The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 374: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia XXVIII

Episode Date: October 5, 2022

Spencer Neuharth hosts MeatEater Trivia with Steve Rinella, Seth Morris, Kelsey Morris, Jim Heffelfinger, Brody Henderson, Chester Floyd, Cory Calkins, Phil Taylor, and Corinne Schneider. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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without cell phone service as a special offer. You can get a free three months to try out OnX if you visit onxmaps.com slash meat. It's a meat-eater podcast. Welcome to Meat-Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Spencer Newarth, and today we're joined by Stephen Rinella, Brody Henderson, Seth Morris, Chester Floyd, Corinne Schneider, Corey Calkins, Kelsey Johnson. Kelsey Morris.

Kelsey Morris Johnson. And special guest, Jim Heffelfinger. If you're not familiar, this is a 10-round quiz show with questions from Meat Eaters 4 Verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking, and there is a prize. Meat Eater will donate $500 to the conservation organization of the winner's choosing. Now, Kelsey, this is your first time playing trivia. How do you feel about your odds? Well, I'm going to beat Seth, that's for sure. You think so? Yeah. Seth? No doubt. Any input there?

It wouldn't surprise me if she did, honestly. Okay, good. We need a new rivalry in the room. And after this episode, Jim will be the only guest who has played trivia twice. So, going into your second round of trivia, how do you feel about your chances this time, Jim? I'd like to donate to the Milder Foundation. Okay. He is very confident. Now, every episode, we reveal a new trivia stat,

and this week, we're looking at Jim's performance on episode 307. Jim got seven correct answers, which was good enough for second place. He lost to Steven Rinella that game, who got eight right answers. They were both tied going into the final question, but Jim couldn't come up with what fish goes by the nickname Copperbelly. Steve knew it was bluegill, and that gave him the victory. Jim, you feel any different about fishing questions this time around, or do you still leak confidence when it comes to those?

No, I think my performance today depends on the number of bullshit fish questions. Okay. Hey, did you throw him a bone last time? I did not. We hadn't adopted that rule quite. Hey, did you throw him a bone last time? I did not. We hadn't adopted that rule quite yet. But you're throwing him a bone this time. I would consider. Is Jim a guest?

Two this time. Second. No, not at this point, no. Jim is a guest, so he will get one bone thrown to him. Now, although Jim couldn't pull off the win, he is tied with Andrew Zimmern for the most correct answers by a guest. So Jim, you do have that going for you. On a previous game of trivia, we have some housekeeping to get to here. On a previous game of trivia, I said that the world's longest mule deer migration is a 150 mile journey that starts and ends in Wyoming. This event is referred to as

the Red Desert to Hoback Migration. But our very own guest, Jim Heffelfinger, wrote in to let me know that in 2018, biologists discovered an amazing extension of this journey that changes what we previously knew about this deer herd. So Jim, tell folks about doe number 255. Yeah, doe number 255. Everybody talks about the Red Desert to Hoback. It's been illustrated and studied quite a bit. But as you said, in 2018, this one doe, 255, did that Red Desert from South Central Wyoming to Hoback

and then continued, left all of her herd mates, continued up into Idaho for a total of 242 mile one way trip extending that. So it does not stop in, in Wyoming, um, but continues on to Idaho and, and, and then extends that, which is the longest migration in the lower 48 for an ungulate. And I think they said she's now done it six times over that she's done that same journey. So it's like a real, uh real migration that she's pulling off. Yeah, right. She did that the first time.

And so they didn't know that was just some errant movement up that far. And so they waited to see if she was going to come back and her radio collar failed. So then they had no idea. Was that just a spurious thing? And then every year they capture more animals in Red Desert on the winter range there. And in the course of capturing it, they captured her back in the red desert, put another collar on, and then have been monitoring her ever since. Wow. It's amazing.

You watch an animation of where that deer traveled to get there, and you're like, okay, it's going to stop here. All right, it can't go any further, right? Like, all right, that's it, right? And it just keeps going. It's just crazy. One of the people who worked on that project actually wrote in and said that they discovered another group that is peeling off and going into Idaho, making that a 200 mile migration, which beats the traditional red desert to Hoback. But DOE 255 right now holds the record. Now the Shelby index for this round of trivia is a two and a half. So this is a tougher batch of questions.

