The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 585: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CXXV

Episode Date: August 14, 2024

Randall Williams guest hosts MeatEater Trivia with Spencer Neuharth, Janis Putelis, Ryan Callaghan, Cory Calkins, Tressa Croaker, Reva Hansen, Logan Dove, and Alec Zimmer. Connect with MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and Youtube Clips Subscribe to our new MeatEater Podcast Network on YouTube Shop Trivia MerchSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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without cell phone service as a special offer. You can get a free three months to try out OnX if you visit onxmaps.com slash meat. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I am not your host, Spencer Newharth. Instead, I'm your guest host, Randall Williams, Dr. Randall Williams. And today we're joined by Giannis, Cal, Spencer, Corey, Reva, Tressa, Logan, and Alex Zimmer. Now, Alex, this is your first time playing trivia on the podcast.

Why don't you tell folks what you do here at MeatEater? I am the store manager at the flagship MeatEater store here in downtown Bozeman. We just opened the store here in April and we have kick-started it and got it up and going and we've been having a good show of customers coming out and seeing the store. So if you're in town, come by and check us out. We have a lot of the new gear and some sweet swag that you can pick up and wear and show your support for us. Anything unique just to the store? We have this certain bison skull that has a hole in it. So if you want to get your picture on some of our social content or just send in a picture,

come in and stick your finger in the bison and you can take a picture. I was hoping you were going to say, like, yeah, we have these hats that are only available at the store. And I'm going to warn our audience that you revealed to us only moments before that the bison skull has only been cleaned once since people started sticking their fingers. Sorry. Disinfected. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so you might want to wash your hands after that or carry

hand sanitizer. But depending on how this goes today for you, folks can stop in and either congratulate you or offer some constructive feedback. Absolutely. I'm looking for it. Opening night when I was at the store, there was a line. It was pretty long, like around the block. And as I was crossing the street,

I was standing next to another couple and and uh the guy saw the name and he said he was like damn that must be a good steakhouse so how often are people coming in and like have no idea what meat eater is it's actually quite a few people every day that come in and think we are a restaurant or like a meat store that think we sell meat and it probably is at least two to three people every day that come in and think it's a meat store. We should sell some meat. We really should have thought about that before we named the company. I thought we were going to sell some Northridge bison down there.

I thought when they sell earthworms. Yeah. Yeah. I got bait. I do like the, there should be kind of something for you got your freeze dried food. You got a little bit of stuff. So if you want to find swag, you can get...

Honey stingers. Yeah. Yeah. There's a little bit of food. A lot of things you can walk out with. Absolutely. Now, as you know, this is a 10-round quiz show with questions from meat eaters for Verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking.

And there is a prize. MeatEater will donate $500 to the conservation organization of the winner's choosing. Now, for the stat of the week this week, we're looking at player performance from the last time I hosted an episode, which, as we know, was back in November of 2023. The winner that day was a man who shall not be named since I am sitting in the host seat today, and that individual had seven correct answers. The average score was a 3.75. The low score was one. And our guest, pro golfer Brian the Butcher Harmon, got four correct answers.

That episode had one 100 percenter and one zero percenter. And since we don't have any housekeeping today we will revisit that zero percenter this question was from episode 495 the topic was wildlife and nobody got it right ready jack olson's classic 1969 book the night of the grizzlies which details the fatal maulings of two young women in glacier national park was originally a three-part article for what popular magazine? Sports Illustrated. Oh. Oh.

Were you here that day, Corey? Corey nailed it. You got one right? That was me. That was good. The incorrect answers given that day were Field and Stream, Nat Geo, Outdoor Life, and Time Magazine. I'm impressed by that. Well done.

Thank you. It's a good start. So here's our infrequently asked questions segment. If you have a trivia-related question for our crew, please send it to trivia at themeateater.com with the subject line IFAQ. Dustin Schuett wants to know, does Dr. Randall do better when Brody isn't present for trivia? It seems like he does. I think Dr. Randall is more nervous when Brody is there. I don't really know how to address this one.

I think it's probably safe to say as a statistical reality that Dr. Randall does do better when Brody isn't present for trivia. But I'm not sure I'd like to give Brody the power of saying that he makes me nervous. I think it's just sort of knowing that the stakes are high and any sort of slip up on my part could result in a catastrophic,

disappointing defeat. Yeah. Randall makes Randall nervous. I do. Randall makes Randall nervous. That's well put. I don't think of myself as a particularly nervous individual, but I just like to have fun, you know, keep it lively.

Sometimes it looks like you're not having fun, though. It's all fun. This is a joy. Every time I step into this room, it's the best. Now, transition. The Sydney Index for today is a a four so our winner should get eight correct answers and in fact i think there's the potential for a perfect game so with that we are on to the game of trivia phil please play the drop

look i need to know what i stand to win everything how's that just stand to win. Everything. How's that? You stand to win everything. Game on, suckers! Question one. This question falls under the category of woodsmanship. What seven-letter term refers to a type of forest that resembles a corridor of trees typically cottonwoods and willows in western north america along the edges

of rivers what and the it's a multiple choice question the four answers are gallery bankhead belt and tunnel i think I know the answer Yeah Do you know the answer? Yes I do Oh yeah Rand I'm sorry I'm not gonna

I'm not gonna say anymore But yeah I think I got it I didn't catch this I didn't know the answer Until you asked the question Yeah then I knew it Oh shit You got this one right as well Okay yeah I'm pretty confident You asked the question. Yeah, then I knew it. Oh, shit.

