The Matt Thomas Show with Ross - USA USA USA! USA vs AUS! Astros vs Guardians Tonight, Will Imai Turn It Around?

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

USA USA USA! USA vs AUS! Astros vs Guardians Tonight, Will Imai Turn It Around? ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. Straight up in the AM here on Sports Talk 790. Hello and welcome in to the Matt Thomas show with Ross. However, for the next couple of days without Matt Thomas, as he is out in Galveston, I told him to relax. Hopefully he will. We'll see. So tomorrow it will be Chris Gordy hanging out as we will be out at Poor Behavior
Starting point is 00:00:33 in Midtown for the show. show starting at 10 a.m. Then at 1.30, we will go into USA versus Australia coverage, and we got a watch party at 2 o'clock tomorrow as well. So make sure you guys come out. You want to knock off early? Look, it's Friday. It's a half day. It's the World Cup. Come hang out. Poor behavior on Travis Street in Midtown. We'll be there for a watch party at 10 a.m. Today, we have Adam Clanton coming in at 1 o'clock. He's going to hang out and make a bunch of bogey nights references. And right now we have Brian Bogussevick, normally our weekly guess, but we're stretching you out to
Starting point is 00:01:06 like starters role at this point, Brian. We got you in a full two hours today. Yeah, it's all good. I'm better fit for today than tomorrow. You ready to go? I don't know that if poor behavior at 10 o'clock in the morning and then trying to do an Astros pre and post game on a Friday night would do it. It might be a little difficult, but
Starting point is 00:01:22 I would believe in you, but yeah, we'll see. So, well, you could still come by. You come by for a little USA Watch, but it's not that far. That would be a bad business decision for me. All right, so Brian Brian Bogusevick is hanging out. have normal Thursday stuff. And really, Jonathan, I need you to keep me,
Starting point is 00:01:37 you got to keep me in line because you know when Matt goes out. So Matt is kind of like the, I'm more the guy that just sits here and makes fun of him for four hours. And then when he's not here, it's like, oh, it's like the substitute teacher is here. And I forget what the game plan is. So 1130, we have I dish, don't get it. Correct, Jonathan? Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Okay, you're going to bring us the news at noon coming up at noon. Brian McTaggart, we have moved to tomorrow because we have our resident baseball expert you here today, Brian. McTaggart doesn't know anything that I don't know. Well, maybe, actually. I guess we could debate that. So McTaggart's going to be on tomorrow at 11 o'clock. We got Brian Bogus, 7.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Then we have you folks, the 10 o'clockers. We appreciate you listening. 713-212-5-790 is the phone number you want to get in. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. We have a lot of stuff to get to. I didn't realize, Bogie, we were talking a little bit before the show, but we'll talk about some more later. But so you've been getting into the...
Starting point is 00:02:34 the World Cup. Sure. All right. Cool. Do you have a team, do you have any sort of team or Bogusevic? It's, it sounds like it's, what's the origin there? Team Lithuania didn't make it this round. Yeah, maybe, maybe next time. Maybe next time. It's Team USA, obviously, and then whoever is on TV. Whoever is, that's the beauty of it. I picked my team as the game's going on. I was a big Donna fan by about the second half of the game last night. You got Cape Verdi, Saudi Arabia going here in United States. I mean, I'm a, you know, a huge. I mean, I'm a in Houston. I have no idea who anybody on either team is, but I just can't help but be thrilled watching some of these games. Because it matters, right? Like, we love games that matter. We love
Starting point is 00:03:13 sports that matter. We love fans who care. And this is not regular season sports. This is do or die every game, four games a day, whatever it is. And it's just, it's great to have meaningful sports nonstop. Yeah. So, I mean, yeah, I'm sitting there watching up like, Jaden Murdy give up a two run home run. He's like, oh, that suck. But when you, you like, see somebody from like Ghana give up a goal. It's like they fall to their knees and they start bowling their eyes out. I'm like, this matters. This is important.
Starting point is 00:03:40 It's the atmosphere that we get in the playoffs. It's the emotion that we get in the playoffs. And it's all day, every day. And we get to do it for, I don't know, what is it a month? It's been wonderful. And my first thought was 48 teams is way too many and it does kind of dilute it. But I've been flipping it on all the game. So it's the more, the better at this point.
Starting point is 00:03:58 You sound like the NCAA. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you know what? And let's do 64. What's Turkmenistan up to right now? I don't know. Let's see how the squads. Put them out there.
Starting point is 00:04:07 See how the squad looks. We're going to get Lithuanian one way or another. We got enough stadiums. No Kyle Field, no DKR. I mean, what else? The big house in Michigan? It's been one of the most fun parts about the World Cup is listening to Europeans just be amazed at everything that...
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yes. And the stadium size. And they don't even realize that they're not even seeing the biggest and the best. My favorite has been the reactions to Texas barbecue. Like, everybody has been. been like, oh my God, what is this? That's called seasoning. Yes, it's called seasoning, and it's called
Starting point is 00:04:39 tender, and it's called 12 hours of work, all right? You got to put some time in, you get that beef rib taste and that tender. Yeah, I have a feeling that there's going to be a Bucky's location somewhere overseas at some point. All right, 11 o'clock, we will be in here in studio flipping on Chechia in South Africa. I don't know anybody there, but
Starting point is 00:04:55 I'm feeling a little Chechia action, personally. Sure, why not? We'll see how it goes. Okay, of course we're going to talk some Astros as well with Brian Bogusevic in the fold. At least some semblance of what we're hoping for, Bogey. You had this big stretch against the last place teams. I call it a big stretch.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I mean, it's a middle of June, but at some point you're hoping for some kind of turnaround. Obviously, they fell flat on their faces against the Angels. Could have been swept in that series, if not for the gift in the game one, where Jose Al-Tube is going full Jose Al-Tuvae and running home and he's able to score as Logio, Logan O'Hoppe couldn't handle the ball.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Then you take two out of three against the Royals. Now you get two out of three against the Tigers. Peter Lambert was great yesterday. Hunter Brown was especially settled in after it wasn't shaky or anything like that, but he found a groove. So for like the fifth time this season, are the Astros ready to turn a corner? They should be.
Starting point is 00:05:55 All the ingredients are there, right? It's a team that is, it's the healthiest they've been all year. it's pretty close to being full strength. I know Christian Javier still has to make his way back. So you're almost through all of these injuries. The schedule certainly lines up favorably in terms of the teams that you're facing and their records and even a Cleveland team that's about to come into town without Jose Ramirez. So yeah, all of the ingredients are there.
Starting point is 00:06:22 It doesn't mean that if they don't run off 12 wins in 15 games that the season's over because you just look at the standings and they're not. all that far out of it. But it just feels like this is maybe their best chance that they're going to have, certainly in the middle of the season, of making that run. You always talk about kind of treading water, winning two out of three, just plotting along methodically and staying in it until you can make a run. Well, it feels like this is a chance to make the run. And, you know, if you miss on this opportunity, it's not over, but it's going to make it a heck of a lot harder to do it at some point.
Starting point is 00:07:00 How much standings watching do you think goes on? I mean, none at all. Like, I'm getting a very strong nothing from Brian Bogussevica. I was like not even like it's not posted anywhere or it's, I mean, because you have to kind of be aware. I'm not saying you're ruminating and fixating on it, but at least like guys have cell phone. Just check real quick. Oh, okay, we're three and a half back.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Guys are generally aware. They know who's ahead of them. They know who's behind them. They know who's playing well. who's kind of faltering at any given time. But there's no running to your phone as soon as the game's over to see. What do the Mariners do today because we won or lost? What's our fan grafts playoff odds, guys?
Starting point is 00:07:39 Oh, we're up to 21.1. At this point in the season, in the clubhouse, everything is still internally focused, right? How we are playing is much more of a big deal opposed to what everybody else is doing. We need to be playing the kind of baseball that we know we can. We need to be as healthy as we know we can be because that's what's going to be best for us over the long haul. And if we're in that situation, we should end up where we want to be. The last couple weeks of the season, when you're chasing a game or two, yes, you'll start checking box scores and everything. But right now, it's still just where are we at?
Starting point is 00:08:18 What can we do to get better? And how do we get to where we need to be? Yeah. So you have the day off today. then you have the Guardians coming in for the weekend. No Jose Ramirez for them. And I mean, they've been decent, have the Guardians, but it's not like they're any kind of world beaters tied for first place right now in the American League Central. And I'm starting to feel a little bit better, but it's also, I'm still, for example, especially, Mike Burroughs, we heard yesterday, by the way, is going to get skipped in a start.
Starting point is 00:08:48 That is, I think, good news for everyone. It's good news for the team. It's good news for him. Tatui Imi Obviously How are we feeling about him Because he had started to turn You can't deny Six innings of no-hit ball Against the Texas Rangers
Starting point is 00:09:02 And then a quality start And then I think like five innings A two-run ball And then whatever the hell that was In Kansas City Yeah I think The general consensus On Imai at this point
Starting point is 00:09:14 Is I have no idea You don't know You don't know what you're going to get You never know what you're going to get So he's the box of chocolate starter and then some. I mean, it's been, you've had about as extreme results as you can have, right? You had no hitter performance. You have had multiple don't get out of the first inning performances. On any given start, he can look like he's just pounding the strike zone and really confident. And then there are times when he's nibbling around the edges and doesn't look like he trusts his stuff. And I think we're finally getting to the point now where Hunter's back. Christian Javier is going to be back soon. and now you can look at and say this is an important start and maybe two or three starts coming up for MI of is he a guy that we trust moving forward and you know if you're going to consistently win
Starting point is 00:10:04 series if you're going to go on a run you need consistent starting pitching right you can't have these blow-up starts where number one you don't have a chance to win that day and number two you have your bullpen be screwed up for a couple of days and have those games be effective be affected. So yeah, I think we're kind of at a tipping point, not on the future of Tatsuya I, because that is a long-term multi-year plan. But in terms of moving forward in the near term, I think you've got to see more consistency very soon. Yeah. And it's interesting because we love having you on. You've been giving us the interesting perspective of yourself acclimating to playing in Japan. And of course, we know he's got to get ready. I mean, not ready, but he has to get
Starting point is 00:10:47 adjusted to playing here, and it's not like you can just snap your fingers and he's 100% comfortable. Even the fact that it's June and it's only been a few months, I mean, people, it can take months, if not more, a year or more, correct? It could take multiple seasons to really feel like yourself. And a lot of that has to do with just your processes. There's a lot of stuff that he was very comfortable with and how he operated on a day-to-day basis that's just not available to him now or just not able to work that. the schedule is different. The pitching schedule is different. The routine is different. So he's got to
Starting point is 00:11:21 redevelop his entire schedule and that doesn't just happen overnight. That doesn't happen over the course of a couple of weeks. So yes, it is still a long-term process and the plan was to have all of these other pieces in place to allow him to do that. But with injuries to key guys in front of him, with the team getting off to the slow start, they just, you're not really afforded that luxury anymore. Yeah. I feel like that. like if we're in a world where Hunter Brown was healthy and dealing and Christian Javier was being L. Rep. Teal and Peter Lambert was in Spencer Argetti were still doing their things. We'd be like, yeah, oh no, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm coming up. I guess we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:11:59 But Moore was put on his shoulders because of how bad everyone else was or injured everyone else was. And that's always, that's always the case. You know, when you, when you're picking nits with guys and trying to, to point fingers and figure out what's going wrong, when you're looking at a guy who's coming in to professional baseball, Major League Baseball for the first time, a guy who's coming over to America for the first time, to point to him and say, well, we needed him to be a top of the rotation type of guy. Like, that's not the plan to begin with. Even if he is as talented as he might as, you need to give him some runway.
Starting point is 00:12:34 But when your top of the rotation gets hurt and you get off to a slow start and you're expecting more from him, it's just not really a reasonable thing to do from the very beginning. Yeah, well, well, now with Hunter Brown back, and Peter Lambert continuing to pitch well. And we'll see. It's not like the wheels have fallen off Araggetti, but the dude wasn't going to have a 150 ERA all season long. So we'll see what happens there.
Starting point is 00:12:56 And then certainly, I mean, just, we're going to watch. I keep calling it collecting data. We're going to collect more data. They're going to play more games. They're going to win more or they're not. And then that's just, that's baseball. That's life. And that's the major league baseball season.
Starting point is 00:13:08 A lot of it, what you think you're going into the season with isn't always what you have. And it's certainly not what you're going to have at the end of the season. That is the big. beauty of it. Always something you have never seen before. All right, quick break here. On the Matt Thomas show with Ross, without Matt Thomas. Brian Bogusevick is hanging out until noon. We're going to talk
Starting point is 00:13:26 some heavy Astros. Of course, we can get into World Cup, anything you guys want to get to as well. Phone lines open. 713-212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-7-90. We have, I just don't get it coming up at 1130. We have the news at noon at noon. Adam Clanton at 1 o'clock. We were with you.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Hill 2. It is the Matt Thomas show with Ross here on Sports Talk 790. 10.21 a.m. here on Sports Talk 790, the Matt Thomas show with Ross. I am Ross. Matt is out. He's out in Galveston, enjoying himself. So you don't know this bogey. Brian Bogusaviken hanging out until noon. Or maybe you do. Maybe you don't. I don't know. But I've been, so I've been hosting or co-hosting with Matt since 2019. team. And I was his producer for 10 years previous to that. So I've known Matt for a very, very long time. In the time that I've been working with him, I cannot recall ever a time where he took like a week vacation and went and relaxed anywhere. Because he's got his daughter in volleyball, he's going and doing this. Like he'll take vacation time, but then he's like running around.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I've been trying to get him to go somewhere and just chill out. Take a deep breath. Don't do it. You know, the best part of vacation is where you wake up at like six and you sit on the beach for like 10 hours, make sure you got your SPF 50 on you. And you don't do anything. That's what I'm trying to get him to do. Is he doing that in Galveston right now? No chance. There's no way.
Starting point is 00:14:59 There's no way. There's no way. Jonathan, how much is Matt relaxing right now? I'll give it like a 20%. All right. Well, we just came back from Lake Charles. So we were out there for a couple of days. And I mean, we were doing some relaxing.
Starting point is 00:15:16 I don't know how relaxing is playing blackjack. I guess it can be frustrating. It depends on how you're doing. Well, we both of us came back with more funds than we left with. Oh, well, then it's a great time. So I feel, yeah, it is, it is relaxing. We got into a bad spot. He always likes to yell at people at the blackjack table for not playing right.
Starting point is 00:15:35 He didn't yell at anybody. And then he ended up making some money. So I made a little bit too. Just a little cash, a couple bucks. Yeah, then it's a nice little relaxing trip. Okay, good. So hopefully he's relaxing on Galvison. out in the next couple of days. You guys can get in phone lines.
Starting point is 00:15:49 We're talking anything you guys want to get to. 713-212-5-790 is the phone number. 7-13-212-5-7-90. So we got the Astros creeping up a little bit. I mean, it's the middle of June, so we're not... It would be nice to get like a six out of eight. It was cool when they swept the Cubs and then they beat the Rangers, what, three out of four after that. That was fun.
Starting point is 00:16:12 But kind of the way you were saying in the last segment, Bogey, is... you don't have to do it all at once. You're 35 and 41, and thankfully, again, you've got the luxury of them. The Mariners are leading the way. They're one game above 500. Yeah, that's the biggest silver lining of the early part of the season. You have the injuries, you have the slow start. And now that you're starting to get those guys back, you look up and nobody's separated themselves.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And, you know, Seattle for the last three or four years have looked on paper like they should be the team that, you know, know, is able to do that and they haven't taken advantage of opportunities. So you're going to find yourself where it's going to be all-star break on is going to be the season. And for the Astros, you just have to think just from a luck standpoint and an injury luck standpoint, you have to think that this has already been the toughest part of your season. Like it can't be worse than it was when everybody was hurt. That's what I said at the start of season, though, and then it was close to worse from last year. I feel bad for Joe Espada.
Starting point is 00:17:18 So you get the, it was a slow start in 24, and then everybody in the IEL last year, and then you know he had to be like us. It can't be worse this year, injury-wise. And then boom, all the injuries happen this year, too. Yeah, it's, that's, you can only play the cards you have. And when you're constantly losing, not just losing guys, but this year especially, losing the guys that you really need to count on, right?
Starting point is 00:17:45 Losing your shorts, stop lead off hitter, losing your a Sy Young candidate. You just cannot, you can't do anything about that. There's no levers you can pull. There's no kind of way you can structure a lineup to make up for the losses of those guys. You just
Starting point is 00:18:00 have to go out there and say, hey, this is the group that we have for now. We're going to have to try to be good enough. And hopefully we are fortunate enough that by the time we get back to full strength, we have a chance. And they've gotten to that point. Like, we are at that point.
Starting point is 00:18:16 to where the standings are still very, very manageable, and the team is just about as healthy as they're going to get. It's funny that the managers who have the fewest decisions are going to inherently be the most successful. Like, if you could just set your line up one through nine because your guys are all healthy, you're all good. We know Josh haters in the ninth. You don't have to think about that.
