The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1382 - Outrage Erupts Over Black Republican Who Says Black Family Was In Better Shape During Jim Crow. He's Right.
Episode Date: June 6, 2024Today on the Matt Walsh Show, Republican representative Byron Donalds is being attacked by the media and the Left for nostalgically pining for the days of Jim Crow. Except that's not what Donalds actu...ally did, of course. In fact, he made an important point that people should pay attention to. Also, Deborah Birx is back with a new virus to fearmonger about. WNBA players cry harassment after being politely asked a question. And what the hell is "queer time theory?” Is it as nonsensical as it sounds? Of course it is. We'll talk about all of that and more today on the Matt Walsh Show Ep.1382 - - - DailyWire+: Father’s Day Deal: Get 15% off your Jeremy’s Razor: https://bit.ly/49kXXgI Get 25% off your DailyWire+ Membership here: https://bit.ly/4akO7wC Get your Matt Walsh flannel here: https://bit.ly/3EbNwyj - - - Today’s Sponsors: ExpressVPN - Get 3 Months FREE of ExpressVPN at http://www.ExpressVPN.com/WALSH BJU Press - Learn how BJU Press can help you prepare your kids for a future full of possibilities at http://www.HomeSchoolHelp.com/WALSH - - - Socials: Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3Rv1VeF Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3KZC3oA Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3eBKjiA Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RQp4rs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, Republican Representative Byron Donald's is being attacked.
by the media and the left for nostalgically pining for the days of Jim Crow, except that's not
what Donald's actually did, of course. In fact, he made an important point that people should be
paying attention to. Also, Deborah Birx is back with a new virus to fearmonger about WMA players cry
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The big political news last night was that Donald Trump has supposedly started sending vetting materials and questionnaires to a variety of potential vice presidential nominees.
The names include Doug Bergam, Marco Rubio, Byron Donald's, Elise Steffinick, J.D. Vance, and Tim Scott.
Of course, the list is subject to change, so probably doesn't mean a whole lot at this stage.
We have no idea what to make of it exactly.
I will say that most of the names on the list, but not all, are rather uninspired.
And a few of them would be actively bad and harmful choices.
so I hope that's not the direction he goes.
At the same time, what we can be pretty sure of is that right now, and for the last several months,
the Democratic Party has been working on ways to attack every single one of those potential nominees,
of course, and none of the names on the short list are surprised.
So they've presumably been digging up opposition research and monitoring everything these politicians,
hoping they can catch a slip up or take something out of context.
That's to be expected at this point, of course.
But even with that expectation of mind, the attack that's unfolding right now in one of those potential vice
presidential candidates, Congressman Byron Donalds of Florida, is worth talking about. It's maybe the
single most revealing smear campaign of the election cycle so far. On Tuesday, Donald's was
speaking at an event in Philadelphia, along with Texas Congressman Wesley Hunt. The point of the
event, apparently, was for the Trump campaign to reach more black voters by speaking honestly
about the challenges that black communities are facing right now. Of course, the main challenge
in black communities, as I've said many times, and many other people have said,
said, is the epidemic of fatherlessness. It's the collapse of the nuclear family. It's,
it's, it's, there can't be any problem bigger than that when your nuclear family has collapsed.
Black Americans have the highest rate of out-of-wedlock births as compared to every other racial
group by far. Roughly 77% of black children born in 2015 were out of wedlock. That's the most
recent year I found data for this. Hispanics had a much lower rate at 56% but still too high.
Followed by whites at 30% and Asians at 20%.
27%, all of those numbers are too high. But with the black family, the numbers are, of course,
the highest. It's not a coincidence, by the way, that if you were to look at a list of average household
incomes in the USA by race, it would be the exact inverse of the fatherless list. So Asians have the
highest household income, followed by white, then Hispanic, then black. As far as I can tell,
these numbers have held steady for decades. They've been consistent long enough that many people
have come to believe that they're inevitable.
But that's not true.
There was, in fact, a time in American history
where whites and blacks had roughly the same chances
of growing up at a single family home.
This was a period when most black women
got married before they had kids.
And it's not ancient history we're talking about.
I'm talking about the first half of the 20th century,
and in particular the 1950s and 60s.
At the event of Philadelphia,
Byron Donald's addressed all of this directly.
He began by talking about his own personal experiences
with the fatherhood.
And then he pointed out that two parent black households weren't always an anomaly.
It didn't used to be this way.
Watch.
During Jim Crow, the back family was together.
During Jim Crow, more black people were not just conservative, because black people always
have been conservative minded, but more black people voted conservatively.
and then
H.E.W.
Lyndon Johnson, and then you
go down that road, and now we are where we are.
