The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 435: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia LVII

Episode Date: April 26, 2023

Spencer Neuharth hosts MeatEater Trivia with Janis Putelis  Clay Newcomb, Danielle Prewett, Jordan Budd, Tyler Jones, Mark Kenyon, Tony Peterson, and Phil Taylor.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And everyone's offended. We've been sitting in the room for a minute, some beers have been opened, and we're ready to play. Now, I'm your host, Spencer Newharth, and today we're joined by Giannis Poutelis, Mark Kenyon, Tony Peterson, Tyler Jones, Clay Newcomb, Jordan Budd, and Seth Morris. Now, Jordan, this is your first time playing Meat Eater Trivia. How do you feel about your chances? A little worried about looking like a dumbass. Okay. But

you spent some time between Idaho and Nebraska, right? I feel like that gives you kind of an advantage. Like, gallivanting around the country, that should maybe help you out, right? Well-traveled? Yeah. It might. I don't know. That's part of the game. We often see in this room that questions from the South folks don't do well with.

It's a good thing that we have Clay and Tyler here to give us some Southern representation. Mm-hmm. And Danielle. And Danielle. Danielle, I just... We forgot. I too often think of you as a North Dakotan. I know that's not fair.

Yeah, that's your... Oh, true. That is your... You just come off really smart, Daniel. That's the club, right? I do really love North Dakota, and I talk about it like I still live there, but I don't. Honorary North Dakotan. Now, this is a 10-round quiz show with questions from Meadeater's four verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking, and there is a prize.

Meadeater will donate $500 to the conservation organization of the winners choosing. And each week here on Trivia, we reveal a new stat. In a previous game, we learned that the average winning score is 7.2 points. But what does it take to get silver or bronze? Well, the average score for sixth place is 3.1 points. For fifth place, it's 3.8. For fourth, it's 4.9. For third, it's 5.7. And for second, it's 6.6. So if you want a spot on the imaginary meat-eater trivia podium, you need to score at least 5.7 points.

Okay. Clay, can you get there this time, you think? Yeah, I'll get there. I don't think you were on the podium last game, though. Well, I had five, so I wasn't on the podium. Right around. I tell you what I do feel good about this round is that Brody

Henderson's not sitting to my left. And we had to twist his arm for him to not play. We just recorded an episode right before this. Brody was not supposed to be on it. He did not like to learn that he wasn't invited to this one. He even said he would stand in the room if there weren't enough seats or microphones for him. Wow. Was he

uninvited after he won the first one or you only had him scheduled for one? He just wasn't on the invite. Because it's a special occasion, we have all the out-of-town folks here. I wanted to use them for the games of trivia. That's why you're not hearing so many raiders. But you invited me twice. Well. That's because we have a special relationship.

That's right, Yanni. We're in a club. We're very special. We're in a club. Apparently, Clay's not invited to. I just looked up. Is it an association or organization dedicated to a particular interest or activity? I don't think you should be offended.

Okay, I'm not offended. You said you were. I mean, it was hyperbolic offense. Okay. Now, here is our zero percenter question of the week we're just gonna move on this test how much our players have retained from a previous game this was from episode 316 the topic was fishing and nobody got this question right what southern state has the most species of fish you don't have to write down an answer you can

just shout it out if you think you know it. Wait, this isn't... This is not part of the game. This is from a previous game. This is a question nobody got right when we played that time. So now I'm going to test to see if anybody... Freshwater? Just species of fish. What southern state has the most species of fish? Florida. Florida.

Florida is incorrect. Georgia. Almost everybody in the room said Florida. Georgia is incorrect as well. Alabama. Texas. Georgia. Almost everybody in the room said Florida. Georgia is incorrect as well. Alabama. Texas. Mississippi. Alabama is right. Wow.

The incorrect answers given were Florida and Louisiana. Alabama is home to 450 species of fish. Some biologists say that one Alabama river alone has more species of fish than the entire state of California. Wow. Now, does this only count native species? No, just species that live there. I think it was 350 were

freshwater and 100 were marine species for Alabama. How many native versus non-native? Florida's got a lot of non-natives in there. Listen, man, you can take it out, but I think it was Encyclopedia Britannica that had this stat.

Do you guys remember when you could get the encyclopedia on CD-ROM? Does anybody remember that? I take it you had that, Mark. I did. See if that helps you this game. I would think that a fellow that had that on CD-ROM, you'd fare better in trivia. Hey. Today.

Mark, I feel like you still have that. It's called Google. They called Mark CD-ROM in high school. Is there a punchline to that? That's it. That's it. We have some housekeeping

to get to. In a previous game, I asked ChatGPT to write me some trivia questions about hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking,

and as we learned, it failed that task miserably. But listener Kyle Abbott emailed me saying that although ChatGPT can host trivia, it might be able to play. So he transcribed 13 games and 134 questions and asked ChatGPT to answer them. Here's how it did. ChatGPT would have won 12 out of 13 games. It had an unprecedented 83% batting average and actually had two perfect games. But it was flawed when it came to hunting.

