The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 363: Game On Suckers! MeatEater Trivia XXIII

Episode Date: August 31, 2022

Spencer Neuharth hosts MeatEater Trivia from the First Lite flagship store in Hailey, ID with Steven Rinella, Bridget Noonan, Ford Van Fossen, Kevin Harlander, Clay Newcomb, Ryan Callaghan, Sean Weaver, Phil Taylor, and Corinne Schneider.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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without cell phone service as a special offer. You can get a free three months to try out OnX if you visit onxmaps.com slash meat. It's a meat-eater podcast. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Spencer Newarth, and today, not only are we joined by special guests, but we're in a special place. This is the first ever game of Meat Eater Trivia that we've recorded somewhere other than the Meat Eater Podcast Studio.

Right now, we're sitting in the incredible First Light flagship store in Haley, Idaho, and we're joined by First Light employees Bridget Noonan, Kevin Harlander, and Ford Van Fossen. We also have some meaty regulars with us like Steve, Cal, Clay, Sean, and Corinne. Now, Steve, you've had a chance to size up these First Light folks after a regular podcast episode here. Who do you think is a threat? I heard that it's expected that Ford will do well. Oh.

I heard a rumor. Can you share your sources? Who just told me that? Me. Kevin. Oh. Kevin told me that he, I think he didn't even say that he thinks he'll do well. I think that he was saying that other people were saying that he'd do well.

Oh, Bridget. Bridget's the one who thinks he's going to do well. Ford just knows. Also, you're the source. Yeah, he just knows everything about everything. It's kind of annoying, actually. Oh, man. Yeah, no pressure, no pressure. Annoying people do pretty good on trivia here.

Bridget, Kevin, how you guys feel about trivia? Medium strong. Okay. Not great. All right. Well, good thing we got Ford here then. That's my team. Dude, I want to be i want to

be ford so bad man i gotta ask steve did you hear clay's remark there he said i heard annoying people do well on trivia yeah i just make sure you heard that i mean i've done pretty well on trivia okay clay clay is so nice a human that i actually need to follow up to make sure that was a jab and that i'm not just oh that wasn't just like a misunderstanding that i just heard no clay is so perfect that he's the only person allowed to play remotely like you can trust like i wouldn't let myself play remotely no way on earth because i'd be, I'd probably just be like, let me just check and see what they say online about this subject. What the Wikipedia says.

I'm not going to seal the answer. I'm just going to have a quick look. Just jogged my memory. Now, if you're not familiar, this is a 10-round quiz show with questions from Meat Eaters for Verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking. And there is a prize. Meat Eater will donate $500 to

the conservation organization of the winner's choosing. Unless you get a perfect game. Then we do $1,000, which has happened one time. Not to me. And for our stat of the week this week, we're looking at overtime. On average, MeatEater trivia ends in a tie

and goes to overtime 36% of the time. Steve is the best overtime performer, winning three out of the four times he's gone to overtime. And Brody is the worst overtime performer, only winning one of the seven times he's made it to the 11th question. He's only run one out of seven? One of seven. Wow. It's amazing how good he is.

I take back everything I just said about Brody, man. It's amazing how good he is at questions one through ten, but that 11th one, can't pull it off. Yeah, just in case this doesn't go to overtime, I want to explain to folks real quick. Overtime, it winds up being a numerical question. And it's like you get presented with a thing and you have to guess a number.

Not guess. You make an have to guess a number. Not guess. You make an educated guess at a number. Like one of them was the average cost, the national average of a resident fishing license. I won that one. There's one of the three that you've won. Now, before we play trivia, we have some housekeeping to get to. On a previous game of trivia, we talked about how Teddy Roosevelt

sent New Zealand their first moose and elk. Well, listener Ryan Davidson wrote in to say that he got that question right because in the video game, The Hunter, Call of the Wild, there's a storyline where our friend, Remy Warren, has to hunt down New Zealand's last moose that was sent

by Teddy Roosevelt. So, Ryan wanted to let Steve know that video games really can teach you something. Why does he want to kill the last moose Roosevelt sent? I don't know. Don't poke holes in it. He was too lonely. Dude, my kid, like,

oh my god, drives me. Despite that contract, we have that stupid video game thing that drives me nuts. He the other day hucked a wood chip at his sister and hit her in the back of the head and lost it for two weeks. That's not even on the contract. Is that the first penalty you've had to enforce? They got in a fight about gardening chores, and apparently he hucked a wood chip at her. And is that the first penalty you've had to enforce? No, he normally doesn't have it.