What's happened in America the last
10 years, and I say it's my contemporaries,
is Wesley's contemporaries.
You're starting to see more
black people
be married in
homes, raising kids.
When you home with your
wife raising your kids, and then
you look at the world, you're saying, now, wait a minute,
time out.
this does not look right.
How can I get something to my kids?
It goes back to the conversation of generational wealth.
Not just having a job.
Generational wealth.
I'm looking at my kids.
How can my kids be on my shoulders when they take off in life?
That's what's happening.
So everything that Byron Donald's just said there is true.
It's not even remotely debatable, in fact.
From 1890 to 1950, black women had an even higher marriage rate than white women.
And in the 1950s, the rates were about equal.
from the Hoover Institution, in 1950, the percentages of white and African American women aged 15 and over
who were currently married were roughly the same, 67% and 64% respectively.
But by 1998, the percentage of currently married white women had dropped by 13% to 58%.
But the drop among African American women was 44% to 36% more than three times larger.
Additionally, between 1950 and 1997, the proportion of black births to teenage unwed mothers rose by 166%.
Now, any political party that wanted to reduce black crime rates and ensure that more black children go to school, get good jobs, want to reduce poverty in the black community, would be talking about these figures nonstop.
They're clearly the key to understanding what's wrong in black communities and how to fix them.
But Democrats very desperately don't want to have that conversation because, as Brian McDonald said, it implicates them, starting with Lyndon Johnson and the great society welfare programs that arose from the civil rights era and going on from there.
Now, as the Harvard professor of Paul Peterson put it, quote,
some programs actively discouraged marriage because welfare assistance went to mothers so long as no male was boarding in the household.
Marriage to an employed male, even one earning the minimum wage, placed at risk a mother's economic well-being.
Peterson crunched the numbers and found that, quote, in 1975, a household head would have to earn $20,000 a year to have more resources than what could be obtained from great society programs.
Now, justice for inflation, that means households would need to bring in $100,000 to match what the government would give them for free.
In other words, the government was providing a massive economic incentive for poor mothers to raise children alone in single-parent homes.
And because black mothers are an extremely poor demographic group, the incentive affected black families the most.
Now, it's not to say that this is the only explanation that can account for the decline in the black family.
family unit. There's a lot else going on. You can also look at the decline of industry,
the offshoring of manufacturing jobs, the rise of feminism, which cannot be, you know,
underestimated as a factor, the influence of the entertainment industry, and so on.
But no reasonable person can doubt that a $100,000 government incentive to break up family
homes was indeed a major factor that contributed to broken homes. And a serious political party,
one that cared about black communities would learn from that disaster and immediately reform,
if not actually, abolish these kinds of welfare programs.
But the Democratic Party has no interest in acknowledging any responsibility for their role in creating
the crisis in the black community. After all, a core plank of Democratic Party mythology
is that the civil rights movement was an unbridled good and that no mistakes whatsoever were
made in the process of creating the welfare programs that have persisted for generations. So instead,
the Democrats' top representative in the House, Hakeem Jeffreys,
just decided to simply lie about everything
Biron Donald said. Watch.
Mr. Speaker, has come to my attention
that a so-called leader has made the factually inaccurate
statement that black folks were better off
during Jim Crow.
That's an outlandish, outrageous,
and out-of-pocket observation.
We would not better off when a young boy named Emmett
could be brutally murdered without consequence because of Jim Crow.
We were not better off when black women could be sexually assaulted without consequence.
Because of Jim Crow, we would not better off when people could be systematically lynched
without consequence because of Jim Crow.
We were not better off when children could be denied a high-quality education without
consequence because of Jim Crow.
We were not better off when people could be denied the right to vote without consequence because of Jim Crow.
How dare you make such an ignorant observation?
You better check yourself before you wreck yourself.
It's kind of incredible how bad this guy's Obama impression is, or maybe it's supposed to be MLK.
He kind of has the cadence down, I guess, or he's trying.
Then he starts repeatedly attacking a statement that no one made.
Byron Donald's did not say that Black America,
were better off during Jim Crow. He said black families were together during that time,
and they're not together now. Those are two distinct statements. But he keep Jeffries apparently
can't grasp the distinction, or he can grasp, but he's pretending that he can't. So he just
makes a complete fool of himself attacking a straw man over and over again until he ends by somehow
embarrassing himself even further. You better check yourself before you wreck yourself, really?
We're quoting what, ice cube songs now on the House floor? This is what passes for rhetorical genius
in the Democratic Party post-Obama.
This is the guy they'll make the Speaker of the House
if they ever get back the majority.
But, Akim Jeffries wasn't alone, of course.
