The McShay Show - Week 10 Reaction: Arch Arrives, ACC Chaos, and Inevitable Ohio State | The McShay Show

Episode Date: November 2, 2025

Join Todd and Muench every Saturday night throughout the College Football season to recap and react to the biggest games, plays and prospect performances. 0:00 Welcome to The McShay Show!1:25 Week 10 Live Reactions!13:25 Reacting to (18) Oklahoma vs. (14) Tennessee21:20 (7) Ole Miss Defeats South Carolina 30-1432:10 (23) USC Defeats Nebraska: 21-1735:00 (5) Georgia Defeats Florida: 24-2053:05 (20) Texas Defeats (9) Vanderbilt: 34-311:08:58 (1) Ohio State Defeats Penn State: 38-141:32:02 (9) Georgia Tech Loses to NC State: 48-361:38:20 (10) Miami Falls to SMU: 26-201:46:48 TMS Top 12 The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Host: Todd McShay Guest: Steve Muench Producers: Tucker Tashjian, Conor Nevins, Daniel Comer Social: Alysha Tsuji Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut. Tucker, roll that thing. A lot of people that are friends of the show got to meet Dan Kohn, for the first time, even though it was the second time after his disastrous debut several weeks ago. But this is the support we get. I just check the chat. I've got seven messages in here. I'm like, I normally get seven messages maybe in a two-hour show.

And Dan tells me Miguel Rojas hit a home run. Like, I care about Miguel Rojas right now, Dan. Welcome in, everybody. I mean, we got a blast of a show. We got a lot to get to. We'll circle back and talk about the primetime game that we just finished up. Oklahoma, Tennessee. Got a lot of notes on that and a lot of notes on several games throughout the day.

Excuse me. But I want to start with the, this is the way we start every single live reaction show on a Saturday night. We see the chat is growing. We appreciate everyone for being there. Just looking at right. Haas, I see you. Haas is back. He's been quiet in recent weeks.

He's been in and out. But I like to see him here early. We got Matt Mateus rocking and rolling. Jeremy Godd and always tradeback's been here since freaking new. male Kiper. Who's male Kiper? I like that. I don't know, man.

Who's our Komerfo? You see that Heismendoza? I like that. Heismendoza. All right. So we got a lot going on, but we start every single Saturday night live reaction show with the best things we saw today.

And Tucker's behind the scenes, the Wizard of Oz, and he's got it all fired up for us today. And we'll get Tucker on, get his beautiful face on. on the screen soon, but he's, you know, he's got too much going on. I'm pressing all the buttons. But Tucker, what do we got first?

What do you think Ole Miss finishes up? We're 5 in 0 right now, going into a by week. Then we play what, Washington State? Yep. What do you think we finish? We got two hard road games against Georgia. I don't know if they're all that this year, but they're still really good. And then Oklahoma, John Matere, like, what do you think we do on those away games?

You think Kiwan has a game he's been having or what? I mean, man, we're always around the office, and I feel like the guys, this team is, like, plays very well together. There's no, like, players that are just playing for themselves, you know? Yeah, I really. They're all, there's no eye. They're all for the team, you know? Yeah, I agree with that because I feel like this team is way cheaper nowadays and this college football. Yeah.

All these players cost a lot of money in these big names, and they just don't, they don't bond well a player. Yeah. And I feel like this team very bonds well, so, I mean, if they go out there and execute, they, they, they could be anybody in the So that's Knox Kiffin and Kevin Smith Jr. He's also a coach's son on the staff. I love it.

You know who sent that to me on an X? Who? Lane. That's amazing. Yeah. It's cool that he lets his kid do it. You know what he mean? It's cool he lets his kid do it. It was cool that he sent it to me.

And I thought that was interesting. But really the coolest, part to me. It feels like son gets to be a little bit of dad's mouthpiece and something he may not want, right? The burner account, like kind of like he can say what dad doesn't want to say, okay. And then let's be

let's be real. There's not much that dad doesn't say. If it's on Lane's mind, it's, you know? Do we have a name for that pod? Do we know what the name of the pod is? We got to figure that out. We got to rep the pod, man. It's Knox Kiffin and Kevin Smith Jr., sons of Ole Miss coaches already on the recruiting radar.

we'll figure it out if we don't have it now yeah i'll figure it out we'll get it out there under the lights is that it is under the lights with with knox kiffin i don't know if you can see on my screen oh i like the name too yeah yeah under the lights um so so so mudcat media i just thought it was interesting he was talking about how like the the players love each other and they're here for for this team and not necessarily the money and things like that i just thought that was fascinating. And it was not, it was not Ole Miss's best game today, but they'd get a win 30 to 14 against South Carolina, grinded it out, battled for each other as is under the lights. Podcast hosts Kevin Smith Jr. and Knox Kiffen alluded to. And I just thought that was cool

and wanted to share it with our audience. It's awesome. I love it. What do we get next time? The shooters tour. We should have known. We should have known we were in for it today, Miami. The canes should have known, and then gone surfing, surf in SMU football. And this is the tradition, I guess. They bring it to the fountain on campus to baptize the goalpost. I mean, listen, you can argue SMU should have had it. They were in the college football playoff last year.

It was a top 10 win, man, in a season that felt like it was kind of getting away from SMU a little bit. You know, the ACC is we'll get to in a little bit is kind of wide open. We'll see how the whole thing plays out. We'll talk about that game in detail. But it's always kind of fun. Like, I'll just admit it. It's fun to see that the students get crazy and get the goalposts out.

Last year we saw Vanderbilt after the Alabama game, walk it down. Was it Broad Street? Yeah. Is it Nashville? That's whatever the main street is there. I was honest. That was the coolest scene of my professional life as being on that stage in Nashville.

I forget which draft, like 2018, 2019, whatever it was, pre-COVID, 2017, 18. And looking down and seeing down, let's call it Broad Street,

if it is, someone will correct me. And seeing 600,000, human beings there. That's crazy. For the NFL draft. Now, as I joke to Mel, like we, we're going to decide that and go with the story

that they're all here for us and for the NFL draft when there was a major country concert going on on that stage after. So they handled it well, but that was an awesome scene. But this was an awesome scene in Dallas, too, for the students and for the entire program. In the same week, the Rett Lashley gets an extension. kind of squashes all rumors. Ooh, Cincinnati. Was that Cincinnati or Utah?

No, that's Utah. It goes deep, up 17 to 7, and three minutes left. Yeah. So, I mean, what... That makes me think, by the way, people are sniffing around Ashley, the SMU got word that...

Oh, no question. And if they... As they should be, by the way. As they should be. And if they weren't as seriously as... But the agent is going to get that out there anyway. All right. all this stuff later. Next up,

Tuck. Oh! Here we go. Like, here we go. This is insider trading. I don't know where this came from. I don't know where this came from. Inside or trading at its worst. Where did it come from? Ty Simpson. Insider trading. All of a sudden, the odds on favorite at plus 200 to be the number

one overall pick in the 2026 draft. We don't even know if he's weird. Be in the 2026 draft. This is going to be a wild run. It should be a wild run from like December, January figuring out which quarterbacks are in. I want to talk about your boy,

Lenora Sellers, and where he is in the process right now. But it's also good from that point on when we know which quarterbacks are in, figuring out the draft order and which teams need a quarterback, and do we have even enough to get through the top 10 picks where you feel good about them being able to satisfy that need.

All right. Next up, Tucker. This is wild. Could you imagine Is that a kid? Is that a student or do they pay again? It's a student. It's such a huge honor. I used to hang out in the back of freezing cold nights in Columbus

or raining nights in between timeouts and a naphton in the back where they would have the cheerleaders and Brutus would hang out. I got to be buds with that version of Brutus. I did. But he wouldn't break character. I promise you that much. I can only imagine.

I would mess with him. And then he would mess with me on the field. We actually, we would go back and forth. That's cool. That's cool, but like, saying how are we going to top this, like,

I do feel like people live in a bubble. It was cool, but it's a zip line. You want to see a real, you want to see a real mascot jumping off? Show him this. Come on. Freddy, the Falcon.

Freddy the Falcons upside down. laughing at me. Yeah, that's the, that's like a paid stunt guy. You just threw an 18 rolled up the side of your stadium. Whatever. You do whatever to tell me, like, it's tough, tough to top that. I think I just saw this, this recently. Didn't the Oregon duck do something like that, too?

I didn't see that. Just because your guy did it, you think it's going to be, he's, like, no one, no one could top that. Get out of here. Nice job, though, Brutus. Do we got anything left? Oh, yes. Buckeye Nation.

I knew I was going to bash Brutus and didn't want to take all the Columbus noise today. This is awesome. This is pre-game. Ooh, Jim Knowles left to go to Penn State. Caleb Downs with Patricia. That's awesome. That's pretty good. That is pretty good.

There's a nod there to Buckeye Nation. Really well done. All right. I mean, that's a lot of fun. That Tennessee entrance tonight was electric with the, the, oh my gosh. Oh, it was good. It was good for what, 10 points? I think so, yeah.

I mean, it's. And the penalties and all the, like, you got to overcome that. That's worth, that's worth points what, what goes on in that stadium in the first quarter. And remember Georgia, Georgia had to overcome it? Like, and that wasn't, that wasn't. was a day game. But that, Neeland Stadium is no

nonsense when it comes, especially night games. They're, their PR department, their social media department. They're like, they, they are,

they're elite. Elite. Special forces of that kind of stuff. Yes. Yes. I love where the SEC is taking the whole thing. I really do.

They have leaned into a, like, a whole different level. I'm not saying it's not partly my fault, but so far, you running a tight chip and a concise show is not going well for you. No, not good at all. All right, number 12, and I want to wrap this because we watch the end of the game together live, but people are jumping in after the reset and want to know like the thoughts on the game. Number 12, Oklahoma, six and two. Number 18, Tennessee, six and two. Talk about the night,

the light show and all the, the scene that was Neeland Stadium tonight. Aguar was dealing early on. There were a couple OU penalties that extended drives, but Oklahoma's secondary had no answers in this game. Tennessee's going for a second touchdown to make it 14-0. It was 7-0 to make it 14-0-0. I said 10 points. Seven points. They came out.

There were penalties. Oklahoma seemed like in disarray. And all of a sudden, I think there were about 30 yards out there driving down for what would have made it 14 to nothing, right? All of a sudden, ball stripped out. R. Mason Thomas scoops it. R. Mason Thomas carries, but felt like seven offensive players

turned defensive players in that moment, gets through, somehow keeps his feet, and then, like, gets shot by a sniper. I don't even know what it was, with some sort of leg injury. He can barely... It's a hamstring, I think. It looked like a hamstring.

I thought it was an ankle, but yeah. He's tiptoeing, but, like, honestly, just trying to stay alive and stay... stay afoot. And he somehow winds up, like, just not touching the sideline and going 70 yards for a touchdown. 7-7.

