The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1456 - Why Debate “Moderators” Prove That The Media Is The True Enemy Of The American People

Episode Date: October 3, 2024

Today on the Matt Walsh Show, the media has done a lot of "fact-checking" during this election, and especially during the debates. Unfortunately, every single fact check has been wrong. Also, Kamala H...arris takes the side of the dockworker union that's threatening to cripple the economy. A lib journalist gets horribly offended when a flight attendant tells her to have a blessed day. And Jussie Smollett emerges from hiding to explain to the world why he's still a victim.   Donate to help victims of Hurricane Helene in North Carolina: https://bit.ly/4dqCJA8   Ep.1456   - - -   DailyWire+:   Join the Fight for 47 with 47% Off NEW Annual DailyWire+ Memberships using code FIGHT! https://dailywire.com/subscribe   From the white guys who brought you “What is a Woman?” comes Matt Walsh’s next question: “Am I Racist?” | IN THEATERS NOW! Get tickets: https://www.amiracist.com   Join The Candle Club! Become a Founding Member for 20% OFF, plus receive an exclusive members box with limited-edition candle at https://TheCandleClub.com   Get your Matt Walsh flannel here: https://bit.ly/3EbNwyj   - - -    Today’s Sponsors:   American Financing - Call American Financing at (866) 569-4711 OR visit https://americanfinancing.net/walsh. Disclaimer: NMLS 182334, https://nmlsconsumeraccess.org. APR for rates in the 4s start at APR 5.672% for well qualified borrowers. Call (866) 569-4711 for details about credit costs and terms.   BetOnline - Use code "Walsh" to receive a 50% signup bonus of up to $250 at https://www.betonline.ag   - - -   Socials:    Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3Rv1VeF   Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3KZC3oA   Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3eBKjiA   Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RQp4rs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today in the Matt Wall Show, the media has done a lot of fact-checking during this election, and especially during the debates. Unfortunately, every single fact-check has been wrong. We'll go through the list today. Also, Kamala Harris takes the side of the dock worker union that's threatening to cripple the economy. A lib journalist gets horribly offended when a flight attendant tells her to have a blessed day. And Jesse Smollett emerges from hiding to explain to the world why he's still a victim. All of that. And more today on the Matt Wall Show. Get 47% off new DailyWire Plus memberships with code fight at dailywired.com slash subscribe. You'll get uncensored, unfiltered, ad-free shows, real-time-breaking news alerts, and more.
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Starting point is 00:02:30 there was one glaring similarity. The moderators weren't able to keep their mouth shut. In the first debate, the rules allowed the moderators to fact-check, whatever that means exactly. In the second debate, the rules didn't allow fact-checking, but in both cases, the moderators couldn't help themselves anyway. they weighed in over and over again. And every single time they interjected to help whatever Democrat was standing at the podium,
Starting point is 00:02:52 of course. And the format of these fact checks was always the same, too. The moderators would wait for Donald Trump or J.D. Vance to stop speaking. And then they'd hastily recite a rehearsed one-line correction. And then they'd immediately try to change the subject so that Trump or Vance couldn't respond. And this would be disgraceful, even if these moderators were telling the truth. The whole point of a debate is to hear from the candidates, not the moderators. But even if you disagree on that point, I mean, even if you think that it's good for the moderators
Starting point is 00:03:20 to intervene when they think a candidate is lying, it's still not clear why they would refuse to let the candidates respond to their fact checks. This wasn't an accident. It was how they approached every single one of these fact checks across two debates and two sets of moderators. And it's worth figuring out why that is. Now, it could be that many on the left don't engage in any kind of critical thought anymore. They just look at the consensus view as reflected by the fact check, and they declare that no further
Starting point is 00:03:50 questioning is allowed. They genuinely can't conceive of a situation in which there might be a consensus, but the consensus might be mistaken. On the other hand, it could also be that in this context, the moderators realize that their fact checks would fall apart under any form of scrutiny, and indeed, with every day that passes, that's exactly what's happening. One by one, every single one of these fact checks from these two debates is collapsing. And these are not small errors that we're talking about here.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Take, for example, this moment from the debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, Trump was asked about his position on abortion, and he gave a long answer. And then the moderator, Lindsay Davis, fired off a one-line fact check before pivoting immediately to Kamala Harris. Watch. They have abortion in the ninth month. They even have, and you can look at the governor of West Virginia, the previous governor of West Virginia, not the current governor is doing an excellent job, but the governor before, he said the baby will be born and we will decide what to do with the baby. In other words, we'll execute the baby. And that's why I did that,
Starting point is 00:04:56 because that predominates, because they're radical. The Democrats are radical in that. And her vice presidential pick, which I think was a horrible pick, by the way, for our country, because he is really out of it. But her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine. He also says execution after birth. It's execution, no longer abortion, because the baby is born, is okay. And that's not okay with me. Each individual state is voting. It's the vote of the people now.
