The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1407 - Secret Service Director Resigns But The Cover-Up Continues

Episode Date: July 23, 2024

Today on the Matt Walsh Show, the director of the Secret Service has finally resigned, a week after her incompetence (or worse) nearly got Donald Trump killed. But the manner and timing of her resigna...tion only make the cover-up even more obvious. I'll explain. Also, Joe Biden has been completely out of the public eye for a week. He ghosted the nation and dropped out of the race on Twitter. He was finally seen for the first time, briefly, today. What's going on? And it only took a day for Kamala Harris to essentially lock up the nomination. Whatever happened to her going out and "earning and winning" nomination? And a new documentary claims that Abraham Lincoln was gay. Is there any evidence to support that wild assertion?   Ep.1407   - - -   DailyWire+:   LAST CHANCE! Get 47% off annual memberships now with code FIGHT: http://dailywire.com/subscribe   Get 10% off your tickets to “Sound of Hope: The Story of Possum Trot” at http://angel.com/MATT   Shop my merch collection here: https://bit.ly/3EbNwyj   - - -    Today’s Sponsors:   Balance of Nature - Get 35% off Your Order + FREE Fiber & Spice Supplements. Use promo code WALSH at checkout: https://www.balanceofnature.com/   Hillsdale College - Enroll for FREE today at https://www.hillsdale.edu/walsh   Tax Network USA - Seize control of your financial future! Call 1(800)958-1000 or visit http://www.TNUSA.com/Walsh   - - -   Socials:    Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3Rv1VeF   Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3KZC3oA   Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3eBKjiA   Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RQp4rs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today, the Matt Wall Show, the director of the Secret Service has finally resigned a week after her incompetence or worse, nearly got Donald Trump killed. But the manner and timing of her resignation only makes the cover up even more obvious. I'll explain. Also, Joe Biden has been completely out of the public eye for a week. He goes to the nation and dropped out of the race on Twitter. Finally seen for the first time briefly today, what exactly is going on? We'll talk about that. It only took a day for Kamala Harris to essentially lock up the nomination. Whatever happened to her going out and earning and winning the nomination?
Starting point is 00:00:27 and a new documentary claims that Abraham Lincoln was gay. Is there any evidence to support that wild assertion? We'll talk about that and more today on the Matt Wall Show. Biden has finally called it quits, but the left's assault on America is far from over. The election is pivotal and you need the truth now more than ever. That's where we come in. DailyWire gives you the uncensored truth every day. We can't do it without you.
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Starting point is 00:02:30 the director. It was just announced this morning that she is resigning from her position, finally. It took a while, despite the fact that both parties and Cheatel herself readily admit that the best case scenario here is that the Secret Service displayed stratospheric levels of incompetence in aptitude so profound that it very nearly changed the course of world history. And yet, Cheeto remained in office even after that. In fact, Cheeto's boss at DHS said that he has 100% confidence in her. And on top of that, Cheeto hasn't fired or even disciplined a single employee of the Secret Service. At a minimum, we are witnessing a staggering level of bureaucratic dysfunction.
Starting point is 00:03:07 And after Cheel's testimony yesterday at the House Oversight Committee, there's reason to think that we're seeing something even more sinister than that. She, you know, Cheetle should have resigned the day after Trump was nearly killed. the way that she resigned a week later and the timing really only lends more credence to the idea that there's a cover-up going on. I mean, it's now happening really in plain as day in plain sight, and I'll explain why. Let's begin with what happened on Capitol Hill yesterday. Throughout several hours of testimony, Cheetah acted more like a criminal with something to hide than the head of a government agency who was a legal duty to comply with a congressional subpoena. Cheetah Sheetle refused to answer even basic questions about the attempt on Donald Trump's life in Butler, Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:03:49 These are questions that any competent investigator would have been able to answer within 24 hours of the shooting. These are questions that in some cases, Cheetah said she knew the answer to, but she still refused to provide an answer to the committee. Again and again, Cheetahle Stonewold. It was almost as if she wanted to avoid providing any information that could possibly be contradicted later if the official narrative should happen to change. sort of outright admitting that the assassination attempt was an inside job, Kimberly Cheedle could not possibly have done more to validate the so-called conspiracy theories surrounding what happened in Butler. If the DOJ cared even slightly about the appearance of fairness and impartial justice, they would immediately charge Kimberly Cheatel with evading her subpoena. I mean, Steve Bannon's in jail for supposedly failing to comply with the subpoena after all. And that's precisely what Kimberly Cheedle did yesterday. And we know that because she admitted it.
Starting point is 00:04:41 So listen to this exchange between Cheatel and Congresswoman Lisa McLean of Michigan. First McLean gets Cheatel to acknowledge that she's spoken to the FBI about their investigation into the assassination. And then the Congresswoman asked Cheatel whether the FBI has determined how many shell casings were found on the roof next to the shooter's dead body. I want you to watch this exchange. Here it is. Did they share with you how many shell casings were on the roof? They have shared with me. Did they share with you? How many shell casing were on the roof?
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yes. Okay, how many were there? I would refer to the FBI for the investigation. How many were there? And their information that they need to share in their investigation. So they've shared the information with you. You just don't want to share the information with us, correct? We have concurrent investigations that are going on.
Starting point is 00:05:36 So they have shared this information with you. You know the answer to the question. You just refuse to answer the question from the member of Congress who has subpoenaed you to be here. Is there a different answer to that question? I was always willing to come here and testify before this oversight hearing. Beautiful. Then let's do that. Let's for once have your actions match your words.