You got this one right as well, Riva? Okay, yeah. I'm pretty confident. Let's not spoil it for the listeners at home. Uh-oh. Yeah. Or don't spoil it to anybody that hasn't caught on yet. Yeah. What seven-letter term refers to a type of forest that resembles a corridor of trees, typically cottonwoods and willows

in western North America, along the edges of rivers. Thank you for the hint. I suspect this wasn't a multiple choice question and then at some point you're like, this one's too hard, I should make this multiple choice. You don't have to tell me now. Spencer, you're exactly right.

You're exactly right. Good question. I wish it wasn't multiple choice. I, you know, I thought a couple of people would know it, but. Well, this is just off to a great start. It is for the players. I've killed a pile of squirrels in cottonwood. I will, I will say for our listeners again, the answers are gallery, bankhead, belt, or tunnel.

We all have answers at the table here, I presume. As you guessed, the correct answer is this. Oh, I'm sorry. Tressa has gallery. Logan has gallery. Corey has gallery. Spencer has gallery. Cal has gallery. Alec has gallery. Reva has gallery corey has gallery spencer has gallery korea has gallery underscores

alex has gallery reeve has gallery and yannis has gallery come on the only seven letter term among those four answer options is a gallery the whole room did remarkably well it could be 100 i'm gonna do that in the kids episode sometime that That's a great trick. This is just a test to see how closely you're paying attention to me. Gallery forests in the American West occur along major rivers and streams from southern Saskatchewan to northern Texas, and from the Rocky Mountains to the western borders of Minnesota and Iowa and eastern Kansas. Gallery forests grow in narrow strips that generally range from 30 feet to 400 feet in width, and rarely more than 10 to 15 feet above the river level. Some of the major watersheds associated with this forest type are the Arkansas, the Kansas, the Platte, the Niobrara, the Missouri, the Red, and the Milk Rivers.

Now, who would have gotten that answer correct had I not revealed not revealed it in my in my question janice yana stands alone well sorry to do that to you last episode uh randall tried to make a declaration about pulling a kelsey which is like when you reveal an answer uh but now randall's done it twice oh back-to-back weeks once is the host uh i think it's yeah pulling it i'm just glad it was the first question so we can start this episode up on a off host, I think it's, yeah, pulling a Dr. Randy. I'm just glad it was the first question, so we can start this episode off on a good note. It's snappier if you say it's pulling a Randy. Question two.

This question falls under the category of fishing. What fishing tackle brand, known primarily for its lead split shot, takes part of its two-word name from a mischievous mythical creature. Again, what fishing tackle brand

known primarily for its lead split shot takes part of its two-word name from a mischievous mythical creature. I really like this question. I'd like it more if I knew it. I only know one part. I can basically tell you the taste. When you tuck those babies into your lip.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, they just fit so nicely between your teeth. Giannis has an answer. Cal has an answer. Corey, Tressa, Logan has an answer. Does my answer have to have two words? I would hope so just make it true riva's still looking for an answer alec and spencer i mean there's something on my board

are we uh are we ready to flip our boards over do we want to give it another minute here flip them it's not gonna come to me cal says let's flip them gang let's flip them over treza says argyle lures logan says eagle claw corey gnome shot spencer gnome weights cal says water gremlin alex says gremlin riva says Medusa tackle, and Yanis says water gremlin. Cal and Yanis got it right. Water gremlin. A gremlin is a mischievous creature that causes trouble in mechanical and electrical systems and became popular among aviators in World War II as a way of explaining aircraft malfunctions. The Water Gremlin Company of White Bear Township, Minnesota, was founded in 1949 as a manufacturer of recreational fishing products.

In recent years, it has been involved in a number of pollution and workplace safety scandals. And in 2023, it filed for bankruptcy as a result of 95 civil lawsuits holding Water Gremlin accountable for emitting excessive amounts of the carcinogenic chemical TCE, which has been linked to chronic illnesses, cancer, and wrongful deaths in the surrounding community. And Cal can taste them. Yeah. Not a sponsor of me, Dieter, either, I take. No, they filed for bankruptcy. Walmart pulled them from their

shelves, I think, prior to that, and so I was unaware of that until I started doing my research here, but learned something new every day. Question three. This is our listener question of the week, which was won by Jeff Tucker for sending this great question. Jeff is going to get a board game signed by the crew. If you want a chance to win the listener question of the week, then send your question to trivia at themeateater.com. This category, this question falls under the category

of conservation. What 19th century English naturalist, while circumnavigating the world, described the meat roasted from the breastplate of giant tortoises as, quote, very good? Nope. Apologies. Again, what 19th century English naturalist, while circumnavigating the world, described the meat roasted from the breastplate of giant tortoises as very good. Cal's got an answer. I do have an answer. Mmm.

