The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1446 - Democrats Set Out To Ban Memes to Protect Their Power

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

Today on the Matt Walsh Show, Gavin Newsom just signed a law in California banning "deceptive" memes. But, what qualifies as deception? And who decides? Also, residents of another small American town ...are speaking out about the Haitian migration crisis. I debate the moon landing with Joe Rogan. Howard Stern confesses that he hates his own audience. And, Australia is about to release its own version of “The Office.” Unfortunately, it looks like Australia is about as good at comedy as it is at breakdancing.   Ep.1446   - - -   DailyWire+:   From the white guys who brought you “What is a Woman?” comes Matt Walsh’s next question: “Am I Racist?” | IN THEATERS NOW! Get tickets: https://www.amiracist.com   Watch Jordan Peterson’s new series, Depression and Anxiety. Ep 1 available now, exclusively on DailyWire+: https://bit.ly/4dchGRx   Get your Matt Walsh flannel here: https://bit.ly/3EbNwyj   - - -    Today’s Sponsors:   American Financing - Call American Financing at (866) 569-4711 OR visit https://americanfinancing.net/walsh.   Disclaimer: NMLS 182334, https://nmlsconsumeraccess.org. APR for rates in the 4s start at APR 5.672% for well qualified borrowers. Call (866) 569-4711 for details about credit costs and terms.   Birch Gold - Text "WALSH" to 989898, or go to https://birchgold.com/walsh, for your no-cost, no-obligation, FREE information kit. Qualifying purchases will get an exclusive GOLDEN Truth Bomb.   Helix Sleep - Get 25% off your order + 2 dream pillows. https://helixsleep.com/Walsh   - - -   Socials:    Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3Rv1VeF   Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3KZC3oA   Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3eBKjiA   Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RQp4rs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:38 at the end of July, an anonymous account on X called Mr. Reagan USA uploaded a satire of Kamala Harris of a Kamala Harris campaign ad. The user even included this caption with his post just to make sure there wasn't any confusion. It read Kamala Harris campaign ad, parody in all caps. But in truth, the caption wasn't necessary. Anybody watching the video understood immediately
Starting point is 00:03:00 that it was a joke and a very effective and funny one at that. In case you missed it, here's part of it. I, Kamal Harris, senior Democrat candidate for president, because Joe Biden finally exposed his senility of the debate.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Thanks, Joe. I was selected because I am the ultimate diversity hire. I'm both a woman and a person of color. So if you criticize anything I say, you're both sexist and racist. I may not know the first thing about running the country, but remember, that's a good thing. If you're a deep state puppet, I had four years under the tutelage of the ultimate deep state puppet, a wonderful mentor, Joe Biden. Joe taught me rule number
Starting point is 00:03:38 one, carefully hide your total incompetence. I take insignificant things and I discuss them as if they're significant. And I believe that exploring the significance of the insignificant is itself, significant. Talking about the significance of the passage of time, right? The significance of the passage of time. So when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time, and there is such great significance to the passage of time. The United States shares a very important relationship, which is an alliance with
Starting point is 00:04:12 the Republic of North Korea. It is an alliance that is strong and enduring. And just remember when voting this November, it is important to see what can be. unburdened by what has been. And by what has been, I mean, Joe Biden. Now, this parody ad has racked up more than 60 million views. You can see why. Whatever AI voice was used, it's a pretty, it's actually very accurate one. And obviously the message that Kamala Harris is a ladder climbing moron and the ultimate diversity hire resonates with a lot of people. In particular, the ad resonated with prominent Democrats because they realized how devastating it was.
Starting point is 00:04:49 and no top Democrat was more outraged than the governor of California, Gavin Newsom. Just two days after that parody was posted on X, Newsom responded with a threat, quote, manipulating a video in an ad like this one should be illegal. I'll be signing a bill in a matter of weeks to make sure it is. Now, right off the bat, even if you put aside all the specific debate about the law, it's a pretty incredible turnaround time. I mean, when was the last time a politician saw something on social media that he didn't like and promised to outlaw it within a matter of,
Starting point is 00:05:19 of weeks. California is so corrupt and slow moving that they can't even pass legislation to fix their high-speed rail project, which is tens of billions of dollars over budget, because it's stalled for about a decade. But when it comes time to memes, when it comes to memes that offend Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom and California Democrats can move very quickly. When they are personally threatened or offended in some way, politicians spring into action. Otherwise, they just don't care. So we saw that in spades after January 6th, Congress couldn't be bothered to do anything about BLM riders who were destroying businesses and killing people all over the country. But the moment there was a rowdy protest in the Capitol, everything changed. Doors started getting kicked in. Committees were formed.
Starting point is 00:06:04 People went to prison. Now, there have been signs for a while that a similar crackdown might be coming for people who make political memes on the internet. You probably remember the case of Douglas Mackey, who was sentenced to seven months imprisonment because he mocked Hillary Clinton voters. And now, true to his word, Gavin Newsom is bringing a similar crackdown to the most populous state in the country. On Tuesday, Gavin Newsom signed three separate laws related to deepfakes and elections. He also gloated about the legislation. Watch. There's a lot of deepfakes out there.
