The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 532 - The Mask Wars Are Incredibly Stupid

Episode Date: July 30, 2020

Today on the Matt Walsh Show, the mask wars are driving people insane. But the mask issue should not be ideological, and does not need to be a battleground in the culture war. Today I hope to inject a little bit of basic common sense into the mask debate. Also Five Headlines including crazed Taylor Swift fans doxxing a music reviewer who didn’t like Swift’s album enough. And in our Daily Cancellation, I will preemptively cancel the false narrative around the latest video of a man dying in police custody. Get your copy of "How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps" here: https://utm.io/uHjZ If you like The Matt Walsh Show, become a member TODAY with promo code: WALSH and enjoy the exclusive benefits for 10% off at https://www.dailywire.com/walsh Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today on the Matt Wall Show, the mask wars are driving people insane. But the mask issue should not be ideological and doesn't need to be a battleground in the culture war. So today I hope to inject a little bit of basic common sense into the mask debate because a lot of that is lacking. Also, five headlines including crazed Taylor Swift fans doxing a music reviewer who didn't like Taylor Swift's album enough. She liked it, but not enough. And so she got doxed. And in our daily cancellation, I'll preemptively cancel the false narrative around the latest video. of a man dying in police custody. I have the video of the footage. We'll talk about it.

Of course, there's a lot of false narratives already cropping up. All of that coming up. Okay, beginning here. Look, usually I save the daily cancellation for the end of the show, and we will have one at the end of the show. But today is going to be a rare double cancellation. We will cancel at the beginning and at the end. And who knows, maybe in the middle, too. You never know. What I really like to do is cancel any and all mask cultists on either side. Okay, pro mask, anti-mask. Anyone who intentionally makes a scene in public over masks, pro-war anti, is canceled. Anyone on a crusade to spread the good news or bad news about masks is canceled.

Anyone who even talks about masks is canceled. I'm so sick of it, which means that I'm canceled too. Fine. This is a kamikaze mission on my part. This whole mask thing is driving people quite literally insane. masks have become somehow a societal touchstone, a battleground for the culture war, which I suppose shouldn't surprise me. I mean, even butter and syrup and chicken sandwiches have been battleground for the cultural war in recent times. But now masks have become a way for both sides of the culture to signal their allegiance.

They have become a way to identify the in-group and the out-group, pro-mask versus anti-mask, the two tribes, because everything is. is tribal these days. So I want to show you the latest example. This is a video pretty disturbing in a lot of ways. This is from a Walmart in Georgia in Georgia. Watch this. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Even the school requires children that enter the age of 10 not to wear them. So why would I never wear? Why is being ridiculous. You're all right. You take care of yourself. Bye. But I'm wearing a mask. Yeah, good for you five.

Yes, you heard that right. The old woman in the mask wishes death on the family that doesn't have a mask. To include the small children, she wishes death on small children because they aren't wearing masks. Like I said, driven insane. She says, I hope you all die because you're going to kill me. Now, even if that were true, what kind of adult, especially older adult, wishes death on small children in order to preserve their own lives? You know, this four-year-old must die so that I can live another few years

and be miserable and selfish the whole time. I have to spread my, I still have so much more misery and selfishness to spread throughout the earth. Then again, I shouldn't be shocked because a similar thought process has led to the murder of 60 million children in the womb in this country,

so what else could I really expect? And also, for the record, of course, she is not going to die because those people aren't wearing masks. She is going to die at some point. We all will, but it's not going to be because that family wasn't wearing a mask. She's wearing a mask.

All she has to do now is avoid them. Walk in the other direction. If anyone in that family has the virus, it isn't going to jump out of their mouths and travel through the store, through the aisles to attack her while she's over in the Raisin Brain aisle or whatever she's doing. So if you're really worried about people who aren't wearing masks,

why are you in their face yelling at them? Just walk away. Give them space. Isn't that what you would do if you're afraid someone has a deadly disease? Well, let's be fair here, okay? Pro-mask cultists aren't the only ones making scenes in public. I'll show you another video. This is a video, and there are many like it, of a guy at a grocery store in California

going crazy, screaming at employees who are simply trying to enforce their company mask policy. Watch. Be me alone. Stop. Get go with my fucking car. Get the f*** out of here. No, you need to back up. It's time to go.

Outside now. Outside now. Outside now. Outside, go. Go. I know you're coming. That is not a random person harassing that guy. Okay, this is an employee.

