The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1276 - States Are Now Passing Laws Against ‘Fatphobia’
Episode Date: December 12, 2023Today on the Matt Walsh Show, there is a movement growing to ban "fat phobia" nationwide. But how do these insane laws work in practice? We'll discuss. Also, when it rains it pours for the president o...f Harvard. Now she finds herself embroiled in a plagiarism scandal. And a woke Hollywood actress tries to explain to Bill Maher why it's "not funny" to joke about trans people. Finally, Will Ferrell declares that it's time for women to run the world. But would that actually make anything better? Ep.1276 - - - DailyWire+: Shop the NEW Jeremy’s Women’s Collection here: https://bit.ly/3RCphRM Watch the official Lady Ballers movie trailer now: https://bit.ly/3R1dM5b Shop my merch collection here: https://bit.ly/3EbNwyj - - - Today’s Sponsors: Birch Gold - Text "WALSH" to 989898 to check out Birch Gold’s Holiday Deals! Get FREE Silver today! https://birchgold.com/Walsh 40 Days for Life - Help defend free speech today! https://bit.ly/3LfFsAf Ruff Greens - Get a FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag http://www.RuffGreens.com/Matt Or call 844-RUFF-700 ZipRecruiter - Rated #1 Hiring Site. Try ZipRecruiter for FREE! http://www.ZipRecruiter.com/WALSH - - - Socials: Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3Rv1VeF Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3KZC3oA Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3eBKjiA Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RQp4rs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Today in the Matwell show, there's a movement growing to ban fat phobia nationwide.
But how do these insane laws actually work in practice?
We'll discuss.
Also, when it rains, it pours for the president of Harvard.
Now she finds herself embroiled in a plagiarism scandal.
and a woke Hollywood actress tries to explain to Bill Marr why it's, quote, not funny to joke about trans people.
Finally, Will Ferrell declares that it's time for women to run the world, but would that actually make anything better?
We'll talk about all that and more today on the Matt Wall Show.
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I'm going to begin the show today with a topic that's not quite as heavy as some of the
topics we've covered recently, but still one that is heavy in a different sense of the word.
With a lot of fanfare, a movement has been underway in this country for some time to outlaw
the idea of being fatphobic, which of course literally means fear of fat people.
Now, of course, like most of the other new phobias that have been discovered in the past 15 minutes or so,
fat phobia is a misnomer. It doesn't exist. I mean, no one's really afraid of fat people,
just like no one's afraid of people who call themselves transgender. People are afraid
of being fat, however, which makes sense. A fear of obesity is really just a fear of heart
disease and early death, which are both things that a normal person is afraid of, or at least
interested in avoiding.
But this is still not a fear of other people who are fat.
Now, it's true that many Americans have, let's say, an aesthetic aversion to morbid obesity,
but that's also understandable.
For lots of deeply ingrained biological reasons, humans have come to value traits like
physical fitness.
We also tend to prefer that women look like women and men look like men,
because that's how the species propagates itself.
This is human nature.
The only way to outlaw it is to outlaw humanity.
And increasingly, it looks like that is indeed the goal.
Earlier this year in New York City, fat activists successfully campaigned to enact a law
that makes it illegal to discriminate against people on the basis of their weight.
And what this means in practice is that every employer that fires a fat person in the city of New York
can now look forward to an investigation from the city's commission on human rights
because it might be a human rights violation
to fire someone who happens to be fat.
Watch.
Another fight for equality across the board,
New York City taking steps to ban discrimination
based on someone's weight or height.
I would say, reporter Dala Miles has the story.
I prefer fat.
I think that using that, you know,
it takes away any of the negative connotation.
Embracing the word fat.
That's what Victoria Abraham does on her social media accounts,
using the handle fat, fat, fat feminist.
The 22-year-old has the attention of more than 120,000 followers.
In most places in the United States, you can get fired for being fat and have no protection at all,
which is crazy because this is a very fat country.
The passage of the bill Thursday means New York now joins poor other cities with weight discrimination laws on the books
and Michigan and Washington State.
Are there gaps in this bill for sure?
But I think this is a perfect first step.
So there are still gaps in the bill, remarks the fat activist.
And if there's one thing that fat activists want to ensure, it's that there are no gaps anywhere.
They want to fill that space.
They want to fill every space.
And they're going to expand their ranks until they've accomplished that objective.
They certainly don't want anyone to lose weight.
They don't want to reduce the number of people who die due to obesity in this country,
which is one in six by some estimates.
That would make too much sense.
The last thing they want is to encourage Americans to become less obese.
Instead, as you just heard, they want to reorder all of society so that we can accommodate
the morbidly obese.
And to that end, the New York legislation bans discrimination on height and weight in the areas
of housing, the workplace, and public accommodation.
Now, the only real exception is for jobs where, in the eyes of New York City politicians,
it is, quote, essential for people to be physically fit.
Now, what does that mean exactly?
And how often have people actually been fired for being obese in New York?
Well, those are good starter questions when you're talking about passing a sweeping new law like this,
which has ramifications for every business in the city.
And yet no one has any answer to either of them.
What little data we do have doesn't seem very credible.
For example, there's one study on fat phobia that was cited by the
the Washington Post recently, and using data from 1979, the paper concludes that, quote,
a woman's hourly pay can drop by almost 2% for every one unit increase in BMI.
You know, it's a standard story. We've all heard it. A woman gets called into the boss's office
and told that she's getting a pay cut because she's too fat. Happens all the time, right?
except for the fact that it never happens at all.
And if it did, by the way,
if your pay dropped by that amount
for every one unit increase in BMI,
well, lots of people in this country
would be getting paid like negative $50,000 a year at this point.
They would be getting charged money to go to work
if that's actually how it worked.
