The McShay Show - Georgia Topples Tennessee, Oregon's Close Call, and Travis Hunter’s Historic Heisman Case. Plus: A Texas Temperature Check

Episode Date: November 17, 2024

McShay and Muench fire up the mics after end of Georgia-Tennessee with their instant reactions to Week 12 of college football! They kick off with Georgia’s win and Carson Beck’s bounceback performance (03:18). Then, they hit on Oregon’s scare against Wisconsin (28:08), LSU’s fading playoff hopes after a third straight loss (32:13), and some Texas concerns (50:42). Finally, they discuss if Travis Hunter’s historic season has locked him in for the Heisman (01:02:48). The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Host: Todd McShay Guest: Steve Muench Producers: Dan Comer, T Cruz, Marcelino Ortiz, and Conor Nevins Social: Eduardo Ocampo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mench. It turned out to be a fun week 12 of college football, man. It always is, right? No matter what happens. I thought we're going to have some upsets with some scares today, right? Yeah. Oregon number one team in the country in a dog fight in the fourth quarter. Yeah.

Texas escapes kind of an ugly game against Arkansas. Clemson escapes against Pitt. You didn't do anything in the second half until that 50-yard club nick run. South Carolina escapes Missouri tough game and SMU escapes with Boston College. But the big game

of the day. And I mean, last week we came on live, right? We came on live. Right. We had the Alabama LSU game and it was a dog. Right. Right. Some great upsets earlier in the day, a lot to talk about. But tonight we come on live on YouTube and we got a great

game to talk about. Yeah. Go ahead. ended up being 14 points, but it was a lot closer than that, I thought. So let's start here. All right. I know, I know this is coming. Go ahead. Let's get the important stuff out of the way, right?

Here we go. Hey, Fandul. Hey, FD. Sportsbook, at FD Sportsbook. Take that. Take your 10 and a half points and shove it, right? Yeah. And how beautiful is, how beautiful, though, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is Fanduel.

Yeah. I mean, that spread was hanging in the balance the whole night. I was nervous the whole time. George is dominating the second half. At first, I was like, we're down 10-0. And now we're going to mention all night. And then the over under 48 and a half. Unreal.

31.17. How do they know? I don't know, but they do. But you know, like, so we're in this new relationship with Fanduel, right? And they sponsor our show. We need them. We love them, right? We're here to work together.

But it's like that brother. Like, you know, like you, you love your brother. You need your brother. But you want to sometimes take, like grab his head and put him in the headlock and his face in the dirt, right? Right. Well, that's what I did this week to finish. You want to be the big brother, not the little brother.

Yeah. Well, today I was. Usually they are, you know, they've got the bigger checkbook. They write the check. Yeah. At the bottom of the McShay show, you can see it, you know, the fund duels, the sponsor of. the show but we took them down today mensch and i'll take that and i think that this is a this is a loving

relationship but there's going to be some bickering and i and i won this i won this battle not necessarily the war but won this battle same game parley i threw out there i had georgia all right enough of the nonsense it's not what we do but it's it's nice to get a big one yeah and i told you're a sucker but we can move on you yeah you did you did how about this game man give me your first reaction You go first. So obviously we're going to get into Carson Beck. I'll leave that. But the one number, I'll leave that for a little bit later, the one number that jumps out

of me, and there's some interesting stats in this game, Tennessee, zero sacks. That offensive line for Georgia goad up in a big way tonight. Big makeshift offensive line, no earner's green. It's, you know, I just did not expect that kind of performance from the offensive line, and they just showed out. So super impressive. I was surprised that. Remember, this is an offensive line, Mitch last week, five sacks allowed,

right? Nine tackles for loss allowed, hit after hit, pressure after pressure on Carson Beck. Ole Miss last week annihilated that Georgia offensive line. And that offensive line, I know the stats have been good. If you go to PFF, the numbers have been good. But we've studied the tape. And when you study, there were some flaws. But this I thought personally, and you're my old line guy,

but I thought personally this is the best performance. that George's offensive line put on tape all year long. By far, by far. And it's super encouraging going forward for them. I mean, if they can continue to do that, they're in good shape. I mean, I don't even, I don't know what the pressure numbers were. I mean, forget the sacks. I don't, I don't, he was comfortable, man.

Yeah, he did not get sacked. Yeah. So I don't know what the pressures were or how they do all that, but, I mean, he was comfortable in the pocket. Did they run the ball great? No, but they ran it well enough. And at the end, they ran it when they needed to. That's the other thing.

Tell me how you're going to show up in the, the fourth quarter. And when they needed to make plays of the fourth quarter, that offensive line came together and made plays. So to me, that's Carson Beck is the headline of this, of this. No question. But the offensive line, I mean, you know where I'm going. You knew I had to go to the big boys up front and tell you how well they played. No, and they deserve to get to get top billing here, truthfully. Right. Because that was, that was arguably the biggest question mark coming in this game, coming off that old miss game, going against a Tennessee defensive front that we said, not going to have as many high draft picks this year. But, but,

But over the course of time, we'll have a lot of high draft picks and a lot of draft picks. You know, Tennessee's defense, they're rotating eight defensive tackles at game. Yeah. I thought it was six, but eight, I mean, doesn't surprise me. Six edges. That's 14 dudes. They're hockey line shifting it. And so like that, so, all right, let's let's go back to the beginning for a minute.

And we will get to Carson Beck, because I've got a lot of strong opinions on person back tonight. Yeah, as he should. I love what Tennessee coordinator did, Tim Banks coming in. Great defensive plan. Both, honest to God, the first half of the game, especially the first quarter of the game, I thought the first quarter of the game, Tennessee out coached Georgia. And that's not at all a slight on Kirby Smart or anyone in that coaching. I just thought, like, Tennessee had an awesome plan on both sides. What's focused defensively right now, Tim Banks, the coordinator, comes out and they're doing a great job stopping the run, right? Really limiting Frazier in that Georgia run game.

That's making Georgia one-dimensional. They're playing man to man. They're holding up on the edge. On the perimeter, I mean, and they're doing that knowing, right? Go ahead, beat us. Right. To us that you've got more in the barrel than you've shown so far this year, because the wide receivers, we talk every week.

The wide receivers are the weak spot for Georgia. Right. And early on, Carson Beck came out. He was two for nine to start. Yeah. Right. Now, now there were drops. But the defensive game plan, I thought, was really good early on.

We're going to trust our front four. We're going to, we're going to play man to man on the outside. We're going to have the safeties involved in the run game. We're not going to bring a ton of extra pressure, but we are going to keep them up closer and not. and not get overly worried about what's going on in the perimeter with our safety. Because we've got to stop the run, even though the run has not been great for Georgia this year. And Travis E.N's out with the rib injury.

Still, Frazier is a really talented back. And you know if you're playing Georgia, you've got to stop the run. And they did that. They did that early on. And it was all on Beck and his receivers. And it wasn't going well early. Right. Then it was Carson Beck's time.

like this to me we all came into the year anyone who follows the NFL draft anyone who follows college football carson back was number one quarterback coming in major Pete dambl on game day early on he he surveyed a bunch of NFL scouts and in the the player they got the most votes at the quarterback position for who's going to be the first quarterback off the board was carson back and it was by a by a decent amount he was kind of like the majority vote for for number one quarterback And then the season started. And there was no security blanket at tight end. Brock Bowers is with the Raiders.

There's no Ladd-McConkie, the difference maker, the versatility, the route running, the speed that he brought, he's gone. And then they had two wide receivers who are supposed to be key parts on offense that are not with the team or suspended or some kind of violations. They're not there. Right? Yeah. And so now all of a sudden, he's struggling.

