The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 492: Fishing and Films with Rob Lowe

Episode Date: November 6, 2023

Steven Rinella talks to Rob Lowe, Spencer Neuharth, Randall Williams, Phil Taylor, and Corinne Schneider.  Topics discussed: The Trivia board game is available at last!; Spearing and fileting mahi; when you have a law degree and a commercial fishing license; being into the technical fishing scene; how Rob’s mom studied under Faulkner; tough-assed feet; filleted squirrel; when picking up live lobster gives you the shivers; the fish grooming the turtle’s head; Rob’s quiz show, “The Floor,” coming in 2024; just how badly Steve wants to be a contestant on Rob’s show; hive mentality; one of the ten sexiest men alive who is not recognized for that sexiness; wilderness movie trivia with Rob Lowe; tapping, slapping, or dinging quickly; seeing “Goldfinger” in the theater; “Jeremiah Johnson” as the most un-Sydney Pollock ever made; when the guy in the movie doesn’t fill his pronghorn quota; writing in a game warden character; when the star of the film is a duck stamp painter; a fluff of down; the invertebrates square; go listen to Rob’s podcast, “Literally!"; and more. Connect with Steve and MeatEater Steve on Instagram and Twitter MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and Youtube Shop MeatEater Merch    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Dude, when I started hearing that you were a fisherman, because people will, because I like to fish, and we do a show, and sort of the criteria of coming on the show is that you do interesting shit, but also like to hunt or fish or whatever. People will be, I'll get messages to be like did you know robert little fishes oh that's so interesting and i didn't know and it was the thing one of the things that caught my eye and uh corinne actually resurfaced it was you um you talking up to someone how you're going to bring him some mahi yeah but i was like he's an actual fisherman yeah and the mahi you got a fillet knife and everything well in the mahi i um speared it really that's uh yeah so it's free diving those those the the last time i got a bunch of mahi it was uh my look i i have to give credit where

credit is due it's my i got my kids into fishing yeah really really really young one didn't want anything to do with it and the other one has leaned into it. He actually has his commercial fishing license. Really? Yeah, my son Matthew. He's one of the few people, I think, who passed the bar, so he's got his law degree and his commercial fishing license. Oh, man, he's uniquely suited. Yeah, he really is. He's got it covered from both directions. He's the one who's all, like, we were out last weekend looking for bluefin. Oh, really?

We literally do. You guys are into the technical fishing scene. Oh, yeah. He is. And I come along for the ride. Like, I'm down to clown. Like, he wants to do it. I'll go.

How old is he? He's just turned 30. Okay. So we literally drove from Channel Islands Harbor down to Palace Verdes out to San Clemente back to Anacapa. And it was like 85 miles. Like I'm like on a, on a car that would be a long way. Yeah. Let alone on the boat.

But, um, yeah, the Mahi was a spirit. Those, those, that's what I really love to do. Yeah. Uh, how long you been into that scene for? Um, probably about 12. Oh, well, God, longer. That's what I really love to do. Yeah. How long have you been into that scene for? Probably about 12. Oh, well, God, longer. 15 years.

Oh, that's great. When he started. Okay. He got me into it. And then, oh, you know, I want to change the subject because there's something I really want to ask you about. Your mom, I didn't know this until this morning, our producer here, Corinne, your mom studied under Faulkner?

Yeah, she took- That wild well she yeah he was the guest whatever you know for a semester um in where would it have been she was depaul depaul yeah that's right sick right oh that's crazy man i know she could be like you know when i was talking to william po, you know what they call him down south? Faulkner. Faulkner. Which sounds like you're goofing at him. Apparently she had a moment where she raised her hand in class and was like, I just wanted to ask you about the symbolism of the scene that you wrote where the such and such and the that. And it's really a throwback to the unconscious works of, father like man i just wrote it i don't know

i'm glad you like i'm glad you like that part yeah so uh what's what's um you did you specifically get your kids in the outdoors yeah as like a parenting strategy or they just happen to do it in spite of you no i, I got them into it. I mean, you know, that stuff's handed down, I think, a lot. You know, my dad loves fishing, canoeing, skiing, outdoors. You know, my generation grew up, you know, summer would come around and you'd take your shoes off. When I was a kid, it was like, summer was here when your shoes came off.

And that tells you everything you need to know about, about like how I grew up. So it's like. You get some tough ass feet. Yeah. You're tough ass feet. So I grew up outside. I'm outside all the time. I hate being indoors. So when my kids were old enough, we would hike and fish and ski. And if it was outdoors, we were doing it. I love it. I can't be indoors much. And you grew up around some squirrel hunters. Oh, I remember vividly the day I came to my neighbor's house

and walked through the kitchen and there were filleted squirrels out on the table. I remember that like it was yesterday. The Fugate family. That's a great Appalachian name. What was the name? The Fugates. i bet you some of them are listening right now there are a lot of fugates out there hey that's my squirrel yeah the fugates yeah for sure so uh when you had kids how did you how did you approach it i mean like were you trying to you know when you got kids into it were you what do you want to

introduce your boys was it that was it that this is what i want to do so you're coming along because this is what i want to do and i want to also be a dad so this is the plan or were you trying to present to them a sort of uh you know a sort of split or dichotomy, you know, between your life as an entertainer and your life as something with, that's more visceral and real. Like, you know, how strategic were you about it? Well, first of all, they had no idea I was an entertainer or anything. Cause I moved them out of LA immediately. We moved to Santa Barbara. You wanted to shield them from it. I should say shield.

That's a little aggressive, but yeah. Yeah. I just didn't want. That's a little aggressive. I live is, um, it's the kind of place where you can fish for three hours, have lunch, go on a hike, come back, go to the zoo and then go home. You can do all of that in one day up there. So for, for kids, it was just super easy to introduce them to being outdoors. And we just would adventure. We just adventured. So it wouldn't be unusual to go, Hey, today we're going to go, um, we're going to set up a lobster trap, you know, it's lobster season. Let's go see what we can get,

you know, whatever it was. Yeah. Do you do a lot of cooking? Here's the thing. I'm a horrible cook and don't cook. I can eat, I'll eat the hell out of anything. But like, I'm not, I'm not a, I'm not a, it's the one thing that's never, probably because I have so many good cooks in my family. Yeah. That I'm just an audience member. So what's the flow? What's the flow in the low household where you guys get a cool fish? Yeah. You get a lobster.

