The Matt Walsh Show - Mom Reveals HORRIFYING Details Of Woke Middle School Corruption | Matt Walsh Talks To Nicole Georgas

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

Matt Walsh sits down with Illinois mother, Nicole Georgas, who inserted herself in the middle of a massive controversy with her local middle school.   Click here to join the member-exclusive portion ...of my show: https://bit.ly/4bEQDy6   Ep.1568   - - -   DailyWire+:   We’re leading the charge again and launching a full-scale push for justice. Go to https://PardonDerek.com right now and sign the petition.   Now is the time to join the fight. Watch the hit movies, documentaries, and series reshaping our culture. Go to https://dailywire.com/subscribe today.   Get your Matt Walsh flannel here: https://bit.ly/3EbNwyj   - - -   Today's Sponsor:   Balance of Nature - Go to https://balanceofnature.com and use promo code WALSH for 35% off your first order PLUS get a free bottle of Fiber and Spice.   - - -   Socials:    Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3Rv1VeF   Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3KZC3oA   Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3eBKjiA   Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RQp4rs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:56 Your life deserves music. Your music deserves Bose. Find your perfect product at bows.com. Joined by Nicole Georges is the mother of a student of 13-year-old girl at Shepard Middle School in Illinois. We've discussed Nicole's case on the show, and she gave an impassioned speech at a school board meeting speaking out against how her daughter has been treated. And we'll talk about that. We'll get to all that. But first, Nicole, thanks for joining us.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Thank you for having, Matt. Me, Matt. I really appreciate it. Now, for anyone not familiar with your case, let's just walk through. what happened, kind of what led you up to the point of speaking to the school board, and then we're going to talk about what happened after that. So can you just kind of take us through the whole story with your daughter from start to end? Sure. Thank you. So my daughter is a middle schooler, and she is 13 years old.
Starting point is 00:01:51 She went to school on a normal day and was in the bathroom where she was using the bathroom, and a boy was in the stall next to her. When she exited, she came home, talked to her dad and I, and we said the next day, go talk to your teacher, find out why he was in the bathroom because she knew he was a boy with genitalia,
Starting point is 00:02:14 male genitalia. We'll just say it like it is. And when she talked to her teacher the next day, her teacher said he now identifies as a she and that he would be using the bathroom as well as the locker room now. She was very upset as her dad and I were very upset. So we reached out to the administration with a phone call as well as an email and said that the Trump administration had put an executive order into place.
Starting point is 00:02:46 And we said that obviously maybe you're not on top of things as you should be. And obviously what is going on now with the school? They said, let's have a follow-up with the phone conversation, which we had the phone conversation with the principal. The principal said, we are not following the executive order. We are following the state law. And I said, well, if that's how it's going to be, I'm filing a civil rights complaint today.
Starting point is 00:03:13 This was on February 7th. A couple weeks had gone by. Nothing had really happened. The girls had been going to pee as usual. but we went preparing that this child was going to be using the girls locker room. The child was then using the girls' locker room on his own, where he was being brought in on his own without the girls being present. So he was using the girls' locker room on his own without the girls being in there.
Starting point is 00:03:45 So after lunch or before lunch, I don't know exactly how it was, but he was being taken into the girls' locker room without the girls in there. so he was getting special treatment from what I understand. So then came mid-February, the end of February, where the girls had decided when he was going to be in there, they did not want to change with him present in the locker room. So they all decided to not wear their uniform with him present. They made a little protest. The PE teachers were fine with that.
Starting point is 00:04:17 They said, you don't have to change. Fine. As long as you put on your gym shoes, we're okay with that. which was wonderful. The next day, the assistant principal pulled multiple girls into her office and reprimanded them, asking them, why did you do this? This is against policy. You need to be, you know, you need to wear your uniform. That same day, she brought in this assistant superintendent. Now, this assistant superintendent does not have an office at Shepard Middle School. She is across the, in a different office building, where the district protest was that night, where I had spoke to.
Starting point is 00:04:59 So she had to get in her car to come to Shepard Middle School that day. She was there and then two other teachers were there to make the girls change into their uniform with the child's presence that day. My daughter changed that day. She was forced. now comes the next day. The same parties had to come there. So she, again, had the assistant superintendent, had to drive to the school, get in her car. Same thing happened.