ChatGPT only got 59% of hunting questions right, which is worse than players like Brody, Tony, Giannis, and Rick. So although robots can own them when it comes to fishing, conservation, and cooking, we've learned that artificial intelligence can't replace a human's knowledge of acquiring meat. Wow, that's big. What that speaks to is that people who write about hunting on the internet aren't doing a very good job of it then. Because chat GPT just scans everything on the internet. That doing a very good job of it then because chat GPT just scans

Everything on the internet is probably not something you should say The media calm you should go there everything you need to know they did you did you hear us on the bear grease render one time? We talked about the the article that was written Where it was calling me mud nukem in my wife foggy nukem what yeah there was an article written by some bot that was sent to us and it was on the internet and it mentioned me and my wife's name like three different times clay and misty nukem it the first time it said clay and misty the second time it said mud and foggy the third time it said dirt and misty. The second time it said mud and foggy. The third time it said dirt and rainy.

That's derivative, man. Yeah, it thought that these were like descriptive words that needed to be changed. So Misty and I started going by mud and foggy.

Let's go. Dirt Newcomb, I hope you do okay this round. Now the Shelby Index for today's game is a four, so our winner should get eight correct answers. And with that, we're on to the game of Trivia Play the Drop, Phil. Look, I need to know what I stand to win.

Everything. How's that? You stand to win everything. Game on, suckers! Question one. The topic is cooking. And as always, this will be multiple choice. Which of these cuts of elk meat costs the most per pound

from elkusa.com? Is it bone-in ribeye, tenderloin, flank steak, or New York strip? Again, which of these cuts of elk meat costs the most per pound from elkusa.com? Your four choices are bone-in ribeye, tenderloin, flank steak, or New York strip? Confident answer from Tony. Tony, you're chewing on some elk meat this year. You're going to get this right. I hope so, buddy.

Danielle, also with a very quick answer. Do you have the right answer? If I'm wrong, it will be a testament to... How much wild game you'd get without buying it, right? No, it'll be the fact that this is a product being sold from a farmed elk, and I'll be very upset about it. That's right.

Does everybody have an answer? Give me the possibilities. Four choices are bone-in ribeye, tenderloin, flank steak, or New York strip. The back of my board says, Seth catches small fish. Is it true? Go watch the Montana Walleye Tour. Yeah. See for yourself. That's great.

Yanni, do you have an answer? Yes, sir. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Danielle saying tenderloin. Jordan saying bone-in ribeye. Tony saying tenderloin. Tyler saying New York strip. Giannis saying tendy. Mark saying tenderloin. Clay sang New York Strip. Giannis sang Tendi.

Mark sang Tenderloin. Clay sang Bone-in Rib-Eye. Seth sang Tenderloin. The correct answer is Tenderloin. They did pretty well. The Tenderloin cost $59.95 per pound. That's followed by the New York strip and bone-in ribeye at $32.95 per pound and flank steak at $24.15 per pound. To purchase an entire elk's worth of meat, which is 172 pounds,

it costs just over $3,000. Wow. Makes you appreciate your wild game a little more. You know, it's interesting. Back in the day when I used to do some bartering with my wild game, before I knew it was illegal to do such things. Wouldn't do it again. Would never. Yep. But I used

to barter for oil changes, ski tunes, and ski lift tickets were a popular thing because very expensive to ski at the ski resorts I used to live at. Roughly back then it was like $125, $150 a day. But I used to say when people Roughly back then it was like 125, 150 a day. But I used to say when people wanted to trade, I'd say, look, my elk, I think it's worth about $2,000.

Really? Yeah, that was the number I gave it. You were close. Yeah, but that was also almost 20 years ago. Well past the statutes of mutations of the law. I bet my first elk cost about $3,000. Yeah, I think there's a lot of elk that get killed where folks pay even more than that. Oh, yeah. Question two, the topic is conservation.

This next great question comes to us via Colin Jovdahl. If you have a question you think is right for MeatEater Trivia, you can send it to trivia at themeateater.com. Name either the state with the most national wildlife refuges or most acres of national wildlife refuges? Name either the state with the most national wildlife refuges or the state with the most acres of national wildlife refuges. Danielle with a quick answer. The rest of the room doesn't look as confident. You got this one, Seth?

No. Clay, what do you think is the closest National Wildlife Refuge to you? Are there any in Arkansas by you? I'm changing my answer. Uh-oh. I'm sorry. Does everybody else have an answer? Because if the answer was what I was about to answer him, it wouldn't have been that one. Spencer.