What's the longest? So what's the longest suspension you've had to enforce? No, he normally doesn't have it. What's the longest? So what's the longest suspension you've had to dish out? He's probably got it where he's probably gone a week in possession of the controllers without getting the controllers locked into the gun safe. He's probably pulled a week. But no, he normally is losing it. Keep us updated on that. I like it.

Also on a previous game, we talked about the movie The Last of the Mohicans and their prolific use of flintlocks. I also brought up how Natty Bumpo is in the movie, to which Cal said he's not, but it turns out he is. That's because in the Leather Stocking Tales book series, which the movie is based on. It is Natty. He is Natty Bumpo.

Bumpo goes by many aliases like deer slayer leather stocking pathfinder straight tongue the pigeon and hawkeye so daniel day lewis's character hawkeye in the last of the mohicans is actually portraying natty bumpo even though they don't call him that dude i feel like when i'm not there i feel like i'm getting robbed man but you know Mark Twain hated James Fenimore Cooper? No. And wrote a hilarious takedown of Natty Bumpo and James Fenimore Cooper. Twain hated him. So can you explain?

So the leather stocking series. I don't mean to bully you. I don't mean to bully you in aggression. Was compiled into Last of the Mohicans? One of the books in the leather stocking tales. Into Last of the Mohicans? One of the books in the Leather Stocking Tales was The Last of the Mohicans. And in that book, Natty Bumpo was known as Hawkeye, but he went by many other aliases as well. Well, Last of the Mohicans is not a thin book.

You're not going to read that over the weekend. So Leather Stocking Tales must be a heck of a series. Must be. You going to pick it up? You gotta learn more about Natty Bumpo. I don't know. I'll tell you that the book Last of the Mohicans will make

the movie seem like a G-rated movie. So you read the book, and you saw the movie, and you didn't know it was about Natty Bumpo? No. Because they call him Hawkeye. Learn something. I thought that was the guy from MASH. Well, he is the guy. I believe the man from MASH was named after.

Oh, after Natty Bumpo. See, my old man would refer to, he would talk about Natty Bumpo. He'd talk if you were good at hunting, he'd say you were a Natty Bumpo. Oh, interesting. I'll tell you right now, that mash theme song started playing it just sucked me right back into grandpa's living room spencer you know what man what's up on the on the on the the show the podcast that precedes this on mondays i started to tell a story but i didn't finish the story go ahead the platform is yours i just i just real quick my dad would say he would talk about uh optimists and

pessimists okay and he said if you put you or he would he would do either optimists and pessimists or rich kids and poor kids depending on what point he was trying to make he talked about if you take a poor kid or you take a rich kid and put him in a room full of horse shit he's just gonna sit there and cry put a pork in a room full of horse shit and he's gonna start digging around in there because he says with all this horse shit there's cry. Put a pork in the room full of horse shit, and he's going to start digging around in there because he says, with all this horse shit, there's got to be a pony in here somewhere. That was all. Go on with the show.

And finally, on a previous game, we talked about the acronym FIFO, which stands for First In, First Out, and is applied to perishable goods. We had some listeners from states like Michigan, Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia, and Pennsylvania write in to say that FIFO also stands for F-ing Idiot from Ohio. It's generally used to insult out-of-state hunters and anglers when they appear to be

incompetent, and it's most often used at boat ramps to describe people who can't back up trailers. And with that, we're on to media to trivia play the drop fill. Look, I need to know what I stand to win. Everything. How's that? You stand to win everything. Game on, suckers!

Question one. This will be multiple choice, and the topic is cooking. According to the FDA, what temperature should your freezer be? Is it 0 degrees, 10 degrees, 20 degrees, or 30 degrees? Again, according to the FDA, what temperature should your freezer be? Zero, 10, 20, or 30? This is in Fahrenheit.

Oh, you know you're a statistician, people? Yeah, what's up? How long you give to, how long people have to answer questions. I feel like it varies. We're going to have to put them on the payroll if we start asking them to track that. What were the numbers? Zero degrees, 10 degrees, 20 degrees, or 30 degrees.

And this is according to the FDA on what temperature your freezer should be. What did you want them to track? I missed that. Why the amount of time you have. I told him a long time ago. He doesn't listen. Is to get an hourglass little thing, a minute counter. Like from a board game?

Yeah, and he won't do it, and he just lets it be up to some kind of whim. I'm worried that would suppress the banter that makes this more than just like straight facts. Does everybody have an answer? Oh, yeah. Yes. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Corinne saying 20. Kevin saying 20.

Bridget saying 30, Clay saying 20, Steve saying 0, Cal saying 30, Sean saying 0, and Ford saying 10. Did you say fridge or freezer? Freezer. Oh, okay. The correct answer. Why would you set it at 30? You're flirting with disaster, dude.