A hot start for Cal here. Is it because I know it, or is it because I only know one English naturalist? Well. Right. I don't know. Yeah. I wish I could think of one English naturalist. Well, right. I don't know. I wish I could think of one English naturalist. Yeah, I wish that was a helpful hint, but it's not.

Phil, what role do gremlins play in the supernatural worlds that you are involved with? I only know most of my lore comes from the Joee dante film is that movie called gremlins yes it is but don't get them wet don't feed them after midnight yeah there's tons of rules honestly there is a pretty cool for anyone in the greater bozeman metropolitan

area there's a great i think someone talked about this is the second time we've plugged yeah there's a cool mythical creatures exhibit at the museum right now. Oh, I saw it. From like all different cultures from all around the world. And I was just there for the second time because I have children. And I don't remember Gremlin being there, but maybe it is. It's a recent invention.

Phil, is that where you can see the axolotl? I assumed it was there. No, that's at the Montana Science Center. We're cross-pollinating our references here. When I first heard about the mythical creature exhibit, I was pretty disappointed in the Museum of the Rockies. We talked about this, Janus, but

then when we went, I was relieved to see how they tied it into real creatures that probably were the genesis of the myths. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Looks like most folks, Giannis still has a blank board here.

Riva, do you have an answer? Alec? No. We're going to wait on Giannis here. He's scrawling something. Big word. Are we ready to flip it over? Let's flip our boards.

Tressa says, Meriwether Lewis, Logan, Charles Darwin, Corey, Are we ready to flip it over? Let's flip our boards. That's what I wrote. Tressa says Meriwether Lewis, Logan, Charles Darwin, Corey, Magellan, Spencer, Darwin, Cal, Darwin, Alec Blank, Reva Darwin, Giannis Audubon. The correct answer is Charles Darwin. A couple context clues there. Giant tortoises circumnavigating the world. When Darwin arrived in the Galapagos Islands aboard the HMS Beagle

in the fall of 1835, he noted that the inhabitants' staple food of giant tortoises meant that they could count on, quote, two days hunting giving them food for the rest of the week. The local custom, according to Darwin, was to capture a live tortoise and to make a slit in the skin near its tail.

This was done in order to take stock of the animal's fat reserves under its top shell, as the fat was highly valued for rendering into a clear oil. If a tortoise was determined to be too lean to supply a decent amount of oil, the hunters would simply let it walk away to recover from the, as Darwin described it quote strange operation effective though effective and and I appreciate that Jeff Tucker was thoughtful

enough to include a PDF of scan of pages from his copy of voyage of the HMS Beagle so we could get that that that tasty little tidbit there mm-hmmhmm. All right. Catch and release tortoise. And they actually, it was very common for ships traveling the Pacific to just grab hundreds of them and stick them in the hull so they could have fresh meat for the rest of their voyage. Because tortoises live for a long time. Spencer, if you were a 4-H kid showing off a pig, one of the tests that they do is they poke along the spine of the pig to see if you allowed that critter to get too fat. Because you want that good meat-to-fat ratio. What are they poking them with?

Just your fingers. But, you know, a tortoise happens to have a real hard shell up there. So what are you going to do? Got to look under the hood. Hey, folks, exciting news for those who live or hunt in Canada. And boy, my goodness do we hear from the Canadians whenever we do a raffle or a sweepstakes. And our raffle and sweepstakes law makes it that they can't join. Our northern brothers get irritated.

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individual animals of what big game species? The 1996 film The Ghost and the Darkness starring Val Kilmer and Michael Douglas depicts an 1898 hunt for two individual animals of what big game species? Like these are two different species? Well, you should read the book and figure it out. It's a film. Well, I'll get into that. And I apologize,

Phil, I sent you the wrong spelling of Michael Douglas. My autocorrect wanted to add a second S. If you couldn't tell from the first question, Randall, I just copy and paste. I don't actually read these things. Must we bring that back? No quality control anymore. I think we've all moved on from that, Bill.

Has anybody seen The Ghost in the Darkness? Yep. Great movie. Many times. What's the pottery throwing scene from some movie that people reference? Isn't that Ghost? That's not the same thing. I just live corrected it for you.

No, Ghost is not the same as the Ghost in the Dark. Ghost with Patrick Swayze is not the same as... Although they're throwing pottery, that sounds more fun. And Swayze are sort of the same genre of hunk. Val Kilmer, I believe, was fresh off his turn

as the Caped Crusader in Batman Forever when he filmed this movie. There's a great scene about you don't go using an unproven rifle. Heart of Darkness. So they hunted this animal with a rifle.

Whale Zorro. Alex, writing an answer here. Reva, you've got your answer? Give Alec another second here. I've read the book, too, and I can't 100%. It's down between two species. Why don't we flip those boards over? Tressa says bears. Logan says bear.

Corey, African lion. Spencer, wolf. Cal says African lion. Alex says elk. Reva says elk. And Giannis says African lion. I love how everybody put the proper lion on. Oh, yeah. The everybody put the proper lion.

