The McShay Show - The Best Wide Receivers in College Football Not Named Jeremiah Smith

Episode Date: August 21, 2026

Welcome back to The McShay Show! It’s a simple formula today: The guys reveal who their top non-Jeremiah-Smith college receivers are for the 2026 season, and Todd previews his early position ranking...s for the 2027 NFL draft. (00:00) Welcome to The McShay Show!(03:23) Top Wide Receivers not named Jeremiah Smith(11:08) What makes Malachi Toney so special?(14:18) Evaluating Cam Coleman(19:21) Scouting Charlie Becker(23:44) Dakorien Moore's potential(27:53) KJ Duff vs. Nick Marsh(32:00) Top 10 teams are loaded with WR talent(34:25) Ranking NFL Draft Eligible Prospects The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines. Host: Todd McShay Guest: Steve Muench Producers: Tucker Tashjian, Conor Nevins, and Daniel Comer Social: Abou Kamara Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All the talk about this 2026 college football season and the 27 NFL draft is about the quarterbacks, right? Quarterbacks need weapons. And there's an abundance of them, both in college football and as we look ahead to the NFL draft. Today we're going to focus on the best weapons, the pass catchers, wide receivers specifically in college football. And like I said, there's a whole lot to get to. There's just 251 days until the NFL draft. good? I'm great, man. Roll that thing, talk. Let's get right to it, Steve. We can do two different lists, and we can get to the draft prospects and what our preseason grades are, right? And we're
Starting point is 00:01:04 coming out late this month, probably very early September with our top 50 overall prospects. It's going to be the ringer.com slash McShay, where you got all of our draft content a year ago, and we'll keep you posted on exactly when it's going to, that's what we spent the summer doing is watching tape. We started with the quarterbacks, and you and I have been grinding ever since when we haven't been on lazy rivers out in Montana. But these wide receivers, stop calling the Yellowstone River a lazy river. Okay, ahead.
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Starting point is 00:02:21 is fascinating to me. And I was glad to see... It's a Yellowstone River. Your six-year-old daughter have some courageous young women and family friends around her. And also aunts and uncles, if you will, extended family that were pushing her to get over her own,
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Starting point is 00:03:21 fear of cancer. Register today at pmcf walk.ca.ca. These guys don't have a lot of fear. They work the middle. They get vertical. And we got a loaded group. The problem when you talk about wide receivers, whether it's college football or the NFL draft, is like we're going to get lost in Jeremiah Smith. And I get news for you. We got all season long to talk about Jeremiah Smith. We got the entire pre-draft process to talk about Jeremiah Smith. And there's a lot to talk about. But today's like everything but Jeremiah Smith. So I want to do a top five wide receiver rankings with you.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Okay. Excluding Jeremiah Smith. Love it. Who are the five best receivers in college football? Not named Jeremiah Smith, okay? I'm going to throw out the list that I've created for social. You can check it out at McShay 13. McShay 13 on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:04:15 At McShay 13 is on X. But I want to formulate it with you. agree or disagree. That list would start with Malachi Tony, who's not draft eligible. Sophomore, Miami. 48 hours ago, I would have maybe had him second on the list watching his tape. He is definitely that guy. Going back and watching it again and digging in, he is definitely number one on the list.
