The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 697 - The “Influencers” Who Prey On Your Children

Episode Date: April 9, 2021

Today on the Matt Walsh Show, one of the most famous and influential YouTube stars on the planet is, allegedly, a sex predator who preys on young boys. This is not a huge surprise but it does raise a ...question: Do you know what your kids are doing online, and who they are being influenced by? Also Five Headlines including Joe Biden’s gun control push, another SHOCKING twist in an alleged hate crime case, and a Republican legislator sparks controversy by comparing abortion to slavery. But is he right? Yes, he is. I’ll explain why. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today on the Matt Wall Show, one of the most famous and influential YouTube stars on the planet is allegedly a sex predator who preys on young boys. Not a huge surprise, but it does raise a question, do you know what your kids are doing online and who they're being influenced by? Also, five headlines, including Joe Biden's gun control push, another shocking twist in an alleged hate crime case, and a Republican legislator sparks controversy by comparing abortion to slavery. But is he right? Well, yes, he is. I'll explain why. Plus, our Daily Cancel. reading the comments and much more today on the Matt Walls show. You know, when running a business, HR issues are the thing that can really kill you. I hear this from business owners all the time. Wrongful termination suits, minimum wage requirements, labor regulations.
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Starting point is 00:01:39 You got nothing to lose with the H.R audit. Go to Bambi.com slash Walsh right now to schedule your free H.R. audit. That's Bambi.com slash Walsh. Spel BAMB-E-E-E-D-C-Walsh. Since the advent of modern media, you know, it's been a challenge for parents to keep track of the celebrities and public figures who are influencing their children. I was a kid in the 90s, and it wasn't easy for our parents. but at least back then, an adult who wanted to know what the kids are into these days always knew basically where to look.
Starting point is 00:02:08 All they had to do was turn on MTV or a handful of other cable channels, and they could get a view of pop culture basically in its entirety. They may not have liked what they found, but I know that my dad certainly didn't. But what they found on TV was pretty much all there was, right, as far as pop culture goes, for the most part. They didn't have to worry that there was more weirder and darker stuff lurking out there somewhere in the shadows. The situation is very different now. Pop culture is more ubiquitous, but also more spread out, more obscure, harder for a parent to get a handle on. And kids spend much more of their time, much more of their time absorbed in it, like pretty much every second of their day in many cases, absorbed in it. They may still watch a little bit of traditional TV, or maybe not, probably not, but most of their time certainly is spent online.
Starting point is 00:03:03 And in every sphere where they go, YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, et cetera, et cetera, including websites that I probably don't even know about. There are these celebrity-like figures who now just go by the title influencer, because literally their only job is to influence the audience. That's kids today, they live in a world run by content creators and influencers. And think about those titles. The ambiguity of those titles is the point. Because it doesn't matter what the content is. The point simply is to make content, any content, and influence. It's not like the influence is a byproduct of the music they're making or the art they're producing. Now, there still are singers and other artists who are also influencing. But for people who are just influenced, that's all they do. Nothing else. They don't create anything. They don't do anything. They simply, their only job is to influence.
Starting point is 00:03:54 and a lot of times they're influencing your kid. Now, influence to what end? In what direction? Well, that often depends on the corporate sponsors backing these people. The challenge for parents is that these influencers rise to prominence quickly, seemingly out of nowhere, sometimes falling out of favor as rapidly as they rose into it, like sort of like quarks popping in and out of existence. For parents, it's like an infinite game of whack-a-mole. The result is that if your child spends a lot of time online, there are going to be influencers,
Starting point is 00:04:24 them that you haven't even heard of, despite the fact that they're massively popular, wealthy, and backed by the biggest brands in the world. A kid in the 60s had, you know, the Beatles. A kid today has a million different versions of the Beatles in a million different places, and all of them have direct, sustained, and sometimes personal access to him. So that's all a long preamble to bring up the name James Charles. I've mentioned him on the show before. I mentioned him again yesterday on Twitter, for a reason that I'll explain in just a moment, but to prove my point, a large number of my followers, many of whom are older, and when I say older, I mean like my age, told me that they had never heard of the guy and had no idea why I would
Starting point is 00:05:04 bring up such an obscure, irrelevant figure. Well, James Charles is a YouTube and Instagram influencer. He has 25 million subscribers on YouTube. 25 million. Think about that. 27 million Instagram followers. He's also been sponsored by or worked with a number of major multi-million dollar brands, starting with Cover Girl back in 2016. Charles is specifically a beauty influencer. He models makeup. And as we're told, where we were told, with great fanfare a few years ago, he was the first male cover girl in history, which was supposed to be a big deal. He's also allegedly a sex predator. Charles, who is a 21-year-old man, has been repeatedly accused of sexting, sending new pictures to, and trying to solicit sex from a series of underage
Starting point is 00:05:54 boys. The accusations have come from boys as young as 14. Now, Charles, in an apology video posted to YouTube a few days ago, confessed actually to messaging a couple of these alleged victims, in this case a couple 16-year-old boys, by far not the only boys to have accused him. But he confessed to having messaged them. But he also said that he didn't know their age. And after some self-reflection and, quote, research, he decided that he shouldn't be involved with them. Let's listen to that. Within the past couple of weeks, two different people, both under the age of 18, have recently come forward saying that they had inappropriate messages to me on social media.
