The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 858 - The Bubba Wallace Noose Hoax Is Resurrected

Episode Date: December 15, 2021

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Today on the Matt Wall Show, if you were expecting the media to back away from race hoaxes and shame after the Jesse Smollett verdict, think again. Yesterday, ESPN tried to resurrect the Bubba Wallace noose fable. Also, is Amazon to blame for the workers who died when a tornado hit their factory on Saturday? And you've heard about the male swimmer crushing the female competition at the college level. Today we'll actually watch one of those races to see for ourselves what a farce it all is. Plus, the head of the NIH breaks into song during a press conference and in the daily cancellation. We'll deal with the controversy surrounding comments that Ben Shapiro's sister made about Madonna. Am I going to cancel a member of the Shapiro family today?

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this is the kind of thing we're up against. We cannot all be equivocators and compromisers while we face an ideological opponent who stands firm in his position no matter what. regardless of the facts, regardless of anything. Some of us have to be a bit obstinate, headstrong, or else we'll all be blown around by the breeze like little leaves and twigs. A perfect example of the left stubbornness, which calls for a proportional response, I think, is this. It's been less than a week since the Justice Millett verdict when the left and the media were all you would think humiliated after the hoax they promoted was revealed as a hoax. You might assume that they would want to crawl into a hole for a while, lick their wounds, hide their faces, and certainly steer

plenty clear of anything else that looks like it might be a racehooks. But that's just not how they roll. And so yesterday, ESPN, with timing that is not a coincidence, decided to air a special on the Bubba Wallace story. Now, you remember that Bubba Wallace was the black NASCAR driver, who claimed that somebody hung a noose in his garage last year. NASCAR rallied around him, the media ate the story up, and it all culminated in the dramatic display of all of the drivers at Talladega marching around the track with Bubba Wallace in a show of solidarity. And they all gave them hugs and they were all crying. Of course, there's one really important detail about that noose, quote unquote, which is that it was not a noose. It was a rope that you used to close the garage door, a garage door pole, as we call it.

Anyone who's ever been in a garage might be familiar with these contraptions. just like ropes. That's why they're hanging, that's why it's, interestingly enough, hanging from the garage door, you might wonder, oh, why is that rope on the garage door? Oh, because when you pull it, the door goes down. Wow. NASCAR drivers who spend many hours in garages are certainly familiar with these things. They see them all the time. But even if Bubba Wallace and everybody else at the Speedway that day had suffered amnesia and forgotten about the existence of garage door pulls, they still could have easily figured out whether the rope was meant to be some kind of racist message to Bubba Wallace. There are security cameras all over the place.

As some of us pointed out when this story was first reported, well, there are security cameras, so couldn't you just quite easy to find out what's going on? Simply go back and check the footage and see how long the rope has been there. If it's been there for longer than a day or two, that means that it could not have been targeted at Bubba at Bubba Smolet. A, Wallace, sorry, because nobody would have known prior to that point that Wallace would be assigned to that garage. So that's all you got to do. Security cameras, just look at them. Look at the footage. It'd take like 10 minutes. Now, as it happens, the FBI showed up with 15 agents to investigate the rope, and they did exactly that. They checked the tape. And when they did, they discovered that it had been there since the previous year.

For months, it had been hanging there, and nobody thought anything of it. Did we need 15 FBI agents to look at the footage and discover this? Is there a reason why NASCAR couldn't have done this themselves immediately before running out to the public and telling everyone that there's a suspected potential noose-like structure in Bubba's garage? The answer to both is no. Well, the real answer is no, they didn't need the FBI agents. They could have checked themselves. But they preferred the narrative of the racist noose, and so they ran with it until they could run no longer.

Or you thought they could run no longer. But here they were last night on ESPN, trotting this thing out again a year later. Let's watch some of this clip here. I just wanted to stand with him during the national anthem to show my support for him and was appalled by what I had learned. And then as drivers got involved, I think crew members, team managers, team owners, it really started to snowball within a very short period of time. The most incredible non-competitive moment in sports I'd ever see. that moment, I could feel the weight of that moment. And I think we all did as we were walking.

Yes, it may have been one of the most incredible moments in sports. Never in history, never in history of sports, has there been such pageantry and emotion surrounding a garage door? This was quite easily, I think we could say this, right? Quite easily, the most dramatic garage door-related sports moment in world history. But I'm not sure if that's anything to brag about necessarily. And just because I'm a glutton for punishment, Let's keep watching a little bit of this clip here.

I get out of the car. I look back. And I was like, holy shit, it's the whole garage. The whole garage. That's when I lost it. In the midst of all the turmoil that was going on in the world with the black and white, the hatred and everything that was going on, the entire NASCAR family

rally behind my son. Very inspiring. Now, just to remind you, again, it was not a news. So it was 100% not any kind of racist attack at all. It was just a rope with a loop on it so you could grab hold of it to pull the door closed. And by the way, that's also how we know it's not a noose.

Because a noose, and I know like this people on the left, they don't spend a lot of time outdoors, they probably don't do a lot of fishing or that kind of thing. So they're not familiar with tying knots. But I can tell you that not every knot is a noose. In fact, most of them aren't. Only one knot is a noose and it's a noose. And all the others are different kinds of knots.