Oh, yeah. The title of the film references the nicknames of two lions that killed at least 28 and perhaps as many as 70 based on the book The Maneaters of Savo, written by real-life British Army officer and hunter John Henry Patterson, who's played by Kilmer. Douglas plays a fictionalized American big-game hunter named Charles Remington, who's recruited to bring an end to the lion's bloody depredations. Roger Ebert said the film was so awful it, quote, lacked the usual charm of being so bad it's funny, and added that it was, quote, lacked the usual charm of being so bad it's funny

and added that it was, quote, an African adventure that makes the Tarzan movies look subtle and realistic. And Phil, it's my understanding that we have the trailer that we can share with our contestants here. Oh, perfect. And feel free to cut it off when you think we've seen enough. I know it's long.

Aren't these two lions in a museum in chicago yeah field museum i've seen them never seen them i hear they're big oh my god lions don't do this lions never had a layer like this they're doing it for the pleasure they are not lions they are the ghost and the darkness don't end this Phil we're in a race colonel and the prize is the continent of Africa

we are building the most expensive and daring railroad in history for the glorious purpose of saving Africa from the Africans and of course to end slavery how many do you think they've killed 100 maybe more do we wish the world to think that guy sucked because of a few minor difficulties with the local wildlife are you sure this was a lion

i'm going to locate remington i assume you've heard of him difficulties with the local wildlife are you sure this was a lion i'm going to locate remington i assume you've heard of him have you see a problem with that actually no let's go after him there are so many cuts in this trailer do we ever see a lion that's what gets you Spencer they move so fast then why do they're not lying through the ghost in the darkness because I've got a gift. Shoot him!

Michael Douglas. Val Kilmer. The Ghost and the Darkness. Wow. Okay. Thank you, Phil. What accent are they supposed to have there? Oh. Oh, man.

You know, I'm not quite sure. I think they're all British. Well, it's peak colonization, so you're going to have a mix of cultures there. Yeah, but Cal's right. That one fellow, he always, I don't know the name of the actor, but he always plays a real imperious snobby official. Yeah, thinks he knows better a real imperious snobby official.

Thinks he knows better than everybody. Question five. What large non-native game bird found in Nevada's Ruby Mountains can be located by its high-pitched whistling sounds and has been described as an upland hunter's holy grail

due to the challenging terrain in which it lives? I'll read that one again. What large non-native game bird found in Nevada's Ruby Mountains can be located by its high-pitched whistling sounds and has been

described as an upland hunter's holy grail due to the challenging terrain in which it lives. Phil, this is one of those questions that I tried to slim down rail due to the challenging terrain in which it lives. Phil, this is one of those questions that I tried to slim down and squeeze a few words out of, but I wanted to just get some clues in there, you know? Giannis is a Grand Slam turkey hunter. What turkey species is this? The clue is it's not a turkey species.

Cal's throwing out a little misdirection. Cal's got an answer. There's that one turkey that doesn't gobble. Logar's got an answer. I've heard someone talk about this, but I don't know if it's right. Meteor has multiple times thought about, researched,

looked at doing an episode around this non-native game bird, but he has yet to pull the trigger on doing it. Well, it's an imposing topography there. That's right. The Swiss Alps of North America, they call it. Very low success rate.

Mm-hmm. I know a lot of guys that do it a real easy way. Will you reveal that trick to us once we're done recording? Baiting? I don't want to give anything away here. Okay. Are you going to tell us after we reveal our answers? Yeah.

They wrote on them. Must be it. Corey, I see you've got a blank board there. I can see what the animal looks like, but I can't come up with the name. Tressa, you've got an answer. And I'm not an artist. Feeling good? No.

Alec? No. Reva? Come on, Reva. I can't even think of a funny guess. African lion. They're all funny guesses. That's not it. Corey's written something down, but he doesn't like it.

No. It's not correct. I thought this was one you'd know. I do know it it and i'll tell you the answer when we reveal our answer oh gang are we ready to flip those boards let's do it tressa says rough grouse logan says chucker corey says russian ptarmigan spencer himalayan snowcock cal snowcock alec is not an answer reeve is not an answer and yannis says himalayan snowcock we've got a correct answer in the room it's himalayan snowcock spencer and yannis got that cal says snowcock i'm gonna i know i know exactly what it is i think we giving it to you let's go to Cal they share an office so there's some politics

yeah that's true I mean Corey had the construction down happy life Russian ptarmigan him a little snow cock you knew the potato potato for right depends on where you're from yeah let's let's Happy life. A Russian ptarmigan, a Himalayan snowcock. You knew what you were calling for, right? Depends on where you're from, obviously. Yeah, let's count snowcock there. A member of the pheasant family, Himalayan snowcock evolved to survive in alpine meadows and on steep, rocky cliffs in Central and South Asia, but were introduced to the Rui Mountains in 1963.

The Nevada Fish and Game Commission secured the original birds for a captive breeding program from Pakistan and by the early 1980s the species had taken permanent hold in the rugged terrain of the rubies Himalayan snowcock roost at elevations up to 11,000 feet and males can weigh up to 7 pounds The daily bag limit is two birds. Now, how does someone hunt these things with ease? Known some miners is two birds now how does someone hunt these things with these um i've known some uh miners underground hard rock miners there and and they uh there's snow on the ground they're riding their snowmobiles and they just rip up there and eventually shoot one does any other place have them besides nevada that's it not in Not in North America. I think there's another subsidiary range in Nevada that might have them.