Starting point is 00:05:27 It's not tied up in the federal government. I did a great service in doing it. It took courage to do it. And the Supreme Court had great courage in doing it. And I give tremendous credit to those six justices. There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born. Madam Vice President, I want to get your response to President Trump. Well, as I said, you're going to hear a bunch of lies, and that's not actually a surprising fact.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Now, at the time, a lot of people pointed out the obvious problem with this fact check. Donald Trump never actually said that it was legal to kill babies after they were born, but he did say that it was happening. And he cited a very specific and well-known piece of evidence. the former governor of Virginia, Ralph Northam, strongly suggested to a radio show in 2019 that in certain cases, such as fetal abnormalities,
Starting point is 00:06:13 his bill would allow doctors to kill children after they're born. Actually, he didn't really even suggest it. He flat out said it. Quote, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen, the infant will be delivered, the infant will be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated
Starting point is 00:06:27 if that's what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. Now, defenders of Ralph Northam recognized how twisted and demonic that quote is. So for the past several years, they've insisted that he wasn't talking about euthanizing children who survived failed abortions. And they claimed the governor wasn't actually talking about allowing newborn infants to die either. Presumably, that's the spin that Lindsay Davis had in mind when she corrected Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:06:55 during this debate. She declared with authority that there's no state in the entire country where it's legal to kill children after they're born. What was missing from her fact check is what John Solomon at Just the News has now proven, which is that children are being born alive in this country, and then doctors are allowing them to die without even attempting any life-saving intervention. It turns out that until 2023, the state of Minnesota kept records on how many infants were born alive during failed abortions, and those records show that from 2019 to 2021,
Starting point is 00:07:28 during Tim Walz's 10 years governor, at least eight infants were born alive. following a botched abortion. Not a single one of those infants received life-saving care. The two infants in 2021 received comfort care. All eight of the children died. So all of them were left to die, were allowed to die, which is morally indistinguishable from directly killing them.
Starting point is 00:07:56 It's the same thing. And none of the doctors involved were ever investigated or charged for any of the, this, even though at the time Minnesota law required, quote, responsible medical personnel to use, quote, all reasonable measures consisting with good medical practice to preserve the life and health of the born-alive infant. Well, they didn't, and they weren't charged with anything. But just to cover his basis, Tim Walts changed the law in 2023, and now the law does not require life-saving measures at all for infants who survive abortions. Instead, it requires that doctors care for the
Starting point is 00:08:29 infant who is born alive without specifying exactly what that care entails. So they change the law so that it no longer specifies that you actually have to give life-saving care to the infant. The law also gets rid of the report inquirement for the state health agency. So nobody can learn how many children are being killed or allowed to die. Again, the same thing after they're born. Now, if you look at the records that Solomon found, you can see why. Democrats might want to cover them up. They're as ghoulish as you can imagine.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Here's the July 2020 report for Minnesota, for example. Quote, in one instance, fetal anomalies were reported, but residual cardiac activity was present at two minutes. Care of fetus was transferred to the second medical doctor. No measures taken to preserve life were reported and the infant did not survive. In one instance, comfort care measures were provided as planned and the infant did not survive. In one instance, the infant was pre-viable. No measures taken to preserve life were reported, and the infant did not survive. Now, notice that the report doesn't even bother to clarify whether life-saving measures could have saved some of these infants.
Starting point is 00:09:45 That's not a piece of information that the health department decided to track for some reason, because it's irrelevant to them. They don't recognize that the infant has any right to be alive in the first place. But the report is very clear on the fact that children who survived abortions were consistently allowed to die in the state of Minnesota without any attempt by a doctor to save them. No measures taken to preserve life is a consistent theme here. You don't get any more information than that. And rather than provide any more transparency on this point, the state, under Tim Walls, has gone ahead and shut down recordkeeping entirely. They want us to know less about how these infants are being treated. and how many infants are being allowed to die.
Starting point is 00:10:30 The dispatch looked into this reporting, and they confirmed that it's all accurate. Quote, Charlie Kirk and Solomon's claims are correct. Minnesota Department of Health documents show that eight infants were born alive during abortion procedures between 2019 and 2020, and in 2023, Wall's signed legislation that repealed most of a statute designed to protect infants born alive after an abortion attempt. So the truth is that Lindsay Davis either has no idea what she was talking about, or she was deliberately lying, probably the latter.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Either way, it's beyond reprehensible that no mainstream media organization in this country has bothered to do any investigative reporting on this topic. Apparently, only John Solomon is interested in the question of whether or not children are being systematically killed or allowed to die after they're born. The most we can expect from ABC is a drive-by fact check during a presidential debate with a lot of snark and no substance whatsoever. And also, by the way, just so you understand, allowing infants to die after they're born
Starting point is 00:11:30 is the mainstream view of the Democratic Party. This is what nearly every mainstream Democrat believes in this. Because politically and ideologically, they have to, or they believe they have to. Because if a baby survives abortion and you provide medical care to the child at that point, then you are acknowledging two things. One, you're acknowledging that the baby is a human being.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Two, you're acknowledging that abortion is an act of violence that has been committed against this human. You're providing medical care to try to reverse what you were just doing to the baby. I mean, that's... Think about it. The doctor is trying to kill the baby. The baby survives.
