The McShay Show - Ty Simpson Declares for the Draft: Instant Reactions and Best Team Fits

Episode Date: January 7, 2026

Welcome back to The McShay Show! Todd and Steve are back for an instant reaction podcast to discuss Alabama QB Ty Simpson's decision to declare for the 2026 NFL draft. The guys break down every angle ...of Simpson’s decision and debate whether he made the right call to forgo another season of college.0:00 Welcome to The McShay Show!0:21 Ty Simpson declares for the draft8:05 Evaluating Ty Simpson25:20 Where does Ty Simpson rank in the 2026 QB draft class?30:30 Best fits for Ty Simpson 36:05 Join our CFP livestreams!The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available.Host: Todd McShayGuest: Steve MuenchProducers: Tucker Tashjian, Conor Nevins, and Daniel Comer Social: Alysha Tsuji Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We're breaking into regularly scheduled programming. Alabama quarterback Ty Simpson is declared. And we got thoughts. It's a flash pod and just 106 days until the NFL draft. Munch, you good? I'm good, man. I roll that beat, tuck. Ty Simpson declared.
Starting point is 00:00:41 I don't want to say we're stunned. Oh, what's that, what is that original? Let's go back to that original emotion. You did this. I, listen. I've never felt more like Pete Carroll than I do today. It feels like the Mark Sanchez Press Conference all over again. The McShay show is presented by Fandul.
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Starting point is 00:01:28 Call 1-800 gambler or visit RG-Help.com. Call 1-88-78-989-7777 or visit cpg.org slash chat in Connecticut. You know, great kid, talented player, has a chance to be a really good NFL quarterback. But we know this kind of the decision goes against the grain of what, we understand, you know, quarterbacks that stay in college longer are generally more successful. We've talked about it. You're the snaps guy, man.
Starting point is 00:01:58 I can't wait for the snaps guys take on this. Because, and I agree with you. Like, I give you a hard time. I do, and I enjoy giving you a hard time. I know. But I agree with you. The longer you stay, the better off you are. And we're going to get into where he could go and what that, all that stuff and what
Starting point is 00:02:14 his dad said. I get all that. What's your best chance at long-term success? And I'm rooting for him. to have long-term success, and that's going back to school. So I don't, I don't, I'm not loving the decision right now. And I don't mean to be a negative, no, no, no, no. But that's kind of how I feel.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Let's go through the kind of the timeline, the details, and then let's, let's start talking about this and what it means for Thai, what general managers and scouting directors and scouts and everyone who's involved in the decision-making process, like what, what are they looking at. What do we see? Where could he land and all sorts of things? But I thought it was interesting. Pete Thammo had an article, right? And nobody's, I mean, there are a handful of people are really good at what they do, a lot of them, a very small handful of people that are really good at what they do with information, being an info guy. And Pete's on the Mount Rushmore as far as I'm concerned. And certainly is the guy in college football.
Starting point is 00:03:15 So he comes out and says that his, remember, Ty Simpson grew up around ball. Dad is a lifer football coach, current head coach at UT Martin, right? Jason Simpson is his name. His quotes, whether you like the dad being involved in the process or not, and I get kind of both sides here. His quote was that his, or he says that his son received first round grades from every NFL general manager that they, contacted, okay? The quote was nobody said second round. Jason Simpson also said his son had offers to transfer to other power for schools,
Starting point is 00:03:57 which I think it's a different subject for a different day, but why wouldn't it just be as simple as going back to Alabama next year? I know they have a five-star recruited quarterback. Caitlin jumps out right away, right? It's interesting that stood out. I get the, because, okay, a reminder for people. What happens is when you're an underclassman, you put your name into the advisory committee.
Starting point is 00:04:23 The advisory committee comes back and says one of three things, you have a first round grade, a second round grade, or go back to school. He's not indicating that it was the advisory committee. Now, granted, this process gets expedited when you're playing late in the college football playoff. I'm not sure the mechanics on that in terms of when can you put in the, I think it's five names per team. Is the max you're allowed to put in?