Starting point is 00:18:36 You know, if and when Brian a brave, who's at his best, eighth. You don't have, the better a team is, the less you have to think, the more successful your team is going to be, and the more people are going to be, man, this manager is great. You could just look at how many iterations of a lineup a team has had over the year and just know what the situation has been.
Starting point is 00:18:54 If you're constantly trying to figure out what is your six through nine in the order and who's playing what position and playing all these different matchups and guys in and out of the lineup, it's not been an easy job. And it certainly hasn't been that for Joe. Yeah, easier now with Hayter at the back end. And he did give up a run, but he played back to back. He pitched in back-to-back days for the first time, but despite the solo shot, he's just been spectacular. He's been awesome. And you knew that getting him back would be a huge boost. You knew that it would kind of settle things, right?
Starting point is 00:19:27 You build your bullpen from the ninth inning and work backwards. So having that lockdown settles everything just a little bit more. What you didn't know, anytime a guy has a long layoff like that, he comes back, and of course he is Josh Hader, but is he going to be rusty? is he going to be a little bit too amped up? And he's been not just good, but he's just been so sharp. There haven't been, you know, pitch execution issues. It hasn't been pitches showing up. It's been on the edges.
Starting point is 00:19:56 It's been nasty. The slider's been great. And it's not just been, we got Josh Haderback. That's great. It's we have a lockdown, one of the best closers in the league. If we have a lead going into the ninth inning, we know that's a win type of guy. And that was a long bill. build back. You know, you just look at how many minor league rehab outings he had, how long the
Starting point is 00:20:18 process was. And, you know, looking back at it now in retrospect, seeing how sharp he's been from day one, because they knew they knew they needed him to step into that closer roll. It wasn't, if Brian Abreu had been having the kind of season that we thought he was going to have, you maybe could have brought Hayter back a little bit earlier and eased him into it. But they knew it was, you got to be in the ninth inning from day one, and we can't afford to lose those games, so you give him a couple extra outings and have that guy come back right away. You think he ever gets four outs this season? Do you ever think he ever gets six outs this season? TBD. It's certainly going to be something that will have to be explored. If it's,
Starting point is 00:20:55 if it's the middle of September and it's one game in the standings, I know for a fact that Josh Hader will walk into Joe's office and say, I got whatever, whatever you need. But they're not going to do that until they have to, because you cannot afford to lose him again. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Brian Bogosevic is here hanging out. See a couple of you guys just called in. We will get to you in the next segment.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I promise. Phone lines open at 713, 212-1-790. 7-1-3-212-5-7-90. Adam Clanton hanging out starting at 1 o'clock. Bogie's here till noon. I just don't get it at 1130. And you guys at 7-13-212-5-790. 1033 AM here on Sports Talk 790.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Rosvia Rie out with you. Matt Thomas is out vacationing in a beautiful historic Galveston, Texas for the next couple of days and I think the weekend as well as he is hopefully relaxing and taking it easy. We called in Brian Bogusevich out of the bully. So Matt scratched from the start,
Starting point is 00:22:04 so we need two hours out of you. You can give it to us, Brian. I got that. Yeah, I got it. I know you do. All right, 713, 212-790 is the phone number. 713-212-5-790. We were talking some about how it's getting a little bit easier for Joe Spada with Josh Hader now into the fold. But what do we make of Brian Abrae you and where he's at?
Starting point is 00:22:28 Because he has been better. What's going on with the mixing in the cutter? Why is he doing that? How is that helping him? And how do we just feel about him not only right now, but potentially going forward? Well, it's just trying to find things that work and trying to find things that can make you a little bit more effective. You know, when he's at his best, he's a extreme swing and miss, overpowering. I'm just going to blow you away type of pitcher, right? Power fastball, power slider, you're not going to hit it, even though you know what's coming. The cutter is kind of a zag to that whole philosophy.
Starting point is 00:23:05 A cutter is a pitch to contact. You know, I'm going to be into the zone. I want you to swing and make contact. but I'm going to try to stay off the barrel, right? So it's just kind of recognizing that I'm not striking out as many guys as usual. I don't have the overpowering stuff that I'm used to having. So now I've got to find a way to survive and adjust. And if you can have something that you can, you know, get back into counts with when you start off behind or have a pitch that you can maybe get quickouts with, it's just, you know, another weapon at his disposal not having.
Starting point is 00:23:42 the weapons that he typically has. What goes into that, like, if, where do you draw the line between we're kind of panicking and we're doing too much and we need to stick with what works or what's going, it's so bad that something, the things are going so bad, we'll try anything because it's the middle of the season. Well, you know, obviously the plan A for Brian Abrae is try to find the mechanics that will allow him to have the stuff that he typically has. But, you know, when you're standing on a mound, you're very, very aware of what you've got that day and how hitters are reacting to it and how it's going to work.
Starting point is 00:24:23 And if you're standing out there feeling like, man, that fastball that usually gets by guys isn't getting by. And the slider that usually fools them is not fooling anybody. You know very quickly that I need maybe a little bit something else. So it's a fine line, but at the same time, it's not like this, these big aha moments of, we just need to burn it down and start over. It's just minor adjustments of like, hey, I didn't have a fastball that was blowing guys away. So maybe I need a little bit of movement to just try to jump off the barrel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:54 All right. Well, hopefully it can continue to work because, I mean, if we keep talking about things that need to happen for the Astros to turn this around, and A, B, C, D, one of them coming back, of course, the big one was Hunter Brown coming back and being effective. Somewhere down that list, wherever you put it, it's going to be Brian Abraeu being Brian of Brayu. Yeah, and I don't know that he, I don't know that they necessarily need him to be, you know, top 10 reliever and all of baseball, which he's been. Certainly that would be very helpful.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Cool. I'd like it. With Josh Hader being what he is, which is a lockdown ninth inning guy and having the emergence of King and Dela Santos together with being comfortable with them at the end of games and them having the the left-handed right-handed option where they're basically two guys for one job and you can you can put them seventh eighth or flip-flop that that kind of eases it a little bit but yeah it would be nice to be able to just sit there and say ninth inning we got it covered eighth inning we got it covered and know who those individual
Starting point is 00:25:58 guys are but it's just more mix and match in that eighth inning well come on brian we're all counting on you not you a bray you what we Kent on you too. He matters a lot more. Makes a little bit more money, too. So arbitration went well for him. All right, 713, 212, 5790 is the phone number. 713-212-570.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Stephen in Los Angeles, first up here on the Matt Thomas show with Ross. What's up, Steven? Hey, guys. I hope you're going well today. I heard you guys talking about EMI a little earlier, and you know, I feel like I've been pretty patient with him, you know, so
Starting point is 00:26:38 far this season. But if we're keeping it real, what happened in Kansas City really pissed me off. And that's the type of thing that just can't happen, you know? And I think what's
Starting point is 00:26:54 been the most frustrating from just a fan's perspective is just the, it's kind of the excuses that have come along with it. And I'm not saying that, you know, being immersed in a different culture is easy, but I mean, he's far from the only international player in this league, you know.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And it's not like the balls are square, you know, and the mound is 90 feet away, you know. It's like he's being very well compensated for coming here. And I'm not saying that the results have to be phenomenal, but, you know, you're given a nine-run lead in the first inning, which is a gift. You know, even when you don't have your A-stuff, which he clearly didn't have that game, you've got to suck it up and just throw strikes and give your team three or four innings so that you don't completely debilitate your bullpen for the next two or three days, which is what ended up happening. So I'm so obviously willing to give him the benefit of the doubt long term,
Starting point is 00:27:58 because I think his stuff is there, but it just, you know, the honeymoon phase, as I say, is really starting to run out on me with him and need to start seeing some consistent results if he's going to be, you know, being able to help this team. So I appreciate the call, guys, and I'll listen on the other end. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I think the thing that's been the most frustrating in the whole thing, it's the wild swings, right? I would, as cool as the no-hitter was and as fun as those games are, you would trade that extreme outcome to not have the extreme outcomes the other way, to just have a guy who would go out there and be counted on to give you four to six innings and between two runs and four runs every time out. You would trade that off for the wild swings of he looks great like potential ace versus it's a total disaster and we squandered a nine run lead in the first inning.
Starting point is 00:29:10 That's the most frustrating part about it. He did recognize but also downplayed it in his excuse after the game. How much does it matter when you have the nine run first inning? I mean, mentally it kind of messes things up in your mind and how much does it matter, at least even just from the time of sitting there cooling off in the dugout. Long innings do affect pitchers, right? It kind of throws off the rhythm.
Starting point is 00:29:40 They cool down. They sit for a long time. You have a 25, 30-minute inning. Yes, that definitely does affect you. But you will trade that any day of the week for a whole bunch of runs. Like the piece of mind. And to start off a game, before you ever set foot on the mound, to have essentially what looked like the game be wrapped up and over. and all you got to do is go out there and throw some better version of batting practice
Starting point is 00:30:08 and let your guys behind you catch the ball, you would make that trade-off. And obviously, it was just a misread of the situation, right? Scrap, take whatever the scouting report was before the game, throw that away. The goal is now, how many outs can I get? How many out, how far can I go into this game? If I give up two, if I give up five, if I give up six, so what. I'm going to try to get six innings, maybe sevennings. That's what the plan became and obviously just a misrecognition.
Starting point is 00:30:41 All right. Quick break here. Jason, we see you on hold. We'll get to you next. 713-212-5-790 is the phone number if you want to get in. 7-13-2-125-7-90. I just don't get it. It's coming up at 1130. Adam Clanton will be hanging out at 1 o'clock.
Starting point is 00:30:56 We got Brian Bogussevick until noon. So you guys want to talk Astros or any. anything. You want to get to 713, 212, 5, 790. 10.49 in the a.m. here on Sports Talk 790. We are 10 minutes away.
Starting point is 00:31:28 From Chechia versus South Africa. You know, you throw the record books out. When you get Chechia and South Africa together, you never know what's going to happen, Bogie. I assure you that I do not know what's going to happen. Yeah. Let's see. Also throw the record books out when it's Switzerland and Bosnia, Ursa Govina.
Starting point is 00:31:49 When did Herzegovina get added? Back in my day, it was just Bosnia. I mean, I'm wishing them all the best in Herzegovina. Yeah, combined team, I don't know. And then Canada and Qatar, and then Mexico, South Korea. That should be a good one. Yeah, I think I'm going to try to be out in the streets for that one. I should get some good atmosphere going for Mexico and South Korea.
Starting point is 00:32:12 that's at 8 o'clock tonight in World Cup action. All right, fall lines open at 713, 212, 1,790. 713, 212, 5, 790. We've been talking a lot of Ashros, of course. Brian Bogussevick into the fold. Matt Thomas is out until Monday. Jason, in Conroe has rung in. Let's go ahead and get him.
Starting point is 00:32:30 What's up, Jason? Oh, yeah, we're ready for tonight. My wife is South Green and our best friends from Mexico. Oh, they're not going to throw hands or anything, are they, Jason? No. No, no, no, no. We're just going to have a lot of fun tonight, and I'll say that much. All right, that sounds like fun.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Before I get to, I wanted to call it and talk about a spot of it, I also have seen something last night on TV that was very interesting, so I kind of have a question at the end of what I'm going to say. I'm not going to sit here and pretend I'm a manager. I'm just a fan of the game, and I kind of feel like I have a good IQ for baseball. and you know, you're right. Joe Espada has caught some bad breaks when it comes to injuries, but at the same time,
Starting point is 00:33:20 great managers know how to deal with the injuries, and they know how to win with the injuries, and I'm not going to sit here and blame him because he's not the one that goes out there and does the production on the field, but it's just like I feel like when I'm watching him, talk about the players that bring up. it's like he's like he's being told about these players not actually physically seeing them
Starting point is 00:33:46 like the things when he breaks down certain things it's like it's just you kind of get confused what do you mean what players like who like just players from the minor league i guess what i'm saying like he's not familiar it's like he's not familiar with the minor leagues i guess it's what i'm saying well they got reynel degado from like the raisin he was up in like two days I don't know how much film he could have broke down on him. I don't know whose decision that was. Like I said, I'm not a skipper. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:15 But anyway. I will say, Jason, as far as I know, because, I mean, we have Joe Espada on every week, and he's always talking about watching tape on minor league guys. Bogie? Yeah, they're very familiar with their organization. I mean, you cannot have a pulse on the entirety of five affiliates of 30 teams. So when you're bringing in guys from the, you know, when Braden's shoe, make comes in and he was in Scranton last
Starting point is 00:34:40 week. I don't know that you're up to date on what he's been doing there, but you know you get your reports, you lean on your scouting department, you lean on your front office, and then you make decisions based on that. All right, yeah, I wasn't hanging up on you there, Jason, but we appreciate you making the call. It just seems like to me
Starting point is 00:34:56 that he is, of course he gets scouting reports, and of course he's reading off of those, but he's also getting those from reliable eyes. He can't break down tape of every single picture of every single level of the minor league. It's an organization for a reason. You have people who are in charge
Starting point is 00:35:13 of pro-stouting. They're organized, and they call it an organization. I like that. And you have meetings and you get reports and you're brought up to date on people. But also remember, Joe Spot has been in professional baseball for a very long time and a lot of different roles. And he does have a player development background. And he's familiar with
Starting point is 00:35:34 minor league organizations. And he's got a very good pulse on what they have in their organization all the way from the bottom up and tracking guys throughout the course of their career. So by the time they get to the big leagues, the guys who have been in the organization, they're very familiar with these players when they arrive and they've seen them in spring training. All these guys who are coming up for the first time, it's very rare. Zach Cole last year was an extreme rarity where it was a guy who had gotten called up to the big leagues without
Starting point is 00:36:06 ever ever having been in a major league spring training that almost never happens they have eyes they have eyes on guys for years before they ever get here yes skyrocketing is that cole that was fun times all spring training too where we believe he believed he was going to contribute but he didn't that's fine hon and denver what's up or is it hans yes hans what's up how are you guys doing today i'm doing great how are things in denver uh nice nice in like 75 degrees and all right shut you know what shut up never mind Never mind, Hans. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Well, thanks for covering today these few days. This question is Ross. I really appreciate your expectation. Uh-huh. Bogie knows more. For sure. I think so. So basically, I've seen this happen more recently with using shutdown closers and not only with the Astros.
Starting point is 00:36:54 So the question I have is, why do you generally use your shutdown closer? And Josh Hayter is our example, is when the game is tied or they're behind. and especially on the road, I've seen it several times, like bottom of the night, is the goal just getting the getting to extras or hoping for the best? To me, the most logical explanation would be, hey, if we get to extras and we get to lead and, you know, top of the half of the inning, then you bring in your shutdown closer. Is it a timing issue? And I just have all this kind of questions that every time that happens,
Starting point is 00:37:29 I just ask, like, why are they using this guy now? the goal is to shut the game down the bottom of a tenth or 11th or whatever. So I hope Brian has, I'm sure he has some great expertise on this. I will call with my U.S.-Australia information tomorrow. I will hang up and listen, and thanks for another great show. So in general, there's a different philosophy if you're the home team versus the road team, right? If you're going to be closing out a game in the bottom of the inning with a lead, you're saving your closer for that situation
Starting point is 00:38:04 and it's so different on the road. A lot of it has to do also though with when you're talking about end of game getting into extra endings just who's available at that given time. You know, if you're going through situations where different players are unavailable because they've been overused
Starting point is 00:38:23 or, you know, guys have, you've had to cover a lot of innings with the bullpen already. Sometimes you just have to throw guys. The situation that the Astros were in too often the first couple months of the season was we just need somebody to throw, right? It wasn't who's available for a specific role. It wasn't what is the best matchup for this inning? It's we've had to cover six innings with our bullpen today. And the next guy up is so and so.
Starting point is 00:38:53 So that probably has a lot to do with it. Yes, there is a structure that you would prefer to use if everything is, orderly and available to you, but that has not always been the case. That won't always be the case during the course of a season that hasn't always been the case often this year. So some of the usage this year has just been on who's available. Yeah, it's just, as with anything in life, it depends. That's the answer. Yeah, and if we were talking about one specific game, you could walk through the logic of why you use people in certain situations.
Starting point is 00:39:31 But just as a general concept of why are people being used in certain situations, especially early on this season, if it looked odd, it was probably just that was a guy who was available to pitch. Hopefully things obviously stabilized a little bit more with Josh Hader back into the fold. And maybe Brian Bric can turn some things around. All right, quick break here. Hour number one in the books already somehow. Went by pretty quick here on the Matt Thomas show with Ross without Matt Thomas. Brian Bogussevik is hanging out for the next hour.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I will ask him, but we're going to kind of lay out, what is the scenarios for the a show is to turn these around and how likely are these scenarios coming up at the top of the hour. So make sure you stay tuned for that. We also have I Just Don't Get it coming up at 1130. This is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. Back to the Matt Thomas show with Ross here on Sports Talk 790 without Matt Thomas.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Brian Bogussevik is hanging out for a couple of hours. We sure do appreciate him. Right now, Chechia and South Africa getting started. We've been talking a lot of Astros, of course, with Bogie in the Fold as well. And we are your home for your Houston Astros here on Sports Talk 790. Phone lines open at 713-212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-7-90. So the Astros win yesterday over the Tigers.
