The McShay Show - The 17 Players We Think Could Go No. 1 in the 2027 NFL Draft

Episode Date: August 28, 2026

At this time last year, no one would have predicted that Fernando Mendoza would go no. 1 overall. So how many players are reasonably in play for the first pick in next year’s draft? Todd and Steve turn their keys on every potential candidate. Then, the guys share some of their favorite preseason FanDuel picks. (00:00) Welcome to The McShay Show! (02:16) How many prospects could actually become the #1 overall pick? (06:23) Top Contenders to be drafted #1 (13:20) Reasonable Possibilities (28:21) Fringe Cases (36:08) Longshot Prospects (44:54) Hail Mary Prospects (53:08) Our Favorite CFB Futures Nintendo: Power up your play with Nintendo Switch 2. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines. Host: Todd McShay Guest: Steve Muench Producers: Tucker Tashjian, Conor Nevins, and Daniel Comer Social: Abou Kamara Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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although I just feel like it's earlier this year. There's internal strife already going on in our draft room, if you will. A lot of people have a lot of different opinions. People are chiming in that aren't named McShea or Mench. We've been talking about this off-air so much that now all of a sudden we'd be like, why continue this conversation off-air when we can bring it on-air?

This year's class is different, man. At least it projects to be different at this point. There's a lot of excitement with the quarterbacks. There's a lot of excitement with wide receivers. There's a potential superstar, generational cornerback. There's some damn good running backs. There's some edge rushers that belong in the conversation. So instead of having this conversation offline, let's bring it online.

And today it's all about finding out what number, almost like a court of law, right? without a reasonable doubt, except today we kind of reverse it. Like, if there's a reasonable possibility, given the history of the NFL. We're going to test the limits of what that means, by the way. We're to test the limits of what that means. I'm certain you are. You're the fun guy. You get the nice beard.

Everyone loves you. I'm the bomb thrower. Grateful dead. Like, yeah, jam bands. Like, oh, he's relatable. He's fun. And I'm kind of the prick of the show, and that's fine, too. So I like suspended belief in reality, whatever it is.

It's not my favorite thing to do, but I'm here for it today. Okay? So I will play along and we will have fun. But I have a feeling that you're going to push the limits a little bit further than I am. And that's fine too. Here's the whole thing. There's a bunch of quarterbacks. There's some edge rusher. There's some wide receivers.

There's a cornerback. Maybe Mention's got a couple other guys. Maybe offensive tackles. We're going to go through and we're going to just basically decide how really. reasonable is it that this player could be the number one overall pick and what's shaping up to be an incredibly talented 2027 class. And I want to remind people of this, okay? Eight of the last 10 picks in the NFL draft at number one overall have been quarterbacks. The two other players that have been drafted, non-quarterbacks have been edge guys, edge rushers, defense events, whatever you call them.

Okay? That's important to note. Also important to note, really important to note, probably the most important note, probably the most important note I'm going to give you for this show. And I have to keep reminding myself of this so I can suspend reality a little bit. Fernando Mendoza, the number one overall pick in 2026, day two grade. We were probably the highest of anyone out there on them coming into the year, and we had them kind of fringe one, okay?

Right. Cam Ward in 2025, some scouts headed as low as fifth round grade, somewhere in the third. Nobody I talked to were like, yeah, lock first round. or when he left Washington State from Miami. Caleb Williams, we knew. Jaden Daniels, though the number two overall pick was like a third rounder coming in, right? Trayvon Walker, day two prospect, nice player,

you know, tough first to run. Georgia defensive lineman did his job. Number one overall pick over Aiden Hutchinson back in 2022. Go back to Joe Burrow. He was good. He was good at LSU the one year after transferring from Ohio State. he was not number one overall pick until that 2019 season, that magical season, arguably the best team in college football history, okay?

Kyler Murray was playing baseball, bro. That's another show, by the way, the best team in college history, but I'll give it to you. He was playing, he was, I think, the number nine overall pick in Major League Baseball, and the big question, is he even going to play in the NFL? Baker Mayfield, nobody thought he was going to be the first overall pick until I'm sitting in a meeting, and Herb Street's talking to maybe Schefter or something, there's like, I'm hearing the Browns.

Are you going to take them number one? So my point in telling you all of this and given the history is what seems unreasonable today can very easily turn out to be what the reality is come that last weekend in April. Okay. So here we are. Here's how it's going to work. Functionality wise, you're going to pick a guy. I'm going to pick a guy, right?

We're going to give our argument for. And I think the first few we can kind of, you know, motor through. car wash it because I think everyone will agree that they're likely at this point to be a number one overall pick candidate. And then as the list goes on, I pick one, you pick one. We defend our pick and then the other person gets to rebut. And then we make a decision after every single one. Is it a reasonable possibility?

Opposite of a jury, the murder case, or any kind of case where it's reasonable doubt. Is it a reason? Is there any reasonable possibility that this could happen? Yes or no. We'll collect the list. We'll hold on to it. We'll look at it later in the process. First player, I think, is if I think some others might go in a different direction with a common name.

I'm going to go Dante Moore. I don't think I need to sell this a whole lot. I want to remind people, Dante Moore, six, two and a half, 215, 215 pounds. Has some mobility, his game is pure pocket passing. There's some areas he's got to improve upon. I want to see some big moments carrying the team. I want to see cutting down on some of the mistakes, whether it's that pick six against Indiana,

or it's the, or what I see on tape when like when bottled up in the pocket, this like pressure moment, is he able to kind of not have that quick panic set in where he's, he has shown a tendency to make some mistakes. But my gosh, man, he delivers the ball on a cushion.

Some guys make you, work for it as a quarterback. We talked a lot about like Carson back back at Georgia, like the receivers had to work for the football. His receivers are like, they're flying private, they're getting picked up in limousines, they're going to five-star hotels, like, you know, he is, he, and in the Raiders last year, midway through their process from, from conversations we've had, like it was kind of, I don't want to say coin flip, but there was a strong discussion back and forth. If it's Mendoza and Dante Moore available in this draft, which way are we going? And a decision was going to be a tough one, okay?