Starting point is 00:04:45 excuse me and and so it says that they contacted meaning the Ty Simpson probably himself agent different people his team yeah
Starting point is 00:04:58 his team of folks but he said he had other power for schools knocking on his door to go in the transfer portal including Miami, Oregon and Tennessee he didn't say that there were other reports okay
Starting point is 00:05:12 the Oregon one's interesting too. Because of Dante Moore, where we're reading his decision post-CFB. I think we all are seeing that's an acela train. If you live on the East Coast, you know that's going to get you from Boston to New York
Starting point is 00:05:29 a lot faster than the local stopping train. It's an Amtrak deal. Pete Seuss's dad. Okay. The quote was there were very, very lucrative opportunities to play another year of college football, said Jason Simpson. Okay. Now, look at the numbers.
Starting point is 00:05:48 64.5% of his passes he completed. 11 and 4 record he led Clemson to. The quarterfinals of the college football player. Alabama. Did I say Clemson? I'm looking at this. It says crimson tied. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Alabama. Nearly 3,600 yards passing, 28 touchdowns, five interceptions. Okay? Last four games, though. Just 57%. Average 158.3 yards per game, passing. Six touchdowns, one interception.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Also had that stretch of five consecutive games where fumbles were lost when trying to maneuver within, escape the pocket, pass rushers coming out and getting him. And then in the Rose Bowl, when he was taken off and running, he had one knocked out as well when he cracked his rip. So that's a snapshot, okay? Let me give you my scouting report. I don't think anyone's here for like the deep dive in Ty Simpson. We have months now until April to get into all the nitty gritty. But I was on Colin Cowherd earlier today. And he kind of like, you know, elevator pitched me a little bit.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And his point was, as only he can do. He's the best. I absolutely love Colin. I've worked with him. I've sat, you know, at the desk with him. I've done shows even before Colin was at the level of Colin that he is now. And I've always appreciated his his ability to relate
Starting point is 00:07:18 sports subjects to real life to whatever it is and make you think a little differently, right? This one wasn't that deep, it was more so that he's become a believer in all his years of experience being around sports. And I think, while I think we're a little bit more advanced
Starting point is 00:07:34 in our tape study and those sorts of things, I think when you're this involved, intimately involved in sports, you create your own theories on what can lead to play. or success. And one of his is that, like, if you look across the league and the guys who have been successful, they all have an elite trait or a high percentage of them have an elite trait,
Starting point is 00:07:53 Josh Allen's arm, side, Patrick Mahomes, arm, escapability, you know, there are elite qualities. So he was asking me, and it was a really fair question, what is his elite trait? Ironically, or not ever, interestingly, I don't necessarily, it's not a physical trait, but there are elite aspects to what he does. When he was playing well, and I want to remind people, there was not a quarterback in the country playing at Ty Simpson's level through nine games. Through nine games, he was completing around 70% of his throws. More importantly to me, through nine games,
Starting point is 00:08:36 he threw 21 touchdown passes one interception. Through nine games, he had a four-game stretch. Ty Simpson did, where I don't know if it's the only time in the SEC history, but it was like forever since. They beat four consecutive SEC ranked opponents, Georgia, Vandy, Missouri, Tennessee. Okay? So you look at all those things and then you start to remember what was Ty Simpson and why the hype train was, Heisman talk, top five pick, all that. But there was always this in the back of your mind,
Starting point is 00:09:19 well, he's only got nine starts. He's only got six starts, seven starts, eight starts, you know. But when I started to think, and I had to answer on the fly, it's the quarterback's skill, the way he was playing the position was what was elite. Okay? And I kind of jotted down some notes. And what do you mean here, Todd? I mean, he's shown, you want to talk about elite?
Starting point is 00:09:44 elite processing, footwork, command at the line of scrimmage. Remember I was telling you that they were doing, he and Ryan Grubb, the offensive coordinator, were doing things that you only typically see in the NFL, pre-snap, deciphering, creating matchups, getting in and out of place. Then post-snap, also I would categorize in the elite, is deciphering defenses,
Starting point is 00:10:12 knowing where to go with his eyes, quick processing, all those things. I also, we can get into it a lot more. I also want people to understand there's a ballet aspect to playing the quarterback position, the scheduling of it. Not many quarterbacks come out of college with elite, elite level scheduling. And by that I mean timing, footwork, all marrying up with the concepts, the routes, the reeds. he was doing it at a different level, man. A level I hadn't seen, and I said it at the time,
Starting point is 00:10:48 and I stand by it. You go watch those first nine games. Throughout that process, the middle of the season, he was doing stuff I hadn't seen since Joe Burrow. Okay. And then you throw on top of that the touch, the layering, right? Intermediate throws, leading receivers, all those things, okay? And I would argue compete.
