The McShay Show - Sam Leavitt vs. Darian Mensah: Which QB Transfer Is the Better NFL Prospect?

Episode Date: July 6, 2026

Welcome back to The McShay Show! Today, the guys are continuing their Building the Board series with LSU QB Sam Leavitt and Miami QB Darian Mensah. Todd shares why he’s so high on Leavitt, and the g...uys discuss some of their favorite NFL comps for Mensah. To close, they rerack their 2027 QB boards with grades for each prospect.(00:00) Welcome to The McShay Show!(02:22) Building the Board: Sam Leavitt vs. Darian Mensah(04:06) Takeaways from the tape(19:31) Sam Leavitt's biggest strengths(27:20) Darian Mensah's biggest strengths(36:26) Offseason development needs(44:41) How will their game translate to the NFL?(51:49) Head-to-head gradesMake your rise with the MVP Bundle. Pre-order now.The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines.Host: Todd McShayGuest: Steve MuenchProducers: Tucker Tashjian, Conor Nevins, and Daniel ComerSocial: Abou Kamara Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's part four of building the board, the 2027 quarterback class. And today we're focusing on two high profile transfers, the day and age of NIL transfer portal. These are big time names, going to big time programs. We're talking about Sam Levitt from Arizona State to LSU and Darian Mensa from Duke to Miami. Just 297 days until the NFL draft. Mitch, you good? I'm good, man. Tucker roll the damn thing.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Bench, I'm fired up for today. I didn't think I was going to be as fired up as I am. Really? Mensa and Levin. I got some... I get caught up. I get caught up. You know me.
Starting point is 00:01:06 I just get worked up when I watch some of these quarterbacks and I see what it can be. This episode is presented by EA Sports College Football 27, where you can engineer your team the way you want. And if you want the full football experience, try the MVP bundle. I'm already getting pressure from the boys in this. this house. We got to get it. We got to get it, right? Well, I'm going to cave. You get college football
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Starting point is 00:02:14 If you're listening or watching, we appreciate it, but please please do the thing that everyone tells you to do on every podcast, because it does help. Mensa, going to Miami. We've seen Cam Ward and what it did for him, going from incarnate Word to Washington State to Miami, and all of a sudden from a third to fifth round prospect to the number one overall pick, right?
Starting point is 00:02:37 We saw last year Carson Beck a reclamation project from everything that happened at George. Georgia, he couldn't even throw months earlier before the season because of the elbow injury. And all of a sudden, you know, he winds up being, what, a third round draft pick? And quite frankly, like, reversed the field in terms of the public perception on him. And then you've got Lane Kiffin and all the hype and all the circumstances surrounding him exiting Ole Miss for LSU. but we also have Lane Kiffin, specific to this conversation, the development of many quarterbacks over his year, starting at USC, right?
Starting point is 00:03:21 And then Jackson Dart at Ole Miss, what he was early in his career to what he became as a first round draft pick, the Giants trading up for him. And what he did with Trinidad Chambliss is like the 246 ranked quarterback in the transfer portal and wasn't even supposed to be the state. starter and now we'll get to Chambliss, I believe, in our next episode on Thursday of building the board, right? And some scouts I've talked to are like, yep, could be a first rounder, could be a top 50
Starting point is 00:03:52 pick. This guy's got a chance to play in the NFL and we said that during the season last year. So Lane Kiffin with this kind of talent. So I want to get into all of it. And as we start all of these shows, mensch, I throw to you and say, you just grinded all the tape as did I. on both of these quarterbacks, Sam Leavitt and Darien Mentsa, what's your biggest takeaway? Well, you just laid the groundwork.
Starting point is 00:04:16 I mean, we have right now, Arch Manning is fourth on our quarterback rankings. And Brendan Swarstby's not playing college. He's not playing football at all this year. And I still think that Sam Levitt is one of the more fascinating storylines going into the college football season and into the draft cycle. Because look, it's like you said, expectations are sky high. in Baton Rouge. Lane Kiffin is a talented quarterback developer, and Sam Levitt is a talented quarterback. But here's the thing, watching the tape. Levitt didn't progress as I had hoped he would after watching him two years ago when he had Cam Scada but running crazy for him, just didn't see
Starting point is 00:04:54 the development that I wanted to see. He's coming off a foot injury that prevented him from participating in spring practice, which really, you know, hinders his ability to progress. And then on top of that, by the way, you got Clemson, you got a highly motivated, pissed off, Ole Miss team, and you got Texas A&N in September. It is, I think this is,
Starting point is 00:05:14 it could break either way for Levitt in LSU. And it's really based on what I saw from the tape from Levitt. This excites me. Because the first three parts of this series, I let you go first with your biggest takeaway. And I wound up saying like,
Starting point is 00:05:32 yeah, what he said. And it was anticlimactic, right? I went to bed last night after finishing up the Levit tape, and I had done MENSA the day earlier. And I thought, maybe I'll just go first tomorrow, because it feels like we're just copying each other. And enough is enough, Minch.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Right. Stealing my thunder. How dare you? Kidding, obviously. I saw it a little different. I do want to go two parts on my biggest takeaway. Okay. Because I don't, I, we're trying to lump all these quarterbacks together.
Starting point is 00:06:08 when we're doing the head-to-head and building this board over the course of the summer, right? And there's a reason for it. I think coming into the year, it was Arch versus Dante, right? And it turns out after we graded him, like Arch absolutely can be the number one overall pick, but maybe he isn't where Dante is now.