And we took just like three weeks ago, I think. I think the regression is real. I'll never free it. Right. And it was on tape. And there were other factors, but he was pressing. He was not playing well. Then remember last week, we came out and coming off that game last week.

I said, Georgia fans, I know you're not going to want to hear this right now, but that's the best I've seen your quarterback play all year. Right. And remember I talked about the Molly McGrath report and how we went back and sell. scouted and how he realized at first and 10 he was playing like his fourth and one the most he had he had to take some pressure off himself go with trust his reads it's almost like he had a reset and he played well in that game everything else is falling apart around him but he played well in that game and he carried over to tonight and early in the game when he's two for nine first throw of the game

it takes a shot to 11 to um to smith smith yep drop right you know and so two drops of the first nine passes of the game. And by the way, did you know, coming into this game, Georgia Georgia's receivers, Georgia as a team, leads the SEC with drops, 27 drops coming in. They have four drops in the first half,

two in the first quarter. So all of that said, Carson Beck was the story tonight. The offensive line was great. The defense pitched a shut out in the second half. Carson Beck, watching him, that's the reason why NFL scouts, when surveyed by Pete Thamwell in the preseason and early in the season,

said, yeah, he's QB1 in 2025. Yeah, listen, I got to say, as he usually does, Herb Street was outstanding tonight. And he said it almost right away after that scramble. When Carson Beck made, you know, escaped a sack and squeezed out of it and all of some scrambles for a first down. And it was maybe a series later that Herbstsree was like, just feels different since the scramble.

Just feels like he's playing with more confidence. Yeah. And he was. I mean, it just felt like he was more comfortable. He was ripping it. We talked about how often we talked about he's not trusting his tight ends. All of a sudden,

he's getting the ball to his tight ends and these guys are making plays for. You know what I saw tonight? I saw a quarterback that has accepted the role that I've got to carry this team, but is not pressing in that role. That was the difference to me. Right. I get it. We're not going to be able to run the football.

we don't you know, Fraser's not going to put up big numbers. This defensive front for Tennessee is phenomenal. I'm going to have to carry this team, but I'm not going to press. And so he was going through his progressions. He was tucking the ball and running. I thought early, it was the last play of the first quarter and then the first drive, it carried over to the second quarter. That was the turning point for me in this game.

It was, there were three key plays. They were backed up. He had that big throw. There was a, it was a free play because of, Tennessee was off side of defense. He connects with Love it, 38 yards. It's like, okay, now we're going, right? And then the Beck scramble on that same drive, right?

Big time run. Tried to, went through his progressions, pockets collapsing, tucks the ball, runs. And I think it was that the one or maybe it was a different one, where he kind of lunges and knocks, knocks the defensive back back. That was it. I was that one, yeah. So that run. And then the very next row, like you want to.

see an NFL throw, go watch his first touchdown pass. Okay. It was that first drive to second quarter. It was that touchdown pass to Delp, 19-yard strike. That's what we expected. Right. Carson Beck going through his reads, Herbie did a great job on this. It was, it was pause the, pause the play from the, from the sky cam, watch behind

back, watch what he's seeing. Pockets collapsing on him, not panicked. receiver has not even gotten over the clock top cleared the safety but the ball's going to a spot throw him open drilled it 19 yards right in the end zone touchdown from that point on you saw the confidence grow and the confidence in the tight ends grow and we talked right you just touched on it match the tight ends have been a disaster right about brock bowers and what he was think about all the talented tight ends the tight end room they had a couple years ago with three guys have wound up in the NFL. The tight ends have not been reliable. The tight ends have not been

difference makers. Tonight they were both. 10 catches. And it was mostly Delp and Eurassic, right? The Stanford, yeah, Eurassic, the Stanford transfer. But as a group, the tight ends, which have been a huge liability, 10 for 136 yards and two touchdowns. Yeah. I mean, they were making plays down the middle of the field. They were making plays outside. They were making, making runs after the catch. I mean, the Eurasica kid, I told you, I really liked him coming out of Stanford. And he did virtually nothing for the first six games in the season, first six games of the season. Made a couple catches started tonight. He goes out and has five catches for 50 yards, I think. And I'm like, this is the guy I was, I was waiting to see because again,

he's a dude that can produce after the catch. He's a talented guy. They have, the talent has not, is not, the production is not a reflection of the talent. The talent has been there. The trust and however that works out, are they running the wrong routes, whatever's going on, the trust between the quarterback and his tight ends just hasn't been there.

The man, when you see it tonight and you see it's working the way it's supposed to work, it's impressive. Carson Beck, man, like the guy I've seen the last two weeks, and I know last week was a loss against Ole Miss and it was ugly. You're like, McShay, what are you talking about?

Yeah, I thought you were a little generous, but, I mean, good for you, man. I saw, I saw him turn a corner. I saw, like, he's not pressing. He's not forcing throws. He's understanding the importance of protecting the football. He did it in that game. It was a loss, but he did everything he could with what he had to work with in that game.

And it wasn't much. Right. Tonight he did everything he could. He did, I mean, think about the drops he had. Yeah. Two drops early in the game. One could have been the huge play to start off the game. Now, of a sudden, it's second and ten.

Then a little bit later, the big drop in the first half to another one is Smith. The ball kind of hung up there a little bit. Defender came in and made a play at the end. But like in the NFL. You're a strong in quarterback. You want your guy to make a play for you. You know, like the NFL, like more often than not, that that's a catch. So I'm starting to see with Carson Beck what we were hoping to see in terms of the

progression from last year to this year. First year starter last year coming in year two, comfortable with the system. Yeah, there's new weapons, but, but he's the guy now. Yeah. And finally for two weeks, back to back weeks, he's the guy. And that's exciting, man. And it's not too late because you know what? Right.

Now we're making a run towards the playoffs. And now I might get, I might get, you know, two, three, four more games that I get to see. So believe it or not, we'd much rather talk about him playing well. We'd much rather talk about it's great for us, man. We're rooting for the kid. We, you know, it's, it's better for draft conversations. it's so you know it's been kind of tough to watch some struggle and so it's great to see a guy turning around it's yeah and hopefully it continues at this level so i mean and you know and there was

it was a discussion for a while and i know you watched the texas game today and it's not it's not about like we're not here an instant reaction and here these are our updated rankings and all that right but i am going to say this i've seen enough of quin newers i've seen enough of carson back and and for a vast majority of this season i was not seeing the carson back I was accustomed to seeing, and I wasn't seeing the Carson Beck. I was expecting to see in terms of growth. Now that I'm seeing that guy, Carson Beck is a better NFL prospect than Quinn Ewers. Yeah, I'll say, yeah, I'll say this about Quinn Ewers.

He's super talented. And I just keep waiting for him to have that game like he had against Alabama last year. And he just not, he hasn't been consistent. And he still has time too because of how good Texas is. But it feels like he's running out of runway. It feels like. And we'll get to Texas in a little bit. Yeah.

We don't need, and we have all week. We have all the rest of the season and all, you know, pre-draft and all of that. But I just want to make it clear, like when you're seeing the right version of Carson Beck and you're seeing Quinn Ewers and we have a lot more tape to go off of with Quinn Ewers because he's played a lot more games. It's true. So I know what Quinn is. He's a damn talented quarterback. And I think David Pollock put it best. Like, check out Quinn Ewers on the driving range.

Like, striping them. Yeah, like that second flight, and it looks beautiful. You know what I mean? But like, all right, now we're on the 18th pole. Right. Pressure's on. How's your short game? Yeah.