Starting point is 00:41:10 They won the series. Peter Lambert was good. you're now three and a half games back in the American League West, even though you do have to hop the Rangers, A's, and the Mariners. And things are hoping, don't want to overreact, Bill. We were talking about this in the first hour. Like how many times would we say, hey, maybe they're turning the corner here.
Starting point is 00:41:28 But you got your big dog back in Hunter Brown. That to me is getting him back in the fold. And of course, pitching well is like the first thing that has to click into place for the Astros to make a big turnaround. Yeah, that's probably, you know, Hunter from a pitching standpoint, Yordon, from an offensive standpoint, those are the two most important players to the team, right? It doesn't, the team does not work as it should if those two guys aren't in the mix. Those are the things that you don't want to have to live without.
Starting point is 00:42:01 And having Hunter at the top, everything falls into place around him. And, you know, we touched on the Mike Burroughs start being skipped and how is the rotation going to work? Is it a five man? Is it a six man? and what are we going to do? All of that, it's all Hunter Brown-centric and focused on how do we maximize this awesome pitcher that we have.
Starting point is 00:42:21 So, yes, that is the first thing you need back in the fold to then start trying to pull levers of how do we maximize the team. So everything else that kind of, so let's just stick with a rotation quickly that has to kind of fall in place. And then just the likelihood, Peter Lambert, really good yesterday. That has to continue. And we're talking about a guy who, I mean, is coming from Japan. How much can we predict that that's still going to happen?
Starting point is 00:42:45 And then Arredetti will say as well as a guy who career ERA around four and a half five, but he's been spectacular this season. How are we feeling about both of those guys needing to continue to pitch at the level they are as well? Well, you certainly need them to continue pitching well because you need a middle of the rotation, right? You know what you have at the top, right? We know Hunter is an ace. And we know that there is now with guys being healthy. We know that there is a good bit of depth in the rotation.
Starting point is 00:43:13 So you can fill out the back of the rotation. But you need guys to emerge or function as or just be number twos and number threes. And that's exactly, I mean, Spencer Arreddy has pitched like an ace up until this point. You know, his stuff has always kind of profile. If you go on the fan graphs type websites and they have all of the stuff pro, stuff grading and all the, he actually double stuff grades out as a number. two, maybe number three type starter. He's got that good of stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:44 And so to think that he can settle in as the guy behind Hunter in the rotation, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to think. And if it's Peter Lambert right now, can Tetsuya I get some things figured out? Because when he's been good,
Starting point is 00:44:00 he's looked like he's the middle of the rotation type of thing. So you just need guys in the mix. People have to be pitching well in order to, because there's always going to be guys who are hot, they're going to guys who are cold, but as long as you have Hunter at the top and some guys pitching well in the middle, and you can just kind of float through it.
Starting point is 00:44:16 All right, so we got Hunter Brown, the high, the premium stock, and then we have Aragetti Lambert, hopefully, like the mid to high. What about our stocks on Tatsu Ma'i and then Mike Burroughs, who's now, I mean, he just he had that seven-inning shutout start against the Reds. He had
Starting point is 00:44:32 another start where it was like seven innings, a two-run ball, so we've seen it here and there, but the long ball just been crushing. Yeah, it's certainly in there. We've seen it at times. And, you know, if you look at velocity numbers, if you look at spin numbers, it's quality stuff. It just hasn't worked. And location has been a problem.
Starting point is 00:44:52 You know, fastball location has been a problem. There's been issues with walks at times. You can't give up a lot of home runs and a lot of walks. That's a bad mix. It's also him trying to figure out what kind of pitcher he is. If you go back and look at Mike Burroughs' career, not just big. league career, minor league career. He hasn't pitched a whole lot. He had less than 300 innings coming into his big league career. You know, 2020 was a missed minor league season. He had an
Starting point is 00:45:20 entire year, I think it was 23 where he didn't pitch. He's never really had a full season. He's never really had, he's always been working back from something, never just like working through a season. So he's still very, very early in his development. But he's, you know, like many of the guys on this Astros roster, like he's going to have to figure it out at the big league level. Or, I mean, he has options, I believe. Yes, of course, he's very young in his career. But what do you think possible a send-down if you get Christian Javier back? If, I mean, Lance McCullors Jr., I guess, is throwing bullpins now.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I don't know what we're putting. We're talking about real level, low-level. I don't want to call him junk bonds. That feels rude. but the extremely lower level like really not expecting a whole lot out of especially McCullors but Javier to me is just a huge question mark
Starting point is 00:46:15 who's never been the same since coming back from Tommy John no and you know getting Christian Javier back obviously it's a boost but what is it a boost too is it a boost to that middle top of the rotation or is it another guy to mix in and be solid at the back end and you know it's time will tell
Starting point is 00:46:31 and you'll have to you'll have to kind of figure it out as you go but you know for Burroughs you know, there's the mechanical stuff that has come up and can he work through some things and figure it out. I think this move to the bullpen for at least the short term, it might be easier to work through some things, right? When you're on a five-day or six-day rotation and it's all a build-up towards your start, there's not a whole lot of time for workday type of sessions, right? You're either recovering from the previous start or you're building up and getting ready. for the next start, you know, for a week or so as a reliever, if you're not going to be counted on to throw big innings,
Starting point is 00:47:12 he can go out there before the games and have workdays and throw bullpens, get off the mound, try to work on some mechanical things and get them sorted out. So, you know, that's kind of what they're counting on right now because, you know, it's one of those things where getting him right is really the only option. Yeah, it feels like, I mean, you just, especially because of Hunter Brown and his injury, kind of what we were talking about, the, the expectations got, shouldered more by everyone, including Emi, including Mike Burroughs, like the, the pressure turned up on everyone once you had the injuries of to where we were, remember the good old days?
Starting point is 00:47:47 We were like, oh, pitching depth. Oh, if this doesn't work out, they got this guy, they got Burroughs, they got Jason Alexander, they got whoever else, all these pitching guy, all these depth, they're going to have no issues with the starting rotation plug in the holes. Issues get magnified when there's a lot of issues, right? If you have one guy who's working through some stuff and not feeling great and not producing, but you have four other guys in the rotation who are lights out and going six, seven innings every time, it makes up for it.
Starting point is 00:48:16 And you can kind of say, hey, that's fine. And once that guy gets it figured out, then we'll be great. But when there's four or five guys either hurt or trying to figure it out, it gets magnified. It's like your girlfriend or something. If she can't cook and she's rude and she doesn't have a job and she's, just doesn't do anything and yeah she doesn't treat you well and she hates your family like you can deal with one of those things
Starting point is 00:48:40 but all of them I think it's time to move on okay all right Pogi's like I'm staying out of that one yeah I am not touching that one with a 10 foot pole Jonathan you know what I'm saying you'll back me up I know I get you completely yeah everything's broken down never mind
Starting point is 00:48:56 all right I'm gonna stop you know what the Matt Thomas brain is infecting my brain alright let's get to you know what let's go ahead and get a cleanse with Ronnie who's been holding patiently real quick. What's up, Ronnie? Hey, guys. Appreciate y'all taking the call. Always enjoy the show. Glad Brian's in the day. Got a question specifically for Brian, and maybe you can kick someone too, Ross.
Starting point is 00:49:18 When a player's been with an organization for X amount of years, two or three years, I know he builds a lot of friendship with the guys he plays with those two or three years, because, hell, you're together more than half a two-thirds of the year. my question is when you get traded like okay let's say Brian got traded to Detroit and and you and him were big buddies in Houston when you go to Detroit to play Brian do you and the ex-astros ever hang out drink a couple beers and reminisce or is that considered taboo while they're in town no guys certainly keep in contact it's funny you know because it's it's yes and no guys are very good at compartmental ice And, you know, that comes to relationships, too. I've seen guys get traded out of a clubhouse and it's somebody you've been with for years on an everyday basis. They go over to another team. And at least for the duration of the season sometimes, it's like that guy's gone out of sight, out of mind.
Starting point is 00:50:18 But, but no, you spend so much time together, relationships run deep. And, you know, since the series just happened, you use Framber, for example. He's in this organization for whatever it was, eight, nine years. He grew up with a lot of these guys. Those relationships last beyond being teammates. They last beyond your entire playing career. And also the other thing that I think from the outside you kind of underestimate is how much contact guys have and how much time certain guys spend together in the off season.
Starting point is 00:50:50 A lot of players live in the same cities, train at the same places, and spend a ton of time together in the offseason. even if you are not teammates during the regular season. So, no, those relationships last. And if you're close with somebody on another team and you go into town, yes, guys hang out, guys go to dinner, guys. Do you think how much more do you think it's always like that, especially since like free agency or how much, or is it more of a recent thing, guys are more familiar and nicer and money's bigger and sharing agents and stuff like that?
Starting point is 00:51:27 I think it's, I think it is newer. It's not, it's not recent, recent, but yes, there are a couple generations ago where, you know, you didn't talk to guys on the other team. You didn't like guys on the other team. But it was really because you never had an opportunity to get to know them. And just think about what it starts, honestly, it starts at the youth level. And it's across all sports. It's not just baseball. These guys who are the best players in the world right now are oftentimes the best players when they were younger.
Starting point is 00:51:57 So they've known each other since high school. They've known each other since travel ball. They've probably played together at some point, been at a showcase together at some point. So these relationships go back a long way. There's more moving from team to team now with free agency than there's ever been. So yeah, it's probably a little bit more of a recent phenomenon for guys to be so close. you know, the off-season work is consolidated into and concentrated in a handful of places. So there's more crossover and getting to know each other in the off-season than just going home to your hometown and working out at your high school like people used to do.
Starting point is 00:52:37 So, yeah, it's probably the relationships across baseball and across sports are probably stronger now, I would think, than they've ever been. Yeah. All right, there you go. Brian Bogosovic, a perspective only he can bring. That's what we that's what we paid the big bucks, Brian. These are big bucks? That's, well, for us. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:52:59 All right. 713, 2.12.5.7.9 is Yeah. Or no, I'm sorry. Are we doing going? Czechia? So it was, it was Czechoslovakia. Then they're like, no, bro, we're good.
Starting point is 00:53:19 It's Czech Republic and then Slovakia. Now it's Czechia? And then it's Republic of South? Because I see an R in there. Republic of South Africa? It's our essay. This is very confusing. I'm learning a lot about the world geography
Starting point is 00:53:33 in the World Cup this year. Yeah, I haven't kept up with my Eastern European geopolitical landscape here originally. I thought that was your major at Tulane. What was your major at Tulane? Baseball. Okay. All right, that's nice.
Starting point is 00:53:47 You got your degree in baseball? It worked. It worked out for you, I'd say. And it landed you here at the IHeart Studios in Houston. You're welcome. What a path it's been. Should have gone into engineering or something. Why are you? I am number one.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Why are you giving me a finger here? Brian? All right. I'm just kidding. All right. Brian Bogusevics here until noon. You guys want to get in. Phone lines are open. It's 713-212-5-7-99.
Starting point is 00:54:12 7-1-3-21-2-5-7-90. I want to remind you guys have been hearing the promos. We're going to be out there. It'll be me. I know Dan Matthews is coming. Chris Gordy is coming. Brian Bogus-Evick said it's a stay-away. We need to get you out there, too, Jonathan.
Starting point is 00:54:24 After the show. Come down and watch USA versus Australia. you. Poor behavior in Midtown. That's P-O-U-R on Travis Street. You're going to come hang out, Jonathan, or it's looking like a no? Oh, he's got, oh, the mom. Yeah, the family obligation. Oh, yeah, the mom, you need to pick her up from the, yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, that old story, whatever. That's fine. All right, Jonathan's not going to make it. You guys should all come out. Poor behavior, Midtown. We're going to start the show there at 10 a.m. Then at 1.30, we are going to switch into USA versus Australia mode because we've been carrying. the USA games here on Sports Talk 790 and IHeartMedia.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Broadcast starts at 2 o'clock, but we will be hanging out for the watch party, so make sure you guys come out. Poor behavior in Midtown, 2 o'clock. United States versus Australia. We'll be there with the show starting at 10 a.m. That should be a fun time, so make sure you guys come out for that. All right, 713, 212, 5, 790 is the phone number.
Starting point is 00:55:22 You guys want to get in, 713, 212, 5, 790. I'm going to go with United States trending or trading at least on Calcia as I was looking at 62%. So we're going to go with that. United States, 62% to win versus Australia. I think they're going to keep the low block defense like they did against Turkey.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Yeah, sure. And it used to be Turkey. Now it's Turkey. Well, whatever it is, I can't pronounce it. Turkey. Okay. Australia. That's easy. I'm going to try my best not to do an Australian accent, a horrible Australian accent, and say, that's not a knife. This is a knife and stuff like that tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:55:57 I can't make any promise. I can't make any promises. I'm just not going to be able. All right. 713, 2.1-2-579 is the phone number, as I said. Oh, Scott and River Oaks has a newfound love for soccer. That's what the World Cup's all about, Scott. You love you some soccer now?
Starting point is 00:56:16 I really have gained to appreciate it more. I feel like I've broken past the nobody scores so it's boring phase, which I've always been in. And I don't fully understand the strategy yet like I would with baseball, football, or basketball. But I'm starting to get it a little bit more. And, you know, the argument for people who do like it is you say, yeah, when someone does score, it makes the weight worthwhile. And I 100% agree.
Starting point is 00:56:46 In fact, after this World Cup, I've committed to, I am going to really try to watch more Premier League games. And I was bored this morning, and I had ChatGPT make me a quiz on who I should adopt as my Premier League team. Yes. And they, I don't, who knows how accurate a ChatGPT is, but they said the club that has the history, the most similar to the Astros, is Newcastle United. So I'm going to attempt to become a Newcastle United fan. Do you know anything about them? Well, I think they got bought by oil interest recently. they've been spending a ton of money, but I just don't think it's been working out.
Starting point is 00:57:26 And they just sold off their best player, Anthony Gordon, to Barcelona. So, I mean, at least you're not bandwagon hopping. Yeah. Which I did. For us, Newcastle United fans, we've been through a lot. Oh, yeah. Suffered through all. Yeah, they were the, I mean, they're a classic team for sure,
Starting point is 00:57:43 and then they've been spending more money. So you can be catching them on the up. That's not a bad pick, Scott. But, you know, I've just had so much fun in all seriousness, watching some of these games. I mean, the favorite ones that I've watched so far, I thought Brazil, Morocco, it was awesome.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Yes. I thought yesterday, obviously, England, Croatia was great, and then like the palpable choking, you felt, not choke you may not be the right word, but just the way the commentators were explaining how really bad for Portugal that tie was yesterday and just seeing how hot-beat the Congo was. I just think it's been a lot of fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:58:20 And obviously the vibes are great. Yesterday I was watching both of those games and the Astros while doing all my work stuff at the same time. So I just woke up and stay for a long time. Nice. Awesome, Scott. Yeah, we were talking, appreciate you getting in. First of all, there's like YouTube you can find, like football tactics explained in like 10 minutes. So you can find and you know a little bit of what you're looking at when it comes to like high presses, mid block, high block, low block, all that type of stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:49 So you can get into that. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll say this, too, in somebody who's been in a similar situation of gaining an appreciation for soccer, trying to find who I like, who I follow, whatever, if you can get around fans of a team or a country or whatever, whether it be find a certain country's watch party at a bar, or if you're ever traveling internationally, go to a game or go to a local bar in the town, even if it's a second or third division team somewhere,
Starting point is 00:59:25 it's a ton of fun. It's like being in a college football college town on game day. It's that kind of atmosphere. People care that much. People have grown up, you know, generation over generation with their teams and with their organizations. And it's a cool game day thing. Yeah, that's the part of it.
Starting point is 00:59:45 It's the passion. you also have to like realize the amount of skill it takes like go outside and kick a soccer ball and see how you have no clue where that thing is going and like the way that they can control the ball and they can curl the ball bend the ball dip the ball like what they can do with the ball is insane the last couple of years that i was playing i was working out at a place here in the offseason and there were a lot of women's soccer players who were in like the offseason lined up whenever their season was. And we'd do some conditioning stuff at the same time. So like baseball guys, we'd be out there running sprints or running suicides back and forth.
Starting point is 01:00:25 And the soccer players would be doing the same thing, but they'd be doing it with a ball on their foot. And I was like, man, I would break my ankle and be flat on my back if I tried to do that at all. And it was like nothing to it. And the appreciation for what they can do. That is what I never had as a guy who never played the sport growing up and watching it on TV as a kid, you know, in a grainy old box TV. I think HD TV has done a ton for soccer where you can really see what they're doing. Right. You can see most, it's like all 22 film for football. It is.
