The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1608 - LGBT Activists Have Found Their Next Hate Crime Hoax And It’s The Most Insane One Yet

Episode Date: June 4, 2025

Today on the Matt Walsh Show, we’ve known for a long time that LGBT activists have a persecution fantasy. That’s why they’ve come up with so many hate crime hoaxes over the years. This week, the...y came up with another one, and it’s one of the most absurd we’ve seen in a long time. Also, you may recall the Wi Spa case, where a male sex offender went into the women’s locker room, claiming to be a “trans woman.” He was charged with indecent exposure; now, we finally have a jury verdict in the case. The trial was in Los Angeles, so you can guess how that went. Plus, a federal judge declares that Trump must continue providing taxpayer-funded gender transition procedures to convicted criminals in prison.   Click here to join the member-exclusive portion of my show: https://bit.ly/4bEQDy6   Ep.1608   - - -   DailyWire+:   Save 40% on DailyWire+ Gift Memberships for Father's Day with code DAD40 at https://dailywire.com/gift   Check out Jordan B. Peterson’s new show, Parenting, exclusively ON DailyWire+: https://bit.ly/4moWlu0   Get your Matt Walsh flannel here: https://bit.ly/3EbNwyj   - - -   Today's Sponsors:   Everyday Dose - Get 45% off your first subscription order of 30 servings of Coffee+ or Bold+ and you’ll also receive a starter kit with over $100 in free gifts by going to https://everydaydose.com/WALSH or entering WALSH at checkout. You’ll also get FREE gifts throughout the year!   Hillsdale College - Go to https://hillsdale.edu/walsh to start learning from over 40 free online courses today!   Jeremy's Razors - LAST CHANCE - Save up to 47% with Jeremy's Razors Father's Day Sale: https://jeremysrazors.com/fathersday   Tax Network USA - For a complimentary consultation, call today at 1 (800) 958-1000 or visit their website at https://TNUSA.com/WALSH   - - -   Socials:    Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3Rv1VeF   Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3KZC3oA   Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3eBKjiA   Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RQp4rs   - - -   Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:31 claiming to be a quote-unquote trans woman. He was charged with a decent exposure. Well, we now finally have a jury verdict in that case. The trial was in Los Angeles, so you can guess how that went. Plus, a federal judge declares that Trump must continue providing taxpayer-funded gender transition procedures to convicted criminals in prison. We'll talk about all that and more today on the Matt Wall show. You can't put a price on truth, but you can put a price on where you get it.
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Starting point is 00:03:45 year. That's Everydaydose.com slash Walsh for 45% off your first order. In pretty much every case, pathological liars feel trapped. When they realize they've lost all their credibility and their power, they don't suddenly decide to become honest people. Instead, they simply continue lying. I mean, think of Elizabeth Holmes after the collapse of Theranos, one of the most obvious clear-cut cases of fraud imaginable. From prison, Holmes has refused to take any responsibility, even though she orchestrated the entire fraud. She still claimed she's a victim. There are about a million other examples from Jussie Smollett to Bernie Madoff. The only way forward, in the liar's mind, is to come up with even bigger loss. And that's all they really know how to do. The more desperate they become, the more trapped they feel, the more obvious their frauds become as a result. At the moment, as a particularly depressing and financially insolvent Pride Month continues to trudge along, there is no greater illustration of this phenomenon than the so-called LGBT movement. These activists understand that they've been discredited, all of their narratives about alleged hate crimes from Matthew Shepard onward have collapsed under the slightest scrutiny.
Starting point is 00:04:53 All of their claims about not having equal rights and just wanting to live their own lives without bothering anybody have fallen apart as well. And that's why Pride Month ultimately is dying. And in response, rather than engage in any introspection, LGBT activists have particularly decided to push yet another lie. And this one, even by their standards, is truly staggering, not just because it's so grotesque and evil, but also because there are precisely zero sane. people that would possibly be convinced by it. I'm talking about the decision by LGBT activists to push a bizarre and obviously false narrative about the recent death of a 59-year-old actor named Jonathan Joss, who was well known for voicing the role of John Redcorn in The King of the Hill Show. He also appeared on Parks and Recreation. And according to activists, as well as several other
Starting point is 00:05:47 media outlets, Joss was just a few days ago executed. in front of his home by a homophobic bigot who had been tormenting him for a very long time in various ways, all leading up to his eventual execution in this homophobic hate crime. And as proof of these extraordinary claims, the activist point to the following statement, which was posted on Facebook by somebody identifying as Jonathan Joss's husband. And here's the relevant part of it. And as you listen to this, imagine you're a detective arriving at the scene of this homicide, trying to figure out who's telling the truth, and then imagine that this is what an alleged witness tells you. So I'm going to read it now.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Quote, my husband Jonathan Joss and I were involved in a shooting while checking the mail at the site of our former home. The home was burned down after over two years of threats from people in the area who repeatedly told us that they would set it on fire. We reported these threats to law enforcement multiple times and nothing was done. Throughout that time, we were harassed regularly by individuals who made it clear that they did not accept our relationship. Much of the harassment was openly homophobic. When we returned to the site to check our mail, we discovered the skull of one of our dogs and its harness placed in clear view. This caused both of us severe emotional distress. We began yelling and crying in response to the pain of what we saw.
Starting point is 00:07:17 While we were doing this, a man approached us. He started yelling violent homophobic slurs at us. He then raised a gun from his lap and fired. Jonathan and I had no weapons. We were not threatening anyone. We were grieving. We were standing side by side. When the man fired, Jonathan pushed me out of the way.