Starting point is 00:11:12 level, toughness, all there too. Now, here's the negative side. And we'll get to the 15 starts, I promise. I'm not burying the lead. And it's clearly the elephant in the room, but I got stuff on that too. He's undersized, not red flag. It's not, this isn't Bryce Young, you know, this isn't Russell Wilson coming out. But he's listed 6-2.
Starting point is 00:11:38 I stood next to him. It's around my height, 6-1, maybe got a half-inch of him. me. Listed 208, fine. Much more importantly, I saw a quarterback who tried to, who started to try as the past that first nine games when they got to Oklahoma, you got the sense of a few things. One, it became an absolute given, we ain't running the football. Alabama finished 125th in the FBS. There's only 136 teams folks in rushing offense. I also, it's hard to debate.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Ryan Williams is his best, most talented wide receiver. He got the yips. Not catching the ball, confidence down, not getting open. Something was going on. The third part of it is, and this is where it started to become obvious at Oklahoma,
Starting point is 00:12:37 and it took Brent Venables to kind of open Pandora. as box, if you will. When you're an inexperienced quarterback, there's not a lot of tape to go off of. There's not tendencies to study. So now nine games in, Brent Venables gets his hands on this thing. It's like, hmm, okay. When someone does this, he likes to go to this.
Starting point is 00:13:01 If we show this, if we overload here, he's going to slide protection. The greed is there. You saw in that Oklahoma game a high, high level defensive coordinator start to figure out the tendencies. and you, Steve Metch, tell me, have told me all season long, while there's a lot of talent there, the past protection has been inconsistent. So there's vulnerabilities,
Starting point is 00:13:24 there's holes, there's ways to get to him. And while I do believe he has a stronger arm than people think, and he's more mobile than people think, this isn't Lamar. This isn't, you know what I mean? So this isn't a guy who,
Starting point is 00:13:37 if everything breaks down, I'm still going to go pick up eight. So protection, I don't have to work. about the run that much. I could stop the run on the way to the quarterback. And now I got a beat. And so everyone after Oklahoma was like, oh, well, oh, oh, now I see it.
Starting point is 00:13:54 You know? And so things started to fall apart and the pressure's mounting. And by the way, he's carrying Alabama. But how long can you carry it? You know, same stuff we talked about with Nussmeyer last year a little bit. But I think even more pronounced, if I'm being honest. And then the deep ball accuracy was a concern. spotty.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Great throws. A couple great throws to Ryan Williams. That deep ball, the first drive, I think it was against Georgia the first time around. Beautiful ball. Right down the middle of the field, drop. But it wasn't all drops. There were more off-target throws on deep balls than there were drops if you're looking at just the incompletions. And I have.
Starting point is 00:14:37 And then finally, the ball security, we talked about the five straight games with fumbles inside the pocket. there's a lot of pros. There's an absence, though, of an elite physical trait. And then there's this final stretch of the season that you have to really do some deep digging into to try to figure out, is it circumstantial? Or is this going to carry over to the NFL, right? And then here's the last thing.
Starting point is 00:15:06 And I'll let you go. And I apologize for, as I always do. No, go ahead. The NFL's, quarterbacks of note. I went through and I and I condensed the version so we didn't have 50 names and I could do this quickly for you because I knew you'd be waiting so you could bust my balls after the show or during the show.
Starting point is 00:15:26 But I know it's coming. But you know you love it too. Deep down in places you don't like talking about you know you love it. Okay. Notable NFL starters with college experience, right? Bo Nix is in the 60 plus group. guys who are having success in the NFL who have had or are having success. And some of them may, like maybe this wasn't their best year, but they've had, they've experienced a good deal of NFL success.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Or it's one year this year, whatever it is, you'll get the list. How about the guys with 50 plus starts? Cam Ward hasn't experienced it yet, but there's not many people who talk. I talked to an NFL head coach today for 55 minutes. And he was putting Cam's name in with Drake, Jaden, some other guys. Wow. Yeah, I'm just, just talent-wise, coming out and what he thinks they could be. Okay?
