The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 469: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia LXXIII
Episode Date: August 16, 2023Janis Putelis hosts MeatEater Trivia with Spencer Neuharth, Brody Henderson, Randall Williams, Tressa Croaker, Rick Hutton, Hanzi Deschermeier, and Max Barta. Connect with MeatEater on Instagram, F...acebook, Twitter, and Youtube Shop Trivia MerchSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins.
I'm your guest host, Giannis Patelis, a.k.a. the Latvian Eagle,
or as my lovely wife recently dubbed me after a long day at a North Carolina beach, the Latvian Lobster.
I ate a lot of aloe that night.
Today, we're joined by Brody Henderson, Randall Williams, Hansi
Deschermeyer, Max Barta,
Tressa Croker, Rick Hutton, and
Spencer Newharth.
Spencer, this is your first time
answering me either questions,
media trivia questions. How does it
feel to be on the playing side of the game
and how do you think you'll
stack up against these players?
I'm nervous.
You should be.
Far more nervous than if I was sitting in your chair.
Because you've gotten comfortable hosting.
Yeah.
I feel uncomfortable about not knowing what's next.
I like with the script.
I know what the next question is going to be.
You're a control freak.
That's right.
I have a pretty good idea in my head about the route that the game is going to take
and like, oh, I think this will be a tough one.
This is one people will do well with.
This is kind of a toss-up between three choices.
I don't like the unknown.
You don't like the mystery in life, huh?
Not in this case.
Probably. I think Randall is on to something.
That was only a joke.
I really didn't mean it.
Well, we'll see.
You didn't expect all these follow, we'll see. Such a nerve there.
You didn't expect all these follow-up questions.
Neither did I. I hope so bad that Spencer gets a question he wants to argue about.
He's like, no.
We'll see.
As far as how I think I'll do, I don't know.
I would say I'm, I would bet I'm not in the tier that like Brody, Randall, and Steve are.
I would say I'm not in that tier.
Probably a full tier below them, which makes me think I'll maybe get like five today.
I don't know.
If our winner gets seven or eight, maybe I'll get like four or five.
Well, the Jennifer Index for today is three.
I know we saved that until later, but since you just brought up what you think your score is,
I'll tell you that the Jennifer Index was three.
I hope I can get the Jennifer index then. Oh. That would make
me happy. You'll get that. I got
a couple bones for everybody in
this one. Because my goal
is just to do a good enough job
today that if this happens again
where you're like, man, I'd really like to play
again, or I'm out next week,
can you guess, host, that you'll
be like, oh, Yanni did a good enough job last time
that I'll ask him to do it again.
It'll be fun.
So if you're not familiar, this is a 10 round quiz show with questions from meat eaters for verticals, hunting, fishing, conservation and cooking.
And there's a prize.
Meat eater will donate $500 to the conservation organization of the winner's choosing.
Now, to clarify, I'm not trying to take Spencer's job.
I wanted to guest host for two reasons.
First, so that Spencer could get to enjoy playing trivia,
and I thought that because I thought it'd be fun to host,
especially if I could come up with questions
that would irritate Steve and Brody.
Now, Steve found out that I was hosting
and figured he'd be so irritated,
he decided to stay in Alaska an extra week.
So he's not even here today.
So Brody, it's all up to you to give me immediate feedback on my questions and hosting ability.
It's going to feel a lot different arguing with you than Spencer though.
I'm not sure how it's going to work out.
Yeah, it's like a substitute teacher is here.
I get treated like a teacher who just gave homework on like the week of Christmas break.
I feel like that's the in high school you'd be a smartass
you'd have certain teachers
you'd call them by their first name
I don't know if I can do that with Giannis
like with you I can treat you like that
I feel like you can take advantage
of Giannis too
so are we intimidated by the substitute teacher
I don't know where I'm at with it
we can steamroll this guy?
Because you don't know what you're getting when you get a sub.
You could get a real hard ass or a dude who just doesn't care.
Sure.
So I don't know what I'm getting yet.
Yeah, I mean, my go-to, if I get in a tough place,
I'm just going to say F off.
The next question is...
That's a good strategy.
All right, before we start playing,
we're going to cover our zero percenter.
And this week,
the question is,
oh, sorry.
The zero percenter of the question of the week is,
it tests how much knowledge players have retained from previous games.
This question was from episode 414.
The topic was trapping,
and you guessed it,
nobody got it right.
Name one of the three states that have a bobcat population over 200,000.
Florida.
Correct.
Anybody else?
There's two others.
Texas.
Correct.
Wow.
We've retained some information.
I wasn't there.
There's one other.
Who can name the third?
Alabama.
Georgia.
Louisiana.
Georgia.
Good job.
The incorrect answers that were given were
Nebraska, California, Arizona,
and New Mexico. Brody played
that game, so did Yanni. Yeah, I remember being
very surprised by all the southern
states. Although
we all know that there's a shitload of them
in Florida and Texas. There's a shitload
of everything in Texas, which has kind of become my
go-to guess for a lot of these types of questions.
Oh, that's smart.
On to some housekeeping.
In a previous game of trivia, we talked
about New Hampshire's Mount Washington
and its extreme weather.
This prompted someone in the room to ask
about the mountain's elevation, to which
Brody said it was about...
Do you remember? Did I say 5K?
3,000 feet. That's what I said.
You wish you would have said 5K.
This guy probably wouldn't have written in.
Well, a number of listeners wrote in to point out that Brody wasn't even half right.
