The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 353: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia XVIII

Episode Date: July 27, 2022

Spencer Neuharth hosts MeatEater Trivia with Steven Rinella, Andrew Zimmern, Kevin Gillespie, Brody Henderson, Sean Weaver, Byron Dumbrill, Phil Taylor, and Corinne Schneider.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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without cell phone service as a special offer. You can get a free three months to try out OnX if you visit onxmaps.com slash meat. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Spencer Newarth, and today we're joined by special guest and professional chef Andrew Zimmern. In addition to Andrew, we also have Steve, Brody, Kevin, Corinne, Byron, and Sean. Now, Andrew, how do you feel about trivia? I love trivia.

Do you? Yeah. The minutia of the world fascinates me. And in what way do you consume trivia if you love trivia. Do you? Yeah. The minutia of the world fascinates me. And in what way do you consume trivia if you love trivia? I'm a voracious. If you stop being teachable in life, you're a loser. So life is an endless learning process. So I suck up a lot of information.

Just everything's trivia to you. I just absolutely adore it. So if all 10 questions have to do with North American fruits that are not consumed publicly, I will win that. Sadly, none of them are. Shit. Now, before we get started, I have to tell you, Andrew, your restaurants have served me the best stadium food I've ever had. I'm a big Vikings and Twins fan, so I try to make a regular pilgrimage to, like, U.S. Bank Stadium and Target Field. And genuinely, the lamb sandwich from the AZ Canteen is incredible. It's, like, too good for stadium food, actually. It is, and consequently, that's why it's no longer there at the stadium.

Oh, no. Yeah. When did that stop? During COVID. Okay. And then they came back with all the big, you know, all the big companies realized they were wasting a lot of money paying people like me to do food there, and they would make more money off of chips and Diet Coke. Was there a shift in your lifetime where stadium food, like, got good all of a sudden?

Yes. When did that happen and why? It was 2007. All of the big companies that run food at stadiums and airports realized they had a captive audience that was becoming more food aware. And so they reached out to well-known personalities and put their food into their first, their local stadiums and airports. And then if they had a national brand, perhaps they got some other stuff. And so our, our business at that point, we were in like seven stadiums and, and at its height taking real wild pasture, well,

pastured Minnesota lamb, chickens, uh, you know, whole animal rotisserie, uh, of other kinds. We put pigs and goats and stuff on there and, and you could buy it by the pound or on sandwiches, you know, with homemade ice cream and homemade, uh, we made it like a zip, like a little Italian donut hole. Um, it was a great booth. It thundered business. I mean, it was incredible, but they were also paying us a fee to license it and all the rest of that kind of stuff.

So gradually the, the, all these companies have learned, why are we paying an extra X percent to to these well-known people that said that we just own it ourselves hurts my enthusiasm a little bit to go back mine as well i love by the way i love that was one of my favorite jobs ever because i got to make food for families because if you're gonna pay 14 for a stale piece of pizza that was made the day beforehand and hot held in cardboard for 24 to 32 hours, there's no way it curls your toes when you buy it. So we're ripping off parents and their kids. It's too expensive for the average American family to go to a sporting event. So we were like, if we're going to charge whatever, 14 bucks for a chicken sandwich, that family better say, that's the best chicken sandwich I ever had. And I think in some cases we pulled it off.

I love it. You did it well. Now, if you're not familiar, this is a 10-round quiz show with questions from Meat Eaters 4 Verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking. And there is a prize. Meat Eater will donate $500 to the conservation organization of the winner's choosing. And for the stat of the week, this week.

If you get a perfect game. We're going to go to 1,000 if you can get a perfect game. Brody claims to have thrown two nines. Whoa. I had a perfect game, I think. Was it the first game ever, Spencer? I think it was the fourth game ever. You threw a perfect game.

You like that stat, Steve? Wow. Now, for the stat of the week, this week. I don't think I believe that stat, Steve? Wow. Now for the stat of the week this week. I don't think I believe that stat. See, Steve was here. He was sitting in that chair when it happened. You witnessed the perfect game. Really? Is that true?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever. Now the stat of the week this week, we're going to look at how different players perform in each vertical. We'll start off with Steve. Steve's best category. Do you have a guess as to what your best category is of the four? This is a big question because I don't agree with your categorization. So, fishing. I better do

well in fishing. Fishing is your best category where you get 65% of questions correct and your worst category is hunting where you get 54 54 percent of questions more than half of them right yeah next up is brody maybe it's like you're not that good at making those questions that could be now next up is brody whose best category is hunting brody gets an amazing 87 percent of hunting questions correct. No way. Yes. And his worst category is fishing, where he gets 53% of questions correct.