Thank you, Spencer. I really helped you. Does everybody have an answer? Maybe it was a trick. The answer to your question is the White River National Wildlife Refuge in Arkansas is pretty big. Maybe it's the biggest. Maybe it has all the acres. Yeah, that's what I thought.

Tyler, how are we doing down there? I'm using all the... This is like a game of poker. I'm like looking at Yanni's eyes and thinking about my answer and being like... I feel like Mark should know this. Look at Mark. Yeah. Mark.

I've got a couple ideas on it. I got you two. I got two. The state with the most refuges or the most acres of refuges. Is everybody ready? Tyler? Yeah, I think so. Go ahead and reveal your answers.

We have Danielle saying Minnesota. Jordan saying Montana. Tony saying Alaska. Tyler saying Nebraska. Giannis saying California. Mark saying California. Clay saying Florida. Seth saying California. Clay saying Florida. Seth saying Montana.

The two states are Alaska with the most acres and North Dakota with the most refuges. Wow. Now, Danielle, as the honorary North Dakotan, how did we arrive at Minnesota for the answer? I see kind of a combination of like

water, a lot of refuges in the waterfowl. Because I know they are in the northeast part of North Dakota, but I thought there were more in Minnesota. And then I was also thinking about the waters. North Dakota has the most national wildlife refuges at 64, which is nearly double the number of second place California. Alaska has the most acres and nearly 77 million. Despite all those refuges, North Dakota has less than half a percent of the amount of refuge land that Alaska does. Hey, did you know that Holt Collier has his own National Wildlife Refuge? I did after seeing your post on Instagram.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did a whole podcast on Holt Collier. What's that podcast called, Clay? Well, it's the Bear Grylls podcast, but it was a series we did on Holt Collier, which is an incredible, incredible story. Question three. The topic is hunting. What movie was a Missouri man sentenced to watch after getting busted for poaching hundreds of deer in 2018.

What movie was a Missouri man sentenced to watch after getting busted for poaching hundreds of deer in 2018? Quick answer from Tony and Danielle. Clay looks perplexed. Clay, what's the last movie you watched? The Outlaw Josie Wells I know that one I watch about two movies a year

Do you think the poetry would be sentenced to watch that one? It would have been a good one because The Outlaw you know kind of gets

ostracized by the world and he goes to live with the Comanches you know finds a woman. I mean, there's a lot of good stuff going on there. Again, what movie was a Missouri man sentenced to watch

after getting busted for poaching hundreds of deer in 2018? Tyler, you have an answer? I got one. Yanni, you have an answer. Yes, sir. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Oh, my gosh. We have Danielle saying Bambi.

Jordan saying Bambi. Tony saying Bambi. Tyler saying Bambi. Yannis saying Bambi. Mark saying Escanaba in the Moonlight. I know that's your favorite movie you watch every year before deer opener. Clay saying the Outlaw Josie Wales. Seth saying the Deer Hunter. The room did welllaw Josie Wales. Seth saying the deer hunter.

The room did well. The correct answer is Bambi. Wow. A prosecutor said that David Berry Jr. bragged to friends that he had poached 1,200 deer in Missouri. He was sentenced to spend a year in prison and forced to watch Bambi once per month during that time. Lawyers from both sides called the punishment bizarre,

saying they'd never seen anything quite like it. Mark, what's your favorite line in Escanaba into Moonlight? She had the tongue of a trout. And then he says, your mother had the tongue of a trout. And he watched that movie once a year, right, Mark? Or is it more than that even? No, once a year. The first half of it usually. It gets extra

weird the second half of the movie. It does! It goes from weird to like really weird. Question four. The topic is woodsmanship. This next great question comes to us via our very own Rick Hutton. If you have a question you think is right for MeatEater Trivia, you can send it

to trivia at themeateater.com. Which zipper does FHF gear use to... Quick question, Spencer, have you used one of my questions yet? I don't think so. If I did, though, you wouldn't be here to hear it, Yanni. No, I know. I'm not here a lot, and I'm

asking if you've used one. The hard thing, Yanni, is that I organize my questions in my trivia inbox, and you text them to me, so they tend to get lost. So I'd ask you The hard thing, Yanni, is that I organize my questions in my trivia inbox, and you text them to me. So they tend to get lost. So I'd ask you from now on, Yanni, when you have a great question, I know it's a little more inconvenient, but send it to trivia at themeatdeater.com, just like Rick

and everybody else. So no problem. I didn't know that that was what you wanted. Oh, yeah. I don't like you any less, Yanni, for doing that. I very much appreciate your help. Clay had the same question the other night at Steve's. He says,

Spencer, have you used my question yet? We went back in his text. He sent it to me in August of 2022. I have not used the question yet, but Clay, you can send it to trivia at themeateater.com. If I send in a question, Spencer, I just kind of thought

we were closer than that. A text message, it's hard to organize. Okay. Osha uses this term to describe large broken tree limbs that hang in limbo and could easily fall on people below. Osha uses this term to describe large broken tree limbs that hang in limbo and could easily fall on people below. I'll have you know when Rick submitted

this question, he sent it to trivia at TheMeatEater.com which was very helpful. That's enough. I had a great question texted to him. I can't wait to hear it.