The whole premise is absurd,
and yet, as a Daily Mail reports this week,
these laws against fat phobia
are becoming increasingly common.
Even Colorado, which is the thinest state
in the entire country, the one that is presumably the least fatphobic, is now about to pass a law
outlawing discrimination on the basis of weight. And that would be the first time a law like
this has been passed statewide in decades. Michigan apparently passed a law banning discrimination
based on weight around 50 years ago, followed by Washington state. But now it's becoming trendy.
And so Vermont, Massachusetts, New Jersey are all looking to do the same, along with a bunch
of other cities as well, they're looking to pass their own ordinances. But Colorado is unique
because it's a state that even accepting these fat activist standards
would seem to need these protections the least.
Their obesity rate is just 25%,
which is, sadly, quite low by U.S. standards.
But they're about to get some new regulations
for the benefit of the morbidly obese.
According to the Hill, quote,
the law aims to prevent landlords from denying rentals
based on weight limits
and to implement workplace accommodations for overweight Americans.
Now, you're supposed to accept that explanation of the law on face value, but it does raise a couple of obvious questions.
First of all, how big do you have to be to exceed the weight limit for an apartment building?
And second, what kind of accommodations our workplace is supposed to make for the obese?
Well, it's hard to get a straight answer to either of these questions, but if you look around on social media, you will find some more specific proposals.
You might have seen this TikTok video that was everywhere a few weeks ago.
We played it on the show.
It features Jalen Cheney, who's a self-described travel and lifestyle creator based in Vancouver.
And here she is to give you some idea of what these fat activists want and what kind of accommodations they're looking for.
Let's watch that again.
I'm on a mission to revolutionize the travel industry and making a more accessible, accepting, accommodating place for all.
The needs of plus-size travelers matter just as much as anybody else.
And today I'm going to cover what we are looking for, an accessible, size-inclusive hotel.
size inclusive hotel amenities are crucial for ensuring that plus-sized travelers feel welcomed,
accommodated, and comfortable during their stay.
We deserve an environment that respects our needs and body diversity.
These are the exact steps that hotels can take to be more size-inclusive and accessible
for travelers of all sizes.
Number one on the list, provides sturdy wider chairs without armrests.
In guest rooms, lobbies, and common areas to accommodate different body sizes and types.
Number two on the list, ensure beds with strong support and a higher weight capacity, along
with providing reinforced chairs and wider backing facilities. Number three, make elevators and
hallways spacious to allow for easy movement of larger individuals and those utilizing mobility devices.
Number four, install grab bars and showers and near toilets. Offer adjustable handheld showerheads
and raise toilet seats for added accessibility. Number five, train staff to be respectful,
understanding, and accommodating to travelers of all sizes. So Cheney is basically
demanding that every hotel and restaurant in the United States be raised to the ground and rebuilt
with new super wide hallways and wide bathrooms and elevators. She also wants to make life worse
for everyone else, including by removing chairs with armrests and rooms, common areas, etc.
Separately, she's also demanded that airlines provide extra free seats to obese people so that they
have room to spread out. She said, quote, as plus size travelers, my partner and I have
unfortunately experienced discrimination and discomfort while flying.
Now, she doesn't care about the discomfort that she causes as non-obesce passengers on the plane.
Really, what she's saying is that she doesn't want those people on the plane at all.
She wants their seats for free.
And she's not alone.
The DEI website Feminuity assembled a list of similar demands on behalf of fat activists.
And here are just a few of them, quote, communal spaces like dining areas, conference rooms, and relaxation rooms should have furniture like chairs, desks, sofas,
and tables that are inclusive of fat people.
It's best to avoid stools, tiny benches, or chairs with rigid armrest.
Creating a fat inclusive office also means rethinking every inch of the space.
Avoid tight corners.
Yes, rethink every inch of space.
Remodel your entire building for the sake of people who have eaten so much that they can no longer
comfortably walk down the hallway or sit in a chair.
chair. These are the demands, and they're actually being met. In London a few years ago,
the mayor banned ads featuring attractive women in swimsuits from appearing on public transit.
One of the ads asked, are you beach body ready? And that's hate speech in London now, evidently.
Tens of thousands of people signed a petition to get the ads removed. They even vandalized it with
graffiti. And ultimately, they got what they wanted. In this country, the School of Public Health
at the University of Illinois, Chicago, recently proposed that the word obesity should be banned
entirely. As the independent reported, the university claims that weight discrimination remains,
quote, one of the only forms of discrimination actively condoned by society, which is obviously
not remotely true. And the university knows it's not true because they had an affirmative action
plan, which discriminates against whites and Asians in all aspects of admissions and hiring.
I mean, that's one of the most blatant forms of discrimination imaginable,
and also one of the worst, because it's based on something people can't control.
But they condone that, they participated in that, they practiced it.
And that's the thing about alleged discrimination against the obese.
Now, most of these examples of discrimination are just made up and ridiculous,
but even if there was some discrimination that was actually going on,
you know, it wouldn't be in the same ballpark as discrimination based on something like,
race. Because obesity, no matter what anybody says, is a choice. It is the result of a deliberate
lifestyle. Obesity is a consequence of behavior. If you are 400 pounds and feeling discriminated
against, well, you put yourself in that position. And the good news is that you can get yourself
out of it. A white man facing affirmative action discrimination can't do anything to be not white.
But an obese person can and should, and for his own health, must do something to make himself not obese.
You know, obese people have become the next big victim group in America, but they are, like so many of the new modern victim groups, victims of their own behavior.
And that's why this is such a growing and popular victim group, because, you know, anyone can eat their way into it.
Just lie on the couch and gorge yourself on Pringles, and very soon you too will be able to recast any criticism of you as bigotry.
