The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 469: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia LXXIII

Episode Date: August 16, 2023

Janis Putelis hosts MeatEater Trivia with Spencer Neuharth, Brody Henderson, Randall Williams, Tressa Croaker, Rick Hutton, Hanzi Deschermeier, and Max Barta. Connect with MeatEater on Instagram, F...acebook, Twitter, and Youtube Shop Trivia MerchSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey folks, exciting news for those who live or hunt in Canada. You might not be able to join our raffles and sweepstakes and all that because of raffle and sweepstakes law, but hear this. OnX Hunt is now in Canada. It is now at your fingertips, you Canadians. The great features that you love in OnX are available for your hunts this season. Now the Hunt app is a fully functioning GPS with hunting maps that include public and crown land, hunting zones, aerial imagery, 24K topo maps, waypoints and tracking. You can even use offline maps to see where you are
Starting point is 00:00:37 without cell phone service as a special offer. You can get a free three months to try out OnX if you visit onxmaps.com slash meat. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your guest host, Giannis Patelis, a.k.a. the Latvian Eagle, or as my lovely wife recently dubbed me after a long day at a North Carolina beach, the Latvian Lobster. I ate a lot of aloe that night. Today, we're joined by Brody Henderson, Randall Williams, Hansi
Starting point is 00:01:25 Deschermeyer, Max Barta, Tressa Croker, Rick Hutton, and Spencer Newharth. Spencer, this is your first time answering me either questions, media trivia questions. How does it feel to be on the playing side of the game and how do you think you'll
Starting point is 00:01:41 stack up against these players? I'm nervous. You should be. Far more nervous than if I was sitting in your chair. Because you've gotten comfortable hosting. Yeah. I feel uncomfortable about not knowing what's next. I like with the script.
Starting point is 00:01:57 I know what the next question is going to be. You're a control freak. That's right. I have a pretty good idea in my head about the route that the game is going to take and like, oh, I think this will be a tough one. This is one people will do well with. This is kind of a toss-up between three choices. I don't like the unknown.
Starting point is 00:02:14 You don't like the mystery in life, huh? Not in this case. Probably. I think Randall is on to something. That was only a joke. I really didn't mean it. Well, we'll see. You didn't expect all these follow, we'll see. Such a nerve there. You didn't expect all these follow-up questions.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Neither did I. I hope so bad that Spencer gets a question he wants to argue about. He's like, no. We'll see. As far as how I think I'll do, I don't know. I would say I'm, I would bet I'm not in the tier that like Brody, Randall, and Steve are. I would say I'm not in that tier. Probably a full tier below them, which makes me think I'll maybe get like five today. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:50 If our winner gets seven or eight, maybe I'll get like four or five. Well, the Jennifer Index for today is three. I know we saved that until later, but since you just brought up what you think your score is, I'll tell you that the Jennifer Index was three. I hope I can get the Jennifer index then. Oh. That would make me happy. You'll get that. I got a couple bones for everybody in this one. Because my goal
Starting point is 00:03:12 is just to do a good enough job today that if this happens again where you're like, man, I'd really like to play again, or I'm out next week, can you guess, host, that you'll be like, oh, Yanni did a good enough job last time that I'll ask him to do it again. It'll be fun.
Starting point is 00:03:27 So if you're not familiar, this is a 10 round quiz show with questions from meat eaters for verticals, hunting, fishing, conservation and cooking. And there's a prize. Meat eater will donate $500 to the conservation organization of the winner's choosing. Now, to clarify, I'm not trying to take Spencer's job. I wanted to guest host for two reasons. First, so that Spencer could get to enjoy playing trivia, and I thought that because I thought it'd be fun to host, especially if I could come up with questions
Starting point is 00:03:57 that would irritate Steve and Brody. Now, Steve found out that I was hosting and figured he'd be so irritated, he decided to stay in Alaska an extra week. So he's not even here today. So Brody, it's all up to you to give me immediate feedback on my questions and hosting ability. It's going to feel a lot different arguing with you than Spencer though. I'm not sure how it's going to work out.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Yeah, it's like a substitute teacher is here. I get treated like a teacher who just gave homework on like the week of Christmas break. I feel like that's the in high school you'd be a smartass you'd have certain teachers you'd call them by their first name I don't know if I can do that with Giannis like with you I can treat you like that I feel like you can take advantage
Starting point is 00:04:39 of Giannis too so are we intimidated by the substitute teacher I don't know where I'm at with it we can steamroll this guy? Because you don't know what you're getting when you get a sub. You could get a real hard ass or a dude who just doesn't care. Sure. So I don't know what I'm getting yet.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yeah, I mean, my go-to, if I get in a tough place, I'm just going to say F off. The next question is... That's a good strategy. All right, before we start playing, we're going to cover our zero percenter. And this week, the question is,
Starting point is 00:05:08 oh, sorry. The zero percenter of the question of the week is, it tests how much knowledge players have retained from previous games. This question was from episode 414. The topic was trapping, and you guessed it, nobody got it right. Name one of the three states that have a bobcat population over 200,000.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Florida. Correct. Anybody else? There's two others. Texas. Correct. Wow. We've retained some information.
Starting point is 00:05:38 I wasn't there. There's one other. Who can name the third? Alabama. Georgia. Louisiana. Georgia. Good job.