I thought I was originally going with 20, and I'm like, well, 20 doesn't make any sense either. Frozen is frozen. What's the answer? The correct answer is zero degrees. Steve is the only one to get it. Oh, Steve and Sean.

So your strategy was all or nothing. No, I just know what my freezer's set at. Oh, really? He reads the FDA guidelines daily. They say that a zero-degree freezer will keep an adequate temperature for about 48 hours in case the power ever goes out. And when it comes to refrigerators, they say the temperature should never exceed 40 degrees. God, that was my gut, and I overthought it. I was like, oh, it's a trick question. That's when your homunculus knows something, and your brain overrides it, man.

We're on to question two. The topic is woodsmanship. This is our listener question of the week, which was won by Cy Courser for sending this great question. Cy is going to get a $100 First Light gift card. If you want a chance to win the listener question of the week, then send your question to trivia

at themeateater.com. Cy can also come into the store here and use his gift card. Absolutely. Oh, that'd be cute. He could save it for a year and get some waiters. I don't think he could save it. Talked about the store enough. The store really whoops ass. I thought I was going to be walking into like a shopping mall kiosk

sort of situation. This is amazing. You thought it was a pop-up store? This is great. Yeah, I want to hang out in here. Like a jeweler in an airport kind of store? Maybe. I'm glad you set the bar low. I appreciate that.

Tons of faith in our marketing. Let me tell you, it ain't that, though. Are you disappointed that you can't find Ray-Bans in here? No, but we sell everything except Ray-Bans. Question two. Again, woodsmanship. This is our listener questions week. There are two states

in the lower 48 that don't have venomous snakes. Name one of them. Again, there are two states in the lower 48 that don't have venomous snakes. I want you to name one of those states.

Nobody with a quick answer. Everyone's thinking real hard. Trying to figure out where those two Name one of those states. Nobody with a quick answer. No. Everyone's thinking real hard. Dude. Trying to figure out where those two states are. Again, the lower 48. Do we have a regular time period to answer here?

What's the... Nah, just read along. Everyone's done writing. We'll have to trim it out while I think. This is a great question. That's why it's our listener question of the week, and they're going to have a $100 gift card to show for it. it out while I think. This is a great question. That's why it's our listener question of the week and they're going to have a $100 gift card to show for it.

Son of a mother scratcher. I got it. Steve said he has it. Does everyone else have an answer? I have an answer. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Corinne saying, what's the answer here?

Pick one. It's Connecticut. Sorry. Connecticut. Corinne says Connecticut. I thought it was, I don't know. I thought he said two. I must be having a stroke or something.

Kevin says Maine. Bridget says Illinois. Clay says Maine. Steve says Maine. Cal says Maine. Sean says Vermont. And Ford says Rhode Island. The two states are Maine and Rhode Island.

Wow. I had Rhode Island and I erased it. Ford, did you actually know that? I was thinking, where are their timber rattlers? That was the tricky part, man. Those mother lickers. People don't know.

You know what? I never... I'm having a hard time. I'm so much exciting words. I made my sense. They're in. They're in Michigan. Everyone I know runs into the things grouse hunt or something. I personally, in the twenty years I live there, never laid eyes on one. If you, if it wasn't people telling me about him, I would have said there, never laid eyes on one. If it wasn't for people telling me about them, I would have said there's no way they're here. I'm frankly surprised they're not in Maine

because if they're in Vermont and New Hampshire, I mean, come on, stones throw. Yeah, and I got friends like, oh, I shot one with a.22, killed one with a rock, whatever. I'm like, I have never run into one. It's great you brought up the timber rattler because although the timber rattlesnake used to be found in both states,

it's now considered extirpated in both areas. The last rattlesnake in Maine was spotted in 1901, and the last one in Rhode Island was in the 1970s. Alaska and Hawaii are the only other two states without venomous snakes. Funny you mentioned that, man, because remember we were saying like a rattlesnake in hawaii dude would love that place it would do well yeah it'd be part of the cow can't get you cow can't get used to the fact that they're not there he's always talking about like it seems like they should be like in the lava rocks and grass and he says i can't get over the thing that i feel like i need to tiptoe around like like bending over to like

pick up uh firewood we're like you know roasting a sheep on this beautiful hawaiian spot and like the back of my neck is just in knots because i'm like oh careful now there's gonna be like watch yourself there's gonna be a big old rattler in there question three the topic is conservation what does a federal duck stamp cost in 2022 oh oh interesting again what does a federal duck stamp cost in 2022 sean you know this one yes yeah he knows looking for a dollar amount what if you give a what if you tell what it was in the... No. It's cost right now.