Starting point is 00:06:27 So that creates excitement for what Arch can become this year because we know all the talent is there, but Dante is at a different level right now. We both saw that. And then we, and I think sores, versus sellers. Super talented, still kind of raw. Sellers more advanced, but they're similar types of quarterbacks. Then we did these two Blue Blood Program guys who are both red shirt
Starting point is 00:06:52 sophomores, who both were expecting big growth, a lot of talent, and we saw a clear difference between C.J. C.J. C.C.C. at Notre Dame and Julianne at Ohio State. And with these two today, it's talented guys who are transferring to bigger programs, bigger opportunities. What do we see? With Mensa, I want to start with this, and we'll get into all the nuts and bolts of it. Outside of Dante Moore, Darien Mensa is the quarterback in the entire country that I trust the most. And I don't think there's a big gap, if I'm going to be totally honest after finishing up his tape. that I trust the most
Starting point is 00:07:38 inside the pocket got to make an accurate throw ball's going to be delivered I walked away from Ments's tape a lot higher on Dary and Mensa than I expected and I really liked him so I don't want this to get lost
Starting point is 00:07:58 and we'll get to Mensa in all the details in a minute however I think Sam Levitt has a chance to be a top five pick. Whoa. Whoa. This is going to be the one. This is, I think you're out of your, let me say this. I think, I think you're right. I think he has a chance. I see that, that universe. I see that world, that path. I think it's more likely than not he goes back to school for another year. How about that? I'm not, I wouldn't rule that out. I didn't say
Starting point is 00:08:32 top five pick in 2027. Okay. All right. You, you're playing it safe. Not really. I don't think anyone's ever said Sam Levitt's going to be could be a top five pick. Okay. So it's not that safe. And now for a special part of today's episode
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Starting point is 00:09:05 Talk about like right up our alley. I like building a team, developing prospects. And right now, you can make your rise from college to the big leagues with the EA Sports MVP bundle. Get both college football 27 and Madden NFL 27 plus deluxe edition rewards in both games. Pre-order it by July 8th. Plain and simple, let me boil this down. I think Sam Levitt can do things on the football field that most can't. I think Sam Leavitt is an explosive dynamic athlete with similar level quickness and speed.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I think Sam Levitt's arm is live and loose. I think Sam Levitt, as we talk about with all these prospects and in life in general, as Todd McShay at age 49 now, and seemingly like working through my degree in psychology because of everything life throws at you as a father and a husband and and everything else I've gone through. I believe strongly in what is our greatest strength can often be our fatal flaw. And it's absolutely the case with Sam Levitt. I love his aggressiveness.
Starting point is 00:10:20 What buried Brett Favre in many a moment is what made him absolutely fucking great. True. He has kuyans and onions that most don't have. Okay. I think Sam, here's the thing. I'm envisioning this, and I'm not saying it's going to happen. And it certainly creates a reason for pause. Let's just give the background, right?
Starting point is 00:10:48 Levitt injured his right foot against Baylor last September, okay? Played through it until the pain worsened, if you will. Ultimately, required season-ending Liz Frank surgery after some like conservative treatment to keep them on the field. Miss most of LSU spring practice while rehabbing. Later had the hardware removed. It was a planned procedure, but kind of, I wouldn't call it. It wasn't a setback, but it slowed the process, but it was expected.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Then he missed most of LSU spring practices did some seven on seven certain things. Then he later got, you know, after the hardware's removed, he winds up clocking a 21 mile per hour, GPS at LSU. Then in June, just a few weeks ago, Lane Kiffin comes out and says, quote, unquote, pretty much full strength, finally cleared for camp. It's the most positive report that we've gotten on him. So that's where he is injury-wise.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Sam Levitt is 6.1.5, 213 pounds. The National List has him at 4-6-5. I think those speeds have been conservative on these quarterbacks. I think he might be a 4-48 guy or something. somewhere in the four-fours. Worst case, he's a four-five guy. Regardless. Sam Levitt,
Starting point is 00:12:06 I envision this, right? That's why I started this conversation, this thought. Remember Mahomes that first year? And he got to sit out behind Alex Smith and work with and Reed and that staff. I envision a young man who has everything, skills-wise.
Starting point is 00:12:28 But what he's missing is scheduling. Because I'm watching his mechanics. And like he has good mechanics when his eyes are right. He's on schedule and does those things. But I'm but I'm also watching some like quick slants or like easy in cutting routes and missing high or behind a receiver. Those sorts of things. And you're like mechanically it's not necessarily the issue. It's a lot of his brilliance comes off platform, off schedule in chaos.
Starting point is 00:12:58 That's where he's at his best. It's where he's at his best. However, not however. So those things are awesome, and you can't coach those things into other guys. What you can coach is the scheduling aspect. And what you can coach, as we saw with Mahomes, is, all right, let's get him on schedule.
Starting point is 00:13:21 And when I say on schedule, I want to stop down for 10 seconds. an offense is like a ballet or like a synchronized swimming when it comes to the passing game three step five step seven step is the old school under center we're seeing teams our offenses get back to that more it's been a lot of shotgun where you're still everything is done where you're tying the drop for the quarterback with the routes being run and the and the progressions right he and a Arizona state wasn't And the scheduling part of it is staying coordinated with the timing of the routes matching up with
Starting point is 00:14:01 he's the top of his drop, foot plant ball out, right? That's where he's not great right now. But he's going to spend a year maybe two with Lane Kiffin. And Chambliss wasn't great at it when he got there. And look at Chambliss when he got to the end of the season. Plus, Chambliss's ability against Georgia, if you have any question to create, extend, and do all those things. look at Jackson Dart where he was early in his career he was a runner he was a sandlock guy a lot you know
Starting point is 00:14:29 and then you saw and you saw that in the 161 pressure drops that I talked ad nauseum about and his the Josh Allen traits right how but like he also learned to play on time and schedule right so the scheduling part is the most important thing for Sam levitt to take away some of those crazy moments decisions off target throws. If Lane can work his magic, and Lane did it in a very short time with Chambliss. Coming from Ferris State,
Starting point is 00:15:06 if Lane can work his magic now that we have a healthy Sam Levitt in Baton Rouge for the next couple months getting ready for the season, I think he can be a top five pick. That part of today's episode was brought to you by College Football 27, from campus legend to NFL superstar, Make your rise with the MVP bundle.
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Starting point is 00:15:58 That's the world that I'm with you. As we stand here July 6th, right? The summer, I can't get there with you yet. And I would push back. Isn't our job, Steve? Isn't our job? It's part of our job. I think you're going to be going here.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Let me finish the sentence because I know you can finish all of my sentences and I can do pretty much the same for you. Fair enough. But for people watching, especially people who maybe haven't watched from the very first episode and don't know us as intimately as others, let's let me, let me flesh this out a little bit. Isn't our job to project what it can look like and do that with an education based off of history, the supporting cast, the surroundings, who they're working with? If Sam Levitt was was going to a program with a defense. If Sam Levitt was going,
Starting point is 00:16:51 and this is going to, if Sam Levitt was going to maybe, I don't want to say George, but a defensive minded system, you know, head coach and system where like, he's got to play within these things. And I wouldn't have as much confidence.
Starting point is 00:17:09 He's going to Lane, man. I hear you. He's going to, he's going to Lane land. Yep. He's going to Lane land. you. Everyone else is going to L.S. New, Bat, Bruce.
Starting point is 00:17:20 He's going to Lane University. I agree with you. How much And I believe in that university. And I know that university has a lot of, it's like a university in Vegas. There's a lot of distractions. There's a lot of hot yoga. There's a lot of speculation. There's a lot of head coach with his shirt off and pictures. There's a lot of trolling. There's all that
Starting point is 00:17:40 stuff. But at its core, there's not many better at developing and quarterbacks, especially proven in a short period of time, than Lane Kiffin. So who am I to believe that that can't happen? And why wouldn't I have more confidence in this situation than maybe I do if Sam Levitt was going elsewhere? You should. I agree.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I have that. I think what you're looking at is the weight you put into that when you're looking at the overall evaluation. And when I'm looking at the overall evaluation, I'm going to push back hard on one of your points. I'm looking at the tape in Mississippi State. Woof. It was sloppy.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Woof. It was 45% of his passes against a bad, what ended up being a bad Mississippi State team. I know when it was wild. A bad mystery. Did you also study how covered up those receivers were and how many times he was scrambling for his life and the protection breakdowns?