Starting point is 00:06:03 So you've been in communication with the FBI. You know the answers and you refuse to tell us the answer. answers. So I will ask you again, you know how many shell casings were on that roof. What is the answer to that question? I think it's pertinent to talk to- What is the answer to that question? I think it's pertinent to talk to you about the information that the Secret Service has and that the Secret Service knows related to the event on that day. I'm asking you an answer to the question. If you're supposed to be in charge, if the buck stops with you, how come you can't share the answers? What are you covering up?
Starting point is 00:06:42 What are you hiding, my friend? So this is one of the most basic questions of the entire investigation. It should have been disclosed to the public in a press conference within a day of the shooting. How many shell casings were on the roof with the shooter? There's just no conceivable, legitimate reason why the government would want to hide this information. I mean, again, no legitimate reason why they would want to hide it. But here we are nine days later, and the head of the Secret Service won't tell us. and she admits that she knows the truth, but she's defying a grecial sabina and refusing to talk about it anyway.
Starting point is 00:07:15 And I think it's obvious that the number of shell casings on the roof is a critical piece of information because it would clearly give us insight into how many times the shooter fired from that particular rooftop. And that the number of shell casings doesn't match the number of shots that we can hear from footage of the rally, then there's a major problem with the official narrative. It could mean that the crime scene was tampered with, or it could mean that there was more than one shooter beyond the one who's already been identified. And if those possibilities sound outlandish,
Starting point is 00:07:47 we'll take a look at Sheetle's response to this question from Congressman Andy Biggs. He asked her point blank whether the shooter was acting alone. Watch. Your agency has a no-fail mission, and on Saturday, July 13th, your agency spectacularly failed. The failure resulted in the death of Corey Comptoror. and serious injury to two other rally attendees, David Dutch and J.Bas Copenhaver,
Starting point is 00:08:10 besides the injuries to President Trump. It is unfathomable that a 20-year-old on the radar of Secret Service and local law enforcement before President Trump went on stage was able to climb onto the roof of a building with a rifle and fire off multiple rounds before he was neutralized. Was Mr. Crook's acting alone? Again, I would have to refer you to the FBI's investigation. Was he just a lone gunman?
Starting point is 00:08:37 I would have to refer you to the FBI's investigation for motive. So again, this should not be a difficult question to answer. And she could say, yes, it seems he was acting alone. She could just say that. I mean, if he was alone, as far as they know, she could say, yeah, as far as we know, he was alone. Or she could say, we think he had help. Or she could say she's genuinely not sure at this point, which would be hard to believe. But she could say that.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Instead, she refuses to provide any kind of answer whatsoever. She says she has no information she can provide in that the congressman should talk to the FBI. And of course, the FBI won't answer the question either. This is the kind of bureaucratic runaround you'd expect to get when you try to cancel your phone plan. And it's how the federal government is handling the investigation into the most serious attempt on the life of the presidential candidate and former president in decades. Again, it's hard to conceive of any innocent reason why she would decline to answer these questions. if the answers line up with the official narrative.
Starting point is 00:09:41 It shouldn't take anywhere near this long to have some answers to these questions, even if those answers are tentative. Think about how quickly, just for comparison, say, think of how quickly the police charged Jennifer and James Crumbly with involuntary manslaughter. Those were the parents who allowed their son to access their handgun, which he then used to commit a school shooting. And they were charged with a crime in less than a week.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Why haven't police charged the parents of the Trump assassin would be assassin with a crime? Have the authorities been looking at anyone else to charge who might have helped them? Why don't we have any answers to these questions? Even if they think someone might have helped him, but they don't know who, they could say that. Right now, we're learning more from investigators on social media than we are from the Secret Service. Yesterday, for example, the Oversight Project, part of the Heritage Foundation, took a look at databases of mobile. advertising data, and they found that, quote, somebody who regularly visited the shooter's home and work also visited a building in Washington, D.C., located in gallery plays. This is in the same
Starting point is 00:10:49 vicinity of an FBI office on June 6, 2023. Who is that person who links the shooter's home to an area in Washington, D.C., near a mall, and an FBI field office? We have no idea. Could be nothing. Could be significant. But the more of the Secret Service stonewalls on basic questions, the more people are entitled to come up with their own theories and conduct their own investigation. That piece of reporting from the Heritage Foundation, whether it pans out or not, is more believable than anything Kimberly Cheedle said yesterday. She spent 95% of the time dodging every question she was asked. In fact, at several points, Cheeto simply lied under oath. She didn't just filibuster or give the typical bureaucratic runaround.
Starting point is 00:11:29 She actually lied. For example, listen to her answer when she was asked about the Secret Services' DEI hiring, policies. Watch. As the Krispy Chicken sandwich from 7-Eleven, people always call me loud. And I'm like, yeah, I know. I'm crispy. Did you expect me to whisper? If you want quiet, go eat some soup and reflect. Like, I know I'm a handful.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I'm bold, I'm juicy. Throw some pickles and barbecue sauce on me, and baby, I'm a whole meal. And with seven rewards, I'm just $4. Quiet. No. Krispy, saucy, and $4? Very. Only at 711.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Valley through 62326, participating stores only well supplies last out for full terms. One of your goals in the strategic plan is to champion diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility. You've accomplished the accessibility part. What standards, do you keep the same standards for all applicants and all, does every secret service agent meet the same qualifications or do you have different standards for different people?
