The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 354 - Court Sanctioned Child Abuse

Episode Date: October 22, 2019

A court ruled in favor of a mother who wants to force her son to be a girl. We'll take a look at this horrific case and talk about its implications. I will try not to scream too much. Also, two colleg...e students have been charged with the crime of "ridicule" for using a racial slur. Yes, really. Date: 10-22-2019 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am going to try my level best here. I'm going to really try, folks. I will attempt to remain calm to not start screaming as we discuss this story, but I must admit that I am fairly seething with a deep and primal rage at the moment. Now, if you watch this show, you know that the thing that sets me off more than anything else, the thing that sends me into spasms of anger on this show is when children are hurt, exploited, abused. And you might say, well, obviously, that upsets you. That upsets everybody. Well, it should, shouldn't it? But it doesn't. I shouldn't have to sit here and say,
Starting point is 00:00:49 I really hate child abuse. I'm against it. That shouldn't be the kind of thing that you even need to talk about on a show like this, because it should be something we all agree on. Should be a position we all share, so that talking about it would be redundant and unnecessary. But, guys, we live in a country where, in fact, lots of people and lots of powerful people, as we will see in a minute, are fully in favor of child abuse. In many forms, they're in favor of killing children in the womb.
Starting point is 00:01:24 And if the child manages to escape the womb with his children, is life intact, then these same people, these disgusting, monstrous scumbags will set to work, attempting to destroy the child emotionally, psychologically, through all manner of physical and emotional and psychological and sexual abuse and exploitation. There are many people, and again, many powerful people in our country who see children as objects that can be exploited and used or just discarded if you don't want them. That's the backdrop here as we get into the topic at hand. And the topic at hand is the case of James Younger, a seven-year-old boy, son of Jeff Younger and, quote-unquote, mother, and Georgilus.
Starting point is 00:02:14 And Georgilus, by the way, is not only the quote-unquote mother, but she's also a, quote-unquote, doctor. A pediatrician, of all things. now um so let's uh let let's let's let's let's let's let's back up here uh and do some background on on this case um jeff and anne and i guess i'm i'm just going to use their first names here as we talk about it just because it's easier so jeff and anne were um married but ended up getting divorced actually i think it might have been an annulment i'm not sure don't quote me on that but in any case the marriage ended one way or another and um as is usually the case uh with with these sorts of things, the quote-unquote mother was given most of the rights over the child
Starting point is 00:02:58 because that's the sort of default position that the courts have, that family courts have most of the time, where they're just going to assume that the mother is the more fit parent because she's a woman. But remember, women are the ones who are legally oppressed in this country. Remember that. Anyway, the mother is given most of the power over the child. Eventually, the mother decides that the boy James is actually a girl named Luna. Now, remember that James right now is seven years old. So he's very, very young. But this all started a few years ago. In fact, he was three years old when it started. He was three when the mother decided that he was a girl. Do you want to know how the quote-unquote mother made this discovery? Well, an article
Starting point is 00:03:52 in the Texan explains it. So here's a quote from the Texan article says conflict arose in the next few years and their marriage was eventually annulled. While the court, okay, so it was an annulman. All right. While the court made the parents' joint managing conservators, Georgialess was given exclusive rights and duties while younger's were limited. Georgilis says that James first wanted a girl's toy from McDonald's, and soon after starting, and soon after started imitating the female characters from Disney's Frozen and asked to wear dresses. She says she then contacted the Genesis Clinic at Children's Hospital Center, and they referred to referred her to Rebecca Ower for counseling.
Starting point is 00:04:43 And then that person recommended a process of affirmation. And they thought that a social transition for James to begin going to school dressed as a girl named Luna would be in his best interest. So that's how the quote-unquote mother figured out that little James is really just a shell. James really didn't exist, it turns out. James was a shell. He was a James shell, but trapped inside that shell of a body was this little girl named Luna who was just itching to get out. This is science, by the way.
