The McShay Show - The Big Board: First-Round Locks, Finding QB3, and Post–Senior Bowl Buzz

Episode Date: February 2, 2026

Welcome to The McShay Show!​ Todd and Steve are back to debut their new Monday show, The Big Board. In today’s episode, they’ll run through the first-round locks, Todd’s early quarterback rankings, and the latest post–Senior Bowl intel.0:00 Welcome to The McShay Show!3:45 Big Board: First Round Locks29:30 Senior Bowl takeaways and buzz1:01:20 Finding QB3  Learn more and join waitlist at ScoutMotors.comThe Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Host: Todd McShayGuest: Steve MuenchProducers: Tucker Tashjian, Conor Nevins, and Daniel Comer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's our debut on Netflix. Mench, don't choke. I was born to be on the big stage, baby. That's the spirit. Just like weekends were made for Mickelope, Mondays from now on are made for the big board. And today we're going to go through first round locks, some draft buzz coming out of the senior bowl,

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So the McShay report is out, a big one today. We're celebrating a lot. We're fresh on Netflix, first episode ever on Netflix. We're excited about that. Kind of the kickoff of the NFL draft now on this show. We're back home.

We got a lot of tape to study, a lot of reports to write, but we got a lot to share as well. I'm excited to share some of the buzz and I hate buzz. I hate when everyone says buzz and I keep using it and I don't want to use it. Like it's Intel. It's conversations that we have with friends in the league and kind of what's going on in

their building and figuring out what we can share, what we can't share and and also contextualizing all of it. So we'll go through some of the buzz. In order to, speaking of contextualize, in order to contextualize some of those risers and maybe the top prospects from the senior ball, I went back on some of the. Sunday and kind of did my updated top 32, not with grades, not necessarily like going back historically and making sure all the grades line up. But just who are the top 20 players in this draft?

Okay. And I want to go through that first before we get to the Intel and then the QB3. So first of all, all of this plus a lot more and a lot of the newsy stuff, the risers, the top 50 prospects, the guys who are like the cream to the top guys from the Cueb3. senior bowl. It's all in the McShay report. Today on the show, though, the video on the McShea report, by the way, looking good. Like that element. Looks nice. Just Google the McShay report. Subscribe if you don't already subscribe. We appreciate everyone who's been jumping in the last few weeks. It's time to go. Next few months are going to be wild on the show. And in the

McShay report, we're excited and hear for it. Let's start with the first round locks. and this is not necessarily tied to the senior bowl because I'm not saying there are maybe a couple guys that we'll get to that I think played in the senior bowl and I thought there were a couple of guys that utilize a senior bowl week of practice to cement their spot in a round one.

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I'm not sure. I'm not sure he's a lock. Okay. Fernando Mendoza, quarterback from Indiana, we all know that he's going to be the number one overall pick to the Raiders, right? After that, some of the position players, and what's interesting about this class, and we'll get to this in a minute

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motors vehicle when it comes out. We'll get to that in just a second, though. The reason I bring it up, and I want to talk about it, is some of these guys are not positions, you know, positions of need, like the high priority positions, right?

So Arvel Reese, off the ball linebacker from Ohio State, who can work as an edge, but is not, he's not like Micah Parsons yet. He's not, you know, you, You go back over the years, there have been some guys who have played off the off ball linebacker who've been Jalen Walker last year, another example coming out of Georgia, right? I wouldn't put him in that classification yet.

You're drafting him as an off the ball linebacker who can wind up being a, you know, provide value as an edge, right? Jeremiah Love, running back Notre Dame. David Bailey, position of priority, edge from Texas Tech. Caleb Downs, another one of those guys. So you got an offball linebacker, running back, and Caleb Downs at safety from Ohio State. All right there in the top five, three of the top five, if I had to put a board out right now.

So let's get into it right now, okay? I want to talk about these non-positioned value guys. As we, maybe it's age, maybe it's wisdom, I'm kind of turning the page on how important the numbers are. I don't want to throw out character and durability. They're hugely important. But like at the end of the day, who are the best football players? And last year we thought two of the best football players,

whether it's top 20, top 25, regardless of position, one of them for me was Trayvion Henderson. And now I get it for the Patriots, right? Ramadre Stevenson has been like the ball. He's been the pounded guy. I told you I went to that Bill's Patriots game. And I thought it was, is Henderson maybe injured? Like, first couple series, it's just pounding away with Ramandre.

But then all of a sudden, Travion comes in. It's a screen pass here. It's an outside run. Hit it for like 70 yards touchdown. His value to the Patriots, even though it's not the work. you would think of for a back that was taken in the second round has been enormous. And I wonder if you start to see in the NFL, like guys that are drafted early at the running back position, even though you don't love the longevity of them, I'm not worried as a

GM about the second contract yet. Give me those first four or five years while they're still young and they get a lot of juice. Safety is the same thing, man. You loved Nickyman Worry. I was worried about him until he got drafted. Mike McDonald, we all, we said pre-draft. That would be a great fit. What a great fit that would be. And all of a sudden, ding, ding, ding, I can't do the draft. The chime.

The chime as well as, as well as some people can. But even before you loved E. Menwaring, why don't you tell everyone what it is you loved about? I think people got clued in on how talented he was at the Combine. But you loved his tape dating back to, August of 24. Yeah,

I had him as a first round guy going into the 2024 season. So it was the height weight speed as the first that's going to

jump out to you. He's a unicorn of a human being. He's faster and bigger than everyone else at that position. I think the tendency was to say he's

a box safety, and I think that's when he's at his best as when he's playing close to the line of scrimmage. He is a little type, but I also think

he's instinctive and he moves well in coverage. And guess what? He has 11 passes defended and an interception this year. He was excellent in the NFC championship game. 81 tackles. That was a concern. Look, that

was, I thought that was a fair criticism of his game that he didn't tackle as well last year as he did the year before. But, I mean, those long arms, his ability to wrap up that frame, I was just betting on this kid, hitting. And of course, Mike McDonald's history and knowing how

to use that kind of a player, it was a perfect fit. I mean, it looks like he's a 35th pick overall for safety. That's pretty good. It still looks like a steal for the Seahogs. Yeah, and so it's a different animal when you're drafting, like, late in the first round with the safety. Kyle Hamilton was a perfect example, although I don't know if it's a...

Different players, but yes, when we're talking about Caleb Downs, like Kyle Hamilton, Nikki Menwry, like they were drafted a little bit later. Hamilton was one of the best five players in that. I actually think I finished with him third on the board that year. Even after he ran, like, what do you run, like a four, five, six or something? Too slow, man. You can't play safety at 4, 5, 6. Can't play.

