The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 504 - Atlanta Riots Over Justified Police Shooting Of An Armed, Violent Man

Episode Date: June 15, 2020

Today on the Matt Walsh Show, another police shooting has sparked protests. But while the Left, Democrats, and protesters put all the blame on the police officer as usual, I think we need to start ask...ing some questions about the personal responsibility of the suspects in these situations. Are they not responsible for their own behavior? Also Five Headlines including a “Black Trans Lives Matter” protest over the weekend. What was the point of this protest and why was it needed? It wasn’t needed, and I’ll explain why. Plus our Daily Cancellation and much more.  If you like The Matt Walsh Show, become a member TODAY with promo code: WALSH and enjoy the exclusive benefits for 10% off at https://www.dailywire.com/walsh Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today on the Matt Wall Show, another police shooting has sparked protests. This happened over the weekend, but while the left Democrats and protesters put all the blame on the police officer, as per usual, I think we need to start asking some questions about the personal responsibility of the suspect in these cases. That's an especially pertinent question in the latest shooting that has caused all these protests. We'll talk about that. Also, five headlines, including a Black Trans Lives Matter protest over the weekend. What was the point of this protest? it actually necessary. We'll discuss all of that. And our daily cancellation and much more,
Starting point is 00:00:35 all coming up on the show today. We begin with this, though. Another round of riots broke out in Atlanta, this time over the police shooting of a man named Rashard Brooks. The media is quick to tell us, of course, that Richard Brooks is a black man and the officer who shot him as a white man. But Brooks's race appears to be far less relevant in this situation than his behavior. Police were called to a local Wendy's on Friday night after Brooks fell asleep behind the wheel in a drive-thru line in the drive-thru line at Wendy's. Officers arrived. They detected a strong scent of alcohol. Also, he wasn't really making sense. He didn't seem to know where he was. Not to mention just the fact that he passed out in a drive-thru lane. All of that, pretty good indication that he's,
Starting point is 00:01:21 you know, drunk. So they do a blood alcohol test, and he was over the legal. limit. Not a big surprise. So they attempted to make an arrest. Brooks resisted, assaulted the officers, stole one of the cop's tasers, fired it at them, ran away, then turned and pointed the taser at the police officers. And it was at that point when Brooks had done literally everything in his power to escalate a non-violent situation into a violent situation. It was at that point that one of the officers shot and killed them. There's a plethora of video footage of this incident. And I'll play for you. Here's the, there are, you know, civilians that are in the drive-thru lane. Some of them are taking video of it. But here's the combined footage from the officer's body cam and the Wendy's
Starting point is 00:02:16 security camera. It gives us the best view of everything that happened in context. So here it is. Take a look. Hold on, Mr. Brooks. Will you take a preliminary breast test for me? It's yes or no? I don't want to refuse anything. It's yes or no? It's completely up to you.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Yes, I will. Okay, just wait here while I go. What kind of drinks did you have? I'm not sure. It's something she ordered. She said top shelf or whatever. Top shelf, what? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:02:43 It was, like I said, it was her birthday and... You had about one and a half drinks, but you don't remember what kind of drinks they were? No, sir. All right. I read it home, Mr. Rowe. All right. I think you've had too much to drink to be dry, and that's. Put your hands on your back for me.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Put your hands on your back. Hey, hey, stop fighting. Stop fighting. You're going to get paid. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Stop fighting. Take your hands on your back. Okay. Okay. Put your hands on your back. Okay. Now, the media has, as I said, of course, made this into a racial incident. continually highlighting the fact that Brooks was black, the officer was white.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Protesters have taken to the streets. The Wendy's where this occurred was burned to the ground, apparently for the crime of calling the police on a man passed out in the drive-thru lane. It would seem that the protesters would prefer if a business, I don't know, just wakes the drunk man out of his stupor and sends him driving along on his way. What else are they supposed to do? Because it would seem that calling to police is is what you would do if you're concerned about his safety and also the safety of the public.