I don't know. I don't think it's a really tough batch. I think maybe it's more, there's more questions that are true to our four verticals that are more endemic, less non-endemic questions. So it's a tougher batch if you're not a hardcore hunter and angler. And with that, we are on to a game of trivia.

Play the drop, Corinne. Look, I need to know what I stand to win. Everything. How's that? You stand to win everything. Game on, suckers! Question one. The topic is fishing, and as always, this will be multiple choice.

What fishing line company created the Not Wars video series in the mid-2000s? Is it Power Pro, Suffix, Cast King, or Berkeley. What fishing line company created the Not Wars video series in the mid-2000s? Was it Power Pro, Suffix, Cast King, or Berkeley? Chester, Seth, did you boys know this one? No. No, I don't know of this. I don't know of this series. It's a great series.

Gotta go watch it if you haven't seen it. Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying Berkeley. Jim saying Berkeley. Chester saying Berkeley. Brody saying Berkeley. Corey saying Suffix.

Kelsey saying Suffix. And Seth saying Berkeley. The correct answer is Berkeley. Hey! Oh, my God. How much shit-talking are you allowed to do in this room? As much as you need. You better be worried about me, not Brody.

Berklee created a custom knot strength testing machine and used it to gather data on dozens of knots. They finally crowned their champions in 2010, declaring the Fish and Fool knot the strongest knot for mono or braid and the triple loop knot the strongest for fluoro. You know, I feel like we could take our Warren or Brax or shear force test and just do knot strength tests with it. Yeah, probably.

Not exactly sure that will work. It measures resistance. But to a point, Steve, a lot of the times the knot won't break in the line well first. Like if it's a good tied knot. You need to go watch the knot series. It's great. They found probably like 10 knots that would

actually increase the strength of line. So if you had 20 pound line, they found some that would go 130% of that strength and they were hitting like 26, 27 pounds of force before it was busting. Really cool series. You learn a lot. Question two.

The topic is conservation. This is our listener question of the week, which was won by Phil Hooey for sending this great question. Phil is going to get a signed copy of the Scavenger's Guide to Oat Cuisine. If you want a chance to win the listener question of the week, then send your question to trivia at themeateater.com. There are three states where wolves weren't extirpated. Name two of them. There are three states where wolves weren't extirpated. Name two of those states. How do you feel about this one, Jim? I think you had the quickest answers in the room. I feel pretty good, but not 100%.

We'll see. Steve, you know this one? Oh, yeah. Do you know all three, you think? Mm-hmm. Okay. Does everybody have an answer? Just looking for two of the three.

Yeah. Chester's still thinking. Do you have one of them, Chester? I think. You'll be good tuned, Chester. It's thinking and drinking. That's probably done already. I think it has been. That was random, kind of.

A little bit. Whenever I look at you, I try to think of songs for you to sing at your live show in Atlanta. Thinking and drinking? That's stupid. Never mind. I think that's been done by multiple country artists at this point. There's no way it hasn't. Go ahead and reveal your answers.

We have Steve saying Alaska and Minnesota. Jim saying Minnesota and Montana. Chester saying Alaska and Minnesota. Brody saying Wisconsin and Minnesota. Corey saying Wisconsin and Minnesota. Kelsey saying Michigan and Minnesota. Brody saying Wisconsin and Minnesota. Corey saying Wisconsin and Minnesota. Kelsey saying Michigan and Montana. And Seth saying Washington and Idaho. The three states are Alaska, Minnesota, and Michigan.

So the room did pretty well. Although wolves were extirpated from places like Washington, Oregon, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, New Mexico, Arizona, and Wisconsin, they were never fully removed from Alaska, Minnesota, or Michigan. Michigan was actually down to just one confirmed male in 1959, a year before they ended the state's bounty program. Did Montana not have some that were crossing back and forth on the border? I might have to send you an email. Okay. Yeah, well, that's where it gets a little tricky because they were periodically crossing the border

and say they were missing it. The lake could get a good freeze and some had squirted across. This was according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, so you can argue with them, Jim. There were definitely periods of time when there were none in Montana. Question three.