Quick answers from this side of the room. Tony, Jordan, Danielle, do you have this one right, you think? I don't know. I've heard what I think it's called, but I'm not sure if that's just the... That's the appropriate amount of table talk, Tony. Well done. Danielle, do you think

you got this one? I don't know. I'd say the same thing. Do we have any arborists in the room? Rick and I actually learned this together in college. So you got this one right? Oh, yeah. I don't know if I do. I think OSHA complicates it. That does make it tricky. It's like official.

I don't spend much time studying OSHA. Oh. How are we doing that end of the table? I have an answer but I'm only going to show it to you if I have to. You know, I've got a couple of... I had a video banned on TikTok, and I was cutting a tree down. You do a lot of dangerous stuff there on social media, Clay.

Using a saddle, a tree saddle. Like I'd climbed up like 10 foot up and used my tree saddle, and was using a chainsaw. What would OSHA think of that? I thought I was really safe. It did, but TikTok didn't like it. Does everybody have an answer? Were you wearing chaps?

No. Not safe. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Danielle saying Widowmaker. Jordan saying Widowmaker. Tony saying Widowmaker. Tyler saying Widowmaker. Tony saying Widowmaker. Tyler and Giannis and Mark and everybody saying Widowmaker. They got it right.

The correct answer is Widowmaker. Widowmakers are responsible for 11% of fatal chainsaw accidents in the United States. OSHA recommends knocking them down or pulling them down before doing any chainsaw work on a tree. These hazards also kill unsuspecting hunters, hikers, and campers each year. That is an official OSHA term. If you look in their book of hazards, they call it a widowmaker. I've also seen it called a fool's killer though, but that's not what OSHA says. Good question, Rick. Question five. The topic is fishing. What lures infomercial

that aired in the late 90s and early 2000s claimed its erratic action triggered a fish's genetic response to bite? What lures infomercial that aired in the late 90s and early 2000s claimed its erratic action triggered a fish's genetic response to bite? That's a direct quote from the commercial.

Is it triggered the fish's genetic response to bite? Confident room, Yanni. Really? I don't look confident. Very. We have a lot of folks nodding their heads that they got it right. I don't. Did you say erratic action?

Erratic action. Not erotic. Not erotic. Late 90s, early 2000s. That's a different info. You know it, Tyler? That's a different info. I'm pretty sure it is.

Jordan. Different action. Oh, no. No. Oh, man. I've actually caught fish on it. You were quick. Yeah. I bet you have. I even remember the commercial. But Tony's allergic to fish. No. Oh, man. I've actually caught fish on it. You were quick. Yeah.

I bet you have. I even remember the commercial. But Tony's allergic to fish. Yep. Really? No way. We employ multiple people allergic to fish. That's why I just catch them to punish them a little bit for trying to kill me.

What's been your worst experience with the fish allergy? Well, when you figure out you have a fish allergy, especially when you're little and your parents do fish like, fish fries, and you have just, it's been bad. And then they, like, make the French fries in the same oil? Well, no, no, they would feed me fish, and I'd get sick, and they would finally put two and two together, but it does not make me feel good.

You and Chester should hang out. Here's the question one more time for Yanni. What Lures infomercial that aired in the late 90s and early 2000s claimed its erratic action triggered a fish's genetic response to bite? Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Danielle saying lose. Jordan saying flashy spinner. Tony saying banjo minnow.

Tyler saying banjo minnow. Yann what? Tony sang banjo minnow. Tyler sang banjo minnow. Giannis and Mark sang banjo minnow. Clay sang rattle trap. Seth sang husky jerk. The correct answer is banjo minnow. That's what I'm talking about, son. That's good. I was a little worried it was that.

I hope you have it within your follow-up here, but will you explain the form and the shape and how it worked? We can talk about it afterwards. Here's the factoid. The Banjo Minnow is one of the most famous as-seen-on-TV products of all time. The original infomercial that was four minutes long advertised a 110-piece Banjo Minnow kit for $19.95. But wait, if you order right now, they'll actually double the offer and send you a second kit completely free. That's right, the 220-piece banjo minnow kit

could be yours for just $19.95. Unsurprisingly, it made Kubi Brown's list of the eight worst lures ever made, which you can read at themeateater.com. Now the erratic action, maybe Tony can better explain it since he has fished it. I also bought it, Tony. I've never caught a fish on it. I did not like how the lure went through like, or excuse me, the hook went through the eyelids.