So that, I think it makes it pretty easy to put Dante at the top of this list. Yeah, we're going to need to be quicker with that clock, Tucker, on these first three. I mean, we're going to, let's get through it here. Lenora seller, South Carolina, no explanation needed. No explanation needed. I mean, he just does things that other guys can't do. He's so powerful and strong in his ability to buy time of the pocket as a runner. And I think he's a better pocket passer than people give him credit for.

I think a lot of people realize he's in the running to be the first overall pick. There it is. That's all we need for this right now. Let's get it out. I agree with you. And he's going to go in the yes category. So we have two off the bat that are yeses. But I also, I think a lot of people

nationally would be surprised that it's not that Arch is in the second, your choice for the second most likely to be the number one pick. They'd be wrong, but I get it. Okay. My pick, third pick. I'm actually,

I'm going to go CJ Carr here. I think CJ Carr is set up for a lot of success this year. I think CJ Carr is overlooked. I do want to recognize he's just a red shirt sophomore. It's just his second season playing. So there's an opportunity to come back to Doder Dame the following season and we'll see how this year plays out. But you start to look at the schedule.

You start to look at two first round running backs going to the NFL a year ago. Now the onus is going to be more on CJ Carr. Great defense. I think he's going to kind of elevate as the season progresses. And he'll have opportunities for big moments later in the season, college football playoff. I think that's where he's going to go on this run.

I think he might be the Heisman trophy winner. I think he could wind up being the number one overall pick. It's precision over the middle. There's some things you can work up, but like layering the football, repetitive motion, understanding of the game. I think he might be the best processor when this season is over. I think when we look all around all these great quarterbacks,

I think we say this guy's got a better feel and can process faster than anyone else. I won't be surprised at all. If cars the number one overall pick when it's all said and done. Don't hate it. I'm with you so far. These are kind of the obvious guys so far.

But if you don't like me taking Manning at second or McShay taking him at third, you're going to hate this one. I'm going Terry and Mensa from Miami. I mean, look, where do we begin with this? He's a quarterback of the seventh ranked team going into the nation. He's got one of the best wide receivers in the country in Malachi, Tony. and we've seen this movie before.

Didn't we just see a guy go from Washington State and Cam Ward and turn into the first overall pick at Miami? Now, granted, I understand this. They are very different players. Cam Ward is more of a Houdini magician-type player where Ments is more of a processor, big accurate pocket passer. But I actually think his game translates to the NFL

a little bit better than Cam Ward Zib when he was coming out. Derry Mentsa do not sleep on him. I know he's a little undersized in terms of his weight, but he's got a good, accurate, great touch. The numbers last year, 34 touchdowns, six interceptions. I think he's going to have a monster year from Miami, and I think he's going to be in the mix to be the first player off the board. I love Mensa.

I'm not going to push back. Yeah. I know a lot of people want me to right now, and a lot of people are asking, well, what, I can't even take this seriously. I'm looking at other people's list. He's number one overall. or he's the number one quarterback.

I get where we are today. Yes, where we are today. And I think Mentsa is going to thrive in that offense. I think Mentsa is vastly underrated. So would I bet him on Fanduil right now? I'm not sure that I would, you know, hard-earned money on that, but I wouldn't rule it out. So I'm giving you a yes.

All right, I'll finally take Arch Manning with the fifth pick, I guess, right? Mm-hmm. Here's the deal with Archman. I loved how he grabbed his kuyans last year and just took this team over. I loved how he showed in moments that he overcame the rough start and that a lot of it was like too much on a young man, too fast expectations. I thought his eyes were a mess. I thought his feet were following his eyes, which were also a mess.

And the end result were a lot of off-target throws. here's why he's not higher on our list. But I want to beat this over the head of people. Right now it's our responsibility to talk about where he is in this process while also keeping an eye on where he can be. It will not surprise me in the least. It's 6 foot 5, 232 pounds, with that acceleration, that ability to make plays outside of the pocket,

that understanding and instincts for the game of football, that if he takes that next step this year, we're saying, like how did we not have him ahead of Dante as the first? But I am here for that path. But I also, I think it's important and I think it's our responsibility to share with people. He ain't there yet.

I think Arts would tell you he ain't there yet. I think Cooper and Eli and Peyton would tell you he's not quite there yet. They see the same misthroes that we see on tape. Arch sees the same misthroes. So it's been an offseason of working to get healthy. Remember, he had the injury and now he's healthy, getting his weight right, getting it, getting back in, getting, like, working on his eyes with his feet so that the ball placement can be better. And if the ball placement takes a big step this year, all of a sudden, he's absolutely in the conversation to be the number one overall pick. I truly believe that.

I'm with you. I think that ends the, now it's going to get interesting. Okay. All of these ones so far, there's been no really pushback. I'm interested to see what you think of the name I'm going to come with here. and I struggled. There's two names here, but I'm going to go

Ole Miss quarterback Trinidad Chambliss. I have concerns about the frame, but that's where my concerns then with Trinidad Chamblis. He's sub-six-foot. Is that going to be a guy

that a team's going to be willing to take a chance on just under six feet, by the way? Maybe he goes to the combine when he's six feet. That's going to be one of these ridiculous measurements

that we're keeping on like Will Campbell's arms. That's going to be something that people are going to keep an eye on. How big is he? Other than that, You want to talk about a great processor.

I thought the way he developed at Ole Miss last year and his ability to read defenses, recognize coverage, recognize where pressure was coming from, make plays with his feet, extend. And again, just the confidence in that kid.

I trust him in big moments. If he fails, it won't be because he doesn't have the mental toughness or the football intelligence. And that's a guy I would take a chance on. Yeah, Russell Wilson isn't a perfect comp, but there's some Russell Wilson,

like, yeah, all right, fine, he's 5.11 and a half, whatever he exactly is. Extend. I think Russell Wilson was a little bit coming out of Wisconsin, played a little bit more high-level ball, NC State, Wisconsin. I think he was a more consistent, efficient passer at the same point going into his last year at Wisconsin. I think Trinidad is maybe a little, although they're both dynamic. I don't know.