Starting point is 00:06:31 One of them being from last year and one of them being from more recent. In both of these cases, I added these people on Snapchat, asked how old they were right away, was old that they were 18, believed them, engaged in authority conversation, and then later on found out that they were actually 16. Upon finding out, I was immediately embarrassed and blocked both people. Later on, when I saw them making videos about it and those videos going viral, my immediate reaction completely honestly was to be really, really upset. I wanted to get on camera and film another No More Lies video
Starting point is 00:07:01 where I gather all my receipts and all my screenshots and try to tell my side of the story and then just move on from the situation. And now, looking back, that was so stupid because as I did more research on these topics and self-reflected, I realized that the receipts and the screenshots and the specific details of the interaction really don't matter because I f***ed up. He did some research. He had to do some research to find out about, you know, whether he should be messaging underage
Starting point is 00:07:29 boys, I guess. I don't know. Now, as I said, those are only two of the accusations and not even the most serious ones. In that same video, he also justified his actions on a basis that he's lonely and desperate. In the past, he's admitted publicly that he's not attracted to older guys. Although he did say, you know, he likes him younger, but he said only down to 18, he said. During an appearance on the Impulsive podcast, another really popular thing that your kid probably listens to and you may not have heard of, he seemingly admitted that he has on multiple occasions at least attempted to fly high school boys out to meet him. Let's listen to that.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Talk to the guys that live in different states and stuff. And I'm like, hey, like, why don't you come visit? Like, well, I can't afford a plane ticket. And it's like, okay, well, I can. So, like, get on the plane. And like, well, I just don't really feel comfortable with that. But, like, I love you and I really want to be together. And I'm like, well, we can't be together because you can't afford a plane ticket.
Starting point is 00:08:25 You're probably still in either high school or college, like a senior in high school or in college. Right. So either you accept the flight and realize that, like, this is what I am bringing to the relationship. So we can spend time together if you actually care about me or we literally never meet because you can't afford it. That's the closest thing to an admission of a felony sex crime that you're likely to ever hear on a podcast. At least I hope. So this is a man multiply accused of soliciting sex from children who's come very close to confessing to the charge on multiple occasions publicly in front of an audience of millions. And yet he remains on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:09:01 His videos are still monetized. As far as I know, he hasn't even been suspended. His corporate backers, sponsors, affiliates have almost all remained silent. and he's got a lot of them. There's little media coverage of the scandal, little public outrage. It's not hard to see why. Charles was hailed by the left and the media five years ago
Starting point is 00:09:22 when he became the historic world's first cover boy, right? And he's a homosexual man celebrated for breaking gender barriers and so on. Now, for this man to also be a sex predator and for the left in the media to be responsible for putting him in a position to pray on boys, well, that's just untenable. They can never accept that or admit to it, ever. Especially because people like me, you know, the backwards, old-fashioned types,
Starting point is 00:09:54 we took one look at this guy and immediately said that he clearly has serious issues. We were labeled bigots for that. I mean, the left can never admit that we were right, because then they'd have to ask why. we were right? How could we have been right? I mean, why is it that some of us would look at James Charles, listen to him for five seconds, and come to the conclusion that he has to put it mildly issues? Why is it that those of us who knew about this guy and then heard that he's trying to pick up young boys, why is it that we would respond by saying, well, yeah, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:38 no surprise there. How did we come to that conclusion? This is a dangerous conversation for the left and one they don't want to have. They want us to believe it's entirely healthy and a laudable thing for a man to reject his masculinity to this extent. Those of us who say that it is perhaps a troubling sign, a sign of something unhealthy psychologically, are labeled bigots and phobes of various sorts. We can't be allowed to have been right. That can't be permitted. So they'll just ignore it. James Charles will continue praying on children, allegedly. He'll continue being an enormously influential figure, maybe even influential to your own children, unless you step in between to protect your kids from these predators and degenerates, which you should. And I hope you
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Starting point is 00:13:32 I should mention that I did go out yesterday and buy a gun myself. I figured it was, you know, good time to do this. that, especially with all these, with Joe Biden in office. And, you know, I have to say, aside from the fact that I had to show an ID and give lots of personal information and fill out a questionnaire about my mental health and criminal history and wait for the background check to clear and pay hundreds of dollars, it was so much easier than voting. Except for all of those things, it was so much easier than voting, except for all of the things that made it way more difficult than voting. It was. It was so much easier than voting. it was a lot easier.