Starting point is 00:16:16 That's cool. I love it. Really cool. 50 plus starts is Cam Ward, Jaden Daniels. 40 plus starts, Baker, Purdy, Pennix Jr., Herbert, Hertz, DART, 30 plus starts, Cousins, Gino, Gough, Daniel Jones, Trevor, Stafford, Lamar, Dak, Caleb, love just about every
Starting point is 00:16:44 that is every good starter in the lead except did you say Shuck I did not yet I did not put it he wasn't in there of the list I was the I would make this note about Shuck
Starting point is 00:16:56 that his starts may not be you know I think he's an interesting cat because he played seven years of college football so even though he he doesn't have the starts maybe I would guess what was he around like
Starting point is 00:17:07 I think he was around like 20 years 20 plus. Yeah. I thought he was closer to 30. Four or five. Yeah, around 30. I want to say 28.30 somewhere in that range.
Starting point is 00:17:18 And seven years of college football. There were three that are starting in the NFL right now, two of which are the best, like they're on the Rushmore, that are sub 30, but both are 25 plus. Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes. They're the outliers, if you will, right? But 29 and 25 respectively. Allen and Mahomes, but they're also superhuman. Yeah, they're Colin Coward guys.
Starting point is 00:17:45 They have traits. Multiple. And beyond that, beyond that, they both had great early development in their career. Mahomes sat out that year, had Alex Smith, had Andy Reed. Josh Allen had Brian Daibald. You know how highly I regard him. Yeah. Send your ads.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And Bryce Young was the other one. and Bryce Young's doing okay. They're in the playoffs. Rough start, but regardless. The problem is when you get the 15 starts immediately, and rightfully so, two names come to mind immediately. You can go with Mark Sanchez.
Starting point is 00:18:27 You can go with Dwayne Haskins, but I think the two most immediate that come to everyone's mind, Mitch Tribeschi, Anthony Richardson. And I even did some deep diving into that. Especially Richardson, because the tools there, I mean, he is. he's a unicorn in terms of tools. Superhuman.
Starting point is 00:18:44 That's the one that jumps out to me the most because he, I mean, this guy could be great if he was able to unlock it. Trubisky played four seasons at UNC, just like Ty Simpson did. Richardson played three seasons at Florida. All right. So, but at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:19:02 Trubisky played 19 games as a backup in 2014 and 2015 after red shirting in 2013. finished with 32 games played. 13 starts, 19 others played, okay? Where Anthony Richardson only 24 total games. And I'm saying all this because if you're trying to make an argument, you're saying, yeah, but... And by the way, Trubisky was 8 and 5 his final year.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Anthony Richardson was 6 and 6th as final year. So when you're trying to make an argument, yeah, but this guy's different, it's different. It's... It can be if you want to... if you want to bend the, you know what I mean? Because Ty did grow up around ball his whole life. Ty was 11 and 4 his final year,
Starting point is 00:19:48 led them to the quarterfinals despite no run game. Some chaos in the program. I know. But also, I think it's important that he played 16 games as a backup. So 31 games played. Not dissimilar from the 32 from Trubisky. So there's nothing that points that you say, well, he was there for six years.
Starting point is 00:20:07 He bounced around like shock. It's a different, it's not that dissimilar. You can argue it's more similar to Trubisky than it is to Anthony Richardson, but Anthony Richardson's more superhuman like Mahomes and Allen, where Trubisky was not, and Ty Simpson is not. So there we are. What do you got? Are you worried about the history of Alabama quarterbacks recently?
Starting point is 00:20:33 Not really, especially. No, I'm not. Really? I'm not. Because he's not Jaylen Milrow. He's not. Bryce Young played under a different regime. I would, if anything, I'm looking more towards Penix out of Washington
Starting point is 00:20:53 and who DeBore and Ryan Grubb been around than I am, Alabama and under Nick Saban, I guess, right? I guess. I don't know, man. I look at that and it kind of startles me a little bit. And I know you hate this one and I get it because the tape is different. they had a better supporting cast. But I, and you can't evaluate a player, yeah, you can't, you can't do too much of it, but it's Mac Jones, man.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I mean, look at what Mac Jones did in his one year as a starting quarterback for Alabama, undefeated national championship, win over Ohio State, set the single season record for completion percentage through 41 touchdowns compared. Did he have all four of those first round receivers when he was there? He had, he had, he had Devonte Smith. Yep. who was the Heisman trophy winner that year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Something like 23 touchdowns and 1,800 receiving yards. Outrageous. Jalen Wattle was played for six games. And the other guy they had was John Michie. That was it. It wasn't as good as you thought it was been. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I hear you. But when I think about that group, I am like you. I thought it was a little bit deeper and more talented. But it wasn't. Because Judy and Ruggs came out the year before. That's right. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:05 And Devante was outrageous. outrageous that year. Running game way better. They had nodgy. That was a running back that year. He was really good. I think at 1400 yards and 26 touchdown. So they ran the ball better.