Then I turn it over to Matthew. My son Matthew is- you get a, you guys get a cool fish. Yeah. You get a lobster. So. That's Matt. Then I turn it over to Matthew. Matt, my son, Matthew is. He does, he processes and freezes.

That's, I'm a catcher and an eater. Yeah. And anything between that is handed off. Yeah. But it eventually, eventually comes around and winds up on your plate, but you're not going to touch it.

For sure. It's not that I don't want to touch it. Yeah, you're not going to, you're not the cooker. Yeah. And nobody ever, by the way, I was taught how to do. It's not that I don't want to touch it. Yeah, you're not going to. You're not the cooker. Yeah, and nobody ever taught me. By the way, I was taught how to do all of the stuff that I know how to do, but nobody ever taught me the other stuff. Like my grandpa who taught me how to fish taught me, and snook was our big thing down in the Gulf.

Oh, really? We went to Florida. Snook fishing was our big thing. His nickname was Mr. Snook. Oh, you're, yeah, that's it. You're in a lot of the, like I said, I use the word technical, but a lot of the catching stuff that's hard to catch. Yeah. I mean, just interesting.

You know, I never did a lot of my like Bass Lake stuff because I just, it was all ocean. Yeah. Not like catching bluegills off your grandma's dock. No, although I did that too. But yeah, no, it's, you know, game fish and all that stuff. But yeah, I never really learned the, I mean, look, I can got a fish if I have to, but I ruin half the meat probably. How's your, what do you guys do with the lobsters? Eat them.

I mean, here's the one thing I won't do. So Matthew, today I was on my way and he goes, dad, lobster season is, I guess it's like in a week or something and he's like so let's take our we have a boat um and because let's go out let's go and i'm like wait so i will not dive at night and catch a lobster it freaks me out first of all night diving is a thing yeah it's a very acquired taste i'm not adverse to a night dive but i don't want to do it in the cold. And I got to be honest, picking up a live lobster gives me the shivers. It's ooh. Day or night.

Yeah, no, for sure. There's something about it. I'm sure once I did two or three of them, I'd get over it. But I'll throw the trap down and do that. Yeah. But I'm not, but he wants to go into caves and shit. At night.

Yeah. At night. Yeah. When I've done that, what I've struggled with is, uh, you take for granted how much you can see around you. And then when I've,

when I dove at night with a light how uh if you sent something somewhere how long it takes to identify it oh yeah where especially underwater where your whole entire existence is shrunk down to this little circle of light. Yes. And just the delay. And then things seem creepy that wouldn't be creepy. Like I was diving at night one time in Hawaii and dove down under a ledge, like a reef ledge. And there was a big turtle with a unicorn fish. Sure.

Yeah. There's a Hawaiian word for it. I can never remember what the hell it is. All the Hawaiian words sound alike to me. I hate to say it, but it's really frustrating. Oh, yeah. I got some friends who'll take great offense at that. I know.

All my Hawaiian brothers are like, you know. But it is like, oh, yeah, it was a homo, homo, homo. Yeah, there's like ulu, uku. Uku, uku. By the way, my son does the Hawaiian pronunciation when he's over there too. Oh, he does? Yeah, and I make fun of him. Yeah.

Because he's not doing it on purpose. Oh, yeah, go for uku. I'm like, Matthew. That's a good fish. I'm like, Matthew, you went to Duke. Come on. Nobody at Duke calls it an uku. But I dove down and there was this thing is grooming.

This fish is grooming a turtle's head, you know? Yeah. And even that seemed like weird. Yeah. It seemed like you're staring through someone's window or something, just seeing something like intensely. It's cute in the daytime and at night it's disturbingly provocative.

Jeez, you guys get a room. This is interspecies. Oh, you know what? I got to tell you. So tell everybody about the quiz show you're going to be doing. Yeah, so. This is very interesting to me.

It's super cool. If you like trivia, which I know you guys do. Oh, dude. I love trivia. I got to introduce some people to you, but. Yeah, yeah. Go on. Tell them what you got going on.

So it's called The Floor. It will be on Fox sometime next year. And you have 81 contestants that stand on the floor. Home, it's next year? It'll be out post-January. I see, okay. We shot it now, but it comes in January.

And each of the 81 contestants are experts in their individual areas of trivia so you get everything as identified by how as identified and this is why i wanted to do it because it's everything that you would you know some of them are things you'd expect i'm an expert on uh united states uh presidencies i'm an expert uh not me oh that's okay i was like that's interesting but um no so it's everything like everything like one guy was like 80s one hit wonders. Another was car decals. Another might be species of animals.

Another might be, you know, it's everything from the like obscure to the fun, to the interesting, to the intellectual. And once you go head to head and if you beat somebody, you get their space on the floor. And they're standing on a space that is identified with their expertise. That's right. Like Star Trek. Is a space. Literally, you name it, and we have an expert on it. But then here's the thing.

I was looking at the trailer for it and I could see the spaces and I was very intrigued by the spaces. Yes. A wide variety, like wildlife, I can't remember how they put it, wild animals, child actors. Yes.

So let's say you're the wild animal dude and you're next to the child actor dude. At some point... What's that? You said you want to be a contender. Oh, dude, I'm so bad. I'm like annoyed. Deeply annoyed.

What would your area of expertise be? I would do well in wild animals. Okay, but here's the problem. But then I don't want, that's what I'm worried about. You got to battle, let's say you got to battle somebody. A child actor person. That's right. You got to battle them in their category. That's where I find that this whole setup is like,

it's good because you're going to find, what's that called? Someone that knows everything? A polymath? Yes, poly's good because you're going to find a, what's that called? Someone that knows everything. A polymath. Yes. Polymorph. You're going to find one of them. Yeah.

In the end. It's super, it's, it's super. And then you get into the sort of like the, the board game risk where you're like, I'd rather go back to the floor and not compete and stand my ground than, than potentially face. Let someone else doke it out.

Because when you win, you inherit that category. Oh, and then you have to defend it from... And then you have to defend that category. You don't want to overextend yourself. So you might win, but now we're defending a category you really don't know anything about. And it's a rare trivia show where it carries over to the next episode, right?

