFL playing career.
That's not good for the car.
Do you think of great brother combinations in the history of the NFL?
Yes.
Are they the worst?
Who's the best?
Tiki and Ronde?
Wow, that's a good call.
T.J. and J.J.?
Eventually we'll be up there.
They'll be better than Rondea and Tiki.
But who's like, is there anybody else that right out the top?
Probably somebody we're forgetting.
The grammaticas?
Oh, the Anderson's.
Morton and didn't he have a brother?
No, they're not related.
Morning and Gary are not related.
They're not related?
I didn't know that.
I tried.
You want one more, Matt?
Or do you want to go to the phones?
One more.
Okay, one more.
How about this one?
Now we talked about him earlier.
Joe Burrow with a 33 to 25 win over the Jaguars,
his first win as a starting quarterback.
Here's what he had to say about the.
throwing 300 yards in each of his first, I think was it four games as a start?
That's an NFL record for a rookie quarterback.
You're the first quarterback in NFL, a rookie quarterback in NFL history,
to throw for 300 yards, three games.
How does that make you feel?
We got the win.
That's all I care about.
The last two, we didn't win.
So it feels good to win.
I'm going to do whatever it takes to win, win football games.
Like I said, I'll throw it zero or a hundred times.
I'll throw for seven yards or 500.
It doesn't matter to me.
So there you go.
Three games straight of 300 or more yards.
The first time ever done by a rookie, and they finally got a win.
So Joe Burrow looking okay.
And that's the NFL Rewind.
Matt.
Sports Talk 790 in The Matt Thomas Show.
Brendan, you don't know this, but one of our selectors here, Ross, has the New England game with the Kansas Chief, which tonight at 6 o'clock.
I also had the Vikings.
I also had the Colts.
I can't remember what else I had.
Buffalo.
Ooh.
That's a little stout three and O, isn't it, Matt?
Yes.
As we're into October here on Beat the Shmows.
Okay, so New England, it was plus seven.
Now, there was no injury on Friday that would force a change.
COVID is something you don't know about it into the very last second.
So just to let you know, I made the executive decision that you have to still pick the game.
Okay.
The spread is now 11.
Now, Brendan, as you are part of the Shmose competition that we have here, do we hold him to New England and then give
him the four extra points or do we give him the option of making the switch and taking
Kansas City minus the 11th? What would you think is the fair thing to do in the situation?
I like allowing the re-pick. The line has changed dramatically. I like the option to repick.
Okay, so we'll give you the option. New England plus 11 or Kansas City minus 11. Originally,
you had taken New England plus the same. Well, the reason I'd take in New England is because
they have a big mismatch over the defensive line of the chiefs. They're going to run the ball well. I still
think they're going to do that. So I will take the 11 and I'll stick with the Patriots.
All right, there you go.
So if you get that right, you're a perfect forno, you'd have a plus 10,000, and then you would be considered godlike in Las Vegas.
Let's go, baby.
All right.
And that is the NFL rewind.
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One final segment before we get to Astros baseball.
We'll take another couple of calls, 713, 2125, 790, and then we, the three of us will make our predictions about the series coming up.
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I hope you hosting that.
I believe Michael Conner's got the 10th inning show tonight.
I'll have it for you tomorrow.
We're all going to get involved somehow, somewhere.
It's a beautiful 81-degree day in Houston.
What is in Los Angeles right now?
Ooh, that's a great question.
I love Dodger Stadium.
It's a pain in the ass to get inside.
But once you get in, you really enjoy it.
And then it's really a pain in the ass to leave.
Actually, 88 degrees.
I took a, I think when I went, I took a shuttle, there's a shuttle bus.
So it wasn't, it wasn't difficult for me.
We tried Ubering.
Flask it on the shuttle bus and, you know.
All right.
Write that on downtown.
You don't want to stay there after dark around there.
No, it's not safe at all.
The Astros were, what,
two and eight against them this year?
I believe so.
Yeah, because the third game in Houston was sent to open because of COVID.
Or was that?
No, the Angels was the hurricane or the hurricane lore, right?
Okay.
Which one was the,
civil unrest one.
I think that was the one.
Right?
I don't think it was COVID.
I can't keep track of everything that's happened to this gimmicky season.
It is externally gimmicky.
And if the Astros win, they'll win a gimmicky World Series.
Or the Yankees will win it.
That'd be amazing.
Or the Dodgers might win it.
But whoever's winning is winning a gimmicky World Series.
Yeah, you know, during the show, I was checking the series price because you know I like Vegas.
I know you do.
I was surprised to see the Astros only a plus 120 underdog.
They are minus 144.
favorite are the Oakland A's.
All right, let me just tell you.
Their lineup, I mean, Luriano has been a pain in the ass for them, 314 against the
Astros this year.
Tony Kemp, ironically enough, hit well against his old teammates.
I was looking and was preparing for the show.
Bregman's terrible against the A's.
El Tuba has been terrible against the A's.
Martime Al-Nanato has not been good against the A's.
Bregman only had one hit in the division series.
Altube didn't get any.
Two games.
It's true.
Very small sample size,
but really the Altuva sample size
has been very large.
Yeah, I'm out on Otuve being effective,
and quite frankly,
I'm sick of seeing him bet second.
What is it going to come down to?
Man, if it was in Oakland,
that stadium has been cursed to the Astros for a couple of years now.
But the Astros have hit well in Dodgers Stadium.
I think the Astros' mood is significantly better,
but that's only going to go so far.
Bullpen, their bullpen is way better than the Astros.
Starting pitching.
Astros have seen this kid pitch quite a bit.
Bassett quite a bit.
I mean, I could be true Homer, but baseball's hard to predict, right?
Isn't it?
Man, no more fence sitting.
Make a prediction.
He's in four.