The brain trust that the Congressional Black Caucus
put out a statement demanding that Byron Donald's
apologize for telling the truth.
They wrote, quote,
this is a pattern of embracing racist ideologies
that we see time and again within the MAGA Republican Party.
Representative Donald's is playing his role as the mouthpiece
who will say the quiet parts out loud
that many will not say themselves.
His comments were shameful, and beneath the dignity of a member of the House of Representatives,
he should apologize, she should immediately offer an apology to black Americans
for misrepresenting one of the darkest chapters in our history for his own political gain.
Well, they got one part right.
Byron Donald's did indeed say the quiet parts out loud.
He said the one thing the Democrats simply cannot allow anyone to say,
which is that the policies of the Democratic Party drastically increased black dependency on the government
and in the process, destabilized the family structure.
That is, which again is a fact.
And you notice that none of these people that are complaining about Byron Donalds,
none of them have even attempted to claim that he's wrong about what he actually said.
Because it's just a fact.
It's an undeniable, indisputable, verifiable fact.
And that's the third rail that Democrats don't want any politician to go anywhere near,
even though with every passing year it's getting harder and harder to deny it.
the Democratic Party has controlled pretty much every major urban center in this country for decades.
And after all that, they've only made things worse.
You know, Selma, the site of the famous civil rights marches, the city that's been run by Democrats in perpetuity,
well, they just went to virtual classes a few weeks ago, not because of COVID, but because too many children are getting shot.
Watch.
Happening now, some Selma City schools move to virtual learning today over.
concerns about gun violence.
Selma's superintendent says there were multiple shootings over the weekend.
And at the direction of local law enforcement, Selma High School and Saints Virtual Academy
Alternative Learning Center were asked to go virtual learning.
WSFA 12 news anchor Judd Davis is live in the newsroom with more.
Jen, how long will this change be in place?
Well, Beth, the schools you mentioned will be virtual for today only, at least for now,
and all other schools in Selma will not be impacted.
The school superintendent says over the weekend, there were several.
shootings involving teenagers and one teen was seriously injured. No word on where those shootings
happened or if any arrests have been made. Now we have to try to get in contact with the Selma
Police Department so far. No word back to get any new information. The school superintendent says
quote, the Selma City School District has decided to transition to virtual learning until the
suspects are apprehended or until police presence is increased in our schools. This decision comes out
of concerns of possible retaliation. So it is possible the virtual learning could be
But so far, we're told it is just for today.
Bethany.
Well, that's always a sign that you're, you know, that everything's going well in your community
when you have to shut down schools because there's so much violence.
And they're not even talking apparently about, about necessarily threats against the school
itself, but just in the community.
The community itself is so violent that you can't, it would be too dangerous for kids to go
to school.
Akeem Jeffries and the Democratic Party never talk about Selma, even though Democrats have
been running it for decades.
The city that became famous during the Civil Rights Movement remains to this day one of the poorest places in the entire country.
I mean, it's so dangerous now that they're keeping children home from school.
That doesn't necessarily mean the people of Selma were better off under Jim Crow.
However, Hakeem Jeffries wants to define better off.
But it does mean that the government certainly hasn't helped matters in the wake of the civil rights movement.
If there's ever going to be a return to normalcy in Selma and dozens of other cities like it,
then it's necessary to first acknowledge that LBJ's great society and its offshoots
haven't actually created great societies.
They've done the opposite.
Byron Donald's made that case this week.
And by completely melting down in response,
Democrats in the House have admitted, basically, that he was right.
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The Hill reports Deborah Birx, a physician who served as former President Trump's coronavirus response coordinator,
warned that the United States is making the same mistakes with the bird flu as it did with COVID-19.
Burke served as the coronavirus response coordinator in Trump's administration. Of course, you remember her. She's the one with the, with all the scarves, the scarf lady. A third human case of bird flu was identified in the state of Michigan last week, according to the CDC. Like other previous cases identified since March, the person as a dairy farm worker who had exposure to infected cows. The CDC has maintained that the current public health risk in connection to the bird flu is low, but that it will continue to monitor the situation. But Deborah Brooks is very concerned about it.
Here's the clip.
Watch.
We're not testing to really see how many people have been exposed and got asymptomatically
infected.
We should be testing every cow weekly.
You can do pooled PCR.
We have the technology.
The great thing about Americas, we're incredibly innovative.
And we have the ability to have these breakthroughs.
We could be pool testing every dairy worker.