And I don't think Caleb Downs is going to wow anyone. My guess is he won't run at the Combine. He'll run at the Ohio State 40, which is notorious for downhill and 39 yards, is what every scout says. And he'll run like a 4-4-4 or something. But he's not going to wow it is. And maybe he won't even run that. But my point is he's not going to wow anyone with his size, his length, his speed. But my gosh, this is tape good.

I mean, the instincts, the playmaking. ability around the box, playing deep middle, they kind of found a sweet spot for him as that versatile defensive back. So I'm curious to see where that value is, right, for both Jeremiah Love and for

Caleb Down. So yeah, it's just go ahead. What's interesting with them, especially when you're looking at the running back position last year, I think there was a lot of talented running backs, even though Genti was clearly the number one guy. I think that there's a bigger gap between Jeremiah Love and

next running back in this class than there was last year with Genti to whoever your second running back was. There's a, Marian Hampton. I think there's a, yeah, there's a massive gap between one and two in this class. So if you want that elite running back, you're going to have to take love earlier than I think the most people consider taking it back. Yeah.

And it has been fascinating to see like with these Super Bowl teams, the impact as rookies, a safety, a running back that they've had on their team. So with all that said, and with our appreciation to Scout Motors, and as much as I like to, you know, get us involved, and I'm just dying to see Mention in a scout Terra ripping around New Hampshire from the mountains to the coach.

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All right. So with all that aside, So going back to the big board, if you will, as it's a big board Monday here in the show, and it will be every Monday between now and the NFL draft in late April. Mendoza, Reese, Jeremiah Love, David Bailey at Edge and Caleb Downs are the top five. No issues with them being first round locks on. That mirrors my top five exactly, which I hate, but it does. Okay.

After that, this is where the wide receivers and offensive tackles really get involved. You ready? And again, chime in when you have a problem, when you say, I'm not certain, or maybe these guys are going to be a little later than you think. I know Mackay Lemon, Carnell Tate, both wide receivers from USC and Ohio State, respectively. I don't think there's a big gap between these wide receivers, by the way. I told you, I watched more of Boston, Denzel Boston from Washington on the... Oh, we'll get into that in a second.

And I really like Jordan Tyson, too. So those are all guys that I have here in the top 20. And you'll see in the top 13. They're bunched together. Let's see how they work out. Let's get more information. Let's finish up the tape on them. But I've got Lemon at 6, Carnell Tate at 7.

I've got Francis Maui Noah at offensive tackle from Miami. I told you there's wide receivers and offensive tackles at number 8. Then I've got Jordan Tyson, wide receiver from Arizona State, who I just mentioned. Ruben Bain, another Miami player at Edge. Spencer Fano, Utah offensive tackle, your guy. Monsor Delane, the LSU cornerback, and then Denzel Boston from Washington. So those four wide receivers all bunched between six and 13 and the two top offensive tackles, Maui Noah and Fano coming off the board at eight.

and 11 respectively. I've got a mostly positive reactions to this. My receivers, I think those are a little too early for the receivers. I think I'm kind of on an island looking at some other stuff around the World Wide Web. But I do think that's a little early for those guys. And I do go Tyson, Tate, Lemon, so slightly different rankings. Both of them, all three of them are in my top 15. All three of them are going in the first round.

So I want to be clear about that. I'm not saying anything there. Welcome to the Boston Party, McShay. welcome to the Boston party. You've now lapped me. He's your guy now. Because I have him like in the 20s, low 20s, and you have him here now at 13,

which I actually love. You know, maybe I've been too low on him. Maybe that's the problem I've been with him because he is an outstanding player for a guy that big. He's a prospect that people should be excited about seeing. Interesting to see how he tests and all that. But the tape is outstanding.

Just maybe flew under the radar playing for that Washington team this year. So that's exciting to see. I have Maui Noah behind Fano. I just think if you think Maui Noah might be a guard, I think Fano is definitely a tackle. But it's close. They're both really good. I have the same grade on those guys.

No real complaints. All of these guys, to me, are locks to go in the first round. Because I ask you something, are these the guys that, because you kind of mentioned about like going back and resorting, are these the guys that you have first round grades on? Do you have like a list of how many first round grades you have? or you still working through that process a little bit?

It's the Monday after the Senior Bowl, which is always a tricky time. It is. It is. And I think you get a little, the pendulum swayes a little too far on some of the Senior Bowl guys, right? And then we'll come back down to Earth. But I didn't put any in the top 19, okay?

Okay. I feel good about giving first round grades to all these guys. Okay. I think this is about where. It's about the number, right? There's probably like 19 to 21, 22 first round grades of this class, I think. Oh, I don't even know that there are that many. Oh, really?

Maybe. Let's keep going. Let's see. Okay. This is where I have, so we're down to number 14. Edge, Akeem Messador from Miami with, with Bain, had some really good conversations about both those guys with some NFL directors. and like, I saw a mock draft this morning where Messador's in the second round.

I just, I don't see it. I was, this is one of the things I was going to say. I'm glad you brought up. I saw the same mock draft. I don't, I don't know. I mean, I guess anything could happen, but I don't want to live in a world where that guy's not a first round pick. I don't understand when you look at the production of the tape and the motor and just everything. Something about the age.

I can't believe the age hurts someone that bad. Yeah, and some, some past durability. stuff and all that. Yeah, he hasn't banged up a little bit. Then I get to Sunny Stiles linebacker from Ohio State. Grades seem to be skyrocketing on Sunny Stiles. I like them a lot. I just don't know if I can get on board with like top six or seven player in this draft. Vega I own the offensive guard from Penn State, Jermad McCoy, cornerback from Tennessee, Kenyon Sadeek, tight end Oregon, and Peter Woods, Clemson Interior Defensive linemen.

Those are the 19 guys, and I'll give you the 20th guy, to round it out in a second. Those are the 19 guys that did not participate at the Senior Bowl that I have at the top of the board, before we get into any Senior Bowl guys. Any of those guys, from Stiles, is it Eone from Penn State? I always call him Vega.

I just go with Vega. I feel like other people call him that too. The mass whole way to get out of the muck. And he's such a good player. Like he deserves it. I will say this. I do think he's, I think he's an excellent player.

I do think that. I think this is way too high for him. I think that he's more of a back end of the first round player. I don't think there's a big gap between him and the Oregon offensive guard of Manuel Pregnon. As a matter of fact, I have them with the same grade with Pregnons rank slightly ahead of him. It'll be interesting to see how that changes.

This is one of the great things about this time period is it's the most important and productive period between the Senior Bowl and the Combine is now we really get to start stacking players and we'll start watching guards back to back to back. Not that we don't do it over the course of the year, but now it's really concentrated and focused and I want to see those two guys back to back.