Starting point is 01:01:01 It is. It is. Wide screen lets you see more of the action and where the player movement is going to. The skill, the athleticism is just, it's crazy. Yeah, it's a way that I will tell people, like when you're trying to learn what's going on and see the game better, take your eye off the ball. You can do that in football, where you're seeing who's coming up in blitzing, who's in motion, where like don't watch the ball, watch the offensive line or whatever. Same thing in basketball. Watch who's cutting to the basket. Who's coming off the screens. Same thing with soccer. It's very similar to high-level, beautiful basketball, where you can see that everybody who's on the court or on the field.
Starting point is 01:01:39 is seeing and thinking the same stuff. And the moves are happening in real time and everybody knows what the move after the move is. Yeah, it's good stuff. It's like if they all move together as like one entity, and it's beautiful. That's why they call it a beautiful game. And obviously, look, there's bad games.
Starting point is 01:01:56 There can be nothing, nothing, boring dud games where one team's playing low block the whole time and they're just trying to get a counter and win one nothing. There's bad game. There's bad baseball games. Like the Astros can get down, like 10 to 1 in the first inning and then the game's over. Like there's
Starting point is 01:02:13 bad football games. There's bad basketball games. So I'm not saying it's all perfect in roses and sunshine and rainbows. But it is a beautiful game and you just have to kind of change your thinking a little bit to appreciate it at its best. Yeah, absolutely. And just watch.
Starting point is 01:02:29 You know, the more I watch, the more I find myself appreciating what the guys do individually, what the teams are, what the leagues are, what the tournaments are. And the World Cup is like the best of the best. And like I said, you go watch those videos on breaking down the tactics. If you don't know anything about it, you're like, oh, they're just kicking the ball around.
Starting point is 01:02:47 No, there's actually a lot more going on than you realize and certainly helps with the appreciation. And everyone hates the flopping. We all hate the flopping too. Even though I love soccer, I hate the flopping. It's so bad. I understand it's a tough hurdle for a lot of people to get over. I just, I laugh so hard. When you get the slow motion replay and you can see that nobody touched them.
Starting point is 01:03:08 that the guy didn't even get stepped on and he's just like riving on the ground. They bring out the stretcher. They're like, oh, we put the magic spray on him. He's good. Yeah. Even fans, like, we don't like flopping in basketball. We still watch basketball. There's like a compilation of Josh Allen flopping all over the place and the bills.
Starting point is 01:03:26 We still watch Josh Allen. We still watch the ball. It's all about kind of like changing your mindset and opening your mind. Do you have something in your life that you just don't get? No need to worry. No need to. We will discuss the topics to see if we comprehend The things that may confuse our friends
Starting point is 01:03:49 It's time to say action Don't you get something that is happening in your life Or in sports or wherever it may be 713-213-2-790 7-1-3-212-5-790 All right, I got to do something that I don't get The New York Knicks are having their championship parade in New York City right now.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Brian Bogusevick hanging out, Matt Thomas show with Ross without Matt Thomas. He is still out in Galveston. They're showing people climbing up light poles and climbing up like buildings and jumping up and down. Like I have been to, let's see, I went to both, I believe,
Starting point is 01:04:40 Rockets Championship parades in the 90s. I went to both, I believe, no, I was on the board for the 17-1. 22 parade I was out there. I did never think at any point Hey, you know what would be great? You know, I really show my love for this team? I'm going to climb up this light pole and act like an idiot.
Starting point is 01:04:58 I just don't get it. That's because you are a sane, reasonable person. Oh, well, let's not get crazy, but I appreciate that. Thank you. What are these people doing? And then especially Knicks fans in general, like outside of the stadium, they're getting in fights with Spurs fans. Did you see that one guy that pulled up from Philly
Starting point is 01:05:17 and he put on a Rodman jersey and he went on and tried to fight everybody in there? that? You saw it, didn't you, Jonathan? From where? Where was he from? He was from Philly. There you go. Question answered. He was pulled up like Thanos in a Rodman jersey and he was just fighting anyone who looked at him the wrong way. It was awesome. So I get that guy because he was just about that action boss. But like Nick's fans in general like ripping jerseys off of people and getting angry and now they're acting a fool
Starting point is 01:05:44 in New York because my basketball team won a game. So now I get to I get to fight everyone and climb up light poles and set stuff on fire. What are we doing? It's a 53 year old. They both a curse. I understand. Both the curse. Yeah, how about some applause? How about I buy a hat? I'm going to buy a hat and go to the parade. I'm not going to climb up a light pole.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Don't act like you get it, Jonathan. I'm trying to. I know. We like to be contrarian on this show. I like how you picked up on that. But I just don't get it. All right, what don't you get? 713, 212-7-9. Boga Sevik? What don't you get?
Starting point is 01:06:21 Yeah. All right. This is not a sports one, but I don't get... I'm excited. What are we doing with the construction here in Houston? The road construction... Was there never a time when all the people in charge of the projects were in the same room together? And they were like, hey, if we shut down your road and your road
Starting point is 01:06:42 and your road all at the same time, nobody... It should be the mayor, right? I don't... City council? I don't know. Did nobody realized that if all the roads are on? under construction that you can't get anyone. I'm driving home from a baseball game one night. Ooh, it's bad. I'm on 45.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Yes. 45's shut down. They're dumping you on to I-10. Fine. I get on to I-10. I-10's shut down. They're dumping you onto the feeder road. So now you've got everybody from both of those highways on one-lane feeder road
Starting point is 01:07:09 trying to get back to wherever they're going. I don't know what the hell's going on. No idea. I don't get it either. There has to be some kind of, there's a gross lack of communication. I think also they're trying to beautify a, everything for the World Cup. I mean, they're putting lipstick on the pig that is downtown Houston.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Like they are putting up all these light fixtures and lighting up the underpasses. So like, and now the homeless people sleeping under there are seeing purple. They're seeing purple. Yeah, they're seeing purple. Now they think they're hallucinated. They've got to go back to the homeless shelter. Doctor, I can only see purple now. Yeah, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:07:41 That's the light for the World Cup. What? All right. Well, we appreciate you, folks. Jeez, it's terrible. I'm with you. I don't get what the hell there. doing out there. You're right. Leaving the games now is a complete cluster. You know what. Thankfully, that feeder road
Starting point is 01:07:58 project on 50, like that got finished so you can at least get through because the first month I was wondering why you were talking so long. I was wondering why you were talking so long in post game. You're just trying to wait the traffic out. You couldn't wait traffic. I come out an hour and a half after the game ended and the parking lot
Starting point is 01:08:14 was still full. It's insane. It's insane. All right. Jonathan, what don't you get? Mine's going to be a sports one because I keep seeing this on Twitter and just when people call in. I do not get the spot of hate, especially what he did for the team last season. There were one game from the playoffs with holding together the team with duct tape. It was 10 times worse last season.
Starting point is 01:08:38 He still managed to get everybody going, keep the morale up in the clubhouse and manage the team just one series out. Well, Dusty Baker got hate. AJ Hinch got hate. Who knows else? I mean, well, some of the hate was deserved for some of the guys
Starting point is 01:08:52 before that. I mean, criticism might get, but just full of hating that he needs to be fired after what he's been doing and trying to manage something that no other manager
Starting point is 01:08:59 can really do right now? Well, and I also think that a lot of the criticism that comes and it's, oh, he's not doing a good job. He's not,
Starting point is 01:09:06 but like if you, I never hear anybody get real specific about it. Thank you. I never hear anybody say, hey, this move should have been done in this way
Starting point is 01:09:16 and that was a mismanagement of it. It's just like, oh, the team's not where I think they're supposed to be. It must be the manager's fault. It's just easy. This is what I never heard yesterday. They won two games in a row. Where's the, hey, go, Joe, Spott.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Hey, great job. We never get the call. Great job the last two games, Joe. Joe did great last two games, didn't he? Be getting blamed for the losses. He's got to get credit for the wins. There's a disconnect here. And I'm not trying to be biased or nothing.
Starting point is 01:09:41 But, man, like, at Spott, he's done so much good rather than the bad he's done. Yeah. And I think that's so. that's where I feel bad about him. You know you lose, but, dude, like, he's done a lot to where he's got, like, the cards that got handed to. So, yeah. 1149 in the A.m. here on Sports Talk 790.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Final segment with Brian Bogus Sevik. He has been gracious enough to hang out, and it's really flown by. Bogie, thanks again for hanging out. Oh. I'll thank you at the end of the second. You're the man. And also, you're getting a vote for mayor from Pedro. Pedro says, Boge for mayor.
Starting point is 01:10:15 My guy's kind of get the anti-construction stance. Anti-construction stance. Yes. We will build nothing new. Well, I don't know for that. We'll at least dose it out correctly to where not every single highway and the whole town is under construction. So there you go. You got at least one vote for mayor. All right. He's hanging out until noon. We got news and noon coming up. We have I just don't get it.
Starting point is 01:10:37 713-2125790. What don't you get Brian in Pearland? Hey, good afternoon. Good morning, guys. What I don't get is, and I've been curious. know, Bogie's thoughts on this, why the D.H in baseball only has to be reserved for a pitcher? If you got a guy like Otani who can hold his own with the bat, why can't he hit as a pitcher and use that for maybe a Caesar Salazar type who can barely hold his weight, you know, hitting wise, great at calling a game, but why you couldn't shift that over for that game
Starting point is 01:11:14 and say, I want the D.H. to be used for my catcher who's hitting 156 or Brewer. Matthews who can't hit the weight of a toddler at home, but is hitting the weight of a sumo wrestler on the road. You know, why you couldn't move the DH round if you have a pitcher who can hit? That's what I like that. Like Zach Grinky Day? You let him hit and then you can hit for someone else? It's an interesting idea.
Starting point is 01:11:40 I just, do we want to give more advantages to the Dodgers? More unique advantages to the Dodgers? That's a good point. They're going to trade for school. Not no way. related to the doggers. But back in the day when Vibranos could hit, and Mark Mulder and
Starting point is 01:11:56 you know, some of those guys Mike Hampton used to be able to swing the bow. Like, why you can't great of the DH wasn't there back then, but why you couldn't use it on those certain situations, we're like, man, my pitcher can hold his own with the bat. I want to use it for my catcher who's struggling
Starting point is 01:12:12 right now. So it's just something I don't get why you can't move it around situationally. I guess it probably doesn't come up much, Brian, but I I get what you're, I get what he's coming from, I guess. Yeah, it makes sense. It would be, it would be kind of fun. I would, I would hate to be the guy that gets D-Hed for when the pictures hit.
Starting point is 01:12:29 O'Don. Yeah, you go outside of Otoni. If it was anybody besides O'Donnie, that would be a tough conversation to have a. You're going to the line, you're going to look at the lineup posted. You're like, what? Hey, Ross, come on in the office. We need to talk. Hunter Brown's hitting and I'm not?
Starting point is 01:12:44 You're just catching today. That's not good? Yeah, would it be like the reverse half day? You know, D.H. Day, they call it like a half day for Yorna Bay. Get off your feet. Get off your feet. Jose Altuve, give them a half day, basically. We're just going to wear you out today. If it's the catcher, yeah, if it's the catcher, you are getting worn out no matter what.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Maybe, what would you think if you were just like in left field all day? Is that still like a half day? You might not get a ball hit your way all game. That's the worst. That's my nightmare. That's my nightmare. Just defense and not get to hit. You're just getting cardio.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Yeah. You get your steps in walking in from the dugout. No, thank you. Oh, okay. Well, that's fine. All right, anything else anybody doesn't get 713, 2,1, 2, 5, 790 is the phone number 7-1-3-2-5-790. I did make a note. I do want to get this to a boke.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Because we do take a spot of calls. And I'm just curious, obviously, you as a former player with the unique perspective. Because we always argue, especially across other sports, how much it matters, what his job is. And as we were kind of saying earlier, it gets eat. The more Josh Hader's back and the more Hunter Brown's out there and the more your lineups healthy, the easier his job is and the more successful he's going to be. But what if he could be going wrong, which I'm not saying he is at all? I just can't wrap my head around about what he has the ability to do right and wrong.
Starting point is 01:14:09 I think a manager in baseball, their impact on what happens during a game, is probably overestimated by the general population, right? There are very few strings that you're pulling in the game. Obviously, there's managing a bullpen. There is, you know, pinch hit opportunities. And there's, you know, writing out a lineup on any given day. But other than that, you kind of just roll out there and players play and the results come from what the guys do.
Starting point is 01:14:42 I think, you know, it's called manager for a reason, right? And it's about managing people. And more importantly than putting your imprint on what happens on the field, it's making sure everybody is comfortable on a day-to-day basis, making sure everybody understands what their role is, and just trying to foster an environment where you can get the most out of your players. And that is much more impactful on a day-to-day basis. It is much more impactful on how a clubhouse functions and how a team functions.
Starting point is 01:15:16 and it's much more important when you have a situation like the team has had these first couple months where there's guys who are being shuttled up and down from the minor leagues. There's veteran players who are on and off the injured list and you're having to fill in for them. And how are you going to do that? And how do you communicate to these guys who aren't playing every day, who are coming in in certain situations? Does everybody know what's expected of them? Does everybody know what their role is?
Starting point is 01:15:43 Does everybody know how they're expected to prepare for those situations? So when they arise, they're in position to be successful. And that is the most important thing. And that is what I don't think a lot of people see and understand from the outside looking in. But it's also something that he's very good at. Yeah. All right. And I'm curious also, I mean, as far as the clubhouse and managing dad, that's something more.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Especially here in Houston, you leave to the players. But it's always been kind of Al-Tuve, who's been the guy. but you've lost some guys like the Bregmans and the Carlos Correa Carlos Carrey of course came back but he was a guy who was a clubhouse leader as well Yeah and there's there's tone setting in a clubhouse there's
Starting point is 01:16:26 trying to develop an identity as a team There's trying to find out who are Who are the loud voices in the clubhouse Who are the guys who are more lead by by example But at the same time just making sure Everybody is comfortable being themselves knows what's expected of them That's more that's more
Starting point is 01:16:43 that's the kind of that's the imprint that the manager can have on a team all right well that is borgassevich catch him on space city home network i'm sorry we're calling it s c hn excuse me and sce hn plus pre and post game coverage weekly guest here and filling in today with matt thomas out bogey thanks for the time man appreciate you no problem it's always fun all right two hours flew by we got two more hours of the show you guys want to get in 713 212 5 790 713 212 5 790 7 7 7 719 7 719 7 7 Adam Clanton coming to hang out at 1 o'clock, and we've got the news at noon next with Jonathan Allen. This is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross. 1201 in H-Town here on Sports Talk 790.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Hello, and welcome in to our number three of the Matt Thomas show with Ross without Matt Thomas. Matt continues to be out in Galveston, as I hope he is relaxing. You know what? I'm going to text him, Jonathan. action make sure he's relaxing sitting on the beach or getting pampered maybe a massage spa day with the wife anything
Starting point is 01:17:52 have you ever done a couple's massage with the lady no you know I've never been to a spa but you got a lot of massages as a as a track runner right yeah those those are painful though but you know there wasn't like a sick they're beating up on you yeah yeah all right well I'm sorry I'm sorry I didn't mean to trigger you right now
Starting point is 01:18:10 all right so Matt is out appreciate Brian Bogussevick hang out having out for a couple of hours. We have Adam Clanton coming in for an hour tomorrow. As I mentioned, Matt will be out tomorrow, but we will also be out. We're getting out of the cage, baby. We're going to be out poor behavior, P-O-U-R behavior.
Starting point is 01:18:28 It is 22-11 Travis in Midtown. We're going to be there starting at 10 a.m. for the Matt Thomas show with Ross. It'll be me, Chris Gordy, Dan Matthews going to be hanging out some other sports talk, 790 personalities as well. We'll be giving away prizes. We got $100 gift cards to the hat store for the first
Starting point is 01:18:44 10 people who show up to that. So you want to make sure you come by, you hang out, knock off early at work. Come on. I mean, you don't have to get there right at 10 a.m., but you know, you want to have a little fun, get a little building of the atmosphere. It is going to be Australia versus the USA at 2 p.m. Here on Sports Talk 790, because we are covering the game, we will go into coverage at 130, and then myself, Gordy, and others will be hanging out to watch the game.
Starting point is 01:19:12 So you're like, hey, man, I'm looking for a sports. to watch USA versus Australia. Tomorrow, 2 p.m. will be out there, but starting at 10 a.m. for the show, poor behavior in Midtown on Travis Street. That's poor behavior in Midtown. Tomorrow, make sure you come by and check us out. All right.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Right now, it is the time of the day where we get the top sports news items of the day. We call it the news at noon, and Jonathan Allen is bringing us the news at noon today. I don't know why I go into this voice. But that's just what I do. Go ahead. Thank you, Ross. Let's get this going. You've been under a rock. Astros took the series with the Tigers.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Thank the Lord. Finally getting there. Only three and a half. Hey, one two series in a row, baby. Hey, I'm telling you, we're getting there. It's supposed to be a better June, but we're going to take the wins when we get them. They face the Guardians tomorrow for the weekend series. How we feel about that, Ross?