Starting point is 00:04:27 The officer who shot Brooks was fired. He may be charged with murder. The police chief has resigned. And all the familiar wheels are turning once again. BLM activists and leftists have denounced the shooting mainly by pretending that Brooks went from sleeping in his car to dead on the pavement with nothing in between. They, as always, omit the most crucial elements of the story. So there's There's been a lot of this kind of thing, just as an example. Here's a guy, apparently according to his Twitter, an award-winning journalist. And here's how this award-winning journalist described the incident when arguing with me over Twitter. This is what he said.
Starting point is 00:05:07 He said he wasn't driving, talking about Brooks. He wasn't driving. He was asleep in a parking lot. And a few minutes later, he's dead. No rational sane person would ever argue that death should happen when you've been asleep in a parking lot. Only a cold, non-emopathic, I think he meant to say empathy. He said empathic. A non-emopathic white nationalist would ever make that insane argument.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yeah, he was just to sleep in his car and then he was shot dead. And that's true, of course. He was sleeping. And then, a little bit later on, he was shot dead. That is, in fact, the correct order of events. I will give you that. But it's kind of like saying, you know, of a convicted bank robber that he was walking into a bank one afternoon and then next thing you know, he's arrested and sent to prison. That's the correct order events, but you left out some very important events in between that would connect these two events on the end and make it and clarify it quite a bit.
Starting point is 00:06:10 So if you've ever seen, you know, the famous the Seinfeld episode, the yada yada, they are they are yada, yada, they are yada, yada. passed the most important part. In this case, the award-winning journalist, he has just yada-yattaed the part where Brooks assaulted and stole the taser of a police officer. So with protesters, rioters, the media, Democrat politicians like the mayor of Atlanta, who has already come out against these police officers, all trying to turn this into a cold-blooded murder by two racist assassins out killing black men for no reason, I think it's important for us to talk about the actual reality of the situation.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Let's bring this back to Realityville, okay? Which is where I personally prefer to be. That's where I like to hang out and be, particularly when we're assessing situations like this. I think it's better to do it in reality. What's the actual reality? Well, we're going to run through that in just a second. I want to take a time out here first to give you a quick message about this show. As you know, we rely in part on our advertisers to keep the mic hot, the lights on.
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Starting point is 00:09:19 So let's get into the actual reality of this Rayshard Brooks situation. And let's go through the timeline of events. Brooks is very drunk and driving. He's a danger to the public. He falls asleep in the drive-thru lane. Why are the cops called? Is it because he's a black man in his car? No.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Were the Wendy's employees being racist? Did they call the cops because they saw a black man in the drive-thru? I think we can assume that many black men and many other races have gone through the drive-thru at Wendy's and never had the cops called on them. Why was this particular individual? Why did he end up with the cops called on? Because he was sleeping in the drive-thru line. They've got a guy passed out blocking the drive-thru. to do anything but call the cops would be extremely irresponsible and reckless.
Starting point is 00:10:12 The cops come. Do they come because it's a black man? Do they say to the dispatcher, okay, well, we'll respond to this call, but only if it's a black guy. If it's not, then we're not interested. No. Now, admittedly, I don't have that interaction. I don't know what they said to the dispatcher,
Starting point is 00:10:29 but I think we can assume that that conversation did not take place. So they show up. They talk to the guy. They're very polite. You saw that in the video. They're very reasonable. He's obviously drunk. They have him take the breathalyzer. It looks like he blows a, it looked like it's at a 0.108. The legal limit is 0.08. So he is well over the limit. What do they do now? Well, he was behind the wheel of a vehicle. Key in the ignition. Passed out drunk. That's a crime. He has committed a crime. Can they be merciful and let him off the hook and not enforce the law? First of all, why should they? Second, in any case, no. they can't do that. They can't just leave and leave the drunk man in the parking lot to drive home. He goes and he hits someone else, kills them.