Mount Washington's elevation is 6,288 feet, making it the tallest mountain in New England.
People were big angry about that, Brody.
Can't get everything right, Giannis.
All right, so if you didn't hear me earlier,
the Jennifer Index for today's game is a three,
so our winner should get six correct answers.
And with that, we're on to the game of trivia,
Play the Drop Fill.
Look, the lights are great.
You're doing great.
I stand to win everything.
How's that?
Just tend to win everything. How's that? You stand to win everything.
Game on, suckers!
Yanni, did you explain who Jennifer is?
No.
I've answered her already twice in today's episode.
No, I did say my lovely wife,
but maybe I didn't say my lovely wife Jennifer earlier.
Jennifer is my lovely wife.
And she played on the spouses episode
that we had about a year ago.
That's right.
That would have been a nice tidbit for me to add in there.
I thought about calling Shelby
and running all of them by her
to keep on with the Shelby index.
Yeah, I like this.
I like what you got going on.
But yeah, Jennifer played in bits.
She's so busy right now because her summer season is busy.
She's running around a lot.
So I'd catch her for like three questions and then she'd come back, get another couple.
All right.
The first question today is in hunting.
It's multiple choices always.
The pad of a mountain lion has how many lobes?
One, two, three, or four?
Throwing a bone to yourself there.
I see.
I see.
No fast answers so far.
Yeah, well, I thought I had to sort of, you know,
personalize it a little bit this episode.
I talk about this stuff enough with all of my,
not all, but a lot of my colleagues,
because I'm always asking for people to find
mountain lion tracks for me and Mingus to trail.
So I thought you guys might know it.
This is how you help them identify.
You tell them you got to look for something with this many pads.
I actually have a little album that has some pictures of tracks, pads, stride lengths, little diagrams.
All right.
That's enough information.
You've sent me that before.
I see.
Does everybody have an answer?
Yeah.
Yes? Okay.
Go ahead and reveal your answers.
Brody going with
one. Tressa, four.
Rick, four. Randall, three. Hansi,
four. Max, two. Spencer, three.
We have a correct answer in the room.
It is three.
This is a common way to distinguish a lion track
from similarly sized tracks
like those made by domestic dogs and coyotes,
which only have two lobes in the pad.
A canine track will also be symmetrical
and it'll have nails in it.
Felines tracks are asymmetrical.
Draw one.
Is this you arguing or
to improve the show?
Okay.
Brody handed his board to Yanni
and he said, Yanni, draw one.
It was pretty stern.
See, I always thought
you could identify a mountain lion by
drawing an X in the print in the snow.
Is that not accurate?
So you're talking these jobbies on the line.
Those are the lobes of the pad.
Oh, I thought you were talking about the actual pad itself.
That's why I said one.
Because I thought this whole thing was the lobe.
I still wouldn't have got it, but...
You thought what whole thing was the lobe?
This part. Oh, yeah, that's the
pad. Right. And then it has three
lobes.
That's a good question. Feline's tracks are
asymmetrical. They have a leading toe on
the inside of the foot. So, if you find
a track with three lobes in the pad
lacking indents from nails, and
the second toe from the left is leading
the others, you're most likely looking at a track
made by the right foot of a cat.
If it's about four inches wide
and near Bozeman, Montana
on public land this winter,
shoot me a DM on Instagram
at Giannis underscore Botelis
and Mingus and I will come to try and track it.
Was Tress's thing correct
about you drawing X in the snow?
Had you heard that?
I've heard that about all cats, right?
I've heard that for canines, though.
Yeah.
The canine is the X.
Exactly, because it is symmetrical.
Yeah, if you can't draw an X through it, it's a cat.
That's correct.
So I've been looking at the wrong thing.
On to question two, which is conservation.
What state capital is the highest above sea level.
Nobody with a quick answer.
Hansi's writing.
That's a great question.
Spencer's drawing more than writing.
That's just what my handwriting looks like.
Now, I think if Steve were here, he would say, conservation?
I'll let you point that out. You wouldn't say that, though.
No, no.
I like the geography questions.
Like I said, I'm not strong at them
when they go to the eastern side of the country.
But, you know,
I actually had to cut out geography questions
because I had too many.
You got this one, Randall?
The room is still thinking.
I mean, maybe.
I'm trying to decide if my answer is a capital
or just a city.
Same.
There's a couple I can think of that would be strong contenders.
Uh-huh.
This would be a great bar trivia question.
Not to say that it's not a good meat eater trivia question.
Brody is still thinking.
Spencer, do you have an answer?
I have an answer.
Oh, okay.
I think we're just waiting on Brody.
And Max.
Put the state down.
I feel like you need a little timer here.
I'm going to have a lot of ideas about how to make this game better.
This is going to be the guy who is probably the most consistently past the time.
I know.
Listen, when we played that game at home called, it's the tile game with the numbers.
Scrabble?
No, numbers.
Bananagrams?
Bananagrams?
No, numbers.
Can't believe somebody could trademark that game.
And you yell the thing when you only have one tile left.
Uno.
Uno.
Go fish.
Tile.
Tile.
Rummy cube.
Romeo, rummy cube.
But there explicitly says you only have two minutes,
and we always start the timer.
All right.
Now we're looking for the capital, right?
Not the state?
Correct.
We're listening to the capital. right not the state correct we're listening
to the capital oh dang what state what state capital what state capital and you're hey that's
tricky because when i first wrote the question i said which state's capital and in that case
you would have answered the state but uh the answer is a city.