The topic is cooking. What herb comes from the leaves of coriander plants? What herb comes from the leaves of coriander plants? You guys should all know this. Why is that, Corinne? Don't give too many hints. Shut your trap. I'm not saying anything. Okay. A pretty heavy hint, though.

Anyway. I'm just trying to think, like, what cuisine is coriander? Let's just do our... I'm thinking, but I'm thinking in my mind. Steve wants just straight facts on this podcast. He's thinking and drinking in his mind.

No banter. I'm thinking in my mind. One more time. What herb comes from the leaves of coriander plants? Brody, you know this one? Yeah. Steve, you know this one? Yes.

Let's get out. Well, we have folks still trying to come up with an answer Corey how you doing over there not good okay when are we gonna come up with a formal amount of time at which you're done thinking the podcast needs an informal amount of time just so a question can breathe and we can have some banter. That's bullshit. I know, I'd like to have a second full. No, I need to just have a minute. Is everybody ready?

Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying cilantro, cilantro. Chester saying oregano. Brody saying cilantro. Corey saying thyme. Kelsey saying cumin. Seth without an answer. The correct answer is cilantro. Now, this can be confusing because the dried seeds create the coriander spice,

but the leaves and the stalk are known as cilantro. Cilantro is the Spanish name for the coriander leaves and is grouped in the parsley family. You want to hear a little tidbit about cilantro? Certainly. Something like 20% of the population has some genetic predisposal to like cilantro tastes like soap

to them. And 23andMe can tell you if you think cilantro tastes like soap. I got it. I love cilantro. Yeah, it's heartbreaking

because I love cilantro. Yeah. Same thing in our marriage. I love cilantro. Shelby hates it. in our marriage. I love cilantro. Shelby hates it. Yeah. Wasn't there one thing in Hawaii that we had that you said it was all right? Wasn't it like that dip that we used with that goat or that sauce that we used?

Oh, yeah, because everything else drowned the taste of the cilantro out. Yeah. That's the only reason why. It's not cilantro. It's the only reason why. It's not cilantro, but it's the previous question. You know how you said you felt dumb for not thinking of Alaska?

There's one of my favorite quotes I heard from a History Channel executive one time. He said, our audience... No, he said, the only other country our audience is interested in

is Alaska. It's true, true too by their show line. Question four. The topic is hunting. This next great question comes to us via Matt Campbell. If you have a question you think is right for meat eater trivia, you can send

it to trivia at themeateater.com. Now this is a visual question. If you want to play along and see what the room is seeing, then go to Instagram and check out at Spencer Newharth. I'll make it my most recent post. Oh, maybe you could put it on because Instagram stole Jim's Instagram account. Maybe you can put it on his new Instagram account and he could try to recover. There you go.

How's that going so far, Jim? Have you recovered all the followers yet? No, no, no. He got his back and Iulum knocked in the dirt. Here is the question. These are considered to be the world's oldest duck decoys, which

were discovered in a cave in Nevada. They are thought to be about 2,200 years old. What kind of duck is the decoy imitating? Again, these are considered to be the world's oldest duck decoys, which were discovered in a cave in Nevada. They're thought to be about 2,200 years old. And here's your question. What kind of duck is the decoy imitating? Some very quick answers from folks looking at the photo.

Again, go to Instagram if you want to see this. How confident are you, Chester? You know this? Yeah. I'm confident. Jim, you're a deer guy. How about a duck guy? Yeah, I can hold my own. I went to high school in Horicon, which is at the southern end of the largest freshwater marsh in North America.

Pretty cool place. Most expensive muskrats in the country. Hey, have you thrown him his bone yet? No. Not yet. Hope not. I didn't recognize it. It was probably that wolf one that I got wrong.

Does everybody have an answer about what decoy this is? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying canvas back. Jim saying canvas back. Canvas back. Brody saying redhead. Bro Steve saying canvas back. Jim saying canvas back. Canvas back. Brody saying redhead. Brody. Corey saying canvas back.

She choked. Kelsey saying mallard. Mallard. Seth saying canvas back. They got it. It is a canvas back. I just didn't know if canvas backs went that far inland. Archaeologists.

