The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 22 - Boys Should Not Be Forced To Include Girls In Everything

Episode Date: May 3, 2018

The end of the Boy Scouts is just another symptom of a growing problem in America: boys are not allowed to have their own spaces. They are forced to include girls in everything. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

All right, everybody. You can see the very active background, the active setting. I'm in D.C. today, one of my least favorite places on Earth, but I had to be here. So here I am. All right, the process is now complete. The Boy Scouts, maybe you heard the news yesterday, the Boy Scouts, a once proud and important organization and an organization that used to help shape boys into men is now dead. It had been dying for some time now, but it is, I think it's officially a They made the announcement yesterday that, and it's an announcement that even 10 years ago would have seemed like some kind of outlandish, ridiculous parody. But now it's real. It's, it actually happened. The Boy Scouts said today that they're dropping, or yesterday I should say, that they're dropping boy from Boy Scouts. And they shall henceforth be known as the Scouts because, well, because we're including girls. So we can't exclude girls from the organization or from the name. And the Boy Scouts giving up their name. It's just the last and unavoidable step in, well, not even really the last step because there's more to come, I'm sure. But this is just the latest step in a process that's been in a devolution that's been happening for years now. And it began with, I think it really began in earnest when the Boy Scouts finally surrendered to the left on the issue of gay scouts. And they said, fine, we can have gay scouts.

And then the left came back and they said, okay, but you need to have gay scout leaders. And so the Boy Scouts said, fine. Then the left came back and they said, okay, but now you need to have trans genders. And the Boy Scouts said, fine, but please leave us alone after this. We're surrendering on this. I mean, this is it, right? You won't ask for more. And the left said, yeah, that's fine.

Once you just do this one last thing and that'll be it. And so they did it. And then the left came back the next day and said, oh, by the way, you need to admit girls now. And so the Boy Scouts always with that steely spine immediately said, okay, fine, we'll admit girls. And then they said, now you need to change your name because it's exclusionary. And they said, okay, fine, we'll change our name. And I have heard the argument.

Some people have said that, well, it's, yeah, they're admitting girls, but they're still going to separate boy and girl troops. So you're still going to have gender separated troops, but they're all going to be part of the same umbrella organization. And to that I say two things. Number one, it's irrelevant. The fact is that they're bringing girls into the Boy Scouts and abandoning their identity and their name for the sake of being inclusive and for the sake of being politically correct. And number two, I mean, have you really not noticed the pattern yet?

I mean, is it possible that you haven't noticed the pattern? Do you really think that that's going to be it? You really think that they're going to keep gender segregated troops at this point? No, of course not. Within like a year, the announcement's going to come that, okay, now everything is. is co-ed. I mean, everything. Camping trips, everything. This is, I mean, it's one, I, 100% guaranteed that it will happen. Now, I'm not going to let my sons anywhere near this embarrassment of an organization is, it's no longer equipped to provide the moral example that it once provided,

and the moral example that it was founded in order to provide. Remember, the Boy Scouts originally, it was supposed to be a Christian boys organization that was concerned not just with giving boys life skills and teaching them about the outdoors, but with forming them morally, moral formation. And ever since they started surrendering to the LGBT camp, once that began, then they'd already forfeited that aspect of their mission,

which is to say they forfeited their mission. But I think this thing with the Boy Scouts is an example, of a trend that's been going on for a long time. Well, two trends. One trend is organizations surrendering to the PC mob. So that's one. But the other trend is how we don't let boys have their own spaces anymore. Boys are not allowed to have their own things, you know, things that are just, just belong to them. This is the trend. We've gone through and we've gotten rid of all the spaces where boys used to come together and just be with each other and just be themselves. You know, I remember when I was a kid a long, long time ago, but I remember when this,

when the big thing, this whole process of, okay, we got to have co-ed everything. We've got to merge the genders into every activity. That's when it was kind of beginning. And so the big thing then was we got to include all the girls in all the sports. So every baseball team, every rec baseball team that I played on, there was a token girl on the team. Even though, or at least where I lived, there was also a perfectly fine girls softball league. And the girls could go there and they could play softball with the other girls. And it was great. So they did have, it's not like they didn't have sports they could play. They had a girls team. But some of the girls said, no, I want to be with the boys. And some of the parents said, no, that's where I want to be. And so, of course,

the league very quickly caved to that and said, fine. And the girls got to be on the team. But, you know, nobody ever stopped and asked the boys. No one ever asked the boys, hey, do you want to play with the girl? All that mattered was the girl wanted to play with the boys. It didn't matter if the boys wanted to play with the girl. It's what the girl wanted. And so she got to have it. So we started, you know, we started taking away all the boys' sports. So we got to include girls in it. Now, I remember even when I was in high school, we started seeing girls playing football, and so that's a thing now. And, of course, it's completely ridiculous.