Starting point is 00:12:32 Yes, sir. Everyone who moves through the application process has to meet the same standard. to become a special agent. So she says, everyone who moves through the application process has to meet the same standards to become a special agent. That's what the Secret Service director, former director, said under oath. And it is not remotely true. It's verifiably false.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Anybody with Google can verify that it's not true. Female trainees in the Secret Service have drastically lower fitness standards than male trainees. For example, the Secret Service considers it excellent if a 29-year-old male applicant can complete 55 or more push-ups. They'll get maximum points on their fitness test, which is critical for getting the job, but a 29-year-old female applicant receives the same excellent score if she could complete just 40 push-ups. Now, 40 and 55, I think, are not the same numbers. So this is not the same standard. The cutoff for a good score for a 29-year-old male is 46 push-ups, while a woman can achieve a good score with just 26 push-ups.
Starting point is 00:13:38 We could have another conversation with the fact that 46 push-ups for a man is considered good. I mean, that's enough of a problem, but the fact is that it's not the same standard. In other words, the Director of Secret Service lied under oath. There's just no way that she's not aware of her agency's hiring standards. To the extent Kimberly Cheedle has done anything during her tenure, she's been pushing DEI hiring. She stated publicly that she wants 30% of the agency to be female. And she understands that one way to achieve that result is to have lower standards for women. But when she's asked about this under oath, she just denies it outright. And because she knows that no one's going to come after her
Starting point is 00:14:17 for perjury, but that's exactly what she just did there. And I can go through the rest of Sheedel's testimony, which isn't any better than what I've already shown you. At one point, Sheedle admits that she still hasn't even visited the shooting in Butler, the site of the shooting. That's how little she cares. She also refused to explain why nobody was guarding the roof where the shoe door's position, saying only that there was some kind of overwatch on the roof, which clearly didn't work. She'd also admitted that somehow she doesn't have a timeline of events from that day. This was one of the moments during her testimony when people in the room burst out laughing at how absurd it was, which is never a good sign if you're testifying in front of Congress and people
Starting point is 00:14:55 start laughing at you. That's just never, it means things are not going well. Watch. Why was Crooks able to fly a drone over the entire area of the day of the rally and the day of his assassination attempt? To my knowledge, he did not fly the drone over the entire area. How did he fly a drone over the area, period, any part of the area? Again, I would have to go back and check the timeline of when that took place and when the event. Why didn't you bring the timeline with you today to answer our questions? I don't have all of the answers on the timelines based on the criminal investigation. Were you not prepared today to answer our questions?
Starting point is 00:15:35 I am prepared to answer the questions based on the information and wanted to be able to provide. Do you have a timeline that you, do you have a timeline at all from any of the day? I have a timeline that does not have specifics. That's shocking. That is absolutely unacceptable. That means you are a failure at your job. So I have a timeline that does not have specifics, which, I mean, isn't the whole point of a timeline to have specifics? Isn't that what a time, isn't that what does a timeline with no specifics look like?
Starting point is 00:16:13 It's like saying you have a math book without numbers. Like what is in it then in that case? So whatever is the case, she just showed up and winged it, basically, according to her. It's like watching an actor who was told to play the head of the Secret Service for a day. If you found some random woman off the street and told her to Stonewall Conquest, about the assassination attempt, how would the results be any different than this? Separately, Cheadle said that she didn't sign off on the security plan for the event because she doesn't sign off for the security plans at any events.
Starting point is 00:16:43 When asked for the name of the person who did sign off on the security plan for the butler rally, she wouldn't say. In fact, she implied that many people sign off on those plans, so no one single person can be blamed. It's just a classic bureaucratic cover-up. A lot of people were involved, and therefore no person can be blamed. for this. Cheatel also refused to talk about all the times that the Secret Service turned down the Trump campaign's request for additional security and on and on and on. But there's one more
Starting point is 00:17:11 clip that's very important to show. It's AOC going after Kimberly Cheatel. Online, a lot of people on the right are praising AOC for this performance, but along with Mike Cernovich, I think it reveals something a lot more troubling than it actually maybe first appears. Watch. So the notion of a report coming out in 60 days when the threat environment is so high in the United States, irrespective of party, is not acceptable. And I think it's very important to understand that. This is not theater. This is not about jockeying. This is about the safety of some of the most highly targeted and valued targets internationally and domestically in the United States of America. So the idea that a report will be finalized in 60 days, let alone prior to any actionable
Starting point is 00:18:02 decisions that would be made is simply not acceptable. It has been 10 days since an assassination attempt on a former president of the United States, regardless of party. Now, AOC was not the only Democrat to rip into Cheeto like this. Several Democrats did the same thing. And there's a couple possible interpretations for that. One is that the security failures were so bad that Democrats are putting aside politics for the first time in modern history. They're just as outraged as Trump supporters about it.
Starting point is 00:18:34 But the other interpretation is that whenever AOC agrees with the entire Republican caucus, we should take a step back and think about what's going on. Maybe Kimberly Cheedle was sent out there to testify in order to serve as a sacrificial lamb. Maybe the point of this hearing was for both Republicans and Democrats to beat her up like a pinata. And then when she inevitably resigns, which she has, members of both parties will feel like justice has been done. And more importantly, the public will think that justice has been done when the problem has been solved. A replaceable cog in the bureaucratic machine has been removed. And the implication would be no need to look higher. No need to investigate any other connections the shooter may have had with the government.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Problems taken care of, it's all good. And that seems to be exactly what happened here. So they knew they were going to force her to resign. Like that was already, that was already a done deal. But they had her testify to Congress first. I mean, she resigned hours after testifying to Congress. And how do you explain the timing there? And why did they just have her testify in front of Congress?
Starting point is 00:19:42 If they know that she's not going to be leading the agency anymore. And also, if supposedly she didn't even sign off on the plans, but somebody else did, then why is she the only one testifying? Well, the answer's pretty clear, because they wanted her to stonewall, absorb all the blame. That's why she was there. It was just to be yelled at, and then leave. And now they could put somebody else in charge of the agency who will not have to answer any of those questions. But that can't be the end of it. For a lack of a better word, these are very strange times. right now in this country? It's not even clear who's running the federal government at this moment.