Just go by what it looks like. Redhead. You know what? I started writing redhead and changed my mind once I thought about it. There you go. I was like, that's not what that is. Archaeologists discovered 11 canvas-backed decoys in the Lovelock Cave, as well as a few others imitating Canada geese, snow geese, whistling swan, and mergansers.

The ancient humans that built them used tule rushes to create the decoy shape and then tied real duck feathers to the woven cords. Archaeologists believe these decoys were placed on water with a fine net above them, which entangled birds that tried to land in the spread. That's nuts, man. That's great. And they look beautiful. Like these things are a work of art.

I'd like to go to that museum and take that. After hours. They found some other decoys in that cave as well that had entire Canada goose heads stretched over the neck. So like they took and they skinned out a Canada goose neck, kept the skull in the feathers and then stretched it on the decoy. So these things looked like as good as they were. And they were storing them in a cave. Like it was like the storage unit. They had everything in this cave.

The cave was a problem because they had some folks harvesting guana from there. And those people didn't want to come forward until they were satisfied with the amount of guana that they had taken out. So a lot of stuff was lost in that process. Got it. But yeah, they found tons of good things in there, including all these decoys. Wow. That's crazy. That's great.

Question five. We'll get a scoreboard update after this. The topic is gear. What city is home to the Bass Pro Shops Pyramid? Bass Pro Shops Pyramid. What city is home to the Bass Pro Shops Pyramid?

Anybody know this one? I think so. No, maybe not. I know the state. The Bass so. No, maybe not. I know the state. The Bass Pro Shops Pyramid. The Bass Pro Shops Pyramid. There's only one of them in the world. And what city? That's where the headquarters is, right?

Is it like an Egyptian pyramid? I'm not going to say any more. Shush. Looking for the city. Think to yourselves. I think I've been there. Just think to yourself. Think to yourselves. I think I've been there. Just think to yourself. Think to yourself.

That's not going to give anything away. But why not just think to yourself? Some people can hear. Some people think better if they talk out loud. That and it makes it maybe a little more interesting. They always want us to talk. It's a better listener experience. Chester to shut up or Steve to

close his ears. Again, what city is home to the Bass Pro Shops Pyramid? You ever been to Boston, Chester? If I don't get this right, it's all over for me. I think my grandma was from there. I think you can get a direct flight there from here.

It's not giving it away, Steve. It's giving it all away. Does everybody have an answer? Chester's trying to think of all the places he's been. Coming up with a city. He's like, Beijing? No, I've never been there. Go ahead and reveal your answers.

We have Steve saying St. Louis. Jim saying Springfield. Chester saying Branson, Brody saying Nashville, Corey saying Omaha, Kelsey saying St. Louis, and Seth saying St. Louis. Nobody got it. The correct answer is Memphis. Oh.

I would have never guessed that. Was that the bone for Jim? Damn it. No, still not the Jim bone. The Bass Pro Shop Pyramid was built in 1954 and was long used as an arena that held live events like Memphis Grizzlies games, Rolling Stones concerts, and even Lennox Lewis versus Mike Tyson. The arena was abandoned in 2005, but in 2010, Bass Pro Shop signed a 55-year lease with the city of Memphis to place their mega store there. It's now home to a hotel, archery range, laser arcade, restaurant, aquarium, and bowling alley. So, Chester, have you been there?

I have not been there. Okay. So, a hint that wouldn't even help anybody because Chester didn't know it. Hey, did you notice that I was playing a perfect game until then? I did not. We will now hear from Corinne to get a scoreboard update, which I think means Steve will have four. Yes.

Surprise, everyone. Steve has four. Tied for second place is Jim and Chester with three each. Brody and Seth with two each, Corey with one, and Kelsey not on the board. You don't understand how angry that makes me. It really brings it home when they do the score. I know.

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Question six. The topic is habitat. This next great question comes to us via Nathan Powers. If you have a question you think is right for MeatEater Trivia, you can send it to trivia at themeateater.com. You will know for certain when it's Jim's bone. Food plot fertilizers always list NPK values. The N is nitrogen. What do the P and K stand for?

Food plot fertilizers always list N, P, K values. The N is nitrogen. You need to tell me what the P stands for and what the K stands for. Steve knew this one immediately. No, no, no. Oh, no.