Starting point is 00:04:43 How excited are you to see him with Darian Menson? Not that Carson Beck wasn't. I'm excited to talk about him today. I can't wait for the season. Like, it's unbelievable. I'm going to go after that, Cam Coleman. Auburn transfer to Texas. Maybe 1A, 1B.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Maybe not even a 1-2. I'm with you. Okay. And then after that, I think it gets interesting. Agree. For my liking, the next two, this is my liking. And I want to hear where you would go.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And then we can try to formulate a combined effort, right? I would go Charlie Becker 3. Indiana-wide receiver. And Decorian Moore, Oregon, also like Tony, second year after a true freshman year, I want to see it a little bit bigger, a little bit stronger, savvier, you know, second go-around,
Starting point is 00:05:36 also with an awesome quarterback. The two best or the two most pure passers, the two purest of pastors, as he will, in college football, by my eyes, are Dante Moore and Darien Mensa, okay? Right. And they've got, they've, they've, they've got true sophomores coming in who are absolute dynamos at wide receiver. And I'm excited to see in their second year what they can do with those guys throwing to them. Obviously, Dante Moore throwing to Decorium Moore and then Malachi Tony catching passes from Darien Mentsa, the Duke transfer.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Would you, would you be different on, would Charlie Becker be three for you, Decorian Moore, four, where would you go? I would go Charlie Becker 3. I do think there's a significant drop off after the first two. Not a drop off, but there's more questions that I would like to have answered. I'm not as confident after this. I think there is a conversation to have. I would go Charlie Becker 3. I would have Decorium more in the mix, but it's a little bit more of a projection.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I think guys like KJ. Duff from Rutgers, who we'll probably talk about at some point. And Nick Marsh, the transfer from Michigan State to Indiana, it would definitely be in the conversation. All right, so round it out, who would be your fifth receiver? If we stuck with Tony 1, Coleman 2, Becker 3, Decorium Moore, 4, who would be your fifth wide receiver? Full disclosure, I would have gone Duff, then Marsh,
Starting point is 00:07:07 and then Decorium Moore at 6. If I had, if before we had talked to Stanford, Steve, but Stanford Steve kind of talked me into Marsh, Duff, then more. So it would be... So you're letting Stanford, Steve. Steve talk to you into water. I know. It's a terrible idea.
Starting point is 00:07:21 It's a terrible idea. I know. But I think they're really close. Those are two guys who are big body guys that move really well for their size. I think we're, you know, more so with Marsh in a tough situation last year. He's a little bit of projection because Michigan State just didn't, you know, the passing game was a mess last year. So, yeah, I think they're very close. And then I think McCore, Decori Moore is on the outside looking in, although there's a lot I like about his game.
Starting point is 00:07:46 arguably the most talented wide receiver not listed in those four is is Coleman Ryan Coleman Williams who agree most people remember him or identify him as Ryan Williams who came into this class right a couple years back it was it was Jeremiah Smith and and Cam Coleman and Ryan Williams were like I don't want to say one A one B one C but if it was one with Jeremiah Smith. It was 2A and 2B with those next two guys. And then you watch the Georgia game and some of the freshman year stuff from Ryan Williams. And it was like, Ryan Williams is the second best receiver, maybe in the country right now,
Starting point is 00:08:28 but he's the second best receiver in that class. And then last year happens. 14 drops out of, it was like 11% of like 100-something targets. And 11% drop rate. And I went back and I watched every single drop. and some of it was, he wasn't there for the business over the middle. Some of it was, I thought he got his eyes around late, you know, and some speedouts and in-breakers.
Starting point is 00:08:55 There was a confidence that deteriorated with him catching the football, but the Alabama star is still very much a star, you know, and it seems like he's got a New Jersey number. He's got a new last name. And we're hoping to see the older version, the freshman year version, but a refined, more polished version of him. But I don't have a lot of confidence, even though when we'll get to the draft rankings later,
Starting point is 00:09:21 he's going to be higher up on the list and maybe some of these other guys. But I think you have to keep Bryant Westco and T.J. more from Clemson in mind when you create this list. I think you have to have Marsh in mind. Duff is the guy that nobody knows out of Rutgers. And so he's probably not going to crack a lot of top five wide receiver list, but I promise you NFL scouts are talking about him.
