The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1657 - Don’t Let Them Lie To You. Charlie Kirk’s Killer Is A Left-Wing Terrorist.
Episode Date: September 15, 2025Today on the Matt Walsh Show, the Left is simultaneously celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk and also claiming that he was murdered by a right winger. That is a lie. There is now no question that t...his was leftist LGBT extremist violence. Not the first case. And it’s not going to be the last. Also, in the wake of her husband's death, Erika Kirk delivers one of the most inspiring and beautiful speeches you'll ever hear. Some Republicans call for “unity,” but is that really what we need right now? Is it possible? And as leftists celebrate Charlie's assassination, conservatives are giving them a dose of their own medicine by contacting their employers and getting them fired. Does this make us cancel culture hypocrites? I don't really care if it does, honestly, but it doesn't. I’ll explain why. Click here to join the member-exclusive portion of my show: https://bit.ly/4bEQDy6 Ep.1657 - - - DailyWire+: Watch The Isabel Brown Show now at https://dailywire.com Order Lions and Scavengers: The True Story of America (and Her Critics) right now at https://bit.ly/4lVaMEA Get your Matt Walsh flannel here: https://bit.ly/3EbNwyj - - - Socials: Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3Rv1VeF Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3KZC3oA Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3eBKjiA Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RQp4rs - - - Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Today, Matt Wall Show, the left is simultaneously celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk
and also claiming that he was murdered by a right-winger, which is a lie.
There is now no question that this was leftist, LGBT extremist violence.
Not the first case, and it's not going to be the last.
And we're going to talk about that today.
Also, in the wake of her husband's death, Erica Kirk delivers one of the most inspiring and beautiful speeches you'll ever hear.
And I want to talk about that today.
Meanwhile, some Republicans are calling for unity, but is that really what we need right now?
Is it possible even?
And as left to celebrate Charlie's assassination, conservatives are giving them a dose of their own medicine by contacting their employers and getting them fired.
Does that make us cancel culture hypocrites?
Well, I don't really care if it does, honestly.
It doesn't, and I want to explain why.
We're going to talk about all that and more today on the Matwell Show.
A day after Charlie Kirk was assassinated while debating college students in Utah,
I said that it was important to gather as much information as possible
before drawing any conclusions about culpability
and before implementing the kind of crackdown on left-wing extremism in this country
that for many years we've all suspected would be necessary.
Well, now, several days later, we have gathered those facts.
The assassination of Charlie Kirk was unequivocally an act of,
LGBT terrorism.
Now, more evidence will come out soon, and that's also what I've been told personally from
sources who are familiar with the FBI's investigation.
But already, the evidence is overwhelming.
Charlie was murdered by a leftist who was in a relationship with a man who identifies
as transgender, a man who identifies as a woman.
The shooter engraved his ammunition with messages that are commonly used by left-wing
Antifa groups, calling Charlie a fascist, as well as a reference to a fetish subculture.
days before the murder, several transidentifying individuals and people in their social groups
posted messages on social media indicating that they were aware that the assassination would soon take place.
One of those messages read, Charlie Kirk is coming to my college tomorrow.
I really hope someone evaporates him literally.
Let's just say something big will happen tomorrow.
The account that posted that thread is now suspended from X.
Another post from five days before the shooting indicated that something big was coming soon.
Then after the shooting, the author wrote, well, that's that, and another chud bites the dust.
Here's another. This one was written on September 3rd. It begins, quote,
it'd be funny if someone like Charlie Kirk got shot on September 10th.
Now, the username of the author of this post, as Cassandra McDonald of Gateway Pundit has pointed out,
is Talley Hall album. And coincidentally enough, the man who shot Charlie Kirk, Tyler Robinson,
had a publicly visible playlist of songs by the band, Talley Hall.
Hall on Spotify.
And additionally, the shooter's trans-identifying boyfriend, McDonald reported, was active on
the Italy Hall subreddit.
That's just a sample of some publicly available posts that appeared to predict Charlie's
murder.
We can obviously assume, based on these posts, that the actual number of people with advanced
knowledge of the attack was probably quite high.
Additionally, shortly after the assassination, another post written by someone who was
in the same friend network as the trans-identifying man who was dating the shooter read simply,
We effing did it. And then a pro-trans organization, Utah, called Armed Queers SLC, took down its
Instagram page entirely. According to New York Post, Armed Queers SLC has a, quote, logo that features two
high-powered rifle rounds similar to the one that struck Kirk. The group also, quote, hosted a lecture
on queer resistance at the University of Utah in September 2023, around 45 miles from Utah
Valley University where the 31-year-old Turning Point USA founder and Trump ally lost his life.
Even people with direct knowledge of the shooter continued to protect him after the assassination.
New York Times is reporting that members of the shooter's Discord channel were joking with him
about the possibility that he was the shooter based on the photographs released by the FBI.
And yet none of the members of this Discord group actually turned him in.
But, and this is all evidence on top of a number of officials telling us, including the governor,
that he was heavily indoctrinated into left-wing extremism, hearing these sources from the family,
from people who knew him.
So the evidence, again, is absolutely overwhelming.
But maybe the clearest possible sign that Charlie was murdered as part of a coordinated
leftist campaign to terrorize conservatives is that over the past several days, his comrades,
have tried to disown him.
Even as hundreds of thousands of leftists openly gloat over Charlie's murder,
and this is everyone ranging from neurologists to schoolteachers,
to military service members, to entertainers, to the chief of police of Durham,
to the entire population of Reddit and Blue Sky.