But they might look kind of similar because I know, again, if you don't spend a lot of time outside, and you maybe all you do is watch corporate media, you see a rope and maybe you just start breaking down in tears because you think, well, why else would that rope be there, except to hang somebody. But a noose has a particular application. And so by definition, a noose, when you pull on the loop, it constricts.

Because that's why that's what it's made to do. That's what makes it a noose. So if you pull on the loop and it does not constrict, then it's not a noose. And so since this thing was hanging there as a garage door since the previous October, we could probably assume that it was not constricting when you pulled on it. Because that means it would like every time you try to shut the garage door, break your hand. And so I'm going to assume that they had not been there for months where every time you shut the garage door, everyone's getting their hand broken and no one thinks to change the knot.

So I'm assuming that's not the case, which means that it was just a knot that did not constrict. It's not a news. So in other words, this was not a makeshift gallows that had been set up to perform executions before, you know, before the race. We know all of this now. I mean, any intelligent person knew at the moment they heard about the story, even before the FBI brain trust, confirmed it, but now even the dumbest among us knows it. And still, ESPN aired the special. They reported themselves last year that the FBI confirmed it was not a hate crime. And yet, here they are. You thought the media would be embarrassed by Jesse Smolett. Instead, they're saying, oh, yeah, you think we're embarrassed by that? We'll take this. Here's an emotional documentary

about a black guy who was afraid of his garage door. So this is the double down. It's also as I've been explaining for the last few weeks, the reality curation. They are shaping the way people view reality. The actual details don't matter. In fact, in fact, the whole idea that nooses are racist symbols is itself a part of that reality curation. Newses, actual nooses, like real nooses, have been used for thousands of years for different applications, but yes, often to perform executions. Many thousands of people or millions of all different races have died that way through the course of human history. Many of them have been convicted criminals. In some cases, they are unjustly lynched by violent mobs. But whoever decided that the noose, this universal

object, is a symbol of special significance to black people. When did that start? Well, the media decided that. They decided it some time ago, and they've now turned it into reality through one hoax after another. They've been so successful in constructing this reality that even people on the right who are skeptical of the individual noose hoaxes still don't stop to question why we're pretending that the noose is a racist symbol in the first place. That's the power of the false reality that the left has constructed and which permeates and intrudes into the lives of people who would otherwise know better. So it's a very unique situation in modern times. They've always, There've always been liars and propagandists in the world,

but never with such immediate and all-encompassing access to so many people. And so with this ability to fundamentally reshape how we look at the world, which is all the more reason to remain vigilant and skeptical, and if we stand in the truth, to stand there stubbornly, at least as stubborn as the liars are with their lies. Now let's get to our five headlines. So you've got guests coming over for Christmas.

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A couple quick notes here about my best-selling children's book, Johnny the Walrus. Really important. And first of all, and I think this is, I think this is brilliant. I think this is great. But I've had some people reach out to me saying that they want to donate the books to their local schools, especially their local elementary schools. I had started with one parent group in Southern California. And what they want to do is get a bunch of the books and then buy a bunch of boxes and donate them to very generously. And I think that those elementary schools down there in Southern California will be very, very, very,

grateful for these books. And if you, I think it's a great idea. I plan on doing that myself. I'm going to make some, this is good news for the schools around here in Nashville, but I plan on making some very generous donations myself of this book to the schools around here. So if you want to do that, if you want to buy the books in bulk, you can go to bulkbooks.com and then search for Johnny the Walrus, and then you get the discount buying in bulk. But I'll tell you one place that you cannot go to get Johnny the Walrus, unfortunately. I mean, you can go to Amazon and you can still find it there. You won't find it listed as an LGBT book because of homophobia and gay erasure, and it was taken off, but it's still there. You can go to Johnny the Walrus.com, but you cannot go to Target because

the book has been taken off of Target. And they took it off at some point last week, like late last week, they got rid of Johnny the Walrus. And we've been asking, I think it's a fair question. Yeah, they can decide what books they're going to sell, but I think we have a right to know why they took the book down. This was a decision made by someone. What was your reason? And so we have been contacting Target, reaching out to them just saying, why would you take down this book, written by a best-selling LGBT author, this delightful book about a young boy pretending to be a Walrus? Are you saying that this is prohibited now, that you're not going to sell books? about children pretending to be different things? Books of fantasy and imagination,

that's no longer allowed at Target. Is that what you're saying? Really fair question. We've been asking them, can't get an answer. If you want to ask Target, then I would very much encourage you to do that. You can, one thing you can do is contact them on Twitter. It's at Ask Target.

And that seems to be their account that usually will respond to consumer questions and complaints. But they haven't responded to me yet. So I don't know if it's from Target. This could once again be homophobia rearing its ugly head where they're saying, oh, I don't want to talk to the number one bestselling most revered LGBT author in the country. So this might be something targeted at me. You might have more luck.