Starting point is 00:11:17 We're going to partially blame the cops for that, as well we should. So they have no choice but to make an arrest. It is the most responsible thing to do. It's the safest thing for the sake of the public and for his sake. He's a danger to himself, that drunk and driving a vehicle. Are they arresting him? because he's black? No, they're arresting him because he's committing a crime that endangers the public and himself. They're arresting him for the same reason they arrest anybody else in the
Starting point is 00:11:46 exact same situation. They have to bring him in, keep him locked up, let him sleep it off. Yeah, they'll probably charge him with something. Pretty standard procedure. I mean, cops do this thousands of times across America every single night. But now, Brooks, rather than accepting the consequences, begins resisting, and then assaulting the officers, and then he steals the weapon out of their hands, and then he uses it against them,
Starting point is 00:12:12 and then he runs away, then he turns and points and tries, at least tries to shoot it. The officers did everything they could to de-escalate this situation the entire time. They keep saying, you're going to get tased, warning him over and over again. They tell him hands off the taser,
Starting point is 00:12:29 warning him over and over again. Stop fighting, stop resisting, warning him over and over again. They really don't want this to turn fatal. That's pretty clear. Brooks is going out of his way, doing everything he can, everything he can to escalate this situation, even culminating in that gratuitously stupid and pointless decision to turn and point a weapon at the officers as he's running away.
Starting point is 00:12:57 And that was the last stupid decision that Brooks made that. night and it was the one that cost him his life. Now we could pick this apart. We can Monday morning quarterback it if we want. We can come up with the things that the cops could have done differently. Sure, we could. Now, I don't see anything they could have done differently in the lead-up to that to that final moment. Up until that point, they are the picture of professionalism and responsibility. They're trying to do everything they can to get this drunk man off the street safely and non-violently. And so it's totally by the book. They're being very patient.
Starting point is 00:13:34 But at the end, of course, one of them takes his gun out of the holster and shoots Brooks. Did he have to do that? Did he have to? Probably not. I mean, in hindsight. But hindsight is something that we, as people watching this from the comfort of our couches, are privileged to have. In the heat of them, we want to talk about privilege. okay we've got privilege in that we're not in this situation
Starting point is 00:14:00 and we're probably not ever going to be in the situation in the heat of the moment from the officer's perspective they have gone suddenly from a relatively routine situation arresting a drunk guy to a struggle for their lives when you're wrestling a man and he's grabbing for your weapon that's a struggle for your life your life is now on the line he could kill you and you have every reason to think he wants to kill you
Starting point is 00:14:25 and when he runs away and points something at him, he's running away, point something at the officers. Do they know it's the taser? Could it be a gun that he had on him the whole time? They haven't had a chance to search him yet. And what if he hits one of them with the taser? And then circles back now that they're incapacitated takes the gun from them. These are all calculations that they have to make in a split second,
Starting point is 00:14:51 in an extremely charged situation, and not a situation they created or wanted. A situation that they were foist into, that they were plunged into, against their will. So the question is not whether shooting Brooks makes sense to you, watching the footage three days later while comfortably sipping your coffee and saying, oh, here's all the things they could have done differently. If it was me, this is what I would have done.
Starting point is 00:15:22 The question is whether, It could have reasonably made sense to them from their perspective in the thick of it. And I think the answer is yes. But here's a crazy idea, okay? I've got a really wild thought. What if, for once, for a change, just one time, we talk about the choices made by the suspect, okay, the criminal. This was a criminal. He's committing a crime, a dangerous crime.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Were his choices justified? Was he behaving in a way that respects the lives of the officers and those around him and even himself? I mean, Black Lives Matter. Did he behave like he thinks life matters, black life matters, his own life matters? What responsibility does he carry for all of this? You see, every time this kind of thing happens, we talk about what the cops did, what they should have done. what they could have done. We never stopped to say,
Starting point is 00:16:28 what do the suspect do? What could he have done differently? What should he have done? We hold the officers 100% responsible for everything while holding the suspect responsible for nothing, as if he's an infant or a pre-programmed robot, as if he himself is not a grown adult man making choices. Now, just some more examples of what people have been saying to me about this stuff, all quite typical.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Ted Loo said, Taser is a non-lethal weapon. Ray Shard was running away. Killing him was unjustified and excessive use of force. That's why the cop has already been fired and the police chief resigned. No, the cop has been fired, the police chief resigned out of sheer cowardice and caving to the mob. It's got nothing to do with the reality of this situation. Excessive use of force. Didn't Brooks use excessive force when he assaulted a police officer who was just trying to enforce the law?