Works for the establishment. They were being perfectly reasonable. He's being a lunatic. Okay. Now, I want to make a few points about masks. And if I'm lucky, I'll piss off everybody on all sides of this infernal debate. We'll start with this. Number one. Masks are not magical cloths that guarantee you safety from all harm. In fact, the science is not settled at all on how effective the masks actually are.

That's why the government originally told us not to wear them. Scratch that. Didn't just tell us not to wear them, but aggressively scolds. and shamed anyone who did wear them. You may remember this tweet from the Surgeon General in February said, seriously, people, stop buying masks, all caps. They are not effective in preventing general public from catching coronavirus, but if health care providers don't get them to care for sick patients, it puts them in our communities at risk. So if the government has trouble getting people to buy into masks, they only have themselves to blame. And a little bit of an acknowledgement and accountability on that score would be nice. After all, they were again the ones going out and

shaming people for wearing masks for months until they changed their tune. Number two, masks are also not a communist conspiracy to control and oppress you. A federal mask mandate requiring people to wear masks all the time everywhere in the country would be bad news and I certainly, and certainly unconstitutional and I would oppose it passionately. But in most cases, even aside from what the local ordinances say, retail outlets and other stores have their own policies requiring masks. And a big reason they do that is to cover their own butts against liability. Someone's going to get sued because a customer got coronavirus in their store. Nobody wants to be the company that deals with that lawsuit.

That's perfectly reasonable as far as I can tell. And if I was in their shoes, I'd probably do the same thing. walking into a store that requires a request masks and making a point of not wearing them just makes you a jackass, not a freedom fighter. These establishments have the right to set the rules. Respect that or go elsewhere. Also, by the way, when you go charging into a store without a mask, all you're doing is causing problems for the kid at the entrance who's supposed to be enforcing the rule, or as was the

case in the video I just played for the young lady who has to enforce it. You're just getting him in trouble or her in trouble and making their lives more difficult. That makes you a jerk, not a hero. I mean, who do you think you're standing up against, you're standing up against, you know, an employee that gets paid $9 an hour, just causing problems for them. Number three, you're not a hero for wearing a mask either. It's not a sign of virtue. It doesn't make you a good person.

People who don't wear masks aren't evil. If they aren't wearing them in a store that requires them, they're being jerks to the store employees, but they aren't demon spawns. I mean, the guy in the video kind of acted like one a little bit, but most aren't. And they aren't any real threat to your health either. Just give them a wide berth if you're concerned, you'll be fine. If it's a situation where masks are not required, as is the case in most of the establishments where I happen to live, then people will make their own decisions and you should mind your

own damn business. Personally, I don't wear a mask unless it's required. That's my choice, my business. You make your own choice. and if you're petrified to leave your home unless every human everywhere is wearing a mask, then you suffer from paranoid delusions. And you should probably seek psychological care. Coronavirus is the least of your problems, you insane person.

Number four, wearing masks outside while you walk down the sidewalk is very stupid and pointless and in 100 degree heat, probably not sanitary with all the sweat and everything that's gathering in there. You're not going to contract or spread the coronavirus while walking. past someone outside. The virus, according to the CDC and all research we've seen, is mostly spread through close and prolonged contact with symptomatic people. That accounts for the vast majority of infections. Your chance of getting it outside, walking down the road is extremely, extremely, extremely small. But again, make your own choices. You know, it's up to you. Number five. Actually, there is no five. Four is quite enough. My point is made. Those are all.

all of my opinions about masks. I have no more opinions. I don't know how many, how people have so many opinions and so strongly about masks. This is one of those things, as I said at the top, where I wish we could all just have just a little bit of common sense. That's all. Just apply a little bit of normal common sense to the situation and, and I think we'll be, will be okay. All right, let's move on to our five headlines. We're going to go through these headlines here. Remember, there's so much going on in the news. If you want to keep up with all of it, make sure to get a reader's pass at DailyWire.com. Go to DailyWire.com slash subscribe today, and that will give you access to all of our exclusive content, minus the mainstream media leftist

spin, get exclusive opeds from your podcast hosts as well as guest writers, in-depth analysis from DailyWire reporters on top of all the regular breaking news as well. The membership tier is $3 a month, but you can get your first month for 99 cents. So go to DailyWire.com slash subscribe and join today. Okay. Where are we? Number one, a hologram effigy of George Floyd will be touring the southern states to be projected onto Confederate monuments in Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia, other places.