Starting point is 00:18:38 There was a lot that went on. On one of his dropbacks, he almost fell down. I mean, he was, his feet were all over in that place in that game. And I felt like maybe this was no more Cam Scadaboo. This is early in the season. Second game of the season. No more Cam Scadaboo. This is my team now.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I felt like maybe he was pressing. Maybe he was just a little getting ahead of himself trying to make too many plays. And that's why. But at the end of the day, man. Did he show improvement after that? Did he show improvement against Texas? I guess. I guess when he completes 51% of his passes against Houston in his last game of the year,
Starting point is 00:19:13 And I guess we can blame that on the injury. I don't know, man. I'm not seeing what you're seeing with the tape. I don't think the tape is that good. Let's just do what we do in this building the board, 2027 quarterback series. And I appreciate, like, I think we carry this dialogue into it. What do you see in the strengths of Levitt,
Starting point is 00:19:35 and then we should transition to Mensa as well? The arm, man. And the mobility is right up there. So don't get me wrong. his arm is different. There were a couple times where I was, you know, I love when you're watching that and you're just kind of like,
Starting point is 00:19:49 who, or you like laugh, you like catch yourself laughing out loud. Yeah. There are certain throws at Leavitt made that the ball gets from A to B so fast that it's almost comical. And I almost, I really try to stay away from arm strength unless you're able to see a guy throw live.
Starting point is 00:20:05 But this is, you can just watch him on tape and you get the feeling that you hear when the ball hits the receiver's hands, you hear it. And I don't think. he's one of those guys. I think he's probably a little bit, I think Sellers probably has a slightly stronger arm, but he's
Starting point is 00:20:19 also a little bit better in Sellers in the sense that he doesn't seem to have to put, not everything has to be a fastball for him, which is good. That said, I think it's his arm slightly above his mobility because I'm with you on that one, my man. He can extend, he can make plays, and he is, he's
Starting point is 00:20:35 just like the guy that Lane had at Ole Miss and Jackson Dart in the sense that he does not care about what kind of shot he's going to take when he runs. He is an ultra competitive dude, both as a runner and a passer. And I love that about his game.
Starting point is 00:20:50 I get the path, man. I'm not with you there yet. I just don't see where he is. Where he is in his journey right now is not enough for me to be saying some of the things that you're saying. Here's the thing that over the years I've developed, my spidey senses go up sometimes.
Starting point is 00:21:12 I've learned to try to. and I'm not perfect at it, but I've learned to try to separate, like, okay, the result in terms of missed targets or off-target throws, what's the reason, right? And when I see its eyes scheduling all that stuff, which in part is...
Starting point is 00:21:37 So you have no problem with this footwork. You have no problem with this footwork in balance. That's a fair question. I'm not saying I have no problem with it I see I see the why behind it With arch With arch I truly believe a lot of it is His eyes weren't in the right place
Starting point is 00:21:53 He's making throat and he's a long levered dude Where it's hard to bring your feet with you From read one read two read three When you're six foot four and change Where Levitt is six one and a half He can do those things But I think his game his mental clock is like
Starting point is 00:22:14 you know but Mahomes' stuff was a mess too and I'm not saying he's Mahomes I just I think it's it's finding someone to channel here's where you need to be with this I'm gonna I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:22:31 create less chaos in your head man I'm gonna alleviate you alleviate some of that chaos in your mind and get you to where we're going here and if it's not there we're going here And if not that, you're a brilliant runner. So far, these are, and we now are up to eight quarterbacks. And all of them have some level of mobility.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Even Dante Moore has some level of extend creativity, even though he's not fast, right? The three that are different, Sorosby as well. So four of them are different. Yeah. But this cat's quicker than Sorosby. And maybe just as fast.
Starting point is 00:23:11 if not faster. The fastest on a straight line is seller. Sellers is the quickest and the fastest. Arch has this initial acceleration, but he's not as, right? Right. Matt Leavitt has got both. He can make you miss.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Yeah. He's got all those things. Those four guys are as we skit, like we always talk about our grading scale when it comes to the position specific traits. One is exceptional. Five is marginal. Three is in the middle, average.
Starting point is 00:23:45 All four of those guys are ones in terms of the mobility aspect of it, right? So going back to the throwing, yeah, I see his, the footwork can be drilled in and more repetitive. That's what I wrote in my, what I'm writing in my report, like, it's ongoing report throughout this process. but right now where I'm at with it is when he actually is like lined up and scheduled and all that his mechanic he he has a baseline of mechanics it's just not necessarily drilled home but I'm much more concerned with let's get him where it's he's working within the timing of everything I think that's going to alleviate some of the off target throws right um but my first point in all this where I started this conversation is some guys
Starting point is 00:24:39 don't have the ability to that natural touch. It's like watching Shaq with free throws or some, you know, like some guys just like, you ain't going to coach it in. And I'm not saying you can't coach some of it in and like work on it. But like Sellers is concerning to me in a regard. And again,
Starting point is 00:24:59 I went back and watched more of it after our conversation. And he does make a lot of tough, accurate throws and anticipation, those sorts of things. But I do worry about guys who it's like a hundred mile an hour fastball. and like five yards. And so, and that,
Starting point is 00:25:14 it begs the question in those situations, is there a natural touch there? And I want to see that. With Levitt, he can throw, he can throw a fast ball 104 miles an hour, but he also can layer the ball. And that's promising.
Starting point is 00:25:33 He can take something off of it. I think Laird is a step too far from me, because I don't think he's accurate. I just don't think he's nearly as accurate. as you are, does you do? We're seeing it different. I recognize that the result is where it is not where it needs to be. I'm saying I will be shocked if by late October, early November, we're not looking at a guy
Starting point is 00:25:55 who's in mid-60, like, 62, let's say 62% completion percentage or better. I think Elaine's going to make that much of a difference because I think the things that are off with his ball placement, not every single time. But a lot of it is he needs to be structured in the timing and scheduling of an offense. And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But how many guys that we've watched have his ability, man? I think we watched, I mean, and we can get into nitpicking, but the four. There's four of them.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I mean, it's those four that you've already mentioned. I think those guys have that ability. Sourcesbee doesn't have his arm strength. and Arch doesn't have his arm strength and you can get into like the nitpicking of it all but there's an elite natural ability guys in this class but speaking of structure, let me get back to,
Starting point is 00:26:51 I feel like I blow up the structure of these shows every single time. We're supposed to do strengths than weaknesses and I'm like, and I get all over the place. So where do you want to go? Let me, I'll try to be better at it. Let's get back to Mensa because I think it's,
Starting point is 00:27:05 this is Mensa versus 11. And I knew that. this was going to happen. I'm the worst. So let me start on the strengths real quickly in Mensa. And I touched on in the beginning. This guy is cash. He is money.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Like he is your checking account that is consistently like you trust it. Right. He's got he's the income. You know exactly what you're getting. And he is mobile and he does extend. And like he's, he's got this like quickness and suddenness as a scrambler. I don't think he's super fast.