Isn't it like all eight episodes build to one winner? That's exactly right. It's time for me to make an introduction. We have a trivia show, but it's all outdoors. Amazing. And it's on the same feed. As people are listening, know this show comes out what, Mondays? Mondays. Wednesdays is Meteor Trivias. This is the trivia host, Spencer Newhart. I want to introduce you guys because you guys will be able to talk some shop about how to properly conduct a quiz show. Spencer has some...

We have a board game coming out. Hold the thing up. I saw it when I walked in. It looks sick. We have a board game coming out. November 1st. Our trivia show deal is that it's the only game show where conservation always wins because the winner always gets to make a the the winner makes a donation on our behalf is that am i putting that right yeah the winner makes a donation on our behalf to the conservation organization of their choosing that's

great so proceeds from the board game all go to support conservation organizations wildlife conservation orgs no one dollar per board game that's? $1 per board game that's sold. $1 per board game that's sold. That's great. So, the hell's that going with this? Oh, Spencer is going to pull some never before seen by me film questions. So, the collision of film and the outdoors. Let's go. So, we have eight categories in the board game. Hunting, fishing, conservation, cooking, woodsmanship, gear, wildlife, and natural history. Oh, amazing. Some of those I'm like, yeah, let's go. Let's throw down man.

And then some of those I'm like, oh, I'm screwed. Well, so I went through the questions. There's 800 questions in the game and I pulled five of them that are related to cinema. Let's go. And that's what we're going to ask. All right. Are we ready to do this? I'm ready for it.

Hell yeah. Now, here's the deal. I want to ask a couple questions. I'm so excited. Spencer told me. I want you to know this. I'm very competitive about. Hell yeah. Now, here's the deal. I want to ask a couple questions. So excited. Spencer told me. I want you to know this. I'm very competitive about this show. Spencer told me.

Nobody wants to play me on these games. They don't because I take it so seriously. This is our favorite thing that we do. Yeah, this is the main. Oh, thank you, Randall. This is Dr. Randall Williams. Hello, Dr. For real.

He's got a PhD in history. I've never brought it up. Steve brings it up all the time. Wow, that's really cool. So he's here because he's a very good... My son Matthew, who we've been talking about a lot, he's a military history major. Oh, wow.

I would seriously consider, if you guys go into a second season on the show, the floor, I would seriously consider putting Dr. Randall on the child actor square. That would be Adam Rich from Eight is Enough. I would seriously consider putting him on that floor. He's going to have a lot of little squares.

Yeah. So Spencer warned me. Spencer said he thinks that I would know all the questions, but I haven't seen them. But one of the problems is, and I's, I just want to set this up. I want you to see why you're at a disadvantage. All right. So we work together on a lot of different projects, book publishing stuff, video stuff,

podcast stuff, audio projects. So over the course of a lot of years, we've been working together for how long? Five years. So even though we haven't conspired about the questions, we just have a lot of the same input. Sure. So it's a little unfair.

I understand, 100%. So if it doesn't work out for you, and later... Are we playing against each other? Is that what's happening? No, not really. I just want to point out, later will be playing against you. Later, if somebody, like one of your buddies

is going to come to you and maybe one of your buddies is going to be like, oh, Steve, like you got beat in those questions. You'd be able to say,

well, here's the deal. Those guys all work together and they all like, they're in a mind meld. They're in a little group thing. Yeah, exactly.

It's a hive. Yeah. And so I'm just laying, I'm just helping you out with how, fucking hive mentality I came up against. Mind meld. They're in a little group thing. Mind meld. Exactly. It's a hive. Yeah. And so I'm just laying, I'm just helping you out with how- It's a fucking hive mentality I came up against. Yeah. You got it.

You got it. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Cut that out so when he uses it on his friends, it'll surprise them. That's right.

Good phrase. Hive mentality. Hey, folks. Exciting news Hey folks, exciting news for those who live or hunt in Canada. And boy, my goodness do we hear from the Canadians whenever we do a raffle or a sweepstakes. And our raffle and sweepstakes law makes it that they can't join. Whew, our northern brothers. You're irritated. Well, if you're sick of, you know, sucking high and titty there, OnX is now in Canada.

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Oh, man. Well, you've gone right to my Achilles heel. Okay, so I- I would view that like a very strong heel. So I was certain of it, so I Googled it. I Googled Rob Lowe, sexiest man alive, and it turns out he hasn't made it. Oh. But he has been on, let me read you this article.

That's what I'm saying. It says top 10 guys. His bio usually says not the sexiest man alive. Top 10 guys who were surprisingly never named sexiest man alive. Oh, that's better. Oh, good. So you're on that list. You're like a sleeper sexy man.

Do you want to know who else is there with you? Ricky Martin, John Stamos, Robert Downey Jr., Justin Timberlake, Jon Hamm, Leonardo DiCaprio, Will Smith, Ryan Gosling. So that's who's in your top ten. That makes me feel so much better. Who's the sexiest man alive right now? Is this still a thing or did it kind of get like sort of out?

No, no, no. It's a real thing. Do you still think you have a chance? Could you do it? I've decided what they're going to do now is that bullshit thing they do where they give you the Oscar where you're really, really old. A lifetime of sexiness. I'm going to get the sexiest man alive when I'm like 70. Oh, that'd be great though.

They've waited this long. There's no reason to give it to me now. So they're going to wait until I'm not clearly not sexy anymore. And then be like, see what we did? We gave it to an old guy aren't we cool man that would make online dating just so easy it's just it's like sexiest man alive literally here's my card there's nothing more needs to be said so i was ready to introduce you that way no but but instead you're one of the top ten sexiest men. So you fact-checked your own thing. Who has never been one of the sexiest men alive.

No, that's good. They refuse to do it. One of the ten. They simply won't be forced to do it. One of the ten sexiest men who is not recognized for that sexiness. That's right. That's a good list. All right.

Here's the first question. There's five questions. These are all related to cinema, but still within our universe. Do we have a time limit here? No, just whenever you come up with an answer. Oh, great. See, you guys, I love it. I like that.

Phil, what's on that screen there? Oh, you want me to check his work? I'm afraid this fella back here. Screen's off, Steve, I promise. This fella back here is typing in, and it's like feeding. They might have some headphone shit going on. Come on, man. Steve Kerr from the Golden State Warriors here. Oh, that's good.