I don't think it's a horrible comp either. is what I'm trying to say. I think there's a, there's shades of there. And had, and had he not been the first sub-six-foot quarterback, Drew Breeze was like 6-607 or something, you know what I mean?

Like, Doug Flutie was like a, you know, cross the picket line. So like he was, he was the, he had to break the barrier, you know?

And so he went, what, third round to the Seahawks? Third round, right. But if we, you know, looking back on it, obviously,

he goes number one, overall everyone's yeah cool i yeah super bowl yeah so what do you say yes or no what do you got i say oh i say i say yes i say yeah i'm a champist guy i'm a chambo's guy sorry i should have started with that i'm i'm i'm with you we got more sellers car arched chambles mensa all off the board if you will right yes i don't think it's going to be a big surprise to you but i'm going i'm going with sam levitt before i even get into any other positions i'm going with sam levitt because this guy's flat out dynamic as a runner. He is brilliant extending plays.

He has an aggressive nature to his game that is awe-inspiring at times. He has a loose arm. He can rip it. He rips it rolling right. He rips it rolling left. He can rip it from inside the pocket. I think what's missing in his game is scheduling discipline. Yeah.

On schedule pre-snap. Where are my eyes to go? Can I learn in one year with me? with coach kiffin can i learn how to play within the offense and know when to then become the the dynamic playmaker i think there's some slinger in her in a man i see some like far of oh there's some slinger in a josh allen mahomes whoever you want to look like there's some absolute i don't have the onions that this kid does and i yeah i don't have the talent and i never had the talent but i had some onions. This kid's got onions, okay? And I think, I think an opportunity to play for a year,

do it. If he can do it in the SEC with scheduling, I always think back to that Mahomes first year as a starter, how different of a, like a human being. Like, I'm like, is that the same guy as I watched at Texas Tech? I'm not expecting that kind of transformation. But if we see steps towards that. I think there's an outside shot. I really do. I wouldn't, I can't rule him out. I'm yes.

And I'm consistent on this, I think. You know how I feel. He is way down my board in terms of where he stacks up against some of these other quarterbacks. And I don't even have a first round grade on him. But that's not the exercise. Do I see a path for this kid to get the first overall pick? Yeah, I do

because of all the things you said. As frustrating as he's been at times. And the Mississippi State tape, man, is bad. It is bad, bad. But if you're telling me that Lane Kiffin's going to take an inconsistent but talented quarterback, you know, from Arizona State and turn him into a guy who's in contention to be the first overall pick, I'm with you. By the way, I'm starting to feel like we're on the voice where we're like, we have to like hit the button and turn the chair around. And like some of those guys go out on the voice and like they are, they're not good, but you can see the talent. And that's what it is with Sam Levin. Like I can just

see the ability. So I'm with you. All right. You're up. Ready for this one? UCLA quarterback, Nico I Amaliava could be the first overall pick in 2027. Yes. 100% man. 100%.

UCLA was terrible last year. I mean, outside of the win for Penn State, it was a bad year. But Bob Chesdy's in town now. And it's a, it is a I'm going to be fascinated. I believe that program is going to be turned around by Chesney. The question is how fast does it happen? And I think when you have a quarterback like Nico Iamaliava,

who is wildly talented, it could happen quicker than people realize. And when I say wildly talented, look, he's got a, he's a tall kid, great frame, strong arm, all the arm talent in the world. But people, I think, maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like people underrate this kid as a runner.

He can scoot. He can move. He can extend plays. also tough. Nico I. Maliava, when we're looking at this, keep in mind, I'm going to get into this a little bit later, a lot of these guys can go back. Almost all of them can go back.

So we're talking about in a scenario where some of these guys go back. He has a great year. Things fall into place for him. I don't think it's out of the question that Nico Ian Maliava could be the first overall pick in 2027. All right, so we've had eight guys come off the board in this order. Dante Moore. They're all quarterbacks.

Dante Moore. Lenora's Sellers. CJ Carr, Darien Mensa, Arch Manning, Trinidad Chambliss, Sam Levitt, Nico I'ma Liaba. You've picked four? I've picked four. I'm going to shift things for half a second, and I am going to get a non-quarterback on the list, and I'm going with Jeremiah Smith. I want to preface this. Yes, I did the history lesson. I've kind of, I've lived. the history lesson. At no point in time during my career since I graduated University of Richmond in 1999,

has a wide receiver been the number one overall pick. You have to go back to 1996 with Kishon Johnson, okay? But Jeremiah Smith feels different. And I also want to recognize the fact like, okay, but McShay, if the team has the number one overall pick, they can move back, and they can still get Jeremiah Smith because all these great quarterbacks and the prices they could get. Yeah, totally.

That could happen. But there's also a scenario in which maybe Arch goes back, car goes back, saying goes back, like three, four of these guys go back to school, okay? Yeah. And maybe not dissimilar from last year. And by the way, like Clabnick's playing really well in training camp. So is Nuss Meyer. Ty Simpson's been awesome.

Who's the other? There's another one that we had. Oh, Drew Allers had a good training camp, although I'm here for that debate a little bit. But yes, Drew Aller's has shown a lot of, of course you are. A lot of promising things. But those guys disappointed across the board this last year, injuries, circumstances, and their own poor play. Yeah.

Right. So there's a scenario in which it isn't a quarterback. Maybe it turns out to be the biggest dud of all time, right? Yep. And then you're staring at what looks like the next Julio Jones. You know what I mean? Uh-huh. And the team's like, we're not getting an offer.

We're sticking here. The offer's coming from four spots down. We're not passing up on the next great. And we're just going to take Jeremiah Smith. And we all know what Jeremiah Smith. I mean, Jeremiah Smith is a different cat. Six foot three. Named captain at Ohio State recently.