All the stuff, you know, like. Yeah. So it's fascinating to me. And like you look at the quarterback class. And again, this is about Georgia. This is about Tennessee. This is about the college football playoff push. But you look at this quarterback class and we keep talking about, you know,

Chodor Sanders is putting the best tape out there. and he's been the best pure passer in this class. And he still is. Like that doesn't change. And Cam Ward is the fastest riser of all these quarterbacks. He's had a phenomenal season carrying Miami and all the things that he's done. But like Carson Beck from an NFL perspective, making NFL throws, the mobility he brings, the size he has. He, he, this is a damn good time for him to turn it on.

Let's just put it that way. And we got a lot of time to unpack it. but he's going to make if he keeps playing like this and georgia goes on a run he's going to make things really interesting and i guess i'll leave it at that yeah which is great any uh let me ask you this any moral victories for tennessee tonight well let's go to the other side of the ball and i already told you what i loved about what tennessee did what i right what i expected more was was pressure and getting home yeah that was on that side of the ball offensively offensively offensive Offensively, man, it was fun to watch Nico in that first half, wasn't it?

Wasn't it? I mean, he's talented and he's starting to make plays with his feet. He spins the ball so well. And it's just, I'm excited to watch that kid develop. I mean, he played really well in the first half. And I thought there are flashes in the second half. And just watching him like, that's a moment out there. Yeah.

I don't care who's ranked higher. That's a, you're between the hedges prime time. Heart rate is up. That crowd, they've been lathered up 37 days since Georgia's had a home game. I know. I mean, that's wild. That is a buzz saw that you're walking into. And I would have more expected from a freshman quarterback and Nico that you had the bumps

and kind of the offensive struggles that they had in the second half in the first half. Right. He came out with like, no pulse, no problem. Yeah. Like this, I wrote down a. bunch of, like, he might not even play tonight. He was, you know, he was going to play. And we've kind of like tongue in cheek about the overthrowes early.

And I said, just coming out, we've watched every tape. And he, like, every game, there's at least one and sometimes two or three overthrows on the deep, on the deep shots. And early in the game. And I said on Thursday, when we, we talked previewed this game, I said, if, if I'm, if I'm, if I'm hypole, just like, let's get it out of the way. But first point of the game was let's just drive it deep. Let's get it out of the way. Because we saw even against Mississippi State wide open, like seven yards as receiver,

threw him, not only threw him over through him, he threw the ball where even if the receiver, like, cut a jet pack and caught it. He was out of bounds by two yards. Right. But this one, I literally am sitting there almost with a smirk on my face,

like the first attempt, down the right rail, deep shot, right? Yeah. And I'm like, there it is hype on the let's get it out of his system and then all of a sudden

I'm like wait shit you didn't know you didn't overshoot it yeah and what happens like hey Nico I told you under throw it a little bit yeah

see what happens right because you know what like only good things happen almost only good things happen almost yeah and yeah and it's either I mean you get one of three options the receiver comes back can get it and go go

and you know head top them. Yeah. Or there's a pass interference or very likely there's an incompletion. Ball gets batted down. But your receiver's in position to knock down a ball and it's on an intersection, right? The overthrow is there's one result incomplete.

Yeah. And so they got that out of the way. And instead of it being an overthrow incomplete, it's a PI. And now we get, all right, here we go, 15 yards. Offenses rolling. So I love that conceptually. and just the po- I wrote in my notes poise early, balls out on time, trusting his reads and letting it rip. Yeah.

You can see like sometimes when you, you can see when the ball comes out of his hand, you can tell whether he believes in his throw, whether he has conviction in his throw. Yeah. Or if he's kind of hoping. Right. Right. Throw early on, even the incompletions, there was conviction in those throws. I loved watching him in the first half. I thought Tennessee as a team

believe they could win this game, believe they were going to win this game, and handle themselves with poise. And really at the most critical point in the game, fourth and two, they jump. The noise gets to them, the movement gets to them,

and they jump. They have the pre-snap penalty on the left tackle, fourth and seven, they have to punt it, and then Georgia scores and the game's over. So there was a lot to like about it, but one of the most critical points in the game, I felt like the atmosphere did get to them.

So. Yeah. It was definitely, I mean, and give a lot of credit to Georgia defensive staff. Because He people came in with a great plan. He really did. Dylan's 106 yards. Yeah. The balance.

I was just going to say the balance, the 27-yard touchdown run before half, making it 17, 14. Georgia then comes to have like a minute 50 left. They drive down, kick a field goal, all nodded at 17 at the half. Right. But the balance. they had with Nico throwing the ball, Nico scrambling and creating a little bit,

and then Dylan Sampson, who's been the star offensively for 10. Yeah. He's been there rock the whole year. We talked about over 1,000 yards rushing coming into this game. He had a really, he had a great first half. And even like into the fourth quarter, I heard Fowler talking about like it was,

I forget of 164, 146 yards rushing, 146 or 164 yards passing. identical. It was like identical. Yeah. Yeah. So the balance that they wanted to establish was there. Everything they dialed up was, it felt like gold. It felt like there was purpose behind it. They knew exactly what they were executing offensively. Like they played great in the first half. They go in a half time and it's 1717. It's like there's something like demoralizing or defeating about. We just threw our best punch. Right. And that mother bleeper is still standing.

Yeah. You got to. learn from that. If they can learn from that, it's going to be interesting going forward. Because the teams, I mean, the talent is there. The coaching is there. The coaching is there. Hyping coach, man. Yeah. If you're the rankings, you're the rankings committee, I mean, this team's got to be in. I mean, you're thinking to yourself. Oh, yeah. Right. I mean, the Arkansas I lost early in the season. You may be like, I wonder what's going to happen when they get to Athens.

You wonder what's, and I know it was a 14 point game and I know you can give me a hard time because of the spread and all that. But this game was tight. I mean, this was a, it was Tennessee had a shot to win this game. No question.

Yeah. But Georgia like, took care business, man. Second half. And it's like, it's got to be maddening for hype because you come in with the like, damn near perfect game plan, right? Yeah.

Everything's rolling. You've played, you've played Kirby now three times. 13 points is what you've averaged in those three games. And when you, we talked about this on Thursday, when you had Hendon Hooker and you had Jaylin and you were rolling and you were averaging 49 points per game in every other game you played outside of Georgia. And Georgia held you to 13 points in that game. And so you come out and you're like, here we go, 10 nothing, right?

Right. Take your 13. We're going to hang 40 on them. Yeah. Yeah. And we're going to do it in their house. Right. Like I just got to be like, yeah, we're doing it in their house too.

Right. And you wind up with 17. Yeah. You're up 10-0 early and you finish with just 17. You talk about defense, like Kirby, that guy never ceases to amaze me, you know? Yeah, all the guys we talk on defense too, you know, don't talk. You did talk about Chad's Chamblis this week. Yep.

He had a monster game. And he had a big game. And he had a big sack early. The other linebacker, smile, Smile Mundin, every time I throw him on. He's banged up a little bit this year. Every time I watch the tape, he's doing something, man. He can rush the quarterback, he can make plays in coverage, he's good against the run. I feel like, you know, I always hate saying underrated because by who?

Teams probably aren't underrating him. But, I mean, he's maybe a player that doesn't get enough recognition considering all the other dudes on that defense. But man, he had a, he had a eight tackles, seven solo tonight, a sack, a pass deflection. I mean, he hit a big game too, man. He really did. And then at the end, like, I didn't think, again, I got to go back and watch the tape, but I didn't think Mikel William,

like I didn't remember hearing his name a lot. Kind of quiet. Jelon Walker, I heard his name on, you know, several times throughout the broadcasts, had made some plays, was like around the ball, doing typical Walker stuff. But Williams was kind of, seemed like it was kind of quiet,

but man, when they needed that, at the end to put that game away. Yeah, he was, punched it out. Yeah. You know, didn't even need to at that point because it was fourth down. But yeah, it's just a fun game. Like, I felt like both teams played great, you know. It did not disappoint.