Starting point is 00:17:25 law, in this case a very good law, the law against drunk driving? What about his excessive use of force? I mean, that was kind of excessive, wouldn't you say? Why aren't we talking about that? Bakari Sellers, a CNN analyst, said to me, DUI is not a death penalty crime. They shot him in the back running away. Is enforcing our anti-drunk driving laws of death penalty crime?
Starting point is 00:17:52 I mean, were the cops committing some kind of crime? that they should have been punished for by Richard Brooks? He assaulted them and stole their weapon. Did they deserve that? The left is all about autonomy and agency, supposedly. They even have an autonomous zone now. They have a whole zone for autonomy. Well, each individual person is, in a sense,
Starting point is 00:18:16 their own little autonomous zone, in that you're a person making choices. So what about Brooks' autonomy? What about his agency? He is an agent acting in his own right. He chose to turn a non-lethal encounter into a lethal encounter. How much responsibility does he bear for that? Zero?
Starting point is 00:18:35 I mean, is that what you're going to tell me? He has zero responsibility. I mean, does he have zero responsibility for how he acts? No, I say 100%. He is 100% responsible for his own behavior. Who else can be responsible? I mean, if he's not responsible for it, then someone else is, and I don't know who that would be. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:18:55 you're not the cops aren't someone someone is deciding how brooks acts and i say that brooks himself is deciding that i can't think of who else could possibly be deciding it besides him now think about this for a second the people who are saying that the cops should not have shot brooks what they're really saying is that brooks should have been able to assault police officers steal their taser and fired at them without being killed so so i mean really consider that position If that's your position, just meditate on it for a second. Say it out loud. Say that out loud. I think a man should be able to assault a cop, steal his taser, and fire it at him without being killed.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I think you should be able to do that kind of thing without getting shot by the cops. How much sense does that make? How insane do you feel making that statement? You ought to feel pretty insane because it is insane. Now, it's also dangerous. Is that the kind of message we want to send to criminals? That you can do that and you're not going to be killed. You can do that safely.
Starting point is 00:20:09 You have the right to safely assault a police officer and steal his weapon out of his hands and use it against him. You should be able to do that. You can do that. You're not going to be killed for doing that. So might as well give it a shot. If you're getting arrested, give it a shot. Hey, why not? Assault a cop.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Try to get away. They can't do anything. Do you really think that's a message we should be sending to people? It's sad that Brooks is dead. It's sad that anytime someone dies. It's always sad. But it's sad because Brooks threw his own life away for no reason. It is sad because he made the choices that he made and brought this on himself.
Starting point is 00:20:54 This was his fault. He is responsible. He paid the price, the ultimate price, and it's a sad price. It is very sad. But it's the price that anyone is at risk of paying if they make the choices that this man made. This is not a story of police brutality. It's a story of a man named Ray Sharper Brooks, who did a bad thing driving drunk and followed it up with an enormously stupid and reckless thing, assaulting a cop and stealing his taser. and after that night, a night filled with bad, stupid, reckless choices, he died,
Starting point is 00:21:31 as so many others have after nights like that. If you go out one night and decide to do a bunch of bad, stupid, reckless things, you might die. And that's why I really hope you don't do that. Because it's sad. It's sad for someone to throw their life away. We've been told by the media and by Brooks' family and the lawyers that, He's a father who just wanted to get home to his kids. I believe he loved his kids.
