The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 16 - Feminists Hate Men But They Also Want To Be Men
Episode Date: April 24, 2018It's not exactly true to say that feminists hate masculinity. Actually, they are jealous of masculinity and want nothing more than to be masculine themselves. What they hate most of all, in the end, i...s femininity. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello, everybody. As you can see a different studio today. This is our other car, or the big car, as our kids call it. Or as my wife, my wife says that it's her car because it has all the car seats in it. And so she's the one driving it around for most of the day. But I strenuously object to that description of it. Anyway, over the course of this past weekend, some controversy erupted. And you know it's a big deal.
when there's controversy.
I mean, in our society,
if there's controversy,
you know something serious has happened
because it's controversy is so rare these days, right?
It's like there's hardly ever anything
that people are outraged about.
So if they're getting outraged,
you know that it can't be frivolous, right?
So in this case, the outrage,
the anger, the hurt, the heartbreak, the sadness
was directed at former NFL kicker Jay Feeley
and you see Jay Feely posted a photo on Twitter.
This is a former NFL kicker who posted a photo on Twitter.
So we know, as I said, we know it's serious business.
And the photo depicted him posing with his daughter and her prom date.
And Feely has his arm around his daughter kind of protective,
in this sort of protective way.
And then his other hand is holding a gun.
A gun.
A shooty thing.
a shooty, shooty, dangerous thing.
And so this is a classic dad joke.
I mean, this is, it's even cliche.
And it's a dad joke that 10 years ago,
nobody would have noticed or really cared,
maybe a few people would have laughed.
Most people would have rolled their eyes
because that, as I dad, I know that that's the,
really the appropriate response to a dad joke
is just to roll your eyes and move on.
But this is not 10 years ago.
This is 2018.
And so in 2018,
the photo went viral.
with thousands of people expressing their righteous indignation at this terrible, awful, offensive
photo. Now, before I go any further, I need to stipulate that when I talk about, when I say
people were outraged and they were angry, just keep in mind that there are, really, there are quotes
around that. There are sarcastic air quotes around outrage and anger. Because as I've said before,
the main thing about the collective outrage that goes on is that there's very little,
authentic outrage in it. I mean, I don't think anyone really actually cared that much about what Jay
Feely posted. Most of the things, when we get this huge outrage, everyone's so angry, most of the
people who are outraged and angry, they are not really outraged or angry. What they're doing is they're
just seizing on this opportunity to make a point and to destroy somebody. And we know that that's not,
that's been going on since the dawn of time.
What makes it different now is it used to be, you know,
if you were a politician or a political figure of some kind
and you said anything at all,
then, yeah, you're going to have people from the other side
who try to take your words and use it against you
to try to win, right?
And I think it used to mainly be reserved for people like that,
people who are in controversial jobs
or jobs that inherently involved controversy.
But now what we find is that,
anybody at all. It's just any old average person. It doesn't matter what you do for a living.
Doesn't matter who you are. It doesn't matter what side you fall on. It doesn't matter if you're
completely apolitical. Anything, just, just anyone at all, if you put something out there publicly,
people will seize on it and try to destroy you to the point where even an NFL kicker,
he's just a retired NFL kicker. I mean, even if what he did was terribly, you know, even if that
photo really was legitimately awful, which of course it isn't. But even if it was, who cares?
It's just an NFL kicker. What does it matter? I mean, why would anyone care what he posts?
Just let him be. Just let it, just whatever. So he's got to, who cares? There's what,
what are you hoping to win or accomplished by taking this and making a thing out of it?
So the anger is, uh, is, is not really authentic, but be that as it may. We will deal with
it anyway. So this fake anger seems to be based on two.
things. One, they say that he's making light of gun violence. And it's dangerous to have a gun
out like that, they said. Because I saw a lot of people say, if that was my son, I would be so,
I would, I would be so angry that he put him in harm's way with that gun because these people think
that a gun through some mysterious gravitational force could actually load itself and then point
itself and pull its own trigger. That's what they think could happen. But in reality, the gun
did not pose a threat to anybody because it wasn't loaded and he had it pointed down and he didn't
even have his finger on the trigger. So really, that gun posed as much of a threat to the people
in that photograph as there would have been a threat if he was holding like a pancake or something.