Then we have Cal, whose best category is cooking, where he gets 74% of questions correct. And his worst category is hunting, where he gets 41% of questions correct. And finally, there's Giannis, whose best category is also cooking, where he gets 76% of questions correct. And finally, there's Giannis, whose best category is also cooking, where he gets 76% of questions correct. And his worst categories are conservation and hunting, where he gets 53% of questions correct. His worst are the rest of the categories.

How many times have you played this? Like three or four times. I'm terrible. I'm just here for color commentary. How do you do on the cooking questions? Ace the cooking questions. Oh, okay. I keep trying to bribe Spencer to go real heavy in the cooking for once, but it hasn't happened.

Well, I'd like to point out that he'll usually throw guests a bone. Oh. Which is total bullshit. He threw the guest 10 bones last time. It didn't work out for him. It didn't work out for the guest 10 bones last time. It didn't work out for him. It didn't work out for the guest? No. Now, on a previous episode of Meat Eater Trivia,

we talked about how Anthony Bourdain said in his 1999 book that you shouldn't order seafood from a restaurant on Monday. His logic was that at the time in his home city of New York, fishmongers were closed on weekends, meaning that when Monday's fish was served, it was at minimum a few days old. But in a 2015 interview, Bourdain changed his tune. Here's a quote that he gave Tech Insider then. Look, do me one favor, people.

Please eat the fish on Monday. That was 16 years ago. It was a very different world. Regrettably, that's, you know, don't eat fish on Monday is going to be on my headstone. But it's almost two decades later. Things have changed. Eat the damn fish. So there you have it.

It is okay to order seafood on a Monday. Is that a law that you guys had heard before, Kevin and Andrew, that you've abided by or not? It just depends, you know. It's not, it was not a a black and white scenario because it really has to do with but it does have to do with your purveyors like and so a lot of folks would get it in for several days but there's also plenty of seafood that can sit in ice for a few days and be fine sure no big deal i'm old so i remember a time in new york when i was first coming to this business as a teenager working summers and your, your purveyors would deliver twice a week.

Right. So the, the, the don't eat fish on Monday was a great piece of advice and why everyone could relate to it. Um, but yeah, I mean, very soon after that, the food world exploded, probably even before Tony mentioned there. And you can now get seafood delivered almost seven days a week. Yeah. From any part of the world. Correct. So that rule does not apply anymore.

But don't eat sushi at a 7-Eleven. I mean, we're not there yet. That is the caveat is where you're doing it. Discount sushi has always been a bad idea. Yeah. I mean, yeah. And with that, we're on to meat eater trivia. Play the drop, Phil.

Look, I need to know what I stand to win to everything. How's that? Just stand to win everything. Game on, suckers! Question one. This will be top multiple choice, and the topic is hunting. Which of these hunting magazines

is oldest? Peterson's Hunting, Fur Fish Game, North American Whitetail, or Sports Afield? Again, which of these hunting magazines is oldest? Peterson's Hunting, Fur Fish Game, North American whitetail, or sports afield? Some quick, confident answers in the room it looked like.

What are you putting down, Brody? I'm torn, I'll tell you that. Me too. I know which ones you torn between yep it's a hunting vertical so he'll get it right more than likely that's right this would be 87 more than likely get it right no that's fishing not as likely there's some real money ball stuff going to be born out of this yes for sure for sure it's turning into baseball there's a statistic for everything that's taken we're in a we're Well, you know what we played the other night?

We were down in Louisiana. We had rented a house that had a pool table, and we were playing three ball for dollars. That was fun. Mm. Yeah. I walked off with a big stack of cash. Mm. Does everybody have an answer?

No. I quit, too, after I won. No. Went to bed. Your options again, Brody, are Peterson's hunting, Furfish game, North American whitetail, and sports field. You're just trying to confuse me now. Okay.

I know what he's debating. You tell me when you're good, and we will reveal the answers. I know what they are. Furfish game, North American whitetail, and sports field. He's trying to confuse me now. Okay. I know what he's debating. You tell me when you're good, and we will reveal the answers. I'm going with my original. Brody's brain is arguing with his homunculus. That's right. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying sports of field. Andrew saying sports of field.

Kevin saying sports of field. Brody saying sports of field. Corinne saying furfish game. Sean saying sports of field. And Byron saying sports of field. Brody saying sports afield. Corinne saying furfish game. Sean saying sports afield. And Byron saying sports afield. That's the correct answer, sports afield. And I know you were debating furfish and game. And Corinne scratched out sports afield and went furfish and game.