2019. Does it change quite a bit? No. We're not talking any further about it. Here I am doing my own worst. The thing I hate most. Can we get a hint? It's just a round dollar number.

Are there cents? The hint is you should go buy we get a hint? Like, it's just a round dollar number. Are there cents? The hint is you should go buy one after this. You should buy two. And check your receipt. That's right. What does a federal duck stamp cost in 2022? This is another one that feels like it should be so simple.

But is it? Now, Corinne, I see you writing a lot of answers over here again. You know, I just throw a lot out there. Does everybody have an answer? Corinne puts several answers down or no answers down. Rarely is it just a answer.

Texas with a dollar sign. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Corinne saying $22.50. Kevin saying $32. Corinne saying $22.50. Kevin saying $32.00. Bridget saying $22.00. Clay saying $50.00. Steve saying $20.00. Cal saying $25.00.

Sean saying $25.00. And Ford saying $35.00. We do have a correct answer. It's $25.00. Oh! Congratulations. Federal duck stamps. It's $25. Oh! Congratulations. Dang. Federal duck stamps used to cost $15, but their price was raised to $25 in 2014.

The bill that made the change was signed by President Obama and raised an additional $16 million for wildlife habitat. You know, in your little tidbit there i would have appreciated had you alluded to the controversy that it raised by from 15 to 25 people pointed out that it's a blank percent increase but then adjusted for inflation it was still lower it was adjusted for inflation. It was cheaper than when it was first 15. Sure.

Yeah, if you adjusted it for inflation since it was founded, it should be like a $60, I think, is what it was. It's a significant amount of money, it should be. That's what Clay was going for with 50. I think they ripped me off. I'm pretty sure I paid 50. Important to point out, though, even

obviously it happened under the Obama administration, but after years of lobbying occurred by lots of sportsman's groups. Ducks Unlimited was huge on lobbying for the federal stamp increase. Big win for everyone.

Question four of the topic is biology. This next great question comes to us via Grant Robison. If you have a question you think is right for MeatEater Trivia, you can send it to trivia at themeateater.com. What is the rule that describes how animals living in cold climates tend to be larger than the same species

living in warm climates? I knew the answer to that before it came out of your mouth. Again, the topic is biology. What is the rule that describes how animals living in cold climates tend to be larger than the same species living in warm climates?

Some very quick answers in the room. As Clay noted, before I even finished the question... I didn't even listen to the last part of the question. I was glad you said it again because it was the question I thought it was. Dude. I didn't even listen to the last part of the question. I was glad you said it again, because it was the question I thought it was. Dude, I can't wait to get into the part where I start... Not arguing with you.

Okay. Years ago... Hey, I've got an exception to that law. I know the answer, but there's like... You'll see. There's a problem. I want to talk about an exception. Okay.

Are you talking about Pygmy Mammoth? No. Well, that'd be an exception too. Oh. Does everybody have an answer? You guys get carried away. You get a little ahead of yourselves. Does it start with what letters does it start with again? Appreciate the effort.

Everybody good? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Corinne saying, Elephant Titus, ha ha ha. Kevin saying, Ford. Bridget saying, what Clay says. Clay says Bergman's. Steve says Bergman's.

Cal says Bergman's. Sean, without an answer, Ford saying Bergman's. You guys got it. It is Bergman's rule. I believe it's been downgraded to Bergman's, you guys got it, it is Bergman's rule. Well, no, I believe it's been downgraded to Bergman's principle because of all the exceptions. Yeah, this is named after German biologist Carl Bergman who described the pattern in 1947.

Some examples of animals that follow Bergman's rule include fox, copepods, crocodiles, penguins, and humans. Whitetails. Whitetail deer. So, okay. Whitetails are the great example because you look at the Keys deer versus the, you know, the Alberta giants. I think smallmouth bass are one that like generally follows it with some exceptions.

They're not a mammal though, so that's a big exception. Oh, gotcha. Well, I've heard someone talk about it with smallmouth small i've never heard a biologist say this yeah good job i've never heard a biologist say this but bears seem to go opposite of bergman's bergman's law because like the whole idea of a bigger body size is to retain heat so that means they have to withstand the winter but a bear goes into estivation it's not really hibernation and so they skip winter and so the biggest black bears in the world are in the south because they're eating more months that's right and so they they basically skip out on the cold

yeah and so they're they don't follow that rule if you think about a think about a grizzly like let's say a grizzly on the north slope of the Brooks Range. He's normally hibernating. Right. Most of them. Do you know what I mean? Right. All the time. He's like, what do you do?