Portions. Okay. Portions. Looking for the P and the K. Jim, no, no. Oh, no. Portions. Okay. Portions. Looking for the P and the K. Jim, you know this one? He does. Yep. Confidently. And it's not even the Jim question yet. You should know this.

Why should you? Oh, okay. Why should you know this one, Kelsey? It's a cultural degree. That's right. Which is surprising because I'm an artist, but yeah. N-P-K. I'll tell you that the N is nitrogen. You need to tell me what the P and the K stand for. Does everybody have an answer?

I eventually would. You'd have the right answer or A answer? Doesn't know. Seth, you know this one? Can you just have one? Can Zorka just have one? No, we need both. P and K.

I know it, Spencer. Okay. Why do you know this one? Also, I have a degree and I used to be a food plot nut. Really? So, yeah. Where were you planting food plots at? In Pennsylvania.

I like it. Does everybody have an answer? No. No. I should know this. I've planted a fair amount of food plots. I got Brody tapping his hand like a watch saying we need to move on with it. Steve? Dude, I'm stuck.

Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying phosphate. Jim saying phosphorus and potassium. Oh no, I had that! Chester with and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying phosphate. Jim saying phosphorus and potassium. Oh, no, no, I had that! Chester without A is really saying potassium and calcium. Corey is saying phosphate and potassium. Kelsey is saying phosphorus

and question mark. Seth is saying phosphorus and potassium. The P is phosphorus and the K is potassium. I had that. I had that. So the room did pretty well. I had that. You only had one answer.

Why don't you have the second one? Because I thought phosphate replaced, I thought potassium. Steve is always the guy who is first to shame Corinne for like not writing down a guess. And then he didn't even keep his guess that he had written down. I wasn't, listen. We're listening. Do you get a half point? No, that's a problem.

That was your chance to pounce, Jackrabbit Jim. That's right. That's right. These are some of the most important macronutrients for plants. Simply put, the higher the number, the more concentrated the element is. So if your fertilizer has an NPK value of 25.5. That means it has four times as much nitrogen as it does phosphorus and potassium. And if it is a 20, 20, 20, then it has twice as

much concentration of all three nutrients than a bag of 10, 10, 10. Here's the deal. My soils class finally paid off. I knew the P, right? I was like, okay, P is potassium. But I was like, then what could the K be? Because I know phosphate needs to be in there, and that's a P.

Almost. The K will get you. They ran out of Ps on the periodic chart. They had to come up with something else. Question seven, the topic is cooking. What federal agency replaced the food pyramid with a plate in 2011? What federal agency replaced the food pyramid with a plate in 2011? Quick answer from Steve.

Seems as though he knows this one. Brody, you know this? Well, I think I do. Okay. I'm out of this thing, though. You think so? We'll get a scoreboard update and a few questions here. I'm suffering, huh? Yeah.

I'm wasting my time. Again, what federal agency replaced the food pyramid with a plate in 2011? I'd have a lot of respect if you just walked out of the room. Like, if you know you can't win and you just leave, I'd respect that. Does everybody have an answer? No. I don't know, man. I should know this.

Federal agency. Chester, you going to come up with one? I don't even think this is a federal agency. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying the FDA. Jim saying the USDA. Chester without an answer. Brody saying FDA.

Corey saying Food and Drug Administration. Kelsey saying FDA. Kelsey's on answer. Brody saying FDA. Corey saying Food and Drug Administration. Kelsey saying FDA. Kelsey's on the board. Seth saying FDA. The correct answer is the U.S. Department of Agriculture. I thought I was wrong. It is not the FDA. I was looking at all the FDAs and I was thinking, oh crap.

It is not the FDA. It is the USDA. I knew it. I'm never doing this again. That was a humunculus all the way. That was a humunculus all the way. I was a humunculus all the way. I knew that was the answer. God, I felt confident in that one. Because I wrote it down and I'm thinking, Department

of Agriculture, why would it be? That's why it's a good question. You would think food. Yeah, they got that assigned to the wrong. It's not that I was wrong. They're wrong. They're wrong. The USDA introduced the first food pyramid

in 1992 and replaced it first food pyramid in 1992 and replaced it with my pyramid in 2005 and replaced that with my plate in 2011. The biggest change from the 1992 pyramid to the 2011 plate is that fats, like nuts and oils, are less discouraged. Another difference is that the grain servings were cut in half. Now explain to me what category that was. That's cooking.