Starting point is 00:22:00 He's a father. Okay. You want to get home to your kids. That's not how you act. You want to get home to your kids. You don't drive drunk. You want to get home to your kids. You don't assault a police officer and steal his weapon and then turn around and pointed at him.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Anytime I go out, I always want to get home to my kids. That's why I would never do those things. So, you know, we could get into the psychology of it. Why did he act that way? it. He was drunk, yeah, it's part of it. But that's nobody's fault but his own. No one else can be responsible for that. He chose to get drunk and drive. So we can get into the, you know, why did he make these choices, so on and so forth. But what you can't escape is, number one, these were his choices that he made. And number two, these are choices that could get anybody
Starting point is 00:22:49 killed, which is why it's very sad when people make choices like this. But it is not a moral outrage. It's not a moral outrage because no moral atrocity was committed. These cops were responding to a situation that they were thrust into by this man. There's nothing to protest here. Unless we're going to protest, let me correct that actually. There's a lot to protest, in fact. Let's protest this message that's being sent by Democrats in the left in the media. that violent criminals are not responsible for their own behavior and that they should be able to do whatever they want and still be safe. Let's protest that message.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Because it's a dangerous message, and it's a message that's getting people killed. You want to talk about the psychology of Rayshar Brooks. Maybe one of the things that we can't know exactly what was going through his head. I mean, I can't imagine what would go through someone's head to make them act that way. But maybe one of the things going through his head is he thought he could get away with this because of the cops are under the microscope now. And there's a whole bunch of people there recording he knows it.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Did that go through his head? I mean, has he been watching the news and seeing as people have been able to burn down buildings and riot and assault police officers and not even get arrested, let alone shot? Was he thinking about that? Maybe. That's not an outlandish theory. Whether he was thinking about it. or not, this is a thought that's being put into people's heads.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And so, you know, that's something worth protest. But in the end, this comes down to his own choices. And we will move on now to headlines. Number one, there was another march over the weekend, aside from the George Floyd marches and the Rayshard Brooks marches, there's another march on top of all these marches. This was a black trans lives matter march. BTLM.
Starting point is 00:25:02 So here's aerial footage. of the Black Trans Lives Matter March in New York. A ton of people there. And a few brief things to say about this. Number one. The justification for this march is that supposedly there's an epidemic of anti-trans hate crimes, especially against black trans people. And so although black trans people and trans people in general are a tiny subset of the population,
Starting point is 00:25:30 we need to have a huge march for them to stand up against these hate. hate crimes. The reality is that, and another one of those realities that most people don't want to say because they're afraid what's going to happen, but this is the reality. And I want you to pay attention. There is no epidemic of anti-trans hate crime. This is a fabrication. This is an invention by the left. It is not true. Like everything else they say these days, It is not true. It doesn't exist. There is no epidemic of anti-trans hate crime.
Starting point is 00:26:10 They are lying. They are making this up. Which is why when you listen to what the media is saying, they'll often tell you, and I was just reading a CNN article about the Black Trans Matter protest. And they had a line of paragraph in there where they said, I think it was like 14. They said so far 14 black trans people have been killed in 2020. So that's all they tell you. As if the very fact that a trans person is murdered is itself proof that it was a hate crime.
Starting point is 00:26:43 As if every single trans person killed is a victim of a hate crime. Like there's no other reason ever why a trans person would end up murdered. This is nonsense, of course. Trans people are going to be murdered just like people in every demographic are murdered. They're not immune from it. Unfortunately, we live in a, we're mortal human. beings and we live in a society where murder happens, happens even, it's happening more and more across the board, in many cities at least.
Starting point is 00:27:14 And it's, so you could do this with every demographic. I mean, I could give you a stat for, I don't know, how many birdwatchers are murdered every year. I'm sure there's a certain number that are murdered every year. Does that prove that there's a serial killer out there killing birdwatchers or there's an epidemic of anti-birdwatching hate crime? No. It just proves that birdwatchers.
Starting point is 00:27:34 aren't immune from being murdered, which we already knew. Chad Felix Green did a piece about this for the federal, so you can go look it up. Excellent piece. Excellent reporting. And he looked at all the cases of trans murders reported by the human rights campaign over the last several years. And he found, you can go look at yourself. I mean, you can go through the links, which I have also done. And he found that the vast majority were related to domestic disputes, prostitution, or drugs.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Not hate crimes. Anti-trans hate crimes are very rare. That's the fact. Do they happen? Sure, I'm sure they happen. You know, hate crimes against all people happen. Is there an epidemic? No, it's a lie.