I don't think you've ever heard that one, have you, Phil? Not a basketball guy, I gotta say, but I knew it was basketball. He knew Golden State Warriors. They've only won four titles. It's great. It's an uncanny resemblance. It is, isn't it? Totally. Alright, this was question 707. Oh, boy. And no one's ever heardanny resemblance. It is, isn't it? It is. Totally. All right, this was question 707.

Oh, boy. And no one's ever heard these questions before. This is the first time. Well, this is for Ryan. I haven't heard the question. Is Steve playing as Randall? If you guys want to play. We're conversing.

Sure. We'll see how Rob does. It's not a contest. I think we should have the competition. We'll see how it goes. Okay, can I say something? I want to hear the question. Guys, I have produced two have the competition. Let's see how it goes. Okay, can I say something? I want to hear the question. Guys, I have produced two network game shows.

So can I just say, here's how I think we do this. Oh, I got it. He's pulling a little rank. He's pulling rank on you, Spencer. I don't know if you can feel it. We're playing together against each other. Okay. It's a race to answer first.

Oh. But once you answer first, that's your answer. And the other guy who maybe hasn't gone first has as long as he wants. And I got to stop reading the question as soon as one of you is like, you know the answer. You can't interrupt. You read it once. Can you interrupt with your answer?

Or do you need to wait for the- The minute you think you know it, you can do it. Can I tell you something? Yeah. This is going to seem metaphysical. Yeah. Now and then, he'll be reading a question, and he won't have- Something will visit me-

And you'll know it. No. It's not that I know it. I just- I know that I know it. I just, I know that I know it. I know. I know. That happens when my wife and I play charades.

Okay. She'd be, okay, it's a movie and I'll, you know, it's like, and you're like, it's gone with the wind or whatever. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Oh, I know. Cause you'd be like an aquifer. And I'd be like, it's the Oglala Aquifer.

Cause it's the only aquifer anybody knows. It's the only aquifer anybody's ever heard of. Right. And by the way, the fact that I've not heard of that at all makes me feel like I've set myself up for really radical failure. We tried to get you out of it. I know. I made this way harder on myself than I needed to. So it's whoever answers first between the two of you.

By the way, the only reason I think I have a chance of Randall is going to play as well. Okay. If not, you should have stayed home. Speed answers give me a bit of anxiety. That's why I put it in here. Dr. Randall needs to be in it. By the way, the only reason I think I have a shot is because they're film related. Sure.

If they weren't film related, I'd be out. This is very deliberate. Okay, good. Yeah, it's not like aquifer questions. Okay, is everybody ready? Yes. This is question 707. Huh?

Huh? Who portrayed Jeremiah Johnson? I think I just said Did you even understand what they said? No That was Rob 100% Can I tell you something? Can I tell you something? Before you started the question And I'm not kidding

I almost said Jeremiah Johnson I literally almost did Thank you I literally almost did Before you started any question, and I'm not kidding, I almost said, Jeremiah Johnson. I literally almost did. I literally almost did. Before you started any question at all, because when you think of wilderness and film, Jeremiah Johnson, just Jeremiah Johnson. The next thing he's going to do is go, deer hunter.

Easy, easy. Careful. Now, did you even hear what their answer was? Mine was very clear. I was like this. Ask the engineer. It couldn't have been more clear. Was it all three of you were in on that?

No. Wait, wait. Here's our judge. Okay. No! I said brv. No, he had it. I went like this, which wasn't what you're supposed to do.

Yeah, I didn't actually come out with the name. Here's the full question. Who portrayed Jeremiah Johnson in the 1972 film Jeremiah Johnson? Can I see that? What do you got? I just want to see one of the cards. Do you know the answer, Rob? Robert Redford.

He already said that. He said Jeremiah. You said Jerm, and I was on it. Yeah. He gets the point. Seen that movie a thousand times. He gets the point. Seen that movie a thousand times. There you go. He's winning.

One to zero. You know what I like about that? One of the many things I like about that movie? I tried to explain to people. It's your favorite movie, right? Well. Can we just, it's very, it's very dated. Oh.

But that's what I like about it. But not within context of its genre mates. Oh, interesting. So it's dated, yes, but not if you line it up with Charlton Heston's The Mountain Men. Right. Then it seems like it was made in the future. Yeah. So it is, but there's a part of that movie I try to explain.

There's a part of the movie that's deeply sad. When he, in the end, Jeremiah Johnson, he's gone this killing spree. He winds up meeting his old mentor, Bearclaw, Chris Clap, Lap. And they're trying to figure out what month it is yes and you enjoy that oh it's just so sad man they look so defeated and sad they don't even happen to know what month it is would you it's a great speculating like i don't know march maybe it's a great moment it really is a great moment because you think

because you know you just it has that ring of authenticity of course they wouldn't of course yeah and just how withdrawn

like how withdrawn they've become yeah to have lost track of the calendar alone and withdrawn now the role of Jeremiah Johnson

was supposed to be played by Clint Eastwood, but Eastwood didn't get along with the director, so he decided to make Dirty Harry instead. Rob, you were just a boy when that came out. I saw it in the theaters, though. Really? Did you really? Sure. Yeah, absolutely. I remember it.

Back up for one cotton pick a minute. I've never heard this. The Clint Eastwood thing? Yeah. Here's what doesn't make sense. Redford directed Jeremiah Johnson. No, Sidney Pollack directed Jeremiah Johnson.

Oh, my God. Okay, see, I got screwed. You're right. Make that one of the questions. God damn it. I think before Clint Eastwood, it was supposed to be somebody else even. By the way, that is the most un-Sidney Pollack movie ever made. Oh, yeah.

It was just a freak out liar. Sidney Pollack. He made that movie. It was a freak out liar for him. Really? No kidding. Not Jackson Pollack movie ever made. Oh, yeah. It was just a freak outlier. Sidney Pollack. He made that movie. It was a freak outlier for him. Really? No kidding. Not Jackson Pollack.

Sidney Pollack. I would have believed Jackson Pollack. I really would have. What else would have you been seeing in the movie theater at that time? Oh, gosh. I was on a big red for that. I saw Butch Cassidy in the theater. That's, I think, 69.