You too will be handed a get out of accountability free card.
You too can claim that anyone who upsets you or disagrees with you or annoys you is some kind of ist or foe or foe.
Or foe.
And in this way, the fat acceptance movement is no different from any other foe victimhood movement in the country.
But it does stand apart to some extent as perhaps the most.
most farcical example of modern society's kind of me-first ethos.
The whole idea behind the movement is that the world should rearrange itself for the sake
of making room for the morbidly obese. And they mean that literally. We need to literally
rearrange the furniture so that these people can fit inside the room. So it's really on the nose
to the point of absurdity. And of course, the much easier, more cost-effective, fairer,
more sane approach is for the morbidly obese to make some simple lifestyle changes so that they can
more easily include themselves in these spaces. Like if you walk into a space and you say, I can't be
included in the space because I literally can't fit here, then there are things that you can do
and changes you can enact immediately that will fix that problem. The problem is that that puts the
onus on the individual. That requires willpower and sacrifice. And that can never be allowed.
You know, in our age, everyone else must sacrifice so that the individual sacrifices nothing.
The self reigns supreme. Everyone else must bow to the self. Society must change for the sake
of the self. Civilization must reorder itself. The world must
stop on its access and spin the opposite direction, if that is what the self demands.
The self must be required to do nothing, and the world has to do everything.
Now, the problem, of course, is that every individual is part of the world,
which is how you end up with these self-serving laws that hurt the people they're supposedly
trying to help.
When you try to have a society where each individual is a God whose wishes and proclivities
and demands trump the good of humanity of society, you end up with a predictable mess.
You end up with decay and collapse and confusion.
And we've seen this confusion for a while now.
A decade ago, New York banned large sodas in order to make everybody skinnier.
And now they're mandating that everybody treat obesity as if it's natural and healthy.
But no matter what, the one thing politicians don't want to do because it would diminish their power
is to let people make their own choices.
And yeah, that includes the freedom to eat and drink to extraordinary excess.
But also, more importantly, it includes the freedom to criticize those who do.
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In fact, they've increased a number.
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This success has come with new unwanted attention from the DOJ.
40 days just made national headlines because they're suing the DOJ on behalf of their volunteer,
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at 40 Days for Life.com. That's 40 Days for Life.com. Well, it's been a tough time for the people
running Ivy League schools recently. You have to feel sort of sorry for them. And by
feel sorry for them, I mean laugh hysterically in their face. So let's start with the most recent
controversy from the Daily Wire. It says, embattled Harvard University President
Claudine Gay responded Monday to mounting allegations of plagiarism.
saying that she stands by her work.
Journalist Chris Rufo,
a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute,
published a report on Sunday outlining what he indicated
to be three instances of gay plagiarizing
per Harvard's standards in the dissertation,
taking charge, black electoral success
and the redefinition of American policies.
Now, notably, Gay is already facing mounting pressure
to be removed since her shocking testimony
during a congressional hearing on anti-Semitism
in colleges and universities.
Gay told the Boston Globe, quote,
I stand by the integrity of my scholarship.
Throughout my career, I have worked to ensure that my scholarship adheres to the highest academic standards.
In addition to other questionable instances, Gay is accused of lifting nearly verbatim,
work from Lawrence Bobo and Franklin Gilliam in their paper called Race,
sociopolitical participation, and black empowerment.
Rufo cited Harvard's own policy on paraphrasing and plagiarism to underscore his point.
And you can look at his report, which I'd recommend doing for,
all the specific examples. But it's, I mean, it's clear cut. Like, she didn't, she, she, she,
you can find, you know, verbatim, she takes something that was written here, and then she puts it
in her work, and she doesn't put quotes around it, which is, that's plagiarism. You know,
I didn't go to college. I'm not a scholar, but even I know that that's plagiarism. And there's a lot
more to this story. And as is often the case with these kinds of things, there are more and more
revelations and stories coming out about Claudine Gay. So this plagiarism revelation from Rufo
appears to be the tip of the iceberg. And usually, you know, plagiarism is one of those things
that if it turns out that somebody did it one time, you can be pretty certain that there
are going to be many other examples of it. It's just one of those things. You probably don't
dabble in it for the first time in your PhD dissertation.
or whatever. That's probably not the first time or the last time. So, you know, it appears to be a pretty
open-and-shot case. Of course, predictably, so far Harvard is standing by Claudine Gay. Everybody
is kind of circling the wagon, and that's what you expect, because they absolutely cannot admit
that Harvard's first black president, and a woman, a woman at that, first black president,
also a female president, is actually a plagiarist.
They can't admit it.
I mean, they will never admit that.
Because then they'll be tacitly admitting that this black woman got the job
because she's a black woman.
She was not fit for the job.
She got it because of her identity.
She is a diversity hire who made her way to the top.
When I say made her way to the top,
I really mean she was carried, she was escorted to the top
because her identity is convenient, and it's what they want.
And you know what?
There are a lot of conservatives who are upset that Harvard is circling the wagons around their university president.
I'm fine with it.
In fact, I'm glad that they're—honest to God, I'm glad.
I'm glad that Harvard—Harvard's board just put out a statement unanimously standing by Claudine Gay.
We don't care if she's a plagiarist.
She's our plagiarist.
That's not exactly what they said. I'm paraphrasing.
And that's fine. It's good, actually.
And I'll tell you why it's good because it gives the system nowhere to hide.
It shows you exactly where these universities stand.
I mean, if Harvard's board had come out and issued some kind of perfunctory condemnation of the plagiarism or even kicked her to the curb and whatever, then I think what would happen is that very cluelessing.
people might be fooled into thinking that the universities are cleaning up their act.
But they're not, and they never will.
