The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 216 - How Men Are Silenced In The Abortion Debate

Episode Date: March 12, 2019

Today on the show, the dream is dead. Democrats give up on impeachment. Also, a man is suing an abortion clinic after his girlfriend got an abortion without his consent. We’ll discuss the many ways in which men are silenced in the abortion debate. Finally, I’ll answer your emails. Date: 03-12-2019 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today on the Matt Wall Show, the dream is dead. Democrats are giving up on impeachment. Terrible tragedy. We'll talk about that. Also, a man is suing an abortion clinic on behalf of his unborn child who was aborted against his wishes. This is a case that could have enormous and enormously positive repercussions. So we'll talk about that.

And specifically, I want to talk about the ways that men are often marginalized in the abortion debate. So that and many other topics today on the Matt Wall Show. Well, Nancy Pelosi has caused some consternation on the left because she said in a Washington Post interview that she does not now favor impeaching Trump. She said, I'm not for impeachment. This is news. I haven't said this to any press person before, but since you asked, and I've been thinking about this, impeachment is so divisive to this country that unless there's something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don't think we should go down that path because it divides the country. and he's just not worth it. Now, she did, though, try to retain her resistance credentials by then going on to talk about how Trump is intellectually and ethically unfit for office, which even, you know, we're so used

to hearing that kind of thing, but even a statement like that, which is so common from Democrats about Trump, where they talk about how he's unfit for office, but as recently as the Obama administration for Republicans to say that he was unfit. Can you imagine a Republican saying that Obama was intellectually unfit for office? That would have been a huge scandal. And there may have been a few Republicans or some conservatives who said Obama was unfit for office, but that kind of language was considered a big deal. It was like, oh, you know. But now this is just Democrats, just they just, it's just normal. It's just what they say. say, he's unfit for office, he's scum, he's awful. Ilhan Omar said yesterday that Trump is not even

human. And yet again, that's just, you know, that's where our rhetoric is. Now, that's where, that's the state of political discourse is where that's completely normal. But she does think, anyway, Pelosi says that impeachment isn't a good idea. Now, think about this for a minute. think about where we are, that first of all, it took Nancy Pelosi two years to say that she doesn't want to impeach, even though there was never any reason to impeach. It took her two years to say, let's not impeach. And also that this news is a shock to other Democrats who really want impeachment, though, again, they have no basis for it. They have no reason. They just want it. And I've been saying all along that that's going to be the last straw for our judgment.

democracy. The last straw will be when an oppositional party tries officially to remove a sitting president simply because they don't like him and they're opposed to his politics. Now, the Democrats don't really have the power to do that. That's the other thing. To impeach the president wouldn't accomplish anything because the impeachment is just sort of like an indictment. In order for there to be a trial and to actually remove him from office, you need, I believe, two-thirds of the Senate. And of course, they don't have anywhere close to two-thirds of the Senate to make that happen. So they don't have the power to do it. And that's part of the reason why no president has ever been successfully. Some, a few presidents have been impeached,

but no president's been successfully removed from office because it would require such an overwhelming amount of support in the legislative branch that it is very difficult to do. so that protects us. And it turns out that our founding fathers were pretty smart dudes, you know, in the end. They set it up so that you would probably need a really, really good reason, legitimate reason to actually remove a president. Now, if it was impossible to remove a president, then we would have tyranny. But if it's too easy, then you're going to have presidents getting kicked out left and right, and then you have a banana republic. So we don't have that. But I think we're moving in that direction.

We haven't we haven't crossed that line yet because of the way that the system is set up. Our system prevents it. But the fact that the idea of impeachment was entertained for so long without reason, without cause, is pretty frightening. All right. So enough politics. That was four minutes of politics. We'll move on already because I think this is a more important, more interesting. topic. A man in Alabama by the name of Ryan Majors has been granted the right to sue an abortion

clinic on behalf of his unborn child who was aborted by his girlfriend against his wishes. Now this case, as you can imagine, has not been received well, to put it lightly by the pro-abortion side. I just saw an article in the Independent that is calling this case terrifying. This is a terrifying case. It's terrifying that a father can seek justice on behalf of his murdered child, terrifying if you're a child killer or an apologist for child killers. Now, this case is, it's important and it's being called unprecedented because it gives legal rights to an unborn baby, and that is, of course, enormously consequential in a very good way. But I think it's also extremely important because,

by extension, it's giving voice to the father. It's giving voice to the man as well as the child. In an abortion, there are three people involved. There are three people who are profoundly affected. That would be the mother, the father, and the child, of course. But as our law stands right now, although there are three people involved, only one person has any say or any rights, and that would be the mother. So this case gives a voice to the other two people involved. And in fact, I'm going to play a quick clip of a local news report featuring this father because I just want you to see in his own words, I think it's pretty powerful. And this is him talking about the situation in his own words.