It just posed zero threat whatsoever. But the other source of outrage is,
the one that I want to focus on.
Plenty of feminists were scandalized or pretended to be scandalized
because, as they put it,
Feeley was treating his daughter as property.
And how dare he?
Just as one example, feminist Lauren Duka or Dusa,
I don't know how to pronounce a name,
but she's got a lot of Twitter followers.
And which means she's important, by the way.
So she said that the photo was a violent reminder
that Feeley considers his daughter.
to be his property. Now, first of all, Jay Feely did, well, he didn't quite apologize,
but he did post something clarifying the tweet and explaining it, which I wish he hadn't even
done that much because it required no explanation and it required no clarification. And anybody
who was offended by it, their feelings do not matter at all in this case. But I understand why
he did because, like I said, he's just, he's not a political figure. He's not, he's not like
or even someone like me where I know that everything I say,
there are going to be people who try to take it and,
and I'm going to get hate mail and everything.
So I know that.
I know that's what I do for a living,
so I understand that.
But Jay Feeley,
that's not what he's,
he wasn't,
that's not what he's looking for.
He just thought he was posting a funny picture.
It turned into a whole thing.
So he's like, fine,
I'll just post something clarifying.
And what he said was,
um,
the prom picture I posted was obviously intended to be a joke.
My daughter has dated her boyfriend for over a year and they knew I was
joking. I take gun safety seriously. The gun was not loaded and had no clip in it and I did not intend
to be sensitive, to be insensitive to that important issue. So this is where we are now as a society
where a guy has to explain that a picture of himself holding a gun in a prom picture with his
daughter and her boyfriend is a joke. He has to explain that to all of these people that again
already know. They know that he's joking, which is the main reason why I think there shouldn't be an
explanation. But putting all that aside, I think what we really see here, more than an attack on
guns, we see an attack on the role of fathers because it's a father's job to protect and defend his
family. And he ought to be protective of his daughter. He ought to be protective of her
dignity and protective of her of her innocence. Obviously, Philly's photo was a deliberately
cartoonish, exaggerated, humorous depiction of that role. It wasn't supposed to be
serious, but what we see is that feminists are mad, or pretending to be mad, about the role itself.
They hate the idea that a man would protect his family, especially that he would protect his
daughter. They hate that idea. So this again goes back to the piece that I wrote a few weeks ago
about the challenges that men face in this culture where a man really can't win, because a man
who is not there for his family, a man who does not protect his family, does not defend his
family, a man who has no problem with his daughter, shacking up with any old scumbag.
That sort of man is still rightfully derided and shamed in our culture, but a man who does
the opposite, the opposite sort of man, is also derided and shamed in our culture.
So again, men are left saying, well, what do you want me to do?
What exactly am I?
How am I supposed to be?
What would make you people happy?
Now, I don't ask that because I don't care what makes anyone happy.
But a man who is concerned with how society views him is going to be very very, very, very much.
very confused because no matter, literally no matter what he does, he's going to hear it.
And I'm not just drawing all of this from this one reaction to this picture.
I'm drawing it from society in general, but there are also plenty of other examples.
For instance, just look at, if you really want to get a headache, okay, if you feel like having
a migraine, here's what I recommend, go on Google and type in father-daughter dance.
And then just see all the blog posts that pop up talking about how problematic and weird and creepy and old-fashioned and patriarchal these father-daughter dances are.
Because this is a good example of how the role of the dad has become this, has become this evil, creepy thing.
Here's a bit from an article on romper.com titled Father-daughter dances are anything but innocent.
We just read you a couple, a few sentences.
The writer says, these aren't sweet, they aren't cute, they're creepy, and they seek to enforce
patriarchal notions of femininity.
These little girls who are taken out on dates by their fathers are taught that men should
do everything for them.
Men open the door, men pull out the chair, men buy everything.
It's incumbent on the man to ask questions and draw her out.
This is 2017, and newsflash, women don't need men to do things for them.
We don't need some big, bad patriarchal figure to hold the door or compliment our inner beauty.
We deserve men who are equal partners who share life's journey with us and who treat us as equals.