Sports afield is the oldest outdoor publication in North America. It's not even really, it's like, it's not like what, it's still a thing. It always gets like bought by someone or another. I mean, they're still putting out six issues a year. So it's more of a thing than most outdoor magazines. It's very much different. Like when I was a kid, it covered everything. Like how to catch catfish on cut bait.

It became kind of, it's kind of like a didn't it become kind of a marketing rag? Like didn't, yeah, it's very like travel, hunt, overseas kind of thing now. Is that what it is now? Well, Safari Clubs? I don't know yeah it's very like travel hunt overseas is that what it is now yeah well safari clubs i don't know it wasn't them either way next question it was founded in 1887 furfish game was founded in 1925 peterson's hunting in 1973 and north american whitetail in 1982 amazingly sports afield still publishes six issues per year even at 135 years old.

What's up? Its name is still actively used. Yeah. It's not the same publication. I'm not saying it's the same thing it was 135 years ago. Question two, the topic is cooking. If someone cooks you squab, what kind of bird are you eating? If someone cooks you squab, what kind of bird are you eating?

Again, some quick answers in the room. I don't want Kevin to see my tablet. No, listen. I was making a joke. I don't want to say what my problem is because it'll be a hint. But you and me might be having a real hard time. This is a dictionary definition of the word. So whatever your argument's going to be, you have to take it up with the dictionary.

I have a feeling I know what Steve's problem is going to be. And I can't wait to hear it. My problem is going to be with other people's shit. If someone cooks you squab, what kind of bird are you eating? Does everybody have an answer? It's going to be with other people's stuff. Waiting on Corrine. You know what happens in trivia? Winners laugh

and tell jokes and losers say next question. I think we just had a next question in the room one question ago. Corrine, how we doing? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying Eurasian rock dove. Andrew saying pigeon.

Kevin saying pigeon. Corrine saying quail. Sean saying pigeon dove. Andrew saying pigeon. Kevin saying pigeon. There's too many kinds of pigeons. Brody saying pigeon. Corinne saying quail. Sean saying pigeon. And Byron saying pigeon. What did you say to me beforehand? Don't overthink it. That was your advice to me. The correct answer is pigeon. They're the same bird. Which is? They're the same bird. Eurasian rock dove. We'll give it to you.

But you can't give it to them. Yes, they get that. There's too many kinds of pigeons. The dictionary says it's an immature pigeon. Do you know that you can hunt them with your hands or rocks in almost every state in the union? Because they're a nuisance species, because their guano degrades marble on statues. One of the few birds whose poop is so toxic. And so if you can, you can use butterfly nets, you can use rock stones, whatever. Can't shoot them, but in every municipality, even like right in downtown, just have at it.

Yeah, but the way to do it then is go outside the city into a silage field or cornfield, set some decoys and have a ball of barns. All you guys that wrote pigeons, what do you mean? What kind of pigeons did you mean? Old barns. Street pigeon. Old barns. Street pigeons. That's not what it said.

Just move it along, Spencer, dear God. Now, my father-in-law grew up in rural South Dakota. He said that when he was a kid, people would stop by the farm and ask if they could check their silos and barns for squab. But that practice largely died out in the early 80s, and my father-in-law hasn't got a squab hunting request in nearly 40 years. Have him call me. I will go anywhere. It's so delicious. Didn't you

used to grab them out from underneath bridges, Steve? Yeah, and then we caught them. Sorry, I haven't bite to eat. We had a big pole with a pizza box on the end of it, and another pole with a landing net on the end of it, and they like to live behind air conditioning units outside of it and another pole of the landing net on the end of it. And they like to live behind air conditioning

units outside of restaurants and shit. So you just block one side of the AC unit with the cardboard box, block the other side of the AC unit with the net, get the grownups, then we get the babies. And I would take the grownups and raise those and harvest their babies. Nice.

Very smart. So you were eating the squab. Pigeon farmer. And the adults. Question three. So you were eating the squab. Pigeon farmer. And the adults. Question three. I was using the adults to propagate. There you go. Question three.

The topic is conservation. I was big into it, man. This is our listener question of the week, which was won by Brandon Welty for sending this great question. Brandon is going to get a blaze orange meat eater vest that was signed by Steve. Just right now. Fresh signed. If you want a chance to win the listener question of the week,

send your questions to trivia at themeateater.com. This state is the only place in the world where the range of American alligators and American crocodiles overlap. What is it? Again, this state is the only place in the world where the range of American alligators and American crocodiles overlap. What is it? Oof. Boston.