Starting point is 00:05:28 That's when my daughter, the male was in the locker room with him. He was going to change. And that's when my daughter said, uh-uh, no way, not happening. I am not changing in front of this kid. She got on the phone, called me hysterical crying, called her father too, and said, what do I do? I'm not changing. And I said, absolutely straight. You are not changing.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Not happening. Thank God she had her phone with her. And she ran out of the locker room, hysterical crying. And she said, I'm going to get in trouble. I can't have a phone here. I said, you're not going to get in trouble. Put me on the phone to the first person to the adult you see because I will have a serious conversation with them, which I did.
Starting point is 00:06:05 And I went absolutely postal on the phone to the first person that I talked to. And I said, how dare you do this? How dare you make my change in front of all of these. women and how dare you make me make my daughter try because she wouldn't change in front of this in front of this boy. I said, he has a penis. He absolutely has a penis and it's not happening. And that's what happened. Then I followed up with an email to the principal and his response was, we can just have your daughter move to a different PE class for the remainder of the year. And I said, nope, not happening either. Why should my daughter have to?
Starting point is 00:06:45 move to a different PE class. She has done nothing wrong. She is a girl. She remains in that PE class. The only thing my daughter's not doing is she's not changing for the remainder of the year. And that's where we're at today now until I went to a board meeting. I'm juggling life as a husband, father, and show host. Trust me, things are generally chaotic around here. Can you imagine trying to somehow eat 31 different fruits and vegetables every single day? It sounds absolutely miserable, not to mention the hours. would take, and to be honest, sometimes I just want to roll through a drive-thru and order something that would make a doctor quietly weep. But that's where Balance of Nature fruits and veggies
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Starting point is 00:08:00 you told your daughter put you on the phone with the first adult she saw, and you expressed your... Ever she ran out. Right, right. And you expressed your very righteous anger to this adult. What did this adult say back? Anything? She just kept saying, Mrs. George's, Mrs. George, you're directing your anger at the wrong person. I think it was the secretary that I spoke to because I was, I was, rightfully so. I was screaming. I was, I didn't swear, but I was absolutely beside myself.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I said, are you proud of yourself? Are you absolutely proud of yourself? And I just kept saying, this child has a penis. Yeah. So, and I just want to. These are 13 years. old. They are little girls. Of course.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Just to kind of reiterate this, because I find it it's so baffling to me. It's probably, it's got to be all on video on FOIA when it comes through. You'll see my daughter running down the halls. You'll see teachers all running, going into the locker room when the FOIA comes out. It's going to be all there. So just to be very clear,
Starting point is 00:09:11 it was a group of adults actually physically in the locker room and the boy was there and they were saying to the daughter and the other girls you have to get changed right now while they were watching. Is that it? Yes, and then on the District 109 policy it says that no child is required to change.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Well, if no child is required to change, why were there more adults there and why was an administrator driven every single day if no child's required to change? District 109. So this is what takes us through through the initial incident, and you end up in this, it was a school board meeting, correct? Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Where I would say 85% of the people do not live in Deerfield, do not reside in Deerfield, do not have children that even go to Shepard Middle School or any of the schools in Deerfield. They were activists that were told that there would be moms for liberty people there. I was the only person from her liberty, the only one. person. Yeah. So, in the video. They were planned acting.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Right. So there's activists that came in from out of town. The video is pretty incredible and pretty startling because, you know, you obviously are so clearly in the right about this situation. And yet, in the video, anyway, it appeared that you were totally outnumbered by a bunch of, frankly, lunatics. Is that what it was in the room? Were you the only sane person in the room?
Starting point is 00:10:43 there are other people on your side that were there? No, there was there was two other moms and one dad and my husband that was standing in the because he had no seats because there was nobody else. And there was police officers there too. I had to be escorted out because they were trying, they were all following me to my car. They were following you to your car. What were they doing? Yelling at you while you were they doing? They yelled at me the whole time. And the school board was telling them to they were telling us because they were they were they were screaming the whole time at us directing every time that they would talk they would turn around and yell and yell at us i just sat there the whole time and and just kind of kind of just laughed at them i didn't if you watch the
Starting point is 00:11:25 whole video i didn't even say a word because it just was actually comical all they how they behaved i mean they made absolutely they they were a joke they were an absolute joke and they don't have any say in what goes on in our district. They don't live here. They don't have children that go here. There was maybe a few people there that actually lived in the district, but they didn't even have kids that actually attended Shepard. What about? And there was a few people that did live in the district, and they didn't even stand up and speak. So shame on them. Absolutely. And I was going to ask you, so your daughter was not the only girl that was in this situation. What about the parents of the other? girls, have any of them joined you in speaking out against this?