Even as all that's happening,
these same leftists are pretending in defiance of all the evidence and of basic common sense
that the shooter was actually a MAGA white supremacist.
They're pushing the fantasy that Charlie Kirk was murdered because he wasn't right-wing enough.
Now, they know that it's not true.
They know that no rational person could possibly believe it, but they're saying it anyway.
The official talking point of the left is that Charlie was killed by the right.
This is a maneuver that for communist regimes has always been an old standby.
They don't actually care about their foot soldiers, even foot soldiers who throw their lives away for the cause.
they certainly don't care about the truth.
All that matters to leftists is their collective mission.
The shooter fulfilled part of the left mission by killing Charlie
by murdering someone who dared to engage them in free and open debates that they could not win.
And now the shooter is fulfilling another mission.
He's a useful tool to defame and malign the right.
Now there are too many examples on this front to list, but here's a few.
We'll start with Reddit, one of the many cesspools that should.
should immediately be investigated by federal authorities as a breeding ground for domestic terrorism.
But here's a sample of the post, quote, the Bella Chow thing found on the ammo casings is a Nick Fuentes thing.
He seems like an online Nick Fuentes Groiper.
Yep, groipers have been against Charlie Kirk for a long time.
Then when someone asks what a groper is, the response is, quote,
alt-right white nationalist Christian nationalist followers of Nick Fuentes.
It's impossible to overstate how aggressively this message is being pushed on Reddit and blue sky.
It's also all over Facebook.
It's all over the internet.
The media is toying with this message as well.
It's not an exaggeration to say that the majority of leftists probably believe it.
They're claiming that a gay man who was dating a trans-identifying man who openly told his family and friends that he hated Charlie Kirk, who was steeped
in left-wing ideology, according to the governor of Utah, who wrote Antifa messages on the bullet
casings, who accused Charlie of being a fascist, was actually in truth, a big fan of Nick Fuentes,
was a big, big far-right, right-wing guy. To be clear, Antifa terrorists have been citing the
Bella Chow song for a long time, as Andy No has pointed out, including in 2019 when
an Antifa shooter, cited the song in a manifesto before attacking an ice facility.
So there is a record, there's a precedent, not just for this Bella Chow thing to be used by the far left, but for it to be used by the far left when they're carrying out domestic terrorist attacks.
Additionally, one of the ringleaders of Antifa Los Angeles owns a company called Bella Chow Cinema.
This is an old World War II song that's been repurposed by Antifa today.
You know, everyone who looks into this knows it. It's very obvious. But in the left-wing feeder swamps, they're pretending otherwise.
Prominent outlets like CNN are doing their best to further the same narrative. Take a look at this screenshot of CNN's homepage the other day. There are nine stories about Charlie's assassination.
None of them discussed the shooter's motive or his belief in left-wing ideology and his connection to transgenderism.
none of them discussed the gloating of leftists or the messages that predicted the attack.
Instead, the stories are about the job that Cash Patel is doing, or how leftists are getting
fired for celebrating Kirk's death, or how the shooter's father turned him in.
Meanwhile, all over social media, major figures in the American left are openly lying.
Here's Harvard professor Lawrence Tribe, for example, quote,
Kirk's apparent assassin seems to have been ultra-maga exploding the GOP MAGA attempt to
pin the blame for this tragedy on liberals.
This is the same line that they used after the first Trump assassination attempt, as you
probably remember. Democrats said the shooting was either staged or that the shooter was somehow
a Trump supporter, which they still claim to this day. Only this time, we're not just hearing
that claim from a handful of big names. It's coming from everywhere. Here's the chair of
Minnesota's DFL, for example. This is basically the state Democrat party. Quote,
the shooter didn't think Kirk was right-wing enough. The reference to Groeper is linked to a
rival right-wing ideologue.
This is a declarative statement from a top Democrat of Minnesota that has no basis in reality.
He talks about a reference to groopers with no citation whatsoever.
It's completely made up.
Meanwhile, the LA Times apparently cited an expert who decided that Charlie Kirk was shot in a white supremacist gang hit.
And there's this post from Jackie Sartoris, the DA in Portland, Maine, who was recently installed with the help of George Soros.
she wants you to know that, quote,
there are now increasing questions
about the actual shooter's possible affinity
with the extreme far right.
This may have involved a beef between alt-right
Nick Fuentes and the victim.
That's a government officially prosecutor
who's supposed to care about things like evidence and facts,
and well, so much for that.
Over on X, you'll find posts with tens of millions of views
and hundreds of thousands of likes with the exact same message.
Huge numbers of people are spreading the claim
that the shooter was a right way.
or the totally false fabricated, made up, no basis in reality claim.
Here's one example.
This one has 30 million views, 400,000 likes.
Says, quote, so the killer of Charlie Kirk is Tyler Robinson, white boy, right-wing,
Republican, wealthy family born and raised in Utah.
This is a bad week for MAGA.
Here's another one.
This one has 10 million views and 100,000 likes.
According to Utah officials and police interviews with his family,
Tyler Robinson hated Charlie Kirk because Kirk wasn't conservative enough.
Robinson reportedly admired Nick Fuentes.
Geo peers now scrubbing ex-posts about Dems faster than DOJ erases Trump name and Epstein files.
Perhaps one of the worst examples is Randy Weingarten, the president of the largest teachers in the country.
She reposted a post from someone named Jeannie Ryder, and the post says,
The leftist students in Utah who didn't want Charlie Kirk to speak did what leftists do.