I don't know how tricky
that is.
Tricky?
Which state's
capital versus which state capital?
I don't know.
I don't think it's that tricky. I think we're ready now. I think we're good.
Let's just...
We're already going Salt Lake City.
I'll have to get out of the office.
What?
I'll have to get out of the office.
There's a gas light.
I was right.
Oh, you bought it?
Are you kidding me?
I knew there was a gas light.
My first ever.
Listen, we're not.
I smell it when you get out of the store.
We can't.
Okay, I'm going to cut into the Phil cam to just say we're not re-recording this because
we can't. The questions have been asked. So we'll come cam to just say we're not re-recording this because we can't.
The questions have been asked.
So we'll come back later and finish the episode.
Can we do this one real quick to see what happened?
As long as the room is comfortable with this.
Sure.
Tressa, Denver.
Rick, Helena, Montana.
Randall, Denver.
Hansi, Denver.
Max, Denver.
Spencer, Denver.
We do not have a correct answer in the room.
Santa Fe, New Mexico.
That was my next guess.
Okay, we'll be back after the gas leak.
Stay tuned.
Oh, my goodness.
We were right.
That was like two hours ago.
Sabotage.
I just wanted to do it one time so that Spencer would get to enjoy the thrill.
Are you enjoying yourself?
Are we recording, Phil?
We're recording.
I am enjoying it.
The gas leak was a nice touch, Yanni.
I'd never considered having an emergency interruption before in a show,
but you pulled it off.
I suggested a kitchen fire, but he went with a gas leak.
It was good.
It worked out well for you two because it turned into a beer break.
Other people just decided to have a cold sparkling beverage with no alcohol.
Or check your emails.
Or check emails.
I got a phone call in.
But anyways, let's get back to trivia.
The last question was, what state capital is the highest above sea level?
Unfortunately, nobody got it wrong.
Santa Fe is the answer at 7,199 feet.
It sits in the Sangre de Cristo Mountains,
which also hold the state's highest point,
Wheeler Peak, coming in at 13,161 feet.
The next highest state capitals are
Cheyenne, Wyoming, at 6,086,
Denver at 5,276, Carson City, Nevada at 6,086. Denver at 5,276.
Carson City, Nevada at 4,682.
And rounding out the top five is Salt Lake City at 4,265.
Very interesting.
Very good.
Cheyenne, great question.
Thank you.
If I were going to redo that question
Right
And I was
If I was trying to make
A stronger tie
Yeah
To the meat eater universe
I would say something like
In your factoid
You'd like
Nestled in the
San Bonita mountains
Or whatever
This is the highest
State capital in America
And then it'd be like
A public lands tie
So it was right there
I'd like
It was a good question though
Wheeler Peak
In the adjacent
blank National Forest.
You guys are being hard on Giannis.
I agree.
I appreciate the feedback.
That's when Giannis says,
question three.
That's right.
Question three, cooking.
This is the thin,
tacky, lacquer-like
layer that forms on fish flesh after it has been brined and then dried, giving smoke something to adhere to.
Brody with a quick answer, as I expected with this question.
That's my bone.
Yes.
Yeah.
Well, you being a meat eater trivia master, there's going to be a couple in here for you but
yeah
gotta have it if you want that's right fish yeah that's right
again the question is this is the thin tack lacquer-like layer that forms on fish flesh
after it has been brined and then dried, giving smoke something to adhere to.
A couple more answers coming in slowly.
Tressa and Rick still thinking.
How are you doing down there, Randall?
Not happy.
My worst fear coming into this
was that it'd be like a 10 for 10 for everybody.
That's not the case.
Dude, the questions were so easy.
I don't know this answer,
but I know Steve provided it in the past
as an incorrect answer to a different question. I don't think that answer, but I know Steve provided it in the past as an incorrect answer to a different question.
I don't think that's the right answer.
That was my initial answer.
I don't think it's the right answer.
Maybe I'll write it down anyway.
Oh, you think you know what I'm referring to?
Yeah.
Enough chit-chat there, boys.
Moving on.
Helped Randall.
I just don't think it's...
What do you think, Spencer?
I know.
You don't know the game's new ship that has to go on.
I didn't think he'd have that recollection.
Go ahead and reveal your answers.
I beat Steve on that question.
Brody with pellicle.
Tressa, no answer.
Rick, an A.
Randall, myoglobin.
Hansi, pellicle.
Max, silverskin.
Spencer, rind.
We have a correct question.
It is pellicle. Max Silverskin, Spencer Rind. We have a correct question. It is Pelicle.
Correct answer.
Thanks.
The Pelicle is formed when proteins from the meat bond
as they dry on the outside of the fish.
The Pelicle also helps to seal in moisture.
It is a crucial step in smoking fish
and any meat for that matter.
If you want to try smoking fish
and making your own Pelicle,
check out Wade Chuang's recipe
for smoked catfish at
themeateater.com. So is the pellicle
composed of those proteins?
Correct. Are those myoglobin
proteins? I do not...
You know what's interesting about this question
is I can tell you that there is
not a lot, besides
what I've told you on the internet,
exactly about the chemical process of creating pellicle.
Y'all surprised.
Krista wanted me to Instagram famous chefs and stuff.
I'm like, bro, I don't have enough time for that.
So we're going to go with what I found.
Good way to get it is run a fan over that stuff.
That's right.