Starting point is 00:27:45 He's not super dangerous. But he rolling out, especially to his right, is brilliant. Biggest surprise of the tape for me was how well he moved. I did not expect to see that kind of mobility. That was the biggest surprise. I agree.
Starting point is 00:27:59 But I also, my second biggest surprise or up there with it is, my gosh, I trust this guy. Mm-hmm. If you put him in, and we've talked about this, I think it was maybe CJ Carr or Julian San or something.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Here we go. I had the same thought. You put him in that two offense in Miami. Yep. You put him in the right system. He's got a good arm, but it's not great. I would give him a three. I give him a two.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Yeah, I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. He doesn't drive it with any kind of, you know. But he can, no. I put in there, like it's 55 yards. But we'll get to his weaknesses. I want to make it perfectly clear. I want to make it perfectly clear with Mentsa.
Starting point is 00:28:47 He's a special, special passer. You tell me we got a third and seven, and we get the right play dialed up and it's going to require our quarterback to make the right read, get the ball out on time, and place it perfectly. It's messed up. man, I might take him over. In certain
Starting point is 00:29:13 throws, I might take him over Dante. But he and Dante are in a different class, in my opinion. In terms of pure passing of the football, of the eight quarterbacks we've done, Dante and Mensa are in a class of their own. They're just different. So if you were setting up a skills competition
Starting point is 00:29:31 and you had the bucket in the back of the end zone or you were making these accuracy throws, I actually like Mensa. This is how I would. put it. I actually like Mentsa slightly ahead of Dante there. I really do. I do too. If you're putting them in a situation where they have to read a coverage and they have to make a decision quick, and I think both of them are really good in these areas, I like Dante a little bit more. That's why I think Dante's at the top of his classes. I think his brain is a little bit more advanced.
Starting point is 00:30:01 It's a little more the way he's able to read and dissect is a little more advanced than anyone else. But Menta is up there. It's impressive what he can do. So those are the strengths. Look, Duke had PFF numbers, right? Duke had 20 drop passes. His adjusted completion percentage was 74.1%. And speaking to what you're talking about with that Tua offense, this dude on in breaking routes, on crossers,
Starting point is 00:30:34 it is, everything is in stride. If you're a yak receiver, you are dying to play with this guy. If you're a guy who wants to do his, if you're one of those receivers that turns and we're running back after the catch, this is your quarterback. You're going to love him. And also, I think when he attacks the deep middle of the field, he is really effective to. Outside the hash is maybe not as much. I think he's a little more inconsistent there.
Starting point is 00:30:57 But when he's attacking the deep middle, it's also impressive. Yeah, I wrote, you just touched on it. Like, love is touch, trajectory, layers it beautifully, incredibly catchable ball, leads receivers unlike most college quarterbacks. Important to note, receivers drop a lot of passes that hit them either in the numbers, I said in the numbers and or in stride. Excited to see him with an upgraded receiver core at Miami in 2026, it could be pretty special. Could be.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I agree. You know what I mean? You put him behind an offensive line, Mario Cristobal, their coaching staff. you put him with a run game with Mark Fletcher behind him and you create that balance for him. And then you talk about Malachi Tony and some of the other receivers that Miami's going to roll out there with the recruiting class and the money that they've spent
Starting point is 00:31:55 and a defense that's not going to force him into situations that he, you know what I mean? And Duke was good for the ACC. They won the ACC, but they were like nine and five. But they were a nice little football team, man. They overachieved and MENzo was a massive part of that. But this is Miami now, you know? Well, there's a reason that Duke sued to keep him there, you know?
Starting point is 00:32:17 They try to keep him there. I mean, I would have. Yeah, no brain. I would have brought in Kessler and some of the other big, like, not so fast. I need MENSA on that wall. Did you get this vibe? And it's funny, like, I'm always like, well, am I making excuses for one quarterback and not the other? But did you get a vibe from watching his tape that it was almost like,
Starting point is 00:32:37 Like he and Duke were getting to know each other early in the season. Like I'm watching the Illinois tape and they're running. Yeah. High high like difficulty throws where he's rolling. Against a 15 to 20 yards. That's that's 50. They're 401 in terms of like they are always smart. Moving the pocket of time.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Yeah. It was just it was like this is let him do his thing. Like get to know what I learned. They got to know each other a little bit. And then it started to roll. And we should mention. as we have 6-3-205 is the estimated he's estimated height weight for for METSA right he is a average to like really solid height lean framed right didn't look as lean as I thought he would on tape but yeah he is
Starting point is 00:33:26 lean three-star recruit out of Santa Maria California St. Joseph High School redshirted at two lane in 23, just to give a little background, right? Took over as a full-time starter. Started all 13 games for Tulane in 2024. Led the Green Wave to a 9-4 record and a birth in the AAC championship game. He doesn't win every game. The guy finds a way to get his team there at the end of the season, right? Transfers to Duke after that season, starts all 14 games, completed 67% of his throws,
Starting point is 00:34:00 34 touchdowns, just six picks. led the Blue Devils to the ACC championship game. Improbable. Duke doesn't win the ACC, right? The guy finds ways to win, okay? What I love from the tape, and that's why I want to go in the background on him a little bit before I said this, what I love from that Illinois tape,
Starting point is 00:34:19 he grabbed his onions. It was kind of a nightmare early on, and they were asking him to do things that were not effective. His receivers were not capable against that, coverage. And then they started rolling the pocket a little bit. And he got his ass handed to him multiple times. And he never flinched. And he started all 27 games that were available to him to play. So while he's got that linear frame and all that stuff, he's tough as nails. And he's the kind of guy. And I kept writing like, I just trust him. I just, it was soothing to watch Mens's tape because
Starting point is 00:34:59 if it was there, he was going to get it. And then he was leading receivers. And I trusted he was going to pop up from every hit. And I trusted a big hit wasn't going to affect his next throw or his next series. And a mistake wasn't going to affect the next decision. There's something about this dude. And I'm the first to recognize he doesn't have Levitt's natural God-given ability. It doesn't have arches.