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Now, I mean, just imagine, okay, imagine being the sort of person who hears about
a man taking his little girl out on the father-daughter dance. And the first thing they think is
implicit power dynamic. Or imagine being the sort of person who sees this, you know, funny,
nice, cliched photo of Jay Feeley and sees it as some kind of patriarchal conspiracy and that
he thinks he owns his daughter like a slave. I mean, this is what I, you know, I, I honest,
I pity. I really have a lot of pity for the, you know, you know, I honestly, I pity for the, you
people for feminists and all these people in our culture because they live in such a miserable
world. I can't imagine living in the world that they think we live in. I can't imagine having
that mindset. So the question is why? Why are so many people so hostile to the idea of a man being
a figure of protection or security or authority in the home?
And I think there are two reasons.
The first reason is pretty simple.
We have to remember that many feminists are feminists because they had no father in the home.
At least they didn't have a good father.
That's not the case for all of them, of course.
It's theoretically possible that a good father could produce a feminist.
Very unlikely.
Probably if your daughter ends up being a radical feminist,
it means that you as a dad screwed up big time, most likely.
But I'm saying it's theoretically possible you get have a good father because people, you know, human beings make their own choices.
And even a woman who's raised right could end up unfortunately going down the path of feminism.
So most of them had one way or another absent fathers.
And there's this certain kind of childish self-centeredness that's really common in our society where people insist on spreading around their misery.
And they came from broken homes.
so they must attack and hate homes that are not broken.
It's envy.
And it even goes a little bit beyond envy, actually,
because a really envious person knows that he doesn't have something,
and so he covets the people who do have it.
But here, though, what we see so often in our society
are people who don't have a certain good thing,
in this case an intact family.
And so they insist that the thing must have.
not be good. So rather than trying to have what other people have, they say, well, nobody should
have it. But second, the reason why people, especially feminists, lash out at men who protect and
provide, is really this. And I've said it before. Feminists, they don't really hate masculinity.
I think we have it wrong. We don't really understand the motivations behind modern feminism.
And I say it myself, just kind of for the sake of argument or just sort of laziness,
I'll say, well, feminists hate masculinity.
Because in a sense they do.
But I think even deeper than that, they actually idolize masculinity.
So it's more accurate to say they hate men who are masculine because they themselves want to be masculine.
It's masculinity itself is what they idolize.
They want to be that.
So they say, well, we don't need no man to protect us.
This is 2018.
We don't need that because they have idolized the ability to protect.
They have taken this and decided that, well, this is everyone should have that ability.
They want it for themselves.
The kind of physical masculine strength that a man has, they want it.
They hate it when men show it because they want it.
They have idolized it.
They have decided that masculinity is really the height of existence.
And that's why you get all these silly movies with the kickbutt female action heroes
or go around beating up men and everything.
And it's just, again, it's kind of this silly childish thing that feminists do where they say,
well, men have all the action heroes.
Now we want some.
Well, one of the reasons why typically men are the action heroes in movies
is because men are the action heroes in real life.
And you're simply not going to get a woman who's running around just hand-to-hand combat,
beating up a bunch of strong, beefy men.
That's just, that's not going to happen in real life.
And yeah, it is a movie so fictional things can happen.
But generally, you want a movie, even an action movie,
to be grounded in some sense in reality.
So that's why typically you don't have as many movies like that.
but feminists covet the strength of men.
They covet masculinity itself and they want to have it.
Or to use the common phrase now, they want to appropriate it.
Which is why if a woman had taken that exact same photo that Jay Feely took,
holding the gun and everything, feminists would have celebrated it.
They would have said it was the greatest thing ever.
Because they don't hate toxic masculinity.
They just hate that men are so much better at being masculine.
And they think they're in a competition with men.
Really, in the end, we should stop saying that feminists hate masculinity.
What they really hate is femininity.
That's what they hate.
They hate themselves.
They don't want to be themselves.
They want to be men.
and so they hate men who are men
because they see it as some kind of personal attack on them.
So that's what lies underneath all this controversy,
which, as I said, it's not even a real controversy,
so maybe I didn't even need to spend 20 minutes explaining it.
But I just did, so hope you enjoyed it.
I'll talk to you tomorrow.
Have a great day, everybody.