We're on to question four hunting based on sales data from federal ammunition what is the most popular bullet
weight in 30 caliber bullets so i'm looking for a weight.
So this is in loaded.
Correct.
Federal, okay.
So cartridges, not... Well, loaded cartridges, what they sell.
We're looking for a weight.
Bullet weights from federal.
The answer is in bullet weight, but yeah, what they sell in cartridges.
Gotcha.
Brody, quick answer.
Spencer's got an answer.
So this is the grain, right?
Yes.
Okay.
See, I'm not a big rifle guy.
It's interesting.
It ain't pounds, Max.
I know.
You were quick, Brody.
You think you have this one right?
Man I shot a.30 caliber for a long time
Yeah, I hope so
But I don't know
There's a lot of different weights out there
There's for a lot of different things
The Federal only loads certain bullets
They have their own bullets as well
Well, I'm not going to say it
Because there's one.
Yeah.
I put down a shock and wait.
It's going to be incorrect, Max.
I'm joking.
I didn't.
Does everybody have an answer?
No, not yet.
Hold on.
I'm still, I'm between three.
You got five seconds.
Come on, Rick.
You're a gun guy.
Well, yeah.
Do you have a favorite question today, Ani, in your batch?
Yes, I do. Okay. I do. You should alert us. I saved it a gun guy. Well, yeah. Do you have a favorite question today, Ani, in your batch? Yes, I do.
Okay.
You should alert us.
I saved it for the end.
There you go.
It's a tough one.
I mean, yeah.
But we're all going to learn something.
Mm-hmm.
Again, based on sales data from Federal Ammunition,
what is the most popular bullet weight in.30 caliber bullets?
I might change my answer.
I was going to say, bro.
Uh-oh.
Very good question, Giannis.
You like it?
It's a good thinker.
It is.
Makes you think about it, yeah.
No, I'm not going to change it.
Fine.
No.
Let's go.
Okay, let's just do it.
Reveal your answers.
Brody, 180.
Tress, 0.09 grains.
Rick, 150. Randall, 165. Hansi, 165. Max, 140.
And Spencer, 150 grains.
We do have correct answers in the room.
It is 150 grains.
Nice job, guys.
Those dang 30-30s.
No, Brody, it's the.308.
Whatever.
I guarantee it's.308.
Correct. I asked Brian
Kelvington from Federal, and he replied
to me that the rifle team went
through recent database on a five-year
average, and surprisingly,
it is the.150 grain bullet
being driven by the.30-30
and. 308.
180 grain is second
and then 165.
I would have guessed 180 grain
myself. 100%.
Wasn't even close. If you'd like to know more about the
30-30, check out Jordan Siller's
Caliber Battle article, 30-30
win versus 350 legend
at TheMeatEater.com.
Well done, Yanni. Really liked that done, Yanni. Yeah, really like that
question, Yannis. Thanks.
Thanks, guys. You guys are really making me
feel good. I'm still waiting for my bone.
Well, I didn't
know who exactly was going to be
on the show, Max.
When we decided to do this.
Alright, on to question
five.
It's fishing. I'm going to tell you how to tie a specific knot,
and I need you to tell me what knot it is.
Pass the working end of the line through the eye of the hook.
Wrap it five times around the standing line.
Pass it through the first loop between the hook and the first wrap.
Pull the working end and the standing line to tighten the knot.
Clip the tag in and you're finished.
What is the name of this knot?
This would have been a good one for the kids episode.
I told you I had a bone for everybody, Brody.
Max is thinking still.
Oh, you got an answer written down.
Okay, does everybody have an answer?
Hansi?
Oh, I think there's...
Read it again.
I want to hear it again.
I'm going to tell you how to tie a specific knot.
Tell me what the knot is.
Pass the working end of the line through the eye of the hook.
Wrap it five times around the standing line. Pass it through the first loop between the hook and the first is. Pass the working end of the line through the eye of the hook. Wrap it five times around the standing line. Pass it
through the first loop between the hook and the first wrap.
Pull the working end and the
standing line to tighten the knot.
Clip the tag end, and you're
done. What's the name of the knot?
Go ahead and reveal your answers.
This is like a reading
comprehension quiz. Brody,
Clinch, Tress side, fisherman's knot,
Rick clinch, Randall clinch,
Hansi improved fisherman's,
Max improved clinch,
fisherman's knot from Spencer.
I messed up.
The answer is clinch knot.
I would have also accepted cinch.
I am unsure if this knot
is ever called a fisherman's i think it's a
similar knot but i feel like it stopped one step short yeah becoming a fisherman's knot i think
the fishermen's i think the fishermen's is the improved clinch and make one more
so unfortunately max we're not going to be able to give it to you phil can you give me a half point it's a negative uh the
clinch knot is a foundational knot tied by millions of anglers worldwide also referred to as the cinch
it's probably the easiest and fastest knot to tie it's strong although you may experience slippage
with braided lines that's why you use the improved clinch for you gotta use uni uni for braid or the improved clinch
right that was uh question number five so phil can you give us a score update please
yeah love to okay we've got max and tressa yet to make it on the board of zero points hansi has
one point and then it's a tight game. We got Brody, Randall,
Rick, and Spencer
all tied up
with two points apiece.
I thought I was out of it.
Yeah.
Now I gotta concentrate.
Yeah, I think
there was a bunch of you
that thought you were out of it,
but with two,
you are still in it.
I'm feeling a little bit bad
for making tough questions now.
Hard-ass substitute teacher.