Typically, I'm hibernating. Are there any grizzlies that don't hibernate? I'm assuming they all do on their range. There probably are. Well, in some areas, I know they sort of like flirt with their den. They'll do like what black bears in Maryland, right? A real bad cold snap, they'll hole up. But as soon as things get nice, they'll pop back out.

So even photographers in Yellowstone National Park are always catching grizzlies out dicking around in February, March. They come out to do stuff. You got to think the one that lived in New Mexico 150 years ago wouldn't have. Right. Well, let's not get into the details here but bears they den in in a lot of places based on food availability not on temperature

so you could have a bear in really warm places even go into and they don't hibernate because bears don't hibernate oh you know what we're talking about. Yeah, but so, yeah. We're on to question five. Is this a fact show, Steve? We will get a scoreboard update from Phil after this. The topic is public lands. Name one of Outside Magazine's 10 best mountain towns in America for 2022. That's obnoxious. It changes.

It's the usual suspects. Name one of Outside Magazine's 10 best mountain towns in America for 2022. Just looking for one of them. Hopefully not Haley. Don't name anything in Montana, please. Why is this on this trivia show? Because their rating,

one of the things that they look at, is like what you can do in that town. Public lands happens to weigh heavily on that factor. Oh. Still kind of stupid. On principle, I'm not. I'm sticking to other states. Again, name one of Outside Magazine's 10 best mountain towns in America for 2022.

Would this be based upon this? Based on whatever criteria you think Outside Magazine would be based on. It would be based on what they did last year and don't want to do it again. Right, what they didn't do last year. Sure. So you got to have some deep intel on this magazine. Spencer, can I clarify something? Yeah, what's up? Was the term they use mountain town

or was it like place to get outdoors? They call them mountain towns. The best mountain towns. I think the article is the 24 best mountain towns that they have. 24 of them. But I'm looking for the top 10. Could that town be in a valley?

Looking for the top 10. Not giving any more hints. Does everybody have an answer? A mountain town written down. This is probably your stupidest worst question. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have

Corinne. You ready, Sean? We have Corinne saying Jackson. Kevin saying Boise. Bridget saying Tahoe. Clay saying Bozeman. Steve saying Bozeman. Cal saying Steamboat. Sean saying Ketchum. Oh, that was bold, Ford. I like it. Well, they picked that one a lot.

The top 10 are Lake Placid, New York, Sedona, Arizona, Bozeman, Montana, Stowe, Vermont, Asheville, North Carolina, Bend, Oregon, Truckee, California, Telluride, Colorado, Jackson, Wyoming, and Park City, Utah. Asheville makes it because they're trying to spread the love out a little bit. You know what I mean? Well, and there's all that bluegrass. That was in Asheville a couple weeks ago.

I actually had a pretty good time in Asheville. Yeah, what's that hotel place up there? We got stopped by a bear jam up there when we were driving through. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like I raced there, but you noticed I got it correct, right? Outside Magazine declared Park City, Utah the best mountain town in America. They love that the ski town has 450 miles of trails on public land,

is near the Provo and Weber rivers for fly anglers, and produces some of the best whiskey in the country. Yeah, but let's not talk about Utah's stream access loss. How you can do a trivia show about someone else's subjective

marketing-based... It's insane. Here's why I can justify. We've done questions about like the Fishing Hall of Fame before, which is totally subjective. That's not decided on by like some spreadsheet. Key word there being fishing. I felt like this question.

They like the fishing and the public land accessibility. I felt like the question had to do with our knowledge of just like pop culture. You got bonus you got you know bonus points if you knew about outside magazine here's another thing is that i take a lot of pride in that a lot of feedback we get is people saying that this is the only podcast that their spouse or significant other will listen to with them because they feel like they can play along so i think it's crucial to like throw a bone to some folks who aren't necessarily hardcore hunters and anglers because we'll keep them around.

They feel like they can play with the show. Are we going to get a bunch of Taylor Swift questions in here? He serves many masters, Spencer. That's right. I think it's good for the show, and I take a lot of pride knowing that those folks want to play along. Before you got here, we were joking about maybe it'd be a Britney Spears-themed week, and it sounds like that's becoming

a reality someday Phil hit us with a scoreboard update we are halfway through the game of trivia let me know when the Britney Spears week is coming is then I'll play we have Bridget Noonan with zero points you were very close with

I didn't hear that Kevin and with zero points. Thank you. You were very close with Tom. I think we didn't hear that. Kevin and Corinne both have one point. Sean Weaver has two. And then duking it out for the top few spots, we have Ford, Clay, and Cal all with three points. And Steven Rinella is in first place with four points. Wow.