Starting point is 00:06:35 There's not a lot of disclosure. There's not a lot of labeling. So among the many AI bills that are on the desk are three specific election-related bills. And then do you want to sign some laws? I just thought, you know, why waste your time with a politician unless they're going to do something for you? Two are signed and three are signs. And this is now official, that is now inductive relief if you do any of those deep-fake election misrepresentations. So that's how easy it is to govern in California.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Why waste your time with a politician unless they're going to do something for you? Asked Gavin Newsom. That's how easy it is to govern. Except, of course, Gavin Newsom didn't sign those bills for the benefit of any of his constituents. He signed them for the benefit of the Democrat Party. That's why there was no delay in getting these bills passed. All these bills were created this year. As far as I can tell, none of these bills existed in any form prior to 2024.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And then once the Kamala Harris Parity went up, they were fast-tracked and signed with very little debate. And that's too bad because, especially on this issue, debate would have been helpful and illuminating. for one thing, it might have helped Gavin Newsom realize that the Streisand effect is very real, and he's only increasing the popularity of this Kamala ad by trying to ban it. For another thing, more conversation would have produced a more workable solution to an actual problem that does exist. Yes, deep fakes are a problem in general. We've all probably been fooled at one point or another by a fake audio recording or a fake image.
Starting point is 00:08:11 I've been on Facebook recently. You know that there's a whole cottage industry of deliberately misleading AI-generated content on there, and they trick a lot of people every day. And as convincing as these AI voices and deepfakes are right now, they're only going to get exponentially more convincing in the future. And that's going to create all kinds of problems. I mean, something making fun of Kamala Harris is not really a problem, but it's not hard to imagine ways this technology could be used that would be legitimately harmful, if not totally catastrophic. At the same time, as Gavin Newsom himself has warned in the past, there are massive risks to over-regulation.
Starting point is 00:08:52 One of those potential risks is that we could end up sabotaging our own economy. AI is probably going to play a very big role in this country of the next few decades. Whether we like it or not, AI will be involved in everything from self-driving cars and trucks to generating thousands of lines of computer code in an instant. And by the way, I don't like it. I wish that that wasn't the case. But it is. So if politicians in this country do what they did in your...
Starting point is 00:09:16 in the European Union and start putting up all kinds of regulations and barriers, then we start falling behind as a country. And countries like China end up reaping the benefits. That's essentially the argument that Newsom himself has made actually watch. We dominate in this space, as you said, I want to continue to dominate in this space. I don't want to cede this space to other states or other countries. I mean, this is California. I'm 35 of the 50 top market cap.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Ad companies are just right here in our own backyard. So if we overregulate, if we overindulge, if we chase a sign the object, you know, we could put ourselves in a perilous position. At the same time, we have an obligation to lead because the world, again, we invented. What's confusing when you watch a relatively thoughtful answer like that is why Gavin Newsom signed these bills yesterday. One of the laws is a sweeping ban on deceptive content, whatever that means. If you post or even share deceptive deepfakes, then your post can get taken down and you can be sued in civil court. Here's how the law defines the word deceptive.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Quote, materially deceptive content means audio or visual media that is intentionally digitally created or modified, which includes but is not limited to, deep fakes, such that the content would falsely appear to a reasonable person to be an authentic record of the content depicted in the media. materially deceptive content does not include any audio or visual media that contains only minor modifications that do not significantly change the perceived contents or meaning of the content. Minor changes include changes to brightness or contrast of images, removal of background noise and audio or other minor changes that do not impact the content of the audio or visual media. Now, the ironic thing about this law is that while was intended to prevent mockery of Kamala and other Democrats, it appears to outlaw a lot of conduct that Kamala and her campaign have been engaging in over the past year or so. The other day, CNN ran a whole story about how often Kamala Harris' team posts deceptive content all over the internet.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Here's the headline, quote, fact check, Harris' campaign social media account has repeatedly deceived with misleading edits and captions. And of course, Kamala Harris herself has lied about what Donald Trump said, you know, about the Charlottesville protests and the bloodbath and the auto industry and so on and so on and so on. So why exactly is it legal for Kamala Harris and her campaign to be deceptive on social media? While at the same time, it's now illegal to create a deceptive deepfake? How are over lies protected by the First Amendment, while only AI deepfakes are illegal? And more to the point, who actually gets to decide whether something is deceptive or not? Especially when politics are involved, it's very difficult to get people to agree that anything is deceptive. For example, you can use you make the argument that the Kamala parody ad isn't deceptive.