Unbelievable play. By the way, it was only one offensive player, I think. It was just a 15-yard stiff arm. Like where the tight end was trying to strip the ball and make the tackle and he kept fighting him off. And then the next thing you know, he broke free. You were like, wait, how did that happen? But it's like all the more.

momentum shifted. And Oklahoma continued to struggle throughout the half, right? But that forced fumble and 70-yard return all of a sudden, 7-7. They trade a couple field goals. It's 10-10. Okay. Then the things, here's what jumped out to me right before the half, even though they got two more field goals Oklahoma did and went to the half 16 to 10. Here are the notes I wrote. They cannot run the football against this defense. Oklahoma can't. And it's been a problem all season long. Next note was where the hell is Isaiah Sotania, the wide receiver who, and I love, I love Deaum, DeM Burks, and he's been a great receiver and a possession receiver, but he had a drop tonight, and he failed to make a block on a big play.

But Sotania has been kind of like the big play guy, and he was, I don't know if he had one catcher, zero catches the entire first half. So then they come out in the second half. Tennessee goes down to score 1716 Braille 54 yard touchdown you think like it

what's going to happen here because it was like Oklahoma was stood the initial search got that big play to make it 7-7 then it was trading field goals and Oklahoma felt like it had momentum but then Tennessee comes out in the half

and like bang bang pops a big play and in Staley for the touchdown so now it's 17th 16. Then Mateer settled down. And this is, from that point on to the end of the game, Matier played mostly like John Mateer. He was throwing the ball well. He was running the ball especially well. Yep. And even early in the game, like, and, you know, Herb Street, like Herbie and I are usually on the same page of a lot of so I get what he was saying. He was talking

about, I don't know about like the form and the hip rotation, like jump in the air. I've seen Mateer do that before. But Mateer tends to do that stuff when he's rushing himself unnecessarily. And that's what I thought he was doing in the first half. Second half, he settled, settled out. There was even a clip in the fourth quarter where Arbuckle comes over in the bench is like, there's my guy.

Finally got you back. Like, now we can roll. I don't know. And we just watched the end of the game. But that, you know, but then even like Xavier Robinson had the fumble deep in Tennessee territory. But Tennessee had three edge defenders who were out, including Joshua Joseph.

So it was like this back and forth. Yeah, you're right, man. It was sloppy and it was messy and there were injuries and there were fumbles. And there was an interception from Mateer that got Tennessee back in it and all these things. But it was a highly entertaining game. And my biggest takeaway is we knew Oklahoma couldn't run the football. But John Mateer's back. And I'm not saying he's going to be like,

everything we thought, but a 90% John Mateer is better than most quarterbacks in the country. And so it gives OU fans hope, even though it's Alabama, Missouri, LSU, hope that they can run the table. And worst case, they win two out of three. And we'll see how the chips fall. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, I don't know if Mateer's all the way back. I really don't. I think there's still, I still have some questions he had to pick late.

And like, I just, and he's going to do that too. It's tough, like, it's tough to tell what's the injury and what's not. the injury. I think, you know. That's fair. And I just, I mean, you watch, did you see the clip of him going into the stadium today where he like high five to fan? Yeah. And the fan grabbed his hand and like, what kind of asshole fan holds on to the guy's right hand that's been, that he's had surgery on and has been driving him, like, how cool this are you? That person should be, like, that person should be banned from Oklahoma athletics for the rest of his life. Yeah. So I, but now they have a buy. They got two weeks. Maybe he can get even closer to what he was and we'll see what happens. I just think that I think

you're dead on about your assessment. If they win two out of the next three, it was a great year. It gives him material fuel to come back. It's a step in the right direction for that Oklahoma program, which is going in the right way. But I just think it's going to be a tough, tough road to get into the playoff at this point. I think too much has happened at this point. Yeah, I agree. I'm just letting everyone know we're alive. And Cincinnati is absolutely getting murdered. Yeah. Down 17.

This is what I told you. This is what I told you in Stanford Steve. I know. I didn't see it, man. I didn't see it. Suckers. Somebody knows something. It's like the old, like it's for all the amazing things that Coach Corso did for college football,

it was the smartest thing, the smartest piece of wisdom that he passed along. Every once in a while, when you look at a spread and it jumps. comes out to you and you're like, oh, I got to bet Cincinnati. They're getting plenty points. Cincinnati is playing great. I know football so well. I know Sorsby. I've been listening to McShay and mention they tell me all these draft prospects.

Then you have to say, you stop right there and say, oh, does somebody know something? And if so, I'm learning then. I'm going with the somebody's. I mean, I just watching the tape, didn't see it. All right. So that's where we are in Oklahoma. Let's keep it rolling. Let's go.

Another night game in the SEC. And I want to rip through these quickly. There's three games that we're also going on at night. And oh, she's, what a mess this game is. Utah, just got an interception, I think. But then you've got to fumble back after the interception, but now have the ball inside their own five. All right, three games I want to get to, okay?

Let's keep it in the SEC. South Carolina Ole Miss. Okay. And I think it was Smith Jr. in the podcast, Under the Lights, mentioned Kiwan's name, Keywon Lacey. Dude, he was awesome. He was awesome. Tonight was about the run game for Ole Miss.

And you know what? Really good teams win when they don't have their best stuff. Like a great pitch of wins when the, if the change up isn't there. You can win with the slider, the curve, and the fastball. Fastball's not there. I got a bar, doll, badgersill, whatever, put five miles an hour on your fastball. Major League. Yeah, yeah.

Crisco, Bardol, Vagicil. Ain't got an arm like yours. The old miss wins 3014. They do it ugly. How about this, this stat line? Between Kiwan Lacey, who had 16. 47 yards rushing. And

Chambliss, a quarterback who struggled tonight throwing the football. It's the first time I've seen him not where he just, he didn't have his stuff. And he looked frustrated, right? He looked like he was getting under his skin a little bit.

Totally agree. But credit lane in that, hey, we can run the ball on this team. Let's win a game where we absolutely just pounded away. And they did it. Between Chambliss and Lacey, 39 carries, 226 yards, and two touchdowns on the ground.

That's when people think about that lane offense and they think it's all about, you know, tempo and airing it out, and then they come back and do that to you. And they haven't been that great. Like Lacey's been, I've liked Lacey this year, but the numbers haven't been that great until now. But that's what that offense can do to you. You think it's going to, they're going to spread you out and dink and dunk, and the next thing you know, they run it right up the middle.

So I am, for South Carolina, it's just frustrating. And I've talked to some South Carolina fans. And I also, you know, we've had, we just did the, the McShay report, right? And the McShay report, by the way, Google it. The McShay report, if you haven't, if you haven't subscribed, please do. You can subscribe for free. Tomorrow's a free piece every Sunday we run it. It's a, it's a basically a recap of some of the stuff.

that we're going on tonight, but like more in-depth and also some personnel notes. And I've been firing a lot of good stuff at Dan all day long. So get involved with that. But even like listening to some of the questions, we did a premium subscriber thing last week, Q&A. And just there's a lot of people talking about Shula and that offense and it not fitting what he does. And my my response was I get it as an evaluator for the NFL. I like the fact that I'm seeing him with a little bit more pro-style reads inside the pocket and those sorts of things. But yeah, like I see the frustration in that we could be doing like some more zone read option and some different like progressive new age stuff that would allow him to utilize his mobility.

At the end of the day, if you can't block, it doesn't matter the scheme you have. So I'm not letting Shul off the hook. I'm just saying it's it's very frustrating regardless of what they're trying to do offensively. And I also noticed, like, he's averaging, like, the last three games prior to this against three really good. It was like Missouri, Alabama and LSU. He, it was like 26, 22, and 18 where his carry totals. So whether it's design runs or the way you want him to run, he's still running the football. And they still don't have the balance of a run game.

They don't have the protection he needs. And it's a mess. He's running for his life is what's happening. He's running for his life. So my question to you is, and we don't need to get into. detail here. But I watch him today, and I see Nick Harbour, it's the same thing. Awesome talent,

but it's all or nothing. Like at one point I jotted down who's midway through the third quarter, he had one catch, but it's for 47 yards and a touchdown, but it's just one catch. You know what I mean? So like the reliability the one earlier there was a touchdown, yep. I think I missed that. Or at least a big play.

Yeah. So my point is, like watching sellers this year, even though I personally as an evaluator have seen growth in his game. especially from early last season, but even at the end of last season. I've seen growth in what he's doing as projecting him to the NFL.

I'm starting to get the feel like, and I hope it's in South Carolina, but I've heard some reports that like maybe it won't be if he decides to come back, whatever the deal is, I just think he would benefit from another year in school. And I know you love him so much. So I wanted to touch on this very briefly with you,

Steven, ask you that question. 1,000% agree with you that he should go back to school. I think that about Ty Simpson, though. And I think that you have really been preaching this for a while now. And I just agree with you. It just the data that we've looked at suggests the more starts you get in college, the better off you're going to be. I still think why I still bet on Lenora Sellers

and think he's the number one quarterback that he comes out is because he does things that no one else can do. I really believe that. I agree that. So that's where it is. And I do see, you know, I got some questions today about, like, what do you see in this guy? Because we're not seeing it. You look at it, say, 16 for 30, one touchdown, two interceptions.

I get it. I get it. But when they're not, when they're literally not blocking defensive tackles because guys are sliding the wrong way and they don't know what they're doing and they're getting beat one-on-one. It's just, and Nick Harbour's got a deep ball. And Nick Harbors is so much fun to watch play when he's playing well. But he's got a deep ball and he goes up and it goes right through his hands. You're like, come on. man, like come on.

And it's not like Sellers is, you know, doesn't deserve any criticism. I'm not saying that. But, you know, we've seen other quarterbacks go in. And I think about Lamar Jackson and I think about when he came out of Louisville. And I think about Josh Allen when he came out of Wyoming. And they developed into better pastors in the league. And they had good coaches to help them get there. I get that.

But I see this kid is that level talent. And I really just believe that. That he's one of those rare talents that can, you can turn into a, you know, an NFL, like the face of a franchise. That being said, I'm with you. Like, there's things he's got to work out on it. And why not do it at the college level? Now, it does get tricky.

I think he's got to sit down with, you know, at this point, he's got to have a team around him, right? And he's going to have to sit down with his team and sit there and talk to Coach Beamer, who I really like. But there's got to be a plan in place there. And if there's not a plan in place or they don't have a way to figure this out a little bit more for him, then he's going to have to go somewhere else or he's going to have to declare because I don't really see the point of running it back and doing

this again. And I'm just being honest about what I'm seeing. Does that make sense? It makes total sense. It makes total sense. I think it's two parts. I think it's figuring out where would next year be. And if it's in Columbia, South Carolina, is this the right, do we have the right cast where it would make sense to come back and I can make the steps I need and be supported in doing so? Or does it have to be somewhere else? Yeah. I would imagine kids would want to play with him, but I also think it's tough to recruit there. So it's an interesting dynamic.

They've got to sit, Ole Miss now, back to Ole Miss. The best comment all day long just came from God. And it'll be tough to beat. Can't wait. Because anytime, and like there are funnier things and like interesting, but like he just put a thought into my brain as I tell you the schedule. You got Citadel for Ole Miss on the 18th. Florida at home and at Mississippi State.

Like, Ole Miss is running it with a one loss, one loss going into the SEC championship game. I'm convinced. He said, I'm dying to see Sig versus Lane in the playoff. That's interesting. Pause.