Every time a woman goes to the Alabama Women's Center with the intent of getting an abortion, she gets this pamphlet. And that's where the suit alleges that Brian. Major's girlfriend did receive her abortion. And in this pamphlet, as she had to have flipped through it, if she did get this abortion at this clinic, it even shows the different sizes of the baby at different points in the pregnancy. And for Ryan to know that right here, around the six-week mark, according to that suit, that's when his girlfriend did get that abortion. He says even at this point, it's still a decision. He can't seem to wrap his head around. I'm here for the men who actually want to have their baby. It's been nearly two years. since Ryan Major's girlfriend aborted their baby. It was just like my whole world just fell apart. And today he lives with a constant reminder

of what could have been. Right here in the first rows, I have a due date and it's just when the baby was supposed to be born. Majors filed a lawsuit in Madison County Wednesday, suing Alabama Women's Center, their employees and the pharmaceutical company who makes the medication used in an abortion. I believe that every child from conception is a baby

and it deserves to live. I talked to Dalton Johnson, who owns the Alabama Women's Center. He wasn't aware the suit had been filed, but did offer some insight into abortion procedures. The suit says the baby was aborted at six weeks. Johnson said at that point in the pregnancy, a woman can choose how she wants to end the pregnancy, either by medication or surgery. I just tried to plea with her and plea with her and just talk to her about it and see what I could do, but in the end, there was nothing I could do to change her mind. And even though it's too late for majors to stop his girlfriend's abortion, he said he wants to give a voice to other would-be dads who find themselves in the same spot. Even though there's nothing I can do for the situation that I was in, there is something I can do for the future situations for other people. So I think he's a hero.

What he's doing is heroic. And you see here what is perhaps the most forbidden subject in a, um, in public discourse today, the most taboo thing to bring up. And that is the plight of men whose children are aborted against their wishes. These are silent victims who we aren't allowed to talk about. But the fact is that this man, Ryan, is not an aberration. He is not alone. There are many men like him.

there are many men who are victims of abortions themselves because their children are killed without their consent. It's true that the opposite also happens quite a bit, right? There are plenty of situations where you've got cowardly, weak, pathetic, disgusting men who pressure their girlfriends to get abortions. And that does have, but we hear about that sort of thing all the time. But then there's also this. What about the men who are pleading the other way,

who beg the mother of their children not to do it? Can you imagine, just try to put yourself in the shoes of this man for a minute. Can you imagine you conceive a child and you're excited to be a father? And then the mother-child says, I'm going to kill the baby. And there's nothing you can do about it. You cannot stop me. Can you imagine being in that position? It's impossible to even conceive.

Of course, pro-abortion people are panicking over this, like I said, claiming that this is all about, you know, this is all about controlling women's bodies. So Jessica Valenti, who's an especially vile pro-abortion feminist and a sociopath, was ranting about this case on Twitter, predictably, saying that this is her word. She said, this isn't about anything other than controlling women's bodies. And then she added that she also hates Ryan's face. She hates his face, she said, because she is, as I said, hateful and vile. There's just, there aren't enough bad things you could say about the woman. But of course, this is not about controlling women's bodies. And what does it say about pro-abortion people that they can't conceive of any other reason

why a man might not want his child to be killed? like they literally can't understand that a father might actually just not want his child to be killed, not because it's part of any patriarchal conspiracy to control women, but maybe a father really just loves his child and doesn't want the child to be killed. They can't understand that. They actually don't understand it. They say, what do you mean? Love your child.