You needed a very aggressive fish to engulf that whole thing. Whereas like most spinnerbaits, right? The hook is through the body, not the banjo minnow though. Swim baits. I? The hook is through the body, not the banjo minnow though. Swim baits, I think you'd be closest to. Do you remember that they had the gliding minnow or the banjo glider too?

I don't remember that one. It would hit the water and it would go underneath stuff. Yeah, that's the one I fished that had the weighted hook, right? And it would cause it to go away from you. That thing caught some fish.

But it didn't take, like it didn't do good. We still don't have it. So it was actually- Or you can just skip tons of stuff under. It was the best selling lure in America, I think for like 2005 and 2006 back to back years. And they hit 5 million

sales, I think in 2007. So folks sure bought it and I was one of them. I realized another thing when you were sharing that factoid, that if the trivia thing ever kind of fizzles out for you, you do have the perfect voice and personality for infomercials. Thank you.

Oh, what's the personality bit? Tell me about that. I think we all know him. Okay. Phil, we are halfway through the game of trivia. Give us a scoreboard update. In dead last place with one point, it's Clay Newcomb. Oh, Clay. Clay Newcomb.

Clay, it's so sad to hear that because you're so fun to have around. I know. You're just going downhill, man. I came on strong the first couple of games I played. I thought I was good. Right ahead of him, we've got Seth and Jordan with two points. Tyler, Mark, and

Danielle have three points apiece. Giannis Poutelis has four. And with a perfect game, we've got Tony Peterson with five points. Do you know why this doesn't give me any confidence? The first time I did this, I went five for five, and then I just got smoked. That was when you beat me, Clay. We were at the first light HQ.

I only got one in the second half, and I took second place. Yeah. Still time, Clay. Didn't some of those Cinderella schools and March Madness just come back and almost make it to the championship game? You know what I'm talking about. You're asking the wrong person. I don't do the basketball thing, Clay.

I was thinking about it. Florida Atlantic, San Diego State. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It could be my story. Hey, folks. Exciting news for those who live or hunt in Canada. And boy, my goodness, do we hear from the Canadians whenever we do a raffle or a sweepstakes. And our raffle and sweepstakes law that makes it that they can't join,

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Question six. The topic is tramping. This is our listener question in the week, which was won by Isaiah Tolo for sending this great question. Isaiah is going to get a book signed by Steve. Name one of the four States that trapped the most beavers in 2018. Name one. Is this private trapping or name one of the four states that trapped the most beavers in 2018. Name one. Is this private trapping?

Name one of the four states that trapped the most beavers in 2018. This was from data from the Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies, which I believe is just tracking folks like Seth that are out trapping beavers. Again, name one of the four states that trapped the most beavers in 2018. Seth is the trappingest fellow among us. Do you think you have this one right? I don't know.

I feel like it. I feel like I do, but I'm trying to remember if Steve and I trapped beavers that year. Okay, but that would make a difference. That would make a difference. That's a good answer. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to remember if Steve and I trapped beavers that year. Okay, but that would make a difference? That would make a difference. That's a good answer. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Danielle saying Alaska. Jordan saying Wyoming. Tony saying Alaska. Tyler saying Alaska. Giannis saying Minnesota. Mark saying Pennsylvania. Clay saying Alaska. Tyler saying Alaska. Giannis saying Minnesota. Mark saying Pennsylvania. Clay saying Wisconsin.

Seth saying Montana. The four states are Minnesota, Wisconsin, New York, and Michigan. Oh my god. I almost put Wisconsin. Right. This data is from the Association

of Fish and Wildlife Agencies. According to their report, Minnesotans trapped over 31,000 beavers in 2018. That's followed by Wisconsin, New York, and Michigan at 20,000 and Alabama at 18,000. Some of the states that trapped the fewest beavers included California at 5, Arizona at 35, and Delaware at 88. Now, there were also states at Trap Zero. I didn't include them in this data. I think Alaska would actually be a zero. I don't know that they even have beavers up there.

Oh. What? Surely, right? I will Google it right now. I think they do. They just don't record it, right? I bet they don't have beavers. No, they don't.

I just read a book showing that they have been moving up there. If Steve Rinello were here, he would say. I'm sorry. Beavers are considered to be common and abundant throughout the range in Alaska. I assume that if they were abundant up there, they would have made the list. Hey, do you know what? Did they submit data to this? If Steve Rinello were here, he would say,

I want to get the guy that trapped those five beavers in California on the podcast. Which is weird because it's illegal in California. So I'm guessing those five instances were like one person had a nuisance beaver that they got permission to trap. But surely biologists there trapped more than five beavers. So I don't even know what that five would be made up of. Question seven. The topic is conservation.