Starting point is 00:20:26 We don't know who has the authority to fire Kimberly Cheatel. President of the United States is technically her boss, but he hasn't been seen in public for several days. He allegedly just phoned into a rally for Kamala Harris, but no one could see his face. And after weeks of insisting is not dropping out of the race, now he's suddenly issuing full-throated endorsements for his running mates. Meanwhile, the president's brother is suggesting Biden doesn't have long to live. The press is pretending this is all completely normal, but none of this is normal. We still don't understand what just happened to Joe Biden, and from Kimberly Cheedle's testimony, it looks like we may never know what happened in Butler either.
Starting point is 00:21:04 At the very least, the government won't tell us. It's hard to think of a stronger argument for completely dismantling the federal government bureaucracy if and when Donald Trump gets back into office. even assuming they're not actively trying to sabotage this country, which is quite an assumption at this point, then at the very least, these bureaucrats are so incompetent that they're destroying any faith that Americans have in the proper functioning of their government. Mediocre men and women like Kimberly Cheedle are leading pretty much every federal agency in this country. And just like Joe Biden, these bureaucrats cannot be reasoned with. They cannot be shamed.
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Starting point is 00:22:48 So at this point, as I speak, we still have not heard from Joe Biden. Well, we heard from him. We heard him, allegedly, when he called into his campaign headquarters, or Kamala's campaign headquarters now. We haven't seen him on camera, speaking to camera. He hasn't addressed the nation. And the fact that he called and was heard on camera but not seen just makes the whole thing more bizarre and gives more fuel to the fire of what the media describes as conspiracy
Starting point is 00:23:15 theories. but are really just logical attempts for people to make sense of this utterly strange situation. And it just makes it all the more strange, especially given that Harris during that conversation with allegedly Biden on the phone. We'll play this clip here, but it sounds like she almost refers to the call as a recording. Listen. It is so good to hear our president's voice. Joe, I know you're still on the call. and we've been talking every day.
Starting point is 00:23:47 You probably, you guys heard it from Doug's voice. We love Joe and Jill. We really do. They truly are like family to us. Sure you love them so much. You love him so much that you shived him in the back and tossed them out of the moving train. But it sounds like she says,
Starting point is 00:24:04 it sounds like she's about to say recording and then she says, just says call. So that doesn't really allay any concerns. and still doesn't explain why we haven't seen him. Now, the latest is that Joe Biden was just recently, just moments ago, seen on camera for the first time since Wednesday. He didn't address the cameras. He didn't talk, but he was seen boarding Air Force One, I believe. And supposedly he's going to address the nation tomorrow, a week since we last saw him.
Starting point is 00:24:42 because we last saw him after he'd been diagnosed with COVID. The last image of him till today was him slowly descending the stairs of Air Force One. And the last time that we heard and saw him was when he was strongly denying repeatedly that he would drop out of the race. And then he drops out of public eye, steps down from the race through a tweet. And that's it. Now, a lot of people have been claiming or conjecturing that Biden is in dire straits health-wise, that he's in the middle of some kind of serious medical crisis. There have been theories that he's dying or that he's even already dead.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Reports are circulating on social media, claiming to cite insider sources who say they're confirming that Biden is either in the middle of a medical crisis or had one very recently. So there's all kinds of things swirling out there. Now, I don't know what's true or what isn't. I have no information one way or another. I have no insider info. Nobody talks to me. Which, by the way, is one of the reasons why it's always funny to me when, I mean, this is a side note, but when I'm sometimes accused of being a media elitist or whatever, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:04 And when people say that about me, I'm always. always like, are you, I have no contact with anyone in power. I have no friends in high places at all. I spend all of my free time at home with my kids. I don't talk to anyone at all. So anytime there's something like this going on and you get all these people in media on both sides that are citing their sources and they're talking to people inside supposedly. I'm not, I don't know. No one is reaching out to me to tell me anything ever. So the point is, I don't know what's going on, but I am highly skeptical of the theory that Biden is on death's door or that he's having any kind of real serious health crisis. And I'll tell you why. Actually, it's very simple.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And I have a theory about why we haven't seen him in a week or haven't heard from him, haven't seen and heard him in a week. But it's different. But the reason why I don't think that there's something medical going on, is that if Biden is really in the middle of a medical crisis, it would benefit the Democrats greatly to tell us that. They don't gain anything by covering this up. That's the big problem with the cover-up theories about Biden having a medical problem. It's like, why would they cover that up? I mean, what would they gain from that? In fact, if Biden were to have a heart attack, I mean, you know, just to, not that we want that to happen, but let's say Biden were to have a heart attack and drop dead today. That's, I mean, from a purely political perspective, that bails the Democrats out in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 00:27:45 So there'd be no reason for them to do anything but tell us immediately. So, you know, if he's having a medical crisis, it gives the Democrats a legitimate reason to push him to the side. It legitimizes the coup. It mitigates any claim that they're subverting the will of the voters. Because if they can say, look, he's medically incapacitated, we have to move on to somebody else. Then who could, yeah, I mean, who could have an issue with that? It engender sympathy for Biden in a way that would take some of the wind out of Trump's sales, and with his recent harrowing crisis that he was in. And most importantly, it allows them to install Kamala Harris as the president for a few months,
Starting point is 00:28:37 which would help her significantly and maybe decisively. Because if Harris becomes president, first of all, it automatically makes her an historic figure, quote unquote, historic figure as the first female president. By default, it does that. it allows the media to spin up a narrative about the heroic woman who stepped up when her male boss was down for the count. You know, it's a great story for them. They would love that story. And it really reinforces the guilt trip that the media will put on the voters anyway.