What is that? I don't know. Nobody does that. They can't understand it. They think, no, no, no. If a man doesn't want his kid to be killed, it could only. only be, because there must be some, some dastardly motivation behind it. Because these people are so empty and soulless inside that they can't understand the concept of loving an unborn child.

They don't even, they don't think it's possible. Yet the fact remains that this baby is not the woman's body. okay this is not about controlling the woman's body because the thing that is at stake here is not the woman's body but in fact the body of an entirely separate person who is the baby and that person is 50% the result of the woman and 50% the result of the man that that that other human that third party involved would not exist without the man so that child is not the woman's body And that child does not belong to the woman. That child belongs, first of all, to God. But in terms of, in earthly terms, that child belongs just as much to the father as he does to the mother. You know what? It's not even like 5150.

It's not even that. It is 50-50. Or maybe better yet, 100%, 100%. that child, that's the better way of putting it, that child is 100% the son of this father and 100% the son of the mother as well. Think about the mixed messages that we send here with these sorts of situations. Where the message from the left and by extension from our culture is what we say to men is, when the baby is in the womb, we say that's none of your business, none of your concern.

You have no vested interest in this. You have no say. You have no rights. It doesn't matter what you want. If she wants to keep the baby, she's going to keep the baby. She wants to kill the baby. Your opinion does not matter. And that's the message for nine months.

That's what we say to men. Your opinion doesn't matter. You have no interest in this. It's not your child. It doesn't matter. Minds your own business over and over and over again. That's what we say for nine months. And then the moment that child emerges from the birth canal, then we flip it around and say, where's child support? You need to be here. Don't be a deadbeat. Where did you go? You need to be here taking care of this child. Now, of course, I agree that when the child is born, the father needs to be there and shouldn't be a deadbeat and everything.

but it's a mixed message. In one sense, if the father that's a deadbeat and goes off and doesn't want to take care of his child, well, he's just, I guess all he's doing is he took you seriously when you said it's not of his concern. And the father said, okay, well, I guess not then. All right, well, fine.

But even someone like Jessica Valenti, I don't know if she has any kids, but, you know, I'm sure if she had a kid, she would be, wow, that father needs to be here taking care of this kid. Yeah, you say that now. What about before? What if I take you up on your, what if I actually take all of your blathering seriously about how this is just your body? Well, hey, there's no baby at all. It's just your body. So I guess when the baby comes out, that's like your, that's your organ or your limb that is,

suddenly come to life, but it's still yours. It's not mine. No, we, that's not, that's not fair to the men. That's not fair to the baby. It's just, it doesn't make any sense. That child, there needs to be a consistent message to men. And the message is from the very beginning, from conception, this is your child. And you need to be here for the child. And not just when the child is born, by the way, but from the very beginning, the mother of your child is pregnant. You need to be there for her. You need to be supporting her. You need to be interested. You need to be all these and take her to doctor's appointments. I mean, be involved. Get married to her if you're not yet, by the way. That should be the message. See, that's a message that works for everybody. You notice that? That message works for

everyone. Works for the child. It works for the mother. Works for the father. Everybody is built up. Everybody is lifted up. Everyone is put into a safer and better situation. situation when that's our message from conception. But when we try to say that, oh, no, you know, you need to wait nine months for your fatherly instinct to set in. And up until that point, this is none of your business. Well, once you start doing that, well, you can't do it. And what's going to happen is sort of you're going to have one principle that's extended in one direction either way. So if the principle that we're telling the fathers when the the child is in the womb, if what we're telling them is, this is none of your business, not your

child, don't worry about it, mind your own business, then in many cases, that principle is going to be extended beyond the womb. But if you go the other way and you say, no, this is your business, this is your child, this is 100% your responsibility, just until it gets 100% the woman's responsibility, then that principle will also be extended. It's a, you know, it's an interesting thing that the pro-life message has this effect, right, of lifting people up and just making everyone's life better, protecting life, treasuring life. I mean, that's, it's pro-life. And that's the, it's pro-life. And that's why the, the moniker of pro-choice doesn't mean anything, because these people aren't about choice. Even they're not about choice. Pro-choice people are manifestly opposed to choice

and freedom in so many, when it comes to so many other issues. But even when it comes to abortion, well, they're only, they're only concerned about the choice of one person. Again, there are three people involved. They only care about the choice of one person, and that's the mother. And even then, they only care about the choice if she's choosing to abort. But if she chooses to keep the baby, well, then plant paranoid's got nothing for. Plant Parenthood doesn't care. Planned Parenthood says, get out of here. If you're not going to kill the baby, we don't care. Go somewhere else.