What conservation organization merged with the quality deer management association in 2020 to form the National Deer Association what conservation organization merged with the quality deer management association in 2020 to form the National Deer Association. I bet you got this one right, Mark. Sure did, Cliff. I bet I did. I wish you would have asked it the other way, because I know QDMA. Again, what conservation organization merged

with the Quality Deer Management Association in 2020 to form the National Deer Association. I helped them with the merge. Wow. What year was it? He threw him a bone. That's a bone. Talk about a bone.

That's what we call a bone. I didn't know that part. Clay, do you have this one right? I feel fairly confident. I'm in the game. I'm in the game. I'm in the game. Tony looked as confident as Mark. Tony, you got this one right?

I don't think so. Oh, okay. And it really bothers me. Really? Yeah. Jeez, Tony. I'm getting the yips on the second half again, and it's driving me crazy. You jinxed yourself by bringing that up.

So dumb. Man. Disappointing. Does everybody have an answer? Hmm. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Danielle. What's your answer, Danielle?

Danielle sang National Deer Alliance. Jordan sang American Whitetail. Tony sang National Deer Alliance. Tyler sang National Deer Alliance. Yana sang Whitetail. Tony saying National Deer Alliance. Tyler saying National Deer Alliance. Yana saying Whitetail Institute. Mark saying National Deer Alliance. Clay saying Deer Alliance. Seth saying Deer Alliance.

The correct answer is National Deer Alliance. I think if you said Deer Alliance, we'll give it to you. Oh, thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mark said Deer Alliance. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

I'm going to say the Deer Alliance. National Deer Alliance. How many points do Seth and Clay have? Three now for me I'm not even in the game mark If you give it to them they'll each have three points I remember one time Spencer, we'll be tied for last I was involved and present for all the conversations around the naming of all this

and there was very specific debate about should it be Deer Alliance? Should it be National Deer Alliance? It was very important that it was not Deer Alliance. Mark, based on your authority, I think we're not going to give it to them. Let's go. Here's the other part. It kind of doesn't matter.

You guys have two or three points. All you have is just a touch of pride left. It does matter. When you have such just a touch of pride left, it does happen. When you have such a small amount of good things happening. QDMA was formed in 1988. Man, I thought we were bros. And the National Deer Alliance was formed in 2014. One of their big goals is combining powers was to serve all deer and deer hunters

rather than solely focusing on whitetails. Other areas of emphasis for the newly formed group are habitat, access, and disease management. I should point out, I was not involved in deciding that. I was just privy to the information. Question eight. The topic is hunting. This next great question comes to us via Jake Hansen. If you have a question you think is right

for MeatEater Trivia, you can send it to trivia at themeateater.com. Modeled after the federal duck stamp program, Mossy Oak started selling their own stamps in 2022 that benefit this game animal. Modeled after the federal duck stamp program, Mossy Oak started selling their own stamps in 2022 that benefit this game animal. Danielle with a very confident answer. Danielle, do you have this one right? I think so. The whole room actually looks quite confident.

Clay again showing his answer to everybody. I guess it doesn't really matter. I'm just going to put Yeah, there you go. There you go. It went with panda. It's just the animal. Panda.

Panda. Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Danielle saying turkey. Turkey, turkey, turkey, turkey. Everybody said turkey. Everybody got it right. The correct answer was turkey.

Mossy Oak's 2022 stamp collected $20,000 in their first 24 hours it was available. The stamp, which was painted by Dan Morton, cost $15. The brand has dedicated 100% of proceeds to fund wild turkey research, which Dr. Mike Chamberlain will

help advise. Phil, we have two questions left. Give us a scoreboard update. Maybe, hold on. What do you got? Yanni and I were the only one that said wild turkey. Oh. Are we talking pen raised turkeys here? And when you read that, you said

wild turkey. That's a good point. Everybody gets it though. Yeah, Seth is right. Was it Christmas? Go ahead, Phil. Seth, Jordan, and clay are eliminated with three points apiece Tyler Mark and Danielle all have five points Giannis has six and in first place didn't jinx himself too bad it's Tony Peterson with seven points all right the perfect game okay enough with the

white cell okay question nine the topic is foraging Tony how are your foraging You can get the perfect game, but you can still win. Enough with the white-tailed questions, okay? Question nine. The topic is foraging. Tony, how are your foraging skills? Horrible. Okay. Name two of the four mushrooms included in the foolproof four. Ooh.

Name two of the four mushrooms included in the foolproof four. Who does have the foraging chops in this room? Clay, you're kind of a forager, right? Danielle. Oh, I'm sorry, Danielle. I can't see you over here. You're not in my line of vision. How do you feel about getting this one?