They signed petition, staged a protest, and lined up to challenge him.
The right winger who didn't want Charlie Kirk to speak.
did what right-winger's do and shot him.
We are not the same.
Now, Randy reposted that inverted reality nonsense with the caption,
this seems important to state.
Yes, the leader of the largest teacher, teachers union in the country, to her,
it's not only important to state total absolute nonsense and lies that completely flip reality on its head,
but it's also important to brand all right-wingers as violent killers.
Go on Reddit or Blue Sky and you'll find hundreds of thousands of people who are liking and upvoting various posts like this.
If you know any leftists, there's a good chance you're seeing the same content all over your social media feeds as well.
None of it is remotely true.
There's no source for any of it because it's false.
Just to be totally clear about this, any suggestion that Charlie was killed by a right-winger is a flat-out, bald-faced lie.
There is no evidence of that, none at all.
All of the evidence points to left-wing LGBT extremists.
It's not close. It's not ambiguous. Gay guy, trans, trans boyfriend, Antifa messages on the bullets.
Trans people predicting the shooting ahead of time. I mean, this is not, this is not close.
This was not a Groyper. This is not a Nick Fuentes Acolyte. And by the way, even if the killer was a right-wing extremist, which he definitely unequivocally was not, the left would,
own Charlie's murder because they've taken ownership of it. They spent the last four days
since his assassination celebrating en masse. Thousands upon thousands of them have personally endorsed
the man who slaughtered Charlie. So that even if the guy were a right-wing Republican, which again
he is not, he would still now be one of theirs by adoption. They own this because they have said so
themselves. Thousands of them have said that. They've said, we support this, we like it,
do it more. But again, the killer is not right wing. Yeah, there's no point in fact-checking
like this, really. There's no point in engaging with any of the people who are posting this content
and trying to persuade them that based on the evidence they're wrong. That's what Charlie attempted
to do, what he did with unmatched skill, and not to mention patience, debating and engaging and engaging.
with these people.
The left has made the decision to respond to that kind of dialogue with violence.
And when I say the left, I'm not using shorthand.
I'm not painting with too broad a brush.
I'm talking about the left.
And all of their extremist groups, of which there are many.
I'm referring to Antifa.
I'm referring to sites like Reddit and Blue Sky.
Most of all, I'm referring to the Democrat Party.
All these organizations are dominated by and under the complete control of demons who either
participated in the murder of Charlie, participated in other domestic terrorist attacks, politically
motivated, or who celebrated. They resemble a domestic terror cell because that's exactly what they are.
And they need to be treated like it. If you think that's overstated, here's Ilhan Omar,
the darling of the Democrat Party, one of them. Her response to Kirk's assassination was to repost a video,
declaring that, quote,
Kirk was a reprehensible human being,
a stochastic terrorist with his last dying words
he was spewing racist dog whistles.
Charlie Kirk was Dr. Frankenstein
and his monster shot him through the neck.
Then she gave this interview
in which she suggested that Kirk had it coming
because he wasn't a fan of Juneteenth
and didn't believe the myth
that George Floyd was murdered.
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What I do know for sure is that, you know,
Charlie was someone who once said, you know, guns saved lives after a school shooting.
Charlie was someone who was willing to debate and downplay the death of George Floyd in the hands of Minneapolis police.
I think he called him a scumbag.
Right. Have no regard. Downplay slavery and what black people have gone through in this country by saying Juneteen should never exist.
And I think, you know, there are a lot of people who are out there talking about him just wanting to have a civil debate.
A complete rewriting of history.
Yeah, there is nothing more effed up, you know, like, than to completely pretend that, you know, his words and actions have not been recorded and in existence for the last decade.
or so.
Charlie Kirk's public debates have been recorded for many years.
She's right about that.
And those debates prove the exact opposite of the point she's trying to make.
That's why hundreds of thousands of students, including Democrats, showed up to his events.
They knew that they wouldn't get shouted down.
They wouldn't get violently attacked, unless it was by one of their own.
They wouldn't suffer any consequences whatsoever.
They'd be able to engage with a leading conservative voice at length in a response.
respectful forum.
Which, by the way, is something that nobody on the left ever does, ever. None of them ever do this.
Who on the left is going into a crowd where there's going to be conservatives and saying,
you know what? I'll talk to any of you right now. I'll debate you on camera live.
Line up. If you disagree with me, come to the front of the line. Who on the left is doing that?
None of them. Not a single one in the country is doing it. That's something that only conservative.
do only. And Charlie was the best at it. And we know all that. The footage was uploaded in its
entirety online. That's what Charlie provided. It's one of the main reasons so many young men voted
Republican in the last election. He allowed leftists to speak. And in doing so, they revealed that
they were unhinged, incoherent, dangerous radicals, which is why they killed him. But really none of
this matters. Even if Charlie were the bully that they're painting him to be, which he wasn't at all,
that still obviously wouldn't be any justification to murder him
and if Ilhan Omar were a decent American or an American at all,
she'd understand that.
So with the rest of the Democrat Party,
instead, within hours of Charlie's assassination,
in a terrorist attack designed to silence conservatives,
they're gloating over his body and encouraging more violence against Charlie's wife,
against any other conservative who steps out of line.
Only the left operates like this.
The left is responsible.
I mean, it really,
This is not a both sides thing.
Okay?
This is not both sides.
It is not.
Political violence is almost exclusive to the left.
Nearly exclusive.
The left is responsible for torching federal courthouses, churches, small businesses.