The first movie I ever remember, well, other than kids' movies, like the first movie I ever saw was like the Aristocats or Chitty Chitty Bang Bang in the theaters. But the first like movie movie I remember seeing, I think it was Goldfinger. Wow. It's going back there. Yeah.

That's great. I want to back up for a minute because now I need to live with thinking if he had got the part. If he would have liked it more or less.

Well, I think it would have been equally as good. That's one of the rare ones where you go, usually go, oh, that would have been bad.

But like, I go, oh, I see that. That would have been good. Dirty Harry would have been different because it said he made Dirty Harry

instead of Jeremiah Johnson. Well, he sort of played, Clint Eastwood sort of played that a very similar role when the 90s, the author of The Education of Littletree had written Wallace's Segregation Now, Segregation Forever speech, but had this, like, wrote novels under a pseudonym. Clint Eastwood bought The Outlaw Josie Wales, was written by this Wallace segregationist speechwriter under a pseudonym. Clint Eastwood didn't even know it. Wow. this wallace segregationist speechwriter under a pseudonym clint eastwood didn't even know it wow when he bought the clint eastwood wasn't aware when he did outlaw josie wales but outlaw josie wales was has the same tonality to it so it could have been that if he had done jeremiah johnson it

wouldn't have like changed but you gather i don't really know i have i feel like when you watch jeremiah johnson i feel a little bit like i sense an ad-libbing quality to it that it was that it was maybe a little bit on the fly i don't know i don't really know if that's true but i feel like he would in some way made it redford doesn't strike me as an ad-libber oh he's not i don't know doesn't strike me as one but he says about three things. Yeah. I'm cold. What day is it? That's your best tidbit ever. What do you call them?

Factoids. That was the first question. We're going to get right on the point. Okay, so now we've learned something about the rules on that. Do we do ding, which you did, or just yell the answer like I did? I would prefer that we go like this. Ding. Okay, let's do that.

Okay. Because that gives us the ability to then say it clearly. Okay, great. Ready for the next question? This is question 251. Phil, I'm counting on you. By the way, we both have our hands up over a fake buzzer right now. Now, I know Steve and Randall are very competitive, and Rob, you've announced that you're competitive,

so this is a good mix. He came in hot. Yeah. He came in hot. Yeah. He came in hot. Here we go. Question 251. What 2007 Coen brother... Oh, boy.

What are you tapping about? No country for old men. That's right. Wow. Here's the full question so everybody can hear it. What are you tapping about? Oh, because this is anal. Coen Brothers. It's got an anal pun.

What 2007 Coen Brothers movie opens with Llewellyn Moss blood trailing a pronghorn? There's no country for old men. There you go. I was thinking 2007. I also have a sweet spot in terms of years. Okay.

Does this fall outside of that? And this falls outside. Obviously, I've seen No Country for Old Men multiple times, but it's not that, you know what I mean? It's like, I'm good at other things. I'm raising kids.

It's not like Jeremiah Johnson, where I was like, wow, I'm all of 10 years old. Wow. You know what I mean? I'm going to watch that four times this weekend. So do you think you would have come up with No Country for Old Men when you heard 2007 Coen Brothers movie?

I would have to do the math, which is my least, I'm horrible at math. So 2007, okay, so that would have been, but it's over. Too slow. But I would have gotten that for sure. I would have gotten it. Here's the factoid. Oh, yeah. Hit me with the factoid.

Then I want to hit you with a thing. No Country for Old Men is set in Terrell County, Texas in 1980. I couldn't find any antelope harvest report for Texas in 1980, but I could find one for 1979. That year there were only 1,300 antelope tags

given out and hunters had an 89% success rate. Now Llewellyn doesn't recover his antelope, so that means he would have been in the 11% of Texas hunters who didn't fill their tag that year. Yeah, I thought about that often. He just forgets about the goat. It didn't even happen.

When I watched that movie, that was my takeaway. It was that guy at the beginning did not fill his quota. In addition to his other problems being hunted down by anton sugar yeah and other you know being hunted by down by like a sociopathic uh-huh killer and and all that breaking wanton having his wife just killed so bad that the killer needs to like inspect the bottom of his boots afterward. Yeah. In addition to that, the official game would have been after him for wanton waste. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. It could have been a totally different movie where a game warden is also on his trail. That would have been amazing. Yeah. Yeah. That's actually an amazing version. They're like, I think we should write in a sociopathic game board. Or just like a nerd game board.

Like a total rules follower. Yeah, he's like, now, now. He makes appointments and stuff. Yeah, at that time, the antelope tags were only distributed to landowners, and then the landowners could do whatever they wanted with those tags. So in this situation, Llewellyn was hunting on private land that he would have been given a tag. There were 350 landowners that were given tag in 1979. So he would have received his tag from one of them and then went out and gut shot a pronghorn and then not recovered it. That is horrible because the thing is, I always celebrateinne mccarthy for how sure well how

tight everything is when this was in tarrell county which does not have a pronghorn season today so that's why i went back to 1980 well what you haven't explored is this that llewellyn moss doesn't give a shit no no llewellyn moss wants to hunt that's a good he's gonna hunt you know that's not like he what? That defeats whatever observation I can make. He's not like thumbing his tag. Yeah.

All right. So that point was for Randall. Here we go. Good job, Dr. Randall. This is question 41. Hands on your buzzers. What 1990 movie that

stars Tom Selleck follows a sharpshooting American cowboy? Oh, God. I know what it is cowboy? I know what it is now. Steve, we're giving it to Steve. I know what it is. Quigley Down Under. That's right. Here's the full question. What 1990 movie that stars Tom

Selleck follows a sharpshooting American cowboy who goes to Australia? Why does he go to Australia? Because he wouldn't be down under. Oh. What do you think about that, did you? Does he put out an ad? That's right.

The title would have been all wrong. That's right. Does he put out an ad to go to Australia, or does someone in Australia put out an ad that draws him? I don't remember what it is. See, I saw a clip, because I don't know if you remember, we did a spoof on a clip, and there's a clip where... There's a clip because I don't know if you remember, we did a spoof on, we did a spoof on a clip and there's like, there's a clip where there's a clip in which I think I know where you're going to reference.