I do believe that there's undetected cases in humans, because we're once again only
tracking people with symptoms. When we did that with COVID, the virus spread throughout the northeast
undetected because it took a long time to get to the vulnerable individuals. But in the meantime,
thousands, hundreds of thousands of people were infected with asymptomatic or mild disease and never
came to medical attention. We have to switch from symptoms to actually definitive laboratory
testing. Testing, so this is what she wants to do. Test every cow.
weekly. Every cow, every week. Well, there are, I don't know if you didn't know how many cows are in the
United States. I didn't know off the top of my head, but I looked it up and at least a five second
Google search tells me there's 30 million cows in the United States. So she wants to conduct
30 million cow tests every week. That's 120 million cows tested a month. Who's doing all these
cow tests. What happens if the cow's infected? Do we kill the cow? Can we eat them? Bird flu burgers? That could be a
thing, maybe discounted. That's a nice ring to it. But Burke says that we have to be worried about
bird flu, even though there have been a tiny handful of cases that we still should be worried.
Because what about asymptomatic spread? Where have we heard that one before? Now that sounds very
familiar. In fact, this whole thing seems very familiar. Just the, I seem to remember a few
months before presidential election, there's a new virus, familiar plotline, isn't it? Which is why
it's a good thing, thankfully, the thing we can be grateful for is that these people are not
creative. They don't have any original ideas. They just repeat themselves over and over again.
it's the same script ad nauseum.
Just like in Hollywood, there's nothing but reboots and remakes with these people.
And so they're just trying the exact same thing again with this.
When, of course, in reality, there's no reason why we should even be talking about a virus that has supposedly infected three people in a country of 330 million plus people, not counting all the illegal.
immigrants.
There's no reason to even talk about it.
What should we do in response to it?
Like nothing, really?
And if you're going to be at all worried about viruses and illnesses that three people have,
there's like hundreds of scary diseases out there that are currently infecting at least a few people.
So there's no reason to talk about it, really, but the only reason that is that
But they do want to talk about, of course, as we said, a few months before the election,
this is how the script goes.
Okay, New York Times has this report, multiple Chicago Sky players, which WMBA team,
shared their accounts of being harassed outside the team's hotel in Washington, D.C. on Wednesday night,
with star rookie Angel Reese saying a teammate had a camera put in her face as she got off the bus.
Reese wrote on X, this is really out of control, and needs to stop.
The sky arrived in Washington, D.C., ahead of their game against the Washington Mystics on Thursday night.
According to the Chicago Sun Times, the team was harassed by a man targeting Kennedy Carter,
who spells her name C-H-E-N-N-E-D-Y Carter.
So it should be Chenity.
Why would you do that to your kid?
You want to name your kid Kennedy, fine.
Why would you spell C-H?
Because now you've doomed your child for the rest of her life.
She's going to have to correct people.
Every person that sees her name is going to read Chenity, and she's going to say, oh, no, it's Kennedy.
Or when she gives her name to someone, she's, oh, my name's Kennedy Carter, they're going to write it down.
No, no, no, it's with a C.H.
Why would you do that?
Just to be clever with your spelling?
Don't be clever with the spelling of a child's name.
Just give them a regular name with regular spelling.
Anyway, Kennedy Carter has received nationwide attention for hard foul on Caitlin Clark in the sky's game against Indiana fever.
We talked about that.
Sky forward Brianna Turner said she wasn't at the scene of the incident.
At the scene of the incident.
But the absurd headlines recently has certainly created an unstable environment for our safety, she says.
Sky forward Isabelle Harrison posted, thank God for security.
My teammate being harassed at our hotel is insane.
Couldn't even step off the bus.
Okay, well, these players were harassed.
They needed security.
harassed, accosted, unstable environments.
They're unsafe, out of control.
It has to stop.
It sounds pretty bad.
It sounds terrible.
And if people are harassing WMBA players, they really do need to stop.
Harassment is bad.
We can't have that.
So is this what we've come to in America that now WMBA players can't even get off a team bus without being harassed?
That's pretty rough stuff.
That's bad.
Well, fortunately, there is video evidence of this harassment.
I mean, the guy who did the quote-unquote harassing is the one who recorded it.
And so we have video of it.
And I think we'll be able to play this whole video uncensored.
It is pretty dire.
It's pretty disturbing, pretty tough to watch.
But here it is.
Ms. Carter, have you got a chance to reach out to Caitlin?
Come on with that.
Relax. Have you gotten a chance to reach out to Caitlin?
Kennedy, have you gotten a chance?
The basketball world wants to know if you've gotten a chance to reach out to her.
That was it. That was the whole thing.
You're probably watching, waiting for the, you're waiting for the harassment to start, but that was it.
So that was the harassment.
A guy standing at a distance politely asking a question.
That's harassment.
A question that's not even really a gotcha question or a hard question, not even a hostile question.
It wasn't even like, how dare you, how could you treat someone like that?