Does everybody have an answer? Did you get them all right so far, Brody? I did indeed. There's only been two. I know. It's going to be neck and neck, though, dude. Yep. I mean, it could be neck and neck though dude. I mean it could be. This is every time. You haven't been here for it but this is

every single trivia. We had to separate them. Brody used to sit here but now we make him sit at the end of the table. Like the first question. We give each other the stare down. You gotta choose between two likely. I've got a pretty good cell phone video of those two giving each other the stink eye.

Oh, alligators and crocodiles? Yeah. Does everybody have an answer? Yep. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying Florida. Andrew saying Florida. Kevin saying Florida. Corinne saying Louisiana. Sean saying

Texas. And Byron saying Louisiana. The correct answer is Florida. I have it on pretty good authority that someone just found a Burmese python in South Louisiana. Will that be the first one there? Just a matter of time, right? I was trying to think. Sports teams. There's no crocodile sports team, is there?

The Crocs? No. No, not in Florida. There's not a sports team, is there? The Crocs? No. No, not in Florida. There's not a lot of those. Probably a single-A baseball team or something somewhere. Yeah, someone's got to be the Croc. But I think the whole Mario Batali thing sort of crushed that. Yeah.

Yeah. I can't say anything about it. I'm from Georgia, so our feelings on Florida are that it should just break off and float into the ocean. So I'm not really allowed to weigh in with an opinion on it. Now, although they look similar and share a range in South Florida, gators and crocs can't mate. But American crocs and Cuban crocs can hybridize, which has biologists concerned.

They fear that because their habitat is shrinking, it may lead to American-Cuban hybrids that cause true Cuban crocodiles to vanish altogether. Hmm. Man, they're only like 90 miles apart. How different can they be? Cuban hybrids that caused true Cuban crocodiles to vanish altogether. Man, they're only like 90 miles apart. How different can they be? The Cubans and the Americans? 90 miles.

I don't know. 90 miles worth of different. Question four. The topic is whitetails. Brody might want to read a book about bio-island geography. Sounds to me. I'd do that. I'd be sure to do that.

Question four of the topic is whitetails. Coyotes kill the most whitetail fawns across the United States. What predator is second? Coyotes kill the most whitetail fawns across the United States. What predator is second? Can you throw an adjective or two in there for me? What are you looking for? Is this going to be one of the... Oh, my God. Again, conflicted.

Two answers. Coyotes kill the most whitetail fawns across the United States. What predator is second? It's a tough one. I know because you know what? Just got to go with one. But I have a, I'll talk about it later. I might have the same question.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. You know what we're talking about. Yes. Does everybody have an answer? Yes.

Out of much preferred, answer. Yes. I would have much preferred you, well. Yeah. Corinne? Corinne, I don't know if you know this, but we're on a tight schedule. We got a guest who has a flight to catch. It's not a crocodile. No, no, and she'll sit there for three hours and have an empty board. It's not a crocodile, Corinne.

Grabbing my phone for Steve's objection here. What are you doing with your phone? I'm going to get a photo of you yelling at Spencer about a bad question. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying black bear. Andrew saying fox. Kevin saying fox. Brody saying black bear.

Corinne saying black bear. Sean saying dogs. And Byron crossed out two answers. And he says black bears is the answer. Whoa, whoa, whoa. He's got it crossed out. He put an arrow on it then. That's not bullshit. I don't know when you put that on there. I crossed this one out and then wrote

that one and then I crossed that one out and pointed an arrow to the first one. I think next time we should just rewrite it. The correct answer is black bears. Well, here's my deal. I got it right, so I don't really care. Were you thinking like humans were in there?

No, domestic dogs. Yeah. This is according to a Penn State University study who analyzed data from 29 other studies that were done across the country. They looked at the cause of death for nearly 1,000 fawns and found that about 73% were coyotes and 14% were black bears. Wow, distant second. Very, very distant. Yeah.

Hmm. That's a good question. Fascinating. Became a good question a few minutes before it wasn't. Question five. No, no, no. I would have preferred this.

Regionality, and then I would have preferred that you as a host excluded the wild dog. Yeah, thank you. Because I don't know that that's well captured. Yeah, like natural, yeah. The regionality was the United States because that's where the study took place. They took them across the country.