Starting point is 00:07:34 He saved my life. Jonathan is my husband. He was murdered by someone who could not stand the sight of two men loving each other. Close quote. That's the story. Now, having read that out loud, even if you know nothing about, this case at all, you can immediately see the problem. And it's a pretty big one. None of it makes any sense. It's incoherent. It's the kind of thing that somebody would write if they've lost their
Starting point is 00:08:03 mind. If you live in reality, you know that gay men living in San Antonio are not going to be stalked for years by roving gangs of homophobes who taunt them with the skulls of their dead pets and then light their home on fire and then shoot them. Okay, it's not. It's not a lot of them. I don't know. the kind of thing that happens outside of the fevered imaginations of very delusional activists. It reads like a screenplay that was written by a demiqueer NYU student who also happens to be high on meth or something. At no point, should anyone have even pretended to take this statement seriously for any reason? It discredits itself. It makes no sense. So we know that the man was killed, but there is no reason why we would take that statement at face value to explain
Starting point is 00:08:52 how exactly he was killed and why. But a lot of people did present this statement as incoherent as it clearly is as a serious, believable account by a firsthand witness. It's not just believable, but according to LGBT activists, it's absolutely unassailable. It's bulletproof evidence that this is exactly what happened. And the media treated it. that way too. In the UK, the independent ran this headline, quote, King of the Hill actor Jonathan Joss was killed in a homophobic hate crime after years of threats, husband says. So they're leading with the statement from this alleged husband without pushing back in any way. Outlets like Variety and MSNBC did the same thing. So did some very popular accounts on social media. The account
Starting point is 00:09:36 discussing film, which has more than two million followers, wrote, quote, Jonathan Joss, the voice of John Redcourt and King of the Hill has sadly passed away at the age of 59. after being shot in a homophobic attack. So they're not even clear. They're not even qualifying it as husband says. They're just saying it was a homophobic attack. The pop culture site, Tune Hive, posted this report, which has more than 14 million views.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Quote, King of the Hill voice actor Jonathan Joss was murdered in a homophobic hate crime. His husband confirms. Here's another post with 5 million views. They burned on his house, killed him, and his husband's dog, showed them the dead dog's skulls, called them homophobic slur, and then shot them. And there were thousands more posts like this all over the internet, from X to Reddit to Facebook, to Instagram, and everywhere else.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Here's another post with hundreds of thousands of views. This is why the LGBTQ plus movement is necessary. This is why Pride Month is necessary. People shouldn't fear stepping outside to check their mail just for loving somebody of the same sex. If you think otherwise, go F yourself. So the LGBT community is unanimous. This was a homophobic hate crime. A gay man was executed in cold blood, in broad daylight, simply for being gay.
Starting point is 00:10:54 But if you look a little more closely at this situation, as in if you spend like five seconds looking into it, you'll immediately find a few very fundamental problems with these claims. First of all, to begin with, here is a picture of Jonathan's alleged, quote-unquote, husband. and you could see it here, the quote-unquote husband is on the left. Now, admittedly, like Cantonji Brown Jackson, I'm no biologist. But that looks a lot like a woman who is claiming to be a man. And indeed, this particular woman has a trans flag on her Facebook profile. In other words, there's no husband involved here.
Starting point is 00:11:38 And as much as we all recognize that definitions and facts aren't really important to the LGBT movement, it seems like a big issue for their narrative that this was a homophobic attack. And given that little detail, you might be wondering, well, who exactly is this woman? How credible is her story exactly? Well, she married Joss just a few months ago on Valentine's Day of this year. They hadn't known each other very long before that. And now this woman is claiming to know that for years, Joss has been tormented by neighbors who supposedly torched their home. But the opposite is true. I mean, she's completely inverting reality.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Here's a report from a local news station just a few months ago, shortly after the house fire, quote, Joss said he left the house to go eat earlier on Thursday and thought he had turned everything off. He said he had been using a propane heater in the home for warmth. Mistakes happen, man, and it's my fault for, I guess, leaving something on, Joss said. Or if somebody came in and did something, who knows, close quote. Well, that's a helpful bit of context that was strangely missing. from the post that Joss's alleged quote-unquote husband wrote on Facebook. She suggests that homophobes burn the house down.
Starting point is 00:12:50 But she leaves out the fact that Joss admitted that he'd been using a propane heater for warmth and also admitted that he had probably made a mistake because he might have left it on. And she also leaves out the fact that the local utility company had cut the power to the house and that it was slated for demolition. More on that later. In any event, essentially he's acknowledging that, yes, he burned his own house down. That's not all the information that Joss's alleged husband left out. Watch.
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Starting point is 00:13:48 This house was built by my dad in 1957 for my mom. This was no role but real life heartbreak for actor Jonathan Joss when his family home on Dorsey Street burned down in January. On Sunday, neighbors say he was back on the now empty lot, checking on the Southside property when he got into a deadly confrontation. In the neighborhood, people say Joss made his presence known and not always in a good way. We would see him down the street, yelling, ranting or raving,
Starting point is 00:14:16 sometimes walking up and down the street. Neighbors say Joss took the whole private property concept very seriously. Even after his house it burned down, they say he fiercely protected not only what was behind this fence, but well beyond it. And just different things he'll argue with different people. Maybe somebody would drive by his home. He didn't like people driving in front of his home.
