The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 359: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia XXI

Episode Date: August 17, 2022

Spencer Neuharth hosts MeatEater Trivia with Janis Putelis, Mark Kenyon, Brody Henderson, Max Barta, Hanzi Deschermeier, Ryan Callaghan, Phil Taylor, and Corinne Schneider. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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without cell phone service as a special offer. You can get a free three months to try out OnX if you visit onxmaps.com slash meet. It's the Meat Eater Podcast. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Spencer Newarth, and today we're joined by Giannis, Cal, Mark, Brody, Max, Corinne, and Hansi. You'll notice one name I didn't mention there, and that's Steve Brunella.

This is a Steve-less episode. How do we feel about that? I want to clap, but I like my job. The fact that we have to call it out, this is the last time I'm going to talk about it, is just the most bizarre, weird thing to me. It's going to be half as long as a normal episode. I'm going to call it out every episode, just so Giannis can give us a vibes check in the room. Giannis, how do you feel without having Steve here?

I feel the same as I would if I had him here. His energy will be missed in one form or another whether that's positive or negative that's right now Hansi and Max you've been on the podcast before but if folks don't recognize your names

tell them what you do here at MeatEaterMax I'm a camera guy and editor I work on Duck Lore go on miscellaneous shoots do a lot of cooking stuff. Went on a shoot with Giannis last spring. But yeah, if I'm not out in the field, sitting in front of the computer,

making that story come to life. How was Giannis to work with? Eh, you know. Yeah. He's okay. How was Max to work with? He's a dick. This is the same Max that was a,

that was party to Kimmy and Sean's harrowing hunting story yes I was a part of that was that in New Mexico? New Mexico yeah we're also joined by Hansi another waterfowl fellow Hansi tell folks what you do here I'm a video editor so I do like cows we can

review and sourced and some of those long form pieces that you see on YouTube. So I am not in the field, unlike Max. Both fellas do great work. Now, if you're not familiar, Max and Hansi, this is a 10-round quiz show with questions from our four verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking. There is a prize.

Me, Dieter, will donate $500 to the conservation organization of the winner's choosing. Now, last time we played, we revealed each player's average score per game. If you don't remember, the leaders in the clubhouse are Brody, Steve, and Giannis, who each average roughly six correct answers per game. But the stat of the week for this episode is winning scores. The average winning score for trivia is 7.02 correct answers per game. The best winning score we've ever had was Brody, who once got 10 correct answers, and the worst winning score we've ever had was Steve, who once got 4 correct answers.

The most common winning score is 8, which happens about 40% of the time. So if you want to win Meteor Trivia, plan on getting between 7 and 8 correct answers. It's a between 7 and 8? Yeah. It's a between 7 and 8? Yeah, there's like a 7.5 option available. You're going to have the right answer on one

and then you're going to have one that's just deemed that it's okay to be acceptable. That's right. So 7.02 correct answers per game.

You think you got that in you, Yanni? Yes. Hansi, are you nervous? Because I am. Let's do that. We couldn't tell. Let's go.

Now the last time we played, we had a question about how many species of wild cats are native to North America. I said the correct answer was six, which I got from National Geographic, but about a dozen listeners pointed out that there is a little-known seventh species.

This is the margay cat, which is similar in appearance to the ocelot. They're commonly found in South America and Central America and were even documented one time in Texas in 1852. So the correct answer is seven, not six, which we will get fixed for the board game. And I went back and listened to the show, and that answer would not have impacted the outcome of the game. So seven Wildcats, North America. This is usually the part in the episode where Steve says that you suck at your job, right, Spencer?

That's right. Man, I don't like getting it wrong like that, but if you can't trust National Geographic, who can you trust? I don't know. Man. Margay. Margay Cat. M-A-R-G-U-A-Y, something like that. M-A-R-G-U-A-Y, something like that.