Starting point is 00:35:29 doesn't have Sorsby's. Nope. Doesn't have sellers. Nope. But there's a lot of guys in the league that are that are this level of passer with the toughness and the instincts and moments and the ability to bounce back from mistakes and or beatings that go on to have great NFL careers.
Starting point is 00:35:53 They do. No, it's so true. I just, you know, beatings. It's a little dramatic, but I got you. you. I hear you. It kind of felt like he was getting jumped in a dark alley after like, oh, here we go. You know, at times against Illinois or early in that game. But yeah, they wound up, but at one point they climbed back in, it's like 30 something to 19, you know, like, there was a lot of fight in this guy. So, and he said, I thought he's a player that was better at
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Starting point is 00:37:07 Can you, I love the way he navigates the pocket at times, but there is too many times where the ball's on the ground. He's got to do a better job of taking care of the football. And it doesn't really make sense because there's times where he climbs and slides and you're like, this is everything that I'm looking for. And then there's other times where he holds onto the ball too long and he just gets, he takes a hit. I also think that we talked about this with Dante. And I think these are two guys that are,
Starting point is 00:37:35 I think we're going to compare a lot going forward. He is a, like we hit on a little bit earlier, he has a good feel for how to attack coverage and all those things. But some of the post-snap rotations that got Dante, I think there are an issue for Mensa as well of watching where he has a really good feel pre-snap, but sometimes he's missing what's happening after and who's dropping where and making sure that he understands that a coverage can change after the snap. So there's some things there that I think he needs to clean up.
Starting point is 00:38:06 My guess is he does. I mean, the way that he's progressed, as we said, I'm pretty optimistic about him being able to do that. Yeah. And I think there are some limitations, as we said, that he's not, he's not, he is more mobile, but he's not dynamic. I think the biggest thing is his arm strength, whether it's two or three,
Starting point is 00:38:29 it's not at the level. So he's going to have to be in a system that plays to his strengths, and he absolutely will be. But he can't do with the football or with his legs what those other four guys we're talking about. But that's okay.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Because a lot of guys in the league that go on to have really successful starting careers in the league, don't have some of those traits, but they're able to overcome it. I'm fired up to watch them at Miami. Oh, my God. What a treat we have on our hands
Starting point is 00:39:02 with Arch coming back for another year with Sark. And Dante with a new coordinator, can he make that next step, even though it's not the same exact thing? And CJ Carr is a second year. Healthier receiver, yeah. I mean, that's going to be interesting. And Carr is a second year player.
Starting point is 00:39:21 saying as a second year player the rinse refined repeat sellers new coordinator Kendall Bryle's like every time we get done with them like the biggest takeaway in this whole series is it's going to be hard to watch all these games at the same time and I and it's going to be hard
Starting point is 00:39:42 like who am I going to choose am I going to watch Levitt with his first game under Kiffin against Clemson am I going to but I'm dying to see sellers and now I get to see DJ Carr. And now like Julian's saying with those wet, like, I'm just excited. I'm just excited.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And I've tried to temper all of it. But we're set up for a wild year. And even if there's failure or disappointment or it doesn't look at, that's still a storyline. Yeah. Plus, we have so many darts to throw this year. There's so many of them that have one or two fail. And hopefully that's not the case, obviously. But one, two, three fail.
Starting point is 00:40:17 There's still five, six guys you're looking at, you know, there's just, you have. there's more opportunity this year what about levit with his weaknesses and i think again he's just he's he misses too many throws man i mean he just misses too many throws it's just it's frustrating to watch i mean i i guess you know like i guess he got he got better over the i mean it wasn't it's tough to get you know not get better if than over 45 percent of your pass is being completed i guess he got better uh i just didn't i think the little lower body mechanic i said it already i think his feet are a mess at times like a mess i think there are times that he wants he doesn't take the the easy way out and go underneath he wants to press things downfield
Starting point is 00:41:03 uh i i think he has a long ways to go as a pocket passer let me put it this way his stock is at a price that i would empty my bank account on and it's at it's at a price i get that that statement i get that state of because the inconsistency because the completion percentage because he didn't have that follow-up year and stay healthy and show progression because he's had an offseason where he's now had a second kind of procedure that was planned and he hasn't been in the system with lane and going through all the things but more so than any one of these quarterbacks as far as where the stock is now and where I think it's going to be come October, November. and into the draft, if he winds up coming out for 2027,
Starting point is 00:41:56 I think the most money to be made in a stock, if we're putting all eight of these quarterbacks so far, is in Sam Leavitt. I really do. But I'm also not ignorant, as we talked about weaknesses, that yes, that is an issue. And the biggest question I have for Sam Leavitt this year is, can Lane Kiffin in a short,
Starting point is 00:42:20 period of time that just got shortened due to that injury that we talked about, can Lane Kiffin get him on schedule, understanding the offense, both from a ball placement, the result being better, and from it's that tight rope you walk as a quarterback. And I started this thing talking about Brett Fav and in some ways Josh Allen, and it was Mahomes coming out of Texas Tech. You can't can't go and and muzzle or suppress all the greatness. So you got to let that part flourish, right? It's Caleb Williams with Chicago. But you got to go, you got to cut out.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Caleb Williams is an awesome example. Thank you. Yeah. Like how do you get him to do not, do not lose that ability, but, you know, bringing it a little bit? But you got to trim the dead, the dead leaves off the tree.
Starting point is 00:43:21 and rip out the weeds around it. So to let the beautiful part grow, but you got to get rid of the ugly parts and the parts that are infecting the rest of the plant or the tree, right? Yeah. I don't know when I became a botanist. Yeah, this is, yeah. I do a montage of all your metaphors.
Starting point is 00:43:43 That's what I want. But you know what I mean? Like, it's a beautiful flower or tree or plant or whatever, but there's some weeds that, got to get pulled and there's some dead leaves on there like, I'm looking at a plant in the back of my office here. And that's not why he came to mind, but I'm staring at him. Like usual suspects, your entire pot is about what you're seeing behind the camera.
Starting point is 00:44:07 And then my limp will turn into a full Kevin Spacey walk in the end. Yeah. So that's where I am with Leavitt. And I think it's, I knew it was going to be fun. And I've watched a lot of Sam Levitt. but drilling down after drilling down all these seven other quarterbacks, he's the eighth quarterback I've watched now,
Starting point is 00:44:29 I'm most excited about what that's going to look like in Baton Rouge this fall. I really am. I get that. I get that. I really am. I think it's got a chance to be the, I think it's got a chance to be the story
Starting point is 00:44:42 of college football in 2026. Sam Levin, Lane Kiffin, in LSU, first year together, first year for both of them in Baton Rouge, all the expectations, all the hype, and they just kind of put the blinders on. And if Kiffin can do for Levitt what he has done historically with quarterbacks in a short period of time, it's got a chance to be the story in college football. All right, this is the part that I love.