Starting point is 00:12:23 And now if he's providing medical care, now he's trying to reverse the thing that he was just doing to the baby 10 seconds ago. So that's why every Democrat. Now, they're not going to talk about it. They obviously don't want to talk about it. And they'll flat out deny it because they're a bunch of lying scumbags. But no, you're not going to find any mainstream Democrat who actually comes out and says, yeah, yeah, you got to provide medical care for the reasons I just gave. They cannot acknowledge the violence of abortion or the personhood and humanity of the child. And this alone should be, I mean, the fact, even if it was just eight infants in one state over the course of three or four years who were just left in the corner of a room and allowed to die, even if that was all, it should be a major national scandal.
Starting point is 00:13:14 It should be one of the biggest scandals in the country right now. Everybody cares about. Everybody's talking about. And it's not just those eight. This is happening all across the country. And yet we just gloss over it. So to get a sense of how big, even aside from beyond this one incredibly important issue, to get a sense of how these fact checks work, fact checks work in, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:47 in general, I went back and looked at every single fact check from these two debates, and every single one of them was either obviously false or extremely misleading. Now, I already covered the FBI's crime numbers, which supposedly show that violent crime is down. The moderator, David Muir, cited those statistics in his fact check during the Kamala Trump debate without providing any context, including the missing law enforcement agencies who didn't report data or the DOJ's report showing that crime is actually surged under the Biden-Harris administration. Then there was his claim that no credible reports indicated that animals were being eaten in Springfield. Watch.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I just want to clarify here. You bring up Springfield, Ohio, and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there. He told us there had been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals within the immigrant community. Well, I've seen people on television. Let me just say here, this is the people on television say my dog was taken and used for food. So maybe he said that and maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager. I'm not taking this from television. But the people are television saying their dog was eaten.
Starting point is 00:14:54 So the city manager says it's not credible to suggest that domesticated animals are being killed in the migrant community. And the moderator and Connell Harris mock Trump for saying that he saw those reports on television. And then it turns out that back in March, the Springfield city manager himself did say that there were quite a few credible reports of horrid things happening to domestic animals in Haitian communities in the town. Watch. One of the things that I heard that bothered me very much, I've actually had quite a few people contact me here lately, is some pretty horrid things occurring to domestic hated animal in the neighborhood. We've had some stuff in the park that, again,
Starting point is 00:15:34 they're being taken advantage of for reasons other than. And if you shake your head, Brian. No, no, no, I asked me if there was proof. They just don't have proof of them. People that have confided in me have asked me for anonymity. I'm not, I can't give their names up. I mean, we haven't seen the proof that you're, that you're dumb. And I've heard about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:56 So that's another fact check that was just a complete lie. And actually, Trump called it out in real time. He said the city manager was probably just trying to give a political answer when ABC News called. And, and that's exactly what was happening. So let's go down the list. There was also this fact check from the debate two days ago. Watch. Scientists say climate change makes these hurricanes larger, stronger, and more deadly because of the historic rainfall.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Another drive-by fact check that the candidates were not allowed to respond to. And it's also completely false, as I've outlined many times before. Here's how Chris Martz, the same meteorology student that I mentioned the other day on the show, responded to this particular fact check, quote, there's absolutely zero evidence that climate change makes hurricanes larger, size, i.e. diameter. There's little evidence that hurricanes are becoming stronger. The number of category three to five hurricanes globally exhibit no statistical significant trends since 1980. This is backed by peer-reviewed research. There's no evidence that hurricanes are becoming deadlier because of better warning coordination. Deaths are down by more than 75% since 1900
Starting point is 00:16:59 because of that. Chris Martz, again, is a meteorology student, and he knows enough to check the actual data before he makes wildly false claims about what scientists say. So what exactly is the excuse of a major media organization for doing this in front of 40 million people. Whatever that excuse is, they're still doing it, long after the debate is over. Around midnight, CBS News posted this headline, quote, During the vice presidential debate, Senator Jaddy Vance claimed Vice President Harris became the appointed border czar. CBS News confirmed rates this as false. Oh, they rated it as false.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Well, that's all there is to it then. The fact check claims that Harris was just assigned to investigate the root causes of migration, rather than to oversee enforcement of the law. But if you pull up articles from CBS's own website, you'll find out very quickly that they're lying. Here's an article from 2021, for example, quote, Harris to lead administration's efforts to stem migration at the border. President Biden announced Wednesday that he had tapped
Starting point is 00:17:55 Vice President Kamala Harris to lead the administration's efforts to stem migration at the southern border. Not just to investigate why migration's happening, but to stem the migration. At this point, I'm honestly looking for a single fact check that pans out. From what I could tell, none of them have any validity whatsoever. It's actually kind of incredible. And, of course, there was no fact check that was more incredible than this one, which we talked about the other day.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Let's see it again. Temporary protected. Well, Marga, but... Senator, we have so much to get to. Margaret, I think it's important because... We're going to turn out of the economy, thank you. Margaret, the rules were that you guys weren't going to fact check. And since you're fact-checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on.
