The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1721 - Democrats Are Doubling Down On Their Anti-White Agenda. Here's The Proof.
Episode Date: January 21, 2026Today on The Matt Walsh Show, the Democrat Party is doubling down on its anti-white agenda. If you look at the new Democrat administrations in New York City and Virginia, that is very clear. Also, a H...ollywood actress claims that she personally witnessed lynchings when she was growing up. That would make sense, maybe, if she were 120 years old or so. And is AI about to completely take over the film industry? Ben Affleck weighs in on that question. Ep. 1721 - - - Click here to join the member-exclusive portion of my show: https://dwplus.watch/MattWalshMemberExclusive - - - Today's Sponsors: MASA Chips / Vandy Crisps - Ready to give MASA a try? Get 25% off your first order by going to https://www.masachips.com/WALSH and using code WALSH at checkout. Balance of Nature - Go to https://BalanceofNature.com to lock in 50% OFF for one year when you subscribe to the Whole Health System supplements as a Preferred Customer. Cookunity - Go to https://www.cookunity.com/WALSH for 50% off your first order. Thanks to CookUnity for supporting the show! Done with Debt - Go to https://DoneWithDebt.com and talk with one of their specialists for free. - - - DailyWire+: Become a Daily Wire Member and watch all of our content ad-free: https://dailywire.com/subscribe 🍿 Real History with Matt Walsh available now, exclusively on DailyWire+! https://dwplus.watch/RealHistoryofSlavery 🍿 The Pendragon Cycle: Rise of the Merlin premieres tomorrow! Episodes 1 & 2 start streaming Thursday, Jan. 22nd exclusively on DailyWire+ ✨ Get 35% off an annual DailyWire+ Membership or choose the Pendragon Pass and get 3 months of DailyWire+ for just $30 with 1 month free. With the Pendragon Pass you also receive exclusive Pendragon collectible cards and automatic entry to win a trip for 2 to Budapest, one of the primary filming locations of the series. 🔥 Friendly Fire is here! No moderator, no safe words. Now available: https://dailywire.com/show/friendly-fire 👕 Get your Matt Walsh flannel here: https://dwplus.watch/MattWalshMerch - - - Socials: Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3Rv1VeF Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3KZC3oA Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3eBKjiA Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RQp4rs - - - Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Today, the Matt Wall Show, the Democrat Party is doubling down on its anti-white agenda.
If you look at the new Democrat administrations in New York City and Virginia, that is very clear.
Also, Hollywood actress claims that she personally witnessed lynchings when she was growing up.
That would make sense, maybe, if she was, say, 120 years old or so, which she isn't.
And is AI about to completely take over the film industry?
Ben Affleck weighs in on that question on Joe Rogan.
We'll talk about all that and more today, the Matt Wall Show.
If you need a preview of what the country will look like if Democrats ever taped back,
control the federal government. Let's review the events that have taken place in Virginia
over the past few days. A state now led by a CIA officer and sociopath named Abigail Spanberger.
Since taking complete control of the state, Democrats have raced to eliminate penalties for a series
of crimes from illegal migration to robbery to DUI for the benefit of the non-white population
that commits most of those crimes. In fact, DUIs will no longer carry mandatory prison time
in the state. And Spamberger has issued an example.
executive order ending police cooperation with ICE. So it's a real win-win for Virginia's illegal
alien community, who as we know are big fans of drinking, driving under the influence.
Democrats have also moved to formalize anti-white discrimination in government contracting.
They're planning to raise taxes on basically everything, including sports facilities, dry cleaning,
landscaping, home repairs, digital services. They're adding a new 20-cent tax to every single
Amazon delivery and installing surveillance cameras across the state to generate more revenue by
fining motorists. They're also dramatically raising income taxes on wealthy individuals who are mostly
white in order to fund free education for illegal aliens. They've commenced a new home-based
child care provider startup grant program so that more taxpayer money can be funneled to their own,
you know, Somali leering centers. They took one look at Minneapolis and decided, hey, we want that in our state.
Basically, to sum it up, that's what they're doing.
Here's a quote from just one of the bills that Virginia Democrats have introduced to give you an idea.
Quote, the small swam business procurement enhancement program is hereby established to facilitate the participation of small swam businesses in state procurement.
The goal of the program shall be the achievement of a 42% small swam business utilization rate.
And the bill continues, quote, the program shall include a small swam business set aside for the purchase of good services and construction by executive branch agencies and covered institutions. Purchases up to $100,000 shall be set aside for award to small swam businesses.
Now, you might be wondering, what is a swam, SWAN? And what's a small swam?
Well, if you go back and look at the definitions, here's what the bill will tell you.
Quote, small swam business means a small business certified by the department as being small,
any subcategory of small, small women owned, small minority owned, or small service-disabled veteran owned.
Meanwhile, quote, swam means small women-owned or minority-owned or related to a small women-owned or minority-owned business.
So this is one of those cases where they've clearly messed up the acronym.
they're talking about small swam businesses.
They're saying small, small, small minority-owned businesses.
That's what a small-swam is, a small, small-minority on business.
Not merely small minority on business, it's a small-small-small-business that is owned by minorities.
Whatever all that means.
No one ever accused Marxists of being intelligent.
But the intent of the bill is clear.
The state of Virginia wants more taxpayer money that will flow to minority.
And not because those minorities are the best candidates, but simply because they are not white.
If you're a white guy who runs a large business, then they're going to be shut out of contracts under $100,000.
A minority-owned business will take that contract from you unless, of course, you want to hire them as a subcontractor.
So if you pay the racial equity fee, then you can get the job.
These are policies that, as contractors already know, are the norm in many cases.
It's already standard in federal contracting, thanks to the civil rights era.
And now Virginia wants to drastically expand this kind of discrimination.
Now, it's obviously bad policy that's eventually going to lead to some very obvious,
potentially catastrophic outcomes and already has across the country.
And therefore, just to make sure that they never lose power again,
Virginia Democrats have also introduced legislation that would make it illegal to count machine readable ballots by hand,
as well as legislation that makes it much easier to obtain and submit absentee ballots without identifying yourself,
along with legislation that allows people who are incapacitated
to the point that they need a conservatorship to cast ballots.