225 pounds. It's going to run in like the high four threes explosive. Like we can get into some specifics on him, but we all know how great he is. And I appreciate the music. Here comes the clock. I'm a definite yes on this one, but I come with a caveat of,

I think you have to exhaust the quarterbacks before you take a position player. And I think there's one other one you should consider. And he wouldn't be the first, he wouldn't be the first position player off the board if we were doing odds. If we were creating our odds, I don't think he's the first position player off the board.

So that being said, moving on after Jeremiah Smith, the last quarterback that I think could go first overall is Jade Mayava from USC. And he's the last quarterback on the list for a reason. Okay, he's not the most mobile guy. But I also think he's just, he's a great thrower of the football. He's a natural passer.

When I threw on the tape, I was surprised at how much touch and his ability to make layered throws, his accuracy, he can move around a little bit. And if we're going through this, look, all of these quarterbacks that we mentioned in the top seven, including I, Amaliava, they can all go back. All of them can go back. Do I think they all go back? No, I don't. But they could all go back in this class that we're looking. And get paid handsomely. It keeps me up at night, Michet, because this class could vanish.

This insane quarterback class could just vanish in front of our eyes. Gone. They all go back. So in that scenario, do I have a higher grade on him than a Jeremiah Smith or some of the other players we're going to mention in the minute? Absolutely not. But he is a quarterback. And as you mentioned, eight of the last, I think it's eight of the last 10, 15 and the last 20 are quarterbacks.

And in those classes, the quarterback often wasn't our highest graded player. That was last year with Jeremiah Love. That was true. Kyler Murray, his year, 2019, Nick Bosa came out that year. We were higher on Nick Bosa. It's generally it's not, it's just a quarterback. That's what I'm trying to say. And so if that's the case, then I think you have to throw Jade Maya in the mix.

If we're going by that rationale, No. Actually, you know what? No. I'll come back to it. Can't happen. All right. Next up for me is Dylan Stewart,

Eddresser from South Carolina. I've got to be honest with you. I'm just going to shoot straight. Colin Simmons is a better football player all around. In fact, Janze Pierre is a better football player at Alabama. Simmons, Texas, Pierre, Alabama. All around. versatility, like down and down out versus the run, all that stuff.

But what gets you paid in the league is getting home as a pass rusher. And there's no one that can do it quite like him in this class. And I got to be honest, like he might wind up. If he takes that next step this year, it's six foot five, two hundred and forty-five pounds, teradactyl like, I saw it nationally. Have they had like four, seven estimated speak? Get out of here. He's like going to be like four, five, eight or something.

something. I mean, his takeoff burst and speed while bending the edge is extraordinary. I don't want to be hyperbolic. I don't know if I've ever seen it. I don't think I've seen a better takeoff. I'm not even like, I'm just being honest. I don't know if I've seen zero to whatever quicker than he gets there. I see a lot of Brian Burns when it burns at his best with the giants, like his best years. I see, honestly, I see. JPP, Jason Pierre Paul. Remember how freakish Jason, Jason Pierre Paul was for that Fireworks injury? South Florida,

doing like 10 backflips in a row. He's got a different level of athleticism for his length. And as he continues to grow into his frame. So as we've seen, like, it's more likely than an edge rusher is the number one overall pick than it is that Jeremiah Smith at wide receiver is. If you're looking at recent draft history, I mentioned off the top, the two players that are non-quarterbacks,

that have been draft picks number one overall are Trayvon Walker in 2022, and then you go back to Miles Garrett in 2017. Okay? So this one in a weird way, while Jeremiah Smith feels like he's in a class of his own, in a weird way might be a little bit more reasonable, but I think we could, I hope, I'm asking you, I guess, can we both agree that there is a chance, there's a reasonable chance that he could wind up.

being the first overall pick. Yeah, he would be the first position player, I think, that has a chance. I think ahead of Jeremiah Smith, because edge defenders are valued more than wide receivers, even though I think that what's interesting to me is I think Jeremy Smith is generational. If Dylan Stewart is able to take the next step, kind of stuff you're talking about with those tools, I think people are going to be talking about him in a whole different way come April. Yeah, I agree. The McShay Show is brought to you by Fandool.

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Shop Wayfair's Labor Day clearance now through September 7th at Wayfair.ca. Wayfair, every style, every home. I can't believe I'm doing it. I cannot believe I'm doing it. But when you fall in love with the player, you fall in love with a player. A cornerback has never been drafted first overall. Not once. And we're looking at all these great players out there, McShea.

But man, I love Notre Dame's Leonard Moore. And I think if you're going to be that guy, you've got to be a generational corner. And I think Leonard Moore could be a generational corner. And I actually thought when I watched his tape, I actually thought he got off to kind of a slower start last year and then just turned it on. And there's really nothing he can't do. And it starts with the man cover skills.

Can he stick to guys? I mean, he does not allow a ton of separation. I love that he's very comfortable with his back to the football. I think that's what separates good corners, some great corners. He's comfortable when he has to turn and run. He knows how to play through receiver's hands. Patrick, Patrick Sturtain? Patrick Sturtain, do you get, you get that?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought you were to say about where I thought you were going to make the point, you know, Sartan didn't go first overall. Stingley didn't go first overall. I'm trying to give the viewers. Maybe a lot of viewers haven't watched him on tape and get a six to what like one 97. Yeah. Long physical, but also smooth.

Like it's rare to have like those long physical guys who are also smooth who also can play off coverage, can play on coverage, instincts. Like kind of seven interceptions last two years, five, five and ten games last year. Like kind of got it all. right? And it's, I'm hoping you're going to give me the dumb and dumber yes where you're like,

yeah, man, that could happen. It's a one in a million and I can say to you. So you're saying there's a chance because I just think he's that good of a player. I think there's a chance, right? Eric Turner was the last true cornerback to be a number two overall pick.

As you mentioned, there's never been a number one overall pick at cornerback in the modern era of the NFL draft, which dates like almost 70 years now. I think, yeah, yeah. I want to say 1964. I should know that. I get sick and tired of hearing certain types with their information.