I think he's a first round guy. I just don't think he's at, you know, I think 16's a little rich for me. I probably wouldn't have them in my top 20. where would you have Sadiq last year? Obviously, we had Tyler Warren. Oh, it's such a good question. Right?

We had, we had, um, Coast and Loveland. The Coaston Loveland coming out of Michigan. Yeah. When went before Warren, which was a surprise. Went to the Bears, and then the Colts swept in and grabbed Warren. Would you have had a tight end three? Uh, I don't, I, I think it would be between him and in Loveland as tight end three.

I don't think Tyler. I don't think it's close. You think that Loveland would have been two and Sidney could have been three? Absolutely. And I had almost identical grades on Warren and Loveland. I mean, I just, I love them both. I like Sadiq a lot. I don't want this to become, I just, there was a competitive.

We're talking about first round tight ends. We're just, it's a nuanced conversation about first round tight ends. But go ahead. Why would you have Loveland ahead of, uh, Sidique. Length. I think they're both length and quite honestly

instincts, route running, separation skills. Loveland was special as a separator. Warren was bigger, stronger, versatile, did a lot of, and like him throwing a pass and snapping the ball and all that, like that doesn't really

apply much. But just a unique athlete. And his separation came late. but he had just such a good feel for finding soft spots and zones and getting open as we saw as the season progressed in Indianapolis. And after the catch, the physicality, the running. Now, Sadiq after the catch can be dynamic in his ability to flat out run and to get like a crease and go. Sadiq can stretch the field. I just don't view him as reliable as reliable.

I'm not saying he's not reliable. I'm saying, yes, there's some special catches in one-handed and diving, and he came on the second half of the season when he got fully healthy and was like, a fire lit and off and running. But I trust love. I trust Loveland and Warren at the same points in their career. Right. I know how talented Sadiq is.

I just trust Loveland and Warren. A lot more coming out of Michigan and Michigan. Penn State than I do Sadiq coming out of Oregon. I think that's fair. I mean, I think he had six drops according to PFF this year. The Sadiq did. And I don't even know if it drops as much as it is as part of it.

As much as it is like the separation, attention to detail, the little, like. So again, like absolutely a first rounder. No problem. He's going to go somewhere in the top 25 at worst, maybe somewhere in the top 20. Be the first tight end off the board, all those things. I'm just not sleeping as easy after I use a first round pick on Sadiq as I as I would have been if I were Ryan Poles or Chris Ballard as GMs of the of the Bears and Colts respectively last year drafting Loveland and Warren. That's fair. That's fair.

I probably I would probably put Sadiq. I think he's in the mix. I would have him as the same grade as Loveland for me. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. But that's okay. Yeah. And then Peter Woods

I really would talk about Peter Woods The Senior Bowl, man. What's happening now with Peter Woods? Like I don't, I'm not sure that this is the end of the slide. I'm going to be honest with you. I think he could be following you. I just because the disappointing season. And on top of that, you just went to the senior bowl

and you could say whatever you want about Caleb Banks being disappointing there, but he's still a mountain of the human being who had flashes of looking really good. Not to talk about, not to mention Lee Hunter, not to talk about maybe the depth of the class is starting to look at a little bit better and you're saying, are we going to take a chance on the guy in the first round? Or do we think we can get, you know,

the great exercise that you do with me all the time, Mench, would you rather have player A and player B, player A in the first round of player B in the second round or player C in the first round and player D in the second round? That exercise. The combo drill. Yeah, when people start going through that, teams will do this drill and they say,

we can get this player here and then a defensive tackle that we might really like in the second round. But who you get in the second round at defensive tackle? I would have to go and look. Let me pull it up. Well, it depends on what you think. We're going to get into this more right now.

Yeah, so just to... Yeah, go ahead and do that really quickly. Lee Hunter would be my 20th player. He's the first guy from the Senior Bowl. And maybe I don't want to say overcorrected, but maybe the pendulum has swung a little bit too much, and maybe he's not quite that high of a graded, player, but I would have Woods and then I still think Peter Woods is one of the 10 most talented

players in this draft. I also thought one of the 10 most talented players in the draft coming into the year was T.J. Parker, the Clemson defense. I don't know what the hell went on Clemson this year. Truly. It's, it's, yeah. Too much talent for that. It should be studied. That lack of production and what happened. It's just like when I was talking to a couple scouts who were getting ready to go interview Garrett Nussmeyer. All they could talk about was I want answers.

What happened? Not putting it all on him, but what happened? It's like Drew Aller's going to have to answer those questions. And a lot of those Penn State players. How do you as a leader on a team allow this to happen? How does your production dip in your quote unquote contract college year? And so with T.J. Parker, he showed up.

at the senior bowl, and he was awesome. And you saw the length and the straight arm power and driving offensive tackles back. And he said, there's my guy. That's what I scouted in July and August last year coming into the year. That's why I gave him a top 10 grade. And so we got to see it apples to apples with all these other defensive ends

and guys who were playing really well. Guys like Zion Young from Missouri who helped himself a lot. guys like Derek Moore from Michigan helped himself a lot. But Parker just like there's a power element to his game that is pretty eye-opening, you know? Yeah. And I wish Peter Woods had taken that opportunity to go down to Mobile. Do we know if he was eligible?

Do we know if he was eligible to go to Mobile? Aren't they all eligible now? I thought you had to have some kind of academic standing where you were on course to graduate. I want to, I just, and I wish you were, I looked that up earlier. I'm just briefly looking at it. He was only there for three years.

So I don't know. I want to be clear about that. I want to be make sure we're not. I'm not even putting, I'm just saying, I wish I had the opportunity. Right. So just to be clear about the point you're making. Yes.

And maybe we can, we can, I'll text Drew, Fabiana with the senior bowl and find out if that was a possibility. But I'm just saying, I wonder what that would have looked like. I hear you.

You're not wrong. Nothing tells me we would have walked out of Mobile if he was eligible and chose to play, saying, oh, yeah, he's the guy we thought he was, you know? Yeah, I mean, Parker just did it, so why not? Let me throw this out of you. Like, you don't have Cade McDonald from Ohio State in your top 20. I don't think he gets out of the first round. But if he does, and you're telling me that I have a chance to get that kind of a defensive tackle in the second round.

I mean, we're talking about Kristen Miller from Georgia, I think is a very good player. Not on the same level. I'm not saying that. I'm saying when you're doing the combo drill, when you look at this, Grayson Hulton was unbelievable. I think he's a day two guy from Oklahoma. I thought he was awesome.

I think he's awesome on tape. I know you like him. Yeah, I do a lot. A good week in Mobile. Darrell Jackson, Jr., Tim Kean, the third. These are all players that you're looking on day two, you know, in those middle rounds. Like, I'm starting to think to myself,

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or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut. All right, let's go through this drill to finish up the round one locks. I'm not saying these guys are locks, but what I'm saying is I thought these were the best players at the senior bowl. This is an important conversation to have right now. Yep. That might surprise you a little bit. These were the guys, I always say this at the end of every senior ball.