In other words, they're enabling voter fraud on a massive scale.
And there are dozens more bills like this.
The account NOVA campaigns has cataloged many of them.
Now, if you live in Virginia, or if you did live in Virginia,
as recently as 2018 or so, all of this way back then
would have seemed hard to imagine.
Democrats in the state were considered to be relatively moderate, all things considered.
They certainly weren't anywhere near as far left as, say, California.
But that changed when every moderate in the Virginia State House was primary in 2019 and in the state senate a few years later.
The party is now under the complete control of California Marxists.
And now that they've assumed power, they're not wasting any time transforming the entire state to
fit their deranged vision.
Now, the other day we spent most of the show discussing how leftists continue to destroy
the American entertainment industry with terrible writing and communist messaging, pushing
DEI and all that.
But at the same time, you know, no one takes those shows seriously anymore.
They become parodies of themselves.
Look all over the internet.
You're not going to find, or it will be a challenge to find a single serious video or
post praising the new Star Trek show that we talked about, for example.
All the comments on the show's YouTube premiere are negative, and very few people watched it,
although they did premiere on YouTube and leave the comments on, which is a bold move.
And that's just one of many, many indicators that wokeness to a large degree has peaked.
Axios just asked two dozen prominent Democrats whether men can become women.
And like we talked about, virtually all of them ducked the
question. The party is trying to move away from some of the fringe, deranged messaging that cost
them the last election. But in turn, they're replacing that kind of wokeness with something much
more deeply rooted and more insidious and potentially much more harmful. And the state of Virginia is
Exhibit A for what they're planning, because Democrats have decided to go all in on anti-white hatred,
which every institution in this country has deliberately fostered for at least 60 years now.
So it's not going away anytime soon.
As the left kind of tries to awkwardly move away from transgenderism,
some of the other excesses of the LGBT movement,
they are doubling and tripling down on the racial narrative.
And we're seeing that in the streets of Minneapolis right now,
as they're harassing random white people who just commit the crime,
of walking down the street or driving.
And that racial narrative has proven far more enduring and far more effective.
And we know this is a much broader party-wide strategy based on how top Democrats are talking right now.
Michelle Obama, for instance, just stated that buying clothes from white designers and white-owned
companies is wrong.
You need to start practicing wardrobe equity when you're buying your clothing.
And this is a clip. This is not a clip from 2020. This is not from the summer of Floyd.
This is just this week. Watch.
If I hear of someone whose fashion that I like and I know that they're a person of color,
I try to make it a point. But the clothes have to be available.
You know, I think we can all do some work to think about that balance in our wardrobes,
you know. What does our closet look like and who's in it?
who are we supporting in it?
Right.
You know, and I think if you have the money to buy Chanel,
then you have the money to buy everybody.
Right.
And so let us be mindful, I think would be my advice.
So the women all nod as if it's a completely normal thing to say,
which for these people it is,
you're not allowed to avoid black-owned businesses.
If you're an Uber driver and you try to avoid high-crime areas
because you don't want to get carjacked and shit.
shot, your account will be suspended for racism. But if any other race wants to openly
discriminate against whites, the Democrat Party will support them wholeheartedly. So before
you convince yourself that wokeness has gone away, well, consider the fact that, you know,
it's still perfectly acceptable and encouraged to talk about how you want to prioritize
patronizing black-owned businesses. And yet,
even in our age, which is supposedly post-woke or whatever,
if somebody gets up and says,
you know what, I really want to support white-owned businesses.
That's really important to me because I'm white.
I want to support my people.
Nothing against anybody else.
But, you know, before I buy clothing or go to a restaurant,
I just want to make sure that it's owned by a white person.
Now, we all know the reaction to that kind of comment.
We know how that will go.
And it's true, of course, the Democrats have been talking like this for a very long time,
but unlike traditional wokeness, they're doubling down on this kind of rhetoric.
Everywhere they seize power, they're implementing an anti-white platform.
That's why Zohran Mamdani just appointed Afua Atta Mensa to be the chief equity officer of New York.
Just a nice traditional American name there.
Afuwa Atta Mensa.
I bet you there are a bunch of those fighting in the Revolutionary War.
The New York Young Republicans Club has found several posts in which this woman openly attacked
white people, which of course is the entire reason that Momdani hired her. In this post, for example,
somebody posted his thoughts on the television show Succession, and Mamdani's new equity director
responded by saying, quote, tax them to the white meat. Yes, tax them to the white meat.
This woman also frequently talks about her comrades and how they're going to dismantle white supremacy
and so on.
She also reposted and endorsed a message
stating, quote,
there's no moderate way to black liberation.
And guess what?
None of this is scandalous
in the Mamdani administration
because they all think this way.
That's why his platform called for raising taxes
on richer and whiter neighborhoods.
And as Cia Weaver,
Mamdani's director of tenants put it,
they're going to impoverish the white middle class.
The white middle class, specifically.
They're going to declare that homeownership is a weapon of white supremacy.
And Mamdani himself has confirmed all of this if there was any confusion.
Watch.
And realize there's a policy proposal that says your plan, and I'm going to quote it for folks,
is to shift the tax burden from overtaxed homeowners in the outer boroughs
to more expensive homes in richer and whiter neighborhoods.
Explain why you are bringing race into your tax proposal.
That is just an description of what we,
see right now. It's not driven by race. It's more of an assessment of what neighborhoods are being
undertaxed versus overtax. So no plans to change that language on your website. The focus here is
to actually ensure a fair property tax system. And the use of that language is just an assessment of the
neighborhood. So it's reminiscent of the defenses we saw concerning those South African kill the
boar chance. Remember how the New York Times ran cover for that? What exactly did you mean when you
said kill the white farmer. Well, it's just a common expression. Yeah, it's just a figure of
speech. It doesn't really mean anything. Actually, when you come out and say that you're going to
raise taxes on whites to their white meat, everyone understands exactly what you're doing.
The left has committed to full-on racial warfare. And they're going to win using this strategy
unless the Republican Party stops playing the same game in reverse.