Starting point is 00:18:34 So there's an application called the CBP One app where you can go on as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for parole, and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wand. That is not a person coming in, applying for a green card and waiting for 10 years. That is the facilitation of a legal immigration, Margaret, by our own leadership. Thank you, Senator, for describing the legal process. And Kamala Harris opened up that pathway. Those laws have been on the book since 1990. Thank you, gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:19:06 The CBB-B-1 app has not been on the books. It's something that you're all right here was created for. Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut. We have so much we want to get to. Thank you for explaining the legal process. So that was egregious for all the reasons we talked about yesterday. You know, cutting the mics. I mean, there's just no reason why you should ever cut the mics during a presidential,
Starting point is 00:19:30 vice presidential debate, especially cutting the mics so that the moderators can talk. nobody cares about you. Nobody wants to hear from you. This is not about you. You are totally irrelevant as the moderator. You are completely irrelevant. Your opinions, you're everything. Irrelevant.
Starting point is 00:19:50 We don't care. So cutting the mics so the moderators could talk is just, it's insane. So the moderators decided to break the rules to enter the debate on behalf of Kamil Harris. Yes, J.D. Van, was right that to the extent these tens of thousands of Haitians, are legally in the country. It's only because the federal government has decided to bend the rules and award them mass amnesty. And yes, it's comical that the moderator doesn't fact-check Tim Walz's claim that this has been going on to the same extent since the 90s.
Starting point is 00:20:24 But in retrospect, you can kind of see why the moderators decided to cut the microphones. After all, every single one of their fact checks up to this point had been wrong. Some of them were called out in real time, while others fell apart immediately on social media. And now, after all that, they realized that yet a lot of the fact. another one of their fact checks was blowing up in their faces, so they pressed the panic button. At this point, the only viable solution, as I've been advocating for a long time, is to eliminate moderators from future debates entirely. They've inserted themselves repeatedly into the discussion, only to spread falsehoods and confuse the issues. And they haven't been
Starting point is 00:21:00 right about, they haven't been wrong on insignificant topics either. They've been wrong about really significant things, whether illegal aliens are. killing animals. They've been wrong about how many Americans are being victimized every year by violent crimes. They've been wrong about whether children are being allowed to die after they're born. These mistakes, quote unquote, only go in one direction. And that's for reason, which is that they're not mistakes at all. The truth is that there are very powerful forces in this country that want to enable these atrocities. And after these moderators are all discarded along with their useless fact checks, we need to make sure that those ghouls never hold power again.
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Starting point is 00:23:12 deserve a fair share of these record profits. Harris also threw in a barbeder opponent, accusing former president Donald Trump of making empty promises to workers and promising that she will have workers' backs and fight for an opportunity economy. Donald Trump, on the other hand, this is her now, wants to pull us back to a time before workers had the freedom to organize. Donald Trump makes empty promises after empty promise to American workers, but never to delivers. He thinks our economy should only work for those who own the big skyscrapers, not those
Starting point is 00:23:40 who actually build them. The dockworkers union has donated more than $1.6 million to Democrats. Union President Harold Daggett endorsed Joe Biden. And Daggett himself made $728,000 last year as union president, plus another $173,000 as President Emeritus of the New Jersey local. So he's at about $900,000 this guy's making. Close to a million. Okay, so there are, this is, and I mentioned this yesterday, this is starting to look more and more like a setup,
Starting point is 00:24:19 this whole dock worker strike thing. I mean, there are two possibilities, and the first possibility is that it's all what it appears to be on the surface. So you have this millionaire union boss living in a mansion with his Bentley, making $900,000 a year, who's now threatening to cause grave harm to American families in order to enrich himself and his friends,
Starting point is 00:24:42 dock workers who were already offered a 50% raise, which is substantial, but they want a 77% raise, I think, in spite of the fact that by global standards, our dock workers are extremely slow and inefficient.
Starting point is 00:25:02 mostly because they've rejected all forms of automation. So by global standards, this is a subpar job as being done. And they want a 77% raise as a reward. And they're willing to cripple the economy and harm your family in order to get it. That's what's happening on the surface. If that's what this really is, then it's unjustifiable from a moral perspective. to hold the American economy and American families hostage so that you, who's already well paid,
Starting point is 00:25:38 can just make more money. Especially as we talked about yesterday, they don't even really have any examples. They're hardly even claiming that they're being mistreated or anything like that. It's just they just want more money. They just want more. And according to them, they're willing to, they don't care who gets hurt.
Starting point is 00:26:06 They'll cause harm to hundreds of millions of people. That's what it takes. They just want more money. And, okay, I mean, if that's the attitude you want to have, but you're definitely not the good guy. Like, you are the bad guy. It's possible this could be a dispute where both sides are bad guys. That happens a lot, but you're definitely a bad guy. The only other thing we heard in terms of specific demands, well, they want a lot more money.
Starting point is 00:26:36 We all heard yesterday that they don't feel appreciated. People don't appreciate us. Grow up. Okay? Nobody feels appreciated. Nobody does. No one does. What do you want?
Starting point is 00:26:51 Do you need the whole country to get together and throw you a pizza party? Make a thank you note? How much ass kissing? Do grown men require? How much appreciation are you giving to other people who do important jobs? So that's one possibility, but that's only if it's all legitimate. The other possibility, which to me seems increasingly likely, is that this is being staged to give Kamala a big win heading into the election.
Starting point is 00:27:24 It would be a perfect fake story for her, right? It lines up perfectly. The dock workers are going on strike. The economy is going to be crippled. She's losing the union vote increasingly. So what do you do about that? Well, she takes the dock workers side, earns points with the unions, brokers a deal. A deal that in this scenario is already inevitable.