Starting point is 00:05:21 This is all science. And she figured that out because James wanted a girl toy from McDonald's. Oh, and he also likes the movie Frozen. Well, that's it then. That settles it. Eureka. I mean, there couldn't possibly be any other explanation for why this boy was interested in a Disney film. Couldn't possibly be any other explanation. He must really be a girl. I said I wasn't going to scream. Let me pull back a little bit. Now, of course, by this standard, literally every other, every boy by this standard is a girl. And every girl's a boy. Because every, every girl is a boy. Because every, every, every boy is interested in some things that are associated with girls and every little girl is interested in some things that are associated with boys. So if that's the case, then every girl's a boy,
Starting point is 00:06:16 every boy's a girl, nothing means anything. What does it even matter in that case? And by the way, I thought we were done gendering toys, right? I thought there was no such thing as a girl toy or a boy toy. Wasn't that the whole thing with Target where they stopped, they didn't have the girl toy aisle or the boy toy aisle anymore? because whether you're a boy or girl, you can play with any toy. I thought that was the point. But now you're saying that if a boy plays with a toy that's associated with girls, it's really an indication that he actually is a girl trapped in a boy's body. So have you not just then reaffirmed the gendering of toys?
Starting point is 00:06:56 Except for the quote-unquote mother, there was a hiccup. Because when James went to his father's house, he was still identifying as a boy. Imagine that. and going by the name James and wearing boy clothes and all of that because he is a boy and he wants to be a boy. The quote-unquote mother couldn't have that. She couldn't allow the father to interfere with the abuse of the child. That she was, you know, she really had been putting a lot of effort into abusing this child and she didn't want the father interfering with that. So eventually it goes to the courts.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Both parents fighting essentially for sole custody and the court just ruled. yesterday. This is in Texas, remember, in Texas. The court ruled yesterday against the father. The mother is now given basically sole power and authority. The father will not be, will probably not get any unsupervised visits with his own son, who I guess the court believes is really his daughter. And the mother can now, if she wants, start the process of chemically castrating the boy. She can now force him to live full-time as a girl, and she can poison him with chemicals to permanently alter his body so that she can live out her fantasies.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Fantasies that she has imposed on her child. Well, actually, not really her child. That's the icing on the cake here. I've been calling her the quote-unquote mother because she is an abusive monster and does not deserve to be called the mother. She is not a mother. She is not acting like one. She is not, this is not how mothers behave.
Starting point is 00:08:39 She doesn't deserve. So it's only for lack of a better term that I use this term, mother, for her. But it's also worth noting that actually, technically, she isn't even biologically the mother. The child was conceived with a donor egg. She isn't even biologically related to this kid. And yet she has been given the power to do. what she wants to him and with him. It's amazing. Now, it's true that James doesn't really want to be a girl. This identity has been foisted on him by this despicable lunatic who fashions herself a mother.
Starting point is 00:09:22 And I want you to understand, I'm being very harsh in the way that I describe this woman, but that's because what she is doing is pure evil. And if we lived in a country where things made sense, and where there was justice, and where we cared about protecting children, this person would be locked in prison for the rest of her life because that's where she deserves to be. This is a very, very bad person. And this is, as I have always argued,
Starting point is 00:09:53 this is a form of not just emotional and physical and psychological abuse, although as if that's not enough, it is also sexual abuse. Okay? in the most fundamental way, because you are sexually manipulating a child. In fact, I want you to listen to this. The father was on a podcast recently. He was on the Luke Macias podcast, which you can hear if you go to Lukemasias.com,
Starting point is 00:10:17 M-A-C-I-A-A-S dot com. That's how you pronounce the last name. It's a long interview worth listening to. But I want to play one part where he talks about how this started, what the mother did to James. And in fact, right before we play this clip, or actually right before this clip that I'm going to play, Jeff, because he's talking about what this person did. And he says that there were various tools of manipulation she would use in order to create gender confusion in her innocent and helpless son. One of the things she would do, apparently, according to Jeff, is she would lock the kid in a room. and tell him that there's a monster in there that only eats little boys.