A big part of the reason why Republicans lost the governor's race in Virginia
that has set up all this stuff to happen in Virginia
is that they selected an anti-Trump candidate from Jamaica
and could pat to themselves on the back for their commitment to diversity.
And she spent most of the campaign talking about being an immigrant
who won in a black district, district,
and how she can win more of the black vote.
Watch.
Let me tell you about me.
My name is Winsome Sears, and I served in the United States Marine Corps.
I was the first Republican to win a seat in the House of Delegates in a majority black district since 1865.
In the General Assembly, I had 100% pro-life and pro-second amendment record.
I became the national chairman of Black Americans to re-elect President Trump,
and we turned out more black voters for any Republican president since Reagan.
Now our country's falling into chaos.
But I still believe in the America that has accepted me as an immigrant and gave us a shot at the American dream.
So that was four mentions.
That was about a 30-second or a minute ad, and that was four mentions of black or immigrant.
Or maybe five, I lost count.
four or five mentions of black or immigrant in, you know, whatever, a 45-second ad.
And so this is still, and they lost. What a shocker.
Now, we're seeing this kind of thing replicated by Republicans across the country and other elections.
And the results will be the same.
Because this is still the Republicans' bright idea.
This is still there.
Oh, I know.
So if we find our own minorities to run and we run them regardless of whether or not they're the best fit,
and then they spend the whole campaign talking about how their minorities, then we'll win the minority vote.
It's never worked that way.
That strategy has never worked.
If Republicans insist on running political campaigns on the left's terms, the left's terms, like, which is a,
adopting the premise that somehow being black or being an immigrant is a qualification for
office, those are the left's terms. And as long as Republicans adopt those terms,
they'll lose every time. And the reason this is a losing strategy is that the left
doesn't actually care about the demographics of their candidate, or at least that's not their
primary concern or even close to it. Instead, the left is principally concerned with selecting
candidates who will ruthlessly and efficiently disenfranchise and bankrupt and incarcerate
and ultimately destroy white conservative men. That's why they elected Joe Biden, who allowed
FBI SWAT teams to arrest and some cases kill conservatives who offended the left on the internet.
That's why they rallied around Abigail Spanberger, an extraordinarily dull and uncharismatic white
woman. She promised to rig all the government contracts against white men to let the illegal aliens
out of prison to take jobs from white men to make it easier to rob white men and so on. And now she's
delivering on those promises along with every Democrat in Virginia. Left on check, this anti-white
fervor will lead to cases like this one out of Ontario, Canada, a 19-year-old woman who left her
14-month-old toddler unattended in a full bathtub resulting in the child's death, just received a mere
three-year prison sentence.
And that's because, according to the judge, there was systemic racism identified in the
community that explains the woman's conduct in this case.
Yes, systemic racism, i.e. white people, evil white people, explains why the woman left her
toddler alone in a full bathtub for five to ten minutes without any kind of
of chair or support whatsoever, even though he couldn't walk, and even though she had been
warned by the government on two occasions to never leave her child unattended. So race in effect
now excuses murder in Canada. The logic used in this case, of course, justifies reduced sentences
for any homicide, including acts of violence committed by black criminals against whites,
which are extremely common. In fact, 84% of interracial crimes involving black and white people
are black on white crimes.
In places like Canada and Virginia and New York and Minneapolis
and every other jurisdiction controlled by leftists,
those anti-white crimes will soon be excused if they aren't being excused already.
We can't allow this to continue.
But Democrats will continue racking up wins like this
unless we start fielding candidates that will recognize what the left is doing
and call it out openly
and pledge to defend white men from the onslaught of racial discriminatory.
that they will face if and when Democrats regain power.
Republicans that are not afraid to say, to explicitly say that,
these people hate white men and want to punish them for their, for the sin, for their
perceived sins, and we're going to stop that from happening.
We need Republicans who are willing to just say that out loud.
We've mostly defeated the trans agenda, which would have been, you know, would have had civilization
ending consequences if we had failed.
And now we have to confront the left's anti-white agenda,
which as the rise of Democrats across the country demonstrates,
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We'll start with this, Pam Greer, Jesse Greer, as she's known now. Pam, Pam. Pam.
Smolette. She has many names. She used to be an actress. She appeared on the view. And I don't know
what she's up to these days aside from apparently eating a lot of cheesecake from the looks of it,
which is fine. She's in her 70s. I've already said I fully support people over 65 getting fat,
which is what I plan to do. But, you know, so that's not the problem here. The problem is this
story that she told from her childhood that seems a little bit dubious, let's say. Listen.
You face a lot of racism growing up in Columbus, Ohio. How did that shape you? Well, the military
wouldn't allow black families to live on the base, so you had to live an apartment. And you couldn't
take a bus. You couldn't afford a car. You walked. Your dad's walk to the base. And
And, ooh, sometimes we would go from, you know, tree shade to shade to get back to the apartment.
My brother and I and my mom with bags.
And my mom would go, don't look, don't look, don't look.
And she'd pull us away.
Because there is someone hanging from a tree.
And they have a memorial for it now where you can see where people were and left.
And it triggers me today.
to see that a voice can be silenced.
And if a white family supported a black,
they're going to get burned down or killed or lynched as well.
Yeah.
Now, I don't know why she's dressed like Carmen San Diego.
That's one question.
More importantly, she makes a claim here that is just not true.
Of course, this incredibly dumb audience, they hear her say this,
and they say, oh, my gosh.
You hear the gasp in the crowd, you know, which she might as well have said, I remember being a child and growing wings and flying through the air.
And the audience goes, you did?
Whoa.
No, that is just as credible as believing that story she just told.
The last lynching in Columbus, Ohio was never.
Actually, there's never been a recorded lynching in Columbus, Ohio ever.
The last lynching in the state of Ohio in the entire state was like 19.
I mean, there's some people online say it was 1911, although I think in that case, the police intervened and the person was not killed.
the last person to actually be lynched and left to die, like hanging from a tree,
was in Ohio, the entire state, not in Columbus, where this, as far as we know, never happened.