Starting point is 00:22:16 The offensive line was better. All of those things are true. Yeah, I think that's the difference. That was a program that was always elite on defense, elite in the run game and had similar level, if not better wide receivers than what they had this year. And Ryan Williams,
Starting point is 00:22:32 like, Isaiah Horton's a really good player, third round pick, something like, you know, Germain, Jeremy Bernard, who I love, is still probably a second round, you know.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Yeah. I don't know. It's not apples to apples, but I have a hard time believing it's not going to creep into some of these guys' minds. I have a hard time when you're looking at this, that whether, and again, it's going to be Trubisky, it's going to be Richardson,
Starting point is 00:22:54 it's going to be Jones, it's going to be guys like that where it creeps into their mind. Like Trey Lance said, no, you know, you look at these players that with some of these other quarterbacks. You're not even mentioning the guys that didn't, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:05 there's other players that didn't work out. either. You know what he mean? And it just I look at it and it, man, there's a lot of red flags here and a lot of concerns and I'm just super bummed that he didn't decide to go the other route and go back. And I guess you know, we could talk about
Starting point is 00:23:21 where he's going to go. The thing that's interesting to me about this now that he's out, we saw two quarterbacks kind of climb boards last year and that was Jackson Dart out of Ole Miss and Tyler Shuck out of Louisville. Both of them were bigger, I think, more athletic guys than that showed during the pre-draft process. And
Starting point is 00:23:37 maybe they were more impressive in interviews than teams expected. If I'm going into interview Ty Simpson, my expectation is I'm going to get a high-level football IQ guy. Because, again, I'm with you, and I know this is a polarizing word in the quarterback world, but processing. That's his superpower. That's what I see.
Starting point is 00:23:53 And I know there's just going to be some people critical of that because of the college game versus the NFL game. I don't care. That's what I see. So my expectation is that he's going to be great in that interview room. And if he's not great on the board and he's not great in the interview, then he can hurt himself. but how is he going to help himself?
Starting point is 00:24:07 He can't help himself by doing a great, by interviewing well and being great on the board because we already expect that. You and I know how this process works, though. I know someone falls in love. If you have a second round grade on him right now, and then you get me to Indy. And in Indy, he gets on the board,
Starting point is 00:24:25 15 minute interview and he whows people there. Then they start flying private planes to Tuscaloosa, and they start getting him on planes up to, you know, first class up to, New York, out to L.A. to, you know, Miami, wherever he's traveling. Pittsburgh. Yeah. And he spends a day with them.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And they talk ball. And then he goes to the private workouts where he throws a little, he's got a little more juice than people think. And he's so, like, everything's like, you know he's going to be, I shouldn't say, you know, I would be very surprised if this whole process ends. And Ty Simpson's not a first round pick. I do like But we're having two different We are
Starting point is 00:25:09 We're transitioning to another conversation here Which I'm good with So no no no We're transferring away from long term success Into where he will get drafted Those are two different things Is he capped Is what we saw in those nine games
Starting point is 00:25:23 When he was playing the best ball of his life Is that the peak of it? Can you ever have success with him If the supporting cast isn't Outstanding around him I think that's a question That everyone's going to ask And I want to go back to, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:25:36 I'll answer it. I say he is, but that's pretty damn good. It is. You can be capped at that and I'll be okay with it. If I'm getting the quarterback that he was at times this year, awesome. I am all set, give me that guy all day. You're going to win a lot of games with that kind of a quarterback. But again, it goes back to what I was saying.
Starting point is 00:25:53 There's not a lot of areas that he can really help himself in the pre-draft process. Because I do think he is. That's his, that's his max. I'll do plenty of table. pounding for him, and I just spent a portion of the show doing some of that, right? We always have to recognize that there's going to be the guys on the other side in that draft room, pounding the table. Wait till 2027. Yes. Wait till we see that list. I'm going to give you, I was texting with, I was texting with said head coach today trying to make a point.