Starting point is 00:05:43 The incorrect answers that were given were Nebraska, California, Arizona, and New Mexico. Brody played that game, so did Yanni. Yeah, I remember being very surprised by all the southern states. Although we all know that there's a shitload of them in Florida and Texas. There's a shitload
Starting point is 00:05:59 of everything in Texas, which has kind of become my go-to guess for a lot of these types of questions. Oh, that's smart. On to some housekeeping. In a previous game of trivia, we talked about New Hampshire's Mount Washington and its extreme weather. This prompted someone in the room to ask
Starting point is 00:06:16 about the mountain's elevation, to which Brody said it was about... Do you remember? Did I say 5K? 3,000 feet. That's what I said. You wish you would have said 5K. This guy probably wouldn't have written in. Well, a number of listeners wrote in to point out that Brody wasn't even half right. Mount Washington's elevation is 6,288 feet, making it the tallest mountain in New England.
Starting point is 00:06:39 People were big angry about that, Brody. Can't get everything right, Giannis. All right, so if you didn't hear me earlier, the Jennifer Index for today's game is a three, so our winner should get six correct answers. And with that, we're on to the game of trivia, Play the Drop Fill. Look, the lights are great.
Starting point is 00:07:00 You're doing great. I stand to win everything. How's that? Just tend to win everything. How's that? You stand to win everything. Game on, suckers! Yanni, did you explain who Jennifer is? No. I've answered her already twice in today's episode.
Starting point is 00:07:23 No, I did say my lovely wife, but maybe I didn't say my lovely wife Jennifer earlier. Jennifer is my lovely wife. And she played on the spouses episode that we had about a year ago. That's right. That would have been a nice tidbit for me to add in there. I thought about calling Shelby
Starting point is 00:07:40 and running all of them by her to keep on with the Shelby index. Yeah, I like this. I like what you got going on. But yeah, Jennifer played in bits. She's so busy right now because her summer season is busy. She's running around a lot. So I'd catch her for like three questions and then she'd come back, get another couple.
Starting point is 00:07:57 All right. The first question today is in hunting. It's multiple choices always. The pad of a mountain lion has how many lobes? One, two, three, or four? Throwing a bone to yourself there. I see. I see.
Starting point is 00:08:19 No fast answers so far. Yeah, well, I thought I had to sort of, you know, personalize it a little bit this episode. I talk about this stuff enough with all of my, not all, but a lot of my colleagues, because I'm always asking for people to find mountain lion tracks for me and Mingus to trail. So I thought you guys might know it.
Starting point is 00:08:46 This is how you help them identify. You tell them you got to look for something with this many pads. I actually have a little album that has some pictures of tracks, pads, stride lengths, little diagrams. All right. That's enough information. You've sent me that before. I see. Does everybody have an answer?
Starting point is 00:09:11 Yeah. Yes? Okay. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Brody going with one. Tressa, four. Rick, four. Randall, three. Hansi, four. Max, two. Spencer, three. We have a correct answer in the room.
Starting point is 00:09:27 It is three. This is a common way to distinguish a lion track from similarly sized tracks like those made by domestic dogs and coyotes, which only have two lobes in the pad. A canine track will also be symmetrical and it'll have nails in it. Felines tracks are asymmetrical.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Draw one. Is this you arguing or to improve the show? Okay. Brody handed his board to Yanni and he said, Yanni, draw one. It was pretty stern. See, I always thought
Starting point is 00:10:01 you could identify a mountain lion by drawing an X in the print in the snow. Is that not accurate? So you're talking these jobbies on the line. Those are the lobes of the pad. Oh, I thought you were talking about the actual pad itself. That's why I said one. Because I thought this whole thing was the lobe.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I still wouldn't have got it, but... You thought what whole thing was the lobe? This part. Oh, yeah, that's the pad. Right. And then it has three lobes. That's a good question. Feline's tracks are asymmetrical. They have a leading toe on the inside of the foot. So, if you find
Starting point is 00:10:38 a track with three lobes in the pad lacking indents from nails, and the second toe from the left is leading the others, you're most likely looking at a track made by the right foot of a cat. If it's about four inches wide and near Bozeman, Montana on public land this winter,
Starting point is 00:10:52 shoot me a DM on Instagram at Giannis underscore Botelis and Mingus and I will come to try and track it. Was Tress's thing correct about you drawing X in the snow? Had you heard that? I've heard that about all cats, right? I've heard that for canines, though.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Yeah. The canine is the X. Exactly, because it is symmetrical. Yeah, if you can't draw an X through it, it's a cat. That's correct. So I've been looking at the wrong thing. On to question two, which is conservation. What state capital is the highest above sea level.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Nobody with a quick answer. Hansi's writing. That's a great question. Spencer's drawing more than writing. That's just what my handwriting looks like. Now, I think if Steve were here, he would say, conservation? I'll let you point that out. You wouldn't say that, though. No, no.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I like the geography questions. Like I said, I'm not strong at them when they go to the eastern side of the country. But, you know, I actually had to cut out geography questions because I had too many. You got this one, Randall? The room is still thinking.
Starting point is 00:12:17 I mean, maybe. I'm trying to decide if my answer is a capital or just a city. Same. There's a couple I can think of that would be strong contenders. Uh-huh. This would be a great bar trivia question. Not to say that it's not a good meat eater trivia question.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Brody is still thinking. Spencer, do you have an answer? I have an answer. Oh, okay. I think we're just waiting on Brody. And Max. Put the state down. I feel like you need a little timer here.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I'm going to have a lot of ideas about how to make this game better. This is going to be the guy who is probably the most consistently past the time. I know. Listen, when we played that game at home called, it's the tile game with the numbers. Scrabble? No, numbers. Bananagrams? Bananagrams?
Starting point is 00:13:20 No, numbers. Can't believe somebody could trademark that game. And you yell the thing when you only have one tile left. Uno. Uno. Go fish. Tile. Tile.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Rummy cube. Romeo, rummy cube. But there explicitly says you only have two minutes, and we always start the timer. All right. Now we're looking for the capital, right? Not the state? Correct.