But the last time in Ohio that happened was the 1890s.
And if you look up how many lynchings occurred in the entire state in its history ever,
you'll get varying numbers.
But at most, the highest estimate that I could find,
was like 28. Nobody estimates more than 30. So let's go with that. I mean, it's probably more like
23 or 24, but let's just say 30. Rounding up, there were 30 lynchings in the entire history of the
state of Ohio ever, from when it was founded in 1803 to today. And the last fatal lynching,
will say was in the 1890s.
So really there were 30 lynchings, all of them in the 19th century, over the span of 100 years.
And if you count the one in 1911, then that's 30 over 110 years or 11 decades, which averages
out to about three a decade in the whole state for 110 years.
And over the 120 years-ish from since 1911, there have been zero lynchings.
but Pam Greer's lies even worse because she's not claiming, right, that she witnessed one lynching.
That would be bad enough.
She tells the story as though this was a common occurrence.
Because you notice how she phrases it.
She says, we'd be walking along and my mom would tell us to look away because there were bodies hanging in the tree.
That's not what you say when you're referring to one specific.
incident, which also didn't happen, she's claiming this was a regular thing. I think she said
sometimes, right? Sometimes. Sometimes we'd be walking home and there's just bodies hanging in all the
trees, like tree ornaments. In the 1960s, in Ohio, they're just black people hanging from trees
all over the place. That's what she's claiming. This is in a great. This is in a great,
verifiable lie by a famous, well, relatively famous, used to be famous person on network TV.
And she lies like this because she knows that she has cover. She knows that nobody in the mainstream
media will call her out. And yet it's still remarkable. I mean, why do this? Why humiliate yourself
this way? What do you gain from this? Well, you know, it's for a leftist, of course, the desire to be a victim,
desire to be pitied. That's the desire. It's the desire to be pitied is what animates them. It's what
drives them. Now, sure, they use the victim status to gain power, to gain prestige in their
circles. It's all a power game. We know that. But they do also, on an emotional level,
when you talk about, well, what's their emotional? What do they get out of this emotionally? What's the
emotional incentive.
And the answer is they deeply desire to be pitied, which is the sickest, weirdest,
most pathetic thing for a person to want.
Right.
Pity should be the last thing you want.
Even if you're in a position and something has happened to you that is deserving of
pity, you still shouldn't want it.
That's how any normal person is.
A normal person says, I don't want your pity.
I don't want that.
And yet you had these leftists that are going out of their way,
that come up with reasons to be pitied.
But we should keep in mind, claiming that there were black people getting lynched
all over the place in Ohio in the 1960s is crazy.
It's not as crazy as saying, on the other hand,
that people are being lynched today,
which is what leftists will say.
say. So a lot of people have been talking about this saying, well, this is, that's nuts.
That didn't happen in Ohio in the 1960s. That is nuts. But these people will say that this is
happening today, that there are people today who could have this same experience of walking
down the street and seeing black people hanging from trees. Here's, for example, here's Jasmine
Crockett on this point. They're not even going, honestly, they're about to outlaw the idea
of white supremacy and white hate.
Like they are about to be like, oh, that's not a thing.
Forget the fact that you're talking about getting rid of like the classification for
nooses in a time in which we have seen these random black bodies be strong up down south.
Also, seemingly at a time in which you're back in office because what you do is you emboldened
the hate.
You emboldened everybody to take off their hoods.
That is what he is.
done. They're not even gone. They not even gone. They not even gone be talking about no white
supremacy. Child. These publicans, they ain't even going to talk about. It's a congresswoman,
by the way. So she says random black bodies are getting lynched, which is, I mean,
look, we're so used to it at this point. But think about what you're claiming. This is a member
of Congress.
Just making it up.
Totally made up.
Random, but really,
Jasmine, where is that happening?
Why have we not seen that?
You're telling me everything
ends up on social media these days.
Okay, if somebody has an
unpleasant interaction
with the cashier at McDonald's,
we're going to see it on Twitter, but we don't
see that.
There are places where there are black
bodies hanging from trees because they were lynched. And there are no images of that on social
media whatsoever. Anywhere. Fascinating. No, the last lynching in this country was more than
40 years ago. There has not been a single case in my entire life and I'm old as hell.
And that one case was the only one for the several decades preceding it. And by the way,
here's one other point I want to make since we're on the subject of lynching.
clearly anyone claiming that it happens today is insane or lying or both,
and same goes for anyone claiming that it happened in Ohio in the 1960s.
But there is another point, which is that when we hear about lynching in American history,
back in a time and in a place where it did happen, historically it did happen.
But I think it's worth pointing out because this is one of those things that's used to prop up the narrative of white guilt.
it's worth pointing out that even at the, in the, I guess we would say, heyday of lynching,
it was not common and it was also not always racially motivated.
In fact, it often wasn't.
And this is what the left does with history.
You know, either they fabricate stuff that never happened or they take some event,
they take some data set, they take something that does reflect a thing that actually happened,
but they frame it in a misleading way,
and then they play this gaslighting game
where you're not allowed to correct them
because if you do, right,
they can just say whatever they want about lynching,
and if you, especially as a white person,
come along and say, well, that's not actually what happened.
Then they'll go, what are you justifying lynching?
Why is it even, why do you have to say anything?
What are you justifying it?
This is what they do with slavery,
which we talk about in real history,
which is available now on Daily Wire.
So with lynching, you know, even though we're not supposed to correct it,
but it's like, yeah, black people were lynched and all the time and it was a terrible thing.
It was always racist.
It was never justified.
It was like, just go with it.
Just go.
Don't say it.
Just go with it.
That's the attitude.
But in reality, because I got to be the guy always to just point out, I got to be that guy.
that in fact, with lynching something like a thousand or more of the lynching victims
from like the 1860s to the 1930s or so, which is during the time when this sort of thing was
happening, about a thousand of the victims were white.
It's a large percentage.
It's probably about 25 to 30 percent.
Not a small percentage.
White people got lynched too.
And what does that tell you?
Well, it tells you that lynching is not synonymous with racial terrorism.
Sometimes it was.
That did happen.