Starting point is 00:26:29 You ready for this list? Arch Sellers, Sayin, Sorsby, C.J. Carr, Levitt, Iamaliava, Mateer, Mensa, Mayava, lagway, Rayola, Charles, Hoover, etc. That's what I texted this head coach today. I'm saying when you're debating, when you're just, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:52 this is what could be available next year. So is this year the year to maybe build around before? Do you think that played a role in the Simpson Camp's decision? I don't, I mean, I guess that's hypothetical. Maybe we shouldn't go there. But I think it, I think it absolutely could have.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Yeah. I think it could have. You get lost in that group pretty easily when you don't have special traits. You don't get lost in this group. Because in the same conversations this morning, it's like, okay, who's after those two, Mendoza and Moore?
Starting point is 00:27:28 It's like, eh, I love Garrett Nussmeyer, but, you know, a lot to overcome. the durability size, doesn't have the arm, you know, Becca can't get on board with all the, like the other stuff, but it's playing well. Like,
Starting point is 00:27:43 what do you know? Well, let me ask you this. We start into like day three guys, man. All right? You're a tears guy, right? So your top tier, I would assume in this class is
Starting point is 00:27:55 Dante Moore of Oregon and Mendoza. Right. Yes. So your second tier is it Simpson by himself? Simpson, Starson. Okay. I didn't know if Carson Beck was creeping in that conversation because it's going to be interesting to see, man.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I'm telling you, it's going to be interesting. And I'm with you, but I think this is, I don't know. To me, again, there's no other way of saying it. I'm bummed that he's making this decision. And I get what it means in terms of your draft position. Again, two different conversations. If you're talking about wanting to get drafted earlier, Ty Simpson should come out now. If you're talking about wanting to be successful for the long run in the NFL, that's a different thing.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And I think he should have gone back. Yeah. And I'm here for the conversation about what's best for the long-term NFL. And I think it was, I think this is a failure. This decision by Ty Simpson is a failure to take the long-term view. And I'm not even talking about money. I'm talking about just when you're, when you're my. age or 70 or 80 and you're on the rocking chair.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Yes. You want to look, but you're going to make a lot. You've already made a good amount of money. You're going to make a ton of money, even if you don't even play that second contract. Don't you want to put yourself in the best position to have success in the NFL? And I think this decision by Ty Simpson fails to put him in the best position to have long-term success in the NFL. And I hate to say that because his dad's a football coach.
Starting point is 00:29:29 and I know everyone's trying to make the right decision by him. That doesn't mean he's going to fail. But I'm a trends guy. What more do we have than history, trends relying on our experience in this position? And what I'm talking to an NFL head coach or I'm talking to a GM, you talk to Parcells about I don't want a roster full of exceptions? Yeah. This is why we rely so heavily on these things, man,
Starting point is 00:29:57 because we've learned from our mistakes. I will say there's one big exception here. And I don't want to jump you because, again, we don't really talk a lot before we get on here because we wanted to be natural. But one of the things you briefly mentioned because I immediately, you texted me and said, let's do a response. And I said, I mean, I don't want to go on there and be overly critical. I'm a little down about this. I don't feel great about it. And you said, well, we could talk about the positive stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And we could talk about the teams that could take him maybe late in the first. And the team you brought up was the Rams. Now that is a big exception now. If you're telling me, because this is a big deal for every... It's the first thing you jumped in my mind. So if Sean, if he's going to play for Sean McVeigh and Matthew Stafford's playing another year, okay, now he's a genius.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Well, now he's a genius. Now he broke the code. He put himself in the best position to succeed. But man, what a crapshoot, right? Like, is he like, oh, like if it happens and it goes that way, he could really stick it to mention and be like, hey, you said it came out so early. Look at me now.
Starting point is 00:30:58 I'm with this great play caller. I learned from one of the best that ever played the game, a future Hall of Famer, all of that stuff. That could happen. So I want to say that is the one exception. A lot of these other teams, I just don't know. Like, are we super excited if he goes to the Steelers? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Like, the Browns, I would have felt better fans he was still there. Now that he's not, I don't know. Like, I just, there's not a great, a lot of great landing spots. I mean, Arizona, coming back in maybe and trying to get him late. I don't know. Let's go through him. Miami's sitting at 11.
Starting point is 00:31:29 By the way, would be a very interesting fit. It would be. That is an interesting fit. It is, I always say that. As of airing this show, I think Mike McDaniel's still the head coach, right?