They're responsible for BLM riots, Antifa,
responsible for the massacre of Christian children in schools and churches,
responsible for multiple attempts on the president's life,
as well as the violent attacks on pro-life pregnancy centers.
They're responsible for vandalizing Teslas, torching Tesla storefronts.
They're the ones attacking ice agents.
They're the ones attacking police.
The left is a near monopoly on politically motivated violence in this country.
It was a Tim Walls appointee, apparently suffering from schizophrenia, who murdered the
lawmaker in Minnesota.
It was Trump supporters and Trump supporters alone who died on January 6th, which is the one
example that they can actually give of right-wing political violence, right-wing riots.
That's the only example they can give, which they obviously have greatly exaggerated for the last five years.
And the only people who died in that were Trump supporters.
Political violence has been going in only one direction for a very long time now.
And that is by design.
The left's domestic terror operation is well established at this point.
Billionaires like George Soros fund various NGOs and political candidates and media personalities who talk like Ilhan Omar.
They declare that conservatives are Nazis, that all conservatives are fascists, who
demonize oppressed people or whatever.
When you go around, we kind of laugh it off because it's so ridiculous.
It is ridiculous.
But when you go around calling people Nazis, that is a direct call for violence against
that person.
It just is.
At the very least, it is a justification beforehand for violence when you call somebody a Nazi.
And they tell highly disturbed individuals, particularly people who identify as trans,
that they're being genocided.
by these fascists.
They'll open the prisons and allow the most deranged members of society to continue tormenting normal people,
which is something we don't even add to when we're talking about left-wing motivated violence.
We're not even adding to the list the everyday street violence that it happens because violent criminals are released onto the street by politically motivated left-wing DAs and judges.
And the politicians and billionaires sit back and watch as their deranged foot soldiers carry out acts of domestic terrorism.
And then, after these attacks of terrorism are carried out, the politicians gloat and blame the other side, showing clear consciousness of guilt.
Among other things, this is a criminal enterprise.
It's maybe the single most dangerous criminal enterprise to ever exist in this country because it poses a direct threat to our most important civil liberty, which is the right to free expression.
And it needs to be dismantled.
And I'll tell you what I mean by dismantled.
Billionaires like George Soros can be indicted on RICO charges, as Donald Trump himself suggested,
other day. Criminal aliens like Ilhan Omar could be denaturalized and deported immediately for
lying on their applications for citizenship. When they pledged loyalty to America, and where they
said in her case they weren't married to their brother, the entire industry of transgenderism
can be demolished overnight with a national federal ban on any kind, any kind of so-called
gender-affirming care for anyone of any age. The so-called doctors who would mutilate and sterilize
patience and service of this ideology can be sent to federal prison. All of these steps are necessary
and can happen. After Charlie's assassination and the facts that have been gathered in the aftermath,
there's no doubt about it. Terrorism against conservatives is only going to intensify us from here.
A year ago at the University of Minnesota, Duluth, the president of the young Democratic Socialists
of America threatened to shoot up the local Turning Point USA chapter, forcing a turning point representative to
flee the campus. Quote, I'd line all you, mother effers up against the wall and shoot you,
the socialist said. Nothing was done. The DSA chapter wasn't dismantled. That's normally how
these things go. The left terrorizes, the right doesn't respond, and in turn, the terrorism
intensifies. This must end. It is now abundantly clear that America isn't divided into two political
parties. We're divided into one political party and one cartel that aids and abets domestic
terrorism. They are deliberately
provoking some of the most deranged and
hopeless members of society, people
who are already in a state of deep-seated
psychosis.
And now that those individuals
are realizing that they're losing,
that they really can't transform into members
of the opposite sex, that
they're in the losing side of everything,
they're doing exactly what the left wants them to do.
The LGBT terror cells have been activated, and they're
effective terror cells
because trans ideology is a
death cult, the largest, most well-funded, most deranged death cult this country has ever seen.
And we shouldn't be surprised by this. You know, two weeks ago, I said on X and on this show,
the trans extremists are losing badly, they're desperate, and that makes them more dangerous
than they've ever been. And I said it would get worse. Two weeks later, Charlie Kirk was
shot and killed by an LGBT militant with a trans boyfriend. So I said,
again now, this will get worse. We need to take this threat seriously. It doesn't mean we need to
deliver speeches about unity or sing kumbaya and tell everyone to come together. It means we need to
utterly destroy every left-wing terror cell like the one that killed Charlie. And it also means
that we need to destroy the criminal institutions that are enabling their insanity rather than
treating it. And then we have to move up the chain of leftist terror to the non-pronger. To the non-pronger
profits and the billionaires. The more they gloat over Charlie's dead body and the more
they threaten to murder more conservatives, the harder we have to push. We cannot stop until
conservatives are free to exercise their First Amendment rights in this country without fear.
And until that happens, we don't have a free society. We don't have many rights at all,
to any meaningful degree. And in that environment, we don't owe our enemies any kind of restraint
or mercy. They must be crushed if civil liberties are going to mean anything in America.
At the moment, all the indications I have are that the Trump administration understands all this,
that they're acting legally, nonviolently, which is how we must act.
Now they need to do something the federal government never did under the previous administration,
which is to defend the civil liberties of American citizens and disarm and dismantle every domestic terrorist organization.
and militant LGBT group posing as a legitimate political institution.
That's a very, very long list to get through.
But with ruthlessness and without apology, now is the time to start.
Now let's get to our five headlines.
All right, well, Charlie's wife, Erica, delivered some remarks on Friday night.