Floyd's family members are behind this project, and they unveiled it at a ceremony in Richmond. I think it was yesterday, and it was projected over a Jefferson Davis memorial. The Daily News describes the hologram this way. It says the hologram starts out with fireflies that coalesce into a 3D image of Floyd with his name depicted in graffiti on either side to reflect the murals that have sprung up worldwide. Now, okay, I want you to imagine how traumatizing this must be, legitimately traumatizing for George Floyd's victims. And yes, he did have victims. Just how would you feel? Think about how you would feel.

Put yourself in the shoes of his victims. Think about the woman who was robbed at gunpoint by Floyd after he forced his way into her house. held a gun to her stomach in front of her child. How would she feel, how would you feel if that happened to you? Seeing the giant face of your attacker glowing and projected onto a memorial like you some kind of heavenly vision. This, as I've been saying for a while now, you know, we have gone, of course, way, way, way beyond just expressing. outrage over an unjust death. This is way into the realm of canonizing, sanctifying, hero worship of a man who was, to put it really mildly, not a hero at all. But this is what we're

doing. Let's go to number two. Here's a fun story. Reading from the New York Post, it says a suspected arsonist faces up to 20 years in jail for trying to torch Portland's Justice Center. And he was, and I hope he actually does all 20 years, but I think we know that's not going to happen. He was easily identified thanks to a tattoo of his name on his back, according to prosecutors. Edward Shenzh. 32 was one of 30 who broke into the area that houses the city's police headquarters under the cover of protests in late May. The mob attack led to the area later being secured with heavy gates.

After smashing windows, the mob spray-painted offices, broke computers, and then started a series of fires in a jail records office. forcing staff to flee for safety. Shinsing was, according to the police department, identified by a comparison with a jail booking photo and a distinctive tattoo of his last name across his back. A booking photograph shows his surname in large letters across his back,

seemingly matching those of a topless intruder caught in security camera footage from the attack. Yeah, and unfortunately for him, his last name is Shinsing, like at least if it was Smith or Johnson or something like that he could maybe claim that the guy in the footage is someone else someone with his last name who looks just like him and also has the same tattoo it's not a very plausible denial but at least it's possible it's more possible than claiming that there's more than one shinsing in the area up to mischief I'll never understand of all the dumb tattoos people get I will never understand getting a tattoo of your own name this is a somewhat common thing. And I just don't get it. It's pretty lazy for one thing. It seems as though you went to the tattoo parlor, sat down, had no idea what you wanted, and then came up with this on the spot. It's like the tattoo artist. So what do you want? I don't know. I hadn't really thought about it. I mean,

my name? Let's just go with that. But of course, that's not how tattoos work. You know, maybe it works that way in prison, I don't know, but in the free world, it's a slower and more considered process. And yet you settle on your own name. And then you go and commit crimes with your shirt off, exposing your name. Antifa. Antifa, they are not sending their best. They really aren't. Or maybe this is their best, which is a scary thought. Number three, the actress, I think she's actress, Tiffany Haddish appeared on Carmela Anthony's, Carmelo Anthony's show yesterday. Camel Anthony, of course, the basketball player apparently has his own show. Everybody does these days.

They even gave one to me. I mean, it's pretty easy to get one. And during the discussion at one point, she explained why she doesn't want to bring kids into this world. And speaking of being paranoid, listen to this. I'm not a fearful person, right? But like, I have watched many of my friends, not many, but I've, more. than two of my friends growing up be killed by police officers you know and and it makes you feel like they you know as a black person we're being hunted and like i felt like and i've always felt like that

we're hunted and we're slaughtered and it's like they get this license to kill us and that's not okay and you know i'm i'm older now a little older and people always like you're going to have baby when you're going to have some babies when you're going to drop some babies and and there's a part of me that would would like to do that and I always make up these excuses like, oh, I need a million dollars in the bank before I can touch you. I need this, I need that. But really it's like I would hate to give birth to someone that looks like me and then knowing that they're going to be hunted or killed. You know, like why would I put someone through that? Look, I know it doesn't matter at this point. Nope, nobody, nobody cares. We're way past the point when things like facts make a difference to

anyone. But for the record, this police are hunting people down thing is completely and totally untrue. Not even a little true. There is literally zero truth to it. It never happens. So when someone says police are hunting and killing black people, it's not just that they're exaggerating. It's that they're inventing something that never happens. Certainly not in recent history. Unless, I mean, prove me wrong. Give me an example. Give me an example, if you have one, of police going out and hunting and killing a black

person. Now, there are cases of police killing people, obviously. In the vast majority of those cases, the people who are killed were in the process of trying to kill officers. That's true, as we have gone over, even of the unarmed killings. In most of those cases, the person was trying to kill officers. either by using a weapon that doesn't count as a weapon in the official reports, like a vehicle, or by trying to disarm them and take their weapon and use it against them, that sort of thing.