I don't know. But if you want to do me a favor, do us all a favor, really, and find out why Target took Johnny the Walberstone. hashtag free Johnny hashtag end walrus phobia all right so let's start here jen pesaki was asked about the sky high inflation she's another one who's not very not very forthcoming with answer she doesn't like answering a lot of questions just like Target apparently doesn't but she did have an answer finally on this who is to blame for the fact that it costs so much money when you go to the grocery store if you want to buy, you know, some ground beef or something, cost a lot of money. And she says, well, it's not our fault.

This is all the fault of big meat. Big meat is to blame. Let's listen. There are several progressive groups and lawmakers who are increasingly vocalizing the idea that inflation, high inflation, is being driven by corporate greed, including companies with high profits, some of whom have met at the White House with the president in recent months. Does the president endorse that idea? Does he think the corporate greed is the big driver of inflation right now?

Well, I think the president thinks the way people across the country, American families, digest inflation, is by price increases. And if you look at industry to industry, it's a little different. So, for example, the president, the secretary of agriculture, have both spoken to what we've seen as the greed of meat conglomerates. That is an area when people go to the grocery store and they're trying to buy a pound of meat, two pounds of meat, 10 pounds of meat. It is, the prices are higher. That is, in his view, and the view of our Secretary of Agriculture, agriculture because of, you could call it corporate greed short. You could call it jacking up prices during a pandemic. There are other areas where we've seen increases because of supply chain issues. And we're seeing those increases around the world as it relates to gas prices, oil supply and things along those lines. So I would say there's some areas where we have seen corporations benefit, profit from the pandemic. And certainly the president would agree with that component. I don't know that. full context of all of their remarks? It's various things.

It's the greed of meat conglomerates. It's supply chain issues. It's the inflation fairy, and she's invisible, and she goes to the grocery store. She sprinkles inflation dust over all the food. That happens, too. The point is, it's everybody's fault but ours. If this is the greed of big meat, of the giant, shadowy meat conglomerates, then why did they just start getting greedy once President Biden took office.

What's up with that? Especially when President Biden, Democrat Party, they're supposed to be the corporate slayers right there going after and they're taking down the big corporation. So that's kind of odd. That in tandem with Biden taking office, that's when, coincidentally, all of a sudden, the big meet conglomerates, they've decided to get greedy. So what has happened in the last year to make Big Meat so greedy? Big meat was not as greedy before, and now they are.

Biden takes office and they get greedy. Why is that? Of course, the excuse doesn't make any sense at all, because that's exactly what it is. It's an excuse. Here's another thing that doesn't make any sense, but I have to show you this. I don't have to, but I'm going to. And we're to try to get through this together as much as we can. the director of the NIH, Francis Collins, is stepping down.

And he gave his last address, I guess, to the public. This is supposed to be sort of a press conference and address to the public, talking about the pandemic, talking about COVID. And his last act was this. Listen. Somewhere past the pandemic. When we're free, there's a life I remember full of activity. Somewhere past the pandemic, masks will come off.

No more need for a nose swore. for a nose swab every time we cough. Okay. We pause it. Just don't pause it because we might go back to it. If you feel like, if you guys feel like you need to hear more of that. I don't know. I was kind of getting into it.

Let's just play a little bit more. I want to hear a little bit more of this song. Just play a little bit more. As we are gathered here today, COVID's toll has hit and sent us reeling but partners like the ones right here will help to make the pathway clear to find it true

Okay, now we're going to rewind it and watch the whole thing again, but this time I want you to focus on the sign language interpreter because that's a whole other, no, I'm kidding, we're not actually going to play it, but that's a whole different experience when you're watching the sign language interpreter who you can tell is painfully embarrassed, but she has to just roll with it. that's that's not uh i i swear to you when i first saw this on online i thought is this like a deep fake thing this has got to be a joke this cannot be real i know we've seen this all over ticot people

love singing about covid for some reason but there's no way that francis collins a director of the n hays but no this is real he actually did that that that is a thing that happened and this this this shows you it shows you a lot of things one is um even before he broke out into song this was the case, that we see how when people get into a bureaucracy, they become bureaucrats, it has this effect of lessening them, you know? And that's really a shame with Francis Collins because he, he, in fact, is a brilliant scientist. He's one of the guys who sequenced the human genome. I mean, he's a great, brilliant scientist. But now this is what he has become as a bureaucrat. My God. And we can laugh.

in a cringy, awkward way at that, because what else are you going to do? But there is also something kind of sinister about it. Because it's this fanciful song about somewhere past the pandemic, everything will be good again. You could take the masks off. But just like we talk about somewhere over the rainbow, even in Wizard of Oz, the place over the rainbow doesn't really exist.

It's all a dream in the end. It's a bait and switch, which always bothered me, even when I was a kid. I first saw that movie. So it's not real, is the point. The place over the rainbow is everything is great, but it's in your imagination. It's in your dreams. It's not a real place.

And that's basically what we're being told there. And this thing goes from awkward to creepy when you think of it that way. That what we're being told by the NIH is that the place past the pandemic, it's like the place over the rainbow in that it doesn't exist. Because we're never going to be past this. This is why it's going to be forever. You're never taking the mask off. If you live in a place where you still have to wear it, you're never taking it off.