But what lynching really means, historically in this country, is an extrajudicial killing by hanging, you know, in the most technical sense.
And for a portion of U.S. history, especially out on the frontier, out in the old west, this kind of killing was relatively common.
because they didn't have a court system and they didn't have much of it.
They didn't have a sophisticated court system or law enforcement that could handle some of this stuff.
And so you ended up with kind of this mob justice.
So you could get lynched if the townsfolk thought that you were a murderer or a rapist or a horse thief.
That was a big one.
And so when we talk about the total number of people where this happened,
It's like, well, that, a significant portion of that had nothing to do with race.
And some of them weren't even black.
There were racially motivated lynchings.
That did happen too.
But like if you look at the estimates, which obviously are not exact, but most people
estimate that something like four to five thousand people were lynched in America, total,
total in the entire history of the country, not a large number.
well, about 1,300 of those victims were white.
That leaves like 3 to 4,000 on the entire history of the country who were black, who were lynched.
And, well, if white people were lynched for non-racial reasons, obviously, then it stands to reason that there were also cases where they were happening to black people because they, in fact, committed a crime or they were at least were accused of it, just like the white people who were lynched.
So now you take out the people who were lynched not for racial reasons, but as a form of justice for serious crimes.
in times and places where they didn't have a sophisticated legal system.
And so now you're narrowing it down, narrowing it down,
and now you have the percentage, whatever that percentage is, I don't know.
Where, okay, now those are the people who were actually victims of racially motivated terrorism.
But it's not all 5,000, not even really close to all 5,000.
Even if it was, that's still a small number over the entire history of the country.
but you know that doesn't tell the whole story and I realize and look I realize that everything I'm saying right now this is going to get clipped it's going to end up media matters or whatever it's going to end up on on X and people he's justified he's saying he's justifying it because this is the game they play they just say things about history that are are not true or are out of context or it's just like there's more to the story that needs to be said and you're not allowed to correct it because if you correct
it, just, that's their attitude. And they'll almost tell you this. Because if you start correcting
them on something like this, they'll say, yeah, whatever. Okay, fine, whatever. But we don't need to talk
about that. Just let us do this. That's their answer to their historical lies. Just let us do
this, okay? We came up with this narrative and this is the thing, this is what we're saying. It's very
simplistic. It's not totally true. But just let us do this because it makes us feel good. And when you
start questioning it a little bit, it makes us feel bad. So shut up. That's their argument.
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Let's take a look at this.
Here's a quick thing.
Well, not really a quick issue, but I'll touch on it quickly.
CBS News, President Trump had set January 20th as a deadline for credit card companies to lower.
their interest rates to 10% for one year. And now that the date has arrived, most banks and
card issuers have largely kept their rates on change while also pushing back against
an idea that they say lacks key policy details necessary for them to comply. Mr. Trump announced
the cap on January 9th, giving banks and issuers just 11 days to meet his demand of getting
the rates down to 10%. And but so far, so the deadline has. So the deadline has.
has arrived and a lot of these, nobody has complied with it. Nothing has happened to them so far.
So I think this is an interesting thing. And I support the idea, if it's ever actually implemented,
because a lot of these credit cards, 20%, 30% interest rates, and those are insane, that's immoral,
usury is a sin. And bringing those down is a good idea. But it doesn't really get to the heart of the problem,
is that Americans are increasingly basically living their whole lives on credit.
This is something that Charlie Kirk talked about with Tucker.
And I saw a clip flooding around again after it was posted originally by, I'm not sure
who.
Captive Dreamer, I think, posted originally.
But so Charlie was talking about what we've discussed here, which is the scourge of BNPL,
which is buy now, pay later.
And this is a system that's technically not credit.
so it's not regulated the same way, but it allows you to defer payment for something or to break up payments into increments.
And this is not a new invention. What is new is that now you can do this with everything.
Right. You can do it with any retail product. You can do it with electronics, furniture, appliances, all of that has been the case for a while.
but now also groceries, fast food, pizza, Uber Eats, Instacart.
So increasingly we now live in a country where not only is everyone crushed by debt all the time,
but also nobody owns anything.
And that to me is the core of the issue.
I mean, there are people adults in this country who don't,
own anything, like anything at all. So now we can be in a spot where you might not even own
the burrito you're eating because it's on a payment plan. Even that has to be paid off.
So just imagine this scenario, and there's plenty of people who don't have to imagine it because
they live it, but a person, a young person in particular, sits down in his house at his table
to eat his Chipotle dinner.
Well, the house is rented,
or it's on a 50-year mortgage,
which is something Trump wants to do,
the table and chair still being paid off,
and so is the burrito bowl that he's eating.
It doesn't even own the fork that he's eating it with.
So there's this common scenario.
Where you would look at that, you think, well, okay, he owns all that stuff.
This is a guy who at least owns a table, a chair, a burrito bowl, and a house.
Well, increasingly, no, you don't own anything.
All of it's either on credit or it's on a payment plan.
And that's the problem.
The problem here isn't just the debt, although that's a big part of it.
The problem is a generation that doesn't own anything and therefore has no stake in the country.
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Iowa Republican Senator Chuck Grassley
has signaled a possible break
with President Donald Trump
over the passage of the Safeguard
American Voters Eligibility Act,
the SAVE Act, which would require
proof of citizenship to vote.
The president has complained since his defeat in 2020
about voter fraud.
Texas Republican Representative
Chip Roy introduced the SAVE Act last January
proposing to amend the National Registration Act
and block non-citizens from voting.
And it passed the House of Representatives
by 220 to 2208,
sends the bill to the Senate.
If passed the bill would,
and this is,
now I'm just reading the independent,
this is how they describe it.
If past, the bill could disenfranchise
millions of eligible voters
who lack easy access to identification documents
and would upend how states
register people to vote online
or through automatic or same-day registration.