Close your eyes if you have to. You were not staying on course tonight, but yeah. The week leading up, Oh, unbelievable. Fuck staying on course. I just realized, when do the clocks change here in New England? Never been in the United States? One o'clock, I think.

No, I think it's like two to three. I want to be still doing this and say, well, we gained an hour back. What's the matter that we're going for three hours? But how awesome would that be like the week leading up and some of the nonsense back and forth between those two? And then the offensive, like the game play. Oh, my gosh. that's the matchup that's the coaching matchup

I have to see God not to mention that how like the elite level of coaching that would be going on there too I mean it would be it would be a fun interesting poll just went up who would win

hey get us that Tucker if we can they can make their jokes about Todd's odds and he's a lunatic and all that I want an odd on neutral site Indiana versus Ole Miss If we can't get it tonight, let's have it for them by Monday. We will have it for you Monday. That doesn't seem aggressive enough, Tucker.

That seems like you're just mailing it in. Don't listen to him, Tucker. You're sending an email to corporate. I want you to text a guy. I know we've got a guy or a girl. But we got a poll question up. Who would win Indiana or Ole Miss? Who would you say?

Who do you like? I got Indiana right now. I really like Ole Miss. I got Indiana. I like the defense better. Really? Talk to me. Why?

Lane. I love Lane. Love Lane. You think Lane, you give the coaching edge to Lane over Signetti? I mean, those are two price fighters. Those are like two heavyweights. Lane's got more talent, too. Slightly, not a ton more, quite honestly, and the more I watch.

Oh, yeah, I don't know. I don't know, man. All right, well, we'll have this conversation. Maybe we'll bring it back on Monday. Ten Trues. Maybe we'll definitely have the, Tucker will get it to us by Monday. Um, we just take it easy on my guy,

please. No. Tucker is the best. That's it. I only mess with the people I love and that I know can handle it. Um, and that's, that's a fact.

All right, two other games tonight. And let's, USC Nebraska, I don't know how much we even have to get into this. I did want to touch on the, on the fact that USC two and six coming into this in road game since the start of 20,

for. And not very good overall in the, in the, in the Lane Kiffin era. And it's gotten worse now that the travel has been like multiple time zones, thousands of miles and all that stuff. So this is a big win, even though, like, found away. Miava really struggled.

And I hope it's not a regression. I hope it's, you know, and he did have a 43-yard completion to Jaden Richardson. They got him up 21-17 and turned out it was on that. it was on that drive that turned out to wind up, you know, that drive wound up being the game winner. Yeah. So he did some good things in the second half. But Maya Ava started six of 16 for 57 yards in the first half.

And it ended nine for 23 with 135 yards. I mean, it wasn't good. Yeah, and I'd have to go back and watch that tape. But that's not like to the level we've come to expect. now Emmett Johnson the running back from Nebraska had a really nice night. Raola did some really good things but at the end of the day I give USC credit for grinding this one out. It felt like a program win where they needed to overcome the travel thing.

It's real. I know the travel is real and like when James Franklin said it after one trip out west like give me a fucking break. Yeah. When you're USC and you're traveling from Southern California like this is now the third or fourth trip across, not across the country, but like to at least, like it wears on. Yeah, I get it. But they have that, but they've got to look internally and figure out how to get over that. Because this is a good team. They're now six and two with one loss. One loss was to what, Michigan?

Yep. Where was the other loss? Well, it doesn't. We don't need to get in a big thing. I like this. Illinois. It's a good team. But there, we'll get to this later. They're in the economy section of the, of the plane that's taken off when we get to the team. TMS top 12. Yeah, it was Illinois, right? It was Illinois after Illinois. Yeah, it was Notre Dame and Illinois. Oh, Notre Dame and they beat Michigan. That's right.

But Michigan had to go out there. All right. Right. So that's a nice win for USC. They were ranked 23 coming in. I don't suspect that that's going to get them into the TMS top 12, but I wanted to make a note that that was an important win for that program. Next up and the final one from the night games.

Actually, you know what? You know what? We'll come back to Georgia Tech and NC State. That's what we're going to do. This is me doing organizational as your host. On the fly. I want to, let's keep it back. Because we started the show off with the SEC,

and we kept it with the SEC with Ole Miss. And let's just get back into the, what was, they're the cardiac kids without seeing the post-game interview, and then I just caught the post-game interview. And Georgia head coach Kirby Smart was saying the same thing. He's like, the cardiac kids. They are. The thing I would do if I was a major gambler and I made a living off of it,

if my children's futures depended on me as a gambler, bet the second half on Georgia, bet the fourth quarter on Georgia. It's what they do. I'm with you on that. Yeah, like they just don't flinch. They don't care. They're the cardiac kids for everyone else, but you take their pulse and it's like, you know, it's about 60, 65 in the fourth quarter.

They do like, they have like the marathoners, uh, resting heart rate. They don't care. So Florida, Florida, Georgia, largest outside cocktail, whatever, get like, you know, it's the best party in the world is what it should be. Or used to be at least 2420 is the win, right? And by the way, I can already hear Van Peltin and Steve Coughlin. When they're not too busy stealing our show idea and they're probably having your show right now. Scotty and Steve

their bad beats is the best thing on television it's the best not just sports television it's the best thing on television so I don't know why they have to steal our Saturday night show concept when they have the best thing on television already but um but they did and I hope it's going tremendously well for them again I only mess with people who I love and I know who can take it

um but the bad beat, if, Coff, Gunner Stockton doesn't run it and just puts a knee on it and the one they could have,

and this is a rivalry. Like usually you just run it in and shove it down their throat. But they didn't. Okay, so that's that. Florida had one, let's,

I want to actually get into this game. We've been kind of touching on things and tree leaves and all that. I want to get into this game. Because I continue to try to figure out who Georgia is and how legitimate Georgia is. Okay. Florida had one great drive early on this game.

And it ended with the DJ Lagway rolling out to his right, finding the open receiver in the end zone touchdown. Okay? But that was kind of it for the first half. And I know Florida has had all sorts of struggles offensively. But I want to give a lot of credit to Kirby Smart. Kirby Smart is winning in the margins this year. Okay.

His team does not have four or five first rounders on the defensive side. this is not going to be the defense that fuels the Eagles for the next seven years, right? Right. There are some really good players, and I'll get to one in a minute who had another awesome day. He's got a quarterback. He's grinding every week and has some dual threat stuff to him and will surprise you when he throws for 300 plus here and there against Tennessee, and there was another game where he came out gunning too. But this is a team that's not to the level that Georgia's had talent was.

but it's still got a lot of talent and it's a lot of young talent. So the coaching has become absolutely critical and really well coached teams. Yeah, you like to think they come out prepared and they don't get bombarded early on, get jumped like they're in an alley, but it's happened.

And with young players sometimes, even if you prep it during the week, you run it through and you meet in the meeting rooms and you watch the tape and then you get in the practice field and you drill it home, Until they see it in the game, sometimes young players, sometimes old players, but a lot of times younger, inexperienced players have to kind of see it and feel it for themselves.

Put their hands on the situation. But then they need great coaching to help them through. How do we adjust to what we just saw? Because now we're down 7-0 or 14-0 or 21, whatever, as they were against Tennessee. What Kirby did so beautifully, I thought, in this game, I don't know that anyone else or very few people will probably touch on. he recognized, okay, they scored on that drive, but that Florida offense I can contain.

It's not Aguilar with Brazil and Staley and those weapons. It's not some of the other offenses. We're going to have to win with field position. Let's write the ship and let's do all the little things. Let's keep the game in their side of the field. Three drives in a row in the first have to finish the first half. Florida started on their own 11, their own 11, and their own 9. Yeah.

With an offense and a quarterback that has been so up and down and so inconsistent, you're basically saying, go ahead, take the ball. I'm not going to go forward on a fourth. I'm not going to put myself in risk and give you a short field. I don't trust you, Lagway, to be able to drive 89, 89, or 91. and that that calculated those calculated decisions paid off right agree and so it's great special teams it's great coaching and decision making and it's understanding your team and your team's opponent right so it's 10 to 10 at the at the half after controlling giving up a first drive

making adjustments and then controlling the field then Florida comes out after the half they kind of controlled the third quarter They led 23 to 20. This game for all the great coaching and the adjustments and some of the good things that Georgia did, but not enough. They were up Shits Creek. Yeah, they were. If it was not for that third down and fourth down stop,

those consecutive stops. And that fourth and one when Florida went for it. You could argue maybe kick a field goal there and make it a six point lead. But it's like, am I really going to give the ball back to Gunner Stockton? And Georgia always, like I got to score. I didn't have a problem with it. I totally understood the mindset. I like the call too.

I thought it was the right call. That changed the whole dynamic. It was a great play by the corner. I can't remember where the corner was. And I want to say this for Georgia fans listening. If you go on a run and if this young Georgia team, keeps getting better. And all of a sudden, you're in the college football playoff, and you've won out, or you got in, however you get in, and all of a sudden you win a game or a two in the college football playoff. I want you to remember, had it not been for that fourth down stop, you might not be in this position. I can't, like, true.

I remember in that moment thinking that could be a play that we look back on and say, it saved Georgia's season. reason because now all of a sudden they'd have like they could easily have lost this game today I agree because then the clock starts running Florida whether it's a field goal or touch they were in trouble man they were in like real trouble right and they've been in real trouble several several times but that felt like real trouble for some reason then they get the ball back and it becomes what I want to call the Zachariah um Zachariah branch drive nice day huh yeah you had a wonderful day. He's becoming a...

Go ahead, sorry. He's like becoming a focal point of the offense. I think he's a... When they're figuring out what they are and I'll get into the running backs in a minute too, but Zachariahe Branch is going to be a big part of what they do because he's just a safety valve who can

then make short plays in a big plays. I mean, he's awesome. But the first part of it is the safety valve and how is he a safety valve? Because this mother bleeper uncovered. The safety blanket, maybe whatever, yeah. But there's security in him because he uncovers faster than most wide receivers in the country uncover. And he does it with that lightning, like, quickness and an ability to change direction.

As I'm spitting on my mic, and so all of a sudden, it's that massive play on third and eight from your own 20-yard line. So as huge as that play was to get the stop, you're now at third and eight. you picked up two yards on first and second down. It's third and eight from your own 20. You don't get this. You got a punt, and you're kind of right back in that same situation. Florida is tick, tick, tick, tick, right?

Yeah. He uncovered, he uncovers like this. And Stockton gets in the ball, easy throw, picks up a few more yards, first down. About two plays later, two plays later, he has another 14-yard catch. That drive. And then it winds up being the drive that they go down and score the touchdown.

Go ahead touchdown, right? Yeah. So it's that critical third down conversion with 651. Time was rolling, baby. You don't get that. And you got to punt because it's fourth and eight. They're getting the ball back. It's a six minutes.

You're running out of time. So they get the third and eight. 14-yard catch. Yeah, 14-yard catch to set up the go-head touchdown score. he finishes with 10 for like 116 or something like that in this game. And yeah, I think he, I know he doesn't have great size and all that stuff. I think he's going to be a second round pick. I think he might be a top 50 pick in the draft.