For all intents of purposes, it's never happened. Travis Hunter was a receiver corner who was the number two overall pick that the Jaguars trade up for, but that's not the same deal. Then you go to Jeff Okuda in 2020 is the number three pick. Sean Springs in 1997 was the number three picks. So you're talking about like a tiny, tiny list of guys who were even, picked in the top three overall, and none ever at cornerback at number one overall.

Okay. But if anyone's going to break the barrier, it seems like this guy with another great year for a great Notre Dame team, if things fall apart at quarterback, like you can't completely rule it out. Let's go back to quarterback. This one's going to annoy you.

Why can't DeMond Williams? Oh, no, no, no, no. You know what? Go ahead, make your point, and then I'll say no. more advanced processor and decision maker than I thought. 33 touchdown passes, nine interceptions through 15 career games. He's going to get another 12 to 15 games this year. It's going to be right around the 30 mark.

Quick trigger, a bunch of juice on the ball, slot wide receiver, like NFL slot wide receiver athletically. Right. In terms of like this suddenness, the ability to, you know, and the speed to go with it. Not calling him Tank Dell, but like, he is a guy that is going to give you headaches in a lead in now okay uh i saw a better NFL type passing ability out of him than i expected going into it now i'm not sitting here and saying

man he's he's ready he's like poll it but i'm also telling you that like jalen hertz wasn't that guy when he came out lamar wasn't that guy i'm also telling you this class has got a bunch of quarterbacks with with mobility sellers is a phenom mobility-wise on a straight line arches a train going down the tracks like a like the acela train in the northeast um leved is i told you how dynamic and explosive he is mensa moves around really well chambles that just go back to the two places how does that help the cause for how does that help the argument for williams what are we talking about here because if you let me finish my sentence all right i we go talking to my kids if you let me finish my sentence i don't like maybe sellers i

I think this guy's the most dynamic of the athletes of the group. And I'm also, and I'm looking at this and saying, just as you said before, a bunch of these guys could go back to school. And so I don't think you can completely rule out that he goes and plays his ass off. Washington gets into the college football playoff. He makes an unexpected run. And all of a sudden, you've got to go back to the tape and admit, you know what, make sure you were right.

He is a more advanced pastor than I gave him credit for. How tall is he? He's like Kyler Murray said. He's the same height as, as Russell Wilson was coming out. 5104. Do you think Kyler Murray is a better comp? Yeah. As a former first overall pick?

Okay. If they were in the same class, who were you taking? I got to see Kyler's last year. Asked me that in December. Fair enough. I think I would take Kyler. I'll just go on a limb and say that I would take Kyler. Yeah, right now, right now.

Sure. Yeah. Was that a good idea for Arizona? Doesn't appear to be, but Arizona made a lot of other really bad ideas. True. That's fair. It's not in a bubble. I get it.

But we also know that NFL decision makers remember, they keep receipts. And I don't think there's going to be an NFL team that's going to want to take a chance on a guy who's that height, whose biggest strength is his mobility and has some questions as a pocket passer. I don't think so. I'm a no on that one. How does this work, Dan? Does he just get to trump me with the no? All right.

Yeah, Dad. You don't get to do it to me, though. I like it. I think I'm going to go Colin Simmons from Texas here because I just think the positional value. We're talking about another edge. I'm with you. I actually thought I would have Simmons a little higher than Stewart before we watch the tape. And you're right.

I'm with you that Stewart's like the tools are just too good to ignore. But Colin Simmons is the second best pass fresher in this class. And what are we talking about? teams value them. You can't have enough of them. And even though he might not have Stuart type get off and that kind of ability, he's still a super talented guy

who can win with his hands and get to the quarterback. It makes too much sense for me not to take the second best edge at this point. Do you remember that draft with Khalil Mack it also had Judevian Clowny? And everyone was so enamored with Clowny's traits, but it's not a perfect comparison.

But you look back on that draft, and there were some people who were arguing hard, that Khalil Mack, if he played in the SEC, if he had the same hype. Yeah. And after watching him that Ohio State game early in the year, when Buffalo played Ohio, they're like, he can do it against anyone.

It's not his fault. He played at Buffalo. Right. It could be something like that when we get closer to the draft. Right? Where Dylan Stewart is just so physically freakish that you feel like you've got to take him because the good Lord only makes a few of these guys, you know?

Yeah, not a lot. But then you watch the tape and you're like, but the better football player right now is Colin Simmons. So I'm just that, I just want to throw that out there so people have an understanding of what we're debating with those two guys. I'm not going to rule it out. I'm going to give you a yes. This is where it gets really interesting.

It gets sticky now. I like it. Real sticky. I'm not going to say the names I'm concerned. considering so that I'm leaning one way or the other with you. Janze Pierre. Yeah. Yep.

6.3. 244. Plays everywhere. Versatility. Spends the most majority of his time, you know, on the edge, but left and right side. Can play stand up outside linebacker can play. He plays off ball linebacker at times. Great straight line speed, projected 4-6.

plenty of experience dropping into coverage. I talked about him the other day. I don't want to go on a big rant. This guy's an absolute coaching clinic. I thought he was just a pass rusher because he put up, what, eight sacks this last year and felt like he had big sacks and big moments. He had 15 tackles for loss.

He had 58 tackles total last year. The guy's all over the field. He does every little thing right. And so what if Dylan Stewart doesn't have the year that we expect? And by the way, Dylan Stewart, his sack production went from like six and a half to four or four and a half. Like it declined this past year. So what if like he just doesn't quite get there this year?

What maybe comes back? I don't know that that will be the case. But what if Pierre just comes out and has a monster year? I would, I think there's a, I don't know, I would look at these other quarterbacks and I wonder could it come down to like a Colin Simmons versus a Pierre and all of a sudden we're next year? Trayvon Walker was not ever going to be. First overall pick when Aiden Hutchinson was in that class. Yep. Now, the caveat is they didn't,

there weren't great quarterbacks in that class. Right. And so it's hard to imagine Adante Moore being available after coming back another year. And we're just going to take Janze Pierre. So it is suspended belief. But there are scenarios. Like, just to be clear about why I went through like,

so I wanted to go through this to be like, what were the scenarios for a non-quarterback going first? I think you could start off with all of those guys going back, right? Then you get into these like, well, there could be a trade scenario, but what if, and I really hope this doesn't happen? What if a great, a team that has a great young quarterback, unfortunately has like that Tom Brady situation where he blew out his ACL in the first game of the year? And the Patriots ended up being competitive that year.