Starting point is 00:14:35 One neighbor says she saw similar behavior from Joss Sunday, although it's still unclear exactly how that led to him being shot. So according to the neighbors, Joss would scream at passing cars. He would regularly harass innocent people in the community. He would act, in other words, a lot like an unstable drug addict with mental health issues. Right? That's how he would act. And that's just the beginning. Here's the report from the local station WFAA, which has more details from the day that Joss died.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Quote, neighbor said that Joss was at the site Sunday night checking his mail. which he did regularly, when something went terribly wrong. A video shared by a neighbor who was present shows a man who they identified as Joss, pacing up and down the street with a pitchfork and screaming. The neighbors say that it was common behavior over the years for Joss to scream while carrying weapons. And even though they say they didn't like it, several neighbors said they were surprised when a man who lives just 50 yards away responded to the situation with a gun around 6 p.m. on Sunday, close quote.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Now, before I read the rest of this paragraph, it's worth repeating this line. the neighbors say it was common behavior over the years for Joss to scream while carrying weapons. And on the night he was killed, Joss was pacing up and down with a pitchfork and screaming. Again, none of this made it into the husband's, quote unquote, account of events. Instead, we're supposed to believe that Joss was just minding his own business, checking the mail, when somebody shot him for no reason other than the fact that he's gay, even though he's in a relationship with a woman. Now, if that sounds a little hard to believe, it gets even worse. Let's continue reading from the local news report, quote,
Starting point is 00:16:09 many neighbors said that Joss and Alvarez had a long history of trouble. They say both men had been showing weapons and trading threats for years. The feud took many forms. Weapons, everything, gun, shootings at all times of night, one neighbor said. Adding the men didn't shoot at each other. No, just shooting rounds at their own property and stuff. You could just hear the multiple rounds just blowing off on both ends, both ends, and he would be yelling a lot, close quote.
Starting point is 00:16:34 So there was just some casual gunfire. on both sides of dispute. It was a regular thing, apparently, and it was a conflict that Joss was obviously participating in actively. According to various news reports, police had been called to the Joss residents more than 60 times so far this year alone, for a variety of reasons, from welfare checks to reports of shootings and fires. The calls reported that Joss had been carrying crossbows and pointing them at people, which led police to confiscate the weapon last summer. Also, it's emerged that neither Joss nor his alleged, quote, unquote, husband actually owned the home that burned down. In fact, the property was slated for demolition before it mysteriously burned down.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Quoting from Fox San Antonio, quote, city officials saying that the home Joss and his, quote, unquote, husband had lived in was slated for demolition well before the fire in January of 2025. According to the city, according records from the city of San Antonio's dangerous assessment response team indicated that neither Joss nor his husband owned the property, according to the city officials, after several reports of theft and mental health concerns, the DART team got involved. After inspecting the property, the building was brought before the Building Standards Board, which ordered it demolished. DART then gave the couple of notice to vacate. The homeowner consented to the demolition of the home, and services were disconnected from the property in October of
Starting point is 00:17:51 2024. Officials say the home then sat on a list of homes to be demolished before a fire on January 23rd destroyed most of the structure, killing at least one dog in the blaze, close quote. So the home was going to be demolished because of the state that it was in. And then after that, mysteriously, it burns down. Again, these are not facts that suggest that Joss and his quote-unquote husband were living the most stable life or that they were being tormented by random mysterious homophobes. it looks a lot like they were very unstable people. And then there's this Facebook post from a different neighbor describing her experiences with Joss.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Quote, I lived across this man for years. He started gunfights constantly, and he burnt his own house down trying to make a meth lab inside. He constantly threatened his surrounding neighbors and played victim when cops came. He used to throw bricks through my window and tore several of our mailboxes down. And no one on that block ever yelled homophobic slurs at him. it's a lie from his, quote, husband for sympathy, close quote. Now, these multiple independent accounts are believable in part because of Joss's public behavior. In fact, just two days before his death, Joss crashed an event for the King of the Hill revival at the Paramount Theater in Austin, and he had to be escorted out by security.
Starting point is 00:19:16 According to People magazine, quote, while the panel was in full swing, Joss stood up and approached the microphone, set up for the Q&A portion of the event, which had not begun yet. The Onlooker says that security guards came out at this time. The eyewitnesses says that audience members laughed nervously in the crowd, and that King of Hill co-creators Mike Judge and Greg Daniels didn't seem alarmed while others appeared a bit worried or uncomfortable. So here's part of that footage of what took place. It was shot by an attendee using the name Brandon Brokenheart on Facebook. Watch.
Starting point is 00:19:45 He said the mic wasn't going to be used. And I'm an actor. I see a mic. I use it. I see it wrong. I make it right. I take a breath. I want to breathe.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And no offense, sir. I'm not a super fan. I said, there's a hole in my fucking what my money should go. There's a hole. My house burned down three months ago because I'm gay. I've had a couple loves in my life. So he's obviously falling apart personally and professionally. He thought these people snubbed him by not inviting him onto the stage,
Starting point is 00:20:29 although you can kind of see why they didn't want him on stage. So he interrupts them while they're speaking. He shuts the whole event down. He veers between a joking demeanor and being dead serious as he rants incoherently about 10 different topics. For example, he says that his house was burned down because he's gay, which is completely different from what he said a few weeks ago when he acknowledged that he may have caused the fire himself.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And meanwhile, everybody in the room is nervously hoping that he's not going to become violent because he's acting like a schizophrenic. Two days later, what do you know? The neighbors say that he was acting like a drug addict, screaming at random people while carrying a pitchfork. And to be clear, I don't know exactly why he was shot. No one does at this point. We can't say whether Joss was threatening anyone
Starting point is 00:21:11 or whether the shooting was justified or not at this point. But the balance of the evidence overwhelmingly suggests that he was not minding his own business and checking the mail when out of nowhere he was executed for being in a gay relationship as the media and LGBT activists are claiming. There are about a million reasons why that claim is not convincing, starting with the fact that he wasn't even in a gay relationship, as well as the fact that he's repeatedly acted like a lunatic in public, and the fact that the source is a trans-identifying woman with every incentive to play the victim.