Typically by the end of Wednesday, which is the second day of practice, you're like, oh, yeah, he's one of those. Because there's a lot of good players there. And they're all competing their asses off, right? But there's always these guys where you're like, oh, yeah, he's different. He's the dude. He's the guy. He's the guy at that position or he's one of two guys.

Like, there's, there's, oh, it feels like somewhere between like five and maybe a great year, like eight or nine guys where you're like, yeah, put them like, wreck those guys up, stack them up, like put them in a separate class. And now let's talk about all like the day two guys and separate, you know, do like different drills of like, all. These are day three guys who really improve. These are the guys that I think are locked top 50 prospects. That all help themselves this week that I think we're different than everybody else there. Okay. Lee Hunter

I mean when he fires out with leverage which he did a lot of this week whether it's one-on-one drills or or in team Lee Hunter's combination of quickness power motor is different

he's devastating versus the run and he's shown a lot of pass rush ability for an interior defensive lineman and I thought he showed even more than I saw on tape at Texas Tech because you get those one-on-one opportunities. He was different. I'm going to surprise you with the second one

because he wasn't in my top three or four guys coming in. He was in my top 50. I thought the second most impressive player and the player who belongs in the top 50 that helped himself the most where it's like, man, he is different, even better than I saw on tape. Malachi Fields wide receiver, Notre Dame.

Yeah, this is, this is a, this might be, I, this, I hate when this happens because I've liked Fields all year. I feel maybe and, and, and I think he might be wide receiver five in this class now. I feel like he might be a pendulum guy. I think this is a pendulum guy maybe. This is a guy that we're watching the swing maybe too far to the other side. He's six foot four, 218 pounds with long arms. That one catch that he had was unbelievable. Unbelievable.

And it showed something that nobody else that that game could do and very few in this class can do. Agree. So tell me what you walk into the GM's office and he's going to ask you two questions when you're trying to pound the table for a player. Tell me what he can be. Right.

That would be the first thing that I cite. That's what he can be for us. And that's hard to find. And then the GM's going to follow it up with how could this go wrong? Right? And I would say to you, okay.

McShay, what do you always say to me about big, big receivers making a lot of contested catches? Why are they doing it? But this is what made me fall in love of them more. You think he's going to separate

from NFL corners that well? I think he tempos routes and I think he's smoother than a lot of people that I anticipated. The way he tempoed his routes, how professional he was in that regard, how smooth he was in a, out of break. He made it look easy at

6-4-2-18. And catching the ball over his head, that catch radius is just it's a dream. For any quarterback at any level who's ever thrown the ball to have that security blanket? It's a nice, it's nice to have.

And again, just to keep this all in perspective because I know people will go crazy and say, like, McShay thinks Malachi feels is the first overall pick and mention thinks he shouldn't get drafted. I think he's probably a top 50 guy. I don't have him in the first. round. I would I would I would I would love to get him in the second round. I think that's a home run pick in the second round. I'm not sure he's a first round guy. Well I just mentioned

I just mentioned all the all the wide receivers right. I'm trying to let me go through a list here. I know there's a list I can pull up. I just mentioned like I like that you've finally picked a big receiver though after claim you basically over the last two draft cycles you have stamped and claimed every slot receiver that's any good. They've all been your guess. Yeah, I keep it in perspective, Munch. Come on.

But when you look at this year's receiver class, my goodness, it's five times better than we ever anticipated in August when we started watching these places. I mentioned the four off the top, right? I mentioned McCoy Lemon, Carnell Tate, Jordan Tyson, Denzel Boston.

They're all going to be top 20 picks in my estimation right now, okay? Then after that, you have this another really impressive group. And I think those include, but aren't limited to necessarily. I think those include if you're excluding Malachi Fields for a second. And throw in some names,

but I'm talking about the Casey Concepcion, Chris Brazel, who I'm really high on, the second coming out of Tennessee, Zachariah Branch. I would throw Chris Bell in that, depending on how his medical checks out. I would put him in there. Do you say Jeremy?

You say your guy Jeremy yet? No, Jeremy Bernard is in there. I'm just scrolling through. I think that's pretty close to what that tier is going to look like, I think. Jacoby Lane. Antonio Williams. You watch. Antonio Williams is going to work out well.

He's going to wind up in the top 50s, my guess. Okay. From Clemson. I got him just outside it. Casey Concepcion, Brasel, um bell bell all those guys

yeah Bernard it's a good group Dion Burks is on the outside the OLLI on that shout out to Stugats but he's outside looking in there but that's kind of that next tier

okay which we just listed off like six six or so guys yeah which one of those guys is better than Fields uh it's depending on what you're looking for. I mean, that's going to be...

Hey, give me a small guy, Munch. Give me a small guy who's better. Branch is, I mean, as a after the catch guy, it's not even close. I mean, Zach Ryan Branch is an absolute weapon as someone you can get the ball

in his hands and watch him go. So is Concepcion. So that's Concepcion's like that. I can't bring up Concepcion's name because every time I talk about how much I like him and how well he uncovers, you remind me that maybe

he doesn't like to get hit. You said it. I did. I did text that and I do think that, but I also think he's a really good player. Chris Bell is the most fascinating of them all to me because my understanding is that if he was healthy, he was going to run an outrageous time

and he's a guy that's going to probably be in the 220s. And if you're looking at an apples-to-apples kind of big frame receiver, Chris Bell and Malachi Fields would have been, if both were healthy, would have been a great conversation in my mind. but as is now, I probably give Fields the Edge coming off a great senior bowl

and someone I really like on tape. I'm also told Malachi Fields was absolutely like inspiring in his interviews. But you, yeah, which, yeah, I heard. Which is hard to find sometimes at the wide receiver position.

It is, it is. You know, as we talk about Chris Bell and what his NFL comp is with AJ Brown and like, there's a lot of handfuls at wide receiver. So maybe, listen, the opposite of a handful.

I'm just throwing it out there. No, it's a good exercise. It's a great exercise. I actually think Malachi Fields like won't shock me if he sneaks in the late first round. That's where I'm going on the path. You just provided the path. And having the conversation, I see the path.

I'm not giving him a first round grade. But you're right. There's a path. There is a path for Malachi Fields going in the late first round. It would not be stunning and it wouldn't be like that's a terrible pick. All right. Other guys that I think the cream rising to the top of the senior bowl, all top 50 picks.