We're not going to help you. So they care about the choice of one person and as long as it's only one particular choice. But the father has no choice, the baby has no choice. So pro-choice means nothing. Pro-life actually means something, though. In that people who are really pro-life, it really means that they just, they are in favor of, they think life is a beautiful thing and it should be treasured and protected. And I mean, how can you disagree?

How can you be a living human being and disagree with that? All right. So on a related note, but on the opposite end of the spectrum, on the opposite end of the fatherhood spectrum, I wanted to mention this because I saw this yesterday. And you see this kind of thing these days somewhat frequently. There was a guy, a verified account on Twitter, an author of some kind, I think, who took to Twitter yesterday to complain that parenthood is really hard, really trying, very difficult, and he said publicly that he regrets ever having his son.

Okay, so this is, we just talked about Ryan Majors. This is like the opposite of Ryan Majors. That was a man who wanted to be a father, and this is someone who doesn't. So he said, this guy said he loved. his son, loves his son, but he regrets having him. Says his wife feels the same way. I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what he said. Now, I'm not going to put this guy's name out there because this isn't about sicking the mob on him. That's not the point. I just point to it because it's part of a trend that you find online. And it seems every few months there's something like this.

It was a couple of months ago, we talked about it on the show. There was a Hollywood director, or someone who went online and said the same thing, expressed regrets about ever having a child. And there have been articles about this and so on in the media. Like I said, every few months you see this, some article about parents who regret having their kids. Or I remember, and I remember this well because it was right around the time when we were having our twins. It was about five years ago. and there was a big article in one of the publications written by a father who him and his wife had had twins through IVF and his life was just so miserable and so terrible and wah-wah and he was whining about it and talking

about how much he regretted having these twins so I remember that well because that was right before we had twins ourselves so you see this kind of thing right this is a sentiment that people feel apparently increasingly comfortable expressing publicly. And there are a couple of points that come to mind when I see this. And when I read this guy's tweets in particular, first of all, he says he loves his child. Of course, I love my child. I love my son. But I wish he was never born. Well, okay, then you don't love your child. And this is something that people do where we We think of, you know, parent-loving their child as this sort of automatic thing. And so we assume that, well, everyone loves a child.

And so even if someone says, yeah, I love my child. I wish that he didn't exist. But I, of course, I love him. Well, then by definition, you don't love him. Sometimes you hear the same thing from women who abort their child. They say, well, I love my child, but it just wasn't the right time. No, you didn't love them. That is the opposite of loving them. So, no, this guy, you do not love you. You clearly do not love him. If you ever find yourself wishing that a person didn't exist,

it's not even, in some ways, this is even worse than wishing that someone was dead, as horrible as that is. As horrible as it is to even conceive of someone wishing that their child was dead, when someone regrets being a parent, well, what you wish is that this person, your child, never existed. You wish that you could negate their entire existence. So that's not love. Second thing is, let's be clear about this. It is 100% about weakness and selfishness on the part of this man and his wife, too, if she really does feel the same way. And that is only highlighted by the fact that he has one child. Okay, you have one.

You've got two adults versus one child. Now, look, there could be extenuating circumstances sometimes that make it especially difficult or challenging to have one kid. If there's severe medical problems or some other situation that can make that difficult. But he didn't mention anything like that. So it seems like this is just a normal situation. and in a normal situation with a healthy child, one kid is really not difficult at all. What are you doing whining about it? But parents that just have one kid, you hear this a lot, they'll constantly talk about how difficult, how hard it is, how difficult.

I mean, come, there are challenges involved in it, I know, but you got two parents versus one kid. How could you possibly, how overwhelming could have possibly, the two of you and one of you? him. How bad could it ever be? If you're feeling that overwhelmed by one kid, it just means, this is all that it means. It just means that you are completely unwilling to make even the slightest adjustments to your life. Because with one kid, you're going to have to make some sacrifices. You're going to have to make some adjustments, but not even the adjustments you make don't even have to be that serious. With one kid, you could basically continue living your life almost like you did before.

