The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 410: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia XLV

Episode Date: February 1, 2023

Spencer Neuharth hosts MeatEater Trivia with Steven Rinella, Dr. Jonathan Reisman, Ryan Callaghan, Brody Henderson, Seth Morris, Chester Floyd, Phil Taylor, and Corinne Schneider. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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without cell phone service as a special offer. You can get a free three months to try out OnX if you visit onxmaps.com slash meat. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Spencer Newhart, and today we're joined by Steve Rinella, Ryan Callahan, Brody Henderson, Seth Morris, Chester Floyd, Corinne Schneider, and Dr. Jonathan Reisman.

Now, John, this is your first time playing trivia. How do you feel about your chances? So-so. Okay. Are you familiar with the show? Do you listen? Yes. And how do you normally perform? Depends on the topic chances? So-so. Okay. Are you familiar with the show? Do you listen? Yes. And how do you normally perform? Depends on the topic, but so-so. Okay.

What would be of the four categories? Very noncommittal. What would be a strong category and a weak one, you think? Can you remind me of the four categories? Hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking. He's going to dominate cooking. Okay. Yeah, probably.

I mean, yeah, hunting, conservation, and cooking. The only so-so. Now, before we play, we need you to weigh in on Seth having mercury poison. Seth, give him some details about what you were eating and what you were feeling. Oh, let's say in a, I'd say two weeks time. Well, I should say in weeks time. Um, well, I should say in a month's time,

over 50% of my meals were fish. Um, big plan, like Cobia and like stuff like that. I, I was having some like fish from local reservoirs here too, but, um,

yeah, big pelagic stuff. And, uh, at a certain point, like my hands started going numb. And I was having, like, real fuzzy, like, memory loss stuff. Those were, like, only the two symptoms I could nail down.

And then you stopped eating the fish. And I stopped eating the fish and everything went away. Like, how quickly did it go away? I would say a week-ish. And your wife had some symptoms as well? Yeah. Yeah, I mentioned it to my wife the one night. I was like, man, my hands are like getting numb lately.

And she's like, mine have too. That's really weird. And she was eating a similar amount? Yeah, we were eating the same stuff. Yeah. I mean, sounds convincing. Like neurologic symptoms are a very common side effect of mercury poisoning. I guess you didn't go

psychotic but just some no memory loss one day though i thought maybe i remember i i i called my friend to ask him a question and he didn't answer and he called me back like two minutes later and was like what'd you call me for and And I was like, dude, I have absolutely no clue why I called you. I remember calling him, but had no clue why. That doesn't normally happen? No, that does not normally happen. But does Seth still have mercury in his system because it builds up? Well, does he weigh a little bit more than he did? Probably it's mostly cleansed from your system, even if there's a little bit left over. How does it take to be honest I don't know a whole lot about mercury poisoning I've seen a grand total of zero cases in my medical

career okay so I I'm going off what I learned in medical school eight nine years ago we need Seth to donate his body to science and then we'll get some answers yeah we should I mean it would be interesting to get a hair sample or something else that might show. I don't know if a blood test would show at this point, maybe when you're having symptoms, but just for curiosity's sake. Come over here. We'll pluck one of those mustache hairs off. They fall out all the time, so you can...

Look, there's one right there. Now, each week here on Meat Eater Trivia, we reveal a new stat. This week, we're looking at the performance of Meat Eater BFFs Seth and Chester. We'll go category by category here. So when it comes to hunting, who do you think gets more right between you two? Oh, I don't know. Chester? In the hunting category, Chester gets 60% of questions right, while Seth gets 45%.

We'll go to conservation. Who do you think does better in conservation? Chester. Seth. Seth gets... This is going to be a total nice-off. Oh, gosh. It's got to be.

Couldn't be me. Seth gets 39% of conservation questions right, while Chester gets 21%. How about with cooking? Who gets more cooking questions right? Oh, I know that's Chester. I think. Chester, you know me? I feel like I do terrible with cooking.

I don't know. Chester gets 44% of cooking questions right, while Seth is at 37%. Now, here is the big one for you two. Between the two fishing buddies, who is better at fishing trivia? This is the one that will make us fight. You think Seth? What do you think? I'm going to hope Seth.