Starting point is 00:14:13 That was just my experience. And that, of course, is I'm in Tennessee. In many other states, it's going to be to getting a gun is far more difficult than that. And you have to wait a lot more than a few minutes for the background check to clear. Anyway, Joe Biden announced executive orders to enact gun control. Fox has some details about that. It says, an administration official detailed the actions to reporters on Wednesday. Among them, Biden is asking the Justice Department to propose within a month,
Starting point is 00:14:39 within a month a rule to stop quote unquote ghost guns, which are kits people can buy legally to assemble a functioning firearms that does not have a serial number. Biden is also asking the DOJ to propose within 60 days. By the way, I'm sure that your average criminal looking to commit a crime is taking the time to assemble their own gun, right? I'm sure that's what's happening in most cases. Biden is also asking the DOJ to propose within 60 days a rule on braces, is used for handguns, which make them more accurate, to propose action on community violence
Starting point is 00:15:13 intervention to publish suggestions for red flag legislation and is asking his administration to issue a report on gun trafficking. So those are all the things that he's thinking of doing. And a lot of it is purposefully vague. Like there's more to come. So we're not told everything that's going to happen here. And that's part of the point. Here is Joe Biden announcing this and talking specifically about the constitutional concerns and then promptly dismissing all of those concerns. Let's listen. Today we're taking steps to confront not just the gun crisis, but what is actually a public health crisis. Nothing, nothing I'm about to recommend in any way impinges on the Second Amendment. They're phony arguments suggesting that these are Second Amendment rights at stake
Starting point is 00:16:01 from what we're talking about. But no amendment, no amendment to the the Constitution is absolute. You can't yell fire in a crowd a movie theater. We call a freedom of speech. From the very beginning, you couldn't own any weapon you wanted to own. From the very beginning of the Second Amendment existed, certain people weren't allowed to have weapons. So the idea is just bizarre to suggest that some of the things we're recommending are contrary to the Constitution. Gun violence in this country is an epidemic. Let me say it again. Gun violence in this is an epidemic and it's an international embarrassment. You can't yell crowd in a fired movie theater?
Starting point is 00:16:44 He actually trotted out that old thing. You have to remember when you're hearing a Democrat talk about the Constitution, they are very, very selective in the way that they choose to interpret it and which amendments are absolute and which aren't. These are simply not serious people when it comes to a constitutional interpretation or anything else. Keep in mind that these are the same people, Joe Biden, among them, who would tell you and have told you and insisted upon this for the last four decades, that the Constitution guarantees the right to abortion, even though abortion is not mentioned in the
Starting point is 00:17:27 Constitution or hinted at or referenced or, or there is no language at all in the Constitution that comes anywhere close to abortion, and yet they'll say the Constitution absolutely guarantees the right to abortion. And they hinge that right on the constitutional right to privacy, even though that's also not in the Constitution. The word privacy doesn't appear. So they have located the right to abortion, which does not exist in the Constitution.
Starting point is 00:18:04 which does not exist in the Constitution, in the right to privacy, which also does not exist. And yet they can do all of that fancy footwork and all those maneuvers. And they can pull out their decoder pen and, you know, they're looking at the invisible ink and they're putting things together. And they're approaching it like a word search. They're circling search. Oh, there's an A here. Look, a B, O, R. You see, it's all coming together.
Starting point is 00:18:28 They can do that for abortion. And yet somehow the Second Amendment, which is. perhaps the clearest amendment in the entire document, that doesn't guarantee the right to bear arms. With that, all of a sudden now they're saying, well, what's the original intent? But now you care about original intent? Do you think the founding fathers originally intended to codify the right to kill your baby in the womb? Was that their original intent? Joe Biden also makes a series of just straight up false claims, like we always get,
Starting point is 00:19:08 One of them, of course, being this claim, I don't think he says it here. He probably, he might have. But one of them, of course, the claim about it's harder to get a gun than vote. Totally false. Here's a false claim that he said this time about how easy it is allegedly to get a gun at a gun show. Let's listen. These bills, one, require background checks for anyone purchasing a gun at a gun show or an online sale. Most people don't know. You walk into a store and you buy a gun, you have a background check. But you go to a gun show, you can buy whatever you want and no background check. Most people don't know that because it's not true. You know, there's a lot of things that most people don't know. Most people don't know that cows can fly to the moon. A cow can fly to the moon. Most people don't know that.