Starting point is 00:11:08 She would do that with him when he was three years old. And there was much more to it than that. Listen to what Jeff Younger, the father has to say. During the temporary orders period, when we are waiting to go to final trial and we're going through the endless motions before the associate judge, my three-year-old son tells me he's at my home. tells me that he's a girl. And I had the presence of mine, thank goodness, to pull up my
Starting point is 00:11:42 iPhone and videotape me asking him about that. And that was literally the first time that I really understood what was happening to my son. And what did you gather from that first conversation with him? His mother was telling him that he was a girl. She was dressing him as a girl. She was putting nail polish on him and encouraging him to act like a girl. And my personal assessment, this isn't from James and my personal assessment, was that she was only giving him love and affection if he acted like a girl. And that was the first time I noticed. He was just past his third birthday. Three years old. Three years old. So it's obvious that James doesn't really identify as a girl. He's been forced into this. This is something that has been done to him by that nurse ratchet of a mother.
Starting point is 00:12:34 that he has been cursed with. But here's the thing. It wouldn't matter. Even if he did really authentically identify as a girl, it would make no difference. Or it should make no difference to the case. If this wasn't being forced on him the way that it is, that would make the mother maybe less of an evil scumbag. But it wouldn't change the reality. And the reality is that no matter what the child says, the child who doesn't understand what's going on,
Starting point is 00:13:12 and can't possibly understand, the reality is that he is a boy, period. He is a boy, not a girl. He doesn't know what a girl is. He doesn't really know what a boy is. He doesn't understand what it means to transition. He doesn't understand the consequences. He doesn't understand anything because he's a child. He is just a confused child. And whatever he says about I'm a girl, I'm a boy, these are confused statements from a naive and innocent little kid who doesn't know what the hell is going on because how could he? So in some ways as we as we talk about, well, you know, does he want to be a girl? Does he want to be a boy? and it seems like that's what the case really boiled down to.
Starting point is 00:14:01 But that just shows you, that just shows you how crazy things have gotten. Because it's starting from a false premise. It doesn't, to argue over what does he want, that would seem to grant the premise to begin with that a child can potentially choose his own gender, which he can't anyway, no matter what he wants. But the fact that he doesn't even want this, in the first place just makes it, I suppose, all the worse. You know, when you follow this case,
Starting point is 00:14:32 you really begin to see, well, you see a few things. You see that we are screwed as a society. I hate to say it. This case, I don't think people really understand just how monumental this case is. It's gotten a fair amount of attention, at least in conservative circles. It should be getting a lot more attention than it actually is, though. However much attention it's getting, we should be much more focused on this than we are. Because we are crossing now a threshold with the court making a ruling like this. In Texas of all places, can you imagine now cases like this in California or Washington State or New York or New Hampshire? Can you imagine if this woman could get this ruling out of a Texas court
Starting point is 00:15:25 imagine what a similarly monstrous parent could achieve in a court, in a state that's already crazy liberal to begin with. But the other thing that you see illustrated is the fact that transgender children are really a symptom of Munchausen by proxy. And I think this case is a, you couldn't find a better illustration of that. Munchausen by proxy is when parents pretend. that their children are sick or they make the child sick in order to get attention or pity or whatever else they want. They did. There was the HBO miniseries, what was it called,
Starting point is 00:16:07 Sharp Objects based on a book. Amy Adams came out last year and it revolves. That might be a spoiler actually. I might have just spoiled it for you. Sorry about that. Anyway, but it's, revolves around around this thing where you've got a parent and this and this happens in life, not just in movies, where you have some sick and twisted evil parents who I think oftentimes ends up being a mother who does this for whatever reason, but they make their kids sick. And it's all just the most twisted form of emotional manipulation. You're sort of using the child as bait, dangling the sick child out there, a child that you made sick so that you can get whatever you want out of the world. Essentially cashing him in as social capital. That's what this mother
Starting point is 00:16:57 has been doing. This mother for years has been making this child sick. She has infused gender dysphoria into his head. She has caused it in order to achieve whatever it is she hopes to achieve for herself. And that's one of the reasons why I feel no compunction about being very harsh in my approach to this woman because there is no way in hell, especially when you consider she's a pediatrician, God help us. There is no way in hell she actually believes this nonsense about how there's a daughter trapped inside her son's body. There's no way she really believes that. No one who understands anything about science, anyone who has any medical training. There is no way you possibly believe that, especially when you as the mother know that you have been working on this with the kid practically