Chester gets 54% of fishing questions right, while Seth gets 38%. Blowing him out of the water him out there's gonna be a new captain that walleye boat this year why does seth have a win on the board and chester doesn't have a win on the board oh he does now for your overall performance is a meat eater trivia it's very tight on average chester gets 43 percent of questions correct while seth gets 40 percent of questions correct so seth is just three percentage points behind Chester, which can all change from one good game by Seth or one bad game by Chester. Very tight.

Better step it up here. What if Chet and I just become enemies now? Are you going to feel bad that you did that? A little bit. We'll figure it out. Now we have some housekeeping to get to before we play trivia. Steve and I have been squabbling about the definition of squab for a few months now. Steve believes that the term squab is specific to rock doves, which are more commonly known as street pigeons. And when I asked this question on the Game of Trivia, Steve argued that the players who said a squab is a pigeon rather than a street pigeon shouldn't get the answer correct.

Well, now we can settle this debate. Zach Carson wrote in to say that in the book, Hope is a Thing with Feathers, which details the extinction of six North American birds, that the word squab is used to describe juvenile passenger pigeons. The book goes into detail about how Native Americans ate a lot of passenger pigeon squabs and made butter with their fat. I've also located other sources like Stanford University and the Audubon Society that reference baby passenger pigeons, baby scaled pigeons, and baby band-tailed pigeons as squabs. So the term squab can be used to describe any type of juvenile pigeon, not just street pigeons. Whatever.

That's your rebuttal? It's better than I hoped for. That's it? Yeah. Okay. Now the Shelby Index for this round of trivia is a four. I could be like, oh, I was wrong. But like, okay.

All right. The Shelby Index. Why belabor the point? That's right. I was. The Shelby Index for this round of trivia is a four. So our winner should get about eight correct answers. And with that, we're on to the game of trivia.

Play the drop, Phil. Hold on one sec, Phil. What's up? Here it is. This is what I was waiting for. Are you sure that that was my point? Okay, yes, because we argued about it during the question, and then a future episode I gave you your own book

and had you read a passage from it. I know, and my passage backed up my... Your passage was broad and said pigeons. You said squab was a baby pigeon. But you're sure that I wasn't arguing against people using it like baby birds in general or something like that? I'm sure. Next episode you're on, we'll play up the audio again if you need to revisit this. Well, you're picking a pretty old scab there, buddy.

Listen, we're all... It's like we're talking about shit from years ago, so I can't really even remember. I can't really remember. It'd be like me fighting with my wife. Well, that one time, you know what I mean? The difference is we have audio of this. We'll come back with audio next episode. This isn't the last time we'll talk about

squabs. Phil, play the drop. Look, I need to know what I stand to win. Everything. How's that? i stand to win everything how's that you just tend to win everything game on suckers oh can i tell you something real quick yeah my daughter got recognized at the ski at the sledding hill whoa by the By the Game On Suckers. What? Really? That's a trivia super fan.

How'd this go? Someone said to her, are you the Game On girl? Wow. I recognize your voice. Did she like that or was it like a little bit frightening? I didn't get a sense. Debbie wasn't frightening to her. It was kind of matter of fact telling.

Question one. The topic is fishing, and as always, this will be multiple choice. This first great question comes to us via Corey Betancourt. If you have a question you think is right for Meat Eater Trivia, you can send it to trivia at themeateater.com. Which of these world record fish is biggest? Is it blue catfish, lake sturgeon, common carp, or alligator gar? This is measured by weight.

Which of these world record fish is biggest? Your four choices are blue catfish, lake sturgeon, common carp, or alligator gar. Looking for the biggest of the four. Common carp or alligator gar? Looking for the biggest of the four. Blue catfish, lake sturgeon, common carp, alligator gar. Does everybody have an answer? No. Son of a bitch.

I can tell you which three it is. Steve, have you caught a blue catfish? Mm-hmm. Have you caught a lake sturgeon? Mm-mm. That was a no? No. Common carp? My pens. Alligator gar? Nope. I always get a lake sturgeon? Mm-mm. That was a no? No. Common carp?

My pens. Alligator gar? Nope. I always get a bad pen. Okay, so two out of four you have personal experience with. Not record holders. All right. Does everybody have an answer, Brody? I do.