Have you had a chance to reach out to her?
That was the most innocuous question you could ask.
And that's what makes them feel threatened.
Their safety is jeopardized.
One guy with a camera asking a question for 20 seconds, that's what these women are whining about.
So it is not a big surprise, but many of these WNBA players have revealed themselves to be some of the most insufferable human beings on the planet.
And by the way, maybe that solves the mystery for you ladies in the WMBA, the ones that a lot of you are complaining that Caitlin Clark gets more attention than you do.
Well, partly it's because she's better, but also she's, you know, and I don't watch her, I don't follow WMBA NBA basketball at all, but she seems like a nice, normal, likable person, you know, just seems like a nice, like a normal person.
and you on the other hand are incredibly unlikable, just very unpleasant, annoying, whiny.
So nobody likes you.
I mean, the fans don't like you.
Most likely the people in your personal life don't even like you.
Not because of racism.
It's because of your defective personalities.
Hope that makes you feel better.
I hope that's reassuring to you.
It actually shouldn't be.
Like, I would rather be the target of racism than have people not like me because of just who
I am as a person.
So I don't know.
It makes you feel better, but that's the problem.
Whether it's Angel Reese or this other Kennedy Carter or whatever.
People don't like you.
It's not because of your race.
It's just because of who you are.
It's because of everything else about you besides that is why they don't like you.
Meanwhile, here you are getting attention like you asked.
You whined that you weren't getting attention.
now you're getting the attention you ordered.
You ordered the attention.
You pointed to it on the menu.
And you asked the waiter for it.
You said, yes, I'd like to order some attention, please.
I like the, can I get the all-you-can-eatting attention platter, please, with free refills.
And you got it.
That's what you wanted.
And now you're whining about that too.
So when people don't pay attention to you, you whine.
When people do pay attention to you, you whine.
I'm starting to think that you just want.
will whine about anything no matter what. It's almost like you're always the victim,
regardless of the circumstances. Because if you want to be famous and you want people to pay attention
and to care about the WMBA, this is part of being a famous person. Is that when you walk down
the street, somebody might come up with a camera and ask you a question. That's part of the whole thing.
It's part of the deal. But no matter what they are the victims, as we've seen.
We talked a moment ago about reboots and rehashes and sequels. Daily Wirehead has.
this. The numbers show that women and young
moviegoers just aren't showing up for the
female-led dystopian Furiosa
Mad Max saga, and it might mean the end of the
franchise. The latest Mad Max film opened domestically over the long
Memorial Day weekend
and brought in a dismal $32 million at the
box office, just barely beating the Chris Pratt-led
the Garfield movie, which earned
$31 million the same weekend.
Diving into the numbers, the Blaze news
found that between the Charlesthrone Tom Hardy
2015 Mad Max Fury Road and the newest one led by actress
Anya Taylor Joy.
Fewer women and young moviegoers turned out to watch the George Miller directed film.
2015, the film's opening weekend saw a 40% female audience compared to the latest opening,
which only had 29% female viewership.
At the same time, the film also failed to attract the coveted age demographic of ages 18 to 24,
with only 21% turning up to watch the latest Mad Max film compared to 31% who watched the one in 2015.
And so I was just doing poorly.
So Hollywood's very rough summer continues, and they were hoping that Mad Max would bail them out.
And it didn't.
I haven't seen the film, but from what I've heard, it's a decent, it's pretty good.
It does have a 90% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, both by the critics and the audience, 90% from both, which is pretty impressive.
It's kind of rare these days that critics and audience agree and to agree exactly at 90%.
So pretty impressive. I'm assuming it's a decent movie. Why isn't it performing? Well, for one thing, it's a Mad Max movie without Mad Max. And this is something Hollywood has been trying a lot recently, of course, where they put out a movie that's like in the universe, right, of some iconic character, but without that character in the film. And it rarely works. And it's working less and less. There are diminutive.
returns in this sort of thing.
And they've tried this with a lot of franchises.
They just put out
basically the worst movie of all time.
What was it called?
Madam Webb.
Madam Webb.
And it was a movie in the Spider-Man universe,
but without Spider-Man.
And it flopped and it was terrible
and everybody hated it.
Of course, because why would you want
to watch a Spider-Man movie without Spider-Man?
Why would you want a Mad Max movie without Mad Max?
And the studios do this because they're trying to milk the IP, the brand.
It's obviously why they do it.
But they still somehow don't understand just how exhausted the audience is with the same stuff over and over and over again.
Which is why if you want to tell a story about some woman in a post-apocalyptic world who goes on an adventure or whatever, then fine, tell that story.
It doesn't have to be in the Mad Max universe.