Starting point is 00:17:54 since he was born. So this is not a case of an unfortunately confused and misled mother. No, that's not what this is. But you see how strong the biological impulse is that this, in some ways it makes it even sadder, that this poor boy has been resisting this for years. And think about that. Think about what that requires. This has been for years now, since he was three years old, his mother's been trying to brainwash him. But still, when goes to his father's house, it's like he's relieved that he can finally take off the freaking dress and dress like a boy and go and roll around in the mud and do what boys do. He still has that impulse. Now, eventually he will lose it. And this is what will happen. After all of this
Starting point is 00:18:48 brainwashing, and then they're going to start him on the drugs, and they're going to chemically castrate him. And so, you know, 10, 15 years from now, if you talk to this child, who now will be an adult, he'll tell you about how he identifies as a woman and this is who he is deep inside and he's known it since he was a little kid and everything. This is really who he is. That's what he'll tell you, because that's what he'll think about himself. People who are brainwashed don't know they've been brainwashed. But the other thing is that even 15 years from now, when he is insisting that about himself, that he's really a woman. and he's always known this and everything, he still is going to be deeply in misery and depressed. Because this is transgender people have massively high rates of suicide. They have lower life, they have shorter life expectancies and all of that. And for all we hear about, oh, it's because of bullying and because they're not accepted in society.
Starting point is 00:19:53 No, that's not it. It's because these are people who struggle at such a basic, level to accept themselves for who they really are. And there is a lot of misery and pain that comes with that. And this mother has put that on her child. All right. I almost succeeded in talking about that without screaming. I did the best I could. I just, I hope that, look, this is, I don't know what can be be done about this. But I think that the same people in the government down there in Texas, if they can step in, they need to. Or at the very least, guys like Ted Cruz and Governor Abbott, they need to speak up and say something about this case,
Starting point is 00:20:48 even if they can't do anything about it, just speak up and defend this child. I know there are a lot of people down there in Texas, a lot of people in the community that have been speaking out and protesting. I think more people need to. And people in positions of power there need to speak up. We're at a point now where if you are a sane, decent person and you know better, and you know that this is crazy and you understand what's happening to these children, you need to speak up. You can't stay silent anymore. You just can't. All right. Let's move on. We'll see what else we've got going on here. So there was this case. The New York Post is reporting a case out of the University of Connecticut. Let me read
Starting point is 00:21:36 let me read a little bit of the University of Connecticut or the New York Post report. It says two white students at the University of Connecticut were arrested for shouting racial slurs as they walked through a parking lot outside student apartments earlier this month, according to a report. The suspects, 21-year-old students Jared Carroll and Ryan Mukaj, I don't know how to pronounce his last name, were arrested by campus police Monday after they were captured on a a viral video repeatedly shouting the N-word. Students launched large rallies in protests of the video. In the campus chapter of the NWAACP, demanded school officials take action against the pair. The arrests of Karel and Mukaj were announced hours after a march against racism. Now get this. These two guys who were each charge, they were charged, I'm quoting now, charged with ridicule on account of creed, religion, color, denomination, nationality, or race.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Police who investigated the case discovered the two students walked through the woods, through the apartment complex, playing a game in which they yelled vulgar words and there was another student, was with them and didn't participate in the game. Okay. Charged with ridicule. Actually, back up for a second. So you've got these two guys walking down campus, shouting bad words, playing a game. Stupid game. I'm sure we all agree. but it's just a game and they're just joking.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Inappropriate, fine. You want to say it's offensive, fine. But that's what it is. Before we even get to the fact that they were arrested in charge with a crime, you had marches and rallies about what? Because two kids walking down the street were shouting bad words. What do you need to march against? Yeah, everyone agrees that it's,
Starting point is 00:23:38 not good that they did that. So what are you, what of all the things, activism in this country has become so completely frivolous. And you see how desperate people are for a cause. You know, people need a cause to believe in and to fight for. And if you're not going to fight for real causes and for things that really matter, then you're stuck with something like this. Let's take to the streets and march because two guys on the campus said a bad word. My God. Now, but that's, that's even, that's just besides the point because the real issue here is that the police got involved and charged them with ridicule. Did you know that that was even a crime you could be charged with, ridicule? If that's a criminal offense, then every single person in America should be in jail,
Starting point is 00:24:42 because everybody in America has engaged in ridicule at some point in their life. Just go on Twitter right now. Go to Twitter and all of those people, arrest all of them. Every single person with a Twitter account, because that's the only reason Twitter exists, to ridicule people. Charge with a crime. So the First Amendment doesn't exist, basically, is what we're learning. This is just free speech, First Amendment doesn't exist. If you can be charged with a crime for ridiculing.