Starting point is 00:09:42 maybe is the third, fourth, fifth wide receiver projecting to 2027. Then you get Eric Singleton, who's now at Florida, undersized explosive weapon. What's Wingo going to look like? Similar to Coleman Williams, Wingo's a dude, man, at Texas. But they had to go get K.M. Coleman because they can't rely on Wingo to be the guy, you know? And so, but Wingo, when he gets that ball in his hand and has a little, bit of a runway is like a six three receiver he's a he's someone you got to deal with you have Mario craver who was part of that that conception craver law firm at texas a and m last year they were
Starting point is 00:10:23 absolutely awesome i get news for you Isaiah satania when when the quarterback at oklahoma couldn't uh john mature couldn't throw the ball down the field and and dion burks got rendered i don't want to say useless but kinda for his standards it was all satania because he was a he was a uncover quickly explode after the catch guy, right? He's back with Mateer. Nick Harbors is a physical freak. He's right up there with Feldman's freaks list. Like what he can do,
Starting point is 00:10:52 but he's still developing as a wide receiver as we go over here three. There's dudes everywhere. Did you put Coleman Willis? You put him in your top five? Coleman Williams? Yeah, sorry, what am I talking about? Coleman Williams. Did you have him in your top five?
Starting point is 00:11:04 If I'm going to be honest, you want me to just be honest, True Serum? Yeah. The fifth best wide receiver entering the year, even though he's not as talented as Coleman Williams. He doesn't have the size of his teammate, Wesco or Marsh. He doesn't have maybe the explosiveness of a singleton or Cittania.
Starting point is 00:11:24 The fifth best wide receiver in college football coming into this year is T.J. Moore. I really believe it. I love it. I really do. That's good. So let's go back. Yeah, let's start the beginning.
Starting point is 00:11:38 If Tony's our number one, receiver not named Jeremiah Smith. What makes him so special? I think it starts with the competitiveness. I mean, this dude is going to block. He's going to go over the middle. He's going to make plays after the catch. Now, it's hard.
Starting point is 00:11:54 It gets tricky when we talk about what makes him special. It's not one thing. I think there is a play that Miami runs that is unstoppable because of Malachi Tony. He lines up the slot as he often does. And he either one runs a whip route, a shallow cross, or if you recognize his zone, just sits over the middle. I don't know how you defend this play, because his ability to stop and start on a whip
Starting point is 00:12:18 route is devastating versus man to man. Trying to stay with that dude, getting in and out of breaks, good luck. Now, when you add that shallow cross into it, you're going to get on your horse anytime you see him start to break over the middle. So when he breaks back outside on that whip route, it's even harder to defend. Then you add just the intelligence level on a third and three, you need a first down. and he recognizes that those linebackers are just sitting there and he can sit over the middle and make a catch from third and three.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I mean, I just don't know how you defend that play. If I were Miami, I'd run it all day. Like just run the same goddamn play every time because how are you stopping Malachi Tony on that play? And then after that, he's going to make something happen after the catch. And what I love after the catch for small guys, there's not a lot of dancing, man. He's instinctive, he's explosive, he has good contact balance.
Starting point is 00:13:05 He can split defenders and take it to distance. he can break tackles like he did on a third and seven play against Ole Miss and the playoffs where he looks like he's going to be stopped dead to rights well sure to the first down marker breaks the tackle and gets there and then you add the element of this that he's not like he's a one trick pony that you can only run that play or only make up that kind of a play he can run downfield routes too he tracks the ball well he can you know he's not going to win a lot of 50 50 balls downfield but not for lack of trying or lack of competitiveness so like when you put all
Starting point is 00:13:37 of these things together, the explosiveness, the intelligence, the competitiveness. I don't love little receivers. I, or smaller receivers. I shouldn't call him little. He's not little. But I like the bigger guys on the outside are going to make place. Some of the other guys we're going to talk about in a minute here. I love Malachi Tony's game.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Yeah. What's not to love? And the fact that he came in and was so polished and so, like, and such a leader. Ready to go. Ready to go. It was remarkable, you know, absolutely remarkable. And I just, like I said, I can't wait to watch Mensa now, you know, come in and see the instant rapport between those two. Because he's the type of guy that just makes your life easy, whether it's the short, you know, the quick game, the screens, being where you need to be.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Zone be there. Sure, no problem. He's going to be there. Over the middle, I'm about to get hit and I might lay you out. I might put you in a bad spot. Yeah, I'll go get it. He's like, he's a dream. He's a dream.