Starting point is 00:12:08 I mean, it's labeled parody for one thing. And for another, it's a pretty accurate summary of Kamala Harris. And yet Gavin Newsom said that he'd make it illegal because in his view it's deceptive. Now, the other two laws that Newsom signed this week concerning AI and elections have the same problem. As New York Times reports, quote, the second law will go into effect in January requires labels to appear on deceptive audio, video or images in political advertisements when they're generated with help from AI tools. The third law known as the defending democracy from deep fake deception. Act will go into effect in January, require social media platforms and other websites with more than a million users in California to label or remove AI deepfakes within 72 hours after receiving a complaint. If the website does not take action, a court can require them to do so. Again, all of these laws refer only to deceptive material, which is a totally subjective standard. The only way to get around this problem is to do away with the whole idea of a ban on deceptive content. it's unworkable in the current system, not to mention unconstitutional, as Gavin Newsom is probably going to find out very soon. In order for a ban on deceptive content to work and practice,
Starting point is 00:13:16 we would need to be able to trust Gavin Newsom and any other governmental authority who passes a similar ban to act fairly and consistently and truthfully as arbiters of what is deceptive or not. Now, obviously, we can't trust them in that role, especially because these are people beholden to an ideology that denies the existence of objective truth outright. In this case, Gavin Newsom claimed that the Kamala Harris parody ad was deceptive, even though it was literally labeled parody. So who's to say that the deceptive content is, in fact, untrue or misleading? Maybe, hey, we all get our own truth, right? That's according to them.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Maybe it was true to whoever created it. If they're calling something deceptive, why can't the person who created it say, hey, this is my truth, man. In my world, this is true. You can't impose your truth on me. Maybe it's true to the majority of people who saw it, but not to far-left Democrats. What then? Why not adopt guidelines for AI content in general instead of trying to determine what's deceptive and what's not? By rushing these bills through the legislature in time for election day, the state of California has prevented these kinds of questions for being asked.
Starting point is 00:14:33 the governor was so offended by a video mocking Kamala Harris that he signed a series of heavy-handed laws very quickly. Ironically, as a result, there are now a lot of deepfakes of Gavin Newsom circulating on social media right now. And many of them are pretty funny. Unfortunately, because of these laws that Gavin Newsom just signed, people who share them in the state of California could end up like Douglas Mackey. And that could have their lives destroyed for, you know, sharing memes, even memes that are very obviously satire. And, you know, that's because tyrants always and everywhere have been unable to tolerate one thing, which is mockery. In the case of Kamala Harris, Democrats have realized that she isn't going to get any smarter or more qualified. she is incapable of improvement at this point.
Starting point is 00:15:34 She is, as Joe Biden himself has said, the embodiment of DEI. This is a fact that's so humiliating for Democrats that they want you to punish, they want to punish you for laughing about it. So until this law is overturned in the courts, there's really only one thing to do, which is to prove that the Streisand effect is still very real. Mock these people at every opportunity. Share an unapproved meme or two.
Starting point is 00:15:59 make them regret trying to ban artificial intelligence that mocks Kamala Harris's lack of actual intelligence. And then when this is over with, we can have an actual conversation about how to regulate AI and deepfakes. That's a conversation that needs to happen. And it needs to happen before truth is indistinguishable from fiction. And before politicians like Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris gain any more power than they already have. Let's get to our five headlines. All right, folks, let's talk about something that you should keep you up at night. The left's insatiable appetite for your hard-earned money.
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Starting point is 00:17:30 protect your savings with gold from Birch Gold. Text Walsh to number 989898-98. For your free info kit today, that's Walsh to 98-98-98. Unchecked third world migration is not just a problem in Springfield, Springfield, Ohio, obviously, although we're hearing about it a lot there. Many other communities are experiencing a similar crisis.
Starting point is 00:17:53 So here's a resident. This is a video that went viral yesterday. It's a resident of a small count in Alabama. Obama confronting his city council over the migrant crisis in his community. And there's no mention here. I don't believe there's any mention of dogs and cats being eaten. So we're not sure about that, but there still is a major problem because it turns out that whether or not pets are being eaten. And if they are being eaten, that would actually be not even in the top 20 list of the biggest problems caused by unchecked migration. So let's listen to what?
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Starting point is 00:19:24 Because either way, it's happening. And it's not happening against your knowledge. It's happening in your city so you know what's going on and you wanted to shut down the meeting last time which means we're going to talk about it this time and hopefully not shut down the meeting because we have the freedom of speaking this country and I wouldn't be here unless I saw that but I found that very disrespectful and very much against our human rights here in this country and also with the influx of these migrants it's against my human right to be trampled on and to have my economy and my housing prices sky
Starting point is 00:19:58 because of federal housing vouchers are going to raise the cost of housing in my city due to the influx of migrants. Okay, because we all know how that works. A landlord, all they have to do is just tell the feds that it's $5,000 a month for this little old one-bedroom apartment or whatever, and it's really only what, 800 bucks a month, but at the same time, we're getting their money from the federal government. It's raising prices on everything else around us in the community. It's hurting us. It's raising tax values on properties and it's not people coming in with a whole bunch of money that want to spend money in silicaa and boost the economy it's people that are coming here they're not like immigrants of the past all right they're immigrants that are coming in here and getting free houses free phones free
Starting point is 00:20:42 health care and not having to do a damn thing for it because it's like an invasion and as far as i know all i see are military-aged males when i walk into the walmart around here it feels like i'm in a third world airport and i don't see a whole lot of families so what's going on is what i want to know So there's a lot of anger in his voice in his words, justified anger, righteous anger. And I want to pick up on one thing that he said. He said that these are not like the immigrants of the past. And that's true. And it's an important point because we always hear that America is a nation of immigrants.