I'm in this game, too, you know. You are. Tony, are you going to mess up here? It'd be kind of cool if you did. It's a real possibility, buddy. Okay. Again, name two of the four mushrooms included in the foolproof four.

Yanni, you gonna get this one? There's a good chance. Seth, you gonna get this one? It doesn't matter. Anymore, Spencer? I've upset this side of the table. You know what? If there was anybody that you wanted to lose with, it would be Seth.

Look at this guy. Look, I've got some mushrooms on the back of my board. Everybody take a look at them. It might give you a hint. Is that going to help you? Ah, my hand. Danielle is floundering over here. A lot of pressure, Danielle. Yeah, you really should be the one to just own this

Danielle is the best forger here I know but There's something you said that makes it tricky That there's one that's like Oh it's so easy to identify But there is a species Handing out a lot of hints here Danielle I'm thinking about that same thing Danielle

Go with your gut, though. Go with your gut. You're in too deep. Go with your gut. Are you ready? There's a great podcast on Wired to Hunt where Spencer showcases this very thing. That's right. The Deer Hunter's Guide to Mushrooms.

Well, it feels like Mark has the playbook for this one. Yeah. He should be doing that. And he's still not winning. Yeah. I wrote the book on those mushrooms. Is Mark staying at Spencer's this week? Self-promotion.

No, but I've learned that Tony and Mark are bunking up together. Next time, just ask me. One of you two can stay at my house. Only one of us? Only one? Yes, I will. Then the other one can have their own hotel room. I volunteer Mark for this.

Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Danielle saying Chantrelle and Morel. Jordan saying Morel and White. Tony saying Hen of the Woods and Puffballs. Tyler saying Morel and Lion's Mane. Giannis saying Morel and Chantrelle. Mark saying Morels and Chantrelles. Clay saying Wild Morels Wild or national chanterelles

Seth saying morels and chicken of the woods The four mushrooms are morels, chanterelles, puffballs, and chicken of the woods Tony slipped up Hen of the woods is not one of them. These four mushrooms are considered to be mushrooms that are good for beginners because they can be identified with a high level of confidence.

Some of them made Hayden Samick's list of the six beginner-friendly mushrooms you can find in summer, which you can read on TheMeatEater.com. Phil, we have one question left. Give us a scoreboard update. We've got Tony and Giannis now tied up in first place with seven points, but Mark and Danielle can technically slide in if Giannis or Tony slip up.

Okay. Danielle, you were right there last time. Tony, you were right there last time. See if we can go to a tiebreaker here. Question 10. The topic is wildlife. Who are you rooting for, See if we can go to a tiebreaker here. Question 10. The topic is wildlife. Who are you rooting for, Spencer? I'm rooting for a tiebreaker.

I'm rooting for a tiebreaker. Foraging, I count that in the cooking category. Our first question was about cuts of elk meat, so we've had two cooking questions, Danielle. You said foraging, not cooking. I know. So who's possible to win here? Giannis and who?

And Tony. Tony. And Mark and Danielle. Question 10. The topic is wildlife. This state lists the grizzly as its state mammal, even though one hasn't been documented there since the 1920s. This state lists the grizzly as its state mammal,

even though one hasn't been documented there since the 1920s. I'm kind of bummed there's not a gear question. We've had gear questions in the past. It's not one of our four pillars, but often these will fall into the gear category like the banjo minnow. Giannis got right. Jordan did not, though.

Does everybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answer. It's a confident room. We have Danielle saying California, California, California. Everybody said California. Wow. Everybody got it right. The correct answer was California.

Questions that the whole room gets right. We've learned before in a previous stat that it happens about 10% of the time, but I think we've had it three times this game. Three times today. We are going to a tiebreaker. Play the drop. Oh, boy. Well, here's the thing.

Steve said he didn't love the drop before, so I made a new one kind of as a joke, hoping Steve would be here to hear it. He's not, but I'm going to play it anyway. Tiebreaker. If you ain't first, you're last. I think just cut it at, if you ain't first, you're last, and then go into other stuff that's funny. I never liked it.

Hey, Phil, f*** off, man. Very good. You know what? I trust Steve. He was right. That one did sound better, what you just did there. So who is in our tie-breaking round? We have, is it Tony and Giannis?

Everybody can play along. Oh, now here's something that I've thought about. Somebody emailed us suggesting a new rule for tie-breakers that's sort of a one-tie, all-tie. Here's what it is. During the tie-breaking question, if somebody who is not tied for first place gets the answer right on the nose, we will declare them the winner.

What do you guys think about that? Yeah. Let's do it. Let's do it. So the tie-breaking question, Clay. Interesting. The answer is among the group. Those that are not playing.