You just smiled. That's a lot. That's a freezer question. That's a slim lead. That's a slim lead. So how bad is the lead? How good or bad? You're up one. Oh, okay.

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Question six, the topic is cooking. This next great question comes to us via Clayton Hunt. If you have a question you think is right for Meat Eater Trivia, you can send it to trivia at themeateater.com. Derived from a Latin word that means horse's hind leg, this object is used for suspending slaughtered animals. Again, derived from the Latin word that means horse's hind leg, this object is used for suspending slaughtered animals. Spencer, this is an example of a good question. Meat hook. Look at the meat hooks on that filly.

Shout out to the spouses and significant others that listen with the folks that are generally in our audience. I like that question you had, man. The more I think about it, I hadn't thought about the way you were thinking about it.

The mountain towns one? Yeah, no, I like it now. Well, he got it right, so that helps. One more time here. Derived from the Latin word that means horse's hind leg, this object is used for suspending slaughtered animals. I did not see any answers that came upon us very quickly. Oh, dude, you hadn't even finished.

Oh, and you knew it? Oh, yeah. Okay. You knew it? Wow. First place dude, you hadn't even finished. Oh, and you knew it? Okay. First place Steve putting the pressure on everyone else. I mean, I don't even know what to guess. No, I got nothing. I don't know if it's right. Does everybody who is going to come up with an answer have an answer?

Clay, our equestrian fella, doesn't know it. You know, I'd like to point out that Clay is the only person I've ever met who plays with his board horizontal. Really? We got another one over here. Oh, you show me your damn answer. Does everybody have an answer? Kevin does. Go ahead and reveal your answers.

We have Corinne without an answer. Kevin saying gamble. Bridget saying larder. Spelling doesn't matter. Clay without an answer. Steve saying gamble. Cal saying gamble. Sean without an answer. Steve saying Gamble. Cal saying Gamble. Sean without an answer.

And Ford saying Gamble. The correct answer is Gamble. Are you accepting Gamble? That's a tough one. I don't know that I would have, but then four of you did it. I play dialect. I play dialect there. Because you have a normal spelling doesn't matter rule,

but it's a decidedly different word yeah i said i'd like to go gamble or if i said i need to go get a gambrel right two very different things you know i think the dialect is important here that he pointed out i can say context steven i can say with 100 certainty i've never written that word in my life i think we're gonna give it to you, since so many folks did the same thing. Never heard the R pronounced in it, honestly, in all the meat hook days. Now, it also shares a name with the style of roof that builders refer to as Dutch roofs. Most modern gambrels can support anywhere from 500 to 1,500 pounds,

which means the limiting factor is usually how much weight your ceiling joist can hold. Oh, now I'm definitely pronouncing that wrong. What's that? In my building days. It was a gambled roof. Yeah, I didn't know that that was the same word. Maybe folks just leave the R off there. Wow, that's amazing.

Kyle, you're also pronouncing the second word wrong there. What is the second word? R-O-O-F. He's 0 for 2 on that one. I'm going to go set in the crick wrong there. What was the second word? R-O-O-F. He's over two on that one. I'm going to go set in the crick after this. Round to question seven. The topic is woodsmanship. Who was the documentary filmmaker

that lived among brown bears in Alaska for 13 summers before getting eaten by them in 2003? Watch that two years ago. Who was the documentary filmmaker? I have heard this name way too many times. That lived among brown bears in Alaska for 13 summers. This is going to drive me nuts.

Before getting eaten by them in 2003. Steve had the quickest answer in the room. He might have the- It's questions like this that make you a good trivia player and I am not going to get it I know the name of the filmmaker who did the film oh god what's his name the guy has a nickname too

are we looking for a full name last name will do first name will do then last name only give me one minute give me a couple more minutes. Getting the documentary filmmaker that lived among brown bears in Alaska for 13 summers before getting eaten by them in 2003.

This is question seven. Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Corinne without an answer. Kevin without an answer. Bridget without an answer. Clay saying Chris. Steve saying Timothy Treadwell. Cal saying Tim Treadwell. Sean saying Treadwell.

And Ford saying Treadwell. You guys got it. It's Timothy Treadwell. Now there is a six minute audio clip that exists where you can hear Treadwell being eaten alive. Just before being mauled, his camcorder was turned on, but the lens cap wasn't taken off. His ex-girlfriend owns the camcorder with the audio, but has vowed to never release it to the public. She did allow the director, the 2005 documentary Grizzly Man,

to hear it though. While listening to it, the director takes off his headphones, and this is what he says to her. You must never listen to this. I think you should not keep it. You should destroy it. And the audio has never been heard by more people after that well that's horrifying i'd love to hear that six minute video like the lead-in i feel like someone heard some of it right it was leaked

because i know it's like there's someone screaming hit it with a pan hit it with a pan now there are or is that something different there's versions that are floating around YouTube that have been proven to be hoaxes. Oh. Because there have been a couple folks that have heard it, and they're like, no, all these details are wrong.