Starting point is 00:14:39 You need me to block my ass off from my teenage. I'll go do that too. I'll go up at my size. He's a better blocker than Canne Coleman is at this point. Let's go to Cam Coleman. All right. And I recently did his evaluation. 6.3, 210 pounds runs a 4-4-5 estimated by National Busto, you know.
Starting point is 00:14:59 He's faster. He's faster. I tend to agree. He's entering into his first year at Texas. third college season, okay? He's got just 93 catches the last two years, 1,300 receiving yards. I want to give a comparison. Mackayle Lemon last year had 76 catches for 1156. Skyler Bell at Yukon had almost 1,300 last year. Jeremiah Smith, who we talked about is everybody but had 1,243 receiving yards last year. That's a two-year span with quarterbacks. They could not get him the
Starting point is 00:15:31 football. And it was hard at times watching. So I can't imagine what it was like for him. And I hear a lot of stuff about Cam Coleman. Like, you know, there's like attitude and there's frustration and he, is he going to become a pro this year and all that? Like, okay, fine. But I don't know that there was a receiver that I, there wasn't a receiver I watched on tape this year or even last year where I remember like, okay, a drop happened, a mistake happened, something negative, a negative play occurred early in the game.
Starting point is 00:16:00 And you talk about amnesia. In fact, for Cam Coleman, it was the weirdest thing. It was almost like, not only was it not amnesia, it was like, it was a motivation. It was like a fire was lit under him. If he made a mistake, he wound up going on to have one of his best games of his career. And there's something about that attitude and the belief that he has. Also, my dude, and let's be honest, Arch is an awesome athlete. Arch is big.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Arch is strong. Arch is fast. Arch can make all the throws. but he'll make his receivers work, even in his best games. He was making receivers go work to get the football. Do you think there's more outside of, you could say, Jeremiah Smith, but this is the, besides Jeremiah Smith show,
Starting point is 00:16:50 do you think there's a receiver in the country who's more equipped to go and take a ball thrown behind him or have to go up and get it or track it down than Cam Coleman? No. He's the guy. because he's got that 6-3 frame. He's got this acrobatic athleticism to him.
Starting point is 00:17:10 His ability to attack and adjust to the football in the air is just, it's remarkable. Yeah, there's some inconsistencies on tape. Few too many focus drops last year. Like the Missouri game, he had a bad one with 701 first quarter,
Starting point is 00:17:24 right down the left rail. He had another one who gets Oklahoma. Two in that came, yeah. Yeah, Oklahoma, the double move down the right seam really stands out. But the mental, toughness and the ability to not let anything fester. Growing up,
Starting point is 00:17:38 it was all, Frank D. Felice, I told you, four fingers to, hey, boys. Compound, compound mistakes. Compound, he doesn't have compound mistakes.
Starting point is 00:17:50 One mistake isn't going to lead to two or three, okay? So that's going to be awesome to watch. Third receiver on the list. Hold on one second. Yeah, yeah, go. One second. I knew all those things about Cam Coleman.
Starting point is 00:18:04 He's a little better route runner than I expected on. Yes. For a guy that tall, he's silky. He's, he is silky. And I couldn't get, it's early for comp season. It's early for comp season. I kept seeing AJ Green, man. Same frame, same way he moves out of breaks.
Starting point is 00:18:22 You know what's fascinating? Tell me that. I wrote, I wrote this. This class is very interesting because one of my favorite wide receiver classes ever was the competition between AJ Green and Holyfield. Jones. And I'm telling you, I'm going to have a higher grade. Interesting. Jeremiah Smith than even Julio Jones, who I think had like a 96th grade coming out. But the higher grade I had that year and call me wrong, if you want, was one number higher.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I think it was in 97 with AJ Green. I remember Julio Jones, he had like a broken bone in his foot and he came and ran at the combine because like those two were head to head battle. right and i'm not saying it's going to be that with jeremiah smith and in cam coleman but i'm not saying it might not it's interesting it's interesting and one of them reminds me like jeremiah smith game if you're trying to find the like the closest NFL comp pastor present it's julio jones yeah and i see a lot of a j green in cam coleman that's that's a great point made by you mitch let's go yeah char yeah just to go back to your point too glides up this is what from my notes Scounder report. Glides upfield, obvious second gear, but also this impressive suddenness and stop-start ability for his height. He shows the full ability to run an NFL route tree.