Yep.
Throw me a bone.
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Question number six is hunting.
Sarcocystis found in dabbling ducks is a disease more commonly known as what?
Max, if this ain't a bone for you, I don't know what is.
Oh, my goodness.
Sarcosistis, found in dabbling ducks, is a disease more commonly known as what?
Hansi, also a water fowler,
and I would hope that it would have been a bone for you
as well.
I got a bone to pick with you, Jonas. Oh, boy.
Did I mispronounce it? Nope.
We'll get there.
I knew this would
happen. It's part of playing
the game, isn't it? You knew what would happen?
That there would be a bone to pick.
I made it all the way to
question six before the first bone to pick came about. Axe to grind a bone to pick. I made it all the way to question six
before the first bone to pick came about.
Axe to grind, bone to pick.
I'll be excited to witness this.
I hope you thoroughly pick it, Brody.
I'm just going to sit here and enjoy
whatever goes down.
Did you find any in the ducks we killed
last December?
This seems like it.
You can't tell me that.
Max is digging.
You can't.
You can't.
No.
Did you find any what?
Well, let me tell you.
Oh.
Yep.
The space that I have on right now,
I've seen Spencer make many a time.
You're like, shut up.
No, when it's like, I can't give away anything from my face around what they're trying to ask of me. No facial expressions. Poker face. Yeah.
Is everybody ready to reveal their answers? Randall's not confident. Oh I don't have an
answer. Oh. I don't have an answer. Okay. I don't have an answer. Probably not going to get it.
Would you like a little more time, Randall?
No, that's fine.
You can go ahead.
Go ahead and reveal your answers.
Brody with rice breast.
Tressa, no answer.
Rick, bird flu.
Randall, no answer.
Hansi, avian flu.
Max, rice breast.
Spencer, rice breast.
The correct answer is rice breast.
Nice.
There you go, Max.
The parasitic infection is called sarcosystis.
The infection does not affect the duck.
There are no signs of infection other than the visible cysts.
The duck or other prey animal is the intermediate host,
and predators like skunks, coyotes, foxes are the primary.
When the predator eats an infected duck, the cysts open up,
mate, and produce microscopic eggs eggs which are pooped out.
The duck accidentally ingests the eggs, usually at water sources.
The eggs hatch, the larvae find their way to major muscles of the duck, and form the rice-shaped cyst.
Freezing or cooking meat will kill the parasite, but most hunters discard infected meat.
To see a photo of rice breast, go to my my Instagram, Giannis underscore Patelis, and look
at the post from December 31st,
2022.
Brody? It's not real bad.
I'm just
wondering whether it should be called a disease
or not. Oh.
Or a parasite, you know what I mean?
Did any of the ducks that you and Max
killed, did they have Rice Breast?
They did.
Okay.
What did you guys do with them?
I put them away, and then I ended up just cooking them and feeding them to Mingus.
What did Mingus think?
Any feedback?
Gobbled it right up.
That was good.
We're on to question seven, which is conservation.
And this great question comes to us via Logan Landman.
If you have a question you think is right for meat eater trivia, you can send it to trivia at the meat eater.com.
For his question,
Logan is going to receive,
what can I throw him?
Spencer?
He's going to get a book signed by Steve.
All right,
there you go,
Logan.
Eventually when the board game is out,
people are going to get a board game that's signed by us. All right. There you go, Logan. Eventually, when the board game is out, people are going to get
a board game
that's signed by us.
But until then,
they get books
signed by Steve.
I love it.
The question is,
what tree species
dominated American forests
and almost went extinct
in the early 20th century
due to disease?
What was the topic?
Again, conservation.
I think that fits.
100% fits.
In there?
100%.
Rick, quick answer.
Randall, quick answer.
Rick, you're a forestry...
Major.
Major, yeah.
So was this an easy question for you?
Yeah, I feel like it. Maybe I'll get slapped and have it question for you? Yeah, I feel like it.
Maybe I'll get slapped and have it gotten wrong,
but yeah, I feel like I'm good.
When did you say it almost blinked out?
1920.
Early 20th century.
Got the 20 part right.
Again, what tree species dominated American forests
and almost went extinct in the early 20th century due to disease?
Good point, Brody.
Stop.
Yeah, I think I can give you that.
I'm going to split it in half and tell you that it is the eastern half of the United States.
Didn't change his answer.
Please reveal your answers if everybody has one.
Brody goes with American Elm, Tressa Oak, Rick, American Chestnut, Randall Elm, Hansi Elm, Max, American Elm, Spencer Chestnut.
The correct answer is the American Chestnut. The correct answer is
the American Chestnut.
I like my ally.
Good one, because I thought that was in the
50s when that happened.
Is there any wiggle room?
What's the disease? Could the disease
affect Elm and about knock
them out? Boy, there are a lot of folks that thought
it was Elm.
I think the problem with me was
Dutch Elm disease was later in the century, I think.
It was not far behind.
Dutch Elm disease was early 20th would have been American Chestnut, Dutch Elm, depending on the state and what part.
Because it hit like the East Coast, different than the upper Midwest, which would have been like later, like mid 20th century.
How far apart are we talking, Rick? I was going to say. We're talking about pre-1950. which would have been like later like mid early mid to late you can break it
into that do we have any extinct trees in like the United States the American
chest I think is the one that's the closest to be very close I mean in the
biggest there's a couple of big ones I think the biggest ones still could be
wrong about this true field treesula trees. Would be in
Tennessee. What?