And even when, I can think back even to recess in elementary school, if the boys got to a game of pickup basketball going or they're playing dodgeball, just the boys, and it was kind of a rough and fast game, very often you'd have the finger-wagging teacher who shows up and says, now, now, now, you got to include everybody. You got to include Rachel, too, which I get it. You got to teach kids to play together and everything like that. But sometimes you also have to just let the boys do their thing. Sometimes if the boys are having a game and it's a rough, it's a fast game,

you got to just let them play. Because you bring a girl into it and it, I mean, it ruins it. I'm sorry, it just does. In many cases, for the boys when they're playing a sport, when you say, when you require, when you insist, they have to include a girl, you're kind of ruining it. because girls are not as good as boys. They're not as athletic.

They're not as strong. They're not as aggressive. Just the fact of the matter. And the boys don't want to be as aggressive with them, with the girls, as they are with each other. So boys, especially if they're playing basketball or something, if there are no refs, then essentially every sport turns into tackle football

because they're just a whole part of the point when boys get together and they play a sport, probably half of the point for them is to kind of let out their aggression and just that physicality is a big and just clobber each other. That's a big part of the point. When you start injecting girls into it, well, they can't really, they don't feel right. They don't want to do that with girls and they shouldn't do that with girls. And so it just changes the dynamic. And this is what happens. When you, there are different, there's a dynamic. When you've got a bunch of boys together doing something. There's a certain dynamic. You've got a bunch of girls together doing something.

There's a certain dynamic. When you combine them, it changes the dynamic completely. And we've moved far beyond sports at this point, of course. Now this can be found everywhere in our culture. Girls are constantly breaking into the boys clubs. And they're always celebrated for their trailblazing achievement when they break into the boys club. They say, I'm in the boys club now. But what is the achievement exactly? The boys club was a boys club for a reason It's a club for boys. When you get rid of the boys qualifier, you have destroyed the club's entire purpose. So what's your achievement?

You've just ruined it is what you've done. And you can see it's not just with boys. It's even with men's lodges used to be a big thing. And now they either don't exist or they're not nearly as prevalent. Because even men, believe it or not, sometimes like to have places they can go where it's just themselves. but we say that's no longer permitted. And yet, even as we get rid of all these boy spaces, these boys' boy organizations,

we haven't gotten rid of the need that men have and boys have for that kind of male bonding. That's still there, especially for young men. And there's a reason why, there's a pretty good reason why boys don't want to include girls and everything, not just with sports, but even if they're just hanging out, or if they're in the woods,

for the Boy Scouts. Sometimes they don't want to include the girls, even in that context. And the reason is that adding a girl into the picture, as I said, it changes the dynamic. They feel like they have to tone things down. They have to feminize things for the sake of the girl. And now, even worse, there's this added pressure for the boys where they feel like they got to impress her. And they're not able to just enjoy themselves and relax and be themselves. Now in that free and open environment that exists between boys, now they got to

impress the girl. Everything now is about the girl. You got a group of boys, you inject one girl into it, and now everything is about her. And that's why you have girls sometimes who insist on being a part of the boy things. They want to do the boy things. They want to be in the boy organizations. They want to play the boy sports. They want to intrude on all the boy areas. I think most girls don't want that. They also want to have their own spaces, and they don't necessarily want to be surrounded by 50 boys, right? The girls who do want that, the reason they want it is because they know it's going to be all about them and they're going to get attention. It's attention seeking is what it is. When you've got a boy sport, girl sport, and almost everyone, you know, boys are playing the

boys sport, girls are playing the girls sport, everyone's having fun. And then you have that one girl who insists, no, I want to be in the boy sport. I want to be there. This is where adults have to come in and say, no, okay, it's what you want, but you can't have it. Let them have their, fun. This is over here for you. You can't have everything you want. I know you want to do it because you want them, you know, you want the attention, but you can't always have the attention you want. And I wonder, where are the adults sometimes to say, no, just let the boys have their time. Just let the boys, they're playing a game. Just let them have it. Let them play. Leave them alone. So when the, when the girl enters into the picture, then she becomes the kind of the focal point,

especially when you got younger boys, teenage boys especially, the girl becomes the focal point, because no matter how we think we live in this progressive enlightened age, but at the end of the day, the boys still see the girl as a girl, and they will treat her like that, and that's just human nature. It's not ever going to change. I know, and it's not just girls, too. Sometimes you hear women who will say, who will say,

I have a lot of guy friends, and when I'm hanging out with them, I'm just one of the guys. I'm just one of the guys. You hear that from women sometimes. And of course, you hear that and you think you don't want to say it out loud. I will now. But when you hear it, you think to yourself, no, you're not. You're not actually one of the guys. Maybe they may have told you that they see you that way, but they don't. They're lying to you. You're not one of the guys. Which is fine because you're a girl. And that's fantastic. But you're not one of the guys, just like they're not one of the girls. When you're hanging out with a group of guys, you're not one of them because you're not a guy. You don't have the same. same connection with the guys that they have with each other. You don't understand them the way that they understand each other. It's just, it's not the same bond. Now, if you marry one of those guys, then you will come to understand him and know him better than anyone else on earth, including

himself. I have no doubt that my wife knows me better than anyone. She knows me better than I know myself half the time. And through him, I think you'll start to understand men generally. but just a single woman as a member of a group of guys as just a friend. No, you don't have the same connection. You're not one of the guys. And it's just a different dynamic, which you might not realize because a woman is not going to observe the interaction between men unless she's a part of it, right, most of the time.