It didn't disappoint. And that's not always the case when you have games like this, as we saw last week with Alabama and Alabama and LSU. Right. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like that that's about it. it, right? Like that...

Yeah. And then this is going on and we're watching, we're peaking at Oregon, Wisconsin and saying what is happening in Madison, Wisconsin right now. I'll say this. And this is good. Yeah, you're right. Good time to transition to Oregon, Wisconsin. And we got a handful of other things to get to. We're not going to go as in depth. We just want to almost a half hour on that. And I think it's well deserved. And I do think we need to get to some of the ranking stuff in a minute. And I think we'll circle back when we get to some other SEC teams. But Oregon, again, I was watching more Georgia, Tennessee.

I truly was. I watched a little bit because Oregon kicked off earlier, so I got to stuff. But from what I saw, and I said in the second half, like now it's like, oh, now I'm on the remote back and forth. You know, I got to make sure I'm watching both. Split screen and all that. Luke Fickle, this was his masterpiece.

Yeah. This was like Wisconsin. was flying around and playing physical. Yeah. Ohio State couldn't do this to him to Oregon. Ohio State didn't frustrate Dylan Gabriel like they did. And I give Oregon a lot. Like the tackling was master.

You don't see that kind of master class tackling in college football. Right. And to be as disciplined as they were, like Wisconsin just played a great game. It was a, but they don't have. the offense to pull it off. But like, you better be, I mean, I promise to this, everyone, every future opponent for Oregon, especially as we get in the playoff. Just watching that tape.

Ohio State getting ready for the Big Ten championship. Or what they do that nobody else has been able to do. Yeah. That's a tough place to play, too, though. I mean, that's, you, it's different. You can say you're ready for that. And I, you know, Oregon's played some big games already. But that is a, that, you know, they played at home against Ohio State, at home

against Boise State, I think. Yep. Maybe they're, you know, they go into that atmosphere and it's a tough place to play. And they, you know, listen, if we said about, you know, in the NFL, they played at home. Yep. Yeah. It's, you know, we say in the NFL, those guys get paid too. Well, Wisconsin plays in the Big Ten, too.

That's a, you know, they may not be an elite team right now, but that's a good football team that's going to play hard. So, they got, I mean, if you're, if you're number one in the country, you're going to get the best punch. Yeah. I was hard on your back. There was one, there was one series that I saw that I thought was awesome. like you talk about back against the wall and i get it like they lose they're still in they're

still you know they're still going to play like they're probably actually i don't even know how it would have worked in the big 10 because indiana undefeated so so maybe they're uh but but like the it's not all collapsing if they lose tonight it gets more complicated and in in all that but Dylan Gabriel, fourth and nine, right? First play of the fourth quarter. They come back, fourth and nine, and Lannig decides, let's go.

We're going for it. Could have kicked a long field goal, but they decided to go for it because they were down, they were down seven. And this throw was awesome. He's a lefty, so it's like a righty roll and who was right.

But Dylan Gabriel rolls to his left, Ferguson, the tight end. Yeah. like, it's like between me and you see my mic here. Like, that's how much space. Right. Like, all sprint to his left throws it, not across his body, but like it's come, it's got to come back into the field of play a little bit.

Right. It's like right. Yep. Ferguson had a little slide down for it a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So convert the fourth down.

And then I think it was one or like two or three plays later, Jordan James has the touchdown to the right side. And that tied it up at 13. Good thing that Jordan James, man. That kid. I love him. We've talked about, we talk about them all the time. Yeah.

But he deserved it. Again, a lot of teams escaped today. That was one of, that was one of the near misses. You hear near misses with airplanes. You don't ever want to hear about your plane having a near miss. That was a near miss. The Ducks miss Ted Johnson. Both my parents worked for the airlines.

So that's like, it's fine. It's ingrained. Yeah, I'm allowed to. I'm allowed to make those jokes. The Ducks miss Ted Johnson, I'll say that. I want to watch the tape, but I feel pretty comfortable saying that they have a lot of weapons, and I get it. And Gabriel's playing great. But Tez is their difference maker, I think.

He's the alpha. So I think when he's not there, it's a different offense. All right. Let's go to what wasn't a near miss. What was not an escape. Man, LSU. Take a turn for the negative here. Yeah.

I mean, we got to get to it. I mean, it was one of the biggest stories of the day. maybe the second biggest story of the day. I want to, like, and I don't want to do a detailed breakdown of this game. Like, you know, LSU is now six and four. They've lost three straight games. I think it's important for people to understand.

It was not a long shot. Despite losing three games coming into this. Right. Two losses in the, in the SEC. We've talked a lot about it because we've come on live we came on live after their game against Texas A&M. Yep. And the first half of that game against Texas A&M, they looked like they were in maybe like, maybe,

maybe we overlooked LSU. Maybe they're in that like upper right. Right. Maybe not the elite elite, but they might be right there in that like second tier because they look damn good in that first half. And then we talked about a hundred times. Nuss Meyer rolling to his left, throws the ball up for grabs, bad, bad mistake, bad turnover. not game changing until Marcel Reed comes in, runs all over them, three touchdowns and like 12

plays. And from that point, they haven't recovered, man. Right. This team is splintered. Yeah. And so I want people to understand coming into Florida, I get it, you're going in the swamp. And more importantly, I get the opposite part of it. Florida just got worked against Texas. That was ugly. Right. So you- And Florida has been depleted. They've been back. battling, you know, they've had injuries a quarterback. This is a team that's, you know, you could say disappointing, but they've almost overachieved with everything they've had to go through this year. But yeah, sorry.

And I, and, and, and, Billy Napier are like hats off, man. Right. To keep a team together the way he has. And for the, you know, the president of the university, whoever came out and made the comments about, you know, I still believe it because I went to practice. It's pretty good now. Yeah. Saw how hard these guys are still playing and how committed they are.

Like, good for. good for the university, good for Billy Napier especially. Because he like, I've gotten to know Billy over the years. Like it's hard not to root for that guy. Right. And his staff, like they grind, they work. They try to do it the right way. They're good, you know, they're good people who are grinding and know what they're doing.

It just, it hasn't all come together yet. But unfortunately, it's that should be the story. We should be celebrated. It's not the story. The story is what the has happened to LSU. right right yeah because like my in my initial point was it was not like nine different losses and this has to happen and that had like the there was a very clear path the tiebreaker was almost in their favor to to get in and so they had everything on the line today yeah and they didn't

come up like seven turnovers in three games is a stat I wrote down but six of those turnovers were in, um, were in the previous two games. So it wasn't like they were just like, you know, bungling the ball all over the place. Right. And the effort was I didn't never, I wasn't watching him and being like, oh, they, they mailed it in. They don't care. Oh, no, no, no, no. They took Florida too lightly. I didn't see that either. But here's what I saw, bud. I saw a team splintering in front of my eyes on national television. And that's scary. Yeah, it's not funny watch. I saw Brian Kelly scream at Hilton number three on the sideline,

and you didn't need a lip reader to hear him say, you're not coachable. Right. Do you think you are? Yeah. That's not happening when things are okay or things are normal and things. It's just a competitive, competitive environment. We all saw at the end of the game, Lacey come over and just ripping Brian Kelly.

And Brian Kelly trying to explain, but that wasn't the read. It should have got it. That doesn't happen. That's not happening with Nick Saban. That's not happening with Kirby. You know what I mean? And, you know I love Brian. And I defend him to people who don't like him.

I like Brian Kelly. Yeah. I've gotten to know him. I respect him. I don't, you know, some of the yelling and the antics in the old days and all that, I wasn't a huge fan of. But I respect what he is as a coach. I truly do.