M-A-R-G-A-Y. G-A-Y. Also, the last time we played without Steve and Brody, I was explaining to these guys the vacuum theory that a lot of whitetail hunters talk about. Now, Mark, fill in these folks on the vacuum theory real quick. So the basic idea here is that whitetail bucks in particular typically have a home range where they have some type of territorial status. The average home range size is somewhere

around 350 acres, give or take. So the idea here is that in some places there'll be like a big bully buck who will kind of lay out his territory and scare off others and keep others out of that general zone. Does that sound familiar? You guys at all? Hasn't happened to me yet. Okay. I know where we're getting at here. I see where this is going, Spencer.

Yeah, keep going, keep going. I like where your head's at. So the idea here is though, once that big bucks killed or disappears for whatever reason, it creates a vacuum. There's now this open turf. There's this open great habitat and other deer will come in and claim that territory. So I imagine if a vacuum is opened up elsewhere, somebody will claim that turf too, even outside of the wildlife world.

Is that where you're going, Spencer? Yeah, so in this scenario with meat-eater trivia, Steve and Brody are the old dominant bucks that died, and Giannis and Mark and Cal are the new bucks that rolled in to take their stuff. And I was explaining this theory. I was explaining this theory to Brody before our live show in May and Brody's response was this.

Well, what happens when that old buck comes back and kicks everyone's ass? So, we're going to get a look at the vacuum buck theory. The white tail hunter's self-fulfilling prophecy Is all it is It's like So here's another

So here's another reason to sit in a tree all day That's right So we're going to get a look at the vacuum buck theory today Will the old gray buck in Brody Take back his stuff Or will one of the new bucks like Mark Hold his ground I'm coming for you Brody Yeah I'm a mule deer hunter so it doesn't really apply Take back your stuff, or will one of the new bucks like Mark hold his ground?

I'm coming for you, Brody. Yeah, I'm a mule deer hunter, so it doesn't really apply to me. This is just really doing a masterful job of adding depth to trivia. Just trying to create tension. We could have one simple thing here at Meteor, but no. Trying to ruin friendships, create tension. Create tension, yeah. And with that, we're on to trivia. Play the drop, Phil.

Look, I need to know what I stand to win. Everything. How's that? You stand to win everything. Game on, suckers! Question one, the topic is cooking, and as always, this will be multiple choice. What type of fish is served in an Arnold Bennett omelet? Is it halibut, tuna, haddock, or snapper? Again, what type of fish is served in an Arnold Bennett omelet?

Is it halibut, tuna, haddock, or snapper? Giannis, you ever put fish in your omelettes? You know, I don't make omelettes much, but I've thrown some smoked trout in some scrambled eggs a few times. We can call that the Giannis Patelis omelette someday. Omelettes seem to be dry. I'm not into dry eggs. I like a wet, creamy egg.

You're such a butter fam. Like, how do you produce a dry omelet? You know, I was criticized. Eggs just get overcooked. At breakfast one time, because you know what the opposite of a dry omelet is, right? A wet one. A wet omelet. And so, like, in kitchen terms,

you're like, yeah, I want that wet. People find that very unappealing, I've learned. Yeah, see, I would prefer the wet omelet. Absolutely. Again, the Arnold Bennett omelet, it has halibut, tuna, haddock, or snapper. One of those four fish. I have no idea.

Does anybody know this? Is everybody just guessing? No, I got it. Full-on guess. You got it? 25% chance. Really? Oh, no, I'm no idea. Does anybody know this? Is everybody just guessing? No, I got it. Full on guess. You got it? 25% chance. Oh, no. I'm going off. Okay, you ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers.

We have Mark saying snapper. Max saying halibut. Brody saying halibut. Corinne saying haddock. Cal saying snapper. Hansi saying haddock. And Giannis saying snapper. The correct answer is haddock.

Ooh. And now you're going to explain who this uh arnold bennett guy is chefs at the savoy grill in england created this dish for novelist arnold bennett in the 1920s the omelet is made with fluffy eggs smoked haddock hollandaise sauce and grated cheese i was envisioning some like you know quote unquote golf athlete in Florida like I don't know exactly so we had a few folks get it right we're on the question two. The topic is fishing. Who hosted Animal Planet's TV show, River Monsters? Oh.

Who hosted Animal Planet's TV show, River Monsters? He had a luscious head of hair, I remember that. Yeah, just sort of like you, Cal. Yeah, long and flowing. Yeah, sort of like you. I can see his face. I'm just for Jim Shockey. I can see his face, Could be confused for Jim Shockey. I can see his face, but...