In a letter to a constituent posts on social media
by MAGA activist,
Scott Pressler Grassley,
the Senate's 92-year-old
president pro tempore has expressed sympathy for his correspondent stated concerns about election
security but then added that he i have opposed partisan efforts in washington dc to
federalize elections in order to undermine election integrity i do not believe that iowa and other
states need politicians in washington dictating and controlling how states run their elections
all right now obviously this bill should pass uh we need voter id i don't think i need to go through
all the arguments or point out how ID is already required for many of the other things that
normal adults do on a day-to-day basis, like driving or opening up a credit card or a bank
account or anything. You cannot be a functional adult in America and not have ID.
We all know that, or at least the reasonable people among us, already know that.
And the article tells us that the act would disenfranchise millions of Americans who lack easy access
to ID? Well, the second part of that is false. Every American has easy access to ID.
No matter where you live, no matter where you live in modern America, you have easy access to
ID. Unless you live out deep in the Alaskan wilderness, okay, unless you're doing an into the
wild thing where you're living in an old bus off the grid in the wilderness, hunting moose,
until you eat the wrong kind of berry and die,
unless that's your situation, you have easy access to ID.
And this claim is especially absurd because, as we all know,
it's not talking about people living in the wilderness in Alaska
because those people will tend to be white.
No, this is referring specifically to black people.
And most of them live in urban environments
where not only is there going to be a DMV a few blocks
away, but there's public transportation to get you there.
So, we all know that.
Will voter ID disenfranchise millions of Americans?
I hope so.
Hopefully it will.
You know, when I read something like that, well, this will disenfranchise millions of,
God, music to my ears.
God, I hope so.
And that's just me.
Okay.
All the voters who are so dumb and so.
helpless and so incompetent that they don't have IDs and can't figure out how to obtain one,
I am very glad to disenfranchise all of them.
So when someone's counterargument is, yeah, look at all these helpless morons who don't
know how to participate in society as adults.
What about them?
This will disenfranchise them.
I hear that and I say, good.
Yes, that's exactly the point, at least to me.
I mean, yes, we want to safeguard election integrity.
We don't want voter fraud.
But also, if this has the effect of excluding the dumbest and most incompetent people in the country from being able to vote, I see that as a major bonus.
Like, they should already be disenfranchised just based on their incompetence and lack of
intelligence to begin with. So if this is the way that we achieve that, I think, very worthwhile
goal, then that works for me. Works for me. Even if you could convince me, even if you could argue
that, well, this isn't going to do anything to help prevent voter fraud, which I don't think that's
true, just to be clear, I think it will help prevent voter fraud. But even if you could make the
argument that it won't help with that, I would still support it because it will, we'll,
out the dumbest and most incompetent people in the country who should not be voting and should
not have any say in the direction of this country. But putting all that to the side, I just want to
think about this part where it says again in a letter to a constituent posts on social media,
Grassley, the Senate's 92 year old. That's it. I just want to focus on 92 years old.
Why in God's name are we allowing 92 year olds to serve in any position of
government, let alone in the Senate. I mean, I've been calling for age limits in Congress and in the White
House for years now. Can we at least agree on 90 as a cutoff? Can we do that? Can we start incrementally?
Like, can we at least say that when you're 10 years away from being a century old, it's time to retire?
Now, I want to make the age limit for Congress and the presidency 70, 75.
That's what I would like to do.
But if we can't agree on that, I'll take anything I can get.
Okay?
I'll take anything I can get on this.
So can we, let's start really easy.
How about 90?
Can we make the cut off 90?
Just to start.
But there are people who would oppose that too.
I could say, can we set the age limit at 150?
I mean, can we at least, there are people that say, well, why should we?
What if a mummy wants to be in the Senate?
Should we exclude all the mummies?
That's agist.
Okay, when you're, when you're, when you're so old that your pope old, when you're too old,
when you're so old that you would be old for a pope, then you're too old to be a politician.
You know, I think we should be able to say that.
Because that's how I don't know if I'm the only one who does this,
but this is kind of how I look at aging,
where I look at it based on professions.
So for me, I probably am alone in this.
I'm obviously mentally ill.
But I, so I recently became NFL quarterback old.
That was a big moment of my life.
where if I now at the age of 39, if I was in the NFL, I would be ancient.
I would be like a wily old veteran.
I'd be, I'm grandfather age for the NFL.
However, if I ran for Congress, then I'm an energetic, spry, rambunctious youngster
at the age of 39.
So I'm NFL old, but I'm Congress young.
And then you can kind of do that.
And then when you get into your 60s, well, you're old in a lot of context, but now you're
president young.
In your 60s and you run for president.
you're like a young upstart.
And then once you get into your 70s,
you're old in all areas of life
unless you become Pope.
If you become Pope at 70,
people will look at you and say,
wow, it's nice to have a young Pope.
It's nice to have a young Pope.
This is great.
Pope Leo is 70,
and people said that about him.
So my only point is that
we have people in Congress right now
that would be old for a Pope.
They're old in all contexts.
They would be old for a nursing home.
There are people in Congress right now that are so old that if you saw them in a nursing home,
they would stand out for how old they are.
If you went to a nursing home to visit your grandmother and you saw Chuck Grassley,
you would go, wow, that guy's old.
You'd look around at all the people in nursing home and he would stand out.
You'd go, like, that guy's really old.
That's an old guy in this nursing home.
And he's in the Senate.
There's no reason to it.
Like, there's no good argument for allowing this.
No one has ever made it.
No one's ever been able to explain why it's important that we allow people who are
decrepit, like, at a decrepit and senile stage in the aging process,
why it should still be okay for them to, you know, be representing us in public office.
No one's ever been able to explain that.
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I thought it was a good episode. I listened to the whole thing, which I rarely do with any podcast.
They were actually they were to promote their new movie called The Rip, which I watched with my wife last weekend.
And it was pretty good. It was like a solid little action flick. So good, good first act, good second act. The movie suffers, though, in the same way that movies of this type often suffer, where the tension ratchets up, you know, through the first act and the second act. And then it has to lead somewhere.
and an action movie, it almost always leads to like a big shootout or a car chase.
And that relieves the tension, sort of by definition.
Like the most tense part of a standoff, which means the most interesting part to watch,
is when people are not shooting.
It's the threat of shooting that makes it really tense and interesting.