Yeah. But this, that looked ugly. And it looked like, and I'll leave it with this. there were a lot of just mental errors and mistake. It wasn't a lack of effort, but it just seemed like, Swanson doesn't play, the edge rusher doesn't play in the first quarter because the disciplinary issues. Like you start adding all these pieces up.

And it tells you a story that they don't have to come out and say in a press conference, right? Yeah, what's going on here? What's going on in the locker room? And then, I mean, you talk about the execution. They, their run defense hasn't been bad overall. but they just get, they had the Texas A&M kid, Marcel Reed, come in and just gash him. Last week, it's Jaylon Miller. This week you're thinking, well, maybe they'll get it.

And when it matters most, the season is on the line. They give up a 55-yard touchdown run because guys are taking bad angles, guys aren't getting off blocks, guys aren't in the right spot. Guys, you know, it's just you give up a 55-yard touchdown run when your season is on the line. And then the other thing is, I think they had seven sacks today. I think they gave up seven sacks today. Yeah. Offensive line that's supposed to be his strength.

You can't run the football. There's no balance. A quarterback who's wonderful. Nussmeyer's wonderful and I love his talent. I can't wait to see him come back next year and continue to develop. I'm assuming that's the road it'll go. But he's not a runner and he doesn't choose to run even sometimes when he should. So it's kind of a sitting duck type situation.

And by not running the, you're throwing the ball a lot. Right. I mean, your quarterback's getting a concussion test on the sideline with the cameras on him. I mean, that was like, it was just kind of, it's just scary. You know, it's kind of emblematic. The whole game is kind of icky, right? Right. It was, yeah.

Right. I guess that's it. Like receivers yelling at the head coach, head coach saying you're not coachable. Who do you think you are? The damn broke. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, the damn broke today. And it was hard to watch.

And so I guess, and so if nothing else, that that eliminates LSU from this, from this whole situation. And we'll get to Texas in a second, but you look at it. I think we have the SEC standings if you want to want to pull it up. Like the SEC, when you think it's kind of working itself out, it's still an absolute mess. And to be honest with you, Georgia winning makes it even more complicated and makes it even more. Yeah. Yeah.

So like, you have a two lost Tennessee team instead of a one lost Tennessee team. Yeah. So Texas is five and one. A&M is five and one. The beauty is unlike a lot of these teams who don't have much SEC play left. Yeah. They're playing in the last week.

Right. How good is that, man? That's great. It's great. You got to earn it. That's an elimination game from the, from the SEC championship. And then Georgia's now six and two. And I will double check all this stuff.

but this is what I wrote down. Yeah. Georgia's six and two. I got it. Tennessee's five and two. Alabama's four and two. Ole Miss is four and two. I think Vandy only has two losses.

Vandy's three and three. Okay. And South Carolina's got three losses. In South Carolina, we'll get to them in a little bit. South Carolina didn't have their best showing today. But South Carolina would be favored over a lot of a handful of teams that might get into this thing.

Yeah. But look at those standings right now. Texas and A&M, and we'll sort some things out. But Georgia, 6 and 2, Tennessee, 5, and 2, Bama 4 and 2, Ole Miss 4 and 2. Wow. And you know what's interesting now,

so Georgia lost to Alabama and Ole Miss, right? Right. Georgia lost to Alabama and Ole Miss. And so they were sitting at 12 this week, but they were left out of the playoff because if the conference winner, the fifth conference winner would be Boise State is not in the top 12, they knock out the 12th seed and go play that 12-5 matchup that we talked about

against Ohio State. So Georgia was on the outside looking in. Won't be the case this week, but it's almost like they have to move up in a, like in a pack. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah, yeah. With Alabama moving up,

Ole Miss moving up and Georgia right behind those two because they lost to them. But then Tennessee now moves back into the, into that pack and Tennessee beat Alabama, right? Yeah. But Georgia beat Tennessee, so it's a mess. I don't want. I don't get it. You figure it out

because my head spinning. I will say this, man. Georgia lost to Alabama by seven at Alabama. They beat Texas by 15 at Texas. Right. And then lost, I mean, the loss to Ole Miss is the one, they're like, okay. You know, they lost by 18.

They kind of got it handed to them a little in that game. But their schedule is ridiculous. If people are like, how would you, you know, if they even lost tonight, how would you take a Georgia, a Georgia team with three losses? Say they'd lose in the SEC championship game. How would you take a Georgia team with three losses and put them over some of the other teams? I mean, it's easy. I mean, look what they've had to do compared to the other team. I mean, look at their strength. Especially coming off that game now, but it's amazing how it's amazing how one week gift. It's true. I mean, last week we're like Georgia, just it's not their year.

They don't have receivers. I had 10 to see this game, man. I really, I thought, you know, I've seen it on tape, man. I've seen it on tape. I know what's happening. I can see it coming. But yeah, I mean, I just hope Banduel has enough money to sponsor our show next week after what we did. All right.

I mean, it's going to be wild. I would not want to be the committee this week. I'm trying to spoke through all that. Yeah. I'm going to be very interested in what they do. Because the thing is, like, yeah, it's not the last rankings. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. But it's not the last rankings, but it sets a precedent with those.

And I just talked about those four teams right there, right? Right. With Ole Miss, Alabama, Tennessee, and Georgia. It sets a precedent for, okay, if we, when we rank them this way, if they don't have a, like, Georgia's remaining schedule is UMass and Georgia Tech. So you can't make a. shift off of that, right? No. Tennessee's remaining schedule is

U-TEP and Vandy. So unless there's a trip up against Vandy, I don't know. Yeah. I don't either. Like, what do you do with BYU? And how many teams were on that graphic? Was it six? I'm sorry, we could pop it up.

One, two, three, four, five. A&M, if they lose to Texas, like they don't deserve to be in the playoff, I would say. I agree. Okay? But other than that, man, the SEC better have five teams in this thing. That's all I'm going to say. And I said that a while ago.

I said that like two weeks ago and I still stand by it. We keep going back to it. Is the goal to have the best teams in there or is the goal to have the best story of a season or the, you know, the underdog that kind of had a great year and was unexpected or you know to me it's to get the best teams in and if you're watching these games i think any an unbiased person would say that you have to have old miss you have to have tennessee you have to have alabama you have to have georgia i don't know the fifth i'm missing right now but it's it you can mark make an argument for more than five you know what's interesting but while we're just doing this i while i sit here well i've stole money

from Fanduil and told everyone that I knew to go to take money for like a dog with a bone right now. I know I am easy money on the on the same game parlay um Georgia in the under I also I'm texting them like non-stop right can you give me this they actually call it Todd's odds now like this hypothetical crazy I love it shit that comes up in my brain and I it's like it'll be like Wednesday at 8 a.m. And I'm like, hey, can we get the so I was on a heater this morning. I don't know if you saw on X, Twitter. I was just looking at the landscape. I'm like, South Carolina is like the sixth or seventh team in the SEC.

And like, there's not a real good clear path. I think they have like a 9% chance based off or whatever of finding their way into the college football playoff. But I was interested to see. So I gave them a list of teams. Who would be favored neutral site? And again, this is not me arguing for South Carolina to be in. Right. And quite honestly, if you want to make a strong argument to get in South Carolina,

you got to blow the doors off of Missouri today. And that didn't happen. It was a great game and all that. Don't even give me started. Missouri scored 24 second half points. But stick with my point here, talking about how deep and strong the SEC is. That's the point. We're talking about Texas.

Yes, that's the point. Texas, A&M, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, Ole Miss. behind all of them is South Carolina. Right. And we're not even talking about them in the playoff. But I asked, I asked Fandul, I said, what would, on a neutral, neutral site, give me some of these teams and give me the spreads in this game. South Carolina versus Indiana.