I mean, you could still go out pretty much whenever you want, just get a babysitter. I mean, to get a babysitter for one kid is not that expensive. You've got, you know, one parent or the other can always go out and get time to themselves, and the other parent can watch the one kid. You can bring one kid with you pretty much anywhere, and, you know, it's not a big thing. You take them to a restaurant. If the kid gets a little bit rowdy or something, you know, one of the parents can take them out for a minute. but when it's just one kid, you can do these things.

It's when you start getting more kids that then all of a sudden you really are changing your lifestyle considerably. So this is what jumped out of me is that if you're feeling this way with one kid, that just means that you are not willing to make any sacrifices. You don't want to change your life at all. That's how selfish you are. And yes, parenthood will be an awful, terrible, miserable thing

if you are totally unwilling to sacrifice. sacrifice. But if you can just get over the fact that you're going to have to make some adjustments in your life, if you can accept that and move on and accept the parameters of your new life, well, then there's a whole lot of joy to be discovered. But sadly, there are many parents who can't do that because they are so, so selfish and weak. You talk to the child. You talk to the to adults sometimes. In fact, I was talking to someone, somewhat recently about this very subject. And they told me that their own parents, this was an adult, they told me their own parents would tell them as they were growing up that they, the parents, wish that this person had never

been born. And you hear that sometimes. You know, adults who grew up with this, with parents who wish that they didn't exist. I mean, think about how weak and just selfish and narcissistic. You have to be. It's only getting every customer's order right. It's only a point of sale system connected by Spectrum fiber-powered business internet, helping you track hundreds of secure transactions. And it's all backed by 24-7 U.S.-based customer support and local technicians. It's only everything. business internet advantage free forever when you get four mobile lines from spectrum visit spectrum.com slash free for life to find out how restrictions apply services not available in all areas

especially if at no point you listen i remember when our um when our twins were born we had now we never had the experience of having one kid because we went right to twins and um and when our twins were born, I can distinctly remember that first night with the kids with us. And that was really overwhelming. That was like, that was a moment of what did we just do? But very quickly, even when it's such a huge change, when you go from, you know, a family with no kids to two right away, very quickly, I think for most people, you just, even though it's very, even though it's very challenging and challenging to have to have a newborn. And by the way, when I'm talking about how easy it is to have one kid, with the exception of the newborn stage, the newborn stage is,

it doesn't matter how many kids, one newborn, because of the sleeping factor, if your newborn isn't sleeping for six months, well, even if it is just one, that's going to be really, that is really hard. But that doesn't last forever. You get over that, you get past that stage pretty quickly. But, and even though it's very challenging, the newborn stage, specifically because of the sleeping thing. I mean, you're not getting sleep. That has an effect on you psychologically. There's no question about it. But even then, you quickly accept, right, for most people, you accept, well, this, okay, this is what my life is now. This is my new existence. And any thought of, I wish it wasn't like this or why did we do this,

all that stuff just kind of evaporates. It doesn't mean anything anymore because this is simply your life. Wherever you go, there you are, right? This is your life. But then there are parents who, I think for most parents, you accept your new existence very quickly, like within days. But then there are some parents who never do. They go years and they can never accept it. And that is nothing but selfishness and weakness. And that's what we should call it. I don't want to hear any of this, well, we have to be understanding of the, them and, you know, let's be sympathetic to them. No, I'm not sympathetic to them at all. Stop being weak, you coward. Be a man up. Get over yourself. Really? All right. I want to get to

some emails. You can always email the show. Matt Wall Show at gmail.com. Matt Wallshow atgumel. All right. I think we're going to do just one email in the interest of time here. Let me see if I can find the one that was interesting. Okay, this is from Joanna. She says, hi, Matt. I'm getting caught up all your podcast, went back to the beginning and I have been listening to most of them. I just listened to your podcast on the Flat Earth Theory. Those were from a few months ago. Have you seen the documentary behind the curve? It's all about the flat earth theory and its proponents. I found it very fascinating. I was wondering if you've heard of it slash seen it. Well, I hadn't heard of it or seen it. I got this email over the weekend. And I hadn't heard of it or seen it, Joanna,

until I read this email. And I was in a hotel. I was on the road over the weekend and looking for something to watch. So I took this suggestion and I watched this documentary about the flat earth theorists. And if you want to go watch it, behind the curve is what it's called. My God, it was really like gawking at a car wreck. In fact, it was like gawking at people who are gawking at a car wreck and arguing about whether or not an alien caused it. That's what it was like. It was disturbing, darkly hilarious, very interesting. but it made my faith in humanity plummet to an all-time low. And it was never that high to begin with.