Starting point is 00:25:15 And the thing is, it wasn't even ridicule. They weren't even, it's not even like, you can't say, oh, it was harassment. They weren't harassing it. They weren't talking to anyone. They were literally just shouting into the thin air. Again, you can, you could say it's stupid, it's offensive, it's fine, I agree with you on that. but who are they ridiculing aside from themselves? If this is illegal, then the First Amendment doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:25:47 You don't, what function does the First Amendment even serve? If the First Amendment doesn't cover this, then what do you even have it for? Because the whole point, as many people have pointed out, and as always needs to be pointed out with cases like this, you only need the First Amendment. to protect offensive speech that nobody likes. Because if it's in an unoffensive speech that no one cares about or everyone agrees with, then you don't need a First Amendment at all. You don't need to specially protect that kind of speech. In fact, you could go anywhere, you could go to North Korea and say stuff that people there
Starting point is 00:26:32 will agree with and like. Now, what people will agree with and the kind of speech people will like, that's going to change depending on where you are. But you can go anywhere in the world and say things that are culturally appropriate, according to the culture that you happen to be in at the moment. And many of those places, like North Korea, for example, don't have free speech protections. Because in those places they don't have free speech, what they're saying is, yeah, you can say culturally acceptable things, but that's all you can say.
Starting point is 00:27:08 You can't say anything that's culturally unacceptable, and that's why we don't have a First Amendment. in that country. So that's what it is. So if you say, oh yes, but it's offensive and horrible, yeah, agreed, agreed, agreed, I agree with all of that. But yes, you can say offensive and horrible things. We act like free speech is this really complicated, complex, really nuanced subject. And maybe there are
Starting point is 00:27:39 some nuances to it, yes, but it's not that hard to understand. And for me, when I look at how, the First Amendment is written, not the language and the spirit of it, what it was meant to do, it's pretty clear to me that the First Amendment is supposed to give you the right to say, whatever you want, provided you are not defaming or slandering someone, or otherwise is trying to directly cause physical harm to another person. So the example of shouting fire in a crowded theater.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Of course, you can't do that unless there is a fire. But if there isn't, you can't do that. That is going to directly cause harm to people. It could cause harm from the stampede of people running out of the theater. It'll cause harm to the business that you've just caused all these people to go running out. So yes, that's going to cause. direct harm. But other than that, you can say whatever you want. That's the way it should be. And there's no real downside. So you think about what's the downside? So we have to compare.
Starting point is 00:28:53 On one hand, you could have a crime against ridicule and arrest people for it. Or you could say, well, basically say whatever you want as long as you're not directly causing harm to another person. What's the downside to that first plan? Having a crime against, having a law against ridicule. Well, the plus side is, I guess you're protecting people's feelings. Okay. The downside is you have created this subjective law where the people in power get to decide because what counts as ridicule. You would talk about hate speech. I was talking about this on Twitter and some people were saying, oh, what are you? What do you? You support hate speech now? No, I don't support hate speech.