What would your guest be mentioned? Did you see this? You saw these. I did. I can't remember though. Go ahead. Just go ahead and say it. Okay.

Indiana would be minus three and a half. That's undefeated Indiana. who hasn't played anybody, but has to say five. Everybody out, only three and a half. BYU, right now on track to go play is the, the Big 12 champion, but they've got to play Colorado now. I think Colorado has made it very clear. We'll get to Colorado in a second.

But BYU right now was the four seed, and I think was ranked sixth in the last rankings. They were ranked. I'll find it right now. Go ahead. BYU ranked in the top eight. whatever it is. Sixth. Six. So the six team in the committee's rankings, head to head with the seventh team in the SEC, South Carolina.

South Carolina minus five. Not pick them, not minus three, minus five. Boise State, who's probably going to be the 12th seat that's going to get and play that Ohio State team. If that's how the brackets, we're not allowed to call brackets, apparently, but I don't work for somebody else anymore. So I can call, we can call them whatever we want on this show. The 12 versus 5 could be Boise State. South Carolina favored by five and a half, neutral site against Boise. Yeah.

The one team I was interested in this one, Notre Dame. This is the biggest spread against South Carolina. Notre Dame would be favored by seven. I could tell you this. If that game were to happen, I would steal more money from you. Give me the points to South Carolina. But Notre Dame was the biggest favorite of all these. That's interesting, man, because I feel like this week you were kind of coming around on Notre Dame.

And they might have sneaky good, man. I am, but I'm not giving seven against South Carolina. Okay. Miami was minus three against South Carolina. And SMU, which will play Miami, it looks like right now, barring it, crazy happening because, because remember, Clemson did win today. They escaped against Pitt, Clubnik with a 50-yard touchdown run to save the day. Right.

After the offense ran for like, McDonald was awesome in that game. Did you watch any of that? I didn't watch it. freaking mind yelling at refs. It was the best thing. I missed it. And it's so on point with the clock management. I travel with Sean for like six years. I always said if I wind up getting a GM job going in the NFL, I'm like one of my first

hires is going to be you with clock management. He's fanatical. So he's yelling about all this stuff. But anyway, so Clemson pulls off that win. And so you sit there and you sit there and you're, look and Clemson was on a run, they lost to Louisville. Well, that Louisville game is going to wind up being the thing that keeps them out. Because SMU beat Louisville head to head.

Clemson lost to Louisville head to head. And so now it looks like it's going to be Miami versus SMU in the, in the ACCC championship. Who lost the Stanford today. But if SMU were to win that game against Miami and going, and they'd be the three seed in the tournament, The three seed is the ACC champion. Yeah. It would be pick them against South Carolina. Right.

So I guess that's my point. For whatever it's worth, I mean, we're not the only ones you feel this way. Yeah. So if you think it's crazy to have five in the SEC, I'm giving you the seventh best team right now by the standings and rankings and all that. And by the way, South Carolina, just so you understand, they lost it. There are three losses. And the LSU game was before that. was a splintered program, okay?

They lost to Alabama, LSU, and Ole Miss. Three of the top 10 teams in college football. And the Alabama and LSU games were by a combined five points. So I'm not out of my mind sitting here talking. Why is McShay at almost one in the morning talking about South Carolina, who barely beat Missouri today and going up and down the, it's a greater point on that's how deep and strong this SEC is. That's it.

Right. All right. moving on one last thing in in the SEC i wanted to get to texas 2010 over arkansas watch a bunch of that we touched on quin yuers i thought his his performance today was me me me yeah i thought they came out they were aggressive early on i want you to understand this mensch no turnovers but when i watched this game i was expecting we were going to see and and yes against florida they they ripped them apart good tape you know you was played well nothing nothing crazy had a couple of few couple of deep throws in that game deeper throws a lot better than the week before i forget the tape we watched

the week before where vandy i think yeah yeah bandy and it was just checked down charlie screen game almost everything was within five yards of the line of scrimmage get to the buy a little bit better against florida you get to the buy a little bit better against florida in terms of just watching his tape i'm talking about yeah offensively they they you know just They ran it on Florida, and Florida played really well today. But I'm going into this game, and Arkansas has the worst past defense in the SEC. So I'm expecting that this is a good opportunity. Getting close to the playoff.

Hey, we just talked about A&M is looming. Okay. Then we get the SEC championship game. Now we're in the playoffs. It's time to kind of ramp things up because I told you, Sark's been protecting his guy and kind of bringing him back in. and had the injury. I just, I did. And this is not on Uers per se.

And I'll let you touch on yours because I know you watched the game. But I'm watching and I'm wondering, like the defense is phenomenal. The defense is awesome for Texas. Yeah. The defense, like they shut it down. Arkansas scored 10 points. And that quarterback's pretty good. The Boise State transfer.

They put up some big numbers. That 95, Alfred Collins, we got to do this. Talk about fast. This defensive tackle class is all of a sudden real interesting, man. So, but the offense, now I'm looking around and I'm like, yeah, I got it. Jaden Blue is super fast at running back and explosive play waiting to happen. Isaiah Bond, super fast. He's probably according to like the, according to the miles per hour, the tracker and all that, the GPS.

People think that he could run the fastest 40 at the combine. Got it. Gunner Helm, reliable, consistent has emerged, like really good player. Got it. But I don't see the consistency or like the fear factor in this offense. Do you? No, no. I mean, I told you.

What have you seen? I was watching, I mean, we'll just kind of start with yours or stick with yours for a minute here. I told you I was flipping between the Colorado game and the Texas game. And I'm seeing Quinn yours kind of, it seems like he's holding on to the ball. too long. It seems like he's not confident in what his reads are. Just feel like he's not seeing it. He's not trusting it. He's not seeing it. And then he'll scramble and he'll, you know, break a tackle and make a great throw that his receiver drops, but nothing's on schedule. Nothing's in rhythm. It just feels off.

And then I flip over to Colorado and the touchdown to pass, the Chidor Sanders throws to the kid Miller and Miller had a great run after the catch. Don't get me wrong. But it's, he's got six guys walked up on the line of scrimmage. At the snap of the ball, it's drop eight. So all of a sudden, you think six are coming, it's three. And all he does is hit the back foot, lofted over, just great touch throw over the linebacker in front of the corner and safety. And we're in business where we've got a touchdown.

It looks, he was making it look effortless where everything I'm watching with Texas feels like the effort. It's just, it takes it so taxing for them just to get their off. going when they have all this talent it's just not jelling it's not clicking and it's strange because i think i think sark is uh you know a genius couldn't respect them more right i mean what like it's it's it's so it's it's i don't know if i have a good answer to be honest with you because the talent's there sometimes that's okay right like right i mean i just don't because i'm not sure they do yeah i mean if they if they if they're not fixing it how am i going to fix it to be honest with you but um but i'm watching it and i'm like

i see the talent they make plays even today yours just made this like crazy throw after he broke a set like broke out of a would be sack and it's like wow that's just impressive but if you had just thrown to your first read or if you had thrown to your second read you're not in that situation it's like he's making his life more difficult than it has to be and i'm not inside of his head maybe he's not feeling that way but it looks like to me he's not as confident in his reason just letting it rip he had an early shot early deep shot he took and missed on that And I, but I, I don't know, I felt like, because remember, I come into this game and I'm thinking, all right, the worst past defense in the SEC, this is a get right.

Here we go. Here we go. Yeah. Take a deep shot early, had the receiver, just missed it. No problem. Yeah. And then I think they took like one or two more, but the vast majority of the rest of the game. I just feel like I keep getting the same, I don't want to say PR spin, but it.