Starting point is 01:20:08 I'm feeling pretty good about taking on the Guardians. Let's see. Is it Tanna, is it Tanna, Bhabi. Yeah, Tana Bhabis tomorrow against Tatsu-I-I-Mai on Friday. Hey, Mike Burroughs is ready to piggyback. Hey, don't worry, guys. If things are going well with Tatsui-I-Mai, Mike Burroughs is standing in the bully and he's at the ready. Nothing to worry about here, folks.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Then it's going to be Spencer Aragetti on Saturday and Kai Wei-Tung. Hopefully he can bounce back. Didn't even really talk about him with Bogie. That's something probably should have brought up. but Kai Wei Tung on Sunday with the Houston Astros against the Guardians who are pretty good. 39 and 35. I mean, they're not world beaters. They're tied first place in the American League Central.
Starting point is 01:20:54 I'd say overall, I'm feeling a good two out of three. You know what? You know what? You know what? Got feeling. Tatsu I'm not calling a quality start. Quality light. I might not even do that.
Starting point is 01:21:06 Okay. We're going to get the game. We're just going to win. He's going to survive, basically. I'm saying at least five innings. How about that? Five innings for Tatsu, Yemai. Give me some hope.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Let's bounce back. You did you only get two outs last time. For those of you counting at home, that's not an inning. Go ahead, Jonathan. Moving on, if you didn't get to World Cup, you busy, what the case being, Portugal and Congo tied 1-1. That was in Houston, England, 4 to 2 from versus Croatia, over there in Arlington, A&T, and Ghana versus Panama.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Ghana took that game 1-0, and Uzbekistan versus Columbia, I watched that game, Scrappy, Columbia 3-1. The stadiums have been vibrant. The games have been amazing. If you haven't checked out one of these World Cup games, man, I advise you to do so. Even if you don't know soccer, man, it's a very, just a cool feeling. It's bigger than you, man. It's just bigger than you.
Starting point is 01:21:59 You know what? I feel like here. Play this song I just put in there, Jonathan. This feels like the Around the World Update. Ah, the World Cup Update song. I like this. Yeah. Do you like this song?
Starting point is 01:22:09 You know this song? Yes, of course. You know, hey, hey, hey, hey now, you were negative six years old when this came out. It's a daft punk, though. All right, okay, I'm just making sure. You know, I don't know what the kids are into these days. We start, we're the ones that advanced techno.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Oh, here we go. No, sir. We blew it out. Okay, stop. That's been around since, like, at least the 80s. But yeah. Okay. Houston, you know, got 70,000 attendance over at NRG Stadium.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Everybody's loving energy, reality. I think we need a better appreciation. I know. The McNair's hate reliant. They wanted to be updated, but there's been all these people posting about how great of a stadium. Oh, I'm sorry, Houston Stadium. Now it's Houston. Hi, we're FIFA.
Starting point is 01:22:48 We own you. It's Houston Stadium. Yeah, they just have Houston on the thing. Yeah. But, you know, all right, so moving back on. Nicks right now are holding their championship parade, as we were talking about earlier. We got some little bit crazy. You already know how New York gets.
Starting point is 01:23:03 We didn't want the Yankees to win, but it's better than the Spurs winning, I guess. That's what Matt Thomas told me I'm on to keep it. Okay. Yeah, it's better. than the spurs. Nix fans are going nuts. They're climbing up poles. Who knows whatever the hell is going on over there in New York. But
Starting point is 01:23:17 as of this moment, they are having their parade. Congratulations to them. I feel like, yeah, it certainly was the lesser of the two evils. Nix fans were definitely doing too much and fighting everybody and getting out of control and trying to go viral and they all got their phones out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:33 Yeah, yeah, but. Houston, we'll have our opportunity when we get there. Oh, yeah. Moving around the NBA. Go Rockets go. Trey Young declined his 48 million player option to be a free agent from the Washington Wizards. Some Houston people on Twitter are speculating, but I don't think we got anything. You don't have enough money to sign him.
Starting point is 01:23:56 It would have to be some kind of signing trade situation for him. I mean, who the hell's even got $50 million of cap space to pay him? I mean, yeah, I don't know. I don't think he's coming anywhere to the West anyway. I mean... And by the way, how do we feel about Trey Young? He's a one-way player. He's good talent.
Starting point is 01:24:16 He's a guy you have to play Max. I feel like he's a winner, though. Is he a winner? Okay. You can't say he was in the Hawks, though. I mean... I'm with you. You know what?
Starting point is 01:24:26 I think it's overblown to calling people winners or not winners because they haven't won a championship. You can still be like... Like that mindset is there. You know what I mean? Right. The winning mindset.
Starting point is 01:24:34 He's come up in clutch situations. You know, Dame Lillard's hit big shots. He's never won a championship. That doesn't mean he's not a winner to me. But if we're doing, like, top, top players, his name doesn't come to mind for me. Like, when we're talking, we're talking, for example, I don't know, Shay Gilgis, or, or Nicola Yokic, or Luca Donchich, or Wimby, or I don't even know, Jalen Brunson. He's not Jalen Brunson. He's Brunson-ish.
Starting point is 01:25:07 but Brunson's gone out there and proved you could argue a couple years ago that they were like close and neck and neck I'll give you Aunt Edwards like where do I go I'm pulling up the list of the ringers top 100 Would you put him in the same conversation as Halberton maybe around that
Starting point is 01:25:21 Cade Cunningham or Trey Young That's recently he buys I think I'm still I'm going I think I'm going Cade because the defense is better He is he's crappy Donovan Mitchell or Trey Young Mitchell
Starting point is 01:25:35 But the thing is they've had Jaylon Brown or Trey Young Brown. I think you're right. Tyrese Maxie or Tray Young? Maxie. Kevin Durant or Trey Young? You know, I'm a Trey Young guy, but I think I'm going to take the 38-year-old.
Starting point is 01:25:57 Yeah, see, I'm going down the list. I don't even know where they have him on this Ringer list of Top. They have him 63rd. They got him behind Norm Powell. Okay. And Mikel Bridges. They got him behind Alex Caruso. That's why he declined.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Okay, this is a little disrespectful to have behind Alex Carruis. I mean, I appreciate Caruso. But Trey Young needs to be a little upset about this list. That's what I'm saying. He's going to turn up this season, I feel like. Okay. Maybe he will. All right, moving on.
Starting point is 01:26:28 For my golf level out there, U.S. Open has just started off. The weather's not really good over there in the hills. But check it out. We've got, you know, Scotty Shephler and, of course, Mick Elroy, the famous Irishman. Hey, what golf course are in the app? I see you see how I said the hills go ahead and say I don't know say
Starting point is 01:26:47 Shinnock Shinnock Hills so you know it's looking really bad over there I think it's even missing right now I mean and in the last some news I got for you
Starting point is 01:26:58 By the way yeah the big golf tournament Rory McElroyd trading as the favorite right now at 12% Oh you know I took my trade off He's down to 5% I took my trade out I had Scotty Shuffler
Starting point is 01:27:11 and then I was like I don't know. I feel this and I took it out. And now I'm like, it should have probably... Oh, no. Did I get you addicted? Did we get you addicted to calcium? I learned that. I'm actually, I'm up like $20. Okay. I'm doing pretty well. I'm telling you all on the way to like Charles. I was like, you know what? France is doing that high press against Senegal.
Starting point is 01:27:27 I think it's going to be over the goals. And I did quite well. Use Code 790 to get 20 when you trade 20. There you go. I'm sorry. Well, go ahead, Jonathan. And just going to rehash old news, if you haven't heard about the all the Red Raider talk and what's going on with Brandon Sorbsby. he ended up saying he was going to back away or they made a statement saying that he was going to go to the NFL supplemental draft instead of trying to compete with all this legalese and a tiny general drama going on with Cody Campbell and all that situation. It was the right call. I know tech fans got all upset and they're like and now it's coming out apparently from his agent that Cincinnati knew about all the gambling that he was. was doing and then did nothing
Starting point is 01:28:13 to curb that or whatever or tried to keep it under wraps. So we'll see what happens there. If Cincinnati's going to face some repercussions. I got a strong take-free. Tech fans are all upset. What about Cincinnati? Why want Cincinnati to get sanctioned? If Cincinnati knew and was allowing him to gamble. Guess what? If Indiana knew,
Starting point is 01:28:31 I want them sanctioned as well. We're being consistent around this. This isn't Texas Tech versus the world. Everybody hates Texas Tech. Nobody hates Texas Tech because nobody cares. Not enough. Or you know what? The only reason anybody hates Texas Tech is because Cody Campbell and the Tech fans
Starting point is 01:28:47 try to act like their hot bleep when they haven't been. Okay? That's it. You're not the victims here. You think it would be more acceptable? This was like an Alabama-LSU situation? I don't, I wonder, would they even have fought as hard as Texas Tech did? Because Tech fan will tell you if you pull them, oh, yeah, LSU would have done this, Alabama would have done this, Texas would have done this.
Starting point is 01:29:08 I'm like, I don't think so. I don't think Well I will say this There is an air of Of course superiority of people at Texas And boosters I totally am on board with that And I understand that
Starting point is 01:29:24 And I think that air of superiority Would have been the boosters In the higher ups being like You know what we're Texas We're better than this And maybe they're not better than anything Obviously haven't won in championships since 2005 But I don't think it would have happened in Texas
Starting point is 01:29:37 If you're calling me I'm just being Longhorn biased that's okay Maybe I'm wrong We're just talking about a hypothetical world, but I don't think it would have been pushed there. I don't think it would have been pushed at A&M. I don't think Alabama or who did you mention. LSU and Lane Kiffin, I could see it.
Starting point is 01:29:53 LSU, I can see it. Yeah, baby, Brenda saw I need to play now, baby. He does to put a little gambling on a tugging basketball, baby. Yeah, I could see it at LSU. I don't think of Texas and many other heritage programs. Ohio State feels like they might do that too. I can see a little Ohio State. Who knows? Who knows?
Starting point is 01:30:12 But that's my news at noon. Thank you, Jonathan. Excellent job. Thank you, thank you, thank you. All right. Jonathan Allen with the news at noon here on Sports Talk 7. And you guys want to react to any of that. We're also getting a couple of calls earlier.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Some of y'all hung up, but we were talking about this. As Brian Bogussevick has been getting into it, our caller Scott was getting into it. I'll ask Jonathan as well, how much World Cup did you think you would watch and how much are you watching? Sports 790.com slash listen. Listen to us on the IHeart Radio. You can listen to us on 94.5 HD2 as well. Of course you can listen.
Starting point is 01:30:53 The good old fashioned way, 790 a.m. Sports Talk 790 is the radio station. The phone number is 713, 212, 577. 713-212-5-790. Ross v. Real. With you, Jonathan Allen as well. Brian Bogusevich joined in the first couple of hours, and we'll have Adam Clanton coming up at 1 p.m.
Starting point is 01:31:20 So you guys want to get in. You can right now co-host for a couple of minutes. 713-212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-790. You can also follow me on the Instagram. I'm trying to... Has Matt put up any pictures of the beach? He said he was going to do that.
Starting point is 01:31:36 I'm on... I'm referencing Twitter. He's going to have to slap some filters on some of those. Do we want him on his phone? I think we need him just to be completely... I try to get it. I tried to, but... It is what it is.
Starting point is 01:31:50 All right. 713-212-5-790. As I said, I was asking you guys, if you wanted to get on, how much World Cup did you think you were going to watch? How much have you watched? I'm going to say me personally, like I'm watching right now.
Starting point is 01:32:03 You've got check you up on the Republic of South Africa 1-0. I thought I was going to watch a good amount. I've been watching even more than I thought. And I think especially it's because it's the group stage right now, and there's always a game on. You don't always know who's playing on. But for the most part, there's like a game started at 11.
Starting point is 01:32:21 There's a game at 2. There's a game at 5. Every three hours, basically, a game is started. Later on today, Switzerland, Bosnia, Canada, Qatar. Mexico, South Korea should be a good one coming up at 8 o'clock. Tomorrow, of course, we have the watch party at Poor Behavior for United States, Australia at 2 p.m. So you've had all the games on that have been on at one time.
Starting point is 01:32:43 And it's like it's almost like the NCAA tournament in a way we're like, you know, Jonathan, we don't know who's on High Point University. I don't know who plays for Lehigh. I know it says Lehigh on their jersey. And it's a winner. It's not in the group stages in a winner take all. But the stakes are higher. It's like a playoff game.
Starting point is 01:33:02 Every goal matters. Every goal is so important that you don't want to give up. and that level of tension and impact on every game and every score, I think makes it that much more compelling. Like, I was watching last night, it was probably the first time I really sat and watched the game. It was back to stand in Columbia, man, from the stuff, I had to look up some research.
Starting point is 01:33:26 I didn't really know where Uzbekistan was. I was like, okay, let me get some history effects. And these guys are, I'm saying, this is their whole life that depends on just getting the possession. I was sitting here. Like, this is so scrappy. Even Columbia, they weren't taking money. Columbia, I like to scrap too.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Yeah, I was like, people go dropping the floor. And it was probably the first soccer game I watched that there wasn't flopping. There were real people dropping hit the ground. That's the thing, too. Yeah, it depends on the country. It depends on the player. Some flop more than others, of course. It's like basketball.
Starting point is 01:33:56 Shea Gilgis Alexander is flopping down on the ground every single time he touches the ball. Some guys, like Aunt Edwards, who refused to flop. Now, maybe he does here and there. You sell calls as well. And that's the thing too is like the only reason people flop is because it works. But people don't like it. And I understand it can be definitely a mental block for people who want to get into it because the guys roll around on the ground. They scream like they've been murdered or shot.
Starting point is 01:34:22 It happens in a lot of sports and certainly happens a lot in soccer. But you said the Colombians and the Uzbeks weren't having it. Oh, dude. You know, and it's crazy. I think it's so cool about the World Cup. seeing how athletes from different countries look and how like what they're better
Starting point is 01:34:41 at. Like, you know, the Uzbeks were more let's say, you know, conservative, more possessing or... More organized? Yeah, and then Columbia was more so because I don't really know, but it's more so... Like free-flowing? Yeah, I got my start. Like, every single one of them can get to the pitch, the box, by themselves
Starting point is 01:34:58 that needed to. You know, Uzbeks had that more team chemistry going on. That's how they knew they were going to be able to win, but, you know. Yeah, and you can have different styles. I mean, Spanish-style football is they call it Tikitaka. You're playing through balls. You're playing one-two-touch football and trying to move the ball around that way, playing more possession.
Starting point is 01:35:15 So that's what makes it so compelling and so fun. And I definitely have been watching, I've been watching even more than I thought I was. And I'm saying that as a guy who's a Premier League fan I've been a Manchester City fan now since 2015, it's been
Starting point is 01:35:30 great. When Messi and Ronaldo were in their primes, I would watch every single one of their games. and I've really been impressed with it. So I just hope it keeps going. And then once you get to the knockout stages, I mean, unless every game's like 5 to 1 or something, which is not going to be, that's just the nature of the sport.
Starting point is 01:35:46 Like games, it's almost always, I would say the majority of the game is within one goal. It's just fun, man. It's been really impressive. All right, quick break here on the Matt Thomas show with Ross, without Matt Thomas. You guys want to get in on the phone lines. You can.
Starting point is 01:35:59 713-212-5-790. 7-13-212-5-6. 790. We've been talking about the World Cup. We've been talking about baseball. Astros win a couple of games in a row against the Tigers. They have now won their last two series. Two out of three ain't bad. And they won two out of three series against the last place teams being the Angels or about last place, which is what the Tigers are.
Starting point is 01:36:21 I don't know exactly where they are right now. Royals and Tigers. Yeah, tigers are a half game ahead of the Royals in last place from last place in the American League Central. So we're talking some Astros. We're talking to some World Cup. We're talking some college football. We were talking about Brendan Sorsby earlier as well. Nicks are having their parade as well.
Starting point is 01:36:40 Trey Young has opted out for the Wizards. Anything you guys want to get to, 713-212-5-790. The phone number 7-13-212-5-7-90. Oh, it's time for a hydration break. Put your fours up, baby. Fourth quarter, we should take hydration break. Well, I guess I do drink during the break.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Okay, not alcohol. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, water, hydration. I'm on the, I'm on the gator. rate thirst quencher right now. Look, I'm going to be honest, when I was in Lake Charles the last couple of days, Jonathan, the hydration wasn't great. Red Bulls, coffees, I don't think I drank any alcohol that I can recall.
Starting point is 01:37:25 Water was, yeah, I wasn't drinking enough water. Then my calves started to tighten up in the middle of the night. Stakes for made. I know, rookie stuff, I know. I'm not to get a chart. Yeah, you know what, like a hydration chart? Like Tom Herman? Like I'm a bad teammate? Yes. And you have to do it?