It was, I can say without exaggeration, one of the best speeches I've ever heard anyone give, ever in my life.
When you consider the circumstances that her husband was just killed only two days earlier, her performance was even more impressive.
But even just judged on its own merits in a vacuum, I mean, this was a truly great speech. It truly was.
Moving, beautiful, inspiring, I thought it was incredible.
Probably my favorite moment from the speech was this. We'll play it not watch.
for my husband's assassination, have no idea what they have done. They killed Charlie because he
preached a message of patriotism, faith, and of God's merciful love. They should all know this.
If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before, you have no idea. You have no idea what you just have
unleashed across this entire country. In this world, you have no idea. You have no idea the fire
that you have ignited within this wife. The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle
cry. To everyone listening tonight across America, the movement my husband built will not die.
It won't. I refuse to let that happen. It will not die. All of us
We'll refuse to let that happen.
No one will ever forget my husband's name and I will make sure of it.
It will become stronger, bolder, louder, and greater than ever.
My husband's mission will not end, not even for a moment.
And one of Charlie's greatest talents was his ability, this phenomenal ability to choose great people to follow him.
What do you see in that clip?
I mean, what do you, or what do you feel?
watching it. We feel her resolve, her courage, her determination. We also feel her anger.
And the anger is important and also rare in these situations. You know, it doesn't seem like it
would be rare, but it has become sort of customary for the family members after an atrocity like
this to go in front of cameras and pretend they aren't angry and just skip right to, oh,
I forgive, I forgive everybody and all of this. And we never see, or rarely do we see,
the righteous anger that they must feel. And I think that Erica gives us a glimpse into that,
has the courage to allow us to see that. And I really deeply appreciate it. I appreciate it because
it's honest, for one thing. Of course she's angry. I mean, she should be angry. That anger comes from
her love for her husband, who she lost, and her love for her children, who lost their father.
It is an anger overflowing with love. It is a loving anger. It is a loving anger. It is a
is an anger rooted in love.
Yes, that is possible.
A lot of people have been, in particular Christians in this country, have been neutered,
have been spiritually castrated by going to some of these milk toast liberal churches for decades.
They would never talk about righteous anger.
When they make it sound like, well, you should never be angry, ever.
everyone should just be smiling and be happy all the time.
The idea that there could be a loving anger, that you could be filled with rage, that is actually rooted in love.
I mean, that idea is shocking to a lot of Christians these days.
It would have been shocking to Christians historically, traditionally, but it is these days.
So this is honest, and it's good.
And it's an anger that comes from her desire for justice.
She wants justice for her husband.
She wants to fight back against the evil that stole her husband from.
her. She calls them evil-doers. Not, you know, people who are misguided, not people who are
victims in their own right, not people that we should be, we should be understanding. No,
evil-doers. The doers of evil, and she is 100% right. And again, this kind of thing,
this kind of response from a grieving loved one, is very rare in our society, at least publicly.
It shouldn't be. Because it's good. It's unlawful.
honest. And it's what this country needs. Now, of course, you know, when I watch the speech,
one of my first thoughts was this is exactly what we need. This is exactly what the country needs.
And I hesitate to say that because, you know, Erica can say whatever she wants to say.
She has that right. She's the grieving widow. She can respond in any way she wants to respond.
It's not, she's not under any obligation to give the kind of statement the country needs.
It's not about what we need to hear from her at all.
But she did anyway, you know, and I'm grateful for that.
What we don't need is what we're getting from, you know, so many Republicans.
Not all of them, but a lot of them, which is this kind of lame, generic nonsense about, you know, unity, coming together.
Erica did have a lot of inspiring and hopeful things to say in her address.
I found it to be incredibly inspiring, and amid all the grief and sadness,
there was a deep hope in it.
But there was, you know, what you didn't get was this kind of generic, impotent, weak
sloganeering that were getting from Republicans about unity, as if we could just put
all put aside our differences and all come together, but we can't. And this is something that
actually I've been saying for a long time. This is not a change in tune now for me. This is,
and if you've been following me for a while, you know that I've made this point about unity.
You know, unity requires to unite around something. Going up to a group of people without context
and you don't know them and saying, hey, everybody, let's unite. That doesn't accomplish anything.
They don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Their first question is to me, unite to do what?
What do you mean unite?
I'm not just going to unite with you without knowing why or what we're doing or anything.
What do you mean unite?
Like this idea that unity is just, it's objectively always good, no matter what.
You can have unity.
People can be united while they're jumping off a cliff.
There was a lot of unity among people that were drinking the Kool-Aid in Jonestown, right?
There was unity there.
That's not a good unity.
Because the question with unity is always for what and around what?
We can't unite with people who reject truth itself, who hate civilization, who hate the family,
who hate children, who hate life, who want to kill us.
Even if I wanted to unite, I can't unite around that.
Uniting around what?
Around what?
unity must come around something and through something and for something. Unity has a focal point. It has a
purpose. We can unite in truth. We can unite in justice. We can unite in righteousness. We can unite in
Christ. Yes, we should unite in that sense, in that way, for that purpose, in that context.
but that requires the evildoers to drop their swords and repent.
You know, when you're out in the darkness,
if you're in the darkness and some people are in the light,
we can't just have unity
if it requires that the people in the light move into the dark
or that we meet in the middle
and let's go to somewhere it's a little bit hazier.
No, there could be unity,
but you need to come out of the darkness
and come into the light.
You need to leave the darkness.
I can go and I can try to bring you with me.
I can try to drag you with me.
But one way or another, you need to be in the light.