Starting point is 00:27:55 It's already on the table. like she's not actually doing anything. But it's all for show. It's a big pageant. And the strike is averted. And now she has saved the economy. She's pandered to the unions. And she can present herself as the ultimate deal maker undercutting Trump's, you know, big selling point.
Starting point is 00:28:15 So that could be what's happening here. And if that is what's happening, we'll know in the next, we'll know pretty soon. And if that's the plan, then it's pretty clever. It's devious, dishonest, evil, but it is clever. I guess it's a question of whether Kamala or at least her handlers are clever enough to have thought of a plan like that. Am I giving them too much credit by thinking that this might be that this is all a setup and this is the plan here? I don't know. But as I said, we'll find out.
Starting point is 00:28:49 It is, the timing is just, it's, the timing is really convenient. Well, it's either really convenient or really inconvenient for the Democrats. Because if it's not a setup and they actually are going on strike and the strike lasts till past the election, well, that it is going to cripple the economy. That's obviously going to hurt the incumbent anymore. And Kamala Harris is the incumbent. But these are all Democrats who donate to Democrats. So would they do that?
Starting point is 00:29:19 right before an election. It's hard to believe. All right. The Guardian has this report, this rather unfortunate report, we must say. Melania Trump made an extraordinary declaration and an eagerly awaited memoir
Starting point is 00:29:36 to be published a month from Election Day. She's a passionate supporter of a woman's right to control her own body, including the right of abortion. The Republican nominee's wife writes amid a campaign in which Donald Trump's threats to women's reproductive rights have played a central role. So the Guardian is still a little little bit of editorializing. Not a little bit. But she wrote, it is imperative to guarantee that
Starting point is 00:29:59 women have autonomy in deciding their preference of having children based on their own convictions free from any intervention or pressure from the government. Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the power to determine what she does with her own body? A woman's fundamental right of individual liberty to her own life grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if she wishes. Restricting a woman's right to choose whether to terminate an unwanted pregnancy is the same as denying her control
Starting point is 00:30:23 over her own body. I've carried this belief with me throughout my entire adult life. So this is a full-on pro-abortion. This is not even, you know, we believe in exceptions, life of the mother and all that kind of stuff. This is just full-on,
Starting point is 00:30:36 this is the view of abortion that Kamala Harris has. It is radically, it is, in fact, radically pro-abortion. And that's what Melania Trump is saying. Now, a couple of things about this. First of all, just to respond to the argument that Malani is making, and she is making an argument, she's put it in a book, and she's putting it out there for the world. So we should respond to the argument, and it's a bad argument.
Starting point is 00:31:08 It's a familiar argument. It's the same one we hear from pro-abortion people all the time, and it's just a really bad argument. Okay? You've heard me say it a million times. So now here's a million and one. But this is not about the woman's body. It is not a question of what the woman does with her own body. There is another body in the mix here.
Starting point is 00:31:36 That is what we're talking about. And the child's body is his own body. The child's body in the womb is not an extension of the woman. body, it is not a limb or an organ. Biologically, it's not. It is a whole other entity. And you can call that entity what you want. You can use the word fetus as a euphemism if you want. I don't care what, I don't care what words you use. You can make up your own word. But what you cannot deny scientifically and biologically is that this is a separate body, a separate entity, and that entity is
Starting point is 00:32:17 alive. If he's not alive, then the abortion wouldn't be necessary. And he is human. Because human is a species. And if he's not that species, then what the hell species is he? So we've established that this is a separate body. It is living and it is human. All three of those things are not up for discussion. Those are just facts. Okay? It is a, the sun is at the center of our solar system. Like, it's a fact like that. You could argue it, but you're just wrong. Like, if you continue arguing past that, the argument's over. You can keep talking, but the argument is actually over.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Because we've said something that's a fact that's undeniable and it's self-evident. So that's what we're talking about. Now, yes, the child's body is dependent upon the mother's body for survival. That's true. So are we saying that if another person's body, depends on you for survival, you automatically have the moral and legal right to directly kill that other person because they depend on you for survival. That's the argument pro-aborts are making. That's the argument Melania Trump is making, although they won't come out
Starting point is 00:33:52 and actually say that. Because that is the actual argument is not, oh, it's the woman's body. This is not the woman's body. Their actual argument is this separate body depends on the woman for survival, therefore she gets to be judged during executioner. She has the moral right to kill the child. And that is less a scientific argument than it is a moral argument, and I think it's a morally deranged argument, especially because the child, yes, is dependent on the mother for survival in the womb. Guess what? The child will also be dependent on the mother outside of the womb. like singularly dependent on the mother for a long time outside of the womb. Not just in the first couple hours.
Starting point is 00:34:51 An infant child is totally vulnerable, totally helpless, and is completely dependent on his parents, and particularly his mother for survival. And the mother's body. That's what breastfeeding is. And now you could point out that, well, yeah, the woman is not legally required. to breastfeed. True. But the woman is legally required to either breastfeed the child or provide a substitute for breastfeeding, legally required to do it. If she were to say, you know what, it's my body, it's not my responsibility. So I'm not going to breastfeed this child. I'm not going to
Starting point is 00:35:36 give them any substitute for breastfeeding. My body, I'm taking control of my body, and I'm going to do what I want, and that's it. If she says that, the child starves to death, and guess what happens there? She goes to prison. And it's going to be no use, her saying, well, I want to do what I want with my own body. No, no, no. You have a special responsibility to that child. You don't have a special responsibility necessarily to the child across the street.