So hopefully now even the most clueless people can see what's actually happening.
And that is that the system is lost.
The universities are lost.
The Ivy League universities.
The whole university system is lost.
It's just done.
It's over.
And if there's any solution,
it is just burning the whole system to the ground and starting over.
There is no reform.
This is not something where they can fire a couple of people,
and everything will be fine.
I mean, even if they were to fire, Claudine Gay, which, I mean, she deserves me fired.
So that would be good because then she individually gets the disgrace and shame
that she so richly deserves.
But so who are they going to put in their place?
You think they're going to find somebody better to put it in her place?
You think they could go out and find some like highly qualified white male to take or play?
It would never happen.
In fact, they'd find some other diversity hired to replace this one.
So the more obvious, I'm at the point now where with the university system, the more obvious they make it to everyone, the better it is.
because that's really our only hope.
Because when people look at this system and they say it's just, it's hopeless.
I'm not going to send my kids into this.
I'm not going to give this system my money.
Meanwhile, there is this anti-semitism scandal,
which is also encompassing the Ivy League,
the New York Post with the latest on that.
Former University of Pennsylvania president, Liz McGill's resignation,
has been met with celebration and calls for the heads of Harvard and MIT
to also step down over their failures,
to condemn anti-Semitism on campus.
Many saw McGill's resignation on Saturday as the beginning of woke university presidents
facing consequences for failing to condemn students and their calls for the genocide of Jews,
though others believed it was a win for the censorship of pro-Palestinian voices.
One down, two to go.
New York Representative Elise Stefannick posted on X following McGill's announcement.
This, by the way, is basically exactly what I'm talking about.
One university president steps down and everyone celebrates,
Yeah, you see, we won that one.
One down, two to go.
Okay, who was that that's Liz McGill?
Who's taking her place?
Somebody better?
Really?
Do you think so?
It's finally a backlash against the woke.
Really, you think they're going to put a non-woke university president in her place?
Of course not.
But still, there's this full court press against the Ivy League system.
and really against the university system as a whole right now,
all because of the anti-Semitism.
And it's not just Republicans that are going after the system right now.
Lots of Democrats have joined in.
The corporate media is on board, at least to some extent.
So, for example, Farid Zaharia, a guy on CNN, anchor on CNN,
he had a long monologue over the weekend,
calling out the university system for being too political and ideological.
And I want to just watch a little bit of this monologue. Let's watch.
When one thinks of America's greatest strengths, the kind of assets the world looks at with admiration and envy,
America's elite universities would long have been at the top of that list.
But the American public has been losing faith in these universities for good reason.
Three university presidents came under fire this week for their vague and indecisive answers
when asked whether calling for the genocide of Jews
would violate their institutions' codes of conduct.
But to understand their performance,
we have to understand the broad shift
that has taken place at elite universities,
which have gone from being centers of excellence
to institutions pushing political agendas.
People sense the transformation.
As Paul Tuff has pointed out,
the share of young adults
who said a college degree was very important
fell from 74% in 2013 to just 41% in 2019.
In 2018, 61% of those polls said higher education
was headed in the wrong direction,
and only 38% felt it was on the right track.
In 2016, 70% of America's high school graduates
were headed for college.
Now that number is 62%.
This souring on higher education
makes America an outlier among all advanced nations.
American universities have been neglecting a core focus on excellence
in order to pursue a variety of agendas,
many of them clustered around diversity and inclusion.
It started with the best of intentions.
Colleges wanted to make sure young people of all backgrounds
had access to higher education and felt comfortable on campus.
But those good intentions have morphed into a dogmatic ideology
and turn these universities into places
where the pervasive goals
are political and social engineering,
not academic merit.
Okay, so, yeah, you think?
Which is kind of my reaction when I see stuff like this.
And the reason I'm playing that is because,
well, it's notable in one, sort of.
It seems on the surface notable
because this is on CNN, and they're saying all this,
universities are too political.
I mean, like five years ago, it's unthinkable that anybody in CNN would say this,
especially not in a six-minute monologue.
And that goes on for another four or five minutes where he elaborates on this.
And also, he's getting a lot of props from conservatives.
The way that I saw this monologue is on Twitter, a bunch of conservatives sharing it and saying,
yeah, it's great stuff on CNN.
I can't believe it.
But I don't give it a lot of credit.
Now, everything he says here is correct, but, well, not everything.
He's wrong about one big thing, which is he says that, well, all this stuff is well intention.
Well intention, it's well intention, but it's just gone, it's gone too far.
That's what you find people on the left, even when they sort of start to, it seems, wake up to the problems of what we're
We're calling wokeness, which is really just leftism itself, they're not really waking up to it.
Because they only see it as, well, it's well-intentioned.
It's basically pointed in the right direction, but it kind of goes too far, which is not accurate.
The problem with what we call wokeness is in the premise of it.
It's a fundamental problem.
and it is also not well-intentioned at all.
You know, the university is becoming these ideological left-wing brainwashing zones.
That was not the unintentional result of well-meaning changes that were made in the system.
That is the intention.
That's what they were trying to do and are still trying to do and have done.
But mainly, I just have trouble with this sudden willingness to criticize the universities.
I'm not going to get into it in any detail right now because I'll probably want to do a longer, discuss it in greater length tomorrow.
But for now, I'll just say that the universities have been ideologically captured for decades.
They've been a disaster for decades.
they have viciously blatantly discriminated against and heaped hatred on white people
and white men in particular for decades.
And yet none of that provoked the ire of CNN or Congress or any of these people.
They weren't having congressional hearings on it.
Like none of these people noticed the problem until the subject was anti-Semitism.
So now we're having this.
this awakening moment and congressional hearings and this whole national discussion because of
anti-Semitism running rampant on college campuses.