We cannot unite in the darkness.
We cannot, we will not.
And right now you have a lot of people on the left who are just living in total darkness.
Absolute total spiritual darkness.
And there cannot be any unity in that.
And we also don't need, as I reference in the opening, we don't need to hear the lie that this is a both sides problem.
Again, we're getting this from Republican politicians.
We've heard this kind of pablum from dozens of them.
The worst example is probably Senator James Lankford on CNN. Watch this.
Well, I would say if there's someone preparing to be able to take out an aggressive act against someone or to be able to violate the law, that is the role of law enforcement to be able to protect Americans.
We need to be careful now we talk about this, whether it is talking about white nationalists in preparing to be able to attack and to be able to carry an attack or does somebody like a Timothy McVeigh that hated the government intensely.
and in my state, 30 years ago, murdered 168 people in Oklahoma City, or whether it is a leftist
group that is interested in actually attacking a pro-life center that we saw several years ago,
or whether it's carrying out some other act of terrorism, or trying to be able to intimidate people.
We should have equal application of the law to say, if you're choosing to be able to carry out an aggressive,
violent act, that should be something that we actually try to interdict any time that we possibly
can. Again, thinking something, talking about something is very different than carrying out that
action. We have freedom of speech, but you do not have the freedom to be able to play and prepare
and carry out an attack against another American, no matter what's your ideology.
It's both sides, he says. Think of the white nationalists, except it isn't both sides.
It isn't, and James Langford knows it. All the Republicans say,
this crap know it. They all know it. Political violence is a left-wing problem. Violence is a
left-wing tool, nearly exclusively, which is why after Charlie was killed for the last several
days, there have been vigils, there have been memorials, there have been all kinds of events.
None of them have turned violent, not a single one, not even close to violence. If there was
any violence at any of them, it was the violence at the left-wing protesters who showed up, because
these are the kinds of people who protest candlelight vigils.
But it's the violence that they start.
You notice that?
Charlie Kirk was assassinated in front of our eyes.
Many of us have seen this man bleed to death in front of our eyes.
And yet no one boarded up a single window.
Does anyone believe that it would be the same going the other way?
I mean, if it was somebody on the left of Charlie's, you know, of Charlie's influence and status for them,
which granted, you know, when it comes to like their commentators and so on, there isn't anyone like Charlie Kirk for them, not anything close.
I saw somebody on some leftist on X said that it was responding to this idea that, well, if they happen on the left, you have to board up the windows.
And they said, oh, come on, do you really believe that if Hassan Piker was killed that there would be riots in the street?
And the answer is probably still, yeah, maybe.
But then also maybe not because no one knows who the hell he is and he doesn't mean anything.
He has no, no influence.
Like these are people zero influence on the culture in the mainstream.
Although he may still have, it certainly does have influence in the sort of deranged fever swamps,
the radicalizing deranged fever swamps.
So he does have influence there.
But in the mainstream, none.
And this is just someone who just doesn't matter at all.
So that's not the comparison.
The comparison is more like, you know, if Alexandria Kezer-Cortez was assassinated, something like that.
Now, if that were to happen, does anyone doubt that there would be mass rioting in almost every major city in America?
Does anyone doubt that?
if that were to happen, God forbid,
the very first thing that every business owner would do
at every major American city start boarding up their windows
and they probably wouldn't get them boreding up soon enough
before the rioting started and we all know it.
And you know, we've been through the list.
BLM, Antifa, church shootings, Tesla, pro-life centers on fire,
political assassinations, on and on and on.
It's not both sides.
You know, I used to see it differently.
If you had asked me eight, nine, ten years ago,
I probably would have said that extremists on both,
Both sides are the problem and they're equally bad.
If you can imagine me saying something like that now, I know it's hard, but I did a long time ago, years ago.
I don't know how any conservative could possibly still hold that view after everything we've seen.
Not just this past week, although that has been revelatory, but everything we've experienced, especially since 2020 in this decade alone.
No, extremists on the left are way worse.
way, way worse, more violent, more deranged, more wrong, obviously, more dangerous.
There's simply no question about it.
So it's not a both sides thing.
I don't want to hear about both sides.
I don't want to hear about it.
It's not true.
Now, I can tell you where there should be unity.
There should be unity on the right among conservatives.
and this is a message that I've preached a few times in the last few days on X,
that as conservatives, we need to put the petty squabbles and the infighting and all that crap to the side.
We can get back to that later.
And I'm sure we will.
You know, we can resume our family feuds sometime down the line.
But for now, we don't have time for it.
We can't bother with it.
We're dealing with a real existential threat.
We're dealing with enemies of civilization.
So we got to put all that stuff to the side.
That's where there should be unity.
Because one thing I know for sure is that if I were to walk outside of this building right now and get shot and killed,
there are a lot of people, a lot of people on the right, a lot of conservatives who don't like me,
who've been very critical of me over the years.
What I know for sure, for sure, is that not a single one of them would be celebrating if I were to die 20 minutes from now.
not a single one.
No, they would mourn my loss and they would mourn it sincerely.
And yet I also have no doubt, no doubt, that on the left, it would be unanimous,
unanimous that this was a good turn of events.
It would be unanimous cause for celebration.
I know that for sure.
They would spit on my grave.
They would laugh at my grieving wife.
and my six children who now have to grow up without a father, they would feel no sadness for
them at all, none. And so, pretty easy for me to find the friend-enemy distinction here, okay?