Colton Hood is next. cornerback from Tennessee. It was not a perfect week. I'm not going to sit here. Like there were a couple times turned the wrong way, but then he learned from it. Like,

he's, he's, he's, he turns the wrong way a lot on tape for me. I, I, I, I,

he's big, cold and hood's, yeah, he's long, sorry, he's fluid, smooth, fast,

competitive as hell when the ball's in the air. And I know, yes, there's like, but I watch him be coached up and then like next rep learning i hear you i thought he was different the way he moved from all the other guys there yeah i don't think he had the we he did all right let's put it this

way let's let's let's be honest and i wrote this in in the uh you did newsletter i'm not saying what he did there was like oh he separated himself oh he like he had an awesome week he didn't have an awesome week the way lee hunter did the way t j paris or those edge guys, Zion Young, Derek, Moore. But just as an evaluator, watching Colton Hood, I see a starting cornerback in the NFL. I get it. I see a guy who's man-to-man, competitive, smooth, all that stuff.

So I would put him in that group, even though I didn't want to like applaud him for having the best week, you know? Yeah, and I got to recognize maybe that's my bias, too, of that. a high opinion of him going in and then if he doesn't dominate, then all of a sudden, maybe I'm hurting him more than I should have based on three days of practice. So you've got to be aware of all that. T.J. Parker,

we've talked a lot about already and his traits what he did. I thought, I think he's, I actually think he may have played his way. If he winds up as a first round pick after being viewed as maybe potential top 10, top 15 coming into the year, and then kind of like scrunches, up the piece of paper, you know, and thrown it across the room during the season.

Went from 11 sacks to 5, 24 to 20 to 25. The exact opposite of what you want to do is a prospect. If he winds up hearing his name called on that first night of the draft, it will be because of what he did in Mobile. Like completely shifted all the negative momentum, right? I agree. I think it's more probable than not that he gets into the late first round at this point. I do too.

I do too. Good for him. Couple more guys. Max, go ahead. I can't. I just, I swear to you,

Ian Achor. Is that, Ian Achor? I just, I swear to you, Max. And then a, let's go,

I want to listen after this show to how he pronounce us. I swear to you, I listened to it 10 times before I came on because I knew we were going to talk to him and we like him so much. And Max, if, like, forgive me,

I will get it. I am listening to it over and over and over and over. again and I'm still struggling with it. I Hena Chor is what I've heard too. I think that's closer. That is definitely closer. Okay. Anyway, the offensive tackle Max, who has an unbelievable story, Nigerian board and came to America at the age of 13, wasn't a high school football player, was in fact an AAU star, played some soccer in his background as well.

You can see it in his athletic movements. This is a massive man who just moves really, really well. And scouts and personnel directors. Play multiple sports kids. don't just lock in on one thing. But he had an AAU basketball coach who said, listen, you're a great basketball player, but you could do something special in football. We wound up going to East L.A. Community College.

Got found by the Fresno State Offensive Line Coach. Fresno State Offensive Line Coach winds up getting hired by Kenny Dillingham to be the offensive line coach at Arizona State. Because of that relationship in recruiting, winds up bringing in Max. Max gets thrown into the fire. His first year winds up playing six games,

starting five, didn't look very pretty, got better and better, persevered, took the, you know, took the bad moments and learned from them and built off of them. And now all of a sudden, I think legitimately he could be a first round pick. I'll be shocked if he's not a top 40 pick when it's all said and done. And he looked, he looked apart this week. I thought he was the best offensive tackle at the Senior Bowl this week. He's kind of mean, too. I love it.

You think of that background didn't play football, it's a lay basketball, soccer background. Is it a finesse guy? Yeah, maybe he's not the, he's like, he was fighting. I mean, he threw a couple, he threw hands during 101, which, you know, you don't want to see too much of, but I thought it was the appropriate amount. I thought he stood up for himself and I think he's a tough kid. Beyond that, here's one that's interesting. There's two guys that I want to get your take on. Okay.

Is it overcorrection or just senior bowl? buzz the buzz coming out of like we would spend a day in new Orleans it's the start of martygras mobile they think it's marty gras there they invented it some great food yeah did we just did we get intoxicated by our environment down in new Orleans and mobile for the week and I'm going too far

by saying there locks in the top 50 I know this for a fact these two guys I'm going to mention had great weeks at the senior bowl stood out among the, you know, like some of the top players, top 10 players in this year's class from the senior bowl. But I'm not sure are they certainly top 50 guys. Those are both edges. Derek Moore from Michigan and Zion Young from Missouri. Thoughts.

I got Zion Young in there. I think he will be. It's funny. I actually think Derek Moore will. be. I think he's branding Graham more. I think he's branding Graham. I think he's going to be not quite the talent. I think he's thicker in the lower.

I think there's something to this cat. So to answer your question, I'm not sure, I think lock, I don't know if I'm ready to say lock, but I'll go back to my phrase for this pot. More probable than not that I think those guys go on the top 50. I think

it's a fair assessment right now. I don't think it's an overreaction. I think it's more probable than not that those guys are. Unless there's some Character, durability stuff that will come out between now and the end of April. I would be very surprised if we got to round three on Friday night. And one of those two guys or both of those guys was still on the board. Let's put it that way. I mean, Moore had a good year, man.

He had 10 sacks this year. They both had really good years. Yeah. But I thought they separated themselves down at the senior bowl. And it wasn't, they both had viral moments. I think it was Zion Young against the Illinois. Illinois offensive tackle and more walkback or plowed in the Miami tackle. Yep.

Yeah. You got it. Hold on though. Go ahead. Do you have them ahead or behind Armason Thomas from Oklahoma who is your absolute dude, your guy? Behind. Okay.

Just want to know. I love R. Mason Thomas. I know you do. I know you. He wanted to play. That was more. He's still not 100%. He's getting ready for the combine.

had that injury against Tennessee and the return for a touchdown kind of swung that whole season for Oklahoma yeah I love this is a good edge class man there's a lot of pass rushers if you can't get a quarterback and this isn't the best year for quarterback and we'll get to QB3 in a minute

I was wondering when we're going to get the note from Dan 45 minute mark it feels like our first like real like all draft show right I was like I could go I was just thinking of myself. I'm like, we might go two hours. I won't even think about it.

We got our new partner, Netflix. We just want to air it out today, man. I don't like check down on our first show on Netflix, you know? Right. Like holding back is not a thing. Yeah. Last one,

Wildcard. Where do you get Caleb Banks now? Here's my quick tape. He's one of the two or three most talented players in Mobile. You can actually make an argument, physically, God-given tools. most talented player that put on the pads this week.

I think I saw more things they disliked or that, that concerned me than I was like, oh, yeah, great. You know, now I'm seeing it. After he didn't play very many staffs this past year with the foot injury, right? So where are you in Banks? Top 50 in or out. I mean, he's going to be a top 50 pick. First round, in or out.