It could just be in the universe.
Just tell the story.
Not every story has to be connected to some other story.
Let it live and die on its own.
Let it stand on its own two feet.
I mean, Star Wars is the most infamous example of this.
Every five weeks, they put out another thing that's in the star.
And so it's just a, all it is now, it's just a sci-fi film or show.
that has no connection to the main, whatever, Star Wars storyline, but it's in the Star Wars universe.
Well, how about just make a, if you want to do a sci-fi show, just make a sci-fi show.
It's its own thing. It doesn't have to be in that universe.
There's a whole actual universe where you could fit a lot of stories.
And then also people are sick of the female action hero thing.
So I think that's part of this as well.
And audiences were never all that interested in female action heroes to begin with.
but now people are really tired of it.
And from what I understand, this one is not really woke feminist propaganda.
Maybe it is. I'm sure there's some of that in there.
But even if it isn't, it's still a female-led action film, and there simply isn't much interest in that.
There just isn't.
And there never has been.
With few exceptions, even after Hollywood has been pushing this for 15 years now, they've been relentlessly pushing this.
You've got to have an action movie.
It should be a female lead, and they've been pushing it, but most of the most successful and beloved and iconic action films of all time are male-led still.
And that's because, generally speaking, men make better action heroes.
They just do.
Men, generally speaking, are better suited for those roles.
And most of the time, audiences are more interested in that.
Audiences relate to them more, even female audiences.
But Hollywood's going to keep trying until, I guess, they beat us into submission with this stuff.
All right, here's quite a grim story, unfortunately.
This is from the Independent.
When Michael Bomber found out that he was terminally ill with colon cancer, he spent a lot of time with his wife, Annette,
talking about what would happen after his death.
She told him one of the things she'd missed most is being able to ask him questions whenever she wants,
whenever she wants, because he's so well read and always shares his wisdom.
That conversation sparked an idea for Bomber.
Recreate his voice using artificial intelligence to survive him after he passes away.
The 61-year-old startup entrepreneur teamed up with his friend in the U.S., Robert Lokeskio, CEO of the AI-powered legacy platform, Eternos.
Within two months, they build a comprehensive, interactive AI version of Bomber, the company's first client.
Eternos, which got its name from the Italian and Latin word for Eternos,
says its technology will allow Bomber's family to engage with his life experiences and insights even after he's dead.
It's among several companies that have emerged in the last few years,
once becoming a growing space for grief-related AI technology.
One of the most well-known startups in this area, California-based Story File,
allows people to interact with pre-recorded videos and uses its algorithms
to detect the most relevant answers to questions posed by users.
Another company called Hereafter AI offers similar interactions through a life story avidavis
that users can create by answering prompts or sharing their own personal stories.
There's also Project December a chatbot that directs users to fill out a questionnaire,
answering key facts about a person in their traits,
and then pay $10 to simulate a text-based conversation with the character.
The character being your dead loved one?
Yeah, another company, Seance AI, offers fictionalized seances for free.
I mean, this is, like I said, it's grim.
I mean, this is this is grim stuff.
Quite literally a Black Mirror episode.
I think this exact plotline was a Black Mirror episode.
And so we continue to use dystopian sci-fi as an instruction manual rather than a cautionary tale.
And this kind of thing, it's so deeply depressing on a level that's almost inexpressible.
The idea of being turned into a chatbot after you die.
that it's truly a fate worse than, it's worse than death, it's worse than hell.
I mean, it's better to burn in the fires of eternal torment than to be made into Siri.
Or at least it's like, they're one and the same.
It's like, that is hell.
That's, that's, you know.
I tell you this right now, if anyone does this to me after I die, I'm going to come back and haunt you.
I'm going to haunt the hell out of you if you do this to me.
It's full-on poltergeist.
If I find out, if I find out that I've been turned into a to a chatbot,
And this is probably the best example, the starkest example, the bleakest example of our deathphobic culture.
And we are culture terrified of death.
And I know you might say that every culture has been afraid of death.
Every person is afraid of death to some extent.
And that's true.
So maybe death phobic is not exactly the right term.
We aren't afraid of death as much as we are in death.
denial about it. The denial of death is a book I mentioned in the show before, is written in the
70s by a guy named Ernest Becker, who ironically died shortly after it was published. He won't
Pulitzer, I think, for the book, but was not alive to receive it because he had died. But
this was his theory that modern society is in denial about the reality of death. It refuses to
even really acknowledge the reality of death.
Because death is finality.
Death is the end of something.
Death is a conclusion.
Death is something that we can't really control.
It has a power over us that we can't change, that we can't mitigate.
And we like to believe that we're in control of everything,
that we have total control over every aspect of our lives.