Starting point is 01:37:41 With orange pee? You know, that's crazy. I didn't know Tom Herman made that, and when y'all sat on air, I was like, that's everywhere and every athletic bathroom I've ever been in. Oh, really? West Kentucky, it's everywhere, like on top of the journals and everything. Oh, okay. That's good, actually, because that makes me feel better because people really made fun of Tom Herman about it.
Starting point is 01:37:58 Well, is it labeled, like, bad teammate and stuff like that? Yes, if it's a red, you're a horrible teammate. This is, like, you know, they... Red means go to the emergency room. You're not get that checked out. Like, yeah. Yeah, you might have a kidney. failure, dude. I'm going to get that
Starting point is 01:38:13 checked out. Yeah, so there's a hydration, but there's some controversy over the hydration breaks in the World Cup game because people don't like them. People think FIFA are doing it and Fox are doing it just for just so they can run ads. I think they're not running on Telemundo, but
Starting point is 01:38:28 seems like you've got less instances of guys like falling down and crying and rolling around on the ground with a bunch of cramps. So I think that's good. I don't know. Hydration break is done there, back in action with South Africa versus Chequia. Just throw the record books out when those two get together.
Starting point is 01:38:47 All right, Koso, what is up? Koso, how's it going? Hey, what's going on, my man? Not a whole lot, just hanging out solo this hour. We get Adam Clanton next hour, and I appreciate you calling. Absolutely. I'll just do it quickly since I know you're flying solo right now. That means you can talk as much as you want, Koso.
Starting point is 01:39:08 That's right. That's right. Matt's not there to shut me. up. Anyways, shout out to Mr. Texas. Anyways, random rockets talk. And I think you're the best person to ask because you've said it multiple times. If the rockets aren't on a San Antonio, OKC, Knicks level, Detroit, whatever type of upper echelon team, what are, you know, barring the line that they have right now, they're rolling out. What does it make sense to have a 38-year-old Kevin Durant on your squad? If you don't think you can beat those teams, and I'm not saying the Rockets themselves, but, you know, the notion is that we are not on that tier of championships. Why do we have Kevin Durant? We have a young squad.
Starting point is 01:40:01 You could trade them out and do a soft, I hate that word, soft rebuildable, like a retool. And I don't know what they would do. I don't think they're going to do it. But at times, it just doesn't make sense. The guy is going to be 38, and he's going to be, quote, unquote, our best player. Now, I'll leave it for you to discuss on that. But one player, I don't know what his status is for this upcoming year, but who would be perfect on the Rockets is a Donovan Mitchell.
Starting point is 01:40:31 He's exactly what the Rockets need as far as a shooting guard that is, you know, diverse and explosive in scoring. But I just wanted to just bring that up, see what your thoughts on it, and you all have a great rest of your day. All right, thanks a lot, Koso. Now, it's because kind of with the cap situation, that's your best shot.
Starting point is 01:40:55 I'll give you the example of this year's NBA champions. Who had the New York Knicks as NBA champions preseason? They were probably further on down the list, maybe even close to the level of where the rockets were, where it was the thunder, it was the spurs, it was the Pistons who won 60 games, the Celtics finished better. The New York Knicks were the three seed.
Starting point is 01:41:22 And nobody necessarily expected them to do it, but they got together. They played as a team. They played together, and they were able to get it done, and they showed to be much more experienced and have more playoff medal that was tested than the San Antonio Spurs.
Starting point is 01:41:38 So that would be your hope if you are the Houston Rockets. To where the Knicks weren't the most talented team, they weren't more talented than the Spurs. They weren't more, maybe more talented than the Pistons. And it's arguable for other teams in the East. And obviously, it's a lot easier to come out of the East than it is the West. But to where you are saying, we can play together and we can overcome a talent deficit to a degree. and oh by the way, you're hoping for internal growth as well
Starting point is 01:42:08 to where Jumarizman Jr. got better from the year previously to what we saw from him last year. You're hoping for more of a leap. Same thing with Amin Thompson, Alperin Shingoon, Reed Shepard, who made a big leap, and you're hoping can leap even more. You're saying we have the pieces to where we get the offensive rebounding machine, Stephen Adams, back. We get our floor general back, which we were missing, desperately missing in Fred Van Vleet. And we have all these pieces who can play together, who are All-Star caliber,
Starting point is 01:42:42 Amend Thompson, borderline All-Star caliber, Alperin Shungoon, multiple-time All-Star, Kevin Durant, all-time, great. And then you have a pretty well-built team. Are they better than the Spurs? No. Are they better than the Oklahoma City Thunder? No. I didn't think the spurs were better than the Thunder.
Starting point is 01:43:03 They'd be in a seven-game series. So you're hoping that with the internal growth and winning right now, which I'm sure are the instructions with Kevin Durant on the squad, it's like we need to win now in the next couple of years. We're not looking to retool. We're not looking to rebuild. We're not looking to trade him off and not even sure what we can get for him. And oh, by the way, Kevin Durant was their best player last year.
Starting point is 01:43:23 You averaged 26 points per game and he played pretty darn good defense. So you're going to try to dance with who Brung you, because you didn't get a dance. They called it the last dance. It was Lionel Messe's last dance. And it was Michael Jordan's last dance in 98. You didn't get your first dance. Fred Van Vleet missed all 82 games plus the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:43:42 You never got your first dance. And I know you've been to Jonathan, you've been like, hey, well, maybe they can be good enough. And I think you're kind of coming around to that. And that was my question. I was going to ask you. I was like, do you truly not believe they can still at least compete with these teams? They can compete with them. I don't think they'd be seven.
Starting point is 01:44:00 they'd be seven game favorites, but you know, they don't play the games on paper. On paper, San Antonio was favored. On paper, Thunder were favored against the spurs. So they don't play the games on paper, anything that's happened, guys can get injured, that's your best shot. Because otherwise you're saying, we are going to blow this up and we're going to try to get some lottery picks
Starting point is 01:44:17 in the next couple of years. So is it a sunk cost? Because there's something called we've talked about before, sunk cost fallacy to where you, let's say you buy a stock and it goes down and you're like, oh, well, you know what, I'm going to buy some more. Oh, it'll go back up. It'll go. The quarter to three reports can be excellent.
Starting point is 01:44:33 I'm going to buy some. And he just keeps going down, down, down, down, down. But because you've sunk so much into it, you're not willing to let it go. I don't know. Is that what's happening here? I don't think so. But we'll see.
Starting point is 01:44:49 Will Stephen Adams be ready by the season or he's going to be out? He might not be ready at the beginning of the season, but Fred Van Vleet is supposed to be ready to go. And to me, that's the biggest piece is Fred Van Vleet. Stephen Adams is like a luxury item. Okay. Yeah. I can see that.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Yeah. Stephen Adams is more like the mayonnaise. And Fred Van Vleet is more like the ham. What's up? Manez and ham? Oh, wait, maybe we're making a sandwich, right? Or is Fred Van Vleet the cheese? Okay, let's move on. Is that you?
Starting point is 01:45:21 That's not a bad analogy. It works. You know what? The ham and turkey is Kevin Durant and Alper in Shingoon and Men Thompson. Maybe I would have said the ham did the pineapple. Fred Van Vlates the cheese Pineapple You put pineapple On a sandwich?
Starting point is 01:45:35 No, like some ham You know what? You're making a Hawaiian sandwich Why is this? You know what? You know what? Continue. I didn't know we were making a Hawaiian
Starting point is 01:45:46 sandwich. I didn't know you were going a sandwich I thought he was making a ham. I was like Oh. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm talking about I'm talking about
Starting point is 01:45:53 I'm on a sandwich. Okay, we're going to take a break. Adam, I see you on hold. I want to talk some World Cup with you when we come back. You guys want to get in. You can. Adam Clinton showing up at 1 o'clock. 713-212-5-790. 7-13-21-2-5-7-90 on The Matt Thomas show with Ross.
Starting point is 01:46:10 Without Matt Thomas, Jonathan, no, he's not here. Back in a second. Gold days, goals. Gold days goals. Gold days goals. There's a goal by South Africa. It's 1-1. Games getting spicy over there in the 86 minute in Group A of World Cup. action tomorrow we'll be hanging out watching USA versus Australia 2 o'clock we'll be there starting at 10 a.m. for the Matt Thomas show with Ross without Matt Thomas. It'll be me, Gordy, Dan Matthews, coming by. Jonathan's
Starting point is 01:47:09 big time in us, but that's okay. And we'll be watching USA versus Australia starting at 2 o'clock. Make sure you come out to poor behavior, P-O-U-R. Poor, get it, huh? Huh? Poor behavior. P-O-U-R behavior that's in Midtown
Starting point is 01:47:27 2211 Travis Street will be there starting at 10am and we've been following a lot of the World Cup action here I've been watching a lot more than even I thought I was would as a sports fan as a soccer fan because it's just always on dude and I will make the NCAA tournament analogy again it's like all these games even though they're group games
Starting point is 01:47:49 you only get three of them so they feel like do or die games you know the jersey number you know the jersey on the front matters more than what the jersey name is on the back. And it's just fun. And you're rooting for upsets. Maybe you've got some geopolitical implications as well that you're rooting for or rooting against whatever. But USA number one, hopefully they can take down Australia tomorrow. 2 o'clock will be out at poor behavior in midtown.
Starting point is 01:48:15 713-212-570 is the phone number. Adam has gotten in here on the phone lines. What's up, Adam? Hey, I just wanted to say that I'm really happy, but at the same time, I'm really disgusted by World Cup. First, I was lucky enough to go to the first World Cup in the United States in 1994, and maybe I just got spoiled because at that time, I guess soccer still was very, it was, is viewed poorly in the United States. And I just went to a lot of the games, for example, I went to a semi-final game, and I went to a semi-final game, I just paid $10 for a ticket. Really?
Starting point is 01:48:55 And a semi? Yeah. Where was it? That was a semi-final game. I think that was the third, fourth place match, and I just paid $10 to go. And I was in the role role in L.A. And I was thinking that when this World Cup rolls around, there will be more excitement, but it's just too overloaded.
Starting point is 01:49:17 Don't get mad at me, but right now I'm in Dallas. and Dallas, it has a good setup for the fan fest, and AT&T stadium is a nice stadium, but the surrounding area and trying to get there is pure hell, and it's not set up properly like you can just take the light rail to NRG Stadium in Houston. It's really difficult to go to games in Arlington here. But what has really made me upset is the way FIFA has handled the ticketing situation. I tried to buy tickets when they first came out on the lottery and then in general on their website.
Starting point is 01:50:03 But I was having so many website problems. I couldn't get tickets. So then I'm trying to buy tickets from cans here. And the Dan's FIFA app is not working on my phone. So I had to switch to a backup phone, and you can't buy tickets on a non-Fifa app. Like if you try StubHub or Seat Geek or something like that, technically they can turn you away or they're having, those apps are having ticketing problems because, you know, the ticketing is only supposed to go through the FIFA app. and then there's been just a giant run-up on prices. I've just been screwed over so many times by people saying they have an extra ticket,
Starting point is 01:50:54 and, okay, it'll be $400, which I think is kind of steep. I was like, okay, $400, and then they back out and go to, are you guys still there? Yeah, sorry, my computer's making noises. I got you, Adam. Go ahead. Okay, no problem. And then they back out and sell a ticket to somebody else. for more money. And just the greed is taken over and made this kind of like a bad experience from that
Starting point is 01:51:23 aspect. Like even Uber rides parking at Dout, parking at next to AT&P Stadium, we've got up to $200. Uber rides are $200. And that's totally destroyed the experience. The good experience has been the fan fest and the, you know, Europeans and people from other nations come in and throwing parades and being in a celebratory manner. But once again, I'm kind of questioning how people have the money to fly out from, like, another country, spend thousands of dollars on a hotel, a transportation.
Starting point is 01:52:04 And then the cheapest for the England-Croat game just to get in the door was $900. There's no way Joe Six-back. can go to the interview. No, yeah. I mean, Joe Six-Packs getting priced out of everything. Adam, thanks so much for your thoughts on this. I appreciate you getting in. Yeah, I was looking at, you know, mentioned on air,
Starting point is 01:52:26 so I'm not saying anything I should. And they were looking at his son, Cameron, is a huge soccer fan. And Netherlands, Sweden, is this weekend at Houston Stadium. And literally last week, we were looking, and the tickets were like $800. or something like that. And then with this first week of run of games, I don't know if it's just gotten so popular or what.
Starting point is 01:52:50 Now get in, just to get in, the worst seat is like $1,600. It's crazy. It's crazy how absurd it's gotten. And FIFA, of course, is trying to capitalize on this, and it's all been just for the money. But, I mean, they don't care, right? And you look, if you're running a business, which a lot of the World Cup, we love,
Starting point is 01:53:11 it's talking about it's for passion and pageantry and all this. It's a business. They expanded from 32 to 48 teams to make more money. They're looking to make more money. It's at the crux of every sport we watch, professional sport that we watch, I should say. So it's unfortunate. It sucks. It is pricing out a lot of regular Joe's,
Starting point is 01:53:30 but if they're able to sell the tickets, which it looks like the capacity has been very high in all these games, they don't care. So just give you a rundown how expensive tickets were maybe in 2009. Yeah, I don't even know. for like, I would have to look it up. And it's also, it's all different because this is in America, which the ticket pricing here is crazier than it is in other places, even in Europe.
Starting point is 01:53:55 Like, I'm a Manchester City fan. And the group, there's a bunch of little fan groups and factions. Like, they sit in certain stands and they're called, who knows, like the Middle City Blues or whatever. They have a fan group and they all buy season tickets and they all sit together. So a bunch of those fan groups, Jonathan, where they were protesting how high the ticket prices got. And I saw, and it was like 80 bucks, American. They're like, oh, these chicken prices are way too hard.
Starting point is 01:54:24 We're protesting. We're not going to go to the games. And it was like 80 bucks. It's way different here. The ticket price culture in America is a lot different than it is all of the rest of the world. Yeah. And I'm looking up in 2009, Houston Texans average face value ticket price was $67. Okay.
Starting point is 01:54:41 What is it now? Let me I guess while I look it up. Average 125? I don't know. Probably double that. Yeah, everything's gone up and up and up. Yeah, average 290.
Starting point is 01:54:57 Okay, 290. For a Texans game. This is from a 2020, 2020, 24 season. Yeah, they were, I'm looking at the main, trying to find the Manchester City. Like, they have a lower category. That's 25 pounds. What's that British pounds?
Starting point is 01:55:13 Like one and a half, so that's probably like $45. Yeah. And they're like, oh, these ticket prices are too hard. We're going to start pro-essing. So, yeah, it's too much here in America. The ticket price culture is out of whack. And FIFA loves that. They did have $70,000.
Starting point is 01:55:32 Go ahead. They did have 70,000. They did have hardly any tickets left for Saturday. Netherlands and Sweden. Like, Netherlands good, kind of a dark whore. Sweden's okay This is not even around a 16 matchup Or a semifinal or anything like that
Starting point is 01:55:48 That's gonna be those are gonna be like college Football Championship prices But then the argument too is like It is the World Cup And that's kind of like I mean That's the hard part where I sit at I'm on the fence it's like it's the World Cup It's gonna be more exclusive to go out
Starting point is 01:56:04 How are they getting 70,000 in all these stadiums? It's crazy I mean some of these do look half entry Like Atlanta for this this South Africa Chequia game does not look full capacity. It just doesn't. But I don't know, dude. Oof. South Africa with a
Starting point is 01:56:20 shot on goal in the 96th minute. Did not score. Looks like it's going to end 1-1. All right, quick break here for the Matt Thomas show with Ross without Matt Thomas. Adam Clanton is going to join next segment or will he be on time? Pedro tweeting in minus 300 Clanton is late or forgot altogether. He also tweeted minus 1,000
Starting point is 01:56:41 boogie nights reference in the first segment. We shall see on both of those. Pedro, always listening. Appreciate you. You can find me on Twitter and tweet me as well. If you'd like at SportsRV. You can also find me on Instagram at SportsRV. Quick break here on the Matt Thomas show with Ross. Will
Starting point is 01:56:56 Adam Clanton be here on time? Find out next. Hour number four of the Matt Thomas show Ross. This is the Matt Thomas show with Ross. Back. Or maybe you never left. Hour number four of the Matt Thomas show with
Starting point is 01:57:20 Ross here on Sports Talk 790 without Matt Thomas. He continues to hopefully be resting and relaxing in beautiful Calvison, Texas, as he is out today. And tomorrow, Adam Clinton will be hanging out as soon as he gets here.
Starting point is 01:57:38 So those of you who had Adam Clinton being late at minus 300, ding, ding, ding, your bet's hit, Jonathan. He'll be here as soon. He had a streak going. I think he's been on time, like a couple times in a row. This hasn't been late in like. I know. You know, this one's really catching the books by surprise because he had been on time a couple of times. I did ask him late in the game. I asked him earlier today. I'm going to be honest. Jonathan already knows this. I'm very forgetful, okay? I forgot to ask Clanton about hanging out because Wex is doing me a solid.