Starting point is 00:29:12 But now there's going to be a guilt trip regardless. If you were to dare to not vote for Kamala Harris, they're going to call you racist and sexist. But if she's already president, you know, and very president. you know, and then you don't vote for it? Well, that's even more of a guilt trip because then they're going to say, hey, are you really going to fire the first female president after only five months on the job? Are you really going to do that? I mean, shouldn't you give the first female president at least one term before you kick her to the curb?
Starting point is 00:29:41 Really? You're not going to give her to all the male presidents. They got a whole term to figure it out. But this first female president, you're going to kick her out in five months, really? Now, maybe to you and I, that would not be a very persuasive argument, but it would be powerful, emotional blackmail for a lot of people. It just would be. And so the whole thing, if there's a medical crisis, it would be a major, major benefit for the Dems. And that's why I just don't buy into the theory that they're covering up a medical crisis
Starting point is 00:30:14 because they have no incentive to do that. They benefit from letting us know about it, not from covering it up. So here's what I think is really happening. Here's my theory. I think what is happening is this. Biden is in relatively fine physical shape. He's not incapacitated physically. Now, mentally, he's not a good shape, but physically he's fine. He's basically healthy. They pushed him out of the race against his will. It was a coup. And now they're not allowed. allowing him to address the public because they don't trust him to stay on script. That's it. Okay. Here's the bind that they're in. If Biden goes in front of news cameras and gives even the slightest hints that he was coerced into doing this, if he shows the faintest glimmer
Starting point is 00:31:08 of bitterness, everything falls apart for the Dems because now they have been exposed as liars and manipulators and they've chased a sitting president out of his reelection. campaign, Harris suddenly goes from the girl boss hero to the conniving who schemed against the man who gave her a chance and elevated her. It would be a disaster. I mean, it would just be a total. It's the end. It's just everything falls apart at that point. And that's why Biden hasn't been seen. It's why he wasn't on camera. It could have been on camera on Sunday when he stepped down. He could have done that. That's what should have happened. obviously, he should have addressed the nation, explained what was going on, explain why he wasn't running for re-election.
Starting point is 00:31:55 He could have done that. He could have physically done it. But they wouldn't let him. Because especially on Sunday, after they just completed this coup, this takeover, they were not going to take the guy who they just kicked out and put him on live television, especially a guy who's already known for wandering off script and who can't be trusted in general to stay on script. But you're going to take him when he's angry and bitter and resentful and he hates everybody, he feels betrayed, and you're going to put him on camera, they're not going to do that. So I think what happened is that they basically quarantined him,
Starting point is 00:32:37 not because of COVID, but because of this, kept them away from everybody and trying to give them some time to calm them down. And in the meantime, they're working out their bribe. This has been the discussion behind the scenes, I guarantee you, for the last several days. And it hasn't even really been with Joe.
Starting point is 00:32:59 It's been with Jill and Hunter, mainly. Because what they're saying is, okay, what are you guys going to give us? Because you need us to keep our mouths shut. You need us to play ball on this thing. And if we don't publicly, then we could take this whole thing down. Okay, if we want to go kamikaze on this, we can. And so they're figuring out their bribes for Jill and Hunter,
Starting point is 00:33:23 and they're going to throw whatever the bone they have to, to Joe. And they're going to cross their fingers and put them on camera tomorrow because they know they have to eventually. But that's what's been happening. I mean, if you want a more interesting conspiracy theory, if any, like not only was. he not deathly ill with COVID? But if you want a more interest in conspiracy theory, if anything, you might theorize that he never had COVID, but was told that he did. I mean, there's,
Starting point is 00:33:54 I have no evidence for that, but I mean, that to me, it's more credible to believe, rather than to believe that he was deathly ill with COVID or with anything else, it's more credible that he never even had COVID and his doctors told him that he did so that they could shuffle him off to Rahobith, put him in quarantine. give him a reason why, oh, no, you can't go out in front of cameras. You know, you can't do that. And then while he's off in quarantine, they dropped the news that he's going to step down because that's the other thing is that this was a decision that was made for him really abruptly.
Starting point is 00:34:29 You know, the reason why, right before going into quarantine, the reason he was out saying that he's going to keep running. And the reason why there was this abrupt change is because, you know, on Wednesday of last week, he thought he was still running. And they brought the hammer down over the weekend, and they had them, you know, they had them stashed somewhere while they did it. So this will be a very interesting address to the nation tomorrow. It's going to have to be live. I mean, I don't think they can't get away with a pre-recorded address at this point. So they're going to have to put them on camera. And probably he'll just go with the program. But that is what they're worried about. All right, staying on politics here, a majority of pledged Democratic convention delegates have
Starting point is 00:35:19 endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris, who said Monday in her first campaign remarks as a presidential candidate that she knows how to take on Republican Donald Trump. Harris has been quickly consolidating support around her day-old bid for the Democratic nomination for president, with seemingly all of her major potential rivals rallying around her less than 24 hours after Joe Biden announced he was bowing out. Okay, so Harris has locked up a majority of the delegates. it's she has all the donors, she has all the endorsements, all of her potential challengers have kissed the ring. So she's the nominee. Barring some unforeseen event, which you certainly
Starting point is 00:35:53 can't bar, as we have learned, but barring that, she's the nominee. You may remember all the way back to yesterday when Harris was claiming that she would do everything she could to earn the nomination. Well, turns out that process took about 12 hours. You know, when she said that she'd fight for the nomination. She meant that she would wait 12 hours and then announce herself the presumptive nominee, which is what happened. And now after a long campaign of half a day, she has it all sewed up. The whole thing's a farce, of course. It was a coronation from the very beginning. Nobody of any note on the Democrat side had the balls to say anything about it or challenge it or in any way. No one was going to throw their hat in the ring. Wasn't going to
Starting point is 00:36:37 happen. But I suppose the good news now is that Republicans know that it's going to be Harris. They can play the game. They can game plan now accordingly. And I think it's going to take a smart game plan to beat her. Like I said, the overconfidence on the right right now is very concerning. Because we can make all the jokes about Harris that we want. And I've made plenty of them. I'll continue to make them because it's fun to mock her. She deserves it. But it is going to be a challenge. And if you think that Trump is just going to stroll easily into the White House now, then I think you're delusional. It's going to be a fight no matter what. And it could be a very difficult fight if the Democrats are smart enough to play this right. Because they have a chance
Starting point is 00:37:23 to rebrand Harris as she moves into the spotlight. This is, and there's been moments like this now on both sides, where you have this historic thing that happens. And if you play it right, you can use it as a reset button. And Kamala Harris, more than anyone in politics, needs a reset button. So this is a time to set the narrative for both Republicans and Democrats. There's a, it's, the whole race has changed. And so there's going to be a new narrative. and one side of the other is going to decide what the narrative is. That's the way it goes. And whoever sets it successfully will probably win.