So she sees how they are when she's around and she assumes, well, this is how they are. They're just being natural. They're being themselves. Not quite. it does change when you're not there, just like it does with women. That's just a natural, natural thing. And then a woman might say, well, I cuss and spit and burp and wrestle around, wrestle around in the mud like guys.

I'm just like them. I'm just like them. Now, if that's actually true, and I find that probably 90% of the time when a woman makes this claim, that she's just like the guys and she's rough and tumble, probably 90 to 95% of the time, that's not true at all. But for the 5% to 10% of the time when it is true, here's the thing. When guys look at a woman imitating and kind of aping male behavior, they're going to think one of two things.

They're going to think either she's hot, so I'll play along, or two, this is sad and I wish she would stop. because the truth is, again, no matter what our progressive enlightened culture says, the truth is men don't want women to act like men. Men want women to act like women. They may pretend, they may say, oh, no, they may pretend to be completely egotarian and they don't see any difference between the genders. And they think it's just great when a woman behaves in this kind of masculine, manly way. They may pretend that they think it's cool and they think it's just awesome, but they don't. Even right now in the comments, there may be a guy who says,

who pretends and says, oh, no, I've got a group of friends who are girls and I don't see him any differently than I see the guys and I'm exactly the same with them as I am with the guys. No difference. He may claim that. But if it were just the two of us sitting in the car having a man-to-man conversation, he would be agreeing with everything I'm saying 100%. Men like it when women act like women. That's what they want out of a woman. They don't want a woman who tries to act like a man because there are men for that. If they wanted to talk to a man, be around a man, well, there are plenty of men in the world. But they rely on women to be women, just like I assume women rely on men to be men. We have this idea nowadays that men and women are exactly the same.

And so that's where we get this co-ed thing where everything has to be co-ed. Everything can be, we think that everything can be co-ed without losing anything in translation because we have this idea that men and women are exactly the same. And of course, they are not. And from there, we get this idea that men and women can be friends with each other in exactly the same way. They can be friends with members of the same sex in exactly the same way that they're friends with members of the opposite sex, which also is not true. This is just something.

It's like, I think for my generation, a lot of us, we got this idea from TV, because I know growing up in the 90s, a lot of the shows you watched on Nickelodeon or whatever else, this was a big thing they were pushing. And I feel like half of these shows, the main character would be like a preteen or teenage girl and her best friend in life is a boy. They're just partners in crime. There's no attraction there. They're just partners in crime, coming of age together, right? girl and boy. What was that show? I don't remember that.

What was the show in the 90s that everyone watched? Where it was a girl and her best friend was a boy and he would climb on a ladder. He would climb through her window to come visit her. And the parents were totally cool. Oh, Clarissa explains it all was the show. Now we're going to get into a whole 90s conversation. But that was one of the shows on Nickelodeon in the 90s. And the main character was this teenage girl and her best friend was a boy and they were just hanging out.

And so we got into our head that this is how it works in real life, but it's not really how it works. Guarantee, again, guaranteed you got a teenage boy, and he's claiming that his best friend is a girl, he's attracted to her. 10 times out of 10, 100% guaranteed. Now, when you get married, then your spouse really does become your best friend, your partner for life, and you have the closest, most intimate bond, obviously, hopefully, with your spouse. But before you're married and you're single, generally your closest bonds are going to be with members of the same sex. Your best friend, if you're a girl, it's going to be a girl. If it's a guy, it's going to be a guy.

That's natural. That's just the way it goes. Because, again, you just have a different connection with those people because you understand them, because they're just like you. And that's why it's so important to allow girls and boys to have their own spaces. Girls, too. I don't mean to leave them out. It's just that, number one, I'm not a girl. so I can't speak to that as much.

Number two, I think girls are already allowed to have their own spaces. With one big exception, of course, we know that girls are not allowed to have their own locker rooms and bathrooms anymore, which is insane and dangerous. But even there, you notice that the price of entry for a boy, if he wants to get into the girl spaces, is he has to pretend that he is a girl. Whereas for the boys, no, girls can come in and there's no charade. They don't have to pretend they're a boy. It's just the boys are not allowed to have that.

So girls need to have their own spaces too. Fortunately, I think they are allowed for the most part to have their own spaces. And also, boys generally don't have the desire or the urge to intrude into female spaces. If there are a bunch of girls sitting around having a conversation or doing something, most guys aren't going to say to themselves, oh, I got to go be a part of that. What they're more likely to say is, oh, okay, all the girls are contained over here. Let's go over here and do something else. So you don't find in guys this desire to be seen as one of the girls.

You're not often going to find a guy bragging that I'm just one of the girls, just like him. Even in our enlightened age, if a guy went around saying that he would be ridiculed, rightly so, by his male friends. Maybe that'll change as we become even more enlightened. But as of right now, that's how it goes, because it's natural. So let's all just give each other some space, right? I think we could all use it, is my point.

All right, that's it for me. Thanks for listening. Godspeed, everybody.