I think I got it right. I'm about to. What do you got there, Brody? You're about to see. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying alligator gar. John saying lake sturgeon. Chester saying alligator gar.

Brody saying alligator gar. Corinne saying blue cat. Seth saying blue cat. Cal saying alligator gar. Can I tell you who doesn't have it? Seth and Corinne. The correct answer is alligator gar. The world record common carp is 75 pounds.

The world record blue cat is 143 pounds. What'd you have, Chester? Alligator Gar. So he just passed up Seth even badder. I'm fishing. The world record lake surgeon is 168 pounds. You started over. I was talking.

I do want to hear this. Here they are. Common carp. The world record is 75 pounds. Blue catfish is 143 pounds. Lake sturgeon is 168 pounds. And the world record alligator gar is 279 pounds. It was caught out of the Rio Grande in Texas in 1951.

So over 100 pounds heavier than the world record Lake Sturgeon. I would have guessed all those except the blue cat. I would have guessed to be bigger. Well, definitely Lake Sturgeon. I thought Lake Sturgeon would be a lot closer to alligator. That'd be a good little genre for you for tiebreakers. Would be what is the, right? We've done it.

We did the world record crappie, which came from Tennessee. We've done the world record turkey, which the NWTF keeps track of. So we've addressed it before. Question two. Yeah, I knew that. The topic is hunting. Scooby-Doo is this type of dog Which was bred to hunt wild boars Scooby-Doo

Is this type of dog Which was bred to hunt wild boars Brody with an authoritative answer He knows it What's the biggest flathead cat? I think it's smaller than the biggest blue That's the one we talked about before that came out of a reservoir in Kansas. So like 80

some pounds was sticking in my head. Bigger than that, I believe. Find out for a second here. One more time. Blue cap's shocking. Scooby-Doo is this type of dog which was bred to hunt wild boars. Brody, how confident are you? 100%. 100%. Steve,

does that make you nervous? I wish Phil could turn off the thing for me. I have a question for Chester. About the game of trivia? No, no, no. It's about my hat. Yes. Let me see your hat.

Oh, yeah. The proliferation of that brand of hat. What do you mean? The brand or the hat? The style of hat? No. With a little string on it? It's just, it's like.

You don't like it? If you were to profile somebody who wears that kind of hat. So wait, is it the brand or the hat? Passed through Austin recently would be the profile. Yes, exactly. Oh. Phil, do you think you would know this answer? Oh, yeah. Okay.

One more time. Scooby-Doo is this type of dog which was bred to haunt wild boars? Seth, you got an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying Basset Hound. Damn it! John saying Pointer. Chester without an answer.

Brody saying Great Dane. Crin saying Bloodhound. Seth saying answer. Brody saying Great Dane. Corinne saying Bloodhound. Seth saying Ridgeback. Cal saying Great Dane. We have a correct answer. Brody. It's Great Dane. Oh, who had that?

I think Cal got it too. Cal and Brody. No, you didn't have it. I had it. He had it. Let me see. Although the name implies that they are from Denmark, the breed actually originates from Germany. They combined the height of an Irish wolfhound, speed of the greyhound, and muscle of the English mastiff to create what 19th century hunters considered to be the perfect boarhound.

Listen, I owned a Great Dane. They don't have any kind of speed, so I don't know where that's coming from. Maybe the wild boars didn't either. How do you know that, um, how do we know that that's what Scooby was? They've confirmed it. Question three. The topic is cooking. What is the culinary name for the meat that comes from an animal's thymus or pancreas? If you'll remember from our regular episode of Meat Eater, this is the bone that I'm throwing to our guest.

What is the culinary name that comes from the meat on an animal's thymus or pancreas? Struggling, Brody? No, not at all. Pretty quick answers. I'm still living in your head. Rent free, man. Rent free. Very quick answers from most of the room.

But you're supposed to be the waning champion. I know. The draining champion. I love that. The waning champion. That's the funniest thing I've ever heard. Did your kids laugh at that joke? I didn't tell them.

I thought to myself. No, no. He started laughing maniacally in the kitchen. He's even thinking about it when he's making breakfast for his kids. Spencer, what's the question again? What is the culinary name for the meat that comes from an animal's thymus or pancreas?