Starting point is 00:20:02 When you make up facts, you can always make up facts that people don't know. It's a lot of fun, actually. No, that's not true at all. I wish it were. That'd be a lot of fun. I wish I could just walk into a gun show, get any gun I want. Maybe they hand you an AR-15 walking in the door for free. You know, or it's like a, it's a, when I used to go to birthday parties as a kid,
Starting point is 00:20:25 they'd give you these party bags on the way out the door, you know? Because all the kids had to get, we were the participation trophy generation, so all the kids had to get gifts at a birthday party. Otherwise, it wouldn't be fair. Anyway, I wish there was a gift bag when you leave the gun show. Got an AR-15 in there, you know. that would be fun, but that's not how it works. It's not true at all. And Jen Saki was asked about this, like 30 minutes later, about this thing. You just heard Joe Biden say that, right? And here's Jen Saki denying that Joe Biden said the thing that we all just heard him say.
Starting point is 00:20:59 The president said a moment ago, quote, you go to a gun show. You can buy whatever you want. No background check. Is there a special exemption in federal law that he was referring to or just do FLA dealers? not have to do background checks when they're at a gun show. Are you asking me if he was referring? No, it's okay. Were you asking me if he was referring to like a specific circumstance? I'm sorry, just tell me a little bit more about your question. I mean, is it the president's belief that you do not have to undergo a background check when you are at a gun show?
Starting point is 00:21:31 No, it's not his belief. He believes that background check should be universal. Right, but he says no background check. Well, we know what his position is, right? So let me reiterate that, which is that got background checks or something that should be universal. They're supported by more than 80% of the public. He's supported legislation, advocated for that, and advocated against loopholes as well. So that's his position, and I appreciate you asking for the clarification.
Starting point is 00:21:57 You can always tell when Jen Sock is about to lie because her tell is that she acts confused by a really basic, straightforward question. that's when you know she's geared because her she's trying to think of what the lie is going to be and she's buying a little bit of time i don't blame her it is a tough job i would think um and why a person with a soul and integrity probably shouldn't accept it to be a you know the white house spokesperson and you know you're going to have to get up there and lie every single day so this is her tell she acts like she's confused so she's asked uh well president Biden just said that you need a background you don't need a background check at a guy show. Is that true? What do you mean? I don't understand your question. Could you rephrase it? I'm trying to understand. I really want to understand. I just don't understand that question you just
Starting point is 00:22:45 asked. And then she says that no, he doesn't believe that. So he lied then. She bought herself time to tell her lie and it wasn't even very good one because what she said is no, but you know, president doesn't believe that. He doesn't believe what he said. Huh. What do we call that? Well, you say something that you don't believe. What is that? It's a lie. Right. Okay. Well, thanks for clarifying that, Jen. All right, number two, there were reports, speaking of lies, reports last week about racist graffiti, the good old racist graffiti gambit. Racist graffiti found around campus at a college called Albion College in Michigan. The graffiti said, here's what the graffiti said. KKK white power, die N-words, please. and we do exist KKK. And then there was a Star of David with the number 6, 6, 6 written across it.
Starting point is 00:23:44 I guess it was supposed to be an anti-Semitic thing. Now, this was a big deal locally. Got a lot of attention. The students protested. We got some footage of that. They're a pretty long line of them. This is a small college, but it looks like they all came out. Look at them all marching.
Starting point is 00:23:58 They all came out to march against racism on campus. And then what is it? I don't have to tell you what happens next, do I? You already know. You heard racist graffiti. And if you've been paying attention at all over the last 10 years, you know exactly where this is headed. It was a hoax.
Starting point is 00:24:15 It was a black student that wrote the graffiti. You know, even without the history, even without knowing the history, you probably would have already guessed that this is a hoax. Because this just isn't KKK white power. Who do you think is going to sincerely write? that. Even if it was an actual white racist. Why would they write that? But as we've covered many times, you know, people who want to invent hate crimes and turn themselves into a victim, they have a lot of trouble doing it persuasively and convincingly because they really have not
Starting point is 00:24:58 encountered a lot of racism from white people. So they don't even know what that would be like. If racism from white people was common in this country, number one, you wouldn't have to invent it. You wouldn't have to make it up. And number two, if you did make it up, you would have encountered it so often that you should be able to make it up and impersonate it convincingly. But this is obviously someone who has never encountered a white racist in his entire life. he has no idea what a white racist would say, which is good, by the way. He's never encountered one. That's a great thing.
Starting point is 00:25:35 We should celebrate that. So instead he bases it off of like movies that he saw in TV shows and stuff. That's one way that you know that it's a hoax. And the other way you know it's a hoax is that as far as I can remember, and correct me if I'm wrong, I'll least say this. I cannot think in the last 20 years, I cannot think of a single case where so-called racist graffiti or a racist note less than, on a receipt or left on someone's car windshield or slipped under their door, turned out to be sincere. Every single case that I can think of, they were all hoaxes. Has there been even one real case? I'm assuming just a law of averages. There have to have been, right? The last 20 years
Starting point is 00:26:19 I have to have been at least a couple of these racist graffiti cases that was actually done by a white person. Maybe. Anyway, M-Live has the report says Albion College and the Albion Department of Public Safety says that a student is responsible for racist graffiti found in a dorm last weekend. Albion Police brought the 21-year-old blackmail in for questioning on April 6th.