It's almost like every game we come out of, except for Florida, because Florida, they ran it all. They, they, you know, it was a freight train against a broken Florida team at that time. But even in that game, it wasn't like a lot of like downfield precision throws. It was stuff that Sark had schemed open. Yeah, right. Against the defense that was over well. Verses and, you know, rollback and all these plays.

Yeah. Yes. And I just, I thought that, okay. that's fine. So they got two high safeties. And Kuiper's pissed at home because he wants to ban the two high safety. Like I get. And I feel like it's the same message.

And maybe every defense is doing the same thing. So they're just forced schematically, like scheme wise. But this was a tight game, you know? Like, yeah. This wasn't one of those games where it's like, Vandy. We got this, but let's just get out of here on the skate, you know? No. I don't know.

It just, it first, go ahead. Does this feel a little like deja vu? Tell me if I'm off. Does this season for yours feel a little bit like Levis last year for Kentucky? Remember what he went into the Tennessee game last year? And everyone was throwing the ball around on Tennessee. I think it was Tennessee. And he just had a terrible game.

And you just kept waiting for Will Levis because you knew he had the talent. Two years ago, you mean? It was two years ago. Sorry, two years ago. You just kept waiting for him. Yeah, two years ago. Sorry. Yeah, I had the time for that monster game.

Yeah, I was on the field for that. came together for him, right? And it was all the injuries and it was all this. And yours has been banged up a little bit this year. And I know they're different players, but it just kind of feels like a little bit, a little bit like deja vu for me. Okay.

Yeah, I just, honestly, like, I'm not, people at Texas are probably, what the hell are you talking about? You know, we're, we got one loss. We're in great shape. The defense is sick. The defense is phenomenal.

I just, their corner. I keep waiting for like that next, that next step and for them to be like, all right, we're real. Like I said two weeks ago, like we've got to see something different, Carson Beck. We saw it in the loss. He's like he's come. I want to see that next progression in yours.

And I'm excited to see it when it happens. I really am. But right now I just wonder, okay, it's A&M. It's SEC championship. We're in the playoffs. What is the actual, I guess that's my question. And I don't have an answer. And it sounds like you don't either.

How would we, like you said? what is the actual product when we're in the biggest games with the brightest lights, and losing your out type situation? What's the product going to be on offense? I'm just, I'm curious to see because I don't think you know right now. In fairness, we, I didn't see Georgia doing what they did tonight.

So, you know, maybe the offensive line comes together at the right time and, and everything comes together. But it hasn't been very encouraging up to now. Yeah. A couple more things I want to get to. Oh, go ahead.

Okay, go ahead. I was just going to say the corner Jaday Barron. Oh, he was great today. I forgot to bring him up. He is. He does everything, man. So he plays on the outside. Do you know, he plays a blitz?

And then they bring him in on third down. They kind of move him in the middle of field. And I'm like, man, if I'm an office coordinator or a quarterback coach, I'm like, know where seven is. Yes. I don't care about anything. Third and third and long walk up and identify where seven is because he's going to do something that's going to impact his play, whether it's he's blitzing,

whether he's making a play. like playing that kind of that robber coverage what he can do so many different things he's not that big of a kid he's like he's like he's like a skilled robber like a thief you know this is what i was thinking about every every chaff pass you like you bring up guys and you're like oh he's just a good football player man you know and you're like i know he plays quarterback but he's just a good football he's in line of good football that that's what jod a baron is man loves the content you get the feeling it loves the grind loves the physicality of the game loves to be around it The mental part, like, oh, he's so, yeah.

Aalyn Petrie was like that. He always, yes, he was like 5.11, 190, like, wet with. Why are you? Right. But he was always around the line and always like getting in the back. Tackles for loss, getting under. Well, with Barron today, it was, it was an awesome plate. They bring him up.

And like a lot of times as a quarterback, you see, all right, yeah, he's brought up. We got to account for him. But I can already see him starting to drop, you know, like, and he's a corner. So he pulled the take a step back and then shot through the A gap and uncontested. The offensive line didn't even try to pick him up. And he winds up with the sack on that play. So it's like little mental games. Yeah.

Guys that you can tell her taking it to the next level. Yeah, Barron's a dude. Yeah, he's fun to watch, man. He is fun to watch. I think he loves the, I think he likes, loves playing the game the way he plays it. You want to talk about another freaking phenomenal football player? Tyler Warren. Tyler Warren.

I know it was a blowout. I know. we don't have to take more than 30 seconds on this. But like, you're not going to be our tight end one and have another performance. Remember 17 catches against USC? Yeah. They're like, how can he, how can he beat that? Well, at one point I saw a graphic on today.

And again, it's Purdue. I get it. But like, I don't care who he's doing it against. There were like 17 snaps as a tight end. No, 19 snaps at like traditional tight end or offset tight end, nub tight end. 17 snaps at wide receiver, six at running back, four at quarterback. Yeah.

And he finished it. So he, first two drives of the game, he had six catches for 81 yards and a touchdown. I don't care who they're playing. Right. It's like 265 pounds, by the way. Yes.

He finished the game with, listen to this, eight for 127 and one touchdown. touchdown in the passing as a receiver. Eight catches 127.1. Carried the ball three times for 63 yards and another touchdown. That's 190 yards from script. He's a tight at.

What are we talking about? Yeah. My buddy, Chris, my buddy Chris went to Penn State. He is still mad that he didn't get a goal on carry against Ohio State on that last time. I mean, he is just. So he's 260, but my buddy Chris is heated that that that, to this day that that didn't happen. When you have a player like that, how is he not,

and we said it at the time, you got to get a touch. But minimum two. If it's four downs, you know you're going for minimum two. Right. Yeah. Sorry to relive that Penn State fans.

One of the last things. Travis Hunter, should we just give it to him? Listen, you know what's funny? Today wasn't even his best game. I know, but like. awesome it's all about moments and and and and and and hitting like milestones or so you oh look at this this is awesome yeah the guy Daniel huh love the snap we got a good support cast here 500 590 snaps at receiver 76 catches 911 yards and nine touchdowns at receiver all right now the other side of

586 steps. Holy, like almost identical, almost identical. So it's not, this isn't something cute. This isn't Charles Woodson. This isn't Champ Bailey. No. This is like, this is something in the modern day, let's call the modern era of college football since we've been in college. Like late 90s, right? Okay.

Sure. And Chuck, Chuckie Woodson, Champ Bailey, they were late. I think, Champ Bailey back in, so Champ Bailey back in 1998, that's the last time we've seen a player with 40 plus receptions and three interceptions in that club. Champ Bailey back in 19. Yeah, he turned out right. Yeah, 26 years. Yeah.

Travis has done it twice. I know. Just three players. It's three times. Three times in 26 years. Yeah. And he's done it twice now. And it's outrageous what he's doing.

But why today? Well, I guess because he got that third interception. Yeah. Back in that milestone. Right. But that catch. Yeah. The catch that he made.

And yeah, the interception was cool. The interception was cool. He caught it. Third interception. Get back in the club of Champ Bailey, back in the club with yourself from a year ago, and return it for six and strike the pose. that's a moment,

but that catch that he made on offense when he, it was almost like he got caught and then he, like a cannon shot him up in the air and he was flailing and still had to hold on the ball as he came down and just popped right up like,

like, I mean, I don't know. There's nothing he can't do. There's nothing he can't do. He's special. Meanwhile, the crime is, hold on,

the crime is that Ashton Genty at Boise State is having. That was my meanwhile. He, he, listen, the meanwhile, for me was Boise State's undefeated, Ashton Genties carrying that team. He had 32 more carries for 159 more yards and three more touchdowns today. And well, yeah, just give it to Travis.