Starting point is 00:21:17 And that's supposed to justify rampant third world immigration that we're seeing today. The idea is that we can't complain about it because we're all descended from migrants ourselves. at some point in the past, which is true. I mean, at some point in the past, all of us, all of us are descended from people who at some point in the past came here from somewhere else. And that's true of anybody who lives in this hemisphere, to include those who we call quote-unquote indigenous. But there's an enormous difference, though,
Starting point is 00:21:53 and it's what the guy in the videos is hitting on here. Immigrants in the old days were coming to this country to help build the country. And that's something, the left will acknowledge that. They'll say that this country was built by immigrants. But when they say that, they're making this point for us. Because, sure, in the past, say 200 years ago, immigrants came here and they helped to build the country. They would have moved here and, in many cases, moved out to the frontier and built
Starting point is 00:22:28 a homestead and help to push our country west, taming the wilderness along the way. Right, that did happen. That's a very different thing from what is happening today. Because the immigrants who are coming here today are not moving out to the frontier. There is no frontier anymore, sadly. They're not going out into the wilderness for the most part
Starting point is 00:22:54 and building a life of those. I mean, they're not even like going out into the woods, and living in a cabin or something on a plot of land. That's not what's happening. Instead, they are coming in to take advantage of what has already been built. They're taking advantage of the infrastructure and the programs that have already been established. So they are taking. They are here to take, not to give.
Starting point is 00:23:20 They are here to receive, not to sacrifice. They're here to live off of the fat of the land, as it were. And there's a major difference between immigrants who came to take care of themselves and their families and, yes, build the country and survive on their own and thrive on their own. And on the other hand, immigrants who come from third world countries in the modern day to take advantage of government programs and entitlements and all of that. So that's the immigrant on the frontier in 1872 and the immigrant on welfare in 2024. And the immigrant on welfare in 2024, these are two entirely different categories. It's a completely different situation. And so we approach immigration or we should approach it very differently.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And that is what the guy in the video is saying. And it should be a rather obvious point. All right. My newest episode on the Joe Rogan experience dropped yesterday. And I had a great time on the show. Second time doing the show. And Joe loved the film. Am I racist?
Starting point is 00:24:42 He gave us his endorsement. So if you're a big Joe Rogan fan, you heard it from the man himself. He said it's very funny. He said, in fact, it was one of the funniest movies he's seen in a long time. So, you know, you should more incentive to go out and buy a ticket. And we talked about that for a while. We talked about the film.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And I appreciated that. And then the conversation verged into the moon landing conspiracy, which has very little to do with the movie. In fact, probably nothing at all. And that's okay, actually, because I thought it was a fascinating conversation. I enjoyed it. And I have to tell you, one of my, I mean, listen. to the Joe Rogan's podcast for, I don't know, 10 years. And this has been one of my professional ambitions now for probably a decade, is to go on
Starting point is 00:25:30 Joe Rogan's show and talk about something like that. Talk about aliens, talk about moon landing, you know, something in that vein. The first time I did the show, we didn't get into any of that kind of stuff. And so I was actually happy. I'm like, yes, this is my great ambition is to talk about this kind of thing on this show. So it was great. And I was the one who sort of brought it up. I brought it up as an aside in some other context.
Starting point is 00:25:58 We were talking about flat earth. Okay, we were talking. So there's another thing. We were talking about flat earth theory, which Joe's not a flat earth guy. And then I mentioned the moon landing conspiracy theory as an aside. I thought that Joe was a moon landing believer like I am. I know he had a joke in his Netflix special recently about denying the moon landing. I wasn't sure if that reflected his actual.
Starting point is 00:26:19 views. And we talked about it. It turns out that, as he explained, he doesn't outright deny the moon landing, but he is much more open to the possibility that it is a hoax than he was in the past. So I'll play a little bit of that conversation. But this went on, like I said, for like an hour. I think it's worth going and watching the whole thing. But this is about two and a half minutes of that exchange here. The Ger Rogan experience. You're moon landing. You're not a, you believe in the moon landing. I, you believe in the moon landing. used to believe in the moonland. You don't anymore? I had a joke in my act about it, that before COVID, I would have told you vaccines the most important invention in human history. And after
Starting point is 00:26:58 COVID, I'm like, I don't think we went to the moon. Yeah, I know that was in your, but you actually think that. I think there is a less than zero possibility that we do not go to the moon. I know. Why do you think we went to the moon? Because it's exactly what you just said about, there's a lot of reasons. But the main thing is what you just said about the earth. The the vastness of the conspiracy that would be required to fake that, it's so vast that it's just, it's a lot more incredible to believe that we faked it than to believe that we just went. And going to the moon, don't get, it's a massive achievement.
Starting point is 00:27:33 But I think the greatest human achievement of all time. But even so, to fake it would he be even more massive? Because not only would you need all of these space agencies and all the different, whatever, people in American institutions to be colluding. But you'd also need foreign governments, including adversarial foreign governments, who at this point certainly would know we faked it, and for some reason haven't blown the lid on it. So they're letting us, like, take this achievement that they know, like, why haven't the Russians come out and say? All those things you're saying are true.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I don't argue with any of the things you're saying. But one of the things that I think you have to consider was, if it's not possible for human beings to safely go through the Van Allen radiation belts and out into deep space without much protection and face the temperatures that are on the surface of the moon, which get up to 250 degrees and 250 degrees below zero in the shadows. There's no environment there. It's hostile beyond belief. Micrometeorites are flying into the moon all the time.
Starting point is 00:28:37 They're flying through space all the time. We've never had a single biological organism go out into deep space past the Van Allen radiation belts and then come back to Earth and come back alive, except human beings during the Apollo missions. Saying that it was a hoax is an assertion of a, it's not, it's not, you're not just denying an event, you're asserting a whole other event that you say happened instead. And there is evidence that we went to the moon. Now, now someone who's a skeptic might say it's not enough evidence or it's not good evidence. There's like evidence. There's eyewitness, there's people that went and came back and told us.