Ooh.
I'm really very concerned about the offense.
The bullpen doesn't bother me.
I don't think Ranky is going to be, if he gets, if he uses, which I think if it goes to a fourth game, it will be.
I'm worried about the bats just collectively going silent like they have gone more times than you care to think about, especially in the second half of the season.
I really hope I'm wrong.
I do too, Matt.
So with that being said, well, I said the Astros wouldn't win a game in the first series.
Yes, and you were very consistent about that.
Very much off base.
thankfully. Now I'm picking them to win. I hope I'm back on base when it comes to this. I'm going with the Astros in four.
All right. I think the pitching will just be good enough. I think the bats are, I just like the lineup. I continue to believe outside of Altuve. Altuva, I don't know why he's batting second. I don't know why he continues to be put in that position and I expect nothing from him. Every time he comes up, it's automatic out time.
And all you're hoping for at this point is he advanced the runner for somebody on base.
get a walk. He's got a couple, but his plate discipline overall hasn't been great.
When he swings at something, it's either going to be a pop-up or it's going to be a ground-out.
That's all he's done this entire time, or at least it feels like the entire season.
So I expect nothing out of him, but I think the other guys can get just enough done.
I think they can scratch some wins together. I think the Ashro's winning for.
I hope you're 100% right. Brendan, you're the cider here. Where is the show going with this series?
You know, as Ross pointed out, they're not huge underdogs in Vegas.
And I think managing matters so much more in the playoffs.
And I really think Dusty's a good in-game manager.
I'm going to go Astros in five.
I think it'll be very tight.
I think you're going to be very, very nervous come Friday show.
Okay.
And you know what?
That's good.
To be nervous about something in sports.
Because it means something good potentially could happen.
You're not nervous about the Texans anymore.
No, no.
I mean, they're going to beat Jacksonville,
and everybody's going to do a bunch of guitar solos and stuff.
Is that to irritate you or is that just me?
Did you know what's a guitar thing?
Well, when he did it a couple times?
Because that was the first time he had touched a quarterback.
I mean, no more air guitar.
We're air guitar free into your...
I don't think you can be air guitar until you get to 500.
And players celebrating doesn't really ever bother me.
So they're playing a game.
Out there, I have a good time, Matt.
They're not having a good time.
They're giving up seven yards of carry to Daven Cook.
That can't be a good time.
Whitney was having a good time when he had a sack.
Two of them.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm just, just go out there and win.
Be pissed off like JJ is.
I don't think it's an act.
It could be, but I'm just thinking that JJ's about had enough of all this.
And by the way, on the back to the Astros real quick, if they get to a game five, I don't think they're going to win.
I think the starting pitching will be depleted too far.
I don't even know what the plan for a game five would be.
I think they need to, if the Astros won.
to win this series, they have to do it in three.
Especially if Christian Javier is being used
at that first long inning guy.
Game five, it's, I don't know, they're going to be
piecing it together, and that would be very, or somebody on
short rest, and I'd be very worried about that.
Gerard, I got about two minutes. Go.
Astros and four.
Springer, Brantley, Tucker, and Correa hit that home one in
Minnesota. Hope low guys can carry us
offensive when we get the good starting pitching
and Javier come in and do a good job
on the bullpen. Astros in four. Quick thing
on the tickle. You know, when
Deshawn watching was a wicket season, you know,
the office they were running was the same office he ran in college at Kirstam University.
Now, the problem came in the offseason when Bill O'Brien implemented his offense,
that New England Patriots offense.
And ever since then, to me, Sean Watson has been going downhill.
And I got camouflaged because they was in a weak division.
And they had Di Andre Hopkins, and they had a good defense.
They were still able to win 10 games, 11 games, losing the first round,
get by the first round, lose to the Kansas City.
But now it's all coming to fruition, man.
You got the guy in the wrong offense.
You got to implement and maximize his strengths.
His strength is throwing and running.
One of the offense that he was, that he produced a national championship in Clemson
like he was doing his rookie year.
Go back to that offense and hopefully you'll get to production and you'll be able to
outscore.
And hopefully the defense will slowly but surely improve.
But the defense has been awful.
That's the problem there, too.
They can't stop nobody.
They can't stop the run.
They can't stop the past.
But I think the offense can get much better if you get Deshaun Watson back in the
offense that he ran in college and the office that he ran his rookie year before he got injured
against Seattle, man.
I think that's what Bill O'Brien.
I need to be going into the game against Jacksonville.
Quick thing on the Rockets, man.
I'm hearing Kenny Ackins or Paul Silas might be the next coach with the Rockets, man.
We'll see, man.
Those two guys run similar offenses than what the Rockets have run in the past,
and they say they're going to stick to that offense of that small ball
and hitting layups and shooting three type of offense.
So those two guys probably the best candidates that you're going to continue to run
the offense that the Rockers have run over the last three or four years.
that's all I got.
That's good.
We keep it there.
My buddy John Lucas is being seriously considered for the head coach.
I saw that.
How about that?
That'd be good.
Good, I guess, right?
I mean, he's been a long time assist, but it's interesting to see him go if he were
to go from player development because he wasn't necessarily, was he involved in game planning
and that type of stuff?
Oh, yeah, but more, he was more in the, here's four or five players, go groom them.
Because, let's face it, in college coaching, there's not much coaching done.
If you're a good athlete, good enough playing the NBA,
it doesn't mean you don't have it, you don't need work.
You got Clint Capella's a free throw percentage up.
Everybody's tweeting about it.
I told Gerrata Elliott in two minutes.
Y'all don't ever stop being who you are.
Hey, Ross, you're done for the day.
I am?
Get out of here.
All right, bye.
I'm going to Astros on deck.
We'll do that after we tell you.
Who are we talking about here to wrap up the show today?
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