Yeah, he's like, what do I have to do? I do love how it's not the best quarterback on the best team this year. And that to me like, yeah, I was kind of out on the Heisman, not out. I have a vote. I take a great deal of pride in that. I am honored to have a vote. And I love that. I just love the pageantry.

I love the history of it. I watch every of course it does but I don't like when we get into a rut where it's the best quarterback on the all that and it and it ain't this year and it partly circumstance but mostly because we the top two guys in my opinion are a wide receiver cornerback and then a running back so it's it's it's it's like exciting this year to me yeah but now let's talk about Colorado real quick yeah go for it nice win pulled away best team in the in the big 12 I'm convinced I've watched more Colorado that I probably watch of any other school in the country, particularly the offense,

not the defense, but the offense because of, because of Shador. And I'm, and Travis, at receiver. Right. I'm convinced.

I am convinced. What's the score right now? We're on at 1244 AM Eastern Time in the Monon. BYU. BYU right now. 1310 over Kansas. Yeah. 1310, Kansas.

I might win that pool again this week, man. I told you what I, get on a heater ride me. It might take nine, ten weeks, but I'll get on one. But Kansas, so I'm looking at the remaining schedule for Colorado. I just like, don't mess it up. I've got to have Colorado in the Big 12 championship game. I've got to have Colorado in the playoff.

And I don't care if I'm accused of rooting. I am. I am rooting for it for, because I want to see, I told you. I want to cease the door for a great playoff for the attention and the hype and everything for draft, all of it. But for draft prep, like we talked about, we've got to cease your door in the college football playoff against that kind of, just like Cam Ward against that level of competition defensively. Right.

So, but that Kansas game scares me. I know you look at their record in Kansas coming into Utah game scare me today. Three and six. Yeah, but they're down to like their ninth quarterback. I know. That seems always tough. It's always well coached. You don't, if you take them lightly, I think that you could.

Utah can still be you. But they were, I mean, they handle them. It was 25 point win. There were two games on the schedule that, that scare, that were dead giveaways to pound the fan book, the fan duel book, right? Yeah.

And it was Georgia and I did. And I hope I made everyone who listens and watch this podcast every Tuesday and Thursday. She never listened to my gambling at this. Every Tuesday and Thursday. And that our live shows right after, right after the prime time game every Saturday night for the college football. football season. So we appreciate you downloading, subscribing, liking, all the things you do, tell a friend, because you know what's going to happen. If you're going to ride this heater at the

end of the year, you're going to be a rich human being. So I don't even know. I know. No, I'm just having fun. But Kansas was the other one. Because you know what, BYU, undefeated BYU, playing at home against a three, oh, what, hold on, I just had it. Kansas is three and six. Yeah. The part of that game was? No. BYU was minus two and a half, Minch.

Really? Yes, that's when something's that fishy, you've got to take Kansas. And now look at it, 1310. I'm not saying they're going to win, but like you got there,

somebody, it's the coach Corso. Somebody knows something and I'm going with somebody's, right? Yeah. But back to my point, I'm worried about

at Kansas next week for Colorado. Because that could, that could throw a wrench in, everything. But at Kansas, then Oklahoma State, and then the Big 12 championship, if they, if they win their final two games. And, oh, and by the way, our good friends, I hope they still are after tonight, are good friends at Fanduel. Also, this is another Todd's odds, hypothetical out of like, who knows what time. Oh, yeah. Colorado, BYU neutral site. What, what do you got, Mitch? What do you think? Colorado minus,

Five. You saw it. Did I see it? Yeah, you saw it. It's five. That's right. But Colorado, clearly, if Fanduel believes it and our I see it, Colorado is the best team in the Big 12. I agree. Anything else on your, on your mind? I got one last thing. I, you want a tight 45 minutes on on Beamer Ball today? Or should we just leave that for another day? Probably leave that for another day. I almost lost my mind during that. Give me. Give me, give me the, give me the, One thing. Two for five. You're up. I hope I have this right. My friend,

my friends out there, he's, he's referencing the Missouri South Carolina game. It should not have been close, but it was, they're on their own 37. South Carolina.

I'm going to have to play by play this for you. I honestly want to make sure that I've got this right. But this is how I remember. And if you're not, if you're not watching this, I want to, I want to let you know for the, the,

the, the audio folks out there, he looks, like he has a migraine right now. I just don't understand why he doesn't punt the ball. Like they lost their situation, Menge. If I'm right, it was fourth and one, their own

37, they're up in the two minutes left in the third quarter. I think they're up 15, but that doesn't sound right now. And they go for it and don't get it. Missouri goes in the scores. Why, you are Frank Beamer's son. How are you not punting the ball

there? That pissed you off. You even text me about that. Listen, that game, that game had no business being tight. 21-6 at half. I don't think it had, like, he's lucky that Lenora Sellers turned into Superman at the end of that game. Do you know how good Lenora Sellers was in that game? 353 yards, five touchdowns.

Sometimes the quarterback's going to save the coaches, you know? Speaking of coaches and speaking of things we're fired up about, let's leave on a really high note. You ready, Mench? I don't even know that you know. we're going to do this. You see this?

Early in the third quarter, but still, punt-able. Do you see that helmet behind me? Yes. Sorry, yes. Where are you from? What are you? A spider, whatever.

Spiders are homes. Richmond spiders, man. Congratulations. I want to give you a shout out on this show. Love what you're doing. We're watching you. We appreciate you. Always pulling for the spiders.

Richmond, with Winston October, as you mentioned, as the offensive coordinator, who we played with. The biggest calves in coaching right now. I've confirmed that. Have you ever seen a dude? Like, Winston wasn't the biggest dude of all time. But the calves,

the calves per body ratio on that dude. But his, he was a great punt return on the CFL. He was a great punt returner at Richmond. Yes. And then he was a heat-seeking missile on defense. That he was pound per pound, the toughest guy on our team probably.

That was the first time. But watching him hit, He wouldn't, he never, he still hasn't wrapped a player up in his life. He's watching his shoulder pad. I don't, he, targeting and launching and all that. I don't know how far of Winston's career went on in this, with this new. Anyway, so Richmond, they lost two games early on the season, Virginia and Wofford. They haven't lost a game since early September.

They've won eight straight with the win today over Hampton 2421. They win their second. straight CAA conference title and Saturday. I know we get some big games going on in the in the FBS. I know. But like you got to tune in. 135th edition of the Capital Cup next Saturday. William and Mary, let's go. Nice, Jay.

Winston, Richmond. We're here for you. Congratulations. Good thing. Win. Beat that tribe. All right. I think that's it for us tonight. We appreciate you.

It's always fun. I love this show. Yeah. It's, you know, I hope people start to. Hope it starts to catch on. People want to join us. We've got to do more questions and answers and get everyone involved with the show. We've got to be better about that.

We're just getting kind of our feet settled in. But next week, I'm going to put some emphasis on it. We're going to have to get more questions during the live chat, make it more interactive. Also, this week, we've got shows on Tuesday, as we talked about. We've got a show on Thursday as we talked about. Please send us some questions. I'm at McShay 13.

It's probably the best. let's send out a tweet on Monday from both of us. You're at Scouts Inc. Mench. Your fingers don't get tired typing it. Scouts, Inc. Mench. But let's get some questions and let's start to answer some questions about this past weekend. Looking forward to games this weekend, NFL draft questions. We'll send out a tweet on Monday to try to get everyone involved.

I think that's the one thing we've done a terrible job of that we're going to get better on moving forward. Mench, I love you, man. Love you too. All right. We'll see you on Tuesday. We'll see you on Tuesday. Must be 21 plus and present in select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino. Or 18 plus and present in D.C. Gambling problem?

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