Again, who hosted Animal Planet's TV show, River Monsters? Again, does anybody in the room know this? I think we should steer clear of TV shows. You want first and last name? You know, last name's good enough. First name's good enough. I was going to guess first name. Oh, it just came to me, I think.

Oh, my God. Oh. I'm really hoping. Humunculus got you. My kids, I think, got me. I'm just going to put an animal planet name. You know what? I watched one episode of that, and they're like, so this is what it has to be.

But instead, we're going to catch this because we can't figure out how to catch that. And I was like, well, this show's bullshit. Listen, their show, it's the greatest fishing show ever made. Here's what I love about it. It takes it and breaks it down for laymen. So when they're, Jeremy. Oh, Spencer. I got it.

I got it. And hey, look. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Mark saying Jeremy. Max saying Adam. Brody saying Jeremy. Wade. Corinne. Jeremy Wade. Saying, I forget have Mark saying Jeremy. Max saying Adam. Brody saying Jeremy. Wade. Corinne saying, I forget.

Cal saying Jeremy. Wade. Hansi saying Stanley Tucci. And Giannis saying Jim Schill. I wasn't going to put Steve Irwin. The correct answer is Jeremy Wade. That's great. I love it.

Are we giving it to the people? Cal, did you have that before I said? He did not. Absolutely not. Cal doesn't get it. Are we giving it to the people? Cal, did you have that before I said? He did not. Absolutely not. He did not have that. Cal doesn't get it. Brody did, though. The other folks do.

I said his name. Well, yeah, exactly. And we weren't done. I don't know, man. This might be on you. I think you have to give him the answer. I wouldn't be surprised. I'll just say it that way.

I wouldn't be surprised. Whatever. I don't feel good about that. It's up to you, Spencer. Brody did have it before you said it. I don't know surprised I'll just say it that way I wouldn't be surprised I don't feel good about that Brody did have it before you said it I had this Jeremy doesn't count So just Brody on that one You got the second part without any tip

That's true Here's what's great about Jeremy He was talking about Now I want to fish this spot Because the current actually goes backwards. And it's like, yeah, it's just like an eddy, but it's like very common for us. But when he explains it to someone who doesn't know fishing, it's like, whoa, the current goes backwards? I've found that most people on a river do not, they have a very hard time with upstream and downstream.

Like where the water comes from versus where it's going like yeah i don't get it now i once asked steve if we could have jeremy wade on the podcast and his answer was no that person doesn't interest me then i asked why and steve responded by pointing at a lady walking across the street and said i don't know that lady doesn't interest me either should we have her on the show and And I've never brought it up since. Oh my goodness. That's good. So, do I get that point?

You do not. Why is that? Because I gave the answer. No, you gave a part of a word of the answer. He did get the full name. No, I just want to know, because that is essentially just like anybody else being like, oh, and saying something, and then there's this big argument, and Steve loses his shit, and blah, blah, blah. Phil, what do you think?

I think you should give Cal the answer unless he beats me by one question. My vote is to give it to Brody and Cal because... We would give it to Brody and Cal. Yeah. Well, if you give it to Cal, you've got to give it to Mark then. No, because Mark just put Jeremy, which Spencer said. But I had it before Spencer said it. He did.

Did have it before Spencer said it. He did. Did have it before Spencer said it. Question three. The topic is haunting. This next great question is from Steven Rinella. If you have a question you think is right for MeatEater Trivia, you can send it to trivia at themeateater.com. This state has a sheep named after it that's created by crossing a mouflon ewe and ramble a ram.

What is it? Again, this state has a sheep named after it that's created by crossing a mouflon U and ramble-lay-ram. What is it? Looking for the state. This is one of the United States you're looking for. Yes. This state has a sheep named after it that's created by crossing a mouflon U in Rambo-les-Rams. What is it?

