The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 718 - Dreaming Of A World Where Michelle Obama And Oprah Winfrey Are No Longer Oppressed

Episode Date: May 10, 2021

Today on the Matt Walsh Show, Michelle Obama is once again complaining about the persecution she has suffered as a black woman in America. She’s not alone. LeBron James, Oprah Winfrey, Meghan Markle... and other black millionaires and billionaires have all frequently complained about our racist system of white privilege. Today we will reflect on their stories. Also Five Headlines including Dr. Fauci finally giving a definitive date for when we can return to normal. It’s a year away. And the CIA doubles down, releasing yet another woke ad. Plus, Sarah Silverman comes after Caitlyn Jenner, proving a few points that I will explain today. And in our Daily Cancellation, we will consider the story of the rapper who was shot and killed by a 15 year old boy for his Rolex watch. What should we say about a man who promotes street violence and then dies by it? Well, we can say a lot, and I will today, and it will make people very mad.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today on the Matt Wall Show, Michelle Obama is once again complaining about the persecution she's suffered as a black woman in America. She's not alone. LeBron James, Oprah Winfrey, Megan and Markle, other black millionaires and billionaires have all frequently complained about our racist system of white privilege. Today we're going to talk about the victims here and reflect on their stories. Also, five headlines, including Dr. Fauci, finally giving a definitive date sort of for when we can return to normal. It's a year away. and the CIA doubles down releasing yet another woke ad plus Sarah Silverman comes after Caitlin Jenner proving a few points that I'll explain today. And in our daily cancellation, we'll consider the story of the rapper who was shot and killed by a 15-year-old boy for his Rolex watch. What should we say about a man who promotes street violence and then dies by it? Well, we could say a lot and I will today and it'll make people very mad probably. All of that and more today on the Matt Wall Show.
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Starting point is 00:02:52 along with her husband has always been eager to talk about the many ways in which this country has oppressed her. She returned to that theme in a recent, interview with CBS, telling the outlet that she, quote, lived in fear or lives in fear and is afraid of getting randomly gunned down by the cops while shopping for groceries or walking her dog. Apparently the fact that she gets secret service protection everywhere she goes is not enough to make her feel secure. She considers it plausible that a racist cop might run up and execute a former first lady on the spot for no reason. Obama is also concerned that her daughters will get racially profiled while driving.
Starting point is 00:03:28 She lies awake at night, tossing and turning, fearing that some police officer with a professional death wish will harass the famous daughters of a United States president. These are all very real fears that she has. And don't ever doubt these fears. Don't doubt them. Here she is describing them. Many of us still live in fear as we go to the grocery store
Starting point is 00:03:50 or worry about our dogs, walking our dogs, or allowing our children to get a license. I mean, just imagine. Aren't your girls driving? They're driving. But every time they get in a car by themselves, I worry about what assumption is being made by somebody who doesn't know everything about them, the fact that they are good students and polite girls,
Starting point is 00:04:11 but maybe they're playing their music a little loud. Maybe somebody sees the back of their head and makes an assumption. I, like so many parents of black kids, have to, that the innocent act of getting a license puts fear in our hearts. So I think we have to talk about it more, and we have to ask our fellow citizens to listen a bit more and to believe us. Yeah, just to be clear, again, when she talks about being afraid of walking down the street
Starting point is 00:04:42 or, you know, walking her dog or going to the grocery store, that is what she's saying. She's saying she's afraid that a cop will shoot her. That's the claim, being made by, Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama is afraid that a cop will shoot her. She says. And why won't someone listen to her? She asks. You know, they just need to listen to us. Yes, why won't someone listen to Michelle Obama? Michelle Obama is tired of being ignored. She wrote a book that sold 10 million copies in five months. Clearly, nobody cares what she has to say. Nobody is listening to her.
Starting point is 00:05:14 It's just as clear that only black parents have to worry about their kids behind the wheel. white parents have no such concern. You know, when I was 17 and I got my license and I went out in the roads, my parents were, they were sleeping easy. It was no problem. Weren't worried at all. We white parents simply cannot conceive of living a life as difficult as that of a beloved multimillionaire celebrity who charges $200,000 to give a 45-minute speech.
Starting point is 00:05:42 We can't wrap our heads around it. If you're not yet convinced that Michelle Obama is a victim, and that her bitterness towards this country is warranted. I need only remind you of a segment from her podcast a few months ago where she talked about the racism she experienced even while in the White House. What you're about to hear is very difficult to listen to. It'll send chills down your spine.