And one of the things that I think was really chilling that someone who has heard it pointed out is you don't hear the stereotypical bear noises while this is happening. The bear's not growling and huffing and just being super vocal the whole time. All you hear are the screams, and you hear the frying pan hitting the bear and things like that. It'suffing and like just being super vocal the whole time. All you hear like the screams and you hear the frying pan hitting the bear and things like that.

It's like me. It's like the silent killer. Yes. Something like that. What if this is just very presumptive and he was actually saying like, I never should have dated you. Why are we going out? You think that's what they're keeping? Like that's why Herzog said don't listen.

Mm-hmm. We're on to question eight. We will get a scoreboard update. Think about it't listen. Round to question eight. We will get a scoreboard update after this from Phil. What state had the most registered hunters in 2018? 2018? In 2018. Oh, 2018. That's the latest data that I could find.

What state had the most registered hunters in 2018? Define a registered hunter. A hunter who owns a hunting license. Oh, okay. 2018. Before the pandemic. Oh, I shouldn't. You're not allowed to talk, huh?

What if I told you the top three? I'm a contender for number one here. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We are looking for number one, the most registered hunters in 2018. When Treadwell was killed, people liked to talk about how stupid he was.

And, oh, he had it coming. But listen, man, that dude knew what he was doing, talked about what might happen, and could out-camp anyone in this room. I'm very surprised to hear that you're a Treadwell defender. Listen, man, to live in that bugging, mosquito-infested, soaking wet, alder-choked hellhole all summer for that many years in a row. No one wants to do that.

He made good content. Out camp anybody in this room. Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Corinne saying West Virginia. Kevin saying Michigan. Bridget saying Pennsylvania. Clay saying Pennsylvania. Steve saying Virginia. Kevin saying Michigan. Bridget saying Pennsylvania. Clay saying Pennsylvania. Steve saying Texas.

Cal saying Michigan. Sean saying Pennsylvania. And Ford saying Texas. The correct answer is Texas. Well done. Just dominating, dude. Well done. I mean, I knew Pennsylvania and Michigan were always neck and neck. Hey, Steve, why don't you tell us how you feel

about your performance so far? Sorry to interrupt. and neck. Hey, Steve, why don't you tell us how you feel about your performance so far? Sorry to interrupt. Go ahead. Now, this is according to data from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. They say that Texas sold over 1 million hunting licenses in 2018, which is a couple hundred thousand more than second place Pennsylvania. Texas also harvested about 600,000 deer that year, which is number one in the country.

Oh, it wasn't like per number of people. Total registered hunters. That's okay. I'm an ass. And they do it. What's remarkable is that many people in the woods in such a paucity of public hunting opportunities. But just a lot of huntable ground yeah now

why the question had to be worded as registered hunters because if it was just hunting licenses then you have states like wisconsin that i think sell twice as many actual hunting licenses by the time you figure in like upland licenses and deer tags and things like that so texas is number one for registered hunters but they're not necessarily at the top for everything else. Phil, we have two questions left. Give us a scoreboard update. We have three players still in the game. We have Ryan Callahan,

who has five points. Really living up to his reputation, we have Ford Van Fossen with six. Ford. In first place is the silent killer, Steven Rinaldo with seven seven is that a self nickname yes yes yeah steve's the the annoying player in the locker room he's like let me tell you uh we all know steven ronella is an amazing player and uh you know steven ronella really lived up to his performance today and i just want to thank god when i saw when i saw chapelle when i saw chapelle

the other night, Chappelle twice said, he twice described himself as the world's greatest comedian. I think he did that more than two times. I was surprised, but he was emphatic. Question nine. The topic is foraging. This next great question comes to us via Adam Hamilton.

If you have a question you think is right for MeatEater Trivia, you can send it to trivia at themeateater.com. Also known as the Appalachian banana, this is considered to be the largest fruit native to the United States. Also known as the Appalachian banana,

this is considered to be the largest fruit native to the United States. Steve, our guy in first, how do you feel about this? I wrote quick. Okay. Not cockily. Ford, how about you? I feel quite cockily about this one.

All right, good on you. Largest fruit native to the United States and its nickname is the Appalachian banana. Also called a custard apple from time to time. Dude, that's just a heavy hint. And look at the pens fly.