A pretty stumped room, but Giannis had a quick answer. How are you feeling, Gianni? Giannis did have a quick answer. Oh, I'm feeling all right about it. It's still a guess, though. One more time. This state has a sheaf named after it

that's created by crossing a mouflon U in Rambo-les-Rams. Does everybody have an answer? No. One more time This state has a sheep named after it That's created by crossing a Mouflon U In Ramble-Lay-Ram Does everybody have an answer? No I want more time It worked for you last time Are you going to say the answer this time? Well you just challenge Spencer as to why it's not good And then he starts talking

That's right There you go I can't believe that happened One in fifty Slipping Getting old That's right. There you go. I can't believe that happened. One in 50. Slipping. Getting old. Does everybody have an answer?

Brody? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Mark saying Nevada. Max saying Alaska. Brody saying Hawaii. Corinne saying Nebraska. Cal without an answer couldn't come up with a state. Hansi saying Washington. And Giannis saying Texas. I'm saying Wyoming.

Somebody in the room did get it right. The correct answer is Texas. It is the Texas doll sheep. Now these animals were bred just for hunting purposes, but it's now popular to raise them for their meat and pasture clearing abilities. You don't need

a tag to kill one in Texas, but outfitters do charge anywhere from $1,000 to $5,000 to hunt them for their meat and pasture-clearing abilities. You don't need a tag to kill one in Texas, but outfitters do charge anywhere from $1,000 to $5,000 to hunt them. Texas, the state home to the barnyard slam. Did you know that one, Yanni? I couldn't have told you that it was the Texas doll sheep, but I had heard Steve sometimes gets on people if he sees a picture of them with one of these sheep, and so I had remembered that it happens in Texas. Plus, I mean, where else? What other state do they do

a bunch of crossing of animals? Hawaii was a good guess, though. Yeah, for sure. Question four. The topic is trapping. What is the largest land-dwelling member of the weasel family? Again, what is the largest land-dwelling member of the weasel family? Again, what is the largest land-dwelling member of the weasel family?

Oh. A quick answer from Mark and Max. What constitutes land-dwelling? A land-dwelling member of the weasel family. Like more time? This is the definition you'll find in any dictionary, any

wildlife source. This is their terminology. The largest land dwelling member of the weasel family. Are bears weasels? I see an argument coming. You're a weasel. Does everybody have an answer?

Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Mark saying Wolverine, Max saying Marmot, Brody saying Wolverine, Corinne saying Badger, Cal saying Wolverine, Hansi saying Pine Martin, and Giannis saying Fisher.

The correct answer is Wolverine. I was just trying to think of weasels. Come on, Janus. Does that mean that there's an otter that's bigger than a wolverine? A marmot is not a weasel. No. Oh, you were just trying to think of any weasel. Yeah.

I got it, got it, got it. But you didn't write down weasel. No, I didn't. Okay. Big ol' weasel. didn't write down weasel. No, I didn't. Okay. Big old weasel. A big old weasel. Although wolverines grow up to 55 pounds, they aren't even the biggest member of the weasel family.

That distinction goes to the sea otter, which can grow up to 90 pounds. The smallest weasel is the least weasel, which weighs less than an ounce. So Brody knew it all there, even the factoid. I'm an expert. Question five, and we'll get a scoreboard update after this from Phil. The topic is fishing. This next great question comes to us from Lee Nelson. If you have a question you think is right for Meat Eater Trivia, you can send it to trivia at themeateater.com.

There are five types of salmon found in the Great Lakes. Name two of them. There are five types of salmon found in the Great Lakes. I want you to name two of them. Seems like a confident room. Except for Cal. Hansi probably knows this because he grew up right on the Great Lakes, maybe. Yeah, you're putting a lot of confidence in me there. We got a lot of Great Lakes folks in this room. Growing up in Michigan in the late 80s, early 90s,

I knew there was salmon, but it seemed like every time we went to the fish hatchery, all they talked about were those lampreys. That's all I remember from a kid. There'd just be lampreys stuck to every fish that was swimming around the Great Lakes. Yeah, they like to eat those salmon. Does everybody have an answer? Again, looking for two of the salmon found in the Great Lakes. Yeah, Cal, make sure you write down two words.

I put down two words. Are there two points for two answers? No. This is an all or nothing one point question. What happens if you put down all five? Then you get it wrong. No extra credit. Corrine, you got an answer?