Out. And I'll say this. When you go, each one of these events, and I would say the All-Star Games and the in the combine, you're looking to get questions answered, right? And I think that some of the questions were answered. I think he's healthy. I think he looked all right.

But I also, when you look at his tape from the year before, I liked his 2024 tape better than the player I saw in Mobile. So now I have, I got some questions answered, but now I have more questions. So that's concerning to me. When he was like, when he was chirping. Pissed off. When he was pissed off, he was great.

Because when he's pissed off, he fires out low and he has a plan. Listen, I believe he's a, but he's a buffet style effort guy, kind of walks down the line and picks and chooses. I, for what we saw this week, 100%. I would say on Tuesday, I had, I told you after one-on-ones, I was, I know this kid's talent. I don't think he has any kind of a plan as a pass-rrrrrisher, and he's not overwhelming guys with raw natural ability.

which I think he should be doing right now. By Wednesday, I thought, man, this guy, when he's pissed off, he's a problem as a pass rusher. But I believe it was the Wednesday practice where he had a pretty good one-on-ones and they go into the run period and then he's on the ground twice. And you, like that size, that ability on the ground twice,

I don't care if they block you with three guys. Find a way. And to me it was just like a roller coaster ride. And then, you know, you want to run your mouth? I don't really have a problem with it, but back it up, dude. Like don't you can't like be yelling all the stuff and then be like all right well I'm going to not be as to play at the same level. I'm out as a first round guy, I think.

I think he's got the talent there. But I don't think he's going to go on the first. I don't think he's going to last. He's a top 50 guy. He's not going to last. I don't think terribly long in the second round because any off any defensive line coach is going to watch that guy and see the measurables and say yes, please. Yeah. A couple other corners.

Are you out on the first round? Did you say yes? I am right now. I don't know that he won't go in the first round because of his ability. I wouldn't draft Caleb Banks in the first round. I agree. I just wouldn't. He worries me too much.

And I see all the ability. And I hope he goes in the first for him. I hope he winds up in a place with a lot of veteran leadership. And he gets pushed and he learns like how to prepare, how to work. Like I just first round picks you can't miss on. You just can't. But, yeah, that's where I am on banks. I was a little underwhelmed with Malik Muhammad at cornerback and Chris Johnson.

Me too, man. I went back and tweaked it, and both of them are not, not where I thought they'd be on this morning. And it's, it is what it is. Next, you know. They're not bad weeks. I don't want to say it hurt their stock, but I was hoping that they were going to be one of those,

two of those guys that were part of the group that really, like, stood out, you know? They're both day two picks. They're both really, really good football players. I agree. I just, it wasn't, it wasn't their best showing, I didn't think. They did a lot of good things. They just didn't kind of, you know, like next level. Yeah.

All right, moving on. Some buzz stuff I want to get to. And you share anything you heard. Hold on. Go ahead. Before you get into this buzz, you also mentioned some guys that are outside of the top 50 that were risers, right? some guys that kind of, and I just want to list a couple names here because there's a massive

omission here. You didn't even talk. Well, go to the McShay report and you can read it. I mean, I did, but you didn't. I'm saying everyone else who's watching the show right now, Mench. Okay. Trying to drive a little traffic. How did you not mention Garrett Nussmeyer as a guy that rose outside of the top 50, I think.

It's an absolute ambition. Yeah, right? Honestly, when I started this article. When I started the article, literally I was going to open the whole thing with Nussmeyer. But I got too caught up in all the scouting from the week and everything else. Yeah. But we're going to get to QB3 in a minute.

We're going to get to QB3 in a minute. We will. Four names are just want to mention quickly, though. Yep. Because these were other guys that Arkansas running back Mike Washington. I agree. We had Edge Gabe Yacchus out of Illinois. And then we also had Kansas Center, Gabe Yacht.

And then there was one guy that I just, I'm a little, I'm a little confused about why he didn't make the list. You eat an oatmeal right now? I mean, it's delicious. It's, it just, it's a cold day. I mean, if you're new to the show and you're just watching them because we're on Netflix and we appreciate you doing so. People hearing me chew is not the best thing for the first show, but whatever. I've, I've, I've equated my guy Roush from, from Stanford. Oh, it's delicious.

I mean, as a quarterback, think about the cold morning to come down. Right? This is wild that this is all the things you've said on the show. Oatmeal is like wildfire for these people. I don't know why. Like who doesn't, you cold morning, January, come downstairs, like a nip in the air, maybe some cold airs coming through the windows. What do you want to eat?

Like, what fills up your soul? Oatmeal. I remember my grandfather used to make oatmeal, like the oats and put it in, the boil the water. He would mix in some, like a whole, whole thing, like double boilers. And I like, I like a little bit of butter melted on top, some brown sugar. By the way, he's a touch of a whole milk. He's talking about a standard, just so everyone knows that he's going on a tangent.

Slice a couple bananas on top. And you got a meal. and then you're ready to go chop down wood. You're ready to go be a lumberjack, right? But as a quarterback, you want that, like, comfort. That, like, you need something to get you going. And I look like, Sam Rouse to me, looking at it, coming out of Stanford,

six, five and a half, 260 pounds. He, I know he's the best blocking tight end in the class, so I've got that right there. He's a grinder. And then on top of it, what didn't get shown because he's playing in that awful Stanford offense, how reliable the past catcher is he caught everything adjusting on the move. He runs a little funny.

I'll get it. We'll get some gifts going. But he gets late separation. I'm telling you, this guy's going to wind up on a team next year, and he's going to wind up with like 40-something catches. He's going to be a really good blocker. And one day he's going to wind up in the Super Bowl for the Super Bowl winning team. He's going to have a couple big catches.

Oh, no, don't walk it back. kind of guy. You said his rookie year he was winning a super bowl. No, I didn't say rookie year. I said, you wait. There's going to be a day where he wins a Super Bowl. You draft Rouse, you're winning a Super Bowl. He's just one of those guys. That is what you said. Yep. You draft Rous, you're winning a Super Bowl because he's a winner. He's a tough guy. He's everything you want as a quarterback and an offensive coordinator gives you flexibility. One of the most underrated players at the entire senior ball. I'm glad you brought up his name. And I'm glad you brought a bowl of oatmeal. It was absurd. I was just,

trying to explain to people, like how comfortable I was throwing them in the ball. And I love it. And I love your son, Tyler, for, uh, the AI image. The AI image. Yeah, that's great. All right. Some, some other buzz before we get to QB3. Um, I was talking to a personnel guy about crown over, the offensive tackle, who really played well during the week. And it, it kind of, he segued to, yeah, I see the same things. He's like, but I was on the field for, for, uh, A&M, Miami. I got a hard time getting the images of, of Crown over getting his lunch eaten by Bain and Messador.