Starting point is 00:21:42 And indeed, San Antonio police, who have access to all the available evidence, have come to the same conclusion. Here's what they wrote, quote, SAPD homicide is currently investigating the murder of Mr. Jonathan Joss. Despite online claims of this being a hate crime, currently the investigation has found no evidence to indicate that Mr. Joss's murder was related to his sexual orientation. But because reality doesn't matter to these people, this statement hasn't convinced LGBT activists to stop claiming that Jonathan Joss was executed for being gay, nor have any of the other facts I just outlined. They still won't admit that Matthew Shepard was killed 30 years ago because of a meth deal gone bad, not because he was gay. In fact, one of Shepard's killers was a man that he'd allegedly occasionally had sex with himself, meaning that one of the killers was gay. Every single one of these hate crime hoaxes, going back 30 years, every single one of these hate crime claims,
Starting point is 00:22:31 going back 30 years has been a fraud. This is just the latest example of a trend that we've all seen for decades now. If anything's changing, it's that the hoaxes are becoming far more incoherent and lazy and unconvincing. You only see lies that are this transparent and desperate from people who are losing and who know they're losing. Desperate to find some justification for Pride Month and the LGBT movement in general, these pathological liars are deliberately attempting to exploit the very predicament, and tragic death of an unstable guy, all under the guise of compassion and social justice. It's a fraud. And that's no surprise because their entire movement is a fraud. And the more they
Starting point is 00:23:18 pretend otherwise, the more they pretend to care about Jonathan Joss and the more they pretend to be terrified of phantom homophobic gangs that randomly stalk and torment gay men in San Antonio, the more obvious it is, how truly powerless and pathetic these people have become. Now, let's get to our five headlines. Have you ever come across somebody saying that capitalism is evil or something similar? Maybe in a video online on TV or just talking with someone. What was your reaction if you did? When did capitalism become such a hot button issue anyway?
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Starting point is 00:25:17 at Wee Spa and exposed himself to several women, including minors. And that is what prompt did this viral video. We'll play just a clip of it just to jog your memory. But this one is back in 2021. So let's just play this again to remind ourselves. We spa. So you don't, so it's okay. I just want to be clear with you. It's okay. It's okay for a man to go into the women's section, show his penis around the other women, young little girls under age. Your spa, we spa, that. Is that what you're saying? Like I asked. It's so he could stay there. He could stay there. What sexual orientation? I see a, it lets me know he's a man. He's a man. He is a man. He is not no female. He is not a female. He is not a female. You remember that, I assume. We all remember
Starting point is 00:26:24 that man in the women's locker room. This is, again, a repeat sex offender, exposing himself to women and young girls, multiple witnesses all attesting to this. And so this man, Darren Adjee Marager, was eventually charged with indecent exposure. And now we have the update. This is the post-millennial. A trans-identifying male who was accused of exposing his generals to a little girl and several women at the female-only Korean Wii spa in Los Angeles in June 2021, has been acquitted. Darren Aggie Marager of 55 of Riverside was found not guilty of felony and decent exposure on Monday following a four-week jury trial to Los Angeles County Superior Court in California. Marjor is a Tier 1 registered sex offender with multiple felonies and several jail stints,
Starting point is 00:27:15 according to records. The jury came to their conclusion after less than an hour and half of deliberation, telling the court that prosecutors did not submit sufficient evidence, proving that Marajor exposing himself, exposed himself with the intent of sexual gratification. Marjor is a heterosexual male who identifies as transgender, and prosecutors could not prove that his penis was partially erect while sitting unclothed next to nude female patrons, which were claims made by several witnesses at the spa. Additionally, the jury foreman told Judge Joseph Berghardt that the spa let the defendant in, which assisted the jury in reaching its verdict, according to Los Angeles
Starting point is 00:27:53 Magazine. Okay, so let's review here. There is no dispute that this guy went into the women's locker room and disrobed. There's no dispute about that. There's no dispute that he is a guy. He's a male. There is no dispute that he's a registered sex offender. There's no dispute as far as I know, not that this should even matter, but
Starting point is 00:28:22 given all the above facts, but there's also no dispute that he's, that he's a heterosexual, meaning he's attracted to women. So, so this is a man disrobing in the women's locker room around a bunch of women and at least one girl, at least one minor, who are also in various states of undress. And yet the jury in Los Angeles comes back with a not-duty, a not-dress. guilty verdict because, and not to be graphic, but I mean, this is what they said, because they didn't see proof that he had an erection. That's, that's, that was their reasoning for, for letting him off the hook. Which, what kind of proof did they want? I mean, multiple witnesses saw that fact and reported it. Apparently that doesn't count as proof. Like, obviously there's
Starting point is 00:29:19 going to be security camera footage from inside the locker room. You would hope there isn't. So there's no way to prove it beyond the witness testimony. And also, why does that matter? How in the world does that matter? What does that? I mean, think about the precedent that's being set here. This is, I mean, this is one of the most outrageous jury verdicts I think I've ever heard. Not just because of the fact they're letting this guy off the hook, that's bad enough. The reason they're giving is what? And strangely enough, I've seen very few people talking about this case, even among conservatives. Now, a lot of people talked about it at the time, but this is kind of an important update. So what we're being told in the precedent that this
Starting point is 00:30:12 trial has set is that a sex offender can expose himself to children and it's not indecent exposure unless you can prove that he was visibly aroused. I mean, what the hell? What the hell kind of madness is that? What kind of, again, it's one of the craziest verdicts I've ever heard. And by the way, he's a registered sex offender because of multiple prior convictions for or indecent exposure. And those incidents stem all the way back from 2002, I believe. So this is, so this disgusting creep has been going around for 20 years exposing himself. And yet, in this case, when engaging in the exact same kind of behavior, it doesn't count as an
Starting point is 00:31:08 decent exposure because the jury didn't personally see, you know, that he was aroused. Like, am I now, am I shocked by this? Well, given that this is Los Angeles, no. And given that the, given the trans victim status that this sex offender was trying to use as a get out of jail free card, it's hard to be surprised. But, you know, but this kind of madness is exactly why the trans movement is falling apart. this is exactly it. I mean, people are just tired of this. And you have to be a lunatic to hear about this case,
Starting point is 00:31:55 hear that this guy was let off the hook, and the reason that he was let off the hook, and you have to be a lunatic to think that that was the right decision. I mean, you actually cannot be a sane person and agree with this. And this is why the movement's falling apart, because it's just not sustainable. All right, I wanted to play this. This is not exactly a headline,
Starting point is 00:32:21 but this is a, it's interesting to me because this is a clip that's been making the rounds on X over the last couple of days. And I don't know why exactly all of a sudden now people are talking about it, but it has 15 million views of the last day or two, even though it's from a show that went off air several years ago. So it's not new, but somebody just posted it.