I got two wrong answers. Go ahead and reveal it. We have Mark saying Chinook and King. Max saying King and Chinook. Brody saying Coho and Chinook. Corrine saying King and Chinook. Cal saying Chinook and Kokanee. Hansi saying Pink and Atlantic.

Giannis saying King. And what's the other one you wrote? Coho. The correct answers are Chinook, Coho, Pink, Atlantic, and Kokanee. A lot of Kings in this room. Didn't get it right.

Now, say those again. We have a Chinook, a Coho, Pink, Atlantic, and Kokanee. Is King a name for one of those? King and Chinook are the same. King and Chinook are the same. Silver and Coho are the same. The room did very well.

I'm going to have to redo that thing because I didn't mark anyone who wrote King. Let's go. With halfway through the game of trivia, hit us with a scoreboard update, Phil. Sure thing. In last place, but first place in spirit we have max i thought we were playing golf zero points and then coming up tied for third place we have corinne and mark with one point uh tied for second place are yannis and hansi with two and then tied for first place bro Brody Henderson and Ryan Callahan.

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Y'all run to question six. The topic is conservation. The Algonquin wolf got its new name in 2016. What was it known as before that? The Algonquin wolf got its new name in 2016. What was it known as before that? So it's currently known as the Algonquin wolf.

I'm looking for its old name. How are we feeling, Cal? I'm split between two answers, but one of them's right. Really? Yeah. Okay. Write down your other one and cross it out so we can see. I don't feel like it's overly tricky.

Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Mark saying the Timber Wolf, Max saying the Mexican Wolf, Brody saying the Red Wolf, Corin mark saying the timber wolf max saying the mexican wolf brody saying the red wolf corinne saying the blue wolf saying the red wolf hansi saying the adirondack wolf and janice saying the red wolf nobody got it right the correct answer which cal crossed out is eastern wolf it used to be thought that the Algonquin wolf was a subspecies of gray wolf, but

recent genetic testing has shown that they're actually more closely related to the red wolf. The Algonquin wolf got its name changed six years ago and has been reclassified on the endangered species list as a threatened instead of species of special concern.

So nobody got it right. We're on to question seven. This is our listener question of the week, which was won by Warren White Knight for sending in this great question. Warren is going to get an orange meat eater hunting vest that was signed by everyone in the room. If you want a chance to win the listener question of the week and send your question to trivia at themeate eater.com.

There are five States that have less than 10% forest cover. Name one of them. There are five States that have less than 10% forest cover. Name one of them. So we're looking for the five least forested states in America, but you just have to name one. I'm pretty confident in this one. Some quick answers in the room. Giannis just starting to write. Cal just starting to write. Does everybody have an answer?

Yes. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Mark saying Iowa, Max saying Oklahoma, Brody saying Kansas, Corinne saying Nevada, Cal saying Nebraska, Hansi saying Rhode Island,

and Giannis saying Kansas. The correct answers are North Dakota, Nebraska, South Dakota, Kansas, and Iowa. You did pretty well. Do you need to know who got it right? I think I got it right. The room did fairly well.

Fairly well. And Corinne crossed out the right answer to write Nevada. North Dakota is the least forested state in America with just 2% of its ground covered in trees. That's followed by Nebraska at 3%, South Dakota at 4%, Kansas at 5%, and Iowa at 8%. 2%?

2%. You know what they say about North Dakota? Their state tree is the power line. You want to hear another joke about North Dakota? Yes, I do. I love them. Is it an Ole and Lena joke? No. For every tree, there's a good looking girl behind it Yes, I do. I love them. Is it an Ole and Lena joke? No. That's more Minnesota. For every tree, there's a good-looking girl behind it in North Dakota.

Oh, no. Can you do a follow-up, a little info for the next show? Sorry, that means there's not very many trees, so there's not very many good-looking girls. Thank you for that, Kel. But I'd like to know if that's natural causes. Like, is that natural, or is that because of... Like genetics?