And in the very, very, very, very small minority of actual unjust killings, none of them that I've ever heard of could be honestly described as police hunting and killing someone. You want to say that George Floyd killing was unjust, fine. if you say that the man was hunted and killed, then you're just a dishonest, ridiculous hack. And I think you know that. Number four, The Daily Beast has a report now about the insane backlash, a music review

for the site Pitchfork phase. The reviewer named Jillian MAPS. And MAPS wrote a positive, but mildly critical review of Taylor Swift's new album, folklore, I think it's called. And because it wasn't positive enough, Swift's fans harassed her. Actually, doxed her, according to The Daily Beast,

posted her address and her phone number, doxed her because she didn't like Taylor Swift's album enough. She liked it, but didn't like it enough. She gave it whatever, a B-minus or something, whatever her grade was. And it wasn't an A-plus. You know, it's not good enough. This is why, of all the lost souls,

of all the deranged groups of people in America, and there are many of them, none are more lost or more deranged than people who find their identity in their fandom. Whether they're fans of a pop star or a movie like Star Wars or a TV show or video games, whatever it is, there's nothing wrong with being a fan. I'm a fan, believe it or not. There are things and people that I like, if you can believe it. Not many, but there are some. What I'm talking about is finding your identity in your fandom. If that's like the most important thing to you in your life, for that to be basically the number one thing about you, the most prominent component of your life is that you're a fan of this thing or this person. If you fall into that category, then you are, no offense, the most pathetic sort of person that it's possible to be.

The phrase get a life was invented for you specifically. And here's how to know that you're in that group, okay? maybe you're not sure if you're that far into it. Here's how to know you're in that group or you're headed in that direction. You're nearly in that group. If you get angry, actually truly angry when someone doesn't like a form of entertainment that you like, you know, if you are incapable of having a discussion with someone who is critical of your favorite thing or who doesn't like as much as you, if you cannot engage with any critical discussion

of this thing or person that you like because you become blind with fury and start to feel real, hatred towards that person, that's a good sign that you are way, way to invest in this thing, whatever it is. And yes, that goes for sports teams too. I will throw that in. I'm not going to leave that out. And I say that as someone who sometimes teeters close to the edge of being a pathetic loser in this regard. I admit that. I do take my fandom of the Baltimore Ravens quite seriously, too seriously, in fact. And so, yes, I am kind of a pathetic loser there. But the saving grace is that it only lasts for four months out of the year. So for four months of the year, I'm a pathetic dork when it comes to my football fandom. But then I revert back to being normal again for the rest of it.

So it's only a third of the year, okay, for me being pathetic. It's not too bad. It's not great, but it's not as bad as it could be. But even as seriously as I take sports, you know, I still don't take it as seriously as some people do. You know, I've seen a not unfamiliar site, People get into fist fights. Many of us have seen this if you're at a stadium or a sports bar. I was at a sports bar a little while ago, and two dudes in different team jerseys got into a fight. Now, granted, there was alcohol involved, okay, but even so.

I've never been tempted to punch someone because they liked a different team than me. Think about what that is. You're trying to cause physical harm to someone because they like to watch a different group of men play a game. Oh, yeah? This group of men are better at playing the game than your favorite group. No, they're not. No, this group is even better.

You bastard, I'll kill you. I mean, it's just, it's not stable is all I'm saying. It really doesn't. Stop and think about what you're doing every once in a while. Okay, number five, this is good to report from the New York Post. says, we read a little bit, it says there's some real monkey business at a British safari park

where a roving gang of baboons armed with knives and even a chainsaw have been wreaking havoc and sewing fear, according to a report. The prowling primates are known to have vandalized vehicles, ripping off windshield wipers and mirrors from them at the nosely safari park.

But the baboons, now I'm just reading through here. Oh, this is disappointing. I should have read this before. Now park officials are saying that it's a myth. The park told the news outlet, we believe many of these stories have grown in an exaggeration as they've been retold with embellishment to make the objects that are sometimes found in the enclosure seem more exciting and unbelievable.