Starting point is 00:13:44 We're listening to the capital. right not the state correct we're listening to the capital oh dang what state what state capital what state capital and you're hey that's tricky because when i first wrote the question i said which state's capital and in that case you would have answered the state but uh the answer is a city. I don't know how tricky that is. Tricky? Which state's
Starting point is 00:14:13 capital versus which state capital? I don't know. I don't think it's that tricky. I think we're ready now. I think we're good. Let's just... We're already going Salt Lake City. I'll have to get out of the office. What? I'll have to get out of the office.
Starting point is 00:14:29 There's a gas light. I was right. Oh, you bought it? Are you kidding me? I knew there was a gas light. My first ever. Listen, we're not. I smell it when you get out of the store.
Starting point is 00:14:39 We can't. Okay, I'm going to cut into the Phil cam to just say we're not re-recording this because we can't. The questions have been asked. So we'll come cam to just say we're not re-recording this because we can't. The questions have been asked. So we'll come back later and finish the episode. Can we do this one real quick to see what happened? As long as the room is comfortable with this. Sure.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Tressa, Denver. Rick, Helena, Montana. Randall, Denver. Hansi, Denver. Max, Denver. Spencer, Denver. We do not have a correct answer in the room. Santa Fe, New Mexico.
Starting point is 00:15:08 That was my next guess. Okay, we'll be back after the gas leak. Stay tuned. Oh, my goodness. We were right. That was like two hours ago. Sabotage. I just wanted to do it one time so that Spencer would get to enjoy the thrill.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Are you enjoying yourself? Are we recording, Phil? We're recording. I am enjoying it. The gas leak was a nice touch, Yanni. I'd never considered having an emergency interruption before in a show, but you pulled it off. I suggested a kitchen fire, but he went with a gas leak.
Starting point is 00:15:42 It was good. It worked out well for you two because it turned into a beer break. Other people just decided to have a cold sparkling beverage with no alcohol. Or check your emails. Or check emails. I got a phone call in. But anyways, let's get back to trivia. The last question was, what state capital is the highest above sea level?
Starting point is 00:16:02 Unfortunately, nobody got it wrong. Santa Fe is the answer at 7,199 feet. It sits in the Sangre de Cristo Mountains, which also hold the state's highest point, Wheeler Peak, coming in at 13,161 feet. The next highest state capitals are Cheyenne, Wyoming, at 6,086, Denver at 5,276, Carson City, Nevada at 6,086. Denver at 5,276.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Carson City, Nevada at 4,682. And rounding out the top five is Salt Lake City at 4,265. Very interesting. Very good. Cheyenne, great question. Thank you. If I were going to redo that question Right
Starting point is 00:16:45 And I was If I was trying to make A stronger tie Yeah To the meat eater universe I would say something like In your factoid You'd like
Starting point is 00:16:51 Nestled in the San Bonita mountains Or whatever This is the highest State capital in America And then it'd be like A public lands tie So it was right there
Starting point is 00:17:02 I'd like It was a good question though Wheeler Peak In the adjacent blank National Forest. You guys are being hard on Giannis. I agree. I appreciate the feedback.
Starting point is 00:17:14 That's when Giannis says, question three. That's right. Question three, cooking. This is the thin, tacky, lacquer-like layer that forms on fish flesh after it has been brined and then dried, giving smoke something to adhere to. Brody with a quick answer, as I expected with this question.
Starting point is 00:17:38 That's my bone. Yes. Yeah. Well, you being a meat eater trivia master, there's going to be a couple in here for you but yeah gotta have it if you want that's right fish yeah that's right again the question is this is the thin tack lacquer-like layer that forms on fish flesh after it has been brined and then dried, giving smoke something to adhere to.
Starting point is 00:18:16 A couple more answers coming in slowly. Tressa and Rick still thinking. How are you doing down there, Randall? Not happy. My worst fear coming into this was that it'd be like a 10 for 10 for everybody. That's not the case. Dude, the questions were so easy.
Starting point is 00:18:40 I don't know this answer, but I know Steve provided it in the past as an incorrect answer to a different question. I don't think that answer, but I know Steve provided it in the past as an incorrect answer to a different question. I don't think that's the right answer. That was my initial answer. I don't think it's the right answer. Maybe I'll write it down anyway. Oh, you think you know what I'm referring to?
Starting point is 00:18:56 Yeah. Enough chit-chat there, boys. Moving on. Helped Randall. I just don't think it's... What do you think, Spencer? I know. You don't know the game's new ship that has to go on.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I didn't think he'd have that recollection. Go ahead and reveal your answers. I beat Steve on that question. Brody with pellicle. Tressa, no answer. Rick, an A. Randall, myoglobin. Hansi, pellicle.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Max, silverskin. Spencer, rind. We have a correct question. It is pellicle. Max Silverskin, Spencer Rind. We have a correct question. It is Pelicle. Correct answer. Thanks. The Pelicle is formed when proteins from the meat bond as they dry on the outside of the fish.
Starting point is 00:19:33 The Pelicle also helps to seal in moisture. It is a crucial step in smoking fish and any meat for that matter. If you want to try smoking fish and making your own Pelicle, check out Wade Chuang's recipe for smoked catfish at themeateater.com. So is the pellicle
Starting point is 00:19:50 composed of those proteins? Correct. Are those myoglobin proteins? I do not... You know what's interesting about this question is I can tell you that there is not a lot, besides what I've told you on the internet, exactly about the chemical process of creating pellicle.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Y'all surprised. Krista wanted me to Instagram famous chefs and stuff. I'm like, bro, I don't have enough time for that. So we're going to go with what I found. Good way to get it is run a fan over that stuff. That's right. We're on to question four hunting based on sales data from federal ammunition what is the most popular bullet weight in 30 caliber bullets so i'm looking for a weight.