Starting point is 01:58:06 He's going to be covering the Astros for me tomorrow. So I wanted to ask Clanton to put in a little extra work. We all have to give helping hands here at Sports Talk 790 when there's vacations. And it's summertime. that means it is time for vacation. So Matt Thomas out for a couple of days. Adam Clanton should be here very, very shortly. Pedro, however, you have hit your bet as he will be joining us just in a minute. 713-212-5-790 is the phone number if you want to get in. 7-13-212-5-790. We'll also, again, I will let you know be out at poor behavior in Midtown. You want to come by tomorrow. Starting with the... the show at 10 a.m.
Starting point is 01:58:48 We'll go into watch party mode at 2 p.m. and pregame here on 790 for the World Cup as we're playing the Fox broadcast. That starts at 2. Pregame starts at 1.30. We'll be watching the game myself, Gordy, Dan Matthews, others as well as it'll be USA, USA versus Australia 2 o'clock tomorrow at poor behavior, P-O-U-R in Midtown. Phone lines open for you at 713-212-5. 719. 713 2125790. As I mentioned, we had Brian Bogusevick in the first couple hours talking a lot of astros.
Starting point is 01:59:26 And it's kind of like at some point, they got to wake up. When is that point going to be? Is it now they've won four of their last six? We were really expecting a start of it taking on the angels in that six game road trip, where you're taking on a horrible, bad baseball team. team. They got the gift in game one. Then they lost the next two. 10 to 1 in the second game.
Starting point is 01:59:54 My God. But anyways, you rallied somewhat. You won a couple of games in Kansas City. Those were close ones as well. Could have been a disaster on that Friday game when you got up 9-0 and then Tatsuya is getting tattooed Emi and it's just not looking good. And then you lose the first game against Detroit. But now you've won back-to-back games. And the good news is you've got your horseback.
Starting point is 02:00:17 You've got your ace back. Hunter Brown looked very good, especially where he's kind of knocking a little bit of the rust off at the beginning of the game. Then he started locking in, finish with seven strikeouts, pitch five and two-thirds innings, couldn't make it out of the six, but overall looked like a pretty darn good productive start. Then you got Peter Lambert doing what he did in the four-two victory for the Astros yesterday to where he is continuing to pitch and pitch well. Seven innings of one-run ball from him, five-strives. Strikeouts 3.23 ERA on the season.
Starting point is 02:00:50 Josh Hater pitching in back-to-back games for the first time all season long. So are we going to start waking up? Are they going to start chipping away? Are they going to go to where there's six games below 500 to at some point? Maybe you don't necessarily need four out of five, but four out of six like you just got to where you can just keep improving, picking up some wins, picking up some series, and at some point, challenge for first place. been talking about how you're three and a half out, but you're also game and a half behind the Rangers,
Starting point is 02:01:22 two games behind the A's. You don't just have to pass one team. It's not a one for one. So it's a different scenario to where you were just in second place because everyone in front of you has to underperform while you, I don't want to say overperform, but while you perform to the level that you feel you are capable of. Can they do that?
Starting point is 02:01:42 Remains to be seen. I'm feeling more encouraged. I would feel a lot more encouraged. Let's say you just wave a magic wand. And Tatu I had the six innings of no hit ball, gets a Rangers, followed that up with a quality start, followed that up with a quality start light,
Starting point is 02:01:58 and then maybe he'd even get you like, I don't know, five innings of two-run ball or something like that. Even changing that one result, Saturday against the Royals, with EMI and the rotation, would make me feel a lot better than where we sit right now. Because now we're back to, I don't want to say back to the square one, But it kind of feels like it.
Starting point is 02:02:18 You're only as good as your last start because we like to overreact to everything. The last start was a disaster for him. And things are going so poorly for Mike Burroughs. The guy's getting skipped in the rotation and you're going to a shorter rotation right now and putting him in the bullpen right now at the moment because of necessity, because as the schedule dictates, but also because you don't have Javier. You don't have any number of these other pitchers that are possibly going to come back. the Ronell Blancos, the Haydwuznowski's, the
Starting point is 02:02:47 Lance McCullors Jr. I guess we'll see what happens on that front. But all this depth, all these guys that you thought you had, you've had to continue to throw Mike Burroughs out there, and hopefully that he can sink or swim, and he's been sinking. He just has been. So Hunter Brown, getting back, is clicking the first thing into place
Starting point is 02:03:07 if you're looking for a mid-season turnaround for this team, especially in this soft part of the schedule, which they have been. Cleveland Guardians, aren't soft. They are going to be without Jose Ramirez as he suffered an injury, but they're still a first place team. Toronto's under 500
Starting point is 02:03:23 so you go on the road for three against them and then you take on Detroit again for four games. That'll be on the road and Detroit's not very good. You just took two out of three out of them. Not going to say this guy's going to be easy four game sweep for the Asher's or anything like that. But the opportunities are
Starting point is 02:03:39 there. It's in front of you. Just go ahead and seize the opportunity and care of business against these lesser than teams. That's what I would like to see. Carpe DM baby. Hey Adam. What's up? How are you, Clinton 316?
Starting point is 02:03:55 I'm late as usual. No, I would say it's been about 50-50 lately. I would not want to say you've had a pretty good record in a row. Well, the books were surprised. I know this is going to come as a huge shock to you. But somebody has done something to irritate me. Oh, what happened?
Starting point is 02:04:11 And this time, it's... It wasn't me, wasn't it? It's just construction near where I live. Oh, we were talking about this with Brian Bogussevic, we have, I just don't get it, at 1130. Because I just don't get it, was the construction basically everywhere. Yeah, this city sucks. It's always under construction. I mean, I love Houston, but it also sucks. Is that possible? Like, everywhere
Starting point is 02:04:27 you go. Like, this 45 thing, they just opened. They're like, oh, yeah, this would be done in like 2032. I'm like, what? 2032, huh? I think that's the year. So right around the corner. I mean, it's literally everywhere we have moved, the construction has
Starting point is 02:04:43 followed us eventually, so. Well, that's everywhere in Houston. Yeah. It's just it has... You've got to get your sweetheart deals and your kickbacks for the politicians back here. This particular project has made it to where you... There's only one way out of our neighborhood
Starting point is 02:04:57 and everybody's using it. And there's usually like three. Yeah. So, anyway, that's... Well, I'm glad you're here. I'm fine. Mr. Clem? Thanks for having. Appreciate you showing up.
Starting point is 02:05:08 What are you talking about today? Well, we've been talking about the World Cup, which I know you're a huge... You've been all in the World Cup, right? I appreciate the specs. tactical. Okay, good. And there is some really good scenery. Well, I'm talking about the athleticism. Oh, I thought you're talking about the Colombian women.
Starting point is 02:05:26 That's, yeah, the athleticism. Oh, okay, good. We're on the same page. I didn't watch any of the game, so. Very busy. We were coming back from Lake Charles. Yeah, how'd you all do? How'd you make out? I mean, the plus. Okay. Yeah. And Matthew? And the plus.
Starting point is 02:05:43 clearly Matthew is so distraught from the trip that he couldn't make it into work his show today. Yeah, I understand. What's his excuse this time? No, he's relaxing. He says, and we were talking about this earlier, Adam, as you know, Matthew isn't one prone to relaxation. He isn't? I don't think so. He's go, go, go.
Starting point is 02:06:02 He's always running around. He's not taking a vacation, like a relaxing vacation since I've known him. Really? Yeah, I guess that's true. Where did he go? Well, we make fun of Wex because his family forces. him to and he tries to work the whole time. Yes. But at least he goes. Get off your phone.
Starting point is 02:06:17 stare at the clouds. I don't know if Matt, I think you're right. I don't remember the last time. Like, because if it's not for like a volleyball trip lately, he's always traveling. That's probably why he doesn't do it because he's always traveling with the rockets, so he kind of gets to see the whole country. He's
Starting point is 02:06:33 running around all the time. The time that he does take off, I mean, he's a very good father. He watches a lot of his girls' volleyball tournaments all over the country. He's in like Reno and he's in Dallas and he's in North Carolina or Kansas City all over the country. That's not a relaxed time. No, but he gets a good mix.
Starting point is 02:06:52 He gets an eclectic view of the country. Yes, a lot of Midwest cities that I would never visit otherwise. So good for him. Hopefully he's relaxing now. He's in Galveston. He's in Galveston? Yes. So what's the ritziest hotel in Galveston?
Starting point is 02:07:07 The San Luis? Yeah, I think you're right. That's got to be where he's at, right? Okay. I know where he is and he is not there. Oh. He used points. Rhymes with Dariot.
Starting point is 02:07:16 Oh, my gosh. Hey, man. You know what? I'm going to be honest. You're all going to get, Jonathan and I can already see you making a face. You're going to get mad at me. Galvis is too expensive. For the hotels, for what it is.
Starting point is 02:07:29 I mean, I like Galvis. You're going to make a day trip. That's what I'm saying. That's what we do. It's like some dumpy place on the seawall can be like 300 plus a night. I think that's like the entire country now. It's like, y'all need to relax. Well, you know, over here across the street, the finest hotel in the city, it's not even close.
Starting point is 02:07:46 Of course. It's the only five-star five-diamond hotel. Yes. And I get a little bit of a break because of the... Now, again, it's like an annual fee, but it pays for itself in like the first month with what we use it for. I'll just leave it at that. But basically, we have not convinced ourselves as much as she... She is the most boozy hotel person on the planet.
Starting point is 02:08:13 Who? My wife. Okay. She wants to stay there, but we can't bring ourselves to sleep in the same city that our home is in for that kind of money. It's not the same city, though. Aren't you guys in Sugar Land? It depends. It depends on how you want to look at it.
Starting point is 02:08:29 Stafford? But it's the point being, like, if we're going to stay somewhere like that, it needs to be out of, like, the state. You can do some. You can do a nice daycation in Houston. Oh, yeah. That's one of them. No, no, you have to deal with a. construction we were talking about.
Starting point is 02:08:41 You got to deal with, yeah. Other than that. Homeless or something. But all right, anyways, all right, we're going to take a break here on the Matt Thomas show with Ross. All right. No boogie nights mentioned in the first segment. You lose your bet, Pedro. You just mentioned it.
Starting point is 02:08:55 It doesn't count. All right, quick break here on the Matt Thomas show with Ross. Adam Clant is hanging out. We're with you until 2 o'clock. You guys want to get in. We're talking about the Astros' turnaround that is or isn't as they win the series against Detroit Tigers. We're also talking some World Cup.
Starting point is 02:09:12 We're talking anything you guys want to get to. Trey Young has opted out. We've been talking some Rockets offseason as well. 713-212-5-790. Just covering the lengthy list of people that Adam Klein to hates. You know what I love is how you love? You and Wex both react to that aspect of my personality. Like, Wex just, Wex rolls his eyes approximately 100.
Starting point is 02:09:40 times per show. That's something I say or do. It's fine. It's fine. It is. I think you both dee down. You more so outwardly get a kick out of it. I think it's interesting. It's like I'm watching
Starting point is 02:09:57 somebody in the guerrilla enclosure. I'm like wondering what's he going to hate next. In the gorilla enclosure? Now I'm just an animal. Throw my feces at you. Well, please don't do that. We're all animals, Clanton. You know what?
Starting point is 02:10:10 though, like, I don't know how I would function in a normal job setting. You ever thought about that? Oh, where you'd hate actual people? You'd be getting called into HR every week. There was, I won't reveal which organization it was here in town. Okay. That narrows it down. The Houston Hotchots.
Starting point is 02:10:28 Was not that one. Okay. Thunder bears. The person that. Sabercats. Clearly would have the power to do something like this. Okay. Was like, I'd have to fire you like a weekend.
Starting point is 02:10:40 Yeah. They already knew. Maybe you'd conduct yourself better. I can play it. Yeah, you can play along. Yeah, you play along. But I don't want to. You've been a lot of places.
Starting point is 02:10:50 We only fired you once up here. And what was that for? No one really knows. You know, we'd have a bingo card from bringing that up when you're here, boogie nights and hating, all that kind of stuff. The funny thing about that is I don't even acknowledge that. Good. Yeah, we have to move on.
Starting point is 02:11:08 No, you know what? I'm sorry for bringing it up. That's on me. I shouldn't have done it. It happened. I was just making a joke. It's part of history. I was making a joke, but you're not laughing.
Starting point is 02:11:16 All right, 713, 212,1, 5790 is the voting by 7-1-2. Hey, you're having your first child. Don't make me feel any worse. How's that going to go for you? I'm super. I'm on an 11-month unpaid vacation. Thanks, Eddie. All right, so Hunter Brown's back at him.
Starting point is 02:11:33 Let's get Eddie in here. Peter Lambert continues to pitch well. I think Arrogati can still be good. Are you worried about when you're a lot? you were walking, I'm not worried about him, but... I think Wex is. Oh, is he? Well, if you look at the, you know, our friends field independent pitching,
Starting point is 02:11:47 expected ERA, stuff like that, he's outperforming those, and sometimes those are regressed. Sometimes they don't. But if you recall, I was on this show called the A-Team on Sports Talk 790 from spring training, and you guys asked me about a name under the radar, and Spencer Argetti was the name I gave you. So I'm feeling pretty proud about that. I don't remember that, but you're on the same page as me.
Starting point is 02:12:07 Well, you were. You were like, yeah. Because I said his name. you go and yes. Well, here's the deal. When I, looking back on the Astros' golden era, let's just put it at that, because frankly, we need to look back on it at this point. I hate to say it's more bronze right now.
Starting point is 02:12:28 Thank you. Sterling silver. You don't want to be a silver. That's the number one loser. But like, I was always high on Jose Orquite. And why? People will be like, why are you so like? Because when a guy performs at that level on the biggest stage where the lights are the brightest,
Starting point is 02:12:45 you can't help but think that that guy's in there somehow. Same with Christian Javier right now. When's the last time we saw combined no hitter Christian Javier? That version. Never? It's been a long time. But I know he's in there somewhere and I think he's going to come back. Now, Jose Orchiti literally did not come back because they told him goodbye.
Starting point is 02:13:03 But, you know, I'm like that with Spencer Erigetti because I've seen enough from him. Boy, he's a moxie guy. You always think of that word? He's one of those guys you use it. He just looks like moxie. Yeah, he's got swag, as the kids may say. Yep. Confident.
Starting point is 02:13:18 Super nice, dude. Yeah, he's very nice. He's a great interview, even off-air interactions. And I will just tell you, you know this, Adam, but it's talking to the listener. Like, there's some guys who are a certain way when the mics are on and a certain way when the mics are off. And there are certain guys who are good, genuine, nice, no matter what. And Arrogati is one of those guys. Do you think I'm the same guy when the mic's on?
Starting point is 02:13:38 on and off. I, to me, in my experience, yes. You hate everyone, no matter if there's a microphone before you or not. I turn the volume up on the personality sometimes. It's a schick. Yeah, because we're performing, baby. Lean into it. Yes. I'm not, because if I was like, hey, guys,
Starting point is 02:13:54 what's going on? Nobody's going to listen. Okay, so you've got to have personal. Of course, we are radio personalities. I once asked our bosses if they thought I could have, if I could be a successful sports talk show host without my social media. And then I essentially, well, I just because I basically have self-neutered there.
Starting point is 02:14:11 Oh, okay. So, I mean, that person... I'm not. It's just boring. Like, it's just a boring existence on social media now. But it leaves more time for things that matter, I guess. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:26 Hot and bothered about this stuff. I used to feel like I needed to be on there to get news, but... Well, I do that, but the part, like, what I don't do anymore is tweeting through it. Do you ever do that? Do you ever go through that phase? especially with what we do for a living. I used to, though. I try, I need to live tweet things more, but.
Starting point is 02:14:44 That's the thing. I used to do Texans games. Oh, my gosh. Every snap was a tweet. Yeah, every snap. We were getting something. People knew and people were on there, but it's just not like that anymore,
Starting point is 02:14:52 especially since they added the 4U tab where stuff shows up like 19 hours later. Like, I'll see, like, Chandler Rome says, like, the trainers are out to see Yordon Alvarez. I'm like, oh, my God, what happened? Oh, that was from last night. He was okay.
Starting point is 02:15:04 He like, he took a foul ball off his ankle and he's good. Yes. I wanted him real time. time. Exactly. In order. If I miss it, I miss it. It's fine. I put my phone down. Big deal. Yeah. Well, they have the tab. You can do that now, but it's still, sometimes I do feel like you might miss something big. Maybe I just need to get the, I need to get the big reporters and put notifications on for them and then never open the app. You'd be like other people that we know that just hate scroll all day long. That's the thing. Like, it's, no, I don't want to do that. I can't do that either. I know.