If you're in California where I just was for a few days suffering through, you're never taking the mask off. So that's the real message. Past the pandemic is a fantasy. But keep dreaming about it, keep thinking about it, and keep cooperating and obeying. And maybe one day, this far-off fantasy will come to fruition. That's the real message of the song.

All right, let's go here. Amazon, I wanted to talk about this briefly. Amazon is coming under fire after a number of employees were killed during the deadly tornadoes on Saturday. And this was at a warehouse in Illinois. I think it was six people were killed, I believe. And then there was a different, not an Amazon factor, but a different factor in Kentucky, where dozens and dozens of people were killed. And especially Amazon is getting criticism. for whatever reason, I haven't heard as much criticism directed at whatever company runs the factory where those people are killed.

But a lot of the criticism seems to center around the fact that Amazon wouldn't let employees leave during the storm. You've probably seen that headline all over the place. They weren't allowed to leave. They had to stay. Also, I've seen people going after Amazon for forcing employees to come to work, even though there were tornadoes in the forecast, as I saw somebody phrase it on Twitter. So I want to touch on these two things quickly. I'm not one to defend Amazon. And I don't really care if people are attacking Amazon doesn't personally offend me in any way.

But I also, I hate nonsense. And there's a whole lot of nonsense related to this situation. And so I want to explain that. First of all, was Amazon right in not allowing their employees to leave once the tornado hit? once there was a tornado warning? Was that the right thing to do to force employees to stay there? Yes, absolutely. And it's obviously a great tragedy that people ended up dying, but it was the right thing to do to make them stay. Because that is, anyone who's lived in the Midwest, anyone who's lived in a tornado prone area, knows this. This is standard procedure. When you get a

tornado warning, and in fact, now you get them on your phone, you get the alert, and what does the phone tell you? What is the weather report? That everyone tells you, stay where you are. If you're in a building, find the safest place in that building. But what you don't do is leave. Of course, Amazon wasn't going to send people to their cars out on the road when there's a tornado out there. The car is the worst place you could be. And if you didn't know this, then this is a useful segment right now on this show.

Maybe it'll save your life one day. The last thing you want to do, this is not like an action movie where you get into your car. You try to outrun the tornado. the worst place you can be as a car. Because there's falling limbs, there's debris, everything, you're very much exposed. If the tornado goes anywhere near you, I mean, you're in a, as far as a tornado is concerned, you're in a very light, you know, you might as well be a rag doll that's going to get tossed around by the storm.

So you don't go in your car. You find a solid structure, the most solid you can find. If you're in a building, you find the safest place in that building. Last year, my wife was out grocery shopping. there was suddenly a tornado warning, and they told everyone, don't leave. Stay in the grocery store. Now, if my wife had made a run for it, I don't think they would have shot her to make her stay, but they said, don't leave, stay here.

Because we're not going to send you all out to the parking lot into your cars to make a run for it. If Amazon had said to their employees, there's a tornado warning, everyone run to your cars and get out, and then six people had died or more, and there could have been a lot more, now they're really liable because they went against standard safety protocol. when it comes to tornadoes, which again, the standard stage protocol is stay where you are, hunker down, unless you're in a car. That's the only time you're supposed to leave. If you're in a car, try to park somewhere and get to a structure if you can. And then the second thing about, well, there were tornadoes in the forecast and they had their employees come to work anyway.

Again, if you live in a tornado prone area, you already know this. There are tornadoes potentially in the forecast like 200 days of the year. A tornadoes. Tornado watch just means that the, that the atmospheric conditions are such that there could be tornadoes. But you can't shut down work every time there could potentially be a tornado. Then if you live in some of these, if you live in Kansas or something, you'll never go to work. Because it's almost every day there's a potential, especially in the summer. So that's all that it means. There's tornadoes in the forecast.

It just means that like there could be somewhere a tornado or maybe not, because those are the weather. conditions. But you still basically go about your day under a tornado watch. Tornado warning means, okay, now we've seen a funnel cloud. It's out there, but it's too late to evacuate the town or something. You've got to hunkered out. There's a reason why you don't hear about towns evacuating in the lead up toward tornado like they do with hurricanes because tornadoes are different to hurricanes. Hurricanes are these big lumbering things that start out there over over the ocean. And you can see and literally from a thousand miles away. And the only speculation is what course they'll take

and how strong the winds will be by the time they get to you. But as it gets closer and closer, you get a better idea. And then at a certain point, you really know with a fair amount of certainty where it's going to land and basically how strong it will be. And so then you can evacuate far ahead of time. You can't do the tornadoes. That's what makes tornadoes so uniquely dangerous. Is that all you know is that, well, there could be.

And then it's here. And that's it. And once it's here, it's too late to leave. You stay, you hunker down. So I don't think it's fair to hit Amazon on either of those points. But being that they were in a relatively tornado prone area, if they didn't have any kind of shelter within the building, then I think that you can hold them at fault for that.