Starting point is 00:06:04 But it is your responsibility to confront this because this is what is happening to Michelle Obama. You're not going to be able to, you're not going to believe this. Listen. So I'm standing there with two little black girls, another black female adult. They're in soccer uniforms. And a white woman cuts right in front of us to order.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Like she didn't even see us. And I literally, and the girl behind the counter almost took her order. And I said, excuse me? I said, you don't see us four people standing right here. You just jumped in line. She didn't apologize. She never looked me in my eye. She didn't know it was me.
Starting point is 00:06:49 All she saw was a black person or a group of black people or maybe she didn't even see that. What white folks don't understand is like that is so telling of how white America views people who are not like them. You know, we don't exist. She doesn't exist. Someone noticed Michelle Obama. She's not being noticed. You heard that right. Michelle Obama years later specifically remembers one time when someone cutting from
Starting point is 00:07:23 front of her in line and is still complaining about it. Who can blame her? I mean, obviously, this was racism. There could be no other explanation. Someone cut in front of her in line and she, you know, by the way, remember before she was talking about, don't make assumptions about people. She jumped to the, she assumed that this person is racist. That's the assumption she made. But it's, it's, it's, it's, she can make that assumption because it's not as though all humans on the face of this planet have had similar experiences. It's not as though line cutters are globally reviled precisely because we've all encountered this many times. No, this is Michelle Obama's cross to carry.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Just think about this. Michelle Obama was delayed in getting ice cream for upwards of 15 seconds. 15 seconds. Imagine. She could have starved. Her children could have starved all because they're black. Now, lest you think that Michelle Obama is the only fabulously wealthy, famous, and beloved black celebrity to be purported.
Starting point is 00:08:23 persecuted by this country, I must also remind you of LeBron James. LeBron net worth $500 million, who's been a millionaire athlete since the age of 18 and was nationally acclaimed even before that. It would be accurate to say that LeBron has been a celebrated and nationally recognized athlete for the vast majority of his life, almost his entire life, going back into childhood. But even so, LeBron has suffered the sort of maltreatment that the average white man cannot comprehend. The NBA star has like Michelle, often claimed to be too afraid to walk down the street. Despite being surrounded by armed security, living in a multi-million dollar mansion in a posh,
Starting point is 00:09:01 Los Angeles suburb, LeBron is worried that some crazed racist cop will run up and shoot him dead. Such a thing has literally never happened. Nothing like that has ever happened, but he's worried that it will. And his fear should be validated. In fairness, LeBron has experienced hate crimes in the past. Who can forget the time when LeBron claimed that someone spray painted the N-word somewhere on his property. Now, in fact, I say who can forget, everyone has forgotten. But he did actually claim this.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And he spoke out against the hate crime courageously. It was applauded by the media. Now, the funny thing is that the cops showed up to investigate, and they never found any racist graffiti. It had been painted over already. Nothing strange about that. Calling the cops to investigate graffiti, but painting over it before they arrive. Who could question that? The media certainly didn't question it. And what about Oprah Winfrey, net worth $2.7 billion? She, especially in recent years, has taken to denouncing white privilege
Starting point is 00:10:04 as well. Now, sure, she has more wealth and power than the average white person could hope to accrue in 10,000 lifetimes, but the average white person still has something that Oprah Winfrey doesn't. Whiteness. What is whiteness worth? What can you cash it in for? Well, that is an explained exactly, but the point is that if you're a white man living in a 900 square foot modular home and feeding your children canned tuna for dinner tonight, you are more privileged than Oprah Winfrey, as she explains here. There are white people who are not as powerful as the system of white people, the caste system that's been put in place, but they still, no matter where they are on the wrong or the ladder of success, they still have their whiteness.
Starting point is 00:10:53 they still have their whiteness. So that's what you say to the guy, feeding the kid's tuna in the modular home. You have your whiteness. You got that at least. Can't afford medical bills, but you have your whiteness. Cash that in. Cash that in at the cosmic prize counter.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Maybe it would be good for a couple of jolly ranchers and a Chinese finger trap. Imagine being Oprah. I mean, it must be so hard. That's why Oprah was the perfect person to speak to and commiserate with Megan Markle, who's sort of black but fully persecuted. A Hollywood actress turned royalty, turned media mogul. And it's unclear why she was deserving of any of those titles at all, being that she has
Starting point is 00:11:37 no talent to speak of whatsoever. But surely, she has known troubles and tribulations that a white mother waitressing at a Denny's never has or never will. Likewise for Sean P. Diddy Combs, who penned an open letter to corporate America a few weeks ago, blasting the corporate world for discriminating against people like himself. Now, Sean Combs is worth $900 million, despite the fact that he's never produced anything of value in his entire life. He's been a millionaire since his early 20s. That's also when he killed Tupac, allegedly. But none of that can erase the pain caused by the unspecified corporate
Starting point is 00:12:14 villains who have caused him unspecified harm. Who knows? Maybe he could be worth $1 billion already, if not for that discrimination. Can you imagine that? Can you imagine not being a billionaire? That's the sort of reality that Sean Combs has to face every day, at least for a few more years until he actually is a billionaire. All of this raises the question. When will America finally become the sort of country where black people can succeed? Or at least, I mean, succeed more. Succeed more than being millionaires and billionaires and some of the most famous and powerful people in the country. That's the question. In closing, I want to give you a statistic that will shock you to your core.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And you're not going to believe this, but it's true. Did you know that there are today no black trillionaires? None. Not one. Not even Oprah. Still think white privilege is a myth? Well, clearly, you're wrong. Now let's get to our five headlines.