And I, you know, if you're focused on that problem, if you're talking about that problem,
and you were also talking about what is the far more prevalent and ubiquitous epidemic of
anti-white hatred on college campuses, if you were talking about that and now you're also
talking about this, fine. But for most of the people, especially in places like CNN, that are
discovering this willingness to criticize the university system based on their anti-Semitism,
they said nothing about that other stuff. They don't care about that. And as I said,
was there ever a congressional hearing on anti-white bigotry in the university system?
Can you even imagine there being a congressional hearing on that?
These Republicans in these hearings that get all this credit for calling you out, calling you to the carpet.
Like, okay, fine, but that doesn't take any guts.
I'd like to see at least Stephanic calling university presidents to the carpet and saying,
what about this anti-white brainwashing you guys have been doing for the last 30 years?
Will you condemn that right now?
Hey, you guys have actually brainwashed millions of people into believing that the white race is inherently bigoted and racist and that no non-white people can be racist.
You have made millions of white college students who then graduated and became adults.
you have made them
resentful
and feeling guilty
for their own racial identity
will you denounce that
will you pledge to
change that?
What changes are you making?
No, they're not having a hearing on that.
They didn't notice the problem
until the subject was anti-Semitism
which tells me
that they still don't notice the problem
or understand it.
And all this stuff about anti-Semitism
on college campuses, like it's, you've got politicians scoring some points based on it.
Nothing is really going to happen. Yeah, a couple people will get fired and they'll be replaced
with people who are worse. And nothing will change because they're not actually interested in
changing anything. They don't want to get to the heart of it. Which also means, by the way,
that the anti-Semitism piece of it also isn't actually going to change either. Because, you know,
that part of it is closer to the surface when it comes to the issues on college campuses.
And if you're just up here at the surface and you're not getting down to the core, right?
Like there's the surface here, down here is like the core of the problem.
And if you're not digging down to the core of the problem,
then whatever changes you make up here are going to be temporary at best.
Superficial, cosmetic.
And that's the problem as far as I see.
it. All right. What else we want to mention here? So I thought this story, and we've seen a lot of
this recently, and of course we've talked about the rise of AI. I mean, we have everyone's
been talking about that. Here's one of the latest innovations in AI. This is from time.
It says apps and websites that use artificial intelligence to undress women and photos are soaring
in popularity according to researchers. In September,
24 million people visited undressing websites, according to the social network analysis company,
Graphica. Many of these undressing or nudify services are popular social networks for marketing,
according to Graphica. For instance, since the beginning of this year, the number of links
advertising undressing apps increased more than 2,400% on social media, including on X and Reddit.
The services use AI to recreate an image so that the person is new.
many of the services only work on women.
These apps are part of a worrying trend of non-consensual pornography
being developed and distributed because of advances in artificial intelligence.
So that's the technology,
they can take a photo of a real person
and then run it through the AI thing
and then create pornography of that person.
Like it goes without saying that this, like we already,
know, we could guarantee that this technology has been seized upon by child predators as well.
We could guarantee that.
And when you see this kind of thing, and I've said this before, I know about with a lot of
these AI innovations, like, this should obviously be illegal.
I mean, clearly.
And I know that you make it illegal, that's not going to, that's not going to solve the problem
outright and it's difficult to enforce and or can be difficult to enforce and all that.
But it should still be illegal, clearly.
Like technology that specifically is invented to create non-consensual pornography of real people
should obviously just not be legal.
And we've got to figure out how to enforce it.
You figure out how that works.
but there should just be wide agreement.
If we're having any discussion about it,
it should be a discussion of how do you enforce it,
what can we do to root this stuff out
and find these companies that are producing
this kind of technology,
companies that are marketing it,
what can we do to shut them down legally?
That should be the conversation.
There shouldn't be any discussion
about whether or not it should be legal.
Obviously, it should not be legal.
And yet there isn't any conversation
about whether or not it should be legal, because most people, like, we just accept this.
We say, okay, well, this is what the perverts are doing now.
And we've decided that perverts have just the absolute right to do whatever they want on the
internet.
That's basically what we've decided.
And we've decided that the internet will be, and even every social media platform,
everywhere you go on the internet will be infested with the most degenerate kinds of filth imaginable.
And there's nothing that can be done about it or nothing that should be done about it
because it's all, it's our human right.
And all the people that are peddling this filth have a human right to peddle it.
This is the notion that's been widely accepted by almost everyone, it seems.
We have made ourselves impotent in the face of this sort of thing.
And we don't have to be.
That's my point.
There are a lot of things that are happening that we accept.
We don't have to accept them.
And I know for a lot of conservatives, and I've been running up against this and fighting against it for years, but for a lot of conservatives, they just kind of instinctively believe that we should never be advocating for laws against anything.
They have this small government, you know, motto and mantra that they cling to.
And so they believe that advocating for any law at all is some sort of.
betrayal of their alleged small government principles.
You got to get out of that mentality.
You have to get out of it.
Or otherwise, the smut peddlers and the degenerate freaks are just going to simply take over everything.
You can argue they already have.
But it's only going to get worse.
And this to me is just nuts.
It's nuts that we even allow this.
And it's also nuts that I'm already anticipating that based on what I'm saying right now,
there's going to be a bunch of people, I'm going to get a whole bunch of comments and messages.
You know, Matt, I agree with you on most things, but we can't make that illegal.
That's a, that's a slippery slope now.
Come on.
A slippery slope into what?
Like, sanity, decency, a culture that is actually, a culture where you can actually live and thrive and have a happy and well-adjusted life in?
Is that what we might slip and slide our way into?
Oh no, imagine that.
Okay, Bill Maher had a woman named Bella Thorne on his podcast,
and I guess Bella Thorne is an actress.