I was reviewing my schedule and noticed that we had trivia today, and then I immediately started wondering if Brody was going to be there. And I started thinking about how it'd be funny if I said he was the waning champion. And he was so in love with the joke that he couldn't even wait for the game of trivia to come along.

Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve and John saying sweetbreads. Chester saying tenderloin. Brody saying sweetbread. Corinne saying don't have an answer. It's like Ferrari. And Cal saying sweetbreads.

What about Seth? Seth has awfulphel. Ophel, which he spelled like awful. Now, Chester, why in the world? You've cut out how many tenderloins in your life? I couldn't think of anything, so I just wrote down tenderloin. Got it. The correct answer is sweetbread.

It's recommended that sweetbreads are soaked in cold water for about 24 hours to remove any blood. Common preparations include grilling, sauteing, poaching, broiling, and frying. Both glands have a mild mineral flavor, soft texture, and subtle sweetness. Dr. Jonathan Reisman, what is your experience with sweet breads? I've actually never had them before. What? Really? Yeah, I know it's sad. That seems kind of mild on the spectrum of organs. Yeah, like big old organ guy and all that? Big old organ parties?

You never cooked those up? No, that'll be in the future. Immune system dinner, which we haven't done yet. That's a good idea. Would you have any reservations about eating a sweet bread? Is there anything unsafe that someone should consider if they were going to eat that? Absolutely not. I look forward to trying it for the first time.

Oh, they're good. What's your experience, Steve? Lots. I used to have a friend that I lived next door to a guy that had a custom slaughter plant. And so he would just bring them over. And he was missing his thumb. I remember one of the most mesmerizing things was watching,

because you had to peel. You know, you kind of got to peel the outer membrane off him. And how dexterous he'd become over the years. Even though he had no thumb, he could like peel the membrane by grabbing it against like what would be the base of your thumb. And it's hard. But he'd be able to get in there and just peel that shit off. Was his missing thumb related to his ownership of a slaughterhouse? I've told the story, but i'll tell it again when he was young they used to

jack up a truck and use it as a and use the axle to drive a big saw to drive a saw blade he lost his thumb on that and his brother threw it into the hog pen and the hogs ate it whoa unreal uh back to, that's life and death on the farm right there. The Basque corner in Reno has a real good sweetbread dish. So if you're ever going through Reno, look up the Basque corner. So would you have any recommendations for our guests in how he should prepare sweetbread? I don't like them done in like real saucy concoctions. I like them pretty clean and straight up.

Oh, they're good though. Question four. The topic is foraging. This next great question comes to us via Brian Parks. If you have a question you think is right for Meat Eater Trivia, you can send it to trivia at themeateater.com. What edible mushroom goes by nicknames like the molly moocher, dryland fish, and merkle? What? What? What? What edible mushroom goes by nicknames like the Mollymoocher, Dryland Fish, and Merkle?

Seems as though nobody in the room knew this right away. Did you have this? Okay. What? Our guest is quite confident. The nicknames, again, are Mollym Moocher, Dryland Fish, and Merkle. This is an edible mushroom. Very stumped.

This might ruin some perfect games here. Dryland Fish, you say? Yeah. He did say that, Cal. Brody, how do you feel about this one? I just tossed a guess out there. When you were doing your edible plant searching in Central Park, did you guys find any mushrooms? I think we just found the, like, Ganoderma.

What would be the common name for that? It's a shelf mushroom on a tree that has a very dark red shiny surface. Like a red banded polypore? Something like that? I think it's some kind of polypore. Again, the nicknames are Molly Moocher, Dryland Fish, and Merkle. Does everybody have an answer? Son of a bitch. No.

Oh, this pissed me off. Good? No, I'm not good, but I'm done. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying coral, John saying morale, Chester saying lion's mane, Brody saying oyster, Corinne saying oyster, Seth saying lion's mane, and Cal saying shaggy mane. We have a correct answer in the room. It's morale. What?

Most of these nicknames come from foragers in the south. Each one kept getting progressively higher pitched. Most of these nicknames come from foragers in the south and date back to the Civil War. The nickname Molly Moocher is most likely a combination of what women on the battlefield

were called, which was Molly, and the phrase that means to wander slowly, which is mooching. Does that ring any bells now that you've heard it? Hundreds of pounds. I've picked hundreds of pounds. I don't know where else. Where's the dry land fish and the merkle coming from?