But yeah, that's it. Nevada and obviously Asia. With that, we're now halfway through our game of trivia. Phil, can I please have a score update? You can indeed. Wow. We've got Tressa and Alec on with their, they got number one right. They got one point apiece.

We got Logan and- It's the boat ramp fish. Logan, Reva, and Corey all have two points. Spencer's got three. Giannis has four. And in first place, with a perfect game, holy cow, it's Ryan Callahan. Oh, if you get a perfect game right now, there's going to be some questions about it.

I'll remind everyone. They share an office. Conflicts of interest. As you say with Shelby, she knows you. And Cal knows me. He could hear you watching the trailer to the Ghost in the Dark. I did make sure to close it out when he walked in today.

And then immediately going on Reddit to read about it for three hours. Question six. This question falls under the category of cooking. What regional style of hot dog, which shares its name with North America's second largest hot desert, typically comes wrapped in bacon with pinto beans, chopped tomatoes, grilled onions and peppers, mustard, jalapeno sauce, and mayo. Wow.

I'll read that again. What regional style of hot dog, which shares its name with North America's second largest hot desert, typically comes wrapped in bacon with pinto beans, chopped tomatoes, grilled onions and peppers, mustard, jalapeno sauce, and mayo. God, it's making me hungry. Oh, it's good. And I added, I'd like to point out that even if you're not familiar with your tube steak variations,

I added that little note at the top so if you know your deserts, you have a chance. You got this one, Yanni? Yes, sir. Did you need the desert hint? No one looks happy with this question. You didn't need the desert hint.

No, I've eaten quite a few of these. Okay. Down in Tucson, Arizona. All right. What are you doing? Was it any of the closest? Oh, you know what? That just gave it to me.

I think. No, I didn't give it to you. Yeah, you did. No, I didn't. No, I didn't give it to you. Yeah, you did. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. Yep. Oh, brutal. Shut up.

No, I didn't. Give me more. Cal's looking at Giannis like he wants another clue. That's enough. You've told me enough. The restaurant we've eaten there a couple of times, Steve's always like very disappointed. Everybody else loves it.

Yeah, it's great. Have you found that they include two uh wieners sometimes yeah i've never really seen that in it with any other hot dog any day are they like a ballpark frank like uh the the cheapest 99 cent hot dog yeah but i think they're a little skinnier if you're referring to like a uh the brand ballpark i think they're a little skinnier than okay looks like we've got answers why can't i remember that restaurant i can't remember the name of the restaurant thank you yeah alec riva sure i've never this is too fancy of a hot dog so i i've never gone actually eaten this one but do you have an answer yeah i do okay i don't i don't think it's right but let's flip those

boards over gang tressa says death valley logan nevada dogs cory mojave dog spencer sonoran dog cal sonora dog alec nothing riva sierra janice sonoran the correct answer is Sonoran Dog. Sonoran Dogs were invented in the Sonora region of northern Mexico and arrived in Tucson in the 1980s. Although they remain a local speciality in Arizona, today you can find them served anywhere from Austin, Texas to Los Angeles. In addition to their unique blend of toppings, these tasty treats are known for the sweet pillowy buns that almost completely engulf the Frankfurter.

El Guero Canelo. There you go. That's a cool place. Multiple locations there in Tucson. Highly recommend you go get a Sonoran dog there. I'd like to do that. James Beard, nominee, I believe. I don't know if they're a winner,

but I think they're nominee. In preparation for this round of trivia, I think I read about that place. We're on to question seven. This question falls under the category of fishing. What style of fly fishing, first made famous in international competitions, makes use of extra long rods, extra long thin leaders, and heavy flies with no split shot or strike indicator? I'll read that again. I thought fly fishing was the style this is a niche a niche style yana says an answer spencer has an answer cal's writing

dress has got an answer logan's got an answer uh you're you're messing me up with the perfect flies he's got a perfect game going over here oh let's just go with weighted flies cal oh wow okay specific handing out hints to his office handing it out well i just it is imprecisely the hint goes to everybody yeah so that's that's pretty nice you're welcome i guess is what I'm saying. Corey, how are you feeling there? Pretty good. How are you doing? Good, good. I'm great. Good. What's the hat you're wearing, Tressa? It's from Stanley, Idaho.

It's a sawtooth mercantile. Oh, a merc. Oh, I thought that was a T. Oh. Was that that like gas station that has breakfast? Oh yeah, that place is good. That's right. When we come out of the whatever that place is good. That's right, when we come out of the whatever that place is called. Tuxedo? Penguin? Place, Cal, where we've had the first life meetings?

He's thinking. Anyways. Sawtooth Bakery is also a great stop. With the Sonoran dog, do they wrap the hot dog in bacon? Yes, they do. That's a good move. It was bizarre. I felt like half the ones I got,? Yes, they do. I think. That's a good move. Yeah. But yeah, it was bizarre.