Yeah, that's cooking. Meat is a big part of the pyramid and plate. I was just checking. I forgot. That old school pyramid was hilarious. Oh, it was like dairy all day long. Yeah. Just white bread, as much as you want.

Question eight. The topic is conservation. This next great question comes to us via Anthony Frith. If you have a question you think is right for Meat Eater Trivia, you can send it to trivia at themeateater.com. Is this Jim's bone? No. This is an audio question.

I'm going to play you one minute of one of the greatest conservation songs ever written. You need to tell me who the artist is. And progress came and took its toll. And in the name of flood control, they made their plans and they claimed the land. Now the day took hold and dried. Is it Chester? Could be. So blow, blow, Seminole wind You know like you're never gonna blow again

I'm calling to you like a long-lost friend But I know who you are And blow, blow from the Oka Choke All the way up to Dikinoki. Oka's the home of the Seminoles. The alligators in the garden.

That's the greatest conservation song? It's one of the greatest conservation songs ever written. I'll give you that. Now, Steve knew the lyrics, but do you know the artist? I think I know his first name. I'm looking for the artist. Now you're going to need a last name in there. Going to need

a last name. Does anybody know this one? Maybe. Maybe from Chester. Man, that song, I was, Friday and Saturday nights, I was washing dishes at Steiner's Point when that song came out. One thing I love about this artist is a lot of folks who are fans of his,

they like to say something like, I don't always listen to blank, but when I do, my neighbors do as well. Meaning you really crank it loud. Does everybody have an answer? Looking for the artist. Corinne, you know this one? You were bopping your head over there.

No, don't know it. There was a sign that said, at Steiner's point, there was a sign that said, if there's time to lean, there's time to clean. And the dude that ran the griddle changed it to say, if there's time to lean, there's time to make a burger. There you go. I worked at a cafe in high school and we had a similar thing. The manager there would always say

they knew the people who would get the dishwater shits. So whenever the dishes had to start happening, they would be in the bathroom not cleaning dishes. So that's the dishwater shits. Does everybody have an answer for who this artist is? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying John Montgomery.

Jim saying Luke Combs. Chester saying Joe Diffie. Brody saying Black Sabbath. Corey saying James Taylor. Kelsey without an answer. Seth saying Joe Diffie. Nobody got it. The correct answer is John Anderson. I knew it was John. I told you.

I really started with a J. Anderson wrote that song in 1992 about his home state of Florida and how the military attempted to drain the Everglades during the Second Seminole War. His lyrics reference Seminole chief Osceola, whose ghost cries out over the destruction of the swamp for financial gain.

Anderson was named Bass Pro's Conservation destruction of the swamp for financial gain. Anderson was named Bass Pro's Conservation Partner of the Year in 2016 for his environmental work in South Florida. And earlier this year, our friend Luke Combs covered that song on a John Anderson tribute album. So I'm not going to give it to you, Jim, but that's a good answer. I was 100% sure Luke Combs was wrong and I was pretty pleased. He just released his own version of that song, which is also great. Corinne, give us a scoreboard update. We have two questions left. Guess who's winning?

It is Jim in the lead with five. Steve in second with four. Seth with three. Chester with three. Brody and Corey with two, and Kelsey,

still not. No, she had one. No. Oh, no, she didn't. You said I had one, but you were wrong. I think you gotta cancel the bone. No, it's right here.

How could you get the leader a bone? It would have made a difference if it was question three or question nine. It's all the same. The Mueller Foundation does a lot of good habitat work. They've really helped us out a lot. Question nine. The topic is Jim Heffelfinger or biology.

What do you call the permanent outgrowth on a deer skull where antlers grow from? What do you call the permanent outgrowth on a deer skull where antlers grow from? I do you call the permanent outgrowth on a deer skull? I think I know this. Dude. We have Jim giggling to himself over here. Seems like Brody and Steve know it as well. I was like

throwing the room a bone. Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying pedicle, pedicle. Did I spell it wrong? Chester's pedicle. We'll give it to you. Pedicle, pedicle, pedicle.