Starting point is 00:29:14 There's footage. There's a lot. There is evidence. But there's no evidence of the hoax. No one has come and said, here's my affirmative evidence that this hoax happened. It's never happened. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:28 So I kind of gave myself the last word in that clip. Like I said, the conversation goes on for an hour. So you have to watch the whole thing. But I think it's a pretty fair summary. Joe's primary issue, his main bone of contention is the, though not only, his main is the Van Allen Radiation belt
Starting point is 00:29:46 which he says humans might not be able to cross and my main rebuttal as you just heard is that there is strong evidence who went to the moon meanwhile there is precisely zero evidence of the hoax so
Starting point is 00:29:59 and I just want to expand on that from him because in case after watching the Rogan episodes you haven't heard me say enough on this topic already I think I made this point pretty clearly on the show
Starting point is 00:30:11 I returned to it several times, but the main thing is this, again, there is evidence of the moon landing, really good evidence. And yet there is no evidence of a hoax. And as I tried to argue, the moon landing hoax is an event. If it happened, it's an event. It is a thing that happened. it's not simply the absence of an event. So if you deny that the moon landing happened,
Starting point is 00:30:45 you're not simply denying that anything happened. You are asserting some other thing that you say happened instead of the thing that we all think happened. Staging the moon landing and all of that, right? There was a thing that they did. And yet, this to me, I think, is, really kind of decisive in this argument.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Nobody, none of the skeptics have ever presented a single shred of evidence of that event occurring. Okay, so to be very clear about this, to look at the evidence of the moon landing and to pick it apart and say, well, this evidence isn't compelling enough, that is not evidence of the hoax. That is, at best, at best, you are succeeding in calling into question. some of the evidence of this other event, which I don't think you succeed even in doing that.
Starting point is 00:31:44 And now there's a police car's going by. Maybe they're going after someone who just probably made a deceptive meme probably. Maybe they're coming from me right now. Okay, good. I don't want to cut any of this out. I want to keep all this in. This is what's wonderful about doing a podcast in a hotel room.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Anyway, as I was saying, even if you succeed in pointing to weaknesses in the evidence of the moon landing hoax, which I don't think that the skeptics do succeed in that. You still have not provided positive affirmative evidence of the event that you are asserting happened instead. And so you've got this event over here where there's a whole bunch of evidence. Okay. And then you get your event that you claim happened. You've zero evidence, none.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Now, what would the evidence of the moon landing hoax be? Not evidence that the evidence of the moon landing is not good. I'm not talking about that evidence. What kind of evidence could you possibly present to prove that this hoax happen? And, well, I don't know. I mean, that's kind of up to you. That's your burden of proof, not mine. but even something like somebody who was involved in it blowing the whistle.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Somebody coming out and saying, hey, I was there when this hoax happened, or even I talked to the guy who was there when it happened. Now, that would not be good evidence. That would be still pretty weak. If all you could do is say, well, yeah, I talked to a guy who was. there or I talk to a guy who talked to a guy. But we don't even have that. And we certainly don't have any firsthand eyewitness testimony. Because guess what? Firsthand eyewitness testimony is evidence. It's not proof. It's not proof, but that is evidence. It's just like it's evidence in a crime.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Eyewitness testimony can be wrong. We know that. But it's evidence. I mean, you certainly, if a prosecutor has eyewitness testimony that somebody killed a guy, you're going to bring that person in and they're going to testify in court. Of course they are, because it's evidence. If it's the only evidence you have, it's probably not going to be enough. But if it goes along with other pieces of evidence, then you've got a pretty strong case.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Well, over here, there's no physical evidence of any kind of this hoax happening. You know, no one's ever found whatever, the site where they've staged the moon landing or something. That's never happened. But you also don't even have the eyewitness testimony. And that's kind of what I was getting. at with Joe also that you're not only asserting this event, but you're asserting a conspiracy
Starting point is 00:34:48 where everybody that involved hundreds of people probably. I mean, there's hundreds of people who were involved in the conspiracy and or would have to have direct knowledge of it, right, in order for this to happen. And yet, we've heard nothing from any of them. Decades and decades have past. And so you've got all these people who work together on this conspiracy, all these people who have knowledge of it, none of them have said a word, not one word ever in decades. That's pretty incredible. And I say incredible in the most literal sense. It's just very hard to believe. So I still stand there. I'm still a full-time, full-on moon landing believer, but I did enjoy the conversation.
Starting point is 00:35:41 All right, Daily Wire has this radio shock jock Howard Stern said he doesn't hate former President Donald Trump, but the people who are supporters of Trump and who vote for him. During his serious XM, the Howard Stern Show podcast on Monday, Stern talked about Trump's post over the weekend in which he wrote, I hate Taylor Swift in all caps. Trump's post came on the heels of the pop stars endorsement of Vice President Kamala Harris immediately after the ABC presidential debate. This whole idea of, this is quoting now, Stern told his own, audience quote, this whole idea of you like me, you are good and if you don't, you're bad. I've been
Starting point is 00:36:15 the victim of this. I don't agree with Trump politically. I don't think he should be anywhere near the White House. He said, I don't hate the guy. I hate the people who vote for him. I think they're stupid. I do. I have no respect for you. That was what, that's what Stern said about the people who who vote for Trump. So he doesn't even hate Trump, he claims, but he hates his voters. Tens of millions of Americans said, that he hates. And you know, it's weird with Howard Stern because on one hand, and you hear this from conservatives a lot that Howard Stern has fallen off, you know, past his prime, falling off, not what he used to be. He has become a person that the younger version of himself would have hated.