Starting point is 00:28:20 They are making it up. Anyone who tells you otherwise is ignorant or lying. Second point. What about social distancing? I mean, this is the obvious way. You look at that picture there. All these people packed in in New York, you know, like the epicenter of the, what was the epicenter of the pandemic in America.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And that's happening. So we're expanding the exception. We already know that, you know, going to church, I mean, if you do that, you're going to get coronavirus. If you go to like a restaurant, you get coronavirus. You go to a beach, you're going to get coronavirus. Take your kids at a playground. Send your kids to school. They're going to get coronavirus. But magically, if you're mad about a police shooting and you go out, then you're immune. coronavirus. And now we also have to include if you're marching for trans people, you're also immune. That confers some sort of immunity over you, apparently, which is a fact that even the so-called public health experts seem to be all but endorsing, at least implicitly endorsing. Okay, number two, important news here. The media reports that Nickelodeon has confirmed
Starting point is 00:29:27 that SpongeBob SquarePants is gay in celebration of Pride Month. They've confirmed it. But here's the tweet that supposedly confirms this. And as you can see there, they're celebrating Pride Month. And then we see SpongeBob SquarePants in rainbow colors. Does that mean he's gay? Well, no, because he's a cartoon.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And he's also a sponge. He's a non-existent sponge. That's two levels. That would mean that he couldn't possibly come out as gay. Sponges are asexual, by the way. Which means that SpongeBob Squarepants is in
Starting point is 00:30:03 the LGBTQ plus community. A is in there somewhere. I think it's LGBTQIA plus or something like that and the A is asexual. So sponges are already in that community. Every time you buy a sponge in the detergent aisle at Walmart, you are showing your pride. You're supporting diversity. Those are different kinds of sponges, of course. But anyway, why am I talking about this? What a stupid time we live in. What a stupid, stupid time. Number three, here's a video that's gone viral over the past day or two. I don't know who this woman is or where she is, but the location, you know, doesn't really matter because this could be any of the many neighborhoods destroyed by rioting in recent weeks. Here's a woman dealing with the consequences of that rioting.
Starting point is 00:30:54 It's a very, speaking of a sad video. This is a very sad video. Watch this. Look at this. Every grocery store looks like this. Every grocery store looks like this. Everything is either on the floor. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Can't even get no food for my kids, G. Look at this. Came in a store to try to buy something because I'm not a thief. Look at this. I am so devastated right now, gee. This is not okay. For us to have to live like this, we do stupid shit like this all the time. And we so black proud.
Starting point is 00:31:38 We saw black and proud that we ain't gonna never be honest and be real about what's really going on. Y'all are so wrong for this. You came in your neighborhood and fucked up your shit. I'm not a thief. I'm not coming in this door and stealing nothing. And ain't nobody going to turn me into no animal or makes me feel like a thief. Y'all let the white folks send y'all off once again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:01 To all of you tolerant liberals who displayed your wokeness by justifying rioting while sitting on your fat, asses insulated from the damage. That's what you supported right there. That's on you. That's yours. You helped to do that. You cheered that on. You gave that cover. You dressed that up. You intellectualized that. You rationalized that. And then you moved on. Feeling proud of yourself, feeling accomplished, feeling so sophisticated. You didn't have the stupid, simplistic view of rioting that us peons have. it and just say, well, that's bad. They have a bunch of people tearing buildings down and
Starting point is 00:32:42 looting and burning buildings and attacking people. I mean, us dumb peasants, right? We look at that and think, that's just bad. That's a bad thing. You shouldn't do that. But you up on your perch, you were much smarter than that. I mean, you had the nuanced perspective and realized that this is a response to systemic discrimination. That was your very intelligent position. But then, but then you go on and feeling very good about yourself, you move on to the next thing, leaving that woman and many like her to live in the rubble. So congratulations, you despicable monsters, you pieces of garbage, you awful, miserable excuses for human beings. Congratulations, that's on you. Hope you feel good about that. Number four, here's a leading activist on the BBC talking about
Starting point is 00:33:36 the Churchill statues that leftists want to tear down. And apparently, you know, you're going to seeming to reveal that she doesn't actually know who Winston Churchill was. Watch this. Should the statue of Churchill be there or not, do you think? Well, I've heard many arguments on both sides. Some say that he's a racist, some say that he's a hero. I haven't personally met him. But what I would say is that that question of whether he should remain should be put to the community. You haven't personally met him because he's been dead
Starting point is 00:34:13 for over half a century. So that's why you haven't met him. This, of course, is very common, though. This is what you expect. The people ripping down statues, they don't know a damn thing about the people whose statues, who are represented in these states. They don't know anything about them.