Starting point is 00:36:08 If the child across the street starves to death, God forbid, we're not going to put you in jail for that. Okay, children all over the world. horrible things happen to them all the time, tragically. We don't hold you responsible for that because they're not your children. But your child, we do. And so if your child starves to death, you go to jail. Because outside of the womb, we recognize that you as the parent have a special responsibility to your own child. It is a responsibility that requires a lot of you.
Starting point is 00:36:46 It requires your body, your money, your child. time, your soul, your energy, everything, your heart, soul, mind, everything is poured into the job of parenting. And it is a, and you have autonomy. You have no autonomy as a parent. You have no autonomy from your child. Your child is utterly dependent on you. And we recognize that as a responsibility. The pro-life argument is simply that, well, that responsibility. That responsibility responsibility starts at the moment that the child exists, not at the moment that the child is born. That's our argument, and it makes a lot of sense. I mean, if we all recognize that that responsibility exists from the parent to the child,
Starting point is 00:37:41 then why would it, why do you get a nine-month grace period where that you're not responsible for your child? What? The child exists, doesn't he? So that's how we respond to that argument. as far as the fact that Kamala Harris, as far as the fact that Maloney Trump has written this in a book, I think as other conservatives have pointed out, one of the sad realities of the Republican Party is that every Republican First Lady
Starting point is 00:38:17 since Rovi-Wade has been pro-abortion. And we could have a whole conversation. about why that's the fact, but that is the fact. So, and it is important to note here. I don't think it lets Melania Trump off the hook. She is horribly wrong about this, but she is in company with every other Republican First Lady. And that doesn't reflect,
Starting point is 00:38:48 her position is not Donald Trump's position. She is not in the position of legislating or governing. In general, I've always said, I want to get first ladies less involved. Like, I don't, and I've been very, I'm not just saying this now. I've always said this. You know, if you listen to the show, I don't care. The first ladies, I don't care about them.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I want to see less of them. We don't need to give you little projects and stuff. You actually are not, we didn't elect you. You really don't matter. You matter to your husband, hopefully, but, and to your family. But to the country, there's really not, you're not the queen. You know, this is not actually a monarchy. And so your positions, your political views, it's actually not that important to me.
Starting point is 00:39:35 I don't really care that much. And that applies to Melania Trump as well. But it is really unfortunate timing. Like, why are we putting this out right now? And I will only reiterate something that I've said now a few times, a concern that I have, which is that most likely the, we know this is going to be a very close to. collection. And it's the candidate that can mobilize their own base the most is probably going to win. Yeah, you got to win the independence. You have to go and you have to try to steal some from
Starting point is 00:40:23 the other side, some of the, you know, you got to do all that, the moderates and everything. But you got to mobilize your own base. And one of my concerns is that the pro-life base is just being relentlessly demoralized. I mean, it's every week. It's another thing. One thing after another after another. And yeah, we should say to pro-life voters, you got to vote for Donald Trump. I have said that so many times. I'll say it again. If you're a pro-life voter, you got to vote for Donald Trump. Even if you're pissed off about some of this stuff, you got to vote for Donald Trump. If you care about saving babies, you vote for Donald Trump. Kamala Harris, there's no question about one thing.
Starting point is 00:41:12 She is much worse on this subject than Trump is. Not only do more babies die if Kamala is elected, but also more pro-lifers go to prison. They just sent another pro-lifer to prison, I think, this week. They're on a holy war, an unholy war against pro-lifers. And that will continue and be ramped up. Kamala Harris, she did this when she was attorney. general in California. Going after pro-lifers and throwing them in prison, that's like one of her favorite
Starting point is 00:41:47 things to do. And the Biden administration is already doing it, she is going to, I'm telling you right now, for all the pro-lifers who are thinking about staying home and not voting for Trump, you do so at the risk not only of babies, but of yourself. Because when Kamala gets into office, she's not going to say, okay, well, you're, you didn't vote for Trump, so you're one of the good ones. No, she is going to try to criminalize, flat-out criminalize pro-life activism. It's already happening and it's going to get so much worse under Kamala, which is, of course, a secondary concern to the greater concern, which is that more children will die. So if you're a pro-lifer, you've got to go and vote for Donald Trump. It shouldn't even
Starting point is 00:42:35 be like a reluctant or hesitant or anything kind of vote. It should be a, let's go in there eagerly and vote for this guy because Kamala would be the most pro-abortion, anti-life president of all time, hands down, right? So all that said, it still is true that politically a demoralized base isn't good. It's not going to help you. It's going to hurt you. And so one worry I have is that the pro-life base has been so relentlessly demoralized. And I think that's something that Trump campaign needs to take note of.