Like, I felt like half the ones I got, there were two hot dogs. Hmm. Hmm. Which, I mean, if we're

intermixing and adopting different culinary traditions, I would recommend to others. Kind of while we're letting Cal think, on this little segue from snorting hot dogs, since there's mayo in there,

have you guys tried that Korean mayo that's at Costco now? I think it's called... Kewpie? Kewpie. Yeah, it's pretty tasty, huh? I thought that's Japanese. Maybe it is Japanese. I thought I heard Cal sing their praises.

You like their barbecue sauce or something? Yeah, I've had the barbecue. That's not a QP. That's Bachan. With the little octopus. Which is actually American. Is that stuff also at Costco? It is.

Yes, because that's where I buy it. We're a big Kinder's family. Get a lot of the things of the Kinder's condiments. Big fan of those. They make mayonnaise? They make everything. i don't know if they make mayo but they make like uh you know like a comeback sauce or like uh and some sort of aioli which is just mayo with i think garlic and lemon or a lot of places getting and companies

getting free advertisement on this episode yeah where do you buy this kinder are you any grocery store ever are you uh Have you made your decision? Yeah, I'm good enough. Let's flip over, gang. That's what I was thinking, is the thing that they do down in the truckie all the time. Tressa's got spay. Logan says spay fishing. Corey says spay. Spencer says euro nymphing.

Cal says spay. Got nothing. Nothing, nothing. And Giannis says check nymphing. The says spay. Got nothing. Nothing, nothing. And Janice says checknymphing. The answer is euronymphing, but we will also accept checknymphing. I don't like the way that it was asked for. I got to it, but it's like everything. An extra long thin leader is the thing.

And heavy flies. Well, everything's kind of got an extra long thin leader is the thing and heavy flies well everything's kind of got an extra long thin leader no it's extra meaning that it's longer than most leaders yeah but like you could have most leaders it's made famous in international competitions that's one clue there's a hint so spay there's continue i think spay i don't think that's correct scandinavian spay fishing is I don't think that's correct. Scandinavian spay fishing? It was made famous on the international competition circuit. I obviously don't know.

Euronymphing. Nice work, Sparrow. Also known as check nymphing, this style of angling involves lobbing a long, thin monofilament leader from 20 to 30 feet long upstream and letting the weighted fly tick along the bottom. Euro nymphing allows an angler to methodically sweep the bottom of a run, especially in fast-flowing pocket water where a traditional nymph indicator setup might get swept downstream before the fly has a chance to sink.

But here's the deal. You got your pocket full of water, Gremlin. You get that fly down there real fast, too. That's right. All right. Well, question eight. I didn't know what Euro nymphing is. I feel like I only ever hear it used as a joke.

It's a pejorative in a lot of circles. Yeah. I didn't know they had longer rods. Yeah. If you buy, I mean, a lot of, a lot of manufacturers specify like a Euro rod and it'll be like a 10 or 11 foot rod and you're just kind of like you're almost it's not quite flossing because the fish is well yeah kind of tight lining and there's no indicator usually like a lot of people will actually just mark the leader

they'll have a colored mark on the leader that they can yeah it's not a it's not an indicator it's not a bobber but it's an indicator but it's just kind of this thing that you look at, and when it twitches, you set the hook. That's totally different. It indicates a strike, 100%. I'm going to move on before you guys embarrass yourself further. It's pretty heated right now. Hey, folks, exciting news for those who live or hunt in Canada.

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the category of hunting. Non-resident hunters in Alaska with U.S. citizenship must be accompanied by either a guide or a resident within the second degree of kindred to hunt which three

big game species. Non-resident hunters in Alaska with U.S. citizenship must be accompanied by either a guide or a resident within the second degree of kindred to hunt which three big game species. So we're looking for all three here there's some writing going on puzzled looks Spencer's writing furiously I'm gonna write down some options give myself a choice and start crossing them off. Good tactic. Great tactic. Reva's laughing.

I haven't seen her marker move quite yet. It's moved. This is not a, yeah. Yeah. So we're looking, again, we're looking for the three big game species in Alaska for which a non-resident hunter must be accompanied by either a guide or a resident within the second degree of kindred. You got this, Yanni? Mm-hmm. Does anybody out there dream of hunting Alaska?

Have you often been frustrated by the guide requirement for one of the animals you'd like to pursue? No, I'm all for it. All right. I like it. As a former guide, it makes sense. As a former guide, I was going to say, yeah. I always dream about it, and then I, like, start doing the pricing for it. I'm like, oh, I'll do it in, like, five years. And then in five years, it's doubled in price.

Yeah. And that happens every time. It doesn't in price. Yeah, that happens every time It doesn't get cheaper How are we doing gang? Logan's writing Cory you've got your three you're happy with them. No, I'm not happy with Spencer's got three Yeah, one or two right? Yeah, I got two of them, right? Oh three Three species you have three animals written down.

Alec, you feeling good? I think so. I like that. I like the confidence. Cal, you got three? I got three. Looks like Tressa's still writing. No specific.

We got three? Yeah. Let's flip them over, gang. Tressa says moose, caribibou and reindeer logan says moose sheep mountain goat cory says doll sheep brown bear stone sheep spencer says brown bear doll sheep stone sheep cal says sheep goat brown bear alex says bear gri sheep, goat. Reva says moose, grizzly bear, brown bear. Giannis says grizz, doll sheep, mountain goat. But there's a curveball here too, muskox, right?