Starting point is 00:38:10 There are some concerning indications that the Democrats are concocting what might be an effective strategy. So I'll play this one moment from Harris's address to our campaign staff yesterday. Here's a line, and you're going to hear this line 70,000 times. so, you know, get used to it. But between now and November, you're going to hear it over and over and over again, especially because we know, one thing we know about Kamala Harris is that when she stumbles on a line that she likes, she will, even if nobody else likes it, but if she likes it, we're going to hear it every time she speaks. And this is going to be one of those.
Starting point is 00:38:50 But it's also potentially an effective line, and I'll explain why, but here it is, watch. So in the days and weeks ahead, I together with you will do everything in my power to unite our Democratic Party, to unite our nation, and to win this election. You know, as many of you know, before I was elected as vice president, before I was elected as United States Senator, I was the elected attorney general, as I've mentioned in California. And before that, I was a courtroom prosecutor. In those roles, I took on perpetrators of all kinds. Creditors who abused women. Fraudsters who ripped off consumers. Cheaters who broke the rules for their own gain.
Starting point is 00:39:49 So hear me when I say, I know Donald Trump's type. Okay. I know Donald Trump's type. You're going to hear that, as I said a million times. She's going to say it in the debate. Call it right now. That line is going to be said at the debate. And conservatives are scoffing at this line, but scoffing's not going to be enough. And I think conservatives are scoffing at it because they're saying, oh, yeah, like, this is what you guys have been trying to do.
Starting point is 00:40:23 You've been trying to paint Trump as a criminal, and it hasn't landed. Not only has it not landed, but it has backfired fantastically against you. And so I think that's why many on the right are seeing that. It's like, okay, yeah, go run with that. Yes, it's absurd to compare Trump to any of those types of criminals. It's absurd to claim that Trump is a criminal at all. He was convicted, yes, but in a political show trial, he's not really a criminal. He didn't actually break the law.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And that's the truth, but of course, the truth doesn't matter in politics. All that matters is what people believe the truth to be. and but but I think that this kind of angle presents a challenge and I'll explain what it is and it's it's not even really about bringing up the fact that Trump's been convicted you know convicted of a quote-unquote crime that's not even like when I hear that there's a part of me that says uh-oh and it's not because she's bringing up the Trump stuff that's got nothing to do with it here's here's what it is there are two versions of Kamala Harris. The first version is the courtroom prosecutor who was attacked
Starting point is 00:41:40 for being too zealous in prosecuting supposed nonviolent drug offenses. You know, the, the toughest nails prosecutor who's going after the bad guys. Again, is that the reality? Is that really who she was? No, but that's the version. Like that's the, that's one brand that they could try to go with. The second version, the second brand is the bleeding heart liberal who bailed out BLM protesters, rioters, rather, rioters. But now, the best case is that she runs as the second version, running as the defender of rioters and criminals and looters. That's best case. That's what we want. Go ahead and run that campaign. But if she runs as the first, and that line you just heard is the first version talking, then it's a challenge.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Because then what will happen is that Democrats, rather than in the midst of this crime-infested society we live in and people are fed up, just sick to death, of living in communities that are unsafe and they can't bring their kids out in public and all that kind of stuff, rather than Democrats doing what they've done for so long, which is to tell us that we should like that or deny that it's happening or tell us that we should feel more sorry for the criminals, rather than doing that, what you just heard there,
Starting point is 00:43:14 it's just one little snippet, but that would represent the Democrats trying to go the other way and trying to outflank the Republicans on crime, to the right? So if Harris pretends to be the toughest knell's prosecutor who fought for justice and locked bad guys, that would be her running to the right on crime, which is where the American public is because people are sick of the crime epidemic. They are, as I said, they're tired of living in communities that are unsafe. Now, if Harris did try to move right on crime or right,
Starting point is 00:43:52 I don't know, I'm all, I don't even know where my right and left anymore. If she did try to move to the right on crime, it shouldn't be a major problem because it can be countered really easily, right? So what I say it's kind of a, if they're thinking this and you think, uh-oh, you know, this might be a problem, it's not because there's anything about that move that's really difficult to counter. You should be able to counter it easily. Because first of all, point out the fact that she took the side of violent rioters, you could point that out, bailed them out, funded them. You could also argue that her version of law and order is to is lawfare against her political opponents, which is true.