Truffula trees. The Lorax.
The Lorax?
Oh, man.
You guys have kids?
Yeah, the biggest, yeah.
Chestnut blight was brought to the U.S.
in 1904 through the
introduction of Japanese
chestnut trees to the Bronx Zoo.
Within 40 years, the nearly 4 billion strong American chestnut population in North America
was devastated and only a few clumps of trees remained in Michigan, Wisconsin, and the Pacific
Northwest.
It is estimated that in some places such as the Appalachian Mountains, one in every four
hardwoods was an American chestnut.
Pretty amazing to think
that that went down.
On to question eight, hunting.
And this is your second geography question
for the day.
What Canadian province
sits between Maine
and the Gulf of St. Lawrence?
Again, the question is,
what Canadian province sits between Maine and the Gulf of St. Lawrence?
Brody, how are you feeling about this one?
So-so.
Spencer?
I feel okay, or I might be really embarrassed.
You could tell me this is on the other side of the continent,
but I think I've got a good shot at it.
Researching this question,
I was surprised how many provinces
old Canada has.
This is hunting?
See, I just feel like all geography
is always related to hunting.
Or conservation.
In my mind.
Or conservation.
I agree.
Honestly, I like it.
Rick, you're being a great cheerleader.
Oh, good. Well, everyone, you know, Brody's is beating him Rick, you're being a great cheerleader. Oh, good.
Well, everyone, you know, Brody's is beating him up, so I got to cheer him on.
Well, Rick still has that glow about him from the chestnut question.
That's true.
Yeah, that was my bone.
Rick has a dewy look in his eye right now.
Giannis came in here thinking everyone was going to get every question right.
I think I have two questions right.
That's brutal. No, I think you do. Br think I have two questions right. That's brutal.
No, I think you're brutal.
Brutal.
Brutal.
Does everyone have an answer?
Go ahead and reveal your answers.
Brody with Quebec, Tressa Alberta, Rick Newfoundland, Randall Newfoundland,
Hansi Newfoundland, Max Newfoundland, Spencer with Nova Scotia.
We do not have a correct answer in the room.
The answer is New Brunswick.
Brunswick stew?
New Brunswick is one of the three maritime provinces,
the other two being Prince Edward Island and Nova Scotia.
Spencer, you're probably the closest.
It is bordered by Quebec to the north,
Nova Scotia to the east,
Gulf of St. Lawrence to the northeast,
and Bay of Fundy to the southeast.
Hunting opportunities include moose, bear,
whitetail deer, turkey, as well as waterfowl.
I was quite surprised to hear
that they pretty much have the gamut.
Look at us ignorant Americans.
No idea.
Phil, that was question eight,
so that brings us up to another score update, please.
Not much has changed. That's correct, we have to say goodbye
to Tressa, Max
and Hansi
technically Randall is still in the game
with two points
we've got Brody and Rick with three
and Spencer Newharth
is in first place with four points
I don't like this position.
So you aren't far away, though, from your...
You know, and I forgot to mention up top,
I should have had it in the intro,
is that you guys will just have to trust Spencer and myself
that I did not, did not let him read this script whatsoever.
No, because he'd have like seven right.
I'd be whooping you guys.
Spencer's smarter than that.
No, he would play and be like, well, they all have two. he'd have like seven right if i'd be whooping you guys spencer's smarter than that no he's gonna if i were cheating if i were cheating i'd make sure that i was two questions ahead with two
questions left that's exactly how i do it well then you know i'm not cheating it's only one ahead
left oh sorry i'm just thinking of you relative to me okayuck in my own mind. This is my favorite question of the day here of the game.
It is cooking.
And I'm going to be just extremely impressed if anyone can get this one,
because I would not have gotten it.
When butchering an animal,
what is the process of removing the trachea and esophagus called?
Can I leave?
No answers.
No scribbling.
Brody at least looks like he's thinking that there might be something in there.
Again, when butchering an animal,
what is the process of removing the trachea and esophagus called?
Max has gone to checking Google on his phone.
No, I'm working right here.
I'm working right here. I'm kidding.
It's just my favorite because I was just so excited to learn about this last week.
Oh, when you did your sheep?
Correct.
So if you attended Yanni's butcher school, you would know this one?
You would.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Okay. It would be interesting to see if any
of those children or
the adults there retained
that information that I gave them.
Alright, everybody that does have an answer
or is going to have one, you guys ready?
Max, that's good.
Go ahead and reveal your answers.
Brody's going with plum.
Tressa, no answer.
Rick, roadhousing it.
Randall, neckotomy.
Hansi, tracheotomy.
Max, dethroting.
Spencer, throatbotomy.
I like Hansi's answer.
Yeah, that's definitely the closest.
The answer is weasending.
Wow. answer yeah um that's definitely the closest the answer is weasending wow webster's dictionary defines weasened as throat gullet also trachea removing the trachea and esophagus is thus
weasending i learned this the other day from meat eater contributor anna borgman after she
weasended a domestic ewe that i used for a field dressing demonstration at an outdoor skills camp
held at the jack creek preserve awesome location staff. For more info on their camps and other
activities, check out jackcreekpreserve.org. And for more great information on butchering and
cooking wild animals, check out Anna's contributions to the Mediator website. I especially like her
article, How to Clean and Cook Liver. Anyone that reads
this article will have the confidence to pack
out a liver this fall and turn it
into something tasty. You can also
find Anna talking about butchering on
Instagram at Anna
Borgman. B-O-R-G-M-A-N.