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Starting point is 00:14:18 And that's what I want to tell you about the Tuttle Twin Show. How do you describe economics to a seven-year-old? should your preteen care about the government? Well, schools today aren't teaching the principles of freedom. History is watered down. Key principles omitted altogether. And time and attention are given to things of lesser importance, shall we say. Woke socialist ideas are creeping into our classrooms,
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Starting point is 00:15:31 Or now they're pushing bugs and they're saying, oh, you know, have a bug burger made of grasshoppers and crickets. It takes just like the real thing. And I never try that stuff, but I always know. I'm just like, there's no way it tastes the same. It just doesn't. And so yes, this past weekend, I tested the theory. I was at my in-law's house. and my sister-in-law is big into vegan ice cream.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I don't think she hasn't gone full vegan herself, but some of the stuff. So she has this vegan ice cream, it was like mint chocolate chip. And it looked pretty real. And she was telling me, like, no, it tastes just that. You'll never know the difference. It's delicious.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And so I tried some of it. It was my first taste of a vegan substitute. And I said I took one spoonful. And it was, horrifying. Don't listen to anyone who tries to push a vegan ice cream on you. It tasted, you know what? It tasted like melted chalk, doused in peptobismol and splendor. It was really unsettling, actually. That's the word. I was trying to figure out there's something, yeah, it's horrible, it's bad. It's also kind of creepy. It's weirdly inorganic and ined
Starting point is 00:16:41 inedible. It tasted dyspeptic and dystopian even. It's like a ration. They might serve in a prison cell on Mars in the year 2075. It was really, I didn't like it, in other words. Stick with the real stuff. There's my PSA for you. Let's move on. White House COVID coordinator Jeffrey Zinz, or Zaints, I'm sure to pronounce it. He was on CNN this weekend, and he had some news on when we might begin earning more privileges as a country, because we have to earn our privileges from the government. And here's what Zainz has to say. I think one of the reasons why I, journalists are annoyingly harping on this and some health experts are, is because there is a light at the end of the tunnel. And President Biden being able to take off his mask in a room full of journalists and White House staffers, all of whom are fully vaccinated, is a demonstration that the vaccines work.
Starting point is 00:17:37 You and I are both vaccinated and you and I are in a room together talking, and I have no fear that I'm going to get the virus from you and I assume vice versa. And I think the concern is that by being overly cautious, the signal is going out to the public that there isn't necessary a light at the end of the tunnel. Do you understand why people are- I think everyone is tired and wearing a mask is, it can be a pain. But we're getting there, and the light at the end of the tunnel is brighter and brighter. Let's keep up our guard. Let's follow the CDC guidance. And the CDC guidance across time will allow vaccinated people more and more privileges to take off that mask. He really looks, looks and sounds exactly as you expect. All of these, all of these petty tyrants, they all have exactly, it's hard to really put your finger on, but they have a certain look about them. But he says, you can earn privileges, you know, kind of like as a parent, this is, this is what we, you know, that's what I do with my kids, a lot of parents.
Starting point is 00:18:42 It's you, you can, your kids can earn privileges. you could take privileges away. If they're misbehaving, you say, okay, I was going to let you watch a television show for 30 minutes, but you can't do that anymore. We're taking the privilege away. And that's how we're being treated. It is really exactly like.