Starting point is 00:20:46 So this is in loaded. Correct. Federal, okay. So cartridges, not... Well, loaded cartridges, what they sell. We're looking for a weight. Bullet weights from federal. The answer is in bullet weight, but yeah, what they sell in cartridges. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Brody, quick answer. Spencer's got an answer. So this is the grain, right? Yes. Okay. See, I'm not a big rifle guy. It's interesting. It ain't pounds, Max.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I know. You were quick, Brody. You think you have this one right? Man I shot a.30 caliber for a long time Yeah, I hope so But I don't know There's a lot of different weights out there There's for a lot of different things
Starting point is 00:21:37 The Federal only loads certain bullets They have their own bullets as well Well, I'm not going to say it Because there's one. Yeah. I put down a shock and wait. It's going to be incorrect, Max. I'm joking.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I didn't. Does everybody have an answer? No, not yet. Hold on. I'm still, I'm between three. You got five seconds. Come on, Rick. You're a gun guy.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Well, yeah. Do you have a favorite question today, Ani, in your batch? Yes, I do. Okay. I do. You should alert us. I saved it a gun guy. Well, yeah. Do you have a favorite question today, Ani, in your batch? Yes, I do. Okay. You should alert us. I saved it for the end. There you go. It's a tough one.
Starting point is 00:22:14 I mean, yeah. But we're all going to learn something. Mm-hmm. Again, based on sales data from Federal Ammunition, what is the most popular bullet weight in.30 caliber bullets? I might change my answer. I was going to say, bro. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Very good question, Giannis. You like it? It's a good thinker. It is. Makes you think about it, yeah. No, I'm not going to change it. Fine. No.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Let's go. Okay, let's just do it. Reveal your answers. Brody, 180. Tress, 0.09 grains. Rick, 150. Randall, 165. Hansi, 165. Max, 140. And Spencer, 150 grains. We do have correct answers in the room.
Starting point is 00:23:17 It is 150 grains. Nice job, guys. Those dang 30-30s. No, Brody, it's the.308. Whatever. I guarantee it's.308. Correct. I asked Brian Kelvington from Federal, and he replied
Starting point is 00:23:33 to me that the rifle team went through recent database on a five-year average, and surprisingly, it is the.150 grain bullet being driven by the.30-30 and. 308. 180 grain is second and then 165.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I would have guessed 180 grain myself. 100%. Wasn't even close. If you'd like to know more about the 30-30, check out Jordan Siller's Caliber Battle article, 30-30 win versus 350 legend at TheMeatEater.com. Well done, Yanni. Really liked that done, Yanni. Yeah, really like that
Starting point is 00:24:06 question, Yannis. Thanks. Thanks, guys. You guys are really making me feel good. I'm still waiting for my bone. Well, I didn't know who exactly was going to be on the show, Max. When we decided to do this. Alright, on to question
Starting point is 00:24:21 five. It's fishing. I'm going to tell you how to tie a specific knot, and I need you to tell me what knot it is. Pass the working end of the line through the eye of the hook. Wrap it five times around the standing line. Pass it through the first loop between the hook and the first wrap. Pull the working end and the standing line to tighten the knot. Clip the tag in and you're finished.
Starting point is 00:24:48 What is the name of this knot? This would have been a good one for the kids episode. I told you I had a bone for everybody, Brody. Max is thinking still. Oh, you got an answer written down. Okay, does everybody have an answer? Hansi? Oh, I think there's...
Starting point is 00:25:14 Read it again. I want to hear it again. I'm going to tell you how to tie a specific knot. Tell me what the knot is. Pass the working end of the line through the eye of the hook. Wrap it five times around the standing line. Pass it through the first loop between the hook and the first is. Pass the working end of the line through the eye of the hook. Wrap it five times around the standing line. Pass it through the first loop between the hook and the first wrap. Pull the working end and the
Starting point is 00:25:30 standing line to tighten the knot. Clip the tag end, and you're done. What's the name of the knot? Go ahead and reveal your answers. This is like a reading comprehension quiz. Brody, Clinch, Tress side, fisherman's knot, Rick clinch, Randall clinch,
Starting point is 00:25:48 Hansi improved fisherman's, Max improved clinch, fisherman's knot from Spencer. I messed up. The answer is clinch knot. I would have also accepted cinch. I am unsure if this knot is ever called a fisherman's i think it's a
Starting point is 00:26:07 similar knot but i feel like it stopped one step short yeah becoming a fisherman's knot i think the fishermen's i think the fishermen's is the improved clinch and make one more so unfortunately max we're not going to be able to give it to you phil can you give me a half point it's a negative uh the clinch knot is a foundational knot tied by millions of anglers worldwide also referred to as the cinch it's probably the easiest and fastest knot to tie it's strong although you may experience slippage with braided lines that's why you use the improved clinch for you gotta use uni uni for braid or the improved clinch right that was uh question number five so phil can you give us a score update please yeah love to okay we've got max and tressa yet to make it on the board of zero points hansi has
Starting point is 00:27:01 one point and then it's a tight game. We got Brody, Randall, Rick, and Spencer all tied up with two points apiece. I thought I was out of it. Yeah. Now I gotta concentrate. Yeah, I think
Starting point is 00:27:14 there was a bunch of you that thought you were out of it, but with two, you are still in it. I'm feeling a little bit bad for making tough questions now. Hard-ass substitute teacher. Yep.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Throw me a bone. Hey, folks. Exciting news for those who live or hunt in Canada. And boy, my goodness, do we hear from the Canadians whenever we do a raffle or a sweepstakes. And our raffle and sweepstakes law makes it that they can't join.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Whew! Our northern brothers get irritated. Well, if you're sick of, you know, sucking high and titty there, OnX is now in Canada! The great features that you love in OnX are available for your hunts this season. The Hunt app
Starting point is 00:28:03 is a fully functioning GPS with hunting maps that include public and crown land, hunting zones, aerial imagery, 24K topo maps, waypoints, and tracking. That's right. We're always talking about OnX here on the MeatEater podcast. Now you guys in the Great White North can be part of it, be part of the excitement. You can even use offline maps to see where you are without cell phone service.