Starting point is 00:36:58 And that's true. And now here he is attacking really his own audience or what used to be his audience. His audience used to be, I don't know what his audience is now. I honestly, have no idea who's still listening to this guy. I've never met. I haven't met anyone in recent years who's a Stern listener. I don't know who that. I honestly, I don't know who it is. But his audience used to be a very blue collar kind of audience. You know, all men, blue collar, middle class men, working class men, right? Men on their way to work listening in their cars. That was Howard Stern's audience. Well, the funny thing, the funny thing is that's, that's, also Trump's voter base. So Howard Stern hates the audience that made him into what he is and gave him
Starting point is 00:37:48 everything that he has. So on top of being a hateful elitist prick, he's also incredibly ungrateful. He's a backstabbing traitor to the people who turned him into this guy who's worth whatever hundreds of millions of dollars. So just a terrible human being. But then at the same time, I can't really say that he should still be the same guy that he used to be. Right. Like, I can't really lament that, oh, he should, he should still be like the Howard Stern of old. Because back then, back in his heyday, he was a degenerate freak. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Back in those days, he was like a 45-year-old pervert talking about how attracted he was to the Olson twins who were adolescents at the time. So that's who he used to be. And now he's become this. And I guess the point is that he's been a scumbag his whole life, just different versions of a scumbag. So it's not very surprising. As for hating Trump supporters, there's nothing very notable about that.
Starting point is 00:38:51 We've heard the same sentiments, maybe not quite as explicit, but close from Hillary Clinton, hear it from the media all the time, extremely common. And this is the way they all feel, of course. And it's not just about Trump. really. I mean, when Trump is no longer on the political scene, which will, that's going to be the case in relatively soon the next few years, no matter what happens.
Starting point is 00:39:19 And when he's no longer on the political scene, they're going to have this, whoever the next Republican nominee is, they're going to feel the same way about the supporters of that person, whoever it is, doesn't matter who it is. And why do they feel that way? Because if you should. show that you are defiant and you refuse to go along with the program, that being their program, the program they've set out for you. They've laid it out. They've told you this is how you're supposed to live. These are the things you're supposed to say. This is what you're supposed to do. These are the priorities you're supposed to have. The values you're supposed to have. They've laid it all out very clearly. And if you look at that and say, yeah, no thanks. I know. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to live a different way than that.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Then they hate you for that. And that's all that it really is. Which is also why any talk of unity in this country, when you hear it from, especially Democrat politician, when you hear from Kamala Harris, all that talk is just, it's meaningless. And they don't really mean it. And it can't happen.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Especially coming from people who you despise half, the country. What kind of unity can there possibly be? There has to at least be some kind of, as I talk about all the time, there has to be, number one, some kind of shared core value system. Doesn't mean we have to agree on everything, but we have to agree on something, some kind of fundamental value system. And from that, you can also have a shared mutual respect. And if you have that, then maybe you can be united in some sort of meaningful sense. But if you don't have either of those things, then unity is just impossible, unfortunately. You know what keeps me up in night, the state of our country?
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Starting point is 00:42:57 And the incredible reviews are pouring in yesterday, as I mentioned. I stopped by the world famous Joe Rogan show to talk about the movie. Take a listen to what Joe Rogan had to say about am I racist. Your movie is really funny. It's really funny. By myself, laughing out loud hysterically today. I watched it in the sauna. I watched it in the gym.
Starting point is 00:43:17 I watched it. It was, it's one of the best comedies I've seen in a long time because there's so many moments that are so uncomfortable. Well, you heard it from Joe. Don't miss out on the movie that will make you gas. laugh and cringe. If you haven't seen Amiracist yet, go to Amiracist.com and get your tickets. If you have seen Amiracist, see it again this weekend and tell your friends.
Starting point is 00:43:38 I repeat, it's only in theaters. Keep the momentum going as we make history of the box office. Head to Myrisis.com now. Now let's get to our daily cancellation. Well, if you've listened to the show at all over the past few months, you know that I've been at war with the former penal colony that is Australia, which has transformed in recent years into the single weakest and lamest healthcape on the planet.