Starting point is 00:19:02 We've talked about the nanny state for years and years. In the last year, we have fully experienced what a nanny state really is, because that is how we're being treated as children. From the very beginning of this thing, that's why that's the reason they gave us when they originally told everyone don't wear a mask and Dr. Fauci said don't wear a mask it's not going to do much for you
Starting point is 00:19:28 that's what he originally said back in like March and then just like that they changed on a diamond said never mind actually wear the mask and if you don't you're going to be murdering your your grandparents and then when a few and most people just went along with it and said well okay Don't wear the mask.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Wear it. Whatever you tell me. But when a few people said, hey, hold on a second. You were just telling us, don't wear one. It doesn't have any effect. And now you're telling. And the reason we were given was, well, we had to tell you that because otherwise you
Starting point is 00:20:04 would have run out and hoarded all the masks. And there wouldn't be any left for medical professionals. So treating us like children. But again, plenty of people are perfectly happy being treated this way. that is that's the most disturbing reality of all and those of us who are self-respecting adults it's hard for us to comprehend but there are so many other adults would be adults um supposed adults in this country who really you know they crave that sort of maternal embrace from their government and they're perfectly happy with it dr.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Fauci has had us in his maternal embrace for the last year. And he was asked this weekend as every, he is on the news every day. And they're asking him this question of when can we get back to normal? When can we get back to normal? And he says something different every day, however he happens to be feeling. But I think this is the first time that he gave a pretty definitive end date, sort of. And here's the end date that he gave. Give everyone a sense of what the country is going to look like next Mother's Day. Well, George, I hope that next Mother's Day we're going to see a dream. dramatic difference than what we're seeing right now. I believe that we will be about as close to back to normal as we can. And there's some conditions to that, George. We've got to make sure that we get the
Starting point is 00:21:33 overwhelming proportion of the population vaccinated. When that happens, the virus doesn't really have any place to go. There aren't a lot of vulnerable people around. And where there are not a lot of vulnerable people around, you're not going to see a surge. You're not going to see the kinds of numbers we see now. That being the case, I think we could approach what we used to remember as normal before all of this tragedy happened. A year for now. Mother's Day of next year as we get back to normal. Now, of course, I've been living, I'm certainly living entirely my normal life now, and I've been living as normal as I can from the beginning, the extent that I could when everything was being shut down all around us. But, and a lot of us, a lot of you, it's been the same.
Starting point is 00:22:19 So it's a very weird thing. It had already felt like we're living in different countries ideologically. But now that that's, you know, now that's really being emphasized because when you hear people, especially living on the coasts or living in blue states, still saying, well, when can we get back to normal? When can we go to the sit down at a restaurant? What? I've been doing that this whole time.
Starting point is 00:22:48 we're at a point now where it really doesn't matter. I think what the policies are, or certainly what guys like Fauci have to say. Because I think we're getting to the point where the people who are still locked down to whatever extent or they're under mask mandates or anything, they want it. That's why these places have gotten away
Starting point is 00:23:16 with putting these policies and keeping these policies in place for so long, is because, as I've been saying for weeks now, a lot of people, their brains have been broken, their wills have been broken, and they're perfectly happy with it. They don't want to go back to normal. I was just seeing on Twitter someone, I forget who, a blue check saying that he, he went to an indoor retail establishment a few days ago for the first time in 14 months. Can you imagine that? I can't. he actually had not been to a store in over a year. There was never a time when I stopped going to stores inside,
Starting point is 00:23:59 not one moment during this whole thing. But that's someone like so many others that he just is not really hankering to get back to any kind of normal life. He's fine with that being done. We talk about masking, and there are so many people, as startling as it might be to imagine, there are so many people who are fine wearing. to mask forever. They don't want to take it off. And so the balkanization that we've already seen in this
Starting point is 00:24:32 country is only going to be exacerbated more and more now, where I think, you know, two years from now, three years from now, there are going to be places in this country that are still that are still masking limitations, indoor limits and that kind of thing. I don't know if they'll ever go back. And then there will be other places like free states where you could basically live with your life, which is already where we are for the most. part. All right. The CIA is doubling down on its woke advertising. Got a lot of criticism for the last one, you know, the woman bragging about being a cisgender millennial with anxiety disorder and talking about, you know, all the different identity boxes that she checks. And
Starting point is 00:25:17 the CIA got criticized for that, but they don't care. And here's the latest advertisement that they just put out a couple days ago. As an agency librarian, I work to ensure that our collection and services are matched up with what CIA needs. Not only am I involved in the acquisitions of journals, books, and countless electronic resources, I'm also encouraged to curate special collections that challenge expectation. Recently, I brought in our intelligence gaming collection to give officers unique opportunities to practice skills they need in their various roles. Instead of sitting for hours in front of a computer-based training,