I don't know, but, yeah, she's an actress.
And this exchange on the podcast is going viral.
It's interesting, though not really for the reason that most people are saying,
but let's watch it.
There's a lot of trends.
I always see that in the paper about somebody who has switched their sex,
which I'm all, if that's what makes you,
that's that what blows your dress on?
all the way yes bad bad be who be who you are yes
claps right that makes me happy I mean I think there's some money to be made in
some sort of exchange with everyone switching where like you know if you need a penis
take a penis if you have a penis give a penis you know like if people are
becoming like men to women they're going to cut off their penis and they're
then there are women transitioning who are going to need a penis.
I feel like if there was some exchange, maybe Bitcoin could be involved.
You could, you know, no?
I just don't like joking about.
Oh, Bella.
I know that you like to, but I don't think it's funny.
Oh, for fake.
That's what a shame.
That is where you're right.
I'm sorry.
You don't have to be sorry, but I'm not sorry either.
And that is where your anxiety comes from.
There is nothing wrong with joking.
Nothing wrong about that.
It's not everybody is that sensitive.
Not everybody needs to be that sensitive.
Even the people who are doing that, I don't think would need to be offended by that.
Everybody is so easily offended.
You kids, you wake up offended.
You should get off Twitter, get off social media, and maybe you wouldn't have this anxiety.
that's like because I don't know if you're really offended or you're just worried that you're going to look offended
No, I'm 100% offended like when when I think about you know someone's trauma and someone walk the videos that I have seen
that are so like so bad and
But you can what people have to worry about walking on the street just being themselves like
fuss anxiety that's why I don't like to like joke about it because you know someone
hears it and on a public platform is so bad because you're like kind of low-key spreading like this like
oh ha ha ha ha ha first of all i think i think bill marr's idea is kind of innovative and interesting
i think he's on something you know i mean it's not it's not a business i could find myself
uh being involved in for um matters of principle but you know yeah he's kind of take a penny
leave a penny, take a penis, leave a penis, this exchange of body parts.
Maybe eventually that's where we'll end up.
But I just want to quote Bella Thorne's reasoning for why we shouldn't joke about trans people.
Okay, because I transcribed it.
Just to quote what she just said there.
She said, I'm 100% offended.
Like, when I think about, you know, someone's trauma, the videos that I've seen that are so, like, so effing bad.
And when people have to worry about walking on the street just being themselves, like, that's effing anxiety.
That's why I don't like to, like, joke about it because, you know, someone hears it.
And on a public platform, it's so bad because you're, like, kind of low-key spreading like this, like, oh, ha-ha.
And it's like, it's not funny.
Okay, that's not English.
I don't know what that is.
I mean, it's not Spanish either. It's not French. It's not German as far as I know. It's not a language. Do you understand that? That is not human language. It's not. Okay. I'm not, we won't get into the actual topic they were discussing because only one of them was discussing a topic. The other was rambling incoherently. Now, of course, she's wrong about the idea that we shouldn't joke about,
gender ideology. Obviously, we should joke about it, but I'm not going to dignify her by responding
to the point that we can only assume she was trying to make. Instead, I want you to think about the
fact that this is, I guess, a prominent, relatively prominent, relatively successful actress,
and she can't speak. She cannot speak. She's not the only one. We have millions of people in this
country who cannot speak. They cannot express their thoughts through spoken language. It's a problem.
I'm telling you, it is a problem. This is not just old guy shouting at the clouds thing.
It might be that too, but it's also true. We've got now generations of Americans who can barely
convey a thought through words. Now, I know you might say, oh, she's an actress. Of course, she's
stupid. But yeah, go back and watch interviews with actresses from like the 50s. Okay. Go back
and watch an interview with Audrey Hepburn or something. She could speak. She could articulate.
She could communicate. Even athletes and football players back then could communicate. Everybody
could. Now we have this. I don't even know what this is.
actually I do know
you know what this is you know
you just heard that
what Bella Thorne sounds like
honestly she sounds like
someone talking in their sleep
that's what it sounds like
have you ever heard
have ever heard someone
we all have
you hear someone talking in their sleep
and it's it's always
kind of a little bit
a little bit bizarre and
and mumbled and jumbled
and it's disjointed
and you can only
sort of vaguely understand what they're saying and you're not in their dreams. You're kind of
guessing at what the context might be and what it is that they're dreaming about. And that's how
people speak now. That's Bella Thor. She could have been sleeping that entire. For all I know,
she was actually asleep, that whole interview. She could have been in a coma for that interview,
and you wouldn't, there'd be no difference. Bill Maher could be sitting there interviewing her
while she is sleeping and it would sound the same and be just as intelligible or unintelligible
as the case may be. And if it was just her, I would say, it doesn't matter. It's just Bella Thorne.
Oh, you know, Bella Thorne, up to her old tricks again. You know Bella Thorne. You know how she
acts, whoever she is. But it's not just her. Again, it's her whole, it's millions of people.
This is how they all are walking around asleep, unable to project their voices and communicate their thoughts and ideas and their desires and wants and fears.
Like they can't communicate it.
And it's not like they can communicate it through written word either.
Okay, if we, you know, if we were just evolving to become or devolving to become a nonverbal
species, but that could still communicate through writing,
I could live with that.
In fact, I might even prefer that.
That wouldn't be so bad.
But they can't write either.
They communicate through written, they use pictures to communicate.
So I'm telling, like, we are going back to, we are going back in time.
We are losing our capacity for,
human communication.
And I shudder to think what the world will look like and sound like even a hundred years from now.
Can you imagine?
100 more years of progressing or regressing in that direction?
What in the world?
We are going to be walking around 100 years from now grunting.
We'll still have podcasts.