Starting point is 00:44:05 much as it pains me to say. It doesn't pain me at all to say, but, you know, just trying to be nice. This is a country that literally has a minister of men's behavior change. Someone recently got attacked by a violent octopus on one of their beaches. Poisonous spiders are falling from the sky. They just had a major federal court decision clocking in and around 5,000 words where they couldn't decide what a woman is. And of course, as I've said many times, most recently in response to the catastrophe that is alone Australia, their TV show, their television programs are a crime against humanity. But even after calling out Australia as extensively as I have, being one of the only people in conservative media that's following this story about Australia being lame as closely as I am,
Starting point is 00:44:52 today I feel compelled, obligated even, to speak up and trash Australia once more. And that's because I learned this week that Australia is currently in the process of butchering one of my favorite comedies of all time, which is the Office. At least my favorite, one of my favorite comedies at all the time is The Office seasons one through four, and the rest of the office doesn't exist in my world. But Australia is doing a remake. And I use that term very liberally to be very clear about this. The point of this remake is not to be funny or amusing in any way. The point is to make a political statement. They want to push their ideology while also destroying the original show by association to the extent that they can. So if you can bear it,
Starting point is 00:45:34 here's part of the trailer to give you an idea of what they're planning to do to the office. Here it is. Big announcement. Can I have a drum roll please? The drum roll, Lloyd? That's your own drum roll. People ask me, how can I become a great boss? And the answer is having a happy staff that love you. This is a proper, hey-chan, nightmare. As of today, we are all back in the office full time. What? That's not good news. I'm promoting you to Productivity Manager.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Yes, sir. Do I want to support the vision of my branch manager at all costs? Is this the dark web? No, it's not the dark web. He said Lizzie? Okay. The perks are coming to work. Riling up Lizzie.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Flirting, watching Nick, rile up Lizzie. What's his name? My crow's name is Russell. Hello, Rusty. How are you, mate? How are you, mate? No! Ah! We lost one of our own last week.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Brian died. We were so close. He's always in my heart. Oh, is he the tall, sad one? Yeah. No, he was the short and smiley one. Yeah, that's what I meant. What nationality is he?
Starting point is 00:46:51 What sexual identity is he? Doesn't feel relevant, does it? Hannah is a riddle, swallowed by an idiot and by a moron. Promoting women into positions of power. That's my mantra, really? I've never heard you say that. Oh, my back hurts from Karen. from carrying all my sisters all the time.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Ow! So the guy says this is a proper HR nightmare, and then the trailer is just one banal, seemingly HR-approved scenario after another. He gets the crow's name wrong. That's pretty funny. And the crow flies around, a little bit of slapstick, and the boss lady doesn't know anything about the employee who just died,
Starting point is 00:47:28 and then she says that she likes promoting women to positions of authority. And normally, when you're making a trailer for a comedy, One of the goals, really the only goal, actually, is to include something funny. You know, maybe a joke or two. You might want to throw in there, mix it in a bit. Or maybe you can include a vaguely funny scenario at least so that people can imagine that funny things are about to happen. I can speak with some authority on this, not just because we just released a trailer for Am I Racist, but we're releasing a trailer for a comedy,
Starting point is 00:48:05 and so we spend some time talking about, oh, you know, what are the funny moments we want to put in the trailer? We definitely want to have some funny moments in the trailer. But I also speak with authority because I'm a human being with a brain and common sense. And it's a low bar for a comedy trailer to clear. But generally, you know, it gets cleared. That was not the case here. This two-minute-long trailer for the Australian reboot of the office
Starting point is 00:48:29 does not contain a single joke or, humorous situation. They had an entire season of material to harvest, and they couldn't find a single moment of real comedy. It also doesn't set up any potentially funny situations. Instead, it does the opposite. It sets up another rehash of the same kind of woke, progressive moralizing that we're all very familiar with at this point. The reference to sexual identities is a pretty big clue that this production isn't going to mock any of the insanity that's taken hold in workplaces since the American version of the office went off the air. Instead, it's going to reinforce it. As Steve Correll himself put it several years ago, this is a trap that any modern
Starting point is 00:49:06 remake of the office was always going to fall into. E Online reported 2018 that, quote, Steve Correll says the office revival won't work because its humor is completely wrong-minded today. Here's what Correll said, quote, apart from the fact that I just don't think that's a good idea, it might be impossible to do that show today and have people accept it the way that it was accepted 10 years ago. The climate's different now. I mean, the whole idea of the character, Michael Scott, so much of it was predicated on inappropriate behavior. He's certainly not a model boss. A lot of what is depicted on that show is completely wrong-minded.
Starting point is 00:49:36 That's the point. But I just don't know how that would fly now. There's a very high awareness of offensive things today, which is good for sure. But at the same time, when you take a character like that too literally doesn't really work. So Steve Correll gets it mostly right. Of course, not entirely right because he still has to qualify that, yeah, people are oversensitive today. But it's good. It's totally good.
Starting point is 00:49:55 I'm not criticizing them. which the irony here is that Steve Corell himself would never appear in the office today. He wouldn't do it because he also is woke and lame now. There's just no way that the entertainment industry as it exists today could create anything
Starting point is 00:50:15 as funny as that version of the office that he worked on. Not the original version, of course, but the actual original version, the UK version, this is even more the case. You definitely, you're not going to find that on network TV today. And that's not a good thing, as he claims. It's why so much comedy is garbage now.
Starting point is 00:50:37 So here's just one example. I mean, you can pull a million examples, just one example of a scene from the original show or the original American show that they could never do now. Watch. How are you? I just have the longest meeting. Oh, welcome to my convenience store.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Would you like some googie? I have some very delicious googie cookie, only 99 cents plus tax. Try my googie, googie, try my googie, try my googie. Now, no one watching the scene at the time thought, wow, that's so bigoted. Steve Carell should be canceled. It shows a white supremacist dog whistle.