Starting point is 00:19:45 He wasn't just a two or three trick pony, as some other guys are. And maybe I think what the perception is with Cam Coleman. Charlie Becker, talk to me. What do you got? I'm a little concerned about the lack of production until the Penn State game. That's why I hesitate with Charlie Becker a little bit and why he's not maybe in in the conversation with the other two is he's not quite as twitchy, but man,
Starting point is 00:20:07 this might be the best vertical threat in the country. He is, we just talked about Coleman and I agree with you, but Becker's up there, man, in terms of the ability to track and adjust strong hands in the air. We saw it time and time again on back shoulder, but he's just a guy that can go up and get the ball. I also, for a guy who's not overly twitchy,
Starting point is 00:20:28 I like the way he gets off the line. He knows how to get off the line, get into those routes and get downfield. man. That stood out to me as someone who go in at the line of scrimmage at his size. And then if you're not going to be overly twitchy is that that route runner, I think the two things that really help him are one that he's physical. He can separate with his strength and his size. And then so like when you're looking at that, there's that ability. And then guys fear him. His ability to take the top off keeps defenders on their heels, which gives them a little
Starting point is 00:21:02 bit more of margin of error, a little more space to operate underneath. Again, I hesitated a little bit because it was such a good run. And Ohio State fans are going to have nightmares of this guy. Penn State fans have nightmares of this guy. I just believe he's going to build on that momentum, continue to develop, and he's going to end up being a top five receiver in the country this year. Yeah, and I think he's going to wind up being the third or fourth receiver drafted. I really do.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I believe in this guy. He is a hard-charging, physical, strong, wide-referral. receiver who also like if national and bustle headed by four four or five for cam coleman they got becker at four four zero also six three two hundred and seven pounds so this guy like it's you see it on tape i don't know what the 40 is going to be but i know it's going to be fast and i know on tape he plays fast also like absolutely natural catching the football this guy's like from the focus to the body adjustment um contested catches 67 or 69 percent 13 of 19 opportunities and contested targets last year.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Yeah, the sample size is not as big at some of these other guys. Yeah, and we talk about to his route running, too. Like he, yeah, he's not sudden, but he's everything else. And when you know how to run routes, it all works out. You talk about him now stepping up,
Starting point is 00:22:24 elevating to that role. And with Nick Marsh coming in and get an opportunity to play with a quarterback, in a system. Josh Hoover is entering that situation. It's like this combination. It's like the devil and the angel on Josh Hoover's shoulders, right? Because Josh Hoover is an absolute Texas gunslinger.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Josh Hoover don't care. Right. You know, like, I love watching Josh Hoover's tape because it's like, but now he goes in that same, that same assembly line that Mendoza entered into last year where it's like, you know, mesh. eyes and he's very comfortable with those sorts of things and all but also he's got this this inner demon if you will and i only speak from experience because i promise you i there's this thing where it's like i want that i want that yeah you got to know when you're allowed to take it right and so now but i got now i got but coach coach i get i get marsh i got becker there could be some all
Starting point is 00:23:29 Work the mesh, read the corner. You know, like, so it's going to be fascinating to watch that development and how it, you know. There could be some all-time ass chewings early in the season for Josh Scho. There could be so classic. Mendoza was a choir. He fell in the line. Like, you know. I got this sense Hoover's going to do all the right thing wants to, right?