Question five, the topic is fishing. Notice I'm not complaining. I am complaining. I'm telling you what I would have complained about. This next great question comes to us via Chrissy McCoon. If you have a question you think is right for Meat Eater Trivia, you can send it to trivia at themeateater.com. Also known as ear stones, these hard structures located behind the brain allow biologists to age bony fish. Done.

Me too. And I think the fellas that are done might be going for five for five. Here's the question again. Also known as ear stones, these hard structures located behind the brain allow biologists to age bony fish. And I think if Brody and Steve get this right, they're pitching a perfect game. We will get a scoreboard update officially from Phil after this. I feel like me and Brody should find a way to team up, man, instead of being against each other.

Team up. Yeah, this is way more fun. Yeah, we could do a partner's tournament or something. Tournament of champions. So like a tag team situation? Tag team. That would be a great game, man. Does everybody have an answer?

Go ahead and reveal the answers. We have Steve saying otolith. Andrew saying antlers. Kevin saying ear stones. Brody saying otolith. Corinne without an answer. Sean without an answer. Byron saying ear stones.

The correct answer is otolith. It's also ear stones, just for the record. Otherwise known as antlers. That's right. Otoliths aid fish in balance and hearing. To age a fish using an otolith, you count the number of rings just like you would with a tree, but some fish like sharks, rays, and lampreys don't have them. Ain't kosher either.

Phil, hit us with a scoreboard update. We are halfway through the game of trivia. We are. Really quick before, I actually have a correction, a matterboard update. We are halfway through the game of trivia. We are. Really quick before, I actually have a correction, a matter of housekeeping. Oh, no. I was DM'd by Anthony Jensen on Instagram. Apparently, I've been reading the standings incorrectly when people are tied. I say, like, you know, tied for first, Stephen Brody tied for second, Cal.

Oh, no. That'd be tied for third, yeah. Yeah. That's essentially what he says i don't understand i'll just read what he said i'm sorry to be this ocd but when breaking down a competition's current ranking you wouldn't say tied for third if there are people tied for second if there's a two-way tie for first the next ranking is third or tied for third so like tied for is that true yes yes and he says again sorry to be anal uh anthony thank you for your apology

because you completely wasted my time. I will not be changing the way I do this, but I did learn something today. Is that? Wow. That's like next level. So that, you knew the other name of ear stones, but you didn't know that you count one, two, then

three. No, I had no idea. Yeah, because I think like they give out medals in the Olympics and if like top two tie two gold, and then they give out a bronze. Right. Yeah. For whoever came in behind those two people. If you look at a golf board, golf stand. In the Olympics, there could be two golds, no silver, and one bronze.

I think that might be how they do it. See, that is how they do that. Golf standings is the easiest one to understand. I don't like it. Yeah, golf standings is the easiest. Well, it's disc golf. Stick to your guns, Phil. Do it. It doesn't work the same. You've got to shoot from the outside. This is my easiest one to understand. I don't like it. Golf standings is the easiest. Well, disc golf. Stick to your guns, Phil. Do it.

Does it work the same? Yeah, shoot from the hill. This is my coos, dear. I'm dying on this hill. With one point, we have Corinne. Coming up next is Sean with two points, and then tied for second place. We have Kevin, Byron, and Andrew, all with three points. And then in first, perfect game, five points apiece, Brody and Steve.

Tension in the room. Oh, my God. What's y'all's team name going to be? Are you going with Stody or are you going with Breve? It's going to be B.S., man. Breve. I like Breve. Yeah.

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onxmaps.com slash meet. Welcome to the OnX club, y'all. Question six. The topic is woodsmanship. Name one of the five states with the most confirmed cases of Lyme disease in 2019. Name one of the five states with the most confirmed cases of Lyme disease in 2019. The quickest answer in the room was Andrew. You know this?

Oh, Stone Cold. Okay. Again, looking for one of the five states with the most confirmed cases of Lyme disease in 2019. This is a stat from the CDC. Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying New York. Andrew saying Minnesota.

Kevin saying Colorado. Brody saying Pennsylvania. Corinne saying New York. Sean saying Minnesota. Kevin saying Colorado. Brody saying Pennsylvania. Corinne saying New York. Sean saying Connecticut. And Byron saying Maine. Can we play a game where I guess who all has it right? Who do you think got it wrong? How about that?

They all hold up their things. I already erased it. All right, we're going to reveal the answers. I think Byron might be wrong. Byron says Maine. The top five are Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Maine, and Wisconsin. What? What?