Starting point is 00:51:17 It's problematic. Instead, they laugh because Steve Carell's character is a clueless idiot, and that's the whole point. And then they moved on with their lives. But this kind of humor isn't allowed anymore, at least not in the mainstream. because it'll be, you know, a poo from the Simpsons situation all over again.
Starting point is 00:51:34 And we may remember that character that there was a whole documentary about how problematic a poo was and then they apologized and got rid of the character from that show. And so, you know, this is what you get. And now we get safe jokes about sexual identity and that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:51:50 But the bigger red flag in that trailer is that they've gender swapped the Michael Scott and Dwight Shrut characters who are women now. Yet the characters, as we can tell from the trailer, are still supposed to retain all of the comedic traits of Michael and Dwight. But it doesn't land. Like, it is possible to create compelling female characters, even funny female characters,
Starting point is 00:52:14 but not when they are pale imitations of beloved male characters, which is how this sort of thing almost always works. It's why it's almost always lame. You know, when we see a remake and you see a bunch of women in the lead roles, everybody kind of rolls their eyes now. And then we're accused of being sexist, but it's only because we've seen this. It always goes this way. You take characters that are supposed to be male with their male, with their kind of distinctly male traits, and you just throw a woman in there, and it doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:52:44 It just doesn't work. Michael and Dwight in the American office, it's a distinctly male kind of humor. They are male characters and their character traits, the funny things about it. them only makes sense and are certainly funnier coming from men. It's just, that's it. This is a trend that's so common now that South Park did a whole special called joining the Pandiverse last year. That's the one where they transform the South Park characters into a diverse cast of strong, independent women. And Cartman, as Kathleen Kennedy of Lucasfilm demands that everything become lame and gay, watch. Is there a problem, people? No problem at all,
Starting point is 00:53:28 Mrs. Kennedy? We were just discussing ideas of what to do with the new Prince Eric movie. Put a chick in it, make her gay! Uh, yes, Miss Kennedy, uh, some of the execs are just expressing that maybe... Well, that maybe we should go a different route than we did with Indiana Jones. Indiana Jones, put a chicken in it, make her name a gay! And a diverse woman in it, make it say! But Mrs. Kennedy, Bambi's a baby deer!
Starting point is 00:53:54 Baby dear, put a chicken in, make her gay! There you are, Miss Kennedy, the linguine and clam sauce. Excuse me. I believe I asked you to put a chicken in Make her Gay. Uh, yes, the chef was a little confused what you meant by that. It means put a chicken to linguine and make her f*** gay! And I want it lame! So that one clip is guaranteed to be funnier than the entirety of the Australian remake of the Office.
Starting point is 00:54:21 And you could tell that because unlike the Australian remake of the Office, it doesn't seem like a skit that was produced by the HR department of a Fortune 500 company. and it's getting at something we all know is happening, and not just with Disney. There are too many examples to count. There was the disastrous Ghostbusters remake where they made the Ghostbusters a bunch of strong independent women. Nobody wanted to watch that. There was also the What Men Want, the remake of the 2000 film What Women Want, which didn't go over well with audiences or critics, and they gender swap the other way.
Starting point is 00:54:47 The Verge, a left-wing publication that probably wanted to like the film, wrote that the gender swap had muddled the film's plot. There was also The Hustle, which was a gender swap remake of Dirty Rotten Scouts, which had very similar problems. The Atlantic, another left-wing publication that you'd think would be sympathetic to this stuff, pan the film as, quote, a lazy gender swap. They wrote that it was, quote, not merely uninspired, but sub-inspired, de-inspired, anti-inspired. It feels at times like the consummation of some wicked dare.
Starting point is 00:55:16 It also works as a good summary of this new Australian remake of the office. That's because all these lazy gender swap projects are the same. They're driven by ideology instead of charm or passion. They're not edgy or provocative at all. they come across as a mandatory diversity training video that you'd be forced to click through at work instead of an actual piece of entertainment that's intended to make you laugh. And that's why the trailer for this doomed remake of the office didn't include a single joke. When activists pretend to be entertainers, they just can't help themselves.
Starting point is 00:55:43 All they do is destroy. They can't create. And right now they're doing everything they can to destroy one of the best comedies that ever aired on television for four seasons anyway. But the truth is that the office is a comedy that's worth rewatching, not rewatching. making, and that is why the Australian remake of the office, along with the entire country of Australia, once again, is today cancer. That'll do it for the show today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Have a great day. Grat's me.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Republicans are Nazis. You cannot separate yourselves from the bad white people. Growing up, I never thought much about race. Never really seemed to matter that much. At least not to me. Am I racist? I would really appreciate it if you love. I'm trying to learn. I'm on this journey. If I'm going to sort this out, I need to go deeper under. Cover. They don't say I'm racist. Joining us now is Matt, certified DEI expert.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Here's my certifications. What you're doing is you're stretching out of your whites. Listen more for you in this field. Is America inherently racist? The word inherent is challenging there. I want to rename the George Washington Monument to the George Floyd Monument. America is racist to its bones. So inherently.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Yeah. This country is a piece of white. White. Black. Black supremacy. White woman. White boy. Is there a black person around?
Starting point is 00:57:02 What's a black person right here? right here. Does he not exist? Hi, Robin. Hi. What's your name? I'm Matt. I just had to ask who you are because you have to be careful. Never be too careful. In theaters now, rated PG-13.

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