Someone right now, type in dry land fish mushroom. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see. Let's just see. I would imagine it's because none of us grew up below the Mason-Dixon line. All right, let's just find out. Okay, what are you typing in?

Tell us specifically. I'm typing dry land fish mushroom. Okay. Don't you think Spencer already did that? He's been caught being wrong before. I have. You got to keep me honest. What are you learning, Steve?

Suspiciously quiet. Try typing in. Steve made a grunt and put his phone down. Question five. The topic is conservation. Conservationist John Chapman was better known by what name? Conservationist John Chapman was better known by what name? Conservationist John Chapman was better known by what name?

Quick answers from, I believe, Seth and Steve. Did Brody write quick? No. Very quick answer from Steve and nobody else. Conservationist John Chapman was better known by what name? Steve, where's your confidence at on this? Extraordinarily high.

Okay. Brody is still thinking. It's going to tie me and Brody up. This is question five. We'll get a scoreboard update from Phil the Engineer after this. John Chapman. Does everybody have an answer? Yeah, buddy.

Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying Johnny Appleseed. John saying Johnny Appleseed. Chester saying Chappy. Brody came up with the Johnny Appleseed grin without an answer. Seth saying Chappy. And Cal saying Johnny Appleseed. Now, what is going on here with the Chappy?

Are you guys doing some kind of weird cheating shit? No. No. Which is wrong. The correct answer is Johnny Appleseed. It just rhymes. If he was my friend, I'd call him Chappie. Johnny Chappass.

Brody, how did you not know it but then know it all of a sudden? I have very powerful, I can reason very well. Do you see it in the reflection? No, I can just like... Off the super cub? The real life Johnny Appleseed was a homestead flipper in the late 1700s and early 1800s. He would claim free plots of land in the Midwest, plant 70 fruit trees on each property,

and then sell the acreages to tardy frontiersmen. Chapman's apples tasted terrible, but they made for great hard cider. For more on the real Johnny Appleseed, go to TheMeatEater.com and read my article called The Boozy History of Johnny Appleseed. Phil, we're halfway through the game of trivia. Give us a scoreboard update. Will do.

With zero points are Corinne Schneider and Seth Morris. With one point, we got Chester holding his lead above Seth. Good work, Chet. Three points apiece. We've got Steven Rinella and our guest, Jonathan Reisman. And in first place, tied up, our Brody Henderson and Ryan Callahan with four points apiece. How far back are you?

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Welcome to the onX Club, y'all. Question six. The topic is biology. What biological term describes the process of a tadpole becoming a frog or a caterpillar becoming a butterfly? What biological term describes the process

of a tadpole becoming a frog or caterpillar becoming a butterfly? Brody got it right. I can tell. Okay. We have a suspiciously slow answer coming from the guest who has doctor in their name.

Do you think you know this one? Not confident. Chester's just tied up in knots here. I know I have heard this in my day. I just cannot. Looking for the biological term that describes the process of a tadpole becoming a frog or caterpillar becoming a butterfly. Seth, you got this one? No.

Okay. I feel like the guy from Winnebago Man, he's like, my mind is a piece of shit today. It's that mercury, man. Oh, yeah, you can always blame that, man. Yeah. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying metamorphosis.

John saying pupation. Chester saying molting. Brody saying metamorphosis. Corinne saying metamorphosis. John saying pupation. Chester saying molting. Brody saying metamorphosis. Corinne saying metamorphosis. Seth saying, tell me what that says, Seth. Morphation. I think you should give it to him. Cal saying metamorphosis.

The correct answer is metamorphosis. That was close. Morphation? Both frogs and butterflies have a force. That's south of the Mason-Dixon line is how they do it. So is he getting it or not? Morphation. I don't think that's the correct answer. No, you don't need to give it to me. I'm not a four stage. That's south of the Mason-Dixon line is how they do it. So is he getting it or not? I don't think that's the correct answer. No, you don't need to give it to me.

I'm not a charity case. Both frogs and butterflies have a four stage metamorphosis. A frog's is egg, tadpole, froglet, and frog. A butterfly's is egg, caterpillar, chrysalis, and butterfly. Other animals that experience metamorphosis include scorpions, salamanders, lobsters, prawns, starfish, sea cucumbers, and jellyfish.