Starting point is 00:25:50 they can play a carefully selected game to train a specific set of skills while simultaneously building on the myriad soft skills essential to intelligence work. My favorite thing about CIA is that they encourage the out-of-the-box ideas that drive real progress. Growing up gay in a small southern town, I was lucky to have a wonderful and accepting family. I always struggled with the idea that I might not be able to discuss my personal life at work. Imagine my surprise when I was taking my oath at CIA, and I noticed a rainbow on then-director Brendan's Lanyard, which I later learned was designed by Engel,
Starting point is 00:26:23 one of the many employee resource groups here at the agency. I remember being stunned. Since then, however, I've learned that far beyond the resource groups, inclusion is a core value here. Officers from the top down work hard to ensure that every single person, whatever their gender, gender identity, race, disability, or sexual orientation can bring their entire self to work every day. Nothing to be worried about there.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Just the CIA now spending their time at work. in a rainbow pin playing preschool games. That's apparently what CIA agents do now at work. They sit down to build their critical thinking skills or whatever. They play video games and little preschool games, Rubik's cubes. That's the CIA now. And, you know, it's very important that we allow CIA agents on the job to discuss their personal life, to talk about their sexual proclivities, their gender
Starting point is 00:27:26 identity, very, very important. And it is, it's important to the left. It's not just important. It's the whole point of everything. The left does not recognize that anything has a purpose or function beyond advancing its ideas, its worldview. It sees that as the primary function of everything and everyone, and especially of every institution. So the CIA, yes. The CIA, yes. The family unit, yes. That's the primary function of everything. So this isn't, this isn't going to change. But it does show you just how deep the leftist rot is in our country and in our institutions. This stuff is embedded deep in there. And leftists have been working towards this goal, give them some credit. They've been working towards this goal relentlessly and ruthlessly.
Starting point is 00:28:26 and sort of brilliantly for decades. This is not happening by accident. It's not like everyone woke up yesterday and went insane. And next thing you know, the CIA, they're wearing rainbow pins and playing, you know, playing video games on the job, talking about their gender identity and their gender expression. That's not, it may seem like that to those of us who haven't been paying attention. But, no, this is very intentional to process that's been happening for many, many years. and that's why undoing it and getting rid of the rot,
Starting point is 00:29:00 revitalizing our culture, reclaiming our culture, that is not going to be, you know, a one, two, three step solution or just flipping a switch or something. It's not going to happen that way. And it's also a problem that goes way beyond simply electing Republicans to fix. Republicans who have shown no interest in fixing any of this have really been a part of this problem at best have done nothing to stop it
Starting point is 00:29:31 and at worst have taken part in this process but that's why conservatives need to get out of this way of thinking where it always comes down to elections and we just got to get a Republican in the White House and that's all that matters it achieves nothing if that's all if we're only, that's surface level. You're only focused at the very, very top.
Starting point is 00:30:00 But as I said, this rot goes deep, way deeper than that. Kind of related, I guess. Sarah Silverman has called out Caitlin Jenner in no uncertain terms. And one of the reasons I play this is you may remember a few weeks ago, Sarah Silverman was getting credit from conservative media people and by a lot of conservatives because on this same podcast, she spoke out against the extremes of leftism and was saying that, you know, leftism is getting too extreme. And anytime someone on the left says something like that, conservatives eat that right up.
Starting point is 00:30:39 And I was expecting the Sarah several minute she might get a CPAC invitation because she said that. And maybe after what I'm about to play, she'll still get one. I don't know. But I remember saying at the time that, yeah, what she's saying is basically true and good, the left they are extreme. But she she's part of that. She is also an extreme
Starting point is 00:31:02 leftist as evidenced by this. I saw Caitlin Jenner saying trans girls should not play girls' sports. Caitlin, you're a woman, right? A trans girl is a girl.
Starting point is 00:31:20 She should have the same rights as cis girls. If you think a trans girl, what you think a trans girl is too strong? What about tall girls as opposed to short girls? What about boys in high school who are teeny tiny and their teammates have already hit puberty and are shaving? Why don't you just have co-ed sports divided by weight or height, you know?
Starting point is 00:31:48 This is so dumb. They are legislating this shit without one single example of how this plays out. This is not worrying about girls sports. Believe me, not, I think there are better ways to worry about girl sports. This is not worrying about, this is not what that is. This is not worrying. This is not concern for girls sports. It's transphobia full stop.
Starting point is 00:32:17 It's just such a bummer when a, you know, such a prominent trans woman is such a You know, it's like being Jewish right now and having the most recognizable Jewish names be Weinstein and Epstein. You know, it's like super not awesome. Super not awesome. Very eloquently put. So, yeah, that's all conservatives that we're celebrating. Sir, celebrate. She's on our side.