Starting point is 00:23:54 Right. Yes. I agree. I think there's going to be some like headsets. Like, yeah. It could be some Nick Sabin link Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Kiffin. Right. Yeah. I think it's going to be awesome. Two and five Canadians will hear the words you have cancer. That's why every step and dollar raised matters. On September 19th,
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Starting point is 00:25:00 the ability to separate. Another guy that wins at the line of the line of scrimmage. And then when you see him get to the top of routes and the change of speed, the change of direction, he's quick. He's not the biggest guy, but he is so quick getting in out of breaks. He is a natural hands catcher, I think. I wanted
Starting point is 00:25:16 to ask you about this with him. He's a young kid. I think he was asked to play a bigger role than he was expected last year. With Evan Stewart being injured in the preseason. With Evan Stewart getting hurt in the preseason and you thought Kenyon and Sadeek maybe would play like a much bigger role at times.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Early on, especially step up. I felt like there's some not finishing as a route runner at times. There were a couple times on tape that I felt like he could have accelerated through. I know you're quicker than that, man. I've seen you. I know you were sprinter in high school. I know you can run. I know you can take the top off.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I know you can threaten after the catch. So there was a couple times where he got out of his breaks and it felt like the ball wasn't coming his way, maybe. not a lot. I'm not, I don't want to like turn us into something. No, I hear you. I think it's a young player learning
Starting point is 00:26:05 that you have a quarterback that will find you who's not necessarily going to go one, two and then run and maybe you've played with that in the past. I thought there were a couple times you just,
Starting point is 00:26:15 you know, like there was over the north, in the northwestern game going over the middle one time. If he runs through, he's going to clear those linebackers and I think beat the safety and make a play there.
Starting point is 00:26:24 And it looks like a bad play by a Dante Moore. So there was a little bit of that. him missing four games, not being the biggest guy. I hesitated a little bit, but man, talent for days in the right quarterback and the right system to get it out of them. I don't think there's a big difference in the player between Decorian Moore and Ryan Coleman Williams. In fact, I think there's a lot of similarities to their game. I think they're both undersized.
Starting point is 00:26:49 I think they're both lean. I think there's a physicality that I'd like to see. And I'm talking specifically, like that freshman year from Ryan Williams. who was named Brian Williams at that time versus freshman year decorium more, where it's like, I'm cool with excusing some stuff. He just got out of high school ball. Like his mind is spinning. He doesn't know what he doesn't know yet, but he'll produce some big play.
Starting point is 00:27:18 We're not relying on him, even though Oregon kind of had to. Like, I'm not relying on him as an evaluator. I'm excusing away some things that I'm not going to excuse away in year or two. Correct. So does he have a Ryan Coleman Williams year? Or does he come out and he takes that next step, right? That's what I want to see. And you would like to think, although Ryan Coleman Williams had Ty Simpson, who looks like the best quarterback, rookie quarterback in the NFL after one preseason game,
Starting point is 00:27:49 he had a pretty good quarterback throwing to him. But now you got Dante Moore in your second, a second, I'm obviously playing. second year with him. So you would, there's an, like you started this whole thing. There's an expectation of growth. I want to see a little more physicality. I want to see a little bit more consistency. I want to see being on the same page a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Last year was just about raw talent going out and being the dude. Now it's about I've got to, I've got to be a better version of that, right? I'm more excited than concerned. I would say that. Oh, way more. Way more. Way more. Way more.
Starting point is 00:28:28 But when we're comparing him to other guys, and he was more productive, I think. I think he was more productive than Charlie Becker, but Becker was a third wide receiver. DeCorian, despite those four games' miss, was kind of the guy. But if he makes the leap we think he will, it's going to be pretty awesome to watch, right?
Starting point is 00:28:49 Yeah, yes. What is it about Nick Marsh outside of Stanford, Steve, that makes you think, Well, Tim and Duff are the same. I think Marsh is more of a fluid route runner, although I'll say this about Duff. And I'm interested to see what kind of grade you gave him because I know you evaluated him from the draft.