Question 7. The topic is gear. This business, which claims to be America's biggest RV dealer, is known for the obscenely large American flags flown on their lots. That's the question? That's the question, to which nobody has provided an answer. That's inspiring. This business, which claims to be America's biggest RV dealer, is known for the obscenely large American flags flown on their lots. Can't remember the place I bought my camper at. A big flag?

They had a little tiny flag. You're looking for the name. Looking for the name of the business. That sells the RVs. That sells the RVs. This business, which claims to be America's biggest RV dealer. I might have just had a creeper, dude. I might have just had an extrasensory deal come into my brain and give me the answer.

Okay. Unrelated to the homunculus. No, not the homunculus, man. It was like something from outside. Divine intervention. Is this what you're implying? Yeah. Wow.

Almost something like that just happened to me. We witnessed it here today. Like an angel. I think. Again, looking for the business that is America's biggest RV dealer, which is known for the obscenely large American flags flown on their lots. Can anybody picture this place? Yes. I sat there wondering just how big is that flag?

I can give you an answer after this. Does everybody have an answer for this question? I always thought just how much wind it took to get that thing moving. I don't know if the ratio would be the same. It's all drones now anyway. Go ahead and reveal your answers.

We have Steve saying RV World. John saying Winnebago. Chester saying Megaland RV and boat sales. That's what I'd call it. Brody saying Lazy Days. Corinne saying Best American RV. Seth saying RV World. And Cal saying RV America.

He crossed out RV USA and Camping World. The correct answer is Camping World. Nobody got it right. A few people were on the right track. It was the first answer that Cal wrote down which he crossed out.

That would have given Cal a very decisive lead. They're a big deal. They're building one in Billings right now. They also have their own lobbyists. You know what I read the other day, though? RV sales are slowing down, which they say is a sign of recession. Oh, yeah, dude. You don't need to look far to find a sign of a recession. Camping World, like a big player in national park reforms, trying to get internet at campsites,

like buff up the amenities and things like that because that in turn leads to more RV sales or rentals or something. Man, they're not going to like my idea to turn Yellowstone into a wilderness area. Camping World dealerships fly a 40- by 80 foot American flag on their lot, which is 3,200 square feet of red, white, and blue. The Statesville, North Carolina location was sued by the city in 2018 for violating a code that said flags could be no bigger than 25 feet by 40 feet. During the dispute, the company's CEO said he would rather go to jail than take down the flag. Camping World paid $15,000 in fines,

but eventually got the city to change the ordinance and allow them to keep the flag. Love it. At Camping World, these colors don't run. Nope. 3,200 square feet. Who'd make a law on how big your flag is? Question eight.

Next, it'd be like, your heart's too big. Too patriotic. Too much heart. Too much patriotism. Question eight. The topic is cooking. This is our OnX listener question of the week, which was won by Michael Whitlinger. For sending this great question, Michael is going to get a one-year premium subscription to OnX.

If you want a chance to win our listener question of the week, then send it to trivia at themeadeater.com. This is the hardest round. This is the hardest round we've ever had. We have three questions left. What was the Shelby Index? Four. Four. So our winner should get about eight.

She was having a Shelby index. Four, so our winner should get about eight. She was having a hot night. This powder, which is sometimes called pink curing salt, is named after the capital city of the Czech Republic. Very quick answer from Brody, Cal, Steve. Again, the question is, this powder, which is sometimes called pink curing salt, is named after the capital city of the Czech Republic. John, how do you feel about this one? A little too much information on your part, dude.

Like, what the hell? That's why it's kind of like... Yeah, why'd you give so much detail? So you have the specific name. Well, I got everybody getting it right. Chester, you got this one right? Nope. Okay.

You don't want to insult Seth and Chester anymore? You could have been like capital of a European city. Listen, I'd like to... This conjunction is spelled A-N-D. Which conjunction is it? Cal is trying to word something to Chester. He's on the right path.

I'd like to create a game that non-endemic folks listening to this thing to Chester. He's on the right path. I'd like to create a game that non-endemic folks listening to this can still enjoy and play along. It's like the Scooby-Doo question. You may not know what the answer is. You gave too much info out. I ought to cut the end off.