Starting point is 00:32:48 She's tired of the leftist extremism. No, she thinks that women have penises. that men can have babies, okay? That's as extreme a position as you can take. And it's as insane of a position as you can take. And that's what she believes, or claims to anyway. So, no, no, no. That's not someone who holds that view cannot be on our side, at least on any side that I recognize. There's no like, well, yeah, she believes that and is advocating for a world where that is, where, you know, that operates according to that false reality. But, you know, she can be an ally in other areas. No, she can't. And by the way, and you hear this all
Starting point is 00:33:35 the time from the left on the trans sports issue where they say, there's no examples. This isn't happening anywhere. Give me one example. Okay, I could give you dozens of examples. It is happening. We could start in Connecticut. We're biological males with track times that would not have qualified them for even like the top 20, we're crushing the female competition in the state championships. That's one example. There are plenty of examples of this happening. But with that said, I think Silverman is sort of right about two things. The first thing that she's right about, what are the two things let me remember pulling a Rick Perry okay the first thing that she's right about is that this is not just about girls sports she's right about that and I think that's
Starting point is 00:34:34 a reality that that's a truth that conservatives need to be honest about and need to embrace and need to be open about you know trying to stop biological males from getting on to girls sports teams why are we motivated to do that well let me speak for myself anyway I can that's because I all I can do. Why am I motivated to do that? Why do I want to prevent this? Is it simply because of my passion for girls' sports? My ultimate worry, is it that we'll live in a country where there are no girls' sports? No. I want there to be girls' sports, but is it the most important thing in the world to me? It's not. Am I up at night, lying awake, tossing and turning, say, what about girls sports. It's an attack on girls sports. No. I recognize that girl sports is but one battlefield
Starting point is 00:35:33 in the overall war for reality. And it's an important battlefield because it's getting a lot of attention and because of the precedent that will be set if we lost in this battlefield. So that's, I'm not worried about losing girls sports specifically. I'm worried about losing our grip as a culture on reality. And when you lose reality, girls sports is like the least of your problems. If we live in a country where we have abandoned reality itself and science and all that makes sense,
Starting point is 00:36:14 yeah, we won't have girls sports anymore. We also won't have like anything else. I fully admit that. So when someone like Sarah Silverman accuses us of being, being motivated by more than just a concern for girl sports, I say, absolutely, you are damn right.
Starting point is 00:36:36 That's what all conservatives should be saying. But instead, most Republicans, if they dare even speak on this issue, they pretend that, no, this isn't about transgenderism at all. This is only about protecting girls' sports.
Starting point is 00:36:49 We just care so much about girls' sports. Oh, please. Be honest about what you're doing. I agree with Sarah Silverman on that. Be honest. It's not like we have some insidious. It's not like our real motivations are insidious. We're trying to protect reality.
Starting point is 00:37:09 That's the point here. Kind of important. What is the other thing she's right about? She's also right that Caitlin Jenner's position is incoherent. She's 100% right. Because Caitlin Jenner is saying, I'm a woman, and we're supposed to accept him as a woman. And yeah, if he's really a woman, then why shouldn't he be able to participate in female sports?
Starting point is 00:37:35 And if a trans girl is really a girl, then why shouldn't they be able to participate in girl sports? It doesn't make any sense. See, the objection to trans, quote unquote, trans girls participating in girl sports only makes sense if it's grounded in an acknowledgement that trans girls aren't really girls. Because if they are girls, then obviously they belong. in girls sports. In fact, if they are girls and we are disqualifying them from girls sports,
Starting point is 00:38:07 that is discrimination. That's like bigotry, right? Our point is that they're not girls. I am not aware of any argument against allowing quote unquote trans girls in girl sports aside from the argument that they're not really girls. That's my whole argument. I have no other argument. It's a pretty simple argument. I think it's a good one. Why should they go in girl sports? Oh, well, because they're not girls. I understand that you've given them a label with the word girl in it, but they're not really girls, though. They're not the same. There's an essential fundamental difference between them and the actual girls. That's the argument. That's the whole argument. So, but if we're accepting that trans girls are girls, then there's no argument.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Your argument makes no sense. That's why you might think that, Caitlin Jenner is the perfect mouthpiece for this because, oh, look, a trans person's coming out against it. His position doesn't make sense. It's incoherent. Caitlin Jenner, are we supposed to accept you as a woman or not? Are you telling us now you're not a woman? Because if you are saying you're a woman, then by that standard, yes, these trans people should be in girls sports. This is what happens on the right. And I don't accept Caitlin Jenner as being on the right, by the way. But this is what happens on the right when we don't have the guts and the intelligence and the wherewithal to be honest about what we're doing and what our argument