Starting point is 00:28:30 That's a sweet function. As part of your membership, you'll gain access to exclusive pricing on products and services handpicked by the OnX Hunt team. Some of our favorites are First Light, Schnee's, Vortex Federal, and more. As a special offer, you can get a free three months to try OnX out if you visit onxmaps.com slash meet. onxmaps.com slash meet. Welcome to the OnX club, y'all. Question number six is hunting.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Sarcocystis found in dabbling ducks is a disease more commonly known as what? Max, if this ain't a bone for you, I don't know what is. Oh, my goodness. Sarcosistis, found in dabbling ducks, is a disease more commonly known as what? Hansi, also a water fowler, and I would hope that it would have been a bone for you as well. I got a bone to pick with you, Jonas. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Did I mispronounce it? Nope. We'll get there. I knew this would happen. It's part of playing the game, isn't it? You knew what would happen? That there would be a bone to pick. I made it all the way to question six before the first bone to pick came about. Axe to grind a bone to pick. I made it all the way to question six
Starting point is 00:30:05 before the first bone to pick came about. Axe to grind, bone to pick. I'll be excited to witness this. I hope you thoroughly pick it, Brody. I'm just going to sit here and enjoy whatever goes down. Did you find any in the ducks we killed last December?
Starting point is 00:30:24 This seems like it. You can't tell me that. Max is digging. You can't. You can't. No. Did you find any what? Well, let me tell you.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Oh. Yep. The space that I have on right now, I've seen Spencer make many a time. You're like, shut up. No, when it's like, I can't give away anything from my face around what they're trying to ask of me. No facial expressions. Poker face. Yeah. Is everybody ready to reveal their answers? Randall's not confident. Oh I don't have an answer. Oh. I don't have an answer. Okay. I don't have an answer. Probably not going to get it.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Would you like a little more time, Randall? No, that's fine. You can go ahead. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Brody with rice breast. Tressa, no answer. Rick, bird flu. Randall, no answer.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Hansi, avian flu. Max, rice breast. Spencer, rice breast. The correct answer is rice breast. Nice. There you go, Max. The parasitic infection is called sarcosystis. The infection does not affect the duck.
Starting point is 00:31:30 There are no signs of infection other than the visible cysts. The duck or other prey animal is the intermediate host, and predators like skunks, coyotes, foxes are the primary. When the predator eats an infected duck, the cysts open up, mate, and produce microscopic eggs eggs which are pooped out. The duck accidentally ingests the eggs, usually at water sources. The eggs hatch, the larvae find their way to major muscles of the duck, and form the rice-shaped cyst. Freezing or cooking meat will kill the parasite, but most hunters discard infected meat.
Starting point is 00:32:01 To see a photo of rice breast, go to my my Instagram, Giannis underscore Patelis, and look at the post from December 31st, 2022. Brody? It's not real bad. I'm just wondering whether it should be called a disease or not. Oh. Or a parasite, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:20 Did any of the ducks that you and Max killed, did they have Rice Breast? They did. Okay. What did you guys do with them? I put them away, and then I ended up just cooking them and feeding them to Mingus. What did Mingus think? Any feedback?
Starting point is 00:32:37 Gobbled it right up. That was good. We're on to question seven, which is conservation. And this great question comes to us via Logan Landman. If you have a question you think is right for meat eater trivia, you can send it to trivia at the meat eater.com. For his question, Logan is going to receive, what can I throw him?
Starting point is 00:32:58 Spencer? He's going to get a book signed by Steve. All right, there you go, Logan. Eventually when the board game is out, people are going to get a board game that's signed by us. All right. There you go, Logan. Eventually, when the board game is out, people are going to get a board game
Starting point is 00:33:06 that's signed by us. But until then, they get books signed by Steve. I love it. The question is, what tree species dominated American forests
Starting point is 00:33:17 and almost went extinct in the early 20th century due to disease? What was the topic? Again, conservation. I think that fits. 100% fits. In there?
Starting point is 00:33:34 100%. Rick, quick answer. Randall, quick answer. Rick, you're a forestry... Major. Major, yeah. So was this an easy question for you? Yeah, I feel like it. Maybe I'll get slapped and have it question for you? Yeah, I feel like it.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Maybe I'll get slapped and have it gotten wrong, but yeah, I feel like I'm good. When did you say it almost blinked out? 1920. Early 20th century. Got the 20 part right. Again, what tree species dominated American forests and almost went extinct in the early 20th century due to disease?
Starting point is 00:34:11 Good point, Brody. Stop. Yeah, I think I can give you that. I'm going to split it in half and tell you that it is the eastern half of the United States. Didn't change his answer. Please reveal your answers if everybody has one. Brody goes with American Elm, Tressa Oak, Rick, American Chestnut, Randall Elm, Hansi Elm, Max, American Elm, Spencer Chestnut. The correct answer is the American Chestnut. The correct answer is
Starting point is 00:34:45 the American Chestnut. I like my ally. Good one, because I thought that was in the 50s when that happened. Is there any wiggle room? What's the disease? Could the disease affect Elm and about knock them out? Boy, there are a lot of folks that thought
Starting point is 00:35:02 it was Elm. I think the problem with me was Dutch Elm disease was later in the century, I think. It was not far behind. Dutch Elm disease was early 20th would have been American Chestnut, Dutch Elm, depending on the state and what part. Because it hit like the East Coast, different than the upper Midwest, which would have been like later, like mid 20th century. How far apart are we talking, Rick? I was going to say. We're talking about pre-1950. which would have been like later like mid early mid to late you can break it into that do we have any extinct trees in like the United States the American
Starting point is 00:35:35 chest I think is the one that's the closest to be very close I mean in the biggest there's a couple of big ones I think the biggest ones still could be wrong about this true field treesula trees. Would be in Tennessee. What? Truffula trees. The Lorax. The Lorax? Oh, man. You guys have kids?