And that nothing.
can happen or should be allowed to happen if we don't want it and if we don't like it,
if we don't identify with it. So we want to be able to say to death, oh, I don't identify.
No, I don't identify as dead. I don't, I don't, that doesn't work.
You know, dying doesn't really work with what I want to do in my life. I don't really, I don't,
I just don't connect with that. Sorry, death. That's what we want to say, but of course, we can't.
And in modern society, we have just a lot of trouble with all that. So we find ways of
trying to fool ourselves about our own mortality.
It's just kind of this game that we play to avoid its reality.
That's what a lot of the cosmetic surgery industry is about.
That's what our obsession with youth is about.
That's why we act like our age is some kind of embarrassing personal detail,
which is endlessly absurd that,
You know, asking someone how old they are, is embarrassing, that if somebody is 52 years old or
whatever it is, that they should be embarrassed by that.
One of the many things that we take for granted, we probably think that, oh, you know,
it's just, it's normal.
People, it's embay.
You don't ask people that question.
Well, it's not normal.
I mean, in most societies, it was the opposite, actually.
If anything, it was embarrassing to be too young.
Being old was a sign of the people are proud of that.
You know, the village elder.
The village elder is 75 years old. He's quite proud to be 70. Tell everybody that.
Because what does that mean? It means he's been around for a long time. You have wisdom. There's wisdom that comes with it. And that was revered. And now we have the exact opposite. I mean, it really is. It's just it's the world we've all lived in, the world we all grew up in. So it's impossible to not take it to take it for granted to some extent. But we should try to understand, at least on an intellectual level.
how ridiculous it is.
To live in a society
where older people pretend to be younger,
they try to make themselves look younger,
they don't want to talk about their age,
they want to be seen as younger.
Like if you say to a 55-year-old woman,
oh, I thought you were 35.
You should take that as a compliment.
Oh, thank you.
That's an insult.
To be thought of as significantly younger than you are,
you should be insulted by that.
that's another way of saying you are not mature.
You know, I expect older people to have a certain gravitas and wisdom about them,
and you don't have that.
And so that's what I'm telling you.
And you take it as a compliment.
So, but that's all, it's all part of the same thing that we are,
what is all of that about?
Like, why is it embarrassing to be older?
It doesn't make any sense.
The only reason why it could be considered embarrassing is because we understand.
understand that being older is, you know, with age comes greater proximity to death.
And that is the fact that we are embarrassed by and afraid of and don't want to acknowledge.
And this is so far the bleakest manifestation of this, that we can try to say, well, I'm not, I'm not really dying at all.
because I'm going to be, I'm going to live forever in my loved one's phone.
I'm going to be an app.
I'm going to live forever as an app on my loved one's iPhone.
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Today for our daily cancellation, we turn to something called Rainbow History Class.
Apparently, Rainbow History Class is a website dedicated to teaching people about LGBT history
and other subjects related to LGBT.
They have what they call teachers who post social media videos
about various LGBT topics.
Just to give you an idea of what and who we're dealing with,
here are just a few of the teachers they have listed on their website.
There's Rudy, they, them, a rainbow history teacher and creative.
Also, Blossom, they, them, listed as a linguist and Spanish teacher.
Pomara Fifth, he, her, they, a drag performer.
John Carlo de Vera, they he, CEO of gay and lesbian multicultural council.
This is my favorite.
Ellie, she her, whose official title,
as listed on the site is lesbian fashion historian.
So if you've ever sat around wondering, you know,
what lesbians were wearing in the 1700s or in the Middle Ages or in ancient Rome,
then Ellie can tell you all about it.
Personally, I have often said, and anyone will tell you this because I talk about all the time,
I've often said that if I had access to a time machine,
I would go to Egypt in the time of the pharaohs and inquire about lesbian fashion trends.
I would show up and say, hey, what do lesbians wear around here?
And then once they tell me, I'll say, oh, great, thanks.
And I'll get back in my time machine and return to the current day.
But now no time machine is necessary because we have Rainbow History Class for that.
Over on their TikTok page, which has depressingly over half a million followers,
they just posted a video not entirely unrelated to time travel.
One of their teachers is instructing the class on the subject of queer temporality
and the LGBT, quote, experience of time.
Take a listen.
Did you know that queer and trans people actually experience time
completely differently to cis-hut people?
It's a concept called queer temporality.
And it basically has to do with the fact that historically,
as queer and trans people, our lives have started much later
and for a whole bunch of reasons ended earlier than our cis-hete counterparts.