Oh, that's disappointing. This is what I get for just going with the headline. Usually I try to do better than that. Usually I try to, you know, I try not to be one of those people that just sees a headline and I'm off to the races. But when the headline is chainsaw wielding baboons, I'm going with the headline. Okay, because, and this is exactly why.

Then you read the details, and it's depressing, because it turns out maybe that's not actually the case. I like the idea, though. Okay, this is what I want to say. This is good, because I think we can all agree, right, that it's probably time to wrap up this whole humanity deal. Like, I think we've all, it's, we've all seen enough.

We've really run our course and milked it for what it's worth, and it's probably time to just, you know, get on with it, get on with the apocalypse one way or another. So it's just a matter now of choosing the best apocalypse, okay? How do we want to finally self-destruct? And a planet of the apes type of thing could be a lot of fun. Now, if I had my pick of the litter, I would still go with the alien invasion. But if that's not going to happen, if my dreams are dashed, then I think, yeah, armed the baboons,

maybe do a little genetic manipulation type of thing like they do in the movies, and just let them go to work. Not a bad way for the human species to go out, I think. You have to admit. So those are our five headlines. Let's go to our daily cancellation. Today for our daily cancellation, I'm going to canceling preemptively all the false narratives, current and future, over the latest incident of a suspect dying while police attempt to restrain him during an arrest. This is Lionel Morris. He died on February 4th at a grocery store as police tried to place him under arrest. The media is running with the story. The usual suspects are chiming in. Another George Floyd, they're saying the Washington Post headline is clearly meant to give a certain impression. Their headline,

if you can talk, you can breathe. Arkansas cops tell man who later dies in police custody. Okay, but all you need to do is read the Washington Post article, the actual article, not just the headline, speaking of actually reading articles, to see the truth. So let's do that now. Let's look at This is like the second paragraph of the article. It says Morris had run from officers on February 4th and then placed one officer in a chokehold and tried to pull out a knife, according to police. After the supermarket had reported him for removing a drone from its packaging, i.e. he was trying to steal it. But as an officer had his knee on this 39-year-old's back inside Harps food store, Morris handcuffed and lying face down, repeatedly offered a succinct and familiar plea, I can't breathe. there's body cam footage and surveillance footage that has been released and you can see it online

prosecutors cleared the officers of any wrongdoing in the case and that's why it's in the news now and that's why the footage was released the footage shows why there was no there there are no charges in this case the body cam video is 45 minutes long i'm not going to play the whole thing of course but but here's a here's how the arrest began at least we'll play this and you'll see just the beginning of it can go on youtube to see the But here's how the arrest started. Starting a business. Now, put your hands on your back.

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Let go. Let go. Relax. Let me go. Now, you can't see a lot of the details there, but you can tell he's running, obviously, fighting. The officer ends up on his back. And we're told Morris, tried to put. pull a knife, put an officer in a chokehold.

Also, here's, there's other information about this story that's important. This also is from the post, but it's buried deeper down in the article. It says, the medical examiner concluded that Morris died of methamphetamine intoxication with a combination of exertion, struggle, restrained, and conducted electrical weapon deployment, according to a letter from prosecuting attorney Carol Cruz to explain his death in the custody, Tapely pointed to toxicology reports, finding that Morris had substances including methamphetamine, morphine, amphetamine, opiates, and cannabinoids in his system. Okay. So a whole bunch of drugs. To review here. Morris died because he was trying to steal something. Cops were called. They tried to arrest him because theft is illegal, FYI. He ran, assaulted officers, tried to use a deadly weapon.

and all of that commotion eventually killed him due in large part to the cocktail of illegal drugs that he had put into his body. Who is to blame here? Is it the cops who tried to arrest a man who committed a crime and then defended themselves against his violent attack? Or is it the man who took a bunch of drugs, tried to steal something, then attacked the officers who came to arrest him? Who should we blame? It's a tough call, isn't it? Actually, no, it's not. It's not a tough call at all.

This is pretty straightforward. And amid all this talk about accountability, holding police accountable, how about some very basic accountability for people like Lionel Morris? In all of these cases, that part of it is always left out. What could the cops have done differently? Okay, what could Lionel Morris have done differently? I can think of dozens of things he could have done differently. Certainly several big ones.

Like, don't steal. If you do steal and the cops come, okay, they have every right to arrest you. You are trying to commit a crime. We live in a civilized society. We have laws. If you break them, you get arrested. So don't run. If you do try to make a run for it, which seems like a really bad idea, because you're, you know, first of all, the woman that you're with is not running.