There'll still be podcasts.
And it will just be two people grunting at each other.
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David says, hi Matt, for the second time you are in fact wrong about absolute rights.
For example, the prohibition of torture, the prohibition of inhumane and degrading treatment,
the prohibition of slavery, the right to no punishment without law,
sincerely David.
I like when people sign their tweets like that.
I'm not even being ironic.
I was just complaining about people who can't communicate.
I enjoy the boomer communication.
Well, boomers can go either way when it comes to how they communicate online.
They can sometimes be even less articulate somehow.
Or can go this way, where you're signing your tweets with sincerely,
which I really do appreciate unironically.
Anyway, okay, so I said that all.
All rights are conditional and can be lost.
And you're saying that there are some rights that are absolute and that you can't lose them.
And you gave an example of, or several examples of rights that you think are absolute.
I don't know if I necessarily agree, though.
Because I could envision scenarios where it may be necessary to infringe on all of the rights you just mentioned, depending on how you define them.
So, for example, if you define slavery as just forced labor, which many people do, then no, I don't think you have the absolute right to be free from forced labor.
Because I think prisoners should be used for forced labor.
I think if you commit a crime and you go to jail, you should be, I think we should bring back forced labor in a big way.
And I don't just mean like walking down the highway and throwing garbage into a bag.
So if that's how you define slavery, then I would say, I'm not sure that I would define it that way,
but that is how some people define it. Prohibition against torture, I think, again, there could be a
scenario where if you have a bad guy and he has some piece of information that will save hundreds
of lives and you need to torture him to get it, I think that could be okay. Now, obviously,
many people have been tortured under those pretenses and they were false pretenses.
So in practice, it often doesn't work out the way.
But I'm saying in theory, I can see a scenario where that would be morally justified.
Think about, like, obviously, this is a fiction, it's a Hollywood film, but Liam Neeson and taken, you know, he's trying to find his daughter, he's been kidnapped by sex traffickers, and he's going through wherever he was.
I think he was in France.
And he's just like shooting and torturing people to get the information he needs to rescue his daughter before it's too late.
totally fantastical scenario, but
in, you know, I think in theory, that can be justified.
Prohibition against punishment without due process.
Yeah, in almost all circumstances.
But again, I mean, let's say society breaks down.
We're back in the Stone Age.
We don't have a system of law in place, but we need a way to punish dangerous people,
segregate them from society or get rid of them entirely for the sake of, you know,
of keeping the order.
and then you need to be able to punish people
without any kind of a court system in place.
So these are, you know, I'm just talking about,
we were talking about absolute, right?
I'm talking about the extreme cases in theory,
but I still think there's a point here
about rights not being absolute.
It's an interesting question anyway.
Let's see, Stephen says,
quoting me, most of the great things of history
were done for the sake of legacy.
Then he says,
sometimes I swear Matt is this close to becoming an atheist.
He almost gets it.
Men like Michelangelo and Mozart weren't trying to glorify God but themselves.
And what else does greatness need really?
So you're just presuming to know the intentions of men who created beautiful art, you know, centuries ago.
But if you listen to their own testimony, in particular, Michelangelo, he was in fact trying to glorify God.
I guess this is what you do if you're an atheist.
You just take an example like that and say, yeah, they say, Michael Angelo, he may have claimed
that he was creating all these beautiful, amazing, jaw-dropping, historically significant works
of art to glorify God, but I know what he was really up to.
And the comment says, I don't think you understand what stereotype means and how they can be harmful.
Stereotyping is generalizing about a group of people.
when you generalize about someone because they're part of a group,
that doesn't mean that that person fits the stereotype.
That's not what stereotyping.
Stereotyping does not have to mean
that you're taking an individual in saying,
oh, they must behave this way because they're part of this group.
In fact, that is not what a stereotype is.
Stereotypes are about groups.
Now, people may come to false conclusions based on stereotypes.
Stereotypes may be applauded.
in ways that are unfair and sort of ridiculous.
That can happen.
But a stereotype is just, yeah, it's a, it is a, it is a, it is a, it is a generalization
about groups.
But you can only speak about groups in general terms because it's a group.
And it's not going to be, whatever you say in general about a group isn't going to be
specifically true about each, each individual down to the last man.
but you can look at groups of people, whether it's a demographic group or any other group,
you can look at a group of people, and you can observe tendencies, behavioral traits,
all kinds of things.
And you could say, in general, this group of people tends to act this way, which is one of the ways that, one of the things that makes this group distinct.
I mean, the very fact that you can talk about a group at all, that you can say, here's
this group and then that group. Being able to do that in the first place means that you're able
to stereotype because you are making generalized observations that distinguish this group from
another. And my only point about stereotyping is that that's all that a stereotype is.
It is an observation that has been made about the tendencies of particular groups.
It's really kind of new. It's like a morally neutral thing. Whether the tendency that's being
observed is negative or positive, it's been observed. It's just that's the tendency. And,
you know, the real, although people can come to false conclusions based on stereotypes,
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Well, there are many candidates for today's daily cancellation, but ultimately when faced with a surplus of potential canceles, I have to simply go with whichever one I find the most personally annoying. And for that, we turn to Will Ferrell, an actor who, as it happens, and I went back and checked, hasn't started a good comedy since 2008 with Stepbrothers. But that's not why he's canceled today. He's canceled for this, as the Blaze reports, quote, actor Will Ferrell told a group of mostly women that it's time for them to take over the world when he gave open.
Remarks for the Women and Entertainment Gala hosted by the outlet, the Hollywood Reporter.
Farrell likely earned a spot at the gala because he co-owns a production company focused on
female-led television and movie productions called Gloria Sanchez Productions, founded in 2014,
as a division of his existing production company.