Starting point is 00:34:32 All they know is that it's an old white guy and that's all they need. No more information needed. You think the people ripping down statues of Columbus, you think they could tell you a single thing about Columbus? Other than what they read in the Facebook memes, they could give you a whole list of talking points. It was a genocidal slaveholder, rapist. I mean, they could give you all that, the stuff they read in the memes. They can give you the meme information, the bullet points.
Starting point is 00:34:57 You think they could speak coherently about Columbus for like, I don't know, could they give you a paragraph? Could they write a six-sentence paragraph about Columbus? Anything about him? No, they couldn't. They don't know anything about him whatsoever. They don't know anything about any of these. But this is what happens when you have, this is part of what the school system has done.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Aside from radicalizing a whole generation of Americans and making them hate their own history, making them hate their own, making them hate their own, you know, the heroes in America and of the West, Winston Churchill, and one of the heroes of the West, West. This is something obviously not just happening in the United States. But that's one thing
Starting point is 00:35:44 we get from the school system. The other thing is, the other crucial ingredient is absolute ignorance of history. They've got anger and bigotry and certain sort of vague prejudices that they get from the school system when it comes to history. But as for an actual understanding of these historical periods and these people and what they did, what they accomplished, good and bad, they don't have that. But they can tear down a statue, that much they can do. We're going to move on now to our daily cancellation. And before we do, there's so much going on this year in the news, of course, it's one thing we, you know, there's a never-ending just array parade of news events. Unfortunately, many of them quite bad. But it's hard to sort through it all and to know
Starting point is 00:36:35 what to think about all of it and to know what's what's really going on. Not so much what to think, because what to think is up to you. But to know what's really going on is very difficult, especially when you can't trust that you're getting the real information from the media. And that's why you've got to become a DailyWire member. Get a readers pass today from DailyWire.com. You get access to exclusive op-eds from us, as well as guest writers, in-depth analysis from our DailyWire reporters on top of our regular breaking news coverage. This membership tier is already a bargain at three bucks a month. If you join today, you get the first month for 99 cents. I mean, it's hard to beat that. You also get access to our mobile app, receive push notifications for breaking
Starting point is 00:37:14 news and special content, as well as you can join the community of DailyWire members who are actively commenting and discussing our content with each other. That's mobile, add free access to all of our DailyWire news, exclusive op-eds, and more on the mobile app, all for the price of $1. Go to daily.com slash subscribe and join today. Okay. Finally, for our daily cancellation, we're going to be canceling AOC for, what is this, the fourth time maybe, fourth or fifth time? The only person who's been canceled more than AOC is my wife. So they're neck and neck at this point. Many reasons to choose from when it comes to canceling AOC, but here's the latest from her. I think even the term white fragility can like really set a lot of people off and saying,
Starting point is 00:37:59 what do you mean I'm fragile? You know, like this is offensive. And so it's almost ironic that the term is kind of self-evocative in that way. Congress is, I don't know, I mean, it changed a bit, but prior to this term, Congress is about 90% white, which means there are a lot of blind spots. I have seen a lot from legislators and experienced a lot. And it's really, really difficult to confront and to see how some folks' political comfort is prioritized above other people's ability to survive and to live. Yes. Okay. So the most fragile woman in America who finds sexism and bigotry around every corner is now accusing other people of being fragile. talk about projection. As for the term white fragility, well, if you want to get a good
Starting point is 00:39:09 perspective on that term, just put any other color, any other race in front of the word fragility and see how it looks. But any other race in front of the term fragility, and would anyone deny that it's racist? But it's bigoted? Of course not. The same, of course, goes for men and women. I mean, you can attach a whole bunch of different words to male or mass. masculine, that you can't attach to female or feminine. Male fragility, toxic masculinity, all of that's okay. But female fragility, toxic femininity? No, you can't do that.