You're assuming the audience is like, what are you trying to say about them? What I'm telling you is I've got a lot of feedback from folks that have significant others who also listen that enjoy the show even though they're not core to hunting fishing yeah but these kind of questions that start game changers spencer like spencer his like lot of feedback kind of stuff his wife yeah no it'll be like yeah like i don't want to do the family feud thing anymore you know so i started sending them letters about to do the family feud thing anymore So I started sending him letters

About how bad the family feud episodes are And he's like Well I've gotten a lot of feedback that says otherwise We can Quantitate this He sends me one that was before the show Does everybody have an answer? You know all this talk

Makes it hard to think Seth we're running out of time Go ahead and reveal your answers I know all this talk makes it hard to think. Seth, we're running out of time. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We've got Steve saying Prague. John saying Prague. Chester without an answer. Oh, no shit.

Brody and Corinne saying Prague. Seth without an answer. Cal, what does that say? Saltpeter. Saltpeter. You thought the capital of the Czech Republic is Saltpeter? No. Maybe Peter. So we had four people get it right and three people get it wrong.

How do you feel about the question now? You gave too much information. Obviously not if four people got it right and three people got it wrong. The correct answer is Prague. Other names for this substance include Instacure and curing powder. It was invented by a European butcher at the beginning of World War I. If you want to learn how to use Prague powder at home, then read Anna Borgman's Wild and Whole article called Everything You Need to Know About Curing Meat on TheMeatEater.com. You know, there's, you know, you got pink salt one and pink salt two.

One's more nitrates and one's more nitrites. And like for like dry, like for slow curing versus sausage making. Is that all in that article? Instacure. That's in there too. Instacure is the same thing. There's Instacure 1

and Instacure 2. Oh, okay. It's all in the article from Anna Borgman. Not to be discussed here. If you're making brasola, you'd use one. Right. If you're making brasola, you'd use one. Right.

If you're making something like hot dogs, you'd use two. Do they both give it that red color? You know when you cure a ham, the meat gets that. I don't know if my guess is yes, but I can't say for sure. That question was so good. It was our OnX listener question of the week. Phil, we have two questions left. Give us a scoreboard update. of the week. Phil, we have two questions left. Give us a scoreboard update.

Yeah, well, unfortunately, we have to say goodbye to Seth, Corinne, and Chester who do not have a chance to come back, but John has four points and is still in the game. We got Steve and Cal tied up with five points, and Brody is in first place with six points.

Son of a buck. Question nine. The topic is hunting. This is a visual question. If you want to see what the room is seeing, then go to Instagram and check out at Spencer Newharth. I'll make it my most recent post. This photo from 1940 shows a celebrity who was an avid outdoorsman. You need to tell me who that celebrity is.

What was the year? 1940. Why are their faces all blurred out? So you knew which person I was referring to. Tell me again what the question is. I don't know celebrities. This photo from 1940 shows a celebrity who was an avid outdoorsman. I know that one.

You need to tell me who that celebrity is. What do you think, Brody? Oh. Easy. What? Chester, do you know this one? No. John, do you know this one?

I agree with easy. Okay. Oh. Oh. Steve. A little rub. A little rub there. But I could end up looking real bad, you know.

Again, looking for who the person in that photo is, it's a celebrity, and the picture was taken in 1940. Cal barely had to look at it. Like he knew it. He knew it. Have you seen the photo before, Cal? No. I didn't look at the photo.

I just looked at the person's photo. Does everybody have an answer? Gosh, this game can be frustrating sometimes. Dude, this is the worst. I hate this. Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying Mickey Mantle.

John saying Babe Ruth. Chester saying John Wayne. How did you get to Mickey Mantle? Brody saying Babe Ruth. That's what I meant. I meant Babe Ruth. Corinne saying Babe Ruth.ester saying John Wayne Brody saying Babe Ruth Corinne saying Babe Ruth Cal saying Babe Ruth George Herman

Ruth which I think was his real name Good on you The correct answer was Babe Ruth Do you accept Mickey Mantle? No I knew that it was Can I see this again? But you know that I knew that it was. I did not accept just a different Yankee. Can I see this again? But you know that I knew.