I think they claim that they did have a shelter, but some of the employees chose not to enter the shelter for whatever reason. I don't know if that's true or not. But if they didn't have a shelter, that's a problem. But these other things, I wouldn't go after them for that. I think these are people who don't understand tornadoes or how they work. And so that's how they work. All right.

Here is, okay, I got to play this for you. This is an interesting and instructive video. Leah Thomas, quote unquote, Leah Thomas, is the male swimmer at University of Pennsylvania. You remember this story we've talked about over the last week. He was, I don't know, I don't know. if he was a, he wasn't, I don't think he qualified as necessarily a top male athlete as a swimmer for the first three years of his college career, but he was, he was certainly competitive. He was a competitive male athlete as a swimmer for three years. In his final year, he says, you know what? It turns out I'm a

woman, and he decides to go over and compete against the women. And now he's dominating the competition, dominating because he was competitive. This is different from some of these other cases where you've got very mediocre male athletes or poor male athletes who come over to the female side and they win pretty handily. But it's not the same level of domination. So we could talk about that. I mean, we could talk about how he's dominating the competition. I can tell you that, for example, in one of his recent meets.

He finished first and second place was, 40 seconds behind him. Now, in terms of swimming, in terms of a race, unless it's a marathon, 40 seconds might as well be four months. That's how big the gap is. But we could talk about that intellectually. We can think about it intellectually.

I think to see it is a whole different matter. So I want to play. This is a recent race. And I'll have to narrate it a little bit. And if you're watching on audio, then maybe go dailywire.com or go to YouTube and when you get a chance to see this footage for yourself because you have to see this. So let's play this. This was a recent race.

And you see the arrow there, okay, kind of the middle lane. There's the arrow. That is Leah Thomas. Okay, he's finished. And listen, do you hear anybody cheering in the crowd? They're not cheering. He finished. He won.

So middle lane there where the arrow was. He's done. And now he's waiting. Now, here's, we see some female competitors. They're coming up to the wall. Are they going to be second? No, they still have a whole other lap to go. And we've got someone else, some people on the far lane there.

Are they coming? Is that going to be second? Are they second place? No, not second. We still haven't got the second place. They've got a whole other lap to go. Okay, now finally we get second place. There is, and listen to this.

Oh, don't listen. Okay, we cut it off. The crowd starts cheering for that person because the crowd knows. The crowd knows the score. Leah Thomas finishes. I think that you may have heard one person clapping. I don't know if that's someone in his family. And then the real winner finishes,

and then you get the crowd cheering. That's what 40 seconds looks like in a race. As I said, it may as well have been four months. Thomas could have gotten out of the track and started eating a snack or something. He could have got out of the track, got a hot pocket, went to a microwave, heated it up, started eating it, and then come back and watch the rest of the race, and then he would have seen second place. That's how far ahead he was.

That is the difference biologically between men and women. That's the advantage that your biology gives you if you're a male. It is an insurmountable advantage. You think any of those women there, as talented as they may be against women, what are they going to do to shape 40 seconds off their time? Maybe if they start taking steroids, but even then probably not. Because he's on steroids. That's the thing. When you're a male racing against women, it's cheating. You have a chemical advantage very similar to the advantage that someone with performance enhancing drugs has. It's a similar advantage. You have similar chemicals coursing through your veins, except naturally rather than artificially. And even if you can diminish those chemicals because you're suppressing hormones or

whatever, you're taking estrogen, you still have all of the other advantages that come with being a male. That give you a 40-second head start. Total farce, total joke. And yet, yeah, we could appreciate the crowd for cheering for the right winner, but they still held the race. And all those, you know, the parents came and they watched. As long as you're doing the race and participating in it, then you are participating in this farce. You're propping it up. You're supporting it. We need more than people kind of passive aggressively not cheering for Thomas. that's good but we need a lot more than that there need to be there need to be protests there need to be female athletes coming together and and agreeing that they're not going to participate

in races where he's there you do that and maybe we'll start seeing some change maybe um all right one other thing this is from the daily caller is a superstar billy ilish opened up about how she started watching porn it around the age of 11 and said she feels watching it has destroyed her brain and 19-year-old singer shared during an appearance on the Howard Stern Show. As a woman, I think porn is a disgrace. I used to watch a lot of porn, to be honest. I started watching porn when I was like 11. I think it really destroyed my brain. I feel incredibly devastated that I was exposed to so much porn. I'm so angry that porn is so angry at myself for thinking that it was okay. The way that vaginas look in porn is effing crazy. No vaginas look like that. Women's bodies don't look like that. We don't like that. The first few times I had sex, I was not saying no to things. were not good. It was because I thought that's what I was supposed to be attracted to. Okay. I mean, this is, on one hand, if you want to look at from the pessimistic angle, it is frustrating that some of us have been saying this about pornography for years.

And we've been shouted down and mocked and everything. Oh, it's with porn. It's just images on a screen. What's the big deal? It's just a fantasy. Oh, what do you mean? Porn harms harms women. That's silly. That's ridiculous. And now when a 19-year-old pop star starts saying, if people take it a little bit more seriously, that's a pessimistic angle of it. But, you know, whoever the source needs to be, I'm glad that this is happening. And she's not the first one. This, in fact, is what we need. We need people. Yeah, I mean, someone like me, I can sit here all day and talk about that and say what a harm it is. But to a certain extent, it's always going to be dismissed as religious puritanism or whatever.