And it kind of got us on the conversation of Bain and Messador and talking about Bain and just how thick his lower body is. He's another guy that's been compared to, you know, is that what I was saying earlier? Yeah, Brandon Graham. Yeah. Right? The thickness.

I've heard Brandon Graham with him several times. because everyone's looking for a cop because everyone started to say, well, is he a three technique? Is he an edge? Well, a lot of that same stuff was being said about Brandon Graham. I remember coming out of the draft.

And looking at with the career arc for Brandon Graham, right? I think he's got a chance to be that kind of player. And then Messador, a lot of teams you talk to that are looking for more like wide nine, pass rusher, you know, he's the better, more effective technician as a passer. rusher right now and gets home more consistently while Bain's a more complete player and powerful.

So those two guys, everyone I talked to in the league, locks first round, okay? Love it. Another guy who I got surprisingly glowing reports on. Dylan Thineman, safety, Oregon. Why are you surprised? Because I think he's a good player. And I know he's going to work out like crazy. He's going to test through the roof.

And I think a lot of people who aren't dialed in like we are to this draft process are going to be like it's not going to be Eam and Worry because he's not as tall and long. But he's going to have a workout that shocks the system. And I think people are going to say, oh, he just worked out well. He's really good on tape. The thing that the, what I was hearing back, though, is Tosh Lepoy, the defensive coordinator. Like, we'll sit you down for a half hour and talk to you about this young man. only had him for one year.

Look at all the ball production he had at Purdue, right? Tosh said apparently to someone that he's the best nickel corner. Like the nickel guy, you know, like that star position, whatever it is, like Brian Branch, that he's ever coached. And he's been around some pretty good ones throughout his career. So that way, and he's football obsessed was the quote I got. So I think Thieneman like, don't be shocked if he's a first round pick when it's all said and done. Love it.

Yeah. The guys that interviewed unbelievably well, and I'm not going to go through the whole list, but guys that really stood out. Obviously, Jacob Rodriguez, and we saw two force fumbles and interception, doing like Jacob Rodriguez things at the Senior Bowl. He's a grown man.

Anyone who's seen, like Marty Smith, you know, had an ex post the other day, responding to what I was saying about him, you know, reminding us about the feature that he did, which is phenomenal. and he and his wife. It's really good. Go check that out for my man, Marty.

But he was an awesome interview, not surprising. Adam Randall, the running back from Clemson, I thought had a great week of practice. Big physical guy, 230 plus. But lighter on his feet than I thought, the anticipation is a runner's coming. He's a former wide receiver catching the ball. His interview process was awesome.

You mentioned Gabe Yacchis, the edge. Edge from Illinois. There's more love in the league for that guy with that powerful hands and the toughness that he plays with. They utilized him in Illinois in a lot of different ways, and he's kind of roaming and doing, but there are some defensive coaches that really see a clear path for him. I think he could wind up being a second round pick.

I could see that. And people just love his temperament in the way he attacks the game and the professional manner he does. I mentioned Fields was an, oh, and I mentioned this during the show last week, but Bryce and Eason from Tennessee is getting, they're not the same player. Omar Norman Lott, my guy last year,

who I was pleading with people about, he's a top 100 pick. I'm not there yet on Eason, but I still got to finish up my tapework. Six-year player in the program. A lot of guys now aren't in the program, strength, conditioning, nutrition, technique. He saw it through, put on 20 good pounds

of muscle. Committed to Tennessee. Like, he has characteristics and qualities about him that we're not seeing anymore. And for all the negative stuff about NIL and Transfer Portal, it's allowing a player to develop more and be more ready for the NFL. But it's also kind of holding him back from some of the strength and conditioning and being in that same program. When you come in as a freshman, here's the track.

Like Nick Sabin was infamous for it. Every day, for the rest, for the next three. to four years of your life. Here's how it's going to go. Here's what you are right now. Here's where we're going to get you when we send you off to the NFL. So this Bryson-Eason guy

who's a one technique. I don't want to say smaller. He's thick. He's shorter. But his explosive power in terms of firing out of his stance and creating power from ground up was on display all week at the senior bowl.

And then in interviews, it's like Officer Gentleman. He was a madman on the field, gets in the interview room, and people see that, like, commitment and the maturity and the love of the game. I think Easton's going to be a guy that goes on day two that not a lot of people were talking about before last week. Anything else, Mench? Love it.

I think one of the things we talk about that experience in the program was how coordinated he was. And listen, he's not, I don't say a guy is going to be a pro bowler at any point. You know, maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I think he's going to be a really good rotational defense. offensive tackle in the NFL, and I'll take that. And I think he's, he helped himself last week, and I think he can definitely carve out a role for himself on an NFL team. All right, I want to finish with this,

because it was an awesome week for Garrett Nussmeyer. And yes, I should have included him in that article, but it gives us an opportunity to really dive in here. Garrett Nussmeier threw for a lot of yards and a lot of touchdowns in 2024. He burst onto the scene after sitting, what was three years? It was his fourth year at LSU in 2024. Waded it out, waited his turn. He always wanted to be the LSU starting quarterback, saw a path to it,

but it was going to be later in his career, took it, and did some really great things. But there were too many turnovers and forcing it and trying to do too much at times in 2024. So he comes back for this year, and the expectation is with all the money they spent on the portal. And I love Barry and Brown this week at wide receiver, but he's a slot, and he's a day three,

guy. They didn't get a right at wide receiver. Protection was inconsistent. And for the second year in a row, there was absolutely no run game. On top of it, he suffered an injury early in the early in the season with his oblique, had to kind of force himself to throw with poor mechanics in order to just get the job done. I talk to you about watching the old Miss tape. I was like, I almost wanted to cry. That is not the same human being. He shouldn't be out there. but it shows a level of toughness and commitment that he has. But there should have been people in that program that protected Garrett from Garrett. And they didn't.

With that said, he went from, this guy could be a first round pick to like, is he going to go in day two? And then he's healthy again. And he got cleared like a week or so before the senior bowl. And he comes to Mobile and he answers questions honestly, does really well in his interview. process. Get him on the field. I thought he was good on Tuesday. I thought he was damn good on Wednesday.

And I thought by Thursday practice, he was clearly one of the top players and clearly the top quarterback in a group that was, let's face it, underwhelming. It's an underwhelming quarterback class. You know, in that you had tailing green, who's got a lot of physical tools, but is a developmental prospect. Diego Pavia, who did amazing things at Vanderbilt, but is not an NFL caliber. guy. Sawyer Robertson, big mobile, big arm. I like him a lot, but he's a developmental guy. Cole Payton, who teams really like and think he's probably the most underrated of the

quarterbacks that were there. But he's a day three guy who can come in and run some packages like short yardage, goal line, that kind of stuff. According to one personnel guy I talked to, who said like there's there's a path for him to contribute in the NFL as a, is a, number two, number three. And then Luke Altmeyer, who was like, just, I told you, vanilla, just a good piece of solid toast, like a little bit of butter on top, but there's nothing fancy or special. This is not a gourmet meal talent-wise.