So they've got her, they're going to find you. You're on surveillance footage. you're not going to get away. So running makes no sense at all. There's no reason to do it. But so don't do that. Even if you do do that, don't then assault the police officer

when they finally catch up to you. And even if you do all of those things, don't take a bunch of potentially lethal drugs ahead of time that could, you know, result in your death. I mean, you know, that's a list of what, four or five things that Lion Morris could have done differently. And if he had made a different choice on any one of those things, okay, just, if he had, take any one of those points, if he had made a different choice, he'd be alive today. And it's not a high bar either, right? Like,

don't take a bunch of drugs, try to steal something, and then assault the officers who come to arrest you. That is not a high bar to get over. It's not like we're experiencing. We're expecting something unreasonable of Lionel Morris in this case. He made a whole series of really, really bad choices, and then he died. It's very sad. It's always sad when someone dies. It's always sad, especially when someone chooses to throw their own life away for no reason. Any death is sad, but a death, because you wanted to buy yourself a few minutes of not being

custody after you tried to steal a drone from a grocery store? It's like you're going to throw your life away over that. It's a really sad thing. But it's not a moral outrage. There's no injustice here. So we know what Lionel Morris could have done differently. Very obvious. If you want to start picking apart the police officers and Monday morning quarterbacking it, what what could they have done differently? Let's go through the chain of events on the part of the officers. They get a call that someone's trying to steal

at a store. They respond to the call. We all agree they should do that, right? They're not going to ignore it. They show up to the scene. They investigate the situation. We all agree they should do that, right? They're going to go up to Lionel Morris

and the woman that he's with. They're going to ask some question. they find that he's removed a drone from the packaging and left it, you know, on a shelf and has put the drone somewhere. Pretty good evidence that he's trying to steal it. You don't do that if you're planning to pay for it. So now they know, or it seems very clear that he was trying to commit a crime. So they're going to arrest him. Is that a problem? I mean, he was trying to commit a crime. Again, we do live in a civilized society with laws. I know the left would prefer if we didn't, but we do. and it's their job to enforce them.

So they try to arrest them. So far, they've done nothing wrong. Okay. Now, let's compare the chain of events. We've got parallel actions and choices of the officers and Lionel Morris. It's parallel until they intersect. These parallel choices, so far the officers have done nothing wrong. Lionel Morris already has made a series of really bad choices,

taking a bunch of drugs, trying to steal something. And now there's the intersection. They try to make the arrest. He runs. what do they do here do you expect them to say oh never mind oh he's he's running guys forget it forget it forget it let's go of course they're going to chase him they have to he's they're trying to arrest him he ran away because the only other option there is to say well uh if you get arrested and you run then you're you're home free you we might as well not have police at that point so they try to chase

him down uh can't blame him for that once they get him now he's someone who's resisting you know this This is a big, this is a man. This is a, you know, a younger, you know, this is not like a young child that they're trying to apprehend here. This is a grown man that they're trying to apprehend. He obviously is resisting. So they have to use force to bring him down. Now he's putting them in chokeholds. He's trying to grab for a weapon. He is now a lethal threat to them. And so they don't pull out a gun and shoot him. They try to use a taser. They use less lethal means. and finally they get him down and they're just they're holding him on the ground while they try to cuff him. Amid all that chaos, we've already established that leading up to the chaos, the officers did everything right.

I mean, there's nothing, what else could they have done while Lionel Morris was doing everything wrong? But even amid all the case, what else do you want them to do? They're trying to, it's a difficult thing. If you've never tried to do it, I've never done it. I'll put it this way. I'll take the police word for it, that when you're trying to cuff a grown man who doesn't want to be cuffed, that's a difficult thing. It's not easily done. And it requires some force.

That seems logical to me. I'll buy that. I can believe that. And so, yes, they've gotten down the ground. They've got a, they're not on his neck. They've got a knee on the back. How else are they going to affect the arrest? What else do you want them to do?

And then he dies. because largely he was on a cocktail of drugs. If he wasn't on those drugs, he'd be alive. So it just seems pretty obvious to me who is responsible here. And maybe at a certain point we could start just holding people accountable, not just police officers, other people too, accountable for their own actions. A really basic bar that we could say to people, you know, you really got to get over that bar.

Society expects that of you. I think that should be our message as well. So that false narrative is canceled. A lot of cancellations today. Been good. A lot of fun. We'll leave it there. Thanks for watching, everybody.

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