Starting point is 00:26:44 The student admitted to creating most of the graffiti and video evidence from Albion's campus safety department confirms the statements made by the student. So I take it from that that he was on security camera footage. They said video evidence confirms it. So I'm assuming that probably he was right in front of a security camera scrolling this thing. When it comes to hate crime hoaxes, they're really not sending their best. But here's the response to this from Albion College.
Starting point is 00:27:16 And I could be pronouncing the name of the college wrong. Never heard of them before now. But here's what they tweeted. They put this out, I think it was yesterday. This is after it was already known who was responsible for this. and this is their tweet, okay? They said, earlier today, we identified the individual responsible
Starting point is 00:27:32 for the racist and anti-Semitic graffiti in Mitchell Towers. The student who is acting alone acknowledged our responsibility for these incidents. They have been immediately removed from campus and placed on temporary suspension while we conduct a full investigation
Starting point is 00:27:44 as part of our student judicial process. But we know the acts of racism that have occurred this week are not about one particular person or one particular incident. We know that there's a significant history of racial pain and trauma on campus and we're taking action to repair our community.
Starting point is 00:27:59 We will change and heal together as a community because we are committed to doing the work. Right now, we encourage all members of our community to listen, respond, and care for one another and lean on the faculty staff and community members who have been gathering today to make sure we're supporting you. We have your back. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Aside from the normal tripe about we'll do the work, we're committed, the phrase do the work has become to me as grating and annoying as the phrase lived experience. and they're always said by the, usually in the same sentence, by the same sorts of people. I'm surprised lived experience didn't appear in this statement here. We'll do the work to understand your lived experience. But do you notice, so we got to do the work, we got the buzzwords and everything.
Starting point is 00:28:43 You notice what's missing from this statement? They never say it was a hoax. They never say that it was a black student who did it. In fact, they intentionally give the impression that it was. was a white student. They don't say that, but they tie all this into historic racism, racial trauma, so on and so forth. They're clearly trying to give the impression without saying it that the graffiti really was done by a white racist. That's the way the school has decided to handle it. And if that doesn't work, then they will at least try to disperse the
Starting point is 00:29:23 blame, you know, we're not going to blame this one individual. We're going to blame the institutions. This is not about one particular person. It's about a history of racial pain. No, it is definitely about one particular person. It's about the guy who did it. A guy who, they say is kicked off a campus, that's good. He should also be charged with a crime. You know, a hate crime hoax is a hate crime. I'm not a fan of the hate crime designation. at all. I don't think it should exist, but as long as it does, it should be used equally and in a way that's at least sort of coherent. And what that means is that a hate crime hoax should be considered a hate crime. It is a hate crime against the group of people that you're trying to frame. That's what it's a hate crime against. So a black student putting that graffiti up, pretending that a white racist did it, that is a hate crime against white students.
Starting point is 00:30:23 He is trying to inflame hatred towards the white students. And, guilt by association, he's trying to, you know, defame them as racist. That's the way we should. That's the way these things should be handled. All right. Next year, we have a report here from KFOR in Oklahoma, local news affiliate there, over the controversy surrounding a Republican legislator who, while arguing in favor of pro-life legislation, compared abortion to slavery. And this is a big controversy. We're supposed to be upset about this. Let's listen to the news report. Representative Jim Olson was introducing his bill to the House Public Health Committee when he made these comments that immediately sparked outrage from some of his fellow house members.
Starting point is 00:31:13 What was going through my head was shocked and appalled. A controversial comparison made in a debate over an abortion bill. Republican Representative Jim Olson introducing his bill that would make performing an abortion a felony. In his argument, comparing the fight to abolish abortion to allow a law. long push to abolish slavery. This is absolutely worth doing, even if it takes a long time. But that message was amiss for some in the room. Saving the lives of an unborn child is more important than saving the lives of slaves. None of us would like to be a slave. If I had my
Starting point is 00:31:51 choice, I guess I'd be a slave. At least the slave has his life. Later, Representative Olson doubling down, saying it's in no way an endorsement of slavery. In the context of history, In history in general, I did compare one evil to another. And very frankly, I make no apology for it. That's triggering. That's traumatizing. That's hurtful. Oh, shut up.
Starting point is 00:32:17 You were traumatized, were you? By someone making a point rhetorically? You were traumatized by that. You're suffering trauma. You have to go to therapy now. That's trauma. Okay, trauma is like someone survives a plane crash, okay? Trauma is someone who was sexually abused as a child.