Starting point is 00:45:13 How does it transition to the NFL? Do you have concerns? Is there a clear vision? Let's talk about Sam Levitt first. When you talk about transitioning his game to the NFL, what do you see? I see a guy that needs to maybe sit behind someone for a little bit and get a better feel for coverages and some of his footwork and cleaning that all up. He's not, I am excited about what he can do when he gets on the field and he can make plays.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Maybe not play behind someone. You know what? That's like that's bullshit. No one does that anymore. I see a guy who's going to go through some growing pains early on. Let's put it that way. I think it's going to take him a minute that he could be a better quarterback than Mensa in year four.
Starting point is 00:46:01 But let's put it this way. He could be a better quarterback than Mensa in year four, but I think Mensa will be a better quarterback in those first three seasons because he's more ready to make the jump. I'm like you. I tried it as best I can to guard against the, he sits for the first year and he has a Mahomes like situation. Because it doesn't really,
Starting point is 00:46:20 that was kind of a unicorn situation, especially in today's game, and especially if he's the first round pick. But lump that in with Josh Allen, some of the early, like, utilizing running ability, Jalen Hertz, who had some time to get to before he became the guy. I see some Baker Mayfield here, by the way. Is that crazy? Baker didn't, Baker's weirdly.
Starting point is 00:46:51 mobile because he's kind of slow. He's not that. Yeah, right. He's not that kind of it's just I see some like this almost the swagger, the competitiveness, the arm talent. Like it's not it's not perfect, but I just see a little bit of it there. You know who I see? And I'm interested to see what year two looks like is I'm watching social media and jumping out of boats
Starting point is 00:47:12 and throwing the boats and all that stuff. And in his model girlfriend and all the in scataboo and all that. But I'm very. interested to see my guy Jackson Dart from year one to year two. But I could see a year one that looks a little bit like for Sam Levitt, a little bit like
Starting point is 00:47:31 Jackson Dart where don't hate it. Moments of brilliance. You see all the ability. The fan base is pumped. This is our guy. We got a guy into. But keen observers of the quarterback
Starting point is 00:47:47 position are like, yeah, the running stuff, some of the off Schedule stuff was brilliant, but we all know those of us who like really study this, there's got to be a serious progression as a pocket passer, understanding defenses, getting the ball out. And he needs a healthy, like, neighbors, he needs better protection, all those sorts of things. I could see that kind of, all right, he comes in five, six games in rookie season, five, six
Starting point is 00:48:15 games into it or whatever it is, four games, ten games, whatever it is. And he has flashes of brilliance, but we're all like cautiously optimistic about year two, right? Right. And I guess I didn't even think about the parallel with Lane Kiffin with Jackson Dart, but that even makes it more. Yeah, it's there. What about what about Mensa?
Starting point is 00:48:35 What do you see for him? He, again, ceiling not as high. I think he could be a starter from day one. And everyone's going to go through the growing pains. I should say that too. But I think he can be a franchise quarterback as a rookie. I think he's got that kind of skill set when you look at enough arm talent,
Starting point is 00:48:53 enough mobility, and then you add the brain and the accuracy. I mean, he's a guy that I think is going to hit the ground running in the NFL, especially if the momentum continues to go the way that it's gone. I think momentum is important for these quarterbacks. That's why we talk about their supporting cast and how it might go. If the momentum continues to go the way it's been going over the last two seasons,
Starting point is 00:49:14 watch out. I think he's going to be an early pick and I think he's going to make some waves early on. Do you think C.J. Stroud's rookie year is completely out of question? No, I don't. I don't.
Starting point is 00:49:31 I don't either. I'm not saying it will be. But I don't think they're totally dissimilar. I think it's a better comp for Dante Moore if we had to go the comp route. Yeah. I think there's more mobility in his game. as we both kind of, it was, some light was shed on it, you know. But I think there's this confidence about him where I don't think anything's going to be too big for him.
Starting point is 00:50:00 I think he's so mature and so skilled as a passer. But we need to see it now at Miami, right? We need to see that next step. And I'm expecting it. I'm going to be honest, I'm kind of expecting it. I really am. I am too. I mean, why wouldn't we?
Starting point is 00:50:21 Based on what's happened there in the last two seasons. I mean, you already said it. I mean, they resurrected Carson Beck's career. He turned Cam Ward into a first overall pick. I have very high expectations. And again, I expect him to meet them. I'm just going through some starters in the league. What are the other cops with MENSA?
Starting point is 00:50:45 You know, like, I'm literally going through every single start. Michael Pennix Yeah side Yeah Bryce Young No
Starting point is 00:50:59 No I don't love that one Put me on the spot And as you will know I'm really effective When you do this Brock Bertie I like him more
Starting point is 00:51:13 I think he's more talented The Purdy I excel under pressure I'm actually Now that I got you I know you just want to keep playing Yeah Gene the best of Gino Smith
Starting point is 00:51:25 Um Not a horrible one man I don't hate the Gino one actually I don't either That one kind of pops out a little bit Think about Gino Good Year's Seattle Like the best of though
Starting point is 00:51:39 I think the best of yeah Of what our hopeful Not hopeful I hate the word hopeful What our projection is If things continue to develop on this, the way he's tracking. I can see that.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Yeah, I think that gives a clear path of what, what it could be if things go the way we think it's going to go in Miami, build confidence, like enter the league, got it. Two years at Tulane, a year at Duke, a year at Miami, mature, figured out a lot of different things, gone through different coordinator systems, all that. He's kind of ready, you know, from a college to the NFL standpoint. All right, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Let's do it. This one could be fun. This is going to be interesting. Grades. Where is stacking these dudes? Let me give you... I'm going to give you an overview if you're listening and watching. And scumbags, get your pens and paper out.
Starting point is 00:52:41 We got Dante at around a 94-ish, the highest grade. Yep. We've got sellers at a 93-8. Some projection there. And I say, sorry, I say ish, because A, it's July. B, B, Mench and I, for the purposes of this drill, as we do, as we get closer to the draft in April, try to find a middle ground, right? And then we come on the show when we talk about, well, I'm higher on this guy and you're a little lower.
Starting point is 00:53:16 We've kind of met in the middle or like I won that battle, Mence won that battle. I give up. Fine. Take your offensive tackle and give them a 92. I got an 89, but I'm just, I can't fight. It's called building the board for a reason. It's not the board has been built. It's building the board.