Starting point is 00:29:45 in the sense of supporting the content and advocating that people engage in it, whatever it is. But that's the point. What is it? Something like ridicule, hate speech, that is subjective. It's going to depend on your perspective. So you can have a crime against ridicule.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Plus side is protect people's feelings, some people's feelings, sometimes. Downside is, now you have given this authority to people in power to subjectively determine what they consider to be hate speech and ridicule, and then to clamp down on speech by that standard. On the other hand, we could say, let's not do that, and let's let's let people say whatever they want
Starting point is 00:30:35 as long as they're not directly causing harm to another person. Plus side is, now we've got free speech. We live in a free country. People are protected in their ability to express themselves. what's the downside? Downside is people are going to be allowed to say some tasteless things, some crass and crude things, and it might be kind of annoying to listen to, and it might even hurt your feelings. That's the downside.
Starting point is 00:31:01 So on one hand, the downside is tyranny. On the other hand, the downside is hurt feelings. Which one? Which is the better course of action? It seems obvious to me. All right. I guess I got to be careful now doing this show. If ridicules against the law, I might be, I got to be honest. I'm probably in a lot of trouble. Let's go to emails, Matt Wall Show at gmail.com. Mattwell's show at gmail.com.
Starting point is 00:31:37 This is from Trevor says, your tweets about pit bulls are what I expect from leftists. Should we ban guns too? Your arguments against pit bulls are the exact arguments leftists use. You need to get off this crusade because you're embarrassing. yourself. Pit bulls don't kill people. Bad owners do in all caps. Raise your pit bull right, and it's not a problem. Hi, Trevor. Yes, Trevor references a back and forth on social media between me and a bunch of pit bull owners who are famously a pretty irrational bunch, no offense. It's just that when it comes to social media mobs, I found that Beyonce fans are the most irrational, and then a close second would be pit bull owners.
Starting point is 00:32:22 It kind of goes like that. And then probably Star Wars fans are right after. That's sort of the unholy trinity of irrational Twitter mobs. I don't remember what started this particular round of argument on the subject. I think it was, yeah, it was, okay, it was, I saw a tweet that someone posted. And pit bull owners are always doing this. It's the dumbest argument where they go, oh yeah, pit bulls are real aggressive, huh? Well, look at this dangerous beast.
Starting point is 00:32:47 And then it's a picture of their pit bull, you know, acutely snuggling on a furry carpet next to a fireplace. As if that somehow proves that pit bulls are safe, as if a picture of a pit bull not killing people proves that pit bulls don't kill people. As if the cuteness of an animal somehow correlates with its relative safety. Now, if that's true, then grizzly bears, I guess, are the safest animals in the world.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Oh, you think grizzly bears will eat your face? Well, look at this picture of a grizzly bear, not eating anyone's face. Checkmate. Just really dumb. Here's the statistical reality. And you can go ahead and you can Google this in fact, check me. Don't take my word for it.
Starting point is 00:33:34 By far, by far, the most lethal breed of dog in the country is the pit bull. They kill more people than any other breed of dog. not close. They win that horrible competition by a landslide. And that's not even counting all the people who are mauled by pit bulls and don't die. There's information on the website dogbitelaw.com. You can go check it out. It has a report showing that in many parts of the country, pit bulls not only lead in mauling deaths, but they also lead in dog bite incidents at all, period. So they bite the most people and they're the most likely to kill you when they do bite you. And this says nothing of all the other dogs that are attacked by pit bulls, which is far more
Starting point is 00:34:18 common even than that. Let me read a quick email from someone else who sent me on this subject. Someone who worked at an animal shelter. This is from Aaron. This is what she had to say. She said, I'm a registered veterinary technician from California. I worked at a municipal animal shelter where we received the bite dogs to either keep until their rabies hold was up.
Starting point is 00:34:39 or to euthanize if the owners wanted. A rabies hold is the period of time a dog is kept under observation to ensure the dog doesn't have any rabies symptoms if no rabies vaccine is on file. Bight dogs, in quotes, come in many breeds in sizes, but the worst. Always the very worst bites were bully breeds. It was absolutely terrifying the damage those dogs can and will do.