So as a result, our experience of time is,
compressed. It also has to do with the fact that those milestones that we've been socialized to use
to mark the passage of time, so things like marriage or having a children or, you know, working,
retiring, inheritance, things like that haven't been accessible to us. And that linear timeline
has a name. Heterocrinology. And as queer and trans people, our experience of time often sits
outside that. Basically, it's super interesting, and I'm going to be unpacking it more this
week on the podcast. So listen in wherever you like to do that.
And she's Australian, of course. Of course she's Australian, I think, or something like that.
From New Zealand, maybe. One of those. Anyway, let's unpack it. Yes. There's so much
nonsense here to unpack that we cannot focus on each individual morsel of nonsense. For instance,
we'll have to just skip over the claim that LGBT people haven't been able to act.
access things like jobs, retirement, and inheritance?
What?
This woman lives not just in a different timeline, but on a different planet entirely,
one where LGBT people are banned from having jobs or inheriting wealth.
Of course, with a major like lesbian fashion history, it is likely that most jobs are inaccessible,
but that's a rather self-inflicted challenge.
Anyway, she tells us that linear time is not a common experience for all mortal creatures
in the known universe.
In fact, linear time is something that only heterosexuals experience.
That is heterochronology, she tells us.
And as a heterosexual man myself, you know, I experience one moment and then the next,
and then the next, and so on and so on until I die.
And I may assume that every other person also travels through life one second at a time
on a linear path from present to future, but that's just my cis-hete privilege talking.
LGBT people, she says, experience queer temporality.
their experience of time is compressed
largely because their lives start later.
How is it possible for a life to start later?
What does that even mean?
Like later than what?
When someone's life starts and you say,
well, this life should have started earlier.
What?
What do you mean it should have started earlier?
It doesn't mean anything, of course.
It's totally incoherent nonsense.
But it's not nonsense that this woman invented.
Rather, it was invented by academia,
like so much other nonsense,
sometime in the last several years.
The Oxford Student Newspaper has an article from 2021 titled,
The Comfort of Queer Time Theory.
The author explains, quote,
The basic idea is that queer lives do not progress in the same way as non-queer lives.
Experience of queer people like coming out or transitioning for trans people.
Warp time, which prevents life developing in a linear way.
For me, as a bisexual, I feel like I experience two strands of time,
My progression with dating people that don't identify as men has been far behind than my progression with dating men, which has evolved in a fairly normal way.
Queer time has reassured me of my identity.
Sexuality is about attraction, not action, and it is perfectly okay to have different levels of experience with different genders.
My life and the lives of other queer people may not develop the way that they do for non-queer people.
We might reach significant life events later or never at all.
We might be inexperienced for our age, but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with them.
Yes, you see that when a queer person comes out of the closet, that earth-shattering announcement is so cosmically significant that it literally warps time.
They then find themselves experiencing multiple strands of time all at once.
Queer people are superhuman.
They're like gods living outside of time itself.
They are timeless, ageless, omnipresent, omniscient beings.
And the only thing more impressive than their mystical ability to transcend.
the linear progression of time is, of course, their humility.
Now, I don't need to explain why this is all a bunch of gibberish.
There's hopefully no need to debunk the claim that LGBT people experience nonlinear time.
I assume that everyone listening to the segment already understands that we are all subject to the progression of time
no matter what our sexual preferences are.
All of our lives, you know, take different courses, we follow different trajectories.
We have different milestones, different landmarks along the way.
but time moves at the same speed for all of us.
Now, that doesn't mean that time is the same everywhere in the universe.
There are places you can go, theoretically, where time really is warped.
The edge of a black hole, for instance.
And I will say that if anybody in the Rainbow History class wanted to make the trek to the nearest black hole about 1,500 light years away,
to really experience time dilation, I think that's a great idea.
I'd be very supportive of that project.
I would even donate to a GoFundMe to get it off the ground.
But as long as they're on earth, time is the same for them as it is for any of us.
So if we can just all agree on that point, where does queer time theory really come from?
How could anyone become convinced that they literally exist outside of linear time?
Well, the answer is the same as always.
This is just narcissism.
This is extreme overwhelming delusional narcissism.
That is how we end up with people who believe that they can transcend the laws of biology and then even time itself.
They may try to dress it up in scholarly lingo or what is supposed to sound like scholarly lingo.
But if you peel back the layers, all you find is a giant, insecure, self-obsessed ego trying to convince you,
itself of its own superiority. Now, if it were possible for an ego to become so vast and so
inwardly focused that it really did turn into a black hole that warped space and time,
well, then maybe queer time theory might actually have some validity. But that's not actually
how it works. And that is why the Rainbow School and its queer time theory are today canceled.
That'll do it for the show day. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Talk to you tomorrow.
If great day, Godspeed.