The moment they start shooting, the tension releases and it becomes a little less absorbing
and a little less interesting.
And so anyway, it's pretty good, though.
But during the conversation, Affleck started talking about AI in the film industry.
You know, this is an issue that I care about.
AI in general, and in particular, AI in the arts.
We talk about a lot in the show.
And so there's been some discussion about this clip online, and Affleck's take on it.
Let's listen.
What I see is, for example, if you try to get ChatGBT, GBT or Claude or Gemma,
and I to write you something. It's really because by its nature it goes to the mean, to the average.
And it's and it's not reliable. And it's, I mean, I just came to stand to see what it writes.
Now, it's a useful tool if you're a writer and you're going, ah, what's the thing? I'm trying to set
something up or somebody sends someone a letter, but it's delayed two days and gets, and it can
give you some examples of that. I actually don't think it's very likely that it's going to be able to
write anything meaningful. Or, and in particular,
that it's going to be making movies
like from Holcroft like Tilly Norwood.
Like that's, I don't think that's going to happen.
I think it's not, I think it actually
turns out the technology is not progressing
in exactly the same way. They sort of
presented it. And really
what it is is going to be a tool.
Just like sort of visual effects.
And yeah, it needs to have language around it.
You need to protect your name and likeness.
You can do that. You can watermark it.
Those laws already exist.
You can't. I can't sell your picture for money.
I can't. You can sue me, period.
It kind of feels to me like
I think we were talking about earlier, where there's a lot more fear because we have the sense that's existential dread.
It's going to wipe everything out.
But that actually runs counter, in my view, to what history seems to show, which is A, adoption is slow, it's incremental.
I think a lot of that rhetoric comes from people who are trying to justify valuations around companies.
They go, we're going to change everything.
In two years, there's going to be no more work.
Well, the reason they're saying that is because they need to ascribe a valuation for investment.
that can warrant the CAPEX bend they're going to make on these data centers with the argument that like,
oh, you know, as soon as we do the next model, it's going to scale up, it can be three times as good,
except that actually chat GP5, about 25 times percent better than chat CPT4,
and costs about four times as much in the way of electricity and data.
So those, they say that's like plateauing.
The early AI, the line went up very steeply, and it's now sort of leveling off.
So I agree with most everything he says there.
There are two points I want to add.
And so you know that I'm very, very opposed to the idea of AI art, quote unquote art.
And I'm very opposed to AI in many other contexts, not all, but in many other contexts.
I think the chance that AI basically destroys human society is much higher than the chance that it proves to be any kind of net positive for humanity.
I think both of those results are possible, but I think the result of it causing civilization level destruction, I think that that is much greater.
But I'll add this. First, I differ with Affleck on one thing. He says that in the context of art, writing, filmmaking, it can be a useful tool, but I don't think it's a tool at all artistically.
it can be a tool in other ways, but in the creation of art, it is not a tool.
Because, and a lot of people want, I was arguing about this again today on X.
A lot of people want to believe that it's a tool because they use it and they might use it for some artistic things, for some creative things.
And they want to believe that they are the artist using a tool, but that that is not the case.
because AI does the task for you.
Tools are objects that you use to accomplish a task that you are doing.
AI just does the task.
And this is easy to understand if you think in terms of actual tools.
So if there was a hammer where you could press a button and it would just hammer all the nails for you,
Not even like it makes it easier to hammer the nails, but you can sit on the couch and drink a beer and this thing will hover, you know, and around and just nail all the stuff for you.
Well, in that case, it would be inaccurate to say that you use the tool to hammer the nails.
You didn't do anything.
You did not hammer the nails.
The thing did all of that.
You didn't even have to be there.
You could have left the room.
You could have gone to lunch and come back.
and all the stuff will be nailed. It's very convenient. I can see the appeal of something like that,
but you can't have your cake and eat it too here. You can't use this thing to do the task for you
and then also want to take credit for it and say, oh, yeah, that's a good, it's a good bit of construction
that I just performed. You didn't do it. You did not do it. The thing did the whole thing. On the other hand,
if you use like an actual hammer, a regular hammer, yes, that is you using this thing to
accomplish the goal, but it could not happen without you, right? And that's what AI does creatively,
which is why I hate it so much in any kind of creative context. And even if you aren't asking
AI to generate, say, a whole screenplay for you or make a whole movie or whatever,
even if you're just asking it to help with some part of the writing process, whatever that part is, it's doing it for you. It is not a tool assisting. It's just doing it. It is a cheat. It's a shortcut. And to whatever extent you use it in the creation of art is the exact extent to which the final product is not fully art.
So, you know, in the world of filmmaking, think about like special effects, computer graphics, whatever.
Well, without AI, you know, you want to have Godzilla knock over the building in your movie.
It's all going to be CGI.
I mean, back in the day, they used to use some practical effects for this, but those days are long past.
And so now it's going to obviously be CGI.
But that requires humans.
It requires actual human beings to use computers as a tool to compose those images.
And it requires talent.
And some humans are better at it than others, which is why some movies look terrible, have terrible CGI and terrible special effects.
And other movies have much better because they have better talent behind it.
It's an art form.
Well, AI takes the building, takes the composing part out of it entirely.
Now you just type in, like there's a big difference between using a computer to create, right?
You are creating the image of Godzilla knocking the building over.
That's one thing.
It's an entirely different thing to type into a prompt, generate an image of Godzilla knocking over a building, and then just hit enter.
Okay, that's not an artist using a tool.
at best in that case you're not an artist you are not an artist at best you are a manager
delegating a task and now art is not art it is management it is delegation and i cannot think of
a worse fate for art than that for art to become management for art to become this like
bureaucratic delegation of tasks.
That is the worst fate imaginable.
I would rather that art just disappear entirely.
I'd rather it be banned by some kind of fascist dictator government.
Takes over the world and it bans you from ever making any more art.
All music, everything is banned.
I would prefer that over all art just becomes managers who are dictating prompts
to inhuman algorithms.
It's like if I commission a painting, right?
I am not the artist.