Let me, let me read my factoid. Oh, in a 2013 article, field and stream declared that Quigley down under had the worst firearms related scene of all time. Here's what David Petzl said about the movie quote, the worst gun related scene is in quigley down under where

quigley takes his sharps 50 cal and after an elaborate ritual of doping the wind and adjusting his sight shoots a bucket way off on the horizon offhand give me a break and selick in real life is a serious hunter and devoted gun nut shame on him is that what you're going to refer to yeah he like makes a thousand yard shot. This is the hive mind here. This hive mind is happening. Yeah, this is a classic example because we filmed a spoof of it. Was it that scene you spoofed?

I was there for part of the spoof, but I wasn't in the spoof. But it was like a guy makes a big pitch about a gun. It's this, that, everything. Okay. I haven't seen that movie. How does that rank in your like, oh, you haven't seen it. I've never seen it. You know what I confuse it with is the man from Snowy River.

Oh, that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The guy that rides the horse downhill real bad. And you know what I confuse that with? The Gray Fox. I don't even know that one. Oh, Richard. What's his name

He's the one He's in the natural He's the assistant coach In the Richard Farnsworth Gray Fox No That's a good one for y'all

There's horse riding in it Yeah there's a lot of Rooting and tooting in it Oh Excellent So we got There's another I want

There's another movie That I just Thought of No no That's the same Yeah Not a movie there's another I want there's another movie that I just thought of no no that's the same yeah not a movie what was Magnum P.I.

it was a TV show TV show TV series yeah that was Tom Seller yeah mustaches Quigley mustache if I'm not

mistaken is a like a big handlebar mustache did he ever get sexiest man alive oh yes oh yeah probably five times for sure he's I think he's like a big handlebar mustache. Did he ever get sexiest man alive? Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. Probably five times. For sure.

I think he's... Otherwise, he'd be on that list. They only give it to you once, apparently. He's the only man I've ever met that had a hairier chest than me. Selig was selected as the sexiest man in the nation by a more than two to one ratio among those polled. But I don't know if this is a People magazine one.

That's not the same thing. That's like't know if this is a People magazine one. That's not the same thing. That's like the People's Choice Award. That's not, yeah. This is the Oscar. Nobody gives a shit about the People's Choice Award. He must have won it after Mr. Baseball. Well, so he was voted the sexiest actor alive,

which I think is a title that you've held before, right? I don't think I've held any of those titles. Oh, really? Okay. Sexiest actor alive. Boy, you're bringing up a lot of sore points here, Spencer. Yeah, why don't you talk about something that he did get? Yeah.

Jesus. I won the Golden Hanger Award. Dude just rubbing in all the stuff you haven't gotten. Exactly. So yeah, you didn't have a best actor, I don't believe. Yeah, how many Oscars you got? I think it was none. Let's take a minute and talk about the first Oscar you won.

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Yeah, this is a good game. Oh, it's neck and neck. This is question 117. What 1976 novel became a 1992 movie that heavily featured fly fishing in Montana? We had Rob. River runs through it. That is correct. Rob takes the lead.

For some reason, I was ready to slap down on True Grit. Oh, interesting. Charles Portis' novel becoming a... I thought of all the questions that I wouldn't have to get all the words through. This would be one of them. You guys needed every word. I was so far down a Charles Portis true grit. Couldn't get out of that.

Slabberhole. That I just was waiting to be verified. Yeah. And then the fly fishing shit caught me by surprise. Yeah. Now, River Runs Through, it was filmed in 1991 and was set in Missoula, Montana. I have some Rob Lowe trivia now.

That same year, our guest Rob Lowe was filming a movie with a co-star who was born in Missoula, Montana. Who? What film was Rob Lowe filming in 1991 that starred an actor who was born in Missoula, Montana? I think there's a chance Rob may not even get this. Do you know the answer? No, I know. Give me a minute because I know there's an actor.

I know it's J.K. Simmons. Right? Nope. I never worked with him. J.K. Simmons is from Missoula? Do you know the answer, Rob? I know what I was working on then, and I'm thinking... Okay, Steve's going to try to come up with an answer,

and then we'll let you take a stab at it. I just know that Missoula has a... No, no, no, no. I'm thinking one of the dudes from Pearl Jam was from Missoula. Jeff Amon based on it. I lived in Missoula for quite some time. He's from Big Sandy. He went to school in Missoula. So in from Big Sandy. He went to school

in Missoula. So in 1991, while A River Runs Through was being made, Rob was making a movie with someone who was born in Missoula. I know David Lynch is from Missoula, but he's not much of an actor. That's who I was trying to think. Yeah, he's great. But he puts himself in his own... Sometimes he's like

Tarantino, where he puts himself in his own movies. He does. Dude, he's in Tarantino where he puts himself in his own movies. He does. Dude, he's in that great Spielberg movie last year. Oh, The Fablemans? Oh, my God. He's the best thing in the movie. Yeah, he's great. I don't know that.

He plays John Ford. Okay. Do you have an answer, Rob? I do. What is it? Dana Carvey. That's right. Well done. Dana Carvey's from Missouri?

And Dana Carvey only lived there for three years. He was born there. He lived there until he was three and then moved away. Are you serious? Good on you, Rob. I'm very impressed. Why would I feel like he was Canadian? Well done.

Very impressed that you got that. Missoula is basically Canada. Same thing. Dana seems Canadian, doesn't he? How did you come to the conclusion that it was Dana and that it was Wayne's World? Because in 91, I knew I did Wayne's World in 91. And I'm thinking Mike is obviously famously, famously, famously from Toronto. Uh-huh.

And so could it be Dana? And I'm like, well, I don't know that he wasn't born there. Uh-huh. So I'm going with Dana. Good on you, Rob. So we only got one question left? Only have one question left. We're down by one.

This is the last question. I don't even have a tiebreaker if we need it. Uh-oh. You don't have a tiebreaker? I. Only have one question left. We're down by one. This is the last question. I don't even have a tiebreaker if we need it. You don't have a tiebreaker? I don't have a tiebreaker. Well, Rob will just get it right, and then it'll be done. You better come up with one. Okay, I'll think about it. You probably got a whole stash of them, don't you?