Pretty easy. And that's what we're up against, which is why I, you know, we just need to put it
all to the side. I'm extending the olive branch to anyone on the right who I've had any problem with,
not saying it's permanent.
Like I said, down the line might come in time to get back to some of those arguments,
but for now I'm just not interested in it.
Unless you're a politician.
Now, I reserve the right to criticize politicians at any point.
We have to be able to do that.
Although even there, you know, I'll do it on a case-by-case basis as needed.
But generally speaking, we need unity among conservatives.
Now, there are some people who've already turned down this invitation.
James Lindsay, for example, when I tweeted this couple days ago, he said, he told me no thanks.
Doesn't want to unite.
Doesn't want to stop attacking people on the right.
Which even after Charlie was assassinated, it's all he's been doing.
Just still, going after.
Still.
Not saying anything about the people who would actually be pissing on his grave if he were killed.
No problem with them.
It's just going after the right.
And that's fine too, if that's how you feel.
I'm, you know, like, fine.
I'm just done with you in that case forever.
We're not allies.
You don't exist anymore.
You're irrelevant.
If even now in the face of all this,
after one of our most important leaders
has been shot and killed on stage in front of us
by a deranged LGBT militant,
if even now you still have an appetite
to spend your time punching right,
then I have nothing else to say to you or about you.
You are worse than irrelevant.
And we will just move on without you officially.
And that's fine.
And that's fine also.
But the lines are being drawn is what I'm saying.
And they need to be drawn because we don't have time.
We don't have time for this.
We don't have time for the people that are on, you know,
the people that have made a brand among conservatives
for just only ever now criticizing conservatives,
just constantly nitpicking.
I don't like the way you phrased that.
Jeez, I don't know about that.
That's a little too far.
We got no time for you people.
Cut it out.
Okay?
This is a spiritual war.
This is good versus evil.
These people want you dead.
So cut that shit out and get serious.
Now's the time.
Or just be left in the dust.
And we'll go on and have this fight without you.
And you can just watch from the sidelines like a pathetic, impotent weakling.
And again, if that's your choice, then that's your choice.
But the time for choosing is right now for everybody.
Let's get to the daily cancellation.
As we have discussed and as you've no doubt seen, because it's so prevalent that it can't be avoided,
leftist across the country have been celebrating the brutal murder of Charlie Kirk.
This is not just happening in the comments on YouTube or in the left-wing digital fever swamps
like Reddit and blue skies. This is not a case of
the internet isn't real life.
This is happening everywhere.
On the internet and in the real world.
They're showing up to Charlie's vigils to mock him and trample on
his memorials. They're celebrating in the street. Young and old,
men and women. Leftists of all professions and persuasions. It's happening everywhere.
It's not fringe. It's not a rare occurrence. It's not an aberration or an
exception to the rule. It is the rule.
I know we want to tell ourselves otherwise. I know we like to think that
the bile and vitriol that we see on social
media somehow is not reflective of what's happening out in reality. But I'm sorry to say,
and I am sorry to say, that it's not, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, uh, it is reality.
It's not a dream world. This is not a hallucination. It's a thing that exists in reality.
And on social media, the people who are saying all those terrible things, they exist in reality.
Now, granted, there are plenty of bots, but there are also millions of actual humans.
Now, I know that when you go out in public, when you go to the gas station or the grocery
store, you look around and you see that everyone is being basically polite. Well, that kind of
depends on where you live, I guess. But hopefully, if you live in a semi-civilized place,
you look around and everyone is being basically polite. And you think, well, if any of these
people are leftists, surely they wouldn't celebrate if I died. I mean, look how polite and normal
they seem. But unfortunately, all the evidence tells us that even the polite leftists and the
produce aisle would be happy if you were killed right in front of them. I don't want that to be the
case. I wish it were not the case. I'm not happy to report that it is the case. But it is the case.
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I want you to die, he sings.
I never mind that he has the singing voice of a hearing-impaired toad.
This is what they think of you.
This is how they feel.
they will post it, they will say it, they will sing it proudly at your vigil.
But the good news is that for the first time ever, ever, they may actually pay a price for it.
As leftists have gloated and cheered the murder of Charlie Kirk, another much more unexpected phenomenon has occurred.
A bunch of them are losing their jobs because of it.
The Daily Wire reports on just a few of the many dozens of examples, quote,
the response from the left to the assassination of conservative commentator and Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk has been nothing short of sickening.
they have justified and even celebrated his death, and some have begun to face consequences for their actions.
MSNBC's Matthew Dowd was the first domino to fall after he essentially argued during live coverage of the assassination that Kirk had encouraged the politically motivated violence that claimed his life.
Following Dowell's ouster, MSNBC sent a letter to all employees, urging them to do better.
Matthew Foley reported a letter was sent to all MSNBC staff, admonishing them and saying they need to do better following Matthew Dowd's firing for his heinous comments.
An Office Depot employee was also terminated over the weekend for refusing to print a poster of Kirk for a prayer vigil telling members of the group Michigan Forward that the poster was political propaganda.
The poster question featured a photo of Kirk along with the lines, the legendary Charlie Kirk, 1993, and 2025.
A Secret Service agent who said that Kirk deserved to be killed was placed on leave and expected to be fired.
Nick sort of reported, citing a source within the Department of Homeland Security.
A Secret Service agent who publicly said Charlie Kirk deserved to be killed has officially been placed on leave,
expected to be imminently fired per DHS, he said.
Other reports indicate that an advisory board member at a Cincinnati Bengals star Joe Burroughs Charitable Foundation
was terminated for post-celebrating Kirk's murder, as was a communication specialist with the Carolina Panthers.