Starting point is 00:35:54 Yeah, the biggest, yeah. Chestnut blight was brought to the U.S. in 1904 through the introduction of Japanese chestnut trees to the Bronx Zoo. Within 40 years, the nearly 4 billion strong American chestnut population in North America was devastated and only a few clumps of trees remained in Michigan, Wisconsin, and the Pacific Northwest.
Starting point is 00:36:18 It is estimated that in some places such as the Appalachian Mountains, one in every four hardwoods was an American chestnut. Pretty amazing to think that that went down. On to question eight, hunting. And this is your second geography question for the day. What Canadian province
Starting point is 00:36:41 sits between Maine and the Gulf of St. Lawrence? Again, the question is, what Canadian province sits between Maine and the Gulf of St. Lawrence? Brody, how are you feeling about this one? So-so. Spencer? I feel okay, or I might be really embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:37:16 You could tell me this is on the other side of the continent, but I think I've got a good shot at it. Researching this question, I was surprised how many provinces old Canada has. This is hunting? See, I just feel like all geography is always related to hunting.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Or conservation. In my mind. Or conservation. I agree. Honestly, I like it. Rick, you're being a great cheerleader. Oh, good. Well, everyone, you know, Brody's is beating him Rick, you're being a great cheerleader. Oh, good. Well, everyone, you know, Brody's is beating him up, so I got to cheer him on.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Well, Rick still has that glow about him from the chestnut question. That's true. Yeah, that was my bone. Rick has a dewy look in his eye right now. Giannis came in here thinking everyone was going to get every question right. I think I have two questions right. That's brutal. No, I think you do. Br think I have two questions right. That's brutal. No, I think you're brutal.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Brutal. Brutal. Does everyone have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Brody with Quebec, Tressa Alberta, Rick Newfoundland, Randall Newfoundland, Hansi Newfoundland, Max Newfoundland, Spencer with Nova Scotia. We do not have a correct answer in the room. The answer is New Brunswick.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Brunswick stew? New Brunswick is one of the three maritime provinces, the other two being Prince Edward Island and Nova Scotia. Spencer, you're probably the closest. It is bordered by Quebec to the north, Nova Scotia to the east, Gulf of St. Lawrence to the northeast, and Bay of Fundy to the southeast.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Hunting opportunities include moose, bear, whitetail deer, turkey, as well as waterfowl. I was quite surprised to hear that they pretty much have the gamut. Look at us ignorant Americans. No idea. Phil, that was question eight, so that brings us up to another score update, please.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Not much has changed. That's correct, we have to say goodbye to Tressa, Max and Hansi technically Randall is still in the game with two points we've got Brody and Rick with three and Spencer Newharth is in first place with four points
Starting point is 00:39:22 I don't like this position. So you aren't far away, though, from your... You know, and I forgot to mention up top, I should have had it in the intro, is that you guys will just have to trust Spencer and myself that I did not, did not let him read this script whatsoever. No, because he'd have like seven right. I'd be whooping you guys.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Spencer's smarter than that. No, he would play and be like, well, they all have two. he'd have like seven right if i'd be whooping you guys spencer's smarter than that no he's gonna if i were cheating if i were cheating i'd make sure that i was two questions ahead with two questions left that's exactly how i do it well then you know i'm not cheating it's only one ahead left oh sorry i'm just thinking of you relative to me okayuck in my own mind. This is my favorite question of the day here of the game. It is cooking. And I'm going to be just extremely impressed if anyone can get this one, because I would not have gotten it. When butchering an animal,
Starting point is 00:40:20 what is the process of removing the trachea and esophagus called? Can I leave? No answers. No scribbling. Brody at least looks like he's thinking that there might be something in there. Again, when butchering an animal, what is the process of removing the trachea and esophagus called? Max has gone to checking Google on his phone.