Yeah, we can get to that. We'll crack open the board game. All right, get your hands on your buzzers. Here we go. What 1996 movie has a character named Norm Gunderson, played by John Carroll Lynch, who gets second place in a duck stamp painting competition? Steve. Fargo. That's correct.

Fargo is right. Norm Gunderson. God damn it. Norm Gunderson. Yeah, it was- I should have known it by Norm Gunderson. God damn it. Norm Gunderson. Yeah, it was... I should have known it by Norm Gunderson. The director's to-be wife... Frances McDermott.

Frances McDermott's husband was a duck stamp painter. You're saying in the movie? In the movie. Yeah. Now, Norm Gunderson loses to Hotman, who is a real-life artist and one of the winningest competitors in the duck Stamp competition.

Here's Norm delivering the news to his wife. Can we play it? So good. I don't know where it's going to show up at. Oh, amazing. They announced it. They announced it? Yeah.

So? So? Three cent stamp. You're Mallard? Yeah. That's terrific. It's just the three cent. It's terrific. Hoffman's Blue Wing Teal got the 29 cent.

People don't much use the three cent. Oh, for peace. Of course they do. Whenever they raise the postage, people need the little stamps. Yeah? When they're stuck with a bunch of the old ones. Yeah. I guess. It's terrific.

I'm so proud of you, Norm. Heck, Norm, you know, we're doing pretty good. It's like watching Chester and his wife in bed at night. I was going to say, this is how I feel right now. Down one to both of you. That movie is absolutely spectacular but yeah it's just unbelievable the two things the two things i like most in that movie is when uh um what's his name he's out he's william h macy yeah yeah he's he's like he's a bit of an outdoorsman when william

h macy gets shot and that little down feather that comes out of his jacket it's just so upsetting right over his heart this little fluster and down it really is amazing isn't it

you could have it be like Quentin Tarantino would have had it be like gallons of blood but just this little down feather is somehow more, it's just more devastating. For sure. And the other thing is when that dude's trying to mark where he's got this money hidden, it's just this never ending highway. He takes that little stick and jabs that stick in the ground.

A little ice scraper or whatever. Yeah. Is that what it was? He looks, he's like, geez, it's going to be hard to find. So we had Steve and Rob tie with two points each. Randall does not get to go to the tiebreaker. Oh, Dr. Randall. Yeah.

Now in the game, when you go to a tiebreaker. What do you think about a guy like Dr. Randall over here? I was impressed. I mean, I'm very impressed with Dr. Randall. We have a lot in common. Yeah. Neither of us lot in common. Yeah. Neither of us is one sexiest man.

No. Now I'm going to hand these whiteboards to Steve and Rob. Busting out the whiteboards. Wow. We are going to a tiebreaker. This is going to be a numerical question. Whoever is closest between the two of you to the correct answer will be declared the winner. Here's the tie-breaking question.

Oh, wait. Hang on. What's happening here? So you're just going to write down your answer, and then you will wait to reveal until I tell you the truth. I think they sold you some faulty markers. Oh, no. Faulty markers. Okay, so we don't write it down now.

We wait until you do. You write it down, and then I'll tell you both to do it. No buzzer. Re-explain to him, because they might want to use this on the floor. Re-explain to him how this goes. Yeah, no one's ever thought of this before. It's a numerical question. This is an innovation.

Whoever is closest to the correct answer between the two of you will be declared the winner. Okay, great. Dude, I want to get on that game show so bad. Can you put in a word for me? I will. Let's go. Do you know anyone? I got you.

We do it. Here is the question. Let's go. Do you know anyone? I got you. We do it. Here is the question. What year was Jaws released in theaters? Really? Whoever is closest. Robert wrote down very quickly. Hide your answer, Rob. We don't need Steve cheating.

How confident are you, Rob, that you have this close to the correct answer? Don't give out any hints. I'm pretty sure. Pretty sure. Steve, how do how do you feel about it it's one of two years okay i'm within i'm within for sure it's one of two years i'm within 100 i'm within four within four oh thanks he's within one or two yeah look can i tell you something real quick about you know you had a story about what was your what's your story about like an early film experience going to a movie? Butch Cassidy? Yeah.

Goldfinger? So I remember going to where I grew up in Muskegon County, Michigan. We had a theater, I don't think it's there anymore, called Harbor Theater. It was right on Muskegon Lake. And I remember, this is a very, very early memory of mine. I remember pulling up with my family at Harbor Theater and Empire Strikes Back was playing. And I remember saying, looking at the billboard, the marquee, and saying, that says Empire Strikes Back. And my brother's attacking me, saying, you can't read that.

You just know that that's what that says. That's a good memory. That is, though. That's when you're not going to forget. Do you know what I mean? It was like so little that I was at that very precise moment when you can't read, but recognize words yeah wow yes yeah i could and that cuts you to your core they shamed you with me stamped you stayed with me now before you can't read that you just know what it says see your body holds shame yeah it holds it which

i could totally picture my kids like a i could picture my kids attacking one another about something like that. Just making sure everybody's putting their place. What would your reaction be if you heard one kid say that to the other at this point in your life? I would say, is it really necessary just to always... Does everybody have to be putting their place every morning over breakfast? And then what would they say? They wouldn't take that on. They just yeah they wouldn't wrestle with that one now steve how many times have you seen jaws man i don't think i've seen it more than once probably what because it's so it's just so

inescapable to i mean to sit down and watch it through no No. I like your chances, you're up. How many times do you think you've seen it? 50. Oh. Okay. But how many times did he watch through to the end to see what you hear? Yeah. No, no, by the way, I'm now 100% certain I have it right.

Okay, the pendulum has shifted. Well, I might have it too. You might need a second thing. Okay, go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Steve saying 1979. Oh, not even close. Way off. We have... What's your answer, Rob? Wait a minute. You thought you couldn't read? Oh, not even close. Way off. We have...

What's your answer, Rob? Wait a minute. You thought you couldn't read? Oh, you know... That's the thing. You know what year he couldn't read, and that's how he did it. No, not Jaws. That was Empire Strikes Back.

Rob, what is your answer? The correct one, which is 1975. The correct answer is 1975. Right on the nose. Whoa, I'd like to revisit this. Because when I said I was within four years. See, this is also. Oh, that's true.