...habitat loss due to, say, farming in those states? We can look into that. I would guess that's natural. I would imagine even if North Dakota put its mind to it, it's not going to get above 10% forest cover. Yeah, they're all prairie states, right? So they're all grasslands. Prairie farm. Now, interesting

point would be that if you were to I think this is right. If you were to judge what state has the most of its landscape converted from what it naturally was, Iowa is the number one. Something like 97% of the state has been converted from its natural habitat. That's a great fact.

That's why the whitetails like it there so much. Love corn and beans. Question eight. We'll get a scoreboard update after this. The topic is hunting. What was former Vice President Dick Cheney hunting when he shot Harry Whittington? Ooh. What was former Vice President Dick Cheney hunting?

Democrats. Democrats. When he shot Harry Whittington. Bernie, that was good. Now, Phil, if you were playing this round, how do you think you'd be doing? Oh, I knew the answer to this one, but I mean, like, I was lost for most of those.

I don't think I would have gotten anything before the break. That was as good as me. How did your wife do? She got, I think, three on this one. So the Shelby Index would say the winner of this round, she gets six. Which we're on pace for them. Does everybody have an answer? Again, what was Dick Cheney hunting when he shot Harry Whittington? Go ahead and reveal your answers.

We have Mark saying grouse, Max saying pheasants, Brody saying quail, Crin saying pheasants, Cal saying quail, Hansi saying doves, and Giannis saying quail. The correct answer is quail.

Oh my goodness. It happened in 2006 in Texas. Cheney shot Whittington with a 28 gauge as Whittington retrieved a downed bird behind him. Whittington was hit in the face, neck, and chest, and later suffered a heart attack because of a BB lodged in his chest. But the most amazing part of this story is that after all that, Whittington actually apologized to Cheney, saying he was deeply sorry for everything the vice president had to deal with,

and that he hoped he'll continue to go to Texas to seek saying he was deeply sorry for everything the vice president had to deal with and that he hoped he'll continue to go to Texas to seek relaxation he deserves. He's quite the sportsman with the old 28 gauge, huh? That is fun to hear about. That feels like some European fox hunting stuff. Being in Texas hunting

quail. I was on a deep debate between the 28 and 410 in the heart of quail country I was on a, like a deep debate between the 28 and 410 with, in like the heart of quail country. Which, which is bigger? The 28, 410 is supposed to have more skill. So the 410 is smaller than the 28 gauge. Less efficient, you'd say. Sure.

Um, but there's, so when you're at your, the pinnacle of your quail hunting career, you're hunting with a 410. And then I've been told that that gun has to be retired due to the crippling rate once your responses start to slow a little bit. And then you progress on to 28 and 20. But there's a lot of folks who the hubris gets them and they're packing around a gun that they haven't earned.

So Chaney should have went down to a 20 gauge after this. I don't know. The man could have been a lot quicker than he looked. Phil, hit us with a scoreboard update. We have two questions left. That's right.

The only players left in the game now are Giannis, who has four points, and Cal and Brody, who have five apiece. Two questions left. I can't get skunked. I'm still going to answer these two, right? Oh, yeah, I'm an Eastern Wolf. Everyone keep playing.

Hold on, you're still at zero, Max? Yeah. Question nine. The topic is conservation. This is a visual question. If you want to play along and see what the room is saying, then go to Instagram and check out at Spence and New Earth. I'll make it my most recent post.

Back in February, I declared the Missouri Department of Conservation as the greatest game agency logo in America. Then, coincidentally, one month later, a state changed their logo to take them from having one of the worst logos in America to having one of the best. I'm now going to show you this state's old logo and new logo, and you need to tell me what state it belongs to. Again, you're looking at the old logo and new logo of this state who changed it one month after I declared Missouri as having the best one in the country.

Are you implying that you might have had a, you know, you might have inspired them to change their logo? You know, I felt that for a minute, but then I read into it a little more and realized they started the process the year before. Yeah, states. This is a DNR logo. Yes. Not a Fish and Game logo, is what Giannis was saying. It's a Fish and Game, DNR, Wildlife Department, Not a fishing game logo. Soon enough, we'll have a bunch of those patches.

It's a fishing game, DNR, wildlife department, whatever you want it to be. It is a state game agency logo. Marcus, what are you doing on your phone? I took a picture of it so I could keep studying it. So you can Google everybody. Image search. No. But everybody else is looking at the picture.