Starting point is 00:53:33 We are in the process of building the board, right? And EA sports is no different, man. Like, I've seen every game I've gone to, I see EA sports like scouts out there. They're like digging in. I love that. I love this partnership with EA sports, man. It's great. kids upstairs at AJ and and Tate who are literally like, hey, can we get the bundle?
Starting point is 00:53:58 Can we get the bundle? Let's go. Let's go. Yeah. Get a week early, right? Yeah. So I'm dying to know the, I'm not dying to know the arm strength on sellers. Like they're like, they're dialed in.
Starting point is 00:54:08 And I'm kind of pumped to get up there and beat their ass too. Yeah. The old man. You can nitpick, you can nitpick the ratings too of I love that. I'm like, oh, they got this one right when they agree with me. on a guy that no one else who agree with the odd. And then when it's a guy don't like, you know, they love.
Starting point is 00:54:25 What are they thinking? Yeah. What are you talking about? That's the best part. It's a conversation starters. But even like talking to Eric DeKosa, the GM of the Baltimore Ravens. They use them in.
Starting point is 00:54:37 By the way, an organization that has as good a track record as anyone in the NFL at drafting, they pumped that into that 123 ingredient cocktail to create a mix. Into their mix. So I think it's a perfect part. You talk about all the partnerships, and Fanduil is like they're the best that we've loved every minute. But like EA sports,
Starting point is 00:55:00 as we're building our board and talking about all these traits, like it couldn't be a better partnership for this summer. And we're thrilled to have them on. So Dante at around a 94, sellers at the number two quarterback spot around in 93. Then we've got car in arch. We'll call it a 91. I kind of lumped them together very different.
Starting point is 00:55:20 quarterbacks, but CJ Car for Notre Dame and Arch Manning from Texas are kind of right in that next spot. Call it number three tied, whatever you want. Then we've got Sayin and Soresby, a notch below recognizing Sorsby, if he was playing this year at Texas Tech and had an opportunity to build off of those incredible traits, I'm not saying the grade would be higher this year. We'd feel a lot better that the grade would be higher going into the 2027 draft next April. But we ain't going to see him, probably until, like highly likely until the senior bowl. Maybe it's the East West shrine the week before if he decides he's going to play in multiple. But I told you, they've already invited him.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Drew Fabianich told me we invited him. And the response from Sorsby's camp is we fully expect him to be in Mobile next year. And it's kind of what everyone's got their eyesight set on in terms of when we're going to see Sorsby next. So Dante Sellers, Car Arch, saying Sorsby. Yep. let's go Mentsa first. Where are you plugging him in for you? Right.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Yeah. I gave him a 90. I think he's in the same bucket as Arch and CJ Car. But I gave him a 90. I think those guys are slightly ahead of them. I struggled with that. But I think they're in the same bucket. If you want to go 90 or 91,
Starting point is 00:56:39 that's fine by me. But that's where I, that's what I'm giving him. I got to get better about this, man. We're in the present. It's not done and dusted. Like the hay is not in the barn. I keep saying like,
Starting point is 00:56:49 it's a done deal. I am giving him a 90 right now. I'm the same. I almost think we could have Dante at 95. So we can we can argue the actual grades. We'll get sorted. We're going to do if it's Dante and then and then sellers and then arch and car, I'm putting Mentsa just behind those two. But like it's there like it's pretty cool this early in the process to feel really strongly, like this, we're supposed to be just sending flights up in the air, air traffic control, like you're, you're headed to Boston, you're headed to L.A. We'll, we'll sort it all out later. I feel like we're way further. Like, I'm already talking about like when we're going to, the ETA on landing, altitude, all that stuff. So, but I've got MENSA as exactly as you
Starting point is 00:57:41 do, just on like the tail of those two, but I'm going to put them right now just a notch below arching car. Where do you got Leavitt? You go first. I want to hear this. I want to have an honest reaction to what you've done here. I've got Leavitt as the third best quarterback in this class, and I've got him between a 93 and a 92 grade.
Starting point is 00:58:06 I've got him ahead of C.J. Carr, who I just told you, I'm absolutely in love with. And I've got him slightly ahead of Arch Manning, who you know I'm absolutely in love with. And I want everyone to understand this. I honestly think there's a path that Arch could be the first. quarterback drafted in April. So don't get any of this twisted.
Starting point is 00:58:24 We just happen to have the best quarterback class potentially. If all these guys have the year we expect them to have and they all come out for the 2027 class, this could be the best quarterback class in the history of the NFL draft. And I've been tiptoeing around that for a while because we built up, we overhyped what last year could be. And so I'm cautious about it, but fuck it. Like, I've never. ever been in July this excited about a group, a group of guys.
Starting point is 00:58:54 And even the year, 2024, we knew about Caleb. We knew about Drake. We were hopeful Jaden would take another step, didn't know he was going to have the year that he had. And Mike, like, if you were scouting off of one year, Jaden was the best quarterback in that class and his rookie year was the best quarterback of that class. But you can now see why all three of those guys were one, two, three off the board. And we didn't know Pennix was going to wind up being Michael Pennixt.
Starting point is 00:59:20 is getting drafted where he didn't. Let's see if that winds up being the right call. Bo Nix, we didn't know that he was going to, you know, have take another step under Will Stein at Oregon in his final year and be the 12th pick. And J.J. McCarthy, like, yeah, it's kind of a mess right now in Minnesota. We get it. But win a national championship and play, you know, things that he did. So we didn't know going into that year about the other three is the point I'm trying to make that they would be.
Starting point is 00:59:47 And we didn't even know Jaden would be in the mix in the top three. I'm going into this year being like, if all these guys play the way, anywhere close to the way we think, and all these guys for the 2027 class, I don't, there isn't a comp. 83, I guess, if you want. But I'm saying all that to say, or you look and you say, well, you've got, you got arch and car tied for fourth behind Dante and Sellers. But I'm also saying, like, they're all within, like, two, like, striking distance. Yeah, like 95 to 92 or 94 to 91. Like they're all right there.
Starting point is 01:00:25 They're all legit first round grades. And I also want to say this, we've done eight quarterbacks. We've done eight quarterbacks. And Sorsby is the biggest wild card because there's a lot of shit to get through. The gambling, the addiction, is the league going to suspend him? Is there more stuff in his past? How is you going to look in January? All those things.
Starting point is 01:00:47 but from a talent perspective, I would lump him in here too. All eight of these guys, to me in a given draft year, are top 50 prospects. Mm-hmm. So here's what I'll say to you. And I feel like you're stalling
Starting point is 01:01:05 because you know what's coming down the pipe right now. I want to be careful about how I say this because I agree with a lot of what you're saying. And I am very excited to watch Sam Leibbitt this year. And again, I see the world. I see the path. I see the universe where what you're saying is comes true.