Starting point is 00:39:44 is and to make the fundamental argument. Rather than staying on the surface, trimming around the edges, you know, get down to the nitty gritty. This is what the argument is really about. What is the, what is the sports argument really about? It's about the question of whether or not those quote-unquote trans girls are actually girls. Our position is, no, they aren't. That's it. if you're too afraid to say that, then you're useless and you're worthless in this discussion. Please butt out. Because whatever argument you're making is pathetic and bad,
Starting point is 00:40:16 if that's not your argument. All right. Let's move now to reading the YouTube comments. Arthur says the worst part about that mask video is the guy who filmed it is the crybaby who actually thought it was a good idea to post it online. That should scare us more than the virus. Yeah, that's always all of these, many TikTok videos are like this and all these mask shaming videos
Starting point is 00:40:39 where the the undisputed villain in the encounter is the one filming it and not just filming it. It's not like they are live streaming it and they lose their temper in the moment and it goes out on the internet for all time. No, they film it and then watch it back. They film their own emotional breakdown
Starting point is 00:41:01 and they film themselves being a bully to someone. In this case, this man, raiding a pregnant woman and getting up in her face, he films it, watches it back, and says, this is great stuff. Let me post it online for everyone to see. Maximilian says, Matt, I think you need to pick another hideous shirt because everyone likes the polka dot shirt now. Why would I pick another one? The plan is working.
Starting point is 00:41:30 You know what this is? This is indoctrination. You're all getting a lesson in indoctrination. This is how it works. in desensitization, conditioning, and indoctrination. And even hypnotism, all of those altogether. Let's see. WM. Music says, Matt, do you think rote obedience leads to true obedience or a desire to obey?
Starting point is 00:41:56 There's caveats and qualifiers, but basically, yes, I think so. That's what we were talking about a second ago. That's what we're seeing in our culture right now. people at first being forced to obey mask mandates, shutdowns, and all of that. And now there are millions of people who actually have a desire to obey them. They don't want the rules to go away. So, yeah, absolutely. Orange Banana says, hey Matt, sauna is pronounced sauna.
Starting point is 00:42:26 S-O-W-N-A. What? Sauna? Sauna. I was just sitting over there and there. That's not how it's pronounced. It's sauna. Sauna. A, U. Aw. Sauna.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Like, I may not have graduated college or even gone to college, but I know it's not sauna. Can you imagine going to, I don't know, like a spa or, I can't imagine going to a spa in the first place. But if you do and you walk in, hey, where's your sauna? And finally, Jesus Freak says, I don't have anything important to say. I'm just commenting. So Matt might read it. Well, there you go. And thank you for your service in feeding the algorithm.
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Starting point is 00:44:42 unbeknownst to the 15-year-old, I think. Ultimately, the rapper died over a Rolex watch, which was all they made off with. They sold that for $2,000. So a man died for $2,000 split between four guys. Now, when news of the killer's identity broke over the weekend, there was a lot of reaction on social media from people lamenting and wondering how a 15-year-old kid could engage in this kind of senseless violence. Many rap fans and pop smoke fans simply couldn't believe that such a fate
Starting point is 00:45:09 could befall Pop Smoke, that his life could be lost for such a frivolous reason. And indeed, it is very sad. But it may not be quite as surprising as they make it out to be. I confess that I was not familiar with Pop Smoke's work while he was still living. But out of curiosity, I did look up some of his songs after reading the latest news. And not surprisingly, Pop Smoke appears to be a rapper in the traditional variety with lyrics like this from his song. Dior. He says, I'll make a movie like TNT, Glock 30 on me, ask who really want it. I bet I air it like BNB, Nappy Blue, wild into my section, and I keep that 38 for that weapon. Remember when I
Starting point is 00:45:51 came home from corrections, all the bad is in my direction. And lyrics like this from the song, Get It On Me, or Got It On Me, Sorry, this AR be my trophy, shoot first, shoot back, automatic when the woo clap. Then there's a poetry like this from Welcome to the Party. Gun on my hip, one in the head, 10 in the clip, baby, baby, don't trip. Just lower your tone because you could get hit. And finally, who could forget the song Gangsta, which with a passage like this. 44 got a kickback, click-clack, get back, shots at your rib pack, or you're going to get chen checked, talking about they guns, but never shot.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Might as well put a cap on it all over with a chopstick, run up and I'm branding them. 38's on the block, won't hesitate. Okay. Plenty more where that came from, pretty standard stuff. yet we're never supposed to stop and wonder if this standard may be having perhaps some kind of effect on the world. Is it possible that when the music industry churns out