And it's a good thing that they're starting to go. And I know Colby Young with the injury. And so from that slot position, Zachariah Branch has become invaluable for Georgia. Agree. agree. 10 for 112 is what he finished with. Stockton finishes 20 of 29 for 223, two touchdowns and interception.

Just an absolutely pedestrian stat line for an absolutely pedestrian performance from Stockton, given the standard that he has created for himself, which is a positive. Right. I mean, look, this is what I look at Georgia. I look at them,

they are going to make defensive adjustments like no other. And they can take a punch better than any team in the country. They'll take your best shot and still be able to stand there and come back. Gunter Stockton's going to gut it out. He's going to make plays at key moments. They got Zacharii branch who can be a difference maker in key situations. They've got playmakers on the outside that aren't consistent but can make plays. And then they're going to stay committed to the run.

And I want to ask you this. Is Chauncey Bowen's the best running back for? for Georgia. I love Nate Frazier. I think Chauncey Bowens has been... I feel like he's been more reliable this year. Yeah. I mean, he is super talented. And I don't know why.

Yeah, I don't either. Maybe because when Frazier's in the game, they're keying on him more, and Bowens has gotten away with a little bit more, or I don't know. I don't know what it is. Is Bowen's a little more patient? I feel like... I can't believe I'm saying this. I feel like he's

shown a little more juice than Frasier. and I love Frazier, man. Yeah. I feel like the difference is Frazier sometimes when I watch and I would have to go and like dive in the tent. On surface from watching, it feels like a lot of times Frazier's like

almost hitting it too hard or too and like there's like this little bit of like indecisiveness or it hasn't developed or something like that. With Bowens, I feel like the best way I can describe it is it feels like it's timing. It's timed out. Blocking. with the back, but I don't know.

And I'm not saying he's not Levyon Bell. I'm just saying it's kind of this little bit of, and then, you know, but yeah, they've got, they've got at Mississippi State, and then they get Texas at home, and we'll get to Texas in a minute. Texas is interesting. And that's it for the SEC, and Charlotte and Georgia Tech. I don't want to do this right at the second, but I'm going to anyway. That sounds good to me.

go. I just want to look at the SEC standings right now. Because you got Alabama. It's going to be interesting because here's what it's setting up to be. And this is why I'm doing this. Yeah, Texas A&M, Alabama, Georgia and Ole Miss, we're all in the top seven coming into this weekend. And that's not going to change, obviously. Right. It looks an awful lot like A&M and Alabama are going to get in. But like in the, I'm talking about the SEC championship game. So two, and they're going to get four teams in. Are you almost, are you almost better off?

Not even having, if you're Georgia in the Ole Miss, not having to play. And don't forget about Texas is four and one. If Texas beats Georgia, I guess this is where I'm going. If Texas were to beat Georgia, and Georgia beats Georgia Tech, which will now be ranked 15th or something like that, and maybe can sneak back up. It'll be a quality win. It'll be a ranked opponent.

But it won't be what, it could have been a top six, top seven opponent, had Georgia Tech not lost today. Because you get five teams with Texas. I'm saying, could there be a fifth, if Texas wins that doesn't get in the SEC,

let's say it's A&M and, and even the loser of that SEC championship game is getting in. the college football playoff. Definitely. We know that. And then Georgia, Ole Miss Texas, at least two of those teams,

could it be three? I guess is where I'm going. So Texas has Georgia in two weeks. And then A&M. Yeah. So if they beat Georgia and lose to A&M, are they going in, are they getting in with three losses?

No, because then they'd have three losses in the SEC. No, they'd have two losses in the SEC, three losses overall. I don't know. We'll get to all that. We have the TMS top 12 coming up.

I just wanted to throw it out there. Like, we're getting to a point now. We're in November. Like, something's got to shake out. And unlike last year when we in South Carolina and Ole Miss, and I recognize that they, like, I get it if they don't get in, but I know they're better than Indiana.

I know they're better than there was another, who else was in? Boise State had to get in. It was Indiana and, UMU. SMU. There's just better. Yeah. This year,

these teams outside of Texas. Texas hasn't done it yet, but if Texas gets a win against one of those opponents, I read today, Texas has two wins against top ten opponents. Is that right? Yeah. Oklahoma? Oklahoma.

When they played him in Vanderbilt. Yeah, when they played him. Six and nine. So, all right. Moving on. I do want to give two bits of just love, right? Okay.

Before we move on. C.J. Allen is an absolute terminator, the linebacker from Georgia, and he's just fun to watch. And there's got, there's a lot of good off the ball linebackers in this year's class. And Arvel Reese is he in off the ball? Is he, you know, the edge will have that conversation for months. He's a special talent. He may be the first, he may be the first off ball linebacker to get drafted. And it'll be the highest in off the ball linebacker gets drafted since Devin White in 2019.

And he went five overall. Okay. Yeah. that's about the range where I think Arvel Reese is tracking right now. If you watch him against Shelton today and some of the things he did and dropping into coverage, like my goodness. But he had, but CJ Allen,

while he's not that, I do think he's playing his way into first round consideration with the way he's playing. And I had him in my top 32. He had 12 solo tackles today. 12 all over place. Everywhere. I also want to give a little nod to a player who, I just like, and you know me, my affinity.

Maybe it's because Pete Woodfork. Growing up was a 5-9, just absolute terror as my go-to receiver. But I love slot receivers. Trey Wilson, the return game, the run-after catch. We just talked about one of them, obviously, in Zachariah Branch. Trey Wilson's not to that level in terms of quickness and shifting this, but it's good to see him now. Maybe it's the coaching change for whatever reason,

getting the targets he deserved nine for 121 in a touchdown. He had a big day. Moving on. The Florida receiver, yeah. I'm sorry, the Florida receiver. Yes, I was talking on that side of the ball. So that's that. Let's get to the noon games.

They were awesome. Yeah. But I feel like we need to stick in the SEC because we just talked about Texas. So let's go to number nine Vanderbilt at 20, Texas. Texas wins this one 34 to 30. Dipped. I thought I could go for a walk at the end of the third.

I thought it was over. I was like, I'm going to go for a quick walk. I told you, the Home Depot helped me build an outdoor shower. And I'm living in the Northeast and I'm hanging on to that sucker until the pipes freeze. And I probably get to go back to Home Depot next spring and get new pipes. I thought it was over. And so I put out my towel and all my stuff and ready to go take a shower then. And it wasn't until 710 p.m.

that I wound up taking a shower because of Diego Pavia. and Texas is Prevent Defense. Oh, my God. But I don't want it to be, let's start with Pavia. This guy is an absolute lunatic, and you know me. I fucking love lunatics. I love guys that just don't care as you're starting to get, as you actually get to know me in this,

not you, I'm talking about our audience. No one got to, no one got to know me for 20 years of the ESPN. You're starting to get to know the real me recently, and it's causing some people around here. some trouble, but not that much. I love crazy people. I love maniacs. I love people who just, like, no matter what, they just, like, find a way, right?

Yeah. I mean, the dude threw for 365 yards today and rushed for a team high 43 yards. He was the team's leader in Russia. They couldn't run the ball on Texas. It was all on him. And by the way, he got sack 12. twice as many times as he's ever. Was it New Mexico State?

Where was he before this? Was New Mexico's... No. Where was it? We'll get to it. He's never been... The most he's ever been sacked in a single game was three times. He was sacked twice as many times today.

And he still just kept ripping. It was New Mexico State. Thank you. They went into the fourth quarter, trailing by 24 points. He's been sacked six times. You know how easy it is to be like, not my day? I'm going to finish this game out, but like, I got nothing left in the tank.

It's that point. Coach Tate used to say, the quarterback coach at Richmond, and you talk about Mark Magnet gets over that wall faster than any human being ever. And I was like, what do you? Like, it's that point where you decide as a human being. And it's all mental. What am I going to give in this moment? And Pavia just gave everything.

And it got him back in a game where they got to kick an onside kick, almost got the onside kick. My gosh, that ball was hanging around the sideline. It felt for an eternity. I was actually surprised they didn't get that onside kick. And had they, that son of a bitch would have found a way to at least go to overtime. But I want to give them the love. Like, I actually learned more from Pavia today, and I feel like we all know a whole lot about them.

but that fourth quarter, I'm a pavia guy now, full in. And I kind of had a foot and a half in the door before. He's flat out awesome, man. Like that is a human will at its finest. And I say all these things because I wanted to get it out of the way. Oh, and Eli Stowers, we haven't seen a tight end, by the way. And this is a tight end class with a lot of talent, okay? Yeah.

There has not been a tight end to have a singular performance. like Eli Stowers had for Vanderbilt today. And if they have, I missed it. He was seven for 146 with two touchdowns. And if you look at like the rest of the team, nobody else stepped up and had like big performances. They couldn't run the ball. The protection sucked.

And a bunch of receivers had like three or four. He was the guy. It was a two-man show with Pavia and Stowers. I love Stowers. Your boy, Michael Trigg, had A for 155 against Kansas State, not nearly the stage, not nearly as big of a stage. Fuck off, Mench. Pulling that nugget out right now when I'm...

You put them on my radar, man. Sure. So it was up there, the two best performances we saw one of them today from Stowers. But I want to get to this, because here's the real story of this game. I told you after Oklahoma, I've seen this story before. I hope it's not Fool's Gold. And ever since Oklahoma, that Oklahoma win where they look great.

And Eli, Eli, and Arch looked like Eli or Peyton, Arch looked like a Manning. Yeah. And it's, and you felt like I just had this sense that they weren't there yet. And they weren't. And they've struggled the last couple outings. And it took overtime against Kentucky, right?

And today was the first time, and I wrote it in my notes. This feels. different. It's what we all signed up for. On both sides of the ball, right? Both sides of the ball, but we all signed up for nationally, the Arch Manning show. Okay.

And he's had good moments, and we've all been like, is this it? Today it felt real. And why do I say it felt real? Because the thing that's outside of the external pressure, No players ever entered into a season with more external pressure. Number one overall draft pick hasn't even been a full-time starter. National Championship.

This team is going to get over the hump. We got Arch, not Quinn Neuers. Heisman can't, no, Heisman favorite hadn't even started a game as the first time full year starter. So the externals were a major part of it. But if you really got to know what was happening behind the scenes, it was Arch's eyes. Arch didn't know because he hadn't played enough ball.

And when he came in, he came in with packages, and he was given, here's a 12-play sheet. And yes, you started a game, but it was limited. And so this, and then he gets thrown into the wolves against Matt Patricia and that defense that is turning out to be one of maybe, the like we put it up in the legendary list of the alabamas and the miami 2001 and bama and like the 2011 2010 at USC with mowaluga and cushing and all those maniacs he got thrown in at the shoe yeah he didn't know where to go with his eyes

and i know that because i know that right and i always tell you these things when i feel like it's comfortable to tell you and because i know because i i actually have this information, okay? And there's been ups and there's been downs. And he's shown flashes and certain things. Today, I finally saw Arch get to be Arch. Because as I, and anyone who's played the quarterback position or anyone even just watched a lot of it and can only imagine, there's so many things that you

have to process that's coming in your ear now in the college helmet, being regurgitated to your teammates, pre-snap reads. what's the play clock looking like what's the coverage looking like is that blitzer is he hot where's the motion right yeah and I've been there where I don't know

where I'm going with my eyes and it's a disaster seeing ghosts seeing ghost hoping pressing and it's all the things we saw it's like why does arch look like this and now it's like well he played shitty high school football I told you what

today I saw a guy who was confident knew exactly where to go with his eyes. It's not these bad eyesight. It's because you don't know where to go with your eyes. You don't even know where to look to find the answer to the test. It's like being dropped into like calculus. And you're in fifth grade and you're like, hey, I'm just working on algebra. Pre-algebra or whatever.