Starting point is 00:40:58 No, I'm working right here. I'm working right here. I'm kidding. It's just my favorite because I was just so excited to learn about this last week. Oh, when you did your sheep? Correct. So if you attended Yanni's butcher school, you would know this one? You would. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Mm-hmm. Okay. It would be interesting to see if any of those children or the adults there retained that information that I gave them. Alright, everybody that does have an answer or is going to have one, you guys ready? Max, that's good.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Go ahead and reveal your answers. Brody's going with plum. Tressa, no answer. Rick, roadhousing it. Randall, neckotomy. Hansi, tracheotomy. Max, dethroting. Spencer, throatbotomy.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I like Hansi's answer. Yeah, that's definitely the closest. The answer is weasending. Wow. answer yeah um that's definitely the closest the answer is weasending wow webster's dictionary defines weasened as throat gullet also trachea removing the trachea and esophagus is thus weasending i learned this the other day from meat eater contributor anna borgman after she weasended a domestic ewe that i used for a field dressing demonstration at an outdoor skills camp held at the jack creek preserve awesome location staff. For more info on their camps and other activities, check out jackcreekpreserve.org. And for more great information on butchering and
Starting point is 00:42:36 cooking wild animals, check out Anna's contributions to the Mediator website. I especially like her article, How to Clean and Cook Liver. Anyone that reads this article will have the confidence to pack out a liver this fall and turn it into something tasty. You can also find Anna talking about butchering on Instagram at Anna Borgman. B-O-R-G-M-A-N.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I really like following her on Instagram. Love Anna's content. She's great. Are you guys happy that you now know the word weasened and weasending? I can't wait to do some weasening this fall. I was going to tell you I already forgot it by the time you even got here. I'd be a lot happier if I'd known it
Starting point is 00:43:14 five minutes ago. I thought that someone might say, well, why would you weasen, right? Giannis, why would you? Well, the esophagus, right, can have a lot of bacteria in there because of the food that's still sitting there, right? And so the way she did it, she basically cut the throat and was able to access that, pulled the esophagus out, tied a knot in it and sort of reamed it as though you were going to ream the anus preparing to field dress it, right? And then when later, when I
Starting point is 00:43:44 gutted it and was and i just pulled you know i grabbed it and the esophagus trachea and pulled the heart and everything out it also came right on out of the animal now anna has creative uses for like every bit of awful in a critter is there anything that she can do with the esophagus and trachea i don't know i haven't heard about it. Hey, Spencer, your head's full of stats. What's the lowest score to ever win this game? We've had, I think it was like the second or third episode,
Starting point is 00:44:13 we had a four. We've had a few fives and sixes, but for like the last year, I try to keep it above six. Hear that, Giannis? Yes, yes. Well, it seems like that's going to be the biggest feedback. Phil, can you give us another
Starting point is 00:44:28 score update with one question left? Yeah, it is down to Spencer, Rick, and Brody. Spencer still has his four and Rick and Brody have three points. Come back. I believe we're going to have some correct answers to this one. It's going to get interesting.
Starting point is 00:44:45 I think you might be a little too optimistic. Question 10 is hunting. In the 1972 movie Jeremiah Johnson, Jeremiah finds a frozen mountain man. The mountain man had written a note, which is now frozen to his chest. Quote, I, Yannis Patelis, being of sound mind and broke legs,
Starting point is 00:45:12 do leaveth my bear rifle to whatever finds it. Later he added, it is a good rifle and kilt the bear that kilt me. Anyway, I am dead. Yours truly. What is this mountain man's name? You know this one, Brody? Uh-oh. I think I do. Rick Nealon. I'm not going to say anything. Randall.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Steve's going to be real mad at you if you don't. Yeah. I'm a little surprised, Randall, because you're kind of a movie guy too, right? I don't know that I'm a movie guy. Do you know what Randall's been working on lately? No. A book about mountain men. No, no.
Starting point is 00:45:48 You might have to tell me later, but this is a fictional mountain man. Not yet. Even though he's famous, he's fictional. If I think about this for a while, I think I could come up with it. Like 30 seconds or 30 hours? Oh, no. I'm just not working at it because I've already lost and I'm a sore loser.
Starting point is 00:46:12 It's going to delight me when I hear the right answer, though. I don't have this one, right? I knew it. I knew it. So we're going to overtime, I think. I mean, look, I could be way overconfident and end up looking like a jackass. I knew. i was confident in rick's answer you already lost uh please reveal your answers brody hatchet jack oh
Starting point is 00:46:35 tracino answer rick hatchet jack randall no answer hansi george jack max question mark spencer herman the correct answer is hatchet jack later in the movie jeremiah runs into dell jew and dell asks of the rifle ain't that hatchet jack's rifle jeremiah responds yep dell asks how did you get it jeremiah says found him frozen to a tree dell adds damn hatchet jack was a wild one he was living two years up in a cave on the mussel shell with a female panther. She never did get used to him. So, do we have a
Starting point is 00:47:14 winner, Phil? Are we going to overtime? We're going to a three-way tie, Giannis. Oh my goodness! To Brody, Rick, and Spencer. Tie breaker! You ain't first, you're last! Tremendous. I think just cut it at, if you ain't first you're last tremendous I think just cut it at if you ain't first you're last
Starting point is 00:47:28 and then like go into other stuff that's funny I never liked it hey Phil f*** off man it never gets old never
Starting point is 00:47:35 do people like do we know this is this a stat we've come up with do people like when episodes go to tiebreakers absolutely
Starting point is 00:47:43 mostly I think well one it makes it a little more entertaining. Two, a lot of folks play within a group, like their family or their coworkers or whatever, and they'll often end in a tie and then have no way to break that tie. So it's been requested that I have a tiebreaker every episode for that instance. I can't come up with that many good numerical tiebreakers, so they're just going to have to settle for having tiebreakers
Starting point is 00:48:05 when we have tiebreakers. What did you do for the game? You just like a block of tiebreaker cards? There are 50 cards that are tiebreaker cards that are just like ours where they are numerical. This question is probably going to have to do something with geography. Or hunting, as we like to call it. I just think it's a good tiebreaker
Starting point is 00:48:23 because I don't have a backup tiebreaker question. So hopefully we won't have our first. Another gas leak. So it's three-way with Rick, Spencer, and Brody. Is that correct? Correct. All right. But everybody should play along.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Yes. The extra money thing still going on? Extra $100 donation if somebody gets it dead nuts. All right. And I believe you possibly could. This great question was given to me by MeatEater Managing Editor Jordan Sillers. A grain is an obscure unit of measurement still used to weigh bullets and powder charges. How many grains are in one pound?
Starting point is 00:49:10 Sorry, I don't have this question on the slide. So you just have to look at this lovely logo that Hunter Spencer created. Love that logo, Hunter. Okay. Again, the question is, a grain is an obscure unit of measurement still used to weigh bullets and powder charges. How many grains are in one pound?