Starting point is 00:32:42 And I don't even know the politics of the person who initially posted it or what point they thought they were making. But I can say this clip is from, I believe, the HBO show, yes, it is from the HBO show Girls, which is the Lena Dunham show from several years ago. And we do know that the creators of the show, including Lena Dunham, were definitely trying to make a certain point with this scene. and with the entire show. These were like raging far leftists and feminists. So we know where they stand on the issues. We know what point they were trying to make. Instead, in this clip, they made exactly the opposite point of what they were trying to say.
Starting point is 00:33:29 So in this scene, we see two characters who are dating, and the female character informs the male character that she just had an abortion. She aborted his baby. And now again, keep in mind, and there's another detail about this particular episode that I'll tell you on the other side of this clip that makes it even more interesting. But keep in mind, the writers and creators of the show expect us to sympathize with the woman in this exchange. That was the point. You're supposed to watch this and come away from it on the woman's side. So let's see how that turned out. Let's watch. I can't go for a run. I can't take a bath or use a tampon or have intercourse for like a week.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Are you, uh, what? Yeah, just a couple of things I can't do because I had an abortion yesterday. Was it mine? Yeah, of course it was yours. I didn't want to talk about it beforehand. I just wanted to do it. But I haven't shared with boyfriends in the past. I'm trying to be more open with you. So you're trying to be open with me.
Starting point is 00:34:54 How many abortions have you had? I'm not going to share that with you, because that is private. I'm not going to ask you how many girls you've gotten pregnant. None. It's not private. I've gotten no girls pregnant except for you now. Who fucking went with you? My friend's to Ellen Garth.
Starting point is 00:35:21 I don't even know her. You'll meet her. She's a somnambulist. Who did it? Who aborted you? A doctor named Gunita did the procedure? she delivered my cousin's baby. Was it a boy or girl?
Starting point is 00:35:35 My cousin's baby's a girl. No! Ours! It was a ball of cells. It was smaller than a seed pearl. It didn't have a penis or a vagina. Isn't this a decision that people typically make together?
Starting point is 00:35:49 So you wanted a baby? Maybe. That's kind of absurd. We've been together for less than seven weeks. I don't think that we're ready for a child. Crazier things have happened. People do crazy things. My parents got married after a fucking week.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Okay, so we should have the baby and put it in your toolbox as a cradle and feed it sardines and tell it that you don't know my middle name? It's Rose! No, my first name is Mimi Rose. My middle name is Eleanor. I don't understand how you could do something like that
Starting point is 00:36:17 without talking to me first. It's evil. You're right. You don't understand. Okay, so that's the scene. Now, again, this is Alina Dunham show. The intention was to make the woman look like the good guy and the man looked like some kind of unhinged narcissist, some sort of controlling, power-hungry man.
Starting point is 00:36:43 But instead, to any normal human, it comes off exactly the opposite way. Of course, we sympathize much more with the male character in this scene. He's the good guy in the scene, no matter what was intended by the people who wrote the script. And so there are a few interesting things here to talk about. First of all, again, the makers of the show intended for this to be pro-abortion propaganda.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And in fact, I went back and found an interview that the actress did with the Huffington Post when the episode first aired all the way back in 2015. And she said that Planned Parenthood consulted on the script for this episode. So Lena Dunham was literally working with Planned Parenthood to make Pro-Aboranthood. to make pro-abortion propaganda. And it was supposed to be a refreshing and realistic depiction of abortion. And it was. I mean, realistic. It was a realistic depiction, at least. You know, and coming from an organization, Planned Parenthood that, you know, that commits millions of abortions, and so they would know. And in the... this case, they were actually honest about it, though for all the wrong reasons. Now, I know that a
Starting point is 00:38:09 lot of people in the pro-life movement like to think of and talk about women who get abortions, like they're all these kind of scared, helpless, confused victims. But the fact of the matter is that a lot of them are exactly like this, exactly like the woman in this scenario. And that's a That's the harsh reality of the situation. This is very common. In fact, this exact scenario that we see in this show is very common. We never talk about it. We hardly ever hear anyone talk about it.
Starting point is 00:38:46 But the men who are victims of abortion are rarely acknowledged, but there's a lot of them. Men whose children are aborted against their will and without their knowledge. But it happens all the time. All the time. It's very common. And Planned Parenthood, who consulted on the script, admits it in this scene. That was the point of the scene. They were trying to show a realistic kind of like normal situation.
Starting point is 00:39:17 And they did. They succeeded. They succeeded way more than they ever hoped to. The fact is that a lot of women who get abortions are... callous and cold-blooded, totally unfeeling about it. They don't care that they're killing their child. Like they know it and don't care. Cold-blooded killers.
Starting point is 00:39:49 That's what we saw in that scene. The woman in that scene is just a cold-blooded, callous, murdering sociopath. death. And she does represent a certain not insignificant portion of the women who get abortions. That's like the unspoken truth. And we're not supposed to acknowledge that, but it's true. Now, you do also have women who are scared, who are exploited. You have women who are in some cases pressured into it by by the men in their lives. That's real. That happens.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Still doesn't excuse it, obviously. It's still murder. But you do have that. You know, you have women who, you have the opposite of this scenario. Not quite the opposite, but you have a scenario where the man is more eager for it than the woman. That is also true. No one's denying that. But those are the cases that we talk about.