In most years, Pennsylvania destroys the rest of the country when it comes to Lyme disease. In 2019, they had 7,000 cases of Lyme disease. That's followed by New York with 3,000, New Jersey with 2,500, Maine with 1,500, and Wisconsin with 1,000 cases of Lyme disease. That's followed by New York with 3,000, New Jersey with 2,500, Maine with 1,500, and Wisconsin with 1,000. Just missing out on the top five are New Hampshire, Minnesota, Maryland, Connecticut, and Virginia. That's actually way

lower than I would think. Good job. Every year I had, they had 30,000 confirmed. Yeah, I think people just don't get tested anymore. Nationwide, they had 30,000 confirmed. They don't test it. This is why I thought Minnesota was top rated because if anybody has a tick and you even think that the head

or any other part of it is in there, they don't test you at all. You immediately go on it because in Minnesota, 97% of the people who come in for it develop Lyme disease. And the ticks are all carrying it. We're on to question seven. The topic is cooking. This red

spice, which comes from a purple flower native to the Mediterranean, is considered to be the most expensive spice in the world. What is it? This red spice, which comes from a purple flower native to the Mediterranean,

is considered to be the most expensive spice in the world. God, dude's pitching softballs. What is it? What did your wife score on this round? I think she got four. You have hard questions elsewhere. That's right. I think from now on, I'm writing the food questions for you.

Send them to you every week. Please, do it. That'd be a great favor to him, man. That's food questions for you. Send them to you every week. Please. Do it. That'd be a great favor to him, man. That's right. And you win that free orange vest. One more time. This red spice, which comes from a purple flower native to the Mediterranean, is considered to be the most expensive spice in the world.

Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying saffron. What does that say? Saffron. Saffron? I just spelled it P-H instead of F-F. Andrew saying saffron. Kevin saying saffron. Brody saying saffron. Corinne saying

saffron. Sean without an answer. And Byron saying saffron. That is the correct answer. Saffron. Authentic saffron can cost about $500 per ounce. It's so expensive because it's an incredibly labor-intensive crop with a small output and short harvest window. Its taste is described as sweet, floral, and pungent. If you want to learn how to cook with it, then check out Andrew's recipe for risotto Milanese on andrewzimmern.com.

And don't think that you're just going to put a whole bunch in there because it must be good because holy shit what a way to ruin something man yes when it says like a so there is there is it's very tempting to use more you know because how could this possibly work there there is some debate about whether or not it's uh first came from came from the Mediterranean or central Asia, uh, which has got some, some serious legs to it. Now, what else do you cook? Uh, what else do you use? Saffron is like the main thing.

Well, yeah, but you know, beer, a lot of Indian food uses saffron, uh, a lot of Afghani Iranian central Asian foods use it. Yeah. It's, it, it, it was used as a form of money for a long time on ancient spice roots. It was used for makeup. It was used for perfumes. Would you support this statement that in America, most of it is bought by people fixing to make paella? Yes.

I would also support the statement that most of what's sold here in the United States does not even measure up to real saffron. And in fact, even the most expensive stuff that you can buy here still has a little bit of orange flange at the end of the thread, which in Afghanistan and Iran, where the best saffron in the world, my opinion, grows, It is dark red from end to end. And when I travel to countries that trade with those nations, that is the first thing that I smuggle home is real saffron, which blows all the other stuff away. Really? It blows it away.

Well, I like about it. You know when the places have the spice bottle arrays and grocery stores where it's like a predetermined size? All that stuff, don't even bother. You've got to buy the spice shot. And then they have the bottle, but then in the bottle is a bag. And in the bag is like two or three pieces. But in order to, for display purposes, they still put it.

So you think you're getting a big ass week of Calusti. You should buy it online from Calusti. You should buy it online from Calusti or another, you know, you know, Penzi's another really reputable, uh, company. There is an amazing group called Rumi, uh, out of Afghanistan and it's founded by, uh, Iraqi and Afghani war vets. Um, and they started a spice company to try to give, uh, farmers in that country an option for another plant to grow other than poppies. And it's a Rumi, R-U-M-I, I think it's rumispice.com, is an organization that I just think is fantastic. Yeah, I feel like if you go into the grocery store

and you see saffron in like a McCormick bottle or something. Oh yeah, don't buy it. It'll say saffron in big letters, but then really small ones above it will say like Spanish or something like that. Have you tried the Rumi products? Their whole line of products is great. I actually, very luckily, where we live in Maine, I have a neighbor who's from Afghanistan.

She gets it. Like she gives me her family stuff. They send it over to her. It's mind boggling, right? And I pay her, get ready, $30 for three ounces of saffron. Yes. And it is so unreal. It's unreal.