But Billy Eilish, as far as I know, I'm assuming, I could be wrong. I'm assuming not a devout Christian. And she's telling you her own experience. She's not alone in this. In fact, there's a whole generation of people, if you would listen to them, people about Billy Eilish's age, just now becoming adults, and they grew up with this stuff. They are the first generation that grew up with online porn. And I don't want to hear anything from older people about, oh, what are you talking about when I was a kid?

There was a playboy under my dad's mattress, that whole canard. I mean, if your dad had pornography under his mattress and he was allowing you to access it, then your dad was a creep. And I'm sorry about that. But that is nothing like this. Okay, magazines, magazine images on pieces of paper, nothing like the the permeation of hardcore porn that children young children I mean she says at age 11 she started looking at this stuff so these are prepubescent kids she says it destroyed her brain she's right now fortunately the damage is not permanent there's a way to to overcome it I think but there are certain effects that will linger forever

because this is during your formative years this is before puberty your idea of human sexuality is very much shaped by all this stuff that you're watching online you get a little bit older and you realize that it was shaped in this way and misshaped by it then that's when you can start to recover but it does it does have an effect that to a certain extent i mean you know i just said a second ago that it's not permanent i think in fact some of the damage actually is permanent it won't it doesn't doom you to uh to a dysfunctional sex life or dysfunctional relationships your whole life but it is there are there is some permanent done because of what these kids are being exposed to, how early they're being exposed to it,

how much of it they're exposed to, how often. And so if you listen to the kids who are not, you know, not kids now, they're adults, but if you just listen to them, so many of them will say exactly this, I grew up with this and I wish that I hadn't. You, you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who's 20 years old right now and is happy that they've been watching hardcore porn since the age of eight years old. You're gonna be hard pressed to find somebody like that.

You're gonna find plenty of people who have not had this awakening moment that Billy Elish has where they realize the damage that's done. But if you ask them if this, you know, if they look back at their childhood, their life, has this helped them? Was that time well spent? Do they wish they had watched even more?

I think the answer to all those questions is going to be no. So this is very, very different from the magazine under the mattress deal. These are kids that are exposed to the most, I mean, the most grotesque imagery that you can imagine. Like images right from the bowels of hell that have been brought up and bubbled up

and that our kids are now their minds are marinating in for years and years and years. Does that cause trauma? Yeah, it does. And if you don't believe that, then think about, I mean, if you heard about a case of sexual abuse where a 10-year-old kid, a 9-year-old kid, was allowed to be in the room while something like what you would see in porn was happening right in front of them, okay, we would all agree that that is sexual abuse, that this is a, that child is a sexual abuse victim.

This is that he was molested, even if he wasn't physically touched, He is a victim of sexual abuse at molestation. I think we'd all agree with that. I would hope we'd all agree with that. And that the adults who were performing this sexual act in front of the child should go to prison as sexual abusers. Well, if we could all agree that that is traumatic sexual abuse, then how is it any different when the kid is viewing this stuff on a screen? Does that magically make it all okay? Does that screen act as some sort of psychological?

or emotional barrier where the damage that would be done if they were in the same room isn't done anymore, it doesn't make any sense. If you agree that simply encountering those images and viewing an act like this at that age, if you agree that it can be emotionally and psychologically traumatic and damaging and tantamount to sexual abuse, if you agree that that's the case in person, then you should agree with that in what it comes to pornography, which means that we have an entire generation and now multiple generations of sexual abuse victims. Like all of these kids are sexual abuse victims because of what they've been exposed to. That's also why I think you can make a very strong argument for banning this stuff

because it is sexual abuse. You're putting this stuff out there where you know that kids not only can access it, but millions of them are every single. single day and you are purposefully making a contribution to that contributing to the sexual abuse of children. I think you could ban it on for that reason alone. That's my view. Okay, let's get now to the comment section. Daily cancellations are the law. You know, for a lot of people in your home, the garage is where you come and go. It's the most, it's one of the more active places in your house. You're walking through to enter. It's one of the most common entry points for a home. Lots of things happen

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Alexandra says, Matt, death penalty question. the written house trial, an interesting point was made on Tim Poole's show that since we were this close to setting an innocent kid to jail for political reasons, how can we trust the state to properly decide who they're going to kill? It made me think and I actually decided that my distrust in the state and political establishment is so deep that I can no longer support the death penalty, especially with current tyrannical practices around the world. What do you think? I mean, I understand that argument, but I don't find a persuasive for a few reasons. I'll focus on one, which is that, you know, why aren't you arguing against life in prison without parole? I mean, I mean, by that logic, then we shouldn't be doling out any punishments at all. You know, there's a chance that the state could send people to prison for their whole lives, lock them in a cage, even if they're innocent. And I'm sure that has, in fact, happened. I don't think it happens very often. But I think we'd be pretty sure that there have been cases of someone going to jail,

spending 60 years in jail locked in a cage, although they're innocent, and they die in jail. So in order to avoid that risk and that eventuality, should we get rid of life sentences or prison sentences in general? No, I don't think the answer is to do away with these punishments and these penalties, which I think you need in a civilized society. We're not going to give up on having a civilized society. We're not going to give up on justice.