You know what I mean? Yeah. It was his best game by far and it felt like him and Sark were growing in the same direction in the whole game. Right. They were right on the same page. And it looked like Wingo was going to have like the best game of his career. Let's throw, let's run an orbit.

Let's run an orbit behind the quarterback. Throw a quick swing. 75. See ya. See ya. 7-0. Longhorns. Shoot off the cannons.

Play the fight song. First play of the first offensive snap of the game, I think. First play from scrimmage in the game. 75. Okay. that happens and then and then he has one

they throw him one more screen a screen he picks up 14 I'm like shit we got we got two for like 90 almost 90 and a tutty we're like wingo's gonna have a this is going to be a big day then he goes it for him right he runs straight off the field

and goes into the tent apparently not fully reported but from what I could see what I could read today from people who were there and reporting on it. Sounds like a thumb injury. Don't know. We'll get more detail.

So he's gone, but the offense keeps rolling. Yeah. He threw a throw. I don't know if it's a crosser, but to the left side, across the backside of the linebackers. That's when I was like,

oh, my gosh, this is Arch. And dropping it in, threw it on time. He threw it early. Put it in a spot. It wasn't arch running and, like, creating.

It wasn't Sark. that's the thing too. Sark has put him in some good spots. It wasn't Sark drawn something up for him that made it look easy. It was him actually going through a progression on time, balls out, layers.

It was different. The Sark stuff for me was when he got him with that orbit motion to Wingo and then he did like some kind of double reverse flea flicker. And it just felt like he was getting Arch comfortable within the game plan to start with the first, the way he scripted that game

and then he was ready to take the training wheels off. I think it was just a matter of like building confidence and in here we go. This is going to like, you know, just get him, get him. You know, they say when shooters shoot that when as soon as they see the ball in go in, he just wanted him to see the ball go in and then we're off. And I felt like that's what they were doing. It was that drive up 10, 10, 10 nothing midway in the first quarter. When Manning, when Arch took him 83 yards, 10 plays, five plus minutes,

It was authoritative. It was confident. It was on time. And it was an absolute. And that was different. Yeah. I haven't seen that arrogance that you need to see from a great quarterback. It's been unconfident.

It's fuck you stop me. I saw that for March today for the first time. Not him standing over. some Sam Houston State linebacker who we carried in the end zone and like the swagger and the old arch why is you doing it? I'm talking real stuff.

Yeah, it got chippy today. I like that. It was good. That's fine. And I'm talking about the fuck you. You can throw anything at me. I've got the answer because I know where to go with my eyes and I know what I'm looking at finally. I think it's going to be different from now on for Arch. I'm not saying they're going to win out.

I'm not saying that they're, I'm sure there are going to be bumps. I'm telling you for the first time I can sit here confidently after a day of college football and say, now we can start the evaluation on who Archmanning is because he knows where to go with his eyes. He's trusting what he's doing. And I think anything now is fair game.

What we were studying before was him being thrown into the fast lane with the car that only went 35. It was a wreck waiting to happen. So now I feel like we've got, now, they gave up 21 points. It was a nightmare in the fourth quarter. And does that put a little sour on it? Does it yuck the yum a little bit, as my kids would say? Or used to when they're even younger and they hate me for saying that.

Yeah, it does a little bit, but it doesn't take away from the biggest takeaway. And the biggest takeaway is today was different. It was authoritative. It was confident. And I'm excited to see where it goes from here now. And now I look at Texas, Georgia. And now I look at Texas, Texas, A&M. And I say, we got games.

It's a fair fight finally. It was not a fair fight. That had to happen five weeks earlier. It's a fair fight. You're not worried about this team going on the road. I mean, they beat Kentucky by three. Mississippi State by seven lost to Florida. I'm worried about all of it.

And I'm like, who isn't? And I'm worried about like, yes. I'm just saying it was beyond worry before. I was going into a hatchet. I was going into a gunfight with a hatchet. Frank D. Felice used to say, going to a hatchet fight with a hatchet. He was,

it was going into a hatchet fight with a butter knife. Yeah. They were real close to losing the Mississippi State and the wheels really coming off on the season. I know. I'm just saying I'm now on record. And so you can hold me, accountable. If Arch does not

play it at a level that gets Texas in a position to win games and keeps them like right where they should be based off of the rest of the talent around and exceed that, then I was wrong. But I'm finally able to sit here with confidence and say, I think he's

ready for this now. I hope it keeps rolling. Me too. Emmett Mosley, the wide receiver, had eight receivers all, he had eight receptions all year. He had seven today. I mean, you know, you just adjust and found a different guy. You know what else I thought was awesome?

10 different Texas receiver or targets, 10 different skill position players for Texas got in on the 25 completions that arched through. He had two, Wingo had two for 84. We thought this was going to be the Wingo game. But he goes out in the first quarter. Yeah, M. M. M. M. Moseley. DeAndre Moore stepped up. They had 10 for 118 and one combined,

but it was all of them. And you know what happens when you actually can see the field and nowhere to look with your eyes and you're confident what you're doing. It doesn't matter the jersey number, the receiver, the speed, the height, or anything else. He went to Livingston or Livingstone early in the season because it's my roommate. He's a big target, and I know where he's going to be, even though I don't know exactly where to go with my eyes, but I trust it. He doesn't have to do that anymore.

Now is 13, right? Is Livingston? Now he's just his roommate and he's another target out there, you know? Yeah. Penn State, Ohio State. I don't care how long the show goes to. So buckle up, Dan. It's three hours behind there.

It's only like 942. The clubs will be waiting for you in L.A., I promise. Tucker, I'm sorry. I actually am sorry for you because you've been dealing me all day long. And Marissa, I'm sorry. Mench, I'm not. Yeah, it doesn't care.

Doesn't care. No, unless you tell me that's something you're going to get to. Penn State, Ohio State. You take us on this one. I guess obviously some thoughts. I'm rolling today. I mean, I know where you,

you are fired up, man. You're ready to go about Julian saying is, I don't even know. I can't wait to hear where you have to say about it. I begged you. I begged you. And everyone in the country who would listen, I begged you, buy his stock now. Because it's too late now.

You could have bought it at 10. Now it's $300. Spotlight player of the day. Saturday Spotlight player of the day. Here we go. I was going to let you start, but you started getting snippy with me. So beat it. Yeah, I am going to be snippy with you.

I'm snippy because saying 20 of 23, 87%. 316, 4 touchdowns. That's against Jim Knowles. That's the defensive coordinator who was there last year with Ohio State. I get it. Chip Kelly's not there, but still knows every. every heartbeat and palpitation that Ryan Day has and heartline has and every preconceived notion and trend beater that they,

eight games the season saying 19 touchdowns, just three picks. You know, it's hard. Go outside and throw the ball with Tyler. I get it. I get it. Take the times and see if you can complete 80% of them. That's what he's doing. I hear you.

I know. But we're just going to ignore the tipped pass where, you know, Jeremiah Smith's got to make like this most like a spider man and like snatch it out of the air. We're just going to ignore that. How good are those receivers? It's how they're unbelievable. And that that vaunted, that vaunted Penn State defense that gave up 42 to UCLA. Ooh.

I mean, like, dude, can we talk about this for a second? Yeah, but rationally though, we all agree. This is going to be a different level of lock in in preparation this week. This is going to be a different level of intensity. and fight. They didn't have to travel far, so that wasn't a problem. They didn't have the injury coming off.

Like, Penn State's literal last punch today. Really? Why do we think that? This is a team that's lost five games in a row. They've lost four games in a row coming into this game. Fine. I don't know.

I'm not sure, man. I hear what you, I hear your logic, right? But I'm not sure. And like, I don't want to get into the Penn State players too much about all that way. What are you not going to be?

Whether or not this was the best punch you were going to get from Penn State. I think this is a pretty beat-up Penn State team. I think this is a defeated Penn State team. Yeah, I'm saying whatever they had left in the tank, they were going to empty it today because they're not saving it for whatever the rest of their schedule is. I'm saying this, if they were ever going to play hard again as the 20-25 version of Penn State, today was going to be the day. And you saw the effort out there.

Sure. That's about what we can say. Okay, sure. What else is you seeing this game, Steve? Now that you're all of a sudden, you pick an interesting day to pick a fight with me on Julian's saying. It's just completed 87% of his throws. Not picking a fight with you.

I'm not picking a fight with you. I am saying that I'm just as impressed as you are. He has two. You have a guy who's Jeremiah Smith's going to be a top five pick when he comes out. I really believe that. I think Carnell Tate's going to be a first round pick. Bo Jackson, the running back, is coming on and looks awesome. I'm so excited about Bo Jackson.

You have all of these things in place. I really believe, I believe in my heart that Ohio State is the best team. I just want an Ohio State pod, drive the lane, right? And I'm talking to these guys, and it's the same thing with them. Ohio State fans cannot wait for the Michigan game because they really don't know what they have right now. They feel really good about it, man. I don't think they've seen. they're going to know after Michigan.

I don't know if they are either, but they want to get Michigan. I know. I grew up in that. I mean, they just wanted to get the Michigan game. I understand what they want to see. Yes. But if you win that game, it's going to be, it's going to be the greatest thing that ever happened.

And we finally over the hump and all those things. I honestly, like, that doesn't mean anything when you talk about the national championship running to me. For me, me too, by the way, they were more, they were more interested in the Michigan game than the national championship run. You don't, yeah. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a life. I hear you.

I really believe this team is awesome. I mean, Arvel Reese doing Arvel Reese things again today. I think they are the best team in the country and I'm not even sure it's by a little bit. But I'm tired of talking about like this was supposed to

be this test and I'm not going to pretend that it was. I can't pretend to me that this was some kind of litmus test for this defense at this point. I mean, the only team they played was Texas when Arch was just getting his feet wet. It's just I don't know. I want to see them play an SEC schedule. I want to see them play so. And you've made this point yourself, dude. Like, I want to see them play someone, but they're

awesome. I mean, Julian Sane is playing lights out. And Jeremiah Smith and Carnal Tate are freaking awesome. And I love Max Clare, the tight end. And the offensive lines, you know, playing well. And the defense is, I mean, they came in today. I think they were coming into this game. I think they were giving up 5.9 points per game. That is silly. I don't care. Again, you want to talk about I don't care about who you play. I mean, there's lots of teams who play weak schedules and not come even close to giving up that few points per game. So I get all of it. I'm just ready to see them, like, really show what they can do.

And I think they'll shine when they get the chance. I love Ryan Day. I love this team. I love the way it's played. I love the way it's built. But please don't tell me that, like, yeah, maybe you get your best punch for Penn State. But, like, I want to just see more. I want to see them have to go against someone.