A number of others have either been terminated or suspended, and calls are still going out for more to come.
As I said, these are just a few examples.
there have been many, many, many cases, and more added every hour of leftists getting fired after publicly celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk.
One of the most egregious examples is a nurse at Children's Healthcare of Atlanta.
She posted, F his kids, F his ancestors, especially the bitch who birthed him.
She now joins the long list of people who've been fired for expressing sentiments like these in public.
They come from, again, all walks of life, nurses, airline pilots, corporate executives, government work.
workers, teachers. Public school teacher in Canada reportedly showed a video of the assassination
to her students and said that Charlie deserved to die. And she's now been suspended.
Now, it's the second part, the part where these ghouls experience some small measure of punishment
that's given rise to a conversation about cancel culture and accusations from the left and even
from some on the right that conservatives are now practicing the very cancel culture that they
once decried. By calling for and celebrating the firing of people who applauded Charlie's murder,
we have exposed ourselves as hypocrites, they say. We're no different than the ones we condemn.
We are now the proponents of cancel culture. What happened is free speech they demand? How can we
call ourselves free speech advocates if we're also advocating for people to experience consequences
for saying unimaginably heinous things? Well, allow me to explain. There is a fundamental
difference between the cancel culture that the left engages in and the quote-unquote canceling that
the right is doing in the wake of Charlie's assassination and the left celebration of it. The difference
is that the left will cancel you for saying objectively true good and normal things. To the
extent that the right cancels you, it'll be for saying objectively abhorrent, perverse, and sick
things. And this distinction matters. As I've said for you,
The problem with the left's attack on speech is not just that they're attacking speech,
but that they're attacking true and right speech.
They want you to be fired for saying, for example, that men can't have babies and women don't have penises.
The problem isn't simply that they're trying to get you fired for saying something,
is that they're trying to get you fired for saying the most basic and true things that it's possible for a person to say.
The left's war on speech is not a war just on speech, it's a war on truth.
They want to punish truth.
And that will always be worse, obviously, significantly worse.
There is a difference in kind between the statement, men aren't women, and the statement
Charlie Kirk deserved to die because he was a fascist, Nazi, racist, bigot.
What's the difference?
Well, the first statement is the most obviously true thing.
that anyone can ever say. The second statement is a demented, deranged, perverse, sick, evil,
wicked, horrendous, outrageous lie that not only smears the good name of an innocent man,
but also implicitly encourages violence against the millions of people who agree with his politics.
That's the difference. And the idea that we can't advocate social consequences against the latter
statement without also accepting or approving of such consequences for the former statement
is assonine. The idea that society must treat all speech exactly.
the same as if it's impossible to distinguish between banal everyday truth and the deranged
hallucinatory rantings of bloodthirsty sociopathic hobgoblins is totally ludicrous.
Now, I don't think that such ranting should be made illegal.
I don't think that the people celebrating Charlie's death should be banned by the government
from saying those things.
but I do think it's good that these people lose their jobs.
It's good that they are shamed and humiliated and must live with the repercussions for the rest of their lives.
It's good if they wake up every day until they die, wishing they had not said what they said.
That's what I want.
I want them to wake up every single day, and the first thing they think is, my God, I wish I hadn't said that.
It took my entire life off the rails.
Everything has changed for the worse because I had to go.
and say the most vile and disgusting thing that anyone can ever say. I want that to be the first
thought in their head every day when they wake up. We cannot have a civilized and decent society
unless there are severe social consequences for people who express publicly these kinds of
sentiments. Okay, because these people are barbarians. They are savages and should be treated as such.
free speech does not mean that we should act with anything but revulsion and disgust to people who say revolting and disgusting things and who in turn revealed themselves to be revolting and disgusting human beings.
I'll take that nurse I mentioned earlier.
Just think about this.
Upon seeing that a man with a wife and two young children have been shot in the throat on stage, her first reaction was to cuss out his kids and his mother and gloat about the child.
the murder. Now, that sort of statement, look, I know we're all desensitized from being on the
internet, but you have to understand. I mean, that kind of, that's, that is not just an
expression of an opinion. That is a revelation of her character, and it is a, the character of
someone who is barely human at this point, barely has a soul. You know, it's, it's, it's,
it's a character of someone who is unfit to live among civilized people, of someone who should
be shunned and shamed and alienated by society. Not through force of law, not through legislation
or legal consequence, certainly not through violence, but through social rejection. Because people
who cuss out the children of men who are murdered on live TV deserve to be socially rejected.
because monsters should be treated like monsters, and she is a monster.
Now, the left may now say that even if it doesn't infringe on free speech rights to fire someone for saying something abhorrent,
that even so, we should have more grace and forgiveness.
Well, guys, you should have thought of that before you spent the last 20 years trying to destroy our lives for saying anything that you even vaguely disagree with.
You should have thought of that before you danced on my friend's grave.
and laughed at his grieving widow.
No, what you want is for us to grant you radical tolerance and acceptance while you continue
to give us no such thing in return.
But that deal doesn't work anymore, guys.
The deal doesn't work.
The deal is over.
It's off.
We never should have gone along with it to begin with, and now it is over.
You will be held to your own standard.
You will have your own rules enforced against you.
you will be given your own medicine whether you like it or not and you will not like it.
But here we are. You brought it on yourselves. And that is why. That is why the leftist celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder are today.
Cancelled. That I'll do it for the show today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Talk to you tomorrow. I have a great day. Godspeed.
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