Starting point is 00:40:53 all the time. I mean, that's, when we talk about abortion as pro-lifers, we tend to talk about it as though the latter kinds of cases are the only ones. We don't really talk about cases like the one you see depicted in that Planned Parenthood produced propaganda. And, you know, yeah, it's fiction, but once again, it's a fictional scenario crafted by abortion propagandists to reflect the sort of, quote unquote patients that plant parenthood sees every day. So this is a real thing. And, and, you know, especially, you know, you have a lot of pro-life activists who are worried about the optics, which to a certain extent when you're in a political movement, you have to be concerned with that. I mean, you're in, you're in the business of persuading people. And so,
Starting point is 00:41:51 yeah, part of what you're taken to account is, is the optics. of, you know, that's part of the, part of the, that's part of how it goes. But I think some pro-life activists are far too concerned about that. And so they won't talk about this fact publicly. But privately, I mean, you talk to anybody who works, any pro-life activists who works outside of an abortion clinic, sidewalk counselors, people like that. and they might not all say it publicly, but if you talk to them privately, they'll tell you that, yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 00:42:28 We run into those kinds of women all the time. That is very common. And it's chilling. It is bone chilling. Because it is like the guy says in the scene. It's evil. It's just pure evil. And that's what you're dealing with.
Starting point is 00:42:49 The other thing we learn here is that it is impossible actually to create pro-abortion propaganda. It's basically impossible to do. You can try, but any depiction of this practice or its aftermath is automatically horrifying no matter how you present it. I mean, think about it. There was no way to show this scene without it seeming like a moral outrage and a tragedy. There's no way to do it. And leftists and feminists and pro-abortion people in Hollywood have been trying for years to like figure out a way to solve this riddle, right? Figure out a way to portray abortion, you know, in a film, in a TV show where the abortion seems like trying to figure out a way to portray it in a favorable.
Starting point is 00:43:47 light. And they've been trying for years to do this. There have been dozens and dozens and dozens of attempts, and all of them fail. Because in every case, when you watch it as an audience member, it doesn't matter where you stand on the issue, you watch it and you're like, this is horrifying. This is terrible. This is, this is, this is, this is like a horror movie. Because, because that's what abortion is. It's a moral outrage and it's a tragedy. And it's a, it's a, it's a, It's a horror. So if they had made this... So again, like, think about their options.
Starting point is 00:44:25 If they wanted to make pro-abortion propaganda, they wanted to have a character who gets an abortion, but they frame it in a favorable light. Well, there are only a few ways to do it. They could have gone the opposite way. They could have made it a dramatic scene where the woman is crying about it and very distraught.
Starting point is 00:44:47 But they don't want to do that because then they're admitting that abortion is a tragedy, and it's a sad thing. They don't want to admit that, so they're not going to do that. They could have flipped the roles so that the guy was the one who was more insistent on the abortion. They could have done that. But then that would also be a moral outrage, and so they didn't want to portray it that way. And they also didn't want to portray it like they don't want to make it seem as though all the women who get abortions are victims. because if they do that, then they lose the whole female empowerment thing because they want abortion to be empowering.
Starting point is 00:45:22 They don't want it to just be this last resort that women in desperate straits are forced to resort to. So they can't do that. So they landed on, well, okay, let's have the woman do it and we'll treat it casually. We'll treat it like it's no big deal. You know, it's like to her, it's like she just got her wisdom teeth removed. And that's what they went with. And that turns out to be the most horrifying approach of all. Because there is no non-horrifying way to approach a horrifying thing.
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Starting point is 00:47:42 Go to jeremy'sraisers.com slash Father's Day right now. That's Jeremy'sraisers.com slash Father's Day. Tommy used a poor choice of words, but she isn't wrong. Too many men want to live as perpetual college kids. It's a fact. I agree with every complaint you've leveled against women, but you should criticize these man children for once. For once, Matt, come on.
Starting point is 00:48:02 It's a comment from Vanessa. Yeah, for once. For once, you want me to criticize immature men? For once? That's like saying you want me to, for once, take a stand against transgenderism. I was like saying you want me to for once speak out against people who ditch their shopping carts. I think I'm pretty well known for like going after man-child types.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I've done that many, many, many times. And here's the thing. I actually wish that I could continue to focus on criticizing men, given that I am a man myself. So I wish that my focus could remain there. But I could only do that if there were enough female commentators in the mainstream who were giving like tough talk to women and calling out women and criticizing them and criticizing their behavior and their laziness and their selfishness and their refusal to grow up and become adults. If there were enough females doing that, then I could say, well, like my voice isn't needed there. That's already being covered. You ladies handle the women.