I do love people that are some like-minded. CFC 806Z. We've got to change our screen. I need to know what your name is. Got more people than SVP and ESPN and his live chat. LFG. Let's crush them. Yeah, I like competing too, man.

And that's probably not true, but it doesn't matter. And I do love Steve. literally like two of my favorite people in this entire business and just people in the world. I just loved Scotty and I love Steve. But I was just, I was messing around. But yeah, I want to crush all. Let me ask you this. Ghost of Steve Adazio says right now,

play someone like the Mighty 3 and 5 Florida. And I would ask the ghost of Steve Adazio what Florida's record would be in the Big Ten? What do you think? Thank you. Thank you. We have this argument a lot. And by the way, I think Ohio State, he's like, someone wrote Ohio State would be Kentucky by 100.

I don't doubt it. I think Ohio State beats Florida. But there's only two. There's Kentucky. Are we going to do this right now? It's just making me mad. I'm getting defensive. You're right.

We shouldn't do it. I just got defensive. I'll leave it alone. I really don't want to do this right now. But there's Arkansas. By the way, like, okay, so there's Kentucky. Kentucky legitimately sucks this year. Arkansas, the problem when you start to talk about, okay, who are the two other teams that are at the bottom that suck in the SEC?

Both guys are going to be drafted in the NFL at quarterback. One of them might be the number one overall pick. So like what even though you got to go through and Alabama struggle with them because like they had won four straight overranked opponents the first time in the history of the SEC and had to go to. South Carolina, and they're playing potentially the number one overall pick in the 26 or 27 NFL draft. Yeah. And some really talented defensive play. And a top 10 draft pick at Edge in a year from now.

Stewart in 2027. Agree? Don't get me started. So Kentucky's the only easy true out. Arkansas is like just behind them. But even Arkansas, like you're going to have bumps and bruises. You ready, Big Ten lovers? And again, I grew up.

Marshall Brown. It doesn't mean I don't love Ohio State. Business. And I love Ohio State, Michigan. And I love the Big Ten. And I love the Big Ten. And my mom, my family lives in fucking Cincinnati. They're all Big Ten lunatics.

Yes. So it's not a bias. It's just. It is what it is, man. Let me give you this list. Who are the easy outs in the Big Ten? How about Purdue? Michigan State, Wisconsin, this fraud of a Penn State team.

Rutgers, that's five. UCLA? Yes, UCLA. Northwestern? That's seven. Minnesota's middle of the road? Like, I mean, no disrespect to Minnesota. I was having a sneaky good season, by the way.

By the way, I was having a sneaky season. A really good team. Minnesota's a good, solid team, middle of the road. Illinois's eh, but like, yeah, you got to fight. Nebraska's, But you got to fight. But we just gave you seven teams, Northwestern, UCLA, Maryland, Rutgers, Penn State this year, Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Purdue. They might all beat Kentucky except Wisconsin and Purdue.

Right. But they're going to be fights. Yeah. So that's, and again, I want to, I feel like I got to. off. I shouldn't have made it personal. This is what happens to. I do love a house. Sometimes you don't know why you're fighting with your significant other

until they lose their minds and finally tell you what's wrong. Because I knew you couldn't be yelling at me about Julian Sane. And I know he's freaking awesome. But you had. So next time stop fighting me on Julian Sain when he completed 87% today. And he looks like a truly progressing quarterback that very obviously to any asshole out there has a lot of talent. Just tell me what you want to fight about.

You want to fight about, you want on an Ohio State podcast, and you're not sure the level, and fuck you to the Big Ten and not the SEC and all that. Be honest if we're going to have arguments again, man. Yes. I think Julian San is good enough to win a national championship. There's nothing to suggest he's not. Yeah.

I didn't know that that was the case, and I thought they were going to have to do a lot more over coming if they were going to repeat as national champions than they are now. And now he has gone from, I don't want to say liability, but like, we're going to have to work around this young quarterback, but we're so good everywhere else that we can, we can win it to like, now you got to deal with him too. Yeah. And you've unlocked their greatest strength.

I mean, the receivers and what they can do with those guys is different now. And there are more good wide receivers in the country than you and I ever anticipated coming in this year. And there's going to be a much better draft class of wide receivers this year. And we're talking about like six, seven guys buying for position to get into the first round next year's class. And there's going to be a whole other six, seven, eight of them. There's going to be upwards of 14,

15 guys drafted in the first two round at wide receiver. There's wide receivers everywhere. Alabama's got two damn good ones. Jeremy Bernard and Ryan Williams are awesome. Indiana's got two really, really good ones. Omar Cooper was awesome again. to him in a second. Yeah. Yeah. And Elijah Serrat's the better pro prospect.

Yep. Texas has got some really talented ones. I'm missing and there's, I did this with you know, we're missing. Last week, I did this. Oh, Tennessee. We just saw Tennessee. Yep. Oh, Texas A&M. Oh, yes. What are we doing?

Yeah, yeah. Concepcion and Craver. Craver. Mario Craver, Casey, Concepcion. There's a lot of good duos in the country. When I tell you, it's so far from close that please don't even bring it to my doorstep. Like you saw Mecca, Buka comes in and he's like one of the top 10 receivers production-wise when healthy in the NFL right away. Yep.

And he wasn't even considered of the JSN, Chris Olavé, all the guys before, you know. And now we got the best maybe ever. Marvin Harrison Jr. They've had so many guys come out. Garrett, Garrett Wilson. Yeah. Just loaded. Yeah.

And Emeka wasn't at that level, talent-wise, right? But he's still one of the best receivers in the NFL right now as a rookie. Crazy. He doesn't get hurt. I mean, he's a runaway for the rookie of the year. And when I tell you, Carnell Tate, he's not at that level. but he's like not massively off. And every week I watch Cornell Tate.

Did you see that post? It was like a post corner route that he flattened to a seam. Yeah. It was against some version of a cover two when he let. You don't have to run a 4-3 or a low 4-4 to play at a 4-3 low-4. And that's the difference in Tate this year. That and the contested catches, more consistency catching the ball, right? The confidence when the ball in the air is part one that is different from last year with Tate.

Because I came in this year. I just looked at my grades. I'm going to pull it up right now. Let's go. This is from early in the season, preseason, when we just looked at wide receiver. I said there's a bunch of good ones. I don't know if there's any like, Jordan Tyson was up there, legitimate first round. Great, you and I talked.

Antonio Williams, I said 91, which is like fringe, but it's first round, like his tape a lot from Clemson. I still think you could go in the first round, worst case, top 50. Jeremy Bernard, 90 grade. really liked him. And then Carnell Tate, I gave an 84. Overshadowed, Mecca, Jeremiah Smith, but, but, Day 2, too.

But it was, like, basically that he wasn't polished to the level of a mecca and wasn't confident with the ball in the air, even though he only had three drops last year. Wasn't that, like, that, like, oh, balls up, go get it. Change both of those things. So back to that touchdown today, and I wrote it down. I think I texted.

It doesn't matter. It was a post corner that he flattened out in the seam. He leveraged the corner, got up on the safety, gave this and then burst it out. That safety, it must have been five, six, seven yards of separation. And I want to remind people, Carnell Tate reportedly ran like a four, seven. or something stupidly horrific coming in out of high school. Yeah. Scary that.

Yeah. They're tough, but they're a lot of times kind of accurate. Like they always get a little faster, but it's not, right. So I don't know if it's completely accurate. He's not going to be a 4-4 guy.

He's not going to be a 4-4 guy. And even the guys who you don't think are 4-4 guys at Ohio State, people joke it's a 39-yard 40 that they run in Columbus in April. or late March. But he's playing like a 4-4 receiver at a big physical frame because he's got like, no one has maybe in the history of college football has ever coached wide receivers up like Brian Hartland.

And yes, he has recruited some of the best ever. But I'm telling you, in 25 years of doing this, I've never seen anything like it. It's like they put them into this formula and they drop them into a, as an 18 year old, 17 sometimes, they drop them into this like factory of refinement and polish and they come, and they go in with a lot of positive things and they come out this like absolute NFL pass catching machine. And now you got a quarterback who's confident throwing to him. Oh, and by the way, saying today, I watched them throw into double coverage with confidence,

no hesitation to Jeremiah Smith. And that's when I said to myself, oh, so now we got a guy who's running NFL routes precisely. And we'll go up confidently to get the ball. And now we've got a quarterback who's confident enough. Because remember, don't fuck it up. Don't fuck it. Julian Sayan's job was to not fuck it up against Texas

in early this season. And then it became, we're getting out big in games in the second half. We're going to open things up and let you throw and take some chances. But now it's like, let's go. You're running our thing. Here we go.

And to see him throw the ball into double coverage and know his guys are just better than both of theirs guys combined, there were some real things I saw from saying and from that offense today that leads me to believe, like, it's going to be real hard to beat Ohio State this year, man. It's going to be really hard. I don't know there's a team out there on a neutral site that I would give that.

awesome of a chance to right now. That's how good I think this team is. Yeah, I wouldn't either. Like, I totally agree with you. There's no game that they go into right now on a neutral site where they're not favored. And I think like by like a significant amount. I think Bama might be the lead A&M, but I told you, A&M's getable. I'm calling it right now.

Oh, I agree. A&M is getable and Marcel Reed is unbelievable, but he's going to be part of how they get got. I promise you. A&M, but they do have, they have some soft spots. They are dangerous. I think Alabama is, hey, find this out on Monday when you decide to come back to work, Tucker. I'm just kidding. Tucker's celebrating a world series win right now.

Tucker is literally like the hardest working man in his job and one of the hardest working people out there. Like he, I'm just messing on them because he's, because he's a good dude. find out would Alabama on a neutral site versus Ohio State be the closest spread

would that be the narrowest the narrowest spread I think the spread would be larger against Indiana I think the spread would be larger against A&M

but I'm curious let's find that out for Monday but both things can be true right you can believe that about this Ohio State team and still and still be like

I want to see it I want to I want to see it yes you're right I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. Yeah. One of our 10 tape trues on Monday is going to be Fanduel giving us the truth on a couple of these odds.

And it will spark a discussion. I actually think it's good. It won't be a cop out. It'll actually spark a good discussion. Right. I already forget what the first one I was looking for. Me too. Brandon Innes, even, as a number three receiver.

Oh, and by the way, you've got a guy who's going to be one of the top five. six tight ends drafted who's just kind of an afterthought they get them a ball here and there when all the attentions everywhere else I don't think I think they're running game and I've said this from the beginning

is never going to be more than pedestrian but other than that I don't see the flaw you know Rvel Rees in addition to that sack and a bunch of other pressures had 13 tackles today dude it's silly combined you know tackles and assists solos yeah CJ Allen's was 12 solo, but that's 13 tackles, a sack, all the hurries.

All right. Yeah, it's one in the morning already, huh? The first was Indiana Ole Miss neutral site. Yeah, so that's going to be one of our tape trues on Monday. Can we talk about Miami now? I say so we get two segments left. Hang in there with us. How's our chat doing?

The first one is of the two, it's growing. You sons of bitches, I love you. I love how the world. I think the World Series ended. Ah, okay. However we get there. Right. However we get there.