Everybody got it. The funny thing about pedicle is everybody pronounced it like medical to rhyme like medical because that's what Anthony Bubenik, a famous antler researcher, said that it rhymes with medical. But Anthony Bubenik knew about six languages and English was like his fifth language. So we're all pronouncing it based on Anthony. What do you think? Should it be pedicle? I don't know.

I don't know. Ooh. Now deer pedicles have been called the fingerprint of the whitetail world because each one has a unique structure specific to different bucks. Pedicle injuries are just one way that a deer can grow a non-typical rack, along with leg injuries, testicle injuries, hormone imbalances, and genetics. Corinne, I don't think we need another scoreboard update since everybody got that one right,

except for Kelsey is now on the board. I'm on the board, everybody. Thank you. Kelsey has one. Thank you very much. We're still down to our last question. We still have Jim and Steve in it. We would need Jim to get it wrong and Steve to get it right to go to overtime. And the topic is fishing.

That's the right. I don't really know that Jim's weak. This is going to be the 1980 hockey, the Olympics in hockey. That's what it's going to be. I'm going to pull out a fishing win. Two anglers have won the Bassmaster Classic four times. Name one of those anglers. Oh, my gosh.

I'm going to blank on this. Two anglers have won the Bassmaster Classic four times. Name one of those anglers. Jim had a pretty quick answer anyway, so he might know this one. Chester is distraught right now. I'm trying to remember. How many of them? Just one.

Just one. Just one of the two anglers. You obviously know this. That have won it twice. Jim, how confident are you? Oh, I'm pretty confident. You think you got it? Yep.

Okay. Steve, how confident are you? Not at all. Oh, no. We might just have an outright victory. I'm trying to remember his name, and I cannot remember it. That's the key, remembering his name. Yeah.

Does everybody have an answer? This isn't him, but... Son of a bitch, man. I know I don't have it right. I'm just going to leave. Everybody else? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying Iconelli.

Jim saying BS. That's who I was trying to think of. Chester saying Bill Dance. Brody with his board upside down. Kevin Van Dam. Kevin Van Dam. Corey saying Bill Dance. Kelsey without an answer.

Seth saying Kevin Van Dam. The two anglers are Rick Clunn and Kevin Van Dam. The two anglers are Rick Clunn and Kevin Van Dam. Doesn't change anything, though. Doesn't change anything. Steve didn't get it. Jim didn't get it either, but Jim is our winner. Walks away with a very anti-climatic victory.

How many did he get right for the victory? Jim got six for his victory. Six. Well done. As forecasted by Jim. It felt like an anticlimactic and weak win. A weak win. Does that mean you had a weak loss?

Yeah. Is Steve a sore loser? He's like, see you toward the end. They're all wrong. That's because I did such a great job at the beginning. I could coast. Wait, is Jim our second guest winner? Jim is our second guest winner.

Now, here is the anticlimactic part. What are you going to do with your $500 donation? Mule Deer Foundation. Why should people support the Mule Deer Foundation? Mule Deer Foundation. And why should people support the Mule Deer Foundation? Mule Deer Foundation is really habitat oriented. They do tons of good habitat work that's putting mule deer on the ground, not just, you know, talking about mule deer conservation, but they're doing measurable stuff that's helping mule deer on the ground. But I also chair a Western Mule Deer Working Group for the Western Association of Fish and Wildlife agencies. They have always been there to have our back when we needed some funding to do a publication layout or fund the printing of some publications or give us meeting rooms.

They've really been kind of our support for a long time. So they do a lot of good stuff. I will give you credit for this. When you kept saying where you're going to give your money, we all laughed. We thought you were just being cocky, but you knew where your money was going to go. He was like a fortune teller. Yeah, he knew, right? Let's see into the future.

I'll point out that I thought, yeah, I said you'd probably beat me. Oh, yeah, you're a fortune teller, too. Okay, Steve. Well done, Jim. I would say that was a strong victory. Good job representing trivia guests everywhere. Join us next time

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