Starting point is 00:49:15 I'll handle the men, and that's the way that I wish it could go. But the problem is, as we discussed, most mainstream female pundits, not all, but most of them don't really call women out. They don't give any tough talk to young women. They don't point out any of the stuff that I pointed out a couple of days ago when we were talking about when we did our Tommy Laren cancellation. they just they don't talk about it they refuse to talk about it and so if you won't talk about it then that forces other people to step in and do it for you and that's just the way it goes what really convinced me that abortion is wrong is having children of my own i realize that infants really aren't that advanced in terms of consciousness despite the claims of pro-abortion
Starting point is 00:50:08 activist that there's a huge difference between a baby in the womb and a newborn that doesn't make newborns less precious or less human, and once you realize that you instantly see the unmistakable humanity of babies in the womb at any stage of development. Yes, this is one of the most ludicrous things about the pro-abortion position. It shows how arbitrary the position is. Newborn babies are totally helpless. They're totally dependent. We can assume that they have some, you know, I think they clearly have some degree of conscious
Starting point is 00:50:36 experience, but it's not much more than what an unborn child has. they have little to know self-awareness. And, you know, that's why when you look at, when you see a newborn infant, right, and they're moving their limbs around and they kind of like stare at their own hand because they don't understand that they're, they don't have control over their limbs yet. They don't, they don't understand that that's their hand, like that concept. So, because they're newborns, which just. just speaks to a to a to a they are not totally self-aware really um and so what that means is that
Starting point is 00:51:20 whatever arguments justify abortion would also justify the abortion of infants because the arguments always come down to basically two things one of them is that unborn children are not conscious and the other one is that they are physically dependent on their mothers for survival where well, the issue, as you point out, is that a newborn baby, that's also true to basically the same degree for newborn babies. So if you justify one, it justifies the other, which tells you that there are no arguments to justify abortion. Matt's sense of humor always delivers by age 65 Matt will likely be an appallingly commudgingly man with a figure not unlike Orson Wells. Uh-huh. That's my goal.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I've told my wife this. I've told her. She knows. Like, I'm in reasonably good shape now, so just, but don't get used to it because the clock is ticking. In 25 years, I will have the physique of a toad. That's more to warning you right now. That's where all this is headed to me being a toad.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Okay? Next stop Toadville. That's where we're going. So we can't do anything about it. I mean, we could do something about it, but I'm not going to. Well, you still got a solid 20 to 25 years, so that's not bad. I say that you're my clone, Matt, but of all things I agree with you about, the anime thing has got to be the biggest. I have an unhealthy hatred for it, but let's face it, hating anime can only be healthy. So never mind that last part. You know, so this comment and a bunch of others referred to a comment yesterday from yet another anime fan recommending yet another anime that this person swore that I would like. And I actually did look it up. I didn't watch it, but I looked it up out of curiosity. And the one he recommended is called The Saga of Tanya the Evil was the one that was recommended yesterday in this very segment of the show. And I looked it up because despite what you guys might think, I actually am relatively open-minded.
Starting point is 00:53:37 And when people recommend stuff to me, when they say, oh, you'll like this show, you'll like this movie. I make a note of it. A lot of times I'll make like an actual note. And then when I'm home later, I'll look it up. And so when someone says to me, hey, you hate anime, but this will change your mind about the entire genre. I'm intrigued by that. And I say, okay, well, hey, look, I'm open to it. I'm actually open to it.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Believe it or not. So I looked it up. Let me just read the description of this anime from Wikipedia. This one that was just recommended to me. The saga of Tanya the Evil is a, let's see, the series focuses on a salary man whose reincarnation as the titular character living in an alternate version of World War I, leaves her to be trapped in an endless cycle of reincarnation. Willing to avoid being killed whilst dying of natural causes,
Starting point is 00:54:39 Tanya must take it upon herself to dawn a bloodthirsty sadist ego in hopes of joining the ranks of the empire's mage corps as part of her plan to become a seemingly indestructible foe. I'm sorry, this is one you thought I would like? So you saw an anime about what an adult man who reincarnates as an evil little girl in World War I who commits war crimes. And you thought to yourself, Matt Walsh would love this. This is right on Matt's alley. But okay, let's keep it open mind. Because I have the, I went to IMDB, and I have the trailer of the show, which I actually have not watched yet. But I found it on
Starting point is 00:55:26 IMDB. Haven't watched it. And let's, we have that queued up. Let's just watch this anime. Maybe this is, Maybe it's the one that will change my mind. Maybe it will. Existence was first confirmed several months ago by our own forces. We know practically nothing about her background. Our soldiers have a nickname for her, though. The devil of the ride. Believers, have faith in the Lord's blessings.
Starting point is 00:55:50 At the end of our hard fought battles. Paradise awaits. And one day we will reach the promise. Okay. I think I've seen enough of that. What? Do you understand? I would have to have gone actually insane
Starting point is 00:56:07 to sit down and watch that and enjoy it. I would have to smoke more meth than Glenn Greenwald to enjoy that show. So it's a what? It's a salesman who becomes an evil girl and then flies through the air and shoots a magical rifle at planes. And you think I would enjoy that? You might as well leave a comment saying, Hey, Matt, have you tried stabbing yourself in the face with a butcher knife and then pouring lemon juice directly into the open wound,
Starting point is 00:56:41 you would love it, give it a try. In fact, I would rather do that than watch this show. And it's like, no offense to anyone who likes it, but I would soon, you could sooner convince me to stab myself in the face than to watch that show. So what would my children think? Like, what would my kids think if they came into the room
Starting point is 00:57:02 and I was watching an anime cartoon about an evil schoolgirl flying around and shooting, flying around and shooting people, they would think that, you know, dad has finally lost his mind. That's what they would think. My wife would have me committed to an asylum. She would actually, there are no asylums open.
Starting point is 00:57:20 So she would lobby Congress to open an asylum. And then the next step would be to have me committed to it. And justifiably so. So anyway, I'll pass. I think I'll pass on that one, but thanks for the recommendation. tax day may have passed, but for millions of Americans, the real trouble is just beginning. If you miss the April 15th deadline or still owe back taxes, the IRS is ramping up enforcement. Every day you wait only makes things worse with over 5,000 new tax liens filed daily
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Starting point is 00:59:03 right now. Now let's get to our daily cancellation. As we've covered on this show extensively, the judiciary in this country is completely out of control for every executive action President Trump has tried to take. There has been some judge somewhere who has declared that somehow he has no right to take it. The judges have made it clear that the president, someone we once thought was the most powerful man in the world, actually has no power to do anything at all. According to an army of activist judges, the President of the United States has less power and less authority than the manager of your local Domino's pizza. In fact, if Trump tried to order a pepperoni pizza from Domino's,
Starting point is 00:59:44 a judge would issue an injunction and declare that Trump only has the authority to order cheese pizza. The question of whether he can have toppings on his pizza will need further deliberation by the courts. So that's the current state of affairs, and so it is no surprise to read this headline from Politico, quote, judge orders Trump admin to maintain gender-affirming care for transgender inmates. So not only is Trump not allowed to prevent self-identified trans inmates from receiving, quote, unquote, gender affirming care.