Starting point is 00:12:14 Not, not, but there's been over 50 complaints currently right now in Deerfield. Representative Mary Miller of Illinois has over 50 complaints currently right now in Deerfield, right now. She is calling on President Trump to codify the executive order and make it law. So we call on the congressmen right now, call on Congressmen to codify it. because right now there's over 50 complaints currently. And what's the, how is the school responded in the midst of all this? And now with all the attention it's getting, what's the atmosphere like?
Starting point is 00:12:54 They're standing down right now. And there's a federal complaint. They're standing down saying they put a policy up online on District 109 saying that there was, that there was five private spaces in the locker room and that none of the children are required to change. Well, if they're not required to change, why would you bring in teachers every single day? And five private spaces, there's 25 to 30 girls in the gym class. How does that, what math, how does that add up? Is the boy still allowed to use the changing room, the girls changing room currently? Every day, every day. The kids are on spring break. Because they go by what you
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Starting point is 00:13:56 And how's her daughter doing right now with all this? She's super strong right now. She's definitely getting ostracized in school right now. I've talked to the principal about it multiple times. she was told to leave her lunch table by a very mean girl that she does not, that she doesn't belong in her lunch table. So we have had to have a conversation with the principal about that twice. And the principal said, well, that child has the right to believe what she wants. So, I mean, this is where we're at.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And that's okay. Then that's somebody that, you know, everybody has their right to believe what they want. And there's nothing we can really do about that. Sure, but not to harp on it, but so there's not, there aren't a lot of other parents right now in that school that are kind of joining with you. There is right now. There's a lot, but there's people that they just do not. They are very afraid of the woke mob in Deerfield. There's a huge woke mob in Deerfield.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Sure. And very much so is. And it's strong. It's a very strong woke mob that you need to keep your face very, very, you just cannot. You can't have your image. How can I say it? You just have to keep your image very clean here. And I have no problem.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I will stand alone. And I know facts. And I don't really care. I know what's the truth. And this is where we're at. Have you felt you had to worry for your safety or your daughter's safety at all through all this? A little bit, especially when you have a, when you have a local, your local rep attacking you and your family on the house floor. You know, that's pretty, pretty sad.
Starting point is 00:15:58 What are the local, what do the local rep say on the house floor? He called us lawyers on the house floor. I mean, and he lives in our town and he attacked us on the house floor. Wow. And in the Greenfield, you know, and that's pretty sad. I mean, you're shaming a little girl, a victim, called us liars on the house floor. So we went down to Springfield two days later and showed our face to show we're not going to hide. We're not, we will stand up for ourselves.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I'm not afraid. And stood there and actually did a speech on the house, did a speech in Springfield. And stood there proud because we know what's the truth. We know what's right. And I will not hide. I'm proud. You know, I'm very proud. And I've still backing us.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And the thing is, I've had so many emails from local Deerfield families that have been here for 40, 50 years that are so disgusted what has happened to this town and are so proud. And also past Shepard families that this is the reason why they left Deerfield because of this community, because of what these people, these administrators have did to their kids. and they're so proud wrote Kate letters. That's my daughter. It's just, and, you know, I don't care. I will fight till the death over this because I know what's right. And I, you know, I've talked to Riley Gaines.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I've talked to Caitlin Wheeler. I've talked to, you know, Jennifer Say, I've talked to everybody. This is the reason why I know what's right. And I will fight forever for these girls, even if it means I'm still alone. Now, when it comes to fighting, what's, for you, what's the next step in the fight?
Starting point is 00:17:40 Policy change, policy change. That's all I care about. I don't want any girl to have to walk in a bathroom with a boy. That's it. That's all I care about. Keeping it, keep it. Common sense. Common sense.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Keep it simple. And do you have any, do you have hope? Is there a real, is it a, do you feel there's a movement for actual policy change in the state? I hope so. I think, you know, we have the administration on our side. So I think that things will, I think we have a, you know, a wonderful president that I think will, is behind us. And I thank God for that. And I think that we, you know, we have, I think God for that.
Starting point is 00:18:23 I think if it was a couple years ago, absolutely not. We would be in a very different situation. I have hope. I have hope. I hope in God and I have faith in God every day. So, you know, I pray and we have a good representation. So. Well, Nicole Georges, I.
Starting point is 00:18:42 what you and your daughter are going through is just, as I said, it's mind-boggling. It's baffling. It's outrageous. But, you know, the reality is that there's many, many kids across the country going through similar things. So thanks for your courage in fighting back against this. And please keep us posted on the progress. Absolutely. Thank you again for having me, Matt. I really appreciate it.

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