I'm just looking at the picture. While everybody else is looking over there. Where do you think that is? Where's the holdup? Brody. Brody is studying. That's what got me stuck. Mark, share that with me.

Brody's trying to look for, like, Illuminati symbols. Well, I... What state is this? I, of course, scrubbed the state of its name on there, so you're not going to find the state name if you're looking for it. Just send it to me, honey. Brody is thinking real hard over there. I'm trying to figure out what kind of bird that is.

Ooh, there's a hint. It has a bird. There's a fish, too. Doesn't have to be a game bird. No, it's definitely not a game bird. It's one of the states that has white tails in it. That's right. That's a big one.

Did anybody know this when they saw it? No. This could be a chance for that three-and-a-half-year-old to come walking in this room right now. Push some of the old bucks out. I think all the three-and-a-half-year-olds are already out of the game, according to the scoreboard. I'm just a button buck here.

Oh, that is true. Yeah. Just a button buck. Where do I of the game, according to the scoreboard. I'm just a button buck here. Oh, that is true. Yeah. Just a button buck. Where do I fall in? You're one of the old, well, you're one of the new old bucks that rolled in. New old. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. The young old bucks. Brody's an old, old buck. You're a new old buck. Does everybody have an answer? Count. No. Come on.

Did you draw it over there? Is that what you're trying to do? Yeah, I'm doing all 50 states first. I'm doing a symbol for what each state means to me. Now, again, if you want to play along, go to Instagram. Check out at Spencer Newarth. You will see these logos there. I feel like this entire question is just a gimmick to up your

Instagram followers. Absolutely. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Mark saying South Dakota, Max saying Ohio, Brody saying Minnesota, Corinne saying New Mexico, Cal saying Mississippi, Hansi saying Indiana, and Giannis saying Oklahoma. I like Hansi's answer. We do

have a correct answer. A lot of different answers. It is Oklahoma. Giannis got it. Now, Giannis, what was it about it that made you think Oklahoma? The fish. Bucks, prairies. No, I couldn't guess the fish. I know, I thought walleye too.

That's why I put Minnesota. The rebrand cost the agency $95,000 to have the logo made and $100,000 to replace the old logo on sides and uniforms. The new logo is in the shape of an arrowhead to represent the state's Native American heritage and features

a whitetail buck, a white bass which is the state fish, and a scissor-tailed flycatcher, the state bird. That's a cool bird. They should have just hired our art director, Hunter Spencer. They should have. Or have a contest for high schoolers. They could achieve that same thing.

Can you imagine taking $190,000 and putting it towards Habitat? Yeah. You might rather have a sweet sign. Are you taking that extra $5,000 for yourself? Is that what? I think it was $195,000. That's how government works, huh? taking that extra $5,000 for yourself? Is that what? I think it was $195,000. That's how government works, huh? A $5,000 decision that Cal made.

It was funny you guys were calling out the bird because there was actually some controversy there. People didn't like that they put a non-game bird on the logo because most folks associate the department with just managing fish and game. But it was very intentional saying that we don't just manage hunters and anglers. So that's why the scissor-tailed flycatcher made it on there. It is now, I would say, a phenomenal logo. Yep, I agree. That's a good angle. We're on to question 10. Hit us with a scoreboard update, Phil. It's all tied up with Giannis, Brody, and Cal having five points apiece. So it's the old, old versus the old, new, new, old. Question 10.

The topic is fishing. This next great question is from Jared Bailey. If you have a question you think is right for Meat Eater Trivia, you can send it to trivia at themeateater.com. This crustacean is named after America's longest natural sand spit, which is located on the northern edge of Washington's Olympic Peninsula. This crustacean is named after America's longest natural sand spit, which is located on the northern edge of Washington's Olympic Peninsula.

So we're looking for the name of the crustacean. What does this have to do with fishing? Yeah. You can fish for crabs. You can dive for crabs. Yeah. Could be a lobster, a crawdad, a crab. Well, I thought a lobster was a langoustine.