Starting point is 00:44:32 So basically your response to that when she tries to present herself as this prosecutorial gladiator, you know, taken on the bad guys, your response is that's not true. You're full of it. And, you know, the people that you were really taken on were your political opponents, who you tried to lock in jail for your own political gain. So that could be the response. But here's my fear. My fear, and I hope that I'm wrong about this, my fear is that Republicans will respond to this challenge of Harris going to the right on crime by going to the left. That's my fear.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Republicans will see Kamala Harris suddenly doing the law and order thing, and they will respond by thinking, oh, well, that gives us an opportunity to outflank you on the left. and that would be a fatal error. I mean, it would be one of the worst unforced errors that I've ever seen in politics. And I hope it doesn't happen. But I've seen rumblings of it. Like, I've seen that, you know, there are people, and nobody really of note that I've seen yet,
Starting point is 00:45:51 although maybe they have and I haven't seen it. But I've seen conservative accounts on Twitter, for example, tweeting that, oh, well, Kamala Harris, she, what about all those nonviolent young black men that you locked in prison? Like that kind of thing? This is my great fear, is that the Republicans decide that that is the good response. That, okay, so you're not going to be the bleeding heart liberal on crime, then we will. And now we're going to be the one saying that that actually the justice system is rigged against black people. It is racist. And now we're the ones standing up for you. Again, I hope I'm wrong. I hope that's not the move. It would be disastrous. Absolutely disastrous.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Because the Democrats, no matter what they try to do, they are very vulnerable on the crime issue. It is an easy issue for Republicans. It is an easy win. And they can do whatever they want. They can go left. They can go left. go right. What they can't escape is their own history, their own very recent history, what they have said and more importantly done. They can't escape that unless you let them escape it. So let's please not do that. And the last thing I'll say about this is Tulsi Gabbard had a moment in the Republican, in the rather Democrat primaries where she hit Kamala Harris on this, on the, on the, locking up nonviolent drug offenders and that sort of thing. And that's another one.
Starting point is 00:47:34 I've seen that. I've seen Republicans sharing that clip and saying, oh, remember when Harris got totally owned by Tulsi Gabbard on this issue? Yeah, that worked as an attack by Tulsi Gabbard against Kamala Harris. It worked at the time. Okay? That was before a summer of race riots. and more importantly, it was in a Democrat primary.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Okay, so if you are taking, if you're taking a tax that worked in a Democrat primary and trying them as a Republican in a general election, then you don't know the first thing about politics. So might have worked then in that context for that person to be attacking that other person in that specific context, it will not work here. And you shouldn't even try and you shouldn't need to. Are you still struggling with back taxes or unfiled returns? The IRS is escalating collections by adding 20,000 new agents and sending millions of demand letters.
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Starting point is 00:50:59 involved in this. Page 6 reports, quote, was Abraham Lincoln the original log cabin Republican? We hear tell that a new documentary of Honest Abe posits that the 16th president was gay. Promo copy for the new project, Lover of Men, the untold history of Abraham Lincoln reads, quote, as told by preeminent Lincoln scholars and never before seen photographs and letters, the film details Lincoln's romantic relationships with men. The movie delves into the history of human sexual fluidity and focuses on the profound differences between sexual moors of the 19th century and those we hold today. The film, film, Films. fills in an important missing piece of American history
Starting point is 00:51:32 and challenges the audience to consider why we hold such a limited view of human sexuality. Directed by Sean Peterson, the film explores Lincoln's deep ties with daring, dashing guys, and includes interviews with historians from Harvard, Columbia, Brown, Wesley, and Rutgers. One expert sums it up. Lincoln probably slept in the same bed with more men
Starting point is 00:51:54 than he did with women. Okay, so we're back to the favorite pastime of modern historians. is going back in time and recruiting dead people into the LGBT ranks. It's like the practice of posthumous baptism, except in this case the baptism is meant to make the dead person gay rather than Mormon. It was inevitable that this obsession with making everyone living in dead gay would eventually include U.S. presidents. Of course, we might ask,
Starting point is 00:52:19 if you want to argue that a president was a closeted homosexual, why would you start with Lincoln when Barack Obama is sitting right there? I guess I'll have to wait another 150 years before they get around to that one. For now, they're focused on old honest Abe, who they say was not so honest about his sexual orientation. Here's a clip of the trailer. Watch. He is considered a sacred figure by both Republicans and Democrats. He led the nation through its greatest crisis.
Starting point is 00:52:50 He's on our currency. We build monuments to him. He's the greatest president of the United States has ever had. Today, the big question that people are asking is, Was Abraham Lincoln gay? In the 19th century, for many men, their closest relationships were other men, and same for women.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Men would live with another man when they're single and often did and shared beds. Lincoln probably slept in the same bed with men more than he did with women. One of the things that fascinate scholars is his bedding down with Joshua Speed for four years. There is love between those two men. When you put together all of the evidence,
Starting point is 00:53:29 It's really startling. Lincoln has a type, dashing, daring. We have this notion that if you have an attraction like that, boom. Just to get this out of the way, there is, of course, no evidence that Abraham Lincoln was gay. He could have been. We can't say for sure that he wasn't. He's been dead for a century and a half. It's very hard to prove a negative about a historical figure or even a currently living figure.