Here we go. But unbelievable in terms of his processing and just like doing all the right things. Yeah. But Nussmeyer was up here and the rest of those guys were down there. And it was just great to see, Garrett, with his energy back, his confidence, his leadership, the way he got guys fired up, how decisive he was. He's not the biggest. He doesn't have a massive arm. He's not overly mobile.

But he plays the game with urgency and suddenness and anticipation. And I think his super skill or his superpower is his mind, having been around the game his entire life with a father who was an NFL quarterback, quarterback's coach in the NFL. offensive coordinator now with the New Orleans Saints. This guy just knows ball. He sees things that I didn't see standing five yards behind him. I agree with that.

I had this very same experience. He knew when to, like, is that cover two, cover three, match, like the processing and then seeing something backside or going from redress. He got to show all that this week. And then he goes in the senior bowl on Saturday and he comes out on a heater. He winds up winning the Senior Bowl, MVP. sure did and so and you go back and look at the the the hit the track record and history of senior bowl MVP's at that position jalen hurts being one of this there's a handful of guys they all go

i didn't know that yeah not all a lot of them have gone on to do really good things in the nfl so with all this set we know fernando mendoza's the number one pick to to the raiders at this point it would be a shocking turn of events if that's not the case tie simpson I think is the, I don't know what FanDuel has right now, but is the odds-on favorite to be the number two quarterback off the board. And you know my love for him, but I'm also a realist. I'd love to see him. The Rams have two first-round picks to get a year behind Stafford.

I can see a path to success for him there. But then we got QB3. And for a lot of people coming in the college football playoff, the run that Miami made, it was Carson Beck might be QB3. And a lot of people were like, wait a second, what about this Trinidad Chambliss? Who, by the way, still has, there's no decision on whether he can go back to school or not. And then there's Garrett Nussmeyer, who everyone had written off. But he has an unbelievably good week at the senior bowl.

And we're starting to see, oh, that's 2024, Noss. So I throw this to you as we wrap up this show. Who's your QB3? I mean, I want to say TBD about who's going to be quarterback three. I thought you were to ask me who to be the third quarterback draft. I'm the general manager. I'm the general manager and you're coming in mind. And I'm not saying it won't change.

And we have a lot of tape to finish up. And we get a lot of people to talk to you about the interviews. And Carson Beck's going to be an interesting one. Is Trinidad in this class? But I'm saying to you right now, I'm telling you, Chamblis is available, Beck is available, Nussmeyer's available. We need a quarterback. We're one of these teams.

The Raiders will get their guy. We're the Jets on day two. Didn't get one in the first round. We're the Cardinals, the Dolphins, the Browns, the Steelers. We're in day two. Let's say Ty Simpson goes to the Rams late in the first round, and Fernando goes to the Raiders. Those teams, Jets, Cardinals, Dolphins, Brown, Steelers. And I'm the GM and you're the college scouting director.

Who are you coming in and saying, I tell you, we're drafting one of these quarterbacks. What's your recommendation? I am going, I'm just going to trust my board right now. These grades are very close. I am going Carson Beck and I know that's and we can go with the flaws right away

talk about the downfield passing some of the interceptions and bunches I like the experience that he's had at the level I like the frame I think that when he's in a rhythm he's really good a couple of things I'm not Nuss was great this week

and Nuss was really much better in 24 Nuss and 24 was still the dude who had the second half fall apart against Texas A&M. He's also 6 foot nothing and 200 nothing. And I'm not sure if you're looking at a guy like that, you're starting to think about, well, he was banged up last year

and now he seems healthy and that's great and all. But is this going to be a problem going forward? I'm a little concerned about that. And Carson Beck has the elbow injury in the past. I mean, there's all these things to sift through, and I think that's why it's a tight group. I think Trinidad, Trinidad Chambliss could be the guy.

I think he has a good inside lane to be the guy. But I talked to one scout and said, I want to see how big he is. He's listed at 6 foot 200. Is he 6 foot 200 or is he 510, 185? I want to know, and it's going to matter to me. You can say it doesn't matter to you and that's fine. It's going to matter to me what his frame looks like.

I need that piece of information because I'm excited about Trinidad, But I need that piece of information before I can say I would take him as the third quarterback in this draft. Yeah, I think I was the first person on the planet to say I would draft that guy, Trinidad Chamblis. I like him. And now a sudden we're talking about him as a second round guy, which is great. And he's earned the right to be in the conversation. That's awesome, awesome. But that's a kind of a meteoric rise, you know.

Because this conversation's happening right now. I don't have enough information on him. Besides is one of the things. I got to get to know him more. He's a hard evaluation because what he did in the college football playoff, what he did for the majority of the year, but the way his game elevated and the ability to create and extend and the confidence he showed in the playoff.

And his one negative moment was that fourth quarter against Georgia and then to come back against Georgia and to put together that fourth quarter against that same opponent showed me something about him. I mean, he put them in, he had my answer. me on the ropes. I mean, he's pointing out blitzes and laughing and making touchdown throws with the game on the line late in that game. Yeah, I mean, he's... I'm highly intrigued by Chambliss. So am I. I see all the talent in Beck, and I think he's

going to be a really good backup if everything goes right and he gets in the right place and there's the maturity and he keeps kind of, if it keeps ticking in the right direction, I can see him being a solid starter in the NFL, but it's still taking nuss. It's your guy. I love that's your guy. I think that's great. And it's got to be in the right system. I would like to see him with a Mike McDaniel or I'd like to see him with a McVeigh or where his mind, his anticipation, his accuracy, his, the, I equate the way he plays the game to Baker Mayfield. He just doesn't have Baker's arm. I don't think he has his mobility either.

I don't think he's not nearly as thick. I mean, there's... No, I understand all that. He's not as talented as Baker, but I'm saying the way he plays the game, the aggressiveness, the anticipation, the seeing things that a lot of guys don't see. That's what I'm saying.

At that, with that height, yeah. So I just trust that at the worst case, I'm getting a guy who's going to be in the league a really long time, who's going to help my starter out, who understands the game, can step in and will know the offense, I could just trust him.

And I think he's actually going to be a solid starter in the league if he's put in the right situation in a little bit of time. But all right. It's an interesting thing. We could have this as a recurring segment because I think this conversation is long from over. It's long from over.

I agree. First of all, let's find out of Chambliss is in this class. All right. Awesome start. Again, the McShay report is out. Google it. Please subscribe. And we'll be back on.

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