Starting point is 00:43:21 And it's like you got to give them something, give them a reason to be excited before election day. All right. I'll briefly mention this. This is a fun story from a few days ago. reports. Social media users mocked Mother Jones editor-in-chief Clara Jeffrey after she publicly complained about a flight attendant wishing her and other passengers a blessed night at the end of a recent flight.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Jeffrey ridiculed the flight attendant in a recent ex post saying her send-off was evidence of creeping Christian nationalism in the country and pointing out all the other less Christian adjectives she could have used. What she actually tweeted was, creeping Christian nationalism alert. Alaska Air flight attendant just wished us a blessed night as we landed in SFO, which is the San Francisco airport, to groans. Other adjectives that would have sufficed, great, awesome, fabulous, amazing, fantastic. She added, as my roommate said, this ain't Montgomery, sweetie. So Claire Jeffely has since taken this post down.
Starting point is 00:44:36 She deleted it. She was absolutely hammered for it, ruthlessly mocked and derided for complaining about someone saying, Have a Blessed Night. Justifiably. Justifiably made fun of, obviously. Meanwhile, of course, the Internet went to work on her, and they did what the Internet does. And very quickly, many people have uncovered several examples, including really recent examples, of Clara Jeffrey herself using the term blessed in the same context.
Starting point is 00:45:08 she had said exactly the thing that offended her when the flight attendant said it. In fact, she had even specifically praised other people, including Obama, I believe, for using the phrase, God bless. So this woman is a shameless hypocrite, no surprise there. Bless her heart, of course. But this story does, I think, illustrate an important point. It goes to show what the label Christian nationalist now means, because it gets tossed around a lot.
Starting point is 00:45:38 We're constantly told that we need to worry about these Christian nationalists. And you might think, well, if you don't know any better, you'll think what's wrong with being a Christian nationalist? Isn't that just a nationalist who is also Christian? And isn't a nationalist simply someone who prioritizes his own nation? So isn't a Christian nationalist, a Christian who prioritizes his own nation? which is another way of saying patriot? You might think that, but that's not what the left means when they say it.
Starting point is 00:46:12 In fact, it hasn't been exactly clear what they do mean, except that we're supposed to be afraid of these people, these Christian nationalists, whoever they are and whatever they believe. Well, now we know. Now we have more clarity about what is meant by Christian nationalist. A Christian nationalist is someone who wishes you a blessed day on an airplane. somebody who says, God bless you when you sneeze is a Christian nationalist.
Starting point is 00:46:39 So in other words, a Christian nationalist is just a Christian. Even though, I mean, really, you could say have a blessed day or you could say God bless you and not even be a Christian. But the thing that offends her about it is that she suspects that this is evidence that this flight attendant is Christian. So she's connecting the two. And what actually offends her is that is the faith of this, the alleged faith of this flight attendant.
Starting point is 00:47:07 So a Christian nationalist is just a Christian of any type, is now a Christian nationalist. Or maybe we should say a Christian nationalist is a Christian who does or says something publicly to make their faith known. Because I think Claire Jeffrey would be the first to say that, no, she doesn't have a problem with you being Christian. Just don't, as long as you're Christian only in your head, and you don't ever do or say anything publicly to ever indicate that that's your religion, then it's fine.
Starting point is 00:47:45 You can be Christian all you want in your own head. She might even let you go to church if you're lucky, for now anyway. You could even go to church. Well, it depends on what the church is and what they're saying there. But, you know, there are some churches that she would let you go to. but once you start to in any way even in the most benign way
Starting point is 00:48:08 once you start to make your faith known once you start to you know once you start to let the light shine so that it's not hidden under a basket once you start to do that then you're a Christian nationalist and you're a terrible person that's the basic idea
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Starting point is 00:50:42 who has emerged from hiding to, as they say, speak his truth. Actually, he's promoting a new film that he wrote, directed, and starred in. It's a long-awaited feature, hotly anticipated by the legions of Jesse fans out there, of which, needless to say, I am one, probably the only one. And as part of his promotional tour, he sat down for an in-depth interview with People magazine, where he, for the first time, I believe, spoke at length about the horrific attack in 2019 that nearly cost him his life and his subway sandwich. Many people think that the attack must have been somewhat less devastating simply because he planned
Starting point is 00:51:19 and choreographed and paid for it himself. But you could argue that that only makes it more devastating. I mean, it's a terrible thing to be assaulted on a street corner two in the morning. imagine how much more terrible it must be when you are the one assaulting yourself. It's kind of the ultimate betrayal. So, of course, in this interview, Jussie does not admit that he assaulted himself. He maintains his innocence to this very day. And the journalist conducting the interview, her name is Esther Kang, doesn't press him on it or challenge him in any way whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:51:50 In fact, she seems to believe in his innocence as well. Here's the title of the piece. quote, inside Jesse Smollett's darkest day in how they alleged 2019 hoax tested my strength. I was numb. Note how the word alleged is being used here, even though he was convicted in a court of law and found guilty of staging a hoax. Proper journalistic practice is to drop the alleged qualifier once a person is found guilty of the charge. But if this person was a proper journalist, then Smolett would not be talking to her. So reading on, Jesse Smollett, doesn't care what anyone thinks. In his eyes, only the universe can write his wrongs.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Still, the road to finding inner peace was one of the hardest things he's ever faced. He's learned how to hold on for five more minutes amid the chaos of the last five years. A close personal mantra, he now holds dear to his heart. Yes, this is really happening. They are doing a hagiographic puff piece on a convicted hate crime hoaxer, a puff piece that descends into incomprehensible nonsense by the second sentence. Only the universe can write his wrongs. I mean, what is that even supposed to mean? Is the universe writing the wrongs he committed or the wrongs that are supposedly committed against him?