Starting point is 00:29:10 We're having a college football conversation, but sorry, I'm going to muddy the waters a little bit. I really want to see what you thought about Duff. I think they're, I mean, look, this is one of those situations where it's hard to evaluate a guy when they're in that situation. So if he comes over, out to Indiana where I think they're going to be a more efficient passing attack and he gets
Starting point is 00:29:30 more chances to make a play. I think he's going to be more productive. And there are times where Nick Marsh is a he's not as big as as KJ. Duff, but he's a big body guy. He can make 50, 50 plays. I think he does a good job of getting, you know, leverage as a route runner. You see some flashes of how tough he can be to tackle after the catch. And I prefer these bigger body guys. So that's kind of why I'd have him a little bit higher. Decorian Moore is probably 511, 195, whereas Nick Marsh, is I think around 6-2, 205, 2-10, something like that. I should probably look that up and be more accurate with it. But he's a bigger guy, and that's kind of what I value.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah. Again, I just go back to T.J. Moore in my evaluation. And maybe it's just because I want to scream from the mountaintop and be like, hey, guys, he's one of them, too. I'm not saying he's better than Marsh. I'm not saying he's better than Ryan Coleman Williams and what Coleman Williams can be. And hopefully this year where it feels like he's turning over a new leaf. As I mentioned before, jersey number change.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Coleman Williams from Williams. It just feels like he's ready to reinvent himself and go back to what he was as a true freshman. And everyone's ranking Westgo higher than T.J. Moore. And I get that because Westco's 26, two and a half, 184, 4, and can absolutely fly, right? T.J. Moore at Clemson, and let's see how the quarterback situation is.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Dabo typically does a lot better when the expectations are not like last year and we saw how that thing played out. But T.J. Moore also is 603-2, verified with NFL scouts, 6.3 and a quarter. He's 194. His teammate, Westco is 180. He's a 4-4-5, right? Yeah. And I'm watching him. And he is a big play generator, right? 33 explosive on 97 career catches so far. He, Westgo, And West goes, like, get vertical down the field, go make acrobatic. Wingo, I mean, Moore, T.J. Moore is after the catch.
Starting point is 00:31:41 He is so, like, he's got this vision about him. He's just, there's this unusual naturalness about he catches the ball, and that's like an afterthought on the run, you know, like, it's, and a lot of times you're like, don't, don't try to do B before A. Like, he doesn't need to worry about A. He's got catch the ball and plucked transition. He's on to B. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:02 And like 300, I looked at like three, basically 400 of his 837 receiving yards were with the ball in his hands last year. Half of his, basically half of his receiving yards. So he's one of those natural pluckers on the run. Explodes up the field. I love his vision. He's got the shiftingness to him, but also silkeness to him. I just think he's a great player. And I only, like, I actually think he challenged Mansour Delane.
Starting point is 00:32:27 as much, if not more than any other receiver. And he didn't like to have a lot of big... But he actually... He forced Mansour Delane to pay attention and to have to, like, give everything he had. Got his attention, yeah. He got his attention. Yeah, so I'm excited to see...
Starting point is 00:32:45 And I don't know what it's going to look like for Clemson. We'll see how this year plays out. And Davo sometimes will shock the world, right? And in that conference, there's some room to shock the world. But what I do love about this group is I transition here a little bit. This AP poll, we just covered extensively on Wednesday with Stanford Steve, right? Almost every one of them has an absolute guy, like a real one at Widerston. Makes sense.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Yeah. Ohio State sitting in number one in the AP poll, you got Jeremiah Smith. Oregon, Decorian, Moore, we just talked about. Georgia never does. Notre Dame never does. They're three and four. I got it. I shouldn't say never. They rarely, that's not what they major in.
Starting point is 00:33:27 They major in defense, offensive lines, running the football, tight ends. And they'll have a George Pickens roll through. They'll have, you know, but even a Malachi Fields with all his ability was never going to be like a high producing wide receivers. Just not what they do. This year could be interesting, though. They got a couple Ohio State transfers, Notre Dame did. But that will be interesting. But then you get to Texas with Cam Coleman and then also can wait.
Starting point is 00:33:54 I'm interested to see now, Wingo, hey, you're supposed to be the guy. We had to go out and get another guy. What do you have to say? Coleman Williams, Ryan Wingo, and Bryant Westcoe should all be on this list. They should, talent-wise, all be on this top five list. And the fact that they aren't. Correct. That's it.