Starting point is 00:35:01 I used to advocate for them, and I was staunchly against breed specific legislation, but after seeing the damage they do, I wish they would breed them all out. Multiple times a week we receive reports of these four-legged terrorists ripping apart other animals, and generally once a week there was a tragic human incident. There's no reason for this. There are dozens of other breeds out there. Why are people so weird about bully breeds?
Starting point is 00:35:27 And that's the thing about pit bulls. It's not just that they're naturally aggressive, though they are. It's that they're built biologically to inflict maximum damage. Okay. That's, this is, this is also why it's dumb to own many other kinds of animals. You see people who, who have pythons as pets. Now, pythons can be temperamental, but that's not even the main point. The point is, because they're snakes, but the point is that they are built to be killing machines. That's the problem. And you hear these tragic cases of a pet python killing a child or whatever. Doesn't happen that, all that. often, but it does happen. And since it's an animal, this is an animal we're talking about, right? So you can never really know how they're going to react or what's going on inside their head. You can't reason with them and you can't really ever trust them completely because you don't know what, nobody really understands animal psychology. Nobody really understands human psychology all the way.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Forget about animal psychology. So when you have a pit bullies, I have a pit bull will never do that. My pit bull's a sweetie. You don't know what the hell your pit bull is thinking. You have no idea. You have no clue. Yes, you could have general sort of confidence that a particular dog is safe. But you can't know for sure about any dog. And you might say, well, then what are you saying? We should just get rid of all dogs. No, I'm saying that because you can never be sure with an animal, an animal is an animal. That's why it's probably best not to bring animals into your home
Starting point is 00:37:13 that could kill somebody if they wanted to. There's just no good reason to do that. Okay, so we'll do this exercise again. On the one hand, we have all the stats proving beyond any doubt that pit bulls are the most dangerous breed of dog. We have all the news stories of pit bulls mulling children to death. We have all the other dogs that have been mulled and killed by pit bulls. And that's why you shouldn't own them. As far as why you should, on the other hand, I mean, what to outweigh all of that statistical information, what can you possibly present? What's the argument for owning them? I'm not talking about an argument that attempts to rationalize or get around or evade the points that I just made. What is a positive? What is a
Starting point is 00:38:04 positive, affirmative argument for why it is good to own them. Because they're cute, because you like them. It's just, it's not a, it's, there's no good reason for it. Now, Trevor, as for your arguments, such as they are, you say, uh, the argument against pit bulls is like making an argument against gun rights. This is enormously stupid, but I hear it from pit bull people all the time. It is such a bad argument. First of all, guns are inanimate obfews. They don't have minds of their own. They're not going to hop over your fence and go and shoot your neighbor's kid on their own. That's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Dogs are not inanimate objects. They are animals with minds. Minds that we don't fully understand. So this analogy just doesn't work. The fact that dogs are not inanimate objects and are animals that cannot always be 100% controlled is the point. So to bring up some inanimate object that has to be directly operated by another person, completely misses the point. Second, you don't have a constitutional right to own whatever animal you want.
Starting point is 00:39:11 So that's another reason why that analogy doesn't work. If there was such a constitutional right, then you'd be able to own bears and tigers and chimps and any law against that would be unconstitutional, which obviously would be crazy. So you say pit bulls don't kill people, bad owners do. Now, that's wrong. Pit bulls definitely do kill people. They do. That's just a fact. Now, there might be pit bull owners who also kill people, but that's a separate subject. The fact is pit bulls kill people. Pit bulls are living creatures. They aren't robots. They aren't remote control toys. Pit bulls kill people on their own. Yes, they do. To the bad owner thing. Okay, and you hear this too. This is the other common rationalization. Oh, pit bull's, it's all about the owner. Sure, I agree that a pit bull with a bad owner is going to probably be more dangerous. than a pit bull with a good owner. But how do you ensure that the owners are good? What does it mean to be
Starting point is 00:40:10 a good owner? And how do you ensure that? Are we doing yearly checkups to make sure that the owner is still doing everything he's supposed to do? How could you possibly know? There might be some basic red flags you could look for. Like, has this person been convicted of dog fighting before? Okay, well, then yeah, sure. That's probably not someone that should get a pit bull. But other than that, if it's just a normal looking person coming in to adopt a pit bull, how are you supposed to know if they're good or not? And besides, isn't it really foolish and reckless and insane to bring an animal into your home who might rip you apart limb from limb if you are not fully attentive to it all the time and a perfect owner in every way? people tell me you just got to get pit bulls a lot of attention okay but if you don't give them attention then what they'll kill something yeah i agree yes if you have one give it attention do all
Starting point is 00:41:08 that stuff but the the problem is that the downside to not being a great owner is immense and it's not fair to put your community in that position where we have to pay the price if you fail as an owner. Now, if somebody owns a poodle and they're not a great poodle owner, then what does the community have to deal with? They have to deal with that yapping dog, which is pretty annoying. And worst case, the dog bites somebody and it hurts and there's a little bit of a mark and, you know, and that's it. That's the worst case with a poodle. If you were to compare all of the people, all of the humans in history who have been killed by poodles, I doubt it would even add up to how many people that the pit bulls kill in one year.