Because in the muskox area, you have to have a native guy. We're going to get to it here. Sorry, go ahead. I'm just going by the reg book. Sorry, babe. We have a correct answer in the room It's brown or grizzly bear Mountain goat And doll sheep

Do you have to say doll sheep? No It actually reads as It actually reads I think as sheep and goat hunters I gave it to Cal, Alec and Giannis I believe that's correct But are there not multiple types of sheep there? No in Alaska.

There's not Dahl and Stone, or are they the same? Stone's in British. Just Dahl. Damn. While it is hard to find an explicit justification for this rule, it is widely understood to be connected to the unique hazards encountered on these hunts. Extreme terrain

in the case of goats and sheep, and brown bears in the case of goats and sheep and brown bears in the case of brown bears non-resident hunters who are not u.s citizens must be accompanied by a licensed guide when hunting any species of big game in alaska now i looked this up tried to find the earliest version of this rule that i could and there is a cut there is a version of this rule in the july 1st or i'm sorry in the 1960 alaska adf and g reg book which is the first one ever printed after alaska statehood in 1959 in that year's book the guide requirement applied to anyone hunting or photographing brown grizzly and

polar bears mountain goat hunters sheep hunters andrus hunters, which also makes sense. Now, I do think the musk ox question, it has to do with where you're hunting and the rules around land owned by native corporations, but to actually get the license through the state as a non-resident, it's not a requirement. The room looks moody we've got two questions left in our game of trivia how's that scoreboard looking oh it is down to cal yannis and spencer technically if cal and yannis really uh the B. What one did I miss? Uh, that's a great question.

You're on it. And I cannot answer it. Oh, you're on it. Yeah. We can revisit that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's, uh, it's looking real close here. Going into questions nine and 10.

I'm excited to see how this plays out. Question nine. You look it, Randall. Question nine. This question comes to us in the category of fishing what large predatory freshwater fish introduced to the Chesapeake Bay Watershed by the Virginia Department of Wildlife resources in 1974 now makes up as much as 70 percent of the biomass in parts of the James and Rappahannock River systems. I will read that again. No need.

What large predatory freshwater fish introduced to the Chesapeake Bay watershed by the Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources in 1974 now makes up as much as 70% of the biomass in parts of the James and Rappahannock river systems. And I will note here, uh, I would be as specific as you can. That's a good hint. If you think the answer is lab, you need to say black lab. I thought about using that as an example, but I thought it might be leading.

Just stop. 70% of the biomass. That's a fun stat. I've seen it cited as high as 75%. Did you guys know that Cal was just on a big fishing trip on the East Coast? I did know that. I did.

I did. Randall did know that. He was sending pictures the whole time to Randall. He was up in New England. Yeah, the southern part of the New England. We did, to be fair, talk about the Chesapeake lot. Well, he didn't

tell me that. Give yourself some cover here buddy but we covered in in uh last yeah the last episode that we did that i'm very rarely there and in all fairness to me cal doesn't rsvp for any episode of trivia so i had no idea whether or not he'd be here today i gotta text him the night before each time. That's not intentional. I don't understand how the stupid Google Calendar works. I can show you. There's a button. I'll show you right after this.

I swear I clicked yes. Looks like most folks around the table have an answer. Tressa is going to write something down here. You got this, Corey? Again, we are looking for a large predatory freshwater fish introduced to the Chesapeake Bay that now makes up as much as 70% of the biomass in parts of the James and Rappahannock River systems.

Why don't we turn those boards over? Tressa says yellow bass, Logan, tiger musky, Corey, northern pike. Spencer, blue catfish. Cal, blue catfish. Alex says redfish. Reva says northern pike. Giannis says blue catfish.

We have a correct answer in the room. It's blue catfish. No! Native to the Mississippi, Ohio, and Missouri River drainages, blue catfish were introduced to several rivers in eastern Virginia to provide recreational opportunities for anglers. Over time, they've spread from freshwater into brackish tidal estuaries and now occupy most of the major river systems of the Chesapeake. Blue catfish are voracious predators, and their overabundance has had negative impact on native populations of blue crab striped bass and american eels in 2023 maryland's governor west moore requested the u.s department of commerce issue an emergency disaster declaration for the chesapeake's commercial fisheries specifically

citing blue catfish among several invasive species of concern now uh full disclosure here for all you conspiracy theorists in the room randall when he he and I did travel to D.C., not this year, but last year. I didn't know about this either. For a TRCP deal, he turned me on to a guy named Ernie the Hog Snatcher. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Ernie. He's great.

Ernie showcases accessible fishing right there in the DC area. Standing next to buildings catching monsters. He showcases it through television shows, Instagram but he's got the lighted rod tips and they dance

and he just loses his mind. So Ernie, if you're listening, still love to yeah with you buddy i actually raised that i showed that to cal in hopes that a man of his instagram stature might reach out to another similarly statured man in the instagram i did i did several times and he always says like thanks yeah it's just not not interesting i love it i love him i don't think he thinks i can rope him in like he can he's yeah he must he muscles He muscles him in. Yeah. When I learned that blue cats are native to that area, I was really disappointed.