But what if a quarterback gets hurt early and a team that knows they are set a quarterback has a terrible year because of it and they end up picking first. Do they make, and a lot of these quarterbacks go back. Now do you, like there's all of these things that could happen that are

unlikely and hopefully don't happen that could put you in a position where a position player goes first overall. Yeah. Go ahead. I wouldn't. I wouldn't do it. But I think that you have to consider

Texas wide receiver Cam Coleman here. I this could be a member marvis and harrison jrison junior versus malik neighbors Marvin harris junior was a lock he was the guy i'm not even working out of the combine i'm not getting measured i'm not doing any of that i'm marvin a harrison harrison jrison junior i gave identical grades to neighbors and marvin harrison jrison jr but you didn't the year before did you you had harrison junior i'm guessing way ahead of everyone right way way i think there's potential for the gap to close between these two. And do I think Cam Coleman's talented enough to be the first wide receiver to go first

overall since Keyson Johnson in 1996? I do. I love his tape. And if he can get, I mean, we've talked about this a little bit with Cam Coleman, but just go over it again. The quarterback play at Auburn was not great. And you watch the tape. You watch Oklahoma.

I think he had three catches for 88 yards and a touchdown of the Oklahoma game. I think he also got two pass interference calls. He dropped the ball. He could have gone for two-fills. and three touchdowns against Oklahoma's defense. That's how good that tape is. So it's unlike a wide receiver goes.

We've gone through a lot of names, but keep Cam Coleman, the wide receiver from Texas in mind. I'm going to, I might surprise you with this one, but I'm actually, I'm here to actually fight, fight it.

You're going to say no, okay? No, no, I'm going to say, yeah, I love this tape too. I think we're in for a special year with Cam Coleman. So I'm just going to give you a yes. Like there's a possibility in the world that he could go number one. Yeah. Even though it's a tiny percentage given the position and this quarterback class.

But yeah, if I'm going to say yes to some of these other guys, I'm going to say yes to him. My next pick is quarterback John Matier from Oklahoma. Okay. Wild. I get it. And what we saw last year after the thumb injury, no, bueno. Couldn't drive the ball down. And he has mature moments.

and like for as much brilliance, for every two brilliant plays, there's a maddening one, right? And I get it. Another year of maturity, second year in the SEC, I don't know what to believe when it comes to his mechanics

and what we saw at Manning Passing Academy and all the work he's put in to become the modern day, feet right, balanced, drive back hit. That's how quarterbacks are thrown now. It's a balanced golf swing of right here, there. Like, nothing gets outside the frame.

Changes arm angle a little bit, dealing with the thumb. What if he comes out in this underrated Oklahoma football team? And they go win 11 games during the regular season. And he is dealing. And you and I watch that tape at Washington State. When this cat is dealing, he's different. And I remember Baker Mayfield got hot at Oklahoma and led them to that.

And I was on the field of the Rose Bowl when they lost to Georgia. But my gosh, did I fall in love with that young man? And getting his ass handed to him, fighting, competitiveness, the toughness, the dog in him that most other quarterbacks you don't quite see at least as visibly

in the face of his offensive linemen, but picking them up, like, Mateer's got all that kind of stuff. What if he comes out this year and this mechanical tweaks that we said, he's got to change his mechanics. It's all we said. And then he came in the first year at Oklahoma.

Nothing was different. It was up in the air and flinging. And how is he creating this torque? And then all of a sudden he gets injured and they shut him down essentially. But he's so competitive. He's such a tough runner. He's such a great leader.

They decided we got a better chance to win with that guy who can't throw the ball down the field than we do with anybody else here. Now if he can throw it and he can rip it. So I don't know. That's my pitch on Mateer. I don't love the odds. I don't like the percentage.

But you have to consider it. I think it's a reasonable consideration to go with that, to think he could do it. I want to, I want to remind you now, we're at 17. Yeah. You've done well.

You haven't laughed in me yet. All right. So now you're up, though. Texas offensive tackle, Trevor Goosby could be the first overall pick in 2027 because, I mean, you went back for the last 10. I went back for the last 20 drafts for the last,

last 20 drafts, the five players that weren't quarterbacks with three edges and two offensive tackles. Hasn't happened since 2013 with Eric Fisher. I get that. I just think it's such a valuable position and to be blunt about it, Guzby's the best prospect at offensive tackle. I think he's the most consistent. He's gotten a lot of experience at this point.

If he could stay healthy, I think Trevor Guzby could be the first overall pick. I'd love to say no. If it's reasonable that Yonsei Pierre could somehow I'm with you on that one too, yeah. Then Goosby, yeah, I'll give you Goosby. Awesome. I'll give you Goosby, barely, barely. It'll have been a 14-year gap since an offensive tackle one and one overall.

These edges and wide receivers are absolutely these quarterbacks are outstanding. But, but yeah. But also remember this. Jeremiah Smith can go back, Cam Coleman could go back, Dylan Stewart could go back, Colin Simmons can go back. Leonard Moore can go back. And Trevor Gozby can come back. Go back.

It's going to be very interesting to see who declares this draft. I'm officially waving the white flag. No. Yep. I've spent decades, not years, building a reputation. I don't, while I trust everyone behind the scenes implicitly, I don't trust them to not clip something where I, I'm pitching fucking mess to maker as the next one off the board or whoever.

Well, I need the notoriety. I need the attention. So I'm willing to sell out. So I'm turning to you and I will sit here and I will listen and I will give you honest answers. And maybe you can talk me into it. You rip. We'll go who you got next. I'm going to go rapid fire.