Thank you. Even you didn't know that you knew. Ruth reportedly loved to hunt and fish during the off-season. This particular photo shows him after a successful hunting trip in New Brunswick where his party killed moose, black bear, whitetail, and turkey. Other pictures of Ruth's hunts show him with gators, geese, pheasants, snapping turtles, and more. And this photo is super impressive. They have some monster critters on there. Yeah, the moose is spectacular, and there's definitely at least one real nice whitetail in there.

I can't believe you somehow plucked baseball out of this though. That's why I should have it. I should be allowed to get it because that's what I meant. Oh yeah. I'd give it to him. We should consult Polar Bear Pete and see what he would say if you

Is it Polar Bear Pete? Polar Pete. Polar Bear Pete. We have one question left, Phil. Who is left in the game? Is it Polar Bear Pete? Polar Pete. Polar Bear Pete. Yeah. We have one question left, Phil. Who is left in the game? Well, with six points, we've got Ryan Callahan. And in first place, the waning champion, seven points.

Unfortunately, Steve, the reigning champion, is no longer in convention. The silent killer. Question 10. The topic is fishing. This last great question comes to us via William Reiki. If you have a question you think is right for MeatEater Trivia, you can send it to trivia at TheMeatEater.com. The Buffalo National River, which became America's first national river in 1972, is located in what southern state? The Buffalo National River, which became America's first national river in 1972,

is located in what southern state? Quick answer from Brody. No. Oh, okay. Quick to writing, not quick to answering. It's a southern state, south of the Mason-Dixon. Southern state. Steve, you going to play along on question 10?

I know what I'm asking right now. Well, you're not going to get credit then on the stat keeping. Is that how defiant you are? I don't actually know it. Again, the Buffalo National River, which became America's first national river in 1972, is located in what southern state? Brody, how do you feel about your answer?

I think a 50-50. And just to reiterate, Phil, only Cal and Brody are left, correct? That is correct, yes. Does everybody have an answer? Yeah. Looking for the state. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying Florida. I was like, for whatever reason, I

feel like it's Arkansas, so I hope you're right. John saying Oklahoma. Chester saying Missouri. Brody saying Arkansas. Corinne saying Tennessee. Seth saying Tennessee and Cal saying Florida. We have a correct answer in the room. It's Arkansas making Brody

our winner with eight correct answers. Aside from that designation, what's the significance of the buffalo? But you know what? He told me he just started taking geriatric vitamins. That's right. That shit kicked in.

I want to continue the learning part of this. Today there are 226 water bodies that make up the National Wild and Scenic River System. These rivers are managed by a number of different states and federal agencies, including the U.S. Forest Service, National Park Service, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, BLM, and Army Corps of Engineers. Cal, I don't know the specifics of the protection. It just grants them more protections on a state and federal level. Here's something real embarrassing. When I was working in

Arkansas earlier this year, I was there twice in two weeks. I met some DNR officers or sorry, state parks officers at the Buffalo River to go fishing one day. And then blew it. And did you go fishing? But I was like, yeah, why is Buffalo, why do I know Buffalo River to go fishing one day.

And then blew it. And did you go fishing? But I was like, yeah, why is Buffalo, why do I know Buffalo River? Did you go fishing? We ended up bailing on the river because it was so low, and we went on our bitchin' bass boat instead. Were you looking for smallmouth there or trout? Smallmouth, yeah. Sounds fun.

What's that geriatric vitamin you're taking? I don't know. It's just some like 50 plus multivitamin. Why you need some? I'll sell you some. Oh yeah, dude. That shit's kicking ass, man. I'm going to start taking that.

If you start taking it now, imagine how smart you'll be when you're 50. With eight correct answers holding true to the Shelby Index. What happens next is he gets to choose where the $500 donation goes. So what's it going to be, Brody? I promised a buddy back east who's a grouse hunter that I would donate to the Rough Grouse Society. What do you like about them besides your buddy being an advocate? Well, those rough grouse are hurting in a lot of eastern states.

So they just need all the help they can get. Ronnie grass are hurting in a lot of eastern states. Yeah. So they just need all the help they can get. Ronnie Bame will like that one too, Steve. Yep. I'm updating you on the score chart here. Well done, Brody. An authoritative victory. Join us next time for more Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. Hey folks, OnX Hunt Canada. It is now at your fingertips, you Canadians. The great features that you love

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