Yeah. That kind of saffron has as much in common with supermarket saffron as my standing in your garage makes me your car. Full stop. That's amazing. Great analogy. We're on to question eight. We will get a scoreboard update after this. The topic is biology.

And this x-ray question comes to us from Ryan Baldridge. If you have a question you think is right for MeatEater Trivia, you can send it to trivia at themeateater.com. There is only one bird in the world that can fly forwards, backwards, upside down, and hover. What is it? Only one bird in the world that can fly forwards, backwards, upside down,

and hover. What is it? Larry Bird. That's good. Some quick answers in the room. A slow answer from Steve. That's because you tripped him up with something. He's still arguing with the premise of the question. Well, he's like, what about Bird?

Well, yeah. Exactly. I've played this just enough times. Do you want the Linnaean name? Like times Are you looking for a You want the Linnaean name? Are we looking for a species or a broad category? You write down whatever you think is right Oh I thought you were going with extant or

One from Are you going to put down a dinosaur? Exactly Does everybody have an answer? Again looking for the only bird That can fly forwards, backwards, upside down and hover Go ahead and reveal your answers We have Steve saying the What bird that can fly forwards, backwards, upside down, and hover. Go ahead and reveal your answers.

We have Steve saying the, what does that say? Harrier. Harrier. Because hummingbirds, there's dozens of hummingbirds. Andrew saying hummingbird. Kevin saying hummingbird. Brody saying hummingbird. Corinne saying seagull.

Sean saying hummingbird. And Byron saying hummingbird. The correct answer is hummingbird. That's bullshit, dude. There's too many kinds of hummingbirds. So I didn't even know the harrier was a type of hummingbird. And Byron's saying hummingbird. The correct answer is hummingbird. That's bullshit, dude. There's too many kinds of hummingbirds. So I didn't even know the Harrier was a type of hummingbird. That's why they named the jet. It's a northern Harrier.

I was talking about the northern Harrier. I didn't know that. I was going to put the hummingbird, but that's not a kind. We are going to give you it. Why? A Harrier isn't a hummingbird. I didn't say it's a hummingbird. What?

I thought you were saying that is a type of hummingbird. You were just going to fold and give it to him? I thought he was saying that was a type of hummingbird. Listen, man, you can't just say hummingbird because there's too many kinds of hummingbirds, and I don't know that all of them have that capability. It's like your issue with the squad. Whether you know whether they do or don't. Son of a bitch. Hummingbirds break all the rules of flight.

Not only can they fly in any direction, but they also can hit speeds of 75 miles per hour and come to a complete stop in the space no longer than your index finger. Now Brody's winning. Phil, hit us with a scoreboard update. Oh great, now Brody's winning. It's not over yet. That's right, now Brody is winning.

We have Byron in third place with six points. Stephen Rinella in second place with seven points and pitching. And perfect game so far with eight points is Brody Anderson. Wow. How many questions do we have yet? Two questions left. Oh, okay.

Then there's far from over. Well, it's technically two from over, but... Question nine. The topic is hunting. North America's longest mule deer migration is a 150-mile journey that starts in Wyoming and ends in what state? North America's longest mule deer migration is a 150-mile journey that starts in Wyoming and ends in what state? Steve was writing while I was about a third of the way through the question. Again, this starts in Wyoming and ends in what state is a 150-mile mule deer migration?

I thought you were looking for the name of the migration. That's why I started writing. Some quick answers in the room. This really shows how much I need to relearn about my adjacent states. Where you're like, is that state connected to that state? Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying Wyoming.

Andrew saying Colorado. Kevin saying Utah, Brody saying Wyoming, Corinne saying Idaho, Sean saying Colorado, and Byron saying Colorado. The correct answer is Wyoming. That's a tricky freaking question. These are the questions they love. If you'd have got it wrong, we'd be neck and neck. No, but this is where your

advice go with your, my first instinct was Wyoming. I was like, no, that's too obvious. I don't even think Colorado is adjacent. No, but this is where your advice go with your, my first instinct was Wyoming. I was like, no, that's too obvious. I don't even think Colorado is adjacent. No, it is. Yeah. Is it right below? Basically. This is known as the Red Desert to Hoback migration, which was first discovered in 2014.