Starting point is 01:01:23 But I want to I want to apologize to my mother right now. And I want to apologize to your aunt. And I want to apologize to any of the young listeners out there. And I mean with all due respect, McShay, get the fuck out of here with that grade. I cannot understand how you can have him that high. I just can't. Not yet. If you want to talk to me in three or four months when he's doing these things and we're
Starting point is 01:01:47 starting to see this happen. I get it. He is at best, I think, the seventh best quarterback that we've watched on tape. I really believe that. Can he do different things? Yes. I watched that Mississippi State team. To let people behind the curtain a little bit
Starting point is 01:02:03 here in a normal year before I, McShay, thankfully dragged me on this podcast and put me in front of a camera and made me put things out there now, I would have called you and said, I don't think we should have Levitt on our board. Because the stock is too volatile.
Starting point is 01:02:18 It could be here. It could be there. It's going to be up and down. It's going to be roller coaster. He's got more eligibility. Let's not keep him on the board right now because it's a no win. It's a no win for the player. If we put him too high or too low.
Starting point is 01:02:32 And it's a no win for us if we put him too high or too low. I do not see a guy who would be the third best quarterback in a historic quarterback class right now. And because I don't see it right now, how can you put him a head? head of guys who have played better, who have talent. I just, I don't get it. I am, I understand it. I don't want to seem like I don't like Sam Levitt or I don't have a high opinion of what
Starting point is 01:02:57 Lane Kiffin can do. But man, are we getting ahead of ourselves that we put in that high? I haven't laid my eyes on you this summer. You've been up in New Hampshire. I know you're getting ready to go to Montana. I want a welfare check on you. What do you mean? This got, Sam Levitt's like,
Starting point is 01:03:17 Sam Levitt is a special, special talent. Isn't it our job to get ahead of this shit? So Arch Manning, a special talent? Yeah, but not near, like, yeah, but has a, really? I see he's a big six foot four, 230 pound athlete who, as unbelievable acceleration. I trust Sam Levitt to make more special plays. flicking the wrist, extending. Like, he does things that Arch can't do.
Starting point is 01:04:00 He's got this loose arm about him where he, I don't disagree. Again, I don't disagree with a lot of the things you're saying. I got burnt on Mahomes. I was too low on Mahomes. I feel like, and I'm not over correcting, this is more like a decade or so later. I'm, I can't ignore unique, unique traits. this cat this cat's got him I can't wait for November
Starting point is 01:04:30 hey Tucker I'm speaking to you directly my friend please clip this shit please clip it because in November it's going to be a miserable month for Steve Minch no it's not you just wait you just wait and why I'm going to make it
Starting point is 01:04:48 I'm going to be insufferable how because it's like how do you not see this? I do see it. I, this is what you, this is your, you're trying to change the argument here. I do see it. But he hasn't done it yet.
Starting point is 01:05:02 If you can put that kind of great on sellers, you're that excited about sellers, how do you, how, it feels like you're a walking seller's tape. Sellers tape is, I don't know, five times better.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Oh. You're kidding me. He completed 45% of his passes against Mississippi State. I got kids in camp. I finally have a couple hours free in the McShea house. Forty-five. I'm a newly wed.
Starting point is 01:05:30 I would much rather go hang out with Marissa right now in a quiet home with the air conditioning's working because the heat waves over. I would much rather go hang out with her than do this shit with you anymore. Like honestly. I know, no, honestly. How do you think? How do you not see this? How do what, how do his, did his tape isn't better than sellers? I'm not saying it's better.
Starting point is 01:05:51 I didn't give him a better great. I'm saying that he's in the neighborhood of that. Everything that sellers can do, he can do. Okay, so. Do you want me to start looking at the Mississippi State game? You want me to start picking out some of the sellers games? Just go for it. Go for it.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Give me a performance that was that bad. Virginia Tech wasn't the prettiest thing I've ever seen. It wasn't. He still made more plays in that game than maybe Levitt made in two or three games this year. How about the second half of Texas A&M when he fucking bit it? How about, I get it.
Starting point is 01:06:31 45% against a shitty Mississippi State defense. Is Mississippi State in that defense better than Texas A&M defense? How about that wide open slant that he, go for it? Air mails it. Go for it. Third and seven. The team needs them.
Starting point is 01:06:49 They're on their 48. The game's falling apart. I will just throw on the Mississippi State. If I'm in the same room as you, I'm just throwing on that tape and letting it roll. It's not good. It's not good. Okay. I can't wait.
Starting point is 01:07:04 I'm telling you. I'm texting Lane the second we get off of this and I'm like, we're good? Because I now, now I'm in this. Now I'm like, I'm Sam Levitt's agent, basically. Yeah, I know. I kind of like this. I kind of like you're that guy. And listen, I, I, I, I, I, I,
Starting point is 01:07:23 I, again, I cannot say this over it again. And maybe you can't have your cake and eat it. Through that, I get the path. I just cannot put enough weight on that. On Lane Kiffin's just going to do what he does. And Sam Levitt's going to stay healthy and he's just going to unlock all this town. And I don't want this to get lost it. I'm just like, oh, Lane's so good.
Starting point is 01:07:42 He's going to fix all the. No, I'm saying I actually see what the issues are with him. I know. And he couldn't be going to a better person. teacher, coach, developer than Lane for those specific things that he needs to work on. If Jackson Dart can become Jackson Dart,
Starting point is 01:08:06 Sam Levitt's more gifted than Jackson Dart. Jackson Dart doesn't throw the deep ball very well and doesn't have the energy that he has. Jackson Dart's a really mobile quarterback and has a, you know, we spent a whole year me glazing Jackson Dart, right? Yes. Sam Levitt's more gifted.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Sam Levitt's more gifted than Chambliss. Yeah. So get out of here with that. All right, we'll see. Time will tell. We'll see. Yep. This was a good one.
Starting point is 01:08:38 This was a fun one. Yeah. I'm pissed now, though. I know. Do you love to draw these like sharp contrast now? It's going to be like that I hated Sam Levitt the whole time. I love that. Oh, you're going to try and do that for the rest of the cycle.
Starting point is 01:08:50 If you ever say something positive about Sam Levitt again, I'm going to have it clipped if you took Mississippi State. Yeah. Mississippi State. Yep. Mississippi State. Does LSU play Mississippi State this year? I hope they do. No, but they do play Ole Miss early. Listen, man, it's not an easy start for them. I want to go to that game.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Yeah, that would be a good one to go to. Clemson they open with. They open with Clemson, though. At LSU, right? Yes. I'd like to be there, too. All right. You'd like to be at all of them. I would. I would. Two stars.
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