Starting point is 00:31:43 And you feel good about him, that being the case, right? You feel like that might, or better than most. As good as you can, given all the circumstances and everything, but I've got, the word is that he's probably going to get another,
Starting point is 00:31:57 another shot at this, but I can't say, 100%. Okay. I do have people close to that, like, I feel good about it, but I'm not, no guarantees. Fascinating fit, better fix the offensive line.
Starting point is 00:32:10 No question. Yeah. Rams at 13 or currently they pick at 29. And depending on how long that run is in the, in the playoffs, it could be like 22 or it could be 32.
Starting point is 00:32:28 32, right. Yeah. So that's interesting to watch. It's too bad that Indianapolis traded that pick for Revis Island because I think Shane Steik and that would have been an awesome fit. Okay. They had this 16th pick. It now is owned by the New York Jets.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Pit the sauce gardener. Did I say Revis Island? Sauce Gardner. Yeah. I did you catch it. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Sauce Gardner. Jets Islands. I'm having a hell of a week with Jets fans. Jets media. Oh, man. They are, yeah. I am glad I was able to unite Jets media. I think it's been a long time since they've all been on the same page.
Starting point is 00:33:16 And you know what? Tell me when I'm wrong. 21 Pittsburgh. That's interesting. Is it? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if I like that one. It's only interesting to me because they very clearly have a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:33:32 need because I think that this is Aaron Rogers' last run. Yes. And to get a Ty Simpson at 21 if he were still there, you're like, all right. But is it another Trubisky? I actually think it's more interesting if Rogers comes back for another year. I actually agree with you. So that's where it gets more interesting to me. Sit this kid.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Let him like sit them all. But, you know, the thing with quarterback's band. But never, but never. I know. I know. I know. I live in a world. Holmes, the last one.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Jordan Love. Yeah. Is that after Mooms? Yeah. Yeah. But it's the, it's like a 20 to one proposition of first round quarterbacks that don't see the field as a starter in their rookie year. And then Cleveland, kind of hope not. Stefansky's out.
Starting point is 00:34:28 But Cleveland is currently picking at 28. Oh, the Jaguars from the trade with, who would have thought, by the way, the Jaguars would have this kind of year after that move for a player that really didn't contribute a ton. And that Cleveland would kind of look like geniuses from that move, but would have yet another Brown season, you know? Yep. But they did it to get in these kinds of positions. I do wonder if it catches up to them long term.
Starting point is 00:35:00 That's a conversation for another pod. We'll see. So far, so good. So Miami Rams, Pittsburgh, Cleveland. Anyone else I'm missing? And Miami, the pick start at 11, go to 13 Rams. Rams have another one in the 20s or early 30, late first. Cleveland has one at 28 and Pittsburgh kind of sitting in the middle at 21.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Other than the teams that might do what the Giants did and get back in? No. I mean, Arizona at 3 is interesting if they can find a way to get back. If he starts sliding and they can find a way. Ind-dart deal. Yeah. Yeah. So there's that, you can look at it that way.
Starting point is 00:35:36 But as it sits now, I don't, I don't think you're missing anyone. Miami and the Rams are super interesting to me. Miami has- Those are the two best fits. Yeah, they have other needs. And I don't know. I feel like 11 seems rich, but he's a court. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:52 It's going to be interesting. It's going to be interesting. And, well, it's time to turn the page. Ties in. I just got to get over. right? Like I just can't. That's what I'm saying. This is therapy.
Starting point is 00:36:05 We've got to show Thursday night breaking in. Last five minutes of the first college football playoff, semi-final game, which is Miami versus Ole Miss. Come join us live on YouTube. We'll be back Friday night. By then, I promise you, Mench, we'll have flushed this out of a system. I'm equally, I don't want to say disappointed. I just kind of believe in Ty Simpson, and I wanted to see another year for him to develop
Starting point is 00:36:32 hone, I always say, rinse, refine, repeat, and come back, whether it's Alabama or somewhere else, with kind of a better supporting cast and take his game to another level. Even if it meant he, he's going to be late first this year.
Starting point is 00:36:47 He probably would be late first, worst case, early second next year. Yes. But we got to get it out of our system. We got two huge shows coming up. And we're coming off to the biggest shows that we've had all year long. And so, like, it's time to go.
Starting point is 00:37:00 So, anything else? I think that's it. I want people to understand this. We roof for everyone. Everyone's like, oh, you have your favorites. We root for every prospect to do well. We don't like the decision because we are rooting for him.
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