I really like following her on
Instagram. Love Anna's content. She's great.
Are you guys happy that you now know
the word weasened and weasending?
I can't wait to do some
weasening this fall. I was going to tell you
I already forgot it by the time you even got here.
I'd be a lot happier if I'd known it
five minutes ago. I thought that
someone might say, well, why would you
weasen, right?
Giannis, why would you?
Well, the esophagus, right, can have a lot of bacteria in there because of the food that's
still sitting there, right? And so the way she did it, she basically cut the throat and was able
to access that, pulled the esophagus out, tied a knot in it and sort of reamed it as though you
were going to ream the anus preparing to field dress it, right? And then when later, when I
gutted it and was and i just
pulled you know i grabbed it and the esophagus trachea and pulled the heart and everything out
it also came right on out of the animal now anna has creative uses for like every bit of awful
in a critter is there anything that she can do with the esophagus and trachea i don't know
i haven't heard about it.
Hey, Spencer, your head's full of stats.
What's the lowest score to ever win this game?
We've had, I think it was like the second or third episode,
we had a four.
We've had a few fives and sixes,
but for like the last year,
I try to keep it above six.
Hear that, Giannis?
Yes, yes.
Well, it seems like that's going to be the biggest feedback.
Phil, can you give us another
score update with one
question left? Yeah,
it is down to Spencer, Rick, and Brody.
Spencer still has his four
and Rick and Brody have three points.
Come back.
I believe we're going to have some
correct answers to this one. It's going to get interesting.
I think you might be a little too optimistic.
Question 10 is hunting.
In the 1972 movie Jeremiah Johnson,
Jeremiah finds a frozen mountain man.
The mountain man had written a note,
which is now frozen to his chest.
Quote,
I, Yannis Patelis, being of sound mind and broke legs,
do leaveth my bear rifle to whatever finds it.
Later he added, it is a good rifle and kilt the bear that kilt me.
Anyway, I am dead. Yours truly.
What is this mountain man's name? You know this one, Brody? Uh-oh.
I think I do.
Rick Nealon.
I'm not going to say anything.
Randall.
Steve's going to be real mad at you if you don't.
Yeah.
I'm a little surprised, Randall, because you're kind of a movie guy too, right?
I don't know that I'm a movie guy.
Do you know what Randall's been working on lately?
No.
A book about mountain men.
No, no.
You might have to tell me later, but this is a fictional mountain man.
Not yet.
Even though he's famous, he's fictional.
If I think about this for a while, I think I could come up with it.
Like 30 seconds or 30 hours?
Oh, no.
I'm just not working at it because I've already lost
and I'm a sore loser.
It's going to delight me when I hear
the right answer, though. I don't have this one, right?
I knew it. I knew it. So we're going to overtime,
I think. I mean, look, I could be
way
overconfident and end up looking like a jackass.
I knew. i was confident
in rick's answer you already lost uh please reveal your answers brody hatchet jack oh
tracino answer rick hatchet jack randall no answer hansi george jack max question mark spencer herman the correct answer is hatchet jack later in the movie jeremiah
runs into dell jew and dell asks of the rifle ain't that hatchet jack's rifle jeremiah responds
yep dell asks how did you get it jeremiah says found him frozen to a tree dell adds damn hatchet
jack was a wild one he was living two years up in a cave
on the mussel shell with a female
panther. She never did get
used to him.
So, do we have a
winner, Phil? Are we going to overtime? We're going to a
three-way tie, Giannis. Oh my goodness!
To Brody, Rick, and Spencer.
Tie breaker!
You ain't first, you're last!
Tremendous. I think just cut it at, if you ain't first you're last tremendous I think just cut it at
if you ain't first
you're last
and then like
go into other stuff
that's funny
I never liked it
hey Phil
f*** off man
it never gets old
never
do people like
do we know this
is this a stat
we've come up with
do people like
when episodes go
to tiebreakers
absolutely
mostly I think
well
one it makes it a little more entertaining.
Two, a lot of folks play within a group, like their family or their coworkers or whatever,
and they'll often end in a tie and then have no way to break that tie.
So it's been requested that I have a tiebreaker every episode for that instance.
I can't come up with that many good numerical tiebreakers,
so they're just going to have to settle for having tiebreakers
when we have tiebreakers.
What did you do for the game?
You just like a block of tiebreaker cards?
There are 50 cards that are tiebreaker cards
that are just like ours where they are numerical.
This question is probably going to have to do something with geography.
Or hunting, as we like to call it.
I just think it's a good tiebreaker
because I don't have a backup tiebreaker question.
So hopefully we won't have our first.
Another gas leak.
So it's three-way with Rick, Spencer, and Brody.
Is that correct?
Correct.
All right.
But everybody should play along.
Yes.
The extra money thing still going on?
Extra $100 donation if somebody gets it dead nuts.
All right.
And I believe you possibly could.
This great question was given to me by MeatEater Managing Editor Jordan Sillers.
A grain is an obscure unit of measurement still used to weigh bullets and powder charges.
How many grains are in one pound?
Sorry, I don't have this question on the slide.
So you just have to look at this lovely logo
that Hunter Spencer created.
Love that logo, Hunter.
Okay.
Again, the question is,
a grain is an obscure unit of measurement still used to weigh bullets and powder charges.
How many grains are in one pound?
Brody really wants to win.
Oh, Brody.