Starting point is 00:39:48 That's sexist. That's terribly sexist. That would be terrible. So AOC, you see, she herself is very strong, very reasonable, very mature, above it all, as long as you play by her rules. If you accept her double standards without questioning, if you dance to her tune, then that's fine. As long as she can live in a world where she can vomit her bigotry all over everybody else and never once hear any criticism from anyone ever, then she's truly a strong and independent woman
Starting point is 00:40:25 and an inspiration to us all. But the moment she encounters any pushback, the moment she gets the smallest dose of her own medicine, she breaks down in tears like a damsel in distress, has a temper tantrum, starts screaming about sexism and racism. It is somewhat similar to like a three-year-old. A three-year-old can be an angel, very well-behaved, as long as everything is going their way. If you do everything a three-year-old wants all the time, never give any pushback, then they're going to behave great. but the moment they encounter some reality that will not morph to their expectations, the moment you say something that I'll like, that's when they freak out.
Starting point is 00:41:10 And AOC is very similar to that. This is all a tiresome game, and we shouldn't play it. That's what needs to happen now. Just don't play these games. This double standard stuff, no. It's not going to work that way. I'm sorry. One rule for everyone.
Starting point is 00:41:27 That's it. That's all you get. You don't get your own rules. We're not going to abide by that. Many people have chosen to go along with that for way too long. I think we need to stop now. No. White fragility?
Starting point is 00:41:41 No, you can't. Sorry, you can't say that. You can't say that. It's not going to work that way. So here's how it is going to work. AOC. If you want to retain the right to accuse white people of racism, should they use a term like fragility to describe other races than their own,
Starting point is 00:41:57 which I'm sure, I'm quite sure you would want to call a white person racist for doing that, then that means that you yourself, you must accept, are a dumb bigot, a dumb, hateful, racist bigot for using that term
Starting point is 00:42:13 to describe races other than your own. That's the rule that you would want to apply to white people, I'm quite sure. It's the rule, I mean, you've called white people racist for far less than that. So that's the rule you apply to white people. That same rule goes to you. And that would be a perfectly consistent position for you to take.
Starting point is 00:42:32 You can say, AOC, you can say, yes, I'm an awful bigot. I hate races other than my own, particularly this one race over here. I hate you guys. And white people who behave and speak like me are also awful bigots, just like me. We're all awful bigots together. That's a fine position. I mean, it's not a fine position. It's a pretty terrible position.
Starting point is 00:42:57 morally speaking, ethically, but it's consistent. It's intellectually consistent and logical, but that's what it's going to be. Now, this thing where you get to go around saying white fragility and no one calls you racist for it, no, no, you're a dumb. AOC is a disgusting dumb bigot. That's what she is. And that is just a bigoted statement. Think of what you say. You're calling a whole race of people fragile. What kind of disgusting? disgusting racism is that. And we just accept this. We just accept this from a, from a, from a, from a, from a congresswoman. You think Trump could get away with that? You think he could get away with fragile, describing any race of people? What kind of reaction would there be to that? Yet aOC says it's, oh, yeah, sure, white fragility. Not to mention, I mean, we talk about the double standards here. We could spend all day dissecting the double standards. But. What do you really mean when you're calling men fragile? You're calling white people fragile?
Starting point is 00:44:09 What do you really mean? That what? They're emotional. They get offended. Since when is that a problem? I thought you're okay with that. Especially when you hear about male fragility, which is the other, that's kind of like the cousin of white fragility.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And if you're a white male, then you're double fragile. But then the interesting thing is with male fragility, we're also told all the time that men don't display their emotions enough. They keep it all bottled up. Part of toxic masculinity is that men don't want to display their emotions because they're afraid of being accused of being feminine. And yet, we can be told that a man is toxicly masculine and he has male fragility.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Which is it? It's kind of one or the other. Because if he's fragile emotionally, that means that he's, what, he's too emotionally, showing off his emotions too much? The thing is I actually agree that it's a problem for a man to be fragile. I don't agree that all men are, but some men are and they shouldn't be. But you, as a woke leftist, you're supposed to be all about that. You should be defending that. Say, that's a wonderful thing.
Starting point is 00:45:15 You're expressing your emotions. Oh, no, no, no. But that's what you would do again if you were consistent and not a bigot, which is what you are. And so you're canceled. And we will leave it at that. Thanks everybody for watching. day. Godspeed. If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe. And if you want to help spread the word, please give us a five-star review. Tell your friends to subscribe as well. We're
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