Yep. With the, well, we'll handle it. Okay. I think Ole Miss defensive tackle. Will Eccles could be the first overall pick in 2027. He could be the first defensive tackle to go first overall since Big Daddy Dan Wilkinson did

in 1994. I just think he's that good. I watch his tape. He's every bit as good as Mason Graham was coming out of who was a top five pick. He's every good as Keenan Williams was who was a third overall pick. That's how highly I think of Will Eccles. He can win in whatever scheme you want to put him

You want them to tube gap? You want them to stack, locate, Chad, get to the ball carrier? No problem. You want them to be disruptive, get into gaps, big plays in the backfield and do that in a one gap scheme. He can absolutely do that for you, too. It's a good, hey, pause, pause. It's a good pitch. The elevator door just opened.

It's a good pitch. I think it's important for our audience to understand how good he is, but I'm giving you a know. What do you got next? If we're going to go with the other two wide receivers, why can't we consider Charlie Becker out of Indiana? If he has a massive year as a deep threat who can really, if he, we already know what he could do as a deep threat, right?

He improves as a route runner. He shows what he can do after the catch. Why can't it be Charlie Becker Jr.? I absolutely love Charlie Becker Jr. I actually think he's one of the 10 best players, maybe 10, 12 best players in this class heading into the year. We'll drop our top 50 in the next couple of, weeks, next week or so, actually.

He's going to be really high up there. No. Who's next? I'm going to lump three offensive tackles here that you're going to say no to. Fine. I don't care. I got thick scorn. It doesn't bother me at all. It doesn't bother me at all. Here's three guys to keep an eye on.

Iowa offensive tackle Trevor Locke. South Carolina offensive tackle Jerichich-Carrie's Peak. In LSU offensive tackle, Jordan Seton. I think Locke is probably the most likely of those three, because he's a little more refined, especially as a run blocker. But in Iowa's offense,

I always kind of worry about true past sets and there's going to be a little bit of an adjustment there. That being said, I think all three of those guys are big guys who move super well and have the natural ability to be franchise tackles in the NFL. Yes. Peaks got a lot of talent. It'll be interesting to see how he plays this year.

Yes, you see the bump. But I keep talking to people in the league and Seton's been intriguing since the start, but Locke is the name I've heard more of as the summer's gone on. There's two legit guys. They got an interior and they get Locke that are going to be like great starting offensive linemen in the NFL. So part of the reason why I think Iowa was one of the more underrated teams in the country.

All right, anybody else? Dan, I think those are yeses. Are those yeses, Dan? No, those are no. Those are nos. And this is the one that's going to really, really get under your skin and you're going to call, you're just going to call me out, but I don't care.

Oregon defensive tackle at Mari Washington could be the first overall pick in 2020. What's the fuck out of here? Dude, dude, I just made the argument of why a defensive tackle could do it. By the way, Wilkinson went first overall in 94. You made the argument. I said no. Echoes is intriguing.

91, 92, and 94 all defensive tackles first overall picks. I think we were in high school and we were in high school. Don't tell people that. Make sure okay, okay. The guy that went 93, by the way, was Drew Bletso. That being said, I do think defensive tackles are becoming more important in the game. People realize how important is to move quarterbacks off the spot. Now you can do it by kicking guys inside and I get there's a number

we're doing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I'm just saying, Amari Washington, the tape's not good enough. If you're going to tell me the tape's not good enough, I'm going to say you're 100% right. I understand the naysayers. He is inconsistent. But we're talking about a absolute freak of a human being who if he turns it on and can play at the level he does it in spurts like at that high level i don't know something to keep an eye on i'll keep an eye on it but no um of all those ones i'll be honest with you echoes and becker echoes beckler and lock i've had some intrigue the others you lost me on i'm going to let we we've got a fan duel futures we got to get to in a minute okay i love i love this time of year okay we've got 17 players

that we've ripped through of which is that 17 right i thought there's more than that um regardless 17 17 yeses sorry dan just chimed we have 17 yeses that we've got by my count we've got 24 guys that were in consideration kind of speaks to this year's classes i told you like the preseason and scouting, like some of the grades that I don't put any stock into, but like to see the difference in this year's grades compared and how deep they go before you even get to like 24 deep or something, before you even get to the highest grade from last year. This class almost has a full,

almost a full first round of talent before you get to a player who was drafted last year, okay, based off of like preseason grades. So it's awesome and we're all, we're excited about it. But I'm also excited about Fandual Futures, but I've got one last thing I'm going to throw to you because I'm surprised that we've gotten 24 deep and you did not bring up the name Mesta Maker. I did once in passing.

No, no, I'm not there yet. Okay, because I've talked to some other people who legitimately think he's a first-round talented quarterback, and I think there are, I don't. I'm here to be proven wrong, always. I'd be pumped if four weeks in we do a show, on, oh my gosh, Mestamaker's so much better than I thought. This is awesome, right?

Yeah. But I've talked to some people who view Mestimaker as a potential like Fernando Mendoza type rise this year. Yeah. I'm just surprised because I know you liked him a lot more than I did off of tape, so I wanted to give you the floor. Yeah, no, I just, like there's a difference between Indiana and Oklahoma State. I mean, there just is. Like, you're going to go to Oklahoma State. And I think there, I don't think there is that.

there's not that opportunity to make that kind of mediocre, mediocre rise or media, you know what I mean, that you are kind of arise. Yeah. Thank you very much for that. Yeah. I don't see it. I just don't, I don't see that him going that far ahead.

And I may have a higher grade on him than I do on some of these other quarterbacks that we talked about, but those other quarterbacks that we talked to have these traits that could get them to catapults. They have these opportunities that could get them to catapult ahead of them. I think he's more, I'm more confident about him being a day two quarterback than like,

then some of these other guys that are behind him moving up. You know what if that makes sense? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's just not as much room for growth there. I don't disagree. But I felt like, you know, with other lists coming out and some people I talked to

seemingly a lot higher on him than us, I thought it was worth mentioning his name. All right. Before we get out of here, we're fan dual guys. Everyone knows that. We're fan dual guys. at Fandul if you're if you're on on X

go get the app man like even if you like you don't love playing and like nobody's pushing you and gamble responsibly obviously but the app is awesome like I love going through in the for both NFL and college the futures you know win totals to make the playoff Heisman like I just I get right now like I need to play a game

And it's finally this week. We're going to see some college football. But I also, like, I need to, like, start feeling it. And when I get on the app, I start feeling it. They asked me to do my college football futures, and I was thrilled to oblige. Here's the ones I'm going to throw out to you, okay? Favorite top 25 team in their win total.