Starting point is 02:15:31 It's not, it's not for me. All right, Roger, we see you on hold. We're going to get to you. We got a segment, a couple of segments to go here on the matth topic. I think Roger's seen boogie nights? We'll ask him. Okay. We will ask Roger, because you know what? We've been too long without a- And get his review.
Starting point is 02:15:44 We've been too long without a boogie. Have you seen boogie nights, Jonathan? We told you it's a great movie. See, you'll tell me to watch and I watched it. You did? Oh, what'd you think? I thought that was a very good movie. Like, nudity beside and all, that was a really good, like, the mess is sitting and everything.
Starting point is 02:15:58 Wait, besides the nudity? See, Adam's... Here, hold on, hold on. Turn Adam's microphone off for one second. Let me talk from film buff to film buff, because John, Jonathan likes film. Yes, that movie, it's about the subtext, the family. It's about family. Disfunction family. It's about finding your own family. It's about finding your own path. But to, but to Clanton and Thomas is just about it's about Roller Girl getting naked. It's a movie about the porn industry. There you go. See what I'm saying, Jonathan? All right, quick break here on The Matt Thomas Show with Ross without Matt Thomas. Welcome back.
Starting point is 02:16:39 The Matt Thomas Show with Ross. All right, I immediately regret my decisions. Not all of them, but many of them. All right, welcome back to the Matt Thomas show with Ross. Without Matt Thomas, Adam Clanton is hanging out. He will be on the A team starting at 2 o'clock. He will also be on a little later than normal tomorrow. Clanton, are you coming by poor behavior?
Starting point is 02:17:02 No. But I will promote it freely. That's appreciate it. Well, here's the deal. I was going to ask you an important question about that. The game will be preempting a portion of our show. Yes. What time is it kickoff again?
Starting point is 02:17:14 It kicks off at 2. 1.30. So we'll also be off early on the Matt Thomas show with Ross. We'll go into World Cup USA versus Australia coverage at 130. Kickoff is at 2 o'clock. We will be out at poor behavior, P-O-U-R, poor behavior in Midtown starting at 10 a.m. So you're looking for somewhere, knock off early, watch the game. Poor behavior.
Starting point is 02:17:34 It'll be me. Chris Cordy's coming out there, Dan Matthews, and some others. We'll have some giveaways as well. We have $100 gift cards to the hat store we're giving. giving away. Yes, sir. I got a nice hat the last time, well, the rodeo season
Starting point is 02:17:48 over there. Like, it's legit. Yes, sir. If you go out to poor behavior and you wind up with one of those gift cards, you're going to be very happy going over to the hat store off of Richmond and Chimney Rock is right.
Starting point is 02:18:01 Yes, we'll be given. We have 10 of those to give away. So it's no joke. We're giving away some of those. We'll also have some other giveaways, starting at 10 a.m. for the show. 1.30 pregame coverage, 2 o'clock. say versus Australia, you're going to watch the game, make sure you come hang out.
Starting point is 02:18:15 So that was my question. When do you think that game will actually end? What time? Generally, the games are about two hours. With the hydration breaks especially, I would say probably four-ish. Okay. That's what we were thinking. Because, you know, when the Astros preempt us with like yesterday's game, so it's a one o'clock
Starting point is 02:18:31 start or whatever, we try to kind of, we've gotten it kind of down to a science because it's baseball. We watch so much of it. No, roughly without any sort of extenuating circumstances, what time we're going to actually be on the air, but I don't really have that kind of gauge because it's soccer, and I know nothing about it. Yeah, that's okay. You haven't been watching any of the cup?
Starting point is 02:18:50 I told you what I was watching, the athleticism. Okay, you're watching the crowd shots. I got you. Roger, have you ever seen Buggy Nights? Yes, my sports take can wait because we're the landscape of Houston Sports right now. Yeah, I saw a Diggler talk all the time.
Starting point is 02:19:06 You're going to preempt the show like that, and heck yeah, I've seen Bougainte. What a star-study cast, man. He can't get the scratch to make movies like that anymore. You got, man, you got Heather Graham. You got Julianne Moore. He got Bert Reynolds, RIP, you had Don Cheadle. Mark Wahlberg, Phillips, Seymour Hoppin, Willem H. Macy, star-studded.
Starting point is 02:19:27 Yeah, wasn't it John C. Riley born to make 70s period pieces? That guy is just like we were born with a mustache and a, you know, cheating hairline. Roger, you might be my favorite 790 caller of all time. The list is short. Yeah, no. You know your... I appreciate it. Yeah, you know your Boogie Night stuff, man.
Starting point is 02:19:49 That came out in 1997, so it's kind of like... Okay, for example, Cole Thompson, our morning show host, has still not watched it. Oh, really? I think I'm going to strike him the next time I see him. You know, I mean, you don't have to threaten violence. Well, sometimes that's what it takes. I know, I know karate.
Starting point is 02:20:04 You're not the boss of me. You're not the boss of me. I like, but by the way, did you notice that Roger started naming off cast members and immediately went with the females at the top of the list. Duh. Love it. Julianne Moore. Yeah, Heather Graham. Yeah, it's a good. Powerhouse
Starting point is 02:20:19 performances. Amber waves and Roller Girl. Don't get our roller girls bad side. She'll boast your ass with those skates. That's true. That's right. Hey, spoilers, bro. Have a good one. All right. I love it. I love that. No sports at all. That is a nightmare Adam Wexler call.
Starting point is 02:20:37 He hates calls like that. Wait, wait. We deviated from sports. unbelievable. Yeah. Well, it's great film. I'm glad that some other employees here at the station have taken the time out to watch it, unlike others. I've probably seen it at least ten times, probably more if I had to guess.
Starting point is 02:20:58 Yeah, I'm going to say, I'm being conservative with that one. The other day, the scene where the dealer was wearing the robe, that's the best way to put it for those who haven't seen it. The dealer was... You know, where they go over to the house in the Corvette. It's one of the great scenes in cinema history. It was like a screen cap. The tension built with the music, with the crazy stuff that goes on, with the acting, with Mark Wahlberg zoning out. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 02:21:23 Well, he was tweaking, wasn't he? Yeah. Well, apparently he was just thinking of something, and then Paul Thomas Anderson used the shot. Oh, okay. Well, here's what it was. It was a tweet, but it was just still shot of that scene. And I think the caption was something like, you can actually hear this scene if you've seen the movie. Yes, I can.
Starting point is 02:21:40 I forgot to send it to you. I wish I had just a girl. You can send it. Yeah, that's a very key element of that scene. 80% of Adam Klanning and I's communication is memes about boogie nights. And there ain't a darn thing wrong with it. There's nothing wrong with it at all. I love it.
Starting point is 02:21:55 So thanks for the call, Roger. Thank you, Roger. I imagine he said he wanted, he said Astros and Rockets on there. I guess we briefly talked Rockets, but we had a call. Akecer earlier was asking, like, how, what is their plan? like is is really going with old man Kevin Durant in these guys the plan and I think maybe you even feel emboldened with the Knicks who weren't their number three seed they weren't some mega favorite to win the NBA championship yet they're having a parade today in New York well that's good because neither are the rockets their odds are awful now I'll let me tell you what I think their plan is versus what it should be okay what I think their plan is is well we're just going to bank on health like even if you wanted to do that with Fred Van Vlee who's not an injury prone guy I mean he's never had a major injury until this one
Starting point is 02:22:42 say he's 100% healthy next year he only misses a couple games because he like he sits out the season finale and like one other random thing whatever he has a cold and he's completely healthy you really think that with a potentially healthy
Starting point is 02:22:57 Kevin Durant that's a huge potentially because he just got done playing more games than he ever has in like five years and he broke down in the playoffs yeah do you think that is going to be enough to vault you to what seed would even make you happy at this point. You're not one and you're not two starting out, right?
Starting point is 02:23:12 Probably a three. You could be two. It depends on injury. This is the thing, though. No matter what you do, you have no guarantees. The Oklahoma City Thunder had a great roster, and I mean, Jalen Williams did get hurt in the playoffs, but for the most part, they had great health.
Starting point is 02:23:26 And it was a lot of the year. They were the very, very heavy odds-on favors to win the championship, and then they didn't make it out of the West. They didn't make it to the finals. If they had not ran into the Spurs, the one team that's a bad matchup for the championship, them. Everybody has them. But they, but they did. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like, there's no guarantees. The rockets, the rockets did blow it up. They blew it up and they got,
Starting point is 02:23:48 they picked in the top five for four years. They didn't get a number one pick. There's no guarantees anywhere. And the thing is like the spurs to the thunder is kind of like the sonics to the rockets back in the 90s. As long as you didn't face them in the postseason, you had a really good shot of coming out of the West for like a four or five year period there. But you always ended up facing them on either side of the two championships and that was the team that stopped you. They stopped you the year before you won your first and they ended your reign after the second one. They were just a bad matchup. That's what I think the Spurs are for the Oklahoma City Thunder. And if Jalen Williams had been healthy regular season and in the postseason, I don't think it would have mattered if
Starting point is 02:24:26 you wound up facing off against the San Antonio Spurs. But, you know, I think if the Thunder hadn't gotten to the Western Conference finals and seen the Spurs standing there, we're probably talking about back-to-back championships. They had game seven against the Timberwolves, right? Was it the Spurs? Didn't they go to a game seven? Yes. So, I mean...
Starting point is 02:24:47 Spurs were, I mean, the Timberwolves were kind of a bad matchup for San Antonio. I know people get mad at Rafael Stone, but kind of what he said is correct. You just get in the game. You get in the game and you see what happens. It's not like baseball playoffs where you get in and anything can happen. No. But you get, you're one of the top three, four teams in your conference. and you see what happens.
Starting point is 02:25:09 You just have to get in there and then something can happen, an injury can happen, you can get, somehow Reed Shepherd goes 7 to 10 for 3 and you steal a game, and then the next game you steal because Kevin Durant goes off or whatever. You need to get in there
Starting point is 02:25:22 and try to pry open the door somehow, but you got to be in the game. You've got to be seated at the table, and the rockets are good enough to be seated at the table. Yeah, and I do think Fred Van Villeet will actually help a lot of what ailed them last year, but man you know what I don't want to see
Starting point is 02:25:39 I don't want to see for the second consecutive off season a bunch of footage which I'm seeing it right now by the way seeing a bunch of footage of the Rockets assistance overseas working out with Alperin Shingoon oh remember last year oh my gosh look at his three point shot
Starting point is 02:25:54 where the was that all year long it was there for two games I think the first year of the game is season and then that other game where he weighed like seven I remember Tari Easton like led the league in three points shooting for a month where he like went in the toilet. And then he didn't.
Starting point is 02:26:07 Yeah, he cost himself millions of dollars. Is he coming back, I guess? We got some question marks. Okay, we're talking Houston Sports and Boogie Nights. That's because Adam Clanton is here on the Matt Thomas show with Ross. Final segment is coming up. You guys can get in. No, believe it or not today with Matt out, 713-212-5-790.
Starting point is 02:26:23 The Matt Thomas show with Ross without Matt with you till 2 o'clock. I was going to say, I want you to do me a favor, Adam Clanton, and watch USA Australia. But I think Australia is going to play. like a low blogging. This is the thing. You ever try to show somebody something? Or like a show or a movie or I don't know what, an artist
Starting point is 02:26:55 and then you're like, oh, and then they don't like you fill out of pressure. Yeah, I shouldn't have gone with this song. I took a... This isn't the episode we should have watched to really get you into the show. So I'm going to say I could see USA Australia. I mean, USA's attack was carving up Padak Kau.
Starting point is 02:27:12 But I think Australia, at least what they did against Turkey A was they kind of played, they basically played pre-vent defense to make an American analogy. So if they're going to sit there and play prevent defense, it's not going to be a back-and-forth electric matchup. So I don't want to sell you that USA Australia is going to be like the game of this century. Yeah, you know what's funny? You'll appreciate this analogy. So I've, that has happened to me with comedians. Like I'll tell this buddy who hasn't seen this act, hey, you got to go to this show. He's awesome. Every time I've seen him, he's awesome.
Starting point is 02:27:46 That happened one time. And he bombed? Well, I don't want to name names. Because nine times, ten times out of ten, most of the time, this guy's awesome. But I took a buddy of mine who hadn't seen him and wasn't even really familiar with this guy's work. And after the show, I know him a little bit. So we went up to say hi to him. And he like kind of whispered in my ear.
Starting point is 02:28:04 He was like, man, I'm so bummed. You came to this show. He didn't even know that I brought somebody who had never seen him before. He was just basically like I wasn't on my game for that show that night. And this is like the improv where they're doing two shows. a night and we just happened to come to the show that he was just like I was just off tonight. Now, I could tell because I'd seen this guy a million times, that everybody was dying laughing in the crowd. They all still loved him. But I could tell it wasn't like his A game. So it's funny
Starting point is 02:28:31 that he said that to me unabated after the show. But yeah, that's kind of like you tune into something, you try to. That happens with music a lot, especially with who I'm married to. She's like, I'll check this out. And I'm like, how do I tell her this sucks? This sucks. It's terrible. Yeah. We have very different musical. I kind of just got a buy-in. Like, you know, for whatever reason, like when you're a kid, you ever buy in and think something's great? And then you listen to your older, like, why the hell did I ever like that? It's like mindset.
Starting point is 02:28:56 It hits you at the right place at the right time. You used to watch and then you watch it years later and you're like, why did I watch this? I literally, one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movies on from the 90s. The original one? Yeah. I watched it. I like called my dad to apologize. Well, you could quote every line of it when we were 10.
Starting point is 02:29:12 I'm so sorry. I made you watch his dad. This movie sucks. Like, this is terrible. They made three of these? Made a gazillion dollars. Yeah, I know. It made a gazillion dollars.
Starting point is 02:29:19 The second one had vanilla ice in it at his peak of his powers. Yeah, go ninja, go. The third one never happened. Yeah, that's like Rocky Five. They were like samurai. They were like time traveling samurai. No, I don't know. I never thought.
Starting point is 02:29:31 Who came up with this one? Not anybody good. I remember getting it on VHS. And when you know, people don't know this clan, but back in our day, see, Jonathan doesn't know this. When you were... However many movies you had. that's however many movies you watched.
Starting point is 02:29:48 We got eight VHS tapes. We're watching these eight movies 500 times. Because Brent and your... They weren't going to pay for cable. There's no internet. There's no internet. What are we going to pick up a book? That's lame. No, we're going to watch the same VHS tape 700 times until the tape runs thin and runs out and snaps and half.
Starting point is 02:30:05 You know what? I know. It was a better time. No cell phones. No internet. Play outside till the sun went down. Good customer service. I don't care if I sound like an old. FIFA wasn't charging $1,500.
Starting point is 02:30:16 for tickets. I have many details on VHS, repeat. Yeah. You know what they're doing next? It's really going to chap everybody if you do this sort of thing. So you know how if you get a newer, newish vehicle these days, the Apple CarPlay or Android, if you're a third world citizen, to run your music through during, like on your cars, like it's the whole, they're going to start charging for access to that. What? Starting in, I believe, 2028 vehicles.
Starting point is 02:30:43 They're going to start charging like a $10 fee. Like a satellite radio fee. I will not be, I will not be buying a 2028 vehicle. That's all the more reason. Do we have to squeeze every nickel out of everything? See? Come on, man.
Starting point is 02:30:53 That's the reason you should download the free I-Hart radio app. Why can't we have nice things? Yeah, free on the Iheart radio app. You'll never charge you for that. For now. No, it should be free. Seriously. It's been free every time it came out.
Starting point is 02:31:06 There's an ad that pops up, but it's like one ad and then you're good. Yeah. It's not a big deal. Yeah, that's true. It's terrible. Hey, look who's in here. You made me sad. Who?
Starting point is 02:31:15 Adam Wexler. I think he's getting really excited for this for this Scotland Morocco game. No, wait, who is this? I don't know. Oh, Switzerland versus Bosnia Erzogovina. You throw out the record books when those two countries get together. I'm sure you do.
Starting point is 02:31:31 Yes, you do. Wherever the hell this game is. Los Angeles. Okay. A lot of games in L.A. Crowd looks pretty full. Sofi Stadium. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:31:39 There's a lot of, you know, L.A. known for their Bosnian culture. All right, that's going to do it. Futz isn't even on the air and he's shaking his head. For Matt Thomas show with Ross without Matt Thomas. Let's see. Thanks to Brian Bogusevick for hanging out for a couple hours. I appreciate him. Thanks to all of you who called, listened, tweeted,
Starting point is 02:31:56 texted, got involved in the show. I appreciate you. Thanks to Jonathan Allen, producing the entire show. I appreciate him. And thanks to Mr. Adam Clanton for hanging out in the last hour and making a number of Boogie Nights references. I will talk to you folks tomorrow at 10 a.m. at Poor Behavior
Starting point is 02:32:12 in Midtown. We'll also be there for USA versus Australia. P-O-U-R behavior. Come check us out tomorrow 10 a.m. here on Sports Talk 7-9.

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