Starting point is 00:34:16 That is a, that's a. But sometimes it's a great motivator, right? Yeah. Indiana is sitting at six in the eight people. We just talked, they got two, two dudes. And if a wide receiver factory, Indiana now. That's what, that's what they're doing now. They're going to have four in two years.
Starting point is 00:34:33 It's like Alabama with like the four, like Jerry Judy, uh, rugs, Devante Smith. Right. Ohio State Alabama in Indiana. Yeah. Miami Malachi Tony, right? Texas A&M, I at least mentioned Craver coming back. Ole Miss.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Let's see. Yeah. That one's going to be interesting, right? Yep. And already the results out of San Francisco is Jean Desaigne is the next Puka Nakuwa. Right. And then Oklahoma sitting at number 10 with Satania. So as much as we're talking about these quarterbacks and how awesome they are,
Starting point is 00:35:14 and we could go down the top 15, you know, top 15 AP, and they're littered with awesome quarterbacks. This year's wide receiver group in college football is pretty awesome, too. I do want to mention what would the rankings look like at wide receiver, and I just finished up the receivers. You're doing some other positions. I'll just give you a sneak peek into what you're going to find on the ringer.com slash McShay.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I'm not going to give you the grades. I'm going to make you go there. But we've got Smith at number one, Jeremiah Smith at number one. I've got Coleman at number two, Cam Coleman. Charlie Becker number three. Those are guys that all have legitimate, not like late first or like mid to very, very early first round grades for me coming into the season. Then you've got this
Starting point is 00:36:00 kind of group of late first, early second fringes, and we saw last year, by the way. Coming into the year last year, we're like, I don't know if any of these guys are true, legitimate first rounders. We gave some 91s, some 90s, some 80s, some 89s, right?
Starting point is 00:36:15 Yeah. There are five receivers taken in round one, seven in the top 40. So if we have, typically what happens is there's wide receivers because underclassmen leave and younger guys start to grow up. Opportunities change, especially with the transfer portal and NIL. This year's class could have seven wide receivers in the first round. So when I mentioned that there's kind of fringe later going into the year, Coleman Williams goes and has the year that
Starting point is 00:36:40 he's capable of. He's going to be a mid-first round pick, maybe earlier. Bryant Westco goes and stays healthy for this full year coming out of Clemson. He's going to be a top 20, top 25 pick. And has a good year staying healthy. T.J. Moore, I just told you all about him, the other Clemson wide receiver. KJ Duff's a guy big. KJ Duff is the guy that nobody knows nationally that's going to wind up being a first round wide receiver coming out of Rutgers.
Starting point is 00:37:05 And I'm excited as the season progresses, we're not going to talk a ton about him. But as we get into that pre-draft process, you better believe that he's going to be in that discussion as a top five wide receiver. So those would be my one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, top seven wide receivers coming into the year. Looking forward to the NFL draft.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Good group, man. Loaded. Loaded. Duff is productive, too, man. I think, like, it's interesting. Yeah, go ahead. He's over 1,000 yards. I think seven touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I can bring it up right now. Duff was seventh in the country in receiving yards per game. It was 90.3. He had seven receiving touchdowns, average 18. He averaged more than any other receiver above him in the top six in terms of receiving yards. yards per game.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Average 18.07. 1,084 yards and did it all in just 60 catches. Crazy. And I want to see him do it. Now, some of that's the thing. One of my hesitations with Duff is that he inflates numbers against maybe a lower level of competition. He can just go off and have monster games.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Whereas when he gets against maybe the better teams, but that's tough, man. When you're at Rutgers. He's listed at six, I think in the national he's like 6-605 something, 225 pounds. Yeah. He looks every bit of it too on tape. I mean, he looks every bit of it.
Starting point is 00:38:35 It's going to be fun to watch him this year. Yeah. All right, this is a good Friday show. Let's get in. Let's get out. Everyone, enjoy your weekend. We are just, we're steamrolling towards the college football season, and we're pumped.
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