If I tell a painter to paint me a picture of a whatever, a lighthouse,
and they paint the picture, and it's beautiful,
and I hang it on my wall and somebody comes to my house
and they see it hanging there in the living room above the fireplace,
and they say, wow, great painting.
Who painted that?
It would be a lie for me to say, well, I did.
Oh, that's, right. Thank you very much. Actually, I did that. That's my painting.
I'm the artist. Right? If they looked at the painting and said, oh, wow, that's amazing.
Who's the artist? You would be a godforsaken liar if you said, well, it's me.
Because you didn't paint it. You delegated the task to someone. You told them. Even if you kind of described, well, give me a lighthouse that on a misty morning and the light is shiting and the waves are crashing.
That doesn't make you the artist.
That's not art.
That's just you saying what you want.
The art is in the creating part of it.
It's not in the thinking of what you want.
Just thinking of what you want.
I mean, that's like saying if you can,
I mean, we think of a thousand examples.
If I go to a chef and say,
here's the meal that I'd really like.
You know, I'm really hankering for this.
Now, I really want a delicious, you know,
steakhouse quality steak, medium rare, I want some asparagus on the side, I'd like to have some mashed
potatoes. You know, I am not cooking the meal. The chef is doing all of it. And again, if somebody
comes in, they take a bite of the steak, and they say, wow, who made this? I would be a liar to say,
I made it. And it's no good to say, yeah, but I gave the prompt. I gave the prompt for the steak.
I described what kind of steak I would like. Anyone can do that. A five-year-old can do that.
Just imagining what you want is not the hard part, right, of this.
It's the actual creating part.
I mean, I can imagine in my head.
I can easily imagine a really beautiful statue.
I could come up with that in my head.
Anybody could.
In my head, I can generate, in my mind, the most amazing sculpture anyone has ever seen.
I can think of a sculpture that if it existed in the real world would be the most amazing
sculpture of all time. That doesn't make me an artist. The artist is the one who would actually
do it, who can actually create it. And yes, the same thing goes for movies. This is why, like,
you know, you get into making movies a little bit and you talk to people. Everybody has an idea
for a movie. Everyone has ideas. I got to tell you my idea. Here's a great idea. And the thing is,
a lot of times the ideas are terrible, but sometimes you hear the idea and you're like,
that's a decent idea. That'd be a good movie. That doesn't make you a filmmaker. It doesn't
make you an artist. Can you go do it? Can you actually write that movie? Can you be involved in a
real? Can you act in it? Can you actually be involved in the creation of the thing? And the other
point is where Affleck says that, you know, you're never going to be able to just prompt the AI to generate
a whole movie out of whole cloth? Well, I think he's wrong. I mean, AI can do that now, really.
AI could generate a whole movie right now. It's not a matter of AI developing the ability to
perform that task. It has the ability right now, but the difference is that right now,
the audience would not accept it. So he's right in a sense. There is no totally AI generated
movie that can be made right now that anyone or any sizable portion of people would want to watch.
The question then for the future is not whether AI will be able to make a movie. It's not whether
we'll be in a spot one day where you could just type into a prompt, make me a movie about
this. Here's three sentences of the plot, make the movie. I think we're already kind of there,
or we're at least very close to it. And I mean, you can already do a shorter version of that. You can have
I make like a three-minute video. If you can do three minutes, it could do 90 minutes. There's no reason
why I can't. So I think we're already there or we're very close to being there. That's not the
question. The question is whether audiences will eventually come to accept it. In other words,
will audiences become so numb and so soulless and have such little respect for themselves
that they will settle for something like that? Will audiences eventually
say, yeah, you know what? I'll sit down and watch a film that was made by no one and generated by
an algorithm with no heart or soul or purpose or meaning at all. That's going to be the question,
because that is, as I've said so many times, you know, that is art. Not to be, I was talking about
this yesterday and someone said to me, you know, well, that's a romantic view of art. You have a really
romantic view of art. Well, of course I do. It's art. If you don't have a romantic view of art,
then you don't understand art. That's what art is. What other view of it would you have?
But that's what art is an expression of the human heart. And it's a language spoken and that can only
be spoken and only be understood by beings with rational souls. That's what makes it art. And that's
what separates it from mere distraction or mere spectacle or even just mere entertainment. Art can be
entertainment, but it's not just entertainment. And that's what separates it. And that will always be
the case, which is why AI will never be able to create art. It will never happen. It cannot happen
by definition. For the same reason that AI will never be able to love you, I don't care how advanced
it gets. It may get so advanced that it can fool you, if you're a really gullible person,
into thinking that it loves you, but it will never be able to actually love because it lacks
the essential components of love, which is the human soul consciousness. And so the question
there too is not, well, will AI be at a point where they can, where it can, where it can
love a person and you can get married to AI? The answer is no. Will people ever become so degraded
that they will settle for like marrying a computer? Or will people ever become so degraded that
they will settle for watching a piece of art that is not art because it was generated by an
algorithm? That's the question. And I think, I hope the answer is no, but all indications are that
the answer is yes. That's what scares me.
And that is what we'll do it for the show today.
Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening.
Talk to you tomorrow.
Great day. Godspeed.
What was it like, Merlin?
To be alone with God.
Is that who you think I was alone with?
I knew your father.
I am yet convinced that he was not of this world.
All men know of the great Taliesin.
Who am I, father?
That the gods should war for my soul.
Princess Garris.
Savior.
of our people.
I know what the bull god offered you.
I was offered the same.
And?
There is a new pirate work in the world.
I've seen it.
A god who sacrifices what he loves for us.
We are each given only one life singer.
No.
We're given another.
I learned of Yazoo the Christ.
And I have become his follower.
He's waiting on a miracle.
And I think you can give him one.
Trust in you.
Jesus, he is the only hope for men like us.
Fate of Britain never rests in the hands of the great life.
Great light, great darkness.
Such things mattered to me then.
What matters to you now, mistress of lies?
You, nephew.
The sword of the high king.
How many lives must be lost before you accept the power?
You were born to wield.
So clinging to the promises of a God who has abandoned you.
I cannot take up their sword again.
You know what you must do.
Great life, forgive me.
The time has come to be reborn.
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