Starting point is 00:32:35 That's trauma. Trauma is not a guy made a point you disagreed with. This Jim Olson guy, I don't know anything about him, but based on that alone, I like him. And the suggestion that he was defending slavery, but what? He was, that was exactly the opposite point he was trying to make. He's trying to make a point about how evil abortion is by comparing it to slavery. Now, you could disagree, but. to suggest that he was what?
Starting point is 00:33:07 What was the phrase that he was defending slavery or justifying it? That's exactly the opposite of what he was saying. And in fact, as it happens, that I've made this point myself many times, there is a similarity here. There's a similarity because what you find throughout history is that, and this is true today, and it goes going all the way back, and this has always been the case in human society, unfortunately, that there are always groups of people who are pointing to other groups of people and saying that those people aren't people.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Throughout history, you always have that. You have some people trying to deperson other people. And this comes in various different forms and always leads to atrocity and death and oppression and horrible, horrible things. And what you find is that, and this is a really important point, that the people who are doing this, who are doing the depersoning, they always make the same kinds of arguments, always. It never changes. For thousands of years, it has hardly changed. No, I've, this is something I go through in a lot of my speeches, but I'll go through it here, just to make that point, as the point's been raised. In fact, I was giving a speech right to life
Starting point is 00:34:25 here in Nashville in Tennessee a couple days ago, and I went through the same thing. So, let's go through it, Okay, just to make the point. Every pro-abortion argument mirrors arguments, pro-slavery arguments from the 19th century. And let's go through them. There's the argument from ownership. This slave-slash-baby is my property-slash-body. You can't tell me what to do with it. There's the argument from privacy.
Starting point is 00:34:55 No one is forcing you to have slaves-slaves-abortions. Mind your own business. There's the argument from superseding rights. My property slash body autonomy rights come before the rights of a slave slash fetus. There's the argument from inevitability. Slavery slash abortion has been around for thousands of years. It's never going away. We might as well have a safe and legal system in place for it.
Starting point is 00:35:14 There's the argument from pseudoscience. Slaves slash fetuses aren't really people. They aren't like us. Look at them. They're physically different. Therefore, we are human and they are not. There's the argument from socioeconomics. If slavery slash abortion ends, most of these slaves slash babies will end up on the street without a job.
Starting point is 00:35:30 There's the argument from the courts. This is a big one. Slavery slash abortion has been vindicated by the Supreme Court. It's settled law. There's the argument from faux compassion. Slavery slash abortion is in the best interest of the African slash babies. The world can be a cruel place. It's best to protect them by keeping them enslaved slash killing them. Then there's the argument from the assumed hypocrisy of the other side. You say you want to end slavery slash abortion, but you don't want to live with free blacks slash adopt unwanted babies yourself. And that's only a partial list. Every single one directly correlates with arguments made today for abortion. And finally, we have time for this. Yeah, we'll make time because we've got to make time for this. You know, I love playing the TikTok videos for you. And here's a good one. No introduction needed. Here's another TikTok woman screaming in her car.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Always fun. Let's watch. So fucking done with this world. I'm so down. It's me. And you're... Okay. First of all, if you have trouble breathing, calm down. Stop screaming. This is not, this is not helping your asthma. I'll tell you that much.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Second of all, mind your own business. My body, my choice, right? Remember? One of the pro-abortion arguments. Except it actually like really applies here, whereas it doesn't apply for abortion because, again, as we talked about, they've talked about many times. Abortion is the direct killing of, of another person is the direct destruction of another person's body. Not wearing a mask is not the direct destruction of another person's body. By not wearing a mask, you are not intentionally and directly killing another person. You're not. Anyone who says you are is insane, a lunatic and should be disregarded. So in this case, I'll say, yeah, my body, my choice.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Simple as that. I don't want to wear it, so I'm not going to. But I do also have to say, you know, with all due respect, She says that she's the only one doing anything for her health and she's trying to look out for health. Well, the number one risk factor for COVID, yeah, asthma is not good, but really the number one risk factor is obesity. And we're a year into this thing. And you say that you care, you're taking this so seriously, right? You're taking it so seriously.