Starting point is 00:46:49 thousands and thousands and thousands of songs every year directly glorifying and encouraging street violence that maybe it could after a while actually succeed in helping to create the very behavior that it is so explicitly promoting? Now, I'm not suggesting that pop smoke's killer was directly influenced by pop smoke himself. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:12 All I'm saying is that the rapper contributed to a culture that goes out of its way to romanticize exactly the sort of thing that Pop Smoke's killer did to him. In other words, when someone in an industry that glorifies street violence dies by street violence, would it perhaps be time for a bit of reflection? Should we consider about, you know, should we wonder about all of these dots? that line up so perfectly, just begging to be connected. Now, I brought this up over the weekend, and as expected, most of the responses were rather negative.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Some were along the lines of this comment from a guy named Akbar Jenkins, who said, I hope Matt experiences street violence. Yes, if you're upset that I said rap encourages violence, the way to prove me wrong is to wish death on me. Good plan. And then many other comments were making points similar to the one that someone named Trevor makes here, he says, this is like saying the writers of the Saw franchise had it coming if some twisted fan decided to ensnare them in a real-life jigsaw trap. Now, you often hear these
Starting point is 00:48:14 comparisons between violence and rap and violence and film, but there are two very significant differences. First of all, the movie Saw does not glorify or romanticize serial killers. You're not supposed to watch that movie and come away with a sympathetic view of the killer from Saul. You're not supposed to think that it looks kind of cool to trap people in a room and force them to amputate their own limbs in order to escape. Generally, anyone imitating the jigsaw killer from Saul would have done it on Halloween, and that's about it. With all that said, I do think that the violence in Saul was grotesque and gratuitous and desensitizing. Those were garbage movies with no artistic value whatsoever, but they very clearly were not trying to send the message of, hey kids, being a serial
Starting point is 00:48:56 a killer is fun. Second difference. Saw was obviously fiction. It was a story. It was a tale. Most horror movies are the same. You're not supposed to confuse it with real life, and most people don't. You go into the film fully understanding that you're entering into a fictional world where unreal things are happening. Now, let's compare all of that to rap music, the rap music from guys like Pops. Does rap music glorify and romanticize violence? Does it try to make murderers? and drug dealing seem cool? Does it try to make these things seem appealing? Yes, no question. Kids don't go around dressing, speaking, and acting like the serial killers from horror films, most of the time, again, unless it's Halloween. But kids, especially kids in the city,
Starting point is 00:49:43 do absolutely imitate rappers. Immitate them in every way from speech to style to yes behavior. The music is designed to have this effect. Everybody involved in making the music knows that it's having this effect. There is no escaping that reality. They can't plead ignorance. They're sending a clear message that, especially if you're a boy growing up in an urban area, the way to prove that you're tough and cool is to deal drugs and murder people. There is no mistaking that message. It is very direct. Second, rap music does not present itself as fiction. Now, it might be true that some of these guys are lying about their criminal exploits, but they certainly don't try to make it seem like they're lying or telling fables. They again, go out of
Starting point is 00:50:26 of their way to convince the listener that they really have done and continue to do all of the things they describe in their music. Oftentimes, they'll explicitly address and reject the claim that they're lying or pretending. Pop Smoke in one of those songs I just read makes it clear that some people talk about guns but never shoot anything, and he is not one of those people. He wants you to know that he really has killed people and he's killed them for almost no reason. He says, like, kill someone because he doesn't like their tone. And that all of this makes him very Very cool and in fact way cooler than the average rapper in the game. That's the message he wants you to pick up.
Starting point is 00:51:04 A gospel passage about living by the sword and dying by it comes to mind. So the fact is clear. These guys definitely encourage the chaos and brutality in our cities. They do it for profit. They do it because the human cost means nothing to them. And sometimes the monster they help to create turns around on them. Yeah, it's a sad way. to die. You know, it's an even sadder way to live and make a living. It's all just very sad.
Starting point is 00:51:33 And maybe one of these days, when everyone gets tired of being sad, we can acknowledge the reality that's staring us plainly in the face and have a serious conversation about what exactly we might do to change it. Until then, those unwilling to have this conversation and connect all these dots are, as you may have guessed by now, canceled. And media matters have failed. And media matters have fun with that segment. I'll talk to you guys tomorrow. Godspeed. Well, if you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to subscribe. And if you want to help spread the word, please give us a five-star review. Also, tell your friends to subscribe as well. We're available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you listen to podcasts, we're there.
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