They just look like they belong. That feels like a fish that belongs there and would, uh, would be, you know, Native Americans would have been catching it hundreds of years ago. It's like the one thing that I know about the James River. Yeah.

Um, but yeah. They grow them big over there. They do. I saw that they believe that blue catfish eat as many as 2.3 million juvenile blue crabs a year. Whoa. Yeah. Bad news.

Bad news, gang. But I've got some good news. We're going to recap the first nine answers here for the listeners at home to keep score. Question one, it's that seven-letter term, a gallery. Question two, water gremlin. Question three, it's that seven-letter term, a gallery. Question two, water gremlin. Question three, Charles Darwin. Question four, lions or African lions. Question five, Himalayan snowcock.

Question six, Sonoran dog. Question seven, Euro-nymphing. Question eight, brown or grizzly bears, mountain goats, and doll sheep. Question nine, our answer was blue catfish. Phil, if I am not mistaken, I believe we're still tied heading into our final question here. Yeah, we are indeed, Randall. We've got Giannis and Cal tied up with eight points apiece, and they're the only two that can win the game. My goodness.

We are indeed. My goodness, I wonder whether it will be decided on this final question or by a tiebreaker. There's only one way to find out. Let's proceed. Question 10. What color light indicates the port side of a vessel? Oh. What color light indicates the port side of a vessel?

Quick answer from Giannis Petelis. Do you know this? I do. There's a little... Sorry for the listeners at home. That noise was only intended to quiet Giannis. What did you think was going to happen there? I was worried that he might say something that would stir some thinking on the part of his competitors.

Could jeopardize the fair outcome of this contest. There are only so many colors. Or there are many colors as you can imagine. I think we've got answers from everybody in the room. Let's flip those boards over, gang.

Tressa says red. Uh-oh. Logan says red. Corey says red. Spencer says red. Cal says green. Alex says green. Reva says yellow.

Giannis says red. We have a correct answer in the room, and we've got two different answers between our final contestants here. No overtime in this game the correct answer is red a red side light indicates the port or left side of a vessel while a green side light indicates the starboard or right side you can remember which side of a vessel a red or green light indicates with the mnemonic device port wine is red port wine is red you

could also remember which side by saying is there any red port left is there any red port left i could easily mess that up though i'd be like is there any red port right i don't know is there i hope not i I hope not. You'd have to think about the meaning of the words and what makes sense. Are there any red port fans out there? I know that left is port because they have the same amount of letters, but I didn't know the colors. We just think about red port. I worked on a boat in New England for uh shoot a couple weeks ago whole week on a big boat people using port starboard the whole time never had the guts to be like which one's with

and they cost you the game oftentimes when you're on the boat you often don't see the lights unless it's a small vessel no but like everyone it doesn't matter where you are, every little boat light is split between red and green. Yeah. So I knew that. Yeah.

But yeah. And then if you're on the intercoastal waterway and the markers are red and green too, red, right, returning. So anytime you're going back in, red's on. And typically, if you're approaching a vessel at night and you're going back in, red's on you. And typically,

if you're approaching a vessel at night and you see the red light, you yield to that vessel versus the other way. Couple captains cutting it up. Hey, don't listen to us. Don't drive your boat based on what you've heard

on this year's trivia podcast. Well, I am sorely disappointed that we didn't Get to use my tiebreaker but Giannis I'm equally thrilled that you are today's winner Thanks Randall It was a fun game To which one

Yes Giannis got nine Are you sure I'm pretty sure What did you miss Recount Darwin I thought there was another one I'm pretty sure. What didn't you get, or what did you miss? Recount. Darwin. Darwin.

Oh. I thought there was another one. Maybe not. I can't believe you knew Czech nymphing. I didn't know there was another level of Euro nymphing that had that name. I only heard it as Czech nymphing. Yeah, me too. I'm going to start saying that like I use Arkansasing. Yeah.

Arkansas to bird. Yeah, if you say a guy's a Eurouronymphor, it carries a certain connotation. Giannis Patelis, to which worthy cause would you like to donate your $500 prize today? I'm going to stick with my go-to until we beat back this ballot initiative that looks like it's going to probably be on the ballot in Colorado to outlaw the hunting of bobcats, lions, and lynx, which you already can't hunt in Colorado. So we'll go to savethehuntcolorado.com, which is like Colorado's for responsible wildlife management. So yeah, if you're in Colorado, remember, talk to your friends that aren't hunters

Tell them, educate them And if you have any writing ability at all Write a letter to the editor Or an opinion piece To your local newspaper about it And if you're not a great writer But impassioned Give it a shot

Do we know what's going to be on the ballot for sure? I believe so. We don't know for sure yet. I think it's literally this week that we're going to hear whether the, if those signatures have been validated. Yeah, they got the signatures, but they still need to be verified.

Well, gang, thanks for playing today's episode of Trivia. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. Well done, Randall. Thanks, Randall. Yeah, Spencer from South Dakota playing today's episode of Trivia. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. Well done, Randall. Thanks, Randall. Yeah, Spencer from South Dakota, he's the host. Using those smooth, mellow tones, he lays them questions down. And he likes taking those two- and three-year-old bucks.

And he's an avid amateur rock hound.