I feel that was suitably ambiguous. Listen, don't be doing that stuff, man. That's like Cal. Does that all the time. Makes me want to strangle him. Does everybody have an answer? No.

Sort of. For what the Appalachian banana is. That didn't help you anymore? It actually made it worse now when you gave a bonus nickname. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Corrine without an answer, Kevin without an answer, Bridget saying jackfruit, Clay saying pawpaw, Steve saying pawpaw,

Cal saying pawpaw, Sean without an answer, and Ford saying pawpaw. You guys got it. It's the pawpaw. I like the way Spencer sounds saying pawpaw. Can you say it one more time? It's better when he says jaguar. Now, this has got me thinking about the Appalachian banana hammock.

I don't know what that means. I don't either, but I could see a product. Good thing we got First Light folks here. Now they can have the pawpaw line. The pawpaw is found in most Midwestern and Southeastern states. Its texture has been compared to custard, and its flavor has been described as a cross between a banana, mango, and cantaloupe. They grow in pawpaw groves, you know, like a pawpaw patch.

You don't say. No, no, it's a unique characteristic. You never want to look for an apple? It's an apple grove. No, no, it's a unique characteristic. The one place you never want to look for an apple is an apple grove. No, no, no. See, like a persimmon tree. You could have like a lone persimmon tree. Pawpaws grow in patches.

Like you'll be walking through big open woods, usually on the northern slope, North Messick Slope. You got them in your country? Oh, yeah. I got them on my land. You ever eat them? They're very hard to find, ripe. You got to check the groves and patches.

The last question, Phil, give us a scoreboard update one more time because I think we still have a competition here, right? We do. Ford and Steve are battling it out. Ford has seven, Steve has eight. So if Steve slips up and Ford gets this right, then we're going on to the tiebreaker. Fucking freezer question.

Question 10. The topic is fishing. What great lake is said to have its own Bermuda Triangle where ships and planes often disappear? I feel like Steve might have an advantage here. What Great Lake is said to have its own Bermuda Triangle where ships and planes often disappear? Do you know this, Steve? No. Okay, so there's a chance for you here, Ford.

I'm just listing Great Lakes. Okay. I'm trying to do that. Pick one of them by the time we're done, though. The Bermuda Triangle of the Great Lakes is where? You tell us when we're good and we're going to reveal the answers, Ford. Don't overthink it.

In some horrible college marketing scheme, they named this downtown region in Missoula, Montana the Bermuda Triangle. I just despise that. I'd be a sucker for that. I like it. There's a Bermuda Triangle. I just despise that. I'd be a sucker for that. I like it.

There's a Bermuda Triangle in Bozeman. Oh, is there? It's the off-brow. Oh, sure. Maybe that's what I'm thinking of. Miley Brown. The scoop is no more. It's just a Bermuda line now.

If it doesn't have karaoke, right, Phil? I mean, why even go? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Corinne saying Huron, Kevin saying Superior, Bridget saying Michigan, Clay saying Superior, Steve saying Superior, Cal saying Michigan, Sean saying Superior, and Ford saying Superior. The correct answer is Michigan.

So Cal got it right and Bridget got it right. Steve is still our winner. How many did you right and Bridget got it right. Steve is still our winner. How many did you get right? Eight? Well done. That's the second time I've written Michigan on the board today. I felt pretty good about it both times. Steve, what happens next is you get to choose where the $500

donation goes. What's it going to be? It's not escaping my notice. It's it going to be? It's not escaping my notice. It's just zero excitement and enthusiasm. You can go ahead and speak in third person. When people win, I get so excited

for them. I get so happy and excited for them. I hate to break it to you, Steve, but I think everyone might have been pulling for Ford this game. They had a lot of support put behind him. I'm going to put my money. I used to be... I would always go to Theodore Roosevelt

Conservation Partnership. I strayed a little bit for our own land access initiative. I strayed for Seth Cantner's publisher. But I'm going back to TRCP. I think they'll like that hey okay talking about ford and steve if there were if we were if this were a bask two rival basketball teams that were

playing and there were two like top players and like one of the top players won uh-huh but we still didn't really feel good about the outcome of the wider game we would have them play one-on-one. Like after hours. Like Ford and Steve one-on-one. Sounds excellent. First Light folks, thank you for joining us. Ford, well done. We're going to have to have you back on to play again. That'd be awesome.

Again, the First Light store in Haley, Idaho. This whips ass. I dig it. We're going to have to come back in here and play just because it's so fun to hang out here. Not a mall kiosk. That's right. Not a mall kiosk. Join us next time for more Meat Eater Trivia,

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