Starting point is 01:00:11 He is required to actively provide it. And let's read on. Quote, a federal judge has ordered the Trump administration to continue providing gender affirming care to hundreds of transgender prison inmates, ruling that an abrupt decision to curtail their medical care was not based on any reasoned analysis, as the law requires. U.S. District Court Judge Royce Lamberth previously ordered the Bureau of Prisons to continue to provide. medical care to several individual prisoners who are transgender, but as ruling Tuesday is the first that broadly blocks federal prison officials from carrying out an executive order from President Donald Trump targeting gender ideology. Trump's executive order requires the Bureau of Prisons
Starting point is 01:00:47 to cease providing any medical procedure, treatment, or drug for the purpose of conforming an inmate's appearance to that of the opposite sex. Lamberth's order requires that the Bureau of Prisons to resume providing hormone therapy and social accommodations such as gender-conforming undergarments and hair removal products that were available prior to Trump's executive order, Lamberth ruled that there was no evidence that the administration made any factual analysis before implementing Trump's directive. And the judge further explained, quote, neither the BOP nor the executive order provides any serious explanation as to why the treatment modalities covered by the executive order should be handled differently than any other mental health
Starting point is 01:01:25 intervention. Well, this is the same judge who ruled back in February that transidentified male prisoners could not be transferred back to male prisons where they obviously belong because somehow putting men in a men's prison would be a violation of their Eighth Amendment right to be free from cruel and unusual punishment. Never mind the fact that allowing men to be in a women's prison is not only cruel to the real women in the facility, but also the very definition of unusual. So it violates the Eighth Amendment to put the males in the women's prison not to transfer them back out of it. But this is the kind of basic reasoning that Judge Lambert is not capable of. And as for this latest ruling, Lambert says that the ban on gender transition
Starting point is 01:02:07 treatments for trans-identified prisoners was implemented without any factual analysis. And this, of course, makes no sense on a number of different levels. I mean, why would the judge assume that there was no factual analysis done? Obviously, there were some kind of analysis, which is how they arrived at the conclusion that no federal fund should be used to give inmates medical treatments meant to transition them into the opposite sex. There's as much evidence that the Trump administration, analyze the facts in making the order as there is that the judge analyzed the facts in reversing it. Just because you disagree with the analysis doesn't mean that there was no analysis. But the judge frames it this way because otherwise he would have to affirmatively explain why and how
Starting point is 01:02:50 male inmates have a God-given right to drugs and treatments provided by the taxpayer intended to turn them into women. or vice versa. The judge can't explain that, so instead he hides behind this lack of analysis dodge. Now, admittedly, the analysis conducted by the Trump administration on this question was likely very brief. In fact, it was an analysis that probably took them, you know, less than one second to complete. And that's because the analysis of whether male inmates should be given tax-funded treatments to turn them into females,
Starting point is 01:03:25 need only consist of answering one question. And the question is this. Can males, if given certain medicines or surgeries, actually become female? Any sane person with a five-year-old's understanding of human biology can answer immediately no. And that's all there is to the story. That's all the analysis that's needed. It's an analysis, a factual analysis, but it's an analysis as quick and easy as as analyzing the question of whether pigs can actually fly or whether, you know, Jack and the Beanstalk is an historically accurate account of a real event.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Again, since this must be explained to people like Judge Lamberth, the whole entire reason why taxpayers should not pay for gender transition procedures for inmates and why no such procedures should be provided to inmates or, frankly, to anybody else, is that gender transitions are impossible. They cannot happen. They never have happened. They never will happen. They defy the laws of human biology and common sense. If the judge believes that taxpayers should provide gender transition procedures to inmates, he should provide us with one example. Just one will suffice of an actual successful gender transition procedure performed anywhere in the world on anyone at any point. That is, he should point to one example of a man taking a drug or getting a surgery, and then as a result, becoming a woman or vice versa. But he can't. Nobody can. And he knows it. Everybody knows it. And yet somehow we still have not gotten to the
Starting point is 01:05:07 most outrageous part of the judge's ruling. The most outrageous part is this, reading now, if democratic self-governance means anything, it means giving effect to all duly enacted laws, including those that were enacted decades ago. It does not mean blind submission to the whims of the most recent election victor. So that's the judge in his ruling. Here the judge is claiming that, out of respect for democratic self-governance, he must prevent the president from enacting this policy. This policy that the duly elected president put in place.
Starting point is 01:05:45 This policy that not only did he put in place, he ran on it. President Trump spent millions of dollars running ads in key swing states specifically promising to end the practice of taxpayer-funded gender transition procedures. Lots of voters saw those ads. They then went out and voted for Trump. In fact, those ads were some of the most powerful and influential and successful ads that were run during the campaign by either campaign. So people voted for Trump in part so that he would put exactly this policy in place. And now the judge, who was not elected by anybody, is trying to block the policy that the voters asked for, and he's doing it in the name of democracy. I mean, this is reasoning so convoluted and fallacious and insulting to our intelligence that it almost makes his belief in gender transition seem reasonable by comparison.
Starting point is 01:06:42 It is pure nonsense. It is nonsense built on top of nonsense, which is why Trump should, once again, just ignore this judge and continue with the policy and dare the judge to do anything about it, which you won't and can't. And that is why this judge is today canceled. That I'll do it for the showday. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day.
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