So if you haven't seen it, this movie behind the curve, it's about the flat earth theorists, who we can't even really call theorists, right? The flat earth theory is not really a theory. Because for something to be a theory, as a scientist in the documentary explained, something has to, if something is a theory,

it needs to be falsifiable and not already falsified. And then I would add a third criterion that it needs to have a third criterion, that it needs to have explanatory power, meaning it has to sufficiently explain what we see occurring around us in order for it to really be a theory. But the flat earth thing has already been falsified for thousands of years, and thus it is no longer falsifiable. Like if you're going to reject the thousands of different falsifications of this insane idea and invent out of whole cloth

these cinematic conspiracies that explain everything away that you see, well, then it's graduated to something that is both falsified and unfalsifiable, which is peak crazy. When you've got something that's already been falsified, but it also can no longer be falsified anymore because of this fortification of conspiracy theory that you've erected, well, that's just, that's as crazy as it gets. And then also the flatter theory has no explanatory power. Because, for instance, it can't even explain something as simple as, well, when astronauts go into space, they can orbit the Earth in the International Space Station and see the globe. So your flat Earth theory has to be able to explain that and just saying, oh, no, they're lying. It's a conspiracy.

That's not an explanation. To reject reality is not a good explanation for reality. But I thought what made the documentary fascinating especially is just to see how these people get sucked into this crazy belief, how they justify it to themselves. And then this is, to me, was the most interesting part. It shows how the flat earthers are so addicted to conspiracy theories that they end up separating into factions and like denominations and then coming up with conspiracy theories about each other. So there's a there was a certain prominent flat earther, this kind of the

spokeswoman for flatter theory apparently. And other flat earthers have come up with a conspiracy theory that she is a CIA agent working for Warner Brothers for some reason or something like that. And this is just what they they love conspiracy theory so much. They just can't help. it. They make it about each other. There was an interesting moment in the documentary where that woman, I forget her, I think it was Patricia was her name. She was talking about these conspiracy theories that people have about her, including there are some people who think that she's a reptilian, alien creature, by the way, shape-shifter. And she was saying, there was just, there was this brief moment where you could see this glimmer of light. There was this moment of, of recognition

very briefly, where she said, I don't know, these people come up with crazy conspiracy theories about me. Is that what I'm doing? Am I like them? And then she quickly shook that off. I said, no, no, no, I'm different. I'm totally different. But there was that moment.

It almost dawned on her. Almost. It was very interesting. And the other thing I think that it shows is how people invent and maintain these conspiracy theories and also why they do so psychologically. And so it's interesting. I would go and it's, I think as a psychological portrait

of conspiracy theorists, it's worth watching. And the main thing you see about how conspiracy theories operate is, and you've probably already noticed this, from other conspiracy theories, but all they need is just one allegedly unexplained detail. Just one. And they can build an entire mythology out of that one tiny little gap in the official narrative,

even if it's not really a gap. So, for instance, the 9-11 truthers, the big thing for them, especially early on, was, well, jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel. And then that was all they needed. They were off to the races. And of course you say, well, but yes, it burns hot enough to weaken steel and then it collapses under its own weight.

But by the time you've already offered that correction, they're way over there. There's no getting them back. So with flat earthers, they have a couple little things like that where they say, oh, yeah, well, then what about this? And it's always something like, well, if I stand really far away from a city, I can still see the skyline, but if we're on a, if we're on a globe, then I shouldn't be able to see it because it should be on the other side of the globe.

And that's all the logic they need. And of course, you say, well, yes, but it's a really big globe. So you have to be really far away from the thing to not be able to see it. If you're only a couple of miles away, you'll still be able to see it. But it doesn't matter. All they need is just that one little excuse. and in that gap they can build this entire fantasy. Interesting to see it.

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