That's the other thing. This is not just about, it's partly about segregating, dangerous people, life in prison, you're segregating dangerous people from society. And then when it comes to the most depraved and the most dangerous people who have done the worst kinds of things and who have been reduced themselves to monsters, to animals basically through their behavior, I think they call for for the safety of society, for the sake of society. I think they call for the ultimate form of segregation from society, which is the permanent death penalty. That's part of it, but the other part is justice. And are we going to

give up on that? I think when you do certain things, a man rapes and kills a child, justice demands the death penalty. Anything less than that is not justice. And so the argument here is, well, let's give up on that because sometimes justice is not done correctly. sometimes there is injustice in the name of justice. Sometimes justice is misapplied or, you know, I think the answer is just to work on the justice system to make sure it's done correctly. Lex, as you mentioned again today abolishing the Department of Education. Do you want to abolish the whole public school system too? What would take its place?

Do you really think we can privatize all of education? Well, yes to all those questions, but with a very important qualifier. So when it comes to education, like most things in life, I'm a believer in subsidiarity, and that means that it should be handled on the most local level possible. So I want education to be private and local. And the local part is really important. Sometimes that gets left out of this conversation. Now, the most localized form of private education is homeschool. It's also the most private form of private education. And that's why I think it's great. And I'm a homeschool advocate. But I am in favor of local private schools also. the local part is very important, and here's why. If, in my fantasy, the public education was abolished tomorrow, and it doesn't exist anymore,

Department of Education is gone, public education system is gone, government is out of the education business. If that would happen tomorrow, and that was it, and there was nothing else put in place, and all we cared about was let's just get rid of this, and anything is better than that, well you know what we would have next the next week there would be amazon elementary you know coca cola middle school um disney high right these mega conglomerates would move in and they would take over education and all the things that we hate about public education right now would be would would be present in fact probably be even worse because at least with public education there is the pretense the hope at least that you can have some influence um on what happens in the school

system through the school board and so on. And we've seen that actually happened successfully, especially recently. But with privatized conglomerate education, there isn't even the possibility of that. So that's why I have this really important qualifier. Yes, I'm in favor of getting rid of the public education system, but what comes in its place must be local and private. One of my problems with public school education is that it is not local. But you're taking this thing, by its nature be as local as it possibly can be and as personalized as it possibly can be, and you're turning it into this kind of factory assembly line strategy. And you've got this federal agency overseeing all of it.

That's the wrong way to approach it. And I would not be in favor of getting rid of this massive bureaucracy overseeing education just to put a different one in its place. And this is something I think conservatives in general are slow to understand that big corporations are oftentimes just as bad as the government, sometimes worse, because they are large politicized bureaucracies run by elites, just like the government. All right. And let's see.

Gianna says, why is Eureka O'Hara always making his way onto the Matt Walsh show? He was also the drag queen of the Dave Chappelle protest outside the Netflix office. Okay, I thought I recognized him. Yeah, so the drag queen from our daily cancellation, you know, yesterday, the large one, the Ursula looking one. I thought he was at the Dave Chappelle protest. I usually remember faces, unless I consciously try to suppress them from my own mental well-being, which I might have done here. I don't know. Maybe drag queen Eureka O'Hara is becoming the primary antagonist of the Matt Wall show. There's always someone, right? As we go through

the seasons of this show, there's always a main villain. And I think prior to this, it was probably Demi Lovado and before it was like maybe Lil Nas X. And now it's Eureka O'Hara, the final boss. Not only was the Daily Wire First in the nation to sue the Biden administration for their unconstitutional mandate, but we're getting closer to a million signatures on our do not comply petition every single day. Why? Well, because people are realizing that if we don't actively fight for our freedom, the government will take it. We have a goal of reaching one million signatures, which would provide a major boost to our legal challenge. We have over 875,000 signatures so far. So we're going to get there, but let's get there as soon as we possibly can.

Help us cross the finish line. Go to dailywire.com slash do not comply and sign the petition today. Now let's get to our daily cancellation. Today we have a reverse cancellation, not in my own defense, but in defense of Ben Shapiro's sister Abby. I'm doing this segment today because Ben said we all had to do it or we'd be fired. But mostly I'm doing it because Abby is being unfairly maligned for something she said on Twitter a few days ago. She has a nice social media following of her own. And she posted a side-by-side picture of Madonna and Nancy Reagan.

Madonna is, this is a picture for Madonna, this is a picture from a few days ago. She's spread out on a bed and lingerie with her nipple poking out. A heavily photoshopped image, by the way, to the point where this is more of a cartoon than a photograph. And then Nancy Reagan in the picture taken decades ago is dressed in an outfit appropriate for a woman her age and surrounded by her children, grandchildren, her husband. And Abby captions, this is Madonna at 63. This is Nancy Reagan at 64. Trashy living versus classic living. Which version of yourself do you want to be? Now, the reaction, perhaps predictably, was an eruption of outsized, hyperbolic rage and mockery from the left.