No, I just don't want to look like a fool.
Mm-hmm.
You don't have to worry about that because I have that handled.
Oh, I've got a way of figuring this one out.
A squared plus B squared equals C squared.
None.
When I asked this question to a group of botanists the other day,
somehow somebody knew how many grains there were in another measurement
and thus got to the
correct answer.
I don't know.
Nobody's super confident.
The bummer is I knew this at one point.
I remember reading
it and knowing and like talking
to people about it and it was so long ago that
I...
Maybe I got close, but
it's a tough one.
Grain is so obscure.
Yeah, you never... And you don't compare it to
like...
No, wait. You said one pound, right?
Correct. How many grains
are in one pound?
Which is 16 ounces.
That's correct.
Easy.
I'd like to win this, Max.
Do you feel confident, Spencer?
Mm-mm.
No.
Am I close?
Well, I don't know.
I have no idea if I'm close.
Rick, you got an answer.
Spencer's got an answer.
Brody, do you have your final answer?
I'm more worried about Rick than Brody.
Sure.
All right, folks, go ahead and reveal your answers for the tiebreaker.
Tressa coming in at 2,037.
Randall, 7,800.
Hansi, 3,000.
Max, 2,700.
Brody, 1,600.
Rick, 700.
Spencer, 2,700. Brody, 1,600. Rick, 700. Spencer, 2,001.
The correct answer is 7,000,
making Spencer the winner.
Yes.
Nice work on your clue.
Nice job.
Thank you.
It's washed over me now.
I'm no longer nervous.
You shouldn't be.
Now I feel like I can enjoy it
after recording for 40 minutes. Up until now,
Yanni, I was almost not enjoying it.
This is great. We might
have to go have a celebratory beer
after this together because I survived
hosting the first episode. You
somehow come in and win. You know what?
Winning is fun. This is more
fun. I
enjoyed winning more than I did
hosting. Despite Randall trying to sabotage the whole game
by loosening a pipe somewhere in the building.
At this point, you might have to,
the rest of the crew just want to invite me back
just so that I can give you a loss
so that you know what it feels like
to be on both sides of the coin.
Maybe, Rick, if I was you,
I'd have said I forgot one zero.
I was like, man, I was one zero off.
The 700 in my mind, so I was just one zero off from beating you. I just tried, I just said, I forgot one zero. I was just like, man, I was one zero off. Yeah. I, the 700 in my mind.
So I was just one zero off from beating you.
I just tried.
Or no, we would have tied.
No.
Yeah.
We would have beaten you.
Damn it.
Damn it.
I know you were actually the closest.
Yeah.
And I started, I, my first guess was 7,200.
I was going off of how many, uh, I've got a, uh, 300 wind mag load of H1000.
And I was thinking of how many cases I can fill up with a pound of powder.
Ah, there you go.
Well, you got close.
Encyclopedia Britannica explains that a grain
is one of the earliest units of common measure and the smallest.
The ancient grain was defined as the weight of a designated number
of dry wheat kernels taken from the middle of the ear.
It was also used as the original basis for the medieval English inch,
which was defined as the length of three medium-sized barley corns
placed end to end.
That's all a bit confusing, so I checked Webster's too,
and they say a unit of weight based on the weight of a grain of wheat
taken as an average of the weight of grains from the middle of the ear.
So I hope that that is as clear as mud
if you're wondering how the weight of a grain came about.
Thank you all for playing.
Join us next time for more meat.
You're forgetting something there.
What am I?
$500 donation.
Oh, that's right.
His moment of glory.
Were you prepared for this?
You know what?
I've thought about this in case somebody, when we were playing in my head.
Just threw it to you.
Right.
They'd be like, Spencer, you always host.
You never get to choose.
So, you know, I'm going to let you give the donation this time.
It hasn't happened, Brody, but I've expected it to.
It's too late now.
I think one of the organizations I benefited from the most in my lifetime is Pheasants Forever.
I'm not a huge pheasant hunter, but growing up in South Dakota, I was surrounded by CRP and CREP, which people call CREP.
Most folks think of it as like a singular upland hunting area.
It's not the case.
It also makes phenomenal habitat for big whitetail bucks that I like to hunt.
A lot of them have water in it.
They're great for duck hunting.
So we're going to do pheasants forever.
Nice.
Duck nesting too.
That's right.
All sorts of benefits.
Everybody loves CRP.
I mean, come on.
That's right.
All right.
So 500 bucks to pheasants forever.
Nice.
A little tip.
Obviously, you know that these were hard questions.
And this is good for our listeners too who like to write in.
The number one feedback I would have to them is their questions are too hard people like to write
in and ask like what is the highest mountain in tennessee or uh things like that that are very
obscure um and it's hard for somebody to come to to getting the right answer unless they were like
very local to this thing sure um so that So that's a tip for our listeners.
Make them a little bit easier.
And it's easier for me to then make them harder
than it is for me to create a good question
out of something that's already super difficult.
Way to go, Spencer.
Nice job.
Thank you, bro.
Thank you for letting me host.
Thank you, Yanni.
We'll do it again.
It was super fun.
Thank you.
Yanni says a little work to do,
but you did great. I think you did fine, Yanni. We'll do it again. It was super fun. Yannis has a little work to do, but you did great.
I think you did fine, Yannis.
Don't let Brody bring you down.
Please join us next time for more Meat Eater
Trivia, the only game show where
conservation always wins.
Yay!
Thanks, Max.
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