Hey, Maris, send out a tweet. Ex post. We're still here, World Series Loonies. So the Dodgers won back to back. Yeah. Congratulations. But like not really. Red Sox.

All right, what's the next segment? ACC, right? This was an absolute unmitigated disaster for the ACC today. What do you mean? This is the ACC that Clemson was supposed to lead the charge with Miami right behind him this year. And then Clemson came out and it continues to be a disaster.

Say a prayer for Dabo and all the followers there. Like this is a mess. Do you see that meltdown from Dabo? Oh, yeah. Sideline. Dude, they gave up 46 points. And then bitching about the refs at the, yeah, it's just not a good look. No.

The youth's just fucking putting it on Cincinnati. Sorry, Jeff Lewis. Yeah. I thought it was going to be a different situation here. Yeah. ACCC nightmare. Number eight Georgia Tech goes down to NC State and kind of like hung around, battled and all that stuff, but kind of just got beat.

It wasn't a fluke. It wasn't a last minute comeback. They just were like down seven to 10 to 14 points this entire game. Lost by 12, man. Lost by 12. And that's about what the difference was. It was a two score game, the entire game. it felt like.

And all of a sudden, it went from 38 to 30. And, and I just talked about Tim Tebow 2.0. And maybe, and maybe he has that old miss, 2008 Tim Tebow speech for the, for the media and his,

and his teammates to hear. And maybe, do you know what his numbers were tonight? They were, they were increasing as we went. He threw for 408 yards and ran for 103. It's never going to be Haynes. It's just,

does Haynes have enough to overcome all the other, issues. He had 511 yards of total offense. He's unbelievable. He's Tim Tebow in 2025. I don't know. I don't know what else to tell you. Tim Tebow never leave this game. Tim Tebow lost this game to Ole Miss. I just gave you the answer to the test. You walked right in the track. So Georgia's, so the ACC has, Miami had a loss, but they're still in it.

They're still ranked 10. Co. 10, by the way. I forget who they were co-10 with, but that's like AP, pick it. one and the other. But they were co-10 in the polls this week. BYU, maybe. I didn't even notice it. That's gross. I know.

I just noticed it tonight. It was BYU. Yeah. But they were still ranked 10. And SMU got a win against a top 10 opponent. And had they beat BYU, they would have got a win against the top 10 opponent. But you got Miami clinging to life and still like a big program. Irvin's, Michael Irvine's on the sideline, and Carson Beck's going to bounce back,

and we got all this talent. And Malachi Tony is the best freshman in college football and all this stuff. Still promoting, like we're moving the ACC train forward. Clemson had to jump off early in the season. But we got Miami and we got Georgia Tech. We got Haynes King and we got the Canes. And then November 1st, 2025 happened. and this conference got gutted.

Are you not as excited about that UVA team? And then UVA, even the two wins that they got for their ranked opponents, UVA is uninspiring. They keep winning. I know they do, but like who are we kidding? Can we just be honest? I'm sick and tired of like 31, 21, 21. They had a 10 point win, Cal.

But they go grinded out another win. and Louisville, you know how big of them. And I love Virginia. I love... Louisville and Pitter. And Lisa and the Wood family and Uncle Craig and all my cousins are all... And I love Charlottesville and I love the Longs.

And apparently Roebuck is made there. The boys from Charlottesville, like, I got family there, man. And I'm polling for them. I've always wanted them to be good. But like, we're not... And we're going to get into the different classes. in college football

when their TMS top 12 coming up in a minute. But in Virginia, like, uninspiring, Louisville against Virginia Tech 28, 16, uninspiring.

They're just, they are who they are. They belong in the top 25. They're not top 15 teams. Even though the one or both of them might sneak in, they're not top 15 teams this year. So where do you turn now?

Because now you're looking at a two loss. I'll pull it up. you're looking at a two loss. I mean, it's going to be Virginia. Can you imagine Virginia Georgia Tech is your ACC championship game? No. Look, I think Georgia Tech is in real trouble. I mean, they gave up 196 rushing yards to North Carolina State's backup running back.

C.J. Bailey, the starting quarterback for North Carolina State, banged up. North Carolina State didn't have its starting tight end. I mean, there's, this may have revealed some things. about Georgia Tech. I wouldn't be surprised if they lost the pit and then they have Georgia. Georgia Tech's gone from the feel good story of the year

and Haynes King being awesome to they're in trouble, man, because of that defense. Do you know what I'm rooting for? Chaos. Well, there's already chaos if you look at it right now. I know.

Georgia Tech has, Virginia is the only team in the ACC without a loss. Georgia Tech. Because they lost the North Carolina State in a game that was a non-conference game. Makes sense to that, McShay.

It's good point. I forgot about that. That's wild. I don't understand things. They don't make sense to me. Georgia Tech with Haynes King, who I absolutely love. Louisville,

Riley Moss and the Braum brothers, absolutely love. Chris Bell, that wide receiver. SMU, awesome win today. Jennings, just a dude. Like, awesome athlete. Oh, love them. Love the head coach, but they're not there this year.

All those programs. Virginia, Georgia. Louisville SMU. I don't want them in the ACC championship game. You know who I want? Do you know who I want, Steve? Duke? I want your guy versus my guy. I want

Darian Mensa versus your youngster pit. That's what I want. It would be awesome. But they're all in it. They're all in it. But the ACC might only get one in, man.

Oh, they should only get one in. And the big 12 is only getting one in. Yep. You got to make room for those other teams, man. There should be five from the SEC this year. If Texas holds up its end of the bargain. Minimum four. All right.

But it was a disaster. Yeah, can we talk about Miami really quick? Do you know that Mario Cristobal, the head coach of Miami now is six losses to teams that were double-digit underdogs to Miami? Six losses. penalties of key moments. Carson Beck.

I said one of our tape trues this week is watch out for Carson Beck because he likes to throw him in bunches, baby. And he had two today. You nailed it. You absolutely nailed it. And the one in overtime was as bad as it gets. Horrible. All kinds of time, had all kinds of space held on to the ball.

Malachi Tony maybe run a better route, a little bit of a better route. I don't care. It's a terrible pick by Carson. Beck. And then did you see the comments after the game? Yes. They were calling the same thing. I just execute the bullet. I just go, like, dude, what are you talking about? Have some

accountability, man. Like, have some accountability. So you look at this Miami team now and you worry about this. You know what? I got to give me one second because I want to pull up these numbers for you. And tell me how Miami, how does Miami freaking lose

this game, okay? Miami held SMU to 3 of 13 on 3rd down and 0 for 1 on their 4th down. They're rushing. SMU average 0.9 yards per rush today. 0.9.

Miami held the ball for 37 minutes and 42 seconds. Because they don't have any confidence in their quarterback and their offense. How do you find to do something? You know what happens? You know what happens when you date it? really like a smoke show. Yep.

From the club. You ever see that? Yeah. Except for my wife. Yes. Iris is an absolute smoke. There I said it. Remember,

have you ever seen that video and probably Twitter or wherever it was? It's on YouTube somewhere. I'm sure you can find it. It's one of the funniest videos I've ever seen. Finding like the sweet spot between beautiful, like hot and crazy. Yes.

Yes. Well, this team looks so hot. And then one day you wake up. and you realize there's no substance there, there's a phrase I want to use. I'll probably get in trouble for it. I didn't create the phrase.

Find me a supermodel and I'll find you a dude who's sick of fuckinger. That's the, that's the quote. Oh, okay, dude. It's a live show. But like, it's 130. 115 or whatever. Jesus Christ, man. My point is, like, all the things,

and I talk to the Ferraris and the Cavalry's in the cabinet. Like, I'm over all that. I'm just saying, like, there's got to be substance. And all the reports were the first one in, the teammates love them and all that stuff. But you start coming out and you start blaming everybody else in the building instead of the accountability. And it's not even about the press conference stuff. It's about what's actually going on. Why is it there doesn't seem to be a lot of confidence in this offense?

Why is it something's just, I kept writing something's missing. Yeah. They got him on the, they had him on the rope so many times today. And it's like, do the coaches not trust him in these moments? And then the coaches give him some trust. And then he fails him. And nothing was. And then I see the coordinator, blanking right now,

screaming at Cristobal, but he's never screaming about one of the running back. There's just always seems to be some of this stuff associated with this team. And you had a quarterback last year that actually truly, at his core is one of the most accountable. Get in your face. I don't care what's going on with the coaches. I don't care if you like your position coach. I don't care if Christobal makes bad decisions,

caught management. I don't care if we're undisciplined. We have penalties. You will be accountable to me. And to be accountable to me is to be accountable to every one of your teammates and this program. Yeah. And he did that.

Cam Ward did that for Miami. And the defense sucked. And the offense was good, but wasn't exceptional around him. It wasn't Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate, you know? No. But they put up points in bunches because there's enough talent in Miami to do it when you have a quarterback who, yes, has unbelievable talent, but keeps everyone in line. Now you fast forward this year, I would argue they actually have more talent Miami offensively.

Yeah. And the quarterback's really talented when he's happy and things are going well. he's confident, but when things don't start to go well or there's those tough moments, it's the same reason that the folks in Athens didn't even say thank you for your service. They just said, no, thank you. Gunner's our guy. He is who we thought he was. That's what I, that's what I, that's what I'm getting right now. Yeah. So that sucks for Miami and that sucks for the ACC. But if there's, if there's a silver lining, like, Pitt's actually.

a good football team. They're fun. They're going to be interesting. Duke's actually like a dangerous football team. And yeah, they almost lost to Clemson. But like, I don't know. It could be, we all now know the ACC definitively is only getting one team into the college football playoff.

So let's just all sit back and relax. And let's watch five, six different teams fight it out during this last month and see what happens. Yeah. You know, it's going to be kind of fun to watch. I agree. If I had a who do you think? Oh, the ACC, this is a great poll if you're still on the chat.

And the chat keeps growing. This is awesome. So who's winning the ACC poll? I'm going to ask you this, Steve. And I'm telling you, you got to go to your bank and take $1,000 out. Mm-hmm. A thousand dollars that could go to your baby girls college fund. And, no, $5.29.

Yep. But you're either going to lose it or you're going to win like five to one odds. Who's winning the ACC, Georgia Tech, Virginia, Louisville, or the field. And the field includes SMU, Duke, Pitt, and even Miami with two losses in the conference. I'm going to go with Georgia Tech. Because as much as I give you a hard time, I really believe in Haynes King and Brinkie. And I think the one team that I think, Louisville is the second. second best team. I think Georgia Tech is the best team in the ACC. And I think Louisville is the

second best team. So I'm going to go Georgia Tech because I think they're the best team. I think they'll find a way to beat Pitt. Georgia will be tough. But then they... I went with the field. But Georgia Tech is currently leading 41%. I did. I think something crazy is going to happen. I think SMU found a little bit of life today. I think Pitt is sneaking. I know Narduzzi and Narduzzi, love him or hate him. And I've been around people who both, like, truly love the guy and some people just can't take him for their own personal reason. Yeah. He is at his finest in this exact position.