Let me explain to Clay here what's going on. This sounds like a great rule. The tie-breaking question is a numerical question. Whoever is closest to the correct answer will be declared our winner, but this new wrinkle

would allow the person who is not in first place to win the game if they got it right on the nose. This is like buying a gas station lottery ticket. You have to have

had a good attitude. I've had a great attitude. Okay, just making sure. Tony and Yanni, how do you guys feel about this? Well, as long as anybody that decides to

give an answer that aren't in the tiebreaker now, if I get it on the nose, I'm allowed to chop off any one of their fingers that I choose. What is this rule? Steve would hate that. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm all in. It makes it more fun to me

Let's try it If we all hate it at the end We'll never do this again I think it's important to state That this is practically impossible Because you have them Round to the nearest Like tenth of a decimal point

Sometimes the answers Are like thousand Like if you're saying What's the altitude Of this mountain And it's like No one's gonna get that right That's right

For some of us This means a lot Mark's a hiker So again We are down to Giannis and Tony, but everybody can play along. See if you can hit it dead nuts. Here is the tie-breaking question. The topic is hunting.

This tie-breaker question came to us via Nick Watkins. Oh, I know him. He's my best friend. According to a 2022 paper in the Wildlife Society Bulletin, how many states have eastern wild turkeys? According to a 2022 paper in the Wildlife Society Bulletin, how many states have eastern wild turkeys? Oh, eastern wild turkeys. Oh, shoot. I'm very excited.

It's a little more doable than the altitude of a mountain. That's right. Sometimes the answer would be like $800.15. Nobody's going to win it then. This one is a real possibility. Clay, are you listing out the states for all to see? Nope. Just making hash marks.

Okay. Which is also for all to see. His board is down on the table. I for all to see. Nope, just making hash marks. Okay. Which is also for all to see. His board is down on the table. I'm up to 15. That's pretty generous, Clay. According to a 2022 paper in the Wildlife Society Bulletin, how many states have eastern wild turkeys? Tony, you are a pretty well-traveled turkey hunter.

How many states do you think you've killed turkeys in? It doesn't have to be easterns. How many states have you killed a turkey in? Maybe like 10. Giannis, how about you? What would be your answer? Yeah, I'm probably right in that same range. That's a good question for you two.

How do you feel about your answer? I feel like I overshot it. Okay. But not by a ton. Mm-hmm Yanni, what are you thinking? How am I feeling about my answer? I haven't written one down yet Now do they have to get the closest? The closest between those two? Between those two. But if we get it right I mean, will you give us like five minutes? To like really count?

Clay, I think you need this because I don't think Meat Eater's given you enough love yet. I think it's time for you to shine a little. I will take this from you as quick as I can. I think it's about time

we give Clay some love here at Meat Eater. Let's make this guy feel special for once, huh? Should we? Go Arkansas! Yeah, there we go.

Yanni, how we doing down there? Do you have an answer? Do you want me to write? Does Tony have an answer? All right. I think everybody has an answer. I got an answer. Mark, do you have an answer?

I'm working on it still, but yeah, I guess. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Danielle. I don't want to show my. Let's see your answers. We have Danielle. I don't want to show my... Let's see your answers. Okay. Danielle sang 14. Jordan sang 31.

Tyler sang 38. Clay sang 19. Seth sang 37. Mark sang 27. And our two competitors left. Giannis sang 37. Tony sang 34. That's saying 37. Tony saying 34. I'll tell you this.

Somebody hit it right on the nose. Our winner is Tyler, the correct answer. 38. What a game. Tyler, I think you're now two for two in playing media trivia. Both games came down to the tiebreaker. I'm sorry, Yanni and Tony. You guys' answers were dang near right on.

Tony, or Yanni, you said 37. Tyler knows now. He knows right now. He's thinking about it, how he kind of robbed me of my win. I am. He's going to have to live with that for at least five minutes. I have an idea, though. Oh, you want another one?

I want to give you the opportunity for the donation. As a reminder, we had Giannis, who said 37, who was in the tiebreaker, and Tyler. How many points did Tyler even have in this game?

Tyler had six at the end of the game. Okay. Did you know that, or did you guess? I counted states, and I figured I was close. Really? I figured I was within maybe four, you know?

Tyler, where is the $500 donation from Meat Eater going to go? Go ahead. It'll be a long time probably since you're back here. I'll have to be back here tomorrow. He'll make sure of it. That's right. You know, I did it last time, but I ran a committee for Ducks Unlimited. So I'd like to, in specific, the Sulphur Springs, Texas Ducks Unlimited branch.

And you used to be a part of that branch, right? Or you helped find it? So I was a committee chairman or whatever for the Emory branch. It was a really small branch where I live, but I worked with Sulphur Springs a bunch. Well done, Tyler. Giannis, Tony, you made a good effort, but in a meat eater first, somebody who wasn't in first place at the tiebreaker

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