Starting point is 00:38:50 And your health is so important to you. but you haven't, you're still very overweight. And so you're in a high risk category. If you were taking your health as that, that seriously, you'd be taking care of that. Because that's something that you can do yourself. Can't blame anyone else for that. That is something you can do. And if you did, it would lower your COVID risk substantially. So if you're not even doing that, then I guess I question how seriously you're really taking it. All right. Let's move on to quickly reading a few of these comments here. Anna says, thanks for talking about aging. I'm tired of this youth-obsessed society, how society pretends no one ages. And if they do, there's something wrong
Starting point is 00:39:33 with them. Yeah, well, and that, as we talked about yesterday, it's partially a symptom of our fear of death. We probably live in one of the most death-phobic societies in human history. human beings have always been afraid of death, but we are so, pardon the phrase, dead set on denying it, not thinking about it, avoiding it. To an extent that I think sets us apart from many other human societies in history. And that's a symptom of that. It's also one of the reasons why, and I've never understood this, why asking somebody their age is like embarrassing. You're not supposed to ask that question. that is a social convention that I think is so ridiculous and I reject it and I don't I ask people their age all the time I don't care how old or young they seem to be because sometimes it could be something you're curious about it kind of it relates to the conversation you're having I have no problem so how old are you and yeah oftentimes people will look at you like you just ask them how much money they have in their bank account or you know if they have herpes or something like they they
Starting point is 00:40:45 look at you like you've just asked this incredibly personal. It's not. Who cares? It's your age. It's simply how long you've been on earth. Why is that a really personal, embarrassing detail? I don't get it. If you've been around a long time, that's good. You should be proud of that. It's not embarrassing. So what? If you're 52, you're embarrassed that you've been, it's embarrassing that you've been on earth for 52 years? You would rather that you've only been on earth for 22? two? Why? If anything, it's embarrassing to be younger because it means you have less experience, less wisdom, less credibility in a lot of areas. I like getting old. I can't wait to be older. Once I get to like 70, you know, that's going to be, that's really, I've been, I've been 70 years
Starting point is 00:41:36 old really spiritually my whole life. And so when I get to 70, that's when I will know that I'm home. Let's see. T. Smith says, hey, Matt, just listen to. here a rumination on the meaning of life for non-religious people. We're reminded of a segment a while back when you critiqued Sam Harris's position on free will. Are you up on Sam's philosophy relating to the meaning of life from his waking up podcast? I'd be curious to hear your thoughts. I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to. I did hear a clip of his a while ago that someone sent me that I thought was interesting
Starting point is 00:42:08 where he talks about the reality of death and how to live in spite of the fact that we're going to die. And he's approaching this as an atheist. I think he did his, he does as good a job as an atheist can do in dealing with that subject. And basically, basically explaining how you can live with joy and purpose, even knowing from the atheist perspective, that you're soon going to be dead and erased from existence and everyone's going to forget about you and you will just evaporate into the ether and nothing you ever did will matter. Like, even knowing that, how do you live with joy and purpose?
Starting point is 00:42:40 Sam Harris, I've heard him address that a few times. He does as good a job as you could possibly do with that. But that's still not very good, because you can't get around on the atheist worldview, the inherent meaningless of life. You can't get around it. And finally, Tristan says, would I be wrong in thinking that as a species, we are sick and insane? No, you would not. In fact, that's a go from the atheist worldview to the Christian worldview. That is one of the fundamental facets of the Christian worldview.
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Starting point is 00:45:10 Now, the bill, they bill themselves as an impartial, in quote, impartial LGBT plus news organization. Now, my first issue here off the bat is that they've left off the Q. I'm not sure why that is. This has been a really bad year for the letter Q, I think. But in any case, openly published a lengthy thread, which went viral. And it's supposed to demonstrate the validity of, quote, non-binary identities by showing that cultures across the world have their own versions of non-binary or trans people. Now, many on the left think they succeeded.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Now, I think they succeeded, too. It's just that they succeeded in proving my point, not their own point. So let's take a look at the thread. This is what they said. Quote, the gender binaries of male and female aren't as universal as you think. From Samoa to Albania, here are eight cultures throughout history showing that the concept of non-binary gender is far from new. Now, we'll stop right there for a second. This is a tactic that the left likes to trot out from time to time, usually in an effort to normalize one of their preferred
Starting point is 00:46:07 lifestyles, but this strategy creates some problems for the people who use it. The problem is that the, look, other cultures in the world agree with me, knife, cuts both ways. There are many societies across the globe still today and certainly throughout history that, for example, considered homosexuality to be sinful. In many cultures, there are still very traditional ideas about the role of women. There are plenty of cultures where fathers decide who their daughters marry and so on. if we're meant to embrace gender fluidity because other cultures allegedly practice it, then should we also revert back to traditional marriage and patriarchal family structures on the same basis? Oh, no, of course not.