Oh, poor little pit. Everyone counted us out. Yeah, we're up in Western PA. We play football up there a little bit, but, you know, don't worry about us. We'll try not to get in anyone's way. He's in his sweet spot right now. This is when he's the most dangerous. Nobody's talked about Pitt.

Eli Holowitz, this program's left for dead. We'll see you next year, but we might be in three years. Watch out for Pitt. And Men's got to beat Notre Dame Georgia Tech in Miami. Darian Menz is the best quarterback in the ACC, right? He, oh. Better than Clubnet. No, Haynes King.

Haynes King. Yeah, yeah. I don't even. Yeah. I get what you're saying. He's not even a quarter. Passer. Oh, definitely.

Best passer. Easily the best pastor. Yeah, I mean, Haynes King's different. I mean, he's not even a quarterback. He's just, he's some kind of Greek God. Yeah.

All right. Let's get to it. I hate to see this show in. This is one of my favorite shows of all time. All right. AP, yeah. It's the TMS top 12. It's a consensus.

We do it every week the end of the show. We might change the rule slightly when we get to the, get close to the end in the college football committee. We might have to put in, like, who we think will represent. We might even break out a bracket, but it's always going to be the TMS top 12, all right? And we start the jumping off point to give people who are watching on YouTube and later on Spotify or even listening. I'll read the graphic for you. There were four teams in the top 12 this week in the AP top 12 that had a buy. So now we're down to eight, right? Ohio State, Indiana, Georgia, all the top six, all the top seven won, Georgia and Ole Miss. Those are all

teams in the top seven. They all won. Then it got interesting. Eight through 12 was a disaster. Notre Dame hung along in the heights a lot longer than Notre Dame wanted them to, but they pulled away from BC. You and Miami are tied, not a typo. Yes, we already covered that, Dan. Thanks for coming back from getting all dolled up for the club. Here we go. I don't know.

Listen, I don't know why he's such a bad mood with you guys, Dan and Tucker, but I don't want any of that rubbing it off on me. You guys are the best team of the business. Maybe you just, you don't calm down. I've said a thousand times. Yeah, out of one side of your mouth, you say how great they are. And the other side, you're talking about scooters and clubs. Hey, Tucker, sweetheart.

Can you throw that graphic back up for one second? There it is. We had three losses. Georgia Tech, Vanderbilt, and Miami. Eight, nine, and ten. One of two tens this week. It's wild this year. Last week was the only week where we came in

where I felt, well, there wasn't much movement. So now we've got all this movement. Here's what I want to explain, okay? And I spend a lot of time on this today because maybe it's my own learning disabilities or challenges. I like to put everything in boxes and have, examples so people can think about it or it's outside of just, here's our top

12. I want to view this as you're boarding a plane, Steve, as you and I now have done a lot. Here we go. Yep. In a good 767, whether you're flying across the country to the Midwest from one of the coasts or to international. A good 757,

767, a nice plane, right? there's a first class and my God the nice ones are nice you can you lay back you get your own little cubicle you know yeah it's not emirates in the states but like we get some really nice ones then you get the business class really nice a lot of the luxuries that you have in first class right but maybe you don't get quite the service or get the service as fast maybe a couple things missing not quite there. Then you've got economy. And even within economy, there's a class system.

Usually the people are smart enough who book their flights in advance and get online and pick their seats sometime, right? Yeah. Inside economy has the extra leg room and the exit row seats, right? More space. You're not getting the first class service. you're not getting to lay back completely horizontally. You're not getting to stuff the first two classes get,

but it's going to be a nicer ride than if you're stuck in 34B between someone who smells and someone who, you know. Yeah. All right. So with all that said, in my mind, if you go off this class system within the beautiful 767,

everyone wants to be in first class. It's got it all. Yep. There's four teams in that class. Agree? And so it's a privilege to be in this class, especially if you're a one-loss team in this class. It's Ohio State, as we all know.

It's Indiana. It's Texas A&M, and it's Alabama. Right. Agree. Those are the four. Are you comfortable with that order, or do you want to T. Do you want A&M, too?

No. No, I'm good. There's a business class. Just about everything is good as first, but there's something missing. Maybe I get my meal a lot long, a lot later. Flight attendant is, I'm trying to get

whacked on this flight. I want eight drinks. I'm flying over to, I'm flying to Japan. I'm only getting five for some reason, but I know that guy up in three Cs getting eight to ten if he wants. Whatever it is. Georgia,

Oregon, Ole Miss, and quite honestly, you want to know the truth? Here's the truth. And I can't do it because they played head to head. So it's got to be Georgia, Ole Miss, Oregon for me. Agree. But I think if they have to face one another again,

I think Ole Miss beats Georgia. Interesting. Georgia, Ole Miss, Oregon. So that's our 5, 6, 7. But Oregon at Iowa next week, by the way. I want to see how that goes. Now it gets interesting. Now we're in coach.

And now there's a whole bunch of people in coach. In economy, I think we're supposed to call it this PC world we live in. Georgia Tech was in there with the extra leg room and the exit rows. They're gone. Here's. Are they? Yeah. They're not in that section.

I get what you're saying. Yeah. And like I said, there are structures within. There's the extra extra leg room. You got to pay like $25 per. Or if you're smart enough and you get it and you go get the exit row, there's, there's, I think there are 10 to 12 programs, teams that are kind of fluctuating that can kind of come in and out of this.

But at the top is the extra leg room. You pay an extra 25. At the top for me, it's not. Notre Dame. Yes. It's Texas Tech. Okay. It's BYU and it's

Oklahoma. Interesting. Okay. And I honestly think Oklahoma's, I know Oklahoma is better than BYU.Y. You get the fuck. I agree. They're not. So it's, it's,

Notre Dame is going to be eight. Oklahoma is going to be nine. Texas Tech is 10. And I think BYU has got to be 11 for now. But by the way, folks, just in case, I don't expect everyone who's watching or listening, how great is it?

We're going to sort some things out immediately on Saturday. BYU is going to be ranked in the top, probably in the top 10. Yep. The AP voters, because they love a zero. They just love a zero. They can't independently think. They love a zero. Texas Tech, BYU next week.

where is that game that game i think it's in love it's no it's in love but game day's going there first time game day's going since since uh michael crab tree okay that was the last time i was in lubbic i was in lubbock with game day radio with uh ryan rsillo and i i came in late i had something early in the day i came in on friday night i went to one of those hotels in lubbock where we're anywhere but like in lubbock you can only imagine there's not there's there's not many halves and there's when it's the have nuts there it's you know it's worse than 34b between two people you don't want to sit and i walked into this place at like 1130 at night i got in and there was no one at the front desk you had to like call a number if you needed anything but they left you like you could get

your key somehow i forget how you could grab my key went up to my room it's now it's like past midnight when i finally figure like whatever i get up to the room i pull the sheets out i'm exhausted it was like and i wasn't i wasn't in first or business back then 2000 2008. No, 2000. All right. What'd you find? Pulled the sheets down. There's blood all over the sheets. Oh, God. It was Halloween weekend. There's blood in the sheets.

People outside are all dressed in costumes, partying their asses off on a Friday night, Halloween week. It was Halloween that Saturday night. And they still were, you know, parties the night before. And so it's just like a creepy scene. What am I going to do? Call this guy. He's going to come 45 minutes away. So I'd like lay a towel down. and yeah, it was bad.

That was my last trip. But it ended well because Michael Crabtree with the touchdown beat the number one team in the country, Vince Young in Texas. Yeah. You know? Sprinting around the end zone, yep.

Yeah. So that was that. But anyway, next week, huge game in Lubbock, biggest game since that Michael Crabtree game. So you have two big 12 teams in the top 12 right now. Yeah, well, one is going to get knocked out.

Yeah. Okay. So that gets us to 11. Who's at 12? Here's my question to you. Cincinnati was, I put them in the question mark. Get out of here, Mention's pick of the week. I'm on a heater today.

My 12 is Texas, and this is the part I thought you were going to have a problem with. Okay. Missouri is the only other candidate that I could live with. If you started with Virginia or one of these other ACC teams, like the ACC has got to play a program into the TMS top 12 as far as I'm concerned. But you can argue with me. This is ours. Yeah.

I'm sorry to come around on what you're saying, though. I think Vanderbilt's there, but they lost to Texas today. So. Yeah, and here's my point. If Notre Dame is in there because of two great losses, I'm not saying Texas is as good as. But Miami's not that great anymore. They got one great win.

No, you're right. And Texas just beat the number nine team in the country, the media darling. Yeah. And they actually kicked their ass today. Let's be honest. They took their foot off the gas late. It's a younger team.

Played some prevent. Pavia's a veteran. Shredded them apart. Things got tight. Whatever. They kicked Vandy's ass today in Austin. Yeah. And look, I mean, you look at,

so there are Texas's two losses are Ohio State by seven and a Florida team that everyone in the, like anyone in the football, College Football University knows is like the best, what are they three and five now? They're the best three and five team in the country. I mean, no one wants to play him. Kirby talked about not one. No,

we talked about not wanting to play him today. And they, and they had them 2420. They had them 2420. 2420. Fourth and one. The 651 left. Yeah.

He just scares the shit out of me. They almost lose to Mississippi State and that they have these, you know, like. I'm not saying their body. of work that I'm thrilled about them at 12. I'm just saying I saw him be the number nine team in the country. If you, a top 10 team, it was number nine Vanderbilt today. And it didn't feel as close as it ended up being. We saw him beat an Oklahoma team that just went on the road to Neal and beat.

Yeah, and beat Tennessee. And yeah, it was the first game back. But like they kind of pushed Oklahoma around a little bit. Like they felt like they were the better team. Not just the, yeah. not just exploiting a quarterback to the better team. You're talking to me to them.

I kind of buy it. All right, so Texas is 12. With Missouri still lurking around there, Virginia will get its love if they deserve it. Yeah, they don't pass the eye tests when I watch them. You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't add up for me. So here it is again.

Ohio State 1, Indiana 2, Texas A&M 3, Alabama 4. Georgia 5, Ole Miss 6, Oregon 7. then the top of the tier, the extra legroom and the exit row, best seats you can find in the economy are Notre Dame with two losses, Oklahoma with two losses, Texas Tech with one loss, BYU undefeated,

and Texas. I had to talk him into it, folks, at 12. All right. I'm buying it. Go get some. sleep. Hey, we still have like over 600 people in this chat. We appreciate you. You guys are awesome.

Thank you very much. CFC. I got to get to know you better. You had a couple of cool things I thought today. Ghost of Steve Azizio is rolling tonight. Always trade back. You've literally been in this chat, brother, since 1.30. I connected with you on X today and keep it rolling. Matt, I mentioned Matt Matias. Yeah, the ghost of Steve Adazio, who you mentioned already. He's been on a run. The name's great. Jeremy Godden is one of the other. I never got God in some Cape Cod stuff.

He did. You gave him a, you gave him a recommendation. He said it was great. Yeah. But we appreciate it. Haas is getting a little, he's getting a little too big for his britches.

I feel like he's, he's got other things. Maybe he's over with Van Pelt and Stanford, Steve. Oh, my God. Stop. Hey, and just so you know, Tucker, I love you. Dan, I love you. We would be nowhere without you.

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