There are about 1,000 muleys in the herd. These deer spend four months each year migrating, crossing many rivers and highways, as well as over 100 fences. I've been trying to draw a tag on that migration path for a long time. Oh. What's interesting is they pass mule deer that don't migrate. Yeah, and when they, I think these thousand join like 4,000 when they get

there. Really strange. I just think the phrasing of that question. No, it was good. It was well phrased. You like that one? Yeah, that was the perfect phrasing of a question. Why not just ask what. It was well phrased. You like that one? Yeah, that was a perfect phrasing of a question. Why not just ask what state has the longest? Too easy. Too easy then, yeah. Because everybody knows that.

I don't think everybody does. Phil, we are on to the final question. Give us a scoreboard update. Steve has eight points. Brody has nine points. So we need Brody to choke on this last question. Oh, man. The perfect game.

We could see it again. And he would get a $1,000 donation instead of $500. The topic is conservation. And this last great question comes to us from Daniel Clark. If you have a question you think is right for MeatEater Trivia, you can send it to trivia at themeateater.com. What country was given its first elk and moose by Teddy Roosevelt. What country was given its first elk and moose by Teddy Roosevelt? We do not have an answer in the room yet.

Wow. Wow. Brody needs this one to go 10 for 10. What country was given its first elk and moose by Teddy Roosevelt? I can hear a pin drop in here right now. Yeah. They are thinking really hard. That is a humdinger.

Now, the topic here is conservation, which I think for both of you is your second best category. What were you worried was going to happen there? Nothing, nothing. I also see now we have multiple whiteboards with suck it Brody written on the back. If anyone wants to add that to theirs. Again, the final question. Feeling the love today. What country was given its first elk and moose by Teddy Roosevelt?

Does everybody have an answer? No. Even if you're not playing for first place, you should still write down an answer because we keep a very tight baseball box score that this is surely going to affect that. Again, to go to overtime, we need Brody to get this wrong

and Steve to get this right. We all ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying England. Andrew saying Britain. Kevin saying UK. Brody saying England. Corinne saying UK.

Sean saying Japan. And Byron saying England. The correct answer is New Zealand. Making Brody our winner. Brody got it wrong. Brody got it wrong and still won. Brody got it wrong. He avoids the perfect game, but

he beat Steve. Man, why didn't I think of that? And Bayern was, or excuse me, they got him from somewhere, man. Brody was kind of disappointed with himself there. He didn't look like a guy who just won media tribunes. Did anyone secretly root for Steve? Because here's the fascinating question because here's the fascinating question here's the fascinating question remember when roosevelt was president so

you have to think yourself what countries were even countries sure back then and i wasn't even sure that i knew australia was a country but as i'm going around the globe i'm thinking who do we trade with who has the was it part of his big stick tour? Roosevelt gave them 18 elk in 1909 and 10 moose in 1910. The descendants of those elk are still found there today, but it's believed the moose have disappeared. Sightings have been rare since the last one was killed in 1956, but scientists did find moose hair samples there in 2002.

So it's like New Zealand's version of Bigfoot. We should give him moose again. See, that's what threw me off. She said no more? I've hunted in New Zealand a lot, and I was like, I could... What's that? I knew the elk were American, but I'm like, there's no moose in New Zealand. I didn't even know.

I don't literally mean it's there. I'm sure they have Bigfoot there. I would not have guessed New Zealand was in the country then. Brody, man. What happens next is we're getting nine right and winning media trivia. If I'd gotten that right. I would not have guessed New Zealand was in the country then. Brody, man. What happens next is we're getting nine right and winning meat eater trivia. If I'd gotten that right. You get to choose where the $500

conservation organization donation goes. So what's it going to be? The meat eater land access. The meat eater land access initiative. I like it. When are we going to hear about that again, you think, Steve? We got something happening in 2022,

something brewing? Got to talk to Callahan, I don't know. Okay. Ryan Callahan question I don't know. Okay. Ryan Callahan question. Brody, well done. That was an impressive game. Andrew, thank you for joining us. Hope you had fun. It was a blast. Great. I was hoping to cross the Mendoza line, but my...

I'm stuck at 50%. You were on your own tally in the end. I wanted to know. 50% is dang good for a guest. That's great. I'll tell you that. All right. Join us next time for more meat. We had a guest sit in that chair and win one time.

Only once, though. A guy named Dustin Huff. Only once. Wow. Sat in the guest chair. If you look at our scoreboard. Yeah. Trivia guest.

One victory. Fair and square, he won, too. I didn't know that Chester had won one. He won our Meat Eater Live Show. Oh, that's on there? Join us next time for more Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. Hey folks, exciting news for those who live or hunt in Canada. You might not be able to join our raffles and sweepstakes and all that

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