Abby was trending on Twitter for a few days because so many people were lining up to dunk on this tweet, as the kids would say. It was supposed to be somehow not only wrong, but self-evidently outrageous to suggest that perhaps it's not ideal for 63-year-old women to be presenting their naked bodies to the public for attention. But as always, the people pretending to be wounded or vexed by this statement are simply trying to rationalize. their own life choices. It is one enormous act of overcompensation. Now, if Madonna wanted to dress that way for her husband, there'd be no reason for complaint. I mean, none of us would know about it. So no reason for us to complain. No reason for her husband to complain, I imagine. But I'm pretty sure Madonna doesn't have a husband because she divorced all of them and she's now dating the pool boy or whoever. And so this is not something done in the privacy of her home, but broadcast to the world for

public consumption. It is pathetic and humiliating and degrading for a person of any age to offer up their body as an object to strangers, but it's especially pitiful for a woman of Madonna's age. There's a certain dignity that's supposed to come with age, and it's good to gain dignity with age because it takes the place of what you lose, and you do lose some things with age, namely you lose a certain degree of physical beauty and vitality. So this is the bargain that our mortality makes with us. It says to us, okay, I'm going to take your beauty and your youthful energy, but I'll trade you, wisdom, maturity, and dignity. So that's what you get. And you may as well take mortality up on this bargain because it's going

to extract its cost regardless. Even if you say, no, thank you. I'm not interested in your wisdom and dignity, which is what Madonna has said. Well, still, mortality says, well, but I'm taking youthfulness anyway, and I'm taking beauty. And you're going to be left with plastic surgery and Photoshop. And so now, women like Madonna are just old, wrinkled, desperate, dumb, immature weirdos. In Madonna's case, she has had attention her whole life. She's been famous way longer than she was a normal person. She defines herself by attention and fame, but unfortunately she lacks the ability to attract it artistically. She hasn't made a relevant song in about 30 years probably, so this is all she has. Her half-naked body. It's the only way to gain the spotlight

that she craves and that she needs. Contrast that with Nancy Reagan as depicted in the photo, and you see an older woman who has grown into her role as an older woman, embraced it, accepted mortality's bargain, and benefited from the trade. So which version of ourselves should we want to be? I mean, I think that's pretty obvious. In fact, it's interesting to note that Abby is not alone in making this point.

The rapper 50 Cent, who probably does not line up with the Shapiro family very often when it comes to political and cultural views, actually made a similar observation in his, own way. commenting on these photos when they were posted to Instagram, 50 Cent said, yo, this is the funniest shit, L-O-L-L. That's Madonna under the bed trying to do like a virgin at 63. She shot out if she don't get her old ass up. So that's basically what Ben Shapiro's sister was trying to say. And you could decide who communicated the point more eloquently. As it happens, Madonna's response to 50 cents comments, she responded calling them misogynistic,

agist, and sexist. So she's playing the standard game of parading her naked body around in front of millions of strangers, and then recoiling in horror when a few of those strangers dare to express their opinion about the spectacle. But she has no room to complain. If she didn't want to hear 50 cents opinion about her appearance as she lays naked on a bed, then she shouldn't have went through the trouble of documenting herself in that condition and posting it on social media for millions of people to see. Once you present something like that to the world, once you present anything to the world. Once you take anything and say, here you go, world, look at this. The world has a right to pass its judgment. If you really don't want to hear the world's judgment, or you think the

world has no right to make such judgments, then keep it to yourself. That goes for your naked body. It goes for your opinions. If you express an opinion to the world, I do it all the time. Hey, world, here's my opinion about this. And if people attack me for it, I might respond to those attacks. I might hit back, but I'm not going to I'm not going to say you're crying, that they disagree. How dare you give your opinion about my opinion? But Madonna understands this, but

this is the game she plays. It's a pretty common game, especially in the internet age, but usually it's played by people who are young and dumb and who struggle to differentiate between what should be private and what should be public. Madonna is old and still struggling in that way, mainly because she never formed any sort of real personal identity outside of her role as celebrity.

That's what makes this sort of exhibition so woefully depressing because it's empty. I mean, this is an empty person grasping out for attention because it's the one thing that gives her life meaning. By her age, she ought to have a full life, deeply moored in family and relationships, as Nancy Reagan clearly had at that point in her own life. So which fate would you rather share? Do you want to be the woman less than a decade away from turning 70, prostituting yourself with images Photoshop to make you look 50 years younger? Or do you want to be surrounded by family and by love and by loyalty and to leave behind a real legacy. I think we all know which we would prefer. That's the point Abby was making, and she could not

have been more right about it, which is why the people canceling her are today finally canceled. And we'll leave it there for today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Buy my book at Johnny thewalvers.com. Godspeed. Somewhere past the pandemic. when we're free there's a life I remember full of activity Well if you enjoyed this episode Don't forget to subscribe

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