Starting point is 00:53:06 And how will the universe do that if the wrong that was committed against him was also committed by him? It seems like there's not much for the universe to do in this situation. If I'm the universe, I'm going to look at that and say, well, I mean, that basically worked itself out. So it's not clear what any of this means, but let's continue anyway. An exclusive sit-down with people since the 2019 incident, Smollett 42, joins the Zoom conversation, ready as I'll ever be from his hotel room in New York City. Five years ago, Smolett, who identifies as a gay black man, claimed that on January 29, 2019, while on his way home from a subway sandwich shop, he was attacked by two men late at night,
Starting point is 00:53:44 yelling racist and homophobic slurs, putting a rope around his neck and dousing him with bleach. After an investigation conducted by law enforcement, prosecutors alleged that Smoletka, Smolet staged the attack to get media attention and paid $3,500 to two brothers, Abimbollah alibinjo, and then whatever the guy's name is, despite the narrative, he says, so many have assumed Smollett maintains his innocence to this day. Now, again, just to interject, it's not a narrative or allegation. He was proven guilty in a court of law of committing a hoax. Although he was, of course, quite obviously guilty even before the verdict,
Starting point is 00:54:20 So you didn't really need that in order to be able to say conclusively that he was guilty. But People Magazine will not let any of that get in the way of Jossie continuing to victimize himself. Quote, I was numb, he says. We're calling the incident to people. I didn't know how to connect the dots. I really genuinely didn't know. I couldn't make sense of what was going on. And I couldn't make sense of what people were actually thinking.
Starting point is 00:54:42 What exactly do they think happened? I couldn't put two and two together. Yes, he was confused. He couldn't put two and two together. Couldn't connect the dots. It was bewildering. He paid two guys to pretend to beat him up. And then those guys that he paid to do that thing went ahead and did that thing that he paid them to do.
Starting point is 00:55:04 So the thing that he was doing to himself was done. But it's a mystery. It's bizarre. How did it happen? Aside from the fact that it happened because he deliberately set it all up and made it happen. but still how? How is it? He's confused.
Starting point is 00:55:23 It's like if I'm walking down the street and I'm looking at my own legs and saying, how am I moving across? I don't understand. How is this happening? How I started there and I'm heading there and I don't, what is happening right now? How am I getting that? I mean, I am actually bringing myself there, but how is it happening? It's very confusing. It's very existential.
Starting point is 00:55:45 But the good news is that Jesse is very. very resilient, continuing, quote. Smolett says that he has since put in years of self-reflection and healing, calling it difficult. In fact, he says, we're still dealing with the repercussions from that narrative. We're still dealing with that every day. At the same time, it's not in my mental. It's not in my soul. It's not in my spirit, says Smolet, who TMZ reported entered an outpatient rehab facility in 2023. People can say what they want about you, but they have no control. They can do whatever they want. They can even put you behind bars. They can control your physical, but they can't control my mind.
Starting point is 00:56:18 They can't control my spirit. They can't control my soul. They can't control the knowledge that I have of who I am. Now, the article goes on like that for many paragraphs. I'm not going to subject you to any more of it. But I do have to read this one line, one more line, a couple of lines, because it's just, you know, it's just great. Continuing, quote,
Starting point is 00:56:40 I'm not going to sit here and victimize myself and be like, woe is me, because the, there's so many people that don't have the platform or resources that I have to protect themselves. Smolett says, saying that people often admit to crimes they didn't commit because they feel it's the easier way out. Yes, Jussie Smollett said he's not going to victimize himself. Now, the irony is glaring enough that I don't need to point it out, even though I guess I just did. Ultimately, though, I think that this interview, if you read the whole thing, which I did for some reason, proves, it proves, number one, that the media are shameless,
Starting point is 00:57:18 just shameless to a degree never witnessed before in human history. But we already knew that. It also proves that Jesse Smollett is a pathological liar who lies so compulsively that he probably doesn't even recognize when he's lying anymore. I mean, he might actually believe at this point that it really happened. He might have convinced himself of it at this point.
Starting point is 00:57:40 But we already knew that also. I think most of all it shows that it shows what a person becomes when their whole identity is tied up in victimhood. Like Jesse Smollett committed the hoax in the first place because he was desperate to be a victim. Now he's a national disgrace and a punchline, but he clings to his faux victimhood anyway. Because he doesn't know what else to do. He has no identity outside of his perception of himself as a victim. It is pitiful to watch and grotesque.
Starting point is 00:58:16 But also, we have to admit, very funny. And that is why Jesse Smollett and the woman who wrote this fawning article about him are both today canceled. That I'll do it for the show today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day. Godspeed. Republicans are Nazis. You cannot separate yourselves from the bad white people. Growing up, I never thought much about race. Never really seemed to matter that much. At least not to me. I would really appreciate it if you love. I'm trying to learn. I'm on this journey.
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