Going off the AP poll is what I did. I went with Oklahoma to win nine plus kids. games. I actually don't mind them at 10 after looking through the schedule. Oklahoma at nine, that's plus 130 when I posted this. What do you think on Oklahoma winning nine games, especially after I just gave you my path to success for Mateer? I don't hate it. I think that's a program going in the right direction if John Mateer stays healthy and that scares the hell out of me. But if he stays healthy because he's such a, I mean, he's such a madman. I don't mind that at all. next one was a kind of a sleeper team

a team outside of the top 25 win total that I'm hot on I told you a lot about Iowa and I'm still there I would love for them to name a quarterback the longer and I think maybe they did in the last 48 hours

every other other quarterback's coming up on the Pete Thammel read we're waiting on Iowa let's go it doesn't necessarily like we saw the quarterback play last year and they still won a bunch of games and we're in a bunch of games but still

I'd like I don't we play on playing pretty soon. Yeah. But my team actually plays in week zero against Virginia, I believe it is, right? NC State to win nine plus games. I actually like him at 10 plus games, and they're like 4, plus 420 or plus 430, but at plus 9 games for NC State,

you get Duke at running back, you get C.J. Bailey at quarterback. The lines are better. I'm hearing the schedule lines up really nicely. The schedule is insane. Yeah. You read the schedule the other day. I was like, I am hammering, hammering that. I think they're a dark horse in the ACC.

Why not? They could be the second best team in the ACC and could be lurking around the chicken coop at the end of the year. Just watch out for NC State. This is CJ Bailey. If you were to give me, who's your long shot? It goes on to have an unbelievable season. Like out of nowhere, out of nowhere first overall pick.

it might have been C.J. Bailey. He's got another year after this, but anyway. All right. To make the C... based off of odds, obviously, you can take like minus 300 and take Notre Dame or what, you know... Right. But find me some good odds that you can win a little,

get a little kick of a team that could make the college football playoff. I went with USC. This one's interesting. I think Lincoln Riley... I think Lincoln Riley's taking the beating and done the, ah, shucks, nice guy.

We're just getting better every day thing for a little while. I know Lincoln. I've sat with him for hours upon hours. I know many people who are around Lincoln. Don't be fooled by like press conference, hitting the doubles down the middle of the field. Yeah, no, I understand. This guy is an absolutely fierce competitor.

And I think he's heard enough and I think he's had enough. And I think, as you just outlined, they've got a quarterback. And my Ava, who's like, I think he's going to have a monster year. Can they replace the weapons is a big question? But it sounds like they got dudes. I don't know. I think USC plus 240 is intriguing. I'm out.

You got Oregon, Ohio State, and Indiana all in the regular season. And that does include at Penn State, which I like them to win that game. But, and then you also got Washington. I mean, their schedule is brutal. I think they're, I actually, I love the quarterback. I think their roster is talented from top to bottom. And I think you're right about Lincoln Riley. But I mean, that's just, it's too high a mountain to climb for me.

Okay, I'll remind you in November. To win the national championship, also including odds, but I'll be honest, we're going to reveal our power. This is your team, man. Preseason college football power rankings. I got Miami plus 1100, 11 to 1 to win. What do you think? That is, at those odds?

Yes, please. Yes, please. Just a little scratch. I mean, I just throw a little scratch. I like Oregon, like Miami's in the mix, man. Like, they're definitely in the mix. And then finally, Heisman. And I didn't do this based off of odds.

I just did it off of like, I actually think this guy's going to win the Heisman. I think he's the most likely candidate to win the Heisman. I've got C.J. Carr. I think Tucker might have given me an update on C.J. Carr. When I put it in, it was plus 700. It's somewhere in that range.

CJ Cardo to win the Heisman. In the mix, I don't hate it. I'm going Arch. I don't know what the odds are for Arch. If it doesn't even make sense, I just think Arch is the most likely to win it. That supporting cast, that program, that conference. Okay.

Arch is plus 850. That's what I was waiting on. It wasn't just an awkward pause or a pause for effect or some of the, that was quick. The tutoring that I went to at ESPN, But, oh my gosh, bud, bud. But he, the power of the pause. That's why you're the best of the business.

Yeah. Uh-huh. Now, plus 850. So, CJ cars. You did well today. I thought you were going to struggle with this exercise. I thought I was going to get yelled out a lot. I thought you were going to say, this is crazy.

That's not happening. Mention. I'm not doing this anymore. No fits. You didn't throw any temper tantrums. I'm proud of you. I'm on my best behavior. There you go.

I like this, this is a good McShay. I had fun. I thought it was great. I actually had an awesome time doing it. And quite frankly, like, it's good to every once in a while

look at this and be like, hey, reminder, Fernando Mendoza was not the number one guy coming last year. Yeah. Neither was Ward. Or Baker Mayfield. Or like a number of these guys. Like,

like more so, Trayvon Walker. If you look at the last 10 years, they were all like more than 50% about 70% if I go back and Fernando no Cam no Caleb yes

Bryce Young you could argue Trayvon no Trevor yes so that's two yeses Joe Burrow no Tyler no Baker no Miles Garrett but not number one overall

but but like okay Jared God off. I'm trying to think. Who's the other quarterback that year? I don't know coming in that he definitely was. Right. So we'll make it a three.

We'll give a couple maybe to make three. James Winston, there was a lot of noise and stuff. But like, yeah. Yeah. So 60% of the last 10 years, at least 60% have been guys that would be at this point in time considered dark horses. So it's a fun exercise.

I think it's cool. It's great. All right. It's great. Enjoy. Enjoy some week zero stuff. Have an awesome weekend. We'll see you on Monday and five stars much.

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