Yeah, but you'd still like go lobster fishing. But it's still a crustacean. Oh, yeah, you do still go lobster fishing. But it's still a crustacean. Oh yeah, you do still go lobster fishing. Still go crayfish fishing. Still go shrimp fishing. I don't even have a guess. No.

You have nothing. Max, how do you not have a guess? We just named a bunch of stuff. Yeah, I know. This crustacean is named after America's longest natural sand spit, which is located

on the northern edge of Washington's Olympic Peninsula. Giannis, how you feeling about this? You had the quickest answer, I think. I don't even know if what I wrote down is a crustacean. Brody, how you feeling? Horrible. I think this is a horrible question.

That's not very nice to Jared Bailey. Someone who took time out of their day to write this question to TriviaTheMeatEater.com. I think it's a good question. I apologize to that person. It's a very good question. Cal, how are you feeling? I picked an answer. I'm going with it.

Okay. Does everybody have an answer? Yes. Corinne go ahead and reveal your answers we have Mark saying the sand crab Max saying the sandy cheeks Brody saying the Dungeness crab

Corinne saying without an answer saying the Dungeness crabby which crossed out Cal saying the Dungeness crab Hansi saying the Olympic sand Crab, and Janice saying the Razor Clam. The correct answer is Dungeness Crab. Now I love this

question. Which means we're going to overtime between Cal and Brody. Now a sand spit is a beach landform off the mainland that usually develops where a coast changes directions. The Dungeness Spit in Washington is about five miles long and grows at about 15 feet per year.

It's a popular destination for hikers and campers in the Pacific Northwest. So what is the scoreboard update, Phil? We are going to overtime. It is 6-6 with Brody and Cal going to the tiebreaker. Tiebreaker. You ain't first, you're last. That doesn't make any sense at all. You're first, you're last.

You can be second. You can be third, fourth. Hell, you can even be fifth. Not Brody and I's first tiebreaker. That's not. That's not. So you're third. You went to tiebreaker in the first ever game we played.

Now the tiebreaker. So no math on we played. Math. Now the tiebreaker. So no math on this one. Math got me on the first one. The tiebreaker is a numerical question, so whoever is closest to the correct answer will be declared the winner. The last known passenger pigeon died at the Cincinnati Zoo in what year? The last known passenger pigeon died at the Cincinnati Zoo in what year? The last known passenger pigeon died at the Cincinnati Zoo in what year?

It should be a gimme for a couple of old conservationists like these two. So are you giving them whoever's closest? Whoever's closest will be declared the winner. Again, the topic is conservation. The last known passenger pigeon died at the Cincinnati Zoo in what year? That bird had a name, didn't it?

Yeah, we already had that as one of the... Cal, how are you feeling? I think we're both going to be in the ballpark. It's just going to be who's going to be closest. You both got an answer? I got an answer. Brody? Hold on. Brody's crossing years off right now.

It's like 2022 right now. Brody? You got an answer? Yes. We have Cal saying 1898 and Brody saying 1905. One of you is nine years off,

and the winner is Brody. That's what I thought. The correct answer was 1914. I'm going to stuck around a little longer. Well done. Congratulations. Thank you. It's so funny.

It's been a while. I was going to put down 1905 too. That was my second one. I would not have felt good about if Cal won because I gave the Jeremy Wade answer away. So I'm pleased. I'm an indifferent party here, but I was rooting for Brody. You know, conservation wins either way. Yeah.

Yeah. That's so nice. Speaking of Brody, you now get to pick where the $500 donation goes. So what's it going to be? You know how some people like to say hunters only put money into conservation so they have more animals to kill? Who says that? Well, it's like a thing you hear now and then.

Well, it's kind of like why the Oklahoma State Fish and Game Agency decided to put that bird on their logo, right? I really like to hunt mule deer. So, Mule Deer Foundation. That was a good plot twist. So who's going, so Mule Deer Foundation. That was a good plot twist. So who's going to the Mule Deer Foundation?

We have not donated them yet. Nope. That's why I picked them. Well done, Brody. Thank you. That's it for this game of trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. Hey folks, exciting news for those who live or hunt in Canada. You might not be able to join our raffles and sweepstakes and all that because of raffle and sweepstakes law, but hear this. OnX Hunt is now in Canada.

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