Starting point is 00:46:45 No, we're supposed to celebrate and embrace other cultures based entirely on how those cultures conform to Western liberal ideas. That's what the left thinks. I don't know about you, but that sounds a little, what's the word they like to use? colonialist to me. Now let's look at the examples they provide. We'll go through some of these. Two-spirit, North America. Identifying with masculinity and femininity,
Starting point is 00:47:13 indigenous North American two-spirit people are often said to contain both male and female spirits. They're often revealed in their communities, seen as a channel between the physical and the spiritual. Then we go to Samoa, identifying as a separate gender, fafines. I'm going to mispronounce a lot of stuff when I read this, but just go with me. Fa fanines roles in society moves fluidly between the traditional male and female. While they're
Starting point is 00:47:39 assigned male at birth, Samoa also recognizes Fa Fatima, an equally fluid gender for those assigned female at birth. And we go to South Asia, the Hedros. They say the centuries-old third gender associated with sacred powers usually refers to those assigned male at birth but don't identify as such. In 2014, India legally recognized hedra's as a third gender after they were criminalized by the British in 1871. Then we have the sworn virgins in Albania. In this dying practice, women take on the social identity of a man for life while taking a vow of chastity. By taking on this identity, they're elevated to the status of a man entitled to the rights and privileges of the patriarchy. Then we go to the Mettis in Nepal, officially recognized as a third gender in Nepal in 2007, Mettis have a third gender in Nepal in 2007.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Metis have a long history in the Himalayan region. Assigned male at birth, they assume a traditional feminine appearance. Nepal set a global precedent with a third gender category on official documents. And then finally, the Tom's in Thailand. One of the dozens or more common gender identities in Thailand, Tom's are women who adopt masculine mannerism and style while using male speech patterns. Tom's are often attracted to these women who follow traditional Thai gender norms. Okay. Let's run through a few issues here. First of all, we're just assuming for the sake of argument that all of the information provided here is actually correct. And that is a wild assumption and probably a bad one.
Starting point is 00:49:04 But that has to be our starting point for the sake of argument. Just remember to apply a healthy portion of salt to everything that you just heard. I don't even know if all that is true. For all I know, it's all false. For example, I do know that the two-spirit term, the first thing they mentioned for Native Americans, that term dates back to 1990. LGBT activists came up with it about 30 years ago. It's not some ancient idea stretching back into the distant past.
Starting point is 00:49:29 They just came up with this. I suspect if I researched all of these other examples, I would find similar caveats. But again, for the sake of argument, let's pretend that all of the information in the thread is correct and not at all misleading. On that assumption, it actually defeats the very point that it's supposed to make. Why? Well, first of all, in some of these cases, the supposedly non-binary identification is religious. in nature. We're told about the third gender people in South Asia who are believed to have sacred powers. But they don't really have sacred powers, of course. This is obviously an incorrect
Starting point is 00:50:03 belief about the way the world works. It's a doctrinal, religiously based belief. Some might call it superstitious. Now, there's nothing wrong with religious beliefs in principle. I have my own religious beliefs. Though it is interesting that leftists will laugh at Christian doctrine while asking us to take seriously the belief in mystical third-gendered people with sacred powers. This is not a comparison that works in the left's favor. Though ironically, I think it's pretty good comparison. You know, it works in my favor. I think it's, I think it's a, it actually is a pretty good comparison, but not for the
Starting point is 00:50:36 reasons that they think. Yes, it's true that the left's theories on gender are really religious more than anything. They, the left, I mean, they see gender as this mystical, supernatural thing. and that's how they come up with the concept of women being trapped in male bodies and so forth. If they would just come out and admit this, you know, if they would admit it and say that this is their religion, then I would say, fine, you're entitled to your religious beliefs, but don't try to force it on me and keep it out of the schools. But they won't admit that it's a religious belief, even as, in this case, they themselves compare it to the religious beliefs of other cultures. So that's one problem.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Second, finally. Notice something else about all these examples. In these other cultures, they may have men who take on a feminine appearance or women who take on a masculine appearance. But they don't think that the men actually are women, or the women actually are men. The tombs in Thailand are women with a masculine style. We used to have that here too. They were called tom boys. But in order to be a tom or tomb boy, you have to be a woman with a masculine style.
Starting point is 00:51:44 The fact that you are a woman is an essential. ingredient. It's what makes you that. In our culture, we're now supposed to believe that the women with masculine styles are actually, in reality, literally men, which means that they aren't women with masculine styles at all, but just men with regular style. The very thing that makes them different and supposedly special is removed by saying that they are the thing that they're dressing up as. This is the difference between our culture and every other one on the list. In every case, you know, There are people of one sex in these other cultures. There are people of one sex who, for one reason or another,
Starting point is 00:52:21 dress up as or act as members of the opposite sex. But nobody thinks that they actually are members of the opposite sex. The whole point is that they aren't, but are acting like it. That is completely different from what we do here now. All of this highlights, all it really highlights is that, in fact, the modern Western idea of gender is entirely unprecedented. It is a completely new, unheard-of thing in the world. The idea that a man can actually become a woman, not simply act like one or play the role of one, but become one, be one, is new and false.
Starting point is 00:53:01 And this line of argument presented by our friends at openly only underscores that very fact. It makes precisely the opposite point that it was trying to make. It proves the argument it was meant to debunk. So it is a very bad, stupid argument for them to present, but I appreciate it. And today, it gets them canceled. And that'll do it for us today and this week. Hope you have a great weekend. I'll talk to you on Monday.
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