Starting point is 00:42:00 So that's the issue. Other kinds of dogs, if you have a owner who isn't great, that's not good. But the price the community will have to pay is relatively negligible. The problem, though, with a pit bull is the price the community has to pay if you're not raising the dog right is potentially fatal. And so maybe it's best just to not bring those animals into a community. Just choose from any of the other dog breeds. You don't need that one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:42 This is from Kyle, says, Dear Matt, I wanted to get your opinion on a recent experience. I had the gas station. I've honestly never run into this, but my wife said it happens to her regularly, and I wanted to get your thoughts. I was at a gas station with my family, and every pump was occupied. I chose one where I thought the car ahead of me was about to leave, but the occupant started walking in the direction of the convenience store. He looked at my car sitting in a position where my intention to put gas in my car could not be misunderstood, and I firmly believe he started walking slower. In shock and desperation, I looked at the next pump where the man was carefully washing every single glass surface on the outside of his car with the squeegee.
Starting point is 00:43:16 And he wasn't simultaneously pumping gas. I could not believe the level of rudeness these two people exhibited. I have less issue with either of these activities if the gas station is empty or even if you're trying to kill two birds with one stone while pumping gas at the same time but doing it while you're watching people wait for a pump is outrageous.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Would this crime be worthy of the death penalty when you are a supreme dictator? Yes, Kyle, to go... First of all, I'm sorry you had to go through that and so you have my condolences. To go to the convenience store after you've already pumped the gas when all the pumps are full, rather than just drive to the actual parking spots,
Starting point is 00:43:59 because every gas station with a convenience store attached also has its own parking spaces that are not next to pumps that you could just drive over to. But because you don't feel like doing that, leaving your car in the spot while it's busy is beyond the bounds of human decency. I completely agree with you, Kyle. Sociopathic does not even begin to describe it, honestly. There is no excuse. it should go without saying if it's a busy gas station, you pump your gas and you get the hell out.
Starting point is 00:44:28 You don't pass go, collect 200, you don't do any of that. Pump your gas, get out. You don't squeegee, you don't go to the convenience store, you don't start clearing out all the old Pepsi bottles and coffee cups from the floor of your passenger side. You don't do any of that. You don't sit there and text on your phone, pump, and go. I agree with you, Kyle. This should be understood common practice. But, you know, there are people who are barbarians in this society, Kyle.
Starting point is 00:45:05 As for penalties under my regime, if you go into the store and you leave your car there, when you come out to your car, it will be doused in gasoline and it will be on fire. and it will be on fire. And then you will be expected to pay for the additional gasoline that had to be used in order to torch your car. And then, you know what's coming next, you are going to be thrown into the fire.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Now, you might argue that this will only slow the process down more now that we've had to do an execution via fire in the middle of the gas station. You might also argue that it could be, dangerous, that we have this huge fire, right next to a bunch of gas pumps. But listen, these are sacrifices that I would be willing to make to see that justice is done. And I want you to know that. You have my solemn promise that I will go to any lengths as long as I am not personally inconvenienced by it to see that justice is done. Vote for me. And we will leave it there.
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