Starting point is 00:53:55 So we cannot prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he wasn't gay. just as we can't prove that he wasn't, as some historians have argued, a vampire slayer. I mean, he could have been that. But it's not up to us to prove that he wasn't something. It's up to those claiming that he was something to prove that he was that thing. They must produce the evidence, and yet they have no evidence. Now, interestingly enough, an article in the Daily Beast, of all places, the Daily Beast, debunks this Lincoln was gay narrative. This is from a few years ago because modern historians have been trying to wrap a
Starting point is 00:54:29 rainbow flag around Lincoln for a while now. The Daily Beast interviewed the historian whose study of Lincoln in 1982 inadvertently started the rumors that Lincoln was gay. But the guy behind that that study, Charles Strosier, says that his work is being misinterpreted, reading now, quote, according to Charles Strosier, the psychoanalyst, history professor, and author, Lincoln was straight. But Lincoln was by no means a hyper-straight lady killer, as some scholars suggest in reaction to the fact that Lincoln shared a bed with his best friend Joshua Speed for nearly four years. Whoever said that Lincoln was a lady killer? Have we ever heard a ladies man?
Starting point is 00:55:04 I mean, we could see the guy. That probably wasn't that. Anyway, Strozier's 1982 study of Honest Abe, Lincoln's quest for union contained a chapter on the Lincoln's speed friendship that started not in the whispers, but the shouts that Lincoln was gay. The loudest voice belonged to Larry Kramer, author, AIDS activist, and founder of Act Up, in his massive novel, The American People, Volume 1, Kramer channels his version of Speed's voice, recalling Speeds' Knights with Lincoln this way. And then we then get a quote from Kramer's novel,
Starting point is 00:55:35 which is graphic and gross. This guy apparently wrote pornographic fan fiction imagining Lincoln as a gay man. We don't need to read the totally imagined details. But the Daily Beast article continues, quote, this was a time, Strosier writes, when young men could be, indeed, were assumed to be, close, bonded, and intimate, even sleeping together without being sexual partners. Still, it was Speed's therapeutic and redemptive friendship that got Lincoln through one of the life-threatening depressions that plagued his early adulthood. Joshua Speed was an intelligent sensitive and business-savvy son of a wealthy Kentucky slave-owning family. In 1837, Speed, was running a dry goods store in Springfield when Lincoln, then 28 years old
Starting point is 00:56:13 and a member of the State Assembly walked into Speed shop. Lincoln had come to town to set up law office, but he was heavily in debt, needed a place to flop. Speeds offer to Lincoln was, no pun intended, straightforward. Quote, I have a very large room and a very large double bed in it, which you are perfectly welcome to share with me if you choose. Needless to say, Speed's proposition meant something different in 1837 than it would today. So this is what the whole case is based on, the fact that Lincoln shared a bed with a man who was also his close friend.
Starting point is 00:56:44 But Estrozier goes on to explain, and as any real historian familiar with the customs of the time, I'll tell you, there was nothing strange or sexual about any of this back in those days. Men slept in beds together, family members slept in beds together. In fact, even today, we in wealthy Western society are rather unique. And I would say pretty fortunate that we all get our own beds. Okay. That was not always the case. It's not the case even today in many parts of the world.
Starting point is 00:57:10 In fact, back in the 19th century, even stopping for the night at an inn might mean sharing a bed with another member of the same sex. And that would seem very strange today, but it wasn't at the time. Like, I admit that I would be quite upset if I checked into my room at the Hilton and found some dude already occupying my bed, but this is not the 1800s. Expectations are very different. But the case for Lincoln's gayness isn't just that he shared beds with other men, which was incredibly common back in those days. The other piece of evidence is that Lincoln was very close friends with other men,
Starting point is 00:57:43 in particular, this guy, Joshua Speed, as we heard mentioned. But Lincoln's friendship with men is evidence of nothing but the fact that Lincoln had friends. To interpret his close male relationships in a sexual light is, among other things, anachronistic. You are once again foisting modern attitudes onto people who lived generations ago. It was not unusual at the time for men to have close, intimate, non-sexual relationships with each other. It was not unusual for a man to, as Lincoln did, write a letter to another man expressing his platonic affection. for him. Now, again, it is different now. I confess that if a buddy of mine wrote me a lengthy email pouring out his heart and telling me that he loves me and stuff, I would find it quite weird and
Starting point is 00:58:30 unsettling. Like, dude, take it easy. I mean, if a friend came over for a beer and sat down next to me on the couch and said, hey, man, I just want you to know that I love you and your relationship is really important to me, I would find it extremely awkward. I would not have an eloquent response. It would be something like, uh, cool. Thanks, man. So anyway, did you watch the game last night? It wouldn't even matter what game, any game. I just want to be change the subject, basically, would be the goal there.
Starting point is 00:58:58 But this is only because actual intimacy, non-sexual intimacy, right, between men no longer exists in Western culture. Male friendship in general is dying, and the kinds of friendships that men had in Lincoln's time are completely dead, which on balance, we would have to say, is not a good thing, the fact that male friendships are dying. And there are many reasons for it. Partly it's the fact that all of the spaces where men used to gather and meet have been abolished or invaded by women, which is the same as abolishing them. And partly it's the fault of the kinds of people who made this ridiculous documentary. The effort to sexualize male friendships and to interpret all intimacy between, members of the same sex as automatically sexual has had a very destructive effect.
Starting point is 00:59:49 It's not the right-wing purveyors of so-called toxic masculinity, quote-unquote, who've decided that it's gay for men to be friends. I mean, all of Western society used to be run, according to what we now consider conservative principles. We used to live in a culture with traditional ideas about masculinity, femininity, gender roles. And back then, in that context, in Lincoln's time, with a culture rooted in those ideas, men were able to form close bonds with each other. It's only when the leftists took over that suddenly male friendships became gay. Like that's their doing, and it's entirely deliberate. Like they made it weird. They made everything weird, quite intentionally. And that is why the people trying to gayify Abraham Lincoln
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