So if you take four years off, that puts me right at the right answer. 1983. So weirdly, I got it right. Unfortunately, that wasn't the question in what you were striving for. Well done, Rob. You're keeping it in my sweet spot, right?

You start getting into like in 1997, I'm like, I'm done. Too many other interests. Thanks for playing. Good on you. I think I acquitted myself, okay? And listen, I'm way excited. I know it's a little early to call this a promo for your show, but I'm very excited for the show.

It's fun. It's really, really good. It's like great play along. You can watch it and just have a blast. You can compete with your family. Yeah, totally. More competition. Maybe we should have a viewing party, Dr. Randall. Yeah, that'd be a lot of fun. Now, this copy of the board game is yours, Rob. Oh, thank you. You have one

of the only ones in the world. This doesn't come out until November. Does this have two then? No, that stays with me. But that is yours. That's sealed. And all those questions you just heard are actually from the board game. They're the only questions So you have a leg up

when you play your kids. We're going to spoil. That's right. Just so you know, kids, I've done three of these. Sadly, now I think you've heard almost all the cinema questions in the game.

It was worth it. Those are good cinema questions. Thank you. Do you think any of them would be worthy of the floor? All of them. Oh, really? That's the kind of thing?

That's the flavor? Good. A high compliment. I think that the duck one might be too, I don't know. You got to hit the right thing. They can't be too obscure. Oh, and if they're obscure, they have to have the aha at the end of it. Where the viewer goes, I have no idea.

I could guess for a thousand years and not have an idea. And then when they hear the answer, they go, oh, of course. Like that's the sweet spot. What Spencer doesn't like, Spencer doesn't like trick questions. Me neither. And he doesn't like questions that, a lot of people submit questions and they think like, here's one no one will know. It's like, well, that's not hard. That's not hard.

You know, like, how many hairs around a dog? You know, it's like, where did I catch my first fish? Alright. Rob Lowe, thank you very much. Thank you. Appreciate you coming out of the show, man. Thanks for playing. Enjoy your board game and good luck with the show. and i will be watching in my email for for for my invite

for me and dr randall to come down and participate and all you're i'm gonna want to have a lot of input on what squares are there though tell the producers love it tell the producers it's gonna wind up being just a couple there's gonna be a couple squares we would love it you want to have a home field advantage instead of wild animals there's gonna be a couple squares. We would love it. You want to have a home field advantage? Instead of wild animals, there's going to be a square mammals. There's going to be a square invertebrates. Invertebrates. Invertebrates. Invertebrates would actually be really amazing.

I'd like to meet that guy, whoever occupies the invertebrate square. I'm for the invertebrates. You just know how you, right? I'm sure you assembled quite a cast of characters. Oh, for sure. I mean, by the way, all you listeners, you got to listen to my podcast. I want all you guys to be listening to Literally.

Literally, wherever you get your podcast. I mean, got everybody in the world on my show. If you like this, you'll hate it. No, I'm kidding. If you like this, you'll love it. Tell people more like what if you were going to hold out an episode as being a shining example yeah who would you suggest and kind of knowing a little bit about what our subject matter who should they go listen to oh boy chris pratt is great oh chris fish together yeah we we fish together he's into ag Oh he's really He's super into

I mean he has His own farm He has You know He'll go This is the lamb Off of my farm You know we have

Thanksgivings together And he has all the meats You know It's He's really really into it Okay so go to Rob Lowe's Literally Yeah

You get all Pull up the Chris Pratt Episode in Dig in And then When you finish listening to that Wait a year or so and you can watch the floor.

And then in two years, you'll be able to watch me and Dr. Randall clean that floor up. Mop the floor. I'm already salivating at the opportunity. We're going to be standing together on a little square in the end. We can go back to back on the same square.

So good. I got to tie up a loose end real quick. Yeah, go ahead. Here's a headline. It says, Rob Lowe named sexiest actor alive. Oh, there you go. But then it has a retraction and says, this story seems to be false. It doesn't say that.

Right here, Corinne. It says in red letters, update. And the update is from today, which I don't even understand how, like, I feel like I'm being played here. It says from September 26, 2023, this story seems to be false. This is probably some weird. Well, first of all, let's just take a second and unpack. Uh-huh.

This story seems to be false, what that really means. Are you serious? Show the screen. It says, I'll read you the words. Rob Lowe, 59, has been dubbed the sexiest actor alive by Glamour's magazine in its October 2023 issue out this week. And then right below that, before the rest of the thing continues, it says, update, this story seems to be false. You're in like a weird, like, you don't have the government spies on you. I feel like this is going to give me viruses. You have like a weird.

Oh, yeah, I'm going to get viruses from this website. From that you got viruses? We're going to get you to win one of these. I've had the PhD thing hanging over my head in this podcast realm. But thank God it's not the sexiest man alive. No, that's all. Runner up. But thank God it's not the sexiest man alive. No, that's a runner-up. To have to withstand the criticism about your PhD is a lot, is preferable to not being dubbed. I don't even want to say it anymore.

Heavy life to drown. This seems to be false. So somebody, I think they clearly were like, I'm not going to let go of this anytime easily. Somebody was like, no, no, that can't be right. They took a look at me. That can't be right. Yeah. We can't disprove it, but it seems highly unlikely.

See, yeah, that's the only takeaway I can get from that. Yeah. Forward the link over. Okay. We can parse this probably for quite some time. But we're not going to. I got to get the phone to Glamour magazine and find out. I had a friend who used to work there, actually.

Genevieve. Well, I will just say, listen, at the end of the day, I'd rather win it from glamour than people. Glamour in and of itself says glamorous, right? Yeah, no, it's a good association. And people's like, you know, whatever. They'll do anything for a buck.

Yeah. All right, Rob Lowe, once again, thanks for coming on the show. Trivia champion. Oh, yeah. Oh, maybe next. We're going to let him go. Trivia champion. Oh, yeah. Oh, maybe next year you can come to our world championship. Oh, yeah. It's way too soon.

We're going to have to bleep that out. Oh, bleep it out. Like Rob's show, it doesn't come out yet. It doesn't come out yet. Who won your show? I can't tell you that. Wouldn't that be just the worst if you mentioned it? All right, let's wrap it up. Oh, ride on, ride on, let it fly on.

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