Starting point is 00:49:34 Brody really wants to win. Oh, Brody. No, I just don't want to look like a fool. Mm-hmm. You don't have to worry about that because I have that handled. Oh, I've got a way of figuring this one out. A squared plus B squared equals C squared. None.
Starting point is 00:49:54 When I asked this question to a group of botanists the other day, somehow somebody knew how many grains there were in another measurement and thus got to the correct answer. I don't know. Nobody's super confident. The bummer is I knew this at one point. I remember reading
Starting point is 00:50:22 it and knowing and like talking to people about it and it was so long ago that I... Maybe I got close, but it's a tough one. Grain is so obscure. Yeah, you never... And you don't compare it to like...
Starting point is 00:50:37 No, wait. You said one pound, right? Correct. How many grains are in one pound? Which is 16 ounces. That's correct. Easy. I'd like to win this, Max. Do you feel confident, Spencer?
Starting point is 00:50:53 Mm-mm. No. Am I close? Well, I don't know. I have no idea if I'm close. Rick, you got an answer. Spencer's got an answer. Brody, do you have your final answer?
Starting point is 00:51:03 I'm more worried about Rick than Brody. Sure. All right, folks, go ahead and reveal your answers for the tiebreaker. Tressa coming in at 2,037. Randall, 7,800. Hansi, 3,000. Max, 2,700. Brody, 1,600.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Rick, 700. Spencer, 2,700. Brody, 1,600. Rick, 700. Spencer, 2,001. The correct answer is 7,000, making Spencer the winner. Yes. Nice work on your clue. Nice job. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:51:37 It's washed over me now. I'm no longer nervous. You shouldn't be. Now I feel like I can enjoy it after recording for 40 minutes. Up until now, Yanni, I was almost not enjoying it. This is great. We might have to go have a celebratory beer
Starting point is 00:51:52 after this together because I survived hosting the first episode. You somehow come in and win. You know what? Winning is fun. This is more fun. I enjoyed winning more than I did hosting. Despite Randall trying to sabotage the whole game by loosening a pipe somewhere in the building.
Starting point is 00:52:09 At this point, you might have to, the rest of the crew just want to invite me back just so that I can give you a loss so that you know what it feels like to be on both sides of the coin. Maybe, Rick, if I was you, I'd have said I forgot one zero. I was like, man, I was one zero off.
Starting point is 00:52:24 The 700 in my mind, so I was just one zero off from beating you. I just tried, I just said, I forgot one zero. I was just like, man, I was one zero off. Yeah. I, the 700 in my mind. So I was just one zero off from beating you. I just tried. Or no, we would have tied. No. Yeah. We would have beaten you. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Damn it. I know you were actually the closest. Yeah. And I started, I, my first guess was 7,200. I was going off of how many, uh, I've got a, uh, 300 wind mag load of H1000. And I was thinking of how many cases I can fill up with a pound of powder. Ah, there you go. Well, you got close.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Encyclopedia Britannica explains that a grain is one of the earliest units of common measure and the smallest. The ancient grain was defined as the weight of a designated number of dry wheat kernels taken from the middle of the ear. It was also used as the original basis for the medieval English inch, which was defined as the length of three medium-sized barley corns placed end to end. That's all a bit confusing, so I checked Webster's too,
Starting point is 00:53:19 and they say a unit of weight based on the weight of a grain of wheat taken as an average of the weight of grains from the middle of the ear. So I hope that that is as clear as mud if you're wondering how the weight of a grain came about. Thank you all for playing. Join us next time for more meat. You're forgetting something there. What am I?
Starting point is 00:53:40 $500 donation. Oh, that's right. His moment of glory. Were you prepared for this? You know what? I've thought about this in case somebody, when we were playing in my head. Just threw it to you. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:51 They'd be like, Spencer, you always host. You never get to choose. So, you know, I'm going to let you give the donation this time. It hasn't happened, Brody, but I've expected it to. It's too late now. I think one of the organizations I benefited from the most in my lifetime is Pheasants Forever. I'm not a huge pheasant hunter, but growing up in South Dakota, I was surrounded by CRP and CREP, which people call CREP. Most folks think of it as like a singular upland hunting area.
Starting point is 00:54:20 It's not the case. It also makes phenomenal habitat for big whitetail bucks that I like to hunt. A lot of them have water in it. They're great for duck hunting. So we're going to do pheasants forever. Nice. Duck nesting too. That's right.
Starting point is 00:54:31 All sorts of benefits. Everybody loves CRP. I mean, come on. That's right. All right. So 500 bucks to pheasants forever. Nice. A little tip.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Obviously, you know that these were hard questions. And this is good for our listeners too who like to write in. The number one feedback I would have to them is their questions are too hard people like to write in and ask like what is the highest mountain in tennessee or uh things like that that are very obscure um and it's hard for somebody to come to to getting the right answer unless they were like very local to this thing sure um so that So that's a tip for our listeners. Make them a little bit easier. And it's easier for me to then make them harder
Starting point is 00:55:09 than it is for me to create a good question out of something that's already super difficult. Way to go, Spencer. Nice job. Thank you, bro. Thank you for letting me host. Thank you, Yanni. We'll do it again.
Starting point is 00:55:22 It was super fun. Thank you. Yanni says a little work to do, but you did great. I think you did fine, Yanni. We'll do it again. It was super fun. Yannis has a little work to do, but you did great. I think you did fine, Yannis. Don't let Brody bring you down. Please join us next time for more Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where
Starting point is 00:55:33 conservation always wins. Yay! Thanks, Max. Wish I could say the same. Hey folks, exciting news for those who live or hunt in Canada. You might not be able to join our raffles and sweepstakes and all that because of raffle and sweepstakes law, but hear this. On-axe hunt is now in Canada. It is now at your fingertips, you Canadians.
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