Farrell went on to plead with actress Carrie Washington to run for president,
joking that the gala could start a GoFundMe page to raise money for her campaign.
The anchorman actor noted that Washington would receive the Equity in Entertainment Award
and recognition for her work, quote,
amplifying the voices of underrepresented communities
in the entertainment industry and beyond.
Now, it's hard for me to imagine an award
that could possibly be more meaningless
than the Equity and Entertainment Award.
This is an award that would win the award
for most meaningless award,
which somehow would be a more meaningful award
than the Equity and Entertainment Award itself.
But also, just for the record,
it is, of course, a total misnomer
that black people are underrepresented
in the entertainment industry.
In fact, according to the job site Zipia.com,
13% of professional actors are black,
which is precisely in line
with the overall black population in the United States.
So far from being underrepresented,
they are exactly, specifically, correctly represented.
But that's not really the point.
Yeah, there was a lot of groveling
to, quote-unquote, people of color
going on at the women and entertainment gala.
But most of the groveling was to women,
as you might expect, given the name of the gala.
And on that end, here's Wilfair.
Forget about the entertainment world.
Isn't it just time?
Isn't it just time for women to run the planet?
I mean, I'm not just trying to placate you, I swear.
But I don't know what else to do because we, men, we've been running the show since, what, 10,000 BC, something like that.
And we're not doing so good.
please, can you guys just take over?
Now, I understand this is mostly just the typical Hollywood girl power schick.
I also realize that this is coming from Will Farrell, who's not exactly known for his wisdom or insight.
Still, it's worth pointing out that everything he said there, which is the kind of thing you hear all the time these days, is absolute nonsense.
So let's start at the end.
He says that men have been running things since 10,000 BC, and we, quote, haven't been doing so good.
Now, it's a bit of a confusing sentence, even leaving aside the poor grammar, when he says
we haven't been doing so good, does he mean that things have started to decline recently?
Or is he saying that we haven't been doing so good the whole time?
Now, if the former doesn't really make sense because men have never been less in charge than they
have been in recent years, so if you think things that have been going poorly recently,
as women have increasingly taken charge, it's hard to see how even more women in charge
will fix that.
but we'll get back to that in a moment. On the other hand, if you're saying that men have been
screwing things up the entire time since 10,000 BC, then I guess I need to know how well you think
we should be doing at this point. After all, what have men done since 10,000 BC? Well,
nothing really, I guess, except build civilization. Almost every major advancement and achievement
in the history of mankind since the dawn of human society itself has been.
been made by a man. Not all of them, but most of them, I mean, most of them that you can name have been
achieved by a man. That's just a fact. Things haven't been perfect, of course. We're talking about
the whole span of civilization's existence. It's not going to be a smooth sailing the whole time,
but mostly through male leadership, we went from mud huts to walking on the moon in a few
thousand years. Now, I have nothing to compare it to. Neither does Will Farrell, but
But I think that's pretty impressive.
That's not bad.
Is that not good enough for Will Ferrell?
Is it not fast enough?
Is there any reason at all to think that women, if they were solely in charge, would have done better?
Is there any reason to think that humanity's prospects in the future will be improved by getting more women into leadership positions?
Well, we don't really have to speculate about that.
You know, society has run through institutions.
And those institutions have increasingly elevated women to leadership roles over.
the past several decades. And on Will Ferrell's theory, and on the theory of any feminist or
anyone else who's adopted this line, we should be able to look around and see that these
institutions have measurably and significantly improved due to the rapid dramatic rise in female
leadership. But do we see that? Have the deliberate specific efforts to increase the proportion
of women in leadership roles
actually helped
any institution thrive.
Can you name a single institution
that has been improved
by these efforts to put more women
into positions of leadership?
It's a question.
Now, I posted this question on Twitter yesterday,
and predictably lots of people were very upset
at me for asking an uncomfortable question.
Even more predictable,
lots of people missed the point entirely
and started naming individual women
who were great leaders,
like Queen Isabella and Catherine the Great,
who both presided over governments comprised almost entirely of men, by the way.
But that's besides the point.
I'm not asking whether there have ever been any great individual female leaders in the history of mankind.
Of course there have been.
I'm certainly not asking whether there have ever been any impressive,
wonderful, competent, intelligent women in the world.
Obviously, there have been many of those.
I should know.
I married one of them.
But the question is whether any institution has been quantifiably improved
by the effort to increase as a percentage the number of women in leadership roles.
Perhaps another way of asking this is this, has the deliberate feminization of any institution
helped it succeed?
Can you look at anything now, after years of trying to get women more involved and into
the leadership ranks, and say, wow, that institution is doing way better than it was before?
If you can give an example, then give it.
But I don't think you can.
I don't think anyone can.
I think instead we all recognize, even if we don't want to admit it, that every institution or field that you can name has become less effective and less productive and less competent and less impressive as women have been moved up the ranks and leadership has been diversified.
Now, this is certainly true of the military, academia, law enforcement, the sciences, medicine, even the film industry.
Now, it's true, you know, and that's true, most of all, by the way, of the two most important institutions in society, which is the church and the family.
The church in this country has fallen apart as it's been feminized, and the institution of the family has done the same as society has insisted that women should be at the head of it.
You know, you can't deny that the family is much more female-led today than an ever-housed.
has been in the history of the world, and you also can't really deny that the family is weaker
and more unstable than it's ever been in the history of the world. Now, correlation does not
prove causation, but there's a lot of correlation here across basically every institution in the
modern world. Enough to, we might say, seriously call into question the idea that the world can
be fixed by putting women in charge of it. And certainly enough to say that Will Farrell is today
Canceled.
That'll do it for the show today.
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for listening.
Talk to you tomorrow.
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